Re: Seeking advice on photographing cyclists

2006-02-22 Thread John Francis

I'd have preferred it without the idiot in the road, myself.

But that was the only opportunity I had.  I chose the spot
(on the outside of the curve, contrary to some suggestions)
so that I could get the riders in sunlight - the tall buildings
meant that a lot of the downtown stuff was in shadow.  Of course
when I set up the shot I had a clear view of quite a bit of the
turn - the foreground obstruction only stepped out at the last
minute, by which time I was committed to the shot.

Still, all in all, not too bad for my first attempt at bikes.
That was, of course, my first race shot of the day - it's
amazing how often your best shot is the first (or last) frame.

Time trials tomorrow.  It doesn't look as though it will be
possible to get from the start to the finish once the trials
get under way, so I'll probably concentrate on the finish area
again.  Perhaps I might even get George Hincapie (stage winner)
to sign a print.


On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:37:12PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:
 Hey John,
 
 Rather nice shot.  I'm trying to decide if the person in the yellow
 adds or detracts from the shot.  I like the framing on this one.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 
 Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 5:39:36 PM, you wrote:
 
 
 
 JF Thanks to all who offered helpful advice.
 
 JF Here's a shot of the race leaders rounding the final turn:
 
 JF http://essence.goldenware.com/~johnf/amgen800.jpg
 
 JF Obviously  I can't have used my *ist-D for this, because -
 JF as we're continually told - the *ist-D is no use for sports.
 
 JF Maybe I borrowed the D200 that the guy next to me was using.
 JF Man, the rear screen on that thing looks _enormous_ !!
 



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:53:24PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay
 Aquarium for some R n R.  Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been on
 my to do list for a while.  Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any
 suggestions?
 
 I found these pics, but boy, are they poor quality 
 
 http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html

If you think those are poor quality, then you're probably not going
to get anything you like.  While I'm not too impressed by the first
few images in that gallery, I find the later ones (especially 4  7)
to be pretty good.   They're certainly better than anything that I
managed to get.  Admittedly that was before I had the digital body,
so I was probably shooting Portra 800 with a 50mm/f1.4 lens, using
a monopod to get exposure times down around 1/4 of a second.



RE: Seeking advice on photographing cyclists

2006-02-22 Thread Bob W

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 February 2006 06:37
 To: John Francis
 Subject: Re: Seeking advice on photographing cyclists
 
 Hey John,
 
 Rather nice shot.  I'm trying to decide if the person in the 
 yellow adds or detracts from the shot.  I like the framing on 
 this one.
 

those cyclists really ought to stop to let that person across the road.
Don't they know their Highway Code?

Dramatic shot though.

--
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Shel,

Just got back from there on Saturday.  I can tell you two things not
to do.  1) Don't go with the kids - mine were constantly wanting to
move on.  2) Don't go when the aquarium is jam packed (like Saturday).
The crowds make it difficult to shoot.

So for me not really being prepared to shoot, here is probably the
best shot I managed.  I only had the DA 16-45/4 lens with me, so speed
was an issue.

Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
ISO 1600, 1/60 sec @ f/4.0, 45mm

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2912.htm

You'll notice I was shooting ISO 1600 wide open and only getting 1/60
sec.  It is fairly dim and this particular tank is probably the best
lit.  So fast glass would be helpful.  Also the focal length range I
shot was between about 18mm and 45mm, so an 18, 24 and 50 would about
cover you.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 10:53:24 PM, you wrote:

SB I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay
SB Aquarium for some R n R.  Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been on
SB my to do list for a while.  Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any
SB suggestions?

SB I found these pics, but boy, are they poor quality 

SB http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html


SB Shel






Re: Sigma 170-500 APO

2006-02-22 Thread John Whittingham
 The two low points for the lens is the slow max aperture and the
 length it extends when zoomed.  It is not a lens that can be used
 handheld (over 300mm), nor is it very useful for sporting events (due
 to the speed).
 
 I find that I get more use from my APO 300/F4.  When I need the extra
 reach the APO 1.4x in combo with the 300 gives a little better 
 results compared to the 170-500, in a package that is easier to 
 manage.  Of course this combo only reaches 420mm so it is not an perfect
 replacement for the 500mm.

I have the 135-400, the speed is a little better but the extension when 
zoomed is troublesome. I occasionally use the lens as a wakkabout lens for 
wildlife.

Regarding the 300 f/4 APO, this is a fine lens, it's a varifocal design, at 
infinity it is reported to be 321mm in focal length IIRC making the lens 
around 450mm when fitted with the 1.4 EX converter and focused at infinity.

Regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

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Pentax K2 stuck shutter anyone?

2006-02-22 Thread John Whittingham
Hi all

I recently acquired a Pentax K2 in prisine condition cosmetically but with 
the shutter stuck and mirror up. I have a fresh set of batteries in and the 
meter is working but I can't get the shutter to trip even on the manual 
speeds, unfortunately I don't have the users handbook for reference. Any 
suggestions? Am I missing something?

Any help much appreciated.

Best regards,

John

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Re: Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/02/22 Wed AM 08:24:03 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Photographing the Jellies
 
 On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:53:24PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
  I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay
  Aquarium for some R n R.  Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been on
  my to do list for a while.  Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any
  suggestions?
  
  I found these pics, but boy, are they poor quality 
  
  http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html
 
 If you think those are poor quality, then you're probably not going
 to get anything you like.  While I'm not too impressed by the first
 few images in that gallery, I find the later ones (especially 4  7)
 to be pretty good.   They're certainly better than anything that I
 managed to get.  Admittedly that was before I had the digital body,
 so I was probably shooting Portra 800 with a 50mm/f1.4 lens, using
 a monopod to get exposure times down around 1/4 of a second.
 
I'm astonished at the lack of distortion from the aquarium glass/plastic.  This 
is one of my better ones from a trip to a local aquarium.
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/2593285
mike


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Re: RE: Seeking advice on photographing cyclists

2006-02-22 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/02/22 Wed AM 08:31:56 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: Seeking advice on photographing cyclists
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 22 February 2006 06:37
  To: John Francis
  Subject: Re: Seeking advice on photographing cyclists
  
  Hey John,
  
  Rather nice shot.  I'm trying to decide if the person in the 
  yellow adds or detracts from the shot.  I like the framing on 
  this one.
  
 
 those cyclists really ought to stop to let that person across the road.
 Don't they know their Highway Code?
 

They're couriers.  Non-applicable legislation. 8-)


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hotbuyselectronics.com

2006-02-22 Thread Bob Shell
A friend found a lens he has been looking for on this company's web  
site.  Anyone here know anything about hotbuyselectronics.com ?  They  
have prices that seem to be too good to be true and claim to have  
stock of things no one else has.  My gut feeling is that they are  
probably scammers.


Bob



Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-22 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 21, 2006, at 11:07 PM, Gonz wrote:

Thinking that the universe must have a beginning is a very narrow  
and  human construct.  We live trapped in time, so we have a  
problem with  something like God that exists outside of time.   
Outside of time, the  terms beginning and end are  
meaningless.  We need to broaden our  minds and accept the  
possibility that the universe just is.  There is  no necessity for  
beginning, end, or creator.


Hmm.  I wonder if this is why in the Bible, God refers to himself  
as the Alpha and the Omega.  In other words, the beginning and  
the end. I.e., no time.





Maybe.  Wasn't it Jesus who said that?

Bob



Re: *IST-D / DS High speed action!

2006-02-22 Thread Patrick Genovese
Hi everyone,

Interesting comments and quite illuminating with respect to what's
really important.

I've been shooting some of this stuff with my MZ-S with varying
success rates.  for example. Jumps are a no brainer you can easily
pre-focus. panning action is tougher espeically if you're up close
because the relative speed is very high.   The nice thing
about shooting up close is that wide angle shots make for interesting
compositions.

Normally i shoot short bursts of 2 - 5 shots (using film) and manage
to get at least one decent / usable shot from each burst.  The length
of the burst will usually depend on where I am relative to the bike. 
Based on the comments received the buffer will probably be an issue
because one would want to shoot several short bursts in quick
succession especially at the starts of a race when all the bikes are
clumped up together.


Regards

Patrick

On 2/21/06, Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I tend to be a lurker most of the time but I surface every now and
 again with a query or two.

 I'm seriously considering an ist-d or ist-ds enablement and have a
 question i'd like to throw your way.

 It concerns the suitability of the ist-d/ds for certain types of
 shooting.  Namely fast action sports such as Motocross / Skateboarding
 / BMX etc  I will be able go get very close to the action so the
 lenses that I would typically use are short zooms  e.g 16-45  and
 maybe 70-200 probably a sigma 70-200.

 Comments welcome especially from list members with hands on experience
 shooting this type of sports.

 --
 Regards

 Patrick Genovese



--
Regards

Patrick Genovese



Re: hotbuyselectronics.com

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A friend found a lens he has been looking for on this company's web  
site.  Anyone here know anything about hotbuyselectronics.com ?  They  
have prices that seem to be too good to be true and claim to have  
stock of things no one else has.  My gut feeling is that they are  
probably scammers.

Well this certainly doesn't look good:
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller_info.pl?seller_id=1938
Only 112 ratings, but an average score of 1.12 out of 10 is worrying to
say the least!
Read the comments and be afraid...
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Graphic Tablet Recommendations?

2006-02-22 Thread Patrick Genovese
I have a wacom Intuos 3 and have recently used the graphire 3 model.
While both are good products I do not regret shelling out the extra
cash for the intuos. The tactile feel of the intuos is so much better.
Its the little stuff like the weight and balance of the pen the
friction on the active area etc.. that make the difference.  Also the
intuos has the touch strips / keys that I find very useful.

The intuos I have is the 6x11 (a5 wide) but that's only because I use
a dual screen setup.  the standard a5 one is the one I would reccomend
on a single screen system.  I would not reccomend going for bigger
than a5 size because:

1. Normal operations with the pen (such as using winddows apps) will
require big sweeping arm movements.  This is because the tablet maps
to the screen area. This means that the top left corner of the tablet
maps to the top left corner of your screen.

2. The a4 takes up huge amounts of desk space.  Even my a5 wide is a
bit on the big side.

3. You will find that a5 is the most popular size for use with PS.

Hope this helps feel free to e-mail me if you have specific questions.

Regards

Patrick

 From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject:
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

 I'm considering purchasing a graphics tablet for use with Photoshop.  I've
 been looking at the WACOM Graphire 3  4 (6 x 8).

 Does anyone have any anecdotal experience they can relay?  What's the
 difference between the '3' model and the '4' model?  It looks like the '4'
 is twice the price, but LPI, accuracy and sensitivity appear to be identical
 to the '3' (at least on the BH website).

 Any other manufacturers I might want to consider?

 Thanks.

 Tom C.




Re: *IST-D / DS High speed action!

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/21/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 and polish your skin...

 Now that's just *weird*.

You ~do~ know to whom I was referring, don't you?  The man with the
shiniest skin in history:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Seeking advice on photographing cyclists

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/21/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice shot. That must be Frank leading the pack, no?

I wish...

LOL

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Graphic Tablet Recommendations?

2006-02-22 Thread Doug Franklin

Patrick Genovese wrote:


1. Normal operations with the pen (such as using winddows
apps) will require big sweeping arm movements.  This is
because the tablet maps to the screen area. This means
that the top left corner of the tablet maps to the top
left corner of your screen.


Actually, at least on the Intuos2, you can choose the mapping mode for 
the surface of the tablet, and it can be different for the pen and the 
mouse.  One mode is absolute where the corners of the pad area are the 
corners of the screen, as Patrick describes, but you can also put it in 
relative mode where it works more like a ball mouse.  That is, you can 
pick the pen or mouse up off the tablet and move it without moving the 
cursor.




RE: Pentax K2 stuck shutter anyone?

2006-02-22 Thread Don Sanderson
Hi John, I have one behaving the same way.
I can force it to cock but it locks up every time.
I'm convinced it's electronic but haven't had time to
dig deeper.
The owners manual can be found here:
http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/K2.pdf

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:14 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Pentax K2 stuck shutter anyone?
 
 
 Hi all
 
 I recently acquired a Pentax K2 in prisine condition cosmetically 
 but with 
 the shutter stuck and mirror up. I have a fresh set of batteries 
 in and the 
 meter is working but I can't get the shutter to trip even on the manual 
 speeds, unfortunately I don't have the users handbook for reference. Any 
 suggestions? Am I missing something?
 
 Any help much appreciated.
 
 Best regards,
 
 John
 
 John Whittingham
 
 Technician
 
 you can't be optimistic with a misty optic
 
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Re: hotbuyselectronics.com

2006-02-22 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 22, 2006, at 7:47 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Well this certainly doesn't look good:
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller_info.pl?seller_id=1938
Only 112 ratings, but an average score of 1.12 out of 10 is  
worrying to

say the least!
Read the comments and be afraid...



Thanks.  I'll forward to my friend.

Bob



RE: Question: Should I buy an ist D?

2006-02-22 Thread Jens Bladt
For panoramas, WB should not be in Auto.
If it is, the WB may very well change from shot to shot, and you'll never
the the same value/WB in all the frames of a sequence.
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: John Coyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 22. februar 2006 08:00
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Question: Should I buy an ist D?


Hi Shel - responses interspersed
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message -

From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't see it that way, but then I'm not constantly fiddling around with
 the settings.

 Actually, if left on Auto, white balance never needs to be touched, and
 even if it's set to the wrong balance, it's a simple movement of a
 slider
 in ACR (and, I suppose, other RAW converters) to bring the WB where it
 needs to be.

Generally speaking, you are perfectly right - I do seldom take the WB off
auto.  I think I might have changed it a couple of times when I was getting
a colour cast in mixed lighting, to favour the dominant source.  Hong Kong
airport interiors was an example, with both tungsten, fluorescent and halide
lighting in shot!

 Metering is a personal thing, but, speaking for myself, I rarely change
 the
 metering mode, and will only use spot or center-weighted anyway.  While I
 can understand wanting to change the metering mode, it's hard for me, with
 my experience and shooting style, to understand why one would want to
 change it frequently.  How often do you change the metering mode, John,
 and
 under what circumstances?

I will vary between all three modes dependent upon my assessment of the
areas I want to place as mid-greys (or the colour wquivalent thereof!), just
as I will adjust the bracketing and/or exposure compensation, based on
experience or results obtained.


 BTW, if you've not spent some time ~using~ the DS/2, it's understandable
 that you'd think using the menu system to make those changes is time
 consuming or difficult.  Once the camera became familiar to me, making
 those changes was easy and quick.

I appreciate that that is true for you Shel - I would find it a pain to have
to go into the menu for something which may affect my ability to get the
shot that I want.  I have the three configuration sets set up the way that I
like it, and having to do more than switch between sets is not something I
feel I would like to do too often.

I guess the bottom line is that YMMV!


 Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: John Coyle

 What Mark said, in spades!  And I would just add that the burying of
 control
 features such as white balance and spot metering in the menu system in
 the
 DS/DL variants was a big mistake, IMO.  I modify these settings
 frequently
 enough so that it would be a real PITA to have to work through the menu.



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Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bruce,

Well, I won't be taking any kids, and my schedule allows mid-week visits.
I'd probably go on a Tuesday or Wednesday, and try to get in as close to
opening time as possible.

Not sure if I'll have replaced the digi by then, although I'd like to try
it for this project.

Your shot's quite nice ... imo, better than anything in the gallery I
posted.  However, I'd like to get wider shots, showing more of the tank and
work towards finding interesting patterns amongst the fish, rather than
getting individual fish or small, closely packed, groups.  That  may
require film as there's no Pentax digi lens that I have access to that
would be wide enough for such shots.  A couple of people have offered to
loan me a 15mm lens, and that, on a film body, would be the widest I could
go, unless I grab a Zenitar at some point.

I don't remember how close you can get to the glass.  Are you able to get
right up against it?

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton 

 Just got back from there on Saturday.  I can tell you two things not
 to do.  1) Don't go with the kids - mine were constantly wanting to
 move on.  2) Don't go when the aquarium is jam packed (like Saturday).
 The crowds make it difficult to shoot.

 So for me not really being prepared to shoot, here is probably the
 best shot I managed.  I only had the DA 16-45/4 lens with me, so speed
 was an issue.

 Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
 ISO 1600, 1/60 sec @ f/4.0, 45mm

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2912.htm

 You'll notice I was shooting ISO 1600 wide open and only getting 1/60
 sec.  It is fairly dim and this particular tank is probably the best
 lit.  So fast glass would be helpful.  Also the focal length range I
 shot was between about 18mm and 45mm, so an 18, 24 and 50 would about
 cover you.

 -- 

 Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 10:53:24 PM, you wrote:

 I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay
 Aquarium for some R n R.  Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been on
 my to do list for a while.  Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any
 suggestions?

 I found these pics, but boy, are they poor quality 

 http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html




Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I believe that I can make better photos than the
fellow who put up that gallery, and that I'll be able to get better shots,
and better quality shots.  Nothing like a little hubris first thing in the
AM, eh LOL

Do you think digital would have helped you get better results?  In what way?

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: John Francis 

 On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:53:24PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
  I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay
  Aquarium for some R n R.  Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been
on
  my to do list for a while.  Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any
  suggestions?
  
  I found these pics, but boy, are they poor quality 
  
  http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html

 If you think those are poor quality, then you're probably not going
 to get anything you like.  While I'm not too impressed by the first
 few images in that gallery, I find the later ones (especially 4  7)
 to be pretty good.   They're certainly better than anything that I
 managed to get.  Admittedly that was before I had the digital body,
 so I was probably shooting Portra 800 with a 50mm/f1.4 lens, using
 a monopod to get exposure times down around 1/4 of a second.




Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Christian

Bruce Dayton wrote:


http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2912.htm


That's an awesome shot, Bruce.  Well done!

The best way to photograph jellies is under controlled studio lighting 
in small aquariums that limit the animal's movement.  Obviously not 
possible in a public place.  I think Bruce made the best of the 
situation:  High ISO and wide open.  Use as wide an angle lens as you 
can and get up right on the glass to avoid reflections.


--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
At the Monterey Bay Aquarium, you can get right up to the glass on  
most of the Outer Bay exhibits.


Bring a monopod with a ball head or flex head on it. A tripod is  
unwieldy in the often crowded, dimly lit areas, but a monopod will be  
fine. Light levels are low and you need something to stabilize the  
camera. This one was taken with a Panasonic FZ10 .. small sensor  
cameras are surely not at their best in these very low light  
circumstances:


  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/Others4/source/girl-and- 
jellies-0507.htm


The *ist DS will do a LOT better.

I plan another trip to the Aquarium someday soon; it's one of my  
favorite places and I haven't been there in way too long. I gave a  
funding contribution in my mother's name to the creation of the Outer  
Bay exhibit halls as a christmas gift some years ago... the jellies  
and the big tank are things that I especially love. I can stand in  
the light of the big tank for hours and never be bored. :-)


Godfrey




Re: Seeking advice on photographing cyclists

2006-02-22 Thread David Savage
On 2/22/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice shot. That must be Frank leading the pack, no?
 Paul

Frank's the one in the bright top leading the charge to the pub across
the street. All of a sudden these yahoos on treadlies got in the way.

Dave g



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread David Savage
That's a cool shot Bruce.

Dave

On 2/22/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
 ISO 1600, 1/60 sec @ f/4.0, 45mm

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2912.htm



Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=83611forum_id=80
This year's Pentax + Samsung booth on PMA fair is about as big as Canon's
one so who knows? ;-)

This is pretty much what I and a couple of others said to expect as a
PMA announcement weeks ago. We got a lot of No, we won't hear anything
until Photokina responses. Some people never learn :)
 
 
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Photography and writing
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Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-22 Thread Thibouille
Maybe it will just be announced now, just like the 645 Digital has
been annonced with couple basic specs but would be ready later?
Maybe lenses?

2006/2/22, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=83611forum_id=80
 This year's Pentax + Samsung booth on PMA fair is about as big as Canon's
 one so who knows? ;-)

 This is pretty much what I and a couple of others said to expect as a
 PMA announcement weeks ago. We got a lot of No, we won't hear anything
 until Photokina responses. Some people never learn :)


 --
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 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com




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Looking for a mechanical K Pentax body

2006-02-22 Thread Thibouille
MX preferably but KM/KX also accepted.
Make me an offer I can refuse ;)

Note: shipping would be to Belgium.

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RE: Pentax K2 stuck shutter anyone?

2006-02-22 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Don

 Hi John, I have one behaving the same way.
 I can force it to cock but it locks up every time.
 I'm convinced it's electronic but haven't had time to
 dig deeper.
 The owners manual can be found here:
 http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/K2.pdf


Sorry to here it. I've noticed that the film rewind pin on the base is stuck 
in, I'm wondering if that has anything to do with it, I doubt it but I may 
take the base off for a look. I've got the owners and service manuals now 
(thanks Lucas) the ASA dial is a PITA, two handed job! Found the mirror lock 
up button also (I'm used to the KX arrangement) I really can't complain the 
camera came with an ERC and copy of AP test report KM, KX  K2 for £9.50! if 
it needs a CLA I'd still be happy with it, virtually unmarked condition.

Regards,

John

John Whittingham

Technician

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Re: Poll: Best Photo Ever

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/20/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great shot. What a look and very well executed.

I've been looking at all these wonderful photos that people have been
posting over the last week or so, and I have to say that I'm most
impressed with all of them.  I understand that favourite and best
are completely different, and I also understand that these things
change over time:  photos float onto or off lists, often more than
once.

I was surprised at some shots that ~weren't~ included - one that comes
to mind was taken by Gianfranco of a couple on a Vespa in a rainstorm,
one that he took with one hand, out the window of a passing car.  And
Boris' geometric photo of the table and chair in front of the
rectangular window frame (taken with a soft focus lens, BTW), that one
comes to mind as well.  I guess when one takes as many as most on this
list, it's hard to narrow it down to just one.

Still, it's interesting and inspiring to see what folks think of as
their best or favourite works.  Thanks for participating!

cheers,
frank
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Re: Question: Should I buy an ist D?

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For panoramas, WB should not be in Auto.

Only if you're shooting JPEGs.

If it is, the WB may very well change from shot to shot, and you'll never
the the same value/WB in all the frames of a sequence.

Unless you're shooting in RAW mode, in which case you just set the white
balance the same way for every shot when converting.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



SV: *IST-D / DS High speed action!

2006-02-22 Thread Jens Bladt
Patrick.
You are not mentioning the speed of the lenses below. The speed is crucial.
Anything slower than F. 2.8 is not suitable for action photography IMO.

Sports  photographer Jerry Lodriguss recommendations regarding equipment
focuses on lenses faster than or equal to F. 2.8, and I tend to agree with
him:

Most professional sports photographers have the following set of equipment:

3 top-of-the-line digital camera bodies, such as the Canon 1D or Nikon D2H
($3,000 each)
6 Extra batteries ($100 each)
Extreme wide angle 14mm f/2.8 ($1,400)
Wide angle zoom lens 17 - 35mm f/2.8 ($1,400)
Fast short telephoto 85mm f/1.4 ($900)
Telephoto zoom 70-200 f/2.8 ($1,500)
Fast Telephoto 300mm f/2.8 ($4,400)
Fast Long Telephoto 400mm f/2.8 ($7,700)
Teleconverter 1.4x ($450)
Teleconverter 2x ($450)
2 Monopods ($150 each)
Tripod ($450)
2 Flashes ($400 each)
Radio Remotes ($300)
Light stands, umbrellas, misc lighting equipment ($500)
Laptop with extra ram ($2,500)
Photoshop ($600)
Other software ($500)
Rolling camera case ($300)
Rain gear ($500)

Total: $34,000

Of course you may get along fine with less than this huge amount of gear.
As far as speed goes, the only alternatives to fast lenses is high ISO
values (more digital noise or grain) or using a flash, which is not very
attractive (slow focusing and annoying for the athletes).

Regards
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Patrick Genovese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. februar 2006 19:15
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: *IST-D / DS  High speed action!


Hi,

I tend to be a lurker most of the time but I surface every now and
again with a query or two.

I'm seriously considering an ist-d or ist-ds enablement and have a
question i'd like to throw your way.

It concerns the suitability of the ist-d/ds for certain types of
shooting.  Namely fast action sports such as Motocross / Skateboarding
/ BMX etc  I will be able go get very close to the action so the
lenses that I would typically use are short zooms  e.g 16-45  and
maybe 70-200 probably a sigma 70-200.

Comments welcome especially from list members with hands on experience
shooting this type of sports.

--
Regards

Patrick Genovese

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Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-22 Thread Jack Davis
Mark, I'm pleased to read that there seems to be a general feeling that
the rumor is true. It may be due to an expected significant pixel count
jump as a reward for our long wait.

Jack

--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=83611forum_id=80
 This year's Pentax + Samsung booth on PMA fair is about as big as
 Canon's
 one so who knows? ;-)
 
 This is pretty much what I and a couple of others said to expect as a
 PMA announcement weeks ago. We got a lot of No, we won't hear
 anything
 until Photokina responses. Some people never learn :)
  
  
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 Photography and writing
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Re: PESO - My Lonely Ass (On the Way to Work)

2006-02-22 Thread Tom C
Thanks to Boris, Paul, Mark, Ken, Frank, Rick and others who took the time 
to provide feedback on the photo.  Much apprciated.



Tom C.



From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - My Lonely Ass (On the Way to Work)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:57:05 -0500

frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2/21/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've liked Rick Womer's On the Way to Work theme as it provides a 
little
 glimpse into his daily life.  His way to work is far different from 
mine,
 walking past suburban areas, cemeteries and the like, full of human 
history.


 This is one of the things I see on the 20 mile drive to work.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4147790

Great shot.

I actually like the fact that it's soft.

You would!

Adds to the atmosphere, and says something about my preference in asses, 
I guess.


There are some things we just don't need to know...

Seriously, a lovely photo, Tom.

That's true!


--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com






Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Shel,

You can get right up to the glass if you want.  The shot I showed was
not against the glass.  One of the biggest problems you are going to
have is that the jellies are always moving.  You can't have too slow
of a shutter speed.  This is where digital would do way better than
film.  One is you get much better high speed quality (800+) and two is
being able to review the images to determine your slowest usable
shutter speed.  With film, you might need to do it in two rounds to
determine that.

This is a case, where there is no substitute for speed.  You need
reasonable shutter speeds and you need reasonable DOF.  The only way
to get that is with high sensitivity of the medium.  This is a realm
where digital would do better.  There are many different tanks, most
of them quite small, with many different jellies in them.  Most tanks
are not as well lit as the big one and most of the jellies look more
white/translucent so you are getting just a white on blue look to
them.  If it were not busy, you could probably stand back from the big
tank and take a wide shot that got many jellies in it without much
glare - the room is quite dark so you don't see any reflections.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Wednesday, February 22, 2006, 6:54:59 AM, you wrote:

SB Hi Bruce,

SB Well, I won't be taking any kids, and my schedule allows mid-week visits.
SB I'd probably go on a Tuesday or Wednesday, and try to get in as close to
SB opening time as possible.

SB Not sure if I'll have replaced the digi by then, although I'd like to try
SB it for this project.

SB Your shot's quite nice ... imo, better than anything in the gallery I
SB posted.  However, I'd like to get wider shots, showing more of the tank and
SB work towards finding interesting patterns amongst the fish, rather than
SB getting individual fish or small, closely packed, groups.  That  may
SB require film as there's no Pentax digi lens that I have access to that
SB would be wide enough for such shots.  A couple of people have offered to
SB loan me a 15mm lens, and that, on a film body, would be the widest I could
SB go, unless I grab a Zenitar at some point.

SB I don't remember how close you can get to the glass.  Are you able to get
SB right up against it?

SB Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton 

 Just got back from there on Saturday.  I can tell you two things not
 to do.  1) Don't go with the kids - mine were constantly wanting to
 move on.  2) Don't go when the aquarium is jam packed (like Saturday).
 The crowds make it difficult to shoot.

 So for me not really being prepared to shoot, here is probably the
 best shot I managed.  I only had the DA 16-45/4 lens with me, so speed
 was an issue.

 Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
 ISO 1600, 1/60 sec @ f/4.0, 45mm

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2912.htm

 You'll notice I was shooting ISO 1600 wide open and only getting 1/60
 sec.  It is fairly dim and this particular tank is probably the best
 lit.  So fast glass would be helpful.  Also the focal length range I
 shot was between about 18mm and 45mm, so an 18, 24 and 50 would about
 cover you.

 -- 

 Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 10:53:24 PM, you wrote:

 I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay
 Aquarium for some R n R.  Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been on
 my to do list for a while.  Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any
 suggestions?

 I found these pics, but boy, are they poor quality 

 http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html





Re: PESO - Pura Reserve (4)

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/22/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Frank, you over-compliment me ;-). There is very little to this shot.
 This time of year in Israel one can walk by the road and collect very
 nice flower shots by the dozen.

First of all, Boris, just because there may be thousands of
opportunities for a photo does not mean that every capture will be
well-executed (as yours is).

Secondly, because a photo is simple in concept and understated in its
elegance, that does not mean that it can be an outstanding shot (as
yours is).

Third, the amount of effort expended on a particular shot is not
always commensurate with its quality.  That goes both ways;  there are
photos that I've worked like a bugger on that just never panned out,
and some that I've shot from the hip with virtually no preparation
that are on my top 10 list.  OTOH, it could be said that for some of
those spontaneous grabs that years of experience and learning come
into the equation, but again, that's not always the case.

Just a few thoughts...

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



FS: K24/3.5

2006-02-22 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

Excellent glass  mechanics.
User condition externally.
$200 shipped.

Collin

He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose
-- Jim Elliott



Question re: K24/3.5

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Is the 3.5 a better lens than the 2.8?

Shel




It's fixed - Re: How to remove ME winding lever?

2006-02-22 Thread Jon Myers
Finally got it apart. Found a stray scrap of metal of
some sort - no idea what it broke off of. It's in the
shape of a thin tab with a bump like a contact of some
sort in the end. It had gotten in the works in the
bottom of the body, jamming the mechanism. Removed it
and the camera functions normally again, or so it
seems. 

Only problem I see now is the winding lever and cap
are rather badly gashed up. I got impatient and used a
bit of an industrial strength tool on the cap that put
a deep gash in it as well as some scratches on the
lever. I'd like to find replacements for these, if
anyone has somewhat minty ones lying around. 

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Re: Peso Tiger Woods meet Chainsaw in the woods

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:20:09 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey troops.

 First Raw proccessing from the Snow Golf.

 http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/Wagg%20Road%20Open%202006/?action=viewcurrent=chainsaw-woods.jpg


 This is me, Frank can verify, and this was the shot that won us the Tourny. 
 Landed this
 one inches
 from the cup.

 And yes, thats a beer in the back pocket. You don't think we do this sober do 
 ya.

 LOL


Yes, I can attest, that's Dave alright!  LOL

I'd like to see Tiger with that bulky cold-weather gear on, in the
snow, trying to get out of those trees.  g

Fun shot, Dave.  Who took it?

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



PAW - Shy

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
Yet another to add to my public payphone collection.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4112142size=lg

Comments are always appreciated.

cheers,
frank, who's going to be with children this weekend, so this is
actually next week's PAW a bit early...

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - Fall Morning at a Michigan Lake

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/14/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check out

 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html


 All comments solicited

 Yeah, nay, and/or otherwise

 What would you do differently?


I could have sworn that I commented on this one already, but I don't
see my reply among the list of other respondants, so I'll say (again)
that I like this one a lot.

Just beautiful!

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



SMC K 30mm/2.8 vs. FA 35/2.0 lens

2006-02-22 Thread akozak
Hi All,
I own SMC K 30mm/2.8 lens and use it for slides. But consider dslr so 45m
angle would be very nice indeed. But...what about FA35/2.0 as standard
lens?What about optical performance between two?Which one is sharper and
has better bokeh?What about color rendition?Has anyone had both and could
tell which is better?IS 30mm better than FA 28mm and SMC K28/3.5?
Thank you very much for help.
Greetings
Alek



Re: PAW - Shy

2006-02-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Mildly amusing.  I'm not much of a fan of the hand in the face shot -
probably because I have so many of them of my wife.

-- 
Bruce


Wednesday, February 22, 2006, 9:03:23 AM, you wrote:

ft Yet another to add to my public payphone collection.

ft http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4112142size=lg

ft Comments are always appreciated.

ft cheers,
ft frank, who's going to be with children this weekend, so this is
ft actually next week's PAW a bit early...

ft --
ft Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson




Re: PESO series: Piedmont - Salisbury

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/14/06, Jon Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Amtrak's Piedmont making a very quick stop in
 Salisbury, NC - Dec 31, 2005. Three shots in the dark.
 Pretty good for guesswork regarding shutter time, I
 think...

 A3000 with A50/2.

 http://slacky.railyakuza.com/peso/

Very cool shots!

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread John Francis

Digital is at it's best when dealing with large, uniform expanses
such as the blue of the jellyfish tanks; the noise from high-ISO
film shows up rather too much for my liking.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 07:02:11AM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 Hi John,
 
 Thanks for your input.  I believe that I can make better photos than the
 fellow who put up that gallery, and that I'll be able to get better shots,
 and better quality shots.  Nothing like a little hubris first thing in the
 AM, eh LOL
 
 Do you think digital would have helped you get better results?  In what way?
 
 Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: John Francis 
 
  On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:53:24PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
   I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay
   Aquarium for some R n R.  Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been
 on
   my to do list for a while.  Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any
   suggestions?
   
   I found these pics, but boy, are they poor quality 
   
   http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html
 
  If you think those are poor quality, then you're probably not going
  to get anything you like.  While I'm not too impressed by the first
  few images in that gallery, I find the later ones (especially 4  7)
  to be pretty good.   They're certainly better than anything that I
  managed to get.  Admittedly that was before I had the digital body,
  so I was probably shooting Portra 800 with a 50mm/f1.4 lens, using
  a monopod to get exposure times down around 1/4 of a second.
 



Re: PAW - Shy

2006-02-22 Thread pnstenquist
Nice. The shadow and resonse of the subject make it interesting. Did said 
subject complain?
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yet another to add to my public payphone collection.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4112142size=lg
 
 Comments are always appreciated.
 
 cheers,
 frank, who's going to be with children this weekend, so this is
 actually next week's PAW a bit early...
 
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 



Re: PESO - Fall Morning at a Michigan Lake

2006-02-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Frank, thanks. You did comment on the previous PESO of mine, similar but not 
the same image.


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: PESO - Fall Morning at a Michigan Lake



On 2/14/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Check out

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html


All comments solicited

Yeah, nay, and/or otherwise

What would you do differently?



I could have sworn that I commented on this one already, but I don't
see my reply among the list of other respondants, so I'll say (again)
that I like this one a lot.

Just beautiful!

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: PAW - Shy

2006-02-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Frank, was this what you were looking for (person in image) or did he/she 
just happen to walk into your scene?


I'm not sure I get this one. The emphasis here seems to be on the 
pedestrian, not the phone.


I guess that's the TOLL we have to pay. BG

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PAW - Shy



Yet another to add to my public payphone collection.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4112142size=lg

Comments are always appreciated.

cheers,
frank, who's going to be with children this weekend, so this is
actually next week's PAW a bit early...

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





RE: Peso Tiger Woods meet Chainsaw in the woods

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
With a lie like that, I'd have used a mashie niblick ... 

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/Wagg%20Road%20Open%202006/?action
=viewcurrent=chainsaw-woods.jpg

  
 This is me, Frank can verify, and this was the shot that won us the
Tourny. 
 Landed this one inches from the cup.

 And yes, thats a beer in the back pocket. You don't think we do this
sober do ya.




Re: PAW - Shy

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice. The shadow and resonse of the subject make it interesting. Did said 
 subject complain?

No, I was actually quite surprised;  he didn't say a thing.  I was
sitting by the payphone just waiting for people to pass by, so I could
get a few with people and the phone.  Most either didn't notice me, or
ignored me.  He's the only one who reacted, but didn't say a thing,
just walked on by.

This phone is across from the The Queen Street Mental Health Centre,
formerly called the  Toronto Asylum for the Insane (back in the bad
old days).  It's quite a large facility, and many of the outpatients
live in local rooming houses;  it makes for a rather colourful local
population.  Of course, I don't know for sure that this fellow has any
connection with that facility, but my guess is, he did.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: SMC K 30mm/2.8 vs. FA 35/2.0 lens

2006-02-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I own SMC K 30mm/2.8 lens and use it for slides. But consider dslr  
so 45m

angle would be very nice indeed. But...what about FA35/2.0 as standard
lens?What about optical performance between two?Which one is  
sharper and
has better bokeh?What about color rendition?Has anyone had both and  
could

tell which is better?IS 30mm better than FA 28mm and SMC K28/3.5?


Alex,

You've asked this question on DPReview and to me personally before.  
Following up with my answer to you... might as well wrap them together.


The K30/2.8 is a good lens. Later lenses in the focal length range  
are often better performers due to improvements in the optical  
formulae and antireflection coatings. The current FA28/2.8 AL and  
FA35/2 AL are superb. Better or worse? Well, the specific K30/2.8 I  
tried out was not a substantially better performer than the A28/2.8  
that I owned at the time. The current FA28 and FA35 are much better  
performers.


And in response to your second query to me in email:


... taking into account that the price of A24mm is not very high
and that  it seems to be very good lens, you prefer it over 28/35
A lenses ...


Prefer is a different thing. I found the A24 to have better contrast  
and sharpness wide open compared to the A28/2.8 and A35/2.8. The  
field of view on the *ist DS body is wider, which sometimes I want/ 
need and other times not.


BTW, all of the Pentax primes in this focal length range to date will  
cover a 24x36mm film format, even the DA40/2.8. That said, I don't  
expect a 24x36mm sensor body from Pentax any time soon, nor do I  
consider planning lens purchases around such a possibility to be of  
very high importance. I only own digital Pentax SLR cameras.



What I am wooriued about it is the fact you wrote 30mm is not as
good as new FA35mm one. I bought my 30mm for about 130$ so the
price was very good I think in mint condition with oryginal case!


If you already own the K30, and like it, what are you worrying about?  
There's always something better in the world, with very rare  
exceptions. The one I looked at was very reasonably priced but not  
interesting because a) it was no better than what I already had, b)  
didn't provide much different in way of field of view, and c)  
because, for me, the lack of lens mount features limits the  
functionality of the *ist DS.



I have read different comments on Stan Halpin's site and  was
regarded as fantastic lens. But there was no direct comparison
with 35mm lens. Especially Yoshihiko liked it very much


Since the comments on Stan's site are comments by people on this  
mailing list, I would expect the response from here to be virtually  
identical to what you've already read.



BTW did you ever have a chance co compare your Pentax primes with
any Canon/Nikon counterparts?I just wonder if FA35/50mm etc are
of similar quality like above or not.


I owned and used primarily Nikon film camera equipment for over 30  
years, and I have at present a Canon DSLR and four lens kit as well  
as my Pentax gear. The Pentax FA35 and FA50 are excellent, and on par  
or better performers compared to the Canon 50/1.4 and 28/1.8, Nikon  
50/1.4 and 35/2 with regard to resolution and contrast. Each of the  
different lenses has different rendering qualities, and that's where  
I have found the Pentax lenses to be more pleasing. I've also owned  
Leica rangefinder gear for most of the past four decades, and  
consider the Pentax lens line to have what are in many ways very  
similar qualities.


best,
Godfrey



Re: PESO - My Lonely Ass (On the Way to Work)

2006-02-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Feb 22, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Tom C wrote:


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4147790


Hadn't had time to look at this before ... nice! I particularly like  
the very simple composition.


Godfrey



Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-22 Thread Scott Loveless
http://www.pmai.org/xpma2006/exhibitors/pdf/floor_plan.pdf

Pentax/Samsun, second booth on the left from the entrance.  Not quite
as big as Canon's or Fuji's, but still sizeable compared to most.

On 2/21/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=83611forum_id=80
 This year's Pentax + Samsung booth on PMA fair is about as big as Canon's
 one so who knows? ;-)

 --
 Balance is the ultimate good...

 Best Regards
 Sylwek




--
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http://www.twosixteen.com

--
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman



Re: PAW: People Portraits 2005 - #50 - GDG

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/14/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just two more after this and the 2005 set will be complete... :-)

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/50.htm

 All comments and critique appreciated.

I like this one!  Is she merely soaking up some warm winter sun, is
she contemplating life, is she having a lousy day and is taking a
moment to compose herself?  Perhaps it's some combination of the
foregoing, or something I haven't mentioned.

I love photos like this that make me wonder and think.  Of course,
it's well composed and generally beautifully executed.

thanks,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: It's fixed - Re: How to remove ME winding lever?

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Jon Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Only problem I see now is the winding lever and cap
are rather badly gashed up. I got impatient and used a
bit of an industrial strength tool on the cap that put
a deep gash in it as well as some scratches on the
lever. I'd like to find replacements for these, if
anyone has somewhat minty ones lying around. 

I think I do. I'll get back to ya...
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread jtainter
Here's one of my efforts:

http://pug.komkon.org/04aug/jllyfsh1.html

I've never tried this, but I understand the best results are obtained by (1) 
lens against the glass and (2) flash against the glass.

Joe




Re: a dog or two

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/13/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 

 You'd like the 77 more...
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/thats_not_a_dog.html


Is that the full-sized dachshund, then?

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: SMC K 30mm/2.8 vs. FA 35/2.0 lens

2006-02-22 Thread akozak
Hi Godfrey,
Thank you and sorry for the same questions.
Yes I like angle of 24mm lens and plan to buy A24 to have for PZ1 and dslr
when I buy it. So thank you for commnents on the lens!
I own 30mm lens very happy but just wondered if FA is better. So either
new FA 35mm is really better or you have maybe faulty version of 30mm,
since you prefer FA 28 and 35mm and I have read that 30mm is better than
any 28mm from Pentax and sometimes it is truth that used lens can be
faulty a little bit. But maybe FA is really better. I must consider what
to keep/sell.Manual focising is very nice for me and build quality is also
better with K than FA lenses, no wonder by the way. Some say that K lenses
are also great and often better than FA ones but it probably depends on
sample wariations and testers. for instance I have results from Modern
Photography in whicj K 50/1/4 got better results than A one in sharpness,
not much but bettre and A, F, FA seems to be the same optically so it is
strange. I believe that sample variations are a problem to test lesnes
(like everything), just look at photodo where F is better than FA, why and
FA 43 got really poor results, 28mm is not very good, worse than AIS from
Nikon.
Once again thank you for commenst and answers, pictures are more
important!Pity I do not have my website, no free time to do this, PhD is
calling...so plenty of research ahead of me.
What surprice me it is the fact that on DS you could see the difference
between FA 35mm and 30mm , since sensor is said to be about 50 - 60 lines
per mm and resolution of above lenses is for sure higher. so probably sth
wrong with your 30mm, I have a problem with M28mm, a little bit soft,maybe
faulty a few years ago.
Greetings,
Alek
PS You have very nice BW picture on website, I shoot mostly landscapes
and close ups but nearly slided only and sometimes 300D Canon with kit and
macro 100mm USM but I do not like a build of kit wrrr...:)
 On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I own SMC K 30mm/2.8 lens and use it for slides. But consider dslr
 so 45m
 angle would be very nice indeed. But...what about FA35/2.0 as standard
 lens?What about optical performance between two?Which one is
 sharper and
 has better bokeh?What about color rendition?Has anyone had both and
 could
 tell which is better?IS 30mm better than FA 28mm and SMC K28/3.5?

 Alex,

 You've asked this question on DPReview and to me personally before.
 Following up with my answer to you... might as well wrap them together.

 The K30/2.8 is a good lens. Later lenses in the focal length range
 are often better performers due to improvements in the optical
 formulae and antireflection coatings. The current FA28/2.8 AL and
 FA35/2 AL are superb. Better or worse? Well, the specific K30/2.8 I
 tried out was not a substantially better performer than the A28/2.8
 that I owned at the time. The current FA28 and FA35 are much better
 performers.

 And in response to your second query to me in email:

 ... taking into account that the price of A24mm is not very high
 and that  it seems to be very good lens, you prefer it over 28/35
 A lenses ...

 Prefer is a different thing. I found the A24 to have better contrast
 and sharpness wide open compared to the A28/2.8 and A35/2.8. The
 field of view on the *ist DS body is wider, which sometimes I want/
 need and other times not.

 BTW, all of the Pentax primes in this focal length range to date will
 cover a 24x36mm film format, even the DA40/2.8. That said, I don't
 expect a 24x36mm sensor body from Pentax any time soon, nor do I
 consider planning lens purchases around such a possibility to be of
 very high importance. I only own digital Pentax SLR cameras.

 What I am wooriued about it is the fact you wrote 30mm is not as
 good as new FA35mm one. I bought my 30mm for about 130$ so the
 price was very good I think in mint condition with oryginal case!

 If you already own the K30, and like it, what are you worrying about?
 There's always something better in the world, with very rare
 exceptions. The one I looked at was very reasonably priced but not
 interesting because a) it was no better than what I already had, b)
 didn't provide much different in way of field of view, and c)
 because, for me, the lack of lens mount features limits the
 functionality of the *ist DS.

 I have read different comments on Stan Halpin's site and  was
 regarded as fantastic lens. But there was no direct comparison
 with 35mm lens. Especially Yoshihiko liked it very much

 Since the comments on Stan's site are comments by people on this
 mailing list, I would expect the response from here to be virtually
 identical to what you've already read.

 BTW did you ever have a chance co compare your Pentax primes with
 any Canon/Nikon counterparts?I just wonder if FA35/50mm etc are
 of similar quality like above or not.

 I owned and used primarily Nikon film camera equipment for over 30
 years, and I have at present a Canon DSLR and four lens kit as well
 as 

RE: It's fixed - Re: How to remove ME winding lever?

2006-02-22 Thread Don Sanderson
I don't have any levers or caps but the piece of metal
you found is the spring that holds the wind lever in
the home (as vs stand off) position.
Works fine without it, just a bit annoying when the
lever wanders out of position, I'm a left eyed shooter
and the lever pokes me in the right eye when it's out
a bit. ;-(

Don


 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:01 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: It's fixed - Re: How to remove ME winding lever? 
 
 
 Finally got it apart. Found a stray scrap of metal of
 some sort - no idea what it broke off of. It's in the
 shape of a thin tab with a bump like a contact of some
 sort in the end. It had gotten in the works in the
 bottom of the body, jamming the mechanism. Removed it
 and the camera functions normally again, or so it
 seems. 
 
 Only problem I see now is the winding lever and cap
 are rather badly gashed up. I got impatient and used a
 bit of an industrial strength tool on the cap that put
 a deep gash in it as well as some scratches on the
 lever. I'd like to find replacements for these, if
 anyone has somewhat minty ones lying around. 
 
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Re: SMC K 30mm/2.8 vs. FA 35/2.0 lens

2006-02-22 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

I've got the A35/2, not the FA, as well as the K30/2.8.
So a comparison here is not specifically to your question, but may be 
useful to some.

On film the K30/2.8 is significantly better than the A35/2.
On digital the results are similar.  It seems that the white balance 
abilities of the computer/camera

helps the A35/2's color cast.
The FA series has a bit more amber to the cast and would presumably 
produce fine images with both film or digital.


Personally, one should not worry so much about the best lenses, 
lest one become a gearhead

and more concerned about the lens than the composition.

Collin



He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose
-- Jim Elliott



Opinions wanted: CaymanCamera shop

2006-02-22 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

What can you tell me about www.CaymanCamera.net? Are they reputable 
enough to justify a rather expensive deal with them?


Thanks.

Boris



Re: *IST-D / DS High speed action!

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2/21/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 and polish your skin...

 Now that's just *weird*.

You ~do~ know to whom I was referring, don't you?  The man with the
shiniest skin in history:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm

Eeek!
I'm gonna be emotionally scarred for life!

Well... even *more* emotionally scarred.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Peso Tiger Woods meet Chainsaw in the woods

2006-02-22 Thread brooksdj
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:20:09 
US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey troops.
 
  First Raw proccessing from the Snow Golf.
 
 
http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/Wagg%20Road%20Open%202006/?action=viewcurrent=chainsaw-woods.jpg

 
 
  This is me, Frank can verify, and this was the shot that won us the Tourny. 
  Landed
this
  one inches
  from the cup.
 
  And yes, thats a beer in the back pocket. You don't think we do this sober 
  do ya.
 
  LOL
 
 
 Yes, I can attest, that's Dave alright!  LOL
 
 I'd like to see Tiger with that bulky cold-weather gear on, in the
 snow, trying to get out of those trees.  g

Not a chance.:-)
 
 Fun shot, Dave.  Who took it?

The host of the event. I hyper focused for him and set the exposure. Its 
actuall fairly
sharp.:-)

Dave
 
 -frank
 
 
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 






Re: Poll: Best Photo Ever

2006-02-22 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been looking at all these wonderful photos that people
have been
 posting over the last week or so, and I have to say that I'm
most
 impressed with all of them.  I understand that favourite and
best
 are completely different, and I also understand that these
things
 change over time:  photos float onto or off lists, often more
than
 once.
 
 I was surprised at some shots that ~weren't~ included - one
that comes
 to mind was taken by Gianfranco of a couple on a Vespa in a
rainstorm,
 one that he took with one hand, out the window of a passing
car.

You forgot to mention that I was driving, too... :-) (hey,
that's true!)

Thanks for mantioning that one, Frank, it is a fond memory.
You know what? I thought about showing that one, in fact it -
more than the others - probably sums up all the things I try to
put in a picture (the moment, a bit of humour, and so on) but
probably it is not what I define my best nor it is my absolute
favourite... (now I was starting a huge post about how I would
interpret best but stopped in time :-)
To be fair, I hate that shot a bit because it's a real PITA to
print it properly...

For those interested, the shot is here:
http://pug.komkon.org/01sep/Sumstorm.html

Ciao,

Gianfranco
(in a vain mood today)

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RE: Peso Tiger Woods meet Chainsaw in the woods

2006-02-22 Thread brooksdj
It was in the shop getting a new nib.

Had to use the 5 iron.:-)

Dave

 With a lie like that, I'd have used a mashie 
niblick ... 
 
 Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
   
 
 http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/Wagg%20Road%20Open%202006/?action
 =viewcurrent=chainsaw-woods.jpg
 
   
  This is me, Frank can verify, and this was the shot that won us the
 Tourny. 
  Landed this one inches from the cup.
 
  And yes, thats a beer in the back pocket. You don't think we do this
 sober do ya.
 
 






Re: PAW - En Masse

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/14/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4107177size=lg

 Frank, I deliberately did not read the rest of the comments. Knowing
 that I am late I could do that, but I chose not to.

 I think it is fine photo, but the leftmost part of the frame is rather
 distracting. Given the ratio of 3:2, I think you could crop it to, say
 4:3, without loosing much of hmmm, how to put it, being orthodox :-).

 Julia disagrees. She's saying that it shows the motion and the context...


Thanks for your comments, Boris.  You may have been late commenting,
but I was even later getting back to you (I'm just now catching up
after having fallen behind over the past week or so).

As far as the distractions on the left, well, first of all, I don't
crop unless absolutely necessary, and in this case, I didn't think it
was necessary.  You wouldn't necessarily know it, but this was taken
mid-December, and people were on their way home from Christmas
shopping, carrying bundles and bags of gifts.  The subway was crowded
and bustling.  So, the bag with the tube of gift wrap on the lower
left, along with the blurry coat on the upper left are part of what I
was trying to capture in the scene - the hustle and bustle of holiday
shoppers heading home, and, of course, this poor young mom, trying to
deal with her brood.  g

I don't know that those elements necessarily make it a better photo,
but they make it a more complete and accurate photo, for me.

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW - En Masse

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/22/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

 Thanks for your comments, Boris.  You may have been late commenting,
 but I was even later getting back to you (I'm just now catching up
 after having fallen behind over the past week or so).

 As far as the distractions on the left, well, first of all, I don't
 crop unless absolutely necessary, and in this case, I didn't think it
 was necessary.  You wouldn't necessarily know it, but this was taken
 mid-December, and people were on their way home from Christmas
 shopping, carrying bundles and bags of gifts.  The subway was crowded
 and bustling.  So, the bag with the tube of gift wrap on the lower
 left, along with the blurry coat on the upper left are part of what I
 was trying to capture in the scene - the hustle and bustle of holiday
 shoppers heading home, and, of course, this poor young mom, trying to
 deal with her brood.  g

 I don't know that those elements necessarily make it a better photo,
 but they make it a more complete and accurate photo, for me.


Oh, BTW, Boris, I wan't trying to criticize your comment, nor was I
trying to say that you're wrong to think what you may think, I was
just giving my side of the story, and explaining why I did things the
way I did.  I may very well be wrong (probably am g).

cheers again,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



RE: PAW - Shy

2006-02-22 Thread Bob W
I think the person is shielding their eyes from the sun, not hiding from the
camera.

--
Cheers,
 Bob

We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever
believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
-- Richard Dawkins 

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 February 2006 17:59
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PAW - Shy
 
 On 2/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Nice. The shadow and resonse of the subject make it 
 interesting. Did said subject complain?
 
 No, I was actually quite surprised;  he didn't say a thing.  
 I was sitting by the payphone just waiting for people to pass 
 by, so I could get a few with people and the phone.  Most 
 either didn't notice me, or ignored me.  He's the only one 
 who reacted, but didn't say a thing, just walked on by.
 
 This phone is across from the The Queen Street Mental Health 
 Centre, formerly called the  Toronto Asylum for the Insane 
 (back in the bad old days).  It's quite a large facility, and 
 many of the outpatients live in local rooming houses;  it 
 makes for a rather colourful local population.  Of course, I 
 don't know for sure that this fellow has any connection with 
 that facility, but my guess is, he did.



Re: PAW - Shy

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/22/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think the person is shielding their eyes from the sun, not hiding from the
 camera.

You know, you could be right.  I thought the fellow looked my way, saw
me, then covered his face, but maybe I imagined it, and he was just
shading his face from the bright sun.  I do know that the trigger
for me snapping was his hand over face, but that obviously doesn't
rule out the shading theory...snip

 We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever
 believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
 -- Richard Dawkins

Is that the same Richard Dawkins who used to be on Hogans Heroes, and
then hosted the American game show Family Feud?  Or am I thinking of
Richard Dawson?  Hmmm...


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW - Shy

2006-02-22 Thread Gonz



frank theriault wrote:

On 2/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Nice. The shadow and resonse of the subject make it interesting. Did said 
subject complain?



No, I was actually quite surprised;  he didn't say a thing.  I was
sitting by the payphone just waiting for people to pass by, so I could
get a few with people and the phone.  Most either didn't notice me, or
ignored me.  He's the only one who reacted, but didn't say a thing,
just walked on by.

This phone is across from the The Queen Street Mental Health Centre,
formerly called the  Toronto Asylum for the Insane (back in the bad
old days).  It's quite a large facility, and many of the outpatients
live in local rooming houses;  it makes for a rather colourful local
population.  Of course, I don't know for sure that this fellow has any
connection with that facility, but my guess is, he did.



Or maybe he didnt, but thought you did.  ;)


cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



--
Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I 
was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's 
a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man?

- Mitch Hedberg



Re: PAW - Shy

2006-02-22 Thread Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]


We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have 
ever

believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
-- Richard Dawkins


Is that the same Richard Dawkins who used to be on Hogans Heroes, 
and

then hosted the American game show Family Feud?  Or am I thinking of
Richard Dawson?  Hmmm...



Richard Dawkins is a biologist and a renowned scientific writer. He 
stirred up the scientific community in 1976 with a book called the 
selfish gene, where he argued that the gene was the basic unit of 
natural selection, not the individual. He regarded individuals as mere 
vehicles for the genes.


He later modified his views in the book the blind watchmaker.

I have no idea where that quote comes from, though...:-)

Jostein



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
There's a sameness to all the jellie-pix I've seen, no matter how nice they
may be.  I really want something different.

Flash?  What's that?

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: jtainter 

 Here's one of my efforts:

 http://pug.komkon.org/04aug/jllyfsh1.html

 I've never tried this, but I understand the best results are 
 obtained by (1) lens against the glass and (2) flash against 
 the glass.




GESOs: Soft

2006-02-22 Thread Derby Chang


I'm on a bit of a soft focus kick at the moment. Don't worry, I'll get 
over it soon.


Real SF - this is one fun lens.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index7/06_02_soft/index.htm

Photoshop SF
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index7/06_02_slowhand/index.htm

comments welcome as always

D

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Re: PAW - Shy

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have 
 ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
 -- Richard Dawkins

 Is that the same Richard Dawkins who used to be on Hogans Heroes, 
 and then hosted the American game show Family Feud?  Or am I 
 thinking of Richard Dawson?  Hmmm...

Richard Dawkins is a biologist and a renowned scientific writer. He 
stirred up the scientific community in 1976 with a book called the 
selfish gene, where he argued that the gene was the basic unit of 
natural selection, not the individual. He regarded individuals as mere 
vehicles for the genes.

He later modified his views in the book the blind watchmaker.

Both those books are wonderful examples of scientific writing for
normal people done well! But his latest, The Ancestor's Tale is even
better, in terms of readability. It's a book to keep and read over and
over it's so enjoyable.
  
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: GESOs: Soft

2006-02-22 Thread Jens Bladt
Awesome photographs, Derby! All of them. Especially the ones with the band.
Well done.
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 22. februar 2006 22:12
Til: Pentax Discuss
Emne: GESOs: Soft



I'm on a bit of a soft focus kick at the moment. Don't worry, I'll get 
over it soon.

Real SF - this is one fun lens.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index7/06_02_soft/index.htm

Photoshop SF
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index7/06_02_slowhand/index.htm

comments welcome as always

D

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Re: PESO - February Sunrise

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/10/06, George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I picked up the DA 40mm a few days ago.  Here's a sunrise I captured
 on the way to work yesterday.

 http://georgesphotos.net/gallery/781336/1/55859051/Large


Wow!  Now ~that's~ a dramatic sunset.  I like the wires in there; 
they actually do a good job framing the sun (or what's left of it).

Quite lovely.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Gonz
I have, the light is very low, so you have to use high iso or the 
movement will show up as blur. Of course it goes without saying that a 
tripod is mandatory.


Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay
Aquarium for some R n R.  Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been on
my to do list for a while.  Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any
suggestions?

I found these pics, but boy, are they poor quality 

http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html


Shel





--
Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I 
was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's 
a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man?

- Mitch Hedberg



DS White Balance

2006-02-22 Thread dick graham
I'm getting familiar with my newly arrived DS and tried out the white 
balance settings.  The problem is that no matter what setting I put the 
white balance on the result, review on LCD screen, all appear to have the 
same color cast.  I compared these results with my Canon A-70 compact 
digital and the results were much different.  When I set tungsten on the 
Canon the results are cooler, when I set cloudy they are much warmer, just 
as they are supposed to be.  What gives with the DS?  Now I admit I don't 
have my SD card yet, but that shouldn't make any difference.  Any help will 
be appreciated.


DG



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/22/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There's a sameness to all the jellie-pix I've seen, no matter how nice they
 may be.  I really want something different.
snip

Shel, I'm offended.  That's a very specieist comment.

The pix to which you refer don't look the same to other jellyfish, I
assure you - and don't give me that jellyfish don't have eyes and
can't see, bull.  That would be just another small-minded comment
from a narrow-minded individual, AFAIC.

cheers,
frank, friend of the invertebrates

vbg


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Opinions wanted: CaymanCamera shop

2006-02-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/2/06, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi!

What can you tell me about www.CaymanCamera.net? Are they reputable 
enough to justify a rather expensive deal with them?

Thanks.

Boris

I smell a 31 Ltd !!!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Weekend crop: A gallery of jazz photos

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/13/06, Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 Friday night I shot a concert by young Danish jazz band Jazz Kamikaze who
 played the Mariehamn Jazz, Roots  Blues Festival 2006.

 They were really, I mean really, good. (Maybe Jens B. knows about them?)

 Anyway I uploaded a selection of pictures at the following url:

 http://assearlssonhotography.fotopic.net/c860256.html
snip

Just looked through these, Lasse (I'm behind on some posts, and just
now catching up).

I really like them.  Nice use of creative blur!  g

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: SV: *IST-D / DS High speed action!

2006-02-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/2/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed:


Most professional sports photographers have the following set of equipment:

3 top-of-the-line digital camera bodies, such as the Canon 1D or Nikon D2H
($3,000 each)
6 Extra batteries ($100 each)
Extreme wide angle 14mm f/2.8 ($1,400)
Wide angle zoom lens 17 - 35mm f/2.8 ($1,400)
Fast short telephoto 85mm f/1.4 ($900)
Telephoto zoom 70-200 f/2.8 ($1,500)
Fast Telephoto 300mm f/2.8 ($4,400)
Fast Long Telephoto 400mm f/2.8 ($7,700)
Teleconverter 1.4x ($450)
Teleconverter 2x ($450)
2 Monopods ($150 each)
Tripod ($450)
2 Flashes ($400 each)
Radio Remotes ($300)
Light stands, umbrellas, misc lighting equipment ($500)
Laptop with extra ram ($2,500)
Photoshop ($600)
Other software ($500)
Rolling camera case ($300)
Rain gear ($500)

Total: $34,000

Don't forget:

Insurance for above ($2500 yearly)
New car every 3 years ($28,000)
Interest on overdraft facility (£500)
Hospitality to kennel maids etc ($10,000)
Assistant ($22,000 yearly)
Drinking habit ($12,000)
Alimony ($68,000 yearly)

I'd stay amateur ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 February 2006 21:09
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Photographing the Jellies
 
 There's a sameness to all the jellie-pix I've seen, no matter 
 how nice they may be.  I really want something different.
 

it's an exhibition, isn't it? Nail them to the wall!

I thought many of the pictures shown were quite nice, but as you say, a bit
samey. But isn't that in the nature of jellyfish? I mean, what else are they
going to do all day but float around? It's not like they do anything
interesting, such as live in pineapples.

Cheers,

SpongeBob



Re: GESOs: Soft

2006-02-22 Thread Holly Hegeman
On 2/22/06 3:12 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm on a bit of a soft focus kick at the moment. Don't worry, I'll get
 over it soon.
 
 Real SF - this is one fun lens.
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index7/06_02_soft/index.htm
 
 Photoshop SF
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index7/06_02_slowhand/index.htm
 
 comments welcome as always
 
 D

Derby, these are cool. I like both sets.

-Holly



Re: GESOs: Soft

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/22/06, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm on a bit of a soft focus kick at the moment. Don't worry, I'll get
 over it soon.

 Real SF - this is one fun lens.
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index7/06_02_soft/index.htm

 Photoshop SF
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index7/06_02_slowhand/index.htm

 comments welcome as always

I know this is ironic coming from me, but...

I'm not a huge fan of soft focus lenses (okay, all lenses are soft
focus in my hands, you're thinking).  I don't dislike all soft focus
shots, but I find your nature shots don't work for me - I can't say
why, other than to say I don't like them.  That's not a reflection of
your photography, it's simply a personal bias.

The band shots do work, however.  There's a nice ethereal feel to them
that I like.  I think they're just good photos, and would have worked
very well if they were sharp, but with the soft focus there's an added
something that gives them more personality...

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/22/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

 it's an exhibition, isn't it? Nail them to the wall!

 I thought many of the pictures shown were quite nice, but as you say, a bit
 samey. But isn't that in the nature of jellyfish? I mean, what else are they
 going to do all day but float around? It's not like they do anything
 interesting, such as live in pineapples.

 Cheers,

 SpongeBob

So, another anti-medusite, eh?

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Feb 2006 at 10:23, Christian wrote:

 The best way to photograph jellies is under controlled studio lighting 
 in small aquariums that limit the animal's movement.  Obviously not 
 possible in a public place.  I think Bruce made the best of the 
 situation:  High ISO and wide open.  Use as wide an angle lens as you 
 can and get up right on the glass to avoid reflections.

Big rubber hoods are good for excluding reflections off tanks.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: SV: *IST-D / DS High speed action!

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 22/2/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed:

Most professional sports photographers have the following set of equipment:

3 top-of-the-line digital camera bodies, such as the Canon 1D or Nikon D2H
($3,000 each)
6 Extra batteries ($100 each)
Extreme wide angle 14mm f/2.8 ($1,400)
Wide angle zoom lens 17 - 35mm f/2.8 ($1,400)
Fast short telephoto 85mm f/1.4 ($900)
Telephoto zoom 70-200 f/2.8 ($1,500)
Fast Telephoto 300mm f/2.8 ($4,400)
Fast Long Telephoto 400mm f/2.8 ($7,700)
Teleconverter 1.4x ($450)
Teleconverter 2x ($450)
2 Monopods ($150 each)
Tripod ($450)
2 Flashes ($400 each)
Radio Remotes ($300)
Light stands, umbrellas, misc lighting equipment ($500)
Laptop with extra ram ($2,500)
Photoshop ($600)
Other software ($500)
Rolling camera case ($300)
Rain gear ($500)

Total: $34,000

Don't forget:

Insurance for above ($2500 yearly)
New car every 3 years ($28,000)
Interest on overdraft facility (£500)
Hospitality to kennel maids etc ($10,000)
Assistant ($22,000 yearly)
Drinking habit ($12,000)
Alimony ($68,000 yearly)

And:
Personal masseuse ($25,000 yearly)
Emergency gear rental when airline loses it $10,000
Licensing photos from Ken Rockwell when yours turn out like crap $50,000
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: DS White Balance

2006-02-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
New DS models likely still have firmware revision 1.0 installed out  
of the box.


If you are using Auto Picture or any of the program presets (scene  
modes), the white balance setting is defined by the preset. In  
firmware revisions 1.x (all of them), the camera would allow you to  
select a white balance setting and then ignore it... it always uses  
AWB in these modes. That's poor user feedback as to what options are  
actually available.


In firmware revision 2.0, you are no longer able to make white  
balance selections in the Auto Picture or program preset modes. This  
and other non-relevant settings choices are disabled correctly.


White Balance choices are always available in P, Tv, Av, M and B  
modes, regardless of firmware revision.


Download and install firmware rev 2.0 from the Pentax website. It's  
well worth it.


Godfrey




On Feb 22, 2006, at 1:56 PM, dick graham wrote:

I'm getting familiar with my newly arrived DS and tried out the  
white balance settings.  The problem is that no matter what setting  
I put the white balance on the result, review on LCD screen, all  
appear to have the same color cast.  I compared these results with  
my Canon A-70 compact digital and the results were much different.   
When I set tungsten on the Canon the results are cooler, when I set  
cloudy they are much warmer, just as they are supposed to be.  What  
gives with the DS?  Now I admit I don't have my SD card yet, but  
that shouldn't make any difference.  Any help will be appreciated.


DG





Re: SV: *IST-D / DS High speed action!

2006-02-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/2/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Licensing photos from Ken Rockwell when yours turn out like crap $50,000

LOL. Cheap at twice the price!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Christian

Rob Studdert wrote:



Big rubber hoods 


Did we change the subject?  ooh I hope so! :-)


--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:



So, another anti-medusite, eh?

-frank


That depends frank...  Stinging or stingless?  Rightside up or upside 
down?  Where do you stand on the issues? eh?  These Cnidarians are a 
divisive bunch.


--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net



Re: SV: *IST-D / DS High speed action!

2006-02-22 Thread Christian

Mark Roberts wrote:

Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 22/2/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed:


Most professional sports photographers have the following set of equipment:

3 top-of-the-line digital camera bodies, such as the Canon 1D or Nikon D2H
($3,000 each)
6 Extra batteries ($100 each)
Extreme wide angle 14mm f/2.8 ($1,400)
Wide angle zoom lens 17 - 35mm f/2.8 ($1,400)
Fast short telephoto 85mm f/1.4 ($900)
Telephoto zoom 70-200 f/2.8 ($1,500)
Fast Telephoto 300mm f/2.8 ($4,400)
Fast Long Telephoto 400mm f/2.8 ($7,700)
Teleconverter 1.4x ($450)
Teleconverter 2x ($450)
2 Monopods ($150 each)
Tripod ($450)
2 Flashes ($400 each)
Radio Remotes ($300)
Light stands, umbrellas, misc lighting equipment ($500)
Laptop with extra ram ($2,500)
Photoshop ($600)
Other software ($500)
Rolling camera case ($300)
Rain gear ($500)

Total: $34,000


Don't forget:

Insurance for above ($2500 yearly)
New car every 3 years ($28,000)
Interest on overdraft facility (£500)
Hospitality to kennel maids etc ($10,000)
Assistant ($22,000 yearly)
Drinking habit ($12,000)
Alimony ($68,000 yearly)



And:
Personal masseuse ($25,000 yearly)
Emergency gear rental when airline loses it $10,000
Licensing photos from Ken Rockwell when yours turn out like crap $50,000
 
 


And:
Sherpa named Cesar (six pack of beer daily)

--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net



re: GESOs: Soft

2006-02-22 Thread herb greenslade
Hi 

I just want to know where you find a club that you can shoot ISO 200 and still 
have 1/125 second wide open My last club shoot, I 
rated my film between 6400 and 12800 and still could only shoot at about 1/15 
at f2.8. 

Maybe the conditions here in this province are much worse than the media thinks 
:-)

BTW, do like your fotos, but a 1/15th the softness comes naturally :-)

herb





Re: PESO - Angry Sea

2006-02-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Many thanks to those who have commented on this shot.  I have taken a
stab at BW conversion:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2788bw.htm

Original:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2788.htm


-- 
Bruce


Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 7:33:12 PM, you wrote:

JT http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2788.htm

JT My dial-up connection and I are pretty busy these days, but it 
JT is always worthwhile taking the time to look at a Bruce Dayton 
JT photo.

JT Nice.

JT Joe




Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

I guess I should have mentioned that I've seen the exhibit several times,
so I know about the light.  A tripod isn't mandatory, although, for some
shots, it could be useful.  Blur might be nice, BTW ...

On a separate note, your Mitch Hedberg sig got me to rent one of his DVD's.
Thanks!

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Gonz 

 I have, the light is very low, so you have to use high iso or the 
 movement will show up as blur. Of course it goes without 
 saying that a tripod is mandatory.

 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay
 Aquarium for some R n R.  Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been on
 my to do list for a while.  Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any
 suggestions?
 
 I found these pics, but boy, are they poor quality 
 
 http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html




Re: PESO - Waiting....

2006-02-22 Thread Christian

Bruce Dayton wrote:

This was taken the same day as the Angry Sea shot, but we had moved to
a different beach.

Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5
Converted from Raw using Capture One LE

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2878.htm

Comments welcome



Nice one, Bruce.  I like the way the birds are in an s-shape, kinda 
mirroring the curves in the water.  Great light too.


--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net



RE: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Perhaps some creative or innovate techniques might enhance the photographic
viewing experience.

They don't just float around.  Some are quite capable of initiating and
maintaining movement on their own.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Bob W 

 I thought many of the pictures shown were quite nice, but as 
 you say, a bit samey. But isn't that in the nature of jellyfish? 
 I mean, what else are they going to do all day but float around? 
 It's not like they do anything interesting, such as live in pineapples.




Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Shel,

One thought I had was to take a multi exposure or perhaps just cover
the lens while on bulb - first shot, then some movement, then another
image and so on.  Sort of showing a directional move, rather than just
a blurred move.

-- 
Bruce


Wednesday, February 22, 2006, 4:09:33 PM, you wrote:

SB Perhaps some creative or innovate techniques might enhance the photographic
SB viewing experience.

SB They don't just float around.  Some are quite capable of initiating and
SB maintaining movement on their own.

SB Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Bob W 

 I thought many of the pictures shown were quite nice, but as 
 you say, a bit samey. But isn't that in the nature of jellyfish? 
 I mean, what else are they going to do all day but float around? 
 It's not like they do anything interesting, such as live in pineapples.





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