On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:28 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
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>
>> What makes it "your state"?  It's just a bunch of programs. Why those
>> programs and not others?
>>
>
> It's the set of programs that implements the body/brain used to construct
> my inner world.
>
>
> But that doesn't explain why there is such a thing as "your inner world"
> that is separate from "my inner world".  Why don't the programs produce
> overlapping or mixing "inner worlds".
>
>
My inner world is constructed from the signals originating inside my body,
not yours or anyone else's. My consciousness corresponds with the activity
happening inside my brain, not yours.


>  Just like a dog. But a kid knows his name (learned) and can answer the
>> question, "why did you do that?". The answer to that question is also
>> largely learned. We are told who to be, what's right, wrong, appropriate,
>> taboo, etc., for the culture we grow up in. IOW why I do something is
>> filtered through learned cultural constructs. Most of the time the answer
>> amounts to a justification in terms of what's appropriate, logical, or some
>> other descriptor that benefits me in some way relative to the implicit
>> values I'm socialized to.  This form of self-image is of a higher order
>> than whatever self-image my dog has.
>>
>>
> I don't disagree with any of that, but I don't see that any of it is
> entailed by there being the infinite programs of the UD.
>

Yeah, I agree. The UDA assumes consciousness. The AUDA argument formalizes
a notion of qualia, but the machines involved there are too simple to say
anything about the diversity of consciousnesses in the much more
complicated machines actually realized in the world. I consider the ideas
I'm talking about here to be separate, but compatible with the UDA/AUDA.

Terren


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