Hi Stathis Papaioannou  

Try to define consciousness. If you can't,
how do you know that a computer is conscious ?

  


Roger Clough, [email protected] 
9/24/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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From: Stathis Papaioannou  
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Time: 2012-09-24, 08:38:48 
Subject: Re: Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment 


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Roger Clough  wrote: 
> Hi Stathis Papaioannou 
> 
> You need a self or observer to be conscious, and computers 
> have no self. So they can't be conscious. 
> 
> Consciousness = a subject looking at, or aware of, an object. 
> 
> Computers have no subject. 

So where do you get the idea that computers have no self, no subject 
and can't be observers or be conscious? You may as well claim that 
women aren't conscious but just act as if they are conscious, like an 
advanced computer pretending to have a self. 


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