CSMycoplasma infections and rheumatoid arthritis

[Ole Alstrup]

My girlfriend, aged 55, developed rheumatoid arthritis symptoms in knees and a 
few other
joints, following a mycoplasma pneumonia, this about a year ago. I looked it up
and sure enough there is an established scientific correlation.


I would be grateful for any input regarding treatment of this. 


Thanks,

Ole

Re: CSMycoplasma infections and rheumatoid arthritis

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Ole,
As a long-term Lymie, I experienced these same early symptoms. (BTW, 
antibiotics for my myco plunged me into a 1.5 year herxheimer response; once 
Lyme is chronic, abx only postpone the disease, and enable the encysted 
spirochetes to multiply while dormant: not good)) 
Check out canlyme.com
It's a Canadian site that provides a symptoms list, and if you check off a 
certain number of symptoms, you've just accomplished a reliable clinical 
diagnosis. test are notoriously unreliable and delay in treatment isn't a good 
thing. Better to proceed with alternative protocols once there's been a 
clinical diagnosis. Best of luck.\
Be well,
Léna


On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Ole Alstrup wrote:

 My girlfriend, aged 55, developed rheumatoid arthritis symptoms in knees and 
 a few other
 joints, following a mycoplasma pneumonia, this about a year ago. I looked it 
 up
 and sure enough there is an established scientific correlation.
 
 I would be grateful for any input regarding treatment of this. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ole

Re: CSMycoplasma infections and rheumatoid arthritis

[Ole Alstrup]

Hi Léna,

Thanks for the input, but I am not asking about Lyme Disease, I am interested 
in mycoplasma protocols.

Thanks,

Ole





 From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, 9 December 2012, 18:21
Subject: Re: CSMycoplasma infections and rheumatoid arthritis
 

Hi Ole,
As a long-term Lymie, I experienced these same early symptoms. (BTW, 
antibiotics for my myco plunged me into a 1.5 year herxheimer response; once 
Lyme is chronic, abx only postpone the disease, and enable the encysted 
spirochetes to multiply while dormant: not good)) 
Check out canlyme.com
It's a Canadian site that provides a symptoms list, and if you check off a 
certain number of symptoms, you've just accomplished a reliable clinical 
diagnosis. test are notoriously unreliable and delay in treatment isn't a good 
thing. Better to proceed with alternative protocols once there's been a 
clinical diagnosis. Best of luck.\
Be well,
Léna




On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Ole Alstrup wrote:

My girlfriend, aged 55, developed rheumatoid arthritis symptoms in knees and a 
few other
joints, following a mycoplasma pneumonia, this about a year ago. I looked it 
up
and sure enough there is an established scientific correlation.



I would be grateful for any input regarding treatment of this. 



Thanks,


Ole

Re: CSMycoplasma infections and rheumatoid arthritis

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Ole,

I realize that. The problem is that SO many of us were misdiagnosed (and are 
still being misdiagnosed), some before there was even a name for the disease, 
and the treatments for our misdiagnoses were often counter-productive to real 
recovery. I would have given anything to know this back when I was treated for 
RA and mycoplasma pneumonia. I'm just saying that all things should be 
considered.

Léna
On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Ole Alstrup wrote:

 Hi Léna,
 
 Thanks for the input, but I am not asking about Lyme Disease, I am interested 
 in mycoplasma protocols.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ole
 
 From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, 9 December 2012, 18:21
 Subject: Re: CSMycoplasma infections and rheumatoid arthritis
 
 Hi Ole,
 As a long-term Lymie, I experienced these same early symptoms. (BTW, 
 antibiotics for my myco plunged me into a 1.5 year herxheimer response; once 
 Lyme is chronic, abx only postpone the disease, and enable the encysted 
 spirochetes to multiply while dormant: not good)) 
 Check out canlyme.com
 It's a Canadian site that provides a symptoms list, and if you check off a 
 certain number of symptoms, you've just accomplished a reliable clinical 
 diagnosis. test are notoriously unreliable and delay in treatment isn't a 
 good thing. Better to proceed with alternative protocols once there's been a 
 clinical diagnosis. Best of luck.\
 Be well,
 Léna
 
 
 On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Ole Alstrup wrote:
 
 My girlfriend, aged 55, developed rheumatoid arthritis symptoms in knees and 
 a few other
 joints, following a mycoplasma pneumonia, this about a year ago. I looked it 
 up
 and sure enough there is an established scientific correlation.
 
 I would be grateful for any input regarding treatment of this. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ole
 
 
 

CSmycoplasma

[Lisa]

Hello All,

 

Has anybody heard of mycoplasma (a bacteria) - which can effect different
things including one's immune system?

 

Will using EIS kill this bacteria dead!?!?

 

Lisa

Re: CSmycoplasma

[Steve G]

Mycoplasma are pretty well-known, but normal medicine can't touch it since 
these bacterium have no cell walls, and that is what standard antibacterials 
target.

Fortunately, mycoplasma can be addressed through MMS1 and/or MMS2.  I don't 
know whether EIS has any effect though.

Standard medical theory is that a person has a 'normal' immune system, then one 
day 'something' happens and the immune system goes crazy and starts attacking 
it's own cells.

Another theory that doesn't get much press, is that auto-immune diseases are 
mostly NOT a matter of immune systems magically going insane one day, but 
rather the immune system is working the way it was designed.  The problem is 
that the mycoplasmas have infected skin, joints and/or organs and have 
penetrated the cells.  They are putting out foreign waste within the cells, and 
the immune system starts fighting these infections, but not very effectively.  
In the meantime, the immune system is always overwhelmed and the body is more 
susceptible to other diseases as well.

Standard medical treatment for autoimmunities includes immune suppression as 
with steroids.  This makes the patient feel better quickly, since the immune 
system has backed off and is no longer causing inflammation in the affected 
tissues.   Unfortunately, the side-effect of suppressing the immune system is 
that this allows the mycoplasma infection to become more invasive and affect 
additional joints, organs, or skin areas.

That's my take anyway.    

I believe that auto-immune diseases can be more effectively treated by use of 
LDN therapy, MMS1,  MMS2, and maybe CS as well.  Having said that, we are still 
struggling with my wife's auto-immune disease using both allopathic and 
non-traditional methods.  I don't know the best protocol to address auto-immune 
disease, but I do believe the answer lies in enhancing or reinforcing the 
immune system rather than suppressing it.

Steve G.

0



--- On Wed, 11/10/10, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
Subject: CSmycoplasma
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 3:20 PM




 
 






Hello All, 

   

Has anybody heard of mycoplasma (a bacteria) – which can
effect different things including one’s immune system? 

   

Will using EIS kill this bacteria dead!?!? 

   

Lisa 



 




  

RE: CSmycoplasma

[Lisa]

Thank you Steve, I am thrilled with your response as it makes a lot of sense
to me. I know of  LDN, MMS1 and MMS2 - and of course EIS.

 

I've got LDN though have never taken it regularly (does this ever go bad)?
I mixed a batch and it's been in the fridge as I know you're only supposed
to take 2-3mg (I believe) and each pill is 50mg so you have to dissolve it
and then go from there (for me a dropperful is about the right dose) -
though I wonder if it's no good because it's been in the fridge so long.

 

I did MMS2 before and will start doing it again. Do you suggest using the
old protocol or the new protocol? And I never fared well with the MMS2
so I'd like to just stick with MMS1 if you think that will do the trick.
I'll reach out to the MMS group and ask - but since you're way a head of me
with your wife, I'd love to hear what seems to be working with her (I've got
Grave's and have never felt right for years now and I'm tired of it: haha,
literally and physically).

 

Thanks again.

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:34 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSmycoplasma

 


Mycoplasma are pretty well-known, but normal medicine can't touch it since
these bacterium have no cell walls, and that is what standard antibacterials
target.

Fortunately, mycoplasma can be addressed through MMS1 and/or MMS2.  I don't
know whether EIS has any effect though.

Standard medical theory is that a person has a 'normal' immune system, then
one day 'something' happens and the immune system goes crazy and starts
attacking it's own cells.

Another theory that doesn't get much press, is that auto-immune diseases are
mostly NOT a matter of immune systems magically going insane one day, but
rather the immune system is working the way it was designed.  The problem is
that the mycoplasmas have infected skin, joints and/or organs and have
penetrated the cells.  They are putting out foreign waste within the cells,
and the immune system starts fighting these infections, but not very
effectively.  In the meantime, the immune system is always overwhelmed and
the body is more susceptible to other diseases as well.

Standard medical treatment for autoimmunities includes immune suppression as
with steroids.  This makes the patient feel better quickly, since the immune
system has backed off and is no longer causing inflammation in the affected
tissues.   Unfortunately, the side-effect of suppressing the immune system
is that this allows the mycoplasma infection to become more invasive and
affect additional joints, organs, or skin areas.

That's my take anyway.

I believe that auto-immune diseases can be more effectively treated by use
of LDN therapy, MMS1,  MMS2, and maybe CS as well.  Having said that, we are
still struggling with my wife's auto-immune disease using both allopathic
and non-traditional methods.  I don't know the best protocol to address
auto-immune disease, but I do believe the answer lies in enhancing or
reinforcing the immune system rather than suppressing it.

Steve G.

0

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--- On Wed, 11/10/10, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:


From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
Subject: CSmycoplasma
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 3:20 PM

Hello All,

 

Has anybody heard of mycoplasma (a bacteria) - which can effect different
things including one's immune system?

 

Will using EIS kill this bacteria dead!?!?

 

Lisa

 

CSRe[2]: CSmycoplasma

[JS Campbell]

Here is a link to info on a book out recently by Prof Garth Nicolson on  his 
and others quest to uncover  mycoplasmas as the cause of GWS and other 
illnesses.

BW,
Sheila

http://www.gulfwarvets.com/projectdaylily.htm
Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 3:55:49 AM, you wrote:
ND Mycplasma is a man made virus that I believe is the cause of most all auto
ND immunine diseases:
ND This is only my theory, but it makes a great deal of sense to me.

ND Nancy





ND MS, is an autoimmune disease.  When we have an autoimmune disease, the
ND doctor tells us our body attacks itself for no reason.  There are entirely
ND too many bodies attacking themselves for no reason.  There must be a reason
ND for all the attacking.

ND We all have mycoplasma (very tiny one celled organisms with no cell
ND wall) on our bodies.  For the most part they are harmless.

ND (Mycoplasmas - Stealth Pathogens 
ND www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm ).  When we
ND have a stress in our lives, these mycoplasma invade our own cells.  Because
ND they are so tiny, they invade our cells and because they have no cell walls,
ND they take the shape of our cell.  It feeds off of our cell.  Our immune
ND system knows there is something there, BUT, because it is now hidden in our
ND own cells, our immune system cannot find the pathogen.  It attacks and
ND cannot find anything, but there is very definitely something there.

ND The cells the mycoplasma invades is pretty much the disease we get.  It
ND invades our central nervous system, we have MS.  It invades our organs:
ND Lupus; invades our joints: rheumatoid arthritis; fibromyalgia; chronic
ND fatigue syndrome; croans, and on and on.

ND Colloidal Silver kills single cells.  It will get to the mycoplasma and
ND suffocate it.  Then, the dead mycoplasma and the CS are eliminated from the
ND body. I realize this sounds too easy and simple, and I'm sure it is more
ND complicated then that, but basically, this is the process.  The main problem
ND is that it is very difficult to get the CS to the mycoplasma. That is the
ND challenge we have.  That is why it is a very slow, subtle process.

ND  http://mindcontrolforums.com/mycoplamsa.htm  Mycoplasma is misspelled, but
ND this is correct site.

ND  http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol3no1/baseman.htm

ND http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/8/mycoplasma.htm

ND http://www.rense.com/general62/molecularterrorism.htm

ND - Original Message - 
ND From: Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com
ND To: silver-list@eskimo.com
ND Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:41 AM
Subject: CSmycoplasma


 HI Ernie, I thought that mycoplasma was a bacterium?
 It is interesting the different theories about ms.  I
 have heard that it is caused by the same virus as
 chicken pox,shingles and herpes.



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RE: CSmycoplasma

[Ernie Patai]

Hi Betsy,

Go here: http://tinyurl.com/4h8b9

This will tell u pretty much what you need to know. :-)
Mycoplasma isn't something that should be in the body. We were exposed to
it, and as a result we develop a host of problems over time along with
whatever life deals us. Check it out.

Ernie

-Original Message-
From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 1:42 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSmycoplasma

HI Ernie, I thought that mycoplasma was a bacterium?
It is interesting the different theories about ms.  I
have heard that it is caused by the same virus as
chicken pox,shingles and herpes. 



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Re: CSmycoplasma

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Someone recently provided a link to an article from the U. of Texas.  
This article states that some mycoplasma are commensal, that is, they 
normally reside in the human body.


That essay is worth reading -- highly informative!

NB that beta amaloid protein, implicated in Alzheimer's disease, is 
found in normal, healthy humans, and plays some role in our metabolism. 
  Why it goes awry in some persons is not known.


One last thing:  there has been some discussion here recently about 
aluminum.   From education I garnered on this list, it occurs to me 
that even though aluminum is plentiful in nature, it may be that 
man-made compounds, such as the aluminum chlorhydrate found in some 
deodorants, has a toxic effect that the natural element does not have.


We listers know that EIS is generally non-toxic and harmless, whereas 
various compounds, particularly silver nitrate, are toxic.The same 
may be true of aluminum.   I do not know exactly what form of aluminum 
is found in the brains of deceased patients, but it might be worth 
knowing this detail.



JBB



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Mycoplasma isn't something that should be in the body. 



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Re: CSmycoplasma

[Nancy DeLise]

Mycplasma is a man made virus that I believe is the cause of most all auto
immunine diseases:
This is only my theory, but it makes a great deal of sense to me.

Nancy





MS, is an autoimmune disease.  When we have an autoimmune disease, the
doctor tells us our body attacks itself for no reason.  There are entirely
too many bodies attacking themselves for no reason.  There must be a reason
for all the attacking.

We all have mycoplasma (very tiny one celled organisms with no cell
wall) on our bodies.  For the most part they are harmless.

(Mycoplasmas - Stealth Pathogens  www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm ).  When we
have a stress in our lives, these mycoplasma invade our own cells.  Because
they are so tiny, they invade our cells and because they have no cell walls,
they take the shape of our cell.  It feeds off of our cell.  Our immune
system knows there is something there, BUT, because it is now hidden in our
own cells, our immune system cannot find the pathogen.  It attacks and
cannot find anything, but there is very definitely something there.

The cells the mycoplasma invades is pretty much the disease we get.  It
invades our central nervous system, we have MS.  It invades our organs:
Lupus; invades our joints: rheumatoid arthritis; fibromyalgia; chronic
fatigue syndrome; croans, and on and on.

Colloidal Silver kills single cells.  It will get to the mycoplasma and
suffocate it.  Then, the dead mycoplasma and the CS are eliminated from the
body. I realize this sounds too easy and simple, and I'm sure it is more
complicated then that, but basically, this is the process.  The main problem
is that it is very difficult to get the CS to the mycoplasma.  That is the
challenge we have.  That is why it is a very slow, subtle process.

 http://mindcontrolforums.com/mycoplamsa.htm  Mycoplasma is misspelled, but
this is correct site.

 http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol3no1/baseman.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/8/mycoplasma.htm

http://www.rense.com/general62/molecularterrorism.htm

- Original Message - 
From: Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:41 AM
Subject: CSmycoplasma


 HI Ernie, I thought that mycoplasma was a bacterium?
 It is interesting the different theories about ms.  I
 have heard that it is caused by the same virus as
 chicken pox,shingles and herpes.



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CSmycoplasma

[Betsy Coffey]

HI Ernie, I thought that mycoplasma was a bacterium?
It is interesting the different theories about ms.  I
have heard that it is caused by the same virus as
chicken pox,shingles and herpes. 



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Re: CSMycoplasma Questions

[mborgert]

You are right on.  
Most of my life I have worked with exotic animals including all parrots, we 
always kept all birds away from the public for not only can the birds give the 
flu to humans but also humans can also give the flu, colds etc. to birds.  I 
remember our vet continually making us protecting the birds (parakeets 
included) from humans and visa versa.  I really do not know if the humans gave 
the flu to the birds or visa versa for all of the exotic and non exotic birds 
were grown locally and none were ever imported.  we sold hundreds of birds 
monthly and I monitored each and every bird for 3 months.
We had one case of the flu(bird)(parakeet) the customers MD said.  I had my vet 
check this out and it  seems that the child had the flu when they purchased the 
parakeet my vet assumed that the child gave the flu to the bird.
The bird flu is nothing new!! I personally checked out all breeding facilities 
as you know all birds have leg bands thus insuring we knew from where the birds 
came.  In each facility I checked to see if the breeders had ever come down 
with the flu, checked with their vets, none had, all facilities were very clean 
and neet.
I always wondered if the world health organ. ever checked out the possibility 
that the humans gave the flu to the(local) birds in the case of the wild birds 
I am assuming that they probably have always had this strain, otherwise where 
did the wild birds obtain this type of flu??? 
In the past I have raised every exotic primate including 2 gorillas, in each 
case all primates must be protected FROM HUMANS not visa versa.
Also we sold thousands of tropical fish per week in the case of salt water 
tropicals humans can get many kinds of fungas and when dealing with coral this 
raises many more problems.  When dealing with salt water and corals one must 
wear long gloves for if one has an opened wound the fungas can enter.  We never 
had this problem for we always protected ourselves.  To me this is more 
prevelant than the bird flu.
so the question one asks is what came first did the human have the flu and gave 
it to the (local bird population) or visa versa.  
I have never delt with wild birds for we always considered that they have MANY 
DISEASES that can pass to humans including the bird flu.
-- Original message from Jonathan B. Britten 
jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp: -- 


 Some years ago I was treated in hospital for this; there was an 
 epidemic. Tens of thousands were infected. Fortunately most cases 
 were mono-lobar, i.e., involving one lung only, else the fatality rate 
 would likely have been much higher. 
 
 
 It is a very serious condition. It does respond to antibiotics, 
 usually, but takes a long time to clear up completely. 
 
 
 Interestingly, one doctor who checked my lungs asked about contact 
 with birds such as parrots. This was many years ago, before all the 
 bird-flu talk; birds have been a well-known vector for quite a long 
 time. 
 
 
 Knowing what I know now, I would attempt the alternative protocols 
 discussed on this list, but would not forego the standard treatment if 
 it is working. 
 
 
 Mycoplasmas are nasty; get good medical supervision, I would say. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Monday, Oct 24, 2005, at 22:41 Asia/Tokyo, Al Riley wrote: 
 
 
 ArialHello fellow 
 SilverListers! 
 
 
 ArialA dear friend of mine has 
 developed Mycoplasma Pneumonia. He believes he caught it from his 
 son, a recently returned soldier who was stationed in Iraq. The son 
 has had a hacking cough since his return about a month ago, and now, 
 after a couple weeks,my friend has been diagnosed with this Mycoplasma 
 infection. Do any of the distinguished member of this group have any 
 suggestions on how to treat this condition. Does Colloidal Silver 
 help? Would a Terminator2 Zapper help? I remember some discussions 
 on this list, but I can’t recall the conclusions. Thank you for your 
 help!! 
 
 
 ArialAl Riley 
 
 
 

Re: CSMycoplasma Questions - further suggestions

[Rowena]

   My son had mycoplasma pneumonia a few months ago.  He was treated at the 
time with zithromax and seemed to recover completely.  My concern is the 
possibility of lasting effects.  Are you all aware of any further natural 
treatment that I need to employ to be sure he has no lasting effects?

I would look at coconut oil as well as the CS, and homeopathic remedies 
chosen by electrodermal screening, to make sure the exact frequencies of the 
pathogens are selected, along with any others that may be lurking.  This 
would be very specific.  Where I go: http://www.taracentre.com.au/ - there 
would be info and links to other practitioners there.  Propolis might be 
another way to go.
Good wishes to him
Rowena


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CSMycoplasma Questions

[Al Riley]

Hello fellow SilverListers!

A dear friend of mine has developed Mycoplasma Pneumonia.  He believes
he caught it from his son, a recently returned soldier who was stationed
in Iraq.  The son has had a hacking cough since his return about a month
ago, and now, after a couple weeks,my friend has been diagnosed with
this Mycoplasma infection.  Do any of the distinguished member of this
group have any suggestions on how to treat this condition.  Does
Colloidal Silver help?  Would a Terminator2 Zapper help?  I remember
some discussions on this list, but I can't recall the conclusions.
Thank you for your help!!

Al Riley

Re: CSMycoplasma Questions

[Robert Berger]

Hi Al,
 
Probably the best solution is to get an ultrasonic vaporizer and make a mix of 
90% silver solution and 10 % DMSO. The DMSO is needed to cut thru the muscus in 
the lungs so the Silver can work.
 
You could make a nebulizer out of an artist air brush and an air compressor but 
that will take more time that buying an off the shelf item.
 
Ole Bob


 

Re: CSMycoplasma Questions

[Robert Berger]

Hi Al,
 
Probably the best solution is to get an ultrasonic vaporizer and make a mix of 
90% silver solution and 10 % DMSO. The DMSO is needed to cut thru the muscus in 
the lungs so the Silver can work.
 
You could make a nebulizer out of an artist air brush and an air compressor but 
that will take more time that buying an off the shelf item.
 
Ole Bob


 

RE: CSMycoplasma Questions

[Ernie Patai]

Hello Al,

 

Yes Silver can help, but I would strongly suggest you see a homeopathic
doctor. Mycoplasma infection is responsible for a host of disease out there.

MS, being one of them which me sister is slowly recovering from. For the
longest time we didn't know what to do with her condition because the
medical community says there isn't a cure, and they are right! May be not
for MS and all the host of other diseases, but for Mycoplasma there is.
*wink* I went to homoepath where I live (Toronto) who identified her cause
and is now treating her. It is very difficult to identify Mycoplasma, she
uses a method which through ones bodies frequency can detect it. 

 

Wishing all the best.

 

Ernie

 

-Original Message-
From: Al Riley [mailto:a...@domsys.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:42 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMycoplasma Questions

 

Hello fellow SilverListers!

A dear friend of mine has developed Mycoplasma Pneumonia.  He believes he
caught it from his son, a recently returned soldier who was stationed in
Iraq.  The son has had a hacking cough since his return about a month ago,
and now, after a couple weeks,my friend has been diagnosed with this
Mycoplasma infection.  Do any of the distinguished member of this group have
any suggestions on how to treat this condition.  Does Colloidal Silver help?
Would a Terminator2 Zapper help?  I remember some discussions on this list,
but I can't recall the conclusions.  Thank you for your help!!

Al Riley

Re: CSMycoplasma Questions

[Sarah]

Hi all.
   My son had mycoplasma pneumonia a few months ago.  He was treated at the 
time with zithromax and seemed to recover completely.  My concern is the 
possibility of lasting effects.  Are you all aware of any further natural 
treatment that I need to employ to be sure he has no lasting effects?
Thanks. Sarah
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ernie Patai 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:45 AM
  Subject: RE: CSMycoplasma Questions


  Hello Al,



  Yes Silver can help, but I would strongly suggest you see a homeopathic 
doctor. Mycoplasma infection is responsible for a host of disease out there.

  MS, being one of them which me sister is slowly recovering from. For the 
longest time we didn't know what to do with her condition because the medical 
community says there isn't a cure, and they are right! May be not for MS and 
all the host of other diseases, but for Mycoplasma there is. *wink* I went to 
homoepath where I live (Toronto) who identified her cause and is now treating 
her. It is very difficult to identify Mycoplasma, she uses a method which 
through ones bodies frequency can detect it. 



  Wishing all the best.



  Ernie



  -Original Message-
  From: Al Riley [mailto:a...@domsys.com] 
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:42 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSMycoplasma Questions



  Hello fellow SilverListers!

  A dear friend of mine has developed Mycoplasma Pneumonia.  He believes he 
caught it from his son, a recently returned soldier who was stationed in Iraq.  
The son has had a hacking cough since his return about a month ago, and now, 
after a couple weeks,my friend has been diagnosed with this Mycoplasma 
infection.  Do any of the distinguished member of this group have any 
suggestions on how to treat this condition.  Does Colloidal Silver help?  Would 
a Terminator2 Zapper help?  I remember some discussions on this list, but I 
can't recall the conclusions.  Thank you for your help!!

  Al Riley

Re: CSMycoplasma Questions

[T J Garland]

I picked up mycoplasma incognitus from Gulf War 1 and required a PCR test to 
identify it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ernie Patai 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:45 AM
  Subject: RE: CSMycoplasma Questions


  Hello Al,



  Yes Silver can help, but I would strongly suggest you see a homeopathic 
doctor. Mycoplasma infection is responsible for a host of disease out there.

  MS, being one of them which me sister is slowly recovering from. For the 
longest time we didn't know what to do with her condition because the medical 
community says there isn't a cure, and they are right! May be not for MS and 
all the host of other diseases, but for Mycoplasma there is. *wink* I went to 
homoepath where I live (Toronto) who identified her cause and is now treating 
her. It is very difficult to identify Mycoplasma, she uses a method which 
through ones bodies frequency can detect it. 



  Wishing all the best.



  Ernie



  -Original Message-
  From: Al Riley [mailto:a...@domsys.com] 
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:42 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSMycoplasma Questions



  Hello fellow SilverListers!

  A dear friend of mine has developed Mycoplasma Pneumonia.  He believes he 
caught it from his son, a recently returned soldier who was stationed in Iraq.  
The son has had a hacking cough since his return about a month ago, and now, 
after a couple weeks,my friend has been diagnosed with this Mycoplasma 
infection.  Do any of the distinguished member of this group have any 
suggestions on how to treat this condition.  Does Colloidal Silver help?  Would 
a Terminator2 Zapper help?  I remember some discussions on this list, but I 
can't recall the conclusions.  Thank you for your help!!

  Al Riley

Re: CSMycoplasma Questions

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Some years ago I was treated in hospital for this; there was an 
epidemic.   Tens of thousands were infected.  Fortunately most cases 
were mono-lobar, i.e., involving one lung only, else the fatality rate 
would likely have been much higher.


 It is a very serious condition.  It does respond to antibiotics, 
usually, but takes a long time to clear up completely.


Interestingly, one doctor who checked my lungs asked about contact with 
birds such as parrots.  This was many years ago, before all the 
bird-flu talk;  birds have been a well-known vector for quite a long 
time.


Knowing what I know now, I would attempt the  alternative protocols 
discussed on this list, but would not forego the standard treatment if 
it is working.


Mycoplasmas are nasty;  get good medical supervision, I would say.






On Monday, Oct 24, 2005, at 22:41 Asia/Tokyo, Al Riley wrote:


Hello fellow SilverListers!

A dear friend of mine has developed Mycoplasma Pneumonia.  He believes 
he caught it from his son, a recently returned soldier who was 
stationed in Iraq.  The son has had a hacking cough since his return 
about a month ago, and now, after a couple weeks,my friend has been 
diagnosed with this Mycoplasma infection.  Do any of the distinguished 
member of this group have any suggestions on how to treat this 
condition.  Does Colloidal Silver help?  Would a Terminator2 Zapper 
help?  I remember some discussions on this list, but I can’t recall 
the conclusions.  Thank you for your help!!


Al Riley

CSSubject: Re: CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and (Laetrile comments)

[patriot2000]

Cliff wrote:
Apricot kernels have been seized from all of
the health food stores in Canada and the USA, because when used properly
with an adequate diet, they have been shown to stop and reverse many
cancers.

The same thing that is in apricot kernels is
also in apple seeds, millet and many other foods, especially that of
seeds.

You must not eat many of the foods known to
cure cancer or other problems - if it is going to put the big pharms out
of business or stopping governments from running our lives as if we were
cattle or sheep.
Here are a couple of articles which will show that there is a great deal
of Laetrile in wheat grass. What are they gonna do, keep you from
growing grass, too? (Yeah, I know the other kind of grass would
bring down the Feds, but WHEAT grass?) I was told about the use of
wheat grass in fighting cancer when I was diagnosed with breast cancer 8
years ago. I had no idea why it was good to use it but when I was
told it helped counteract radiation poisoning, I began to grow and juice
it during the weeks I was getting radiation therapy. Not only did I
have no side effects whatsoever from the radiation, I found that it did
give a really good energy boost, and I continued to use it for months
afterwards, until the labor of seeding, growing, cutting, and juicing it
got to be too much. I mixed it with Snappy Tom tomato cocktail to
cut the taste. Even now I take a little each day in its dried form,
mixed with other greens -- barley grass, chlorella, and spirulina --
stirred into a little water. I don't know if the dried form has the
same potent factors that fresh cut does -- probably not -- but it
probably has some benefits. I find it has a disgusting taste and
appearance -- like drinking swamp water -- but adding some lemon juice
helps a great deal. Yech! I wish someone would find that
chocolate has tremendous cancer fighting qualities! :-) 

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Wheatgrass.html


http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010107/spectrum/main6.htm
Marlys





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Re: CSSubject: Re: CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and (Laetrile comments)

[Sally Khanna]

I think it's the aftertaste of wheatgrass juice that's offensive.  Strongly 
saccarin-like.
But spirulina is the WORST and I take it every day.
 
Sally

patriot2...@mindspring.com wrote:
Cliff wrote:

Apricot kernels have been seized from all of the health food stores in Canada 
and the USA, because when used properly with an adequate diet, they have been 
shown to stop and reverse many cancers.
 
The same thing that is in apricot kernels is also in apple seeds, millet and 
many other foods, especially that of seeds.
 
You must not eat many of the foods known to cure cancer or other problems - if 
it is going to put the big pharms out of business or stopping governments from 
running our lives as if we were cattle or sheep.
Here are a couple of articles which will show that there is a great deal of 
Laetrile in wheat grass.  What are they gonna do, keep you from growing grass, 
too?  (Yeah, I know the other kind of grass would bring down the Feds, but 
WHEAT grass?)  I was told about the use of wheat grass in fighting cancer when 
I was diagnosed with breast cancer 8 years ago.  I had no idea why it was good 
to use it but when I was told it helped counteract radiation poisoning, I began 
to grow and juice it during the weeks I was getting radiation therapy.  Not 
only did I have no side effects whatsoever from the radiation, I found that it 
did give a really good energy boost, and I continued to use it for months 
afterwards, until the labor of seeding, growing, cutting, and juicing it got to 
be too much.  I mixed it with Snappy Tom tomato cocktail to cut the taste.  
Even now I take a little each day in its dried form, mixed with other greens -- 
barley grass, chlorella, and spirulina -- stirred into a little
 water.  I don't know if the dried form has the same potent factors that fresh 
cut does -- probably not -- but it probably has some benefits.  I find it has a 
disgusting taste and appearance -- like drinking swamp water -- but adding some 
lemon juice helps a great deal.  Yech!  I wish someone would find that 
chocolate has tremendous cancer fighting qualities!  :-) 

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Wheatgrass.html

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010107/spectrum/main6.htm

Marlys

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Re: CSSubject: Re: CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and (Laetrile comments)

[sol]

I'd consider a nightshade-free diet as well, so would never add 
wheatgrass juice to tomato juice.
I've been reading up on the problems the nightshades pose to sensitive 
people, and the possible lesser but still cumulative effects on maybe 
everyone.

sol




Here are a couple of articles which will show that there is a
great deal of Laetrile in wheat grass.  What are they gonna do,
keep you from growing grass, too?  (Yeah, I know the other kind of
grass would bring down the Feds, but WHEAT grass?)  I was t! old
about the use of wheat grass in fighting cancer when I was
diagnosed with breast cancer 8 years ago.  I had no idea why it
was good to use it but when I was told it helped counteract
radiation poisoning, I began to grow and juice it during the weeks
I was getting radiation therapy.  Not only did I have no side
effects whatsoever from the radiation, I found that it did give a
really good energy boost, and I continued to use it for months
afterwards, until the labor of seeding, growing, cutting, and
juicing it got to be too much.  I mixed it with Snappy Tom tomato
cocktail to cut the taste.  Even now I take a little each day in
its dried form, mixed with other greens -- barley grass,
chlorella, and spirulina -- stirred into a little water.  I don't
know if the dried form has the same potent factors that fresh cut
does -- probably not -- but it probably has some benefits.  I find
it has a disgusting taste and appearance -- like drinking swamp
water -- b! ut adding some lemon juice helps a great deal.  Yech! 
I wish someone would find that chocolate has tremendous cancer

fighting qualities!  :-)

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Wheatgrass.html

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010107/spectrum/main6.htm

Marlys





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Re: CSSubject: Re: CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and (Laetrile comments)

[Himagain]

At 02:38 AM 11/02/05, you wrote:

I think it's the aftertaste of wheatgrass juice that's 
offensive.  Strongly saccarin-like.

But spirulina is the WORST and I take it every day.

Sally

Hi Sally  folks,
But doesn't it seem strange that people are now juicing everything?  No 
wonder the aftertaste is so rotten!   That's your body saying don't do 
this to me!
Like most supplements and health drinks they are stressing your body - 
and if you happen to be typically ill .
I feel like screaming at mothers who ram 3-4 oranges thru a juicer and 
stuff that down the kids throats. How many adults could even eat three 
oranges???
This is all based on the insane old idea that if one pill is good for you 
then 10 will be better.


Even my famous attraction to Manna ( known as properly tree-ripened 
mangoes) will call a halt after the third one.  Two if big ones.


We were designed very carefully by our Designer to stop us doing stupid 
things, but we seem to have got past the built-in governors like pain, 
fatigue and rotten taste, that told us we were doing something dumb and we 
override them until they kick out the safety valve. We get really sick.


There is always divine retribution or reward - for everything we 
do  :-)


Cheers,
Himagain




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Re: CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and laetrile

[Sally Khanna]

Betsy,
 
You might try Neem powder.  It's anti-fungal.
 
Sally

Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks Jim for your reply. I will do the research.
Pardon my typos. I meant to say what for when and it
for is . I knew that it was closely related to
syphilis and was sure that it was a bacteria. So much
more to know as they keep doing research. I have a
question for anyone that can answer.
For scalp infections that are fungal related, would
putting cs directly on the scalp help? The only
treatment is an oral antifungal for 6 weeks.I could
not tolerate this as I am already ill and medications
make me sick. I have tried tea tree oil to no avail.
Nizerol shampoo has helped somewhat but does not cure
this and I have been losing hair.
I wanted to comment on laetrile-isnt this apricot seed
derivitive? I know that this was used as a cancer
treatment (alternative) years ago but I had not heard
much about it lately. Last week I saw apricot seeds in
a local health food store and it said to be used with
caution. I was wondering if anyone has ever used them
or purchased them at a health food store. I have been
in many health food stores and have never seen them
before. I was also wondering why they are to be used
with caution. 

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Re: CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and laetrile

[cliff hume]

Apricot kernels have been seized from all of the health food stores in Canada 
and the USA, because when used properly with an adequate diet, they have been 
shown to stop and reverse many cancers.

The same thing that is in apricot kernels is also in apple seeds, millet and 
many other foods, especially that of seeds.

You must not eat many of the foods known to cure cancer or other problems - if 
it is going to put the big pharms out of business or stopping governments from 
running our lives as if we were cattle or sheep.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sally Khanna 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and 
laetrile


  Betsy,

  You might try Neem powder.  It's anti-fungal.

  Sally

  Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks Jim for your reply. I will do the research.
Pardon my typos. I meant to say what for when and it
for is . I knew that it was closely related to
syphilis and was sure that it was a bacteria. So much
more to know as they keep doing research. I have a
question for anyone that can answer.
For scalp infections that are fungal related, would
putting cs directly on the scalp help? The only
treatment is an oral antifungal for 6 weeks.I could
not tolerate this as I am already ill and medications
make me sick. I have tried tea tree oil to no avail.
Nizerol shampoo has helped somewhat but does not cure
this and I have been losing hair.
I wanted to comment on laetrile-isnt this apricot seed
derivitive? I know that this was used as a cancer
treatment (alternative) years ago but I had not heard
much about it lately. Last week I saw apr! icot seeds in
a local health food store and it said to be used with
caution. I was wondering if anyone has ever used them
or purchased them at a health food store. I have been
in many health food stores and have never seen them
before. I was also wondering why they are to be used
with caution. 

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RE: CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and laetrile

[David W Kenney]

Years ago we had many bird deaths due to eating apricot kernels.  This was
only after a frost.

They contain amygdalin which is converted to cyanide and an aldehyde..

Fortunately, the master planner included an enzyme in some types of cancer
cells that can break the amydalin down to its component parts.which works to
kill off the cancer cells.  Normal cells do nothing.

 

 

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From: cliff hume [mailto:ch...@shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and
laetrile

 

Apricot kernels have been seized from all of the health food stores in
Canada and the USA, because when used properly with an adequate diet, they
have been shown to stop and reverse many cancers.

 

The same thing that is in apricot kernels is also in apple seeds, millet and
many other foods, especially that of seeds.

 

You must not eat many of the foods known to cure cancer or other problems -
if it is going to put the big pharms out of business or stopping governments
from running our lives as if we were cattle or sheep.

- Original Message - 

From: Sally Khanna mailto:khann...@yahoo.com  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:32 AM

Subject: Re: CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and
laetrile

 

Betsy,

 

You might try Neem powder.  It's anti-fungal.

 

Sally

Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com wrote:

Thanks Jim for your reply. I will do the research.
Pardon my typos. I meant to say what for when and it
for is . I knew that it was closely related to
syphilis and was sure that it was a bacteria. So much
more to know as they keep doing research. I have a
question for anyone that can answer.
For scalp infections that are fungal related, would
putting cs directly on the scalp help? The only
treatment is an oral antifungal for 6 weeks.I could
not tolerate this as I am already ill and medications
make me sick. I have tried tea tree oil to no avail.
Nizerol shampoo has helped somewhat but does not cure
this and I have been losing hair.
I wanted to comment on laetrile-isnt this apricot seed
derivitive? I know that this was used as a cancer
treatment (alternative) years ago but I had not heard
much about it lately. Last week I saw apr! icot seeds in
a local health food store and it said to be used with
caution. I was wondering if anyone has ever used them
or purchased them at a health food store. I have been
in many health food stores and have never seen them
before. I was also wondering why they are to be used
with caution. 

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CSmycoplasma to jim and question about cs for scalp fungus and laetrile

[Betsy Coffey]

Thanks Jim for your reply. I will do the research.
Pardon my typos. I meant to say what for when and it
for is . I knew that it was closely related to
syphilis and was sure that it was a bacteria. So much
more to know as they keep doing research. I have a
question for anyone that can answer.
For scalp infections that are fungal related, would
putting cs directly on the scalp help? The only
treatment is an oral antifungal for 6 weeks.I could
not tolerate this as I am already ill and medications
make me sick. I have tried tea tree oil to no avail.
Nizerol shampoo has helped somewhat but does not cure
this and I have been losing hair.
I wanted to comment on laetrile-isnt this apricot seed
derivitive? I know that this was used as a cancer
treatment (alternative) years ago but I had not heard
much about it lately. Last week I saw apricot seeds in
a local health food store and it said to be used with
caution. I was wondering if anyone has ever used them
or purchased them at a health food store. I have been
in many health food stores and have never seen them
before. I was also wondering why they are to be used
with caution. 

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CSmycoplasma

[Himagain]

Hi folks,
Here is an interesting if scary article about mycoplasmoids.
http://tinyurl.com/4h8b9
But a better starting point if you want to understand a far more reasonable 
view of pathology is here:
http://fablor.com/matrixide/  the beginnings of a complete Course 
understanding the Disease Industry.

Then come back here to the Silver OFF TOPIC list to discuss it. :-)

Himagain


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Re: CSMycoplasma infection/homeopath

[Sandy . Green]

silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
I thought that mycoplasmas could only be detected with PCR based tests. Not 
many labs can do them. I have been fighting m. fermentens for years with CS. TJ.


There is a gifted homeopath in Toronto, Canada, who diagnoses all the various 
mycoplasma infections. She was able to obtain all the strains of mycoplasma and 
used them to formulate the remedies.  She treats them homeopathically and with 
colloidal silver.  She has terrific results and one can see the reduction in 
the  count with her testing device.  She is a friend of mine and also, she 
helped me tremendously when I was wrongly diagnosed with MS.  She tested me for 
5 different strains of Mycoplasma and told me that at the end of treatment, my 
neurologist would renege on the MS  diagnosis.  THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.  
He (top MS specialist in Toronto) told me that the diagnosis was incorrect and 
then it must have been faulty testing.  I almost fell over when he said that.

Sandy



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RE: CSMycoplasma infection/homeopath

[Yogiboy]

Go figure..typical arrogance and ignorance.
 
-Original Message-
From: Sandy . Green [mailto:moldovansa...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMycoplasma infection/homeopath
 


silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: 
I thought that mycoplasmas could only be detected with PCR based tests.
Not many labs can do them. I have been fighting m. fermentens for years
with CS. TJ.


There is a gifted homeopath in Toronto, Canada, who diagnoses all the
various mycoplasma infections. She was able to obtain all the strains of
mycoplasma and used them to formulate the remedies.  She treats them
homeopathically and with colloidal silver.  She has terrific results and
one can see the reduction in the  count with her testing device.  She is
a friend of mine and also, she helped me tremendously when I was wrongly
diagnosed with MS.  She tested me for 5 different strains of Mycoplasma
and told me that at the end of treatment, my neurologist would renege on
the MS  diagnosis.  THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.  He (top MS
specialist in Toronto) told me that the diagnosis was incorrect and then
it must have been faulty testing.  I almos! t fell over when he said
that.
Sandy
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[Jonathan B. Britten]

Sandy,

Would you elaborate about the diagnostic method?

JBB


On Thursday, Feb 3, 2005, at 00:07 Asia/Tokyo, Sandy . Green wrote:




silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:

I thought that mycoplasmas could only be detected with PCR based 
tests. Not many labs can do them. I have been fighting m. fermentens 
for years with CS. TJ.



There is a gifted homeopath in Toronto, Canada, who diagnoses all the 
various mycoplasma infections. She was able to obtain all the strains 
of mycoplasma and used them to formulate the remedies.  She treats 
them homeopathically and with colloidal silver.  She has terrific 
results and one can see the reduction in the  count with her testing 
device.  She is a friend of mine and also, she helped me tremendously 
when I was wrongly diagnosed with MS.  She tested me for 5 different 
strains of Mycoplasma and told me that at the end of treatment, my 
neurologist would renege on the MS  diagnosis.  THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT 
HAPPENED.  He (top MS specialist in Toronto) told me that the 
diagnosis was incorrect and then it must have been faulty testing.  I 
almos! t fell over when he said that.


Sandy




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Re: CSMycoplasma infection

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning TJ,

That is an awesome page in many respects.  I had a problem finding the 
article.  There must be 1000 entries on that one long page.


There is a great story on mycoplasmas on  www.rense.com  halfway down the 
page--  Molecular Terrorism by Mycoplasma  by Gary Tunsky .


So, ... here is the direct link.
http://www.rense.com/general62/molecularterrorism.htm

This should save some time and allow a few impatient people to read the 
article.


Wayne




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RE: CSMycoplasma infection

[Yogiboy]

Afternoon everyone,

I managed to sift through the barrage of articles as well and did manage
to find it.. took some time with some perseverance. :0)

Thanks

Ernie

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Morning TJ,

That is an awesome page in many respects.  I had a problem finding the 
article.  There must be 1000 entries on that one long page.

There is a great story on mycoplasmas on  www.rense.com  halfway down
the 
page--  Molecular Terrorism by Mycoplasma  by Gary Tunsky .

So, ... here is the direct link.
http://www.rense.com/general62/molecularterrorism.htm

This should save some time and allow a few impatient people to read the 
article.

Wayne




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RE: CSMycoplasma infection

[Jim Holmes]

Nebulize CS with 10% DMSO  by volume and drive the aerosol with O2. 

-Original Message-
From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net [mailto:noblemet...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMycoplasma infection

I thought that mycoplasmas could only be detected with PCR based tests. Not
many labs can do them.   I have been fighting m. fermentens for years with
CS.  TJ.
 
 From: Ole Alstrup alst...@yahoo.com
 Date: 2005/01/28 Fri PM 01:09:52 EST
 To: Colloidal Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSMycoplasma infection
 
 A week ago I found out a friend had been sick with symptoms of whooping
cough for about a month. I had no Mesosilver left, so I got hold of some
standard 10ppm ionic CS and asked him to take 3 tablespoons a day. After
some 3-4 days he felt no difference. A few days ago he learned from his
doctor that the lab analysis had revealed he did not have whooping cough,
but instead a severe mycoplasma infection of the lungs. Now he is on some
specified antibiotic, but keeps taking the 10ppm CS.  I wonder why the CS
had no effect? Are larger/stronger doses of CS necessary to beat this? Would
he have to nebulize it? Btw, is the oral CS contraindicated while he is
taking the antibiotic?
  
 Thanks,
  
 - Ole Alstrup
 
   
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Re: CSMycoplasma infection

[Himagain]

Hi there,
that article is actually 
here:  http://www.rense.com/general62/molecularterrorism.htm


At 02:42 PM 01/02/05, you wrote:


There is a great story on mycoplasmas on  www.rense.com  halfway down the 
page--  Molecular Terrorism by Mycoplasma  by Gary Tunsky . I consulted 
Garth Nicholson in 1995 and was put on the doxycline protocol for 6 
months. It did not work completely. I used much CS and autouropathy with 
some success- along with potent vitamins and minerals.  My PCR test was 
positive for m. fermentens.  TJ



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CSMycoplasma infection vs. Synthetic Prions

[Jonathan B. Britten]

How about synthetic infectious prions?   They exist.  They work and 
induce disease.


http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/8231/8231notw4.html

JBB


On Wednesday, Feb 2, 2005, at 12:28 Asia/Tokyo, Himagain wrote:


Hi there,
that article is actually here:  
http://www.rense.com/general62/molecularterrorism.htm


At 02:42 PM 01/02/05, you wrote:


There is a great story on mycoplasmas on  www.rense.com  halfway down 
the page--  Molecular Terrorism by Mycoplasma  by Gary Tunsky . I 
consulted Garth Nicholson in 1995 and was put on the doxycline 
protocol for 6 months. It did not work completely. I used much CS and 
autouropathy with some success- along with potent vitamins and 
minerals.  My PCR test was positive for m. fermentens.  TJ



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Re: CSMycoplasma infection

[noblemetals]

I thought that mycoplasmas could only be detected with PCR based tests. Not 
many labs can do them.   I have been fighting m. fermentens for years with CS.  
TJ.
 
 From: Ole Alstrup alst...@yahoo.com
 Date: 2005/01/28 Fri PM 01:09:52 EST
 To: Colloidal Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSMycoplasma infection
 
 A week ago I found out a friend had been sick with symptoms of whooping cough 
 for about a month. I had no Mesosilver left, so I got hold of some standard 
 10ppm ionic CS and asked him to take 3 tablespoons a day. After some 3-4 days 
 he felt no difference. A few days ago he learned from his doctor that the lab 
 analysis had revealed he did not have whooping cough, but instead a severe 
 mycoplasma infection of the lungs. Now he is on some specified antibiotic, 
 but keeps taking the 10ppm CS.  I wonder why the CS had no effect? Are 
 larger/stronger doses of CS necessary to beat this? Would he have to nebulize 
 it? Btw, is the oral CS contraindicated while he is taking the antibiotic?
  
 Thanks,
  
 - Ole Alstrup
 
   
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Re: CSMycoplasma infection

[noblemetals]

There is a great story on mycoplasmas on  www.rense.com  halfway down the 
page--  Molecular Terrorism by Mycoplasma  by Gary Tunsky . I consulted Garth 
Nicholson in 1995 and was put on the doxycline protocol for 6 months. It did 
not work completely. I used much CS and autouropathy with some success- along 
with potent vitamins and minerals.  My PCR test was positive for m. fermentens. 
 TJ



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Re: CSMycoplasma infection

[Ode Coyote]

 3 tablespoons a day of 10 PPM diluted into a whole body of blood is almost zilch...maybe enough to make a difference along with the immune system when preventing the 'establishment' of a microbe colony and maybe enough to limit the progress of a colony to some degree letting the immune system catch up...maybe, but in order for a colony to be destroyed, the kill rate has to be higher, by whatever means, than the replication rate.
If the immune system isn't helping
3 tbs a day inhaled might have done something. [or 10 times that]
Add a quart a day of 10 PPM orally and see if anything happens.
If all that along with or without the antibiotics works, who cares what part did the most?

Ode

At 06:09 PM 1/28/2005 +, you wrote: 

A week ago I found out a friend had been sick with symptoms of whooping cough for about a month. I had no Mesosilver left, so I got hold of some standard 10ppm ionic CS and asked him to take 3 tablespoons a day. After some 3-4 days he felt no difference. A few days ago he learned from his doctor that the lab analysis had revealed he did not have whooping cough, but instead a severe mycoplasma infection of the lungs. Now he is on some specified antibiotic, but keeps taking the 10ppm CS.  I wonder why the CS had no effect? Are larger/stronger doses of CS necessary to beat this? Would he have to nebulize it? Btw, is the oral CS contraindicated while he is taking the antibiotic?


Thanks,


- Ole Alstrup



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CSMycoplasma infection

[Ole Alstrup]

A week ago I found out a friend had been sick with symptoms of whooping cough 
for about a month. I had no Mesosilver left, so I got hold of some standard 
10ppm ionic CS and asked him to take 3 tablespoons a day. After some 3-4 days 
he felt no difference. A few days ago he learned from his doctor that the lab 
analysis had revealed he did not have whooping cough, but instead a severe 
mycoplasma infection of the lungs. Now he is on some specified antibiotic, but 
keeps taking the 10ppm CS.  I wonder why the CS had no effect? Are 
larger/stronger doses of CS necessary to beat this? Would he have to nebulize 
it? Btw, is the oral CS contraindicated while he is taking the antibiotic?
 
Thanks,
 
- Ole Alstrup


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Re: CSMycoplasma infection

[scl...@netzero.com]

 I find that taking CS orally only helps a little when you are a fighting a 
lung infection UNLESS you nebulize it. CS only works where it can reach. Taking 
it orally doesn't hit the bronchioles much so nebulizing is always the best 
protocol for lung infections. I use a little DMSO mixed in to help the CS 
penetrate the infection. Nebulizing has spared me several bouts with lung 
problems this year already. I typically was getting bronchitis/pneumonia every 
flu season which would take me down for a month or more. Since I started 
nebulizing at the first hint of an infection they don't take me down anymore. I 
won the battle.

Steve


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Re: CSMycoplasma infection

[sol]

In my opinion, a far larger oral dose of 10 ppm CS would be required to 
beat this. I'd also be neublizing as frequently as possible with CS with 
a little DMSO in it. Just what I would do. If it was me, I'd be drinking 
about a quart of CS a day, sipped throughout the day.


One of my animals has gotten a little CS daily, been nebulized with it, 
face misted with it, and had it as ear drops, for almost 2 years now, 
and all the while he has also been on a daily Rx antibiotic. I've seen 
no problems at all, no interactions. In fact, I use the CS nebulizing 
and ear drops to boost things along when his chronic infection symptoms 
increase in spite of the daily abx. And it does the job.

sol



Ole Alstrup wrote:

A week ago I found out a friend had been sick with symptoms of 
whooping cough for about a month. I had no Mesosilver left, so I got 
hold of some standard 10ppm ionic CS and asked him to take 3 
tablespoons a day. After some 3-4 days he felt no difference. A few 
days ago he learned from his doctor that the lab analysis had revealed 
he did not have whooping cough, but instead a severe mycoplasma 
infection of the lungs. Now he is on some specified antibiotic, but 
keeps taking the 10ppm CS.  I wonder why the CS had no effect? Are 
larger/stronger doses of CS necessary to beat this? Would he have to 
nebulize it? Btw, is the oral CS contraindicated while he is taking 
the antibiotic?
 




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RE: CSmycoplasma fermentans

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Contact Dr. Bart A. Flick at Argentum Research; he has done a great deal of
testing of CS against bacteria.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 8:37 AM
To: colloidal silver
Subject: CSmycoplasma fermentans

i am interested to know of any testimonials research evidence etc., of
colloidal silver being used to kill off 'fermentans'.
as a 23 year sufferer of CFS any help would be appreciated

martin watson


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CSmycoplasma fermentans

[martin watson]

i am interested to know of any testimonials research evidence etc., of
colloidal silver being used to kill off 'fermentans'.
as a 23 year sufferer of CFS any help would be appreciated

martin watson


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