Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
I copy my .pef files onto my hard drive. When I work with an image I will save as a PSD. When I am finished, I will resave as either as a tif or jpeg, depending on how it will be used. The only confusing thing to me is that the raw tool in pse3 saves the changes although as far as I can tell, I can get back to original. It is not clear to me whether the tool settings are saved or the changed image, but I think the first. For archive purposes, I write the pef files onto cd's. John Graves WA1JG [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/7/2007 11:39:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: going save as one better is to never work on an original. creating a copy in a working directory away from the directory where you store originals ... and remembering to identify the original as connected to the processed image. yep I have messed up more than once. Bran Agreed. Took Photoshop class during summer. He said SAVE FIRST (as a PSD, a copy) THEN work on it. That way you don't mess up. Me, the way I goof is when I resize PSD to turn it into a JPEGs for the web, and sometimes save that over the original. The smaller size and resolution isn't good enough for future reworking. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
All the PS converters save the tool settings, not a revised pef or dng. I sometimes move a file from one computer to another. The converter adjustments don't go with it. Paul -- Original message -- From: John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] I copy my .pef files onto my hard drive. When I work with an image I will save as a PSD. When I am finished, I will resave as either as a tif or jpeg, depending on how it will be used. The only confusing thing to me is that the raw tool in pse3 saves the changes although as far as I can tell, I can get back to original. It is not clear to me whether the tool settings are saved or the changed image, but I think the first. For archive purposes, I write the pef files onto cd's. John Graves WA1JG [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/7/2007 11:39:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: going save as one better is to never work on an original. creating a copy in a working directory away from the directory where you store originals ... and remembering to identify the original as connected to the processed image. yep I have messed up more than once. Bran Agreed. Took Photoshop class during summer. He said SAVE FIRST (as a PSD, a copy) THEN work on it. That way you don't mess up. Me, the way I goof is when I resize PSD to turn it into a JPEGs for the web, and sometimes save that over the original. The smaller size and resolution isn't good enough for future reworking. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
If you set Camera Raw to use a distributed settings cache, it will create a .XMP sidecar file for every RAW file you open with it. That will contain your adjustment parameters. You move both the original RAW and the .XMP file together from one system to another in order to preserve the settings you've made. Godfrey On Nov 8, 2007, at 6:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the PS converters save the tool settings, not a revised pef or dng. I sometimes move a file from one computer to another. The converter adjustments don't go with it. Paul -- Original message -- From: John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] I copy my .pef files onto my hard drive. When I work with an image I will save as a PSD. When I am finished, I will resave as either as a tif or jpeg, depending on how it will be used. The only confusing thing to me is that the raw tool in pse3 saves the changes although as far as I can tell, I can get back to original. It is not clear to me whether the tool settings are saved or the changed image, but I think the first. For archive purposes, I write the pef files onto cd's. John Graves WA1JG [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/7/2007 11:39:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: going save as one better is to never work on an original. creating a copy in a working directory away from the directory where you store originals ... and remembering to identify the original as connected to the processed image. yep I have messed up more than once. Bran Agreed. Took Photoshop class during summer. He said SAVE FIRST (as a PSD, a copy) THEN work on it. That way you don't mess up. Me, the way I goof is when I resize PSD to turn it into a JPEGs for the web, and sometimes save that over the original. The smaller size and resolution isn't good enough for future reworking. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http:// www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
John Graves wrote: I copy my .pef files onto my hard drive. When I work with an image I will save as a PSD. When I am finished, I will resave as either as a tif or jpeg, depending on how it will be used. Copy from memory cards to hard drive. Mark all of them as read only. Copy them to several more devices and media for backup purposes. Start culling and editing. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
frank theriault wrote: First the photo: http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzG94gS56dI/A8M/K408ofTTREE/s1600-h/nov_7+002.jpg The woman was playing one of those scratch and win lotto cards, and apparently won... Now the dilemma: Um, when you load the stuff from the camera onto the computer does it erase your card? I guess you aren't shooting in RAW, either eh? (eventually the joys of raw will come to you ;) ) also, save as should save your butt :) I never touch the original files out of the camera unless they are really really terrible (totally out of focus, camera shake , etc.) anything that I print or show anyone has got a descriptive file name. This doesnt mean, of course, that I don't lose stuff I've worked on . I agree the Cinnebon sign is distracting -- although it makes a nice joke too... it's to sharp and clear and large in relation to what is going on, I think. also, something about the geometry of the shot bothers me - but the facial expression of the non-winner next to the happy scatcher makes me want you to be able to recover and tweak :) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
On Nov 7, 2007, at 5:41 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 The woman was playing one of those scratch and win lotto cards, and apparently won... I like this photo but it's one that I would crop. The Cinnabon sign upper left pulls my eye away from the woman and her expression, the key subject. A little tighter and it would be great. Regards the save issue, unless you can retrieve the image from the memory card, you're done unfortunately. This is one of the reasons why, with a Photoshop workflow, I had a one-key action set up so that on opening a JPEG original it was promoted it to 16bit .PSD file. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma First the photo: http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzG94gS56dI/A8M/K408ofTTREE/s1600-h/nov_7+002.jpg The woman was playing one of those scratch and win lotto cards, and apparently won... Now the dilemma: I'm dead tired last night, doing a bit of processing in PS. I'm done, and I'm closing up the computer to get ready for bed. I'm not really done with this photo, as I'm not quite satisfied as is. I hit save, the computer asks if I want to save the changes to the photo, I say yes, close PS, shut off the computer. I realize that I no longer have the original, as it's now been replaced by the saved version. This is the version you see here. Now I'm kind of stuck with this resized version of a very grainy poorly cropped photo. I tried cropping it, but the loss of detail is more than even I could stand. So, what I want to know is: is there any way of retrieving the original photo, as it was out of the camera? Or did I completely pooch myself by hitting save, instead of save as (in which I'd have created a new file, rather than replacing the original)? Aaaach! Thanks for comments wrt the photo, and suggestions (if any) as to the dilemma. You could try one of the photo rescue programs on the card. The original file will still be there unless you have over written it already. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
frank theriault wrote: is there any way of retrieving the original photo, as it was out of the camera? Or did I completely pooch myself by hitting save, instead of save as (in which I'd have created a new file, rather than replacing the original)? You could try recovering the original file from the memory card. Try PC Inspector Smart Recovery (http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/smart_recovery/info.htm?language=1) It's a free download. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 Nice snap, but the Cinnabon does two things: makes it look like an ad for Cinnabon, and makes me REALLY hungry. Regarding the lost original: as others have said, use a file-recovery software on your card unless you've taken more photos on it since you downloaded this one. Lexar Image Rescue is what I use, but I got it free with my very first CF card years ago. This is why I always shoot PIFs. Good luck! John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
going save as one better is to never work on an original. creating a copy in a working directory away from the directory where you store originals ... and remembering to identify the original as connected to the processed image. yep I have messed up more than once. Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
In a message dated 11/7/2007 6:13:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First the photo: http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzG94gS56dI/A8M/K408ofTTREE/s1600- h/nov_7+002.jpg The woman was playing one of those scratch and win lotto cards, and apparently won... Now the dilemma: I'm dead tired last night, doing a bit of processing in PS. I'm done, and I'm closing up the computer to get ready for bed. I'm not really done with this photo, as I'm not quite satisfied as is. I hit save, the computer asks if I want to save the changes to the photo, I say yes, close PS, shut off the computer. I realize that I no longer have the original, as it's now been replaced by the saved version. This is the version you see here. Now I'm kind of stuck with this resized version of a very grainy poorly cropped photo. I tried cropping it, but the loss of detail is more than even I could stand. So, what I want to know is: is there any way of retrieving the original photo, as it was out of the camera? Or did I completely pooch myself by hitting save, instead of save as (in which I'd have created a new file, rather than replacing the original)? Aaaach! Thanks for comments wrt the photo, and suggestions (if any) as to the dilemma. cheers, frank = Nice one. Not unless you still have it on your card. Do this once and it's a live and learn experience. One has to be careful and use Save As rather than Save. Unless it was saved as a PSD rather than a RAW, which most Adobe programs will do by default (under certain situations). Go back and look. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
First the photo: http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzG94gS56dI/A8M/K408ofTTREE/s1600-h/nov_7+002.jpg The woman was playing one of those scratch and win lotto cards, and apparently won... Now the dilemma: I'm dead tired last night, doing a bit of processing in PS. I'm done, and I'm closing up the computer to get ready for bed. I'm not really done with this photo, as I'm not quite satisfied as is. I hit save, the computer asks if I want to save the changes to the photo, I say yes, close PS, shut off the computer. I realize that I no longer have the original, as it's now been replaced by the saved version. This is the version you see here. Now I'm kind of stuck with this resized version of a very grainy poorly cropped photo. I tried cropping it, but the loss of detail is more than even I could stand. So, what I want to know is: is there any way of retrieving the original photo, as it was out of the camera? Or did I completely pooch myself by hitting save, instead of save as (in which I'd have created a new file, rather than replacing the original)? Aaaach! Thanks for comments wrt the photo, and suggestions (if any) as to the dilemma. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
Frank, the link gets me a blank page. No photos are showing up on your blog page either. Rick --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First the photo: http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzG94gS56dI/A8M/K408ofTTREE/s1600-h/nov_7+002.jpg The woman was playing one of those scratch and win lotto cards, and apparently won... Now the dilemma: I'm dead tired last night, doing a bit of processing in PS. I'm done, and I'm closing up the computer to get ready for bed. I'm not really done with this photo, as I'm not quite satisfied as is. I hit save, the computer asks if I want to save the changes to the photo, I say yes, close PS, shut off the computer. I realize that I no longer have the original, as it's now been replaced by the saved version. This is the version you see here. Now I'm kind of stuck with this resized version of a very grainy poorly cropped photo. I tried cropping it, but the loss of detail is more than even I could stand. So, what I want to know is: is there any way of retrieving the original photo, as it was out of the camera? Or did I completely pooch myself by hitting save, instead of save as (in which I'd have created a new file, rather than replacing the original)? Aaaach! Thanks for comments wrt the photo, and suggestions (if any) as to the dilemma. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma
In a message dated 11/7/2007 11:39:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: going save as one better is to never work on an original. creating a copy in a working directory away from the directory where you store originals ... and remembering to identify the original as connected to the processed image. yep I have messed up more than once. Bran Agreed. Took Photoshop class during summer. He said SAVE FIRST (as a PSD, a copy) THEN work on it. That way you don't mess up. Me, the way I goof is when I resize PSD to turn it into a JPEGs for the web, and sometimes save that over the original. The smaller size and resolution isn't good enough for future reworking. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: We have a winner....
Hi William congratulations on your winner photo first. On the other side, I still dislike the use of denoiser/cleaner programs on skin, it's mostly overdone and look unnatural for my taste. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:24 AM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: OT: We have a winner A few weeks ago, I was invited to attend a competition shoot modeled on the Naked in the House projects. The rules were simple: The pictures had to be shot on BW film, the photographer had one camera, one lens, one roll of film, and half an hour to shoot a nude model using available light only. Reflectors were allowed, and the rules were relaxed so that C-41 monochrome film was allowed. Anyway, it turns out I won the contest with the following image: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/works/01500016b.html Even more interesting (to me, anyway), is that the first *and* second place pictures were printed in an Epson inkjet printer, as opposed to photographic paper. William Robb
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Hi Bill, Congratulations - I'm happy for you. I really don't care much for the photo - not that you asked - and I bring up my feelings because the skin texture looks strange to me. That's my biggest dislike. Did you do something to the skin when processing the photo? It just looks w-a-y unnatural. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb A few weeks ago, I was invited to attend a competition shoot modeled on the Naked in the House projects. The rules were simple: The pictures had to be shot on BW film, the photographer had one camera, one lens, one roll of film, and half an hour to shoot a nude model using available light only. Reflectors were allowed, and the rules were relaxed so that C-41 monochrome film was allowed. Anyway, it turns out I won the contest with the following image: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/works/01500016b.html Even more interesting (to me, anyway), is that the first *and* second place pictures were printed in an Epson inkjet printer, as opposed to photographic paper.
Re: We have a winner....
- Original Message - From: Markus Maurer Subject: RE: We have a winner Hi William congratulations on your winner photo first. On the other side, I still dislike the use of denoiser/cleaner programs on skin, it's mostly overdone and look unnatural for my taste. greetings It seems to be the new trend in digital photography. Thanks for looking, and for the congratulations. William Robb
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- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: RE: OT: We have a winner Hi Bill, Congratulations - I'm happy for you. I really don't care much for the photo - not that you asked - and I bring up my feelings because the skin texture looks strange to me. That's my biggest dislike. Did you do something to the skin when processing the photo? It just looks w-a-y unnatural. I just took the file that had been processed for the printing and downsized it for the web. The print looks fine, I'm not too concerned if the web image is as nice or not. Thanks for looking, and for being happy. This contest was like shooting fish in a barrel for me. William Robb
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William Robb wrote: Anyway, it turns out I won the contest with the following image: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/works/01500016b.html Great work! You got the lighting absolutely perfect! Even more interesting (to me, anyway), is that the first *and* second place pictures were printed in an Epson inkjet printer, as opposed to photographic paper. Sigh. It was only a matter of time until digital BW printing started to overtake wet printing. I'm moving that direction myself. I *am* going to keep my darkroom equipment and do web BW prints, but I suspect that within a couple of years, I'll be doing so just because silver gelatin prints will have extra sales value simply because of their novelty, rather than their quality. Gee, you mean that print wasn't made on a computer?!
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip I *am* going to keep my darkroom equipment and do web BW prints, but I snip Yer psychology's showing 8-) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: We have a winner....
Indeed; what the heck happened to the poor woman from the waist down? Is this, perhaps, a sanitized version [different from the competition entry] intended for web consumption? It is troubling to think that, after all the rules for film and simplicity, the judges would allow a scanned and seriously altered image. If you're going to allow scanning, photoshop, etc, why insist on film to begin with?
RE: We have a winner....
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, David Bean wrote: Indeed; what the heck happened to the poor woman from the waist down? At first glance it appeared to me she was wearing an overall; look at the derriere, where structure is lost. The tattoo (important in my opinion for the composition) is also dull. Kostas
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Congratulations, Bill. Godfrey
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Nicely done, Bill. Congratulations. And the prize for winning was? Joe
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On Mar 9, 2006, at 6:42 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Even more interesting (to me, anyway), is that the first *and* second place pictures were printed in an Epson inkjet printer, as opposed to photographic paper. Sigh. It was only a matter of time until digital BW printing started to overtake wet printing. I'm moving that direction myself. I *am* going to keep my darkroom equipment and do web BW prints, but I suspect that within a couple of years, I'll be doing so just because silver gelatin prints will have extra sales value simply because of their novelty, rather than their quality. Gee, you mean that print wasn't made on a computer?! It's only within the past couple of years that you can get ink and paper (in pricing and printers accessible for small lab/home use!) that work well consistently for BW printing. I've been doing all my printing via inkjet printers for a decade or more now, but for BW I'd always duotone to get decent results until 2001-2002. That's when I went the quadtone ink/dedicated printer route and started to see some major improvements. Now, with the R2400 and K3 inkset, you can make better BW on the inkjet printer than in the darkroom with today's available darkroom papers and chemistry. Measurements with a densitometer show conclusively that, with the right paper and ink combination, you can get deeper blacks and whiter whites than in the darkroom. Once you can do that, it's all a matter of knowing how to best process the images. Godfrey
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Congratulations Bill! Does this mean you're famous now? -Mat
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- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter Subject: Re: OT: We have a winner Nicely done, Bill. Congratulations. Thanks Joe. And the prize for winning was? I got to stand in front of them and tell them that their first and second place pictures had rolled off of an inkjet printer. That was worth the cost of admission.. William Robb
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- Original Message - From: David Bean Subject: RE: We have a winner Indeed; what the heck happened to the poor woman from the waist down? Is this, perhaps, a sanitized version [different from the competition entry] intended for web consumption? It is troubling to think that, after all the rules for film and simplicity, the judges would allow a scanned and seriously altered image. If you're going to allow scanning, photoshop, etc, why insist on film to begin with? Funny you should mention that. The picture is a crop, but what I am showing is just a downsized and sharpened version of what I submitted. I found it annoying that they wouldn't let me shoot digital, especially considering that every print except mine, the number two picture, and one that was obviously a badly done darkroom manipulation, were printed on a digital photo printer at London Drugs. William Robb
Re: We have a winner....
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: RE: We have a winner At first glance it appeared to me she was wearing an overall; look at the derriere, where structure is lost. The tattoo (important in my opinion for the composition) is also dull. Funny light, and a bit of unknown funkiness, probably something i did to it when making it web ready. The tattoos were very dull, the girl is of African heritage, and has fairly dark skin. The tattoos didn't pop out like they would on a caucasian skin colour. William Robb
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On 3/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - Wrom: KHJYFMYXOEAIJJPH Subject: Re: OT: We have a winner Nicely done, Bill. Congratulations. Thanks Joe. And the prize for winning was? I got to stand in front of them and tell them that their first and second place pictures had rolled off of an inkjet printer. That was worth the cost of admission.. William Robb HA! :-) Congratulations Bill. Dave
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Bill, I wish I could have been there to see the reaction! Congrats on your work! -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, March 9, 2006, 3:43:31 PM, you wrote: WR - Original Message - WR From: Joseph Tainter WR Subject: Re: OT: We have a winner Nicely done, Bill. Congratulations. WR Thanks Joe. And the prize for winning was? WR I got to stand in front of them and tell them that their first and second WR place pictures had rolled off of an inkjet printer. WR That was worth the cost of admission.. WR William Robb
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A few weeks ago, I was invited to attend a competition shoot modeled on the Naked in the House projects. The rules were simple: The pictures had to be shot on BW film, the photographer had one camera, one lens, one roll of film, and half an hour to shoot a nude model using available light only. Reflectors were allowed, and the rules were relaxed so that C-41 monochrome film was allowed. Anyway, it turns out I won the contest with the following image: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/works/01500016b.html Even more interesting (to me, anyway), is that the first *and* second place pictures were printed in an Epson inkjet printer, as opposed to photographic paper. William Robb
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Congratulations William. dk On 3/8/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks ago, I was invited to attend a competition shoot modeled on the Naked in the House projects. The rules were simple: The pictures had to be shot on BW film, the photographer had one camera, one lens, one roll of film, and half an hour to shoot a nude model using available light only. Reflectors were allowed, and the rules were relaxed so that C-41 monochrome film was allowed. Anyway, it turns out I won the contest with the following image: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/works/01500016b.html Even more interesting (to me, anyway), is that the first *and* second place pictures were printed in an Epson inkjet printer, as opposed to photographic paper. William Robb
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Congratulations Bill. I'm not surprised you won. And I'm not surprised that the winners were inkjet prints. On Mar 8, 2006, at 10:23 PM, William Robb wrote: A few weeks ago, I was invited to attend a competition shoot modeled on the Naked in the House projects. The rules were simple: The pictures had to be shot on BW film, the photographer had one camera, one lens, one roll of film, and half an hour to shoot a nude model using available light only. Reflectors were allowed, and the rules were relaxed so that C-41 monochrome film was allowed. Anyway, it turns out I won the contest with the following image: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/works/01500016b.html Even more interesting (to me, anyway), is that the first *and* second place pictures were printed in an Epson inkjet printer, as opposed to photographic paper. William Robb
Re: OT: We have a winner....
Hi! Anyway, it turns out I won the contest with the following image: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/works/01500016b.html Congratulations. Boris
RE: We have a winner....
It's a very nice picture (and the model is a beauty)! Congratulations, Antti-Pekka Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy Turku www.computec.fi -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:24 AM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: OT: We have a winner A few weeks ago, I was invited to attend a competition shoot modeled on the Naked in the House projects. The rules were simple: The pictures had to be shot on BW film, the photographer had one camera, one lens, one roll of film, and half an hour to shoot a nude model using available light only. Reflectors were allowed, and the rules were relaxed so that C-41 monochrome film was allowed. Anyway, it turns out I won the contest with the following image: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/works/01500016b.html Even more interesting (to me, anyway), is that the first *and* second place pictures were printed in an Epson inkjet printer, as opposed to photographic paper. William Robb
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Hi! Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Congratulations... Both on the prize and on the excellent photograph! Which naturally begs the tongue-in-cheek question - do you still shoot digital? Or you joined the MF ranks for good? ;-) Boris
Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a
On 11/2/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: You Brits seem to have raised being spanked by a middle aged lady to the point of religious experience. WW Sort of like life in the Robb household, no? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 11/2/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: Most of my words were spent defending myself against misconstruals. I met misconstruals once. She was nice :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:59:25 -, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John Forbes Subject: Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a Matron will put some ointment on. You're right. There's always a silver lining. You Brits seem to have raised being spanked by a middle aged lady to the point of religious experience. WW Our climate encourages us to develop indoor sports. But, just for your information, at one school I attended the matron was 19 and very pretty. She didn't last long, except in my memories. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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In a message dated 2/10/2006 9:10:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Keith McGuinness wrote: As me too's don't seem (fortunately) to be discouraged on this list, I'll add my Congratulations; great image. Me, too!! ERNR === Ditto. Lots of nice detail and texture. Congrats! Marnie aka Doe
RE: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Mark Roberst wrote: I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! Weel, it might help to open some doors! Congrats Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 10. februar 2006 15:06 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a
Yes you've said it before and I understood it before. Why do you and others keep missing the point that I wrote Marco and was planning on participating? Stop acting like I was not. I have been defending my position, when attacked and ridiculed as being ignorant and stupid when it comes to copyright laws, not bellyaching about protocol. It would be somehow ironic if any of the people who are bitching about Pentax being slow in the marketplace somehow helped can a project that could have, even in a small way, made the company more profitable. Read again: Why do you and others keep missing the point that I wrote Marco and was planning on participating? Stop acting like I was not. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With apologies to Mark Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:04:07 -0600 - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) What I don't understand is the ridicule I received from you and at least one other on the list when I suggested that Pentax Canada did not follow the normal protocol I would have expected. As has been explained to you at least as often as you have brought the point up is that this was something cooked up by a sales rep, not a summons for photos by the Board of Directors. One individual (likely a sales guy) seems to have set it up, he seems to have, based on some hate mail and mail asking for legalese he wasn't prepared to provide, decided to can his little project. That he was a little prickly about it would be perfectly understandable if Aaron is being factual about the less than polite missives. No one likes having their face slapped. This isn't the protocol you expected. Get on with life and forget about it. It would be somehow ironic if any of the people who are bitching about Pentax being slow in the marketplace somehow helped can a project that could have, even in a small way, made the company more profitable. William Robb
Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a
Tom, Nobody's listening. I gave up on this thread a while ago, and suggest you do likewise. There's not a scrap of evidence that any regular PDMLer wrote rude messages, but people are rushing about saying we should apologise to Pentax. Bizarre. John On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:18:56 -, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes you've said it before and I understood it before. Why do you and others keep missing the point that I wrote Marco and was planning on participating? Stop acting like I was not. I have been defending my position, when attacked and ridiculed as being ignorant and stupid when it comes to copyright laws, not bellyaching about protocol. It would be somehow ironic if any of the people who are bitching about Pentax being slow in the marketplace somehow helped can a project that could have, even in a small way, made the company more profitable. Read again: Why do you and others keep missing the point that I wrote Marco and was planning on participating? Stop acting like I was not. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With apologies to Mark Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:04:07 -0600 - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) What I don't understand is the ridicule I received from you and at least one other on the list when I suggested that Pentax Canada did not follow the normal protocol I would have expected. As has been explained to you at least as often as you have brought the point up is that this was something cooked up by a sales rep, not a summons for photos by the Board of Directors. One individual (likely a sales guy) seems to have set it up, he seems to have, based on some hate mail and mail asking for legalese he wasn't prepared to provide, decided to can his little project. That he was a little prickly about it would be perfectly understandable if Aaron is being factual about the less than polite missives. No one likes having their face slapped. This isn't the protocol you expected. Get on with life and forget about it. It would be somehow ironic if any of the people who are bitching about Pentax being slow in the marketplace somehow helped can a project that could have, even in a small way, made the company more profitable. William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a
On 11/2/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: Nobody's listening. I gave up on this thread a while ago, and suggest you do likewise. There's not a scrap of evidence that any regular PDMLer wrote rude messages, but people are rushing about saying we should apologise to Pentax. Bizarre. Well, I'd like to apologise. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a
In that case I aoplogize for innocent people being killed in Iraq. It's partly my fault... Tom C. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:17:39 + On 11/2/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: Nobody's listening. I gave up on this thread a while ago, and suggest you do likewise. There's not a scrap of evidence that any regular PDMLer wrote rude messages, but people are rushing about saying we should apologise to Pentax. Bizarre. Well, I'd like to apologise. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a
People weren't listening all along. :-) Tom C. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:00:29 - Tom, Nobody's listening. I gave up on this thread a while ago, and suggest you do likewise. There's not a scrap of evidence that any regular PDMLer wrote rude messages, but people are rushing about saying we should apologise to Pentax. Bizarre. John On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:18:56 -, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes you've said it before and I understood it before. Why do you and others keep missing the point that I wrote Marco and was planning on participating? Stop acting like I was not. I have been defending my position, when attacked and ridiculed as being ignorant and stupid when it comes to copyright laws, not bellyaching about protocol. It would be somehow ironic if any of the people who are bitching about Pentax being slow in the marketplace somehow helped can a project that could have, even in a small way, made the company more profitable. Read again: Why do you and others keep missing the point that I wrote Marco and was planning on participating? Stop acting like I was not. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With apologies to Mark Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:04:07 -0600 - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) What I don't understand is the ridicule I received from you and at least one other on the list when I suggested that Pentax Canada did not follow the normal protocol I would have expected. As has been explained to you at least as often as you have brought the point up is that this was something cooked up by a sales rep, not a summons for photos by the Board of Directors. One individual (likely a sales guy) seems to have set it up, he seems to have, based on some hate mail and mail asking for legalese he wasn't prepared to provide, decided to can his little project. That he was a little prickly about it would be perfectly understandable if Aaron is being factual about the less than polite missives. No one likes having their face slapped. This isn't the protocol you expected. Get on with life and forget about it. It would be somehow ironic if any of the people who are bitching about Pentax being slow in the marketplace somehow helped can a project that could have, even in a small way, made the company more profitable. William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:17:39 -, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/2/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: Nobody's listening. I gave up on this thread a while ago, and suggest you do likewise. There's not a scrap of evidence that any regular PDMLer wrote rude messages, but people are rushing about saying we should apologise to Pentax. Bizarre. Well, I'd like to apologise. Thank God for that. We can all go home now. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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Well, I'd like to apologise. Thank God for that. We can all go home now. John Nobody's going home, Forbes, until the boy who did it owns up. If I have to keep the whole school here all day, I will. And if I hear another word out of you you'll be in detention every weekend, including Floggers, for the rest of term. Cotterell, I shall be writing to your parents about this sorry episode.
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:34:44 -, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'd like to apologise. Thank God for that. We can all go home now. John Nobody's going home, Forbes, until the boy who did it owns up. If I have to keep the whole school here all day, I will. And if I hear another word out of you you'll be in detention every weekend, including Floggers, for the rest of term. Cotterell, I shall be writing to your parents about this sorry episode. Not Floggers, pleeease. That's my favourite. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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John Forbes wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:34:44 -, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'd like to apologise. Thank God for that. We can all go home now. John Nobody's going home, Forbes, until the boy who did it owns up. If I have to keep the whole school here all day, I will. And if I hear another word out of you you'll be in detention every weekend, including Floggers, for the rest of term. Cotterell, I shall be writing to your parents about this sorry episode. Not Floggers, pleeease. That's my favourite. Matron will put some ointment on.
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:15:38 -, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:34:44 -, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'd like to apologise. Thank God for that. We can all go home now. John Nobody's going home, Forbes, until the boy who did it owns up. If I have to keep the whole school here all day, I will. And if I hear another word out of you you'll be in detention every weekend, including Floggers, for the rest of term. Cotterell, I shall be writing to your parents about this sorry episode. Not Floggers, pleeease. That's my favourite. Matron will put some ointment on. You're right. There's always a silver lining. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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- Original Message - From: John Forbes Subject: Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a Matron will put some ointment on. You're right. There's always a silver lining. You Brits seem to have raised being spanked by a middle aged lady to the point of religious experience. WW
Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With apologies to Mark
Boris Liberman wrote: Tom, Bill, don't you agree that it cannot possibly *really* hurt any of you (or any of the fellow PDMLers) if you gave few 800x600 med-high quality JPGs to Marco... Really, guys, put the legalistics aside and think of it... The grand total time we spent arguing this out is much more than it is really worth. Pity we did not give Marco the pictures, really... Bill's right - we could've helped Pentax a little, which is a noble cause. And it is 800x600 JPGs we're talking, not exhibition size silver prints... Boris who doesn't get it... Um, Boris, perhaps you came in late... 10 people (not necessarily all PDML subscribers) DID send pictures. I was one of them. Once I knew the request was legitimate, I sent them in (as did others). The 10 of us WERE prepared to help Pentax. I even wrote back, after the idea was canned, saying that I would be happy to participate if the idea was revived. Keith McG
Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a
On 2/11/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'd like to apologise. There are so many things you should apologize for, Cotty. This is a good start. g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a
On 2/11/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that case I aoplogize for innocent people being killed in Iraq. It's partly my fault... Only partly? g,dr -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a
I didn't really apologize, I aoplogized. :-) Tom C. From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With a Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:25:36 -0500 On 2/11/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that case I aoplogize for innocent people being killed in Iraq. It's partly my fault... Only partly? g,dr -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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I'd also add that I was: 1. Never arguing against giving photos to Marcos 2. Never arguing that was I concerned with their usage because copyright was not addressed 3. Never demanding an apology from anyone for anything Most of my words were spent defending myself against misconstruals. Tom C. From: Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With apologies to Mark Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:49:22 +0930 Boris Liberman wrote: Tom, Bill, don't you agree that it cannot possibly *really* hurt any of you (or any of the fellow PDMLers) if you gave few 800x600 med-high quality JPGs to Marco... Really, guys, put the legalistics aside and think of it... The grand total time we spent arguing this out is much more than it is really worth. Pity we did not give Marco the pictures, really... Bill's right - we could've helped Pentax a little, which is a noble cause. And it is 800x600 JPGs we're talking, not exhibition size silver prints... Boris who doesn't get it... Um, Boris, perhaps you came in late... 10 people (not necessarily all PDML subscribers) DID send pictures. I was one of them. Once I knew the request was legitimate, I sent them in (as did others). The 10 of us WERE prepared to help Pentax. I even wrote back, after the idea was canned, saying that I would be happy to participate if the idea was revived. Keith McG
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On 11 Feb 2006 at 19:23, frank theriault wrote: On 2/11/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'd like to apologise. There are so many things you should apologize for, Cotty. This is a good start. I vote for Cotty as official PDML apologist, and he who doth not wear Pentax coloured glasses :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Great shot, beautiful light, rich tonality. Congratulations on your well-deserved win. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
What he said! Very nice, congrats. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:07 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) Great shot, beautiful light, rich tonality. Congratulations on your well-deserved win. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Congrats, Mark! Beautiful photo. On 2/10/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Congratulations Mr Roberts. Never underestimate the value of bragging rights Dave On 2/10/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Mark, Congratulation! Extremely nice textures and processing. Sepia is great choice. A small thing I suppose, but I especially like your close attention paid to the borders. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Wonderful shot. Congratulations! dk On 2/10/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, Congratulation! Extremely nice textures and processing. Sepia is great choice. A small thing I suppose, but I especially like your close attention paid to the borders. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Wondeful shot Mark! Gee why worry about the copyright notice? It's just a small .jpg. Tom C. From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:05:31 -0500 Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Good work Mark. Thats a beautiful photo, well composed with astounding light and character. Well composed. Makes me feel like I'm there. I want to see whats on the other side! Mark Roberts wrote: Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
This luddite rejoices. Nice shot, and the sepia doesn't look like a fix. -Lon Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it.
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
On 2/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great shot, beautiful light, rich tonality. Congratulations on your well-deserved win. I concur with Paul. I'd love to see this one all blowed up, and not on a computer screen. It must look amazing! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Church Door (we have a winner)
Very, very well done. Great subject, composition execution. Is the posting full frame? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
A small thing I suppose, but I especially like your close attention paid to the borders. No, I'd call it finishing the image. The mark of a pro. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) Mark, Congratulation! Extremely nice textures and processing. Sepia is great choice. A small thing I suppose, but I especially like your close attention paid to the borders. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very, very well done. Great subject, composition execution. Is the posting full frame? Yep. As much as I could squeeze out of the frame :) For shots like this it's really nice to have the grid focusing screen in the 645. I bought one off eBay a couple of years ago. It turned out to be for a Mamiya 645, but fit perfectly after filing off the tweezer tab which Mamiya places in a different location than Pentax. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great shot, beautiful light, rich tonality. Congratulations on your well-deserved win. I concur with Paul. I'd love to see this one all blowed up, and not on a computer screen. It must look amazing! Thanks Knarf. And Paul. And everyone else. I think a large print of this one will indeed be gracing the house here in the not-too-distant future. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wondeful shot Mark! Gee why worry about the copyright notice? I haven't put one on that photo yet but I usually do in order to indicate wait for the answer here... who the copyright owner is. It's just a small .jpg. Which is why I have no qualms about putting it on the web. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Mark Roberts wrote: Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! Kudos! (as opposed to koodoos) Thats great, Mark! (as opposed to That's great. Mark! :) ) oh well, go ahead and mark, Mark http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! hehe - I did the same thing recently, because I couldn't get a black and white out of my 820 without a pinkish cast (on glossy paper anyway) I had fair results from treating the black and white as color, desaturating it, then giving it a bit of cyan tint - it kinda worked. the photo looks great - I remember it from before. Best, ann
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Mark Roberts wrote: Wondeful shot Mark! Gee why worry about the copyright notice? I haven't put one on that photo yet but I usually do in order to indicate wait for the answer here... who the copyright owner is. It's just a small .jpg. Which is why I have no qualms about putting it on the web. What I don't understand is the ridicule I received from you and at least one other on the list when I suggested that Pentax Canada did not follow the normal protocol I would have expected. If you read my e-mails carefully, without jumping to conclusions, you would have noticed that I never once said I was personally concerned or suspicious about nefarious usage, or about copyright or ownership. I merely stated that it was unusual that it had not been mentioned in a formal manner. And FWIW, let's not make any implications that I have qualms about putting something on the web. You know that I do, so why the distortion? Tom C.
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
As me too's don't seem (fortunately) to be discouraged on this list, I'll add my Congratulations; great image. Keith McG Mark Roberts wrote: Some of you may have seen this in my collection of UK vacation photos from last summer. The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one. I'm not sure if I get anything besides bragging rights but what the heck, maybe it'll look good on my resume! http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Notes: 1. Luddites rejoice! This was shot on FILM! (Pentax 645, Ilford HP5+) 2. I really do like the sepia toning, but the main reason I did it at the time was so I could print it at home: I haven't yet mastered the art of getting neutral monochrome reproduction out of my Epson 2200 and I hoped that the sepia tone would hide any slight color cast. It worked - the print looks great! 3. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the entries in the contest. Yes, there were a lot of vacation snapshots and a few really nice photos that were obviously the kind of lucky grab that we all got from time to time before we started doing photography seriously, but there were several that were clearly the work of talented people. The one I thought should have won was by someone who did people photos of locals in various parts of the Caribbean. He or she had a knack for composition, a talent for getting people to be at ease when he photographed them and a natural eye for good light. Wish this stuff was on line so everyone could see it.
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As me too's don't seem (fortunately) to be discouraged on this list, I'll add my Congratulations; great image. Thanks Keith, I appreciate it. I just learned an additional bit of the backstory for this photo (in addition to what's on my PESO page). I just got off the phone with my parents (who were thrilled that this particular photo won) and my mother told me that the first time she saw this church door was barely six weeks after she and my father first met in London. (My old man worked pretty fast, didn't he? g) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With apologies to Mark
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) What I don't understand is the ridicule I received from you and at least one other on the list when I suggested that Pentax Canada did not follow the normal protocol I would have expected. As has been explained to you at least as often as you have brought the point up is that this was something cooked up by a sales rep, not a summons for photos by the Board of Directors. One individual (likely a sales guy) seems to have set it up, he seems to have, based on some hate mail and mail asking for legalese he wasn't prepared to provide, decided to can his little project. That he was a little prickly about it would be perfectly understandable if Aaron is being factual about the less than polite missives. No one likes having their face slapped. This isn't the protocol you expected. Get on with life and forget about it. It would be somehow ironic if any of the people who are bitching about Pentax being slow in the marketplace somehow helped can a project that could have, even in a small way, made the company more profitable. William Robb
Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner)
Keith McGuinness wrote: As me too's don't seem (fortunately) to be discouraged on this list, I'll add my Congratulations; great image. Me, too!! ERNR Mark Roberts wrote: ... The Office of International Programs at Duquesne University, where I'm currently working on my masters degree, just had a photo contest and I won first prize with this one http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm
Re: The thread that spread. was: Re: PESO: Church Door (we have a winner) With apologies to Mark
Hi! What I don't understand is the ridicule I received from you and at least one other on the list when I suggested that Pentax Canada did not follow the normal protocol I would have expected. As has been explained to you at least as often as you have brought the point up is that this was something cooked up by a sales rep, not a summons for photos by the Board of Directors. One individual (likely a sales guy) seems to have set it up, he seems to have, based on some hate mail and mail asking for legalese he wasn't prepared to provide, decided to can his little project. That he was a little prickly about it would be perfectly understandable if Aaron is being factual about the less than polite missives. No one likes having their face slapped. This isn't the protocol you expected. Get on with life and forget about it. It would be somehow ironic if any of the people who are bitching about Pentax being slow in the marketplace somehow helped can a project that could have, even in a small way, made the company more profitable. Tom, Bill, don't you agree that it cannot possibly *really* hurt any of you (or any of the fellow PDMLers) if you gave few 800x600 med-high quality JPGs to Marco... Really, guys, put the legalistics aside and think of it... The grand total time we spent arguing this out is much more than it is really worth. Pity we did not give Marco the pictures, really... Bill's right - we could've helped Pentax a little, which is a noble cause. And it is 800x600 JPGs we're talking, not exhibition size silver prints... Boris who doesn't get it...
Re: We have a winner!
On 6/7/05, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-06-06, at 22:51, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: he wants btw. a nice lens, it's not very clear for me but it seems his choices are the FA 35 f/2 or the F(? is that correct, or Jessops screwed the codes and it's in fact the FA?)28-105 f/3.2-4.5. Both black. What do you think? (I'll forward to him your advices, 10x). nice lens because of its quality is FA 35/2. Nice lens because of being universal is FA (there was no F version) 28-105/3.2-4.5. I'd take both if I was your friend :-) http://www.dcmag.co.uk/2005awards/article.asp?a=10 Congratulation, Florin Nastasa! (and I hope we'll meet here, soon). Congratulations too! -- Best regards Sylwek Uhh... I forgot to sign my previous mail. How rude! :( I was surprised to see such a contest - and I'm talking about the prize, that's marketing and I think we agreed Pentax doesn't have a marketing dept. grin So, I think this is a good sign; and if they'll release the *istD replacement soon enough... Best regards, Alex Sarbu
We have a winner!
Hi! Guess what... I was wandering around my favourite forums, when I've saw this: a fellow Romanian who took the 1st place at a photography contest. That't not all: guess what was the prize... an *istDS, no more or less! And a 250l voucher - he wants btw. a nice lens, it's not very clear for me but it seems his choices are the FA 35 f/2 or the F(? is that correct, or Jessops screwed the codes and it's in fact the FA?)28-105 f/3.2-4.5. Both black. What do you think? (I'll forward to him your advices, 10x). http://www.dcmag.co.uk/2005awards/article.asp?a=10 Congratulation, Florin Nastasa! (and I hope we'll meet here, soon).
Re: We have a winner!
On 2005-06-06, at 22:51, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: he wants btw. a nice lens, it's not very clear for me but it seems his choices are the FA 35 f/2 or the F(? is that correct, or Jessops screwed the codes and it's in fact the FA?)28-105 f/3.2-4.5. Both black. What do you think? (I'll forward to him your advices, 10x). nice lens because of its quality is FA 35/2. Nice lens because of being universal is FA (there was no F version) 28-105/3.2-4.5. I'd take both if I was your friend :-) http://www.dcmag.co.uk/2005awards/article.asp?a=10 Congratulation, Florin Nastasa! (and I hope we'll meet here, soon). Congratulations too! -- Best regards Sylwek
