Re: [Zope] Beginners Confusion

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Hi Russell,

Russell Winter wrote:


Thanks for the prompt response, the reason behind keeping the users separate
is that each team wants to feel that they have some control over their
destiny's and we are happy to pander to this thought, they also each have a
completely different set of visitors to the sites and wish to keep their
sites separate. From our perspective, we also want to have that little more
control over each team but in the way of resources but allow them some
flexibility in their choices. 


Fair Enough.


However, I had worked out that instances seemed to be the way to go, but I
confused myself more by trying to setup and instance for a test user and
failing dismally, the instance error'd in a number of ways, mostly I figured
to do with permissions. This will just take time to work through I think.


Yup, but it is the way to go...

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Re: [Zope] Python Classes and Zope.

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Paul Winkler wrote:

1) create a derived or wrapper class that inherits from
Acquisition.Implicit or Acquisition.Explicit.
This can either inherit from your existing class,
or wrap it, as you prefer.


You don't actually have to do this.

2) in the wrapper class, use ClassSecurityInfo() to 
declare the methods you need public or permission-protected,

or use allowAny().


You can apply these, and module security declarations, from any piece of 
trusted code, to any other piece of FS-based code.



You know, some days I wonder why it is that Zope is the
only framework around that needs to distinguish between 
trusted and untrusted code. Nobody else seems to be

looking at us with envy in this regard.


Well, while I'd like to agree with you, I like having semi-trusted code, 
but I think Zope 3 does a much better job of this...


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Re: [Zope] checking for elements in a list

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Christopher Rivard wrote:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/150345


I'm working offline, so can't see what you're refering to.

The solution that I have come to is to simply set a cookie and serve up 
the correct fields based on the cookie:


dtml-if 17 in list_map_dir_id and 21 not in list_map_dir_id
dtml-call RESPONSE.setCookie(list_type,'lodge')
dtml-elif 21 in list_map_dir_id and 17 not in list_map_dir_id
dtml-call RESPONSE.setCookie(list_type,'resto')
dtml-elif 21 in list_map_dir_id and 17 in list_map_dir_id
dtml-call RESPONSE.setCookie(list_type,'restolodge')
dtml-else
dtml-call RESPONSE.setCookie(list_type,'other')
/dtml-if

dtml-in insert_listing1_sql
id: dtml-var newid
dtml-call REQUEST.set('list_map_list_id', newid)
/dtml-in
dtml-call insert_listing_map_sql
dtml-call 
RESPONSE.redirect('add_listing2?list_id=%s'%(REQUEST['list_map_list_id'])) 


Oh my god! What the hell are you doing? Want some plyers to pull your 
fingernails out while you're at it?!


I am sure there are more elegant ways to do this  - the client wanted 
the data in a RDBMS for portabilityyah yah yah


...and it looks like you don't have a clue about relational databases.

Sounds like you want to have an establishments table, a features 
table, and then learn to do a join on both to get the features for a 
given establishment.


sheesh, I'm on the verge of tears having read the above...

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] checking for elements in a list

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

J Cameron Cooper wrote:
Just make sure that the elements of the list you're getting are what you 
think they are. If you ask about the integer 17 and the list actually 
has a string 17 they won't match. You can either adjust what you test 
or use something like the 'int' function to cast.


Also make sure the list isn't too long, otherwise do it as a dictionary 
and use has_key...


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Re: [Zope] killing off individual Zope session

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Dennis Allison wrote:

We just had an example of a run away process with one of our authenticated
users.


What do you mean by this? If it's something to do with a relational 
database, you might be able to do something there...



I would have liked to kill off the user's processing while leaving all the
other users running.  


As Tres pointed out, can't really be done. Restarting Zope will do it...

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Re: [Zope] zdsock

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

John Poltorak wrote:


Because 'zdsock' is not an acceptable name.

I am running on OS/2 and the path name must start with '\\socket\\'.


Oooo, ow, that's gonna hurt...

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Re: [Zope] add multiple images to zope folder

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

I'd use WebDAV.

If you want security, tunnel the WebDAV port over ssh.

cheers,

Chris

Chris Purves wrote:

Hello,

Is there a way to add multiple images to a zope folder instead of adding one
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Re: [Zope] Python Classes and Zope.

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Chris McDonough wrote:


Not really, and that's why Zope 3 has avoided through the web code  so 
far.  I hope this avoidance continues at least in the core,  whatever 
that is, but I see rumblings every so often about why this  is a 
can't-live-without thing (with which I strongly disagree).


Well, TTW coding via WebDAV, for example, is something that I don't 
think I could live without :-S


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Re: [Zope] Re: why will FastCGI not be supported in the Future.

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Andrew Milton wrote:


If there's noone around who can maintain it, then just say that. Don't say
there's 'a better way', because I can guarantee you the people using FCGI are
using it for a reason, 


I haven't seen anyone come up with real justification for using FCGI...


I can imagine a pretty big set of people running Zope via FCGI who are
not running Apache.. I can also imagine that magical code fairies fight with
magical code trolls to the death to decide what pieces of code stay and which 
pieces go.


Uh? I'm not sure whether to ask for some of what you're on or just run 
away screaming ;-)


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Re: [Zope] Re: Zope Message Board

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers
Squishdot's still there, it's just so stable that it hasn't needed 
fixing for ages now ;-)


Michael Haubenwallner wrote:

John Poltorak wrote:


What Message Board product is recommended for use with Zope?




I think zForum at http://www.zforum.org is the only one alive.

Michael



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Re: [Zope] Re: why will FastCGI not be supported in the Future.

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 5. Dezember 2005 07:51:17 + Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Andrew Milton wrote:


If there's noone around who can maintain it, then just say that. Don't
say there's 'a better way', because I can guarantee you the people using
FCGI are using it for a reason,


I haven't seen anyone come up with real justification for using FCGI...



FCGI is deprecated effective Zope 2.9.

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[Zope] Zope Py23-Py24 problem...

2005-12-05 Thread Durumdara

Hi !

I have home pc, and other pc in my corp.

The home pc have py2.3, the work pc have py2.4.

I installed Zope 2.8.4 in every system.

I have been building a zope site in my home machine. Then I copy to usb
pendrive (data.fs), and move to corp machine.
But when I want to start this site in my corp machine, it is show error
message: python23.dll is not found.

How can I import this database ? Or I need to drop my site structure,
and need to begin the work again ?

Please help me. Thanks for every solution.

dd

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Re: [Zope] Zope Py23-Py24 problem...

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 05.12.05 11:42:19, Durumdara wrote:
 Hi !
 
 I have home pc, and other pc in my corp.
 
 The home pc have py2.3, the work pc have py2.4.
 
 I installed Zope 2.8.4 in every system.
 
 I have been building a zope site in my home machine. Then I copy to usb
 pendrive (data.fs), and move to corp machine.
 But when I want to start this site in my corp machine, it is show error
 message: python23.dll is not found.

I think you need to use the same python version as on your home PC. Or try
exporting to a zexp and then reimporting. 

But be aware that running Zope 2.7 oder 2.8 with Python 2.4 is not
supported and you won't get much help here or anywhere else with that
combination.

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Re: [Zope] Hooks for methods other than GET/POST on port 80?

2005-12-05 Thread Roman Susi

Dieter Maurer wrote:


Roman Suzi wrote at 2005-12-3 21:56 +0200:
 


I am looking for a way in Zope to receive HTTP-requests with, eg,
DELETE and PUT in the object method. Zope (2.7.x) seems to intercept these and
issue Not authorised.
   



DELETE and PUT are WebDAV methods (and defined in
webdav.Resource.Resouce).

You have the usual hook: override the definition in your class.
Do not forget to assign a new permission to your new method definitions
(otherwise, the 'Unauthorized' will remain).

 

Advice taken, thanks. However, when I tried to do it and Zope freezes 
(that is, the whole Zope server freezes!). never saw anything like that 
before...

After restarting Zope the same thing happened again. Probably it's a bug.

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Re: [Zope] Zope Py23-Py24 problem...

2005-12-05 Thread Durumdara

Hi !

So you say that I must use Zope 2.x (x=7,8) with Python 2.3 versions ?
Can I use Zope3 with Python 2.4 ?

Or I forget it, and I need to use Py2.3 for everything ?
(I have wx, local, and other developments, so if I need to change that, I must 
change everything...)

Thanks for help: dd





I think you need to use the same python version as on your home PC. Or try
exporting to a zexp and then reimporting. 


But be aware that running Zope 2.7 oder 2.8 with Python 2.4 is not
supported and you won't get much help here or anywhere else with that
combination.

Andreas




Andreas Pakulat wrote:


On 05.12.05 11:42:19, Durumdara wrote:
 


Hi !

I have home pc, and other pc in my corp.

The home pc have py2.3, the work pc have py2.4.

I installed Zope 2.8.4 in every system.

I have been building a zope site in my home machine. Then I copy to usb
pendrive (data.fs), and move to corp machine.
But when I want to start this site in my corp machine, it is show error
message: python23.dll is not found.
   



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Re: [Zope] Zope Py23-Py24 problem...

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 5. Dezember 2005 13:56:28 +0100 Durumdara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi !

So you say that I must use Zope 2.x (x=7,8) with Python 2.3 versions ?


This is documented and discussed a bunch of times (check the archives or 
read the  installation documentation).




Can I use Zope3 with Python 2.4 ?


Depends on the version. At least the upcoming Zope 3.2 version requires 
Python 2.4.


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Re: [Zope] Zope Py23-Py24 problem...

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 05.12.05 12:54:03, Durumdara wrote:
 Hi !

Please reply to the list

 So you say that I must use Zope 2.x (x=7,8) with Python 2.3 versions ?

You don't have to, from what I read here on another Zope ML it can work.
But as soon as you have problems and you want to get help here you're
better off using Python 2.3 with Zope 2.x (x  9)

 Can I use Zope3 with Python 2.4 ?

Not sure, but I think yes. See the INSTALL.txt it should have a
paragraph about the Python version to use. 

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Re: [Zope] Zope Py23-Py24 problem...

2005-12-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 12/5/05, Durumdara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi !

 I have home pc, and other pc in my corp.

 The home pc have py2.3, the work pc have py2.4.

 I installed Zope 2.8.4 in every system.

 I have been building a zope site in my home machine. Then I copy to usb
 pendrive (data.fs), and move to corp machine.
 But when I want to start this site in my corp machine, it is show error
 message: python23.dll is not found.

Huh? Did you copy only the Data.fs?
What OS do you run on your work PC?
Did the Zope work on your Zope PC before you copied the Data.fs?
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Re: [Zope] Zope Py23-Py24 problem...

2005-12-05 Thread Durumdara

Hi !

Yes, everything is working. That is working in older versions: I create 
instance with mkinstance.py, and copy the data.fs to it.

Every PC is WinXP, only different is Python version number.
I have been probed python 2.4, and it is working good, that I thinking 
about that I change (upgrade) to it.


But that have some dependecies like this: some packages are working good 
only in Py2.3...


dd


Huh? Did you copy only the Data.fs?
What OS do you run on your work PC?
Did the Zope work on your Zope PC before you copied the Data.fs?
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Re: [Zope] Zope Py23-Py24 problem...

2005-12-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 12/5/05, Durumdara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi !

 Yes, everything is working. That is working in older versions: I create
 instance with mkinstance.py, and copy the data.fs to it.
 Every PC is WinXP, only different is Python version number.
 I have been probed python 2.4, and it is working good, that I thinking
 about that I change (upgrade) to it.

 But that have some dependecies like this: some packages are working good
 only in Py2.3...

So, it's the packages that are not working, and not the Data.fs, as
you said before? Did you copy the packages over as well? In that case,
they contain a compiled pyc-file, which requires 2.3. Delete all pyc
files (or better reinstall all products from sratch).

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Re: [Zope] Re: Which Zope version is installed?

2005-12-05 Thread Martijn Pieters
 In your SOFTWARE_HOME (check its value in /Control_Panel in ZMI) read
 the file 'version.txt'

In certain versions of the Zope 2.7 releases the version.txt file was
mucked up; looking at the top of the CHANGES.txt (in the doc/
directory) is a more reliable way of telling what version you have,
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Re: [Zope] Hooks for methods other than GET/POST on port 80?

2005-12-05 Thread Roman Susi
Dieter Maurer wrote:
 Roman Suzi wrote at 2005-12-3 21:56 +0200:
 
I am looking for a way in Zope to receive HTTP-requests with, eg,
DELETE and PUT in the object method. Zope (2.7.x) seems to intercept these and
issue Not authorised.
 
 
 DELETE and PUT are WebDAV methods (and defined in
 webdav.Resource.Resouce).
 
 You have the usual hook: override the definition in your class.
 Do not forget to assign a new permission to your new method definitions
 (otherwise, the 'Unauthorized' will remain).
 

This is what freezes Zope:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/logging/__init__.py, line 674, in emit
msg = self.format(record)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/logging/__init__.py, line 567, in format
return fmt.format(record)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/logging/__init__.py, line 369, in format
s = s + self.formatException(record.exc_info)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/logging/__init__.py, line 342, in
formatException
traceback.print_exception(ei[0], ei[1], ei[2], None, sio)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 123, in print_exception
print_tb(tb, limit, file)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/traceback.py, line 68, in print_tb
line = linecache.getline(filename, lineno)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/linecache.py, line 14, in getline
lines = getlines(filename)
RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded


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Re: [Zope] Finding a match in a large dataset - btrees?

2005-12-05 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 04:57:03PM +1300, Cameron Beattie wrote:
 I have a large set of data (that will be stored in MySQL) that I wish to 
 match to and am wondering what the best method is.
 
 Assume the following data in table LOCATION_MATCH:
 LOCATION_IDLOCATION_PATTERNPARENT_ID
 106
 11410
 13211
 12911
 14113
 15213
 
 The string 6438 should return 11, 6421 14, 6422 15 and 6499 12.

I stopped reading here because I couldn't make any sense of the example.
How does 6438 return 11?

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Re: [Zope] Finding a match in a large dataset - btrees?

2005-12-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 12/5/05, Cameron Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a large set of data (that will be stored in MySQL) that I wish to
 match to and am wondering what the best method is.

 Assume the following data in table LOCATION_MATCH:
 LOCATION_IDLOCATION_PATTERNPARENT_ID
 106
 11410
 13211
 12911
 14113
 15213

 The string 6438 should return 11, 6421 14, 6422 15 and 6499 12.

Eh, what? OK, I understand what is happening, but why?
It seems to me that this is an implementation of a btree, but why? SQL
databases have indexes, why not just use them? :)

 I've read a bit about btrees on the zope wiki and wonder if that's the best
 way.

Probably, but only if you actually let them do the indexing. :-)
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Re: [Zope] Re: Zope Calendar

2005-12-05 Thread John Poltorak
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 01:17:06PM +0800, Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote:
 
  I wanted something which looks like Plone Calendar
 
   - http://www.zope.org/Members/teyc/CalendarTag
 
 
 this has a howto (or is it in the readme), and with the necessary css, can
 look pretty much like plone's

I'd like to see more examples of what can be done.

Is there any way to create a calendar of events which are automatically 
highlighted when displaying the calendar?


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Re: [Zope] zdsock

2005-12-05 Thread John Poltorak
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:50:30AM +, Chris Withers wrote:
 John Poltorak wrote:
  
  Because 'zdsock' is not an acceptable name.
  
  I am running on OS/2 and the path name must start with '\\socket\\'.
 
 Oooo, ow, that's gonna hurt...


Zope itself works fine when started via runzope, so what is the problem in 
trying to provide an alternate socket name?

zdctl is supposed to accept an alternative socket name:-

-s/--socket-name SOCKET -- Unix socket name for client (default zdsock)

Unfortunately, I can't figure out any way to make use of this option.

 
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Re: [Zope] Re: Zope Calendar

2005-12-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 12/5/05, John Poltorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any way to create a calendar of events which are automatically
 highlighted when displaying the calendar?

Highlighted?

And also, my earlier question begs for answer. What do you mean with
looks like and works like?

 Is there a Zope Calendar app available which looks and works like Plone
 Calendar?

I think this would be easier if you were more specific of what kind of
features you want.

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Re: [Zope] Finding a match in a large dataset - btrees?

2005-12-05 Thread Dennis Allison

I cannot make any sense out of your example data.  Since you already have 
the data in a MySQL table, I would think the best way to find the match 
would be to make a MySQL query.  

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Cameron Beattie wrote:

 I have a large set of data (that will be stored in MySQL) that I wish to 
 match to and am wondering what the best method is.
 
 Assume the following data in table LOCATION_MATCH:
 LOCATION_IDLOCATION_PATTERNPARENT_ID
 106
 11410
 13211
 12911
 14113
 15213
 
 The string 6438 should return 11, 6421 14, 6422 15 and 6499 12.
 
 I've read a bit about btrees on the zope wiki and wonder if that's the best 
 way. However I am struggling with the basics:
 1. How do I get the data from MySQL into a btree in Zope? Something like:
 from BTrees.IIBTree import *
 t = IIBTree()
 t.update(context.select_from_LOCATION_MATCH) # errr, no
 
 2. How do I find the matching node i.e. when I want to know that 6422 
 relates to location_id 15?
 
 Any help or pointers to further documentation would be appreciated.
 
 Regards
 
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Re: [Zope] add multiple images to zope folder

2005-12-05 Thread Jonathan Cyr




I once started down that path with
FTP. I use HomeSite, as well, to save via FTP. I investigated a Linux
package called Delegate, that would provide a rev-proxy for FTP over
SSL, in which normal FTP clients with SSL could transfer files.
www.delegate.org

I didn't continue, priorities and all.

Maybe a WebDAV client over SSL would be easier, depends on your needs.

-Jon





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  On 04/12/05, Jonathan Cyr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
Use FTP,

 Open Internet Explorer, type ftp://zopeusername:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8021/directory/

 and drag and drop from explorer to ie, zope assigns them as images automatically.

 Any FTP client will do, Filezilla is nice/free, as well. (filezilla.sourceforge.net)  Substitute 8021 with your Zope's FTP port.

 I use it regularly for uploading website graphical components, a nice shortcut.

  
  
That looks like exactly what I want, but is it possible to make the
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[Zope] Adding TextIndexNG 3.1.1 error

2005-12-05 Thread Garth B.
Zope 2.8.0
Python 2.3.5
RHEL 3

I installed TextIndexNG 3.1.1 and associated extension_modules without
a problem.  Trying to add a TextIndexNG index to my catalog returns:

Error Type: ComponentLookupError
Error Value: 'Utilities'

I'm pretty sure I followed all instructions and I've installed and
used previous versions of TextIndexNG without a problem on other
instances of Zope 2.8.x.

Can anyone help figure out what's going wrong?  Traceback follows...

Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 113, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 311, in __call__
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 348, in _bindAndExec
  Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile, line 110, in _exec
  Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 102, in pt_render
   - PageTemplateFile at /test/Catalog/manage_addTextIndexNG3Form
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 190, in __call__
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 611, in do_loop_tal
  Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 206, in setRepeat
  Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 221, in evaluate
   - URL: manage_addTextIndexNG3Form
   - Line 155, Column 8
   - Expression: standard:'context/get_splitters'
   - Names:
  {'container': App.ProductContext.__FactoryDispatcher__ object
at 0xb64020cc,
   'context': App.ProductContext.__FactoryDispatcher__ object at
0xb64020cc,
   'default': Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Default instance at 0xb6c6bdcc,
   'here': App.ProductContext.__FactoryDispatcher__ object at 0xb64020cc,
   'loop': Products.PageTemplates.TALES.SafeMapping object at 0xb613e3cc,
   'modules':
Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr._SecureModuleImporter instance at
0xb6c7ec6c,
   'nothing': None,
   'options': {'args': ()},
   'repeat': Products.PageTemplates.TALES.SafeMapping object at
0xb613e3cc,
   'request': HTTPRequest,
URL=http://localhost:8080/test/Catalog/manage_addProduct/TextIndexNG3/manage_addTextIndexNG3Form,
   'root': OFS.Application.Application object at 0xb644f32c,
   'template': PageTemplateFile at
/test/Catalog/manage_addTextIndexNG3Form,
   'traverse_subpath': [],
   'user': garth}
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 183, in __call__
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 178, in _eval
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 85, in render
  Module Products.TextIndexNG3, line 49, in get_splitters
  Module zope.component, line 87, in getUtilitiesFor
  Module zope.component, line 68, in getService
  Module zope.component.service, line 109, in getService
ComponentLookupError: 'Utilities'
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Re: [Zope] Adding TextIndexNG 3.1.1 error

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 5. Dezember 2005 13:34:15 -0500 Garth B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Zope 2.8.0
Python 2.3.5
RHEL 3

I installed TextIndexNG 3.1.1 and associated extension_modules without
a problem.  Trying to add a TextIndexNG index to my catalog returns:

Error Type: ComponentLookupError
Error Value: 'Utilities'



I am still missing a detailed description from your side how to reproduce 
this behaviour on nacked Plone or Zope installation.


-aj



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Re: [Zope] Adding TextIndexNG 3.1.1 error

2005-12-05 Thread Garth B.
Sorry, I created a ZCatalog and when choosing TextIndexNG3 from the
Add dropdown in my ZCatalog's Indexes tab, it immediately gives me
this error.

Thanks for any help you can provide!  I'll repeat the traceback below:

Traceback (innermost last):
 Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 113, in publish
 Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
 Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
 Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 311, in __call__
 Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 348, in _bindAndExec
 Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile, line 110, in _exec
 Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 102, in pt_render
  - PageTemplateFile at /test/Catalog/manage_addTextIndexNG3Form
 Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 190, in __call__
 Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
 Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 611, in do_loop_tal
 Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 206, in setRepeat
 Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 221, in evaluate
  - URL: manage_addTextIndexNG3Form
  - Line 155, Column 8
  - Expression: standard:'context/get_splitters'
  - Names:
 {'container': App.ProductContext.__FactoryDispatcher__ object
at 0xb64020cc,
  'context': App.ProductContext.__FactoryDispatcher__ object at
0xb64020cc,
  'default': Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Default instance at 0xb6c6bdcc,
  'here': App.ProductContext.__FactoryDispatcher__ object at 0xb64020cc,
  'loop': Products.PageTemplates.TALES.SafeMapping object at 0xb613e3cc,
  'modules':
Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr._SecureModuleImporter instance at
0xb6c7ec6c,
  'nothing': None,
  'options': {'args': ()},
  'repeat': Products.PageTemplates.TALES.SafeMapping object at
0xb613e3cc,
  'request': HTTPRequest,
URL=http://localhost:8080/test/Catalog/manage_addProduct/TextIndexNG3/manage_addTextIndexNG3Form,
  'root': OFS.Application.Application object at 0xb644f32c,
  'template': PageTemplateFile at
/test/Catalog/manage_addTextIndexNG3Form,
  'traverse_subpath': [],
  'user': garth}
 Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 183, in __call__
 Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 178, in _eval
 Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 85, in render
 Module Products.TextIndexNG3, line 49, in get_splitters
 Module zope.component, line 87, in getUtilitiesFor
 Module zope.component, line 68, in getService
 Module zope.component.service, line 109, in getService
ComponentLookupError: 'Utilities'

On 12/5/05, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 --On 5. Dezember 2005 13:34:15 -0500 Garth B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Zope 2.8.0
  Python 2.3.5
  RHEL 3
 
  I installed TextIndexNG 3.1.1 and associated extension_modules without
  a problem.  Trying to add a TextIndexNG index to my catalog returns:
 
  Error Type: ComponentLookupError
  Error Value: 'Utilities'
 

 I am still missing a detailed description from your side how to reproduce
 this behaviour on nacked Plone or Zope installation.

 -aj




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Re: [Zope] Adding TextIndexNG 3.1.1 error

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 5. Dezember 2005 14:15:39 -0500 Garth B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sorry, I created a ZCatalog and when choosing TextIndexNG3 from the
Add dropdown in my ZCatalog's Indexes tab, it immediately gives me
this error.


Works like a charm..Somehow your Zope installation must be borked.
Try with again with a fresh 2.8 installation.

-aj


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Re: [Zope] Adding TextIndexNG 3.1.1 error

2005-12-05 Thread Garth B.
Sigh... figures... I'll use this as an excuse to upgrade to 2.8.4

Thanks!

On 12/5/05, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 --On 5. Dezember 2005 14:15:39 -0500 Garth B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Sorry, I created a ZCatalog and when choosing TextIndexNG3 from the
  Add dropdown in my ZCatalog's Indexes tab, it immediately gives me
  this error.

 Works like a charm..Somehow your Zope installation must be borked.
 Try with again with a fresh 2.8 installation.

 -aj



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Re: [Zope] Re: Zope Calendar

2005-12-05 Thread John Poltorak
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 05:08:19PM +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote:
 On 12/5/05, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think this would be easier if you were more specific of what kind of
  features you want.
 
 Or you can just use CalZope. ;-) It is the most superfantasticmegacool
 calendar software ever. I know, because Martijn Faassen and I wrote
 it. :-D
 
 http://www.cps-project.org/sections/projects/calendar_server/features/

Is there so,ething missing here?

http://www.cps-project.org/sections/about/screenshots/cps_sites_screenshots/

Is there an example of it in use anywhere?


Can't tell if it works with just Zope or whether it needs Plone.
 
 Unbiasedly:
   Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo


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[Zope] Accessing a Subfolder of a Parent Folder

2005-12-05 Thread Asad Habib
How do I access the subfolder of a parent folder? I am using the following 
but cannot seem to access the folder object:


dtml-call REQUEST.set('parentFolder', PARENTS[2].id + 'Test')
dtml-call REQUEST.get('parentFolder').initialize_vars()

I get the following error:

Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: 'str' object has no attribute 'initialize_vars'

I understand that a DTML method cannot be called on a string, but how do I 
obtain the object that represents the subfolder 'Test'? Any help would be 
appreciated. Thanks.


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Re: [Zope] Accessing a Subfolder of a Parent Folder

2005-12-05 Thread Peter Bengtsson
dtml-call REQUEST.set('parentFolder', PARENTS[2].id + 'Test')
dtml-call _.getitem(REQUEST.get('parentFolder')).initialize_vars()

On 12/5/05, Asad Habib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do I access the subfolder of a parent folder? I am using the following
 but cannot seem to access the folder object:

 dtml-call REQUEST.set('parentFolder', PARENTS[2].id + 'Test')
 dtml-call REQUEST.get('parentFolder').initialize_vars()

 I get the following error:

 Error Type: AttributeError
 Error Value: 'str' object has no attribute 'initialize_vars'

 I understand that a DTML method cannot be called on a string, but how do I
 obtain the object that represents the subfolder 'Test'? Any help would be
 appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: [Zope] Accessing a Subfolder of a Parent Folder

2005-12-05 Thread Jonathan

try googling 'aq_parent'.

Jonathan

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To: zope@zope.org
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: [Zope] Accessing a Subfolder of a Parent Folder


How do I access the subfolder of a parent folder? I am using the following 
but cannot seem to access the folder object:


dtml-call REQUEST.set('parentFolder', PARENTS[2].id + 'Test')
dtml-call REQUEST.get('parentFolder').initialize_vars()

I get the following error:

Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: 'str' object has no attribute 'initialize_vars'

I understand that a DTML method cannot be called on a string, but how do I 
obtain the object that represents the subfolder 'Test'? Any help would be 
appreciated. Thanks.


- Asad


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Re: [Zope] FOLLOWUP: 120MB file import failures

2005-12-05 Thread Michael Dexter


Hello,

I found the source of my problem uploading a large file to ZODB over 
DAV and an a workaround that shouldn't have worked but worked. For 
those who are interested:


For completeness:


 I would like to put a 120MB file into ZODB and it is constantly failing.

But you should have learned that you cannot simply say is failing
but must describe precisely (error information, traceback) *how*
it is failing...


Correct Dieter, I was vague but it indeed would progress and then 
fail. Goliath, a mac web dav client, would report Unknown connection 
error and the Finder would report ... cannot be completed... one or 
more required items not found (error code -43) I apologize that I am 
not familiar with Zope's traceback.


Thank you to Tino for providing a script to copy files into ZODB. 
This solves a few other issues.


So. I knew to watch my /tmp directory and it was not being used. It 
turns out that Python (presumably, not Zope) was using /var/tmp (over 
RAM, given that large-file-threshold in zope.conf was lower than 
120MB).


I linked /var/tmp to /tmp and oddly it started using /usr/??? but at 
least it worked because there was more than 120MB available there. I 
am not quite sure where it ended up putting it. (seemingly not /var 
in the zope instance)


The solution appears to be that python can use the TMPDIR variable to 
specify where tmp should default to (reportedly it will try various 
locations) but, I am not clear how I can add this to Zope's rc script 
to declare it. I tried it as simply setting the environment variable 
set TMPDIR=/tmp but that gave warnings about the startup logic.


1. Should TMPDIR work?
2. Where should I declare it when using rc scripts?
3. Any chance zope.conf can use it?

References:
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2005-March/024534.html
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2005-March/024532.html

Appreciated,

Michael.
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[Zope] oddity with zope and webdav

2005-12-05 Thread David Bear
I have a zope instance listening on localhost. I use apache and fastcgi
to reach zope. Now I would like to provide webdav. Since my apache is
already doing ssl, I wanted webdav connections to also go through
apache.

when I use cadaver and connect to my zope zope through apache, all
works well even though I have specified in my zope.conf file that
webdav listen on localhost:8088 (it seems that cadaver is smart enough
working through the fastcgi interface to just work).

When attempting to using dreamweaver mx or windows webfolders to connect to zope I get an error.

So I attempted to use an apache proxy pass directive to campture all
urls at myzopeserver.edu:8088/webdav back to localhost:8088. This had
no effect. cadaver was still able to work. Dreamweaver (using webdav
site setup) and windows webfolders still failed.

What deep magic do I need to make dav work through apache? ( would
prefer to have all things go through fastcgi but I understand the trend
is to use proxy-pass )
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[Zope] Translating a webpage

2005-12-05 Thread Sam Boggess
I'm wondering if someone can point me in the direction of some  
documentation that will tell me the best way to translate a web page  
into multiple languages using Zope Page Templates.  In previous sites  
we've done in DTML we used a 'phrases' table in our MySQL database  
that contained phrases in each language the site required.   We then  
used sql methods and a dtml-let statement to create a list of the  
phrases used on a certain page.  I'm considering using the same basic  
idea for a page template site, but am wondering if there is a better  
way of doing translations.  I've read about using .po files.  Is  
there an easy way to hook these up to Zope? Any help would be greatly  
appreciated.


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Re: [Zope] Finding a match in a large dataset - btrees?

2005-12-05 Thread Cameron Beattie
Thanks for the many replies. I apologise for the original message which was 
obviously very unclear - I will try to correct that.


Basically I want to match a telephone number to a rate table. Assume the 
following rate table:

Telephone codeRate
6491
64212
64222.5
64 1.5

The following table sets out the appropriate rate to return for a given 
telephone number

Dialled numberReturned rate
649123 1
6431231.5
6422
64221  2.5

Things to note:
If there is no match the right-most digit is removed until there is a match 
e.g. 643123 matches to 64

The length of the dialled number is not consistent e.g. 649123 vs 64221
The length of the telephone code is not consistent e.g. 64 vs 6422

I want to do this frequently and at low cost i.e. ideally in memory. Perhaps 
the best way is to write a procedure in MySQL however I am interested in any 
python-based alternatives.


Regards

Cameron 


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Re: [Zope] add multiple images to zope folder

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Purves
On 05/12/05, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd use WebDAV.

 If you want security, tunnel the WebDAV port over ssh.


Thanks.  I was able to get WebDAV over SSL working.

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Re: [Zope] add multiple images to zope folder

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Purves
On 06/12/05, Jonathan Cyr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I once started down that path with FTP.  I use HomeSite, as well, to save
 via FTP.  I investigated a Linux package called Delegate, that would provide
 a rev-proxy for FTP over SSL, in which normal FTP clients with SSL could
 transfer files.  www.delegate.org

  I didn't continue, priorities and all.

  Maybe a WebDAV client over SSL would be easier, depends on your needs.

Yes, that's exactly what I was looking for.  I'm already using Apache
as a proxy for Zserver, so it didn't take much to get SSL working as
well.

Thanks, everyone for your help.

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Re: [Zope] oddity with zope and webdav

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Purves
On 06/12/05, David Bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a zope instance listening on localhost. I use apache and fastcgi to
 reach zope. Now I would like to provide webdav. Since my apache is already
 doing ssl, I wanted webdav connections to also go through apache.

  when I use cadaver and connect to my zope zope through apache, all works
 well even though I have specified in my zope.conf file that  webdav listen
 on localhost:8088 (it seems that cadaver is smart enough working through the
 fastcgi interface to just work).

  When attempting to using dreamweaver mx or windows webfolders to connect to
 zope I get an error.

  So I attempted to use an apache proxy pass directive to campture all urls
 at myzopeserver.edu:8088/webdav back to localhost:8088. This had no effect.
 cadaver was still able to work. Dreamweaver (using webdav site setup) and
 windows webfolders still failed.

  What deep magic do I need to make dav work through apache? ( would prefer
 to have all things go through fastcgi but I understand the trend is to use
 proxy-pass )


I just got this working myself, although I am using apache as a proxy,
not fastcgi.  If you already have ssl working with apache and can
access zope through apache without ssl, it shouldn't be difficult.

The main thing is to add a virtual host in your apache config for SSL
and modify the rewrite line to use https:.  I found the following
document helpful:

http://www.zope.org/Members/tmckibben/HowTo.2004-04-13.0659

It uses FastCGI, so it should more closely match your setup than mine

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Re: [Zope] Finding a match in a large dataset - btrees?

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 6. Dezember 2005 14:55:08 +1300 Cameron Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I want to do this frequently and at low cost i.e. ideally in memory.
Perhaps the best way is to write a procedure in MySQL however I am
interested in any python-based alternatives.



I pointed you already to the BTrees documentation.

-aj

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Re: [Zope] Finding a match in a large dataset - btrees?

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 6. Dezember 2005 14:55:08 +1300 Cameron Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


I want to do this frequently and at low cost i.e. ideally in memory.
Perhaps the best way is to write a procedure in MySQL however I am
interested in any python-based alternatives.


Your problem is more an algorithmic problem than q question of the data 
representation. Store the mapping as some BTree (possibly IIBTree using 
normalized integers for the values). Then you have to iterate over all 
prefixes of the dialed number starting with the longest prefix to the 
smallest prefix. Then perform a lookup of the prefix in your BTree...

this is should not take more than five lines of code and requires a maximum
of #(length_of_dialed_number) comparisons. If you want it more complicated 
construct a tree and you'll have a logarithmic number of comparisons. I 
doubt that it is worth the effort since the first solution should be fast 
enough unless your dialed number is hundreds of digits long :-)


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Re: [Zope] Finding a match in a large dataset - btrees?

2005-12-05 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Am Dienstag, den 06.12.2005, 14:55 +1300 schrieb Cameron Beattie:
 Thanks for the many replies. I apologise for the original message which was 
 obviously very unclear - I will try to correct that.
 
...
 I want to do this frequently and at low cost i.e. ideally in memory. Perhaps 
 the best way is to write a procedure in MySQL however I am interested in any 
 python-based alternatives.

*hint* use postgres instead where you can write stored functions in
python too :-)
(With some little modifications on the zope database adaptor you 
could even return a dictionary or btree object as result
of your query then :-)

SCNR
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[Zope] Re: oddity with zope and webdav

2005-12-05 Thread Sam Stainsby
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 18:17:38 -0700, David Bear wrote:

 I have a zope instance listening on localhost. I use apache and fastcgi to
 reach zope. Now I would like to provide webdav. Since my apache is already
 doing ssl, I wanted webdav connections to also go through apache.
 
 when I use cadaver and connect to my zope zope through apache, all works
 well even though I have specified in my zope.conf file that  webdav listen
 on localhost:8088 (it seems that cadaver is smart enough working through the
 fastcgi interface to just work).
 
 When attempting to using dreamweaver mx or windows webfolders to connect to
 zope I get an error.
 
 So I attempted to use an apache proxy pass directive to campture all urls at
 myzopeserver.edu:8088/webdav back to localhost:8088. This had no effect.
 cadaver was still able to work. Dreamweaver (using webdav site setup) and
 windows webfolders still failed.
 
 What deep magic do I need to make dav work through apache? ( would prefer to
 have all things go through fastcgi but I understand the trend is to use
 proxy-pass )


I believe this patch is required if using recent WinXP, due to Microsoft
webdav breakages:

http://teyc.editthispage.com/2005/06/02

It fixed webdav for web folder for me. Add the extra line into the OPTIONS
method of the file mentioned, where other headers are being set.

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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.9/ ObjectManager now has an hasObject method to test presence. This

2005-12-05 Thread Florent Guillaume
Log message for revision 40536:
  ObjectManager now has an hasObject method to test presence. This
  brings it in line with BTreeFolder.
  

Changed:
  U   Zope/branches/2.9/doc/CHANGES.txt
  U   Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py
  U   Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/interfaces.py
  U   Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py

-=-
Modified: Zope/branches/2.9/doc/CHANGES.txt
===
--- Zope/branches/2.9/doc/CHANGES.txt   2005-12-05 13:54:19 UTC (rev 40535)
+++ Zope/branches/2.9/doc/CHANGES.txt   2005-12-05 15:07:46 UTC (rev 40536)
@@ -26,6 +26,9 @@
 
 Features added
 
+  - ObjectManager now has an hasObject method to test presence. This
+brings it in line with BTreeFolder.
+
   - Using FastCGI is officially deprecated
 
   - Improved logging of ConflictErrors. All conflict errors are

Modified: Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py
===
--- Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py   2005-12-05 13:54:19 UTC 
(rev 40535)
+++ Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py   2005-12-05 15:07:46 UTC 
(rev 40536)
@@ -273,6 +273,20 @@
 raise AttributeError, id
 return default
 
+def hasObject(self, id):
+Indicate whether the folder has an item by ID.
+
+This doesn't try to be more intelligent than _getOb, and doesn't
+consult _objects (for performance reasons). The common use case
+is to check that an object does *not* exist.
+
+if (id in ('.', '..') or
+id.startswith('_') or
+id.startswith('aq_') or
+id.endswith('__')):
+return False
+return getattr(aq_base(self), id, None) is not None
+
 def _setObject(self, id, object, roles=None, user=None, set_owner=1,
suppress_events=False):
 Set an object into this container.

Modified: Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/interfaces.py
===
--- Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/interfaces.py  2005-12-05 13:54:19 UTC 
(rev 40535)
+++ Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/interfaces.py  2005-12-05 15:07:46 UTC 
(rev 40536)
@@ -531,6 +531,10 @@
 
 
 
+def hasObject(id):
+Indicate whether the folder has an item by ID.
+
+
 def objectIds(spec=None):
 List the IDs of the subobjects of the current object.
 

Modified: Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py
===
--- Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py 2005-12-05 
13:54:19 UTC (rev 40535)
+++ Zope/branches/2.9/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py 2005-12-05 
15:07:46 UTC (rev 40536)
@@ -328,6 +328,22 @@
 om2._setObject(ob.getId(), ob)
 self.assertRaises(DeleteFailed, om1._delObject, 'om2')
 
+def test_hasObject(self):
+om = self._makeOne()
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('_properties'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('_getOb'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('__of__'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('.'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('..'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('aq_base'))
+om.zap__ = True
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('zap__'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('foo'))
+si = SimpleItem('foo')
+om._setObject('foo', si)
+self.assert_(om.hasObject('foo'))
+om._delObject('foo')
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('foo'))
 
 def test_setObject_checkId_ok(self):
 om = self._makeOne()

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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/ Merged r40536 from 2.9 branch:

2005-12-05 Thread Florent Guillaume
Log message for revision 40537:
  Merged r40536 from 2.9 branch:
  ObjectManager now has an hasObject method to test presence. This
  brings it in line with BTreeFolder.
  

Changed:
  U   Zope/trunk/doc/CHANGES.txt
  U   Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py
  U   Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/interfaces.py
  U   Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py

-=-
Modified: Zope/trunk/doc/CHANGES.txt
===
--- Zope/trunk/doc/CHANGES.txt  2005-12-05 15:07:46 UTC (rev 40536)
+++ Zope/trunk/doc/CHANGES.txt  2005-12-05 15:12:52 UTC (rev 40537)
@@ -26,6 +26,9 @@
 
 Features added
 
+  - ObjectManager now has an hasObject method to test presence. This
+brings it in line with BTreeFolder.
+
   - Using FastCGI is offically deprecated.
 
   - Improved logging of ConflictErrors. All conflict errors are

Modified: Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py
===
--- Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py  2005-12-05 15:07:46 UTC (rev 
40536)
+++ Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py  2005-12-05 15:12:52 UTC (rev 
40537)
@@ -272,6 +272,20 @@
 raise AttributeError, id
 return default
 
+def hasObject(self, id):
+Indicate whether the folder has an item by ID.
+
+This doesn't try to be more intelligent than _getOb, and doesn't
+consult _objects (for performance reasons). The common use case
+is to check that an object does *not* exist.
+
+if (id in ('.', '..') or
+id.startswith('_') or
+id.startswith('aq_') or
+id.endswith('__')):
+return False
+return getattr(aq_base(self), id, None) is not None
+
 def _setObject(self, id, object, roles=None, user=None, set_owner=1,
suppress_events=False):
 Set an object into this container.

Modified: Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/interfaces.py
===
--- Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/interfaces.py 2005-12-05 15:07:46 UTC (rev 
40536)
+++ Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/interfaces.py 2005-12-05 15:12:52 UTC (rev 
40537)
@@ -531,6 +531,10 @@
 
 
 
+def hasObject(id):
+Indicate whether the folder has an item by ID.
+
+
 def objectIds(spec=None):
 List the IDs of the subobjects of the current object.
 

Modified: Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py
===
--- Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py2005-12-05 
15:07:46 UTC (rev 40536)
+++ Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py2005-12-05 
15:12:52 UTC (rev 40537)
@@ -328,6 +328,22 @@
 om2._setObject(ob.getId(), ob)
 self.assertRaises(DeleteFailed, om1._delObject, 'om2')
 
+def test_hasObject(self):
+om = self._makeOne()
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('_properties'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('_getOb'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('__of__'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('.'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('..'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('aq_base'))
+om.zap__ = True
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('zap__'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('foo'))
+si = SimpleItem('foo')
+om._setObject('foo', si)
+self.assert_(om.hasObject('foo'))
+om._delObject('foo')
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('foo'))
 
 def test_setObject_checkId_ok(self):
 om = self._makeOne()

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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/ Merged r40536 from 2.9 branch:

2005-12-05 Thread Florent Guillaume
Log message for revision 40542:
  Merged r40536 from 2.9 branch:
  ObjectManager now has an hasObject method to test presence. This
  brings it in line with BTreeFolder.
  

Changed:
  U   Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/doc/CHANGES.txt
  U   Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py
  U   Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py

-=-
Modified: Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/doc/CHANGES.txt
===
--- Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/doc/CHANGES.txt   2005-12-05 15:15:05 UTC 
(rev 40541)
+++ Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/doc/CHANGES.txt   2005-12-05 15:23:20 UTC 
(rev 40542)
@@ -58,6 +58,9 @@
 
 Other
 
+  - ObjectManager now has an hasObject method to test presence. This
+brings it in line with BTreeFolder.
+
   - Made 'zopectl test' work for software homes which do not have
 an inplace build (it used to require that test.py be in
 $ZOPE_HOME/bin/;  now it will use $ZOPE_HOME as a fallback).

Modified: Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py
===
--- Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py   
2005-12-05 15:15:05 UTC (rev 40541)
+++ Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py   
2005-12-05 15:23:20 UTC (rev 40542)
@@ -261,6 +261,20 @@
 raise AttributeError, id
 return default
 
+def hasObject(self, id):
+Indicate whether the folder has an item by ID.
+
+This doesn't try to be more intelligent than _getOb, and doesn't
+consult _objects (for performance reasons). The common use case
+is to check that an object does *not* exist.
+
+if (id in ('.', '..') or
+id.startswith('_') or
+id.startswith('aq_') or
+id.endswith('__')):
+return False
+return getattr(aq_base(self), id, None) is not None
+
 def _setObject(self, id, object, roles=None, user=None, set_owner=1):
 v=self._checkId(id)
 if v is not None: id=v

Modified: 
Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py
===
--- Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py 
2005-12-05 15:15:05 UTC (rev 40541)
+++ Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/tests/testObjectManager.py 
2005-12-05 15:23:20 UTC (rev 40542)
@@ -303,6 +303,23 @@
 om2._setObject(ob.getId(), ob)
 self.assertRaises(DeleteFailed, om1._delObject, 'om2')
 
+def test_hasObject(self):
+om = self._makeOne()
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('_properties'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('_getOb'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('__of__'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('.'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('..'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('aq_base'))
+om.zap__ = True
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('zap__'))
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('foo'))
+si = SimpleItem('foo')
+om._setObject('foo', si)
+self.assert_(om.hasObject('foo'))
+om._delObject('foo')
+self.failIf(om.hasObject('foo'))
+
 def test_setObject_checkId_ok(self):
 om = self._makeOne()
 si = SimpleItem('1')

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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/ - reverted workaround in '_verifyObjectPaste'; 'checkPermission' now respects proxy roles

2005-12-05 Thread Yvo Schubbe
Log message for revision 40550:
  - reverted workaround in '_verifyObjectPaste'; 'checkPermission' now respects 
proxy roles

Changed:
  U   Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/doc/CHANGES.txt
  U   Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py
  U   Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/tests/testCopySupport.py

-=-
Modified: Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/doc/CHANGES.txt
===
--- Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/doc/CHANGES.txt   2005-12-05 17:13:57 UTC 
(rev 40549)
+++ Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/doc/CHANGES.txt   2005-12-05 18:26:15 UTC 
(rev 40550)
@@ -26,6 +26,11 @@
 
 Bugs Fixed
 
+  - CopySupport: Reverted workaround in '_verifyObjectPaste'.
+'checkPermission' now respects proxy roles, so the warkaround
+introduced to fix http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/78 is no longer
+needed. Meta types listed in all_meta_types need a 'permission' key.
+
   - Collector #1774:  Harmonize the implementation of
 AccessControl.ZopeSecurityPolicy.checkPermission
 with 'validate', checking ownership and proxy roles if an

Modified: Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py
===
--- Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py 2005-12-05 
17:13:57 UTC (rev 40549)
+++ Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py 2005-12-05 
18:26:15 UTC (rev 40550)
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
 from cgi import escape
 from marshal import loads, dumps
 from urllib import quote, unquote
+from warnings import warn
 from zlib import compress, decompress
 
 import Globals, Moniker, ExtensionClass
@@ -352,7 +353,7 @@
 if not hasattr(object, 'meta_type'):
 raise CopyError, MessageDialog(
   title   = 'Not Supported',
-  message = ('The object EM%s/EM does not support this' \
+  message = ('The object em%s/em does not support this' \
  ' operation' % escape(absattr(object.id))),
   action  = 'manage_main')
 
@@ -372,36 +373,50 @@
 mt_permission = d.get('permission')
 break
 
-if method_name:
-try:
-method = self.restrictedTraverse(method_name)
-# method_name is e.g.
-# manage_addProduct/PageTemplates/manage_addPageTemplateForm.
-# restrictedTraverse will raise Unauthorized if it
-# can't obtain the factory method by name due to a
-# security restriction.  We depend on this side effect
-# here!  Note that we use restrictedTraverse as
-# opposed to checkPermission to take into account the
-# special security circumstances related to proxy
-# roles.  See collector #78.
+if mt_permission is not None:
+sm = getSecurityManager()
 
-except Unauthorized:
-if mt_permission:
+if sm.checkPermission(mt_permission, self):
+if validate_src:
+# Ensure the user is allowed to access the object on the
+# clipboard.
+try:
+parent = aq_parent(aq_inner(object))
+except:
+parent = None
+
+if not sm.validate(None, parent, None, object):
+raise Unauthorized(absattr(object.id))
+
+if validate_src == 2: # moving
+if not sm.checkPermission(DeleteObjects, parent):
+raise Unauthorized('Delete not allowed.')
+else:
+raise CopyError, MessageDialog(
+title = 'Insufficient Privileges',
 message = ('You do not possess the %s permission in the '
'context of the container into which you are '
'pasting, thus you are not able to perform '
-   'this operation.' % mt_permission)
-else:
+   'this operation.' % mt_permission),
+action = 'manage_main')
+elif method_name:
+# BBB: fallback for missing or None permission
+warn(The required 'permission' key is not set or None for meta 
+ type '%s'. This fallback will be removed in Zope 2.9.
+ % object.meta_type,
+ DeprecationWarning)
+try:
+method = self.restrictedTraverse(method_name)
+except Unauthorized:
+raise CopyError, MessageDialog(
+title = 'Insufficient Privileges',
 message = ('You do not possess the permission required '
'to call %s in the 

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/ - reverted workaround in '_verifyObjectPaste'; 'checkPermission' now respects proxy roles

2005-12-05 Thread Yvo Schubbe
Log message for revision 40552:
  - reverted workaround in '_verifyObjectPaste'; 'checkPermission' now respects 
proxy roles

Changed:
  U   Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py
  U   Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/tests/testCopySupport.py

-=-
Modified: Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py
===
--- Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py2005-12-05 18:26:31 UTC (rev 
40551)
+++ Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py2005-12-05 18:26:49 UTC (rev 
40552)
@@ -477,7 +477,7 @@
 if not hasattr(object, 'meta_type'):
 raise CopyError, MessageDialog(
   title   = 'Not Supported',
-  message = ('The object EM%s/EM does not support this' \
+  message = ('The object em%s/em does not support this' \
  ' operation' % escape(absattr(object.id))),
   action  = 'manage_main')
 
@@ -497,60 +497,38 @@
 mt_permission = d.get('permission')
 break
 
-if method_name:
-try:
-method = self.restrictedTraverse(method_name)
-# method_name is e.g.
-# manage_addProduct/PageTemplates/manage_addPageTemplateForm.
-# restrictedTraverse will raise Unauthorized if it
-# can't obtain the factory method by name due to a
-# security restriction.  We depend on this side effect
-# here!  Note that we use restrictedTraverse as
-# opposed to checkPermission to take into account the
-# special security circumstances related to proxy
-# roles.  See collector #78.
+if mt_permission is not None:
+sm = getSecurityManager()
 
-except Unauthorized:
-if mt_permission:
+if sm.checkPermission(mt_permission, self):
+if validate_src:
+# Ensure the user is allowed to access the object on the
+# clipboard.
+try:
+parent = aq_parent(aq_inner(object))
+except:
+parent = None
+
+if not sm.validate(None, parent, None, object):
+raise Unauthorized(absattr(object.id))
+
+if validate_src == 2: # moving
+if not sm.checkPermission(delete_objects, parent):
+raise Unauthorized('Delete not allowed.')
+else:
+raise CopyError, MessageDialog(
+title = 'Insufficient Privileges',
 message = ('You do not possess the %s permission in the '
'context of the container into which you are '
'pasting, thus you are not able to perform '
-   'this operation.' % mt_permission)
-else:
-message = ('You do not possess the permission required '
-   'to call %s in the context of the container '
-   'into which you are pasting, thus you are not '
-   'able to perform this operation.' % method_name)
-
-raise CopyError, MessageDialog(
-  title = 'Insufficient Privileges',
-  message = message,
-  action = 'manage_main')
-
-if validate_src:
-
-sm = getSecurityManager()
-
-# Ensure the user is allowed to access the object on the
-# clipboard.
-try:
-parent = aq_parent(aq_inner(object))
-except:
-parent = None
-
-if not sm.validate(None,parent,None,object):
-raise Unauthorized, absattr(object.id)
-
-if validate_src == 2: # moving
-if not sm.checkPermission(delete_objects, parent):
-raise Unauthorized, 'Delete not allowed.'
-
-else: # /if method_name
+   'this operation.' % mt_permission),
+action = 'manage_main')
+else:
 raise CopyError, MessageDialog(
-  title   = 'Not Supported',
-  message = ('The object EM%s/EM does not support this '
- 'operation.' % escape(absattr(object.id))),
-  action  = 'manage_main')
+title = 'Not Supported',
+message = ('The object em%s/em does not support this '
+   'operation.' % escape(absattr(object.id))),
+action = 'manage_main')
 
 InitializeClass(CopyContainer)
 

Modified: Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/tests/testCopySupport.py

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/tags/2.9.0b1/ Zope 2.9.0 beta 1

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung
Log message for revision 40578:
  Zope 2.9.0 beta 1
  

Changed:
  A   Zope/tags/2.9.0b1/

-=-
Copied: Zope/tags/2.9.0b1 (from rev 40577, Zope/branches/2.9)

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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.9/doc/CHANGES.txt typo

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung
Log message for revision 40579:
  typo
  

Changed:
  U   Zope/branches/2.9/doc/CHANGES.txt

-=-
Modified: Zope/branches/2.9/doc/CHANGES.txt
===
--- Zope/branches/2.9/doc/CHANGES.txt   2005-12-06 06:43:47 UTC (rev 40578)
+++ Zope/branches/2.9/doc/CHANGES.txt   2005-12-06 06:44:09 UTC (rev 40579)
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
 
- Collector #1233: port ZOPE_CONFIG patch from Zope 2.7 to Zope 2.8
 
-  Zope 2.9.1 beta 1 (2005/12/06)
+  Zope 2.9.0 beta 1 (2005/12/06)
 
 Features added
 

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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/tags/2.9.0b1/2.9/ Zope 2.9.0 b1

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung
Log message for revision 40580:
  Zope 2.9.0 b1
  

Changed:
  A   Zope/tags/2.9.0b1/2.9/

-=-
Copied: Zope/tags/2.9.0b1/2.9 (from rev 40579, Zope/branches/2.9)

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[Zope-dev] zLOG deprecation?

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Hi All,

Is zLOG deprecated?

If not, it should be...

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Re: [Zope-dev] Logging of ConflictError

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Dennis Allison wrote:

Dieter's point about not includeing the traceback makes sense
if all it does is report on the reporting code.


Yeah, the traceback just shows where the ConflictError was raised, not 
what caused it, and theyr'e always in very different places...



Wlorent, do you envision a single ConflicError or two -- one which
succeeds on retry and another where the retry fails?


Huh?

ConflictErrors are ConflictErrors, it's a server level decision as to 
how they're handled. Zope chooses to retry the whole request up to 3 
times when a ConflictError occurs.


The new logging code I put in records exactly how many conflicts have 
occurrred, and how many remain unresolved even after 3 retries.


I know you've been having fun with this type of error, so you might well 
want to grav the changes from svn and give them a spin...


cheers,

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Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
In my case it's mostly filesystem-based resources (css files, or images) 
accessed in read mode (zope-2.8.4). But the information no matter where 
it comes from has very little value compared to other messages in the 
log file, because these are completely predictable.


That's your judgement. Many of us feel differently.

In the log flle I'd like to be informed about events that are 
unexpected. Conflict errors of this kind occur by design.


...well, by the design of your app, yes. If you're getting more than a 
few, you really need to reconsider your design.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Time for a beta!

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 4. Dezember 2005 20:55:48 +0100 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:





--On 4. Dezember 2005 14:36:17 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Zope 3 seems to ve ready for a beta release.  Does that mean Zope 2
is ready?



Zope 2 should be ready. However there seems to be an unresolved issue with
building the distribution archive from the sources (something for
Philipp?).


This issue is now resolved (local problem on my side). So I am ready to cut 
a b1 release.


Andreas


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[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG deprecation?

2005-12-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote:
 Is zLOG deprecated?
 
 If not, it should be...

+10

zLOG/__init__.py says:

  Note:
This module exists only for backward compatibility.  Any new code
for Zope 2.8 and newer should use the logging module from Python's
standard library directly.  zLOG is only an API shim to map existing
use of zLOG onto the standard logging API.

That means we could deprecate it even in Zope 2.9, using zLOG has
already been discouraged in Zope 2.8. I'm not sure if the differences in
logging levels will be important to backward compatability.
ZODB/loglevels.py explains the differences::

  # In the days of zLOG, there were 7 standard log levels, and ZODB/ZEO used
  # all of them.  Here's how they map to the logging package's 5
 standard
  # levels:
  #
  #zLOG logging
  #----
  #PANIC (300)  FATAL, CRITICAL (50)
  #ERROR (200)  ERROR (40)
  #WARNING, PROBLEM (100)   WARN (30)
  #INFO (0) INFO (20)
  #BLATHER (-100)   none -- defined here as BLATHER (15)
  #DEBUG (-200) DEBUG (10)
  #TRACE (-300) none -- defined here as TRACE (5)
  #
  # TRACE is used by ZEO for extremely verbose trace output, enabled only
  # when chasing bottom-level communications bugs.  It really should be at
  # a lower level than DEBUG.
  #
  # BLATHER is a harder call, and various instances could probably be folded
  # into INFO or DEBUG without real harm.

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[Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 b1 coming

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung

Just to let you know: Zope 2.9 b1 will be released together with Zope 3.2 b1
this Wednesday..so the last changes and fixes should be done until
Wednesday morning.

Thanks,
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 b1 coming

2005-12-05 Thread Jim Fulton

Andreas Jung wrote:
Just to let you know: Zope 2.9 b1 will be released together with Zope 
3.2 b1

this Wednesday..so the last changes and fixes should be done until
Wednesday morning.


I'm going to try to get a 3.2 beta out today.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 b1 coming

2005-12-05 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 5. Dezember 2005 16:10:11 +0100 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Just to let you know: Zope 2.9 b1 will be released together with Zope 3.2
b1
this Wednesday..so the last changes and fixes should be done until
Wednesday morning.



We will release 2.9 earlier. Jim is going to release 3.2 hopefully tonight
and I will follow with the 2.9 b1 release tomorrow morning.

Andrea

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[Zope-dev] ObjectManager.hasObject

2005-12-05 Thread Florent Guillaume

I've added a long needed hasObject method to ObjectManager.
Note that BTreeFolder2 has had it for a long time and it's quite useful.
Enjoy.

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[Zope-dev] Re: toplevel products folder in zope svn ?

2005-12-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Rocky Burt wrote:
 Anyone know if there is any plan to add a toplevel products folder in
 the zope svn repo like there currently is in zope's cvs repo?  I know
 this has held up a few products from going from zope CVS to SVN.

I don't think a separate Products folder is is necessary. Just make
top-level projects in SVN, like

  /Products.Basket/trunk/Basket

This would follow the pattern of other top-level projects whose project
names are their dotted name, like zope.testing.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-05 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 23:00 +0100, Florent Guillaume wrote:
 1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level:
 - INFO
INFO
 - BLATHER
 - DEBUG
 - not logged
 - other
 
 2. In addition, please specify if you feel those retried  
 ConflictErrors should have their full traceback logged?
 - Yes, with traceback
 - No, without traceback
No Traceback
 3. Finally, please tell us if the ConflictErrors that *can't* be  
 retried (and are returned to the user as an error, and are also  
 logged to the error_log) should be additionally explicitely logged to  
 the event log, and at which level:
 - ERROR
 - not logged
 - other
Error
 
 (Also, if you feel the logging should be different between 2.8 and  
 2.9, please say so.)
 
 I'll wait until Wednesday morning to collect results.
 
 Thanks,
 Florent
 
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[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG deprecation?

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

If not, it should be...


+10


Yeah, me too! Hence why I was asking ;-)


That means we could deprecate it even in Zope 2.9, using zLOG has
already been discouraged in Zope 2.8. 


Cool, Andreas, can you make it start emitting deprecation warnings?
(if you do, lemme know and I'll go grep the Zope 2 source and try and 
eradicate any remaining zLOG)



I'm not sure if the differences in
logging levels will be important to backward compatability.


I _know_ they won't ;-)


ZODB/loglevels.py explains the differences::

  # In the days of zLOG, there were 7 standard log levels, and ZODB/ZEO used
  # all of them.  Here's how they map to the logging package's 5
 standard
  # levels:
  #
  #zLOG logging
  #----
  #PANIC (300)  FATAL, CRITICAL (50)
  #ERROR (200)  ERROR (40)
  #WARNING, PROBLEM (100)   WARN (30)
  #INFO (0) INFO (20)
  #BLATHER (-100)   none -- defined here as BLATHER (15)
  #DEBUG (-200) DEBUG (10)


imnsho, blather and debug are the wrong way round. blather should go 
away completely, it's a stupid name anyway :-(


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[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG deprecation?

2005-12-05 Thread Florent Guillaume

Chris Withers wrote:
  # In the days of zLOG, there were 7 standard log levels, and 
ZODB/ZEO used

  # all of them.  Here's how they map to the logging package's 5
 standard
  # levels:
  #
  #zLOG logging
  #----
  #PANIC (300)  FATAL, CRITICAL (50)
  #ERROR (200)  ERROR (40)
  #WARNING, PROBLEM (100)   WARN (30)
  #INFO (0) INFO (20)
  #BLATHER (-100)   none -- defined here as BLATHER (15)
  #DEBUG (-200) DEBUG (10)



imnsho, blather and debug are the wrong way round. blather should go 
away completely, it's a stupid name anyway :-(


Just because you don't see the use in something doesn't mean it has to go away.

In my book BLATHER is used for verbose INFO and is different than DEBUG 
and TRACE (both levels are useful too). INFO and BLATHER are for the 
administrator. DEBUG and TRACE are for the developer.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG deprecation?

2005-12-05 Thread Dennis Allison

We probably want an ALL level as well which would map to the NOTSET 
of the Python logging code and log everything.

Florent, I don't see a TRACE level in this list.  Did you think one was 
needed?


On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Florent Guillaume wrote:

 Chris Withers wrote:
# In the days of zLOG, there were 7 standard log levels, and 
  ZODB/ZEO used
# all of them.  Here's how they map to the logging package's 5
   standard
# levels:
#
#zLOG logging
#----
#PANIC (300)  FATAL, CRITICAL (50)
#ERROR (200)  ERROR (40)
#WARNING, PROBLEM (100)   WARN (30)
#INFO (0) INFO (20)
#BLATHER (-100)   none -- defined here as BLATHER (15)
#DEBUG (-200) DEBUG (10)
  
  
  imnsho, blather and debug are the wrong way round. blather should go 
  away completely, it's a stupid name anyway :-(
 
 Just because you don't see the use in something doesn't mean it has to go 
 away.
 
 In my book BLATHER is used for verbose INFO and is different than DEBUG 
 and TRACE (both levels are useful too). INFO and BLATHER are for the 
 administrator. DEBUG and TRACE are for the developer.
 
 Florent
 
 

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG deprecation?

2005-12-05 Thread Tim Peters
[Dennis Allison]
 We probably want an ALL level as well which would map to the NOTSET
 of the Python logging code and log everything.

Why not call it NOTSET?  Then you already have it ;-)  Or forget it --
TRACE gets everything anyway.

 Florent, I don't see a TRACE level in this list.  Did you think one was
 needed?

See Florent's original message; Chris chopped TRACE away in his reply.

Also note that the code Florent pointed at is part of ZODB, not part
of Zope.  Zope shouldn't use it directly.  Growing its own copy would
be OK, or refactoring so that ZODB and Zope both get it from a shared
new mini-project.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-05 Thread Willi Langenberger
Florent Guillaume wrote at 2005-12-2 23:00 +0100:
Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried conflict  
errors. These are the ConflictErrors that aren't returned to the user  
but automatically retried by the Zope publisher.

1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level:
- INFO
- BLATHER
- DEBUG
- not logged
- other

INFO

(i *really* want to know, if there are lots of conflict errors)

2. In addition, please specify if you feel those retried  
ConflictErrors should have their full traceback logged?
- Yes, with traceback
- No, without traceback

No traceback

(as Dieter has pointed out, they contain no useful information)

3. Finally, please tell us if the ConflictErrors that *can't* be  
retried (and are returned to the user as an error, and are also  
logged to the error_log) should be additionally explicitely logged to  
the event log, and at which level:
- ERROR
- not logged
- other

Like any other exception seen by the user


Thanks!


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[Zope-dev] Re: AcceleratedHTTPCache and virtual hosting (collector 1447)

2005-12-05 Thread Paul Winkler
On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 11:29:48AM -0500, Tres Seaver wrote:
 Paul Winkler wrote:
(snip)
  ... AcceleratedHTTPCacheManager has no test
  suite at all.

Erm. Actually it does; Tres added it on the TRUNK many months ago.
I was looking at a 2.7 checkout! Mea culpa.

However, the test suite currently *does* fire up an HTTP server (on a
hardwired port, 1888). As I said, I'm not crazy about this, it seems
needlessly fragile and makes the test code harder to read than I'd like.

So I'm inclined to follow Tres' adapter suggestion, it seems like The
Right Thing to me. I'll modify the existing suite accordingly on a
branch.

To the other respondents: Thanks for the suggestions, but I do not
consider making AcceleratedHTTPCacheManager more flexible to be a test
turd. Tres outlined a real use case for changing the code (see below).
I don't understand why you guys consider this more invasive than
monkeypatching, which is capable of causing obscure breakage in
far-flung tests.  But thanks anyway.

 You could modify the testing code do an adapter lookup for a component
 used to do the HTTP client stuff, and then arrange to register your
 dummy object in a test.  I imagine that this would be useful for more
 than just testing;  for instance, if I want to purge a whole tier of
 Squids, right now the only way to do that is to write a proxy-proxy (one
 version I wrote once was called PageAssassin) which distributes the
 PURGE request to them.  An adapter-based scheme would allow me to
 replace the stock version with one which distributed the PURGE directly.
 
 
 Tres.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-05 Thread Julien Anguenot
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Florent Guillaume wrote:
 Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried conflict
 errors. These are the ConflictErrors that aren't returned to the user
 but automatically retried by the Zope publisher.
 
 1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level:
 - INFO
 - BLATHER
 - DEBUG
 - not logged
 - other
 

BLATHER.

 2. In addition, please specify if you feel those retried ConflictErrors
 should have their full traceback logged?
 - Yes, with traceback
 - No, without traceback

with traceback because of the BLATHER mode above.

 
 3. Finally, please tell us if the ConflictErrors that *can't* be retried
 (and are returned to the user as an error, and are also logged to the
 error_log) should be additionally explicitely logged to the event log,
 and at which level:
 - ERROR
 - not logged
 - other
 

ERROR

 (Also, if you feel the logging should be different between 2.8 and 2.9,
 please say so.)
 

Of course the same...

J.

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[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG deprecation?

2005-12-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote:
 Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
 If not, it should be...
 
  +10

 Yeah, me too! Hence why I was asking ;-)

  That means we could deprecate it even in Zope 2.9, using zLOG has
  already been discouraged in Zope 2.8.

 Cool, Andreas, can you make it start emitting deprecation warnings?
 (if you do, lemme know and I'll go grep the Zope 2 source and try and
 eradicate any remaining zLOG)

This would probably best be handled by one person, so if you are willing to do 
all the
grepping and updating, making zLOG deprecated would just be a minor operation 
:). In
zLOG.LOG one would call warnings.warn() and the custom zLOG logging level 
constants could
be wrapped in a deprecation warnings (zope.deprecation.deprecate) telling 
people where to
import the level from now (either logging or ZODB.loglevels).

  I'm not sure if the differences in
  logging levels will be important to backward compatability.

 I _know_ they won't ;-)

If you say so :)

  ZODB/loglevels.py explains the differences::
 
# In the days of zLOG, there were 7 standard log levels, and ZODB/ZEO used
# all of them.  Here's how they map to the logging package's 5
   standard
# levels:
#
#zLOG logging
#----
#PANIC (300)  FATAL, CRITICAL (50)
#ERROR (200)  ERROR (40)
#WARNING, PROBLEM (100)   WARN (30)
#INFO (0) INFO (20)
#BLATHER (-100)   none -- defined here as BLATHER (15)
#DEBUG (-200) DEBUG (10)

 imnsho, blather and debug are the wrong way round. blather should go
 away completely, it's a stupid name anyway :-(

Well, stupid or not, the order in which BLATHER and DEBUG are should be 
preserved, even if
it might not make sense. Question is if we actually need BLATHER in the future. 
For all I
care we could rip it out.

Philipp



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ConflictError's worthwhile to note? (was: Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging)

2005-12-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote at 2005-12-4 22:28 +0100:
 ...
In the log flle I'd like to be informed about events that are 
unexpected. Conflict errors of this kind occur by design.

This argument is not convincing:

  In a similar way, I could argue that MemoryErrors are there
  by design.

  While it is true that *occational* ConflictErrors are nothing
  to worry about, a higher rate indicates that you soon
  may come into trouble -- because the risk increases that
  the automatic retries will not be able to recover and
  your users will see errors.

Obviously, a ConflictError is far less important than
a MemoryError, but a higher rate of conflicts should be analysed
and if possible avoided.

The conflict rate is related to the quality of your application design. 
I like quality related information in my logfiles -- to be able
to take action before it is too late.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Ignoring Warnings

2005-12-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2005-12-5 07:37 +:
Great, so rather than fix the warnings, we add code to ignore them...

 Usage: ./bin/zopectl test --keepbytecode --nowarnings --dir Products/CMFPlone

A colleague of mine will be very happy:

  The hundreds of (mostly stupid deprecation) warnings prevent him
  to efficiently find the true problems in the test runner reports.

In principle, he could fix the warnings -- but they (mostly) come
not from our code but third party one. And, if possible, he
would perfer not to such third party code...


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[Zope-dev] version.txt [was: make sdist]

2005-12-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Jung wrote:
 make sdist:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/sandboxes/Zope-2.9/2.9.0b1: make sdist
 zpkg -C /develop/sandboxes/Zope-2.9/2.9.0b1/releases/Zope2.cfg
 'version.txt' doesn't match any files in collection
 (in /develop/sandboxes/Zope-2.9/2.9.0b1/lib/python/zope/app/PACKAGE.cfg)
 
 temporary files are in /tmp/zpkg-50vtPj
 make: *** [sdist] Error 1

This is a very recent problem and a result of Jim's inconsistent handling of the
version.txt matter yesterday. http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/MakingARelease says 
that
zope.app/version.txt should be created on a tag and zope.app/PACKAGE.cfg should 
also be
modified to include version.txt *on the tag*. Jim did the latter on the Zope 
3.2 branch.

The Zope 2.9 externals currently point to the Zope 3.2 branch which references 
version.txt
in PACKAGE.cfg but doesn't have one. Only the 3.2.0beta1 tag has it. I think 
that

  a) zope.app/PACKAGE.cfg should not mention version.txt when there isn't one, 
meaning on
the branch

  b) Zope 2.9 externals should now point to the Zope 3.2.0beta1 tag.

By the way, this issue reminds me: We haven't figured out how to handle Zope 2's
version.txt at all! I totally forgot about it. Zope 2 expects a version.txt in
Zope/lib/python, but zpkg has no way to support a data file that isn't in a 
Python
package. So there would be no way to package it nor to install it (I don't think
distutils knows how to install a non-package-related datafile either).

I propose that the future place for Zope 2's version.txt is the Zope2 package. 
Some code
inside Zope 2 that reads version info from version.txt would have to be changed 
for that,
though. This should be fixed for the 2.9 beta, meaning today. I'm outside 
svn+ssh access
range right now, so either you do it, Andreas, or you wait until I'm at home in 
about 5
hours.

Philipp



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Re: [Zope-DB] Z SQL equivelant of MySQL's SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS?

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers

Charlie Clark wrote:

SELECT count(attribute) FROM relatiin WHERE condition


Ah, okay, now I gotcha...


only returns 1 result so it's independent of LIMIT and result sets.


I wonder how the two methods compare efficiency-wise?


Yes, well, we're talking about MySQL specifically ;-)

Maybe although I sometimes why MySQL does anything: the documentation seems 
to imply that many decisions were sort of let's do it like this: cf. 
particularly the recommendations for writing queries with JOINs. Personally I 
do not see it as valid SQL to predicate a query on what was just asked. 


Sorry, not a lot of this paragraph made sense :-S

Regarding the original question: if I know I am working with LIMITs or result 
sets then this implies I don't want to know the total size of the results 
beyound len(results).


Not so. Think of batches:

Now showing Results 5 - 10 of 25

But why not just return all the rows and only show 5 of them?

Now showing Results 5 - 10 of 25

;-)

Yes, it'll likely be a slower query anyway, but I can assure you, Zope 
turning each of those rows into a Result object will be a LOT slower...


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Re: [Zope-DB] Z SQL equivelant of MySQL's SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS?

2005-12-05 Thread Charlie Clark

On 2005-12-05 at 08:42:09 [+0100], Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Charlie Clark wrote:
 SELECT count(attribute) FROM relatiin WHERE condition
 
 Ah, okay, now I gotcha...
 
 only returns 1 result so it's independent of LIMIT and result sets.
 
 I wonder how the two methods compare efficiency-wise?
 
 Yes, well, we're talking about MySQL specifically ;-)

Well, with reference to Zope we shouldn't be...

  Maybe although I sometimes why MySQL does anything: the documentation 
  seems
  to imply that many decisions were sort of let's do it like this: cf.
  particularly the recommendations for writing queries with JOINs. 
  Personally I
  do not see it as valid SQL to predicate a query on what was just asked.
 
 Sorry, not a lot of this paragraph made sense :-S

It still does to me. Have you had your morning tea? It's not that important.
 
  Regarding the original question: if I know I am working with LIMITs or 
  result
  sets then this implies I don't want to know the total size of the results
  beyound len(results).
 
 Not so. Think of batches:
 
 Now showing Results 5 - 10 of 25
 
 But why not just return all the rows and only show 5 of them?
 
 Now showing Results 5 - 10 of 25

Yes, let's talk about batches - ZSQL doesn't implement batching so it 
collects the whole set of results available so len() is available. I agree 
that this is likely to be inefficient for large results but it doesn't 
require any additional calls. Or you do as Dieter suggested an run two calls 
- first one simply counts and the second one effectively does batching. 
Result sets aren't supported directly so unless the DA provides a method to 
query on the connection or cursor you will also have to run a separate query 
with count().

Which means: it would be nice if ZSQL supported batching, preferably by 
result sets and this means the DAs have to expose more of the underlying 
functionality and getting more information from the Python driver.

Charlie
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