Re: [gentoo-user] How does Portage prioritze emerges in emerge world?
Zac Medico schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: This sounds great, but what about the kernel I'm booted into, against which the module will *not* be compiled, if I have to reboot before actually configuring/compiling/installing the new kernel? You can get pretty close to your desired behavior (merge kernel last) if you simple mask kernel package versions greater than the one that is currently installed. mkdir -p /etc/portage echo sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r2 /etc/portage/package.mask That way, portage will not attempt to upgrade it until you tell it that you are ready, by removing the mask. And yeah, if USE=symlink causes problems, don't use it (in my suggested scenario above it might be useful though). So the ultimate conclusion is that I can either 1) disable the symlink USE flag and manage the redirect manually, which would enable me to download any kernel at any time without concern for whether a kernel module was upgrading in the same operation; or 2) manually mask kernels, which would enable me to upgrade any kernel modules at any time but force me to manually oversee the availability of kernel upgrades and manually enable them (and re-disable them following said upgrade). I guess I'll go for option 1, but the long and the short of it is that complete automation is unavailable and my only choice is what I prefer to manage manually. OK, then. sigh Thanks. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Home Network Printing
Mick schreef: Richard Fish wrote: On 11/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running cups? And if so, post the output of: grep -v ^# /etc/cups/cupsd.conf | grep -v ^$ for both systems. Thanks Richard, this is what I get from box 1 (this is the client): = snip Order Deny,Allow Deny From All Allow From 127.0.0.1 snip Allow From 127.0.0.1 /Location = This is what I get from host 2 (the server): = snip Order Deny,Allow Deny From All Allow From 127.0.0.1 Allow From 192.168.0.2 /Location Location /printers Order Deny,Allow Deny From All Allow From 127.0.0.1 Allow From 192.168.0.2 snip Any wrong entries? What I see is: I assume the printer is connected to the server--- but the server only allows connections from localhost (itself), and 192.168.0.2. If 192.168.0.2 is not the network IP address of the client (host 1), then the connection is denied. If the printer is connected to host 1... well, that only allows connections from localhost (itself). Connections from everywhere else are refused. So what I would suggest is that the server allow connections from the network as a whole, or the specific network IPs of the various networked clients. According to the well-commented cupsd.conf file: # Allow: allows access from the specified hostname, domain, IP address, # network, or interface. # # Deny: denies access from the specified hostname, domain, IP address, # network, or interface. # # Both Allow and Deny accept the following notations for addresses: # # All # None # *.domain.com # .domain.com # host.domain.com # nnn.* # nnn.nnn.* # nnn.nnn.nnn.* # nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn # nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn/mm # nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn/mmm.mmm.mmm.mmm # @LOCAL # @IF(name) # # The host and domain address require that you enable hostname lookups # with HostNameLookups On above. # # The @LOCAL address allows or denies from all non point-to-point # interfaces. For example, if you have a LAN and a dial-up link, # @LOCAL could allow connections from the LAN but not from the dial-up # link. Similarly, the @IF(name) address allows or denies from the # named network interface, e.g. @IF(eth0) under Linux. Interfaces are # refreshed automatically (no more than once every 60 seconds), so # they can be used on dynamically-configured interfaces, e.g. PPP, # 802.11, etc. # So if you have more than one machine on the network, you might consider changing the Allow From statements to read something like Allow From 192.168.0.* (assuming that your network mask is 192.168.0. , which it may not be). Modify for your actual network configuration. Sorry, I use Samba to connect to the network printer, as it's connected to a Windows box, so I can't help much more. Hope this is helpful though. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge
Mick schreef: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:55:47 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:25:07 - Michael Kintzios | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Which USE flag will make that +xterm_clipboard | | | | This is a dependency flag which I guess can be flipped by first | | emerging x11-apps/xclipboard. | | Er. No. | | Go on, tell us more. Package source build options must never be controlled by stuff that is installed. Basic policy issue. OK, then we're back to the OP question: how does one control the xterm_clipboard flag? As said (several times)-- by enabling the vim-with-x USE flag. /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc:app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Link console vim against X11 libraries to *enable title and clipboard features* in xterm Enabling the USE flag enables the ./configure option. If dependencies are needed to satisfy the option, they will be installed automatically before the package itself emerges. *This is what USE flags do*-- they enable or disable optional support for stuff, enabling you to customize your system and its packages. So if I don't need the clipboard features of vim, I don't have to have them, but if you do, you can. Voila! It's Gentoo!! :-) . Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing old version of a package
Leandro Melo de Sales schreef: Hi folks, Recently I installed mysql using emerge mysql, but the version that was installed is 4.1.14, but I'd like to install the last available version of the 4.0 release. How can I do this? dev-db/mysql Available versions: 3.23.58-r1 4.0.25-r2 ~4.0.26 4.1.14 ~4.1.15 ~4.1.15-r1 *4.1.15-r30 ~5.0.15 ~5.0.16-r3 *5.0.16-r30 Installed: none Homepage:http://www.mysql.com/ Description: A fast, multi-threaded, multi-user SQL database server So I guess you want 4.0.26? Well, that's unstable, and the fact that you just installed 4.1.14 suggests that your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS setting in /etc/make.conf is set to stable (assuming x86 arch). The best way to solve this would be by using a mixture of settings in /etc/portage/package.mask and /etc/portage/package.keywords: Assuming that the directory /etc/portage exists already (create it if not): (as root) echo =dev-db/mysql-4.1.14 /etc/portage/package.mask to mask all versions of mysql greater than or equal to 4.1.14 and echo dev-db/mysql ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords to unmask the unstable versions below the masked version (thus 4.0.26). or you could unmask the specific version using echo =dev-dv/mysql-4.0.26 ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords but be warned that this will not enable you to upgrade if 4.0.26 is revised (4.0.26-r1) or upgraded (4.0.27), as those will still be masked by the ~arch keword, as opposed to the previous command, which unmasks all future unstable versions below 4.1.14. If you use a different arch, change the ~x86 to your correct arch (assuming that the version of mysql you want is available for that arch; if it is not, adapt the above commands to the available versions that you want to mask and unmask. Then an emerge -uav world should come up with a [UD] for mysql (the upgrade is a downgrade), and whatever else might need to be updated on your system; if you don't want to emerge the other upgrades, just do an emerge -uav mysql (but that will put mysql in your world file if it was previously installed as a dependency of something else, and you may or may not want mysql in your world file. But that's your choice). Hope this helps. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package conflicts
Leandro Melo de Sales schreef: Hi folks, I'm trying to make a world update, but I got the following: # emerge -uD world Calculating world dependencies ...done! !!! Error: the =kde-base/kcheckpass-3.4* package conflicts with another package. !!!both can't be installed on the same system together. !!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers. How can I solve this? Leandro. Do as instructed: run emerge -upD world. The blocked package will be shown, as well as the package blocking it at the beginning of the output. The normal solution is to unmerge the blocking package so that the blocked package can emerge, but if you are unsure if you want to do that, or what effect it will have, then post the message as to what is blocking kcheckpass here and we'll see what's what. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
Dale schreef: LOL It helped a little bit, but not much. swifty / # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 3564108 3505584 58524 99% / udev12738880127308 1% /dev /dev/hda148312 37412 10900 78% /boot none 127388 0127388 0% /dev/shm swifty / # Any more ideas? I would hate to have to remove KDE from that thing. OK, ideas 1 (Traditional): delete the contents of /usr/portage/distfiles. These are the downloaded tarballs of the programs you have previously installed. Since they are already installed, the tarballs are no longer needed unless you reinstall the same program, soeleting these files only means that if you want to reinstall the same version of the same program, you'd have to download the tarball again. However, since you're on dialup, this might be a problem for you. So I would suggest that you burn any tarballs you consider 'precious' or difficult to acquire to CD or DVD (do you have a CD or DVD burner?) and *then* delete the contents of /usr/portage/distfiles. If you need to reinstall something that's difficult to download, you can pop the item back into /distfiles/ from the backup. I commonly do this for the Neverwinter Nights data tarball, which is 1GB of tarball, and I not only don't really want to be downloading that again (even on my 8Mbit ADSL line) when I want to reinstall NWN, but I don't need a gig of space being eaten on my / partiton either. The file doesn't change, so it's safe enough. 2 (Traditional, little-known): Check /var/tmp/portage. There is a directory for every compile you've done, and normally (when the compile completes successfully) the temp compilation files are replaced by a tiny .keep file. If the compile fails, however, the compilation files remain, taking up space-- sometimes a lot of space. Find the directories that take up more than a few KB and delete them. The program isn't installed anyway (since the compilation failed), so no harm done. 3 (Tough Love): You don't want to get rid of KDE, but there's a good chance you don't need all of KDE-- you might consider trimming it. This is the gigantic benefit of the split ebuilds; you don't have to have *all* of KDE, just the parts you need. You perhaps installed KOffice-- but do you actually need the spreadsheet and the presentation whatever? Uninstall KOffice and reinstall just KWord. Do you need the accessibility functions?The educational programs? The PIM, toys, and webdev programs? Etc, etc. If you have kde-meta installed, you might want to consider unmerging that, re-emerging just the split ebuilds for the KDE programs you use, then emerge depclean-ing the rest. 4. (Tough Love 1a): Do the above and switch to a 'lighter' WM-- you can perfectly well use KDE applications while using... oh, IceWM or Openbox or Fvwm-Crystal. I personally don't like KDE or most of its programs, but there are a few KDE programs I do use under Fvwm-Crystal (Krusader, K3b, KView). While of course this means I must have kdelibs, kdebase, and QT installed (and the Control Center to manage the KDE backend quickly for those few times its necessary), I don't *use* Konqueror, so I don't need it, and I don't have to have a gigantic KDE backend installed for no purpose (on my system). Using -kde in your USE flags can often eliminate some cruft when installing such programs (because I don't use the KDE backend for the applications, I don't need the KDE setup tool for K3b, or the linkages that optional KDE support creates when installing Krusader). Think about it. 5 (Tough Love 2): Consider not keeping every d*mn thing on your computer's drive all the time. Back lesser-used personal data files off the disk (twice, if you're thorough) and *delete them from the disk*. If you need the file, copy it back from the CD-- or use it from the CD, if it's like a movie or something. The originals don't have to be sitting there taking up space just because. And you should back up anyway (it's good policy). 6 (External Tools): Consider emerging/using /kgraphspace/ (if you must have a KDE application), or /xdiskusage/ to see what is actually taking up the space. Once you have located what directories contain files that are taking up too much space, you can determine what to do with them (delete, back up, whatever). Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?
Dale schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: 3 (Tough Love): You don't want to get rid of KDE, but there's a good chance you don't need all of KDE-- you might consider trimming it. I plan to let my mom use it if I move so I hope I can keep it all. Now, see, that's where you lose me because your mom *may* use the computer if you move, you want to keep every possibility of KDE available for her? What is your mother actually likely to use the computer for, if she in fact does use it (which you don't even know if she will)? If she's never heard of an MP3, and isn't likely to download any, she doesn't *need* amaroK/juK/noatun (kdemultimedia-meta), no matter how nice it is. Kscd (for audio CDs) will be fine. If she doesn't have any DVDs or download films, (k)mplayer and xine and its ilk are a waste of space. Is she really likely to change her wallpaper or window decoration a lot (or ever)? If not, kde-artwork is pretty pointless. Is she likely to administer users or create cron jobs? No? So much for kdeadmin-meta. Has she a digital camera or video camera? A fax? Does she edit graphics files? Take screenshots of her desktop? No? Well then The Gimp and kdegrapics-meta doesn't have to be there either. Does she do a lot of document editing? Of MSWord documents? Does she really need OO.o, or even KWord for this? Might abiword not be sufficient, or even kedit or kate? You see where I'm going with this. I admit that I'm a bit hot on this issue; my bf's mother was recently forced to accept a computer by her other son (hand-me-down). She does not know anything about computers, and in fact doesn't want this one (but everyone is figuring that she needs one, and once she gets used to it and sees the capabilities, she'll love it. I'm not so sure myself, but it could go that way, of course). At her recent birthday party, she was complaining that all of her friends and family (who are experienced, average users) were giving her advice like you need to get cable internet, and that sort of thing-- while she's trying to master Windows Solitaire *in order to* *learn how to use the mouse*. We have a printer (hand-me-down) to give her, but what's the rush when she doesn't know what a text file (or a *.doc file) is, or what programs are needed to open or view them-- in fact, she doesn't have any text documents-- much less a need to print said non-existent documents (which if needed she could create in Notepad just as well as OO.o Writer, and probably easier). I'm also hot on this issue because this was always my major complaint about Windows. Microsoft, like any company, wants to create a positive experience for the users of their product, so that the user will continue to buy their product. That's normal. What isn't normal, imo, is their design philosophy-- that the only (or most successful) way to ensure a positive user experience is to control the user's environment so severely that it only encompasses those areas that Microsoft is guaranteed to deliver a positive experience in. So MSOffice saves files in a proprietary format that MSOffice reads best. Optimization of webpages created in Frontpage (free with MSOffice) display perfectly in IE, and poorly in Mozilla. *.wmv files are beneficial to use due to the compression, but are hard to play in media players that are not WMP. And the list goes on-- though I'm still not sure why the \My * folders (Documents, Media, Music, etc) are placed on the C:\ drive by default when the most common way to fix Windows is to reformat and reinstall (thereby deleting your C:\My * files). The reason that I will not use Windows is that *the ability to control* *my environment is an essential part of a positive user experience* for me. Therefore I must object to your efforts to create a positive user experience for your mother by controlling her environment excessively. This position is supported by the fact that you *cannot* provide every single bell-and-whistle available-- you simply don't have the disk space. So for you, if you want to encourage your mother (and the greatest encouragement is a positive user experience), the best way to do that is to customize the PC to her actual needs, rather than trying to cover every possible eventuality of what you *think* she *might* want *someday*. I'd say, strip the system down to the bare minimum of what she's likely to need daily (and what the system can reasonably support to run quickly, since a slow computer is not part of a positive user experience), and let her get comfortable with that-- if she then expands her horizons and needs more functionality, she can ask you (mother-son bonding, an added benefit), or she can learn about Gentoo at her own pace and have the thrill of accomplishment just like you've had. Just my 5 Euros, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problems emergeing (through winxp shared connection)
Nacho schreef: Hi, I'm trying to emerge kde-meta, but i get stuck here (the error reproduces with emerge kde-meta): -- gentoo ~ # emerge kde-meta Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 278) dev-libs/glib-2.6.3 to / Resuming download... Downloading http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 --12:15:45-- http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2' Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org... 64.50.238.52, 64.50.236.52, 216.165.129.135, ... Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org[64.50.238.52]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found The file is already fully retrieved; nothing to do. Resuming download... Downloading http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 --12:15:46-- http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2' Resolving distro.ibiblio.org... 152.2.210.109 Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org[152.2.210.109]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found The file is already fully retrieved; nothing to do. Resuming download... Downloading ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.6/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 --12:15:47-- ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.6/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.gtk.org... 128.32.112.248 Connecting to ftp.gtk.org[128.32.112.248]:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Exiting on signal 2 - (I abort manually because it hangs up) I'm acceding Inet through a winxp shared connection (w/nat) (NOT a proxy, so http_proxy is unset), but there wasn't any problem with other emergeings or apps. (for example, i can ping, navigate, and emerge other packages too) what can i do? When i look at /usr/portage/distfiles there is a glib-2.6.3.ebuild so, why is emerge trying to download it? Sorry I don't know why your download is all borked (try changing mirrors)-- but I can tell you that 1). Portage is not trying to download an ebuild when you're actually emerging a program; it's trying to download the source tarball for that program in order to compile it; 2) Any ebuild should not be found in /usr/portage/distfiles-- it should be found in /usr/portage/cag-egory/package_name. What you find in /usr/portage/distfiles are the tarballs containing the downloaded source code. So if you've put an ebuild in /usr/portage/distfiles, get rid of it. It has no business being in that particular folder. is there a manual way to install this package and in general any package that can`t be emerged traditionally? Yes, download the source code tarball manually (in this case, glib-2.6.3.tar.bz2), and place it in /usr/portage/distfiles. Portage won't try to download the tarball if it finds that its already been downloaded. Hope this helps somewhat, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] straggling with paper size
Joseph schreef:
Please excuse me for interrupting when I know nothing about this issue
at all, but:
I keep noticing that latex seems to supercede divps
Sql-Ledger is using latex forms to generate invoices. So to
my understanding the program will be using dvips to convert
latex to postscript and send it directly to printer, am I
right?
looking at the configuration file in sql-ledger it is looking
for: latex, dvips or pdflatex, but making any changes to dvips
makes no difference.
if ($self-{format} eq 'postscript') { system(latex
--interaction=nonstopmode $self-{tmpfile} $self-{tmpfile}.err);
$self-error($self-cleanup) if ($?);
$self-{tmpfile} =~ s/tex$/dvi/;
system(dvips $self-{tmpfile} -o -q /dev/null);
$self-error($self-cleanup.dvips : $!) if ($?); $self-{tmpfile}
=~ s/dvi$/ps/; } if ($self-{format} eq 'pdf') { system(pdflatex
--interaction=nonstopmode $self-{tmpfile} $self-{tmpfile}.err);
$self-error($self-cleanup) if ($?); $self-{tmpfile} =~
s/tex$/pdf/; }
So it seems to me that rather than adjusting the configuration of divps,
we (meaning you, of course) should at least *look* at the
configuration of latex-- what paper size is /it/ set to??
HTH,
Holly
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] straggling with paper size
Joseph schreef: SOLVED, SOLVED! Believe me or not, I'm not sure what I did. Don't care (since I don't know anything about this anyway) ;-) ; I'm just happy for you. Congratulations Persistence pays (as does restarting a server or two, apparently). :-D Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I force an unmerge? [SOLVED]
Daevid Vincent schreef: Well, it doesn't actually 'solve' the original question, but I did figure out why superkaramba kept showing up. emerge -Davut world revealed several plugins related to karamba. So unmerging ALL of them, finally made the block go away. The obnoxious part was that NOT ALL OF THEM showed up in the list each time. No, of course not-- emerge -uaDvt world is only going to show those packages that actually have an update available (that's the point of -uD, after all). I had to keep issuing that command, unmerge the one or two that showed up, repeat cycle until they were all gone (and there were like 10 all together). Lame. Sounds like a short-coming of emerge/portage and dependencies. Don't blame Portage because you didn't do an emerge depclean -p to show packages that formerly depended on an emerged package (in this case karamba) that had been now uninstalled, or an equery depends (super)karamba to see what karamba plugins you had installed. Heck, you could have even done an eix karamba to see which of the various plugins you had actually installed and then just run an emerge -C(av) plugin1 plugin2 etc. But of course these are (mostly) additional tools, rather than Portage, since this kind of cleanup is not really what Portage is designed to do /per se/ -- and I don't necessarily agree that it /should/ do this kind of cleanup. This whole event is relatively rare (a previously free package being included into a major package), and an event of of this sort is significant enough that it should be manually monitored by the admin, rather than just handled automatically. It's really not a flaw that you have to find your karamba plugins and unmerge them, then replace them with the new, updated plugins yourself after kde is updated. You are the admin. You are supposed to know the status of your system, and I think Portage behaves quite correctly in going out of its way to make you very aware of changes in status like this, in the event that you might otherwise miss them. Let's face it-- if Portage had just updated superkaramba because you unmerged the previous version, without saying another word, your plugins would be _/broken/_ when you logged into the new KDE (because they were designed for the old loose version), you'd be P.O.'d and blaming Portage for _/that/_ (updating without 'fixing' your plugins-- assuming you even knew what was wrong, which you might very well not; it's not like /that/ hasn't happened to all of us one time or another). Almost all of the time if Portage seems not to work, it's because the user is asking it to do something it doesn't do, or phrasing their query incorrectly. I'm not saying that to disrespect you, it's really the truth. Portage is a very complex tool, and in fact works very well, as long as one knows how to use it. But since Portage does in fact know more about the Portage tree than you do (that's its job), knowing how to use it sometimes involves trusting it over yourself, and what you (generic you) /think/ you know. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problems in world file?
Ernie Schroder schreef: Calculating world dependencies !!! Problems have been detected with your world file !!! Please run emaint --check world I checked for updates to world while I was updating KDE to 3.5 and got the above message. Should I worry yet? Let's see... you expect one instance of Portage to give reliable output while another instance of Portage is updating the relevant data that the instance you're looking at is trying to read ... no, I wouldn't worry just yet. I would worry if you got the same message after the emerge was complete, though. But I doubt you will. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problems in world file?
Willie Wong schreef: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 07:56:22PM +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Ernie Schroder schreef: Calculating world dependencies !!! Problems have been detected with your world file !!! Please run emaint --check world I checked for updates to world while I was updating KDE to 3.5 and got the above message. Should I worry yet? Let's see... you expect one instance of Portage to give reliable output while another instance of Portage is updating the relevant data that the instance you're looking at is trying to read Oh! That's what the OP meant... geez, my English parsing skill is a disgrace to my education. ;-p But that's gotta be some very unlucky timing issue to have the read and write of the world file collide, eh? Oh, I dunno-- what actually happens to the world file (in terms of ownership/process ownership and locking) at the time that an emerge that affects the world file is being performed? There are reasons that major Portage processes are not supposed to be carried out concurrently. It's true that while I'm upgrading KDE, I probably could emerge... oh, mutt... at the same time in another instance, but checking the entire Portage tree (as in emerge -ua** world) is just not recommended, since Portage can't really be expected to know which updates are really valid (because it's currently performing some of them in another instance, with which it can't communicate). I mean, you could all be quite right, and I wrong, but Istr I got this message when I did something similarly unwise, and after the emerge actually finished, there was nothing wrong anymore (because the left hand knew what the right hand had done). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-3.4 update: python error...
Jarry schreef: What does 'gcc-config -l' say? obelix ~ # gcc-config -l /usr/bin/gcc-config: line 632: /etc/env.d/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6: No such file or directory * /usr/bin/gcc-config: Profile does not exist or invalid setting for /etc/env.d/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp obelix ~ # Jarry What I see is that no gcc is selected-- as opposed to my output: gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 * [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp See that * after 3.4.4? That means that that's the one I'm using. I think what happened to you is that you didn't set a new gcc to be used, then removed the one that was being used (3.3.6). So now make doesn't know what to do. I find it hard to believe that any given packge actually requires a specific version of gcc in order to compile, unless something like the above has occurred. What I would suggest is that you actually set gcc-3.4.4 as the active compiler, using gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 then perhaps run a fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.6 to update the hardcoded paths, then try your emerge again. Good luck, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problems in world file?
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:33:58 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: There are reasons that major Portage processes are not supposed to be carried out concurrently. It's true that while I'm upgrading KDE, I probably could emerge... oh, mutt... at the same time in another instance, but checking the entire Portage tree (as in emerge -ua** world) is just not recommended, since Portage can't really be expected to know which updates are really valid (because it's currently performing some of them in another instance, with which it can't communicate). The emerge -u invocation wasn't actually emerging anything, so it won't write to world. Yes, got that, but it would be scanning the world file to determine what had updates available that had not been performed. If some of the updates were at the same moment being performed in another instance, that is not likely to confuse Portage as to whether an update to konqueror (for example) was available or not (if konqueror was at that moment being upgraded in the other console)? Emerging KDE only results in one write to world, at the end of the process. I suppose, if you're only emerging kde-meta (since all the sub-builds are dependencies that will not be added to your world file. If I'm upgrading the split ebuilds, though does that remain the case? I expect there is another cause unless the OP was incredibly unlucky or impatient. Well, it's less likely, but it does happen. I mean, you could all be quite right, and I wrong, but Istr I got this message when I did something similarly unwise, and after the emerge actually finished, there was nothing wrong anymore (because the left hand knew what the right hand had done). I've had this a few times, and each time it was because the ebuild for an installed package was no longer available. Also possible. Certainly there's nothing /wrong/ with running emaint --check world. I only wanted to point out that this error could also be a false positive. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with world update
Rafael Fernández López schreef: Hello, I am running a emerge -u world and there is a package (realplayer) that keeps failing the build due to an error in package retrieval. Well, give realplayer a try, and see if it is installed in any way: # equery list -p realplayer You'll see in a list if any version is installed. My first question is why is portage trying to emerge this package as I do not have it installed in the first place ( I had it once a while ago, then it was unmerged) and my second is how tell portage not to emerge the package. Just edit /etc/portage/package.mask (as root) and add this line: media-video/realplayer Save the changes and that's it. Great idea, Rafael, but that may break other updates, if any of them (like xmms, mplayer, xine, etc) use the real USE flag which is probably what's dragging in realplayer in the first place. As you later suggested, using the --verbose option is /always/ wise when doing an emerge -uD world (myself, I use emerge -uaDtv world), in order to get an idea of what USE flags are being enabled (or not), so that you have the opportunity to make changes and keep unwanted packages from being emerged as optional dependencies (or make sure that wanted packages are emerged as optional dependencies). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Optical mouse lights off on kernel 2.6.14 but works on kernel 2.4.30
Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales schreef: I had legacy /dev/psaux on. Besides, it doesn't explain why the lights go off even outside X. Perhaps I could try to disable this option and let /dev/input/mice be the sole device node for the mouse... OK, it's time then for the stupid questions: You said the mouse was new. Is it rechargeable? Is it fully charged, or are the batteries new? Is this perhaps a feature of the mouse (the light goes off when it thinks it's idle) or does it have some other 'quirk' that requires it to have specific conditions under which it works properly (non-reflective desk, no other nearby magnetic devices, etc)? Certainly my optical mouse needs a mousepad (a dull, non-reflective one-- it doesn't work at all on my white desk, for example, as it's not only white (a bit too reflective), but also an incompatible surface in some way (too rough, I think). And so on, and so on... HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox toolbar font size
Ryan Viljoen schreef: Hi all, Does anyone know how to change the application font sizes? What I mean by this is the font sizes used to display the menus in firefox, open office and other programs. I run fluxbox. Currently they are quite large and I would like to decrease them. Thanks Rav I take it you don't have GNOME installed (beyond the gtk libs needed to run Firefox)? Then try gtk-chtheme (emerge gtk-chtheme). This will allow you to change the settings for both the font name and size of the GTK2 fonts used on your system (it lets you change the theme too, but you probably don't care about that). Fixing that should fix the menu fonts and font sizes for the GTK applications you name. KDE apps pretty much need the KDE Control Center to do the same thing for KDE apps. Hope this helps. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with world update
Bill Roberts schreef: On 01:55 Wed 07 Dec, Holly Bostick wrote: Rafael Fernández López schreef: Hello, I am running a emerge -u world and there is a package (realplayer) that keeps failing the build due to an error in package retrieval. Great idea, Rafael, but that may break other updates, if any of them (like xmms, mplayer, xine, etc) use the real USE flag which is probably what's dragging in realplayer in the first place. I'm having exactly the same problem. The USE flag real is what is bringing realplayer in. In my case, I set it to add functionality to mplayer. When I remove it, no attempt is made to download realplayer. There are two issues: first, I've seen some discussion indicating that the real flag shouldn't bring in realplayer, just the libraries necessary to allow mplayer to play real media; Realplayer is proprietary software (just as *.rm* files are a proprietary media format). They are not open source, so the libraries cannot be brought in separately; they are attached to Realplayer itself. After realplayer is installed, then mPlayer can find the libraries and use them. That's why using the real USE flag brings in Realplayer. second, the download of realplayer is blocked by failure of ssl to recognize a certificate. Curiously, I can go to the site, download the files manually, and no certificate issue appears. Downloading the files didn't solve the problem for me, the ebuild didn't seem to recognize the downloaded files. Maybe I put them in the wrong place. The downloaded file should be placed in /usr/portage/distfiles. Perhaps you've downloaded the wrong file? I have Realplayer 10.0.6 installed, and the file in my /distfiles folder is RealPlayer-10.0.6.776-20050915.i586.rpm I was hoping waiting a few days would get the problem solved, but I see it's still there. I don't remember having any problems with the certificate, but simply downloading the file and placing it in /usr/portage/distfiles should allow the emerge to continue. Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] krecipes fails due to gcc library problem
Mick schreef: Hi All, This is a box I converted into the new gcc-3.4.4 following the long winded approach of re-emerging everything according to the guide. Neveretheless, I have now come up to this problem when I am trying to emerge krecipes: snip Any ideas how I could fix it? *Whenever* you see a message that contains the following output libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/libstdc++.la' the solution is to run fix_libtools_files.sh In your case, apparently some *.la files were not moved from your old GCC, so you'd want to run fix_libtools_files.sh 3.3.6 (the old version of GCC, which is always in the error, as you can see). Had you changed your CHOST (say from i386 to i686), the command would be the same, but with the --oldarch switch to indicate the old CHOST instead of the old GCC version. Then run your emerge again. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: krecipes fails due to gcc library problem
Dirk Heinrichs schreef: Am Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2005 07:59 schrieb ext Mick: I've tried it, but can't find 'fix_libtools_files.sh' on my machine! What do I need to emerge to get this script? There's a small typo, should be 'fix_libtool_files.sh'. Thanks, Dirk, you're right. Also: which fix_libtool_files.sh /sbin/fix_libtool_files.sh Meaning it's a root-only program (only root can run binaries in /sbin/), so make sure you're running the search as root; and equery belongs /sbin/fix_libtool_files.sh [ Searching for file(s) /sbin/fix_libtool_files.sh in *... ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1 (/sbin/fix_libtool_files.sh) It's part of gcc-3.4.4, so you should have it (as long as you spell it right, sorry again) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] K3b and CD copy
Dale schreef: Hi, I want to make a copy of my Gentoo install CD. I open K3b, with the Gentoo install CD in the drive, and go to tools and select copy CD. The box pops up but start is grayed out so I can not copy the CD. I only have one CD drive but it usually copies it to the tmp file then opens up for a blank CD then creates a copy. What's up with this? It used to work in the last version. Am I doing something wrong here? Thanks Dale :-) Ideas (since I don't happen to copy CDs using K3b, or anything else, for that matter) 1. Do you have K3b set to make an image first (as opposed to direct copying, since you only have one drive)? 2. Do you have enough room in the temp directory you've set for the tmp file to fit in? That seems the most likely reason it would be grayed out (lack of space since you only have the one drive and a tmp file must be created to make the copy). What version of K3b? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of gnome-vfs
Edwin Kapauni schreef: Why do mozilla-firefox and mozilla-thunderbird depend on gnome-base/gnome-vfs, even when they have --disable-gnomevfs --disable-gnomeui in their Configure arguments (about:buildconfig)? Shouldn't it be possible to really remove that dependency by configuration? We never use Gnome nor KDE and we'd really like to remove that stuff. And what are your USE flags for those packages? emerge -pv mozilla-firefox mozilla-thunderbird These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5 -canvas -debug *+gnome* -ipv6 +java -mozdevelop +mozsvg -xinerama +xprint 0 kB [ebuild R ] mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.7-r3 -debug *+gnome* -ipv6 +ldap -mozcalendar -moznoxft +truetype -xinerama +xprint 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB Runtime Dependencies mozilla-firefox-1.5 app-arch/unzip app-arch/zip dev-libs/expat | = dev-libs/glib - 2.8.2 | = dev-libs/libIDL - 0.8.0 | = media-libs/jpeg - 6b | = media-libs/libmng - 1.0.0 | = media-libs/libpng - 1.2.1 | = sys-libs/zlib - 1.1.4 | = www-client/mozilla-launcher - 1.42 | = www-client/mozilla-launcher - 1.39 | = x11-libs/gtk+ - 2.8.6 | = x11-libs/pango - 1.10.1 == gnome = gnome-base/gnome-vfs - 2.3.5 | mozsvg ! x11-base/xorg-x11 - 6.7.0-r2 | virtual/x11 | java virtual/jre As you see, the gnome USE flag is what enables gnome-vfs (as an *optional* dependency, based on the enabling or disabling of that flag), The same goes for Thunderbird. So try disabling the gnome USE flag-- you might want to do so globally (in /etc/make.conf), if you don't use GNOME at all, and then run an emerge -uaDNtv world to recompile all installed apps without GNOME support. Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?
Gerhard Hoogterp schreef:
On Friday 09 December 2005 23:20, Tom Smith wrote:
Gentoo is a source-based distribution. This means that the software
you receive comes in the form of source code. It's up to you to
install (which includes compiling) the software with your specific
preferences--this is what makes Gentoo what it is.
While this is true and one of the things that makes gentoo gentoo,
there are already binary packages in portage. mozilla-bin,
openoffice-bin. Mostly big packages which take some time to compile.
So the idea of having a pre-compiled KDE isn't that alien to the
world of gentoo..
Oh, phooey, Gerhard (sorry).
People, it's not like KDE just got huge yesterday or something.
There's a whole herd that has to manage the installation parameters of
KDE, version after verson, and that is no easy task... plus they had to
manage the migration to the split ebuilds, which was even more difficult
(and they did an outstanding job; it went quite smoothly overall, if you
think about it).
Do you think that these people wouldn't make their work easier if they
could, if making their work easier provided an overwhelming benefit to
Gentoo as a whole?
Does it never occur to you that there might be a *reason* that KDE is
not provided as a full binary package (in *addition* to the
compile-only, thank you very much, since some of us only use some KDE
programs and don't want the full-bloat KDE installed just to do so)?
After all, you can both compile or install the packages named above
(mozilla, firefox, thunderbird, OO.o). But not KDE.
Why, oh why? Why did KDE go to splitting the packages that make up the
DE, rather than making the DE even more monolithic somehow (if that is
possible)?
There is obviously some overriding benefit to modularity for the KDE
team (as for the X.org team, which is also migrating to a modular format
for their packge), and this benefit migrates down to Gentoo as a
source-based distro (as opposed to binary based distros like Mandriva or
FC, which seem much less likely to find an advantage from modular packages).
So take advantage of the benefit, instead of complaining. You need/want
all of KDE, but do you need/want all of it /now/?
What's wrong with emerging kdebase-meta to get a basic session, and
/then/ emerging whatever odds and ends you need from it, or -- perish
the thought-- emerging something small like IceWM first (you should have
a fallback WM anyway, in case KDE breaks), and then logging into /that/
and emerging kde-meta, if you must have every single part of KDE right
now, up to and including every pointless part that you are not going to
use until next month, if ever?
Both kdegames-meta and kdeedu-meta are dependencies of kde-meta.
Honestly, do you actually /need/ to be _/sure/_ that kjumpingcube and
kenolaba are installed before you log into your first session
(kdegames-meta dependencies)? Is logging into your session beyond
pointless if klatin is not installed (kdeedu-meta dependency)?
Apparently the KDE dev team doesn't think so, which is why they've made
it easier for /everybody/ to install a basic (and even relatively
full-featured) KDE session without having to wait for the massive number
of optional KDE packages to compile (don't forget, the maintainers of
any given binary distro have to compile all of this stuff too, to
provide the binary, and people on dial-up likely appreciate the cost
savings of smaller binaries to install).
And of course, it's a massive benefit to people who don't use all of KDE;
from people like me who use almost none, to people like my
mother-in-law, who --if she used Linux-- would likely only use the basic
session, Konq, KMail, and KOffice and maybe kpatience.
Figuring out what you actually need takes time, but you'd still save
time by emerging only that and skipping the rest. If you must have a
binary, then use the --buildpkg option to create one, back it up, and
make a nice KDE Packages disk for the future.
NAME
emerge - Command-line interface to the Portage system
--buildpkg (-b)
Tells emerge to build binary packages for all ebuilds
processed in addition to actually merging the packages. Useful for
maintainers or if you administrate multiple Gentoo Linux
systems (build once, emerge tbz2s everywhere). The package will
be created in the ${PKGDIR}/All directory. An
alternative for already-merged packages is to use quickpkg which creates a
tbz2 from the live filesystem.
Feel like a member of the dev team-- that's what they'd have to do to
provide such a disk themselves, so why shouldn't you do it for yourself
if you need it?
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/env.d help
Grant schreef: That doesn't seem to do it either. Firefox still crashes from Flash unless I put the export line in /usr/bin/firefox. Why don't you just alias it, then (until such time as you figure out what's going wrong and how to adjust)? In ~/.bashrc alias firefox=export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 firefox save, source ~/.bashrc in a term and you're done (when you run the command 'firefox' the alias will run, exporting the variable before running the binary). Shell aliases are extremely cool things, especially since I don't myself have time or interest in d**king around with stuff like this when I'm in the middle of something (trying to look something up on the Web, for example, on what turns out to be a Flash site). If there's a hack, implement it, and then d**k around with it when you have time and energy to concentrate, that's what I say. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] links w/o benefit of X
Willie Wong schreef: On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:07:07PM -0800, Penguin Lover maxim wexler squawked: But I notice in yahoo when I try to read my mail after logging into my account I'm bumped to a window that says my browser is not setup to go to that URL, Perhaps it checks for JavaScript? or browser ID string? I don't use yahoo, so I can't say. No, it's probably checking for the ability to go to an http*s*:// url (a secure site, which Yahoo!Mail passes through for authentication when logging you in. I just checked, and when you log in, you go (very quickly) through an https:// url, then back to the regular http:// Yahoo site. This occurs even if you use the standard login (as opposed to Secure). I just compiled links and went to Yahoo!Mail, and saw the same message, but using the click here link took me to my mailbox no problem. If that does not work for you, here are my USE flags: emerge -pv links These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] www-client/links-2.1_pre18 +X +directfb +fbcon +gpm -javascript +jpeg -livecd +png +ssl +svga +tiff +unicode 0 kB Apparently links does not support automatic redirection (it's a very simple browser, after all), though perhaps it does with javascript enabled-- but, no thanks. I notice, also that Ctrl-A, X, V have no effect but I can move between pages using Alt and the arrow keys. Is there some way to activate those dead keys without having to install all the usual X stuff. As for the dead keys: links --help links [options] URL Options are: a whole lotta stuff snipped Keys: ESC display menu ^Cquit ^Pscroll up ^Nscroll down [, ] scroll left, right up, down select link -, enter follow link -, z go back g go to url G go to url based on current url ^Ggo to url based on current link ^Rreload / search ? search back n find next N find previous = document info \ document source | HTTP header * toggle displaying of image links (text mode) d download s bookmarks q quit or close current window ^Xcut to clipboard ^Vpaste from clipboard ^Kcut line (in textarea) or text to the end (in field) ^Ucut all text before cursor ^Wautocomplete url Alt-1 .. Alt-9 switch virtual screens (svgalib and framebuffer) I don't know what you expect ^A to do, but ^X and ^V are already assigned to relatively standard functions (at least I associate ^V with paste; I don't cut much, so ^X means little to me, but yeah, cut sounds about right). Check the list above for the function that you expect ^A to perform, and then learn link's key combo for it. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gtk display
cucu ionut cristian schreef: hi all ! I have a problem reguarding my gtk aplications they cannot be started using sudo nmapfe(or any program for that matter) the error message is Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: i'm using the e17 windows manager, if it makes any differences Thanks! This occurs only with sudo? I had a similar problem, solved by adding the following to visudoers: # Uncomment to allow users in group wheel to export variables Defaults:%wheel !env_reset # Allow users in group users to export specific variables # Defaults:%users env_keep=TZ == Defaults:%users env_keep=DISPLAY There are probably other ways to solve this, but that works for me. Hope it helps you. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now
A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman schreef: It recognises my Nvida card [fx 5200] but when you get to the stage where the icons dissapear as stuff loads, when the last one goes the monitor shuts off. as is't booting from a cd there's no error log and nofb didn't help. Like I said some day Gentoo will get there, but right now it's not stable. The graphical installer is not the distribution. The fact that the installer doesn't work for you is not the same as Gentoo is not stable. The graphical installer is indeed not stable, but we all knew that (or we would have if we read the release notes). Is there some reason that you can't use the current CD to install in the traditional manner (without X), or with an ncurses interface (again, without X), or conversely use the previous install CD (that doesn't have a graphical installer), to install Gentoo? Also, you might check the forums and bugs.gentoo.org to see if this is a known problem (you seem to be not the first having signal loss from the install CD on this list) and if there is a workaround. Or you could just go on as you are doing and blow us off as unstable. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now
A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman schreef: As for insulting the developers I said I looked forward to when they had something I [a normal person] could use You know, it just occurs to me to question this often-heard assumption that non-geek=normal -- with geek being defined by these so-called normal people. Is it not normal to want to understand what you're doing when installing an OS? Is it normal to object (vociferously, usually) to having to read the instructions before attempting to perform a complex technical procedure? Is it normal to think that click a fancy button and everything just works is the way things are *supposed* to be, when dealing with a complex technical operation? I personally don't think so, but then again I'm a geek, apparently, and I don't know what normal is, anyway, since I'm apparently not. Not to be rude, but if I was normal, I suppose I would understand how one can be a normal person and severely disabled in the same paragraph, since these conditions either have no relationship to each other (in which case there was no need for the I'm disabled trump card), or contradict each other (in which case the speaker looks like a. person who smells of elderberries). But of course, I'm out of here; pointless flame-fests are not my idea of a fun Friday night. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] radeon and framebuffer
Aggelos schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: I myself have a 9800SE, and also use vesa-tng for fbsplash. Both fbsplash/framebuffer and fglrx work fine; aside from the fb console background, I can even play mplayer videos in the getty console, which is also a framebuffer operation as far as I know. I have heard that enabling the radeon framebuffer is a bad idea, though (it doesn't work well with the fglrx drivers). But stick to vesa or vesa-tng, and you should have no problems. I haven't, from 2.6.13 kernels up to my current (2.6.15-r7), and with fglrx versions from 8.8.whatever to my current 8.22.5. Could you tell me the options you are passing to the kernel at boot time (I am using grub) for the vesa-tng ? Sure, sorry it took so long to get back to you; I've been busy in RL. (from an old grub.conf backup; ignore the kernel version, as the options don't change-- I just change the title as I upgrade). Gentoo_current (2.6.12-gentoo-r10) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz ro quiet root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr:3,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=silent,fadein,theme:livecd-2005.1 CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 It's pretty much exactly the same as the example on the Wiki (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gensplash#GRUB_Example), except that with the upgrade of splashutils, I now need mtrr:3 so that the splash comes up in a timely fashion (there's an einfo in the ebuild about this iirc), and of course changed for my system specs. The only thing that gave me a problem is that I had to set [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my default resolution for vesa-tng in the kernel config itself; you're not supposed to /have/ to, but if I didn't, I got errors when using the livecd themes (no 8bpp pictures, which is correct, since the livecd themes don't have 8-bit pictures, but this meant that the drivers were for some reason defaulting to 8-bit if I didn't specify 32-bit in the kernel. Which according to another thread on this subject is not correct behaviour-- if I specify 32-bit in the grub kernel line, it's supposed to use that instead-- but that's what it did on my system anyway. Specifying CONFIG_FB_VESA_DEFAULT_MODE=[EMAIL PROTECTED] solved the issue, since I don't like the Emergence theme, which does have 8-bit pictures, so worked correctly in all cases). Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reasons for testing or stable of kde packages
Marco Calviani schreef: Hi list, i would like to have clarification regarding the policy of switching packages from testing to stable. Is this policy due to particular bugs in the packages? No. Gentoo's stable and testing refers to the /ebuilds/, not the packages. I'm not a dev, but from my experience, if upstream (the developers of a particular package) release the package, then it is considered to be 'stable' (insofar as it's releaseable, and Gentoo does not include betas or development versions in the Portage tree). However, the ebuild script that allows the package to compile on Gentoo may contain errors, so it must be tested. That is what ~ARCH is about; making sure the provided ebuild compiles the source of the application correctly and successfully with relationship to the rest of a Gentoo system. ~ARCH packages/ebuilds are normally tested for (30? 90?) days, after which time if no bugs are filed, they generally move into stable. It is hoped that users who use ~ARCH are willing to file or comment on bugs on bugs.gentoo.org (b.g.o). The system only works if everybody helps. If a package itself contains serious errors (fairly easily discerned from a filed bug whether the problem is the ebuild or the package), you'll see it getting hard-masked pretty darn quick (that's what hard-masking is for/about-- it generally means the package itself is broken), while we wait for upstream to fix whatever is wrong. While 'testing' is just that, and therefore not specifically 'stable', in practice testing usually is pretty stable (all problems I've had I've been able to overcome myself, despite not being a developer or any kind of programmer who understands deeply what's actually going on). However, sometimes testing does expose upstream bugs that cause the package to break (or break on your system), so ultimately, it's not safe (as in safe as houses), but it's not like it's usually risking your system stability in a major way (i.e., you can't boot, or the system fails to operate, etc.) HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reasons for testing or stable of kde packages
Marco Calviani schreef: Hi Holly, and thanks for your clear explanation, Hi list, i would like to have clarification regarding the policy of switching packages from testing to stable. Is this policy due to particular bugs in the packages? No. Gentoo's stable and testing refers to the /ebuilds/, not the packages. Well, that was my fault in explaining. i was referring to versions of a particular package ~ARCH packages/ebuilds are normally tested for (30? 90?) days, after which time if no bugs are filed, they generally move into stable. It is hoped that users who use ~ARCH are willing to file or comment on bugs on bugs.gentoo.org (b.g.o). The system only works if everybody helps. At the root of my question there was the need to understand why kde 3.5.1 packages are still testing even if there aren't critical bugs at bugs.gentoo.org (as far as i was able to find...). Possibly because KDE is a huge suite of interrelated packages, /all/ of which must be 'stable' (in ebuild terms) so that users who have expectations of what 'stable' means will be satisfied (especially for those who run ARCH and do not use ~ARCH packages). This may be why it takes a longer time for Gentoo to move all of those packages into ARCH; a single package is obviously easier to test than the many split ebuilds that KDE contains, especially when varied combinations are involved. I recognize that 'stable' users value... stability... over the latest and greatest, and that's fine. But it always annoys me somewhat when users then 'complain' about 'the latest and greatest' not being moved into stable in a timely (in their opinion) fashion. Either one wants guaranteed stability, or one is willing to possibly sacrifice some of that stability for new features or cool factor or whatever. The choice, like most things, Gentoo, is up to the user, and Gentoo users should always be aware that they need to explicitly choose and commit to their decision. Of course, that wouldn't be a reasonable position if one didn't trust the dev's judgement, but in fact, that's almost the first choice a Gentoo user needs to make; certainly about the status of the Portage tree, if one is not going to monitor or participate in the activities of the dev team (in this case, the KDE herd, I suppose). After all, if you think about it, the gentoo-*users* list is not really a logical place to seek answers as to why a specific arm of the development team has taken or not taken a specific action. Not that the dev list wants to hear anybody nagging them about this, mind you, but I would imagine that if any discussion is going on as to progress of migrating the ebuilds to stable, it would be there rather than here (so one could lurk and find out what was going on, if one cared to), or on an IRC channel (if one exists) or something like that. Possibly even on b.g.o., if someone has filed a bug to move KDE to stable (that happens), and a dev has responded to that bug with a reason why or why not, or with a we're doing it, buzz off! Gentoo is a very hands-on distro, and everyone can get involved to the extent that they're capable, and everyone is capable to some extent, because the extensive documentation enables one to know enough to do /something/ (write an ebuild, update an ebuild, file a bug, comment on a bug, etc). This is not some back-room, behind-closed-doors, we don't want to hear from you if you don't send a patch kind of dealie, so if you want to know the progress of the KDE herd in migrating KDE 3.5.x to stable, I'm sure it's possible to find out without a lot of difficulty. Just not necessarily from us, unless somebody who does monitor the KDE herd happens to be around (which is not a particularly efficient way of getting an answer to your question). :-) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse detected, but no /dev/mice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: hiya, I have two USB mice. Dmesg shows them being detected, but there is no /dev/mice nor /dev/mouse. Any suggestions? If you're using udev, the devices should be found in /dev/input/mice. At least that's where mine is. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to kernel update when executing emerge -u world?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Every time when I run emerge -u world, the kernel will be updated if it have some update. This is normal; you're asking for updates (-u), so Portage is offering you the available update you asked for. Why is this a problem? Are you running a different kernel? Not suspend2-sources, but something else and you simply don't want suspend2-sources present on your system anymore, or is there an issue with the specific version of suspend2-sources that's being offered, so the issue is that you don't want to upgrade? If the former (you used to use suspend2-sources, but you switched to another kernel variant like gentoo-sources or ck-sources, and you don't want to upgrade suspend2-sources anymore), the solution is to emerge -C (unmerge) the version of suspend2-sources you had installed (delete the source in /usr/src before unmerging to speed up the process). Then it won't be updatable, because it's no longer present (but since the source of the kernel variant you are using is still present, that will continue to be upgraded).. If the latter (you are still using suspend2-sources, but you don't want to upgrade it beyond a certain version), the solution is to mask the versions beyond what you want manually, using /etc/portage/package.mask: (not with quotes) =sys-kernel/suspend2-sources-2.6.15-r7 (since you're using -r6 and attempting to upgrade to -r8, this will mask everything including to and above the version beyond the one you're using). The downside of this is that you have to keep an eye on the package to see if the problem has been solved in order to get any further updates, as Portage will no longer tell you or offer you updates to this package. Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo USE flags
Goran � schreef: Hi! I have already asked this but I will ask again. I am looking for who could write me a list of USE flags to setup in make.conf, so anyone? I need desktop system with KDE and not GNOME, support for DVD and CD ripping and burning, playing DVDs and DivX movies, MP3. I will do programming and testing of Apache server, mail server, MySQL. Apologies in advance; this is likely to be a rather testy response. Normally I'm more patient and polite. The most likely reason that you haven't gotten the response you're looking for (though you did get a list of suggestions from Richard Fish, among others)-- or at least the reason that I didn't respond-- is because USE flags are really very relative to the programs you're installing, and without knowing that (which is, for us, /wy/ too much information, so we don't *want* to know), it's fairly impossible to give a complete list of the USE flags you specifically should use for the use that you specifically are going to put your system to. Furthermore, in the five days since the last response in your previous thread, you could have read /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc (not to mention http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml ) any number of times and figured this out for yourself-- which you have to do anyway (figure it out for yourself, I mean). It's your system. You are in control. That means you have to know what you're doing, and to know what you're doing, you have to know what you want-- specifically-- and how to make the system do what you specifically want it to do (which means read the docs provided to tell you how to make the system do what you want). Heck, the longest part of a Gentoo install for me is the two hours I spend reading these docs and setting up my USE flags (obviously, compiling things takes more time, but I don't have to sit there and pay attention for that). I mean, really, we just can't know what you need. Fine, you're not going to use GNOME but KDE, so I'm sure that you've figured by now that you need -gnome and +kde. What about GTK (or GTK2)? Are you going to use Firefox, Mozilla, or neither? Abiword? OpenOffice? /Evolution/? These are GTK applications (though not necessarily GNOME applications, with the exeption of Evolution), so they will need GTK support-- which they'll get automatically without reference to USE flags but what about their dependencies (which may need to be compiled +gtk or +gtk2, which may then cause the app to bug out if you've compiled the dependencies without such support, because you thought gtk=gnome and I don't want GNOME). Not to mention that some of these apps spawn USE flags of their own, and that may not always be what you want. Examples: Lots and lots of unaffiliated apps use web browser support. There are separate USE flags for firefox and mozilla, but in a few rare cases, the mozilla USE flag covers Firefox as well. If you plan to install Liferea (the RSS news reader) you'll need to know which one of those two browsers you're planning to use, because enabling both flags would mean that one of those browsers is going to be installed unnecessarily-- and they both take a pretty long time to compile. Are you going to upgrade/try out Xorg 7? If we don't know your video card, or whether you want all the wizbang possible (evdev, composite) or whether you do or don't have a joystick/gamepad, how are we supposed to tell you what you should put in VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES? You're going to do programming and testing of Apache server, mail server, MySQL. Which apache? 1 or 2? Which mail server? Just because you're testing an Apache server, does that mean that any install of subversion or CVS that you might perform must also be compiled with apache(1/2) support? Maybe you don't want that, so how are we supposed to say oh, just enable it globally? I could go on like this forever, but hopefully you get the point. The reason why there is a USE= line in /etc/make.conf, in addition to default USE flags being set by /usr/portage/profiles/use.default, in addition to possible USE flag modifications from /etc/portage/package.use, as well as fairly copious documentation about what each USE flag generally indicates, as well as a --verbose flag in Portage to allow you to see what USE flags are in use before compiling, is because it's *your* system; its customization *is up to you.* No one but you is in a position to know that you need java support for your web browser, but you don't need it for OpenOffice.org. We can't say, enable it globally, or disable it globally, because *we have no way of knowing what you need your system to be capable of* *when you sit down in front of it*. You say, DVD ripping-- I say, Ripping to what? Do you need xvid/quicktime/ogg/theora support when you rip these DVDs? Maybe you do, maybe you don't-- but I have no way of knowing that, because I don't know what you need the final files to be capable of; only you do.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo USE flags
Goran � schreef: Thanks! I didn't only understand something about per packages which you mentioned in your mail. USE flags can be (and of course, are) set globally in /etc/make.conf (and /usr/portage/profiles/use.defaults), but USE flags can also be enabled or disabled for a particular package only using /etc/portage/package.use. You might do this for a number of reasons: 1) Every USE flag does not apply to every package, and some local USE flags only apply to one specific package. It keeps your /etc/make.conf neater and easier to read if it only contains the really global USE flags. Some of us care about that kind of thing :-) . But the main reason you'd use /etc/portage/package.use is because 2) You have a globally-enabled (or -disabled) USE flag that you want to disable (or enable), for a particular package. Example (from my own config): USE=*-kde* -arts -eds -esd -apache -apache2 16bit 3dnow aalib acpi -apm audiofile bash-completion -berkdb bigger-fonts bitmap-fonts bmp bzip2 caps cairo cddb cdr curl dbus dga directfb dri dts dv dvd exif expat extrafilters fam fbcon ffmpeg firefox flac font-server gamin ggi gimpprint glut gtkhtml gnutls -gstreamer gstreamer10 guile hal iconv idn imagemagick inkjar inotify -ipv6 jack *java* jikes kdeenablefinal kdexdeltas lcms ldap libcaca libnotify lua maildir math mmx mng -mozilla mpi nas nfs nptl nptlonly offensive openexr -pam pcre pic portaudio povray *samba* scanner slang sndfile socks5 sqlite sse -sse2 svg svga tcltk tetex theora threads tiff toolbar truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb v4l wmf xml xprint Xaw3d v4l v4l2 xvid yv12 As you can hopefully see, the java and samba flags are enabled (globally), and the kde flag is disabled (globally). You can't see it here, but the default profile I'm using also disables the doc USE flag (which is extra documentation, not man pages and the like), as well as the symlink USE flag (which automatically re-targets the /usr/src/linux symlink when a new kernel source is installed. Now, the java USE flag is enabled globally, and it is a valid USE flag for OpenOffice, but I don't want it enabled for OpenOffice, because I don't need for OO.o to use Java, and it slows an already-slow application down. As for doc, well, I have Imagemagick installed, and it's very complex, so I want the extra documentation, but generally, I don't need it; --help and man pages are usually good enough. As for samba, I don't want Midnight Commander to have samba support, because if I'm using mc that extensively, my system is probably borked somehow (hey, I'm a GUI kinda girl, as great as mc is), or if somebody has compromised the system and has managed remote command-line access to mc, at least they can't just go right to the network shares. In either case, I want to limit access to network shares to try and minimize the ability to do damage to them. (Yes, I know it's not massively protective and perhaps not even effective, but at least I care enough to try-- and since Gentoo gives me the option, I took it ;-) .) As for kde, well I use it extremely rarely, but I want the OpenOffice to be correctly integrated with the environment if I do ever have to log into KDE rather than my preferred DE (KDE is my fallback DE of last X-resort, and it's much more likely that I'll need to print out a cv or something during a computer emergency that resulted in my having to use my last X-based fallback than that I'll have to read my mail-- that can wait, or I'll use webmail-- which is why you'll see that my fallback mail-client does not have kde support). So, in /etc/portage/package.use I have the following lines (among others): app-misc/mc 7zip -X -samba app-office/openoffice-bin kde -java media-gfx/imagemagick fpx inkjar plugin doc =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r7 symlink Thus, when I do an emerge involving those packages : emerge -pv openoffice-bin mc imagemagick mozilla-firefox kdebase-kioslaves sylpheed-claws =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r7 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r5 (additional packages to show use of the default settings) | cfg-update-1.8.0-r3 : Building checksum index... (takes a few seconds) done! These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-bin-2.0.2 USE=gnome -java 0 kB [ebuild R ] app-misc/mc-4.6.0-r14 USE=7zip gpm ncurses nls slang unicode -X -pam -samba 49 kB [ebuild R ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.2.6.0 USE=X bzip2 doc fpx jpeg lcms mpeg perl png tiff truetype wmf xml2 zlib -graphviz -gs -jbig -minimal -nocxx 0 kB [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1-r2 USE=gnome java xprint -debug -ipv6 -mozdevelop -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.1 USE=hal kdeenablefinal kdexdeltas ldap openexr samba -arts -debug -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] mail-client/sylpheed-claws-2.0.0 USE=clamav crypt dillo gnome ldap spamassassin spell ssl -doc -imap -ipv6 -kde -pda -xface 0 kB [ebuild R ]
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo USE flags
Goran Maksimović schreef: Hi! I said what will I do on my system and I value the answers of people who really answered what I have asked. Great, happy to hear it. Congratulations to our lucky winners, good luck in the future to everyone else, and can we please move on now? The 'discussion' would seem to be complete. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo USE flags
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:18:25 +0100, Goran Maksimović wrote: If you read my first post about USE flags I wanted some recommendations and not links to sites where USE flags are explained. Did you read the second paragraph of my post before replying to it? I think he read it, but didn't understand it... after all, anybody who would say something like Goran Maksimović schreef: I don't know why you think that if you don't fine tune your system clearly doesn't know you from around here (or anywhere else :-) ) -- even a little bit. I'd LOL if I wasn't having a 'thing' today where I just don't want to watch half the list (including me, actually) come out swinging on somebody who's missing the point, shall we say, since apparently none of our attempts to explain why what Goran wants us to do is not really possible are getting through. But hey, have a good time, y'all. It's way past my bedtime anyway. :-D Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: QT 4
Dmitry S. Makovey schreef: there are quite a few slotted packages in portage so you might bump into this every now and then (KDE is slotted AFAIR). Even easier-- so are kernel sources. Install a new one, and it's always going to be [ NS ], not [ U ] . Looking at how kernel sources are handled on the system seems to me to be the easiest entry point to understanding SLOTs. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing file systems
Hemmann, Volker Armin schreef: On Sunday 19 March 2006 13:04, Sumeet Pal Singh wrote: HI This mail is not directly related to gentoo. I have gentoo,ubuntu 5.10 on my system and using FC3 since it was released. I tried to install FC4 on my system by sharing the swap and /home partition between FC4 and ubuntu. The installation went well. I did not install KDE in FC4. snip I booted in as root and created a new user with UID and GID same as on ubuntu. Now I booted in GNOME and it was completely configured Moreover gaim started and signed me in to all my accounts!!! This was first time login... My question is that can sharing /home okay for a long run or will it lead to problems. snip as long as you are using the same software versions on both systems (at least the major version number should be the same) it should be ok. That's what I would have thought, too. But frankly, it seems too much maintenance to me, since as soon as the versions go out of sync, then you're likely to have problems that are difficult to track down. I have no problem with two users from different distros having their /home folder on the same partition (in fact, my Gentoo install and my SuSE install share a /home partition), but I wouldn't myself have the two users merged that way across two Linux distros. I admit I did do something similar when I had a massive multiboot (5 Linux distros, 2 Windows installs), for relatively easy compatibility with the shared Windows partitions, but even then, every user had their own /home folder, they just had the same UID and a shared GID (which I made the same on all related distros). But then again, I don't store things in my /home folder; I store them on their own partitions that are linked into my home folder, so it's not as if it's a space saver for me to have two separate distros using the same /home/username, and since I see it as a relatively dangerous pain-in-the-butt, I don't do it. /usr and the like is right out, obviously-- your libs will get creamed pretty quick doing something like that, unless they're /exactly/ the same across both distros, and that seems unlikely to me (or unlikely to last long, if you're lucky temporarily). But why are you asking here and not at the ubuntu or fc mailing lists? Good question. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lilypond version
Allan Spagnol Comar schreef: Hi, I don't know where should I post this kind of message, but I need to use lilypond as one of my working tools. I got stunned when I saw today that lilypond version available at portage tree is 2.0.3 the latest stable version is 2.6.5 and 2.0.3 is extreme old. Is there a reason that lilypond version is not up to date and should I build myself ( without portage ) if I want to used it ? eix lilypond * media-sound/lilypond Available versions: 2.0.3 ~2.2.4 ~2.2.6 ~2.4.2 ~2.5.2 2.7.9[2] ~2.7.27[2] Installed: none Homepage:http://lilypond.org/ Description: GNU Music Typesetter [1] /usr/local/portage [2] /usr/portage/local/layman/ecatmur So... still not up-to-date, /per se/, but there are more current versions in Portage (2.5.2), and development versions available in overlay, as well as on bugs.gentoo.org: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97574 They're just not the /stable/ (in terms of Portage) version, but they are available; you must be keyworded ARCH, so all you see is the last stable (as per Portage) version. You might consider keywording lilypond in /etc/portage/package.keywords to get the ~ARCH version (I'm ~x86, so don't know if the versions are the same/available for other ARCHes), or learning how to create a PORTDIR_OVERLAY (overlay directory tree). See /man portage/ for information on keywording a specific package; see http://gentoo-wiki.com/Portage_Overlay for information on overlay directories and a listing of sources (other than b.g.o) for 3rd party ebuilds (such as ecatmur's overlay, listed above). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge java syntax
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: I'm at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/tiger-faq.xml, which gives the syntax as: emerge =sun-jdk-1.5* but the pretend isn't working as I expect it to. localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # emerge -p =sun-jdk-1.5* These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sun-jdk-1.5* have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.06-r2 (masked by: package.mask) # [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Many things in the tree don't compile with 1.5 yet. # 1.5 defaults to -target 1.5, which makes downgrading to a 1.4/1.3 # impossible. See bug #69970 and bug 65937 for more information. # http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/tiger-faq.xml For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. This seems very clear. All ebuilds that could satisfy =sun-jdk-1.5* have been masked. For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. This means that the package is masked (not available for installation unless explicitly unmasked), for the reasons noted in the error. If you want it nonetheless, read man emerge to find out how to unmask the package so it will install. I can assure you that if you unmask it, it will install (I'm using it, but I don't compile much, if anything, against Java, so the issue is not an issue for me). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] autofs, supermount, submount... which is best for Gentoo?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Very informative, thanks. I think I'll go with submount. These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] sys-fs/submount-0.9-r2 159 kB Total size of downloads: 159 kB localhost ~ # emerge submount Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) sys-fs/submount-0.9-r2 to / snip 15:04:38 (64.11 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/submount-0.9.tar.gz' saved [75476/75476] md5 files ;-) submount-0.9-r2.ebuild md5 files ;-) files/digest-submount-0.9-r2 md5 src_uri ;-) submount-2.4-0.9.tar.gz md5 src_uri ;-) submount-0.9.tar.gz * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux sources. * If you are using KBUILD_OUTPUT, please set the environment var so that * it points to the necessary object directory so that it might find .config. !!! ERROR: sys-fs/submount-0.9-r2 failed. !!! Function linux-info_pkg_setup, Line 537, Exitcode 1 !!! Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. I'm not sure what's meant by the topmost build error, but as it's not too large, I included everything. What is meant is the last output right before ERROR:; in this case, it is * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux sources. This package compiles against the kernel, as you can see from * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux However, the kernel source that the /usr/src/linux symlink points to has not been configured using make (menu/x)config. Therefore there is no .config file that the package can examine to ensure that the kernel source in question has/will be built with the support that the package requires. You don't have to build or install this kernel source, but you do have to configure it (properly for the submount package) before you attempt to install the submount package. I'd think that the wiki entry will detail the necessary kernel settings. Hope this helps. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
JimD schreef:
I have been using Linux for a number of years and the one trick I
have never read how to do is something like:
sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords
Well this one I do with a set of revised command nicked from the list,
entered into ~/.bashrc, and requiring that
1) su is one of the commands that you are allowed to execute via sudo
2) you are exempted from needing to enter a password for 'sudo su':
addkey(){
sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.keywords
}
adduse(){
sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.use
}
addmask(){
sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.mask
}
addunmask(){
sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.unmask
}
The general idea being that a) sudo seems to be a bit weird; even though
it allows you to perform operations as if you are root, it doesn't do so
by pretending that you _are_ root, so you still couldn't write to the
/etc/portage/package.* files; b) su does pretend you are root, but su
alone only just re-logs you in, rather than actually allowing you to
execute a command-- unless you use the -c switch. su -c then says,
whatever follows this switch is a command that you should execute as
root. But of course, since echo $* (where $* stands for what I typed
after addkey) /etc/portage/package.* is a complex command,
containing spaces, the syntax of the command following sudo su -c needs
to be quoted.
Another one I always wanted to know if it is possible is:
sudo /var/log/foo.log
I'm sure it is, with a bit of creativity, though I honestly don't know
what your intention is in any case, since this looks to me like you're
logging the output of the sudo command to foo.log (but since there is no
output really to typing 'sudo', I have no idea what result you might
expect).
Anyway, hope this is to some degree helpful; what you most likely want
to do is read up on bash scripting to understand how to chain the
commands that do what you want to get done with sudo. Depending on your
goals, you might also consider aliasing (alias etc-update=sudo
etc-update), and fine-tuning your visudo to allow you to run specific
apps with sudo, preferably without a password, since if you have to type
the password everytime you want to do sudo emerge, you might as well
just su, imo.
Good luck,
Holly
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gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mpg123: Can't open /dev/dsp!
Walter Dnes schreef:
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 08:41:44PM +0100, Simon Kellett wrote
Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
... mpg123 complains about not being able to open /dev/dsp ...
Does mpg123 -a /dev/sound/dsp work ?
Nope. The only change is that now I get Can't open
/dev/sound/dsp!.
Well, my understanding (which may not be correct, but I /think/ it is)
is that /dev/sound/dsp is the sound sequencer created by OSS or ALSA OSS
emulation-- if OSS is not enabled somehow, you won't have it, and if the
app uses ALSA directly (and not OSS emulation), you won't use it (so you
won't notice it's not there).
The ebuilds seem to suggest that mpg123 uses OSS (therefore ALSA OSS
emulation), whereas mpg321 uses ALSA natively:
# $Header:
/var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/mpg123/mpg123-0.59s-r10.ebuild,v
1.4 2006/03/08 15:46:03 flameeyes Exp $
inherit eutils
PATCH_VER=1.5
S=${WORKDIR}/${PN}
DESCRIPTION=Real Time mp3 player
HOMEPAGE=http://www.mpg123.de/;
SRC_URI=http://www.mpg123.de/mpg123/${PN}-pre${PV}.tar.gz
mirror://gentoo/${P}-gentoo-${PATCH_VER}.tar.bz2
LICENSE=as-is
SLOT=0
KEYWORDS=~alpha ~amd64 ~hppa ~ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc-macos ~ppc64 ~sparc
~x86
IUSE=mmx 3dnow esd nas oss
RDEPEND=esd? ( media-sound/esound )
nas? ( media-libs/nas )
# alsa-1 b0rks and it's not a simple fix
#alsa? ( media-libs/alsa-lib )
Interestingly, the alsa USE flag is commented out, but the IUSE=
variable contains OSS.
More interestingly, the mpg321 ebuild contains no listed dependencies on
/either/ ALSA or OSS (or any other sound server)-- which strongly
suggests that it's native ALSA, since that is enabled in the kernel by
default (whereas OSS is not), indicating that if your soundcard's kernel
modules load, mpg321 will work, since it seems to have no explicit
additional ALSA or OSS dependencies.
less /usr/portage/media-sound/mpg321/mpg321-0.2.10-r3.ebuild
# Copyright 1999-2005 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header:
/var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/mpg321/mpg321-0.2.10-r3.ebuild,v
1.1 2005/08/29 09:48:18 flameeyes Exp $
inherit eutils
IUSE=
DESCRIPTION=Free MP3 player, drop-in replacement for mpg123
SRC_URI=mirror://sourceforge/${PN}/${P}.tar.gz
HOMEPAGE=http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpg321/;
DEPEND=media-libs/libmad
media-libs/libid3tag
=media-libs/libao-0.8.0
SLOT=0
LICENSE=GPL-2
KEYWORDS=~alpha ~amd64 -mips ~ppc ~ppc-macos ~ppc64 ~sparc ~x86
PROVIDE=virtual/mpg123
src_unpack() {
In any case, do you have ALSA OSS emulation enabled? This requires:
1) ALSA OSS emulation elements to be enabled in the kernel, including:
M Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
M Sequencer support
Sequencer dummy client
M OSS Mixer API
M OSS PCM (digital audio) API
[*] OSS Sequencer API
2) Your soundcard to be configured correctly in /etc/modules.d/alsa
3) the alsa-oss package (at least; there may be other associated alsa-*
packages necessary, but since I install all of them except alsa-driver,
I've never investigated which packages are actually necessary to enable
each area of the ALSA functionality).
If so, it _ /does/ _ work:
lsmod |grep snd_
snd_seq_midi6176 0
snd_opl3_synth 12292 0
snd_seq_instr 6656 1 snd_opl3_synth
snd_seq_midi_emul 5504 1 snd_opl3_synth
snd_ainstr_fm 2176 1 snd_opl3_synth
==snd_pcm_oss41760 0
==snd_mixer_oss 14208 2 snd_pcm_oss
==snd_seq_oss26880 0
snd_seq_midi_event 5632 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss
==snd_seq42256 8
snd_seq_midi,snd_opl3_synth,snd_seq_instr,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_cmipci 27552 1
==snd_pcm69128 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_cmipci
snd_page_alloc 7688 1 snd_pcm
snd_opl3_lib8064 2 snd_opl3_synth,snd_cmipci
snd_timer 18564 3 snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib
snd_hwdep 6560 1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_mpu401_uart 5504 1 snd_cmipci
snd_rawmidi18336 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_mpu401_uart
==snd_seq_device 6284 6
snd_seq_midi,snd_opl3_synth,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi
snd41316 13
snd_opl3_synth,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_cmipci,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
eix alsa-oss
* media-libs/alsa-oss
Available versions: 1.0.10-r1 ~1.0.11_rc3
Installed: 1.0.11_rc3
Homepage:http://www.alsa-project.org/
Description: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture OSS
compatibility layer.
# Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
# $Header:
/var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsa-modules.conf-rc,v
1.4 2004/11/16 01:31:22 eradicator Exp $
# ALSA portion
# OSS/Free portion
##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read
Re: [gentoo-user] file .ogg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Hi everybody. I think gentoo is driving me crazy. Since I found out the I can listen .wav file but not .ogg file, to-day I installed libvorbis, mpeg123 and vorbis-tools. But the result is the same . . . I cannot listen .ogg file. Hi, Emilio, What program are you trying to listen to said *.ogg files with? Was that program emerged with OGG/Vorbis support? An emerge -pv package will tell you what USE flags are available to the application you're trying to play the files with, and what support was compiled into it. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?
Teresa and Dale schreef Nagatoro wrote: Why don't upgrade? As far as I know upgrading gcc isn't a big deal. It was just the 3.3.x - 3.4.x that was due to that the api for c++ had changed. Oh, I thought it was a big deal. That's why I was wanting to wait. Funny thing is, it don't want to upgrade now so maybe it had a bug and they set it back again or something, or I just missed it and upgraded anyway. ;-) (other) Funny thing is, last I heard, you were planning to mask the upgrade versions of GCC. If you did that, of /course/ you are no longer offered upgrades, since that's the point of masking (to mark a package as unavailable to be installed on this computer). gcc-3.4.5-r1 is the most recent stable; current unstable (~x86) is 3.4.6, 4.0 is masked (hard-masked), so you wouldn't see it anyway. So I'm guessing you are running stable only, and masked the most recent stable version explicitly (3.4.5-r1)? If you masked only that version in /etc/portage/package.mask, like so =sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1 you won't see an offer to update until 3.4.6 goes stable; if you masked all versions above your current version, as in | =sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1 you won't see an offer to update ever, until you adjust the mask. Although when 4.0 makes it into the tree, it might use a different slot, so that might make you an offer. But as far as I know, 3.4.5-r1 is still alive and kicking in the tree. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Lord Sauron schreef: Okay, here's where I've isolated the problem to. snip . I know that it correctly compiles the kernel. I put a new name for the new kernel (test1) to try and ID it snip # make install Sticks it into /boot. /boot now reads System.mapconfig.old System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 grub System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old lost+found System.map.oldvmlinuz boot vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 configvmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 v mlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 vmlinuz.old config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old Not terribly exciting. However, I went to /boot/grub/menu.lst and it reads as such: localhost boot # cat ./grub/menu.lst default 0 timeout 7 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=Gentoo Linux root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 The most concerning part is the last three lines. For any kernel, it appears to demand the kernel itself. If you'll refer back to # ls /boot then you'll notice that kernel-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 isn't there. Yes it is: vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 Nor is the initrd. I don't know where they might be, or if they're not there then how to generate them. No, the initrd isn't there; you apparently made your previous kernel with genkernel, which creates an initrd, and you further do not have splashutils installed (which would/can also make an initrd to contain the bootsplash images). Manual kernel installation using 'make install' copies the bzImage (the kernel itself) to /boot/, and names it vmlinuz-kernel.version-extra_version_if_used. Make install also copies the helpful but not strictly necessary .config and system.map files to /boot/ adding the version to the end to distinguish it from other supplemental files for other kernels, and creates two symlinks to the current and newly-installed kernel: vmlinuz -- links to the newly installed kernel vmlinuz.old -- links to the current kernel that the newly-installed kernel is replacing. Similar symlinks are also created for the .config and system.map files for the respective kernels. What this means is that you can just tell grub that the first item on the list should load 'vmlinuz' (which is going to be a link to the most recently installed kernel), and the second entry should load vmlinuz.old (which is a link to the previous kernel to the most newly installed, in case of problems). If you have even more old kernels, they can always be listed by the full kernel version. In any case, it seems to me that you basically need to create a new entry for the test kernel; just copy the current entry, paste it above the other one, then delete the following relevant portions: 1. Change 'kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0' to read kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 (not sure about the 'root= part; /dev/ram0 seems a bit weird to me but perhaps this is in some way functional for your particular setup. I have no experience with genkernel, which this setting looks like to me, but maybe somebody can confirm that. If it is from genkernel, root= should be the partition of the root filesystem, on my system, this setting is root=/dev/hda5) 2. delete everything else, apparently. I can see that most of the entry is generated by/related to genkernel. Here, for reference is my grub entry for my manually compiled kernels (never used genkernel, as I said): # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,1) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda5 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/grub-livecd2.xpm.gz title Gentoo_current (2.6.15-gentoo-r7mga) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz ro quiet root=/dev/hda5 video=matroxfb:vesa:0x11B,depth:32 splash=silent,theme:livecd-2005.1 CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 title Gentoo_prev (2.6.15-gentoo-r7) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz.old ro root=/dev/hda5 video=matroxfb:vesa:0x11B:ywrap,pmipal,mtrr:3,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose,theme:emergence quiet CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 title Failsafe_current root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:ywrap,pmipal,mtrr:3,[EMAIL PROTECTED] emergency If you ignore all the video= settings, as you should, since they are
Re: [gentoo-user] GorillaTrades Tutorial
Mark Knecht schreef: Hi, I wonder if anyone else has this problem. The tutorial at this page starts and I get audio, but I don't get any video or slides. Config problem here or Linux multimedia issue? http://www.gorillatrades.com/tutorial/# Thanks, Mark Like JimD, I also was able to view as much of the tutorial as I could stand (the narrator's voice was pretty annoying to me) without problems. Unlike JimD, though, I do have gentoo-installed flash: Shockwave Flash Bestandsnaam: libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 7.0 r63 MIME-type BeschrijvingAchtervoegsels Actief application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Ja application/futuresplashFutureSplash Player spl Ja eix netscape-flash * net-www/netscape-flash Available versions: 6.0.79 6.0.81 7.0.25 7.0.61 7.0.63 Installed: 7.0.63 Homepage:http://www.macromedia.com/ Description: Macromedia Shockwave Flash Player eix mozilla-firefox * www-client/mozilla-firefox Available versions: 1.0.7-r4 ~1.5-r9 ~1.5-r11 ~1.5.0.1-r2 ~1.5.0.1-r3 Installed: 1.5.0.1-r3 Homepage:http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ Description: Firefox Web Browser So, sorry, don't know what to tell you, Mark, but hopefully this information is in some way useful. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] GPG keys, servers and signing (was, ATI Composte DRI)
OK, since this is getting to be kind of a whole thing, I've split it off. This message is (or should be) signed. Hopefully using PGP/MIME, which, if I understand Neil correctly, is what I'm supposed to do. You all have undoubtedly realized by now that I have little experience and less understanding of GPG keys and their proper use; I only have one because last year (which is why the key is from 2004), I was corresponding with someone who preferred encrypted email. Now that I've got my reinstall relatively stable-- at the time of the key's creation, I was using Gentoo, which I broke, and in the meantime, I'd switched to SuSE, where I didn't use my backed-up keyrings at all, and back to Gentoo-- and got Enigmail working again, I figure it's time to learn at least how to use my keys properly. Even if I don't seem to have much use for them now, you never know when it might come in handy. I think I've pretty much got a handle on full encryption (not only did I exchange several encrypted mails last year, but today I sent myself a test mail, which I was able to decrypt), but the signing is kinda wiping the floor with me, apparently. OK, so Neil said: Neil Bothwick schreef: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:26:43 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: But this whole episode has at least gotten me to finally upload my own key, so I've (hopefully) signed this message. Yes, but as an inline signature, not as a MIME message part, which is the preferred way of doing it. Right that means, I think, that the default setting in Enigmail's PGP/MIME settings-- Allow PGP/MIME-- should be set to Always use PGP/MIME. Is that correct? The point being-- as I understand it-- that MIME parts have something to do with IMAP, which I don't use (yet), but many others do, especially those likely to be desiring signed or encrypted mail, so it's just better to use it by default? Fine, then let me know if this message, transmitted using the new setting, arrived with the signature correctly as a MIME message part. Meanwhilst, Rumen said: Hi, Lately stopped using keyservers very much, but now just tried to search/check for your key, the result: 1.running: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --search-key Holly gets this snip (10)Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1024 bit DSA key 94456400, created: 2004-07-05 snip there are many more, reached till 123 and there's more ;) 2.running: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --search-key Holly gets this ...BEGIN... gpg: searching for Holly from hkp server random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de snip me not winding up in the first 25 hits ...END... Searching with '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (on both) results the in same one entry above. This key is from 2004: (1) Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1024 bit DSA key 94456400, created: 2004-07-05 Which is my key, so it's out there somewhere. But I am wondering if it is in some way incomplete or improperly aliased-- or was Holly too general a search as opposed to Bostick? Yes, apparently so; replacing --search-key Holly with --search-key Bostick comes up with me first on both searches. Not so much that I'm hyped on being first, but at least it means I'm easily found if someone's looking. So that seems OK then, but I still have a few questions: 1) My key is set to never expire (afaik). Is that OK, or should I generate a new key... I dunno, every 3 months or something? That seems to negate the whole idea of having a key in the first place, but what do I know? 2) Do I need to create a digital certificate? Is it any good if it's self-signed? Or should I go to the archives and find that site that will generate one for me? 3) On the same note, I don't have a Web of Trust; my key is unsigned (naturally), and the keys I've collected from this list I have not dared to specify trust levels for. Should I be concerned about this, and take steps to rectify the situation with all due haste? If so, how would I go about that? All I've heard of are key-signing parties, which seem unlikely be a feasible option for me. 4) Clearly no one I am in contact with seems to really care if I sign my emails by default, but should I protect them from themselves and do so anyway? Are there any benefits to this good habit, especially since my key is unsigned anyway? 5) If I take up the habit of signing my emails, is it unreasonably dangerous to also set No password for user in the Enigmail options? I know that if I have to dig up my complex and unique password every time I send an email (in order to sign it), I'm not going to sign them, but if not requiring the complex and unique password opens a high possibility of compromising the key itself (because if I was hacked, said miscreant could send signed emails from me because s/he doesn't have to know the complex and unique password in order to do so), then I suppose I'd have to just suck it up (assuming that there's some overriding benefit in me taking up this habit in the first place). Anyway, I know it's OT
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X woes after baselayout update.
Qian Qiao schreef: On 24/06/05, Qian Qiao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, if I run udevstart before trying to start X, X fires up correctly. More info, alsa woes too. alsasound cannot start correctly at boot time, have to run a udevstart to start it too. Am I missing something, or doesn't this indicate that the issue is that udev is not starting automatically, at the proper time? So isn't the question to ask, what is there in baselayout that normally determines when udev starts (or whether it starts), and has that changed? The Changelog also implies that one really, *really* needs to do an etc-update (or dispatch-conf, or cfg-update, as you prefer) after updating baselayout-- is it possible that some config file didn't get updated, and baselayout is a bit broken as a result? I'm using the same version of baselayout eix baselayout * sys-apps/baselayout Available versions: 1.9.4-r6 !1.9.4-r7 ~1.11.11-r3 1.11.12-r4 [M]1.12.0_alpha2-r1 Installed: 1.11.12-r4 Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/ Description: Base layout for Gentoo Linux (incl. initscripts and sysvinit) and am having no problems with it. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
maxim wexler schreef: Error 17 Installing to /dev/hda2, the gentoo boot part, gave same result Well, at least now it gives me an error num. ...answering himself 17 : Cannot mount selected partition This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB. This reminds me. When I installed 2005.0(sempron-box) I tried to mkreiserfs /dev/hda2, the boot partition, since that gave no problem in 2004.3(k6-box)but it gave me some sort of error, forget which, so I went for the default, or anyways, the suggestion in the manual, ext2, so maybe there is a problem with the fs. Perhaps if I just re-formatted /boot and re-emerge grub. Or, at least check the fs. Come to think about it, the sempron seems to find it easier reading the floppy than the hd. What d'ya think people? And what *was* that mysterious error all about anyway? Here's another: if /dev/hda2 *is* corrupt, how comes it that it can be read and written to without error? Discuss :) Now, this, I *know* I said like ages ago (June 1st, actually) Holly Bostick schreef: maxim wexler schreef: And which OS are you choosing from the menu again, maxim (assuming you get to a menu)? Or does this affect all OSes in your menu? no choice. After grub-install I get the Grub loading stage1.5 Grub loading, please wait... message(white text,black bg). To get back to Macroshaft I boot into a Win98 CD and run fdisk /mbr Ok, now I've got it. The menu doesn't load at all. But your previous post as to formatting the /boot partition made me think of something I had problems like that some time ago, back when I first installed my first Gentoo. Basically what had happened was I got weird and unattributable errors due to my filesystem not being correctly formatted. It was supposed to be formatted, and files were installed to it and everything, but filesizes were being reported differently by different tools and things just didn't work properly. What I wound up doing was using qtparted to delete the filesystem and reformat it. Once the filesystem on the disk was the same as the filesystem that the disk thought it had, everything worked fine. Now, I seem to recall having heard that it is possible to delete and reformat a filesystem without deleting the partition (or damaging the files thereon), but I didn't know enough at the time to do that, so I just deleted the entire partition and recreated it. Since this is /boot, it won't be a tragedy to delete the partition, recreate, format it as ext2 from the start and reinstall grub. But maybe there's a way that you can just reformat the existing partition (again) as ext2, so that it takes. You might still have to reinstall grub anyway, however at this point that seems like the least of your worries :-) . By diverse means, we arrive at the same end. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde Issue
Ian K schreef: I didn't know about this kde-meta package.. Will it get me 3.4.1? Ian http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=kde-meta kde-meta Description: kde - merge this to pull in all kde packages Releasesalpha amd64 arm hppaia64mipsppc ppc64 ppc macos s390sh sparc x86 3.4.1 - ~ - - - - ~ ~ - - - ~ ~ 3.4.0 - ~ - - - - ~ ~ - - - ~ ~ CategoryHomepageLicense ChangeLog Similar BugsForums kde-baseGPL-2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT? Gnome no bzip2 utility
Dave S schreef: I am starting to play with Gnome, I am trying to install some more icons, I drag my icon file to 'Theme Preferences', it downloads then reports ... Can not install theme. The bzip2 utility is not installed bash-2.05b$ emerge -p bzip2 These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] app-arch/bzip2-1.0.3 bash-2.05b$ So it is there. I have tried comming out and then back into Gnome but with the same result. Any ideas ? Dave Where did you get the icon theme from? Have you looked inside the archive? Some themes available on kde-look.org and (less often) art.gnome.org or gnome-look.org need to be compiled first (they're actually source tarballs rather than gnome-installable themes). Plus it would be useful to know if the archive is actually openable in the first place-- and by what program, so open it and look inside to see what's there. Weird error, though-- even for a theme. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT? Gnome no bzip2 utility
Dave S schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: snip cd to the directory bash-2.05b$ ls 36x36 README index.theme makePngFromSvg.sh scalable bash-2.05b$ cat README This is a mostly complete svg icon set based on SGI's Indigo Magic Desktop. snip Some themes available on kde-look.org and (less often) art.gnome.org or gnome-look.org need to be compiled first (they're actually source tarballs rather than gnome-installable themes). I did not know that, but the README does not suggest compiling there is no make file I understand that--- but that script makePngFromSvg.sh must be in there for some reason, mustn't it? If you didn't have to convert the .svg files, why would you need it? Because you were maybe still using GNOME 2.4? Yeah, right. Well, OK, it's possible that the theme has been around for a long time, from before GNOME fully supported SVG. I take it back. Anyway, why don't you just make a folder in your ~/.themes folder, with the name of the theme, and drag the 36x36, index.theme, and scalable items into it. That's all the theme manager does anyway. Alternatively, open a file manager or file-roller as root, and extract the same files to a theme_name folder in /usr/share/icons, which is where the theme would be installed if it was installed as part of the system. One of those two is probably a better idea anyway; the theme manager can be kind of a bear and doesn't usually work well for me anyway. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.12* hoses ati and bcm4400
Iain Buchanan schreef: Hi, I recently upgraded to 2.6.12, and on my recompile of all associated parts, ati-drivers had some trouble, and bcm4400 plain didn't compile! This process has worked almost flawlessly for me through many 2.6 kernels. With 2.6.12 I managed to get ati-drivers working, but on boot, when loading vesafb (tng) the kernel message shows the ati card string, and then hung about 50% of the time. With 2.6.12.1 it hung 100% of the time at this point. snip I would be interested in hearing from any one else who had success / failure with the 2.6.12* kernel and ati drivers. Basically the drivers do not officially support 2.6.12, as it was not released at the time of the driver release, and ATI has a policy of only supporting stable/released kernels (not -rc kernels or the like). However, users are fighting madly to create patches, since if ATI does not provide a hotfix release or patch, we all have to wait some 6 weeks for an upgraded driver, or not upgrade our kernels until the next scheduled release (ati has a two-month release schedule, and these drivers were released on the 9th of June). You probably want to check out this thread at the Rage3d forums: No DRI with kernel 2.6.12 http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33819631 as well as ATI: 2.6.12-rc6 patch http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33819050 and from the unofficial Bugzilla [patch] kernel 2.6.12 support http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=136 I feel that there was also a thread -- somewhere -- collecting all the user-created patches to date, but I can't find it, sorry. In any case, hope this helps; I make no warranty for any of these solutions as I have not tried them myself-- I haven't even had the time to compile and upgrade gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r8 to 2.6.11-r11, much less try to get 2.6.12 working. It's looking like by the time I get around to upgrading my kernel, it will be time for a new release anyway, so I'll probably just wait to upgrade. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] different times in postfix log
Jan Callewaert schreef: Hi, if I watch the logs of postfix, I have different times in it. Jun 18 19:17:43 [postfix/qmgr] 1E365EDCC3: from=bla, size=4398, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jun 18 21:17:44 [postfix/local] 1E365EDCC3: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (delivered to command: procmail) Jun 18 19:17:44 [postfix/qmgr] 1E365EDCC3: removed Jun 18 21:17:48 [postfix/smtpd] disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] this is at 21:18. Date displays the correct hour. Any idea what is causing this? Only [postfix/qmgr] is showing the wrong time, the rest is correct. Regards, Jan Callewaert A perhaps more important question is: Why am I receiving a second copy of this message 10 days after I originally received it (and it's dated 10 days ago, too)? Am I the only one who received this (again) today (about 2 minutes ago, 14:26 CET)? If there is some kind of weirdness with my ISP (which would likely be the case if I'm the only one who got this), I certainly want to know about it-- and if Jan has some kind of weirdness on his (?) servers, I guess he (?) would want to know about that, too. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice2.0 Install [not solved :( ]
Ian K schreef: Zac Medico wrote: Ian K wrote: Hey Everyone, I really want the OO.org 2.0 beta, but its not in portage snip http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-office;name=openoffice-bin The latest beta is in the portage tree but it's keyword masked. echo app-office/openoffice-bin ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge openoffice-bin Im getting a problem though.. After I enter in your command, I did an emerge search to get the size of the download, but it says the latest version is still 1.1.4, and I just did an emerge sync a few hours ago... Any ideas? Yes... This suggests that you've either made a typo or otherwise not successfully unmasked the file. Now, I'm looking at the OO.o-bin entry in packages.gentoo.org, openoffice-bin 1.9.109 Thu Jun 16 16:48:15 2005 Description: OpenOffice productivity suite Changes: *openoffice-bin-1.9.109 (16 Jun 2005) 16 Jun 2005; Andreas Proschofsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] +files/1.9/ooo-wrapper2, +openoffice-bin-1.9.109.ebuild: New beta version of OOo 2.0. This uses a new wrapper, also adds two new languages (hr and lt) plus some minor fixes and the user install dir has changed. 05 Jun 2005; Andreas Proschofsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] openoffice-bin-1.9.104.ebuild: Make the LINGUAS-stuff a little bit smarter to not break en_GB, closes bug #93826 21 May 2005; Andreas Proschofsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] openoffice-bin-1.9.104.ebuild: Missed two new rpms, which breaks stuff for some. Fixed. Install changing all the time is really anoying. alpha amd64 arm hppaia64mipsppc ppc64 ppc macos s390sparc x86 1.9.109 - M~ - - - - - - - - - M~ and it looks to me like it's double-masked; hard-masked and by keyword. This is supported by my own settings (I have 1.9.109 installed myself). So first you have to disable the hard mask: echo 'app-office/openoffice-bin' /etc/portage/package.unmask (make sure that /etc/portage exists first-- the echo command can create the file if it doesn't exist, but not the folder, so will fail in that case) and then the keyword mask: echo 'app-office/openoffice-bin ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords This should allow you to get a hold of the app you want. Works for me, anyway. If it still doesn't work, check for typos inside the file itself (in a root terminal with nano, or a gk/kdesu text editor, as only root can edit these files)-- I'm becoming rather famous with myself for echoing to /etc/portage/packagecommawhatever rather than /etc/portage/packageperiodwhatever (yeah, I can't half type)-- this and other typos will prevent the entry from being correctly read, thus not telling Portage that you want the package made available to you. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Amarok
Anthony E. Caudel schreef: I recently switched to the KDE 3.4 split ebuilds but when I tried to emerge Amarok, it wnated to pull in several 3.3 packages: == These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild NS ] kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r1 +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid -debug +esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama 945 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r9 +alsa +arts +cups -debug +doc +ipv6 -kdeenablefinal -kerberos +ldap +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama 15,257 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r3 +arts +cups -debug +java -kdeenablefinal +ldap +opengl +pam +samba +ssl -xinerama 19,526 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.3.2 +alsa +arts -audiofile -cdparanoia -debug +encode +flac -kdeenablefinal +oggvorbis -speex +xine -xinerama 5,258 kB [ebuild N] media-sound/amarok-1.2.4 +arts -debug +flac +gstreamer +kde -kdeenablefinal +mad +mysql -noamazon +oggvorbis +opengl -visualization +xine -xinerama +xmms 5,875 kB I placed amarok in package.keywords so it would pull in the latest 1.2.4 version but that did't help. I don't see any particular USE flags that would cause this. None of the other apps wanted to do this and I really don't believe these 4 packages are necessary. How can I find out what is forcing this and prevent it. Tony What's forcing it is your version of amarok: # ChangeLog for media-sound/amarok # Copyright 2000-2005 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2 # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/amarok/ChangeLog,v 1.59 2005/06/27 10:21:02 flameeyes Exp $ *amarok-1.3_beta2 (27 Jun 2005) 27 Jun 2005; Diego Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] +amarok-1.3_beta2.ebuild: New upstream beta. 22 Jun 2005; Hanno Boeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] +files/amarok-gcc4.gz, amarok-1.2.4.ebuild: Fix for gcc4. 17 Jun 2005; Joseph Jezak [EMAIL PROTECTED] amarok-1.2.3.ebuild: Marked ppc stable. 16 Jun 2005; Diego Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] amarok-1.3_beta1.ebuild: Amarok 1.3 depends on kde 3.3 not 3.4. See that last entry? You need the 1.3 beta, not the last release. esults 1 - 1 of 1 amarok Description: amaroK - the audio player for KDE. Releasesalpha amd64 arm hppaia64mipsppc ppc64 ppc macos s390sh sparc x86 1.3_beta2 - M~ - - - - M~ - - - - - M~ 1.3_beta1 - M~ - - - - M~ - - - - - M~ The betas are hard masked and package masked, so you will have to (from a root terminal): echo 'media-sound/amarok' /etc/portage/package.unmask and echo 'media-sound/amarok ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords then you should be able to get the version that depends on KDE 3.4. BTW, I'm using it (the beta build), and it seems fine (this is my first time using Amarok, so I have no previous experience). I don't even use KDE, but it's now my default player. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vsftp .vs. ftpbase WTF??
Stoian Ivanov schreef: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -auD world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 (is blocking net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00) [ebuild N] net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 [ebuild U ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 [2.0.3] !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!on the same system. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # So the answer is Den't emerge until things are sorted out (ftpbase-0.01 orvsftpd-2.0.3-r2)? And your question would be? Are you asking how to find out why ftpbase is being called at all (run emerge -upDt world to get a tree view that will show you what installed program vsftpd is a -D(ependency) of, and also what installed program is requiring ftpbase)? Are you asking how to solve the issue (unmerge vsftpd and then run the original command again, which will allow ftpbase to install, as it cannot be installed on a system where vsftpd is already installed-- apparently they are replacements for each other)? Or are you asking which one is better (no idea)? Of course you can emerge while this is up in the air; just not with --deep and probably not world (as world will likely re-initiate the conflict). But if there are other things on the list that you want to update, you can of course do that, and you can of course add any new apps that might catch your fancy. And some 5-10 minutes of looking at the information of the two conflicting apps-- a combination of searches on www.gentoo-portage.com and packages.gentoo.org , with a side trip to one or both homepages, usually should indicate why the block exists and provide enough information about both programs so you can decide how you personally want to solve it (maybe you don't want ftpbase at all and want to stick with vsftpd). Blocks really seem to throw people for a loop, when they're really only there to make you *stop* the headlong rush and examine the particular situation more carefully. Otherwise, they're not a really big deal, at least IMHO. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Another question on mailing cron-job output
Hey, list, You may remember me asking previously about how to get cron to mail me the output of esync, which is working fine so fine, in fact, that I think I'll take Neil's recent suggestion of putting revdep-rebuild -p in cron.weekly and having that output mailed to me as well. So atm, my cron jobs mail me the output of esync and glsa-check (and shortly revdep-rebuild -p). But there's also a default cron job that runs daily... test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons /usr/sbin/run-crons Now, I want this job to run, but I really don't need the input mailed to me, especially if this is what it is (and this *is* what it is): !!! aux_get(): ebuild path for 'app-misc/FileRunner-2.5.1' not specified: !!!None Building database from scratch .. Reading Portage settings .. Using eix database in /var/cache/eix Using portage cache: /usr/portage/ Reading cache for main tree: 0%000%001%002%002%003%004%005%005%006%007%008%008%009%010%010%011%012%013%013%014%015%016%016%017%018%018%019%020%021%021%022%023%024%024%025%026%027%027%028%029%029%030%031%032%032%033%034%035%035%036%037%037%038%039%040%040%041%042%043%043%044%045%045%046%047%048%048%049%050%051%051%052%053%054%054%055%056%056%057%058%059%059%060%061%062%062%063%064%064%065%066%067%067%068%069%070%070%071%072%072%073%074%075%075%076%077%078%078%079%080%081%081%082%083%083%084%085%086%086% 087%0 Reading overlays .. /usr/local/portage/ 0%000%001%002%002%003%004%005%005%006%007%008%008%009%010%010%011%012%013%013%014%015%016%016%017%018%018%019%020%021%021%022%023%024%024%025%026%027%027%028%029%029%030%031%032%032%033%034%035%035%036%037%037%038%039%040%040%041%042%043%043%044%045%045%046%047%048%048%049%050%051%051%052%053%054%054%055%056%056%057%058%059%059%060%061%062%062%063%064%064%065%066%067%067%068%069%070%070%071%072%072%073%074%075%075%076%077%078%078%079%080%081%081%082%083%083%084%085%086%086%087% 088%08 /usr/local/bmg-main/ 0%000%001%002%002%003%004%005%005%006%007%008%008%009%010%010%011%012%013%013%014%015%016%016%017%018%018%019%020%021%021%022%023%024%024%025%026%027%027%028%029%029%030%031%032%032%033%034%035%035%036%037%037%038%039%040%040%041%042%043%043%044%045%045%046%047%048%048%049%050%051%051%052%053%054%054%055%056%056%057%058%059%059%060%061%062%062%063%064%064%065%066%067%067%068%069%070%070%071%072%072%073%074%075%075%076%077%078%078%079%080%081%081%082%083%083%084%085%086%086%087% 088%0 Applying masks .. Database contains 9542 packages in 137 categories. Woo-hoo. The only error in this I know about (just haven't fixed it yet, but since it's why I can't even install the program, I know that particular ebuild is broken), and the rest of the output is pretty non-informative/useless. Is there any way to *not* receive mail from specific cron jobs, while leaving the rest of the mails intact? I looked at man cron and man crontab, but they seemed to indicate that it's kind of an all-or-nothing deal. Alternatively, since the output cron jobs are being mailed via a mail -s command in the scripts themselves, can I/should I just put a dummy user in cron's 'normal' mailto slot, so that the other mail essentially goes to /dev/null? It's not a big problem now, but I can see how, as I learn more about cron and add more jobs for the daemon to run, it could get to be. What I'd *really* like is the output from the jobs that I've set to mail me output, and a summary of names of any other jobs that ran successfully, just so I know that they ran successfully. But I don't think cron does
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem emerging man-1.6
Christian Herzyk schreef: Replying to my own mail: I just found the solution on the forums (the idiot at this keyboard only searched google and not the forums). The solution can be found here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-354675-highlight-man1+6.html For the information of anyone who might need to know-- it's fixed already. I just now synced and emerged it (in a -uaDtv world), and man-1.6 downloaded (I had deleted the previous tarball in /usr/portage/distfiles), extracted and emerged without a single problem (without changing my MAKEOPTS or anything of that nature, or of any nature, to be honest. It Just Worked). I *love* the Gentoo Dev team! You guys are the *best*! Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .MID plugin for mozilla
Michael Sullivan schreef: I saved the .mid file to my hard drive and tried to open it with mozilla. It gave me a dialog with this information: The file #3 is of type #2 (#1) and #4 does not know how to handle this file type. This file is located at: What should Mozilla do with this file? Open it with the default application Open it with Save it to disk I don't think this is normal. When I select the default application option I get a message that says /home/michael/FF6opera.mid could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. The trouble is that I've never used a helper application to play .mid files - I've always used mozilla... Ummm... it seems to me you've always used a helper application... after all, Mozilla is a *web browser*-- all it can do on its own is read web pages. It can't play midi files, or movies, or anything, without a helper application with that functionality being made available to it. It's just that most of the time the operation of that helper app is invisible to the user (but not always; consider for example the Acrobat Reader plugin, which is by no means an invisible helper app, nor is the RealPlayer plugin, which often opens RP in its own ugly window to play the file in question). The issue, as I see it, is that whatever backend is used to play midi on your computer is either non-existant, non-functional, or disconnected from Mozilla. I suspect what Mark was suggesting was that you try to play the MIDI file in a media player (the default application for MIDI files) and see if you could hear it-- if so, then we'd know that the system is capable of playing Midi files, just Mozilla doesn't know how. That's a different problem than what would be indicated by not being able to hear the file in XMMS (with correct plugin), or KMid, or whatever, at all-- then there's something wrong with your whole MIDI backend. Do you have playmidi installed (eix or emerge -S playmidi)? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
W.Kenworthy schreef: After an update (possibly pam related) a couple of weeks ago, I can no longer run so X apps under sudo (starting apps from a root logged in via su in an xterm work fine). In particular, I have some scripts using gtkdialog (which run as root) to ask which network for my laptop using a small gui before starting the correct network. However, any attempt to open a dialog generates an error (gtkdialog:18408): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: xhost + doesnt help so its probably another PAM problem - can someone recommend where to look? BillK I had the same problem, but it was *not* PAM-related (I don't use PAM). Found an answer on the forums (sorry, no link this time, maybe later)-- adding the following to sudoers (using visudo) worked for me: # Allow users in group users to export specific variables # Defaults:%users env_keep=TZ Defaults:%users env_keep=DISPLAY (the uncommented line is the additional line in question) Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness
Jerry McBride schreef: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 06:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to Migrate to 2.6. But when I reboot into my new genkerneled system, I cannot use X.org anymore, it complains about agpgart not working. Even If I modprobe the kernel mod or even compile it in directly it rejects it. Any Ideas on how to proceed? Creighton Without seeing the xorg logfile from /var/logs... I'd say you ahve to re-emerge xorg or at the least run revdep-rebuild -p to see whta has to get upgraded also. I question whether that would work, without knowing what hardware (motherboard, videocard) is involved, especially when I hear the word 'genkernel'. To me, errors in agpgart first suggest that either support for your motherboard's agp chipset is not compiled into the kernel, or --if compiled as a module, is not loaded; and secondly, the outside chance that-- if using an ATI card-- the InternalAGPGART setting is wrong; set to YES when it should be set to NO because you have to use your motherboard's kernel module (but this does not usually result in X.org not starting, just complaints in the logs), or set to NO when it should be set to YES because you don't use your motherboard's kernel support, so no agpgart is being loaded at all (which I would imagine would prevent X from starting). What does dmesg or /var/log/messages say about agpgart? Did it try to load and fail? What does lsmod say is loaded? If nothing, can you modprobe your agpgart module? What is your mobo and video card? If an ATI or nVidia video card, did you re-emerge the drivers after compiling the kernel? Basically, I'd just like to confirm that genkernel didn't drop the ball. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer codecs
Bruno Gola schreef: Hello guys, I was trying to play some *.wmv files in mplayer, but it seems i dont have the proper video codec (it complains about the video only), so, where should i put the codecs files ? Because i've already downloaded the codecs that i need... but i dont know where to put... can anyone help me? Thanks, Bruno Gola It might be easier if you just let Portage manage it: eix win32codecs * media-libs/win32codecs Available versions: 20050216 *~20050412 Installed: 20050216 Homepage:http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ Description: Win32 binary codecs for video and audio playback support and then made sure mplayer knew about it: emerge -pv mplayer These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre7 -3dfx +3dnow +3dnowext +X +aac +aalib +alsa (-altivec) -arts -bidi -bl +cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug +dga +directfb +divx4linux -doc +dts +dv +dvb +dvd +dvdread +edl +encode +esd +fbcon +ggi +gif +gtk -i8x0 -ipv6 -jack -joystick +jpeg +libcaca -lirc -live -lzo +mad +matroska -matrox +mmx +mmxext -mythtv +nas +nls -nvidia +opengl +oss +png +real +rtc +samba +sdl +sse +sse2 +svga +tga +theora +truetype +v4l +v4l2 +vorbis +win32codecs +xanim -xinerama +xmms +xv +xvid +xvmc 0 kB Of course, if you emerge mplayer +win32codecs, then you don't have to emerge the win32codecs package separately (unless you want it in your world file), as it will then be pulled in as a dependency. Holly Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer codecs
Bruno Gola schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Bruno Gola schreef: Hello guys, I was trying to play some *.wmv files in mplayer, but it seems i dont have the proper video codec (it complains about the video only), so, where should i put the codecs files ? Because i've already downloaded the codecs that i need... but i dont know where to put... can anyone help me? Thanks, Bruno Gola It might be easier if you just let Portage manage it: eix win32codecs * media-libs/win32codecs Available versions: 20050216 *~20050412 Installed: 20050216 Homepage:http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ Description: Win32 binary codecs for video and audio playback support and then made sure mplayer knew about it: emerge -pv mplayer These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre7 -3dfx +3dnow +3dnowext +X +aac +aalib +alsa (-altivec) -arts -bidi -bl +cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug +dga +directfb +divx4linux -doc +dts +dv +dvb +dvd +dvdread +edl +encode +esd +fbcon +ggi +gif +gtk -i8x0 -ipv6 -jack -joystick +jpeg +libcaca -lirc -live -lzo +mad +matroska -matrox +mmx +mmxext -mythtv +nas +nls -nvidia +opengl +oss +png +real +rtc +samba +sdl +sse +sse2 +svga +tga +theora +truetype +v4l +v4l2 +vorbis +win32codecs +xanim -xinerama +xmms +xv +xvid +xvmc 0 kB Of course, if you emerge mplayer +win32codecs, then you don't have to emerge the win32codecs package separately (unless you want it in your world file), as it will then be pulled in as a dependency. Holly Holly thanks for helping me, but ive already done this, i tried to merge this codecs package but, it stills not working... and when i try emerge -pv mplayer it stops at : [ebuild R ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre7 -3dfx +3dnow +3dnowext +X +aac +aalib +alsa (-altivec) -arts -bidi -bl +cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug +dga +directfb +divx4linux -doc +dts +dv +dvb +dvd +dvdread +edl +encode +esd +fbcon +ggi +gif +gtk -i8x0 -ipv6 -jack -joystick +jpeg +libcaca -lirc -live -lzo +mad +matroska -matrox +mmx +mmxext -mythtv +nas +nls -nvidia +opengl +oss +png +real +rtc +samba +sdl +sse +sse2 +svga +tga +theora +truetype +v4l +v4l2 +vorbis I cant see the: +win32codecs +xanim -xinerama +xmms +xv +xvid +xvmc 0 kB And, when i try to: emerge mplayer +win32codecs it complains: br ~ # emerge mplayer +win32codecs Calculating dependencies - emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy +win32codecs. Do you have anyidea ? thaks again, Bruno Gola The correct way would be to # echo 'media-video/mplayer win32codecs' /etc/portage/package.use (this will enable the USE flag for all compiles of mplayer, now and in the future) The much less correct way would be to # USE=win32codecs emerge mplayer (this will compile mplayer with the USE flag set just for this compile, but if you upgrade, Portage will not remember the setting, and will upgrade without the flag) You can also simply # emerge win32codecs which will install the codecs, but it will also put the package in your world file, which you may not want, and will also not tell mplayer about it (because mplayer was compiled without support for the codecs)-- you would still need to re-emerge mplayer with the win32codecs USE flag enabled. What version of mplayer are you emerging? Perhaps the last stable (1.0_pre6-r4) doesn't support that USE flag, and you have to unmask an unstable version? Hope this helps Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] sudo echo cannot write to /etc/ files ?
Hey, ho-- Here's (one of) today's non-critical problems that's getting on my nerves, so hopefully somebody can help. I've finally got around to setting up sudo. It works fine, except for one thing. I don't just give myself blanket permissions to sudo to all commands; I made a Cmd_Alias group which includes a lot of utility apps. And, like many of you, I included emerge in this group. But a lot of the time, when I do an emerge -av, I find that there's a USE flag I want or don't want for the package, or I want an unstable version, or whatever, which means I have to echo to one of the files in /etc/portage. Echo is in the sudo-ed group, and echo isn't the problem-- the problem is that permission is refused to write to the file itself (which is an error *from* echo, so it would seem that echo itself is OK as far as sudo goes). Which means that I have to su anyway, to echo to the file, which really isn't the point of the exercise. As I see it, this error can mean only one of two things: sudo does not give me a login shell (so my UID is 'really' still my UID and not root's, and I don't have permission to write to the file); or there is another, invisible cli utility responsible for actually writing to the file, which is not sudo-ed. Or could it be something else? In any case, does anybody know how I could fix this? It's really screwing up my useability, which was just starting to shape up nicely :-) . Thanks, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo cannot write to /etc/ files ?
A. Khattri schreef: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Holly Bostick wrote: Echo is in the sudo-ed group, and echo isn't the problem-- the problem is that permission is refused to write to the file itself (which is an error *from* echo, so it would seem that echo itself is OK as far as sudo goes). Which means that I have to su anyway, to echo to the file, which really isn't the point of the exercise. What is in /etc/sudoers? Either the problem is there or maybe its because in some shells, echo is a built-in command and in others its not (so /bin/echo comes into play). Well, I'm not going to copy my entire file, but I've got /usr/bin/echo sudoed (because that's what 'which echo' said was the path to echo). But doing a locate echo reveals that there is also a /bin/echo oh, and la /usr/bin/echo reveals it to be a symlink to /bin/echo. Fine. What in the bloody blue blazes does that tell me? Changing visudo to allow /bin/echo rather than /usr/bin/echo didn't do a thing. I'm using bash, like a boring person. Looking (searching, actually) through man bash, I can see that echo is a built-in-- do I have to sudo bash as well? And in any case, echo isn't refusing to run-- if I run secho $JAVA_HOME, I get a return... but it's the return of the *user's* JAVA_HOME, rather than the *system* JAVA_HOME. This supports my theory that this is a regular su shell and not an su - shell, which is not much help to me in this situation (for echo to write to the /etc/files, I need UID 0). So I suppose I could find this in man sudoers, but that's almost as bad as man bash for trying to find something when you're not quite sure what you're looking for. Is there a way to get sudo to behave as a login shell when sudo-ing rather than just a regular su? And is that a scalable or global change (limitable would be nice)? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo cannot write to /etc/ files ?
Edward Catmur schreef: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 15:52 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: Echo is in the sudo-ed group, and echo isn't the problem-- the problem is that permission is refused to write to the file itself (which is an error *from* echo, so it would seem that echo itself is OK as far as sudo goes). Which means that I have to su anyway, to echo to the file, which really isn't the point of the exercise. As I see it, this error can mean only one of two things: sudo does not give me a login shell (so my UID is 'really' still my UID and not root's, and I don't have permission to write to the file); or there is another, invisible cli utility responsible for actually writing to the file, which is not sudo-ed. If you're using e.g. sudo echo package /etc/portage/package.unmask then the redirection takes place in your shell, not in sudo. HTH. OK, you all likely realize that I responded before I had got the three more messages telling me what to do. I'm sure it will work (three people telling you the exact same thing is pretty convincing ;-) ), but what I don't understand is why/how, if I want to sudo echo 'media-video/xine-ui ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords changing that to sudo echo media-video/xine-ui ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords is going to write the line media-video/xine-ui ~x86 to /etc/portage/package.keywords-- i.e., why are the internal quotes no longer necessary? Or should it be sudo echo 'media-video/xine-ui ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords or will that *really* screw everything up? (As you see, my understanding of bash is trying to improve, with only very limited success :-) ). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo cannot write to /etc/ files ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Le Mercredi, 6 Juillet 2005 15.52, Holly Bostick a ecrit : Hey, ho-- I've finally got around to setting up sudo. It works fine, except for one thing. I made a Cmd_Alias group which includes a lot of utility apps. And, like many of you, I included emerge in this group. But a lot of the time, I have to echo to one of the files in /etc/portage. Echo is in the sudo-ed group, and echo isn't the problem-- the problem is that permission is refused to write to the file itself As I see it, this error can mean only one of two things: sudo does not give me a login shell (so my UID is 'really' still my UID and not root's, and I don't have permission to write to the file); or there is another, invisible cli utility responsible for actually writing to the file, which is not sudo-ed. Or could it be something else? In any case, does anybody know how I could fix this? It's really screwing up my useability, which was just starting to shape up nicely :-) . Thanks, Holly I think the problem come from the fact that echo is sudo-ed but the shell redirection isn't. Compare this: su -c echo foo /etc/portage/whatever and su -c echo foo /etc/portage/whatever The first one will succeed, but not the second. To solve your problem, I would just do: chgrp -R portage /etc/portage chmod -R g+w /etc/portage Well, it didn't work (this to all the respondents). I did change the group and mod of /etc/portage, but even before I did: sudo echo 'media-video/xine-ui ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords -bash: sudo echo 'media-video/xine-ui ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords: Onbekend bestand of map (unknown file or folder, which is at least different, but not really much of an improvement, and no, before someone asks, putting a space before /etc doesn't help) and even after chowning and chmodding: sudo echo 'media-video/xine-ui ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords -bash: /etc/portage/package.keywords: Toegang geweigerd (permission refused) with the quotes, it's unknown file or folder. la /etc/portage totaal 51 drwxrwxr-x 5 root portage 384 jun 13 00:40 . drwxr-xr-x 88 root root7312 jul 6 16:15 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 9757 jul 6 17:09 package.keywords -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 6164 mei 26 11:47 package.keywords~ -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 64 jun 15 05:27 package.mask -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 100 mei 16 14:57 package.mask~ -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 105 jun 15 05:27 package.unmask -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 103 mei 15 21:09 package.unmask~ -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 2252 jun 30 12:32 package.use -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 1616 mei 12 15:46 package.use~ drwxrwxr-x 2 root portage 80 nov 26 2004 profile drwxrwxr-x 2 root portage 72 jun 2 13:10 profiles drwxrwsr-x 2 root portage 48 okt 27 2004 sets Not really sure what good the portage group was supposed to do anyway, since root is a member of that group, but then again root owns the whole shebang anyway. The user is not a member of the portage group. Should I chown the folder -R to users? (seems again quite not the point)? It still seems that what I really want is a login shell that I'm not getting. I'm really lost. Where am I going wrong? Oh, btw, just remembered-- this is bash 3. Does that make a difference? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo cannot write to /etc/ files ?
Christoph Gysin schreef:
David Morgan wrote:
afaik you can only do it with su -c echo foo bar, which stops bash
from doing anything with the or the whitespace to begin with, but
then passes everything inside the double quotes to another shell, which
gets started by su -c
It's kind of annoying, I know, but I don't think there's a way round it
with sudo.
Yes it is possible. But you need the shell (which handles the redirect)
to run as root.
Ah-HAH! (at least I figured that much out, thanks for confirming)
$ sudo echo package ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords
will run the redirection as user, where:
$ sudo bash -c echo package ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords
will run the redirection as root.
For stuff like this, I'd recommend you to write simple shell functions:
addkeyword(){
sudo bash -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.keywords
}
Write them in your .bashrc and their avaible when you need it.
Use it like this:
$ addkeyword package ~x86
Christoph
Thank you, Christoph
You have not only saved my sanity, but you've given me a solution to two
problems you didn't even know I had (it was the next question)! i.e.,
how to essentially export self-created variables or something similar
(you don't know how many times I've put a comma between package and
keywords/use/unmask, and I really needed some way to not have to be
typing it all the time until I get more time in with GTypist); and also
how to easily use some of the aliases I've got in root's .bashrc (or at
least their functionality). Now, with some minor adjustments of this
template, not only can I add keywords (or useflags or mask and unmask)
easily, I can also open the package.* file in nano and edit it easily if
I screw up, or want to check something.
Last question on this subject-- is this all just bash scripting (so I
can learn about it if I sit and study the abs-guide) or is there
someplace else I should check out if I want to learn how to write this
stuff myself?
Thanks again,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] which package is kfm in?
Christoph Gysin schreef: Could some KDE user out there run the following command for me: $ equery b $(which kfm) Thanks! Christoph Actually, none-- it's 'konqueror --profile filemanagement' now (this just bit me the other day when I tried one of my rare uses of Konq and went looking for kfm, which no longer exists). So just install konqueror. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bash_history missing
maxim wexler schreef: Try to adjust those variables: HISTFILE=/home/your_account/.bash_history HISTFILESIZE=500 HISTSIZE=500 HTH, noro Thanks noro. I had to run the above from root and sure enough, they were written into my home dir .bash_history, along with the exit command to get back to user-space. So I ran a series of ls's just to check but they don't appear. So what now? Umm, not that I actually know anything about this, but I find it hard to imagine that a file written by root wouldn't be owned by root and would not exclude the user from being able to write to it. Why did you have to create a user file as root (not saying you didn't have to, just asking why)? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo cannot write to /etc/ files ?
Richard Fish schreef: BTW Holly, You should recognize that from a security standpoint allowing yourself to execute bash is really giving yourself blanket permissions to sudo to all commands. You might as well make life easier on yourself and just make your sudo settings ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL. My $.02. -Richard Thank you for the heads-up, Richard, but it would seem that that isn't quite true-- I did a test: sudo bash -c /etc/init.d/samba restart Gentoo Linux RC-Scripts; http://www.gentoo.org/ Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL Usage: samba flags [ options ] Options: In other words, I couldn't restart the Samba daemon, whereas when root I can: su Wachtwoord: wo 07/06/05 20:31 ~ root - /etc/init.d/samba restart * samba - stop: smbd ... [ ok ] * samba - stop: nmbd ... [ ok ] * samba - start: smbd ... [ ok ] * samba - start: nmbd ... [ ok ] So I think I'll pass on the ALL/ALL -- I know that this is not the most secure setup possible (though as soon as I set up a personal firewall behind the router's firewall and set up chrootkit, I'll feel yet better), but still, I'd like to keep what minimal limits still exist, despite having punched holes in them my own self. Or is this not a valid proof that there are some limits left? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo cannot write to /etc/ files ?
Richard Fish schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Richard Fish schreef: BTW Holly, You should recognize that from a security standpoint allowing yourself to execute bash is really giving yourself blanket permissions to sudo to all commands. You might as well make life easier on yourself and just make your sudo settings ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL. My $.02. -Richard Thank you for the heads-up, Richard, but it would seem that that isn't quite true-- I did a test: sudo bash -c /etc/init.d/samba restart Remember that the -c option for bash is a single argument, not the rest of the line. The 'restart' is being seen as a separate argument to bash, not as part of the command for bash to execute, if that makes any sense! It will work if you do: sudo bash -c /etc/init.d/samba restart -Richard So it will. Shoot. Oh, well. Maybe I'll rework this, or I should then ask for: 1) firewall recommendations (personal, as the router has one too; atm I'm liking firestarter) 2) anti-hacking monitors (other than chrootkit and rkhunter, if needed-- guess I'm thinking about keyloggers) ? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ffmpeg front-end recommendations?
Ryan schreef: I am looking for an excellent ffmpeg front end/gui. It doesnt matter if its a console or X based front end, as long as it supports as many features of ffmpeg as possible for decoding/encoding processes. The main purpose is to convert about 200 mp4's that I have into an SVCD/VCD or mpg format with ability to play with the quality of the video. I am able to do it with the command line, but the lines are so long to edit, that I'd rather have the buttons and dropdowns to select from instead. The ideal candidate I found would have been ffmpegX, but that is only for MacOSX. Is there something for Linux that is along the same lines as ffmpegX that would use both mencoder and ffmpeg? Sounds like a job for avidemux to me Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help I have b0rked my system :(
Dave S schreef: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Hi, you don't have composite activated, do you? I have looked in xorg.conf but cannot find any reference to it, just in case I swapped xorg.conf for an old copy, same problem :( Dave I've gotta say, composite was the first thing I thought of as well-- and I've never even seen it in use, much less used it myself. But would changing xorg.conf help, if the xorg package was compiled with the +composite USE flag set (which is what I at least am wondering about, rather than whether it's activated in the config or not)? I don't know anything about the feature, really, but given that all your problems seem to involve sudden, extreme, and unwanted transparency, and that's what composite does (transparency) ...what about xcompmanager (or whatever it's called)? Is that possibly running? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Okay, let's start over. I have only posted the first post of this thread, but I would say that all off the noise may imply that I am not alone here. -I have a working setup in 2.4, less so now than before, but xorg does still work. -in 2.6, xorg will break and complain that /dev/agpgart does not exist. -/dev/agpgart, in fact, does not exist when using Udev in 2.6, yet it does exist when I reboot into 2.4 Yes, but you see, my point is that-- as far as I know-- udev doesn't create the agpgart device; the loading of the kernel module does that. In the same way that the kernel modules are responsible for creating all the motherboard resources that load at boot before udev comes into the picture. So that's why I'm feeling that the problem is with your kernel, not udev per se. Although maybe coldplug wouldn't hurt to have in rc-update. -modprobe agpgart will result in an error What is the error? Module doesn't exist? Module is already loaded? Symbol errors? -genkernel --udev --menuconfig all will not show me an option that refers to AGP anything, is this a bus? Yes, it's a speeded-up, dedicated form of the PCI bus. The kernel configuration for it is Device Drivers== Character devices. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging old kernel
Ian K schreef: Hi there, I need to get a 2.4 kernel onto a system, but gentoo-sources now gives 2.6. I checked gentoo-portage.com and it says that there is still a 2.4 ebuild in the gentoo-sources package(?). As indeed there is: eix gentoo-sources * sys-kernel/gentoo-sources Available versions: 2.4.28-r9 2.6.9-r9 2.6.10-r6 2.6.11-r8 2.6.11-r11 [M]2.6.12-r3 [M]2.6.12-r4 Installed: 2.6.11-r8 2.6.11-r11 Homepage:http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/gentoo-dev-sources Description: Full sources including the gentoo patchset for the 2.6 kernel tree How do I get it? Try this: emerge -av =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r9 Don't forget to add sys-kernel-2.4.28-r9 to /etc/portage/package.mask, or Portage will keep trying to upgrade you. If there's a 2.4-series upgrade, that will also be blocked, but you are likely to be keeping an eye open for any such updates, and can adjust your package.mask accordingly. Thanks!! HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging old kernel
What I meant to say was: Don't forget to add sys-kernel-2.4.28-r9 to /etc/portage/package.mask. Stupid Thunderbird needs an escape character (or does it have one and I just don't know it?). Anyway, there should be a 'greater-than sign in fron of the package name, to mask all packages above it (which atm basically means all 2.6 series kernels). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerging old kernel
Ian K schreef: I get an error though: There are no ebuilds to satisfy =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r9 Thanks Holly! Ian Hey, Ian-- Maybe you need to sync or something, because it certainly works for me: za 07/09/05 03:18 ~ root - emerge -pv =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r9 These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild NS ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r9 -build -doc +symlink 31,453 kB Total size of downloads: 31,453 kB Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird
Benno Schulenberg schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: What I meant to say was: sys-kernel-2.4.28-r9 there should be a 'greater-than sign in fron of the package name, There was a greater-than for me, in KMail, also in your first mail. Apparently Thunderbird hides it from you. But it should do that only for From and nothing else. Bug in TB? Benno Yes and no-- the character is the symbol used to distinguish quotes from regular text-- and Thunderbird converts this character to a colored vertical line, so that quoted text looks like this when displayed: | here is my quoted text | and here is some more. I don't have an issue with this behaviour in general (in fact, I like the way quoted text is signified under normal circumstances). The problem is that, in this particular case, the character was the first non-whitespace character in the line, and T-Bird had no way of knowing that it was not intended to represent a traditional quote signifier, but was meant to remain itself. That is, of course, the whole point of escape characters; to tell the program in question that a character it has a standard meaning for should in this particular case not be translated to that meaning, but is meant to be just itself. The situation happens very rarely to me, but it's 'obvious' enough (especially to programmers and scripters, who use escape characters all the time) that I'm sure there must be some workaround for it for Thunderbird (since this is Thunderbird-specific behaviour, which I have noticed in the past, as well as the fact that KMail, for example, does not do this); I just don't know what it is. If there isn't, that *would* be a bug. I'll check MozillaZine and Google later Mozdev seems to like to hide this stuff. If you've ever tried to find the list of command-line switches for Netscape/Moz/Firefox on the Internet, you'll know exactly what I mean. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird
Peng schreef: I'll check MozillaZine and Google later Mozdev seems to like to hide this stuff. If you've ever tried to find the list of command-line switches for Netscape/Moz/Firefox on the Internet, you'll know exactly what I mean. Holly What do you mean about the command line switches? The Mozilla.org page about them is right at the top if you Google Mozilla command line. So it is now... but look at the date of this document: Mozilla's Command Line Options By Daniel Wang (May 7, 2003, revised June 02, 2004) I've been using this program long, long, before this (Netscape=Mozilla=Firefox, some 8 or 10 years, thus), and I'm much more used to having a hard time finding this information (which is basically the same as it has been since Netscape 4.3x, in terms of starting the Profile Manager and such), than to it being easy. It's good to know that it's much more readily available, though. Also, for Thunderbird, pretty much any character could be used, though that character would be displayed, too, of course. I think even a pipe would work. They are used for quotes sometimes, though, I think, so maybe another character would be better. Yes, the obvious workaround is to put double quotes around it as I did in the edit. I just dislike that, because, to be thorough, you also then have to add a don't forget to remove the quotes disclaimer in order to be newbie-friendly. But here, I can *probably* be a bit more lax and trust you all to be clever enough to know that already :) . Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cant emerge kdelibs
Dave S schreef: Hi all, I cannot emerge kdelibs on my 3000+ AMD, I have tried re-emerging qt first (found this on the forum), I have edited /etc/make.conf and removed my -O? flag, usually set to -O3 and tried repeatedly to re-emerge kdelibs without success. This has nothing to do with your CFLAGS, so you can put the -O setting back (nothing said about the 'virtues' of -O3; it's your PC). Anyway, here's part 1 of your problem: [ebuild R ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1 And here's part 2: grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive If you notice, the libsdcc++ is being searched in a previous version of gcc than the one you are now using (3.3.4 as opposed to 3.3.5). So when you upgraded GCC, some of the libs weren't moved to the new location. The way to fix that is: # sh fix_libtool_files.sh HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cant emerge kdelibs
Holly Bostick schreef: Oops, sorry, forgot part of the command: The way to fix that is: # sh fix_libtool_files.sh should be sh fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4 Sorry. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet
Allan Gottlieb schreef: Mark Knecht suggests just telling gnome to delete the mixer from my panel config and install in manually, which I may well do (thanks mark). I think that's how I fixed it too-- although the gnome mixer isn't all that useful as a mixer (compared to alsamixer, or gamixer), it is useful to be sure that *GNOME* is correctly set up for sound (the mixer acts like the canary in the mines; if it won't load, or errors with the 'no device found' business, you can be sure that no GNOME/GTK applications which normally produce sound, will). I am sure I can find some mixer somewhere, but would prefer to actually find this one. Right click on the panel; Add to Panel=Mixer should be somewhere in the list; if not, then check in the 'Pre-existing Gnome Packages' section (but I think it's in the first list). In any case, very few, if any, of the former gnome-applets seem to be runnable as commands any more. And the most recent gnome-panel (2.10.2) is so buggy-- even for GNOME-- that I've had to go back to fbpanel, which at least doesn't crash all the time due to some problem with the system notification area... instead of getting better (it used to be that the panel would crash in the mixer applet all the time, until you got the GNOME backend straightened out, but after that it was pretty stable-- no more, it seems). So this problem really could be anything, but I will say that the mixer applet worked fine once I (working from memory): 1) went to the GNOME control panel and made sure esd was set to start at GNOME login, which I believe also needed 2) the esound daemon running in the default runlevel and then 3) deleted and re-added the mixer applet. Problem was I didn't really want to be running the Enlightened Sound Daemon, so I somehow or other reconfigured everything to be ALSA instead (took esound out of the default runlevel, and *thought* I told GNOME not to start esd at startup, but it persists in doing so, went to the GNOME Control Panel=Multimedia and Sound, and mucked about with the sources and sinks until I could at least get test sounds), and the mixer applet continued to work (although the panel itself was notoriously unstable). If you can follow all that sigh... it was a bit of a trial. Hope it's helpful. This seems to be a bug. Should I file it with gentoo (perhaps bad packaging) or with gnome? This mixer applet issue has been going on a long time... I'd check Bugzilla first, and see if it has been filed (probably) and what's the current status (for all I know, Gentoo could be waiting for an upstream patch, which they usually note in b.g.o. Afaik, the procedure is to file it with Gentoo, always, and if it's an upstream problem, the gnome maintainers will pass it forward. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what's new with all those new packages?
Roy Wright schreef: emerge --pretend --changelog will display the change log(s). I usually do emerge -uDNv world -pl then if I like it, just delete the -pl to do the merge. Have fun, Roy Well that's all very well and good, but a great deal of the time the changelog only says something like 'version bump'-- because it's a *Gentoo* ChangeLog, not the *application* changelog. Which, if you're interested enough to want to know the contents of, you should go to the application's homepage (linked from the ebuild, or packages.gentoo.org), where it is usually published. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where is the functionality of etcat
Rudmer van Dijk schreef: etcat is deprecated in favor of equery but equery does not have a functionality like `etcat -v package` (listing all available versions of a package). I used it quite often and have been struggling with equery ever since etcat is deprecated... Are there plans to build this functionality into equery? if not, why?? Rudmer Possibly because you can do the same with eix (emerge eix): eix gnome-games * gnome-extra/gnome-games Available versions: 1.4.0.3-r3 2.4.2 2.6.2 2.8.1 2.8.1-r1 2.8.2 2.8.3 2.10.0 ~2.10.1 Installed: 2.10.1 Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/ Description: Collection of games for the GNOME desktop * gnome-extra/gnome-games-extra-data Available versions: 2.8.0 2.10.0 Installed: 2.10.0 Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/ Description: Optional additional graphics for gnome- games If that's of any help to you :-) . Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet
Allan Gottlieb schreef: The key seems to be having gstreamer in the USE variable. At Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:58:02 -0500 LostSon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this problem as well and i re-emerged gnome-panel and it went away. On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 14:16 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I just installed a new stage1 gentoo with gnome-2.10. It keeps complaining that The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet. In that case, make sure to run gstreamer-properties to make sure the gstreamer backend is properly configured. I did try to work with gstreamer, but the only thing that uses it --Totem-- really worked much better with the xine backend, so I switched Totem to that (recompile; if you compile it -xine it uses gstreamer; if +xine it uses xine) and didn't think about gstreamer much more after that, so I can't say more about its inner workings. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE/KDM problems
Alexander Kirillov schreef: What sort of a problem with /dev/dsp? You can't use /dev/dsp when arts (KDE sound daemon) is active. Either try artsdsp [-m] or wait till arts is suspended. Sasha Doesn't that situation call for the use of artswrapper? I don't use arts very much, so I forget how to call it (srtswrapper application?) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
Richard Watson schreef: Hi - I've just finished compiling Gnome and have no sound whatsoever. Looking at my USE flags I noticed I had inadvertently set -alsa as a flag. At this stage I've changed the flag to alsa and re-run genkernel. But still no sound. Do I have to recompile everything from scratch or have I made an incorrect diagnosis of the problem? As always any help would be appreciated -- Regards, Richard ECRM Imaging Systems Have you loaded the newly-compiled alsa driver modules for your sound card, run alsaconf and unmuted the mixer via alsamixer? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where is the functionality of etcat
Rudmer van Dijk schreef: Holly: eix is probably not it, since it looks like it does not show the availability of the package (masked+keyword), but thanks for the suggestion! Rudmer Actually, it most certainly does; keyworded packages are shown in brown with a ~ in front, masked packages are listed in red with a [M] in front. Of course you can use what suits you best; just wanted to clear up the misconception. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: where is the functionality of etcat
James schreef: Holly Bostick motub at planet.nl writes: Holly: eix is probably not it, since it looks like it does not show the availability of the package (masked+keyword), but thanks for the suggestion! Actually, it most certainly does; keyworded packages are shown in brown with a ~ in front, masked packages are listed in red with a [M] in front. Of course you can use what suits you best; just wanted to clear up the misconception. Well 'eix zoneminder' shows '~0.9.12 ~1.21.2' both in brown. emerge -s zoneminders shows that it is masked in red and only 1.21.2. is available. Maybe my color scheme is messed up? James According to packages.gentoo.org, both zoneminder 0.9.12 and 1.21.2 are keyword masked, so the output is correct (for x86). Esearch shows only the last version, and doesn't distinguish between hard and keyword masking; perhaps emerge -s is the same. Also, it helps to remember to do an update-eix after an esync, so that new or updated packages are added to the eix database. Other than that, I don't see a problem. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?
David Morgan schreef: You could remove win32codecs from base/use.mask, try and use it and see if it works since it shouldn't break anything. But each time you did emerge sync it'd get written over. Which is why the proper way to unmask a hard-masked package is to enter it into /etc/portage/package.unmask (and often thereafter also into /etc/portage/package.keywords, as many hard-masked packages are also keyword-masked). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?
David Morgan schreef: On 12:06 Wed 13 Jul , Holly Bostick wrote: Which is why the proper way to unmask a hard-masked package is to enter it into /etc/portage/package.unmask (and often thereafter also into /etc/portage/package.keywords, as many hard-masked packages are also keyword-masked). Great, but what does that have to do with USE flags that are masked on a particular profile? What does which profile it is have to do with the mask? /etc/portage/package.unmask unmasks hard-masked applications on the profile you are using-- the profile supercedes all later adjustment files, insofar as all later adjustment files (/etc/make.conf, /etc/portage/whatever) all refer to the profile defaults to know what to adjust. Obviously -- or at least it seems obvious to me, but that doesn't say much-- that if the package is hard-masked, the USE flag that is associated with it will be disabled (because the package the USE flag would call is unavailable). So if the package became available (was unmasked), then I would assume that the USE flag would be enabled, and one could just USE it normally (via /etc/portage/package.use, or /etc/make.conf). There's probably an equivalent for them (/etc/portage/profile/use.unmask at a guess). I suspect that it's masked for a reason though.. Yes, hard masking is always for a reason-- and the fact that you have to go through several steps to install a hard-masked package is, I suspect, for a reason as well. Hard masking means that there are serious problems with the package (under certain conditions, if the package is only hard-masked under certain arches or profiles), and unmasking it via several steps should drive home that you're doing something that you should consider carefully before proceeding with. Hard masking also suggests that testers are needed to nail down the problem, so that the packages can be unmasked-- so by unmasking it, you are tacitly agreeing to be such a tester, and to contribute to b.g.o on the subject after all, if the package has serious problems, you're going to have to deal with them anyway, so you might as well report what you find. If you don't want to have anything to do with such a difficult package, then you shouldn't expend the effort to unmask it... that's why it's masked, so that those who don't want problems never see it at all. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?
David Morgan schreef: (top posting because I can't be bothered to sort all the irrelevant stuff you posted) The person in question is using /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/x86 If you look in /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/x86/parent you'll see that t's parent profile is /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/. If you look in /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/parent you'll see that it's profile is /usr/portage/profiles/base. Now, look in /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.mask That's the reason the win32codecs useflag is masked on this profile, as I explained in an earlier email. But the use.mask-- even the correct one-- still does not lead to an explanation or documentation of what the mask of a USE flag actually means or what it means in this particular case (why this specific USE flag is masked under this specific profile), in such a way that one would know if it was something one had to learn to live with (definitively unresolveable), or was in some way unmaskable. That's the original issue-- is there a way to compile mPlayer using this USE flag under this profile, or is there not? Normally, *.mask files seem to contain some explanation of the reason for the mask (even if only minimal), which is why I was looking through them, but here that does not seem to be the case. Does that mean that the OP is SOL? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown Issues
E. Pereira schreef: During the shutdown Gentoo brings down my eth0 connection, but my computer is connected to a router that uses xDSL for connection, so my questions is: Can I remove this, this way I won't have to reconnect my xDSL connection? Or this shouldn't interfer in my connection I I'm having to reconnect for other reasons? Thanks, e. pereira I'm no network guru (by a long shot), but afaik, and ime (my PC is connected to a router with inbuilt modem), shutting down one PC should not affect the connection for others, because 1) DSL is always on, and 2) your router should be directly connected to the DSL modem, thus unless your PC is turning the modem or the router off somehow (either of which would break the connection), the router should be able to ... route... the Internet connection for the other PCs on the network to the modem. Bringing down eth0 (turning off your PC), should just remove you from the network. That's the whole point of having a router (at least for me; it was driving me nuts that I had no connection whenever my Windows-using bf had to reboot for whatever reason, when we were stuck with software routing through his PC. Now he can have all the BSODs he can stand, and I just continue surfing/emerging/emailing happily, because the routing is handled by a separate piece of hardware that is not affected by the status of our individual PCs). Is this a recent problem, or has it always been like this? Is this a new setup (new equipment, change of ISP/level of membership/type of membership), or has nothing changed recently? HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fbsplash problem !!!
Allan Spagnol Comar schreef: Hi all, Ie been looking at thee gentoo wiki and internet to find out what my problem is but can't find it any where. I installed splash_utils and make the right kernel options and when I try to run splash_util -c on I got this error message FBIOSPLASH_SETSTATE failed, error code 22. Does someone have a clue of what this could be ? Thank you all, Allan I've seen the same or similar error to this-- but only when the following conditions are met: 1) When using the livecd-2005.0 theme (I've installed the livecd-2005.1 theme, but haven't tried it yet) 2) in verbose mode (in silent mode, I get a kernel panic). The cause seems to be that the livecd-2005.0 theme is not complete (no 8bpp images), and while I could probably convert copies of the existing images to 8bpp so that the config would find the images it's looking for, I really can't be bothered to do so atm. Emergence works fine (mostly; slight graphical corruption, possibly due to my ATI card) in both silent and verbose modes. Too bad I don't really like Emergence, but at least it has a matching GDM theme-- which is more than can be said for the livecd themes-- so my boot process has at least a consistent look (if not one I'm most fond of). What version of splashutils, and kernel are you using, and what splash theme? HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error
Stuart Howard schreef: thx for the response I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a hangover from my initial genkernel instalation. Well, there is a compromise solution: /etc/portage/profile/package.provided I don't have a clue what I tried to install that wanted alsa-driver, but I added media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.6a (don't actually have to have a version, afaik, you can just put the package name) to the above-mentioned file, and it never bothered me again. Basically, you're telling Portage that you've handled this-- the package is installed, just not *by* Portage, so it should just trust you. And of course you have installed the package-- when you compiled the kernel, so it's not even like you're lying or anything. The upside of this should be that you can uninstall the alsa-driver package (if it is installed), or do an emerge (-p) --depclean to get rid of it, or remove it from your world file, and no program that depends on it should be disturbed (because you've informed Portage that the equivalent data is available, and Portage trusts you :-) )-- and no package that wants to depend on it in the future should try to install it. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
