[Zope3-dev] KeywordIndex

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Shell
easier to figure out in Zope 3, thanks!) Is there any reason why KeywordIndex seems half-abandoned? I guess it's not exposed to zope.app because of this. What would it take to make it catch up to FieldIndex? Thanks -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list

Re: [Zope3-dev] KeywordIndex

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Shell
there right now going to be what ships with Zope 3.1 final? On 7/18/05, Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 18, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Jeff Shell wrote: I'm working on a simple application which is the first time I get to use the catalog in Zope 3. I'm writing against Zope 3.1b1. I

[Zope3-dev] Why I posted about Zope3.org (the outsider's thoughts that got me thinking)

2005-10-11 Thread Jeff Shell
. There are a lot of Python developers out there who have bad memories of Zope 2 but just may be the kind of developers who'd like or love Zope 3 if they could really see and understand what makes Zope 3 so great. -- Jeff Shell http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Why I posted about Zope3.org (the outsider's thoughts that got me thinking)

2005-10-11 Thread Jeff Shell
On 10/11/05, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 October 2005 13:24, Jeff Shell wrote: I'd really like to give Zope 3 a try, and I keep trying to. The docs are just nauseating. They might look good or fine to someone who's used Zope for years, but to someone new they're

Re: [Zope3-dev] Why I posted about Zope3.org (the outsider's thoughts that got me thinking)

2005-10-11 Thread Jeff Shell
On 10/11/05, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 October 2005 13:24, Jeff Shell wrote: Personally, I really like the Z3ECM project site - z3lab.org. It has a combination of blogs, papers, demos (animations) and documentation. That's still a project in its infancy

Re: [Zope3-dev] fssync and export/import for Zope 3

2005-10-11 Thread Jeff Shell
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES OH GOD YES! I mean. Yes! Backup/restore, and deploy. We're deploying a customers site in chunks - one section, then another, then a third. It's content that's being migrated off of Zope 2. The other developer here was complaining about

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope3 website report?

2005-10-12 Thread Jeff Shell
Why is WYSIWYG so important? Who's going to be editing all of that? I don't want another zopewiki.org. I think that zopewiki.org is a good site and that there should be an area of the site that's like that which may be open to the world - but I'd like serious / fun / USABLE documentation to be

Re: [Zope3-dev] hurry.query in Zope 3.2?

2005-10-28 Thread Jeff Shell
I love hurry.query. Whether it's in the core or not doesn't phase me, but it is really really helpful. We got bit by not realizing that FieldIndex queries passed directly to the catalog/index had a low and high range. It was a small bite. But it took us a while to figure out why searching for

[Zope3-dev] Generations - a missed use case? (Evolving an application for the first time)

2005-11-18 Thread Jeff Shell
I have an application where I'm trying to use 'zope.app.generations' for the first time. And after much pulling of hair and looking at the core code, I found what may be a missed scenario. Basically, we deployed this application for a customer and now they want some changes. It changes the schema

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Jeff Shell
Bottlerocket has also chosen MochiKit. It's not full of flashy effects, but its Ajax support is nice, it's well tested, and it brings a lot of Python style functionality to JavaScript which makes JavaScript suck a whole lot less (for real - the DOM and Iterator libraries are absolutely great). In

[Zope3-dev] View lookup changes in Zope 3.2?

2005-12-12 Thread Jeff Shell
Today I finally got around to installing Zope 3.2b1 and started testing one of our sites against it. I'm running into a few problems, some of which are my fault, some that I don't quite understand, and one that is really bad. We have been basically rolling a custom CMS in Zope 3, and the content

[Zope3-dev] Re: View lookup changes in Zope 3.2?

2005-12-13 Thread Jeff Shell
about how everything collaborates to establish an objects interfaces and in what order so I can ensure that the base Zope interfaces are lower on the providedBy list? On 12/12/05, Jeff Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I finally got around to installing Zope 3.2b1 and started testing one

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: View lookup changes in Zope 3.2?

2005-12-13 Thread Jeff Shell
On 12/13/05, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Shell wrote: Is it related to this? Bug in Multi Adapter Lookup? http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/396 ('fixed' in Zope 3.2b1) That's my suspicion. That would be my suspicion too. It should be easy to test. Just get

[Zope3-dev] Interface implementation declaration weight (was Re: View lookup changes in Zope 3.2?)

2005-12-13 Thread Jeff Shell
On 12/13/05, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Shell wrote: ... Going through a lot of debugging, it looks as through it has to do with how things are ranked in zope.interface.adapter.AdapterLookup.lookup() for multi-adapters. Yup. I don't know enough about the relationshipd

Re: [Zope3-dev] URGENT RFC: Is anyone using response.write in Zope 3?

2005-12-19 Thread Jeff Shell
I was using it in some custom views for HurryFile based images. I've removed it since I started testing our code against Zope 3.2. Right now I just return the hurryfile binary data with a return statement (one big chunk), but am looking forward to knowing how to return long output. On 12/19/05,

Re: [Zope3-dev] URGENT RFC: Is anyone using response.write in Zope 3?

2005-12-19 Thread Jeff Shell
from Zope is not that big of a concern to us... But back to the issue at hand - knowing how to better serve those out to the response would be a big help. On 12/19/05, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Shell wrote: I was using it in some custom views for HurryFile based images. I've

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2005-12-29 Thread Jeff Shell
-1. I use them very rarely, and expect to use them less with Viewlets now in the picture. But there are still little situations where Python expressions are handy, especially on big-macro templates where there's not a backing view. I'm not advocating programming in page templates, but there are

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2006-01-04 Thread Jeff Shell
On 1/3/06, Wade Leftwich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: To bring it to the point: _scripters_ should be able to develop in Zope 3 as easy as in Zope 2 :-) Or at least almost as easily as in RoR or Django. TTW is not a requirement; Chris McDonough's TTB posting was right on

[Zope3-dev] Undo Principal Transaction problems with pluggable users

2006-01-10 Thread Jeff Shell
I've developed a sick fascination with undo and have been working [hard] over the past few days trying to write some code for our internal frameworks to make Undo easy. Inspired by GMail's Message Discarded (Undo Discard) functionality, I've set about making something similar that does a modified

[Zope3-dev] Principal Comparison and/or References

2006-01-12 Thread Jeff Shell
(request.principal.id) should return the same principal as request.principal? And thus if somerecord['creator_id'] == request.principal.id, that's considered a good match? -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope3-dev] Principal Comparison and/or References

2006-01-13 Thread Jeff Shell
On 1/13/06, Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comparing the id attribute works. Is it reasonable to assume that zapi.principals().getPrincipal(request.principal.id) should return the same principal as request.principal? And thus if somerecord['creator_id'] == request.principal.id,

[Zope3-dev] schema api

2006-01-17 Thread Jeff Shell
down in the factories/classes section, maybe that's good enough? -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: ZCML bad ;-)

2006-01-21 Thread Jeff Shell
reading about and wrestling with their ZCML directives). -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] ZCML bad ;-)

2006-01-24 Thread Jeff Shell
On 1/24/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Poster wrote: FWIW, me too. I'm no XML guru (as Fred will attest ;-) ) but reading the namespaces on an XML file seems like basic XML procedure. Well, the reading of them is the lesser of my two complaints... I find it irksome to

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name

2006-02-07 Thread Jeff Shell
in what you say earlier - you can visit these sites and instantly get a grip on what's going on. (On the other hand, 'eggs' and 'paste' and all of these other things, I still don't understand). Alright, I've stayed up way too late on this. -- Jeff Shell

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name

2006-02-07 Thread Jeff Shell
On 2/7/06, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 07 February 2006 05:09, Jeff Shell wrote: Alright, I've stayed up way too late on this. Jeff, you always make great points! I would like to nominate you as the Zope 3 Propaganda Minister! :-) No seriously, you have a great way

Re: [Zope3-dev] One namespace for ZCML

2006-02-14 Thread Jeff Shell
On 2/13/06, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 February 2006 07:57, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Yet again looking for comments, this time at: http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/OneNamespaceForZCML. -1 Here some comments: - You do not argue how the decision-making process

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Last chance to comment on Simplify skinning

2006-02-15 Thread Jeff Shell
far. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 web root

2006-02-15 Thread Jeff Shell
On 2/10/06, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Withers wrote: I'd flip that, because I think you and Steve A would agree on one thing: The use of an object database _should_ be a choice, not a requirement, but it should also be the default ;-) Actually, I disagree--I don't want

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Last chance to comment on Simplify skinning

2006-02-15 Thread Jeff Shell
On 2/15/06, Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/15/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only that I have the same question Martijn does: Can I then override one of those resources and keep the other 34? Perhaps the resourceDirectory directive should just be sugar for a set of

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 web root

2006-02-15 Thread Jeff Shell
On 2/10/06, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wade Leftwich wrote: +1 from the standpoint of promoting corporate adoption, especially when combined with first-class citizenship for RDBMS. (In the corporation I work for, anyway.) Yes, RDBMS would become a first-class citizen. New

Re: [Zope3-dev] One namespace for ZCML

2006-02-16 Thread Jeff Shell
On 2/15/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: I do not think namespace declarations are dead chickens. For me declaring a namespace in ZCML is the same as importing a package or module in Python. You would not want all functions and classes in Python live in

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 web root

2006-02-16 Thread Jeff Shell
On 2/16/06, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Shell wrote: I agree that better integration with external data should be a priority for Zope. But what does that mean? In theory, if something's a Python object it should work with Zope 3 with relative ease... If that's

Re: [Zope3-dev] Brainstorming about browser pages

2006-02-17 Thread Jeff Shell
enforcing for all of our new work, and it can be done now in what ships with Zope 3.{1,2}. A two line boilerplate Python class now saves headaches later. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 web root

2006-02-17 Thread Jeff Shell
easier to do with Zope 3. I encourage everyone to do this. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Brainstorming about browser pages

2006-02-18 Thread Jeff Shell
, or whether some internals won't really be prepared until the rendering stage. It's so beautifully simple, and I (personally) have gotten terrific mileage out of following that pattern for many of our own views. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Two visions

2006-02-27 Thread Jeff Shell
caching, and so on. :) So again, if this would help us define that core *and make it usable in a variety of configurations*, then again I say 'yay'. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options

Re: [Zope3-dev] Two visions

2006-02-28 Thread Jeff Shell
sharable components sharable. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

[Zope3-dev] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Jeff Shell
2 and similar caliber desires for a Big App Server while not interfering with the more pure and simple concepts that makes Zope 3 appealing for developers like me. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope3-dev] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Jeff Shell
On 3/1/06, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Shell wrote: - Zope 3 CA: The Zope Component Architecture. Core services. Would include zope.publisher and most other current top level zope.* things. Usable as a library, as a publisher for other environments, perhaps

[Zope3-dev] Django, Catwalk, nice admins (was re: Visionaire! (All your problems, solved))

2006-03-01 Thread Jeff Shell
On 3/1/06, Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:02 PM, Jeff Shell wrote: [...] Django is killing us on automatic data (not system) administration pages. [...] I didn't follow this, probably because I don't know Django. Do you mean they excel in automatic data

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Jeff Shell
, and the possibilities that it opens up. The message then becomes Zope 3 CA and Zope 3 AS, and the individual packages that make them up, are the products available now from the Zope 3 group. The Zope Suite leverages that work into the established Zope 2 project. -- Jeff Shell

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-03-04 Thread Jeff Shell
interact. As I started thinking about that, I started wondering (a) how to get the pieces I needed and only the pieces I needed, (b) how/where to install them while I was developing, and (c) how to package them up if I was able to come up with anything successful. -- Jeff Shell

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Notice: zope.interface is now a separate project

2006-03-04 Thread Jeff Shell
combined with a tool like 'sqlalchemy'. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope Eggs

2006-03-06 Thread Jeff Shell
___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/eucci.group%40gmail.com -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: The vision thing

2006-03-06 Thread Jeff Shell
On 3/5/06, Max M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geoff Davis wrote: Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope: http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming

Re: Movies, audiences, wasted effort, was Re: [Zope3-dev] The vision thing

2006-03-06 Thread Jeff Shell
Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/eucci.group%40gmail.com -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] a new zcml directive?

2006-03-10 Thread Jeff Shell
argue that most situations requiring some sort of automation can be done by Plain Old Python Objects and Helpers and Plain Old Adapters and Utilities that can, wherever possible, be registered in short form adapter factory=blah. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev

Fwd: [Zope3-dev] a new zcml directive?

2006-03-13 Thread Jeff Shell
with ZCML being XML, or being a configuration language at all. It only has to do with the automation making things 'easy', which then makes them very very very hard to work with outside of ZCML because what you learn in one system does not apply to the other). -- Jeff Shell

Re: [Zope3-dev] what is ZCML?

2006-03-13 Thread Jeff Shell
. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] what is ZCML?

2006-03-13 Thread Jeff Shell
)`` functions in your Zope 2 Product's __init__.py files and change things? That's what I view ZCML as being - a better version of that. (Better in only that configuration and initialization can be executed separately from Python imports) -- Jeff Shell

Re: [Zope3-dev] what is ZCML?

2006-03-13 Thread Jeff Shell
and document management system in it. Let Python be the language. Let ZCML exist to do the final step of loading/registering registerable objects in a predictable manner, and to provide the few things that we don't want to pollute our (or others) Python code with, like security declarations. -- Jeff Shell

Dissecting NamedTemplate (was Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: a new zcml directive?)

2006-03-15 Thread Jeff Shell
than the discriminator/handler stuff of ZCML). -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: a new zcml directive?

2006-03-15 Thread Jeff Shell
, I admit). -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: what is ZCML?

2006-03-15 Thread Jeff Shell
. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Coarse-grained reuse.

2006-03-15 Thread Jeff Shell
current form, this code can also be used by a view that responds to there being no auth system setup). -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Coarse-grained reuse.

2006-03-16 Thread Jeff Shell
On 3/16/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Shell wrote: I don't think there's anything wrong with custom Python code to set this up. It's programmatic, isn't it? A lot of it may be repetitive, and if that's the case, functions/methods can help. Are we all just so used

Re: [Zope3-dev] what is ZCML?

2006-03-16 Thread Jeff Shell
registration language, I'd also like there to be a 1 to 1 mapping of ZCML statement to Python code. Right now there is a mapping and while it may be reasonably straightforward, I personally am still lost in APIs (and it looks like Jeff Shell is too). This learning curve should be smaller. I

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: a plan for widgets?

2006-03-16 Thread Jeff Shell
On 3/16/06, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: snip * sources and terms are nice, but we should at least provide some basic sources and register some basic terms for them; that bit is completely missing in Zope 3

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: a plan for widgets?

2006-03-20 Thread Jeff Shell
such a revision in the future. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: a plan for widgets?

2006-03-20 Thread Jeff Shell
On 3/17/06, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Shell wrote: By the way, isn't it pretty easy to provide straight up values anyways for those quick drop-down situations? snip Python example You're missing the point -- the vocabulary is *not* software, and Python is *completely

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: a plan for widgets?

2006-03-20 Thread Jeff Shell
beautiful new language you want it to be. But it's got *severe* problems right now. And the just about anything doable in ZCML can be done in Python line does not work. I have scars to prove it. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub

[Zope3-dev] ZCML, Paths, and the Things You Actually Want To Change At Configuration Time

2006-04-03 Thread Jeff Shell
of this at some point. browser:page class=SubFoo template=example1:foo.pt/ As far as I can tell, the 'Path' schema field is not much more than a string. For a 'configuration' language, that's rough. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope3-dev] Riddle: zope.interface versus zope.formlib

2006-08-25 Thread Jeff Shell
, and it feels like a waste of typing and time and effort to go through all the joys of ZCML registration and naming and thought just to use a particular Adapter class/factory once - especially if I'm doing the adaptation for just two fields out of, say, eight). -- Jeff Shell

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-28 Thread Jeff Shell
it's usable, but not required? -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: Re: [Zope3-dev] Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-28 Thread Jeff Shell
that wouldn't take half a year of lots of hard work? -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-28 Thread Jeff Shell
). It just feels so much more alive. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-29 Thread Jeff Shell
nightmare to me as a casual visitor. And I've found that for me, personally, it's hard to stay involved with or on top of a project in that situation, especially when I'm stressed out (like I have been the past few days). I look forward to seeing the re-design. -- Jeff Shell

Re: Re: [Zope3-dev] Grrr. zope.org wikis are evil.

2006-10-11 Thread Jeff Shell
that we need to replace the existing wikis. One other thing we'll need to consider is anti-spam capabilities. I'll agree with this agreement. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev

[Zope3-dev] Big Problem with FTP in Zope 3.3.0, seems to be the result of using `v = self.get(name, self); if v is self...` in a land where Proxy objects can kill identity comparison

2006-10-31 Thread Jeff Shell
can patch around it since we have a custom Read Directory adapter anyway. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

[Zope3-dev] Re: Big Problem with FTP in Zope 3.3.0, seems to be the result of using `v = self.get(name, self); if v is self...` in a land where Proxy objects can kill identity comparison

2006-10-31 Thread Jeff Shell
I have to follow this up. While I thought I was doing a good job reporting and testing the problem, I didn't do a hard enough control-group study. So, I started to investigate further: Even though I saw absolutely nothing about our ReadDirectory subclass that would cause the strange behavior, I

[Zope3-dev] Zope 3.3.0 - Why is the minimum generation for 'zope.app' 1? What's a good practice to update to generation 5 prior to my own evolver?

2006-11-03 Thread Jeff Shell
that we want to update as well. I'm trying to think of a better way to automate this situation for us so that development and deployment can be pretty transparent. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman

Re: Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.3.0 - Why is the minimum generation for 'zope.app' 1? What's a good practice to update to generation 5 prior to my own evolver?

2006-11-03 Thread Jeff Shell
I'll have to manually monkey with the order... :( I blame myself. I should have gotten more involved during the beta testing period for Zope 3.3, just to test it against our old databases... It's been a rough week. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing

Re: Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.3.0 - Why is the minimum generation for 'zope.app' 1? What's a good practice to update to generation 5 prior to my own evolver?

2006-11-06 Thread Jeff Shell
two months clean. On 11/3/06, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Shell wrote: On 11/3/06, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, what about calling the evolve() scripts from your generation? That would be reasonable IMHO. I'm trying to do that now. And now it seems

Re: [Zope3-dev] Bugday today

2006-11-16 Thread Jeff Shell
On 11/15/06, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just a quick reminder: Today is a bugday to help get Zope 3.3 virtually free of bugs (by handling bugs from the collector.) Any status report on this? The collector state(s) seem unchanged. -- Jeff Shell

Re: [Zope3-dev] Applying schema data on an object

2006-12-13 Thread Jeff Shell
)) # or pprint.pprint(list(pairs(contact.address, IStreetAddress))) that latter one is handy when debugging. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Do not serialize one attribute

2006-12-14 Thread Jeff Shell
__setstate__(self, state): # here is where you can re-instantiate 'unserializable' state['unserializable'] = unserializableReinstantiationCode() super(Example, self).__setstate__(state) -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing

Re: Re: [Zope3-dev] Do not serialize one attribute

2006-12-14 Thread Jeff Shell
On 12/14/06, Jeff Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/14/06, Florian Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a object, derived from Persistent when contain one attribute which is not serializable and that's not a problem for me, but Zope complains about that. Can I mark

Re: [Zope3-dev] RE: [SpringCleaning07]

2006-12-20 Thread Jeff Shell
product with some starter modules, classes, and templates: the equivalent of 'BoringProduct', in a sense, but with some skeleton parts (class names, etc) filled in instead of having to be manually replaced. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [SpringCleaning07]

2006-12-20 Thread Jeff Shell
that overhead:: strongFeatured?/strong tal:insert content=structure view/featuredFlag /br / 'view/featuredFlag' renders lots of fancy HTML on its own, so I don't need a span or div or anything right there. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3

[Zope3-dev] Re: future of fssync (was: RE: [SpringCleaning07])

2007-02-08 Thread Jeff Shell
This is a very delayed response, I'm sorry. I seldom get/make the time to check GMail these days. Eternally busy, for better or worse :). On 1/2/07, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 16:03, Jeff Shell wrote: zope.fssync It's too bad that this seems

Re: [Zope3-dev] SOAP support?

2007-02-08 Thread Jeff Shell
have additional traversal steps buried in a body that one could never type by hand!) - 100 for adding this kind of support to the core. It's way too much of a mess, and the Python SOAP libraries all seem to be in pretty bad shape. -- Jeff Shell soappublisher-0.0.0.tgz Description: GNU Zip

Re: [Zope3-dev] zc.resourcelibrary resources positioning in head

2007-02-21 Thread Jeff Shell
be dreamy. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.cachedescriptors outdated

2007-02-24 Thread Jeff Shell
it a useful decorator. But it wasn't written with decorators in mind. It was written for ``x = property(getX, setX, delX)``, or some combination thereof. -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3

Re: [Zope3-dev] LocationProxy+None

2007-08-14 Thread Jeff Shell
with a location proxy. singing_nun = LocationProxy(None, 'austria', 'jane') id(singing_nun) 7378424 singing_nun is located_none False sameProxiedObjects(singing_nun, located_none) True -- Jeff Shell ___ Zope3-dev mailing list