In reply to Nigel Dyer's message of Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:09:36 +:
Hi,
[snip]
Gamma rays are detected associated with a number of different aspects of
thunderstorms. As far 'conventional' lightning is concerned it seems to
be associated with initiation of the forks in the forked leader en
In reply to pagnu...@htdconnect.com's message of Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:25:19
-0500 (EST):
Hi,
[snip]
http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/larsen-electroweak-neutron-production-and-capture-in-lightning-dischargesans-meeting-san-diego-nov-2012
Lightning contains many high velocity electrons, which
LOL! I totally agree! Every time another set of those slides comes out, I
cringe at the thought of attempting to read them.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:01 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
He sure can fit a lot of words into one sentence...
Also, his powerpoint slide density matches
What they are missing is the orbiting energetic particle creating the
static lightning just like piantelli thinks it is orbiting hydrogen and not
an orbiting neutrino.
It is all in the orbit...on Earth many times we call them...rainbows.
Behold the beauty.
Also, with two great orbiting comets
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:53 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote
Also, with two great orbiting comets on the way get your ice pick.
And a good single malt.
That too!
On Monday, November 12, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:53 PM, ChemE Stewart
cheme...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'cheme...@gmail.com');
wrote
Also, with two great orbiting comets on the way get your ice pick.
And a good single malt.
: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation on nuclear events in lightning
In reply to pagnu...@htdconnect.com's message of Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:25:19
-0500 (EST):
Hi,
[snip]
http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/larsen-electroweak-neutron-production-and-capture-in-lightning-dischargesans-meeting-san
3:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation on nuclear events in lightning
What they are missing is the orbiting energetic particle creating the static
lightning just like piantelli thinks it is orbiting hydrogen and not an
orbiting neutrino.
It is all in the orbit...on Earth
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In reply to David Roberson's message of Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:58:31 -0500 (EST):
Hi,
[snip]
Are you thinking that hot fusion may be occurring within the lightning stroke?
I have read that gamma rays have been detected under some conditions.
Possibly also, but I see no reason why WL are wrong
Several recent papers state that this neutron production is anomalous
and still not properly explained, e.g., from a popular science site -
Lightning strikes produce free neutrons, and we're not sure how.
Low energy neutrons not due to cosmic rays or any other previously known
source.
vortex-l@eskimo.com
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In reply to pagnu...@htdconnect.com's message of Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:25:19
-0500 (EST):
Hi,
[snip]
http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/larsen-electroweak-neutron
It's in the rainbow...you might have to shine a big spotlight to find it if
the sun is not also shining.
Stewart
Darkmattersalot.com
On Monday, November 12, 2012, wrote:
Several recent papers state that this neutron production is anomalous
and still not properly explained, e.g., from a
stroke? I have read that gamma rays have been detected under some
conditions.
Dave
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To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2012 3:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation on nuclear events in
lightning
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:38 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Possibly also, but I see no reason why WL are wrong about lightning. I was
simply pointing out that though they may well be correct about neutron
production in lightning, I suspect they are wrong about neutron production
in a
lattice.
what is their profile at ANS ?
Scientists ?(I mean the APS like, MIT like, Science/Nature Like)
Industrialists ? (Business)
Engineers (in the french meaning: link between science and industry,
between project and technology, between feasible and done)?
Applied scientist ? (a science version of
I wrote:
One question I have concerns the thermal properties of the [carbon nanotube
bulk] system. I have started to conclude that the thermal properties are
important -- for example, perhaps the temperature in the substrate must
gradually build to the point where some kind of resonance is
Thank you, Lou, for the interesting links.
Concerning Lewis Larsen's slides, the first twenty or so include abstracts
from recent papers on various topics relating to graphene and carbon
nanotubes. The second paper you mention touches on high magnetic fields
generated in carbon nanotubes (I am
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 7 Apr 2012 13:05:54 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
The fact that I have not searched for invisible pink unicorns
An invisible unicorn can't be pink ;)
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
An invisible unicorn can't be pink ;)
How could you know if you can't see them?
T
Pagnucco,
If the boys in the back of your NJ shop are successfully finished their free
Lattice Energy through arc plasmas in hydrogen here is a next project: Gearing
Up to replicate this startling free energy devise at
Team,
Sorry to disappoint, but I own no shop.
However, if the tech you refer to is real, it should be easy to set up a
persuasive public demo.
LP
Teampositive wrote:
Pagnucco,
If the boys in the back of your NJ shop are successfully finished their
free Lattice Energy through arc plasmas in
No. Not me. But I did spend most of my life in the semiconductor business,
too.
Pagnucco
Lou Pagnucco, Kulite Semiconductor Products Inc, Leonia, NJ Â
Not you?
Sorry.
Â
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
Iwamura's results are certainly interesting and worthy of replication, and
there have been replication attempts, some of which appear to have failed
(or, in a recent case, just published in the CMNS journal, there
How to build a fusion reactor in your garden shed.
Interesting post at:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/robert-godes-of-brillouin-energy-comments-on-lenr-research/
"Jed on April 10, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Robert,
You state: increase more spillover of atomic
At 04:43 PM 4/10/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
On 4/10/2012 4:39 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
Defkalion on their forum gave a similar explanation,
talking about the heat caused by H2 breaking before loading and,
recombination after degasing...
It can't possibly be recombination! Both the power and
At 11:40 PM 4/10/2012, Eric Walker wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman
Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
It's crucial. I know of only one *partial*
theory that actually makes quantitative
predictions, beyond Preparata's expectation of
helium,
I was under the impression the research done by Iwamura et al was
among the most convincing in the LENR field!
harry
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
wrote:
Iwamura's results
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I'm not concerned with the official
record, per se. However, well
At 01:34 AM 4/11/2012, Eric Walker wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman
Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Iwamura's results are certainly interesting and
worthy of replication, and there have been
replication attempts, some of which appear to
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
At 01:34 AM 4/11/2012, Eric Walker wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Iwamura's results are certainly interesting and worthy of
At 07:58 PM 4/11/2012, Harry Veeder wrote:
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
At 01:34 AM 4/11/2012, Eric Walker wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Iwamura's
peak before D2 gas
permeation which is not present in the Iwamura samples before gas permeation.
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:58:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation
From: hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:09 PM 4/11/2012, Finlay MacNab wrote:
There are many problems with this paper.
The most glaring error is that they heated their sample to 1000C for
10 minutes before measuring. They do this to remove sulphur, which
should not be present under tightly controlled conditions
Some point agains WL by AUL Lomax are ok, but they also are against DD
fusion.
gamma are expected in both cases. WL give a strange solution, but DD give
none... especially if you take into account Ni+H, W+D,... and also the
strange LENR that WL have gathered (ligtnings, rocks breaking, wires
At 12:08 AM 4/10/2012, Eric Walker wrote:
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Abd ul-Rahman
Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Â
W-L theory allows for a farrago of proposed
reactions, so one can pick and choose for a
large and complex field, to find a reaction that
At 03:42 AM 4/10/2012, Alain Sepeda wrote:
Some point agains WL by AUL Lomax are ok, but they also are against DD fusion.
Depends. What is DD fusion?
There is a known set of reactions which can be called DD fusion.
That is not what is happening in the FPHE. Obviously.
The Storms review
At 05:16 PM 4/9/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Interpretations of work can involve theory. McKubre is an
electrochemist, not a nuclear physicist. While his opinions about
theory may not exactly be irrelevant, neither should
I am interested in the “life after death” phenomena as an indicator of the
possibility of multiple causes of cold fusion. Some systems show life
after death and others do not; Rossi…yes, the Brillouin Energy system…no. A
single cause should show the same type of behavior.
What does (Lattice
It would be interesting to know if some of these (and maybe other bursty)
phenomena were due to self-sustaining generation of micro-fractures -
i.e., some kind of tipping into a phase transition.
Also, it would interesting to know if the protons seen long after energy
production stops in
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I am interested in the “life after death” phenomena as an indicator of the
possibility of multiple causes of cold fusion.
I do not think life after death is significant. I think the causes are
prosaic. With bulk material, it is caused by highly loaded Pd
Defkalion on their forum gave a similar explanation,
talking about the heat caused by H2 breaking before loading and,
recombination after degasing...
2012/4/10 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I am interested in the “life after death” phenomena as an
)
Therefore: what must not exist, does not exist.
Guenter
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An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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It would be interesting to know
If the proton was produced by free neutron decay, an electron would have
also been produced. These electrons were not seen in the Piantelli’s cloud
chamber. Could this mean that Piantelli’s reaction is different from the
neutron centric Brillouin Energy system’s reaction?
On Tue, Apr 10,
theory.
So there must be something else, which is more fundamental.
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
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Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I
At 01:01 PM 4/10/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
I am interested in the life after death
phenomena as an indicator of the possibility of
multiple causes of cold fusion. Some systems
show life after death and others do not;
Rossi
yes, the Brillouin Energy system
no. A
single cause should show the
On 4/10/2012 4:39 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
Defkalion on their forum gave a similar explanation,
talking about the heat caused by H2 breaking before loading and,
recombination after degasing...
It can't possibly be recombination! Both the power and energy far
exceeds that in many cases, as
First, I have to say I am not sure Piantelli's observations are real.
Maybe he had faulty instruments. But, if he did see protons, and they
were from decaying neutrons (sequestered in some decay-attenuating niche),
then, he should have seen electrons (and probably some X-rays), I think.
But,
seem
to know it all.
Pity is, some of
them got insane. (Goedel)
(No, I am not
Rossi)
Guenter
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An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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Betreff: Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
If the proton was produced by free neutron decay, an electron would have
also been produced. These electrons were not seen in the Piantelli’s cloud
chamber. Could this mean that Piantelli’s reaction is different from the
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
No, not at all. Where did you get that idea? Heat is not missing, except
when we look at what would be required to generate the observed levels of
helium following the W-L pathways. The third missing observable
, Apr 11, 2012 12:40 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
wrote:
No, not at all. Where did you get that idea? Heat is not missing, except when
we look at what would be required to generate the observed
just to quote Larsen in his cite:
- He criticize the ide that He4 is trapped, and an ad hoc excuse
- he claims that some transmutation cycle produce much more coherent
energry by He4 than DD fusion
you can fin their reasoning in
At 01:30 AM 4/9/2012, Alain Sepeda wrote:
just to quote Larsen in his cite:
- He criticize the ide that He4 is trapped, and an ad hoc excuse
- he claims that some transmutation cycle produce much more coherent
energry by He4 than DD fusion
you can fin their reasoning in
Abd,
First, thanks for putting in so much effort into your review.
I think most of us find the reaction pathways bewildering complicated.
I am perplexed, though, that you say that McKubre's experiments provide no
evidence for W-L theory, since he is now a technical advisor for Brillouin
At 12:25 PM 4/9/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Do you communicate with McKubre and have any update on his theory?
- especially wrt Brillouin's LENR hypothesis.
The idea that McKubre has a theory, or that this is, in some way,
important, is Krivit propaganda. He is an experimentalist.
At 12:25 PM 4/9/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Abd,
First, thanks for putting in so much effort into your review.
I think most of us find the reaction pathways bewildering complicated.
I am perplexed, though, that you say that McKubre's experiments provide no
evidence for W-L theory,
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Interpretations of work can involve theory. McKubre is an electrochemist,
not a nuclear physicist. While his opinions about theory may not exactly be
irrelevant, neither should we expect them to be authoritative . . .
As far as I know, McKubre
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In my view, the job of developing cold fusion theory will involve materials
consider this:
Hagelstein -an intermediate figure at MIT-
does a borderline experiment with a couple of students.
He proves something, ie something akin to 'cold fusion'.
The result looks convincing, but does not enter the MIT establishment, because
they would loose funding in hot fusion, which
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:51:25 -0500:
Hi,
At 12:31 AM 4/8/2012, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:34:24 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Widom-Larsen theory completely fails to explain the actual
experimental
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:30:42 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
just to quote Larsen in his cite:
- He criticize the ide that He4 is trapped, and an ad hoc excuse
- he claims that some transmutation cycle produce much more coherent
energry by He4 than DD fusion
you can fin their
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
W-L theory allows for a farrago of proposed reactions, so one can pick and
choose for a large and complex field, to find a reaction that might explain
a particular result. And that the required reaction series
At 12:31 AM 4/8/2012, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:34:24 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Widom-Larsen theory completely fails to explain the actual
experimental results of cold fusion experiments, particularly the PdD
reactions of the
Lou,
Show this to one of your non degree tech guys working at your transducer
based instrument factory shop in N. J. :
http://www.icpig2009.unam.mx/pdf/PB13-3.pdf
He could assemble it in an hour. Use Ar instead of He. Next day check
for He. Surprise!
The C deposit is conical nano
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 8:08 AM, fusion.calo...@gmail.com
fusion.calo...@gmail.com wrote:
Where there is He there is Rossi Fusion.
He has never been claimed to be a byproduct of the Rossi eCat.
T
Terry Blanton wrote:
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 8:08 AM, fusion.calo...@gmail.com
fusion.calo...@gmail.com wrote:
Where there is He there is Rossi Fusion.
He has never been claimed to be a byproduct of the Rossi eCat.
Terry,
That does not mean it's not there, though.
It should be checked for.
Reliable/fusion.cal,
If an experiment this simple produces He, it proves LENR.
Now, for sure, one of the objections raised would be that the He detected
was mixed in with the methane - even if the Argon is used.
Has anyone ruled out this possible artifact?
fusion.calo...@gmail.com wrote:
Lou,
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Terry,
That does not mean it's not there, though.
It should be checked for.
The fact that I have not searched for invisible pink unicorns does not
mean they are not there. However, I have no reason to look for them.
No
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
That applies to cold fusion theories. There is the sun.
:-)
T
Terry - the helium would presumably come from alpha decay, not fusion.
It should be noted that the WendtIrion paper cited - also assumed alpha
decay; but tungsten is much heavier than nickel. Ni is not known to have an
alpha channel where this paper suggests that W does:
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Terry - the helium would presumably come from alpha decay, not fusion.
Since we know there are likely a myriad of subatomic reactions
flitting about these days, I tend to get a bit sensitive to the use of
the word 'fusion'.
Terry,
Brillouin's theory starts with H and ends up with He - what is going on in
between seems to be the land of the pink unicorns and includes rattling the
metal lattice cage with EMF to shake loose some energy. They mention
having to purge the system of He every once in awhile.
that is the point that Lewis larsen put the focus on in his Slides.
like this one
http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/lattice-energy-llcmany-lenr-paths-may-produce-he4march-03-2012
2012/4/7 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:34:24 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Widom-Larsen theory completely fails to explain the actual
experimental results of cold fusion experiments, particularly the PdD
reactions of the Pons-Fleischmann Heat Effect.
Not that I'm a fan of WL :),
At 09:40 PM 4/5/2012, Eric Walker wrote:
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Abd ul-Rahman
Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Gamma sources could be placed so that gammas
pass through the supposedly active heavy
electron patches, and, if W-L theory is real,
drastic
At 09:55 PM 4/5/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
You are right - I did not intend to sound dogmatic.
Great.
I am beginning to wonder whether a couple of different phenomena, perhaps
sharing a common denominator, are occurring - depending on experimental
materials and procedures.
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If we look carefully at the new territory, we may find many beasts. Assuming
Abd,
It is not obvious what you want to falsify.
The paper by Pendry -
Low Frequency Plasmons in Thin Wire Structures - JB Pendry
http://www.cmth.ph.ic.ac.uk/photonics/Newphotonics/pdf/wires.pdf
- presents very simple calculation (based on wires array geometry) of
nanowire surface conduction
There are a number of constrains we must meet to get a positive result. One
of these constrains is that the reaction takes place in a lattice
comprising an even atomic numbered host metallic element.
Gold will not work with an atomic number of 79. Tungsten at 74, Platinum at
78, nickel at 28,
This is hot, so to speak. Cough, cough ... that can be understood in a
slightly derogatory way.
Well, it is a slick presentation, glossy and well-prepared - and very
convincing for LENR in a most superficial way. Cheerleaders for W-L, like
Steve Krivit will be quick to heap on the praise. Put on
At 08:59 AM 4/5/2012, Jones Beene wrote:
This is hot, so to speak. Cough, cough ... that can be understood in a
slightly derogatory way.
Well, it is a slick presentation, glossy and well-prepared - and very
convincing for LENR in a most superficial way. Cheerleaders for W-L, like
Steve Krivit
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Well, it is a slick presentation, glossy and well-prepared - and very
convincing for LENR in a most superficial way.
Consultant's motto: It always works in the PowerPoint presentation.
T
Great to see you all back from the future to reality.
See the following Chan links:
http://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/the-chan-formula-4.html
http://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/chan-formula-update-i-5.html
See Hideki
at:
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And I still have seen no expanation, anywhere, of the basic problems
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Great to see you all back from the future to reality
Abd,
Regarding the absence of gammas -
Don't nanoscale currents store far more inductive momentum/energy than
macro currents do per conduction electron? For example, see -
Low Frequency Plasmons in Thin Wire Structures - JB Pendry
http://www.cmth.ph.ic.ac.uk/photonics/Newphotonics/pdf/wires.pdf
a...@lomaxdesign.com
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And I still have seen no expanation, anywhere, of the basic
problems with W-L theory.
Abd ul.
Do you know this:
A short rebuttal to the proponents
At 02:22 PM 4/5/2012, integral.property.serv...@gmail.com wrote:
Great to see you all back from the future to reality.
See the following Chan links:
http://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/the-chan-formula-4.htmlhttp://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/the-chan-formula-4.html
Jones,
Sure, some of those experiments produce hot plasmas, but there are many
experimental results which appear to produce transmutations with
temperatures too low to produce collisions energetic enough for fusion -
unless the energy is focused and hidden in infinitesimal volumes.
My
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
Jones, Sure, some of those experiments produce hot plasmas, but there are
many
experimental results which appear to produce transmutations with
temperatures too low to produce collisions energetic enough for fusion...
Lou - yes that
At 03:29 PM 4/5/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Abd,
Regarding the absence of gammas -
... is it reasonable to suppose that a high energy gamma would
experience many (anomalously high) dissipative Compton collisions before
escaping as a less energetic photon? If this is plausible, could
Jones,
Good points.
I do not know the Oppenheimer-Phillips effect. I will research it tonight.
There could be a number of confounding effects that coexist.
Our tendency to look for a relativistic collision behind every nuclear
event (except radioactivity) could be the problem.
Lou Pagnucco
Abd,
I intend to do some more research on this - plasmonics is pretty dicey.
I'm not sure whether a nanowire has a cross-section large enough to
scatter gammas originating at any significant distance, thoug, unless they
are extremely collimated.
But, I am more optimistic than you are that W-L
At 04:37 PM 4/5/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
My suggestion is that transmutations be the litmus test for LENR - not the
calorimetry results which never seem definitive enough for everyone. If
the reported successful experiments were well conducted, then they will be
reproducible.
At 05:15 PM 4/5/2012, Jones Beene wrote:
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From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
Jones, Sure, some of those experiments produce hot plasmas, but there are
many
experimental results which appear to produce transmutations with
temperatures too low to produce collisions energetic
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
Gamma sources could be placed so that gammas pass through the supposedly
active heavy electron patches, and, if W-L theory is real, drastic
attenuation should be seen. That attentuation should not be seen with
Abd,
You are right - I did not intend to sound dogmatic.
I am beginning to wonder whether a couple of different phenomena, perhaps
sharing a common denominator, are occurring - depending on experimental
materials and procedures. Nature may be getting a little perverse here.
The Wendt-Irion
Eric,
The plasmon conduction electrons in nanowires can be very heavy - i.e.,
they possess a huge effective mass when they impact a particle in the
direction of the current flow (- but not in orthogonal directions.)
Similar to a light metal plate that penetrates a strong barrier because it
is
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