[gentoo-user] Re: Transferring an existing install to new disk

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:51:12 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: So boot your existing Gentoo setup as usual, then follow the handbook to install on the new disk. You do not have to boot from a live CD to install Gentoo, and suitable working Linux

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Dan Wallis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The blocks regarding sys-fs/e2fsprogs, sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs, sys-libs/ss and sys-libs/com_err were discussed recently on this list. Basically you need to: emerge -f e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-libs emerge -C com_err ss e2fsprogs emerge -1 e2fsprogs I'm

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Many thanks for the other useful info I've snipped [blocks b ] x11-drivers/xf86-video-nsc (x11-drivers/xf86-video-nsc is blocking x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.2) [blocks b ] x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga (x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga is

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] thanks for the other useful info I've snipped 4) update world with the ignore blocks option turned on (don't know which that is, since I use paludis). a quick grep of man emerge and man portage on `ignore' and on `block' didn't turn up such an

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2008 20:11:33 schrieb Harry Putnam: a quick grep of man emerge and man portage on `ignore' and on `block' didn't turn up such an option. As I said, I use paludis. I was only told that emerge also has this option, just last

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and you need all the videodrivers? I am sure not. So remove them and set VIDEO_CARDS in makec.conf. A light just went off over my head. For mnths, maybe yrs... I've wondered why so many x11 drivers would get installed. OK, but a quick google

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: lspci should show you what video card you have. Look for VGA or something like that. For example on my system: Thanks... I didn't see your post in time and posted a never mind after banging away with google and unearthing that info.

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From the output you gave, I would suggest that you 1) update portage to the latest (evantually keyword masked) version. This should be able to ignore blocks. 2) Adjust your VIDEO_CARDS, I don't think you have that many cards plugged into your

[gentoo-user] Is equery depends still viable

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
With recent changes in portage in the last few mnths, is equery in general and `equery depends' in particular still reliable?

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just install the latest portage. It has a block breaking function. Then upgrade e2fsprogs like described a few douzend times on this ml and in the forums. Remove all the acient video drivers you don't need anyway. After that, most blocks

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just install the latest portage. It has a block breaking function. Then upgrade e2fsprogs like described a few douzend times on this ml and in the forums. Remove all the acient video drivers you don't need anyway. After that, most blocks should

[gentoo-user] Re: Is equery depends still viable

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday 12 November 2008 22:04:52 Harry Putnam wrote: With recent changes in portage in the last few mnths, is equery in general and `equery depends' in particular still reliable? I use it fairly often still, but do notice I get a lot of null

[gentoo-user] Re: Is equery depends still viable

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With recent changes in portage in the last few mnths, is equery in general and `equery depends' in particular still reliable? I use it fairly often still, but do notice I get a lot of null output. So I no longer trust it fully. At least it doesn't

[gentoo-user] Re: Is equery depends still viable

2008-11-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you know off hand if there are any alternatives? dep from app-portage/udept just got recommended to me, but I don't know it's trustworthiness either. Looks promising .. thanks

[gentoo-user] tools currently available for update of etc files after updates

2008-11-14 Thread Harry Putnam
I remember discussion of one or more fairly new tools designed to ease the update of etc files following updates. Can anyone say what tools are currently available.

[gentoo-user] stumpwm users .. need help with failed emerge

2008-11-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Attempting to install stumpwm-cvs I run into an emerge failure with on of the dependencies; dev-lisp/cmucl. Below is a snippet from the end of the emerge of dev-lisp/cmucl-l-19d_p2. Can anyone see what might be the problem? [...] i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -rdynamic -Wstric

[gentoo-user] Re: tools currently available for update of etc files after updates

2008-11-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Lots of good input... thanks. I did try `cfg-update' but I thought it was really slow. Ditto for etc-update which I tried some time ago. What made me ask about this was that I was beginning to think my home made perl script was too slow and wondered if there was something a little more

[gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-15 Thread Harry Putnam
I posted some output in anther thread concerning update world (Subject: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem) Someone noticed I had too many x11 drivers installed and suggested I set the /etc/make.conf VIDEO_CARDS variable (which I never have set before) I figured out I have an nvidia

[gentoo-user] Re: tools currently available for update of etc files after updates

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 00:05:56 schrieb Harry Putnam: I did try `cfg-update' but I thought it was really slow. Slow? For me it's blazingly fast. Just to install it requires 3 pkgs to be installed: Just to install, it wants three packages

[gentoo-user] Re: tools currently available for update of etc files after updates

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or maybe just by experience in using the tool it would get handier and faster Just doing the automatic stuff, where no user intervention is involved _is_ blazingly fast. How fast you are in running the diff/merge tool of _your_ choice is, well,

[gentoo-user] Re: stumpwm users .. need help with failed emerge

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila) writes: Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Attempting to install stumpwm-cvs I run into an emerge failure with on of the dependencies; dev-lisp/cmucl. Below is a snippet from the end of the emerge of dev-lisp/cmucl-l-19d_p2. Can anyone see

[gentoo-user] Re: excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not only concerned about the problem reported in this thread; I also want to give opinion on his larger update a very outdated system task. Just for the record... I seem to have gotten things under control and did set

[gentoo-user] Nots and bolts of creating an ebuild

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
After looking at: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap2 [ Ebuild HOWTO ] Reading only partially so far but this looks really complicated. I thought I remembered a more nuts and bolts howto somewhere more appropriate for someone getting started who is

[gentoo-user] Re: Nots and bolts of creating an ebuild

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:16:26 -0600 Harry Putnam wrote: [ Ebuild HOWTO ] Reading only partially so far but this looks really complicated. I thought I remembered a more nuts and bolts howto somewhere more appropriate for someone getting started who

[gentoo-user] Re: Nots and bolts of creating an ebuild

2008-11-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Create an overlay and within that use the same structure as in the portage tree like /path/to/overlay/category/yourpackage/ [...] Nice walkthru... and just what I needed... Thanks to you and other posters who have provide some of the details.

[gentoo-user] Getting rid of all kde components

2008-11-17 Thread Harry Putnam
I've decided to stop using KDE after yrs of use... given that gentoo compiles everything from scratch, its just getting to much time lost jacking around with kde during upgrades. But also I'd forgotten what the oldtime linux desktops were like. fvwm was the main one in use when I started circa

[gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of all kde components

2008-11-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm pretty sure at least some of this doesn't actually depend on kde-base/arts but not quite sure what to make of the output. You have it the wrong way round. Those packages do not depend on arts, instead arts depends on them. They are needed to either

[gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of all kde components

2008-11-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Dienstag 18 November 2008 07:14:02 schrieb ext Harry Putnam: I've decided to stop using KDE after yrs of use... given that gentoo compiles everything from scratch, its just getting to much time lost jacking around with kde during upgrades. Hmm

[gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of all kde components

2008-11-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Dienstag 18 November 2008 09:06:20 schrieb ext Harry Putnam: You seem hell bent on picking a fight with me. But I'm not biting. Wow, calm down. I was just curious. Not buying Dirk. Hmm, you already complained about installation (or compile

[gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of all kde components

2008-11-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But why attacking Dirk for his valid question? The OP has complained in two threads about compiling. If you don't like compiling, gentoo is not for you. If Dirk wants to ask a question about why people should not use gentoo if they don't like to

[gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of all kde components

2008-11-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It doesn't seem like a complain, if you read it like you would really answer it. It wast just a comment to justify the question. I don't see a reason to question his comment. Gentoo is about choice (not just compiling), and this thread is about

[gentoo-user] Re: Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Somerville [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 07:45:04PM +, Mick wrote: Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my memory!) What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? I like rdiff-backup, which gives

[gentoo-user] Re: tools currently available for update of etc files after updates

2008-11-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 00:05:56 schrieb Harry Putnam: I did try `cfg-update' but I thought it was really slow. Slow? For me it's blazingly fast. I opened this thread back up to eat a little crow. Now that some of my config files have been

[gentoo-user] Display all global Use flags in force

2008-11-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Is there a command that will display all global USE flags? I can see whats in /etc/make.conf and my 2008.0 profile at make.defaults and the profiles package.use. Are there more?

[gentoo-user] startx fails with config/hal error

2008-11-21 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm having what appears to be a problem starting X, that produces no a single error clear at the end of Xorg.0.log: [...] (II) Mouse0: Setting mouse protocol to ExplorerPS/2 (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: (null) ((null)) (II)

[gentoo-user] Re: startx fails launching KDE 4

2008-11-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Result of startx xlog; cat xlog : hostname: Host name lookup failure I'm not sure how much this may help you problem. But have you made changes to your /etc/hosts file recently. You might post the first line of it here.

[gentoo-user] Re: startx fails launching KDE 4

2008-11-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2008-11-21, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Result of startx xlog; cat xlog : hostname: Host name lookup failure I'm not sure how much this may help you problem. But have you made changes to your

[gentoo-user] Re: startx fails launching KDE 4

2008-11-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Host lookup has nothing to do with this. Last time I checked, kde doesn't do anything with dnsdomainname. Also, I don't even have /etc/{init.d,conf.d}/domainname . It must have some amount to do with it: hostname: Host name lookup failure Was the

[gentoo-user] Re: startx fails launching KDE 4

2008-11-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Host lookup has nothing to do with this. Last time I checked, kde doesn't do anything with dnsdomainname. Also, I don't even have /etc/{init.d,conf.d}/domainname . It must have some amount to do

[gentoo-user] dual booting 2 gentoo installations

2008-11-24 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm just having second doubts about how to dual boot 2 gentoo installations. Can I just edit grub from the original install and add the appropriate kernal line like: title=kernel-2.6.27-r3-0x31a-1280x1024 root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.27-r3 root=/dev/hda5 vga=0x31A

[gentoo-user] Re: dual booting 2 gentoo installations

2008-11-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 24 November 2008 23:04:54 Harry Putnam wrote: I'm just having second doubts about how to dual boot 2 gentoo installations. Can I just edit grub from the original install and add the appropriate kernal line like: title=kernel-2.6.27-r3

[gentoo-user] pager independant of window manager

2008-11-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Can anyone tell me if there is a desktop pager that can be run regardless of window manager? I suspect the kde (kpager) might do it but I'm not willing to fuss with the kdelibs and qt-3.3 pkgs required to install it. Browsing through portage, It appears there is not such a critter.

[gentoo-user] Re: pager independant of window manager

2008-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Samstag, 29. November 2008 18:32:34 schrieb Rodrigo Lazo: I think he mean a pager like this: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbpager/ Aargh, stupid me. Yes, there's two meanings of pager. He he... caught you in a dumb move... since you make very

[gentoo-user] Re: pager independant of window manager

2008-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Rodrigo Lazo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbpager/ Yeah, I knew about that one and have tried it but its no more aware than bbpager (blackbox). By that I mean, clicking inside the pager does not transport you to that desktop. At least I did not see that

[gentoo-user] Re: pager independant of window manager

2008-12-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Joshua Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well... (pulling from http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbpager/ ) in ~/.fluxbox/fbpager set: fbpager.icons: true fbpager.changeWorkspaceButton: 1 and in the case of bbpager (which doesn't support icons), in ~/.bbtools/bbpager.bb and

[gentoo-user] Re: pager independant of window manager

2008-12-02 Thread Harry Putnam
brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: exist a pager , independent and more usefull than the traditional f/bbpafger , is ipager... ...go here [http://www.useperl.ru/ipager/index.en.html] Thanks... yes looks interesting.

[gentoo-user] [OT] Other repositories

2008-12-04 Thread Harry Putnam
I've seen it discussed here about how to access other repositories besides the default ones shown on the mirrors link at gentoo.org. But am completely drawing blanks now trying to remember how I might go about accessing other repos... also could use a word of advice as to which are reliable or

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Other repositories

2008-12-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday 4 December 2008, 23:16, Harry Putnam wrote: I've seen it discussed here about how to access other repositories besides the default ones shown on the mirrors link at gentoo.org. But am completely drawing blanks now trying to remember how I

[gentoo-user] modules in use

2008-12-05 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I tell which modules of those listed by `lsmod' are actually being used? In the situation during an install when the livecd has loaded every module known to man... how can I tell which are actually being use for my hardware? The network is easy enough since only one is loaded but there

[gentoo-user] Re: modules in use

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Paul Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ ... ] (good input, thanks posters) Paul wrote: Yes, I think the only real solution is to remove things and see what breaks. So is there consensus here that Pauls' comment above is right? »Q« choose the example of his wireless module I see the

[gentoo-user] Re: modules in use

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
»Q« [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see the same kind of thing, using alsa instead of oss. But Whatever the 0's mean, the output of lsmod won't be enough to help the OP, who really wants to be able to tell what modules are *needed*. $ lsmod | grep iwl iwl4965 185000 0 mac80211

[gentoo-user] Re: modules in use

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see something in lsmod that really is confusing: lsmod Module Size Used by [...] ipv6 220812 16 [...] And I have ipv6 set negative (-ipv6) in /make.conf So very unlikely anything but other non-used

[gentoo-user] boot to console (text) mode

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry for the lamer question but apparently things have changed since the days when putting default 3 in /etc/inittab would make the OS boot to text (console) mode. I'm running a vmappliance of gentoo-2008.0 from June and attempting to bring it up to date. Its setup to run xfce on boot. Looking

[gentoo-user] Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
I've had this silly problem for mnths and have posted on it here some time ago. I've thoroughly exhausted my meager knowledge and attempted any fixes suggested here. I'm running an uptodate 2008.0 (not the vmware I posted about in another thread) my main desktop at home. I have simple assigned

[gentoo-user] Re: boot to console (text) mode

2008-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You may want to check /etc/rc.conf and make sure it is not starting there. I'm assuming you want to boot to the default level but just not wanting the GUI to start. You may want search for softlevel and add that to your boot loader. Thanks... yes /etc/rc.conf

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:35:34 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: All sitting behind a netgear FVS-318 None and I mean absolutely none of those other machines have any trouble pinging out to the internet. Can you ping the other machines on your LAN? Does

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:30:05 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Yes Its a Netgear FVS-318 router at the head of my home lan between lan and internet cable modem. Can you ping the router? Yes, usually my first test during network hookups. Its just

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:44:35 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Not only can I ping the router... but I can connect with tcp to anything I want to on the internet. Its just that I can't ping the internet. I thought you couldn't ping the rest of the LAN

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with Neil. It sounds like a router issue. Possibly a DMZ setting in the router is the same as the IP of the machine that doesn't work correctly so the ping gets to the DMZ and the response is sent out to the Internet instead of back inside? I

[gentoo-user] [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been monkeying around with a vmware appliance of gentoo.2008.0 from July. Downloaded from bagvapp.com. It fired right up inside vmware running on winXP with no problems. But now updating I'm finding I cannot get a newer kernel compiled that will boot. The original kernel is 2.6.24-r8 and

[gentoo-user] Re: Need to recover corrupt disk drive...

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, I'm looking for advise. What should I try before I just blow it all away and start over? I REALLY would like to get my system restored/fixed, though. Any ideas would be most appreciated. I have'nt seen something like that happen before. You said grub

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've posted two horribly long configs here: http://www.jtan.com/~/reader/massive/ Sorry.. I screwed up the url. It should be: http://www.jtan.com/~reader/massive/ (no leading diag line before `reader') The page lists both the working 2.6.24

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will be no real help but I run the rt-sources kernel from the pro-audio overlay. (Not vmware - just a normal Gentoo machine) I have run a 2.6.24-rt version for a long time and it runs great. I recently tried the 2.6.27-rt version and I had to give up on

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:56:39PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: I've been monkeying around with a vmware appliance of gentoo.2008.0 from July. Downloaded from bagvapp.com. It fired right up inside vmware running on winXP with no problems. But now

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo vmware guest on winXP

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, running 2.6.23-gentoo-r9 in vmplayer on XP. I was getting the same error till I read somewhere about trying the noapic option. Fired right up. Here's my grub.conf entry for the kernel in case it helps. title Gentoo Linux 2.6.23-r9 root (hd0,0)

[gentoo-user] [OT] Anyone running 2.6.27* kernel as guest in vmware?

2008-12-08 Thread Harry Putnam
I hope I don't get torched for posting several OT threads recently but I'm really at my wits end with getting a newer kernel to work in gentoo guest on windows XP inside a virtual machine. I wondered if any kind sole who has a 2.6.27-* kernel working in that situation would mind sending me the

[gentoo-user] kenel line in grub.conf when using initrd

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
I happen to be stuck with a machine using an initramfs. Every of attempt of mine to build a new kernel not using an initram (Or even with initram) has failed with the boot routine failing to recognize my /dev/sdb3 as root. Its a gentoo vmappliance running on windows xp pro. I'm not asking about

[gentoo-user] How to tie module name to Kernel CONFIG

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Summary: How can I tie a module name (tg3) to a kernel config line? Details: Usually its kind of obvious if you dig around in .config a bit, but now always. I find the module at /lib/modules/2.6.24*/: ../kernel/drivers/net/tg3.ko But I haven't been able to nail that to a kernel config line.

[gentoo-user] Re: kenel line in grub.conf when using initrd

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2008 19:53:10 schrieb Harry Putnam: I happen to be stuck with a machine using an initramfs. Every of attempt of mine to build a new kernel not using an initram (Or even with initram) has failed with the boot routine failing

[gentoo-user] Re: How to tie module name to Kernel CONFIG

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But help is at hand! The .config option you are looking for is CONFIG_TIGON3 My last notebook had one of those and I searched for ages before spotting one day that t, g and 3 all appeared in TIGON3. Sorry that I couldn't help with the more general

[gentoo-user] Re: kenel line in grub.conf when using initrd

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are running it in vmware right? Your disk type, disk adapters type and chipset in a vmware vm are NOT the same as these device on the physical hardware. vmware emulates a BX440 chipset, SCSI drives and LSI or BusLogic adapter. You must use those

[gentoo-user] Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
I've started a new thread on my kernel troubles. I thought the thread subject should be more indicative of the semi OT nature of the query. Also thought it might make the information that accrues here more findable for any future searchers. Here is the general setup and the general problem:

[gentoo-user] Re: How to tie module name to Kernel CONFIG

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Geralt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, a generic way is: 1) Go to /usr/src/linux 2) grep tg3 $(find -name Makefile) Nice... I had come up with an even more shotgun approache. grep -r tg3 kernel-name I didn't have enough sense to know it would be in Makefiles

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry Putnam wrote: [...] It worked just fine. But none of my attempts to bring the kernel up to date have worked. All failing with a error message something like: `/dev/sdb3 is not a valid device'. According to your screenshot, you don't even

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry Putnam wrote: [...] It worked just fine. But none of my attempts to bring the kernel up to date have worked. All failing with a error message something like: `/dev/sdb3 is not a valid device'. According to your screenshot, you don't even

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0: Capabilities={Initiator} scsi4 : ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0, FwRev=h, Ports=1, MaxQ=128, IRQ=16 That's an LSI Fusion-MPT controller. Enable: Device Drivers-[*] Fusion MPT device

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My guess is tha while inside the initrd a kenrel module was loaded and it was something that you needed to read the boot volume. Are you statically or modulely including your sata drivers? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile kyle, how can I discover what is in the

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0: Capabilities={Initiator} scsi4 : ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0, FwRev=h, Ports=1, MaxQ=128, IRQ=16 That's an LSI Fusion

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes: [...] mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0: Capabilities={Initiator} scsi4 : ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0, FwRev

[gentoo-user] Re: kenel line in grub.conf when using initrd

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Heinrichs, Dirk (EXT-Capgemini - DE/Dusseldorf) dirk.heinrichs@nsn.com writes: [...] What is the error message you get? Posted in thread: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP [...] Did you try to examine the contents of that initrd with the one you produce. Maybe

[gentoo-user] Re: kenel line in grub.conf when using initrd

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Heinrichs, Dirk (EXT-Capgemini - DE/Dusseldorf) dirk.heinrichs@nsn.com writes: Am Donnerstag, den 11.12.2008, 08:05 +0100 schrieb ext Heinrichs, Dirk (EXT-Capgemini - DE/Dusseldorf): I'll extract `exact' messages if you are willing to spend some time on this. But I suspect we should

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de writes: From that and the contents of the original initrd you posted in the former thread and what others already found out: This initrd has all all sorts of driver modules for SATA and SCSI chipsets, so it's most likely that you forgot to compile in

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de writes: Forgot this one: dmesg output from the working setup. www.jtan.com/~reader/kdiag/dmesg.html

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [...] Just to make sure you're doing it right... [...] Forgot to mention that no initrd is needed and the grub.conf should not have an inird line. Ok Nikos... I'm going to do that right now but of course it will take a

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de writes: [...] OK, I'll give it a try. I see this in lspci [...] and this in dmesg [...] which then later detects the sdb partitions. This means that you would need to compile the following into the kernel: CONFIG_PCI CONFIG_SCSI

[gentoo-user] Re: video driver discovery

2008-12-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Robert Bridge rob...@robbieab.com writes: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:35:35 + (UTC) James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: How can I verify which driver(version) it is using? Read /etc/log/Xorg.0/log It will tell you which driver it loaded. Sorry to butt in here.. but Robert can you show a

[gentoo-user] kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Summary of request for help: Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for sure. Details: I'm at a point where any pared down kernel config I've built and tried has some terrible thing wrong with it.

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes: [...] Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a make menuconfig, disable everything you don't need, and compile everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module. I'd say the disable everything you don't need part is what Harry's

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes: [...] Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a make menuconfig, disable everything you don't need, and compile everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module. I'd say

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: You may also want to try lspci -v. It shows you what modules the hardware uses and it should be able to boot with those at least. Example: Well son-of-a-gun... that is nice. Thanks

[gentoo-user] [OT and ducking buckshot] How can I tell Debian version installed

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Don't shoot. I ask here because I know some here are debian users. I just created an vmware app with debian... I thought I was using the newest install media for latest release (lenny I think). But once installed (and this was a network install not from disc) I find really ancient tools.. a

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT and ducking buckshot] How can I tell Debian version installed

2008-12-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Charles Welton rockyspirit2...@gmail.com writes: Other than that, this is not the list for such questions. Thanks... and right you are.

[gentoo-user] What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-28 Thread Harry Putnam
I don't have an entry for net.eth1 in rc-update show I don't have any mention of eth1 in /etc/conf.d/net (only eth0) Nonetheless something continues to try to start net.eth1 during boot. What else controls that? If its not in rc-update or /etc/conf.d/net it shouldn't happen. I have a few other

[gentoo-user] Re: What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de writes: Am Sonntag, 28. Dezember 2008 12:38:37 schrieb Harry Putnam: Still, on a shutdown I can't get past this output:    hwclock waiting for localmount I mentioned it in your other thread. Try masking openrc =0.4.0. Yeah, just got around to reading

[gentoo-user] Re: What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Lee i...@leehouse.eclipse.co.uk writes: 1) net.eth1 problem There is a udev hook for starting net.* init scripts, /lib/udev/rules.d/90-network.rules to be precise The script is very brief There is no mention of net.eth1 in that script SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add,RUN+=net.sh %k

[gentoo-user] Re: What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de writes: Am Sonntag, 28. Dezember 2008 12:38:37 schrieb Harry Putnam: Still, on a shutdown I can't get past this output:    hwclock waiting for localmount I mentioned it in your other thread. Try masking openrc =0.4.0. I've masked =sys-apps/openrc

[gentoo-user] Re: What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Lee i...@leehouse.eclipse.co.uk writes: Ian Lee wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:04:23 -0600, Dale wrote: Probably hotplug, add !net.eth0 to rc_hotplug in /etc/rc.conf That's in /etc/conf.d/rc on mine. Has it moved? It moved in the switch from baselayout1 to

[gentoo-user] Re: What is starting net.eth1 [not in rc-update]

2008-12-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Lee i...@leehouse.eclipse.co.uk writes: They are all present in /etc/runlevels. And again I see no reference to net.eth1 or hwclock that udev rule starts any found network devices on your system net.sh is just a wrapper to the net.* scripts in init.d, if you never use eth1 then

[gentoo-user] KVM recognition changes in recent kernels

2008-12-31 Thread Harry Putnam
kernel 2.6.27-r7 and 2.6.28 and several other earlier kenels Summary: Anyone here know more details about the kernel settings and KVM switching? Details: (and inlined dmesg) I'm not exactly sure when or what kernel was in use when this change in behavior started but its been at least 2 mnths

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