Re: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch t ime.. Let FBI take care it..
That wasn't a viewpoint (mine was as I referenced his comment: a moronic, insensitive and careless disregard for life type of comment) Mr. Chong simply feels that his time (and more absurd, his time working!) is more important than the lives of humanity, particularly those that lost it in the WTC. I am surprise that you say that expressing an opinion is dear to Americans, is so then maybe the terrorist were just expressing an opinion??? I don't think so...This is a republic where freedoms end the minute you end a life. I also (as someone else previously on this list) put this guy in the same character lineup as those cowards who committed this heinous act because he thinks his work is more important than letting others express their anger, frustration, powerless frame of mind. This list is a good outlet and if you want this thread gone, simply delete it from your mail or filter it... I personally would like to see the parties responsible for this hunted down and immediately executed, as far as I am concerned they signed their death warrant the minute they thought of this plan... Have you donated blood today? I have and let me tell you, I never heard a single person in the lines I was (over 500 people in one three hours) that says let the FBI take care of it, get back to work. Everyone wanted to release the anger and pain we were suffering. We have friends in NY, I am sure that they wouldn't appreciate Mr. Chong dehumanizing them with the faceless, tactless, and careless guise of simply telling them to go back to work peopleremember pearl harbor? I am very disgusted with the whole thing, I am praying for the folks over in NY and Washington and if there is anything other than donating blood, I am already doing it or thinking about tomorrow to do it May God bless those in his company today... On 9/11/01 9:42 PM, Colin Leeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would have to be the 2nd most stupid thing I have heard today... He has his opinion and you clearly have your own. It is the freedom to have an opinion that Americans and the rest of us in the free world hold dear. He has expressed his opinion and you now have as well. (Does this mean we ask to have you removed from the list?) This occasion has rocked the whole world and we all mourn for those involved and I am sure everyone hopes and prays for a positive solution. Behavior like that exhibited here can not aid in this process. I hope we can all display patience and tolerance for another persons viewpoint. Col PS. I think the majority of the group would like to see an end to this thread. -Original Message- From: Marco Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 2:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too much t ime.. Let FBI take care it.. This guy is a moron, I am shocked at your insensitivity and inhumane attitude, please remove yourself from this list before I ask that you be removedi am serious... On 9/11/01 10:16 AM, Albert Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to works.. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm - Marco A. Martinez Computing Services Coordinator (ITCC) / Microsoft Certified Professional College of Education, California State University, Sacramento. Phone: 916/278.5513 Fax: 916/278.5904 Opinions expressed herein, are solely those of Marco Martinez, and not those of California State University, Sacramento. - http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm - Marco A. Martinez Computing Services Coordinator (ITCC) / Microsoft Certified Professional College of Education, California State University, Sacramento. Phone: 916/278.5513 Fax: 916/278.5904 Opinions expressed herein, are solely those of Marco Martinez, and not those of California State University, Sacramento. - http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch t ime.. Let FBI take care it..
This COWARDLY act is probably the worst I will ever see in my life. The Netherlands is astonished for something as horrorfull this. No one I know can believe that any person(s) can do something this diabolic like this. Palestinians that are partying on the streets should be isolated and need no compassion in the future for any acts of israel. The people who did this, as the news says, fear and disregard our free individualistic countries, and the see us as diabolic. But this is something that only diabolic people can do, without any respect for innocent people. I want to give my compassion to everyone in the US for this is something no one would wish another free country. Lets hope after nostradumus his prophecy came true: In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb , The third big war will begin when the big city is burning Not the one of Shakespeare will be true to: I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. At 11:40 PM 9/11/2001 -0700, you wrote: That wasn't a viewpoint (mine was as I referenced his comment: a moronic, insensitive and careless disregard for life type of comment) Mr. Chong simply feels that his time (and more absurd, his time working!) is more important than the lives of humanity, particularly those that lost it in the WTC. I am surprise that you say that expressing an opinion is dear to Americans, is so then maybe the terrorist were just expressing an opinion??? I don't think so...This is a republic where freedoms end the minute you end a life. I also (as someone else previously on this list) put this guy in the same character lineup as those cowards who committed this heinous act because he thinks his work is more important than letting others express their anger, frustration, powerless frame of mind. This list is a good outlet and if you want this thread gone, simply delete it from your mail or filter it... I personally would like to see the parties responsible for this hunted down and immediately executed, as far as I am concerned they signed their death warrant the minute they thought of this plan... Have you donated blood today? I have and let me tell you, I never heard a single person in the lines I was (over 500 people in one three hours) that says let the FBI take care of it, get back to work. Everyone wanted to release the anger and pain we were suffering. We have friends in NY, I am sure that they wouldn't appreciate Mr. Chong dehumanizing them with the faceless, tactless, and careless guise of simply telling them to go back to work peopleremember pearl harbor? I am very disgusted with the whole thing, I am praying for the folks over in NY and Washington and if there is anything other than donating blood, I am already doing it or thinking about tomorrow to do it May God bless those in his company today... On 9/11/01 9:42 PM, Colin Leeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would have to be the 2nd most stupid thing I have heard today... He has his opinion and you clearly have your own. It is the freedom to have an opinion that Americans and the rest of us in the free world hold dear. He has expressed his opinion and you now have as well. (Does this mean we ask to have you removed from the list?) This occasion has rocked the whole world and we all mourn for those involved and I am sure everyone hopes and prays for a positive solution. Behavior like that exhibited here can not aid in this process. I hope we can all display patience and tolerance for another persons viewpoint. Col PS. I think the majority of the group would like to see an end to this thread. -Original Message- From: Marco Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 2:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too much t ime.. Let FBI take care it.. This guy is a moron, I am shocked at your insensitivity and inhumane attitude, please remove yourself from this list before I ask that you be removedi am serious... On 9/11/01 10:16 AM, Albert Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to works.. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm - Marco A. Martinez Computing Services Coordinator (ITCC) / Microsoft Certified Professional College of Education, California State University, Sacramento. Phone: 916/278.5513 Fax: 916/278.5904 Opinions expressed herein, are solely those of Marco Martinez, and not those of California State University, Sacramento. - http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm - Marco A.
Event ID 5781
Title: RE: Securing Permissions on NT Event Log I sent this earlier, but I think it got lost in the messages from yesterday. Does anyone have a clue as to what causes the following event and how to keep it from happening? I found the write-up in the MS Knowledge base, but it doesn't help much. Event ID: 5781 Source: NETLOGON Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records failed because no DNS servers are available. Data: : 2a 23 00 00 *#.. I have two Win 2K servers acting as general-purpose servers (DNS as well)servers to the Internet for a number of domains. All the DNS zones on both servers are AD enabled.The DNS servers have forwarders enabled,which point to the DNS servers of my ISP. The servershave dual Ethernet connections: One Ethernet is on a segment (209.42.32.x) which connects to the Internet via an SDSL line, the otheris on aback-end LAN (10.1.x.x). Both servers are connected to the SDSL segment and the back-end LAN. Both servers are hosting web, ftp (via IIS), and one server is hosting mail (via Exchange 5.5). Everything seems to be running fine, but the event message is troubling. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Windows 2000 or Windows XP
Sound advice regarding the setting up of a lab and I certainly intend to put my foot down for some lab kit when asked to implement a migration for my company. Have run the client beta of XP a couple of times and although very impressed with the features, feel and especially would could be the invaluable Terminal services running on it, both of my installations ended up in oblivion, just couldn't boot into them one day and after a few efforts couldn't be bothered to salvage them. Probably because it was a beta and not as stable as the released product will hopefully be. Regards, James. Just something to consider. Windows 2002 Server will have some improvements to Active Directory that are worth waiting for if your CO is sizeable and already has an X500/LDAP infrastructure built. We went so far as to test the alpha code to see if it fixed the problems we were seeing with a couple of tweaks recommendations to Mickey$oft, beta code ran the integration fine... (of course, that was in the lab). From a migration stand point, scale up a lab fully, set up 2 BDC's in your current domain, get them stable then pull them out put it in the lab on an isolated network. Promote 1 to PDC and go to town with migration testing. Every installation is unique and this exercise is well worth testing. Also when you're migrating have a back out plan (ie. build a BDC pull it from the network just before you execute). - Original Message - From: Owsley, Kenneth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:53 PM Subject: Windows 2000 or Windows XP : I expecting there are a lot of opinions out there. Please, if you haven't : experienced the migration from NT Server to Windows 2000 Server, please : don't respond. What I am looking for is the advice of the guys and gals : who've done the do, so to speak. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, : please forgive me. : : Having said that, my question is simple: I haven't migrated my NT domain : to Windows 2000 and Active Directory. I am totally jazzed on Windows : 2000, by comparison, so am ready to migrate. Is there any reason to wait : for .NET server or Windows XP Server, or what-the-heck-ever it is called? : You folks that have made the migration, what is your take? Should I go : ahead with my migration, then do the next version when it stabilizes in : the market? : : You guys are in the trenches, and I hope will tell what the trade rags : won't. Or maybe there isn't anything to tell? Thanks! : : http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm : http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
Would just like to add my support from here in the UK. We are obviously very close to the US in many ways and everybody I know, family and colleagues alike, are shocked by the awful events of yesterday. I hope that Bush is pragmatic in his repsonse and in finding the true perpetrators before punishing them in the most severe manner. I certainly feel that he will be acting on behalf of the civilised world in doing so, obviously moreso the US but I live in London and also feel threatened by such fanatics so I feel I am standing shoulder to shoulder with my US friends in spirit. As for all those biblical and Nostradamus predicitions, my own feelings are that they are nearly as warped as those fanatics responsible for yesterdays outrage, we are in control of our own destiny and have been given the gift to shape it. The lunatics who committed yesterdays crime are trying to bring us back to that 2000 year old level of Armageddon prophecies and the like. Condolences to you all in the US, James. Thanks for the expressions of support. Means much to us, knowing that there are lots of others throughout the world who feel the pain, and are supportive. Revelations, Armaggeddon, and Nostradamus have been on my mind lots today. In the City of God there will be a great thunder,=20 Two brothers torn apart by Chaos,=20 while the fortress endures,=20 the great leader will succumb The third big war will begin when the big city is burning - Nostradamus 1654=20 Greg J. Ewy Trilogy Systems 515-964-9505 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Matthew Western [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Hi People, I'd just like to express sadness to all the people in the US effected by the attacks on US. I think it's disgusting and should be punished. While people everywhere are in a state of shock/uncertainty/fear it's worth thinking about where each of us are going to spend our eternal destiny. The Bible predicts basically a World War 3 where everyone will attack Israel and try to wipe them off the face off the earth... Revelation is an interesting book to read through Have a good day (and think about the following excert). Regards Matthew snip http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us toomu ch time.. Let FBI take care it..
Title: Hi, Andrew: Am glad you and all the others in NY made it safely home! I worked on the ground floor of One World Trade Center when I was with CNN...I can only imagine the terror, chaos and destruction at the scene. The TV and radio reports were horrific. But as a native New Yorker and transplanted Bostonian I was also proud to see great acts of courage and selflessness -- like the long lines of people waiting to donate blood!! Like many other Americans -- I have loved ones and friends who work(ed) in the WTC and surrounding area -- we're still trying to get word on some of them. I trust you are staying home today! Best Regards, Laura Laura -Original Message-From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:58 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too much time.. Let FBI take care it.. Only took me 5 hours to get home, via Ferry, two Trains and a car. Thanks to all who showed some concern. == ASB - http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT == "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the abilityto learn from the experience of others, are also remarkablefor their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams -Original Message-From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:19 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch time.. Let FBI take care it.. I can't even imagine having seen that with my own eyes, up close and personal... Video was bad enough... -Original Message-From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:02 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesCc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch time.. Let FBI take care it.. That's easy to say when the tragedy is remote to you. I had the extreme pleasure of looking at the former WTC buildings burning this morning, and now I get the thrill of figuring out how to get back home to NJ from a city that for all intents and purposes is locked down. Forgive me if my definition of WORK does not coincide with yours - ASB-Original Message-From: Albert Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:16 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mucht ime.. Let FBI take care it..Back to works..http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch time.. Let FBI take care it..
Title: Thanks, Laura. Many people have risen to the challenge during this tragedy. I hope you hear good news today regarding your friends and loved ones. I will definitely be at home today. -ASB "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the abilityto learn from the experience of others, are also remarkablefor their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams -Original Message-From: DiDio, Laura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:57 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch time.. Let FBI take care it.. Hi, Andrew: Am glad you and all the others in NY made it safely home! I worked on the ground floor of One World Trade Center when I was with CNN...I can only imagine the terror, chaos and destruction at the scene. The TV and radio reports were horrific. But as a native New Yorker and transplanted Bostonian I was also proud to see great acts of courage and selflessness -- like the long lines of people waiting to donate blood!! Like many other Americans -- I have loved ones and friends who work(ed) in the WTC and surrounding area -- we're still trying to get word on some of them. I trust you are staying home today! Best Regards, Laura Laura -Original Message-From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:58 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too much time.. Let FBI take care it.. Only took me 5 hours to get home, via Ferry, two Trains and a car. Thanks to all who showed some concern. == ASB - http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT == "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the abilityto learn from the experience of others, are also remarkablefor their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams -Original Message-From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:19 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch time.. Let FBI take care it.. I can't even imagine having seen that with my own eyes, up close and personal... Video was bad enough... -Original Message-From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:02 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesCc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch time.. Let FBI take care it.. That's easy to say when the tragedy is remote to you. I had the extreme pleasure of looking at the former WTC buildings burning this morning, and now I get the thrill of figuring out how to get back home to NJ from a city that for all intents and purposes is locked down. Forgive me if my definition of WORK does not coincide with yours - ASB-Original Message-From: Albert Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:16 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mucht ime.. Let FBI take care it..Back to works.. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Strange behaviour - Armada E500
Good afternoon all, We have just purchased 2 new (a week old) Armada E500 laptops (WinNT) and every time they're shut down, (tidily) they both run Auto check on boot up. Was wondering if this is a motherboard problem but2 systems simultaneously??? Your help would be much appreciated. TIA Regards Marie http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
Briefly, because life has to return to something resembling normal, I'd like to say thanks to all those on this list who are not from the US and are expressing condolences and outrage at these attacks. Often, events like this can have the effect of isolating one from the rest of the world. It's important to know that there are only a few extremists out there that harbor these feelings against the U.S. Unfortunately, not everyone killed, especially in the World Trade Center, were U.S. citizens. While I don't always agree with the foreign policy of my country, the only thing this sort of violence achieves is more violence. If there are entities out there that don't like what the U.S. does, then a dialogue must be established. I think that the person or persons behind this attack will find that this galvanizes the American people against them and does little to further their issues or improve the way the US conducts it's foreign policy. I'm lucky in that, it appears, everyone I personally know in the world was unharmed, but not untouched, by this attack. My condolences go to those who are more personally affected by this attack. Heidi http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us toomu ch time.. Let FBI take care it..
Title: Hi, Andrew: Thanks -- everyone I know is OK -- a couple of my colleagues had close family members who worked in WTC and they all got out OK... Enjoy your rare day off and do something nice for yourself and your family -- you deserve it! All the best, Laura -Original Message-From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:01 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch time.. Let FBI take care it.. Thanks, Laura. Many people have risen to the challenge during this tragedy. I hope you hear good news today regarding your friends and loved ones. I will definitely be at home today. -ASB "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the abilityto learn from the experience of others, are also remarkablefor their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams -Original Message-From: DiDio, Laura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:57 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch time.. Let FBI take care it.. Hi, Andrew: Am glad you and all the others in NY made it safely home! I worked on the ground floor of One World Trade Center when I was with CNN...I can only imagine the terror, chaos and destruction at the scene. The TV and radio reports were horrific. But as a native New Yorker and transplanted Bostonian I was also proud to see great acts of courage and selflessness -- like the long lines of people waiting to donate blood!! Like many other Americans -- I have loved ones and friends who work(ed) in the WTC and surrounding area -- we're still trying to get word on some of them. I trust you are staying home today! Best Regards, Laura Laura -Original Message-From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:58 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too much time.. Let FBI take care it.. Only took me 5 hours to get home, via Ferry, two Trains and a car. Thanks to all who showed some concern. == ASB - http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT == "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the abilityto learn from the experience of others, are also remarkablefor their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams -Original Message-From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:19 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch time.. Let FBI take care it.. I can't even imagine having seen that with my own eyes, up close and personal... Video was bad enough... -Original Message-From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:02 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesCc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch time.. Let FBI take care it.. That's easy to say when the tragedy is remote to you. I had the extreme pleasure of looking at the former WTC buildings burning this morning, and now I get the thrill of figuring out how to get back home to NJ from a city that for all intents and purposes is locked down. Forgive me if my definition of WORK does not coincide with yours - ASB-Original Message-From: Albert Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:16 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mucht ime.. Let FBI take care it..Back to works..http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Windows 2000 or Windows XP
I strongly agree with the lab setup, you need more than just the DCs, you need a fair representation of all major systems running that will have interaction with the Domain Controllers/GCs in the new world. I did a 2K setup, but would wait for XP if time permits, unless you have a very simple AD design. XP will have some stuff that may be easier to implement from scratch, AD replication partitioning comes to mind. Good luck, Kevin +---+ Kevin Flanagan C/S Planning Engineer III I/T Implementation Department Branch Banking Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 MC: 172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC 27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 -Original Message- From: James Gosnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 2000 or Windows XP Sound advice regarding the setting up of a lab and I certainly intend to put my foot down for some lab kit when asked to implement a migration for my company. Have run the client beta of XP a couple of times and although very impressed with the features, feel and especially would could be the invaluable Terminal services running on it, both of my installations ended up in oblivion, just couldn't boot into them one day and after a few efforts couldn't be bothered to salvage them. Probably because it was a beta and not as stable as the released product will hopefully be. Regards, James. Just something to consider. Windows 2002 Server will have some improvements to Active Directory that are worth waiting for if your CO is sizeable and already has an X500/LDAP infrastructure built. We went so far as to test the alpha code to see if it fixed the problems we were seeing with a couple of tweaks recommendations to Mickey$oft, beta code ran the integration fine... (of course, that was in the lab). From a migration stand point, scale up a lab fully, set up 2 BDC's in your current domain, get them stable then pull them out put it in the lab on an isolated network. Promote 1 to PDC and go to town with migration testing. Every installation is unique and this exercise is well worth testing. Also when you're migrating have a back out plan (ie. build a BDC pull it from the network just before you execute). - Original Message - From: Owsley, Kenneth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:53 PM Subject: Windows 2000 or Windows XP : I expecting there are a lot of opinions out there. Please, if you haven't : experienced the migration from NT Server to Windows 2000 Server, please : don't respond. What I am looking for is the advice of the guys and gals : who've done the do, so to speak. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, : please forgive me. : : Having said that, my question is simple: I haven't migrated my NT domain : to Windows 2000 and Active Directory. I am totally jazzed on Windows : 2000, by comparison, so am ready to migrate. Is there any reason to wait : for .NET server or Windows XP Server, or what-the-heck-ever it is called? : You folks that have made the migration, what is your take? Should I go : ahead with my migration, then do the next version when it stabilizes in : the market? : : You guys are in the trenches, and I hope will tell what the trade rags : won't. Or maybe there isn't anything to tell? Thanks! : : http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm : http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
FW: Re: Windows 2000 or Windows XP
Take a look at ZDNet Eweek's reviews of XP Gold, they relaxed the WPA (Windoze Product Activation) quite a bit. If you're under a Select or Enterprise agreement with Mickey$oft, you won't have to activate the product. - Original Message - From: T. Bradley Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:23 PM Subject: RE: Windows 2000 or Windows XP : I waited until Win2k was out for about a year and then began upgrading my : servers from NT4. I've got 3 NT4 servers left and I can't wait to get to : them. Win2k is faster, more stable, and easier to administrate. : : As for clients, new machines and rebuilds are done as Win2k. Older : (existing) clients are left as NT4 unless they must run Win2k. : : As for XP, unless they change the licensing I won't be upgrading. NT Admin : is work enough without having to tell MS every time I re-install an OS. : : ~Brad : : -Original Message- : From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:53 PM : To: NT System Admin Issues : Subject: RE: Windows 2000 or Windows XP : : : Clients, Yes wait for XP. : Servers not really there will be a ton more tools for Ad management but : not enough to wait for what you gain. : : -Original Message- : From: Owsley, Kenneth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:54 PM : To: NT System Admin Issues : Subject: Windows 2000 or Windows XP : : : I expecting there are a lot of opinions out there. Please, if you : haven't experienced the migration from NT Server to Windows 2000 Server, : please don't respond. What I am looking for is the advice of the guys : and gals who've done the do, so to speak. I don't mean to sound like a : jerk, please forgive me. : : Having said that, my question is simple: I haven't migrated my NT : domain to Windows 2000 and Active Directory. I am totally jazzed on : Windows 2000, by comparison, so am ready to migrate. Is there any : reason to wait for .NET server or Windows XP Server, or : what-the-heck-ever it is called? : You folks that have made the migration, what is your take? Should I go : ahead with my migration, then do the next version when it stabilizes in : the market? : : You guys are in the trenches, and I hope will tell what the trade rags : won't. Or maybe there isn't anything to tell? Thanks! : : http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm : : : http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm : : : : http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm : http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01
Title: Message While everyone here has their own issues, I'd really rather you keep nut cases and their agendas out of the list. +---+ Kevin Flanagan C/S Planning Engineer III I/T Implementation Department Branch Banking Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 MC: 172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC 27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 -Original Message-From: Wendell Cotton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:54 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01 I agree. -Original Message-From: Ron Brandon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:45 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01 I don't think so at all. He is merely warning of potential issues that would have monumental consequences should they come about. -Original Message- From: Mier, Juan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01 Hideously enough, my new novel _The American Zone_, scheduled to be published next November by Tor Books, begins with an act very similar to this one, carried out to force Uh He's trying to sell his new book now? http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
windows 2000 Backup program
Hi group i'm confused on this one, got a windows 200 machine with 2 drives both drives having 2 paritions, trying to back up 5.5GB of data from HD2 to a partition on HD1 that has 7.7GB free space using NTBackup so that i can use convert.exe on hd2 and convert it to a NTFS drive as its fat32 at the moment, but when i run the backup it gets to about 4.5GB and says out of space on target device, but as my maths can see its got plenty of space ? any answers would be great. Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, Gareth, MCP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: To Mr. Hornbuckle, non-U.S. Citizen
Title: Message I am an American citizen. In my message, I was responding to someone else who was not one. John -Original Message-From: Normand Dionne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:16 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: To Mr. Hornbuckle, non-U.S. Citizen I see Perry FL in your address Mr. Hornbuckle. Like through the internet, everything that happens in this world touches everyone else. It is still my hope that direct communications from the one to the many via the internet would help end this sort of violence in pursuit of senseless nationalistic identities which are valued more than the people they are supposed to benefit. This is not about highly religious values of one group over another. The people who did this and those who supported this are simply greedy for power themselves. They sacrifice the integrity of their souls in doing this and drag a great number of the unsuspecting with them. It is my further hope that our response, the response of those who are American Citizens and who believe in the freedoms which again today show their true cost, will not become terrorists themselves, sweeping both the guilty and innocent away in broad undisciplined strokes. So let this American state for the record today that I am a Citizen of the World. If you are not an American Citizen, please join in with me as Citizen of the World. My prayers go to the victims, to those who must now react and to those who did this, for those who did this will pay a dear price. Normand DionneUH HiloAcademic Computing Services808-974-7768 (Voice and FAX) -Original Message-From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:01 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack like many on this list, I'm not American. Oh, so this doesn't affect you? Think again! John HornbuckleNetwork ManagerTaylor County School District318 North Clark StreetPerry, FL 32347 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: O/T Red Cross online donations
You can also donate through Amazon.com. Go to www.amazon.com. Malcolm -Original Message- From: Jan Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: O/T Red Cross online donations For us non Americans you can donate funds online to the Red Cross @ http://www.redcross.org/ The site is congested but you will get though if you stick with it. To our American friends - you are in our thoughts and prayers. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: OT? perspective of events
~ In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. ~ To me, this is the worse thing about terrorism. We lose what we cherish, and that is freedom. And many will accept this, because they think it will be better -- but it won't. A wise man once said: They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin == ASB - http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT == A nickel isn't worth a dime today. -- Yogi Berra. -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore. Today, I'm willing to accept some software black-box scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all for them. Many of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: INTERNET MONITORING
Title: INTERNET MONITORING I currently use Surf control and highly recommend it. However if you have more time on your hands than money. Just use crystal reports (or something similar) and you can build your own reports off your proxy servers logs on usage data. This is whatI did for 3 years before purchasing Surf control. Matt Wehnes System Administrator Morton Machining MFG [Matt Wehnes]-Original Message-From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:01 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: INTERNET MONITORING Try surfcontrol -Original Message-From: Freeman, Caine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: September 11, 2001 8:34 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: INTERNET MONITORING Hi All, I administer an NT 4 network accross 3 domains (Sydney, Melbourne Brisbane) connected through 2 VPN Tunnels. Our internet bill has recently spiked and I want to know why. Does anybody know a program I can implement to monitor peoples usage of the internet, programs accessing and downloading data? Regards Caine http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Silicon Valley salary
Geez, and I thought the 40-minute communte I just picked up on my move to Houston was bad (it was 10 minutes at my previous job). Malcolm -Original Message- From: Diane Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silicon Valley salary My husband works 2/3 in Silicon Valley and 1/3 in Southern Calif. because the cost of living up there is so expensive and housing is so outrageous! You may get paid alot but when it takes 1 1/2 hours to travel 30 miles because you can't afford to live close to work it isn't worth it. Most of the companies up there buy dinner every night for their employees because most of them don't go home til 8 or 9 pm because of traffic. Some of the people in his office sleep on futons in their office 3 to 4 days aweek instead of going home. Something to consider Diane -Original Message- From: Markus Laker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Silicon Valley salary Once the authorities get around to processing visa applications again, and once the airports reopen, my employer is planning to move me from its UK office here in Bracknell to its San Jose office for a couple of years. Marvellous timing, I know. Salary negotiations are beginning in earnest. Most of the Californian job sites I can find don't mention salaries these days (surprise, surprise). What does a competent C++ developer earn in Silicon Valley these days? Thanks and regards, Markus http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01
What a whack job. Heck, http://www.xdude.com gave a more reasoned response. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: FW: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01 Fellow Sysadmins; Some of you may recognize the author of the piece below. For those of you who don't, he's a recognized science fiction author, and a lesser-known political writer, with a number of books published in each field. I hope you find it interesting, and keep his cautions in mind when evaluating the actions of not only the US goverment, but also other governments and other organizations as well. Kurt --- From: L. Neil Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:41:57 -0600 Subject:MORNING OF HORROR MORNING OF HORROR By L. Neil Smith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Special to _The Libertarian Enterpise_ http://www.webleyweb.com/lneil First of all, expect never to learn the truth about what happened at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and elsewhere this morning of September 11, 2001, any more than we did with regard to the murders of Jack and Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, at Ruby Ridge, Waco, or Oklahoma City. Ambiguity and uncertainty serve far too many political interests. Another certainty is that, although I'm told 50,000 people worked in the World Trade Center, more innocent individuals will die as a result of what the Old Media are lovingly referring to as a lockdown of Manhattan and other places, than any acts of terrorism that may have occurred. The military has just said they'll shoot down any plane they see flying. Only one civilian plane is in the air this morning, Air Force One; that's as grim a warning of things to come as I can think of. Collateral deaths won't just happen as a consequence, say, of somebody with a heart attack being unable to get to a hospital, but whenever and wherever some dumb kid in an army uniform gets startled by a car backfiring and starts spraying everybody and his pet poodle with automatic rifle fire. Or to whomever the martial lawyers decide it's safe to liquidate using this foul mess as a cover. Or, vastly more ominously, to people in the not-so-distant future who decide they must resist the police state that will inevitably result from these events. It's extremely difficult to think coherently about long term effects, let alone to get it all down in writing, when you learn that, not only were hijacked commercial aircraft used to commit these unspeakably evil acts, but that 90 passengers died helplessly in the first plane, and others yet unnumbered may have died in subsequent attacks. _Somebody_ has to think about it, though, or this situation will be used to turn the Bill of Rights off forever. Depending on the planning behind it, or who did the planning, it may already be too late. All airports have been shut down today, and I shudder to think about what flying will be like from now on. The Clintons, Schumers, and Waxmans will try to shut down the Internet, calling it a breeding ground for terrorism. The Bushes and Cheneys will reluctantly go along. Rush Limbaugh will cheer them on. What should those who value their freedom do? Every chance you have, from this moment on, whether it's on talk radio, or on the letters to the editor page, on the Internet while it's still possible, or in communication with everyone you know -- it's time for even the most apolitical to write to senators and congressmen -- emphasize two points: First, inform them that closing down the First or Second or any other Amendment is not an appropriate response to what's happened, and that any politician or bureaucrat in office who attempts to capitalize on today's horrors is committing the same sort of blatantly criminal act I've always insisted must be punished under Bill of Rights enforcement. Second, these things happen to nations with imperial ambitions. There has never been a major act of terrorism I know of that hasn't resulted from an act of government that violated somebody's rights. The way to keep this sort of thing from happening again is to stop those violations. Hideously enough, my new novel _The American Zone_, scheduled to be published next November by Tor Books, begins with an act very similar to this one, carried out to force the creation of a strong central government in the governmentless North American Confederacy that figures in so many of my books. As anybody who knows my work can safely predict, the evil scheme doesn't work and the villains are defeated. Life isn't as predictably pleasant as fiction. Happy endings are few and far between. But it's important to act swiftly if we're to preserve anything resembling the freedom that made this civilization great. Pass the word. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RUMORS CONCERNING THE PRICE OF GAS AND LINES AT GAS STATIONS
For those of you who posted RUMORS of gas lines and rising prices for gasoline, consider yourself part of OUR enemy. PLEASE, PLEASE post only information that you personally know to be factual. So here are the facts from the Northern Suburbs of Chicago, where our gas prices are among the highest in the U.S. I reported yesterday that a gas station near my office was at $2.09 for a gallon of premium on my way into work yesterday morning. However, when I went out for lunch, the price had DROPPED to $1.99 per gallon. After all the RUMORS yesterday and the fact that I had less than a quarter of a tank of gas in my car, I was somewhat concerned. But at 5:00PM that gas station near my office was STILL at $1.99 per gallon and to my surprise, NO LINES! I figured that since I pass several gas stations on my way home, I'd take a chance that the RUMORS were bulls**t and wait to fill at the station near my home. Well, every gas station I passed had the same pricing as in the morning and there were NO LINES to be seen. Finally, I came to the gas station near my home, and the price of gas hadn't changed and there were NO LINES, so I pulled in and filled up as usual. So for those of you who are willing to pass rumors and join our enemies in battle, I suggest you have an opportunity to leave the enemy and rejoin us who are lucky enough to live in the greatest land of all. And the way to do that is to check the facts before posting erroneous information and contributing to what could have been a real panic in the U.S. Murray F. (how long will I have to use this signature so as not to be confused with Murray B. in Canada) http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Title: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack This is an excellent article that I've shared with my fellow IT staff members - makes me proud to be an American. Carolyn Ramsey Texoma HealthCare System Denison, Tx MIS Support 903-416-4175 -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack That is a famous article by one of Canada's best journalists. William -Original Message- From: Bartolini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon-not once, but several times-and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those. Stand proud, America! - Original Message - From: Luke Brumbaugh To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Thank you, I beleive it was another Canadian who stood up and said How America (United States) was always the first to help other countries in distress, but who helps them when they were in a crisis. It's nice to have FRIENDS up north. I applaud you sir. -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Murray, believe me they will (US). I am a Canadian saying this. If you knew what happens around the world you wouldn't say this. Any natural catastrophe or otherwise in any part of the world, America is the first one to respond. If you don't know ask people who were torn by earthquakes in Turkey, India, Mexico - - -. Don't get into hair splitting exercise. Mal -Original Message- From: Murray Binette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I
RE: Attack and Gas Prices
Title: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Gas prices in the Midwest rose sharply before the Labor Day weekend. We were paying $1.96 for 87 unleaded octane. All day yesterday it was down to 1.67. This morning it's back up to almost 2 bucks. Lines were long at the pumps in La Crosse, WI but Winona, MN hasn't panicked yet. I think most people are taking a "wait and see" attitude. -Original Message- From: RAMSEY, CAROLYN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Price gouching (raising prices for pure greed) has been declared illegal in TX and OK, attorney generals have sworn to prosecute as needed and reported. Lines were long yesterday, but only heard about 10 cent increases. Carolyn Ramsey Texoma HealthCare System Denison, Texas 75020 MIS Support 903-416-4175 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Exactly. It is pure greed. There is no shortage. There is no reason to oil to be held up. There is no reason to raise the price. It is pure greed -Original Message- From: Senter, John M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices There is no reason for the gas price to jump, except the greed of people to try and make money off of other peoples loss. It makes me sick on how some people try and make money. js -Original Message- From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Oklahoma city supposedly. Topeka KS, 5.00 a gallon... I'm not sure, I haven't been out yet. Guess I'll run out and fill up in case... -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Like where ... -Original Message- From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 16:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Attack and Gas Prices Can anyone confirm that gas prices are going up around the country? Supposedly it's around $6.00 a gallon already in some places... http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: OT? perspective of events
I don't know how I feel about stuff like that yet. I think some of it may be warranted (we already know that any phone conversation basically can be recorded based on a myriad of words that are said). I think that the same type of thing monitoring e-mail would not be noticed by most. I think though, that if we were all told the extent of spying that the FBI already does, legally or illegally, we probably would be shocked. I almost think that things like that are better off kept silent. what the people don't know won't hurt them type of attitude. It's gonna get really interesting for a while here. As someone else said, we are in for a bit of a bumpy ride. As a side note, although I was not directly affected by the horrible acts that took place yesterday (no relatives), we will all be affected by this dastardly deed for a long time to come. My heart goes out to those who have experienced a loss. Even today, I still am in shock at what happened. At the same time, let us pray that our leaders make informed and wise decisions in the aftermath of what has happened. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore. Today, I'm willing to accept some software black-box scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all for them. Many of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: windows 2000 Backup program
I've never used NTBACKUP so I don't know what the problem is. Why don't you just make a Directory on HD1 call HD2 and use xcopy or move to transfer the data from hd2 to hd1. Just an idea. Matt Wehnes System Administrator Morton Machining MFG -Original Message- From: Gareth Campling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: windows 2000 Backup program Hi group i'm confused on this one, got a windows 200 machine with 2 drives both drives having 2 paritions, trying to back up 5.5GB of data from HD2 to a partition on HD1 that has 7.7GB free space using NTBackup so that i can use convert.exe on hd2 and convert it to a NTFS drive as its fat32 at the moment, but when i run the backup it gets to about 4.5GB and says out of space on target device, but as my maths can see its got plenty of space ? any answers would be great. Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, Gareth, MCP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Attack and Gas Prices
Title: RE: Attack and Gas Prices What? 87: 1.69 89: 1.79 93: 1.79 I got 93 this morning for the first time in a year. -Original Message-From: Laura Swartout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:49 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Gas prices in the Midwest rose sharply before the Labor Day weekend. We were paying $1.96 for 87 unleaded octane. All day yesterday it was down to 1.67. This morning it's back up to almost 2 bucks. Lines were long at the pumps in La Crosse, WI but Winona, MN hasn't panicked yet. I think most people are taking a "wait and see" attitude. -Original Message-From: RAMSEY, CAROLYN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:26 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Price gouching (raising prices for pure greed) has been declared illegal in TX and OK, attorney generals have sworn to prosecute as needed and reported. Lines were long yesterday, but only heard about 10 cent increases. Carolyn Ramsey Texoma HealthCare System Denison, Texas 75020 MIS Support 903-416-4175 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Exactly. It is pure greed. There is no shortage. There is no reason to oil to be held up. There is no reason to raise the price. It is pure greed -Original Message- From: Senter, John M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices There is no reason for the gas price to jump, except the greed of people to try and make money off of other peoples loss. It makes me sick on how some people try and make money. js -Original Message- From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Oklahoma city supposedly. Topeka KS, 5.00 a gallon... I'm not sure, I haven't been out yet. Guess I'll run out and fill up in case... -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Like where ... -Original Message- From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 16:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Attack and Gas Prices Can anyone confirm that gas prices are going up around the country? Supposedly it's around $6.00 a gallon already in some places... http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Attack and Gas Prices
Hey Denison - been there lots of times! In IL, the Governer and AG were taken by surprise as prices in central IL were jacked up to $3-5! Supposedly it's come down a bit since then, but not all the way down to the already too high $1.85. Neither the Gov nor the AG were at all amused by this... At 08:25 AM 9/12/2001 -0500, you wrote: Price gouching (raising prices for pure greed) has been declared illegal in TX and OK, attorney generals have sworn to prosecute as needed and reported. Lines were long yesterday, but only heard about 10 cent increases. Carolyn Ramsey Texoma HealthCare System Denison, Texas 75020 MIS Support http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: OT? perspective of events
Title: RE: OT? perspective of events FYI. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/21516.html Echelon exists and is in use http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/57/21626.html FBI using Carnivore listening boxes on the net. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 14:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events I don't know how I feel about stuff like that yet. I think some of it may be warranted (we already know that any phone conversation basically can be recorded based on a myriad of words that are said). I think that the same type of thing monitoring e-mail would not be noticed by most. I think though, that if we were all told the extent of spying that the FBI already does, legally or illegally, we probably would be shocked. I almost think that things like that are better off kept silent. what the people don't know won't hurt them type of attitude. It's gonna get really interesting for a while here. As someone else said, we are in for a bit of a bumpy ride. As a side note, although I was not directly affected by the horrible acts that took place yesterday (no relatives), we will all be affected by this dastardly deed for a long time to come. My heart goes out to those who have experienced a loss. Even today, I still am in shock at what happened. At the same time, let us pray that our leaders make informed and wise decisions in the aftermath of what has happened. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore. Today, I'm willing to accept some software black-box scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all for them. Many of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: windows 2000 Backup program
Have you tried Partition Magic to see what it shows? -Original Message- From: Gareth Campling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: windows 2000 Backup program Hi group i'm confused on this one, got a windows 200 machine with 2 drives both drives having 2 paritions, trying to back up 5.5GB of data from HD2 to a partition on HD1 that has 7.7GB free space using NTBackup so that i can use convert.exe on hd2 and convert it to a NTFS drive as its fat32 at the moment, but when i run the backup it gets to about 4.5GB and says out of space on target device, but as my maths can see its got plenty of space ? any answers would be great. Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, Gareth, MCP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: RUMORS CONCERNING THE PRICE OF GAS?
What rumors??? Be glad you didn't have enough gas to experience the rude and cruelty of downstate! Supposedly prices are now only slightly higher than yesterday, but the long lines to get $3 gas before it went to $5 were REAL! I saw it myself in the Urbana area, and the Peoria paper says the same happened in Bloomington and Peoria. Be thankful it didn't happen in CHI, and watch your tone. Thanks! At 08:46 AM 9/12/2001 -0500, you wrote: For those of you who posted RUMORS of gas lines [snip] and rising prices for gasoline, consider yourself part of OUR enemy. PLEASE, PLEASE post only information that you personally know to be factual. [snip] to check the facts before posting erroneous information and contributing to what could have been a real panic in the U.S. [snip] -- Richard http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: OT? perspective of events
Title: RE: OT? perspective of events There's another item on The Register which puts the whole event into it's proper "international" perspective http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/57/21615.html -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 14:59To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: OT? perspective of events FYI. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/21516.html Echelon exists and is in use http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/57/21626.html FBI using Carnivore listening boxes on the net. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 14:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events I don't know how I feel about stuff like that yet. I think some of it may be warranted (we already know that any phone conversation basically can be recorded based on a myriad of words that are said). I think that the same type of thing monitoring e-mail would not be noticed by most. I think though, that if we were all told the extent of "spying" that the FBI already does, legally or illegally, we probably would be shocked. I almost think that things like that are better off kept silent. "what the people don't know won't hurt them" type of attitude. It's gonna get really interesting for a while here. As someone else said, we are in for a bit of a bumpy ride. As a side note, although I was not directly affected by the horrible acts that took place yesterday (no relatives), we will all be affected by this dastardly deed for a long time to come. My heart goes out to those who have experienced a loss. Even today, I still am in shock at what happened. At the same time, let us pray that our leaders make informed and wise decisions in the aftermath of what has happened. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore. Today, I'm willing to accept some software "black-box" scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all for them. Many of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you.It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately oraccidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where thecommunication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium.This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses.http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm * If you receive this e-mail in error, please contact +44 20 7280 5500. The information contained in this e-mail and in the attachments if any, is confidential. Unauthorised use, disclosure, printing, forwarding or copying is strictly prohibited. * http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Attack and Gas Prices
I was paying 1.10 in GA last month when I was there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Prices here in Savannah, GA are still the same as well: $1.39, $1.49, $159. Kevin Miller Kevinm@advancedpcsolu To: NT System Admin Issues tions.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 09/11/2001 05:10 PM Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Please respond to NT System Admin Issues Buy me 50 gallons, fax it to me .. I will sell it we can split the profit : -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Wow. I looked outside. Still $1.42/1.52/1.62 here in Las Vegas, NV. -Original Message- From: Witt, Michael S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices A guy in our office (little rock, AR) got a call from a friend who owns a gas station, saying that Texaco HQ had sent out messages to prepare for a price change to take effect as early as this afternoon, and to expect the price to be at least double current. 20 min later (10 min ago) our secretary gets a call from her husband reporting that gas lines are around the corner at over 7 stations he's tried to stop at, 2 stations had already posted no gas left signs and that the avg price he's seen so far is $5 per gallon. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Attack and Gas Prices
The lowest the price got here in Savannah was $1.19 for 87 Octane. Kevin Miller Kevinm@advancedpcsolu To: NT System Admin Issues tions.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 09/12/2001 10:08 AM Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Please respond to NT System Admin Issues I was paying 1.10 in GA last month when I was there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Prices here in Savannah, GA are still the same as well: $1.39, $1.49, $159. Kevin Miller Kevinm@advancedpcsolu To: NT System Admin Issues tions.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 09/11/2001 05:10 PM Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Please respond to NT System Admin Issues Buy me 50 gallons, fax it to me .. I will sell it we can split the profit : -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Wow. I looked outside. Still $1.42/1.52/1.62 here in Las Vegas, NV. -Original Message- From: Witt, Michael S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices A guy in our office (little rock, AR) got a call from a friend who owns a gas station, saying that Texaco HQ had sent out messages to prepare for a price change to take effect as early as this afternoon, and to expect the price to be at least double current. 20 min later (10 min ago) our secretary gets a call from her husband reporting that gas lines are around the corner at over 7 stations he's tried to stop at, 2 stations had already posted no gas left signs and that the avg price he's seen so far is $5 per gallon. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Event ID 5781
Title: Message turn off the forwarding. make one of the DDNS servers the primary. have all machines point to it as there primary, run netdiag /test:dns /fix against that server make sure DNS is working right. and play with the bind order on your servers that have more then one nic. -Original Message-From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:33 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Event ID 5781 I sent this earlier, but I think it got lost in the messages from yesterday. Does anyone have a clue as to what causes the following event and how to keep it from happening? I found the write-up in the MS Knowledge base, but it doesn't help much. Event ID: 5781 Source: NETLOGON Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records failed because no DNS servers are available. Data: : 2a 23 00 00 *#.. I have two Win 2K servers acting as general-purpose servers (DNS as well)servers to the Internet for a number of domains. All the DNS zones on both servers are AD enabled.The DNS servers have forwarders enabled,which point to the DNS servers of my ISP. The servershave dual Ethernet connections: One Ethernet is on a segment (209.42.32.x) which connects to the Internet via an SDSL line, the otheris on aback-end LAN (10.1.x.x). Both servers are connected to the SDSL segment and the back-end LAN. Both servers are hosting web, ftp (via IIS), and one server is hosting mail (via Exchange 5.5). Everything seems to be running fine, but the event message is troubling. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01
Title: Message I concur with the nutcase label. -Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:57 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01 While everyone here has their own issues, I'd really rather you keep nut cases and their agendas out of the list. +---+ Kevin Flanagan C/S Planning Engineer III I/T Implementation Department Branch Banking Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 MC: 172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC 27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 -Original Message-From: Wendell Cotton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:54 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01 I agree. -Original Message-From: Ron Brandon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:45 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01 I don't think so at all. He is merely warning of potential issues that would have monumental consequences should they come about. -Original Message- From: Mier, Juan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01 Hideously enough, my new novel _The American Zone_, scheduled to be published next November by Tor Books, begins with an act very similar to this one, carried out to force Uh He's trying to sell his new book now? http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: RUMORS CONCERNING THE PRICE OF GAS?
I hope you guys in the Bloomington? Peoria area remember which gas stations were gouging when things go back to normal. Those people are the enemy too! Murray F. -Original Message- From: Richard McClary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RUMORS CONCERNING THE PRICE OF GAS? What rumors??? Be glad you didn't have enough gas to experience the rude and cruelty of downstate! Supposedly prices are now only slightly higher than yesterday, but the long lines to get $3 gas before it went to $5 were REAL! I saw it myself in the Urbana area, and the Peoria paper says the same happened in Bloomington and Peoria. Be thankful it didn't happen in CHI, and watch your tone. Thanks! At 08:46 AM 9/12/2001 -0500, you wrote: For those of you who posted RUMORS of gas lines [snip] and rising prices for gasoline, consider yourself part of OUR enemy. PLEASE, PLEASE post only information that you personally know to be factual. [snip] to check the facts before posting erroneous information and contributing to what could have been a real panic in the U.S. [snip] -- Richard http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators
Hi, Does anyone know of a way to let regular users (non administrators) change the Win2K IP addresses only? Basically my laptop users travel to offices which do not all use DHCP hence require manual IP change. I am able to use netsh to change the IP but this requires admin rights which I do not want to do. Thanks. This communication is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information which is proprietary or confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient (or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and return it to us by mail. We will reimburse you for any expense incurred. We may record and or monitor telephone calls made to us by any person, to enable us to keep accurate records and to deal with queries. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: A few thoughts on today's events
On your second point What matters is why... I disagree. Evil, and I think we might all agree that what happened was evil, will succeed if good and righteous people do nothing. For all of your arguments to prevail you must accept the premise that both the perpetrator and the victims of these events are morally equivalent. I am willing to say that all nations who abhor terrorists and will not give aid and comfort to them ARE morally superior to those who do tolerate it. Tom Cass Personal opinions -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: A few thoughts on today's events First: Thanks to those outside of the US who have expressed concern and support. It is much appreciated. I don't live anywhere near NYC, but as a US citizen and a simple human being I am distraught by these events, and wish the best for those who've been affected. As usual, people across America have mostly responded by trying to comfort and care for those who have been directly affected by the attack. It's not for nothing that citizens of the US are known as the most generous in the world, and the most practical. Erik Goldoff's forwarded post from his IT director is spot on, and also much appreciated. Second: It does not matter, in some senses, who did this. What matters is why it happened. While steps do need to be taken to detect and punish the perpetrators, this problem will not fade simply because the US will have (probably) killed whoever did this. In many places across the world, the US is hated, and with reason. The US government has since World War II been instrumental in destabilizing many democratically elected regimes, and has sided with tyrants and dictators, so long as they supported US foreign policy, or were willing to be puppets. The main target for many years was Communism, although after the Berlin wall fell the focus changed, and has continued to change, to whatever enemy of the day is fixated upon. Cuba, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden, PFLP, DFLP, etc., etc., etc. are all targets now, but whether now or in the past, the US government has pursued its ends with means that are not in keeping with the stated values that most Americans cherish and profess to believe. American foreign policy has tried to direct events and attitudes across the world, but it has often not had a coherent aim, usually trying simply to keep a lid on various situations, or trying to reward those who have toed our line. Its overseas agenda has been chaotic, perverse and inexplicable. We will suffer more for it. The easiest example is right now the most relevant - Israel and the Palestinians. I won't try to say who is right or wrong in that conflict, but suffice it to say there is blame enough for both sides, and the US government has been neck-deep in it. Worse, the US government has sent conflicting signals since the beginning. It's overly simplistic to say that we are hated because we have tried to be the world's policeman. If we were only that, we would have far fewer problems. The problem is that we are the corrupt cop on the world beat; sometimes meddling where we shouldn't, sometimes turning a blind eye where we shouldn't, often picking on the wrong party in a conflict, and in general being ham-handed and incompetent in the patrolling of our self-appointed rounds and the execution of our self-appointed duties. I'll make one last point here, which has been stated elsewhere - I don't believe that you can find a large terrorist attack anywhere that wasn't sparked by some long-standing pattern of government interference where it wasn't wanted and wasn't justified. If the US government hadn't elected itself the world's policeman, this wouldn't have happened. Still on point, if the US government hadn't been such a corrupt cop, this probably wouldn't have happened, although it possibly might still have. That's harder to discern. Whether or not we should be the world's policeman is a separate matter, but if we must be, we should be a good cop, not a bad cop. Third: The fallout from this outside of realm of the immediate (i.e., our military/political response to the actual attack) is going to take a long time to see. Economically speaking, the WTC housed some really influential firms, and major offices for many more. People are worrying about gas prices, among other things. You should be aware that fluctuations in commodity prices will fluctuate for a while, and that gold and oil prices will rise for a while - mainly because they are real stores of value, and are, er, liquid assets. Longer term, there may be flight of capital from the US because of loss of confidence in the security of the country. Or not. There may be serious erosion of civil liberties. Or not. I'd bet on the former in each case, but I hope for the latter. However, I believe that that the longer-term effects will be
RE: OT? perspective of events
I read about this. It's a NT box running a kinda Sniffer software. I have used sniffer, the log gets incredibly big in a short period of time. So, the idea of scanning an ip address or email header for certain patterns would only be possible. Wiretaps are common, but you can only monitor so many phones at a time. Same here with email and this Carnivore black box. So you ask yourself, are you doing something to be afraid of? If not, then why worry, sniffer doesn't work well on switched networks and as for internet, only terrorist and child pornographers have something to worry about. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events I don't know how I feel about stuff like that yet. I think some of it may be warranted (we already know that any phone conversation basically can be recorded based on a myriad of words that are said). I think that the same type of thing monitoring e-mail would not be noticed by most. I think though, that if we were all told the extent of spying that the FBI already does, legally or illegally, we probably would be shocked. I almost think that things like that are better off kept silent. what the people don't know won't hurt them type of attitude. It's gonna get really interesting for a while here. As someone else said, we are in for a bit of a bumpy ride. As a side note, although I was not directly affected by the horrible acts that took place yesterday (no relatives), we will all be affected by this dastardly deed for a long time to come. My heart goes out to those who have experienced a loss. Even today, I still am in shock at what happened. At the same time, let us pray that our leaders make informed and wise decisions in the aftermath of what has happened. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore. Today, I'm willing to accept some software black-box scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all for them. Many of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm Enterprise Channel Management Software for Manufacturers Visit us at http://www.ultryx.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators
Title: RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators either give them local admin access to their workstation or you can set up a local policy using the MMC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 15:23 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators Hi, Does anyone know of a way to let regular users (non administrators) change the Win2K IP addresses only? Basically my laptop users travel to offices which do not all use DHCP hence require manual IP change. I am able to use netsh to change the IP but this requires admin rights which I do not want to do. Thanks. This communication is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information which is proprietary or confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient (or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and return it to us by mail. We will reimburse you for any expense incurred. We may record and or monitor telephone calls made to us by any person, to enable us to keep accurate records and to deal with queries. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: OT? perspective of events
First of all I would like to express my heartfelt sadness for those who lost friends, family and collegues to this disaster. May it be a reminder to all Americans and other democratic countries around the world that there is a REAL threat to freedom and capitolism, and the need for a strong military presence is necessary, for no other reason that to be used as a deterrant for such activity in the future. May we also not forget the loss of military personel in the Pentagon, who by the nature of thier job put themselves at risk everyday to defend us against these kinds of threats. While they may not have been able to forsee this attack, who can know how many countless attempts were foiled by our intelligence agencies. May we all stand united behind our president and country to see us through such a horrible and devistating tragedy. While everybody agrees that some sort of response is warranted, let us not forget that part of the responsibility of being the only superpower in the world carries the burden of not responding in the same cowardly fashon. We need to have a swift and deliberate response to this, but also be sure that those who are targeted are those who are responsible. America has to display discipline in this kind of situatuion not a knee jerk reaction that would reflect the acts of a 3 year old having a tantrom. As for mail sniffing I am in total opposition to this kind of technology to be in use. This steps on the very fringes that makes this country free. The thing that worries me the most is the ramifications of such systems being in use, it could easily be turned against us if they were to fall into the wrong hands. It could also lead to unwarranted harrassment for those that are undeserving. Just as in military operations, I'm sure that if email was used as a tool for communications to coordinate something like what happened yesterday, I'd bet that cryptic messages were sent between parties that were involved so that even if there were a method in place to ping on key words, that kind of traffic would probably never be caught. I would also suspect that even if messages were intercepted, the amount of time and resources necessary to read them, figure out if it's real or not and then react on it will most likely be to late. No matter how you look at this those who are determined to do things as we all witnessed yesterday will stop at nothing. It is very difficult to defend against that kind of determination, especially when the idea is to take as many lives a possible as a result. One other note.. Gas prices here have remained stable, 1.30 for 87 1.41 for 89 1.52 for 93 May God console those in thier loss and bless this country as we deal with this tragic course of events. Admist all this devistation and destruction is was nice to see those out there helping each other where they can. John -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore. Today, I'm willing to accept some software black-box scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all for them. Many of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Cannot Get Connected Via VPN
Hi All, I have a situation where we have remote users dialling an ISP to get onto the Internet before using a PPTP VPN dial-up connection to gain access to a Terminal Server running various applications. The problem I currently am experiencing is that during the attempted connection to the VPN, the following error occurs:- 'Error 629 you have been disconnected from the computer you dialled'. Once at this point we have found that re-booting the remote pc/laptop sometimes allows the user to log into the VPN. Has anyone experienced this particular problem? If so could you shed some light on possible causes and resolutions? TIA, Rab. = Robert JacksonPhone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 Software Engineer Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus Place Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.uk = The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: RUMORS CONCERNING THE PRICE OF GAS?
But the message of Compassionate Conservatism is supposed to let these station owners do that... At 09:15 AM 9/12/2001 -0500, you wrote: Darn right they are! -Original Message- I hope you guys in the Bloomington? Peoria area remember which gas stations were gouging when things go back to normal. Those people are the enemy too! http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Attack and Gas Prices
1.68 / 1.78 / 1.88 is the best pricing here in Oregon, US. (same as Monday) filled up this AM.. only seeing a few stations raising prices (.10 or so) I also heard that there is a pipeline shut down somewhere on the West Coast. -Eric Larsen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices The lowest the price got here in Savannah was $1.19 for 87 Octane. Kevin Miller Kevinm@advancedpcsolu To: NT System Admin Issues tions.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 09/12/2001 10:08 AM Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Please respond to NT System Admin Issues I was paying 1.10 in GA last month when I was there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Prices here in Savannah, GA are still the same as well: $1.39, $1.49, $159. Kevin Miller Kevinm@advancedpcsolu To: NT System Admin Issues tions.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 09/11/2001 05:10 PM Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Please respond to NT System Admin Issues Buy me 50 gallons, fax it to me .. I will sell it we can split the profit : -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Wow. I looked outside. Still $1.42/1.52/1.62 here in Las Vegas, NV. -Original Message- From: Witt, Michael S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices A guy in our office (little rock, AR) got a call from a friend who owns a gas station, saying that Texaco HQ had sent out messages to prepare for a price change to take effect as early as this afternoon, and to expect the price to be at least double current. 20 min later (10 min ago) our secretary gets a call from her husband reporting that gas lines are around the corner at over 7 stations he's tried to stop at, 2 stations had already posted no gas left signs and that the avg price he's seen so far is $5 per gallon. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN
More information would help: What SP level is the server? RAS or RRAS? What OS are the clients? Any errors in Event Log on the RAS server? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 -Original Message- From: Robert Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN Hi All, I have a situation where we have remote users dialling an ISP to get onto the Internet before using a PPTP VPN dial-up connection to gain access to a Terminal Server running various applications. The problem I currently am experiencing is that during the attempted connection to the VPN, the following error occurs:- 'Error 629 you have been disconnected from the computer you dialled'. Once at this point we have found that re-booting the remote pc/laptop sometimes allows the user to log into the VPN. Has anyone experienced this particular problem? If so could you shed some light on possible causes and resolutions? TIA, Rab. = Robert JacksonPhone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 Software Engineer Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus Place Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.uk = The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
That's true. Americans have saved our european butt many times, most notably in WWI and WWII. And deserve all credits for that. And deserve all help they need from rest of us. It's not simply black and white world with good and bad guys. And I also agree with Kevin's observations in his Perspective of events thread. Power and strenght has been misused many times. Many people see USA as evil empire which is responsible for world injustice and exploatation. But America didn't invent current monetary and economic system. America is just taking advatage of this system to it's fullest potential and this is called bussiness. So many people don't think there is something wrong, because they are just doing bussiness. It's rooted in 18th century and was established by British empire while it was dominant force in the world. One of Rotschilds said at that time something like I don't care who is in power as long as I controll the bank. He, who issues the money, has all the power over the rest, by controlling interest rate and value of money. One economist predicted WWII in year 1918, just after end of WWI. Greater ad more devastating war will occure in less than 25 years if we don't radically change current monetary system. And it happend in less than 25 years. It's a flaw by design. It's like house made of playing cards. We can't make this world better place to live while based on current economic foundations. There will always be huge differences, rich and poor and struggle and tensions based on national/religious and other excuses. But basically, it's economic struggle. I don't see bright future here. For many years I feel like I am living at the end of Roman empire and just observing it's inevitable end. I hope I am mistaken. jang -Original Message- From: Bartolini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:15 PM Posted To: NTSysAdmin Conversation: NewYork Terrorist Attack Subject: Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon-not once, but several times-and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will
RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators
Title: Message How about runas, and hide the script some? +---+ Kevin Flanagan C/S Planning Engineer III I/T Implementation Department Branch Banking Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 MC: 172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC 27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:31 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators either give them local admin access to their workstation or you can set up a local policy using the MMC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 15:23 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators Hi, Does anyone know of a way to let regular users (non administrators) change the Win2K IP addresses only? Basically my laptop users travel to offices which do not all use DHCP hence require manual IP change. I am able to use netsh to change the IP but this requires admin rights which I do not want to do. Thanks. This communication is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information which is proprietary or confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient (or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and return it to us by mail. We will reimburse you for any expense incurred. We may record and or monitor telephone calls made to us by any person, to enable us to keep accurate records and to deal with queries. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you.It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately oraccidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where thecommunication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium.This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses.http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators
I can't remember if being a member of the Power Users group allows them to change this. Maybe something to try. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators Hi, Does anyone know of a way to let regular users (non administrators) change the Win2K IP addresses only? Basically my laptop users travel to offices which do not all use DHCP hence require manual IP change. I am able to use netsh to change the IP but this requires admin rights which I do not want to do. Thanks. This communication is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information which is proprietary or confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient (or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and return it to us by mail. We will reimburse you for any expense incurred. We may record and or monitor telephone calls made to us by any person, to enable us to keep accurate records and to deal with queries. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators
Title: RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators it has nothing to do with domain rights. It's the local rights in the local admin group on the OS you need to change. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 15:41 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators I can't remember if being a member of the Power Users group allows them to change this. Maybe something to try. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators Hi, Does anyone know of a way to let regular users (non administrators) change the Win2K IP addresses only? Basically my laptop users travel to offices which do not all use DHCP hence require manual IP change. I am able to use netsh to change the IP but this requires admin rights which I do not want to do. Thanks. This communication is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information which is proprietary or confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient (or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and return it to us by mail. We will reimburse you for any expense incurred. We may record and or monitor telephone calls made to us by any person, to enable us to keep accurate records and to deal with queries. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: A few thoughts on today's events
Mr. Dionne, Do you actually believe everything that you've just written? Especially these sections: Many times details of the politics behind situations are kept quiet, but overall I think we are given the straight scoop by government and the media. It is always good to question what we are told, and our press does that very well. I adamantly disagree that we are the bad cop on the beat. Many look upon the US badly because of our status in the world. We are active and support American Interests around the world to protect ourselves, as well as foster world peace and stability. Using the phrase under the yoke of the US is propaganda. We have no national purpose of holding other nations down for powers sake. There is no yoke of the US. Sir, with all due respect, you are either sheltered from life itself and don't get out much. Or you're too young to be involved in a discussion like this. But you're definitely uninformed if you dismiss all of Mr. Buff's comments as X-file-ish. Mr. Dionne, do you why the US bombed Japan during WWII? Sir, do you know the real reason we went to the defense of Kuwait? I am not going to get into a debate with you about these things. A simple yes or no will suffice with me. As I respectfully do not place much credence in an Americans' opinion (yours), who appears to be blinded with 'love of his country.' Jesse E. Gardner, MCP P.O. Box 11431 Columbia, SC 29211 (803)216-0119 (803)216-0921 fax (803)361-4361 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Carl Dionne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: A few thoughts on today's events Kurt, US foreign policy over time fluctuates due to the differing opinions of the political party who happens to be in power and to some degree of public opinion. Your characterization of events in the past are almost X-File-ish. Sure US policy has not always been correct, we make mistakes like every other country. Fighting the Soviet Union we had to sometimes choose stability over more democratic opposition. Your comments imply some sort of conspiracy in hiding or coloring historical events like JFK, etc. Many times details of the politics behind situations are kept quiet, but overall I think we are given the straight scoop by government and the media. It is always good to question what we are told, and our press does that very well. We support Israel because it is the right thing to do. But, we also support a Palestinian state. It is up to them to come to terms however. In the modern world the US has to be engaged in the world or pay the consequences. This means making decisions on what governments to support, taking or not taking military action, etc. In general the US government and it's people (us) support and respect the world's diversity. We may preach, but we do not conquer. I adamantly disagree that we are the bad cop on the beat. Many look upon the US badly because of our status in the world. We are active and support American Interests around the world to protect ourselves, as well as foster world peace and stability. Using the phrase under the yoke of the US is propaganda. We have no national purpose of holding other nations down for powers sake. There is no yoke of the US. I know there are points of view at odds with the United States, but we have to stand up for our interests and principles. The bottom line is we cannot please everyone, but we have to make the effort to live with everyone in the world. Being strong and outspoken in the world, is enough of a cause for other nations and peoples to be resentful of the US. The major cause of today's events is the clash of Western and Islamic culture. There should be room enough for all of us. But it is not the United States who is turn this into an us against them argument. In fact the political use of Jihad really does a great disservice to Islam. What it comes down to is we must fight for freedom, even if it appears we are the bully of the world. Just imagine the current government of China were in charge, and see who would complain than. Mahalo Carl -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: A few thoughts on today's events First: Thanks to those outside of the US who have expressed concern and support. It is much appreciated. I don't live anywhere near NYC, but as a US citizen and a simple human being I am distraught by these events, and wish the best for those who've been affected. As usual, people across America have mostly responded by trying to comfort and care for those who have been directly affected by the attack. It's not for nothing that citizens of the US are known as the most generous in the world, and the most practical. Erik Goldoff's forwarded post from his IT director is spot on, and also much
RE: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN
Hi Chris, Thanks for the reply and my apologies for not being a bit more informative. Hopefully this will rectify my lack of info:- Server: Microsoft Windows NT4.0 Terminal Server Edition with SP6 running RAS. Client: Microsoft Windows 98. No errors are reported in the Event Viewer. HTH, Rab. = Robert JacksonPhone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 Software Engineer Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus Place Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.uk = -Original Message- From: Chris Bodnar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 15:36 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN More information would help: What SP level is the server? RAS or RRAS? What OS are the clients? Any errors in Event Log on the RAS server? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 -Original Message- From: Robert Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN Hi All, I have a situation where we have remote users dialling an ISP to get onto the Internet before using a PPTP VPN dial-up connection to gain access to a Terminal Server running various applications. The problem I currently am experiencing is that during the attempted connection to the VPN, the following error occurs:- 'Error 629 you have been disconnected from the computer you dialled'. Once at this point we have found that re-booting the remote pc/laptop sometimes allows the user to log into the VPN. Has anyone experienced this particular problem? If so could you shed some light on possible causes and resolutions? TIA, Rab. = Robert JacksonPhone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 Software Engineer Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus Place Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.uk = The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: OT? perspective of events
There are a number of problems you leave out. First, I have sniffed a switched network before and it is not that hard. You need only overflow a switch with more bogus MAC addresses than it can handle and suddenly you have a hub. Even without any effort my snort box picks up loads of traffic it shouldn't behind two switches. You can probably assume you are safe from sniffing behind a router, unless there is a compromised box behind it with you. Second, you may have plenty to be afraid of. If someone sends you an html mail with a linked image from a child porn site, by having it open by accident in a preview window you could suddenly be catogorized as a child porn viewer by some automatic tool. I have had several very disturbed and concerned users contact me about incidents like this with html mail. I have no worries about reactions to this tragedy as I beleive that the vast majority of indivuals have good intentions even if their actions aren't perfect. What I worry about are overreactions. I woke up today much angrier than I was yesterday and I can think of some pretty horrible overreactions that I might be willing to support in the aftermath of the attacks. One can only hope that the leaders of my country and others have a better handle on their emotions than the general population. jbh -Original Message- From: Luke Brumbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events I read about this. It's a NT box running a kinda Sniffer software. I have used sniffer, the log gets incredibly big in a short period of time. So, the idea of scanning an ip address or email header for certain patterns would only be possible. Wiretaps are common, but you can only monitor so many phones at a time. Same here with email and this Carnivore black box. So you ask yourself, are you doing something to be afraid of? If not, then why worry, sniffer doesn't work well on switched networks and as for internet, only terrorist and child pornographers have something to worry about. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events I don't know how I feel about stuff like that yet. I think some of it may be warranted (we already know that any phone conversation basically can be recorded based on a myriad of words that are said). I think that the same type of thing monitoring e-mail would not be noticed by most. I think though, that if we were all told the extent of spying that the FBI already does, legally or illegally, we probably would be shocked. I almost think that things like that are better off kept silent. what the people don't know won't hurt them type of attitude. It's gonna get really interesting for a while here. As someone else said, we are in for a bit of a bumpy ride. As a side note, although I was not directly affected by the horrible acts that took place yesterday (no relatives), we will all be affected by this dastardly deed for a long time to come. My heart goes out to those who have experienced a loss. Even today, I still am in shock at what happened. At the same time, let us pray that our leaders make informed and wise decisions in the aftermath of what has happened. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore. Today, I'm willing to accept some software black-box scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all for them. Many of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm Enterprise Channel Management Software for Manufacturers Visit us at
OT: Voice over ip
Anyone doing VOIP ? Specifically using the MultiTech products? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Attack and Gas Prices
OK, As far as I know, there were no refineries hit yesterday (yes, this is the little picture). Any dramatic increase in prices, as already mentioned, can only be considered price gouging. Surely these stores are small ones owned by people who are looking to take advantage of this tragedy?? Who owns them? I cant imagine Chevron/Texaco/Mobile doing this (not that they wouldn't in a different circumstance). If gas does goes that high, I will no longer be taking my laptop home at night, because I will be riding to work. I refuse to support such anti American activity...Plus it will force me to ride my bike more... Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] nnah.ga.us To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 09/12/2001 07:09 AM Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Please respond to NT System Admin Issues The lowest the price got here in Savannah was $1.19 for 87 Octane. Kevin Miller Kevinm@advancedpcsolu To: NT System Admin Issues tions.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 09/12/2001 10:08 AM Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Please respond to NT System Admin Issues I was paying 1.10 in GA last month when I was there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Prices here in Savannah, GA are still the same as well: $1.39, $1.49, $159. Kevin Miller Kevinm@advancedpcsolu To: NT System Admin Issues tions.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 09/11/2001 05:10 PM Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Please respond to NT System Admin Issues Buy me 50 gallons, fax it to me .. I will sell it we can split the profit : -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices Wow. I looked outside. Still $1.42/1.52/1.62 here in Las Vegas, NV. -Original Message- From: Witt, Michael S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Attack and Gas Prices A guy in our office (little rock, AR) got a call from a friend who owns a gas station, saying that Texaco HQ had sent out messages to prepare for a price change to take effect as early as this afternoon, and to expect the price to be at least double current. 20 min later (10 min ago) our secretary gets a call from her husband reporting that gas lines are around the corner at over 7 stations he's tried to stop at, 2 stations had already posted no gas left signs and that the avg price he's seen so far is $5 per gallon. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack
There are a couple towns not far from me where they are celebrating in the streets over the incident. I know this is the greatest country to live in. Where else could you see thousands of people die and hold a rally without being arrested. The simple fact is there are individuals in our country who are here to reap the benefits and give nothing back. If it were not true, they would not work so hard to get here. I feel that if you do not want to contribute you should leave. And that goes for anyone no matter who you are. Forgive me for being so blunt.. David - Original Message - From: Jang Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack That's true. Americans have saved our european butt many times, most notably in WWI and WWII. And deserve all credits for that. And deserve all help they need from rest of us. It's not simply black and white world with good and bad guys. And I also agree with Kevin's observations in his Perspective of events thread. Power and strenght has been misused many times. Many people see USA as evil empire which is responsible for world injustice and exploatation. But America didn't invent current monetary and economic system. America is just taking advatage of this system to it's fullest potential and this is called bussiness. So many people don't think there is something wrong, because they are just doing bussiness. It's rooted in 18th century and was established by British empire while it was dominant force in the world. One of Rotschilds said at that time something like I don't care who is in power as long as I controll the bank. He, who issues the money, has all the power over the rest, by controlling interest rate and value of money. One economist predicted WWII in year 1918, just after end of WWI. Greater ad more devastating war will occure in less than 25 years if we don't radically change current monetary system. And it happend in less than 25 years. It's a flaw by design. It's like house made of playing cards. We can't make this world better place to live while based on current economic foundations. There will always be huge differences, rich and poor and struggle and tensions based on national/religious and other excuses. But basically, it's economic struggle. I don't see bright future here. For many years I feel like I am living at the end of Roman empire and just observing it's inevitable end. I hope I am mistaken. jang -Original Message- From: Bartolini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:15 PM Posted To: NTSysAdmin Conversation: NewYork Terrorist Attack Subject: Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon-not once, but several times-and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting
Access 2000/Win 2kPro combination
(If this is OT a bit, please direct me to the right group.) I have an Access 2000 database used by several people that resides on an NT4 Server. Some of its tables are linked to tables in another database on another NT4 server. Users on desktops using Win98 can access and add records to the database with no problems. Users on W2K machines get the message MS Access has generated errors and will be closed by Windows. You will need to restart the program. An error log is being created. Running the rebuild/compact utilities didn't help. Anyone have any suggestions? (and, by the way, anyone know where those error logs might be?) Thanks. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators
Nice to know we are still willing to assist those that send out 12-line disclaimers on their mail! Anyway, the local vs domain is probably not the issue here. Making Joe User a local admin should keep the domain recourses safe. However, he is still free to cause serious damage to the local machine, and I believe this is the concern of the original post. A local account manager can add a workstation to a domain and remove it afterward. Might an account manager be able to change IP information as well (or could it be granted under advanced user rights)? At 03:46 PM 9/12/2001 +0100, you wrote: it has nothing to do with domain rights. It's the local rights in the local admin group on the OS you need to change. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I can't remember if being a member of the Power Users group allows them to change this. Maybe something to try. -- Hi, Does anyone know of a way to let regular users (non administrators) change the Win2K IP addresses only? Basically my laptop users travel to offices which do not all use DHCP hence require manual IP change. I am able to use netsh to change the IP but this requires admin rights which I do not want to do. -- Richard D. McClary| Systems Administrator ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1717 S. Philo Rd, Suite 36, Urbana, IL| (217) 337-5030 ext. 261 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: OT: Voice over ip
Not me. But I just visited Cisco and looked at their IP Phones. They are hot, hot, hot. If you get a chance, look at them. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN
Robert, What version of Win 98? What version of the DUN client? Is this limited to one client, or have you tried this with other clients? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 -Original Message- From: Robert Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN Hi Chris, Thanks for the reply and my apologies for not being a bit more informative. Hopefully this will rectify my lack of info:- Server: Microsoft Windows NT4.0 Terminal Server Edition with SP6 running RAS. Client: Microsoft Windows 98. No errors are reported in the Event Viewer. HTH, Rab. = Robert JacksonPhone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 Software Engineer Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus Place Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.uk = -Original Message- From: Chris Bodnar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 15:36 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN More information would help: What SP level is the server? RAS or RRAS? What OS are the clients? Any errors in Event Log on the RAS server? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 -Original Message- From: Robert Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN Hi All, I have a situation where we have remote users dialling an ISP to get onto the Internet before using a PPTP VPN dial-up connection to gain access to a Terminal Server running various applications. The problem I currently am experiencing is that during the attempted connection to the VPN, the following error occurs:- 'Error 629 you have been disconnected from the computer you dialled'. Once at this point we have found that re-booting the remote pc/laptop sometimes allows the user to log into the VPN. Has anyone experienced this particular problem? If so could you shed some light on possible causes and resolutions? TIA, Rab. = Robert JacksonPhone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 Software Engineer Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus Place Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.uk = The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Attack and Gas Prices
Good luck! As someone that bicycles 5000-7000+ miles each year (commuting whenever possible), I often get the feeling that those that get gouged at the gas station consider bicycling to be Anti-American. Weird but true! If gas does goes that high, I will no longer be taking my laptop home at night, because I will be riding to work. I refuse to support such anti American activity...Plus it will force me to ride my bike more... http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: RUMORS CONCERNING THE PRICE OF GAS?
Any crazy hikes in the gas prices should ceritfy the closing of that business. There is no reason for an increase from $1.59 to 4-5 dollars per gallon. - Original Message - From: Richard McClary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:35 AM Subject: RE: RUMORS CONCERNING THE PRICE OF GAS? But the message of Compassionate Conservatism is supposed to let these station owners do that... At 09:15 AM 9/12/2001 -0500, you wrote: Darn right they are! -Original Message- I hope you guys in the Bloomington? Peoria area remember which gas stations were gouging when things go back to normal. Those people are the enemy too! http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
There's nothing to forgive you. You didn't kill or assault anyone. I gave all the credits and support to all Americans. I just gave my observations as I see the world from other angle. jang -Original Message- From: Bartolini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:58 PM Posted To: NTSysAdmin Conversation: NewYork Terrorist Attack Subject: Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack There are a couple towns not far from me where they are celebrating in the streets over the incident. I know this is the greatest country to live in. Where else could you see thousands of people die and hold a rally without being arrested. The simple fact is there are individuals in our country who are here to reap the benefits and give nothing back. If it were not true, they would not work so hard to get here. I feel that if you do not want to contribute you should leave. And that goes for anyone no matter who you are. Forgive me for being so blunt.. David - Original Message - From: Jang Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack That's true. Americans have saved our european butt many times, most notably in WWI and WWII. And deserve all credits for that. And deserve all help they need from rest of us. It's not simply black and white world with good and bad guys. And I also agree with Kevin's observations in his Perspective of events thread. Power and strenght has been misused many times. Many people see USA as evil empire which is responsible for world injustice and exploatation. But America didn't invent current monetary and economic system. America is just taking advatage of this system to it's fullest potential and this is called bussiness. So many people don't think there is something wrong, because they are just doing bussiness. It's rooted in 18th century and was established by British empire while it was dominant force in the world. One of Rotschilds said at that time something like I don't care who is in power as long as I controll the bank. He, who issues the money, has all the power over the rest, by controlling interest rate and value of money. One economist predicted WWII in year 1918, just after end of WWI. Greater ad more devastating war will occure in less than 25 years if we don't radically change current monetary system. And it happend in less than 25 years. It's a flaw by design. It's like house made of playing cards. We can't make this world better place to live while based on current economic foundations. There will always be huge differences, rich and poor and struggle and tensions based on national/religious and other excuses. But basically, it's economic struggle. I don't see bright future here. For many years I feel like I am living at the end of Roman empire and just observing it's inevitable end. I hope I am mistaken. jang http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators
Title: RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators well if you don't trust your users, and in most cases you shouldn't ;) You can set-up a group policy for that user on the local machine. Might take a bit of configuration though, hence I would go with the quick and dirty local rights. -Original Message- From: Richard McClary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 15:54 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators Nice to know we are still willing to assist those that send out 12-line disclaimers on their mail! Anyway, the local vs domain is probably not the issue here. Making Joe User a local admin should keep the domain recourses safe. However, he is still free to cause serious damage to the local machine, and I believe this is the concern of the original post. A local account manager can add a workstation to a domain and remove it afterward. Might an account manager be able to change IP information as well (or could it be granted under advanced user rights)? At 03:46 PM 9/12/2001 +0100, you wrote: it has nothing to do with domain rights. It's the local rights in the local admin group on the OS you need to change. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I can't remember if being a member of the Power Users group allows them to change this. Maybe something to try. -- Hi, Does anyone know of a way to let regular users (non administrators) change the Win2K IP addresses only? Basically my laptop users travel to offices which do not all use DHCP hence require manual IP change. I am able to use netsh to change the IP but this requires admin rights which I do not want to do. -- Richard D. McClary | Systems Administrator ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1717 S. Philo Rd, Suite 36, Urbana, IL| (217) 337-5030 ext. 261 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
ADSL query
ADSL has just been introduced in Ireland. I was in the process of installing a leased line Internet connection with Worldcom, and discovered that ADSL would be about 30% of the price. My one worry is IP address allocation. Does anyone know if ADSL supports public Ips? IE, will my exchange server work? Will my users be able to connect in via a VPN etc.? Thanks, Brian Judge. The information in this e-mail (which includes any files transmitted with it) is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. It is not to be relied upon by any other person other than the addressee except with our prior approval. If no such approval is given, we will not accept liability (in negligence or otherwise) rising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on such information. Unauthorised recipients are required to maintain confidentiality. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer system. Any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of the email is prohibited. Copyright in this e-mail and any document created by us will be and remain vested in us and will not be transferred to you. We assert the right to be identified as the author of and to object to any misuses of the contents of this email or such documents. Grant Thornton is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in Ireland to carry on investment business. A list of partners may be inspected at Grant Thornton, Ashford House, Tara Street, Dublin 2, Ireland http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack
OK, I don't want to get into a huge debate or anything, but if I remember my history correctly, America was sitting out WWII until Pearl Harbour. Sure they provided equipment to the British, but Europe was on it's own until someone hit the US and THEIR security was threatened. So in effect, America was fighting for itself as well. -Original Message- From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack We all won the war... The Allies. Their decendants. Those of us here. We all lost people in WWII. The point being here that until America entered into the fray, it was not boding well for ALL of Europe. Numerous countries were defeated and had already surrendered. Yes, we all won the war, but we all weren't responsible for that win as many of the teams had already left the playing field. And it obviously wasn't going well before America got involved. This goes back to the point that America does care about it's neighbors. We all won the war... seems a little flippant and not in understanding with what was going on at the time. I can tell you that we WEREN'T all winning the war until America came over and gave it's kids for foreign soil. Europeans were fighting to protect themselves. Americans were fighting for Europeans, our neighbors. To now say that we wouldn't care if this (the terrorist attack) had happened anywhere in the world is just silly. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Except that the US declared war on Japan only. Germany and Italy declared war on the US after that. -Original Message- From: Horst Hinz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack OK, I don't want to get into a huge debate or anything, but if I remember my history correctly, America was sitting out WWII until Pearl Harbour. Sure they provided equipment to the British, but Europe was on it's own until someone hit the US and THEIR security was threatened. So in effect, America was fighting for itself as well. -Original Message- From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack We all won the war... The Allies. Their decendants. Those of us here. We all lost people in WWII. The point being here that until America entered into the fray, it was not boding well for ALL of Europe. Numerous countries were defeated and had already surrendered. Yes, we all won the war, but we all weren't responsible for that win as many of the teams had already left the playing field. And it obviously wasn't going well before America got involved. This goes back to the point that America does care about it's neighbors. We all won the war... seems a little flippant and not in understanding with what was going on at the time. I can tell you that we WEREN'T all winning the war until America came over and gave it's kids for foreign soil. Europeans were fighting to protect themselves. Americans were fighting for Europeans, our neighbors. To now say that we wouldn't care if this (the terrorist attack) had happened anywhere in the world is just silly. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: ADSL query
It will work, there's no difference between leased lines and ADSL. I use a SDSL line to run my exchange box with out problems. The IP address issues are public and VPN's can be set up. Matt Wehnes System Administrator Morton Machining MFG -Original Message- From: Brian Judge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: ADSL query ADSL has just been introduced in Ireland. I was in the process of installing a leased line Internet connection with Worldcom, and discovered that ADSL would be about 30% of the price. My one worry is IP address allocation. Does anyone know if ADSL supports public Ips? IE, will my exchange server work? Will my users be able to connect in via a VPN etc.? Thanks, Brian Judge. The information in this e-mail (which includes any files transmitted with it) is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. It is not to be relied upon by any other person other than the addressee except with our prior approval. If no such approval is given, we will not accept liability (in negligence or otherwise) rising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on such information. Unauthorised recipients are required to maintain confidentiality. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer system. Any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of the email is prohibited. Copyright in this e-mail and any document created by us will be and remain vested in us and will not be transferred to you. We assert the right to be identified as the author of and to object to any misuses of the contents of this email or such documents. Grant Thornton is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in Ireland to carry on investment business. A list of partners may be inspected at Grant Thornton, Ashford House, Tara Street, Dublin 2, Ireland http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack
absoloutely. But consider why the us went into Europe - would you want to Have a Fascist Nutter occupy europe and russia? who would have been the next target? go figure. -Original Message- From: Horst Hinz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 16:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack OK, I don't want to get into a huge debate or anything, but if I remember my history correctly, America was sitting out WWII until Pearl Harbour. Sure they provided equipment to the British, but Europe was on it's own until someone hit the US and THEIR security was threatened. So in effect, America was fighting for itself as well. -Original Message- From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack We all won the war... The Allies. Their decendants. Those of us here. We all lost people in WWII. The point being here that until America entered into the fray, it was not boding well for ALL of Europe. Numerous countries were defeated and had already surrendered. Yes, we all won the war, but we all weren't responsible for that win as many of the teams had already left the playing field. And it obviously wasn't going well before America got involved. This goes back to the point that America does care about it's neighbors. We all won the war... seems a little flippant and not in understanding with what was going on at the time. I can tell you that we WEREN'T all winning the war until America came over and gave it's kids for foreign soil. Europeans were fighting to protect themselves. Americans were fighting for Europeans, our neighbors. To now say that we wouldn't care if this (the terrorist attack) had happened anywhere in the world is just silly. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm ** Website - WWW.COOP.CO.UK This document should only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed and is not intended to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of its contents. Accordingly, United Co-op disclaims all responsibility and accept no liability (including in negligence) for the consequences for any person acting, or refraining from acting, on such information prior to the receipt by those persons of subsequent written confirmation. If you have received this E-mail message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone. Please also destroy and delete the message from your computer. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. ** http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack
My opinion was not direct towards you personally. Just those who beleive they can destroy our way of life here and still enjoy it... Thanks, David - Original Message - From: Jang Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack There's nothing to forgive you. You didn't kill or assault anyone. I gave all the credits and support to all Americans. I just gave my observations as I see the world from other angle. jang -Original Message- From: Bartolini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:58 PM Posted To: NTSysAdmin Conversation: NewYork Terrorist Attack Subject: Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack There are a couple towns not far from me where they are celebrating in the streets over the incident. I know this is the greatest country to live in. Where else could you see thousands of people die and hold a rally without being arrested. The simple fact is there are individuals in our country who are here to reap the benefits and give nothing back. If it were not true, they would not work so hard to get here. I feel that if you do not want to contribute you should leave. And that goes for anyone no matter who you are. Forgive me for being so blunt.. David - Original Message - From: Jang Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack That's true. Americans have saved our european butt many times, most notably in WWI and WWII. And deserve all credits for that. And deserve all help they need from rest of us. It's not simply black and white world with good and bad guys. And I also agree with Kevin's observations in his Perspective of events thread. Power and strenght has been misused many times. Many people see USA as evil empire which is responsible for world injustice and exploatation. But America didn't invent current monetary and economic system. America is just taking advatage of this system to it's fullest potential and this is called bussiness. So many people don't think there is something wrong, because they are just doing bussiness. It's rooted in 18th century and was established by British empire while it was dominant force in the world. One of Rotschilds said at that time something like I don't care who is in power as long as I controll the bank. He, who issues the money, has all the power over the rest, by controlling interest rate and value of money. One economist predicted WWII in year 1918, just after end of WWI. Greater ad more devastating war will occure in less than 25 years if we don't radically change current monetary system. And it happend in less than 25 years. It's a flaw by design. It's like house made of playing cards. We can't make this world better place to live while based on current economic foundations. There will always be huge differences, rich and poor and struggle and tensions based on national/religious and other excuses. But basically, it's economic struggle. I don't see bright future here. For many years I feel like I am living at the end of Roman empire and just observing it's inevitable end. I hope I am mistaken. jang http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN
Hi Chris, Windows 98 SE is installed on the client PC. I'm using the standard Microsoft VPN Adapter software that comes with Win98 SE. Therefore I'm not sure what you mean by the DUN client? Is this another additional piece of software I should have loaded? TIA, Rab. = Robert JacksonPhone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 Software Engineer Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus Place Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.uk = -Original Message- From: Chris Bodnar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 15:58 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN Robert, What version of Win 98? What version of the DUN client? Is this limited to one client, or have you tried this with other clients? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 -Original Message- From: Robert Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN Hi Chris, Thanks for the reply and my apologies for not being a bit more informative. Hopefully this will rectify my lack of info:- Server: Microsoft Windows NT4.0 Terminal Server Edition with SP6 running RAS. Client: Microsoft Windows 98. No errors are reported in the Event Viewer. HTH, Rab. = Robert JacksonPhone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 Software Engineer Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus Place Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.uk = -Original Message- From: Chris Bodnar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 15:36 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN More information would help: What SP level is the server? RAS or RRAS? What OS are the clients? Any errors in Event Log on the RAS server? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 -Original Message- From: Robert Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Cannot Get Connected Via VPN Hi All, I have a situation where we have remote users dialling an ISP to get onto the Internet before using a PPTP VPN dial-up connection to gain access to a Terminal Server running various applications. The problem I currently am experiencing is that during the attempted connection to the VPN, the following error occurs:- 'Error 629 you have been disconnected from the computer you dialled'. Once at this point we have found that re-booting the remote pc/laptop sometimes allows the user to log into the VPN. Has anyone experienced this particular problem? If so could you shed some light on possible causes and resolutions? TIA, Rab. = Robert JacksonPhone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 Software Engineer Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus Place Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.uk = The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm The
RE: Voice over ip
Title: Message Cisco is the only product I have and would use for this. -Original Message-From: Chris Bodnar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:48 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: OT: Voice over ip Anyone doing VOIP ? Specifically using the MultiTech products? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
For an interesting commentary on this particular Nostradamus prediction, check this out: http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~nmarshal/nostradamus.htm John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Greg J. Ewy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Thanks for the expressions of support. Means much to us, knowing that there are lots of others throughout the world who feel the pain, and are supportive. Revelations, Armaggeddon, and Nostradamus have been on my mind lots today. In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb The third big war will begin when the big city is burning - Nostradamus 1654 Greg J. Ewy Trilogy Systems 515-964-9505 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: OT: Voice over ip
AAVID Baby, AAVID. Chris Bodnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/12/2001 10:48:16 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: OT: Voice over ip Anyone doing VOIP ? Specifically using the MultiTech products? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: OT? perspective of events
Give me 2 linemen in trench coats that have not shaved or showered in a few days. Get up tell everyone we have a bomb. That is all it would take. NO WEAPONS NEEDED, to hyjack a plane. How do you implement security to solve that problem? -Original Message- From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events I, for one, would be willing to trade in some conveniences, but not freedoms. I would be totally fine with MUCH more heightened security at airports. Do you realize it is LEGAL to carry a knife with a 4 blade onto a plane??? Because of people with pocket knives, my plane could get hijacked. I don't accept that. On several occasions as I traveled, security did not check what I put in the little dishes as I go through the metal detector's. I am asthmatic, and often carry an inhaler. I could have been mace, and I could have gotten it on board. Delaying passengers even an hour or two for every flight due to increased security checks is not much in my mind to reduce the risk of this ever happening again. Anywhere. -Original Message- From: Lentz, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events Andrew is absolutely correct. We should not give up even small measures of personal freedom for security. Doing so would prove terrorism against the US as a successful means of altering the American way of life, and thus America itself. We as a nation cannot allow that to happen. Wayne Lentz -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events ~ In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. ~ To me, this is the worse thing about terrorism. We lose what we cherish, and that is freedom. And many will accept this, because they think it will be better -- but it won't. A wise man once said: They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin == ASB - http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT == A nickel isn't worth a dime today. -- Yogi Berra. -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore. Today, I'm willing to accept some software black-box scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all for them. Many of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: ADSL query
What a timely conversation. I have IDSL from Wcom/ UUNet and found that they were in no rush to help either. It's not a problem with the ISP - it is in the relationship with the company bringing the line into the facility and the phone companies. It's miserable when it's down as each of the companies point the finger at each other and then jointly point at you - it's the IW it's the CPE. Total BS. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax -Original Message- From: Erik Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ADSL query We are using ADSL in some of our stores here. They all have public IP's. The one thing that you might want to consider, and it may be different with worldcomm, is that most providers (especially ours) are still treating ADSL like home connectivity and therefore are in no rush to fix problems. Erik -Original Message- From: Brian Judge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: ADSL query ADSL has just been introduced in Ireland. I was in the process of installing a leased line Internet connection with Worldcom, and discovered that ADSL would be about 30% of the price. My one worry is IP address allocation. Does anyone know if ADSL supports public Ips? IE, will my exchange server work? Will my users be able to connect in via a VPN etc.? Thanks, Brian Judge. The information in this e-mail (which includes any files transmitted with it) is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. It is not to be relied upon by any other person other than the addressee except with our prior approval. If no such approval is given, we will not accept liability (in negligence or otherwise) rising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on such information. Unauthorised recipients are required to maintain confidentiality. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer system. Any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of the email is prohibited. Copyright in this e-mail and any document created by us will be and remain vested in us and will not be transferred to you. We assert the right to be identified as the author of and to object to any misuses of the contents of this email or such documents. Grant Thornton is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in Ireland to carry on investment business. A list of partners may be inspected at Grant Thornton, Ashford House, Tara Street, Dublin 2, Ireland http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
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RE: OT: Voice over ip
Not familiar with this. Care to elaborate? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Voice over ip AAVID Baby, AAVID. Chris Bodnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/12/2001 10:48:16 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: OT: Voice over ip Anyone doing VOIP ? Specifically using the MultiTech products? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: RUMORS CONCERNING THE PRICE OF GAS AND LINES AT GAS STATIONS
We had the same prices, but HUGE lines and even a couple of station were shown on the news as tapped dry. The fact that 3 AG's (OK, TX and MS) reported issues with it yesterday, implies it did occur, but I didn't see anything but the long lines personally. So, not the bulls**it you thought, but not quite the big deal that some of us thought either. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/01 08:46AM For those of you who posted RUMORS of gas lines and rising prices for gasoline, consider yourself part of OUR enemy. PLEASE, PLEASE post only information that you personally know to be factual. So here are the facts from the Northern Suburbs of Chicago, where our gas prices are among the highest in the U.S. I reported yesterday that a gas station near my office was at $2.09 for a gallon of premium on my way into work yesterday morning. However, when I went out for lunch, the price had DROPPED to $1.99 per gallon. After all the RUMORS yesterday and the fact that I had less than a quarter of a tank of gas in my car, I was somewhat concerned. But at 5:00PM that gas station near my office was STILL at $1.99 per gallon and to my surprise, NO LINES! I figured that since I pass several gas stations on my way home, I'd take a chance that the RUMORS were bulls**t and wait to fill at the station near my home. Well, every gas station I passed had the same pricing as in the morning and there were NO LINES to be seen. Finally, I came to the gas station near my home, and the price of gas hadn't changed and there were NO LINES, so I pulled in and filled up as usual. So for those of you who are willing to pass rumors and join our enemies in battle, I suggest you have an opportunity to leave the enemy and rejoin us who are lucky enough to live in the greatest land of all. And the way to do that is to check the facts before posting erroneous information and contributing to what could have been a real panic in the U.S. Murray F. (how long will I have to use this signature so as not to be confused with Murray B. in Canada) http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
Hm... Maybe click on the link stamped at the bottom of every message you receive from the list? John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Blanco, Juan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about How do I un-subscribe to this mailing list... http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators
The first thing you might try is the registry keys that contain the IP information. Try granting various ACLs to those, maybe start with FC and see if it works, then tighten it until it does the absolute minimum required. Thanks Praful.Patel@LouisDre yfus.co.uk To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/2001 09:23 AM cc: Please respond to NTSubject: Win2000 IP Change by Non-Administrators System Admin Issues Hi, Does anyone know of a way to let regular users (non administrators) change the Win2K IP addresses only? Basically my laptop users travel to offices which do not all use DHCP hence require manual IP change. I am able to use netsh to change the IP but this requires admin rights which I do not want to do. Thanks. This communication is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information which is proprietary or confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient (or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and return it to us by mail. We will reimburse you for any expense incurred. We may record and or monitor telephone calls made to us by any person, to enable us to keep accurate records and to deal with queries. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Voice over ip
Title: Message Echo! Echo! Our use of the Alcatel systems (4400) has proven to be A1. Dave, Argyll College, Scotland -Original Message-From: Williams Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:31 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Voice over ip Try Alcatel...good stuff... -Original Message-From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:35 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Voice over ip Cisco is the only product I have and would use for this. -Original Message-From: Chris Bodnar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:48 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: OT: Voice over ip Anyone doing VOIP ? Specifically using the MultiTech products? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm m¶ÿÃ,ºvÞÛ(~Üç(ùí³+vh§+-r«µêá¶
RE: ADSL query
That was the main reason that we went with Soutwestern Bell here. We assumed that since it was their network and they were responsible for the last mile that problems would be resolved much faster. What actually happened was that, in an effort to provide better support they created a division called ASI to handle all support calls. These individuals do not necessarily have technical knowledge of the product. They are simply skilled at answering the phone. Occasionally we get one or two that has an idea of what is going on and it is great. Other times we give them answers that are not on their script and it blows their minds. To their credit SWB has assigned us a customer relations manager with whom we directly interface. She is now seeing the problems that we have been talking about. Erik -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ADSL query What a timely conversation. I have IDSL from Wcom/ UUNet and found that they were in no rush to help either. It's not a problem with the ISP - it is in the relationship with the company bringing the line into the facility and the phone companies. It's miserable when it's down as each of the companies point the finger at each other and then jointly point at you - it's the IW it's the CPE. Total BS. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax -Original Message- From: Erik Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ADSL query We are using ADSL in some of our stores here. They all have public IP's. The one thing that you might want to consider, and it may be different with worldcomm, is that most providers (especially ours) are still treating ADSL like home connectivity and therefore are in no rush to fix problems. Erik -Original Message- From: Brian Judge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: ADSL query ADSL has just been introduced in Ireland. I was in the process of installing a leased line Internet connection with Worldcom, and discovered that ADSL would be about 30% of the price. My one worry is IP address allocation. Does anyone know if ADSL supports public Ips? IE, will my exchange server work? Will my users be able to connect in via a VPN etc.? Thanks, Brian Judge. The information in this e-mail (which includes any files transmitted with it) is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. It is not to be relied upon by any other person other than the addressee except with our prior approval. If no such approval is given, we will not accept liability (in negligence or otherwise) rising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on such information. Unauthorised recipients are required to maintain confidentiality. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer system. Any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of the email is prohibited. Copyright in this e-mail and any document created by us will be and remain vested in us and will not be transferred to you. We assert the right to be identified as the author of and to object to any misuses of the contents of this email or such documents. Grant Thornton is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in Ireland to carry on investment business. A list of partners may be inspected at Grant Thornton, Ashford House, Tara Street, Dublin 2, Ireland http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
Title: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Last night while watching my son at Pop Warner football practice, this tragedy was of course the topic of conversation. It's amazing to me how many experts there are. One guy was talking about why Muslims hate Christians. Being pretty damn ignorant, I decided to do a little research this morning, and found this site - www.islam-guide.com. Maybe it's watered down a bit, and it doesn't explain religious fanaticism. But at least I understand their religion a little bit better. Just thought I throw this out. At least for me, education and understanding goes a long way. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about On top of Revelation, the book of Daniel also makes for an interesting read. I'm not going to use this forum (or my employer's time) to proselytize. I would just encourage those who do not believe that the Bible is the word of God to maybe reconsider when Israel becomes involved in an all-out war in the Middle East. If I'm wrong and the war never happens, you can thumb your nose at me and laugh. But if I'm right and the war DOES happen, grab yourself a Bible and start reading it with the state of mind that it may not just be a book full of fiction after all. Intellectuality and faith are not mutually exclusive. That's all I'm going to say on the matter, so please withhold the flames (unless you want to send them to me personally off the list). John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Matthew Western [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Hi People, I'd just like to express sadness to all the people in the US effected by the attacks on US. I think it's disgusting and should be punished. While people everywhere are in a state of shock/uncertainty/fear it's worth thinking about where each of us are going to spend our eternal destiny. The Bible predicts basically a World War 3 where everyone will attack Israel and try to wipe them off the face off the earth... Revelation is an interesting book to read through Have a good day (and think about the following excert). Regards Matthew http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Voice over ip
I heard that Alcatel is good for small group of users up to 200. But Cisco stuff can accommodate up to thousands. Dave Wylie [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/12/2001 10:57:10 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Voice over ip Echo! Echo! Our use of the Alcatel systems (4400) has proven to be A1. Dave, Argyll College, Scotland -Original Message- From: Williams Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Voice over ip Try Alcatel...good stuff... -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Voice over ip Cisco is the only product I have and would use for this. -Original Message- From: Chris Bodnar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Voice over ip Anyone doing VOIP ? Specifically using the MultiTech products? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Script not running at login on win 98 clients
Title: Script not running at login on win 98 clients Hello - NT 4 SP6a Domain - Win 98 clients One PDC and one BDC both Win NT 4 SP6a Getting a strange problem here - Win 98 clients are authenticating to the domain because Outlook/Exchange is working fine but some of them do not get the login script to run. No Errors - it just doesn't go. If I go to the client and drill down through network neighborhood to the netlogin share of the PDC I get an access denied message. If I drill down to the netlogin share of the BDC I can run the script manually. If I reboot the PDC and do the same thing from the same client I can run it manually. I modified the two scripts and put the words PDC and BDC in each of the respective scripts to see where they are running from - from my test machine I have no issues but sometimes it runs from the BDC and sometimes from the PDC. Verified the netlogin share is set to everyone. This all started after applying the MS Security Rollup Hot fix. Has anyone else seen this problem? Searched MS and could only find the problem relating to win95 clients Q142672 that talks about command line parameters - that does not seem related. TIA Jim http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Script not running at login on win 98 clients
Title: Script not running at login on win 98 clients Has the script ever run successfully? Is the replication set up to replicate the script between PDC and BDC? If so, have you set/changed the logon script location on the export server? Peter - Original Message - From: Zangara, Jim To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: Script not running at login on win 98 clients Hello - NT 4 SP6a Domain - Win 98 clients One PDC and one BDC both Win NT 4 SP6a Getting a strange problem here - Win 98 clients are authenticating to the domain because Outlook/Exchange is working fine but some of them do not get the login script to run. No Errors - it just doesn't go. If I go to the client and drill down through network neighborhood to the netlogin share of the PDC I get an access denied message. If I drill down to the netlogin share of the BDC I can run the script manually. If I reboot the PDC and do the same thing from the same client I can run it manually. I modified the two scripts and put the words PDC and BDC in each of the respective scripts to see where they are running from - from my test machine I have no issues but sometimes it runs from the BDC and sometimes from the PDC. Verified the netlogin share is set to everyone. This all started after applying the MS Security Rollup Hot fix. Has anyone else seen this problem? Searched MS and could only find the problem relating to win95 clients Q142672 that talks about command line parameters - that does not seem related. TIA Jim http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Mac to PC
We have a new VP that just started this week that is used to working on a MAC. Is there a page out there anywhere that lists a MAC to PC conversion on how to get things done? Erik http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Voice over ip
Nortel has a very strong VOIP Solution as well. Implementing VOIP is something that should not be taken lightly, and DEFINITELY not something that you should cut corners on. This means forget about the Multitech stuff. Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/12/2001 11:34:37 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Voice over ip Cisco is the only product I have and would use for this. -Original Message- From: Chris Bodnar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Voice over ip Anyone doing VOIP ? Specifically using the MultiTech products? Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Mac to PC
What is he going to be doing? A lot of the stuff may be similar. Was he using Claris or MS Office? K.Borndale [EMAIL PROTECTED] -home email - Original Message - From: Erik Brown To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Mac to PC We have a new VP that just started this week that is used to working on aMAC. Is there a page out there anywhere that lists a MAC to PC conversion onhow to get things done?Erikhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Script not running at login on win 98 clients
Title: Message any errors in the Event Viewer? - Original Message - From: Zangara, Jim To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:18 PM Subject: RE: Script not running at login on win 98 clients script was working great until the hot fix - no replication - since it is only two servers I copied it manually to the appropriate directories. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Today I dialed a wrong number...The other person said, "Hello?" and I said, "Hello, could I speak to Joey?"...They said, "Uh...I don't think so...he's only 2 months old." I said, "I'll wait." -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: Peter Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:18 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Script not running at login on win 98 clients Has the script ever run successfully? Is the replication set up to replicate the script between PDC and BDC? If so, have you set/changed the logon script location on the export server? Peter - Original Message - From: Zangara, Jim To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: Script not running at login on win 98 clients Hello - NT 4 SP6a Domain - Win 98 clients One PDC and one BDC both Win NT 4 SP6a Getting a strange problem here - Win 98 clients are authenticating to the domain because Outlook/Exchange is working fine but some of them do not get the login script to run. No Errors - it just doesn't go. If I go to the client and drill down through network neighborhood to the netlogin share of the PDC I get an access denied message. If I drill down to the netlogin share of the BDC I can run the script manually. If I reboot the PDC and do the same thing from the same client I can run it manually. I modified the two scripts and put the words PDC and BDC in each of the respective scripts to see where they are running from - from my test machine I have no issues but sometimes it runs from the BDC and sometimes from the PDC. Verified the netlogin share is set to everyone. This all started after applying the MS Security Rollup Hot fix. Has anyone else seen this problem? Searched MS and could only find the problem relating to win95 clients Q142672 that talks about command line parameters - that does not seem related. TIA Jim http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack
And we could have easily sat back and waited until our continent (not just our territory) was attacked, but we didn't. Sure the Sleeping Giant was awoke, but he didn't respond back to Japan only (or even primarily for that matter). We can all sit back now and question why we didn't enter earlier. It is easy to question policy when hindsight is 20/20. However, what you can't question is whether or not America just beefed up it's on shores and waited for Germany to bring the war to them or whether they sent the kids overseas to stop a country that was attacking countries that are geographically nowhere near the contiguous 48 states. America provided all of the help that Europe asked for, for years leading up to Pearl Harbor. At the time no one knew that America should have entered on principal because no one was aware of the Final Plan and all that went along with it. This is a perfect example of how people want America to stay out of their issues. This is was the attitude that De Galle and Churchill both expressed early on. We provided them with what they asked for. Japan attacked us and instead of just attacking them back America realized that it really needed to fight on both fronts. It did so and helped the world pull through. Contrast that to Russia's position. They were very similar to America and they were sticking it out also. Russia entered into a treaty with Germany even. Russia was then attacked by Germany. They didn't immediately send a fleet over to the Philippines. They didn't get with England and say, What do you need? They fortified their borders and defended themselves. Whether or not America entered early enough will always be debated. Whether or not they were primarily responsible for winning is not. Whether or not they could/should have just turned their fury on Japan and left Europe alone seems debatable to me. Whether or not they did so does not. We didn't enter it as soon as we could (although I do believe it was as soon as we were asked). But we most certainly did not fight this war as someone with THEIR security snip threatened. or it would have been handled on a different stage. We had no known issue with Germany other than the fact that they were starting to beat our neighbors. So in effect, America was fighting for itself as well. Not unless we fought our war solely against Japan and I think a quick perusal of any history book will tell you that this is not what happened. Germany would have let us clean Japan's clock if it would have meant us not entering into the European conflict. We chose to not even try this route. Again, I don't see how any of this was not helping our neighbors as they were given what they said they needed from us. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/01 10:13AM OK, I don't want to get into a huge debate or anything, but if I remember my history correctly, America was sitting out WWII until Pearl Harbour. Sure they provided equipment to the British, but Europe was on it's own until someone hit the US and THEIR security was threatened. So in effect, America was fighting for itself as well. -Original Message- From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack We all won the war... The Allies. Their decendants. Those of us here. We all lost people in WWII. The point being here that until America entered into the fray, it was not boding well for ALL of Europe. Numerous countries were defeated and had already surrendered. Yes, we all won the war, but we all weren't responsible for that win as many of the teams had already left the playing field. And it obviously wasn't going well before America got involved. This goes back to the point that America does care about it's neighbors. We all won the war... seems a little flippant and not in understanding with what was going on at the time. I can tell you that we WEREN'T all winning the war until America came over and gave it's kids for foreign soil. Europeans were fighting to protect themselves. Americans were fighting for Europeans, our neighbors. To now say that we wouldn't care if this (the terrorist attack) had happened anywhere in the world is just silly. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Mac to PC
Office 2000. -Original Message-From: Kelly Borndale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:40 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Mac to PC What is he going to be doing? A lot of the stuff may be similar. Was he using Claris or MS Office? K.Borndale [EMAIL PROTECTED] -home email - Original Message - From: Erik Brown To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Mac to PC We have a new VP that just started this week that is used to working on aMAC. Is there a page out there anywhere that lists a MAC to PC conversion onhow to get things done?Erikhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
win2k login script help
Hi all sorry for the newbie approach on this question but never touched login scripts has anyone got any links for a howto approach, ? just searching MS now but its grinding at a snail pace atm, so i thought turn to u lot out here -- Best regards, Gareth, MCP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Mac to PC
Get the book. This book has step by step instructions on how to do this. Mastering Windows NT 4. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0782126936/qid=1000312525/sr=1-1/ref= sc_b_1/002-2106894-2076060 Mastering Windows 2000 Server. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0782128726/qid=1000312579/sr=1-1/ref= sc_b_1/002-2106894-2076060 -Original Message- From: Erik Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac to PC We have a new VP that just started this week that is used to working on a MAC. Is there a page out there anywhere that lists a MAC to PC conversion on how to get things done? Erik http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
Title: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about What fascinates me is that in theory there is only one God, it's just a matter of how one worships. Yet, understanding must be the key because more people have been killed and more wars fought with religion as the foundation than any other reason. Understanding others beliefs is the key, yet since man stood up and learned to speak and communicate, we still have a problem trying to understand other people's beliefs and point of view. It is my opinion that little improvement in human understanding exists nor will it ever. Everytime it appears that the Israelis and the Arabs are about to declare peace, it NEVER happens. Ofcourse, this comes from a Jew who is agnostic for sure and maybe atheistic. Murray -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:04 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Last night while watching my son at Pop Warner football practice, this tragedy was of course the topic of conversation. It's amazing to me how many experts there are. One guy was talking about why Muslims hate Christians. Being pretty damn ignorant, I decided to do a little research this morning, and found this site - www.islam-guide.com. Maybe it's watered down a bit, and it doesn't explain religious fanaticism. But at least I understand their religion a little bit better. Just thought I throw this out. At least for me, education and understanding goes a long way. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about On top of Revelation, the book of Daniel also makes for an interesting read. I'm not going to use this forum (or my employer's time) to proselytize. I would just encourage those who do not believe that the Bible is the word of God to maybe reconsider when Israel becomes involved in an all-out war in the Middle East. If I'm wrong and the war never happens, you can thumb your nose at me and laugh. But if I'm right and the war DOES happen, grab yourself a Bible and start reading it with the state of mind that it may not just be a book full of fiction after all. Intellectuality and faith are not mutually exclusive. That's all I'm going to say on the matter, so please withhold the flames (unless you want to send them to me personally off the list). John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Matthew Western [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Hi People, I'd just like to express sadness to all the people in the US effected by the attacks on US. I think it's disgusting and should be punished. While people everywhere are in a state of shock/uncertainty/fear it's worth thinking about where each of us are going to spend our eternal destiny. The Bible predicts basically a World War 3 where everyone will attack Israel and try to wipe them off the face off the earth... Revelation is an interesting book to read through Have a good day (and think about the following excert). Regards Matthew http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Script not running at login on win 98 clients
Title: Message none at all Jim Zangara, MCSE+I Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] One night I walked home very late and fell asleep in somebody's satellite dish. My dreams were showing up on TV's all over the world. -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: Peter Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:31 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Script not running at login on win 98 clients any errors in the Event Viewer? - Original Message - From: Zangara, Jim To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:18 PM Subject: RE: Script not running at login on win 98 clients script was working great until the hot fix - no replication - since it is only two servers I copied it manually to the appropriate directories. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Today I dialed a wrong number...The other person said, "Hello?" and I said, "Hello, could I speak to Joey?"...They said, "Uh...I don't think so...he's only 2 months old." I said, "I'll wait." -- Steven Wright -Original Message-From: Peter Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:18 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Script not running at login on win 98 clients Has the script ever run successfully? Is the replication set up to replicate the script between PDC and BDC? If so, have you set/changed the logon script location on the export server? Peter - Original Message - From: Zangara, Jim To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: Script not running at login on win 98 clients Hello - NT 4 SP6a Domain - Win 98 clients One PDC and one BDC both Win NT 4 SP6a Getting a strange problem here - Win 98 clients are authenticating to the domain because Outlook/Exchange is working fine but some of them do not get the login script to run. No Errors - it just doesn't go. If I go to the client and drill down through network neighborhood to the netlogin share of the PDC I get an access denied message. If I drill down to the netlogin share of the BDC I can run the script manually. If I reboot the PDC and do the same thing from the same client I can run it manually. I modified the two scripts and put the words PDC and BDC in each of the respective scripts to see where they are running from - from my test machine I have no issues but sometimes it runs from the BDC and sometimes from the PDC. Verified the netlogin share is set to everyone. This all started after applying the MS Security Rollup Hot fix. Has anyone else seen this problem? Searched MS and could only find the problem relating to win95 clients Q142672 that talks about command line parameters - that does not seem related. TIA Jim http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: win2k login script help
What is it you want to do? I may have one you can hack about to get your thing working - Original Message - From: Gareth Campling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:37 PM Subject: win2k login script help Hi all sorry for the newbie approach on this question but never touched login scripts has anyone got any links for a howto approach, ? just searching MS now but its grinding at a snail pace atm, so i thought turn to u lot out here -- Best regards, Gareth, MCP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: OT? perspective of events
Exactly. Much like in IT, no practical level of security measures will provide complete safety. What happens when we allow even small intrusions into our freedom is that those measure quickly become ineffective, requiring another, deeper intrusion. Over time our freedom is reduced to nil, and the populace is still under threat of attack. Pat-downs at an airport wont detect porcelain switchblades that can be hidden in the colon. Eric, would you like a full body cavity search before boarding a commercial airliner, or a subway terminal, or a restaurant? The answer is not to relinquish our freedoms, though I imagine that is what will happen. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events Give me 2 linemen in trench coats that have not shaved or showered in a few days. Get up tell everyone we have a bomb. That is all it would take. NO WEAPONS NEEDED, to hyjack a plane. How do you implement security to solve that problem? -Original Message- From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events I, for one, would be willing to trade in some conveniences, but not freedoms. I would be totally fine with MUCH more heightened security at airports. Do you realize it is LEGAL to carry a knife with a 4 blade onto a plane??? Because of people with pocket knives, my plane could get hijacked. I don't accept that. On several occasions as I traveled, security did not check what I put in the little dishes as I go through the metal detector's. I am asthmatic, and often carry an inhaler. I could have been mace, and I could have gotten it on board. Delaying passengers even an hour or two for every flight due to increased security checks is not much in my mind to reduce the risk of this ever happening again. Anywhere. -Original Message- From: Lentz, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events Andrew is absolutely correct. We should not give up even small measures of personal freedom for security. Doing so would prove terrorism against the US as a successful means of altering the American way of life, and thus America itself. We as a nation cannot allow that to happen. Wayne Lentz -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events ~ In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. ~ To me, this is the worse thing about terrorism. We lose what we cherish, and that is freedom. And many will accept this, because they think it will be better -- but it won't. A wise man once said: They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin == ASB - http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT == A nickel isn't worth a dime today. -- Yogi Berra. -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore. Today, I'm willing to accept some software black-box scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all for them. Many of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: OT? perspective of events
I think that after yesterday's events we would have to agree that nothing will be the same. One of the things that will change is how passengers perceive hijackings. Before yesterday passengers could assume that this was a fly me to Cuba and they had a chance of living through it. Rules have changed. A hijacking now could be a suicide mission, so unless the hijackers have very lethal weapons (read guns) there's 50 of us and 5 of them. I don't care if they are linebackers with knives, I know what I'm going to do and I think that a lot of people are going to think the same including the pilots and staff. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events Give me 2 linemen in trench coats that have not shaved or showered in a few days. Get up tell everyone we have a bomb. That is all it would take. NO WEAPONS NEEDED, to hyjack a plane. How do you implement security to solve that problem? -Original Message- From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events I, for one, would be willing to trade in some conveniences, but not freedoms. I would be totally fine with MUCH more heightened security at airports. Do you realize it is LEGAL to carry a knife with a 4 blade onto a plane??? Because of people with pocket knives, my plane could get hijacked. I don't accept that. On several occasions as I traveled, security did not check what I put in the little dishes as I go through the metal detector's. I am asthmatic, and often carry an inhaler. I could have been mace, and I could have gotten it on board. Delaying passengers even an hour or two for every flight due to increased security checks is not much in my mind to reduce the risk of this ever happening again. Anywhere. -Original Message- From: Lentz, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events Andrew is absolutely correct. We should not give up even small measures of personal freedom for security. Doing so would prove terrorism against the US as a successful means of altering the American way of life, and thus America itself. We as a nation cannot allow that to happen. Wayne Lentz -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events ~ In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. ~ To me, this is the worse thing about terrorism. We lose what we cherish, and that is freedom. And many will accept this, because they think it will be better -- but it won't. A wise man once said: They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin == ASB - http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT == A nickel isn't worth a dime today. -- Yogi Berra. -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT? perspective of events My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of us indirectly affected. Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions - in recent months there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom and privacy. As IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know if someone had asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against Carnivore. Today, I'm willing to accept some software black-box scanning my email looking for suspicious activity. Thoughts? BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all for them. Many of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like the off topic discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Trust me. By the time Pearl Harbor was involved, it was a forgone conclusion that America was involved on both fronts. We were already sending raw materials and weapons (guns, tanks, planes, etc.). All that was missing was our people to shoot, drive, and fly them. America declared war on Japan but had already committed to everything but headcount on the other front also. Again, I would like to point out though that this is exactly what Europe had asked for. Perhaps America needs to revisit this policy of helping out rather than stepping-in and trying to solve everything. Although in this case, war was the eventual outcome (and of Kuwait also), this is not necessarily true of Bosnia, Somalia and a host of others that we got involved in. Of course those are my 2 cents. Maybe people looking back in 50 years will know things we don't. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/01 10:13AM Except that the US declared war on Japan only. Germany and Italy declared war on the US after that. -Original Message- From: Horst Hinz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack OK, I don't want to get into a huge debate or anything, but if I remember my history correctly, America was sitting out WWII until Pearl Harbour. Sure they provided equipment to the British, but Europe was on it's own until someone hit the US and THEIR security was threatened. So in effect, America was fighting for itself as well. -Original Message- From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack We all won the war... The Allies. Their decendants. Those of us here. We all lost people in WWII. The point being here that until America entered into the fray, it was not boding well for ALL of Europe. Numerous countries were defeated and had already surrendered. Yes, we all won the war, but we all weren't responsible for that win as many of the teams had already left the playing field. And it obviously wasn't going well before America got involved. This goes back to the point that America does care about it's neighbors. We all won the war... seems a little flippant and not in understanding with what was going on at the time. I can tell you that we WEREN'T all winning the war until America came over and gave it's kids for foreign soil. Europeans were fighting to protect themselves. Americans were fighting for Europeans, our neighbors. To now say that we wouldn't care if this (the terrorist attack) had happened anywhere in the world is just silly. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm