Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp - etc.

- KL7UW From: Josh Fiden <j...@voodoolab.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp Message-ID: <cbe8b13c-5c75-3f5b-6c74-14f64537b...@voodoolab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed If cost per QSO were a concern, no on

Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp: THREAD CLOSED

Folks, The 1500W threads were closed many hours ago due to their high volume. Please take the discussion off list for now. 73, Eric Moderator elecraft.com _..._ __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

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should probably die. Enjoy the hobby as you wish. Just know any station who worked em with less power just owned you regardless of your budget  Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mike Markowski Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:03 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The 1500

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Re "And spare me the argument that QRM would increase (if everyone had amps) ...it wouldn't, because the water level would simply rise for everyone.": A Global Warming analogy, Dave? :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 8/1/16 8:27 PM, David Gilbert wrote: An amp helps tremendously on receive if the guy

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An amp helps tremendously on receive if the guy with the amp is on the other end of the QSO from you. And if you can't hear him you aren't going to make the contact. It has been said before many times, and I'm living proof of it ... an amplifier is the most cost effective way to improve

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What an excellent idea... Wonder what that would cost me to get my power provider to do? I'd do pretty much anything to get new/larger feeder lines into my house... __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 8/1/2016 7:52 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: > I have

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14¢ per kW-hr. It'll stay there if we can keep the coal industry afloat. 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Graham Kimbell Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 4:09 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraf

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Running 240 to the shack, while not a trivial task, is not "undoable". I am doing so right now... I am putting in a sub-panel to deliver the power from the service, and am running separate circuits for 8 x 20Amp 120 V receptacles, 2 x 15 Amp 240 V receptacles, and 2 x 20 Amp 240 V re ceptacles.

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We are well past the single topic posting limit on this thread. Let's close the thread for now in the interest of relieving email overload for our other readers. 73, Eric Moderator (from wherever I may be..) elecraft.com _..._ > On Aug 1, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Ken Arck

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As those of us active in EME would say.. No s*** Ken At 04:04 PM 8/1/2016, Josh Fiden wrote: If cost per QSO were a concern, no one would ever work EME. Just sayin'. Back to waiting for this thread to die! 73, Josh W6XU On 8/1/2016 10:47 AM, Fred Moore wrote: I always wonder that some

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On Aug 1, 2016, at 2:03 PM, "N2TK, Tony" wrote: > Wayne, > It is nice you were able to write a couple poems based on your own > experience with QRP :-) > Do I detect another hobby or stress reliever? You do. My alter ego is a wannabe author. Unfortunately time is a

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If cost per QSO were a concern, no one would ever work EME. Just sayin'. Back to waiting for this thread to die! 73, Josh W6XU On 8/1/2016 10:47 AM, Fred Moore wrote: I always wonder that some of you guys "cost/QSO" is.. __

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gt; Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp I wrote an epic poem on this subject :) See: http://www.qsotoday.com/n6kr-poetry.html Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listin

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It sure does at the other end :-) On 8/1/2016 6:50 AM, Jerry Moore wrote: I don't see the point of having a large power amp. It doesn't help receive. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

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Thread hasn't closed because it's free market research from a very targeted audience. Companies pay big bucks in order to hear "the voice of the customer." > On Aug 1, 2016, at 16:12, F5vjc wrote: > > Why hasn't this thread been terminated? It's getting boring now.

[Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp

Wayne, Just to be clear my previous e-mail was referring to your poem writing ability. -- 73 Jon KG6VDW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

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, 2016 12:55 PM To: EricJ <eric_c...@hotmail.com> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp I wrote an epic poem on this subject :) See: http://www.qsotoday.com/n6kr-poetry.html Wayne N6KR On Aug 1, 2016, at 9:04 AM, EricJ <eric_c...@hotmail.c

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t; <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp Do you dare imply that UK ops may have more skill ?? LOL Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Graham Kimbell __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mail

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Do you dare imply that UK ops may have more skill ?? LOL Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Graham Kimbell __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

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@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp Jer & Fred, You're right from a certain point of view. But also consider more generally that it's about link budget; maximize gains, minimize losses. How much of each a ham can do comes down to money & motivation within lifestyl

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Why hasn't this thread been terminated? It's getting boring now. Much more interesting threads are quickly closed. There is no 1500W Amp guys. 73 F5VJC On 1 August 2016 at 21:56, EricJ wrote: > Ha ha. Yeah. Like I said, same as in life. > > Eric KE6US > > > > On

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Watching this from afar, I notice the irony - US has 1500W limit but not enough (120v) mains power to use it, whilst the UK has loads of mains power (240v at 13A) but only a 400W limit. Graham The KPA500 can be run from any decent 120VAC mains outlet as long as there aren't too many other

[Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp

Wow Wayne... who knew you had so much in you. The world is a better place with you in it. You should run for President. No, nice people don't deserve that much punishment. -- 73 Jon KG6VDW __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

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Ha ha. Yeah. Like I said, same as in life. Eric KE6US On 8/1/2016 9:54 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I wrote an epic poem on this subject :) See: http://www.qsotoday.com/n6kr-poetry.html Wayne N6KR On Aug 1, 2016, at 9:04 AM, EricJ wrote: The point is dominance.

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Jer & Fred, You're right from a certain point of view. But also consider more generally that it's about link budget; maximize gains, minimize losses. How much of each a ham can do comes down to money & motivation within lifestyle (& FCC!) constraints. 73, Mike ab3ap On 08/01/2016 01:47

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I'm with you Jer.. I always wonder that some of you guys "cost/QSO" is.. it only a hobby, not a masculinity contest.. Many times I see a 10K station and ask how often they operate.. many times the answer is I turn on at least once per month to make sure it work.. Fred On 8/1/16 9:50 AM,

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] The 1500 watt amp Hmm .. another solution would be to reduce max power to 500 W and enforce it ;-) Phil W7OX On 8/1/16 9:04 AM, EricJ wrote: > The point is dominance. If you are the strongest signal, the DX hears > you better. If you are the strongest, you hear the DX better because > ever

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Hmm .. another solution would be to reduce max power to 500 W and enforce it ;-) Phil W7OX On 8/1/16 9:04 AM, EricJ wrote: The point is dominance. If you are the strongest signal, the DX hears you better. If you are the strongest, you hear the DX better because everyone else stands by until

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I've been in way too many situations where my customers said "you need to offer this." I spent time and money making "this" available, and turned to the customers and said "here it is, it costs this much." Silence. Just sayin' -- Lynn P.S. I'm happy at 12 watts. On 8/1/2016 5:30 AM, Guy

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On Mon,8/1/2016 6:50 AM, Jerry Moore wrote: If a QRP /Low power station can make the contact but you can't then maybe you need to ask for help getting your station optimized a bit better. I don't buy this logic. I've optimized my station and have an antenna farm most hams would die for. I've

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Very nice, Wayne. On Monday, August 1, 2016, Wayne Burdick wrote: > I wrote an epic poem on this subject :) See: > > http://www.qsotoday.com/n6kr-poetry.html > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Aug 1, 2016, at 9:04 AM, EricJ > > wrote: > > >

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I wrote an epic poem on this subject :) See: http://www.qsotoday.com/n6kr-poetry.html Wayne N6KR On Aug 1, 2016, at 9:04 AM, EricJ wrote: > The point is dominance. If you are the strongest signal, the DX hears you > better. If you are the strongest, you hear the

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The point is dominance. If you are the strongest signal, the DX hears you better. If you are the strongest, you hear the DX better because everyone else stands by until you make the contact and go away. I lived among the legendary California Kilowatts when I was a DXer. Letting them in and

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: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 7:36 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp I'm with Greg. Though I am only a casual DX chaser and even more casual contester I found the KPA500 just wasn't enough

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Buy some of the "2D " blocks from Elecraft and have Front Panel Express to make the panels for you from your design. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 1, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II > wrote: > > The question of Elecraft building1500 watt amps

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: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:51 AM To: 'Guy Olinger K2AV' <k2av@gmail.com>; 'Elecraft Reflector' <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp I don't see the point of having a large power amp. It doesn't help receive. My whole Ham life I've been told to p

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The question of Elecraft building1500 watt amps has been settled, but there are those of us that can build pretty much whatever we want... and that includes me. I currently have a twin BLF188XR amp nearing completion on my lab bench, and my issue has always been making it look like the

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I don't see the point of having a large power amp. It doesn't help receive. My whole Ham life I've been told to put the money into antennas, better feedlines, and a better receiver. If you are a skilled operator then you'll make the contact if band conditions permit. Doing the math I really don't

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Perhaps with slight modifications KPA500 can become KPA1000 or even KPA1300 at a lower weight. Replace MRF151 with the Microsemi device and replace a toroidal PS with a switching power supply. Perhaps adjust firmware so that the amp works near saturation on CW for increased efficiency and perhaps

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One of the things going here is that people would have sprung for an *ELECRAFT* KPA1500 with the same reliability, compactness etc. That is to say they would have sprung for a KPA1500 made to the Wayne/Eric Elecraft standards, reliability and price points we have all come to love. The man keeps

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I'm with Greg. Though I am only a casual DX chaser and even more casual contester I found the KPA500 just wasn't enough to suit me, but I knew that going in. I only ordered the 500 as a temporary measure to hold me until my 2K-FA came in. I certainly would have gone with a 1500w Elecraft

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I wouldn't make any assumption about what Elecraft customers will do! I understand people deciding to upgrade their K3 to the K3S. What has completely mystified me is how many people upgrade the synthesizer(s) and THEN dump the rig to replace it with a nearly identical radio! I'm sure my view

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Re "Lyle did design the KSDP2 independently, and then when he presented it to Elecraft, it became a product - *and* Lyle was subsequently hired by Elecraft as their DSP designer.": An impressive job interview, that :-) And the KDSP2 remains a favorite of mine; I replaced the KAF2 with it as

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Wes, You will have to find an example beyond the KDSP2 to support that assertion. Yes, Lyle did design the KSDP2 independently, and then when he presented it to Elecraft, it became a product - *and* Lyle was subsequently hired by Elecraft as their DSP designer. All other products were

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On 7/31/2016 3:20 PM, Greg wrote: "I own a KPA500 and it is very nice; the integration with the K3 makes it a pleasure to use...but I want the capability to run full legal limit. I own several full legal limit amps but would gladly get rid of one or more for an Elecraft amp. At my age and

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ditto ditto ! ;-) 73 de NS9I On 7/31/2016 4:36 PM, Art Peters wrote: I would say, here is to itchy conditions …. 73, Art Peters, K0ACP k0...@k0acp.com On Jul 31, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: The K2 DSP is the only such case, and as noted, Lyle has been

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Before I switched to the K3, I ran Icom gear with their PW-1 amp. While the PW-1 had a few shortcomings, having a 160-6 KW amp with built-in tuner, 4 antenna outs which auto-select per band, and integration with the transceiver was pretty great. It had an internal switching power supply which

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I would say, here is to itchy conditions …. 73, Art Peters, K0ACP k0...@k0acp.com > On Jul 31, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > The K2 DSP is the only such case, and as noted, Lyle has been with us > exclusively ever since. All other Elecraft products were

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craft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp It's an economic decision for the Ham too. The KPA500 can be run from any decent 120VAC mains outlet as long as there aren't too many other loads on it. But going above that power level

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It's an economic decision for the Ham too. The KPA500 can be run from any decent 120VAC mains outlet as long as there aren't too many other loads on it. But going above that power level forces the Ham to have 240 VAC in the shack, something many of us do not normally plan for. That can be a

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The K2 DSP is the only such case, and as noted, Lyle has been with us exclusively ever since. All other Elecraft products were designed by our full-time or part-time engineering staff. We would not source someone else's QRO amp design. We would reserve the fun for ourselves :) Those

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I would even reinstall the 240V service:-) On 7/31/2016 1:20 PM, Greg wrote: It's amazing how many people offer an opinion on what the market would be for an Elecraft 1500 watt amplifier. People just know it wouldn't be successful without a clue who might or might not really be interested.

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Building a pile of cash for an amp... Would definitely prefer to hand that pile of cash to Elecraft than to any other company... __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 7/31/2016 3:20 PM, Greg wrote: > Put me on the > list to get one if/when they do. 73,

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It's amazing how many people offer an opinion on what the market would be for an Elecraft 1500 watt amplifier. People just know it wouldn't be successful without a clue who might or might not really be interested. They're right...the QRP'ers would not be interested, for one, would be very

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Apparently you don't know Elecraft's engineering process. Many "Elecraft" products were "designed by someone else", starting with the DSP in the K2. Here's what Wayne had to say about that: "A major milestone in our history was the KDSP2 option for the K2. Lyle Johnson, KK7P, became known

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obably why they are staying out of the QRO market or VHF amp market (which I dipped my toe into). 73, Ed - KL7UW *Nice opening from Alaska to PacNW on 6m last two days (my 80w worked well) From: Kevin <ksto...@ac0h.net> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp Messa

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"Some People" does not a market make. The 1KW and up amplifier market is awash with suppliers. Yaesu, Icom, SPE, Ameritron, Alpha, OM Power, Emtron or whoever owns them now, Dishtronics. To be competitive they'd have to design an amp that works with anybody's transceiver just like the KPA500

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Compared to a 500 watt amplifier, 1500 watts represents almost 5 db. If you don't know what 5 db can do when trying to make weak signal contacts you haven't done much of it. I'm not saying that Elecraft should come out with a 1500 watt amp, but amps are NOT just about being loud and

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blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Agreed, and I'd guess it was purely an economic decision. Bob AA6VB Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, July 30,

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I'm not so sure. Just the rumor of a big Elecraft amp had some people (including me) quite interested. In fact, based on some of the pictures, Elecraft had some interest in the past. Amps are not evil and I also don't think they are incompatible - technically or philosophically - with Elecraft. I

[Elecraft] The 1500 watt amp

I was heartened to see Wayne’s response to this rumor. It seems inceivable that Elecraft would offer such a product, much less one designed by someone else. Big amps are about being loud, busting pileups, . When receivers were less sensitive and sophisticated, e.g. digital filters, digital