The BMW UUC Digest
Volume 2 : Issue 3 : "text" Format
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Re: '93 E36 Failed Emissions Test
Re: smaller pulleys for SCCA street prepared?
Re: smaller pulleys for SCCA street prepared?
Re: Pulleys
Re: The Bug is biting
Re: The Bug is biting
Re: The Bug is biting
Re: CCA Voting
Re: NY Times article on Bangle
Re: NY Times article on Bangle
Re: NY Times article on Bangle
Re: NY Times article on Bangle
7-series digest ??
Re: The Bug is biting
<OT> Do any VW or Audi use non viscous LSD?
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:50:04 -0700
From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: '93 E36 Failed Emissions Test
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Any idea what I should check and what might be broken?
Drive the car for at LEAST an hour, to get the Cat HOT. Then have it tested as soon as
possible. Keep the car running if you have to wait a bit.
My 2 cents,
Jim Bassett
1998 M3/4 - passed CA smog at 116,157 miles
1993 325is #44 JP/A5 - passed CA smog at 102,958 (as raced :-))
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:52:28 -0800
From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Karl Zemlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"[uucdigest]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bmw digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: smaller pulleys for SCCA street prepared?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yes I meant larger. Larger is better. Don't go smaller. For sure. No
doubt. At least that's what she said. :-)
Must have been tired brain cells after completing 'Jack's yearly Zymol
HD Cleanse rubdown too late last night. I decided that if he's glowing
this good after 7 years he deserves another dose of acceleration in
thanks. Its the '227hp isn't enough, maybe I can squeeze a few more hp
out of his rear wheels next time we visit the DynoJet kind of thinking.
UUC is advertising 4 to 11 HP, and not bad bang for the buck. Sometime
after midnight 'Jack asked what about autocross classes (he's ok running
for the fun of it in street prepared on stock springs and street tires
but just trying to stay out of full prepared).
So yes, are any size other than stock pulleys legal in SCCA street
prepared?
tia,
Barry
Karl Zemlin wrote:
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>Why would you want to go smaller?
>
>smaller pulleys for SCCA street prepared:
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:38:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[uucdigest]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: smaller pulleys for SCCA street prepared?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Howdy,
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, jkerouac wrote:
> So yes, are any size other than stock pulleys legal in SCCA street
> prepared?
Short answer: Yes.
>From the 2003 rulebook, section 14.10:
> U. Any crankshaft damper or pulley may be used. SFI-rated dampers are
> recommended. Supercharged cars may not change the effective diameter of
> any pulley which drives the supercharger.
>
> V. Any accessory pulleys and belts of the same type (e.g. V-belt,
> serpentine) as standard may be used. This allowance applies to accessory
> pulleys only (e.g., alternator, water pump, power steering pump, and
> crankshaft drive pulleys). It does not allow replacement, modification,
> or substitution of pulleys, cogs, gears, or belts which are part of cam,
> layshaft, or ignition drive or timing systems, etc. Supercharged cars
> are excluded from this allowance. Alternate pulley materials may be
> used. Idler pulleys may be used for belt routing in place of items which
> the rules specifically allow to be removed, such as smog pumps and air
> conditioning compressors. They may serve no other purpose.
The key is that "the same type" means only "v-belt, serpentine, etc."...
A change is size is allowed.
Mark
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Date: 28 Jan 2004 19:31:43 -0000
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pulleys
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The correct aftermarket pulleys make a pretty big improvement in power. Well worth it
in my opinion. If you're concerned about the alternator
being underdriven (assuming you have big power accessories) most suppliers offer kits
with the same-diameter aluminum pulley for that piece.
I have the standard UUC pulley kit in my '95 M3 race car and love it.
As for SCCA legality, you'll have to check the rules for your class:
http://www.scca.org/news/index.html#comp_regs I don't remember them
being excluded from Prepared classes, but I could be wrong. There are enough hard core
cone-heads on this list that should be able to chime
in.
-peter*g
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:45:38 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Bug is biting
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
UUC'ers,
The bug is biting on getting a high performance 3 series. Maybe middle age
crazy without the wife unit complications or just wanting more spirit than
I get out of the 7's (the e32 needs more power).
All that I've read about the 330PP suggest it's 90% of the E36M3 and with
aftermarket is probably a great car. The real draw is the E46M3 but the
lingering issue of motor failure (read $$$) is very worrisome. Granted BMW
extended the warranty but it only multiplies the doubt. Couple this with my
tendency to avoid constraints like mandated "BMW branded" motor oil when
Redline, Mobil1, or Amsoil make superior products and the potential for
real dealer slug fests is there.
I like the looks of the E46's just slightly more than the E36, otherwise
I'd consider that as the most intelligent alternative. Mind you I have
driven a couple of E36's and was impressed most by the M3. The single E46,
330 I've driven seemed to have mushy steering and an unexpected vibration
at idle.
Then in the wings sit the Nissan G35 coupe and the Audi S4. Both seem to
represent themselves well in head to head comparos with 3's.
Anyone have an opinion about this? This is not a gotta have it now change
but something I'm moving toward.
-Kevin
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:13:03 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Bug is biting
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A slightly tweaked E36 is a very nice compromise, and if you shop, you'd be able to
get a good deal,
leaving lots of money for tweaks like suspensions, shift kits, cams,
superchargers...etc.
As you mentioned about the E46, it's a big car 3500 lbs. Not quite a tossable car.
Infinity also caught my eye, though the interior is a little cheesy for my taste. If
you're looking
for pure, gut-wrenching performance, how about a Subaru sti?
So many flavors, so little time. You need to go out and play with all of them. they'll
each talk to
you in their own way, and you'll get to a short list fairly quickly...but you'll have
fun shopping.
Marc Plante
E36 325i, 218k
Vienna, VA
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:36:43 -0500
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Bug is biting
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I dunno about free maintenance on the G35, but their dealer service will be
better than any BMW dealer anywhere. Period. Plus a guaranteed Infiniti
G35 loaner. Plus it's a better car than the E46. On top of needing to
spend way more time at a dealer, every E46 I've driven (323i-sport,
328i-sport, 330i-sport, 330xi auto) really feel like the waaaaaay
over-weight cars they were. Their reflexes just don't feel as quick & as
balanced as the E36....& the steering is much worse. Even my ex's
under-powered, no-package anything 323is was more fun to drive. However,
E46s look much better than the E36....well, until the smiley-face facelift.
Of course, we know my choices would be neither an E36 or 46.
I've only driven one 6-sp G35 sport coupe with the brembos, sport suspension
& LSD. I think it's a much better communicating, more fun to drive. It's
only slower to 60 because of the 6-sp, which would give you more flexibility
on the track. After driving this, I wonder why any one would pick a 330i.
Mike L thought the rear suspension was a little twitchy, but I didn't feel
any of this. I thought it handled very well (with the nannies off, of
course) & easily transitioned from a little push into as much oversteer as
your ego can handle whereas the E46 just push, push, pushes. This car could
probably use a little more rubber to the pavement, though--although, the
square tire sizes may be what makes it a bit more entertaining. Oh yea, you
can get this car with the new infiniti AWD, too--including a manual.
My favorite to drive is the 5-sp IS300 with the sport pack & optional
torsen. This is definitely the lightest feeling most nimble of the 3.
Great steering wheel too. Plus, the one I drove had those alacantra (suede
insert) seats which I particularly liked. It'll have the narrowest tires at
215, but it really was a blast to drive. It prolly comes in under the 325i
too......if only it weren't for those rice boy tailights.
I'd still prolly pick an E36M3 crew cab over any of these. The 2nd gen S4
would be next on my list, follwed by any iteration of M5 or E55. Of course,
you guys know this is within the constraints of a 4-door....I mean with the
Z06, Viper GTS, 315hp M Coupe out there, c'mon.
CTS-V....heh,heh....heh,heh...yea, yea.....hey beavis, let's drop this big
motor into a sedan.......BTW, my sarcasm doesn't mean I wouldn't take the
keys if handed to me....
Lee
88M3->very light & balanced
01 Saab9-3SE->hey, c'mon, with the GM supplier discount it was $7k
off.....plus rebates...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Wynne
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 18:18
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] The Bug is biting
>
>
> Search the
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>
>
> I don't know that the "extra" performance of a PP car would
> be worth it
> to me over a normal 330i w/sports pack. I am also not keen on
> the interior
> of the PP, but that is just me.
>
> Some of the 01 E46s had the extra light steering, they fixed on later
> cars and offered a free retrofit to the original owners of the "light"
> steering cars. It was real easy to get used to and not that
> big a deal.
> No E46 should have a vibration problem unless there is a
> problem - SMOOTH
> is the word. The E46 cars are nicer looking (again, to me)
> and have more
> room, plus they newer cars have DSC rather than just ASC,
> which is a huge
> plus.
>
> I would probably own an E46 M3 if I could afford it as a 2nd
> (3rd?) car, or if
> they made the M3/4 again. I would prefer it over the 330i,
> but it IS a lot
> more money.
>
> The Audi has bad resale and poor reliability, but the
> interiors and stereos
> are nicer than BMW has :-)
>
> I like the G35, it is a REAL bargain. But it does not look as
> nice (in my
> opinion) as the E46 and is not as much a driver's car. That
> said, you can
> get a nice manual tranny car loaded with reclining rear seats
> and NAV system
> for less than a new 325i. The local dealer here is in a bad
> location and
> otherwise hurls, but I did go look at them. No free
> maintenance on these
> either, I don't think.
>
> A MB "sport" model is nice, but only a turbo 4. The MB AMG
> model is auto only
> and probably cost more than the 330i.
>
> I would go drive the Suburu and see if you can live with the
> cheapness, if
> you can it is a HECK of a deal.
>
> If you can handle the edgy styling, the new Caddy CTS-V has the 400hp
> 'vette motor and a 6 speed for $50k.
>
> You could also do what I did, get a 2nd car. Keep the big car
> for when you
> need it and getting something fun for the rest of the time. A
> nice 6 banger
> Z3, an S2000, maybe even the 350Z roadster would be a blast
> to drive and
> in the case of the 1st 2 can be had pretty cheap on the used
> market. The
> Z4 is a better car, but is a lot of money. Even a used Miata
> for a sunny
> day top down is a nice car - and since they are now 15 years
> old you can
> find some REAL cheap ones out there.
>
> The insurance companies don't give enough discounts for
> multi-car, however -
> but that is a rant for another day :-)
>
> Dennis
> 01 M5 silver/black
> 01 S2000 red/black
>
> At 11:45 AM 01/28/2004 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Search the
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >UUC'ers,
> >
> >The bug is biting on getting a high performance 3 series.
> Maybe middle age
> >crazy without the wife unit complications or just wanting
> more spirit than
> >I get out of the 7's (the e32 needs more power).
> >
> >All that I've read about the 330PP suggest it's 90% of the
> E36M3 and with
> >aftermarket is probably a great car. The real draw is the
> E46M3 but the
> >lingering issue of motor failure (read $$$) is very
> worrisome. Granted BMW
> >extended the warranty but it only multiplies the doubt.
> Couple this with my
> >tendency to avoid constraints like mandated "BMW branded"
> motor oil when
> >Redline, Mobil1, or Amsoil make superior products and the
> potential for
> >real dealer slug fests is there.
> >I like the looks of the E46's just slightly more than the
> E36, otherwise
> >I'd consider that as the most intelligent alternative. Mind
> you I have
> >driven a couple of E36's and was impressed most by the M3.
> The single E46,
> >330 I've driven seemed to have mushy steering and an
> unexpected vibration
> >at idle.
> >Then in the wings sit the Nissan G35 coupe and the Audi S4.
> Both seem to
> >represent themselves well in head to head comparos with 3's.
> >
> >Anyone have an opinion about this? This is not a gotta have
> it now change
> >but something I'm moving toward.
> >
> >-Kevin
> >
> >
> >_____________________________________________________________
> _____________
> >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of
> the BMW CCA.
> >
> >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> ____________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of
> the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:59:04 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCA Voting
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
For those in the CCA don't forget to vote. While the Pacific region is a
given for office positions, the bylaw changes are important to give
consideration to no matter how you vote.
Mine went out this morning.
-Kevin
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:45:32 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NY Times article on Bangle
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Motorcyclists are at least as style conscious and brand loyal as car owners,
and probably more conservative. There's been an interesting controversy in
the bike world over the direction that stylist Pierre Terblanche has been
taking the immortal Ducati, especially the new 999 model. Here's an
interesting point of view from Andrew Serbinski, of New Jersey-based
industrial design firm Machineart, as quoted in the February 2004 issue of
Cycle World:
"Raymond Loewy, one of the founding fathers of the Industrial design
profession [note: Loewy was responsible for the original Studebaker Avanti],
preached that products must be designed according to the principle of MAYA -
Most Advanced Yet Acceptable. There is a point where the comfortable thread
of familiarity loses connection with what consumers can relate to, sending
them into a spin."
FWIW I quite like Terblanche's work, but not too much of Bangle's. I'm not
sure we can lay the hopelessly ill-conceived iDrive at Bangle's door, but
the E65 bustle butt and the bland and almost frumpy new 5 series speak in
his voice. On the other hand I think the Z4 mostly works, partly because the
kind of car it is allows the designer to buckle more swash - or is that
swash more buckle? - although I think that some of its ornamentation will
get old in a hurry. I won't have an opinion on the new 6 until I see one.
Mostly I think that Bangle has failed the MAYA test at the second letter A.
And remember: beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but ugly is just in
your face.
Neil
96 M3 - still pretty good looking
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:43:19 -0800
From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NY Times article on Bangle
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Neil, I like the MAYA concept,
but butt ugly is still just plain ugly. lol.
Barry
'97 //M3, not butt ugly
Neil Maller wrote:
>Mostly I think that Bangle has failed the MAYA test at the second letter A.
>.
>.
>.
>
>
>And remember: beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but ugly is just in
>your face.
>
>Neil
>96 M3 - still pretty good looking
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:57:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NY Times article on Bangle
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Phil:
Wasn't the trunk opening modified, but with restraint
to make sure it would accept a carton of Warsteiner or
something w/o excess tilting? Or, is that an urban
legend?
So, making it fit golf clubs is a bad thing, but a
carton of Warsteiner is OK?
Neil Deshpande - little alcohol, less golf, love the
PG Wodehouse golf stories though
***
Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ever seen an E30 M3 with the rear spoiler removed? But
then it WAS an afterthought---and with a purpose that
didn't include golf!
Greg Cagle wrote:
IMHO it's possible to "raise the trunk" and not make
it look like it was a glued on afterthought.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:59:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NY Times article on Bangle
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Neil Deshpande wrote:
> So, making it fit golf clubs is a bad thing, but a
> carton of Warsteiner is OK?
A colleague who is probably in BMW's ideal demographic (young, married, no
kids, nice job, active lifestyle) complained to me once that his E46
325i's trunk was too small because it couldn't hold 4 sets of golf clubs
(for the four golfers it could hold). You all know that the E39 has a
little diagram in the trunk showing how to fit a couple golf sets, right?
The McLaren F1 road car had a golf bag in its included custom-designed
luggage set that would fit in one of its three seating areas.
--Andre
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:54:53 -0800
From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 7-series digest ??
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I had a fit of madness today and bought a 1989 750il ( I KNOW ..it's
automatic ..but it�s a V12 with 300 geegees under the hood ) .Never out
of the South ..no rust anywhere ..only 2 owners ...low history of maint
problems (the usual radiator ) .. So ..those who have one ...Where's the
best 7-series digest ??
Off-digest responses please so intense discussions on length of lugbolts
can continue unabated ...
Bill Proud
Seattle Summers , Tennessee Winters .
Long Commute between ,
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:17:37 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Bug is biting
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I don't know that the "extra" performance of a PP car would be worth it
to me over a normal 330i w/sports pack. I am also not keen on the interior
of the PP, but that is just me.
Some of the 01 E46s had the extra light steering, they fixed on later
cars and offered a free retrofit to the original owners of the "light"
steering cars. It was real easy to get used to and not that big a deal.
No E46 should have a vibration problem unless there is a problem - SMOOTH
is the word. The E46 cars are nicer looking (again, to me) and have more
room, plus they newer cars have DSC rather than just ASC, which is a huge
plus.
I would probably own an E46 M3 if I could afford it as a 2nd (3rd?) car, or if
they made the M3/4 again. I would prefer it over the 330i, but it IS a lot
more money.
The Audi has bad resale and poor reliability, but the interiors and stereos
are nicer than BMW has :-)
I like the G35, it is a REAL bargain. But it does not look as nice (in my
opinion) as the E46 and is not as much a driver's car. That said, you can
get a nice manual tranny car loaded with reclining rear seats and NAV system
for less than a new 325i. The local dealer here is in a bad location and
otherwise hurls, but I did go look at them. No free maintenance on these
either, I don't think.
A MB "sport" model is nice, but only a turbo 4. The MB AMG model is auto only
and probably cost more than the 330i.
I would go drive the Suburu and see if you can live with the cheapness, if
you can it is a HECK of a deal.
If you can handle the edgy styling, the new Caddy CTS-V has the 400hp
'vette motor and a 6 speed for $50k.
You could also do what I did, get a 2nd car. Keep the big car for when you
need it and getting something fun for the rest of the time. A nice 6 banger
Z3, an S2000, maybe even the 350Z roadster would be a blast to drive and
in the case of the 1st 2 can be had pretty cheap on the used market. The
Z4 is a better car, but is a lot of money. Even a used Miata for a sunny
day top down is a nice car - and since they are now 15 years old you can
find some REAL cheap ones out there.
The insurance companies don't give enough discounts for multi-car, however -
but that is a rant for another day :-)
Dennis
01 M5 silver/black
01 S2000 red/black
At 11:45 AM 01/28/2004 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>UUC'ers,
>
>The bug is biting on getting a high performance 3 series. Maybe middle age
>crazy without the wife unit complications or just wanting more spirit than
>I get out of the 7's (the e32 needs more power).
>
>All that I've read about the 330PP suggest it's 90% of the E36M3 and with
>aftermarket is probably a great car. The real draw is the E46M3 but the
>lingering issue of motor failure (read $$$) is very worrisome. Granted BMW
>extended the warranty but it only multiplies the doubt. Couple this with my
>tendency to avoid constraints like mandated "BMW branded" motor oil when
>Redline, Mobil1, or Amsoil make superior products and the potential for
>real dealer slug fests is there.
>I like the looks of the E46's just slightly more than the E36, otherwise
>I'd consider that as the most intelligent alternative. Mind you I have
>driven a couple of E36's and was impressed most by the M3. The single E46,
>330 I've driven seemed to have mushy steering and an unexpected vibration
>at idle.
>Then in the wings sit the Nissan G35 coupe and the Audi S4. Both seem to
>represent themselves well in head to head comparos with 3's.
>
>Anyone have an opinion about this? This is not a gotta have it now change
>but something I'm moving toward.
>
>-Kevin
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:38:13 -0500
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: <OT> Do any VW or Audi use non viscous LSD?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Looking for a new parts supply.
Thanks
Brett Anderson
KMS
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