Hi Stephen P. King  

You people think that judging is racism.
But we cannot live without making judgments.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
9/25/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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From: Stephen P. King  
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Time: 2012-09-24, 12:01:47 
Subject: Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment 


On 9/24/2012 10:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: 
> 
> On 24 Sep 2012, at 16:13, Roger Clough wrote: 
> 
>> Hi Bruno Marchal 
>> 
>> A computer being not conscious ? All computer operations 
>> (to my mind,probably not yours) are actual (in spacetime). 
>> But consciousness is an inherent (mental, not in spacetime) 
>> activity. 
> 
> All right, in that sense a computer cannot think. I agree, but a brain  
> cannot think too, nor any body. They can only manifest consciousness,  
> which, we agree on this, is in Platonia. 
> 
> Computer can support a knowing self, like a brain, unless you decide  
> not, but then it looks like arbitrary racism. You just decide that  
> some entities cannot think, because *you* fail to recognize yourself  
> in them. 
> 
> You could at least say that you don't know, or give argument, but you  
> just repeat that brain can support consciousness and that silicon  
> cannot, without giving an atom of justification. This can't be serious. 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Cs = subject + object 
>> 
>> A computer has no inherent realms, no conscious self or observer. 
>> 
>> Instead, a computer is all object (completely in the objective realm), 
>> no subject. 
> 
> You can implement a self-transformative software on computers. 
> 
> You should be more careful and study a bit of computer science before  
> judging computers, especially if you assert strong negative statements  
> about them. 
> 
> Bruno 
> 
> 
Hi Roger, 

     I agree with Bruno's remarks. 

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Onward! 

Stephen 

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