The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 19 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Car Update and Return Re: Car Update and Return Scams FS: Alarm from '93 E36 325i Re: The Bug is biting Re: The Bug is biting Re: The Bug is biting quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Re: quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Re: quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Re: quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Re: quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Re: E30 Central Locking M3 Mirror Lights FW: Cars
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 12:48:11 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Car Update and Return Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:16:56 -0600 From: "Celisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sez: SNIP my insurance Allstate would only repair what they saw. The tech men told me, that fought with Allstate telling them if they didn't fix, what ever the part was in the steering that was another extra 1,000 dollars, that it would not drive correctly. SNIP The tech got in the car and drove it, and noticed right away what I was saying. The car would not return from a turn, Celisa, This explanation seems totally bogus to me. First, the shop that repaired the car didn't test drive it when they had it back together? Or, they did drive it and didn't notice what was immediately obvious to you? Second, In my experience, there are a lot of accidents in which everything broken is not immediately visible, but only shows up when the car is apart. Insurance companies always have to send an adjuster to look at the "hidden damage". My money is on the shop being out to lunch. Check the car thoroughly when you get it back the second time, maybe even have someone you trust drive it and look at it on a lift to be sure it's fixed right. Jon __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:24:39 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Car Update and Return Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Celisa, I would call Allstate on this one. While I think Allstate is the lowest of the low when it comes to insurance companies, they have lawyers who specifically try to prevent this. In my experience with Allstate, they won't go behind your back, they'll come straight to you & tell you you're being screwed. If you contact Allstate & confirm one way or another who is to blame for this, then you can act accordingly. If Allstate isn't the one to blame, then you have every right to request that they have the car checked by a 2nd shop, & NOT AT YOUR COST. When I was in college, a drunk lady hit my truck in PC, FL. The truck was undrivable & therefore had to be repaired there, 200+ from where I was. 3 guesses on to what happened & the first 2 don't count. Basically, that shop had the truck for 4 months, rang up an $11k repair bill (more than it was new) & then gave it back to me not fixed right. Out of the couple hundred things they did wrong, two of the big ones were hammering the steering column back into shape, while charging the ins for a new one. The other was charging the ins. over $4k for new airbag stuff (airbag deployed) when all they did was yank out the old stuff & cover the light. Had I been in another accident, these would've been very bad. Because I was waaaay too nice & somewhat naive it took 6 months to get everything straightened out. BTW, the owner of the dealer that did the work in FL is having to be real careful about holding on to the soap right about now--ins. companies love nothing more than going after fraudulent shops. I would say to be a real pain to everybody about this. Don't make any threats (never mention the word "lawyer" within earshot of an ins rep), but be very unweilding. It doesn't matter whose fault the accident was, the car should still be fixed correctly--don't fall for the common ins rep catch phrase, "I sure you can settle for...." Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. If the dealer has knowingly (or unknowingly) done something wrong, the ins. company will go after them like jackals. If it was the ins company, sick the dealer on them, as they caused the dealer to do work which compromised your safety as well, making them equally liable. I bet you'll find the ins company is in the right here......uuuuuuggggghhhh--it really sends shivers to think an ins company is more on the up & up. Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Celisa > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 21:17 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [UUC] Car Update and Return > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Well folks, thanks so much for everyones advice on my car. I > took it back to > the dealership today. You would not believe what I was told. > Of course all > you guys know, the car was wrecked and the steering was > totally effected. > Would you believe, my insurance Allstate would only repair > what they saw. > The tech men told me, that fought with Allstate telling them > if they didn't > fix, what ever the part was in the steering that was another > extra 1,000 > dollars, that it would not drive correctly. I read everything > and checked > the things that you guys mentioned, but now that they know > that the car is > not drivable, they are going to fix it. Why in the world > didn't they do it > right the first time. I've taken the car back to the shop " > Moritz BMW" for > the 3rd time. Just letting everyone know they sure didn't > refuse to fix it. > The tech got in the car and drove it, and noticed right away > what I was > saying. The car would not return from a turn, the insurance > company refused > to fix this, if I had another accident, I woud I would have > sued Allstate, > if I be living, if not, my family would have, because I told > them of the > problem. Thanks again for everyones advice, it was greatly appeciated. > > Celisa > '99 328is > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:18:42 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Scams Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I had a guy from Nigeria email me about some wheels I had for sale. It was > the exact same scam and even the awkward grammar were familiar, but... Awkward grammar indeed. ;-) Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 2004 14:25:36 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FS: Alarm from '93 E36 325i Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For Sale: no-name aftermarket alarm from '93 E36 325i Plugs into BMW wiring harness. Worked when removed from a '93 325i. Probably fits '92-'95 E36, but that's just my guess. Includes installation manual, brain, shock sensor of some kind, alarm horn, console LED, and two remotes. $50 including UPS Ground shipping in the lower 48. Curt Ingraham Oakland, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 15:22:43 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The Bug is biting Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Bora Akyol (BMW) wrote: > Evo VIII if you can live with the wing and punk kids wanting to race you at > every stop light. I got one in Rally Red and it is nice. The brembo brakes > work well and the power is enough and revs to 7800 rpms. Bora, Many cars today (even the Acura TL!) are coming with these Brembo multi-piston racing-style big brake kits, which appear to me to be mostly for show --- the TL has tiny little, non-vented discs for the rear which seems incongruous to its front Brembos. I wonder what car owners will think of the big bills they'll get when it's time to change rotors --- a friend with a Nissan 350Z Track model, which has the Brembo BBK stock, was quoted about $400 for one rotor. Are these rotors always this expensive? Are there any places that sell them at a discount? ObBMW: I love the fact that the total parts cost for a 4-wheel brake job on my E46 3 is well under $300. It won't stop as well the 5th or 6th time from 100 MPH as some of those Brembo BBKs, but some ducting ought to cure that, and I'm not sure how many TL owners are hauling their cars down from 100 MPH repeatedly. --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:09:32 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Bug is biting Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andre Yew wrote: > Many cars today (even the Acura TL!) are coming with these Brembo > multi-piston racing-style big brake kits, which appear to me to be mostly > for show --- the TL has tiny little, non-vented discs for the rear which > seems incongruous to its front Brembos. both the Evo & STi have correctly sized (large) rears w/two piston calipers. they work quite well on the track, tho the pads fade after a while. the STi's pads are Jurids, the Evo's are a brembo-branded compound of some sort. friend of mine who works at Subaru compared the Evo's & STi's pads on the track in the same car (STi) and the Evo's weren't as good. note that while the calipers on the STi, Evo & G35/350Z all look similar they are actually different. the Evo uses a thicker pad & rotor, tho not to a great degree. pad area is the same tho, so it's a fade-resistance thing rather than stopping power. the Evo's marginally better magazine test braking performance is likely due to a slightly wider tire. > I wonder what car owners will think of the big bills they'll get when > it's time to change rotors --- a friend with a Nissan 350Z Track > model, which has the Brembo BBK stock, was quoted about $400 > for one rotor. Are these rotors always this expensive? > Are there any places that sell them at a discount? the rotors for the STi also run ~$400 at dealer list, but there are likely dealer who discount as well as other replacements. IIRC you can get Brembo replacements for the STi for around $200 each. still not cheap but not nearly as hard to swallow as the dealer price. the Brembos are about 85% easier to change pads in than the single-piston BMW calipers. I think I spend more time jacking the car up and getting the wheels off than the actual pad changing. Ben 34 pistons worth of calipers on cars ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:32:43 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The Bug is biting Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You need larger wheels so you can change the pads through the spokes. Gary Derian > > the Brembos are about 85% easier to change pads in than the single-piston > BMW calipers. I think I spend more time jacking the car up and getting > the wheels off than the actual pad changing. > > > > Ben > 34 pistons worth of calipers on cars ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:20:21 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], E36M3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Folks, I need a quick reality check on the TireRack-praised Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 tires. Our E36 wife-mobile needs new shoes and the GS-D3's has received high marks from TireRack's user survey. In fact, they scored higher than S03's with significant supporting mileage history. I'm a little suspicious of the Goodyear products, but at $157 a piece I am tempted to do a little experiment on her car. FWIW, she does at least 1 DE and a few autoXs a year. Wet traction is not much of a concern in TX, but I would still like to not have to worry about hydroplaning. Has anyone had GS-D3 tires for any length of time? How do you like them in comparison to S03's or Michelin Pilot Sports? Plan 'A' were the S03's, but TR had recently yanked the price on them back up to $192/piece. -- alex f ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:55:52 -0500 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E36M3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wanna try something? Consider the Ecsta MX. $104 (!!) apiece. Just put a set on the wife-mobile 996. Haven't, of course, driven on them yet, given the lousy weather, but heard good things about them. Very optimistic. vty, --Dennis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 9:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; E36M3 Subject: [UUC] quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, I need a quick reality check on the TireRack-praised Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 tires. Our E36 wife-mobile needs new shoes and the GS-D3's has received high marks from TireRack's user survey. In fact, they scored higher than S03's with significant supporting mileage history. I'm a little suspicious of the Goodyear products, but at $157 a piece I am tempted to do a little experiment on her car. FWIW, she does at least 1 DE and a few autoXs a year. Wet traction is not much of a concern in TX, but I would still like to not have to worry about hydroplaning. Has anyone had GS-D3 tires for any length of time? How do you like them in comparison to S03's or Michelin Pilot Sports? Plan 'A' were the S03's, but TR had recently yanked the price on them back up to $192/piece. -- alex f __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:14:24 -0800 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], E36M3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Have the MX on the rears. Nice traction but done cheaply with faster wearing lower tread depth softer compound, and uneven manners at the limits. A max performance class tire but not up to expectations. Having tried them first is what led me to decide to spend the extra bucks and get the F1s. When they're worn I'm going to replace them with F1s. Barry Dennis Liu wrote: >Wanna try something? Consider the Ecsta MX. $104 (!!) apiece. Just put a >set on the wife-mobile 996. Haven't, of course, driven on them yet, given >the lousy weather, but heard good things about them. Very optimistic. >vty, >--Dennis > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:44:01 -0800 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], E36M3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> re: Goodyear F1 G3-DS Tires Alex, I've put 3k miles on Goodyear 245/35x17 F1 GS-D3 tires on the front of my stock spring/Koni strut //E36 M3. I too had the trepidation about Goodyear, last time I bought the winged foot was when the tires were called WingFoot. These tires are superior to the Michelins I had before in all regards. They are rated treadware 280, spec to 11/32" center down to 6/32" at the outer edges. They've worn about 1 to 1.5/32" in the center, about <1/32" on the edges (measured with a gauge). The turn in bites nicely, the ride quality at 42psi is too smooth for a tire of this low a profile. One consideration in trying the 35 series rather than 40 or 45 was the lower price, $150. w/m&b included at the local Goodyear store which had them in stock in most sizes. TR couldn't get them. Goodyear is stocking plenty to their own stores. If there's a problem to these tiers, its in getting them balanced just right. They are __So sensitive. You may want to have the rim and tire marked for best positioning on a machine capable of doing this, that's what it took to get my pair riding right at higher speeds. Cornering feel seemed greasy for the first few hundred miles, after that they really grip well. This time of year in CA is a concern for wet traction, and they're more tire in wet than I have the nerve to try, not hydroplaning in heavy rain up to 75mph. Do go with these tires, seems the guys with the Blimp got it right this time. Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Folks, >I need a quick reality check on the TireRack-praised Goodyear Eagle F1 >GS-D3 tires. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:37:09 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My buddy actually preferred these to the factory Goodyears (F1's I believe) on his Z06. He used the MX's at VIR & thought they were only a little off track tires performance-wise. It could be that the low price leads to more variability than higher priced tires. I think I have this with the Ecsta 712's. I think they're quite good tires, but others really hate them. Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jkerouac > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 23:14 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; E36M3 > Subject: Re: [UUC] quick reality check on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 tires > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Have the MX on the rears. Nice traction but done cheaply with faster > wearing lower tread depth softer compound, and uneven manners at the > limits. A max performance class tire but not up to expectations. > Having tried them first is what led me to decide to spend the extra > bucks and get the F1s. When they're worn I'm going to > replace them with > F1s. > Barry > > Dennis Liu wrote: > > >Wanna try something? Consider the Ecsta MX. $104 (!!) > apiece. Just put a > >set on the wife-mobile 996. Haven't, of course, driven on > them yet, given > >the lousy weather, but heard good things about them. Very > optimistic. > >vty, > >--Dennis > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:42:04 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E30 Central Locking Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rich, On the broken section of pot metal which activates the switch you can either re-attach the piece of metal with an epoxy like JB Weld or fashion a new extension out of aluminum (a u shape) and epoxy that onto the old tab. -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:44:38 -0800 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: M3 Mirror Lights Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The BMW M3 lights below would look great in any garage (or house for the single guys). Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 http://www.exoticar.com/pages/showroom_2.cfm?cat=Big%20Boy%20Toys ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 04:28:46 -0800 From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "E21 Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E9coupes BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Senior Six Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sixer coupe Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FW: Cars Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Interesting tidbits but not surprising... > > Retained value after 5 years: > > Top 10 Bottom 10 > BMW Z8 54% Hyundai Accent 20% > Mercedes Benz C class 54% Kia Spectra 22% > Mini Cooper 53% Chevrolet Cavalier 23% > Porsche 911 53% Dodge Neon 23% > Porsche Boxster 53% GMC Sonoma 23% > Lexus SC430 52% Dodge Intrepid 24% > Acura TL 52% Pontiac Sunfire 24% > Honda s2000 52% Pontiac Grand Am 24% > Dodge Viper 52% Chevrolet S-10 24% > Lexus GS300 52% Dodge Stratus 24% > > Source: Edmunds.com > > ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
