Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-27 Thread Stephen Usher
Rich Mellor wrote: I would also like a java based Sinclair QL emulator and perhaps that would be a project which Quanta could help fund the development of - it would attract a much wider audience and enable demos of programs to be played online to show what the QL is capable of. There are

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-27 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Rich Mellor wrote: I would also like a java based Sinclair QL emulator and perhaps that would be a project which Quanta could help fund the development of - it would attract a much wider audience and enable demos of programs to be played online to show what the QL is capable of. There are

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-27 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c27117d.20...@lingula.org.uk, Stephen Usher st...@lingula.org.uk writes Rich Mellor wrote: I would also like a java based Sinclair QL emulator and perhaps that would be a project which Quanta could help fund the development of - it would attract a much wider audience and enable

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-24 Thread Rich Mellor
On 24/06/2010 05:10, Gerhard Plavec wrote: Hello Rich ! Rich Mellor schrieb: I would also like a java based Sinclair QL emulator and perhaps that would be a project which Quanta could help fund the development of - it would attract a much wider audience and enable demos of programs to be

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-24 Thread Anton Preinsack
Am 24.06.2010 um 09:05 schrieb Rich Mellor: On 24/06/2010 05:10, Gerhard Plavec wrote: Hello Rich ! Rich Mellor schrieb: I would also like a java based Sinclair QL emulator and perhaps that would be a project which Quanta could help fund the development of - it would attract a much

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-23 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message e1orbxq-0005od...@outmx01.plus.net, Martin Wheatley mart...@martinwheatley.plus.com writes For personal use it will be provided free. Although, a persons free use will continue to make money for the provider behind the scenes. -- Malcolm Cadman

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-23 Thread Rich Mellor
On 19/06/2010 21:46, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Anyway, I haven't heard any specifications, as yet for a QL21 - a QL inheritance device for the 21st Century . -- Malcolm Cadman I think it'd be great to have an online QL running in a browser - perhaps Java based or whatever. I seem to remember

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-23 Thread Tony Firshman
Rich Mellor wrote, on 23/Jun/10 22:01 | Jun23: I would also like a java based Sinclair QL emulator and perhaps that would be a project which Quanta could help fund the development of - it would attract a much wider audience and enable demos of programs to be played online to show what the QL

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-23 Thread Gerhard Plavec
Hello Rich ! Rich Mellor schrieb: I would also like a java based Sinclair QL emulator and perhaps that would be a project which Quanta could help fund the development of - it would attract a much wider audience and enable demos of programs to be played online to show what the QL is capable

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-22 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message e1oqo1x-0008vu...@outmx06.plus.net, Martin Wheatley mart...@martinwheatley.plus.com writes With the iPad, you have missed the point I was making. I was using the iPad like devices - not the iPad per se - as an example as to the way things may well ( are ) going forward. Then we

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-22 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c1fbc34.2000...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes Yes, OK then ... what will be the 21st Century specification of this Linux based laptop ? No need to be practical, right now ... just dream what it might be . Well, if you put it like that, I

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-22 Thread Martin Wheatley
For personal use it will be provided free. Although, a persons free use will continue to make money for the provider behind the scenes. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ If you are expecting Microsoft or Apple to allow you to use their products for free

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Wheatley
Malcolm wrote So, iPad like devices will succeed all of the above, and we will all be using them as they get more capable. You have to distinguish between those things that are long term computing trends and those which are short term fads No one can dispute the huge sales of the Ipad.

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-21 Thread Tony Firshman
Roy Wood wrote, on 20/Jun/10 23:29 | Jun20: On 20/06/2010 20:03, Norman Dunbar wrote: On 18/06/10 00:15, Tony Firshman wrote: I have that set but it doesn't spell check. Looks like a bug (3.0.4). That's interesting Tony. Roy on Windows and you on Mac and me on Linux, all using 3.0.4 (I

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-21 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message e1oqc0a-0006a9...@outmx08.plus.net, Martin Wheatley mart...@martinwheatley.plus.com writes Malcolm wrote So, iPad like devices will succeed all of the above, and we will all be using them as they get more capable. You have to distinguish between those things that are long term

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-21 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c1fb5a0.80...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes So, iPad like devices will succeed all of the above, and we will all be using them as they get more capable. Nope. iPad like devices may catch on - they didn't when they were called Tablet PCs way back. I

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-21 Thread Norman Dunbar
Yes, OK then ... what will be the 21st Century specification of this Linux based laptop ? No need to be practical, right now ... just dream what it might be . Well, if you put it like that, I still have no idea! However, a few thoughts, or rambles? MC68 processor and lots of RAM.

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-21 Thread Roy Wood
On 21/06/2010 20:10, Malcolm Cadman wrote: SNIP No need to be practical, right now ... just dream what it might be . :-) Was it the Rocky Horror Show? - 'Don't dream it - be it!' -- Roy Wood ___ QL-Users Mailing List

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Wheatley
With the iPad, you have missed the point I was making. I was using the iPad like devices - not the iPad per se - as an example as to the way things may well ( are ) going forward. Then we will have to disagree. There is a place for the Ipad and Ipadalikes but I don't see it replacing PCs

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Bryan Horstmann
on 19/6/10 11:44 PM, ql-us...@q-v-d.com wrote: Darren Branagh wrote: If I come across fifty grand I dont need i'll give you a call:) Okay, I'll stay near the phone from now on :-D What about QLAY, or Q-Emulator.. guys? Or writing one from scratch... anyone out there with the

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Billy
On 19/06/2010 23:30, Darren Branagh wrote: On 6/19/10, Malcolm Cadmanq...@mcad.demon.co.uk wrote: I am looking forward to have an iPad like device myself, though, too ... although I would expect to make a wider use of it than just entertainment. Why? its a toy. its an Apple iTouch on

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Dilwyn Jones
But an Ipad - no, what do you do with a hi tech dinner plate when not using it, too big to go in your pocket, even the most confirmed medallion man would think twice. Hi-tech dinner plate... I like it. I could just imagine Bill on the farm sat in his tractor cab playing with his hi-tech dinner

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Billy
On 20/06/2010 11:01, Dilwyn Jones wrote: But an Ipad - no, what do you do with a hi tech dinner plate when not using it, too big to go in your pocket, even the most confirmed medallion man would think twice. Hi-tech dinner plate... I like it. I could just imagine Bill on the farm sat in his

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message aanlktilppsanrruhli7ao-pluchjabu7q1exxyn7a...@mail.gmail.com, Darren Branagh darrenbran...@gmail.com writes On 6/19/10, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: I think it'd be great to have an online QL running in a browser - perhaps Java based or whatever. I seem to

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message aanlktiksjke34p4bw1hldg73ejkzyzkrn_k6wlmkx...@mail.gmail.com, Darren Branagh darrenbran...@gmail.com writes On 6/19/10, Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk wrote: I am looking forward to have an iPad like device myself, though, too ... although I would expect to make a wider use

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 20/06/10 10:13, Billy wrote: But an Ipad - no, what do you do with a hi tech dinner plate when not using it, too big to go in your pocket, even the most confirmed medallion man would think twice. It doesn't do flash, which puts about 70% of the internet out of reach. It doesnt do HD

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 20/06/10 11:01, Dilwyn Jones wrote: A Scot with an iPad up his kilt? ooer missus, I hate to think! Now Dilwyn, we wear the sporran on the outside of the kilt. It's a glorified handbag/purse. There are no pockets on a kilt, so you have to put your wallet, chewing gum, loose change etc

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 20/06/10 19:56, Norman Dunbar wrote: It also has a call action against it in the US, already. He should have wrote (!): It also has a CLASS action Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 18/06/10 00:15, Tony Firshman wrote: I have that set but it doesn't spell check. Looks like a bug (3.0.4). That's interesting Tony. Roy on Windows and you on Mac and me on Linux, all using 3.0.4 (I think Roy mentioned 3.0.4) and only Linux can spell check as you type. Spooky! Works fine for

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 19/06/10 20:00, P Witte wrote: But surely you see that it could spell then end of the Personal Computer, in which case the next great thing becomes significant and not merely a fad. They said that COBOL was dead. it lives on many many years after it's alleged demise. The reaosn being, there

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 18/06/10 00:42, Roy Wood wrote: It was the threading that I was referring to. Turnpike would put thum into subject threads but Thunderbird just puts them in a long, jumbled, list - just like Outlook! Well, mine are threaded, by subject, threads start with the initial posting and new stuff

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Tony Firshman
Norman Dunbar wrote (an awful lot), on 20/Jun/10 20:52 | Jun20: Nice to see so much good stuff from you Norman - your silver sporran must contain good stuff.. ... and my check as you type speel checker is now working. I think I missed it as the underlines disappear randomly. The 'speel' above

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c1e6efb.2070...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes On 19/06/10 20:00, P Witte wrote: But surely you see that it could spell then end of the Personal Computer, in which case the next great thing becomes significant and not merely a fad. They said that

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Dilwyn Jones
A Scot with an iPad up his kilt? ooer missus, I hate to think! Now Dilwyn, we wear the sporran on the outside of the kilt. It's a glorified handbag/purse. There are no pockets on a kilt, so you have to put your wallet, chewing gum, loose change etc somewhere! Drat, foiled again. Anyway,

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Roy Wood
On 20/06/2010 20:03, Norman Dunbar wrote: On 18/06/10 00:15, Tony Firshman wrote: I have that set but it doesn't spell check. Looks like a bug (3.0.4). That's interesting Tony. Roy on Windows and you on Mac and me on Linux, all using 3.0.4 (I think Roy mentioned 3.0.4) and only

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Roy Wood
On 20/06/2010 20:52, Norman Dunbar wrote: On 18/06/10 00:42, Roy Wood wrote: It was the threading that I was referring to. Turnpike would put thum into subject threads but Thunderbird just puts them in a long, jumbled, list - just like Outlook! Well, mine are threaded, by subject,

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-20 Thread Darren Branagh
On 6/20/10, Roy Wood qbra...@qbranch.demon.co.uk wrote: Well I don't know if I have talent. I enjoy writing, songs, blogs on my MySpace page and I used to enjoy writing the QL Today columns. Songs are the best because they are more personal. I do it, like I do everything really, purely for

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread P Witte
gdgqler wrote: On 17 Jun 2010, at 23:44, P Witte wrote: The current trend appears to be towards Cloud computing, where data storage and even processing power is an off-site, on-line service. Thats a major paradigm shift - back to square one, some three or four generations ago. Aha! But

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread gdgqler
On 19 Jun 2010, at 11:39, P Witte wrote: gdgqler wrote: On 17 Jun 2010, at 23:44, P Witte wrote: The current trend appears to be towards Cloud computing, where data storage and even processing power is an off-site, on-line service. Thats a major paradigm shift - back to square one, some

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread Norman Dunbar
George, The current trend appears to be towards Cloud computing, Aha! But how do you program for this? Cloud is the latest marketing paradigm/buzz word to hit the IT world. Like most other next great things it will pass and fade from memory. All it means is that instead of you or your company

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread P Witte
Norman Dunbar wrote: George, The current trend appears to be towards Cloud computing, Aha! But how do you program for this? Cloud is the latest marketing paradigm/buzz word to hit the IT world. Like most other next great things it will pass and fade from memory. All it means is that

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c1d13b9.10...@witte.fsbusiness.co.uk, P Witte p...@witte.fsbusiness.co.uk writes Norman Dunbar wrote: George, The current trend appears to be towards Cloud computing, Aha! But how do you program for this? Cloud is the latest marketing paradigm/buzz word to hit the IT world.

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Anyway, I haven't heard any specifications, as yet for a QL21 - a QL inheritance device for the 21st Century . -- Malcolm Cadman I think it'd be great to have an online QL running in a browser - perhaps Java based or whatever. I seem to remember someone mentioning a ZX81 or Spectrum which

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread Darren Branagh
On 6/19/10, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: I think it'd be great to have an online QL running in a browser - perhaps Java based or whatever. I seem to remember someone mentioning a ZX81 or Spectrum which would run in a browser. That way, you'd be free of the nuances of any

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Darren Branagh wrote: I would love to see Marcel work on converting QPC to run this way - Marcel, is this possible? If so, is much work involved? I certainly would'nt mind paying a few bob for the ability to pull up a working QL on ANY PC I happen to be working on - with an internet

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread Darren Branagh
On 6/19/10, Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk wrote: I am looking forward to have an iPad like device myself, though, too ... although I would expect to make a wider use of it than just entertainment. Why? its a toy. its an Apple iTouch on steroids. I had one for a while testing it

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread Darren Branagh
On 6/19/10, Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net wrote: Darren Branagh wrote: I would love to see Marcel work on converting QPC to run this way - Marcel, is this possible? If so, is much work involved? I certainly would'nt mind paying a few bob for the ability to pull up a working QL on

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread Tony Firshman
P Witte wrote, on 19/Jun/10 20:00 | Jun19: Norman Dunbar wrote: George, The current trend appears to be towards Cloud computing, Aha! But how do you program for this? Cloud is the latest marketing paradigm/buzz word to hit the IT world. Like most other next great things it will pass and

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Darren Branagh wrote: If I come across fifty grand I dont need i'll give you a call:) Okay, I'll stay near the phone from now on :-D What about QLAY, or Q-Emulator.. guys? Or writing one from scratch... anyone out there with the ability or the money :) It'll have to be written

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread Tony Firshman
Malcolm Cadman wrote, on 19/Jun/10 20:45 | Jun19: Interesting stuff ... :-) I agree that the personal computer may just become another technological casualty as the 21st Century progresses. Devices like iPads look like being the way forward that most people will go for. After all PC's

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-18 Thread gdgqler
On 17 Jun 2010, at 23:44, P Witte wrote: The current trend appears to be towards Cloud computing, where data storage and even processing power is an off-site, on-line service. Thats a major paradigm shift - back to square one, some three or four generations ago. Aha! But how do you

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-18 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c1aa536.3070...@witte.fsbusiness.co.uk, P Witte p...@witte.fsbusiness.co.uk writes Damn, I missed all the fun as Orange havent delivered the mail for over a week ;o( Not even the message to tell me that I need to agree to their new conditions before I can use my mail account (via

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-17 Thread Norman Dunbar
Evening Roy, On 16/06/10 20:32, Roy Wood wrote: Right, if you want to read what I am replying to you will have to go back to Norman's eloquent reply to my . well you get the picture. Eloquent? I've never been called that before! ;-) I fear I was a touch spartan when I referred to free

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-17 Thread P Witte
Damn, I missed all the fun as Orange havent delivered the mail for over a week ;o( Not even the message to tell me that I need to agree to their new conditions before I can use my mail account (via an email client or even their webmail interface). How dumb and unhelpful is that! Regarding

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-17 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Damn, I missed all the fun as Orange havent delivered the mail for over a week ;o( Not even the message to tell me that I need to agree to their new conditions before I can use my mail account (via an email client or even their webmail interface). How dumb and unhelpful is that! On Orange

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-17 Thread Roy Wood
On 17/06/2010 21:51, Norman Dunbar wrote: I am typing this in Thunderbird (which I don't really like but Turnpike, which dealt with these lists much better, will not run on W7. Funnily enough, I never got to grips with Turnpike when I first started up with Demon. Thunderbird has been my

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-17 Thread Rich Mellor
On 17/06/2010 23:59, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Damn, I missed all the fun as Orange havent delivered the mail for over a week ;o( Not even the message to tell me that I need to agree to their new conditions before I can use my mail account (via an email client or even their webmail interface). How

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-16 Thread gdgqler
On 15 Jun 2010, at 23:29, Roy Wood wrote: The QL was a business computer in concept. Very few games of any note. Right now, as was pointed out earlier, there is no decent word processor and no other, modern, usable, software. QPC2 runs just fine on my W7 machine, but why would I use it?

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-16 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 15/06/10 23:29, Roy Wood wrote: Hi Roy, good to hear from you. Hope you are well. I know that there are a whole bumch of 'free software' guerillas out there That'll be me then! ;-) but no free software has ever matched the commercial stuff - sad as that may be. Forgive me, but that is

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-16 Thread Roy Wood
Right, if you want to read what I am replying to you will have to go back to Norman's eloquent reply to my . well you get the picture. I fear I was a touch spartan when I referred to free software. I do use Firefox and some of the add-ons for that and there is a wonderful free application

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-16 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c17fed1.9080...@qbranch.demon.co.uk, Roy Wood qbra...@qbranch.demon.co.uk writes On 15/06/2010 21:58, Malcolm Cadman wrote: SNIP There is an audience for retro computers - of which the QL is one. A software package, or easy access to free or low cost software, would be essential

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-15 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c16cc82.9090...@genesis-midi.com, Phil Kett pk...@genesis-midi.com writes On 15/06/2010 00:15, Roy Wood wrote: Which brings me onto the 'future of the QL' debate. Nothing has a future if it does not move. All the while I was writing 'Byts of Wood' was up against the fact that

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-15 Thread Roy Wood
On 15/06/2010 21:58, Malcolm Cadman wrote: SNIP There is an audience for retro computers - of which the QL is one. A software package, or easy access to free or low cost software, would be essential to tempt users in. As they need to see something to be done with the system - and will not be

Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-14 Thread Phil Kett
On 15/06/2010 00:15, Roy Wood wrote: Which brings me onto the 'future of the QL' debate. Nothing has a future if it does not move. All the while I was writing 'Byts of Wood' I was up against the fact that there was nothing to write about. Nothing new. No point in being a trader for a static