The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 17 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: E34 Door lock problem Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Re: Convertible top- Is this right? 1993 730i Battery DEAD!! Re: 1993 730i Battery DEAD! & E34 door lock problem Re: 1993 730i Battery DEAD! & E34 door lock problem Re: 1993 730i Battery DEAD!! Re: Found an M3-Update Re: Front tires sizes/ testing ABS thresholds/ was:Found an M3 =?iso-8859-1?q?Your_opinion_please...=AD.?= Re: Your opinion please...�. =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_=5BUUC=5D__Your_opinion_please...=AD.?=
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 00:10:06 -0800 From: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E34 Door lock problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Stick a key in either front door. Apply gentle pressure as if you were unlocking then lift up slowly on the door handle. You may have to work it a few times, but you will begin to feel it catch and the door will unlock. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > My '89 E34 535i's battery died and now I can't open the driver or > passenger door locks. The trunk will open, but nothing associated w/ > turning the key in the lock works on the doors. Is getting under the > hood (how do you do that) the only way to get the door open? > > Thanks > > Evan > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 06:18:33 -0800 From: Brad Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'E3'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ed: It appears the top is not folded correctly, and it is sticking out from under the boot. That is preventing the boot from coming down all the way. I would ask them to demonstrate the opening and closing a couple times, while you watch. In case you aren't familiar with the sequence, from closed to open: 1. Front and rear disconnect from the car 2. Rear lifts up 3. Boot lifts up 4. Rear goes down 5. Rest of top goes down inside well. 6. Boot Goes down and covers everything. It looks like an E36. The early ones them came with manual tops, but I believe all the newer ones came with automatic tops and ROPS. Looks like you don't have ROPS on this. There may be a strap or something that helps make the top fold correctly, perhaps that is broken. There is a pull handle under the back seat that if you pull it, you disconnect the automatic motors from the top. This is for emergency use (ask me how I know). There is a procedure for resetting the motors. You basically go in the trunk and push them back in place and cycle the top a couple times until they are synchronized. PS Still have the M3? Brad Houser > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E3 > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 9:12 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [UUC] Convertible top- Is this right? > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Convertible top- Is this right? > > I'm considering buying a 95 325iC in Santa Clara. I noticed > that the rood > doesn't quite look right when folded down. Can you take a look at the > picture here: > > http://www.ecubed.com/BMW325iC-1.jpg > > and let me know your thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Ed > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:57:58 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brad, What is ROPS? I've got a '94 325ic and I've never heard of it. Thanks, Brian -----Original Message----- From: Brad Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It looks like an E36. The early ones them came with manual tops, but I believe all the newer ones came with automatic tops and ROPS. Looks like you don't have ROPS on this. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:51:06 -0600 From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ROPS is the RollOver Protection System - the pop-up rollbars behind the rear seat headrests. Malcolm '88 M5 '98 328i -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Daley Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 8:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Convertible top- Is this right? Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brad, What is ROPS? I've got a '94 325ic and I've never heard of it. Thanks, Brian -----Original Message----- From: Brad Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It looks like an E36. The early ones them came with manual tops, but I believe all the newer ones came with automatic tops and ROPS. Looks like you don't have ROPS on this. ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:33:06 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----Original Message----- >From: Malcolm Reitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Feb 9, 2004 10:51 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [UUC] Convertible top- Is this right? > >ROPS is the RollOver Protection System - the pop-up rollbars behind the >rear seat headrests. Thanks. I probably should have been able to figure that one out, considering I have it! I'm not sure how effective it would really be though. Seems like you're still going to smack your head on the pavement which would pretty much ruin your day, much more so than hitting the headliner of a hardtop. Not that I really need any more incentive to keep the car shiny-side up. When I bought the car I just accepted that there was an additional element of risk vs. a coupe. According to NHTSA only about 3% of all crashes result in a rollover although, unsurprisingly, they account for a disproportionate (33%) percentage of fatalities. Considering that the 3% figure includes vehicles much more prone to rollover such as SUVs, the real incremental risk is pretty small. Realistically I'm probably at much greater risk from other drivers not seeing me. I've found that with the top down when other drivers don't see the greenhouse they're looking for they assume you're not there. Of course being aware of this goes a long way - defensive driving has saved my sheetmetal (at least) on more than a few occasions. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:35:14 -0600 From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian, I hope you never have to find out how effective the ROPS is :-). I have spoken with a guy (and seen pictures of the car) who rolled his 325iC with 3 passengers in it. The ROPS hoops popped out through the back window, as the top was up, and all four people were basically unscathed. They were wearing seat belts, of course. Malcolm '88 M5 '98 328i-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Daley Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 11:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Convertible top- Is this right? Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- >From: Malcolm Reitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Feb 9, 2004 10:51 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [UUC] Convertible top- Is this right? > >ROPS is the RollOver Protection System - the pop-up rollbars behind the >rear seat headrests. Thanks. I probably should have been able to figure that one out, considering I have it! I'm not sure how effective it would really be though. Seems like you're still going to smack your head on the pavement which would pretty much ruin your day, much more so than hitting the headliner of a hardtop. Not that I really need any more incentive to keep the car shiny-side up. When I bought the car I just accepted that there was an additional element of risk vs. a coupe. According to NHTSA only about 3% of all crashes result in a rollover although, unsurprisingly, they account for a disproportionate (33%) percentage of fatalities. Considering that the 3% figure includes vehicles much more prone to rollover such as SUVs, the real incremental risk is pretty small. Realistically I'm probably at much greater risk from other drivers not seeing me. I've found that with the top down when other drivers don't see the greenhouse they're looking for they assume you're not there. Of ! course being aware of this goes a long way - defensive driving has saved my sheetmetal (at least) on more than a few occasions. Brian ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:43:16 -0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 1993 730i Battery DEAD!! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Folks, I have an 1993 730i... The battery went flat a few days ago and I am unable to open the door since!!! Any ideas how I could gain access to this... Cheers, Eddie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:45:50 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 1993 730i Battery DEAD! & E34 door lock problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Two for one. Both have the same answer. 1. Passenger front door, insert key, turn key to unlock as you pull up on handle. When key stops turning, apply pressure and the door should mechanically unlock. It takes some force on the key, so, of course, there's always the risk of breaking it. Not my problem if you do. 2. Open trunk, hook battery charger to trunk light wires and leave for an hour or so. That'll give you enough power to unlock the doors. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 9:43 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [UUC] 1993 730i Battery DEAD!! > Importance: High > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Hi Folks, > I have an 1993 730i... > The battery went flat a few days ago and I am unable to open the door > since!!! > Any ideas how I could gain access to this... > > Cheers, > Eddie > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 16:06:58 -0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 1993 730i Battery DEAD! & E34 door lock problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cheers Brett, I'll give it a go.. Eddie -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Anderson Sent: 09 February 2004 15:46 To: UUC Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] 1993 730i Battery DEAD! & E34 door lock problem Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Two for one. Both have the same answer. 1. Passenger front door, insert key, turn key to unlock as you pull up on handle. When key stops turning, apply pressure and the door should mechanically unlock. It takes some force on the key, so, of course, there's always the risk of breaking it. Not my problem if you do. 2. Open trunk, hook battery charger to trunk light wires and leave for an hour or so. That'll give you enough power to unlock the doors. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 9:43 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [UUC] 1993 730i Battery DEAD!! > Importance: High > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Hi Folks, > I have an 1993 730i... > The battery went flat a few days ago and I am unable to open the door > since!!! Any ideas how I could gain access to this... > > Cheers, > Eddie > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . > http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:52:43 -0600 From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 1993 730i Battery DEAD!! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eddie, Assuming your cars is like most I've seen, turn the key while gently pulling up on the door handle. Malcolm '88 M5 '98 328i -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UUC] 1993 730i Battery DEAD!! Importance: High Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Folks, I have an 1993 730i... The battery went flat a few days ago and I am unable to open the door since!!! Any ideas how I could gain access to this... Cheers, Eddie ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:19:08 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Found an M3-Update Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree with the suggestion to keep the stock springs, > and change > the alignment a bit. However just switching the front tires to the > readily available stock '95 size of 235/40 will cure some of the > inherent understeer that BMW's lawyers insist on. > Better than the 235/40 is the new 245/35x17 that the Goodyear > F1 comes > in. Recently installed them and they're as good a daily > driver street > tire as I could imagine. > Their smaller diameter will lower the front > 1/2 inch. I have heard mixed reviews on the Goodyear F1. That is interesting it comes in a 235/35/17. I thought 235/40/17 was a low profile. The smaller diameter front tire is a bad idea, particularly with a 96+ M3 where you have to worry about the traction control along with the ABS and having dissimilar diameters front and rear. I would not go with a 235/35/17 due to potential issues with traction control/ABS along with having too low a profile tire for street use. > For tire pressure, scrape that sticker of the door pillar > right now. > For both better handling and to protect against dented rims, I use > 40+psi on the front and 36+psi on the rear. Funny your worried about this as it is contradictory with going with the lower profile tires in the front. The stock size gives you about a 3.7" sidewall where your recommendation gets down to 3.2"...this doesn't bode well to keep those rims straight (same reason I don't like 235/35/18 on the front). No amount of tire pressure in the world will fully protect you when riding on rubber band tires. > Remove the air restrictor cone from the air filter box, if the previous > owner didn't do that already. I removed it from mine before I drove off > the dealer's lot. I don't buy this at all. The cone isn't restrictive. > I think you may not need to replace the rear springs. Current factory > springs hold true extremely well over time, and if you've noticed less > wheel well gap on the rear than the front, its by design. This is one part I agree with, I highly doubt there are any issues with your rear springs if they are stock. Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 11:10:08 -0800 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Front tires sizes/ testing ABS thresholds/ was:Found an M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> re: tires sizes Rich, The new Goodyear F1 size is 245/35x17, your posting stated 235x35. Yes the sidewall is shorter and the F1 has a stiff thick rubber reinforcement on the sidewall. Higher air pressures drastically reduce the chance of denting a front rim. If I hit something severe enough that it dents my rim, then the little bit of sidewall wouln't have made a difference however you're right, it is an increased risk Most tire sizes on new BMWs nowadays were considered high performance rubber band profiles just ten years ago. Please see the archives for the past ABS threads on different tire diameters. The best way to test the threshold that BMW programs into the ASC/ABS/DSC traction control systems is that it must at a minimum not engage when a tire goes flat. Try it! Let the air out of one front tire. (I tested this with a worn out 235/40 front tire before going to get the 245/35s just to be sure. Drive around the block. If the ABS doesn't engage with a flat tire at 2 or three inches less effective diameter, this verifies there is enough system tolerance for a tire that is only one inch smaller. The restrictor cone and intake air baffle are known to hurt performance. They are easy to reinstall if you don't like the effects of removing them. There's a website which has been listed on this digest in the past (anyone still know the link?) that shows flow bench testing on various possible intake components. Barry >I have heard mixed reviews on the Goodyear F1. That is interesting it comes in a >235/35/17. I > >thought 235/40/17 was a low profile. > >The smaller diameter front tire is a bad idea, particularly with a 96+ M3 where you >have to worry about the traction control along with the ABS and having dissimilar >diameters front and rear. I would not go with a 235/35/17 due to potential issues >with traction control/ABS along with having too low a profile tire for street use. >. > > >. > > --------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:59:20 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[uucdigest]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Your_opinion_please...=AD.?= Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you for providing me your opinion about this way of transaction...? (Sounds bizarre to me...) Pat. (Thanks for your mail.I have made conclusive arrangements with my client and he has agreed to pay $4,100.He says he has instructed someone who is owing him $14,100 in Canada to send a check to you.After you have received the check and cashed it,you are required to deduct your $4,100 and refund the balance which will be used to offset shipping charges and other outstanding charges.The shipment will be handled by a prepaid shipper. In view of the above situation,you are required to provide for me your house mailing address as well as your contact telephone number because it will be sent through courier service. I await to hear from you soon. Regards,) -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:59:32 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Your opinion please...�. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's a scam. The check bounces after you've paid them the "difference". Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 1:59 PM > To: [uucdigest] > Subject: [UUC] Your opinion please...�. > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thank you for providing me your opinion about this way of transaction...? > (Sounds bizarre to me...) > > Pat. > > (Thanks for your mail.I have made conclusive arrangements with my > client and he has agreed to pay $4,100.He says he has instructed > someone who is owing him $14,100 in Canada to send a check to > you.After you have received the check and cashed it,you are > required to deduct your $4,100 and refund the balance which will > be used to offset shipping charges and other outstanding > charges.The shipment will be handled by a prepaid shipper. > > In view of the above situation,you are required to provide for me > your house mailing address as well as your contact telephone > number because it will be sent through courier service. > I await to hear from you soon. > Regards,) > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:16:14 -0500 From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_=5BUUC=5D__Your_opinion_please...=AD.?= Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This 'scam' has been around for a while. I put it in quotes because you have to throw all intelligence out the window to actually get taken. Off the bat, it sounds completely ridiculous, they are going to send you...someone they don't know or have never met, an extra such and such dollars...usually thousands? I am a car dealer and have had several people try this. I say...excellent, send me a check, when the funds clear, we're cool...I'll send you the difference. I never hear back from them. :-) Alex Cagann > > Thank you for providing me your opinion about this way of > transaction...? > > (Sounds bizarre to me...) > > > > Pat. > > > > (Thanks for your mail.I have made conclusive arrangements with my > > client and he has agreed to pay $4,100.He says he has instructed > > someone who is owing him $14,100 in Canada to send a check to > > you.After you have received the check and cashed it,you are > > required to deduct your $4,100 and refund the balance which will > > be used to offset shipping charges and other outstanding > > charges.The shipment will be handled by a prepaid shipper. > > > > In view of the above situation,you are required to provide for me > > your house mailing address as well as your contact telephone > > number because it will be sent through courier service. > > I await to hear from you soon. > > Regards,) ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
