Re: [svg-developers] Re: Roman numerals in SVG

2011-10-19 Thread ddailey
titles, even though they were supposed to be italicized. In my case, though, I really did need the overlineunderline option: http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/2011/simplePuns.svg [1] This doesn't work in FF or Opera, but it does in ASV. cheers David On Sun 10/16

Re: [svg-developers] SMIL -- still not yet!

2011-10-19 Thread ddailey
ON MON 10/17/11 11:56 AM , JOHN DELACOUR Please point me to some SMIL animations that are not jerky in Firefox and Opera [snip] http://cs.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/2011/Galorie.html [1] Generally, support for SMIL animation across browsers follows this ordering

[svg-developers] Deadline postponed for SVG Open abstracts

2011-04-21 Thread ddailey
The organizing committee for SVG Open has pushed back the deadline for submission of abstracts to May 15th. (see http://www.w3.org/News/2011#entry-9074 [1] for confirmation of said claim) We haven't yet changed the date on the SVG Open site, but in case you missed the

Re: [svg-developers] Re: call JS function from html ?

2011-03-15 Thread ddailey
I believe the examples in http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html#scripting_HTML work in all browsers. cheers David - Original Message - From: profileofpradeep To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:09 AM Subject:

Re: [svg-developers] Text on arc - rendering position

2011-03-05 Thread ddailey
Hi Jan, Not sure if this is what you have in mind, but perhaps experiment with something like this: svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; path id=path0 d=M10 150C65.228 150 110 194.772 110 250C110 305.228 65.228 350 10 350 stroke=green fill=none/

Re: [svg-developers] Cool site and tool for composing Filter effects

2011-02-22 Thread ddailey
Very cool indeed! It is exactly this graph-theoretic interconnectivity between filter primitives and their intermediate stages (captured so nicely with the flow-chart model that Christian is using) that makes them powerful and a bit tricky to wield. My students (in several continents) will be

Re: [svg-developers] Filter Help

2011-02-20 Thread ddailey
Hi Patrick, A couple of things come to mind: 1. this is sort of cool but doesn't answer your question and has nothing to do with filters. but it is a bit bubble-gummy: http://www.themaninblue.com/experiment/Blobular/ (I think I tried it in Opera and FF4 but it didn't work in ASV) (I just ran

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Filter Help

2011-02-20 Thread ddailey
I was intrigued by feDisplacement, but I cannot seem to control (or figure out how to control) the direction of the displacement. Yes, I've had trouble controlling the thing precisely. The little experiments with the checkerboard, are an attempt to calibrate those effects, here's another

Re: [svg-developers] SVG SMIL in Safari ( Test Sample )

2011-02-19 Thread ddailey
Hi Raks, I recently gave up my i-phone so my feedback isn't what you're looking for, though from my experience i-phone SVG in Safari is much like Windows Safari only slower. I got very different behavior from your example in four of the five browsers I tested: Opera -- pretty sure I see what

Re: [svg-developers] Re: How to time some SVG+JavaScript?

2011-02-13 Thread ddailey
. Specifically under the heading The programs there is an item: 1. Run time vs. render time and how to measure. but that is not linked to anything. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddailey@... wrote: Here's an approach I used in a paper for the SVG2007: http

[svg-developers] a brick pattern

2011-02-11 Thread ddailey
Back some time ago, there was discussion (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/59832 [1] ) about making brick patterns in SVG, with perspective. I don't recall all of the discussion that ensued, but here's a solution using :

Re: [svg-developers] How to time some SVG+JavaScript?

2011-02-08 Thread ddailey
Here's an approach I used in a paper for the SVG2007: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/SVGOpen2007/SVGOpen2007.htm I was interested, among other things, in how JavaScript and SMIL animations interacted, and in the effect of overstuffing the SVG DOM with lots of content. cheers David

[svg-developers] scripting SVG in HTML (followup)

2011-02-08 Thread ddailey
I just solved one of those problems that I wrote about in my last message: #2 -- One apparently doesn't have a document within the SVG node -- you just acess the elements within it as though they are childNodes. Of course that means that a statement like

[svg-developers] Scripting SVG in HTML5

2011-02-08 Thread ddailey
Some of my students have started turning in projects in which they use SVG inline in HTML5. So I figured it was time for me to figure something out about it. Based on this little thing [1] that works in all browsers, I decided just to put the SVG inside an HTML container to see what I could

Re: [svg-developers] scripting SVG in HTML (followup)

2011-02-08 Thread ddailey
; id=SVG onload=startup() rect width=100% height=100% fill=white / circle r=50 / text font-size=12 x=50 y=20 onclick=removeIt()Click something to remove it/text text font-size=12 x=50 y=80Click nothing to add something/text /svg/html - Original Message - From: ddailey To: svg

[svg-developers] rotated text within a pattern

2011-01-23 Thread ddailey
Here's a simple test that all browsers that I have tested fail: http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/textPatternRotate.svg It's the first time I've ever seen Safari for Windows actually do the best job for something SVG-related, and so, is noteworthy for that alone! Here's the code

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Native support for page panning in browsers

2011-01-20 Thread ddailey
Chaals writes: Actually, the activation should be defined by the User Agent (most of the touch devices we work with don't have ctrl- or alt- keys. Well, yes, there are already plenty of places where touch devices can't handle certain things, but then there are already plenty of places where

[svg-developers] Bounding box on use

2011-01-19 Thread ddailey
If I understand Robert Longson's recent reply to a series of questions I had about styling and measuring s, it is because they don't have an SVGTransformable interface, that we can't measure them with getBBox, but have to instead use getExtentOfChar . Why doesn't have a transformable

Re: [svg-developers] Re: trampolining and difficulties aligning text to its overline

2011-01-18 Thread ddailey
://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/tspanmeasure.svg while ASV, Opera, Chrome and Safari are all wrong (albeit for different reasons in each case)? It looks like Chrome has just a different manifestation of uncertainty about how to apply getExtentofChar in cases of scaled or kerned text. What I'm trying to do

Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG Support in Opera 11

2011-01-15 Thread ddailey
Howdy! When these messages were going on I hadn't had a chance to even look to see if Opera 11 was doing anything different than in the past, so this morning I took the opportunity. Noteworthy is that that there are now lots of things that DO work in Opera 11 which never used to work anywhere

Re: [svg-developers] trampolining and difficulties aligning text to its overline

2011-01-15 Thread ddailey
David - Original Message - From: ddailey To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 5:13 PM Subject: [svg-developers] trampolining and difficulties aligning text to its overline I have moved the introduction* of this to the end so as to save

[svg-developers] Native support for page panning in browsers

2011-01-15 Thread ddailey
In http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/interact.html#EnableZoomAndPanControls it tells us that SVG user agents that operate in interaction-capable user environments are required to support the ability to magnify and pan. I know how to zoom (or at least, I know how to enlarge a page -- which is a bit

Re: [svg-developers] Divide objects below the specified path

2011-01-08 Thread ddailey
Hi Jan, I'm not sure if I quite understand your scenario, but a couple of quick responses: first of all a path can have multiple M subcommands: path d=M 100,350 300,100 500,350 z M 250,320 250,220 350,220 350,320 z fill=#ff8 stroke=black stroke-width=15 fill-rule=evenodd/ draws a triangle

Re: [svg-developers] Divide objects below the specified path

2011-01-08 Thread ddailey
Perhaps something like this is what you have in mind accomplishing: I've made your triangle black and put it in a mask with a big white rectangle underneath I had to mess with coordinates a bit to get it all to line up. The mask is then applied to your group. In this way masks can be

Re: [svg-developers] Divide objects below the specified path

2011-01-08 Thread ddailey
/ /g - Original Message - From: ddailey To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Divide objects below the specified path Perhaps something like this is what you have in mind accomplishing: I've

Re: [svg-developers] SVG internal script

2011-01-06 Thread ddailey
Take a look at http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html#joint_use -- there is an example there (look inside a table named Making SVG functions callable from HTML ). Basically, suppose the svg is linked from the html via object, embed or iframe. And suppose the function

[svg-developers] trampolining and difficulties aligning text to its overline

2011-01-04 Thread ddailey
I have moved the introduction* of this to the end so as to save the reader from my inspired prose. While arming yourself with all available SVG viewers, consider the example at http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/tspanmeasure.svg I was trying to top-justify the word Trampoline so that all

Re: [svg-developers] SVGopen 2011: Any news regarding date/location?

2011-01-03 Thread ddailey
Hi and Happy New Year, indeed! The organizing committee should be making an announcement within the next couple of weeks, I believe! Please stay tuned to this channel! cheers David - Original Message - From: meikelneu To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January

Re: [svg-developers] Graphics on path

2011-01-03 Thread ddailey
With script it is pretty easy. See, for example: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/curve.svg hope this helps David - Original Message - From: honyk To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 2:57 PM Subject: [svg-developers] Graphics on path

Re: [svg-developers] Clipping the text on the closed path

2011-01-03 Thread ddailey
Hi Jan, I tried your example in Windows in Opera, IE+ASV and Firefox 4beta and was able to see the 20 just fine in all three. I was able to replicate your problem. though in Chrome (which usually agrees with Safari). The SVG support in those first three is more mature and stable than in the

Re: [svg-developers] Re: anti-aliasing fill

2010-12-29 Thread ddailey
Hi Kenneth, Using Opera, Safari, Firefox and IE+ASV in Windows, I don't see anything that I would not be willing to attribute to retinal effects caused by the close superimposition of red and blue (two mutually unfocusable colors according to one of my undergrad intro psych texts -- I don't

Re: [svg-developers] Introducing me and my SVG toy

2010-12-06 Thread ddailey
Hi Chris, Well, you know me... I like people to be happy, and Ollie's toy is just very cool! David - Original Message - From: Chris Peto To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:03 PM Subject: RE: [svg-developers] Introducing me and my SVG toy

Re: [svg-developers] Drawing the axes in dynamically generated SVG and placing text along them

2010-12-05 Thread ddailey
Well, this draws a grid from 0% to 100% both horizontally and vertically. Don't know if it will be of help or not, but the code should be pretty easy to follow. cheers David - Original Message - From: Pranav Lal To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 05,

Re: [svg-developers] US Map with US Census data

2010-11-23 Thread ddailey
From: ddailey ddai...@zoominternet.netmailto:ddai...@zoominternet.net Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.commailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com svg-developers@yahoogroups.commailto:svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:12:52 +0100 To: svg-developers

[svg-developers] US Map with US Census data

2010-11-21 Thread ddailey
Here's a little something I cobbled together in the past couple of days. http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/usmap.svg It works in Opera, Firefox, Chrome and Safari, but not in ASV(IE). I've not tested it in IE9, but would be interested to know if it works there. I took a gnu-licensed SVG map from

Re: [svg-developers] Multi user SVG

2010-11-17 Thread ddailey
I was going to say something about a felt need in the scientific community for something that allows collaborative drawing, until I saw the part about fun. Certainly the users should have the ability to introduce and launch flexible shapes (having personalities, behavior, velocities,

Re: [svg-developers] SVG Fonts

2010-11-15 Thread ddailey
Actually IE/ASV handles much arbitrary content inside a glyph see http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/gradientfont4.svg in which rotating gradients are assigned to shapes layed out as text along text paths to simulate non-linear gradients. And as you know, ASV handles your example as

Re: [svg-developers] Dynamically create g in svg

2010-11-10 Thread ddailey
The example at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/drag.svg may help. There are objects of different complexity including clipPaths and groups that are draggable. The clipPaths are working appropriately to my thinking in Opera and IE/ASV but not in FF4b or WebKit (though I haven't tried

Re: [svg-developers] canonical expressions -- part 2: A challenge: accessbility and symbols of the public domain (wikipedia)

2010-11-07 Thread ddailey
Challenge: come up with better symbols for signifying public domain or copyright free. Begin here http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/pd3.svg . Look at the source code and then see what you think. I'll get back to that example toward the end of this message. As a bit of searching in Google

Re: [svg-developers] canonical expressions -- part 3: more efficient ways of packing text into rectangles

2010-11-07 Thread ddailey
: if we relax the rules of English orthography just a bit, so that instead of writing from left to write, we write from left to right, or downward, or inward (by allowing glyphs to be inside one another) , can we write legibly in less space? http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/canonical.svg

Re: [svg-developers] A less known side of SVG

2010-11-06 Thread ddailey
Thanks JC, The page renders very nicely in Opera as well. I had looked at this link before when you answered a question I asked here about displaying Unicode in SVG, and have a note to myself to study it more carefully when time lets me. But it is good to share and recast that information

Re: [svg-developers] SVG vs. Canvas

2010-10-29 Thread ddailey
Hi Patrick, Your presentation looked good to me. I think I'll ask all my students to take a look too as the basic differences between the two are a bit tricky to understand and I think you nailed it quite well. I found some of the text examples early in the talk hard to read on my relatively

[svg-developers] highway construction

2010-10-25 Thread ddailey
In this example: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/notknot2.svg I see the following results: IE/ASV and FF4 agree with me about the timing... Opera seems to synchronize the declarative animation differently between the application of the mask and the vehicles... Safari and Chrome do not

Re: [svg-developers] Re: setting an event handler

2010-10-24 Thread ddailey
: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:26 PM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: setting an event handler --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddai...@... wrote: Hi folks, I've always used something like O.setAttribute(onclick,add(evt)) to attach an event handler in SVG

Re: [svg-developers] Re: setting an event handler

2010-10-24 Thread ddailey
: [svg-developers] Re: setting an event handler ddailey schrieb am 23.10.2010 18:29: I've always used something like O.setAttribute(onclick,add(evt)) to attach an event handler in SVG. But someone told me recently that O.addEventListener(click, function(evt){add(evt

[svg-developers] getTotalLength and getPointAtLength

2010-10-24 Thread ddailey
Two quick and easy questions: 1. Where in the SVG 1.1 spec are these two topics (getTotalLength and getPointAtLength) discussed. I tried searching and couldn't find 'em. 2. If a path is subjected to a transform then do these methods reflect the path before or after the transform? ASV says after

[svg-developers] setting an event handler

2010-10-23 Thread ddailey
Hi folks, I've always used something like O.setAttribute(onclick,add(evt)) to attach an event handler in SVG. But someone told me recently that O.addEventListener(click, function(evt){add(evt)}, false) is actually preferrable. (The person who told me this obviously has young

[svg-developers] Unicode and SVG

2010-10-21 Thread ddailey
Hi folks, I'm currently teaching a course with a lot of international students and a few have complained about not being able to get special characters (as with umlauts and the like) to display well in SVG. I haven't played with the issue much, though we've seen fairly sizable variation in

Re: [svg-developers] How to convert svg rect to path

2010-10-21 Thread ddailey
Well, it's not real easy to explain but I'd suggest reading the parts of the C and A subcommands of path at http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html#path The inkscape code seems to be an approximation to what it really is. What I think a rounded rect really is a path that

Re: [svg-developers] explaining setAttribute, setAttributeNS and carburetors

2010-10-17 Thread ddailey
Jacob, Doug and Wade, Thanks for your assistance here. It definitely helps! regards David - Original Message - From: Jacob Beard To: svg-developers Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [svg-developers] explaining setAttribute, setAttributeNS and carburetors

[svg-developers] explaining setAttribute, setAttributeNS and carburetors

2010-10-16 Thread ddailey
I don't really understand carburetors, but I have a vague idea that they control the richness of the fuel mixture so as to calibrate the rate of combustion in the engine -- for me, the following issue is similar. Perhaps you can help. I'm trying to explain how to do a wee bit of DOM scripting

Re: [svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears

2010-10-13 Thread ddailey
version of a roller gear. To see a physical picture of one see: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/23791 All browsers work fine except IE. I haven't tested it with ASV. Enjoy! --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddai...@... wrote: Here are a couple of interesting examples

Re: [svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears

2010-10-12 Thread ddailey
Thanks Robert! I've gotten rid of the zeroes so that http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval4.svg now works well everywhere *but* Opera. To be balanced, here's another one that seems to work properly *only* in Opera: http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval8.svg Anyone who has used

[svg-developers] fun but buggy -- gears

2010-10-11 Thread ddailey
Here are a couple of interesting examples / difficult browser calisthenics: http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval3.svg and http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval4.svg The first works much as I think it should in Opera, Chrome and IE/ASV. FF4 runs only one of the gears. Safari screws

Re: [svg-developers] planetsvg.com down

2010-10-09 Thread ddailey
@yahoogroups.com Cc: ddailey ; Phil Archer Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [svg-developers] planetsvg.com down Hi, David- ddailey wrote (on 10/7/10 7:49 PM): There used to be a link on svg.org that talked about server configuration issues (mime types and the like

Re: [svg-developers] Best SVG Editor...!!

2010-10-09 Thread ddailey
The FA(q) question of the best editor sometimes means different things to different folks. Jacob hit the nail on the head for WYSIWYG /GUI editors. Inkscape and Illustrator push out a bit of gnarly pseudo-code that becomes a bit of a problem for scripting with it later, so SVG-Edit is better at

Re: [svg-developers] planetsvg.com down

2010-10-07 Thread ddailey
Hi Doug, There used to be a link on svg.org that talked about server configuration issues (mime types and the like). The SVG Primer pointed to it. Then it went away, so we found a place on Planet Svg that seemed to have even better information and redirected the pointer to that. But now, sigh,

[svg-developers] Tough on browsers

2010-10-07 Thread ddailey
The following document (example1) is a candidate for an acid test perhaps? It has an animated stop (using straight animation, rather than animateColor, on named colors) applied to a mask applied to an image. (I'm assuming this is legal by the spec since it works almost every where else,

[svg-developers] character to path data in SVG

2010-10-04 Thread ddailey
I just can't remember. I seem to recall a DOM interface or function in SVG that takes as input a character (i.e., a text string of length one) rendered in a given font-family and returns the path coordinates of the outline of that object. (something like w.toPath(ariel, 100) -- 0,0 50,100 100,0

Re: [svg-developers] Re: character to path data in SVG

2010-10-04 Thread ddailey
this functionality exposed at some point in the future so that web-based graphical editors (like SVG-edit) can convert SVG text to paths... Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoe...@... wrote: * ddailey wrote: I just can't remember. I seem to recall a DOM

Re: Ответ: [svg-developers] A pleasant surprise

2010-10-03 Thread ddailey
-developers] A pleasant surprise --- Вс, 3.10.10, ddailey ddai...@zoominternet.net пишет: От: ddailey ddai...@zoominternet.net Тема: [svg-developers] A pleasant surprise Кому: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Дата: Воскресенье, 3 октябрь 2010, 1:23 I was pleased to find that this example [1

[svg-developers] IE9 and ASV

2010-10-02 Thread ddailey
Hi I wonder if anyone has done any experimenting with IE9 and ASV. Certain features[1] in ASV are still more advanced than any other browser, leaving certain aspects of the SVG spec untestable among all these new-fangled browsers. (I'm hoping to put Windows 7 on one of my machines at the

[svg-developers] A pleasant surprise

2010-10-02 Thread ddailey
I was pleased to find that this example [1], of simulated cylindrical rotation, from [2] is now working in these browsers: IE/ASV Opera (9.5 or newer) FF (4.0 b) Safari (5.02) and Chrome (6.0) At the time of its creation just 2.5 years (and 0.5 dimensions) ago it only worked in two of these

Re: [svg-developers] Re: IE9 and ASV

2010-10-02 Thread ddailey
-in-ie9-close-but-should-try-harde - Original Message - From: jeff_schiller To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: IE9 and ASV Hi David, --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddai...@... wrote

Re: [svg-developers] Re: IE9 and ASV

2010-10-02 Thread ddailey
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: IE9 and ASV Hi David, --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddai...@... wrote: And until Windows 7 is widely deployed, for the 60% of the world using IE

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Including SVG in RSS

2010-10-01 Thread ddailey
I've been running into what seems like the same sort of issue in trying to put SVG content in Moodle pages. inline, object and iframe don't seem to work and embed has some troubles as well (including lack of fallback). I had forgotten about img, so will be interested in trying that. cheers

Re: [svg-developers] Re: animating gradients

2010-09-26 Thread ddailey
Nice Chaals! It would be fun if one could build all your gradient stops with one instance and a single replicate tag [1,2], of course ;) It might take a wee bit of an addendum to the spec (of course)! regards David [1]

Re: [svg-developers] Re: animating gradients

2010-09-26 Thread ddailey
Charles McCathieNevile wrote: It would be fun if one could build all your gradient stops with one instance and a single replicate tag [1,2], of course ;) Hmm. Maybe if I had the same animation, but started it at -1 -.8 -.6 etc it would work. Dunno if I can use a stop though... I

[svg-developers] an acid test for SMIL and meta-acid tests for acid tests

2010-09-26 Thread ddailey
[1] http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/groupuse.svg opera 10.62 : 237 Chrome 6.0 : 211 IE8/asv : 164 FF4.0b6 : 160 Safari 5.0.2 : 74 The above [1] represents a count (I did the counting as my 13 year old daughter watched a timer) of the number of actual screen

Re: [svg-developers] animating path data with SMIL

2010-09-21 Thread ddailey
Also take a look at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/SVGOpen2010/Polygons/polygons10.svg It is rather fun since it never does the same thing twice. Either Opera or IE/ASV is needed as the animations in FF4 don't yet seem to handle the d attribute in paths. cheers D - Original

Re: [svg-developers] animating gradients

2010-09-21 Thread ddailey
, but if anyone can think of a better approach, I'd be very interested to know. Thanks, Jake On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, ddailey ddai...@zoominternet.net wrote: Hi Jake, I've played some with what I think is the same thing you've been trying to do and haven't been completely satisfied

Re: [svg-developers] animating gradients

2010-09-20 Thread ddailey
Hi Jake, I've played some with what I think is the same thing you've been trying to do and haven't been completely satisfied with my results. Take a look at the first cluster of links at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/SVGOpen2008/edges_of_plausibility.htm In those I do something

Re: [svg-developers] SVG Open

2010-09-03 Thread ddailey
Hi Bruce, I'm sorry you missed it too since it was really interesting, energetic, informative, and fun. You would have liked it and you were missed. I think that the host, Paris Telecom (who did an extraordinary job by the way) and their associates will be posting audio, video and links

Re: [svg-developers] Image in symbol in pattern in path in SVG in Mozilla Firefox

2010-08-18 Thread ddailey
Hi Damian, I think, if I read your source code correctly, that you've found a more elegant solution to this problem than I had. Several years ago I posted a query here about how to do this without consuming large amounts of RAM. Maybe you've done that but I'm not sure. Let me explain. The

[svg-developers] appearance of feDisplacement in Opera and IE/ASV (and others)

2010-08-17 Thread ddailey
Running into various troubles [1,2] with feDisplacement for an upcoming presentation, I tried to simplify down to bare bones: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/newstuff/gradientFilter1.svg Interestingly FF4 and Safari do not seem to attempt the displacement, while Chrome tries it

Re: [svg-developers] Filter replacing colors selectively

2010-08-15 Thread ddailey
I don't know about using filters as a part of CSS like that (nor in which browsers it would work), but take a look at http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html#filters Specifically, both feColorMatrix and feComponentTransfer allow surgery on ranges of colors. I can't right now

[svg-developers] funny cross-browser issue involving top

2010-08-11 Thread ddailey
An svg document is included in an HTML document using object Inside the HTML is a textarea (it has id=t, and I also tried name=t and putting it inside a form with id and/or name f). The SVG contains a script which attempt to scribble into the HTML text area using top.f.t.value=mystring or

Re: [svg-developers] Determining viewport size

2010-08-10 Thread ddailey
Hi Helder, When you figure it out, please let me know (or better yet add it somewhere in http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html :) I've just typically been lazy and drawn a rect width=100% height=100% x=0% y=0% fill=none / and then measured it using getBBox, but that's

Re: [svg-developers] HOWTO: opposite clip

2010-07-31 Thread ddailey
Interesting question. It seems so natural that I wondered if I hadn't missed a flag in the definition of the clip-path attribute that might not do exactly that, but if it is there I don't see it. But your reason for not using a mask isn't clear. Last I checked, this example works just fine in

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Flash to SVG

2008-12-24 Thread ddailey
I seem to recall that a year or so ago some of the folks from Sketsa (I think) were talking about making an animation editor built into their tool. I may be wrong, but I remember sharing some concepts with them about how to change the projection of the 4D animation space-time into the UI

Re: [svg-developers] Tubefy

2008-12-23 Thread ddailey
This link is really cool! Thanks for posting it! If anyone didn't get a chance to look, please do! David - Original Message - From: owlgems To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: [svg-developers] Tubefy Hi to all First

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Stroke width inside the shape -- Bug in Opera 9.61 and IE/ASV ???

2008-12-22 Thread ddailey
Hi Helder, Somehow this posting (which I tried to post several days ago) only showed up this week -- curious. So now there are two threads on the same topic, sorry! Yes, it does set up a circular reference. Robert Longson observed such last week. It seemed like it might provide an easy

Re: [svg-developers] Please can any one help me ,how to fill color at particular point on image using svg

2008-12-17 Thread ddailey
Well, the filling of a region of contiguous pixels from one point, as with the paint bucket in MacPaint and its descendents (including Photoshop), is more of a bitmapped concept than a vector graphics concept. One does not really have access to pixels in SVG (though there are certainly times at

Re: [svg-developers] Please can any one help me ,how to fill color at particular point on image using svg

2008-12-17 Thread ddailey
help how shoud i reduce time. thanks and regards P.Chandra Shaker Reddy From: ddailey ddai...@zoominternet.net To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:30:37 PM Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Please can any one

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Stroke width inside the shape -- Bug in Opera and IE??

2008-12-17 Thread ddailey
Apologies if this message appears here more than once -- I have had some trouble with some of my postings to this group recently - I saw Frank's suggestion (below) and thought yes of course! How straightforward. So I thought I'd check it out to make sure it worked the way we'd

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Converting JPG files to SVG

2008-12-16 Thread ddailey
Hi Andrew a_matseevsky wrote: It is not the first time when I'm trying to explain: there is no way to create perfect raster to vector converter (conversion from JPG to SVG is in fact this op) without advanced gradient fills support. Linear, radial and meshes-based methods are too primitive.

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source

2008-12-16 Thread ddailey
Kenneth Nellis wrote: In my experiment, I removed ASV and then relaunched Safari to see what worked. SMIL didn't. I reinstalled ASV and SMIL worked again. So, I conclude that Safari doesn't do SMIL. Or is something else going on That is true. Safari does not yet support SMIL. It seems to be on

Re: [svg-developers] Stroke width inside the shape

2008-12-11 Thread ddailey
:25 AM Subject: Re : [svg-developers] Stroke width inside the shape That's exactly what I'm trying to do (a map with adjacent regions)... Thanks for the hint, I'm going to look at the superPath. Julie De : ddailey ddai...@zoominternet.net À : svg

Re: [svg-developers] Stroke width inside the shape

2008-12-10 Thread ddailey
The only way that I can think of would be to create an identical object that would be centered at the same locus, but a wee bit bigger (like scaled by 1+strokewidth/object'sDiameter) and have this object filled with none. That object could then be used to mask the original object keeping the

Re: [svg-developers] Safari Problem

2008-12-09 Thread ddailey
I'm able to get the shapes overlaid on top of the image to respond (by turning pink and displaying text) to mouseclicks just fine in Safari 3.2 for windows. The floor buttons seem to change the visible floor plan as well. It seems to have the same behavior in Opera, FF and IE/ASV so am not

[svg-developers] Opera 10 alpha

2008-12-08 Thread ddailey
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/40472/140/ excerpts from the article: Opera 10 alpha unveiled: Fully web compliant, 30% faster Also new: Opacity modifications through RGB and HSLA for setting the opacity of any web page element, the selectors API, and improvements in scalable vector

[svg-developers] SMIL 3.0 released

2008-12-08 Thread ddailey
W3C's announcement: http://www.w3.org/2008/12/smil3-pressrelease.html Press coverage: Wall Street Journal: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/SMIL-30-Advances-Standard-Synchronized/story.aspx?guid=%7BA0336409-96B2-4286-A68F-F8B23C040BA3%7D and also http://in.sys-con.com/node/764284

Re: [svg-developers] onmousedown() and onclick() at the same time

2008-12-03 Thread ddailey
Hi Julie, I think what is happening when you put an alert in the middle of it all is this: first the onmousedown is received, evt.type is then mousedown next an alert fires then to get rid of the alert the user has to move the mouse off of the group (which received the mousedown) so the click

Re: [svg-developers] Click through the transparent part of an SVG element

2008-11-28 Thread ddailey
I was nervous about two things in your example, and unfortunately only had a chance to change both, but in ways that seemed to make things work in Opera, FF, Safari and IE/ASV: 1. I got rid of the HTML altogether -- so that the appendChild statements were going directly into the root of the

Re: [svg-developers] Inverted mask?

2008-11-22 Thread ddailey
I'm not sure if I follow, so let's start with an example: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/carveholes.svg In this, clicking in the blue rectangle cuts holes in it so we can see what is behind. What doesn't happen here is that the holes do not then block the addition of new holes (in

Re: [svg-developers] Generate *non-overlapping* circles?

2008-11-18 Thread ddailey
Hi Steve, Looking at the picture you've provided suggests to me the following approach: a) generate a Voronoi diagram [1] (I think this can be done quickly, i.e. in less than O(n^2) ) on a random set of n points; though I've never actually done it -- maybe somebody knows of a link to an SVG

Re: [svg-developers] logarithmic scale in svg

2008-10-30 Thread ddailey
Well take a look at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/newstuff/coords.svg This is linear by linear generated with JavaScript. To make it log by linear, I'd probably just decide on a set of points: [.01,.1, 1, 10, 100, 1000, 1] that would represent the range, then generate the

Re: [svg-developers] Re: midpoint(s) of a Bezier curve

2008-10-29 Thread ddailey
. Regards Frank --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen that some folks who pay attention to this list, also happen to be relatively comfortable with the math of Bezier curves. Suppose we have a path, P (involving a cubic Bezier : d=M x y

Re: [svg-developers] Re: other things you might not have the time for

2008-10-27 Thread ddailey
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will hope Frank finds the time to do the things he's talking about -- they all sound quite worthwhile. I, on the other hand, have been playing a bit more: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg

[svg-developers] other things you might not have the time for

2008-10-26 Thread ddailey
I will hope Frank finds the time to do the things he's talking about -- they all sound quite worthwhile. I, on the other hand, have been playing a bit more: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/followpath6.svg You'll need SMIL support and JavaScript in your SVG to see it, but it's only

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