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Another common scheme is to use high-precision times in th names.
The current thread ID would also give you another source of variation.
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conjunction with the container (and perhaps the ContainerProxy that
wraps them).
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, and that
it will be months before 3.2 is out. AFAIK, the choice to replace
zasync with Twisted might not even *land* in 3.2, assuming we stick to
our time-based release schedule.
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I think that sources are different than initial value. I really don't
see any role that initial value has
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You can purchase them wherever fine Microsoft products are sold.
A nice utopian sentiment, that: ... making all his nowhere plans, for
nobody.
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Stephan Richter wrote:
On Thursday 13 October 2005 11:48, Tres Seaver wrote:
I have been trying to write a doctest for the tools stuff to show
Jürgen Kartnaller how[1], so he could write a test for the bug he found
in tool deletion[2].
While
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Stephan Richter wrote:
On Friday 11 November 2005 12:15, Tres Seaver wrote:
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Log message for revision 40048:
use a specific revision of the Zope 3 trunk for now until we have some
sort of tag available (e.g
-slightly faster, as it avoids a name lookup at
point-of-use. That optimization is the source of only downside of the
practice: it makes monkey-patching harder, because the original binding
gets copied.
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characters (but less than 998
characters, the [SMTP] limit on line length), the agent SHOULD send
the word as is and exceed the 78-character limit on line length.
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Thoughts? While these are technically features, I'd be happy to get
them in the 3.2 branch as well as the trunk. Neither are invasive, IMHO.
+1.
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with changing it?
Fixed on the 3.2 branch and the Zope3 trunk (Zope2 was already consistent).
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Jim Fulton wrote:
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Ob. note: the performance characteristics of such servers (including
twisted) are not well understood in the context of Zope, until some
brave soul actually rolls out a high
used by LDAP is a DSN. Perhaps the authorization system
could map the DSNs to internally-generated integer ID, which would be
the only value actually stored in grant records.
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, Christian Theune wrote that he had been using 'response.write'; I
think the note was in the Twisted Publisher thread about a week and a
half back.
CC'ing him to ensure he knows to respond today.
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them.
Heh, that would be tramline, or half of it, anyway. ;)
http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2005/11/11/0
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) is Oh, it's running - but where? How do I connect to
it?.
Zope tells you where to connect, but way too early in the output.
Let's fix the spew in PTS instead (which should be at BLATHER or DEBUG
level).
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Hanno Schlichting wrote:
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Heh, only with Plone, where PTS spews tons of useless gunk at INFO level.
Let's fix the spew in PTS instead (which should be at BLATHER or DEBUG
level).
Note, that I fixed this in PTS svn
in Zope
3?
The policy seems to be that the end user should *never* see the
traceback, unless she selects the '++skin++Debug' skin *and* the admin
configures inclusion of the 'zope.app.debug' package.
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On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 02:02:19PM +, Chris Withers wrote:
| Sidnei da Silva wrote:
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| My original
-to directives exist precisely because people
did not want to type the much more verbose equivalents which were
the original, cleaner spellings.
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It should be possible to tweak the template as it sits today, including
making it messy, and then clean it up by extending the view class later.
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standard way to make XML extensible. Unless we are going to quit
using XML, outlawing namespaces would be equivalent
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I'm not arguing (here) against refactoring the namespaces in which
core directives are declared. I'm arguing against the idea that
namespaces are bad in general.
I'm not arguing
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interface to the one it was written for. In this case, ideally one
would update the software with a more generic interface; but allowing
the configuration file to override the metadata is a workaround.
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packages tend to be dependencies for the others, as
well. The eventual plan is to have *all* the non-app Python packages
distributable as eggs, as well as moving out large chunks of stuff
currently under zope.app.
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python test.py --package=zope.app.component
A full test runs without problems.
A trunk checkout fails for me with the same traceback when run with that
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points for all our cool components if we make it hard to use a
comoponent without accepting either *all* or *none* of its configured
policy choices.
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that such developer-admins are the primary users of ZCML so far
is due to the small size of the Zope3 market to date.
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Nathan R. Yergler wrote:
During the Zope3 sprint following PyCon, Paul and I, with Jim's
guidance, began work on exploring how Zope can utilize eggs
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the vocabularies in another data file, and
merely have the high-level directive source it:
zope:vocabulary
name=philosophers
file=philosophers.csv
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 11:38:02AM -0500, Tres Seaver wrote:
zcml:ktupema_necro_halogo
eh?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=ktupema+necro+halogobtnG=Search
Your search - ktupema necro halogo - did not match any
just fixed the other eggification packages I had checked out
accordingly, including adding setup.cfg to the svn:ignore list.
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disagreement about
the value of the simplification.
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Jeff Shell wrote:
On 3/17/06, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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By the way, isn't it pretty easy to provide straight up values anyways
for those quick drop-down situations?
snip Python example
You're missing the point
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So *don't use ZCML*; use Python: there is literally nothing which can
be done in ZCML which cannot be done in Python. I wish that folks who
don't like / need ZCML would quit
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some flavors of IE were fussy about 'id'
attributes which were not valid according the HTML DTD's; I therefore
quit giving form fields an 'id' attribute long ago, just because I
couldn't keep it straight.
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capabilities I don't
know about. :)
Done.
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(footprint, performance) of those objects is probably
not something which most users are going to want, at least not without
carefully considering the implications.
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-- the factory
instances here function in place of the synthesize classes.
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Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
- Introducing new deprecation warnings in third-dot releases is
probably inappropriate:
When we have we done this?
2.9.1 just did it (see below).
- Deprecating an API without cleaning
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- Deprectaion of an older, stable alternative, *no matter how grotty,*
should go hand in hand with *lots* of confidence that the new favored
alternative really is superior, and by enough
(the new one is
O(1)-amortized, I think).
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for at least a release *before* we talk about deprecating
the old ones.
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it several times in tha past.
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. Since we already have had a beta release, 3.3 should
be considered in feature-freeze.
You could easily construe the omission of the 'time' field type as a
bug; adding it is near zero-risk, as well.
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into the upcoming 3.3 release?
Pretty
pretty please with sugar on top?
+1. I'm not even sure why you're asking. ;)
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Lennart Regebro wrote:
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- -1. The externals are just that, external to the Zope project.
Uhm. I have a hard time seeing Five and lib/python/zope as external to
Zope.
They are managed as separate
representation in *any* standard locale. The
dashes-with-leading-zeros should be the default (it is the stock ISO
date format).
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fixing most bugs, because it makes it easier for you (or
someone else) to fix that bug and others in that module.
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has plagued Zope 2, however, Michael Haubenwallner has pointed
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Zope 3, as releases
for revisions and drafts (I've done that as well for systems
with fewer, but more complex, documents).
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don't even ship the documents which label those
directives as 'dangeroous' (they are off in the 'test' subtree).
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Andreas Jung wrote:
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The appropriate thing here would be to remove the code which depends on
the GPL, and then ask the foundation's permission before readding
module code in its '__init__.py'.
'lib/python' shoulc not carry around such forks, if we can help it;
better svn:externals today, eggs tomorrow!
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complex, *and* it requires that you run Twisted. ClockServer
is dirt simple, robuts, and runs inside ZServer. It doesn't try to be
anything more than a way to trigger periodic requests.
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they don't like the name a method was given, and deprecate
it in favor of the better name. The ongoing cost of that deprecation
is then borne by everyone else.
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out to those who
are clients of the code.
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