Hi Stephen P. King You people think that judging is racism. But we cannot live without making judgments.
Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/25/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-24, 12:01:47 Subject: Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment On 9/24/2012 10:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 24 Sep 2012, at 16:13, Roger Clough wrote: > >> Hi Bruno Marchal >> >> A computer being not conscious ? All computer operations >> (to my mind,probably not yours) are actual (in spacetime). >> But consciousness is an inherent (mental, not in spacetime) >> activity. > > All right, in that sense a computer cannot think. I agree, but a brain > cannot think too, nor any body. They can only manifest consciousness, > which, we agree on this, is in Platonia. > > Computer can support a knowing self, like a brain, unless you decide > not, but then it looks like arbitrary racism. You just decide that > some entities cannot think, because *you* fail to recognize yourself > in them. > > You could at least say that you don't know, or give argument, but you > just repeat that brain can support consciousness and that silicon > cannot, without giving an atom of justification. This can't be serious. > > >> >> Cs = subject + object >> >> A computer has no inherent realms, no conscious self or observer. >> >> Instead, a computer is all object (completely in the objective realm), >> no subject. > > You can implement a self-transformative software on computers. > > You should be more careful and study a bit of computer science before > judging computers, especially if you assert strong negative statements > about them. > > Bruno > > Hi Roger, I agree with Bruno's remarks. -- Onward! Stephen http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
