The only reliable way is to measure it inside your network, but there are
many good bandwidth measurement sites on the Internet
http://www.dslreports.com/stest
DSL reports also rates ISPs.
http://home.cfl.rr.com/eaa/Bandwidth.htm
These tests are not accurate for several reasons, but they can
Well, for the engineering types, there is a tool known as sting that can
be used to characterize many interresting aspects of your transit link(s).
http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/savage/sting/
This is far from point-and-click and not recommended for people that
aren't comfortable
I have some hardware that i am sure will be of interest to the group
routers hubs switches nic etc any offer will be strongly considered as
I need to clean up my office
they can be seen at:
http://www.metrocast.net/~chris3/
email me with questions and offers
Quoting Rich Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you're doing any serious sort of web application my suggestion would
be to make it as DB neutral as possible. It makes it a little more
painful
at first as you can't necessarily make use of feature X of database Y
but
later on this usually pays
My quick rules of thumb:
1: If your data is fairly simple, use MySQL. If your data has complex
relationships or you need referential integrity, use PostgreSQL.
2: If you read mostly, use MySQL. If you write frequently, use PostgreSQL.
3: If your queries are simple:
select * from a
On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 12:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't believe that MySQL has support for record locking (I may be
wrong)
This is correct.
and it definitely doesn't handle table joins or secondary
indexing very well,
There are no foreign keys, however, it seems to handle joins
On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 21:51, Mansur, Warren wrote:
nmap scans hosts and reports if they are up, and what ports are open.
Just a quick question. Does nmap rely on being able to connect to a
particular website to download the TCP fingerprints, or are they
included with the program when
In a message dated: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:33:54 EST
Kenneth E. Lussier said:
Nessus can do nasty things to a system, and to a network as a whole if
it isn't used correctly, wisely, and carefully.
Oh, didn't know that.
Can you explain a little more about the differences
Nessus, on the other
On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Mansur, Warren wrote:
Just a quick question. Does nmap rely on being able to connect to a
particular website to download the TCP fingerprints, or are they included
with the program when installed?
AFAIK, nmap is completely self-contained, although I haven't looked at
Thanks for the answers to my question.
I guess any question on this forum is sure to promote discussion.
It will take a while to research all the information given.
Thanks again
Jim McGlaughlin
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jim McGlaughlin wrote:
I guess any question on this forum is sure to promote discussion.
Likely so. This can generally be considered a Good Thing. :-)
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Got a lot of messages ahead of me and someone may have already
posted this. See the analysis done by Tim GeoCrawler Perdue:
http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/tim2705.php3?page=1
Tim was one of the guys doing the heavy lifting that brought
Sourceforge.net into being.
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Quoting Mansur, Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
nmap scans hosts and reports if they are up, and what ports are open.
Just a quick question. Does nmap rely on being able to connect to a
particular website to download the TCP fingerprints, or are they
included with the program when installed?
On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Jack Hodgson wrote:
But that doesn't mean there isn't a good reason to try and measure that
service.
True.
So the (implied) original question: How DO we measure the speed of our
connectivity?
The only consistent measurement you can make is from your house to the
I've been looking into this recently, as I really wanted transaction
support for my database. However, given my web hosting situation, it's
much easier to run MySQL. What follows it what I've researched, but
haven't actually implemented yet.
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 09:39:31PM -0500, Rich
I'm not sure that is a good test either.
DSL speeds should be consistent between the CO and your house, because you
have a dedicated circuit. Broadband speeds can vary depending on traffic on
your loop. Good broadband carriers limit the number of subscribers on a
single area. (Mediaone used
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I'm not sure that is a good test either.
DSL speeds should be consistent between the CO and your house, because you
have a dedicated circuit. Broadband speeds can vary depending on traffic
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jerry Feldman wrote:
Broadband speeds can vary depending on traffic on your loop.
Good point. I was thinking in terms of DSL, which is point-to-point, from
subscriber to CO. Cable Internet is a shared medium. There is no way to
isolate one subscriber from everyone
Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm much more concerned about whether my provider will be around
next year. I don't expect ATT to disappear any time soon. Not
nearly so sure about Covad and its resellers.
Bear in mind that some of us wish we had a DSL to compare to... I
gave up
I think the issue is what does the measurement mean, and what is the
relevance. To a consumer, the speed of your connection to the ISP is
irrelevant (except maybe when uploading web pages to their site or
downloading email). To the consumer, it is the measurement of throughput to
the
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Bayard Coolidge USG wrote:
Bear in mind that some of us wish we had a DSL to compare to...
And some of us wish we had something better than a modem which never
connects at faster than 26 kilobit/sec :-/
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If you want to get a quick and dirty estimate of how things are, there is
a program called Visual route
http://www.visualware.com/visualroute/index.html that does visual
traceroutes between two points (yours and the target of your choice.)
There is a Linux version (it is java, but bear in mind
Hey,
With all the talk about about DSL throughput, I'm wondering if anyone
out there has any experience with either Dish Network's or DirecTV's
satellite internet connectivity offerings.
Evidently DirecTV is partnering with the likes of Earthlink, and
they're offering *seems* cheaper than
I have posted to this ist before on the topic, so you may want to look
through the archives.
I have use StarBand (aka Dish) for over a year. Throughput has gotten
progressively worse as subscribership has climbed. Latency is always at
least 600ms.
If you aren't running win32 you should think
Marc Evans should comment on Starband. The people I know who have DirecTV for Internet
hate
it.
I do know several people who have satellite, and the only service that they like is
Starband.
I'll send you the name of the company that hooked up my friend Larry (who lives in
Holland, Ma
but
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Paul Lussier wrote:
Does anyone have satellite access out there? If so, what do you think
about it?
We have a client who signed up with StarBand's two-way satellite Internet
service. It generally works, with one major problem: The latency is HORRID.
Time to ping the
Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Geosynchronous orbit is roughly 22,000 miles straight up.
Your request has to go 22,000 miles into space, turn around
and go 22,000 miles...
Actually, it's more like 22,400 miles straight up from the _equator_.
The slant range from our neck of the
This isn't an answer to make things happen quickly, but a well
written complaint to the NH Public Utility Commision by as many people as
possible, that have been explicitely turned down by Verizon as not being
loop qualified, will probably help. There is currently at least two
dockets open in the
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Paul Lussier wrote:
So what I'm hearing is, stay with dial-up :(
Believe me, if there was something better than my 26 kilobit part-time
dial-up available, I would use it! :-)
The only practical options are ISDN and leased lines. ISDN isn't
*completely* insane; you
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
This isn't an answer to make things happen quickly, but a well written
complaint to the NH Public Utility Commision ...
Hah! Through sad, hard personal experience, I know that the NH PUC
doesn't give two turds in a box about individual subscribers.
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Bayard Coolidge USG wrote:
Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Geosynchronous orbit is roughly 22,000 miles straight up.
Your request has to go 22,000 miles into space, turn around
and go 22,000 miles...
Actually, it's more like 22,400 miles straight up
Paul Lussier said:
how to get Verizon or ATT to get off their collective behinds
Frankly, I think getting Verizon to do anything will be extremely
difficult. They are losing billions of dollars per year, according
to their public statements, and my SWAG is they're not going to be
interested
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
Starband has their uplink in Georgia. The results of 60 seconds of 80 byte
ping packets without BST to the nearest pingable router are:
round-trip min/avg/max = 660.2/1054.0/2046.2 ms
For satellite, I believe the nearest pingable router is in
With satellite, you are going to be stuck with the latency. Some of the
sattelite systems have a dialup component, and others, like Starband are
two-way.
A friend of mine in Nebraska found an ISP that provides wireless.
Does ATT give any estimates as to when Cable Internet will be available.
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote:
How far are you from your CO (or DLC/SLIC box)? If you are over 18,000
feet or so, DSL is out-of-the-question, regardless.
True for Verizon ADSL. There are however manufacturers of xDSL equipment
that is working to 26000 feet today, that other
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
This isn't an answer to make things happen quickly, but a well written
complaint to the NH Public Utility Commision ...
Hah! Through sad, hard personal experience, I know that the NH PUC
doesn't give
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
Starband has their uplink in Georgia. The results of 60 seconds of 80 byte
ping packets without BST to the nearest pingable router are:
round-trip min/avg/max = 660.2/1054.0/2046.2 ms
For
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
How far are you from your CO (or DLC/SLIC box)? If you are over 18,000
feet or so, DSL is out-of-the-question, regardless.
The DLC/SLC issue is a far bigger problem ...
It can also be an advantage. I live something like 9 miles (almost 50,000
Another possibility is ISDN(a bit better than dialup). Verizon has been
very slow to set up tarrifs that make this cost effective.
ISDN isn't bad, it's not DSL or cable level bandwidth, but it is a hell of
a lot better than analog phone lines. The trick is of course to use Data
over Voice
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
How far are you from your CO (or DLC/SLIC box)? If you are over 18,000
feet or so, DSL is out-of-the-question, regardless.
The DLC/SLC issue is a far bigger problem ...
It can also be an
That is a service sometimes referred to as IDSL. Several DSL providers
offered this to clients who were outside of the standard DSL areas.
IMHO, DSL is an interim strategy. It is a way for the phone companies to
utilize existing copper technology. Verizon (nee Bell Titanic, nee Nynex,
nee
Um, am I reading this right? When I move out of Nashua I'm stuck with dialup
again? I've already got ATT Broadband Internet. I'm not thrilled with it,
but it works...
-Mike-
On Monday 18 February 2002 09:15 pm, Jerry Feldman wrote:
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Does ATT give any estimates as to when Cable
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
There is a draft RFC for the protocol. The Win32 version is known to run
to some semi-useful degree under WINE. Looking through the starband news
groups on dejanews can be somewhat useful.
Indeed. For those too lazy to look, here is some information:
True. Ziplink, the ISP in Lowell, at one time had a very extensive set of
web pages on ISDN and how to order it.
ISDN (for consumer use) is broken up into 3 channels:
2 are 64K and the third is for control. You can bind the 2 64K channels
into one for an effective 128K. DOVB, I think, is
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jerry Feldman wrote:
Currently the cable TV guys can supply analog and digital TV, digital
phone service, and Internet both to homes and to businesses.
Yah, and then instead of The Phone Company, we will have The Broadband
Company. Except many of those companies also
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jerry Feldman wrote:
When ordering ISDN, the phone company used to be clueless.
Still is.
Definitely contact the potential ISDN ISP, since requirements vary
depending on the exact configuration.
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jerry Feldman wrote:
True. Ziplink, the ISP in Lowell, at one time had a very extensive set of
web pages on ISDN and how to order it.
ISDN (for consumer use) is broken up into 3 channels:
2 are 64K and the third is for control. You can bind the 2 64K channels
into
This is true. ATT BB bought Mediaone (which was previopusly owned by US West).
However, the broadband companies, which still large companies, are still much less
bureaucratic
than the phone companies. They all developed from smaller cable companies, such as
Continental CableVistion, or Cox (a
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Subject: Re: Satelite systems
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
Starband has their uplink in Georgia. The results of 60
Has anyone seen the Robert X Cringley site? He's doing stuff w/ 802.11b.
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010712.html
The synopsis: he's using satellite can't get DSL or Cable modem. So
he finds someone (using a telescope) that can get DSL, gets *them* a
connection, then uses
Okay, as requested -- after having a little fun anonymizing this email
flameware from about six years ago, I've posted it at
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traces of stuff I've missed in my sed script, but it should be enough
to protect the innocent
And attached is the cast of characters.
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When: February 20, 2002
Topic: Introduction to IBM AIX
Presented by Daoud Noble
Location: MIT Building 6-120
(Note: Another room change. We should be here for the next few months)
An introduction to AIX, IBM's flavor of Unix, and how it differs from other
flavors such as Solaris, GNU/Linux,
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But that's downright mild compared to the flamewar GNHLUG had over who
should have root passwords. That was before mail-archive.com, though, so
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