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Volume 1 : Issue 104 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Carfax request please-1993 BMW 325i
  Re: Remote Start for winter
  Re: Remote Start for winter
  Install Sirus in E39
  Re: e28 535i Cooling issues -- Fixed
  NY Times article on Bangle 
  Re: NY Times article on Bangle 
  Re: NY Times article on Bangle 
  Fw: E46 Spare Tire Question
  Re: Fw: E46 Spare Tire Question
  Re: Remote Start for winter
  M20 engine idle
  Re: [E34] M50tu water pump failure datapoint
  E28 Questions - Engine and Gearbox swap !
  Re: E28 Questions - Engine and Gearbox swap !

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:48:35 -0500
From: "Mike Gambini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Carfax request please-1993 BMW 325i
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Anybody got a live Carfax account? Would very much appreciate if you could
run this and email me the report.

Thanks in advance
MikeG

WBACB3311PFE14084



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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:02:23 -0500
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remote Start for winter
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Wrong!

Who told you that hogwash?

The DME in an EWS equipped car will not allow spark or fuel if it does not
receive the code from the EWS control unit.

There are ways around it, but cutting one wire is not one of those ways.

Brett Anderson
KMS

> -----Original Message-----
> Actually there is but 1 wire to cut on the harness going to the ECU that
> disables EWS.   Car would function normal in all other aspects except it
> would not need the chip in the key.   Thus, you don't have a key
> in the dash
> for a thief to find and it still requires the proper key to turn the
> ignition.   EWS doesn't prevent crooks from hot wiring the car at
> all now as
> that wire cutting is well known in the crook community.  It might stop a
> local 12yr old but that is about it.
>
> Mike




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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:18:21 -0500
From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remote Start for winter
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I might have been mistaking that procedure for swapping chips in an EWS car
before JC chips came with boards.  Snip a wire and any chip works in a 95.
That I have done personally and before snipping the wire, the other chips
for EWS cars would not work.

As to what crooks do, heard it from the horses mouth about popping out a
turn signal, cutting the alarm wire, pulling the ecu out, snipping a wire,
then forcing the ignition and driving off.   I also have PERSONALLY seen
theft recovery M3s at local insurance auctions that appeared to have been
stolen this way, so I assumed it worked.

Mike



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [UUC] Remote Start for winter


> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Wrong!
>
> Who told you that hogwash?
>
> The DME in an EWS equipped car will not allow spark or fuel if it does not
> receive the code from the EWS control unit.
>
> There are ways around it, but cutting one wire is not one of those ways.
>
> Brett Anderson
> KMS
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Actually there is but 1 wire to cut on the harness going to the ECU that
> > disables EWS.   Car would function normal in all other aspects except it
> > would not need the chip in the key.   Thus, you don't have a key
> > in the dash
> > for a thief to find and it still requires the proper key to turn the
> > ignition.   EWS doesn't prevent crooks from hot wiring the car at
> > all now as
> > that wire cutting is well known in the crook community.  It might stop a
> > local 12yr old but that is about it.
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:14:26 -0800
From: "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Install Sirus in E39
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all,

Has anyone installed a Sirius radio in their E39? If so, please let me know
where you installed it (location in the car) and what brand (and model if
possible) you bought.  I was thinking of putting one in the area below the
cup holders (when open).

Thanks,

John Kjos
'99 540i/6: Dinan S
'01 525iTa: Stock
Portland, OR



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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:58:42 -0800
From: Avinash Heroor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: e28 535i Cooling issues -- Fixed
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To cut a long story short, I didn't put one wire back properly when I 
had the dash off to replace the OBC light bar.
Car wasn't overheating, gauge was overindicating (if there's such a 
word! :) ) For the people really interested, it was
the connector with a single brown (ground I believe) wire. It was a good 
experience in diagnosing cooling systems
if nothing else. I'd like to thank Neil Deshpande for putting me on the 
right track.

--Avi.


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:23:16 -0500
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NY Times article on Bangle 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/23/automobiles/23BANG.html?pagewanted=all&pos
ition=

The Sturm und Drang Over Chris Bangle
By FARA WARNER

Published: January 23, 2004


RICK SPARKS has taken to writing song lyrics to express how he feels about
the newly redesigned BMW 6 Series, whose curvaceous but controversial look
was overseen by the company's much maligned head of design, Chris Bangle.
Set to the tune of the Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," Dr.
Sparks riffs, "We're the Sixers Lovely Coupes Club Band; we wish C. Bangle
would just go."

In the almost three years since BMW introduced its revamped flagship 7
Series, no other car designer has generated as much heat as Mr. Bangle, 47.
Thousands of BMW loyalists continue to debate the pros and cons of Mr.
Bangle's designs on Web sites like Bimmerfest and BMWchannel. They have
started online petitions calling for his removal (so far there are about
4,000 signatures) and have even sent him death threats.

But there is one thing many BMW lovers have not done: stopped buying the
cars. Last year, sales in the United States (the company's biggest market)
were up 8 percent, making BMW the second-best-selling luxury brand, behind
Lexus, and tracking the overall upward trend of luxury car sales.

Both the 7 Series and a recently redesigned 5 Series have sold well,
although the 5 Series has been criticized for having headlights that look
like the comedian Dame Edna's eyeglasses and what detractors call a "Bangle
butt," a high trunk line that adds bulk to a car that had always been
considered handsomely athletic.

Indeed, in 2003 sales of the 5 Series were up 15 percent over the previous
year. And the new $40,000 Z4 roadster has received high praise from some
critics, and more than 20,000 have been sold since it was introduced. BMW
says that it now makes up 40 percent of the luxury roadster market, which
also includes cars from Mercedes and Lexus.

All of which means that Dr. Sparks, who has owned five BMW's including three
vintage 6 Series coupes from the 1980's, isn't likely to get his wishes
satisfied anytime soon.

Mr. Bangle, interviewed at the North American International Auto Show in
Detroit earlier this month, takes the attacks on his designs rather
personally. "It would be nice if it were a dialogue, but it isn't," he said.
"Everyone should have a hate Web site so they know what it feels like."

Mr. Bangle said that the design for the 6 Series actually dated to 1999,
when he introduced the Z9 GT concept car at the 1999 Frankfurt Motor Show.
The car featured the bulging back end and a long snouty hood that was
striking, but not necessarily beautiful, which is what most car critics
expected from BMW's designers. "There was outrage, shock," Mr. Bangle said.

Car companies often create concept cars to float designs or technology that
they are thinking about introducing. Such tests give them an idea of how
consumers are going to react to ideas that may end up on production
vehicles. But the stormy reaction to the Z9 GT didn't deter Mr. Bangle. In
fact, as he lived with the design through the next few years, the more he
came to like its curving sleekness. "The same lines many people once hated
are now being called wonderful and beautiful," he said.

Well, at least by some people. "It is a gorgeous car," said Barbara
Neuerman, who retired from selling BMW's in Chicago a year ago and who owns
five of them herself, including a 1986 M5 that has been modified for racing.

As might be expected, Dr. Sparks, an associate professor at Lee University
in Cleveland, Tenn., isn't so enthusiastic. "We who treasure BMW's styling
heritage can only shake our heads and wonder what Munich is smoking," he
wrote in "Coupe de Grace," an article on his Web site
(www.geocities.com/silbersix) devoted to the 6 Series coupes originally
designed by Paul Bracq, the company's chief of design in the early 70's.

Mr. Bangle, for his part, is happy to talk about the thinking behind his
redesigns of the 6 and 7 Series and especially, to explain the genesis of
the "Bangle butt." "I didn't want do a diagonal belt line again," he said,
tracing with his hand a line that runs from the headlights through the
middle of the car, basically where the windows meet the sheet metal on the
doors, and back through the taillights. Earlier BMW's had belt lines that
started low on the hood and angled up, creating a wedge shape that made the
cars look fast.

The 7 Series belt line is straight, more like car designs from the 1930's,
Mr. Bangle said. But that caused problems at the car's rear as he added more
space to the back seat passenger area. So Mr. Bangle raised the trunk (and
in doing so made the opening large enough to load golf bags easily, not an
insignificant consideration given the car's demographics).

But in the process he unleashed an outpouring of anger from thousands of BMW
lovers who had gotten used to design changes so evolutionary that they were
virtually invisible throughout much of the 90's.

Mr. Bangle argues that his designs are evolutionary, too. "I'm a believer in
the Stephen Jay Gould theory of evolution, where periods of equilibrium are
punctuated by major jumps," he said. "I like the large trunk opening. I'm
not thumbing my nose at anyone with the design."

And truth be told, many of the complaints about the 7 Series were about the
car's interior and controls, including the bewildering I-Drive system, in
which a single silver knob was toggled and rotated through a confusing menu
of radio and heating configurations. (Newer versions of the I-Drive are
easier to use.)

Even worse, critics said, on 7 Series cars the gearshift for the automatic
transmission was moved from the center console to the steering column.
"Without a central shift column, it didn't feel like a driver's car," Mrs.
Neuerman said.

Mr. Bangle contends that as people get used to his cars' innovations, they
begin to appreciate them. Not everyone agrees, of course. Online critics
have compared the new 6 Series to everything from Toyota's $20,000 Solara to
a Mercedes-Benz (an insult among BMW fans) and complained about its
"dropping nose and dragging butt."

But all the Sturm und Drang might just be a good thing, said Mark Nursey,
18, a college student from Michigan who drives an as-yet-un-Bangled 3
Series.

"He shook things up," Mr. Nursey said. "These cars simply don't look like
everything else on the road."


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:53:32 -0800
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NY Times article on Bangle 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Jan 25, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Dennis Liu wrote:
> Indeed, in 2003 sales of the 5 Series were up 15 percent over the 
> previous
> year. And the new $40,000 Z4 roadster has received high praise from 
> some
> critics, and more than 20,000 have been sold since it was introduced. 
> BMW
> says that it now makes up 40 percent of the luxury roadster market, 
> which
> also includes cars from Mercedes and Lexus.

I love these statistics.  Comparing the new models' sales to the 
immediately previous years, which were the last model years in a 
multi-year run.

I should friggin' hope the sales numbers are up.

What a softball.

- Mark
-----
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:37:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Joel Gallun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NY Times article on Bangle 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Mark Dadgar wrote:

> > BMW
> > says that it now makes up 40 percent of the luxury roadster market,
> > which
> > also includes cars from Mercedes and Lexus.

this line says even more. They now see Mercedes and Lexus as the real
competition. See you at the country club old chum. Or not. I'll be at the
track, with my old bmw, built back when they were still the ultimate
driving machine, rather than the ultimate golf bag transporting machine of
today.

joel


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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:04:36 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fw: E46 Spare Tire Question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>






My brother in law just bought  a 1999 328i with premium package.  My
question is regarding the spare tire.  Should it be 16 inch rim that
matches the rims on the car or should be a 15 inch tire with a steel rim?
He ended up with a 15 inch steel rim.  I suspect the dealer swapped it out
prior to delivery.  Will the 15 rim clear the brake rotor on the E46 non
sport package car?  Any advice?

Jerry Surzycia
1999 328i E46 with Sport Package 3

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:48:11 +0000
From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fw: E46 Spare Tire Question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jerry asks:

>My brother in law just bought  a 1999 328i with premium package....Will the 
>15 rim clear the brake >rotor on the E46 non sport package car?  Any 
>advice?
All E46 328s came with a 'full size spare' in the US. Which matched the OE 
wheels regardless of sport/premium. Standard wheel fitment was at least 16" 
as 15" wheels are said not to fit over the 328 brakes. Of course, if he 
didn't know the steel was in there when he purchased the car he may have 
little recourse.

Gilbert
1999 328i

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:37:59 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Remote Start for winter
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Other than the BMW anti-theft issue that has been discussed, you should
be able to get a remote starter for your car. You just need to find a
place that knows what they are doing - and supply you a remote
start unit MADE for manual transmission cars!  These are designed
with your safety in mind.  Most work like this:

1) Park the car, but leave it running in neutral
2) set the parking brake and take your foot off the brake pedal
3) Hit the "exit" button or switch - probably mounted on the console
or under the dash
4) turn off the key - the motor will continue running since you hit the
exit switch
5) this "proves" to the starter that the car is not in gear
6) get out, close up the car - you can remotely lock it if so equipped
7) turn off the car with the remote start remote

The system is now "armed" to start - since it knows the car is not in
gear.

This is a TON safer than trying to defeat the safety interlocks of the car
or remote starter. If you open the door - either with the key or remote
and have not remotely started the car, it will reset the starter where it
will not work until you go through the above steps. This was if you were
to knock the shifter into gear when you reached into the car to get something
out.

If you feel comfortable doing it yourself, DesignTech (and others) have
models made for manual transmission cars - and they have the car wiring
color codes posted on their web pages to help you out. If not, just find
a "good" shop and they should be able to fix you up.

I have had remote starters put in my wife's last two cars (both automatic
non-BMWs). They work great and she REALLY loves it!  Works super during
the heat of summer as well, get the car started cooling off before you
hop in.

Dennis

At 11:43 AM 01/25/2004 -0500, Ben Williams wrote:

>Has anybody tried to remote start a 96 328is or any other 3series that has a
>manual tranny?  This thing would be nice to have in the winter.  I tried to
>go to a local audio shop, but they will not install a remote start unit on a
>manual transmission because they can be held liable by your insurance if you
>leave it in gear and the car hits someone or something.  If I really want it
>that bad I either have to do it myself or find someone that will do it on
>the side, so any info appreciated.
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:09:58 -0000
From: "Stephen McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: M20 engine idle
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Greetings, UUC digesters.

Stephen McGrath here, back to the list after an absence of many years. My
BMW fanaticism got bumped several notches down the priority order by
marriage, move to Ireland, and new baby, so I've been making do with the
European variants of our favored marque and missing out on my daily fix of
digest activity.

I currently have a 1989 E30 320i with warm idle symptoms that are stumping
me, so I'm back to dip in the well of the digest's collective experience.
I'd greatly appreciate any experience on similar symptoms.

It's an M20 6-cylinder engine, pretty much identical to the 325i of the same
vintage - except it does not have a cat and thus has no oxygen sensor. For
points of reference (in the "does he know what the heck he's asking about?"
category), I have owned an 87 325is and an 89 M3 in the past, on both of
which I did all work - including things like suspension changes, exhausts,
head gasket, timing tensioners, bearings, etc. etc. so I am pretty familiar
with the workings of these great machines. (Really miss that M3, but there
is not much opportunity for track time here!)

Anyway, to the issue. The engine has 103k miles, and runs very well. Starts,
idles cold, pulls strongly. Recently it has developed a problem when at
operating temperature: it idles very smoothly, but hesitates when coming off
idle. Also when coming down to idle it dips briefly below idle speed before
coming back to normal idle. The hesitation coming off idle makes it
susceptible to stalling. These symptoms are far worse when under electrical
load (e.g lights and fan turned on).

No other symptoms, no hesitation when under power.

The symptoms point (to me) to a rich mixture at idle. Things I have checked
(and checked out ok):

1) OXS - does not have one.

2) replaced manifold intake boot, tightened all intake hose connections
(suspect intake air leak)

3) tested idle switch (also tried disconnecting it, the idle gets far more
unstable with it disconnected, implying that the signals are being received
by the Motronic unit.

4) coolant sensor resistance vs. temperature

5) resistance of airflow sensor coming off idle

Around the time this started happening, I replaced the Nicads in the service
interval board because several of the LEDs were permanently on, which had
drained the battery after sitting over Christmas for 3 weeks.  I don't
believe this is relevant, but it is the only substantive change (other than
the fact that the car had sat for 3 weeks and the battery had run completely
flat).

I sprayed carb cleaner around the manifold hoses, brake booster hose, and
fuel injectors - no noticeable effect on idle speed. I see no other evidence
of a vacuum leak, but it's about the only thing that makes sense to me.
Anyone got any other ideas? I guess it could be an injector, but as I said
it runs very strongly and the cold idle is perfect.

Could a weak battery cause this? I don't see how, but I guess it could be
drawing a lot more alternator current than it should.

Anyone know of an easy way to tell if the brake booster has a vacuum leak?
The pedal is firm and does not change resistance when it is held pressed.

Any other experiences are appreciated.

Thanks,

Stephen



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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:58:26 -0500
From: "Jason O'Dell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [E34] M50tu water pump failure datapoint
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

our M50tu also had wp failure at about 100K, car is 11/92 build date, but 
interestingly has 2 hydro tensioners. apparently there was a change in 
there, cuz I got the wrong parts last week when I went swap a noisy 
tensioner, now at 138K. New belts, and all 3 rollers, now it's quiet and the 
parts were only about $75 from BMA. Now, I just need to get around to 
rewiring that tailgate...

93 525iTA

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:02:15 -0000
From: "Bancroft, Simon [OPS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E28 Questions - Engine and Gearbox swap !
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear all, HELP !

I have a LHD drive E28 M535iA that I brought over from Frankfurt, Germany that needs a 
new Cam, Valves and the Auto is on the way out.
There is a RHD M535i manual I can get, with a cheap price down the road ...  here near 
to London.
Is it feasible to do an engine and gearbox swap? I need to keep aircon as this is too 
difficult to swap, and my interior is immaculate. My body shell only needs a couple of 
parts and I could take the best of them from this other one ....
I'm only a shade tree mechanic, but I am confident of doing Cam and valves, but have 
never done a gearbox b4, let alone change an auto to manual. 
Am I dreaming, or is this a possibility? Your thoughts are needed please! HELP! 

This sale ends soon and I'm desperate for urgent replies! I don't want to miss it ...
Thanks for your input, 

Banners
Member #053 E28 SIG group. North London, UK.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:22:22 -0500
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bancroft, Simon [OPS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E28 Questions - Engine and Gearbox swap !
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There should be no problems with swapping the engine/trans from the RHD car
to your LHD car.

If your car has AC, just leave the system intact.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----
> I have a LHD drive E28 M535iA that I brought over from Frankfurt,
> Germany that needs a new Cam, Valves and the Auto is on the way out.
> There is a RHD M535i manual I can get, with a cheap price down
> the road ...  here near to London.
> Is it feasible to do an engine and gearbox swap? I need to keep
> aircon as this is too difficult to swap, and my interior is
> immaculate. My body shell only needs a couple of parts and I
> could take the best of them from this other one ....
> I'm only a shade tree mechanic, but I am confident of doing Cam
> and valves, but have never done a gearbox b4, let alone change an
> auto to manual.
> Am I dreaming, or is this a possibility? Your thoughts are needed
> please! HELP!




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