Just observe the expectancy and let it go?  --ED



--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote:
>
> Good Morning Dave P,
>
> Let me explain why "gong" or timer or any external devices are not
> recommended for serious Chan practitioners.
>
> Because, when there is external dependency, our mind will be anxious
in
> waiting for that "gong".

> It could be constantly asking itself, "where
> is the gong? when is it going to gong? Isn't it time yet? Haven't I
> sit enough time yet?, etc. etc."
> J




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