Re: [Talk-GB] Cameras?

2008-09-08 Thread Chris Hill
Have you tried joining your local Freecycle http://www.freecycle.org/ group and asking if anyone has a camera? If you mention OSM that spreads the word to a wider audience too. Cheers, Chris Ed Loach wrote: I'd like a cheap digital camera to use when I'm out noting things for mapping

Re: [Talk-GB] StreetWire

2008-12-06 Thread Chris Hill
It does, but it has the 'Powered by Google' on the map, it has a Google terms of use on it and it will not zoom out. This is not good: use OSM's lovely map, but credit Google with it! cheers, Chris From: 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Talk GB

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping the unloved and unwashed

2008-12-15 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 15 Dec 2008, at 18:20, matthew-...@newtoncomputing.co.uk wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:14:53PM +, Peter Miller wrote: This list is called 'talk-GB' but in the description it is described as General discussion for UK users

[Talk-GB] Announcement: Hull completed

2008-12-24 Thread Chris Hill
I would like to announce that the fine city of Kingston Upon Hull (Hull to its friends and 'Ull to its locals) has all its public roads and many of its amenities completed. Almost all of the city was mapped by Jean and me by driving or walking around it. We have taken about 10,000 photos (my

Re: [Talk-GB] Announcement: Hull completed

2008-12-25 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Loach wrote: I thought that club was called I moved house to map more. [I'm sure someone will come up with a better name.] I discovered Harlow had high res Yahoo imagery and have started tracing houses? (Hint) Ed I wish there was better imagery for this area, though drawing

[Talk-GB] [OT] Coordinates

2009-01-18 Thread Chris Hill
A friend of mine has received a planning application with some strange coordinates in it. The location is described by the local council as: 504165 433891. He asked me about it and it doesn't make sense to me. I estimate the OSGB ref as TA 030322 and the lon/lat as: -0.443913, 53.77588.

Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-thenorth] Mapping the unloved and unwashed

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Hill
Brian Quinion wrote: Should we investigate buying aerial photography for some of these un-loved places which would allow us the capture the base road structure and land-usage prior to any actual visit and speed things up a lot? The photography that Mikel and eye have been sorting out for Gaza

Re: [Talk-GB] Free National Grid Vector Layers for gas and electricity?

2009-03-13 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: A nice friendly person in the GIS business has just pointed this site out to me. They described it as a 'free' national grid vector layers and it certainly looks as though one can download shape files for gas pipes, electricity lines and the like. I am not sure what

Re: [Talk-GB] Free National Grid Vector Layers for gas and electricity?

2009-03-13 Thread Chris Hill
Ron Wellsted wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Hill wrote: Peter Miller wrote: A nice friendly person in the GIS business has just pointed this site out to me. They described it as a 'free' national grid vector layers and it certainly looks as though

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM UK publicity challenge

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Hill
I emailed him a few days ago about loading OSM maps into his Garmin and to be careful about trusting roads on maps along parts of the east coast because of erosion. Haven't heard from him. Cheers, Chris Richard Fairhurst wrote: So how do we get some more publicity for OSM in the UK?

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed field - what units should we use. etc

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Hill
I tag what I see. I see 30 which implies 30mph, so I tag 30mph. The units differentiate it from km/h. Another mapper in this area (East Yorkshire) has tagged some in km/h with 2dp. Ulf then went over all of these and stripped the decimals off. As I encounter them I change them to imperial

Re: [Talk-GB] Counties and coasts

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Hill
:45:55 +0100 From: Chris Hill chillly...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [Talk-GB] Counties and coasts To: Talk GB talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 4a3f8b13.20...@yahoo.co.uk I'm interested the relations of the boundaries for counties. I notice that some counties (and recently English Regions

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Boundaries progressing really well, however why is Hampshire, England not rendering?

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Hill
Not sure if this is the problem, but part of the boundary relation does not follow a boundary=administrative way, it follows a road. This is just west of Vernham Dean [1]. The boundary also follows the river Enbourne again without a way tagged boundary=administrative [2]. [1]

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Hill
The last time you brought this up it was pointed out that web sites have copyright on them and this is a problem for your plans. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can ignore it. Using copyright data without permission IS A SHOW-STOPPER. Please don't continue to ignore the

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread Chris Hill
In case you haven't seen it there is an addressing system which has thought this through [1] and seems to be used as the de facto standard. My personal experience is that it is a slow and tedious process which I haven't even finished for the village where I live but don't mention this to

[Talk-GB] More on coasts and counties

2009-07-07 Thread Chris Hill
[long-winded local info follows] I asked my local county for information on where the county ends at the coast and in the Humber estuary, using the FoI act. Their answer is interesting. Firstly, the county ends at the mean high water mark of the North sea. This is extended to the low water

Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] More on coasts and counties

2009-07-09 Thread Chris Hill
Should we ask Crown Estates for all the details rather than bothering some 100 local authorities? Good idea. I've emailed the Crown Estates - let's see what detail they will supply. Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-GB mailing list

[Talk-GB] Coastal boundaries

2009-07-10 Thread Chris Hill
I have had a reply from a chap at the Crown Estates to my FOI request about coastal boundaries. He confirms that coastal council boundaries are at the mean low water mark. Some councils lease some of the foreshore from Crown Estates, some from other landlords and some councils own the land

Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website

2009-07-12 Thread Chris Hill
If you use your browser's print option you get a full page (on landscape) map of the current zoom area. What else would you like to see? Cheers, Chris Daniel Glassey wrote: I don't think I expressed myself clearly in the lazyosm session.[1] I would like to see a simple 'Print' button or

Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] Re: Municipal boundaries

2009-07-15 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 15 Jul 2009, at 15:50, Chris Hill wrote: I asked the boundary commission recently for boundary data, though I didn't ask for it in the English rather than geographic form. their answer was that they define the boundaries but the OS draw them on behalf

Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] Re: Municipal boundaries

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Hill
I asked the Boundary Committee for boundary data and, as you might guess, they say they don't hold any boundary data of their own. All of their data is held by OS, so as usual we have the Crown Copyright argument. They also say that all their published information is subject to Crown

Re: [Talk-GB] Municipal boundaries

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Hill
David Earl wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Since this is a Freedom of Information Act request, and they have refused to supply me the requested information I'll ask the Office of the Information Commissioner for a ruling. Not expecting much, but you never know. Even if they did or do supply

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Reed wrote: Of the authorities I have managed to measure, the following all show more road mapped than the DfT believes exists: Having mapped every road in Hull (Kingston-upon-Hull since today is a Sunday), some are fairly new and may not appear on the DfT figures.

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Chris Hill
Frederik Ramm wrote: Interestingly I joined this list a while ago because I had got my hands on some admin boundary data for England and wanted to know if it was any good (the answer was no). I then forgot to unsubscribe. I'm still planning to extend the Geofabrik excerpts to cover all

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Boundaries - update

2009-07-28 Thread Chris Hill
Why is this 'great'? What is the point of boundary=ceremonial? If you change a boundary=administrative to boundary=ceremonial what does this do except break existing renders and tools? If you *add* boundary=ceremonial then this is available for those who want it and leave the existing

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-08-11 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Reed wrote: Interesting point from Paul (southglos) about slip roads. Ive just worked the numbers slightly differently and he seems to be right. Adding up the total length of motorways in England according to DfT it comes to 6,021km. My total from OSM for England =

Re: [Talk-GB] Public Rights of Way

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Hill
I suggest you talk to them - it's a good idea for both parties. Cheers, Chris Jason Cunningham wrote: Has there been any contact in the past with ramblers groups to help mapping of footpaths in the countryside? We arrange mapping parties but often that involves preaching to converted. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Public Rights of Way

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Hill
Glenn Proctor wrote: Following on from this, am I correct in assuming that the only definitive source of mapping information about public rights of way is the OS? It seems ludicrous that *public* rights of way are effectively copyrighted in this manner. I suppose it's analagous to the issue

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Hill
I have researched boundaries of the English counties and unitary authorities. it seems that generally they follow the mean low water mark. Some of the land is owned by the council, some by private owners but often by the Crown Estates and leased to the council. By using the low water mark the

Re: [Talk-GB] English chapter

2009-08-18 Thread Chris Hill
What is the point of local chapters in England? We don't have language conversion issues, currency issues or time zone issues. Cheers, Chris David Earl wrote: I put a proposal on the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/Proposed_Chapters for a central

Re: [Talk-GB] English chapter

2009-08-18 Thread Chris Hill
Nick Whitelegg wrote: What is the point of local chapters in England? We don't have language conversion issues, currency issues or time zone issues. Cheers, Chris One need would be to organise and coordinate local mapping. For instance, in my area

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Hill
water mark. Bogus Zaba wrote: I have had confirmation from the Local Government Boundary Commission for Wales who agree with the view below from Chris Hill. They say : "...in general the seaward extent of a local authority is the low water mark as defined by Ordnance Survey. The exce

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-23 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 22 Aug 2009, at 12:03, Chris Hill wrote: Well I'm pleased that they agree with me, but I'm not the oracle! This is another source quoting the same general information. Do the Scottish and Northern Irish counties generally extend to the low water mark

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-23 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 23 Aug 2009, at 15:50, Chris Hill wrote: Peter Miller wrote: On 22 Aug 2009, at 12:03, Chris Hill wrote: Well I'm pleased that they agree with me, but I'm not the oracle! This is another source quoting

Re: [Talk-GB] Uk Missing Major Roads.

2009-08-27 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Childs wrote: 2009/8/26 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:08, Chris Hill wrote: The orange (maybe brownish) roads can be secondary, tertiary or unclassified. I've compared the NPE roads to some roads that I know well and they cover what I would

[Talk-GB] Tenfoot

2009-08-28 Thread Chris Hill
In many towns and cities in the UK there are small ways behind rows of houses. In my part of the world (Yorkshire) we know them as a tenfoot (they are traditionally 10 feet wide). I have not mapped many - they often seem private to the houses, but today I did follow a couple. I wonder how

Re: [Talk-GB] Aerial Photography

2009-09-14 Thread Chris Hill
I used to hold a pilot's licence and I did some work photographing archaeological sites. Photos taken pointing sideways are much harder to work with than photos pointing straight down. Any kind of rectification adds unwanted artifacts. I used to make high bank angle turns (60' bank angle)

Re: [Talk-GB] Aerial Photography

2009-09-14 Thread Chris Hill
Avon seem to be taken at an angle-how do people find them for mapping from? 2009/9/14 Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net I used to hold a pilot's licence and I did some work photographing archaeological sites. Photos taken pointing

Re: [Talk-GB] Locating Postboxes article Guardian

2009-09-17 Thread Chris Hill
Ciarán Mooney wrote: Hi, Also I've spoken to Draco in the past, and his website does not sync with OSM. He has tried to get help with a mass import but the discussion was rat-holed due to supposed problem deriving data from Royal Mails postbox list.

Re: [Talk-GB] Verticality metre, was: Re: OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Chris Hill
Matt Williams wrote: 2009/9/18 Matt Williams li...@milliams.com: 2009/9/18 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:44, John McKerrell wrote: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:27, Matt Williams wrote: A random selection of vertical(ish) photos: 113-124 (all of

Re: [Talk-GB] OS and their Aerial mapping featured (advertised) onBBC's Countryfile

2009-10-03 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 3 Oct 2009, at 13:37, Jason Cunningham wrote: Ordnance Survey and their aerial mapping feature (7min) in last weeks episode of Countryfile (BBC1). It comes across as a long advert for the Ordnance Survey and I wish the BBC had been impartial. Agreed. I suggest

Re: [Talk-GB] Automating email alerts of mapping errors.

2009-10-25 Thread Chris Hill
Chris Andrew wrote: Hi, all. I was just thinking about the 'Keep Right' website that shows mapping errors on OSM and also, the ability to highlight roads that do not have names. Having this information available to us, do we have the capability to run a report/ script against this data,

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Loach wrote: As has been mentioned before, the process of hunting down an elusive postbox often has the benefit of some other missing feature getting mapped as well, just because you happen to be in the neighbourhood. I'd agree with that (and can also think of two adjacent

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel areaof London?

2009-11-11 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: Can I suggest that we 'inform' them of out intentions to use the logo unless we are told 'no' together and a sample of what it would look like and our interpretation of copyright law. We should avoid 'asking' them as such and then needing a positive 'yes' from them. I

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN import status - update and question

2009-11-11 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: At a rough count we have now have NaPTAN imported for about 1/3 of GB (41 imported, 7 requesting an import and 90 that have not requested one).[1] We have no authorities where someone as blocked an import any more - one person did request a 'wait and see' on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Stratford imagery

2009-12-10 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: I was wondering if 'type approval' for powered hang-gliders allows for bolt-on vertical cameras. Thinking about it I am going to worry a bit more about hang glider pilots dropping phones and cameras etc next time they are wandering about overhead! A powered

Re: [Talk-GB] Kent County Council Highways Gazetteer

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Hill
Colin Smale wrote: Would it be OK to derive tagging in this way? Should we get explicit permission from KCC first? Anyone got any experience with this, or example emails for this kind of request? I'd certainly ask permission first. The document will be copyright even if it doesn't bear

Re: [Talk-GB] OS 1:25K tracing

2010-01-22 Thread Chris Hill
Steve Hill wrote: Since the out of copyright 1:25K maps appeared, there has been rather a lot of tracing going on. On the whole, I think the availability of this data is good. However, I have noticed that around the Gower peninsula, quite a few nonexistent roads, etc. have appeared and

Re: [Talk-GB] What has happened to Relation 2204 (ncn 4)?

2010-02-27 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Loach wrote: I use Potlatch where you get a warning. is there not a similar procedure in JOSM? I think there is an issue with JOSM where if you download the relation, then download the ways that make that relation, it isn't aware of other relations those ways are in. That means if

Re: [Talk-GB] rendering locks

2010-02-28 Thread Chris Hill
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Steve Chilton wrote: two nodes with waterway=lock_gate at either end of a way tagged waterway=canal;lock=yes and single node with waterway=lock OR lock=yes (with lock-gates not mapped) These are definitely sensible. (I have a preference for the

Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-transit] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

2010-03-22 Thread Chris Hill
Christoph Böhme wrote: I found the time (or rather an easier solution to the problem): NOVAM now uses the XAPI servers to retrieve the bus stop data. So, it should be up-to-date again and hopefully in the future as well :-) Good news, I have missed it. Cheers, Chris

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Chris Hill
Tim François wrote: So the solution is to just leave it blank? Maybe the soution is to encourage people to treat OSM as an outdoor sport, gathering GPS tracks and LOTS of extra data that no one else's maps have, rather than an armchair hobby copying other people's maps. Cheers, Chris P.S.

Re: [Talk-GB] Driving Test routes

2010-04-13 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Loach wrote: I know there are people out there with time on their hands, just itching to find more uses for OSM. We've bus route maps, cycling route maps, and even in the West Midlands a gritting routes map. Today I stumbled across the fact that driving test routes are on the DSA website

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Boundaries

2010-04-19 Thread Chris Hill
Tom Hughes wrote: On 19/04/10 17:18, Chris Hill wrote: Each boundary needs to share nodes with adjacent ones. County and district boundaries will also need to share nodes, so the process of loading them individually might be quite tedious, and would involve dealing with any existing

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Boundaries

2010-04-19 Thread Chris Hill
To the list too :) Tom Hughes wrote: On 19/04/10 17:18, Chris Hill wrote: Each boundary needs to share nodes with adjacent ones. County and district boundaries will also need to share nodes, so the process of loading them individually might be quite tedious, and would involve dealing

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Boundaries

2010-04-19 Thread Chris Hill
John Robert Peterson wrote: There is also the quite high level question of what is the correct position for these boundaries: if a boundary follows a river, and the river has changed course by a few meters since this boundary was established, does the boundary move with it, or does it stay

Re: [Talk-GB] Matching OS Locator with OSM data

2010-04-28 Thread Chris Hill
Tim François wrote: I've noticed that sometimes there are discrepancies even between OS data. For example, there is a VAN DIEMENS LANE here in Bath. Here are three sources of names: OSM name: VAN DIEMENS LANE OS StreetView name: VAN DIEMENS LANE OS Locator name: VAN DIEMEN'S LANE So the

[Talk-GB] VectorMap District oddities

2010-04-29 Thread Chris Hill
I've just opened the VectorMap District from OS for my local area. I loaded the Road-Line and was dismayed to see substantial developments in the area build over the last 10 years were missing. I then loaded the Settlement_Area and the new developments appeared with the spaces for the roads.

Re: [Talk-GB] State of play of OS Vector data

2010-05-02 Thread Chris Hill
Seventy 7 wrote: Can someone tell us what's happening with the latest release of OS data please? When streetview came out there were quite a few emails about tiles being rendered for tracing etc but this time it's all been very quiet! I presume someone somewhere is doing the vector data,

Re: [Talk-GB] State of play of OS Vector data

2010-05-02 Thread Chris Hill
the renderers to show them in a lighter colour until someone checks it and takes the 'verified=no' tag off? This could alleviate the concerns that people had that users will not survey an area if it looks complete on the map? Regards Graham. On 2 May 2010 13:14, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net

Re: [Talk-GB] Ward Boundaries

2010-05-04 Thread Chris Hill
James Rutter wrote: ...been tidying up the Surrey Heath district boundary now that we can do what we want with Boundaryline. Anyone got any advice for ward boundaries...can't find much at all on the wiki? What's the admin_level for ward or has it not been defined yet? What's the deal with

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping progress in Surrey Heath

2010-05-10 Thread Chris Hill
Graeme Wilford wrote: The combination of high-res aerial imagery and OS StreetView data is very powerful indeed. For the sake of walkers and cyclists, I'd encourage others to tackle Surrey's waterways. The road network is fairly sane but the (typically NPE-derived) water network makes a

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OS Shapefiles

2010-05-11 Thread Chris Hill
, it would be helpful if someone else could provide some help with using Python for the 99% that think its a snake. Cheers, Jason On 11 May 2010 16:53, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net wrote: I've written up the way I have used OS shapefiles in the wiki http

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OS Shapefiles

2010-05-11 Thread Chris Hill
ogr2ogr command line has the output and input files around the wrong way (gdal 1.7.2). Kevin On 11 May 2010 18:28, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net wrote: Tim Francois wrote: Chris Any chance of providing some command snippets for using gdal's

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Chris Hill
Mike Harris wrote: Richard - good thought - I hadn't thought about using a designation tag without a highway tag to avoid the rendering - it might solve my problem of unwalkable public rights of way in forests around here. Contact your local council. They have a legal duty to enforce

Re: [Talk-GB] Offsets between OS and OSM data (was Building with mapseg)

2010-05-30 Thread Chris Hill
I believe the StreetView tiles are offset south(ish) by a few metres in East Yorkshire too. Reprojected shape files line up well with surveyed data. I have traced a few buildings from StreetView but I've stopped until I had worked out what was wrong. Now given other people's comments I do

[Talk-GB] - Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO

2010-06-01 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: We have created a map layer for Potlatch showing OS Locator names which are not in the nearby OSM data in a nice visual way. Details in our blog post of the subject. http://itoworld.blogspot.com/2010/05/os-locator-validation-mapping-for-uk.html To access the tiles

Re: [Talk-GB] - Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO

2010-06-01 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: On 1 Jun 2010, at 15:39, Chris Hill wrote: Peter Miller wrote: We have created a map layer for Potlatch showing OS Locator names which are not in the nearby OSM data in a nice visual way. Details in our blog post of the subject. http://itoworld.blogspot.com/2010/05

Re: [Talk-GB] - Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO

2010-06-02 Thread Chris Hill
Andy Allan wrote: I believe we need to track these false positives. If Ipswich is any guide, and there is about a dozen errors per town, then there is going to come a point where we are all repeatedly examining the same false positives trying to track down the remaining few actual mistakes in

Re: [Talk-GB] Footpath tagging and OS OpenData

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Hill
Phil Endecott wrote: A challenge that I hope you can help me with is finding the right rules to convert from OSM tag combinations to OS-lookalike path rendering styles, i.e. footpath, bridleway, byway, permissive path, permissive bridleway, long-distance path, path, track. There are also

Re: [Talk-GB] Worrying Edits in Southampton

2010-06-12 Thread Chris Hill
Greg Auger wrote: For instance this McDonald's was moved to a completely different location: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/345112185/history Other ways have removed tags: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/22800339/history It seems to me we should revert all of mem0709's

[Talk-GB] Comparing OS data

2010-06-12 Thread Chris Hill
I have found ITO World's layer of name anomalies rather useful, but I could only see it in an editor, so I put together a comparison page, using the techniques from the sautter.com transparent map. http://oscompare.raggedred.net The slider (top right) alters the transparency of the layer. I've

[Talk-GB] Comparing OS data

2010-06-12 Thread Chris Hill
I have found ITO World's layer of name anomalies rather useful, but I could only see it in an editor, so I put together a comparison page, using the techniques from the sautter.com transparent map. http://oscompare.raggedred.net The slider (top right) alters the transparency of the layer. I've

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-06-13 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Avis wrote: Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@... writes: I can easily understand that apostrophes and the name bypass are annoying, however I think there is an opportunity here. For example, bypass or by-pass. This highlights an inconstancy in the OS data, which will be useful

Re: [Talk-GB] Comparing OS data

2010-06-15 Thread Chris Hill
Nick Whitelegg wrote: I have found ITO World's layer of name anomalies rather useful, but I could only see it in an editor, so I put together a comparison page, using the techniques from the sautter.com transparent map.

Re: [Talk-GB] A newbie question - 'What are you doing ?'

2010-07-16 Thread Chris Hill
Iain Simpson wrote: I've just started with OSM in Stafford (52.81, -2.13) and am starting by surveying my local suburb - nearly blank on the map. Yesterday I was walking down a nearby lane with my GPS - by a private residential caravan park - when the owner(?) came out and asked, quite

Re: [Talk-GB] Yet more musical chairs updates.

2010-08-09 Thread Chris Hill
The alternative way of looking at the comparison Musical Chairs displays is to look at the ITO layer over a standard Mapnik or OSMARender layer. ITO only show the OSL comparisons that do not match OSM, so all of things Musical Chairs shows as green boxes are not shown. If this is what you

Re: [Talk-GB] Power Lines

2010-08-09 Thread Chris Hill
Graham Jones wrote: Hi All, I see that someone has been busy importing Power Lines from OS OpenData in my part of the world http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.6341lon=-1.2238zoom=14layers=M. I wondered how it was done, and if they were thinking of doing woodlands too, because we have lots

Re: [Talk-GB] Power Lines

2010-08-09 Thread Chris Hill
Graham Jones wrote: Thanks Chris, The wiki page gives nice instructions on how to convert the shapefile content into OSM format, but it is the next stage I am wondering about - how do you get that into OSM without risking messing something up. The scripts create a file intended to load into

Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2%

2010-08-17 Thread Chris Hill
Shane Reynolds wrote: Hi, I am the developer who works on a number of products including OSM Analysis for ITO. I am slightly confused about making the OS Locator box a dashed box if the not:name tag is present. When we do the processing if any street is found with the not:name tag matching

Re: [Talk-GB] apostrophe's WAS The last 2%

2010-08-17 Thread Chris Hill
David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Shane Reynolds shane...@gmail.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2% Hi, I am the developer who works on a number of products including OSM Analysis for ITO. I am

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-18 Thread Chris Hill
David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Shane Reynolds shane...@gmail.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2% Hi, I am the developer who works on a number of products including OSM Analysis for ITO. I am

Re: [Talk-GB] Dorset/Wilts county boundary wrong...is there adefinitive source?

2010-09-08 Thread Chris Hill
Steve Doerr wrote: *From:* Ed Loach mailto:e...@loach.me.uk *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:46 PM *To:* 'Steve Doerr' mailto:steve.do...@blueyonder.co.uk ; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* RE: [Talk-GB] Dorset/Wilts county boundary wrong...is there

Re: [Talk-GB] Coastline Tidal Positions

2010-09-16 Thread Chris Hill
Craig Loftus wrote: Which is more accurate: the OS Streetview data that shows MHW (spring, I assume) or the PGS data? I haven't used it for coast lines, but doesn't OS Vector District include the high water mark? This would be the most 'accurate', although not necessarily the most

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-11-05 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Avis wrote: Kevin Peat ke...@... writes: http://oscompare.raggedred.net/?zoom=15lat=50.72407lon=-3.52609layers=B0TF Three-quarters of the differences reported here are in the presence or absence of a single apostrophe. This masks the more important discrepancies and makes the report

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-11-06 Thread Chris Hill
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Ed Avis wrote: Sure (if you accept that the street sign put up by the council is more authoritative than the Ordnance Survey's database, which actually I doubt). A quick glance at the local OS map shows me a street name that anyone in the town would know was

[Talk-GB] Address list

2010-12-03 Thread Chris Hill
A new national Address list is to be created for England Wales. http://www.communities.gov.uk/news/newsroom/1786564 I suggest we lobby the Minister (Eric Pickles) and the Office of Fair Trading to get the list released under the Government's new Open Data licence. Maybe Sir Tim B-L would

Re: [Talk-GB] Address list

2010-12-03 Thread Chris Hill
On 03/12/10 12:22, Tom Hughes wrote: On 03/12/10 12:11, Chris Hill wrote: A new national Address list is to be created for England Wales. http://www.communities.gov.uk/news/newsroom/1786564 I suggest we lobby the Minister (Eric Pickles) and the Office of Fair Trading to get the list

Re: [Talk-GB] Administrative Borders

2011-01-20 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/01/11 11:18, Brian Prangle wrote: Is anyone working on importing the boundaries from the shape file available from OS OpenData? Does it have ward level boundaries for major cities? I have imported parish boundaries and the county boundary in my local area. It is hard work because they

[Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-20 Thread Chris Hill
Now that people are tracing buildings from Bing etc addressing is getting more widespread, but one awkward area is postcodes. The Open data that OS released last year included the Code Point Open dataset which has the location of postcode centroids. These can help with adding postcodes to

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/01/11 23:09, Richard Bullock wrote: Please do not just add the centroid to the map. I don't see the value of that. I am interested in the experience people gain from using this data, for example to add postcodes to an address such as addr:postcode. I've added a few addr:postcode to my

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread Chris Hill
On 21/01/11 09:51, Kevin Peat wrote: Hello Chris, I was wondering why you don't see any value in just adding the postcode centroids to the map? There are probably 25000+ buildings in my area so it isn't feasible for me to add them all and their addresses in less than a lifetime whereas

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread Chris Hill
On 21/01/11 12:18, Kevin Peat wrote: Chris, I'll go with the flow on this, there isn't much point adding stuff to the db where there isn't a consensus. My postcode area is TQ so if you could add this to the layer that would be great, it would be useful for tagging buildings anyway. Kevin

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

2011-02-03 Thread Chris Hill
On 03/02/11 11:04, Peter Miller wrote: Fyi, ITO will soon have to give the OS £13,500 for another's years use of their ITN dataset and then additional usage and printing fees during the year. As such I really want to get to the point where we can say 'no thanks'! As I suspected, the real

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Chris Hill
On 15/02/11 16:42, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM wrote: I did do a little experiment some time ago (but you do need postcodes assigned to buildings): http://www.flickr.com/photos/sk53_osm/5333098864 I was going to write up some more but Chris Hill http://chris-osm.blogspot.com/2011/01/using-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Address information in MapDust bugs

2011-02-24 Thread Chris Hill
On 24/02/11 13:14, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM wrote: Recently, I have noticed a number of MapDust bugs which contain a postcode sector and, apparently, a range of housenumbers (e.g., Southdale Dr 40-98, NG4 1, GB for http://www.mapdust.com/detail/142061). There is no postcode or address

Re: [Talk-GB] OS and OSM

2011-03-11 Thread Chris Hill
at Blackadder's Society of Cartographers talk on Why OSM won't be bulk importing OS OpenData and am aware of the work Chris Hill has done on admin boundaries etc. Obviously also aware of the ITO work with OS Locator and what people have done with that. There was work on importing detailed water features

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-16 Thread Chris Hill
On 16/03/11 19:51, Matt Williams wrote: Greetings all, For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the Royal Mail's postcode/address finder (you know, the one with the ~5 queries a day limit without an account) [1] but based entirely on data in the OSM database. You can

[Talk-GB] Codepoint postcode layers

2011-03-22 Thread Chris Hill
I have just discovered that a new version of the OpenData CodePoint was released in February, so I have updated the layer for looking up postcodes in the editors. I have decided to force the layers to display from zoom 16 onwards which is one zoom higher than before. If that causes anyone a

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-03 Thread Chris Hill
is not to be undertaken lightly. IIRC about 10% is wrong. The best data are for Hullwhere Chris Hill surveyed the lot. I have done only about 20% of Nottingham's NaPTAN stops and have a similar error rate. Unfortunately processing NaPTAN alongside primary surveying just didnt prove viable, but there are plenty

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