I complained about it after the initial investment for a long time. After I buckled down and LEARNED it I cannot imagine going back to another program. I am continually learning faster and better ways to use it instead of finding more things to dislike.
I export to hlf and after the first time it has worked pretty well. Greg Greg McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC <http://www.livingwaterfp.com> 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 fax 850-937-1852 On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Bobby Gillett <bo...@livingwaterfp.com> wrote: > I learned AutoSPRINK from the day I started designing. I came in the > office after 10 yrs in the field., learned computers, AutoSPRINK and design > at the same time. I love AutoSPRINK. I have seen other programs and feel I > can be more thorough with this one right here. We design and stocklist. > > Bobby Gillett > *Living Water Fire Protection, LLC* > 1160 McKenzie Rd. > Cantonment, FL 32533 > (850) 937-1850 > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Travis Mack, SET <tm...@mfpdesign.com> > wrote: > >> David: >> >> That's the first I have heard of such issues...interesting. >> >> You must have the training class for AutoSprink. Trying to do it on your >> own is crazy. That is for sure. >> >> As far as coordination, there has been nothing better for me. I just >> take the other trades drawings and bring them right in. It has been no >> issue at all. I have even found some ways of doing it better and making it >> even easier. I xref the other trades in so it is less memory intensive. >> Plus, a simple new import and my working file is all up to date. It is a >> very slick process. >> >> I make the changes in real time during online coordination meetings. I >> usually have my model uploaded by the end of an online coordination meeting. >> >> I have to go clean up some of the other trades at at times. When they >> have 100000 objects that make up bolts, that is pretty memory intensive. >> But other than that, it is not a real issue. >> >> >> Travis Mack, SET >> MFP Design, LLC >> 2508 E Lodgepole Drive >> Gilbert, AZ 85298480-505-9271 >> fax: 866-430-6107email:tm...@mfpdesign.com >> http://www.mfpdesign.comhttps://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 >> Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign >> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack >> >> On 9/20/2016 10:06 AM, David M. Canham wrote: >> >> I tried to switch two times and found it be worst investment I ever made. >> Both time switched back to SprinkCad after a year. Lost a ton of money. >> Last time I was told that if I took the training class and used it for a >> year and did not live it they would refund the lease money (not the >> training). That never happened. Took way too long for coordination. I kept >> getting out of memory errors when importing other traded 3D files. They >> told me I had to break the other files up into smaller ones and create >> AutoSprink block. Being we get revised backgrounds several times a day this >> left my no time to draw. Their answer was to buy another 7500 dollar >> utilities to help automate that task on top off the 25,000 dollar program >> they were already selling me. Terrible tech support as well. This was s >> few years back so things may be better. Training facility was a dump with >> obsolete laptops that would not run all of features. No plotter to show how >> to plot(which turned out to be problematic ) >> Everything it does it seems I can now do with fewer steps. Really feel >> ripped off >> >> David M. Canham >> Fire Systems Solutions >> 15 Sayles Avenue >> Lincoln, RI 02865 >> Office 401-725-1089 >> Fax 401-725-1583 >> Cell 508-277-FIRE (3473) >> >> On Sep 20, 2016, at 11:25 AM, John Irwin <JIrwin@criticalsystemsolution >> s.com> wrote: >> >> Well their own tech team has been unable to explain to us how to “do it >> correctly” and has recommended buying a seat of Hydralist .. so .. >> >> >> >> *John Irwin* >> >> Manager – Fire Sprinkler Division >> >> >> *Critical System Solutions, LLC *Cell: 813.618.2781 >> >> Email: jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces >> @lists.firesprinkler.org <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] >> *On Behalf Of *Cliff Whitfield >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:20 AM >> *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> *Subject:* Re: sprinkler design programs >> >> >> >> Great program. Been on it for over 10 years. >> >> >> >> The listing works better than any other. If you think you need convert to >> hydra list for your fab shop, you just have to know how to do it >> correctly. Certainly not garbage but if you don't know the correct way >> it's like 'pushing a button' to run calcs, not the best thing to do. >> >> Cliff Whitfield, SET >> >> President >> >> Fire Design, Inc. >> >> 828-284-4772 >> >> >> >> cl...@fire-design.com >> >> www.fire-design.com >> >> >> On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:57 AM, John Irwin <JIrwin@criticalsystemsolution >> s.com> wrote: >> >> We’re about 90 days in to the process of changing over. It’s been tedious >> to say the least. I like the program but it’s very different from anything >> that’s AutoCAD based. Also make sure your fabricator is either set up to >> price from AutoSPRINK or they are willing to price from a PDF stocklist. >> AutoSPRINK’ s HLF conversion is garbage. >> >> >> >> Also plan on investing in the training courses. >> >> >> >> I don’t think we will go back to HydraCAD but there have been numerous >> times during changing over that I have considered pulling the plug. Having >> said that, I did talk to many, many users before we purchased and the >> general consensus was that the end justified the means. >> >> >> >> *John Irwin* >> >> Manager – Fire Sprinkler Division >> >> >> *Critical System Solutions, LLC *Cell: 813.618.2781 >> >> Email: jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces >> @lists.firesprinkler.org <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] >> *On Behalf Of *Rocci Cetani 3 >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:52 AM >> *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> *Subject:* sprinkler design programs >> >> >> >> Anyone on the forum use AutoSPRINK? I thinking about switching over and >> would like some user input. >> >> >> >> Thank you!! >> >> >> >> *Rocci Cetani III, **CET* >> >> *Designer* >> >> *Water-Based Fire Protections Systems Layout, Nicet Level III* >> >> >> >> *Northern California Fire Protection Services Inc.* >> >> 16840 Joleen Way Bldg. 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