On Wednesday 20 December 2006 16:03, Jeff Shell wrote:
> On the other end of the spectrum is Django, whose admin screens are
> actually usable by other humans and very very easy to customize. How
> easy is it in Zope 3 to customize a folder contents view so that it
> shows different columns, allows
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 16:03, Jeff Shell wrote:
> > > > zope.app.file
> >
> > -1, I use it all the time in combination with zope.app.image to have
> > quick file support. This is acceptable, if you do not plan to store
> > thousands of large documents. BTW, I would welcome a conversion to us
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 16:03, Jeff Shell wrote:
> Another side topic: even after cleaning out all deprecation warnings
> in our code to make it run under Zope 3.3, I still get deprecation
> messages bubbling up from the ZODB, claiming to come from ZODB's
> "broken.py". It dawned on me just y
Previously Jeff Shell wrote:
> If TAL / Page Templates isn't really made available to anyone else,
> how could it get momentum? 'zope.tal', 'zope.tales' and
> 'zope.pagetemplate' could probably be combined into a nice
> world-usable egg. With the right extras and entry points, they could
> be used
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Myghthy) spending time optimizing it, etc. It's close enough to ZPT to
be palatable to me, and has some nice features for reuse.
I've really grown to hate attribute-based languages over the years.
Macros in ZPT now make me cry.
If we're going to get out of the server b
On 12/20/06, Jeff Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If TAL / Page Templates isn't really made available to anyone else,
how could it get momentum? 'zope.tal', 'zope.tales' and
'zope.pagetemplate' could probably be combined into a nice
world-usable egg.
zope.pagetemplate is used in JOTWeb: http:/
On 12/20/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rocky Burt wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-20-12 at 12:52 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> http://genshi.edgewall.org
>>
>> Inspired by Kid (in turn among others inspired by ZPT), the main
>> template language of TurboGears, written by the people who
On 12/19/06, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 06:16, Roger Ineichen wrote:
> > Here is a list of candidates for removal (please verify!):
I'm only commenting on the ones that I use, think have some use, or
just have questions about.
> > zope.fssync
+1
On 12/20/06, Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm actually -1 on "getting out of the server business" as well, at
least in terms of the Zope2 ZServer: I don't see it as requiring much
maintenance, and there *are* folks in the community (I can think of five
or six, at least) who know Medusa
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Rocky Burt wrote:
>> On Wed, 2006-20-12 at 12:52 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
>>> http://genshi.edgewall.org
>>>
>>> Inspired by Kid (in turn among others inspired by ZPT), the main
>>> template language of TurboGears, writte
On Wed, 2006-20-12 at 16:47 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Rocky Burt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-20-12 at 12:52 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> >> http://genshi.edgewall.org
> >>
> >> Inspired by Kid (in turn among others inspired by ZPT), the main
> >> template language of TurboGears, written by th
Rocky Burt wrote:
On Wed, 2006-20-12 at 12:52 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
http://genshi.edgewall.org
Inspired by Kid (in turn among others inspired by ZPT), the main
template language of TurboGears, written by the people who also created
Trac, and it seems to be getting traction. TurboGears
On Wed, 2006-20-12 at 12:52 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> http://genshi.edgewall.org
>
> Inspired by Kid (in turn among others inspired by ZPT), the main
> template language of TurboGears, written by the people who also created
> Trac, and it seems to be getting traction. TurboGears among othe
Hi Jim,
> Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [SpringCleaning07]
> > What's up with jsonserver?
[...]
> Hi, Roger
>
[...]
> For the moment, the Zif Collective is all "alpha" and
> experimental on SourceForge. Nothing released. Nothing to
> be alar
Roger Ineichen wrote:
Hi Jim,
It's premature to announce (we plan to have eggs on pypi
soon) , but take a look at zif.xtemplate at
zif.sourceforge.net . It's pretty alpha at the moment, but
it uses a DTD and some xpath to get around the "tags that
shouldn't be minimized" issue, and it in
Hi Jim,
> It's premature to announce (we plan to have eggs on pypi
> soon) , but take a look at zif.xtemplate at
> zif.sourceforge.net . It's pretty alpha at the moment, but
> it uses a DTD and some xpath to get around the "tags that
> shouldn't be minimized" issue, and it includes a first st
Hi Martijn
> > I saw the Grok package but what is Genshi?
> > Can you point me to a link?
>
> http://genshi.edgewall.org
>
> Inspired by Kid (in turn among others inspired by ZPT), the
> main template language of TurboGears, written by the people
> who also created Trac, and it seems to be g
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Jim Washington wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
http://genshi.edgewall.org
Inspired by Kid (in turn among others inspired by ZPT), the main
template language of TurboGears, written by the people who also
created Trac, and it seems to be getting traction. TurboGears among
Jim Washington wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
http://genshi.edgewall.org
Inspired by Kid (in turn among others inspired by ZPT), the main
template language of TurboGears, written by the people who also
created Trac, and it seems to be getting traction. TurboGears among
others is going to adop
Martijn Faassen wrote:
http://genshi.edgewall.org
Inspired by Kid (in turn among others inspired by ZPT), the main
template language of TurboGears, written by the people who also
created Trac, and it seems to be getting traction. TurboGears among
others is going to adopt it, but also things l
Roger Ineichen wrote:
Hi Martijn
Subject: [Zope3-dev] Re: [SpringCleaning07]
By the way, I'm quite interested in seeing whether we can
integrate Genshi into Zope 3 and Grok as a templating
language. It has some interesting ways to do things, and
there's quite a bit of momentum
Hi,
Adam Groszer wrote:
> Hello Stephan,
>
> Tuesday, December 19, 2006, 2:53:33 PM, you wrote:
>
zope.wfmc
>
> SR> +1, but please make it very easily available. People do use this code in
> SR> production; Zope Corp. and Adam Groszer come to mind.
>
> Yes, here :-)
>
> If it would be m
Hello Stephan,
Tuesday, December 19, 2006, 2:53:33 PM, you wrote:
>> > zope.wfmc
SR> +1, but please make it very easily available. People do use this code in
SR> production; Zope Corp. and Adam Groszer come to mind.
Yes, here :-)
If it would be moved out of the "feature-freeze-on-the-trunk" j
Hi Martijn
> Subject: [Zope3-dev] Re: [SpringCleaning07]
> By the way, I'm quite interested in seeing whether we can
> integrate Genshi into Zope 3 and Grok as a templating
> language. It has some interesting ways to do things, and
> there's quite a bit of momentum b
Stephan Richter wrote:
[snip]
Overall, I think the first step would be to agree on a common set of UI
patterns.
From what you say below I don't think we'll be able to do that very
soon. :) I think we should agree to disagree for now and just see
whoever gets to an admin UI first (or best).
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 10:01, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> What the ZMI is for needs a rethink; as part of the Grok project we hope
> to replace it with an admin UI, not a development UI.
Yes, Roger and I are doing this too in a couple of our custom projects. But
our admin UIs are often focused
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 10:01, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > - zope.app.undo
> >
> > Is anyone using this? I am certainly not. I think it can be removed.
> > Phllip, you put a lot of work into it, what do you think? However, I
> > think the code has a place in the repository, though there it runs
Stephan Richter wrote:
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 06:16, Roger Ineichen wrote:
Here is a list of candidates for removal (please verify!):
zope.dependencytool
-1, it is used by people to find dependencies in their packages. It is not
referenced anywhere in the code, because it is a standalone
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 09:29, Benji York wrote:
> Stephan Richter wrote:
> > - zope.app.renderer
> >
> > You can safely remove it from the base tree. It was not such a big
> > success as I was hoping for. Other approaches are easier. Note that wiki
> > and bugtracker still use this code, so it
Stephan Richter wrote:
- zope.app.renderer
You can safely remove it from the base tree. It was not such a big success as
I was hoping for. Other approaches are easier. Note that wiki and bugtracker
still use this code, so it should be still available for those packages.
I believe apidoc uses
Hi
> Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] RE: [SpringCleaning07]
>
> - zope.app.demo
>
> This is a really tricky one. The point of the package is to collect
> demonstration code and the point of it living in zope.app is
> that it will
> always work. But does it belong here
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 06:16, Roger Ineichen wrote:
> > Here is a list of candidates for removal (please verify!):
> > zope.dependencytool
-1, it is used by people to find dependencies in their packages. It is not
referenced anywhere in the code, because it is a standalone utility.
> > zope
Hi Christian, Baiju
> Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] RE: [SpringCleaning07]
>
> Hi,
>
> Roger Ineichen wrote:
> > What does removal mean?
>
> We have two possible situations for a package that I'd like
> to consider during spring cleaning:
>
> 1. packa
Hi,
Roger Ineichen wrote:
> What does removal mean?
We have two possible situations for a package that I'd like to consider
during spring cleaning:
1. packages that are in the src/ tree but are not distributed with Zope
releases
The question is whether those packages are maintained and th
On 12/19/06, Roger Ineichen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Baiju
> Subject: [SpringCleaning07]
>
> Here is a list of candidates for removal (please verify!):
> zope.dependencytool
> zope.fssync
> zope.importtool
> zope.modulealias
> zope.sequencesort
> zope.wfmc
> zope.xmlpickle
> zope.app.dtmlpa
Hi Baiju
> Subject: [SpringCleaning07]
>
> Here is a list of candidates for removal (please verify!):
> zope.dependencytool
> zope.fssync
> zope.importtool
> zope.modulealias
> zope.sequencesort
> zope.wfmc
> zope.xmlpickle
> zope.app.dtmlpage
> zope.app.file
> zope.app.fssync
> zope.app.zptpage
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