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which supports just that list of types, plus code objects.
Or look at http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/howto/MiniPickle if you
need:
* Recusive data structures
* Compatability with the next version of python
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of errors on your server.
Is that true? I undestand only the root directory is necessary, unless
you have specifically linked another icon file from your html.
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tes change, but how much doesnt change?
ZODB will store a new copy of the whole object if just one attribute
changes. If you have some large attributes that rarely change then you
can save space by storing it in a different object.
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record at the very end. This is actually
not a big deal, and AFAIK in most cases ZODB is capable of
automatically rolling back a partially committed transaction.
I think the other exception is during an Undo, where Zope will rewrite
one byte in the middle of the file.
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les inside Zope.
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main problem, an external http cache is a big advantage too (I use
squid, see http://www.squid-cache.org)
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locality-of-reference within the object database. I think I can avoid
that using a squid redirector (www.squid-cache.org). Ill post any
news.
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place to hang squid. In my example above, I really want to be able to
cache the rendered pdf files.
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(which I was assuming, and I think Curtis was too). If this isn't a
problem, then your solution is great.
EddieWare does do 'intellgient' caching
eddieware is on my list of option to try out next month... Ill keep
you posted
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Hey really? Me too.
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/howto/caching
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purge your browsers cache after
fixing a caching bug, to eliminate all traces of the bug.
what you did, but ie keeps showing old data. this with a no-cache
header,must-revalidate.
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Steinar,
Did you call pythoncom.CoInitialize()?
If not you need to.
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o resource for search
results.
If you really do have a 67 page document, it would be better to store
each page in its own ZODB object, and index each page individually.
With that scheme your search results page only has to load a few
pages, rather than a few documents.
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pplication, but there are strong reasons for sticking with http
if possible: you can benefit from the existing tools and
infrastructure, plus Zope already talks http.
SOAP looks like it will be popular for similar reasons.
What do you need to do that makes http unsuitable?
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:
PWindows is EMnot/EM a supported platform.
I currently function in two worlds, Win98 and Linux.
Would I be right to say that 90% of Zopers live in world
number two?
Most of Zope (and python in general) is shockingly platform-neutral.
It sounds like the same might not be true of MySQL.
Toby
the methods, and use
that as a base class for your ZClass
pro: easy to add more methods
con: need to restart server after changes
need to do this before you create the ZClass
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the /manage interface. You may have to delete any existing acl_users
object first.
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how you get on. I will
## only include a user interface for these parameters once I
## have independant verification that there are no problems.
Have you had any feedback? Does this work at all?
No feedback on this from anyone yet. Im not sure what that means
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No feedback on this from anyone yet.
Well, that doesn't really sound encouraging...
Or maybe everyone is quietly happy
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e of the c modules get compiled, but
these seem to change rather rarely ...
I cant think of a better way if you don't have the compiler to hand.
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n src dist
Zope builds happily on a stock python 1.5.2 and the cvs versions of
2.0 too.
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ing a long
time restart?
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Now, who do I have to beat up to get the 're' module added to the namespace
variable??? :)
Not a good idea its too easy for a buggy regex to eat up lots of
memory and processor time.
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by not using the GPL. My contributions to Zope (both personal and on
company time) are fairly significant in total, and would not have
happened if Zope was under a GPL license.
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:33:05 +0200, "Dario Lopez-Kästen"
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If that is your motivation then you may find that you get *more* back
by not using the GPL. My contributions to Zope (both personal and on
comp
% agree with Brians caution here, however
For example in 1.6 strings have methods, which may or may not
have an impact on DTML safety. This is also the case for
Python 2.0.
string methods are safely inaccessible as of the new security
implementation in 2.2 (hurrah for private-by-default)
Toby
Though I am a newbie Zope developer, it was very kindly explained to me that a bug
in Python 1.6 was being ticked by Zope 2.2.1
FYI, all previous version too.
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inks every object is a folderish one, but Im talking about using
PropertyManager, ObjectManager and DTMLMethod all on one object. The main
problem being absolute_url on the object seems to be broken.
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function objects (using malloc, no less) and assigning them as
variables in the class object. Double Urgh!
;-)
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ient to sort matches. This is probably the case for an
index of bobobase_modification_time
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been some discussion on this class of bug on zope-dev this
week. http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/names is a list of other ids
that will change Zopes behaviour if used.
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stuff goes in here
to invoke it from dtml use dtml-var my_method
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have recently voiced their (legitimate) concern that by
default *practically everything* on their site is xml-rpc
enabled
Those people were concerned that too many things were exposed via
ZPublisher also My interpretation was that the issue is one of
access control, not publishing protocol.
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Definitely, yea!
I would really be interested in its correct results.
We have been stress testing our Zope application on NT and Linux. Our
conclusion is that OS is not a factor in Zope performa
the timings were all within a 15% band after a
little tweaking.
Personally I don't think this result is at all suprising: In a loaded
Zope system the processor spends all its time executing the python VM,
not OS code.
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It seems like this can be handled rather well by simply
adding a 'XML-RPC access', a 'SOAP access' and a 'WebDAV
access' set of permissions. we already have a 'FTP access'
permission which works fine.
Not quite.
That permission controls several methods that are particularly useful for
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:51:09 +0200, Pierre-Julien Grizel
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I still need help about my product needing to know its namespace...
You also need to read the answers already provided.
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/howto/FunctionTemplate
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Caches will cache the content, but always revalidate it before using
the cached reply.
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(hence StringIO).
File uploads are spooled into a temporary file, and the request is
only dispatched into Zope once the whole request has arrived.
Anything smarter than that will require some ZServer hacking.
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timestamp of the transaction
containing the most recent copy of the object. timestamping is
fundamental to ZODB. For this alone to work you will need to keep the
objects in separate data.fs files forever.
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http://localhost:8099/manage
So that url should http://localhost:8080/manage
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watching closely,
Not closely enough ;-)
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unnecessary memory hog for the expected load.
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ing levels of performance.
Yes
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you've noticed there is a lot more to Zope than just DTML and Python methods.
Like what?
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the same Apache? Apache integrates the two in a single URL namespace,
but keeping the application logic separate?
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you tried deleting the AeDebug/Debugger registry key, and setting
AeDebug/Auto to 1 to inhibit this dialog for your whole system?
Have you tried SetErrorMode(SEM_NOGPFAULTERRORBOX) (in the win32
python extensions) to inhibit this dialog for this one process?
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is of some help.
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thats -T 1 on the command line), rather than the default of 4. Each
thread gets a copy of the ZODB object cache, and you probably dont
want to keep four copies of your 700k document in memory.
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transferring 4561 bytes.
I hope this helps,
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this helps,
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nfiguraton.
If not, I strongly recommend using pages encoded in utf-8, and storing
your field values as unicode. Everything will then work happily for
non-germans too.
Standard Zope can't do this yet, you will need the patches at
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/wstring
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In my case:
Apache (for rewriting and SSL)
- Squid accelerator
- A custom load-balancing redirector
- Multiple Zopes
Have you had any significant latency, or other problems?
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If it supports the ability to direct traffic
based upon the virtual host address, then squid works
Yes, squid can do this using a redirector; an external program to
rewrite urls.
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modified, even if you dont think they should be.
http://www.zope.org/Members/tsarna/Tranalyzer
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If your method changes data then it will always get saved. The only way is
to make sure your method never modifies a persistent object.
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:33:16 -0600, "Alan Capesius"
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I would also recommend NOT using Win9x for ANYTHING. I always use NT.
There are those of us who use Zope in desktop applications too (yes
really), where Win9x is not an unreasonable choice.
Toby Dicken
is a debugging http proxy I like
http://www.cyberclip.com/webdebug/index.html
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, all my machines can now restart Zope in under 3
seconds ;-)
http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1260/view
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:27:43 +0200 (CEST), Dieter Maurer
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Toby Dickenson writes:
I'm about to start looking at running Zope on python 1.6 (Im feeling
the need for better Unicode support).
Almost surely, it will work.
But it probably will not use the Unicode support
thousands (well, I've tested it with only 1536, but I don't know of any
limit) of objects with a user interface optimized for such a large
folder.
I'm interested, but don't have time to install it at the moment. Could
someone post a gif of it's user interface please?
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Manager derived container, add
def all_meta_types(self):
return _meta_types_registry
Then use register_xxx_class(context,.. in place of
context.registerClass.
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:14:17 -0400, Shane Hathaway
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P.S. I wouldn't mind if someone posted this as a HOWTO. :-)
I think theres two, slighly different versions in already HOWTOs ;-)
Any chance of getting this into the Zope distribution?
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quickly when viewed over DSL - the connection bandwidth
doesnt affect how long the page takes to calculate! A modem user will
receive the first few bytes equally quickly - it just takes them
longer the receive the rest.
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rd/wstring
The current patch (version 0.3) is incompatible with the previous ones
(but this time it 'feels right'. I plan to keep this interface
stable). It needs python 2.0, and uses the new built-in unicode type.
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This problem goes away if I don't compile python with garbage
collection support. I guess I shouldn't be suprised.
Is anyone else using Zope with python 2.0? (on NT, fwiw)
I am occasionally seeing protection faults
sage when you posted the message, or there
is something strange with the object's type.
Unless you are using a pre-release python 1.6 or 2.0 - If so the name
of your type might not get printed if it is unicode
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use they derive from
SimpleItem.Item, which has __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__.
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Using __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ the object doesnt
_need_ to have a context (although it might be useful for other
things), so you can drop the __of__
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There is support for an optional C extension, which gave me a 12x
speed increase. Check out the source for xmlrpclib.py for pointers.
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of this header in some detail in a recent HowTo:
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/howto/caching
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the file gets updated?
An incomplete transaction at the end of Data.fs gets ignored and
is subsequently overwritten by the next new transaction. Data is always
appended to the file.
.except during an 'Undo', when one byte is rewritten in the middle
of the file.
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OFS.Item.SimpleItem (that is,
almost all high level objects) have the
__allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ flag set. Your method would
be callable from through-the-web dtml too.
The basic rules of Zope security are fairly easy; its the exceptions
that cause the problems.
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without causing a conflict, however your creation test has no
concurrency.
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nt CVS of python 2.0. This (and
other) bugs have been fixed relative to 1.6
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the structured text quoting of python source right
first time.
10. There are too many empty pages, because someone has clicked on a ?
next to word that happened to be a WikiName. Useful pages lie hidden
behind a sea of links to empty pages.
rant ends.
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good idea...
What's wrong with a mailing list? Is this just a case of NIH?
This thread has already been more productive than anything Ive done on
a Zope Wiki over the last year, and taken a fraction of the effort.
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| that were subsequently ignored - I guess because they got
lost in the
and from the WikiNG proposal:
For more elaborate editorial and commentary annotations, i can
see layered documents, using mixin
.
Rather, the tier is usually refered to as the presentation. When a
choice has to be made, such as the Architecture section, Template is
used as the temporary choice.
so-obvious-you-might-not-have-thought-of-it.. 'Presenter'
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would affect WikiNG until you
suggested the issue.
The inclusive nature of a mailing list is what makes it a useful
community resource.
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reached. My preference is that the discussion leading up to that
concensus takes place on zope-dev.
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Is anyone using Quixote's PTL?
http://www.mems-exchange.org/exchange/software/python/quixote/
It looks like it might be useful in the niche that involves too much
logic for DTML, and too much joining-strings-together to make python
(or PythonMethods) cumbersome.
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But there are
really
two ways to do this, either of which is viable.
1. the right way ;-)
2. Code all of your logic using TTW stuff and Zope
components. Use the
Publisher.Test.test method to call methods of your
Zope components
in unit tests.
Do you really
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Toby Dickenson wrote:
I'm not sure exactly what problem you are refering to. It sound's
like an issue of depending on a specific acquired name and having
the name overridden with something bogus
-trivial dtml
can be.(and how ugly error-free dtml is)
hth,
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s is a bug in Acquisition.
Full report and patch at
http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1066/view
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support the mode of discussion that we are
advocating *better* than *Todays* Wikis
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i.e. it is secure if the key *is* the data, rather than a key to the
data.
Can you explain? I do not see what you're getting at.
Consider how the tree-tag stores its 'session' data. Its impossible to
hijack a tree-tag session because the 'session' state is stored by the
client (in the
Are you suggesting that the session token should actually
store session
data?
As an alternative SessionManager, it appears to have some advatanges that
others do not.
It is the only option (AFAIK) that avoids the session hijacking problem
without relying on security-through-obscurity (the
elif o=='-S': sys.ZMANAGED=1
elif o=='-X':
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that is 'freely available and redistributable by others'.
We are currently using Zope to develop an application that does not
fall into this category. It would be a serious problem for us if
Zope's core had a dependency on code with this type of license.
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is negligible, and all the plausible alternatives need many more
lines of code.
Another advantage is that it promotes testability of the scheduled
events since it is easy (trivial) to reproduce the environment in
which they run when scheduled.
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you would use
def a_method(self,md):
do_stuff_with(md['param1'],md['param2'])
a_method = FunctionTemplate(a_method)
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