Re: Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account

[Luca via TBUDL]

Luca via TBUDL:

> Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL:
> 
> > Hello Luca,
> > 
> > Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 7:53:06 PM, you wrote:
> > 
> > > I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local 
> > > database. It
> > > seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different
> > > account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work.
> > 
> > Yeah, if connection with the server cannot be established, you need to 
> > operate manually 
> > it is possible copy .TBB and .TBN files of an IMAP folder 
> > as Message.TBB 
> > and Messages.TBN of a local folder - they have the same format. 
> 
> I tried something like that, but database files in my IMAP account have
> extensions .EBB and .EBN. How should I handle them?

I got it! E stands for Encrypted, right? My error was that I didn't rename
them as Messages.EBB/EBN.

It works. Messages with no body still have some header fields visible in the
header list, good. 

Maybe Message/View source (F9) should work for no body messages too? It
doesn't, at the moment. 

Is there a reason why Message/Copy to folder... doesn't work even when body is
available?

What I really miss since ever is drag and drop of whole folders between
different accounts. Migrating a folder tree to a different account with TB has
always been a pain in the ass.

Thank you.

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Re: Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account

[Luca via TBUDL]

Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL:

> Hello Luca,
> 
> Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 7:53:06 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local database. 
> > It
> > seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different
> > account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work.
> 
> Yeah, if connection with the server cannot be established, you need to 
> operate manually 
> it is possible copy .TBB and .TBN files of an IMAP folder as 
> Message.TBB 
> and Messages.TBN of a local folder - they have the same format. 

I tried something like that, but database files in my IMAP account have
extensions .EBB and .EBN. How should I handle them?

Tnx.

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Re: Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL]

Hello Luca,

Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 7:53:06 PM, you wrote:

> I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local database. It
> seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different
> account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work.

Yeah, if connection with the server cannot be established, you need to operate 
manually - it is possible copy .TBB and .TBN files of an IMAP 
folder as Message.TBB and Messages.TBN of a local folder - they have the same 
format. The only problem that could occur is absence of downloaded message body 
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Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account

[Luca via TBUDL]

I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local database. It
seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different
account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work.

I can export/import messages via unix mailboxes actually, but is there a
quicker way? 

I would like to use the database files directly with a different account, but
I don't know if that's possible.

Tnx.

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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Richard Newman]

Hello Melissa,

Saturday, April 18, 2020, 5:51:47 AM, you wrote:
MR> file.  Instantly, it went into "Not responding" mode, with the little
MR> "thinking circle" just spinning.  Endlessly, it seems.
   I assume you tried this more than once.

MR> I did run the maintenance option before creating the TBK file.
   It sounds as though you are doing it correctly. Do you have access to 
the old set-up to create a new TBK file?

MR> Some very specific help would be appreciated here.  Thanks!
Assuming you still have access to the original data. You could allow TB 
to install with it's normal default data location and then just copy everything 
from the original data location to the new data location. I believe that normal 
default data location is on the same drive of your installation of TB and is a 
sub-directory of your TB installation called something as simple as "Data." I 
happen to keep my data on another drive in d:\aBat_Data. Sorry I've had it that 
way so long that I don't remember what the default location is.
Let me know if I can be of further help.

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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Melissa Reese]

Hi Richard,

On Thursday, February 20, 2020, at 7:10:39 AM PST, you wrote:

> If you install TB in the new machine and open TB it will look for a
> TBK. 1) If you want your data in the normal default location just
> open the new install of TB without allowing it to bring over the TBK
> info or setting up any account. That will establish the default data
> directory. Then point TB to your TBK and it will bring over
> everything to the default location.

I'm trying to do this right now, and have encountered a problem.  I
wonder if I'm not quite using the correct method?

On the new computer, after installing TB, I come to the "Create New
Account" box where, in the lower left corner, there's the option to
"Restore from...".  That's when I pointed it to my freshly created TBK
file.  Instantly, it went into "Not responding" mode, with the little
"thinking circle" just spinning.  Endlessly, it seems.

Am I supposed to somehow get past this "Create new account" box and
actually open up TB without having created a "new account", *then* use
the "restore" option to point to the TBK file?

I did run the maintenance option before creating the TBK file.

Some very specific help would be appreciated here.  Thanks!


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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Tom]

Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:01:03 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Tom,

>
> This is not the editor, these are the file associaitons in Windows. In
> TB! it's under Options / Preferences / Associations; I have tickmarks
> at all of them.

> Your TB! cannot set the associations, as you do not have admin rights.
> Log in as admin into your Windows system, and then run TheBat. Or try
> "run as".

Hi Thomas,

thank you - that error message did not pop up again.

However, I am a bit confused as to the default font and font
size. Writing this now I am using Verdana  14 and this
is easy on my eyes. This is also how I had it before.
In one other account it's the same but testing it across
different accounts I am also getting Calibri 9 which is way
too small for my eyes. Under Preferences/Viewer Editor/ Profile Layout
I have Verdana 14, so why is this not working across all accounts?

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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Tom,

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 14:54:05 +1100 GMT (01-Mar-20, 10:54 +0700 GMT),
Tom wrote:

> The only minor difference I noticed is that the editor seems to be
> a bit different and trying to amend
> this to my preferences with respect to font or html I am getting an error 
> message of :

> some of the extensions/protocolls could not be associated. It is
> possible that you do not have access rights to
> do that or some software prevents you from that. It was not possible to 
> associate with:

> .eml (message files in RFC -822 format)
> . MSG
> .VCF
> Mailto:

> any suggestions?

This is not the editor, these are the file associaitons in Windows. In
TB! it's under Options / Preferences / Associations; I have tickmarks
at all of them.

Your TB! cannot set the associations, as you do not have admin rights.
Log in as admin into your Windows system, and then run TheBat. Or try
"run as".

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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Tom]

Hi everyone,

thank you very much for your assistance, I am happy to report that I am now 
working of the new pc with
the migration of TB successfully done. 
I used the backup and indeed this worked very well. All accounts/templates are 
still the same.
The only minor difference I noticed is that the editor seems to be a bit 
different and trying to amend
this to my preferences with respect to font or html I am getting an error 
message of :

some of the extensions/protocolls could not be associated. It is possible that 
you do not have access rights to
do that or some software prevents you from that. It was not possible to 
associate with:

.eml (message files in RFC -822 format)
. MSG
.VCF
Mailto:

any suggestions?

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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Tom]

Thank you everyone, very helpful.

I am still preparing my new pc and come across another
issue with TB that I need clarification. Some years ago I had
created an "Archive Folder" password protected for some very old
messages that I could not delete but did not need TB access every day.

I just checked and this folder is on a different directory as my other
folders.  I am not really sure what will happen now and if that folder
is  included in the backup file?  Given the size of 8.6gb I doubt that
it would be part of my normal tbk file (9.5 gb).
I  could manually put this folder onto the external drive but while my
current  drive  letter  is E and this shows up in the config of TB for
this folder, my new pc does not allow me to create a drive E, so my
backup/data drive will be F.

I could probably live with the archive folder now being dumped but
don't  want  this  to become an issue for my active accounts. Should I
move  this  archive  folder  temporarily back to the OS-drive together
with the other active folders under AppData\Roaming\The Bat!?

At the moment I can still access the folder and open it within the Bat
but don't know what would happen if I moved to the new pc and the
TB   looks   for  a  drive  that does not exist. Would it still appear
in the folder structure within TB, allowing me to open it and point to
the new F-drive at that point?


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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 19:45:38 -0500 GMT (21-Feb-20, 07:45 +0700 GMT),
Richard Newman via TBUDL wrote:

[...]

T>> Do you think one or the other method is safer?
>I think transferring via the TBK backup is safer and cleaner
> . . . when it works (it usually does). Running the Maintenance
> Center first should help insure this. If it doesn't work, it is
> probably because of corruptions in your files that weren't fixed by
> running Maintenance. Then Peter's method of copying the data
> directory over will work, quite probably bringing the file corruptions over.
>Remember, you still have the original data files and,
> probably/hopefully, a normal system backup of the same as insurance.

FWIW, I have used the internal back-up/restore methid several times
when moving to a new computer without any problems.

I don't run the full Maintenance but only "Delete Duplicates" and
"Compact" in order to not copy all the deleted files. I also "Empty"
and "Compact" Sent, Outbox and Trash.

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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Richard Newman via TBUDL]

Hello Tom,

T> thank you for your assistance. When you refer to the tbk file that's  the  
backup  files,  right?  
   Yes, the TBK file is the Bat backup file. To prepare for moving, I would 
first go to the Folder Maintenance Center and run everything. That will 
compress your files and to hopefully assure that everything is aligned. Then I 
would run a new full backup just to use for the transfer rather than relying on 
your existing weekly backup.

T> Will that include also my templates?
   Yes, your TBK backup should include your templates, account information, 
address book, everything. Just make sure that you have checked all the boxes 
including global for the backup.

T> Do you think one or the other method is safer?
   I think transferring via the TBK backup is safer and cleaner . . . when 
it works (it usually does). Running the Maintenance Center first should help 
insure this. If it doesn't work, it is probably because of corruptions in your 
files that weren't fixed by running Maintenance. Then Peter's method of copying 
the data directory over will work, quite probably bringing the file corruptions 
over.
   Remember, you still have the original data files and, 
probably/hopefully, a normal system backup of the same as insurance.
   
Hope this helps.   

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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Tom]

Friday, February 21, 2020, 3:10:39 AM, you wrote:

> If you install TB in the new machine and open TB it will look for a TBK.
> 1) If you want your data in the normal default location just open
> the new install of TB without allowing it to bring over the TBK info
> or setting up any account. That will establish the default data
> directory. Then point TB to your TBK and it will bring over
> everything to the default location.

Dear Richard,

thank you for your assistance. When you refer to the tbk file,
that's  the  backup  files,  right?   I  can  see  my  weekly tbk file
currently is about 9.5gb.   Just checked my schedule and for my
backups I ticked everything under options and all accounts. Will
that include also my templates?

Do you think one or the other method is safer?


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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Tom]

> Here is how I have done it: First look up the location of the "Mail
> Directory" on your current PC under Preferences/System. Then install
> TB on the new machine but don't start it yet. Or start it and don't
> configure anything but quit it. Then copy the complete "Mail
> Directory" from your old machine to the new one. That's it - if you
> haven't changed the default location of the "Mail Directory" on your old PC.

Peter,
thanks for your help.

Currently I am using the default setting pointing to my
os/drive Appdata...
I can see that both under preferences and registry.
When you mention the complete mail directory, do you
refer to the folder "The Bat!" in appData folder, ie I just copy
everything including all subfolders? That seems almost too easy.

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Re: Moving to a new pc

[Richard Newman via TBUDL]

Hello Tom,

Peter's suggestions should work just fine for you.

I keep my TB data files on a separate hard drive/partition. And have gone 
through the same exercise you are encountering. I usually do a backup in TB and 
move the files over via the backup to keep things in sync.

If you install TB in the new machine and open TB it will look for a TBK. 
1) If you want your data in the normal default location just open the new 
install of TB without allowing it to bring over the TBK info or setting up any 
account. That will establish the default data directory. Then point TB to your 
TBK and it will bring over everything to the default location.
2) If you want you data in another location, give TB that location during 
set-up or go back into the installed TB and change the mail directory (under 
Options, Preferences, System) to the location you want. Then have TB import 
your TBK file.

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Moving to a new pc

[Tom]

Hello Everyone,

I would like to refresh my memory and hope for some guidance.

I  have  been  using  TB  for  many  years  and have quite a number of
accounts and about 100K of emails spread across these.
It's time for me to again move to a new pc and I forgot what the best
procedure for this is.

In  the  past  I had my mail stored on a separate drive from my OS but
during  the  last move I decided not to do that in the future. I image
my  main  drive  and  having  my emails on the OS drive in the default
location %APPDATA%\The Bat!\ seems easier.

So  how would I best have everything working as quickly as possible on
the  new  pc  as  my  current set. I do have the installation file and
keys. Do I need to recreate all the accounts?
Strangely enough my Help button in the program does not do anything, not sure 
why?
I  know there is a backup and restore function and I have done backups
faithfully  but can't remember if I ever used the restore function and
if there are any tricks to pay attention to?

I also have heaps of templates that I would like to keep.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
  

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Re[2]: Moving TB! and also getting a legacy copy download?

[Chris Wilson]

Hello MFPA,

I'll experiment, thanks for the reply and ideas! :)

M> Hi


M> On Tuesday 27 August 2019 at 6:29:59 PM, in
M> , Chris Wilson wrote:-

>> I
>> can't get back my Folder View modes and my Colour
>> Groups, would anyone
>> know  which  files I need to grab from the old
>> installation to copy to
>> the  new  one?  

M> My Colour Groups seem to be defined in "COLORS.INI" in my mail folder.
M> And I couldn't swear to it but the View Modes might be in "CONFIG.CDB"









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Re: Moving TB! and also getting a legacy copy download?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 27 August 2019 at 6:29:59 PM, in
, Chris Wilson wrote:-

> I
> can't get back my Folder View modes and my Colour
> Groups, would anyone
> know  which  files I need to grab from the old
> installation to copy to
> the  new  one?  

My Colour Groups seem to be defined in "COLORS.INI" in my mail folder.
And I couldn't swear to it but the View Modes might be in "CONFIG.CDB"


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Re[2]: Moving TB! and also getting a legacy copy download?

[Chris Wilson]

Hello MAU,

On Tuesday, August 27, 2019,  you wrote:

M> Hello Chris,

>> I  have  managed  to find and download v 5.8.8 Home edition, if I load
>> that and overwrite the bat.exe file with the one from my current 5.8.10
>> will  that  upgrade  5.8.8  to  my  current 5.8.10 version?

M> I  am  quite  sure  it  will. v5.8.8 is a (legacy) release (.msi file)
M> while 5.8.10 is not (does not appear in the list at Ritlabs.com). So, I
M> assume  it was a "beta release" (.exe file, actually a .rar one) and it
M> can be used to overwrite 5.8.8.




This  does  indeed  work  fine,  but I have two fairly minor issues. I
can't get back my Folder View modes and my Colour Groups, would anyone
know  which  files I need to grab from the old installation to copy to
the  new  one?  I  am  guessing  they  are  not in the Mail folder and
subfolders  as  I  copied  them  direct onto my D: Drive and pointed a
fresh  install  f  v5.8.8  onto my C: Drive, pointing it at the copied
MAIL  and  sub  folders  on  D:  So maybe some files from the old root
folders  need  copying?  Recreating  these  two  settings is proving a
nightmare! Thanks for the help :)



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Re: Moving TB! and also getting a legacy copy download?

[MAU]

Hello Chris,

> I  have  managed  to find and download v 5.8.8 Home edition, if I load
> that and overwrite the bat.exe file with the one from my current 5.8.10
> will  that  upgrade  5.8.8  to  my  current 5.8.10 version?

I  am  quite  sure  it  will. v5.8.8 is a (legacy) release (.msi file)
while 5.8.10 is not (does not appear in the list at Ritlabs.com). So, I
assume  it was a "beta release" (.exe file, actually a .rar one) and it
can be used to overwrite 5.8.8.

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Re: Moving messages

[Richard Newman via TBUDL]

Hello Dwight,

Wednesday, July 24, 2019, 2:23:54 PM, you wrote:
DC> I  have  accidently  deleted  a number of messages. I don't seem to be
DC> able  to  move  them back from my trash folder. Feeling stupid, I need
1) Mark them in the trash folder.
2) Control + V will bring up "Move to"
3) Choose destination.

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Re: Moving messages

[MAU]

Hello Dwight,

> I  have  accidently  deleted  a number of messages. I don't seem to be
> able  to  move  them back from my trash folder. Feeling stupid, I need
> advice. 

I  assume  it  will  not work with IMAP accounts, which you seem to be
using.  But  with  POP,  all  you  have to do is on 'Folder' top menu,
select  "Browse Deleted Messages". All "deleted" (marked for deletion)
messages  will  appear  striked-through,  which  you  can  select  and
'Undelete'  from  context menu. But, as I say, I don't think this will
work for IMAP, sorry.

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Re: Moving messages

[Paul Van Noord]

7/24/2019  2:27 PM

Hi Dwight,

On 7/24/2019 Dwight Corrin wrote:

DC> I  have  accidently  deleted  a number of messages. I don't seem to be
DC> able  to  move  them back from my trash folder. Feeling stupid, I need
DC> advice. 

DC> --

DC> Dwight A. Corrin
DC> 316.207.6581
DC> dcorrin at fastmail.fm

Drag and Drop or copy (Ctrl C) works here.

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Moving messages

[Dwight Corrin]

I  have  accidently  deleted  a number of messages. I don't seem to be
able  to  move  them back from my trash folder. Feeling stupid, I need
advice. 

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Re: Moving IMAP servers

[Lore Galore]

On 3/15/2018 12:57 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote:
> Hello Tbudl,
>
>   I need to change my email accounts from one provider to another. They are 
> IMAP 
> and I don't want to lose the email in those accounts. Any suggestions.
>
> If I change the existing IMAP account in The Bat to point to the new servers 
> will the email in that account disappear because there is no mail on the new 
> server to sync, or will the local mail I have sync up to the new server.
>
> What if I back my local account up, rename that account, create a new account 
> with the same name and then restore the backup work?
>
> Help???
>
Stuart,

I think the easiest way to do this is to have both IMAP accounts set up
in The Bat!, and then copy or move the emails from one account to the other.

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Moving IMAP servers

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Tbudl,

  I need to change my email accounts from one provider to another. They are 
IMAP 
and I don't want to lose the email in those accounts. Any suggestions.

If I change the existing IMAP account in The Bat to point to the new servers 
will the email in that account disappear because there is no mail on the new 
server to sync, or will the local mail I have sync up to the new server.

What if I back my local account up, rename that account, create a new account 
with the same name and then restore the backup work?

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Moving OLD account properties to NEW TB! install

[Richie G]

Hello Bat Folk,

Many years ago I used TB! (2.12*) and loved it, then [stuff happened]
and I find myself now needing TB! more than ever.

I have the latest ver now installed (7.4.16 - trial mode)
I also have my full old install and a full backup of it.
Let's call this account:
 o...@reallyold.net

I'd like my new install operate just the way I had 2.12 operating.

A major part of what I'm looking for are all the rules (templates?)
that used to auto-populate things like the REPLY-FROM field to always
automatically populate with the email address that the original email
was sent to me at, signatures based on from FROM addresses, etc.
I cannot even remember all the customizations I grew to need!

So, How do I restore from the old backup
http://mudshark.com/Image1.jpg

so that my old 2.12 machinations and environment transpose to the new
account, let's call it:
 new-acco...@newserver.com

Thanks, all

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Re: Moving The Bat!

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 9 October 2016 at 4:42:06 PM, in
<mid:1427561600.20161009084...@dakotacom.net>, Mike Greenbaum wrote:-


> I will be moving to another new Windows 7 machine which will
> support 64-bit (actually, the old computer supports 64-bit--not
> sure why I'm using the 32-bit).

Probably just inertia. Unless you use any plugins (TB!'s download page
says "The 64-bit version of The Bat! does not accept 32-bit plugins".)



> I would assume I'd download the latest version of The Bat! -- or
> can I get the same version--which would be best to do?

If you are like me at deleting files, you may still have the 
installation file you downloaded for your current version.

The latest version (7.3.6) will have some bug fixes and a may have some
additional features, but will not accept your v6.x licence. If you
look at "Help | About" it might tell you what version your current
licence covers you until.  A licence that covers 6.4.x will be good to
either the last 6.x.x version (6.8.8?) or the last 7.0.x version
(7.0.0.56?), depending on when you bought the v6 licence [0]. 

At the bottom of the TB! download page is a link to "Archived versions
of The Bat!"[1].


[0] <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#policy>

[1] <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive_version.php>


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Re: Moving The Bat!

[Rick]

>> I will be moving to another new Windows 7 machine which will
>> support 64-bit (actually, the old computer supports 64-bit--not sure why I'm 
>> using the 32-bit).

>> I have a current backup named BatBackup2.tbk which is stored off-site.

>> Since I'm a bit of a dunce at this, can someone let me know where I
>> can find instructions about moving everything to a new machine?

A wise man would zip up the entire mail folder and put it somewhere (Disk, 
dropbox etc) just in case



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Re: Moving The Bat!

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Mike,

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 08:42:06 -0700 GMT (09-Oct-16, 22:42 +0700 GMT),
Mike Greenbaum wrote:

> In the next week or so, I will be replacing the computer on which The Bat! is 
> located.

> I'm a registered user of 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) currently on a Windows 7 machine.

> I will be moving to another new Windows 7 machine which will
> support 64-bit (actually, the old computer supports 64-bit--not sure why I'm 
> using the 32-bit).

> I have a current backup named BatBackup2.tbk which is stored off-site.

> Since I'm a bit of a dunce at this, can someone let me know where I
> can find instructions about moving everything to a new machine?

> I would assume I'd download the latest version of The Bat! -- or
> can I get the same version--which would be best to do?

> Can I then simply select Restore from the Tools menu and everything will be 
> back to normal?

> Or is that making things too simple?

1.) Make a backup with your existing TB! installation.
2.) Copy that backup (*.tbk file) to the new machine.
3.) Download TB! onto thte new machine.
4.) when your installation starts, it will ask you whether you want to
restore from a backup.

It is that simple indeed. I have done thgat a couple of times. There
are some settings that will not be restored; so minor that I don't
remember which.

I have always used the same version on the new machine. I don't know
whether it will work with another version (64 instead of 32), others
will chip in.

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Moving The Bat!

[Mike Greenbaum]

In the next week or so, I will be replacing the computer on which The Bat! is 
located.

I'm a registered user of 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) currently on a Windows 7 machine.

I will be moving to another new Windows 7 machine which will support 64-bit 
(actually, the old computer supports 64-bit--not sure why I'm using the 32-bit).

I have a current backup named BatBackup2.tbk which is stored off-site.

Since I'm a bit of a dunce at this, can someone let me know where I can find 
instructions about moving everything to a new machine?

I would assume I'd download the latest version of The Bat! -- or can I get the 
same version--which would be best to do?

Can I then simply select Restore from the Tools menu and everything will be 
back to normal?

Or is that making things too simple?

Thanks.

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Re: Moving licence to new computer

[Forums]

  Thanks  for your help on this. I have lost your reply whilst sorting
 out this new m/c.

 What  I  was really asking was whether the licence had to be reset to
 the new m/c. I have found that this was not needed, just as you said,
 copy  the  files  across. I did have to register the block code again
 and that was fine.

 David
 
Thursday, February 18, 2016, 4:26:48 PM, you wrote:
 
 F> I am change to an new computer. Can someone let me know how I can change 
the licence over please

F> Regards

F> David


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Re: Moving licence to new computer

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Peter,

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:31:57 +0100 GMT (19-Feb-16, 02:31 +0700 GMT),
Peter Hampf wrote:

> Good evening David,

> on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:26:48 + GMT your local time you wrote:

F>> I am change to an new computer. Can someone let me know how I can change 
the licence over please

> the steps are simple. This is how I do it (there may be other solutions).

[...]

This is how I do it:

1.) Make a back-up of TB! on the existing computer. This will generate a
.tbk file. Copy this file to the new computer.

2.) Install TB! on the new computer. The installer will ask you
whether you want to isntall from a back-up, click "yes" and point to
the .tbk file.

3.) If TB! opens and shows "unregistered", find the mail with the
licence and open it.

4.) If the registration code is not automatically found, go to Help /
Enter Registratin Code, and TB! will import it automatically from the
opened mail.

Note: I am not sure anymore whether step 4 is necessary, or whether
the code will already be imported from the back-up file. Before that
step, you can check under Help / About whether the code has been
imported.

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Moving licence to new computer

[Forums]

I am change to an new computer. Can someone let me know how I can change the 
licence over please

Regards

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Re: Moving from Win7 to Win8.1

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Cafe,

On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:39:11 -0700 GMT (13-Apr-15, 08:39 +0700 GMT),
Cafe Noir wrote:

 Hello Susanne,

 Sunday, April 12, 2015, 5:56:35 PM, you wrote:

 Hi,

 my old laptop is at the end of its useful life, and the new one will
 be Windows 8.1.

 What's the easiest way to move TB and the database over to my new
 computer?
 Install TB on new pc, copy database over, and hope for the best? :)
 From what I've read, the registry file should also be saved and
 installed on the new pc, but I'm not sure if that should be done when
 moving to a different OS.

 Thanks for any advice!

 In  The  Bat!,  Tools-Backup.   It's a guided procedure.  I keep this in 
 Dropbox
 and also Google Drive.  I also went from Windows 7 to 8 (upgraded to 8.1).  
 In the
 new computer, download/install The Bat! and then Tools-Restore.

 Karla

I second this, as this is exactly what I did when my old Win7 laptop
died and the new one had Win8.1 - no issues restoring at all.

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Re: Moving from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Susanne,

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:35:54 -0700GMTSusanne wrote:

S Everything went okay, except my OS is listed rather oddly in my
S signature. :)

I use the following in my reply template
,- [  ]
| The Bat! %THEBATVERSION(WITHBITS) on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %-
| %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION%-
| %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION
`-

S I have one more question: how do I adjust the font of the message
S subject etc. in the list? I can never find that particular setting.

Go to Options-Preferences-Viewer/Editor-Profile Layout and choose the
Generic Profile (it's in the upper right corner). The you can set a
font face for any item.

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Moving from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1

[Susanne]

Hi,

thanks for your help with the move.
Everything went okay, except my OS is listed rather oddly in my
signature. :)

I have one more question: how do I adjust the font of the message
subject etc. in the list? I can never find that particular setting.

Thanks in advance!

  

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Re: Moving from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 17 April 2015 at 5:35:54 PM, in
mid:1291278325.20150417093...@gmail.com, Susanne wrote:


 Hi,

 thanks for your help with the move. Everything went
 okay, except my OS is listed rather oddly in my
 signature. :)

Yes, Windows 7 and Windows 8 are not actual version numbers, they
are product names, just like Windows 95 and Windows XP.



 I have one more question: how do I adjust the font of
 the message subject etc. in the list? I can never find
 that particular setting.

Something like Options | Preferences | Messages | Colour Groups and 
Font?






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Moving from Win7 to Win8.1

[Susanne]

Hi,

my old laptop is at the end of its useful life, and the new one will
be Windows 8.1.

What's the easiest way to move TB and the database over to my new
computer?
Install TB on new pc, copy database over, and hope for the best? :)
From what I've read, the registry file should also be saved and
installed on the new pc, but I'm not sure if that should be done when
moving to a different OS.

Thanks for any advice!
  

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Re: Moving from Win7 to Win8.1

[Rick]

Install TB on new pc, copy database over, and hope for the best? :)
That's what I did and I had no problems. On thing with windows 8. If the Bat 
won't launch, add an exception to the windows firewall



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Re: Moving from Win7 to Win8.1

[Cafe Noir]

Hello Susanne,

Sunday, April 12, 2015, 5:56:35 PM, you wrote:

 Hi,

 my old laptop is at the end of its useful life, and the new one will
 be Windows 8.1.

 What's the easiest way to move TB and the database over to my new
 computer?
 Install TB on new pc, copy database over, and hope for the best? :)
 From what I've read, the registry file should also be saved and
 installed on the new pc, but I'm not sure if that should be done when
 moving to a different OS.

 Thanks for any advice!
   


In  The  Bat!,  Tools-Backup.   It's a guided procedure.  I keep this in Dropbox
and also Google Drive.  I also went from Windows 7 to 8 (upgraded to 8.1).  In 
the
new computer, download/install The Bat! and then Tools-Restore.

Karla

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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Adrian Godfrey]

Thursday, September 25, 2014, 9:04:25 PM, you wrote:

 Any reason why it shouldn't be put in:

 C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!?

 It offends my Monkian sensibilities to have files to a specific
 program spread all over the place.

The  place  you  do NOT want application data (whether email client or
any other software) is in any directory created
by   Windows   itself. Ideally on a separate disk (I can do this on one
of  my  laptops,  but  the  newer ones don't have physical space for a
second hard disk unless you lose the CD/DVD drive), but at the very least
on a separate partition from the Windows partition.

As  for  %email,  it did actually point to the same place as Options,
Preferences  in The Bat. This surprised me as no matter how many times
I  set  The  Bat  as  default  mail  program,  clicking on mailto on
websites  opens  compose  message  in  Eudora (if it is running) and
starts  Eudora  if it isn't. This may happen for other people who have
more  than  one  email  client installed eg. Outlook or Thunderbird as
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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Sam Brown]

Pulling this slightly off topic...

Friday, September 26, 2014, 9:31:51 AM, Adrian wrote:

AG As  for  %email,  it did actually point to the same place as Options,
AG Preferences  in The Bat. This surprised me as no matter how many times
AG I  set  The  Bat  as  default  mail  program,  clicking on mailto on
AG websites  opens  compose  message  in  Eudora (if it is running) and
AG starts  Eudora  if it isn't. This may happen for other people who have
AG more  than  one  email  client installed eg. Outlook or Thunderbird as
AG well as The Bat.

What happens when you click a mailto link in a web browser is going to depend 
on the browser you're using. Internet Explorer will use the Windows settings 
for file/protocol associations. I think Chrome shares those settings as well. 
Firefox, however, has its own independent settings that you have to configure 
in the browser (under the Applications tab in Settings). I assume setting the 
file associations in TB! sets itself up in the Windows file associations, but I 
wouldn't necessarily trust that's working. You should manually inspect that 
list to make sure things are configured as you expect.

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Re: Moving to a new computer

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 26 September 2014 at 2:31:51 PM, in
mid:1606492634.20140926153...@ags.lu, Adrian Godfrey wrote:


 As  for  %email,  it did actually point to the same
 place as Options, Preferences  in The Bat. This
 surprised me as no matter how many times I  set  The
 Bat  as  default  mail  program,  clicking on mailto
 on websites  opens  compose  message  in  Eudora (if
 it is running) and starts  Eudora  if it isn't.

%email% is a bespoke environment variable added by The Bat!. I've not 
personally encountered another mail client that uses it.


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Moving to a new computer

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Mentors,

My wife's HP laptop is giving us trouble to the point that I've
ordered a new ASUS laptop and are awaiting its arrival.  The old HP
laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded with Win 8 or 8.1.
Not sure which.  Assuming I can even figure out how to make Win 8
work, I need to know how to move TB!  from the old HP to the new ASUS.
I searched TB's mail archive using the string moving to a new
computer and the latest entry I found was February of this year
posted by Mike Greenbaum.  The last answer to Mike's question was the
one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states that backing up TB
to a safe place, loading the installer on the new machine and then
when run, apparently the installer will ask if you want to restore
from backup.  So, the questions are these:

a) Is this the best way to achieve the move?

b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI
file.  The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest
to 5.2.  Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88?

c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8?

d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8.

e) What questions haven't I thought of?

e) Should I just cut my throat now?



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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Volker Ahrendt]

[In Reply to: »Jack S. LaRosa« · 2014-09-25 · 15:40 h (CET)]

Moin, Jack et al.!

 […] The old HP laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded
 with Win 8 or 8.1. Not sure which. […] The last answer to Mike's
 question was the one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states
 that backing up TB to a safe place, loading the installer on the new
 machine and then when run, apparently the installer will ask if you
 want to restore from backup. So, the questions are these:

 a) Is this the best way to achieve the move?

Yes, I think so, too.

 b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI
 file.  The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest
 to 5.2.  Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88?

AFAIK no.

 c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8?

Yes.

 d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8.

AFAIK yes.

 e) What questions haven't I thought of?

That the second e) must be f). ;-)

 e) Should I just cut my throat now?

Definitely not. ツ

Cheers!
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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Paul Van Noord]

9/25/2014  10:41 AM

Hi Jack,

On 9/25/2014 Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

JSL I need to know how to move TB!  from the old HP to the new ASUS.

This is how I do it:

  Copy the Email data folder (with sub-folders) to the new computer.
  Install TB from MSI and point it to this folder.
  TB sees this folder and sets up the accounts.

I have used this technique for many years. BTW, I recommend moving to
version 6. It is worth it.

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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Volker,

On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote:

VA [In Reply to: »Jack S. LaRosa« · 2014-09-25 · 15:40 h (CET)]

VA Moin, Jack et al.!

 […] The old HP laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded
 with Win 8 or 8.1. Not sure which. […] The last answer to Mike's
 question was the one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states
 that backing up TB to a safe place, loading the installer on the new
 machine and then when run, apparently the installer will ask if you
 want to restore from backup. So, the questions are these:

 a) Is this the best way to achieve the move?

VA Yes, I think so, too.

 b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI
 file.  The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest
 to 5.2.  Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88?

VA AFAIK no.

 c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8?

VA Yes.

 d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8.

VA AFAIK yes.

 e) What questions haven't I thought of?

VA That the second e) must be f). ;-)

 e) Should I just cut my throat now?

VA Definitely not. ツ

VA Cheers!
VA VA

Thank you Volker.  I wasn't sure where to place the cut my throat
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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Paul,

On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote:

PVN 9/25/2014  10:41 AM

PVN Hi Jack,

PVN On 9/25/2014 Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

JSL I need to know how to move TB!  from the old HP to the new ASUS.

PVN This is how I do it:

PVN   Copy the Email data folder (with sub-folders) to the new computer.
PVN   Install TB from MSI and point it to this folder.
PVN   TB sees this folder and sets up the accounts.

PVN I have used this technique for many years. BTW, I recommend moving to
PVN version 6. It is worth it.

Thanks for the reply Paul.  Sounds very easy but when you say email
data folder, to which specific folder are you referring?  What would
the Windows Explorer address bar show?

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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jack,

On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:42:05 -0500GMT Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

JSL Sounds very easy but when you say email
JSL data folder, to which specific folder are you referring?  What would
JSL the Windows Explorer address bar show?

Have   a  look  at   Options/Preferences/System.  You  will  find  the
directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place
you want.

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Re: Moving to a new computer

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 25 September 2014 at 4:53:57 PM, in
mid:1775113390.20140925175...@gmx.net, Feli Wilcke wrote:


 Have   a  look  at   Options/Preferences/System.  You
 will  find  the directory there. Here it is called
 F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want.  


There is also a fair chance that typing %email% in the windows
explorer address bar and hitting the enter key will find it.



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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Thursday 25 September 2014 at 4:53:57 PM, in
M mid:1775113390.20140925175...@gmx.net, Feli Wilcke wrote:


 Have   a  look  at   Options/Preferences/System.  You
 will  find  the directory there. Here it is called
 F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want.  


M There is also a fair chance that typing %email% in the
M explorer address bar and hitting the enter key will find it.

Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields:
C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!

As Feli suggested, Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The
Bat!\.  If you plug that into WinEx you get:
C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!

So, two ways of getting the information.

Thanks M.

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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Rick]

Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: 
C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! As Feli suggested, 
Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into 
WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!
That is it! But you can put it anywhere you want and browse to it in the bat



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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Feli,

On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote:

FW Hello Jack,

FW On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:42:05 -0500GMT Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

JSL Sounds very easy but when you say email
JSL data folder, to which specific folder are you referring?  What would
JSL the Windows Explorer address bar show?

FW Have   a  look  at   Options/Preferences/System.  You  will  find  the
FW directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place
FW you want.

Options/Preferences/System here yields: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\  and if
you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!

So I guess that answers my question.

Thank you Feli.

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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Rick,

On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote:

Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields:
C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\TheBat! As Feli suggested, 
Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into 
WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!
R That is it! But you can put it anywhere you want and browse to it in the bat

Any reason why it shouldn't be put in:

C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!?

It offends my Monkian sensibilities to have files to a specific
program spread all over the place.

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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Fred]

 Any reason why it shouldn't be put in:

 C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!?

Yes, it should ~not~ be put there, because user modifiable files are not
supposed to be placed in any Program Files subdirectory. (Although this was
once entirely possible in some earlier versions of Windows, this is now
verboten for security reasons.)

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Re: Moving to a new computer

[Rick]

Yes, it should ~not~ be put there, because user modifiable files are not 
supposed to be placed in any Program Files subdirectory. (Although this was 
once entirely possible in some earlier versions of Windows, this is now 
verboten for security reasons.)

It COULD go into the programdata folder ... I have mine on another drive but 
even putting it in My Documents would work. If you have any trouble, check the 
folder/file permissions. They can get you all messed up in windows 8



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Re: Problems moving mail to Windows 8.1

[Jenny Zonneveld]

Monday, December 30, 2013, 10:25:48 AM, you wrote:

Hello Tbudl,

I'm trying to move my mail to my W8.1 laptop as I want to phase out my old XP 
system. I've created a backup and copied that to the new machine, I've 
installed the latest version of The Bat! (as on the XP machine) and I am trying 
to restore all my mail accounts. I left it running all night, but to no avail, 
the Maintenance Centre simply says 'not responding'.

Is this a know 'feature'? or am I doing something wrong?


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I'm still having problems restoring my mail to my Windows 8.1 laptop. 
As Rick suggested on this list I have run The Bat! as Administrator and changed 
the permissions of the backup file concerned, but this doesn't make any 
difference. 

Does any one have any other suggestions please?

Kind regards
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Problems moving mail to Windows 8.1

[Jenny Zonneveld]

Hello Tbudl,

I'm trying to move my mail to my W8.1 laptop as I want to phase out my old XP 
system. I've created a backup and copied that to the new machine, I've 
installed the latest version of The Bat! (as on the XP machine) and I am trying 
to restore all my mail accounts. I left it running all night, but to no avail, 
the Maintenance Centre simply says 'not responding'.

Is this a know 'feature'? or am I doing something wrong?


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Re: Problems moving mail to Windows 8.1

[Rick]

I had trouble too (and this will happen every so often) Run it as administrator 
- either right click the icon on the desktop or the RT screen and you will be 
presented with that option. Once it runs that way you can run it normally after 
that ... until the next time. You can even do this from the program icon if you 
wish. If that doesn't work, check the permissions on the l folder and all it's 
sub containers and even if administrators have full access, add yourself 
specifically with full access

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Re: moving QT's from account to common templates

[monsell]

 observe there is no function to copy/paste or move

I'm surprised there is still no function to copy/paste or drag/drop. I 
believe this feature was requested in 2008, not long after the 
location for common QTs was introduced. Prior to that, the tidiest you 
could get was to store them all in one account and mark them all as 
shared.

In a thread on this list from Dec 2008/Jan 2009, MAU suggested:-

+++

many thanks mate, much appreciated
will have a go at this..

thanks again

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moving QT's from account to common templates

[monsell]

hello friends,

is there a possibility to move quick templates from account templates
to common templates and vice versa?

observe there is no function to copy/paste or move

look forward to hear

thank you

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Re: moving QT's from account to common templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 2 October 2013 at 7:47:39 AM, in
mid:30667527.20131002121...@monsell.lk, mons...@monsell.lk wrote:


 hello friends,

 is there a possibility to move quick templates from
 account templates to common templates and vice versa?

 observe there is no function to copy/paste or move

I'm surprised there is still no function to copy/paste or drag/drop. I 
believe this feature was requested in 2008, not long after the 
location for common QTs was introduced. Prior to that, the tidiest you 
could get was to store them all in one account and mark them all as 
shared.

In a thread on this list from Dec 2008/Jan 2009, MAU suggested:-

 
 Make a copy of your ACCOUNT.QTB file in Mail directory (this is the
 Common QTs) somewhere for safety. Same for the QTB file in the account
 you mention. Then *move* account's QTB to your Mail directory and start
 TB and see if it worked. If not, restore QTB files where they were.

Ian A. White reported success with that method. I think he probably 
previously had all his QTs under one account. 

I had most of my QTs under the one account, so copied that ACCOUNT.QTB
to the Mail directory. I had a small number in other accounts, and
after spending a few minutes experimenting with copying from one QTB
file to another decided my time was better spent copying the content
of my few QTs remaining in other accounts into newly-created common
QTs. I found when I had them all as common QTs and deleted my old
ACCOUNT.QTB files in the individual accounts, they came back when
re-starting The Bat! and the individual account QTs reappeared.
Leaving empty text files called ACCOUNT.QTB in their place stopped
this,. The explanation Marek Mikus was that QTs had previously been
stored in files called ACCOUNT.QTN. Experimentation showed that
presence of ACCOUNT.QTN in the absence of ACCOUNT.QTB triggered The
Bat! to convert the QTs to the new file format and generate a new
ACCOUNT.QTB.



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moving filters between common filters and account filters

[monsell]

dear friends,

please assist and advice how to move filters between account filters
and common filters.

we got 3 accounts and each account got filters not exceeding 5 but we
do have common folders of about 200 and there are about 150 common
filters set up.

many thanks

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Re: moving filters between common filters and account filters

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo monsell,

On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:52:40 +0530GMT (1-10-2013, 10:22 , where I
live), you wrote:

M please assist and advice how to move filters between account filters
M and common filters.

Select the filter you want to move
Press Ctrl C
Select the new location for the filter
Press Ctrl V
Now you've copied the filter to it's new location, because you can't
move filters between accounts. Therefore you return to the original
filter and delete it.

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Re: moving filters between common filters and account filters

[monsell]

M please assist and advice how to move filters between account filters
M and common filters.

Select the filter you want to move
Press Ctrl C
Select the new location for the filter
Press Ctrl V
Now you've copied the filter to it's new location, because you can't
move filters between accounts. Therefore you return to the original
filter and delete it.

++

appreciated mate
thank you

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Re: Moving/saving files to another directory

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Winchmore,

Thursday, October 11, 2012, 8:08:24 PM, you wrote:

W11 I really like the new directory search box that comes up when I
W11 copy/move a message to a folder, but I've encountered a problem when I
W11 have multiple folders of the same name (or the first x characters):

W11 The search will find the first occurrence of the folder name, but I
W11 don't know how to move on to the next occurrence if that's not the one
W11 I want. 

W11 Does anyone know of a way round this?

I see what you mean. I just tried to copy this message to Inbox, and
it went to one. And that's it. I don't see a way to jump to the next
Inbox.

Most folders have different names though, so this is a special case.
Room for improvement, sure, but what we have is better than before
when we had nothing of the kind.

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Moving/saving files to another directory

[Winchmore [11]]

Hello,

I really like the new directory search box that comes up when I
copy/move a message to a folder, but I've encountered a problem when I
have multiple folders of the same name (or the first x characters):

The search will find the first occurrence of the folder name, but I
don't know how to move on to the next occurrence if that's not the one
I want. 

Does anyone know of a way round this?

TIA,



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Moving messages

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Tbudl (and cross-posting to TBBETA, as that's where the
developers read - I think),

I just did my quarterly clean-up, which involves moving all company
messages from the previous quarter to an archive folder. Today, this
was about 14,000 messages with just over 2.5GB.

In previous TB! versions (up to v4) this took a long time, during which
TB! is blocked. The Moving messages dialog was up front and did not
allow me to do anything within TB!.

Today (with v5) it was different. There was no dialog and I thought
nothing was happening, but my CPU-busy dial and my Memory-in-use dial
(some Windows sidebar gadgets) said something was being done. Hm I
thought, let's give it some time. I went to other accounts within TB!
and read emails, all without problem.

At one time I saw that the newly-created archive folder now showed
almost 14,000 messages. I checked and yes, those were the messages
from Q3 that I had moved.

I very much appreciate that we can now continue working while TB! is
moving messages. At this number of message and amount of data, it does
take a few minutes, which I had to sit idle in front of the computer
in previous versions.

I think that positive things have to be said sometimes too: Well done,
Ritlabs.

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moving the bat to other folder

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hi,

I have the bat version 2.12.00 installed on a Vista 64 bit machine and want
to move it to another folder. I have already tryed to do and change all the
registry values where a folder name was in to the new folder name, but after
the move The Bat fails to start. So it is clear I have forgot something. Can
someone help or give advice?

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Re: moving the bat to other folder

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 24 October 2010 at 9:51:12 AM, in
mid:aanlktikhg+ybat4z_g4yfjhstesqk0e6g_5hm8bqp...@mail.gmail.com,
Wilfried Mestdagh wrote:


 Hi,

 I have the bat version 2.12.00 installed on a Vista 64
 bit machine and want to move it to another folder. I
 have already tryed to do and change all the registry
 values where a folder name was in to the new folder
 name, but after the move The Bat fails to start. 

Is the shortcut you are trying to start it from still pointing to the
old location?



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Re: moving the bat to other folder

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hi,

No I started the bat.exe in the new location by direct clicking on the
executable.

what I did was first export registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The
bat!, made a copy of it, changed all path values to the new path, then
import again. Are you saying this is the correct way to do?

rgds, Wilfried

2010/10/24 MFPA expires2...@ymail.com

 Hi


 On Sunday 24 October 2010 at 9:51:12 AM, in
 mid:aanlktikhg+ybat4z_g4yfjhstesqk0e6g_5hm8bqp...@mail.gmail.commid%3aaanlktikhg%2bybat4z_g4yfjhstesqk0e6g_5hm8bqp...@mail.gmail.com
 ,
 Wilfried Mestdagh wrote:


  Hi,

  I have the bat version 2.12.00 installed on a Vista 64
  bit machine and want to move it to another folder. I
  have already tryed to do and change all the registry
  values where a folder name was in to the new folder
  name, but after the move The Bat fails to start.

 Is the shortcut you are trying to start it from still pointing to the
 old location?



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Re: moving the bat to other folder

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hi,

I tryed it again and the exact error is: Exception ERegistryException in
module thebat.exe at 0005DC53. Failed to set data for ''.

rgds, Wilfried

2010/10/24 Wilfried Mestdagh wmestd...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 No I started the bat.exe in the new location by direct clicking on the
 executable.

 what I did was first export registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The
 bat!, made a copy of it, changed all path values to the new path, then
 import again. Are you saying this is the correct way to do?

 rgds, Wilfried

 2010/10/24 MFPA expires2...@ymail.com

 Hi


 On Sunday 24 October 2010 at 9:51:12 AM, in
 mid:aanlktikhg+ybat4z_g4yfjhstesqk0e6g_5hm8bqp...@mail.gmail.commid%3aaanlktikhg%2bybat4z_g4yfjhstesqk0e6g_5hm8bqp...@mail.gmail.com
 ,
 Wilfried Mestdagh wrote:


  Hi,

  I have the bat version 2.12.00 installed on a Vista 64
  bit machine and want to move it to another folder. I
  have already tryed to do and change all the registry
  values where a folder name was in to the new folder
  name, but after the move The Bat fails to start.

 Is the shortcut you are trying to start it from still pointing to the
 old location?



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Re: moving the bat to other folder

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hi,

I found the trouble. If I check 'run this program as administrator' then all
is working fine.

Strange: I checked the old copy and this was not checked. Also it is not
copied in the 'program file (x86)' folder so there should be no
restrictions.

rgds, Wilfried

2010/10/24 Wilfried Mestdagh wmestd...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 I tryed it again and the exact error is: Exception ERegistryException in
 module thebat.exe at 0005DC53. Failed to set data for ''.

 rgds, Wilfried

 2010/10/24 Wilfried Mestdagh wmestd...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 No I started the bat.exe in the new location by direct clicking on the
 executable.

 what I did was first export registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The
 bat!, made a copy of it, changed all path values to the new path, then
 import again. Are you saying this is the correct way to do?

 rgds, Wilfried

 2010/10/24 MFPA expires2...@ymail.com

 Hi


 On Sunday 24 October 2010 at 9:51:12 AM, in
 mid:aanlktikhg+ybat4z_g4yfjhstesqk0e6g_5hm8bqp...@mail.gmail.commid%3aaanlktikhg%2bybat4z_g4yfjhstesqk0e6g_5hm8bqp...@mail.gmail.com
 ,
 Wilfried Mestdagh wrote:


  Hi,

  I have the bat version 2.12.00 installed on a Vista 64
  bit machine and want to move it to another folder. I
  have already tryed to do and change all the registry
  values where a folder name was in to the new folder
  name, but after the move The Bat fails to start.

 Is the shortcut you are trying to start it from still pointing to the
 old location?



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 --
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 http://www.mestdagh.biz




 --
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Re: moving the bat to other folder

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 24 October 2010 at 12:00:18 PM, in
mid:aanlktikqbd5nbg7ruq4k_ynkkltxdmqwras+prqov...@mail.gmail.com,
Wilfried Mestdagh wrote:



 I found the trouble. If I check 'run this program as
 administrator' then all is working fine.

That's good. Having got it to run at least once, does removing that
tick prevent it from running again?



 Strange: I checked the old copy and this was not
 checked. Also it is not copied in the 'program file
 (x86)' folder so there should be no restrictions.

I can't tell you about Vista but in XP some programs only work if
you run as administrator - I never had this issue with TB!. 

And some need to be ran as administrator once in each user logon, but 
will work with ordinary user privileges after that. I also never had 
this issue with TB! (but of course the installer is run as admin...).

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Re: moving the bat to other folder

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hi,

Thanks for reply. No removing that tick prevent it from running again with
same exception error. BTW: I'm logged in as administrator on that machine.

I did not copy it (for rights reasons) to the program files folder, but a
folder where I have program not installed with an installer (to know the
difference). I have no programs in that folder that write to the registry -
maybe that is the reason.

Anyway I hope my experiance - solution can benefit others too.

Thanks again for quick reply!

best regards, Wilfried

2010/10/24 MFPA expires2...@ymail.com

 Hi


 On Sunday 24 October 2010 at 12:00:18 PM, in
 mid:aanlktikqbd5nbg7ruq4k_ynkkltxdmqwras+prqov...@mail.gmail.commid%3aaanlktikqbd5nbg7ruq4k_ynkkltxdmqwras%2bprqov...@mail.gmail.com
 ,
 Wilfried Mestdagh wrote:



  I found the trouble. If I check 'run this program as
  administrator' then all is working fine.

 That's good. Having got it to run at least once, does removing that
 tick prevent it from running again?



  Strange: I checked the old copy and this was not
  checked. Also it is not copied in the 'program file
  (x86)' folder so there should be no restrictions.

 I can't tell you about Vista but in XP some programs only work if
 you run as administrator - I never had this issue with TB!.

 And some need to be ran as administrator once in each user logon, but
 will work with ordinary user privileges after that. I also never had
 this issue with TB! (but of course the installer is run as admin...).

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Re: Mod: Top posting (was: moving the bat to other folder)

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hi Marck,

Sorry about the top posting, and I just did a reply the same way :(
I will think on this in the future!

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Moving DB and settings from Voyager 3 to Windows 7 desktop

[Scott Frederick]

Hello TBUDL,

I am currently running my mail on Voyager 3.95.06 from a USB drive. I
have a new desktop install of Windows 7 and I want to transfer all the
data and account settings to the new desktop. I am planning to upgrade
my key to V4.2 pro.

What would be the best path to do this?

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Re: Moving DB and settings from Voyager 3 to Windows 7 desktop

[tracer]

Hello Scott,

Monday, December 7, 2009, 2:57:15 AM, you wrote:

 Hello TBUDL,

 I am currently running my mail on Voyager 3.95.06 from a USB drive. I
 have a new desktop install of Windows 7 and I want to transfer all the
 data and account settings to the new desktop. I am planning to upgrade
 my key to V4.2 pro.

 What would be the best path to do this?


If I had to this I would make sure of a few things.
Make  and test out the backup so that you know before all your data is
moved  that  the bat works... no idea how much data is involved but I
know  from  personal  experience that if you have to download as in my
case again from google it takes a long time...
Also I still have 50% still missing which was in voyager backup.
Keep also in mind that if you go for latest OS the Voyager may need an
update as well to make sure it can handle the latest files...

Reminds  me,  google  and the bat donot do a proper job on downloading
again  as   dates  on  what  comes  in  is totally adjusted to current
time/date...
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Re[2]: Vista... moving data

[Pat J]

Hello Jernej,

Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 1:42:04 PM, you wrote:

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 21:27:00, PJohnson wrote:

 I have my new computer with Vista running, and TB (pro v3) on an
 external HD, and wonder how to access all my TB files and folders. V3
 doesn't run under Vista and I have downloaded a trial copy of V4 pro.
 I suspect I did all this ass-backwards. :) Help?

 AFAIK, v3 should run just fine on Vista - install it, copy the mail
 folder to your user profile, then when TB starts, tell it to use the
 folder you copied (be careful that you don't copy the folder to an
 area it can't access, which includes Program Files).

 Also, up to V4.10 (IIRC) should work with v3 registration keys.

I tried to run V3 from my external HD and it would not run... Vista
said it was not compatible. I would be content just to extract the
data-- the emails. Is there any way to do that?

Thanks!
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Vista... moving data

[PJohnson]

Hi all!

I have my new computer with Vista running, and TB (pro v3) on an
external HD, and wonder how to access all my TB files and folders. V3
doesn't run under Vista and I have downloaded a trial copy of V4 pro.
I suspect I did all this ass-backwards. :) Help?

Thanks!
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Re: Vista... moving data

[Jernej Simončič]

On Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 21:27:00, PJohnson wrote:

 I have my new computer with Vista running, and TB (pro v3) on an
 external HD, and wonder how to access all my TB files and folders. V3
 doesn't run under Vista and I have downloaded a trial copy of V4 pro.
 I suspect I did all this ass-backwards. :) Help?

AFAIK, v3 should run just fine on Vista - install it, copy the mail
folder to your user profile, then when TB starts, tell it to use the
folder you copied (be careful that you don't copy the folder to an
area it can't access, which includes Program Files).

Also, up to V4.10 (IIRC) should work with v3 registration keys.

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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[MFPA]

Hi

On Friday 9 January 2009 at 1:50:21 AM, in
mid:1039620530.20090109085...@gmail.com, tracer wrote:


 Hello MFPA,

 Friday, January 9, 2009, 7:29:38 AM, you wrote:

 Hi

 On Thursday 8 January 2009 at 10:52:04 PM, in
 mid:295980760.20090109095...@wai.com.au, Ian A.
 White wrote:

 I just checked my account folders and they QTB files
 I deleted have  not been re-created. The QT editor
 also shows all accounts as having  no QTs.

 Hmm. I just tried again and if I delete (or rename)
 the account.qtb files in the accounts, the files are
 still re-created and the QTs reappear in those
 accounts. Keeping an empty text file called
 account.qtb in the account folders does the trick but
 I am damned if I can find where the QTs are backed up.
 This is as irritating as windows file protection.

 Do a search on QTB and see if finds them...

Search (including hidden and system) only finds 3 QTB files: the one
in my Mail ditectory for the common QTs and the ones I'm trying to
delete in the account directories for the two accounts that had QTs.
They must be backed up in some file other than QTB. Maybe QTN?

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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Saturday, January 10, 2009, MFPA wrote:

 Do a search on QTB and see if finds them...

 Search (including hidden and system) only finds 3 QTB files: the one
 in my Mail ditectory for the common QTs and the ones I'm trying to
 delete in the account directories for the two accounts that had QTs.
 They must be backed up in some file other than QTB. Maybe QTN?

account.qtn is old format used for storing QTs, qtb is a new one.

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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[MFPA]

Hi

On Friday 9 January 2009 at 11:51:50 PM, in
mid:1637487727.20090110005...@ipex.cz, Marek Mikus wrote:



 account.qtn is old format used for storing QTs, qtb is
 a new one.


That was it! I deleted the QTN files as well as the QTB files and they
stay gone. So it was the QTN files that kept making the QTN files
reappear.


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Re[2]: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[tracer]

Hello MFPA,

Saturday, January 10, 2009, 6:41:37 AM, you wrote:


 Do a search on QTB and see if finds them...

 Search (including hidden and system) only finds 3 QTB files: the one
 in my Mail ditectory for the common QTs and the ones I'm trying to
 delete in the account directories for the two accounts that had QTs.
 They must be backed up in some file other than QTB. Maybe QTN?

Normally what will help, assuming the programmers don't put stuff like
that in the registry, do a search for *.* in the bat program file
directory.
Or essentially whatever program has files 'missing'
Do note that some programs have 2 places where they put files, in
Documents in settings there is another directory being used...


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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[MFPA]

Hi

On Thursday 25 December 2008 at 12:16:57 AM, in
mid:87554721.20081225111...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote:




 Thanks. That did it.


I tried doing the same now that I am aware of the common templates
location - copied my main account.qtb file to the mail directory and
found most of my QTs duplicated there. Then I re-created one that was
not on the same account in the common location and deleted them all
from their previous locations. All good but I notice the account.qtb
files are still present in the account folders, even though there are
no longer any QTs there. I find that if I delete those account.qtb
files, the next time I start TB!, they re-appear and the QTs re-appear
in their old location (as well as in the common location).

Obviously, a workaround is to leave the redundant account.qtb files
where they are but can anybody confirm or explain this behaviour?


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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[MFPA]

Hi

On Thursday 8 January 2009 at 10:52:04 PM, in
mid:295980760.20090109095...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote:


 I just checked my account folders and they QTB files I
 deleted have  not been re-created. The QT editor also
 shows all accounts as having  no QTs.


Hmm. I just tried again and if I delete (or rename) the account.qtb
files in the accounts, the files are still re-created and the QTs
reappear in those accounts. Keeping an empty text file called
account.qtb in the account folders does the trick but I am damned if I
can find where the QTs are backed up. This is as irritating as windows
file protection.

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Re[2]: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[tracer]

Hello MFPA,

Friday, January 9, 2009, 7:29:38 AM, you wrote:

 Hi

 On Thursday 8 January 2009 at 10:52:04 PM, in
 mid:295980760.20090109095...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote:


 I just checked my account folders and they QTB files I
 deleted have  not been re-created. The QT editor also
 shows all accounts as having  no QTs.


 Hmm. I just tried again and if I delete (or rename) the account.qtb
 files in the accounts, the files are still re-created and the QTs
 reappear in those accounts. Keeping an empty text file called
 account.qtb in the account folders does the trick but I am damned if I
 can find where the QTs are backed up. This is as irritating as windows
 file protection.


Do a search on QTB and see if finds them...

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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[Dierk Haasis]

On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:10:35 +0100, MAU
m...@rancho-k.com wrote:

Don't tell me, I'm just another user. Log you feature request in:

Don't take everything personal.



-- 
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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[MAU]

Hello Dierk,

Don't tell me, I'm just another user. Log you feature request in:

 Don't take everything personal.

I didn't. Although it may look like it the way I wrote it :)

 [DH² Publishing]
 www.DH2Publishing.info

Some real nice photos, I wish I could read German.

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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[tracer]

  www.DH2Publishing.info


Nice photo's but their info is a bit odd, now they can take MANY photos
result is supposed to be better??
I don't believe that at all. I have seen people who used many rolls of film
and didn't produce anything useful!

When I was in University 40 years ago, problem wasn't how many films were
used but how quick you had the desired result!! If you know what you are
doing, not many
Essentially you KNOW when to push the button.. Its a feeling, how odd it may
sound!

Language:

Considering your English,  German shouldn't be THAT much of a problem...
Its really in most cases a matter of time/Age...
If being Spanish you can produce good English, why not German???
I am from the Netherlands...



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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo koenraad,

On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:39:10 +0700GMT (27-12-2008, 13:39 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

KR I am from the Netherlands...

So am I, but unfortunately that isn't an excuse to stray off topic.

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Re[2]: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[tracer]

Hello Roelof,

Saturday, December 27, 2008, 7:47:27 PM, you wrote:

 Hallo koenraad,

 On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:39:10 +0700GMT (27-12-2008, 13:39 +0100, where
 I live), you wrote:

KR I am from the Netherlands...

 So am I, but unfortunately that isn't an excuse to stray off topic.


I have to reread the mesg I send...

OK
This what i answered to.

=
Don't tell me, I'm just another user. Log you feature request in:

 Don't take everything personal.

I didn't. Although it may look like it the way I wrote it :)

 [DH² Publishing]
 www.DH2Publishing.info

Some real nice photos, I wish I could read German.
==

Ok, I am going to shut down today as I want to find that bug they
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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo koenraad,

On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:15:54 +0700GMT (27-12-2008, 14:15 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

KR This what i answered to.

I know, but I've got to draw the line somewhere.
Beware of the trout.

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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[MFPA]

Hi

On Wednesday 24 December 2008 at 8:05:25 PM, in
mid:1062965947.20081225070...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote:



 Only because The Bat! already has a place for Common
 Templates that  was introduced after I had the
 templates created in a particular  account.


I'd not noticed that, hidden from view at the top of the account
list when I look at the QT viewer. When did that appear?




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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[MFPA]

Hi

On Friday 26 December 2008 at 9:38:16 PM, in
mid:249477951.20081227083...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote:



 It appeared about the time when QTs were HTML enabled.


QTs HTML-enabled? Whatever next! (-;

As I can probably count the number of HTML emails I send each year on
the fingers of one hand, that enhancement missed my attention too!

I imagine that was in the last 2 or 3  months?
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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[Dierk Haasis]

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:26:00 +0100, MAU
m...@rancho-k.com wrote:

You may try something, don't know if it works because I haven't tried 
it.

What we need is the rather simple - in terms of usage - capability to
d'n'd QTs.

Consider this a feature request.



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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[Peter Fjelsten]

Dierk,

On 25-12-2008 11:26, you wrote in
mid:ltn6l41creitkf6qshqh2a827489a2u...@4ax.com:
 What we need is the rather simple - in terms of usage - capability to
 d'n'd QTs.

 Consider this a feature request.

Seconded!

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Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs

[MAU]

Hello Dierk,

You may try something, don't know if it works because I haven't tried 
it.

 What we need is the rather simple - in terms of usage - capability to
 d'n'd QTs.

I'm just pointing out something Ian can try, given the current 
capabilities and limitations.

 Consider this a feature request.

Don't tell me, I'm just another user. Log you feature request in:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php

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