Re: Tooltips

2003-07-08 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 3:22:43 AM, you wrote:

TF Hello Jeanny,

TF On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:56:45 -0500 GMT (08/07/03, 00:56 +0700 GMT),
TF Jeanny House wrote:

 By tooltips do you mean tip of the day?

TF No, I mean the short description what an icon does when you hover over
TF it with the mouse (without clicking). But thanks anyway.

Just The Bat! that hasn't any tooltips? Or other programs too?

M
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Re: Tooltips

2003-07-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Martin,

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:12:29 +0100 GMT (08/07/03, 14:12 +0700 GMT),
Martin Webster wrote:

TF No, I mean the short description what an icon does when you hover over
TF it with the mouse (without clicking). But thanks anyway.

 Just The Bat! that hasn't any tooltips? Or other programs too?

Just TB. Other programs show the tooltips OK.

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Re:drag/drop

2003-07-08 Thread Mark
S What action do you wish to take with the composite message with all
S headers intact?

One reason would be for formal documentation outside of TB! As
another example there are various programs that will accept
pasting of text including email-like headers, and will then use
those headers in an intelligent way to sort/triage/retrieve bits
of information. The best example is the fantastic information
management Zoot (the sort of people who like TB! will like this
as well).

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Re: Tooltips

2003-07-08 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 you wrote:

TF No, I mean the short description what an icon does when you hover over
TF it with the mouse (without clicking). But thanks anyway.

 Just The Bat! that hasn't any tooltips? Or other programs too?

 Just TB. Other programs show the tooltips OK.

Well they show fine here on all my icons in whatever box I'm using at
the time. Had a look through options and can't see where they are
set. I just thought they were there by default but obviously not.

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Re: Tooltips

2003-07-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Richard,

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:15:18 +0100 GMT (08/07/03, 15:15 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

 Just TB. Other programs show the tooltips OK.

 Well they show fine here on all my icons in whatever box I'm using at
 the time. Had a look through options and can't see where they are
 set. I just thought they were there by default but obviously not.

I think in an old TB version there was on option to turn them off. But
now they should be turned on default, you're right.

I just went through the RIT registry key and couldn't find any hint,
either.

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Re: Tooltips

2003-07-08 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 I think in an old TB version there was on option to turn them off. But
 now they should be turned on default, you're right.

I think the option was not to turn tooltips off but to change the style,
to either show them as normal tooltips or to show them with big and
bold yellow characters IIRC.

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Could not connect to the Server messages using Windows 2000 SP3

2003-07-08 Thread Nigel Howarth
I have a problem similar to Deborah W Lost email when installed Win2K posted on Fri, 
28 Mar 2003 02:20:44 -0800.

I've just installed The Bat! on my W2k (sp3) laptop and am trying to connect to my ISP 
to collect  send mail.

Although I can dial in and successfully connect to my ISP, I get Could not connect to 
the server messages on every attempt to collect and/or send mail. (Once connected, I 
can happily surf using MSIE).

As soon as I hit the Get new mail or Send queued mail I get the error. Looking at 
the dial-up monitor, The Bat! is not attempting to connect with the POP or SMTP 
servers (nothing's being transferred over the phone line), so the problem must be 
somewhere between The Bat! and the modem.

However, the identical Bat! configuration works fine on my wife's PC running Windows 
98. (Using tools/backup and restore, I copied my configuration to her machine).

I'd appreciate some help in trying to sort this out.

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RTF formatting

2003-07-08 Thread Lawrence Johnson
Whats the latest on the oft requested ability to format outgoing mail
messages?

It would be great to even just embolden, underline or italicize.

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Re: Could not connect to the Server messages using Windows 2000SP3

2003-07-08 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 2:00:33 PM, Nigel Howarth wrote:

 As soon as I hit the Get new mail or Send queued mail I get the
 error. Looking at the dial-up monitor, The Bat! is not attempting to
 connect with the POP or SMTP servers (nothing's being transferred
 over the phone line), so the problem must be somewhere between The
 Bat! and the modem.

Have a look at your network settings, as it sounds like TB is trying
to use settings that do not match your current setup.

In particular, you need to check the Options|Network and
Administration settings, Network tab, and make sure that TB is set up
to use the correct connection, and whether or not it is enabled to use
the existing connection.

The other alternative is that the server names on for the Account are
incorrect, and are worth checking again.
(Account|Properties|Transport)

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Failure of address book autocompletion

2003-07-08 Thread Robin Anson
TBUDL members

I have set the autocomplete option in TB preferences to complete from
all address books.

In the year or so that I have been using TB, I have noticed that
occasionally the autocomplete function fails to find an address book
entry. For instance, I may have an entry for Chris Smith and when I
enter Chris S in the address line, it will find Chris Sinclair,
Chris Stone but not Chris Smith. Using Ctrl-= to cycle through entries
doesn't help. The only way to enter Chris Smith is to select the
address book icon and find him in the address book.

I have discovered that deleting the address book entry that cannot be
found and recreating it resolves the problem.

However recently the problem has become worse. I have set up a group
of 8 people in one of my address books and each day I find the
autocomplete function is unable to find one of these entries. The
strange thing is that autocomplete had no problem finding the exact
same entry previously. As before, deleting and recreating the entry
fixes the problem at the time, but next time I start up TB I am likely
to find that one or other of this group of 8 cannot be found by the
autocomplete function.

Has anyone else experienced a similar problem?

Does anyone have any suggestions to fix it??

Regards
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Re: RTF formatting

2003-07-08 Thread MAU
Hello Lawrence,

 It would be great to even just embolden, underline or italicize.

That wheel is already invented. A friend of mine uses it all the time
and I do every now and then. Use MS Word instead of TB's editor and
compose your message with the font sizes, colours and highlights of your
preference. Even include images and graphics if you wish (my friend
includes his company's logo), etc., etc.

When ready, select File/Send To/Mail Recipient (as attachment) and
voilá, TB's editor opens now for you to included e-mail address of the
recipient and Subject and allow you to click Send.

And guess what! The recipients will see the text colours, fonts, etc.
that you have selected even if they do not use TB as an e-mail client.

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Re: drag/drop

2003-07-08 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi Mark.

At 3:46 AM on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 it seems you posted the
following to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to
drag/drop: 

S What action do you wish to take with the
S composite message with all
S headers intact?

 One reason would be for formal documentation outside of
 TB! As another example there are various programs that
 will accept pasting of text including email-like headers,
 and will then use those headers in an intelligent way to
 sort/triage/retrieve bits of information. [...] The best
 example is the fantastic information management Zoot [/...]

  Both these reasons are why I asked the question in the
  first place. Still, I don't know why I shouldn't be able
  to select, drag  drop a TB! msg outside of TB!.

  Should I make this a programming request?

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Re: Top posting

2003-07-08 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Kevin,

Thursday, July 3, 2003, 11:01:06 PM, you wrote:
KC In Bat groups like this, including the mid:; line helps if
KC someone didn't see the original post and wants to read it in its
KC entirety.

For the, err, fanatics of TB like us who do keep all the messages, I
totally agree with the mid: concept. However, I'm pretty sure (just
guessing here) that the majority of the list subscribers do not keep
all the messages, and that's where mid: fails. Now if we could just
get the archive tweaked where mids could be gotten from there, then
life would be good! Grin

KC When emailing someone's cell phone address I purposefully keep it
KC short and simple and eliminate extraneous things like my signature
KC line.

Absolutely. I have special address book templates for recipients on
cell phones and such so that all they get is my message (sans sig) or
my reply (sans quotes and sig).

And I agree with your comment on reading mailing lists using those
devices. Even with my Palm Pilot m515, I don't synch any of my mailing
lists. For one, there's too much volume, and two, it's not worth the
hassle IMHO.


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Re[2]: RTF formatting

2003-07-08 Thread Lawrence Johnson
Hello Mark,

Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 9:25:46 AM, you wrote:


MP Hello Lawrence,

MP Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 3:33:28 PM, you wrote:

LJ Whats the latest on the oft requested ability to format outgoing mail
LJ messages?

LJ It would be great to even just embolden, underline or italicize.

MP Do you mean this, this and that?  :-)

MP I hope you can read it as it is intended...



Yes, it appears correctly.

TB! displays formatted text correctly, but I presumed that it was
still operating in the What You Type Is What You Get mode.  Were you
able to do this with TB! or did you have to go to some external
application?

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Unpredictable filter actions

2003-07-08 Thread Spike
Hello tbudl'ers,

I am experiencing a strange behavior of my filters in one e-mail
account only.  Most or ALL of my mailing list messages are filtered to
TRASH (where my spam messages are sent) instead of their designated
folders specified in filters.  However, if I _RE-filter_ the same
messages in the TRASH folder using Folder-Re-filter-Incoming mail
The messages all magically go to their proper folders!  The spam stays
where it should be and all is right in the world again.

I haven't edited ANY filters in this account for weeks, yet beginning
over the weekend, this behavior started seemingly without any trigger
event.  This one is driving me crazy, as several of these lists
generate 100-150 messages a day each.  The re-filtering works
flawlessly with the exception of ONE list, which I also can't seem to
fathom.  Luckily this list is only 2-4 messages a day!

Any suggestions??

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Re: Unpredictable filter actions

2003-07-08 Thread MAU
Hello Spike,

 I am experiencing a strange behavior of my filters in one e-mail
 account only.  Most or ALL of my mailing list messages are filtered to
 TRASH (where my spam messages are sent) instead of their designated
 folders specified in filters. 

Are your spam filter(s) before or after the mailing list filters? It
looks like if for some reason you mailing list messages were catched as
spam.

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Re: Tooltips

2003-07-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:58:04 +0200 GMT (08/07/03, 18:58 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 I think the option was not to turn tooltips off but to change the style,
 to either show them as normal tooltips or to show them with big and
 bold yellow characters IIRC.

Possibly. But I guess nobody has an idea why the tooltips don't appear
at all in that new user's TB. I was hoping there is either a registry
hack or it has something to do with XP. :-(

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Re: RTF formatting

2003-07-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Lawrence,

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:33:28 -0500 GMT (08/07/03, 20:33 +0700 GMT),
Lawrence Johnson wrote:

 Whats the latest on the oft requested ability to format outgoing mail
 messages?

 It would be great to even just embolden, underline or italicize.

The latest beta series has an HTML editor in addition to the one we
are using. So it should be safe to say that it will appear in the next
release version.

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Re: Failure of address book autocompletion

2003-07-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Robin,

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:45:11 +1000 GMT (08/07/03, 20:45 +0700 GMT),
Robin Anson wrote:

 I have set the autocomplete option in TB preferences to complete from
 all address books.

 In the year or so that I have been using TB, I have noticed that
 occasionally the autocomplete function fails to find an address book
 entry. For instance, I may have an entry for Chris Smith and when I
 enter Chris S in the address line, it will find Chris Sinclair,
 Chris Stone but not Chris Smith. Using Ctrl-= to cycle through entries
 doesn't help.

I would have thought it is crtl-+. Does that help?

 I have discovered that deleting the address book entry that cannot be
 found and recreating it resolves the problem.

That is weird.

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html and graphics/pictures showing

2003-07-08 Thread Aaron M Farbo
Hi,

 I have a problem viewing graphics/pictures in html email that I
recieve using TB.  I will download all my messages, some being html and
some not, but for some reason the graphics and pictures that go with the
html messages show up as x's where the pictures are supposed to be.  I
cannot find an option in TB to turn off the high security or how to make
it so that I can view these graphics/pictures.  Any help would be greatly 
appreciated. 

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Re: html and graphics/pictures showing

2003-07-08 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Aaron,

Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 10:42:06 AM, you wrote:
AMF I have a problem viewing graphics/pictures in html email that I
AMF recieve using TB. I will download all my messages, some being
AMF html and some not, but for some reason the graphics and pictures
AMF that go with the html messages show up as x's where the pictures
AMF are supposed to be. I cannot find an option in TB to turn off the
AMF high security or how to make it so that I can view these
AMF graphics/pictures. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Top posting

2003-07-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Leif,

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:18:34 -0600 GMT (07/07/03, 21:18 +0700 GMT),
Leif Gregory wrote:

 For the, err, fanatics of TB like us who do keep all the messages, I
 totally agree with the mid: concept. However, I'm pretty sure (just
 guessing here) that the majority of the list subscribers do not keep
 all the messages, and that's where mid: fails.

OK, now here are my two-pence worth:

On a mailing list like this one, inline quoting is my preferred way of
replying as well reading.

But there are other circumstances. We discussed earlier certain business
environments in which I  think top posting with full quote makes
sense, but I am now on an academic mailing list where top posting is
the rule. Not only that, most replies come in by PM, people offer help
and mean this personally. What follows is a conversation ruled by top
posting.

It is a very low-traffic mailing list. But it also fosters personal
contacts, which in the academic world are important. I am thus in
touch with professors from around the world helping me with my little
problem. I don't mind the general top-posting, and I go along with it.

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Re: html and graphics/pictures showing

2003-07-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Aaron,

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:42:06 EST GMT (08/07/03, 23:42 +0700 GMT),
Aaron M Farbo wrote:

  I have a problem viewing graphics/pictures in html email that I
 recieve using TB.  I will download all my messages, some being html and
 some not, but for some reason the graphics and pictures that go with the
 html messages show up as x's where the pictures are supposed to be.  I
 cannot find an option in TB to turn off the high security or how to make
 it so that I can view these graphics/pictures.  Any help would be greatly
 appreciated. 

Easy: the pictures that you don't see have not been sent with the
message. The HTML code contains a command that they be downloaded from
the web. TB doesn't do that, for security reasons.

If you still want to see the HTML mail in its full glory, double click
on the attachment icon. Your browser will open, and it will download
all those picutures.

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Re: Tooltips

2003-07-08 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 I was hoping there is either a registry hack or it has something to do
 with XP. :-(

Sorry, but I can't be of any help there.

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Re: drag/drop

2003-07-08 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Jan Rifkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   [...] Still, I don't know why I shouldn't be able
   to select, drag  drop a TB! msg outside of TB!.

   Should I make this a programming request?

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Re: Failure of address book autocompletion

2003-07-08 Thread Allie Martin
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Robin Anson, [RA] wrote:

RA However recently the problem has become worse. I have set up a group
RA of 8 people in one of my address books and each day I find the
RA autocomplete function is unable to find one of these entries. The
RA strange thing is that autocomplete had no problem finding the exact
RA same entry previously.

I've seen this on the odd occasion.

Each time, I noted that the e-mail address was duplicated in the entries
properties. I delete one of them and am back in business. I haven't been
able to tell what causes the duplication.

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Re: [personal] Re: Failure of address book autocompletion

2003-07-08 Thread Robin Anson
Allie

On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, 8:09:21 AM, you wrote:
 Robin Anson, [RA] wrote:

RA However recently the problem has become worse. I have set up a group
RA of 8 people in one of my address books and each day I find the
RA autocomplete function is unable to find one of these entries. The
RA strange thing is that autocomplete had no problem finding the exact
RA same entry previously.

 I've seen this on the odd occasion.

 Each time, I noted that the e-mail address was duplicated in the entries
 properties. I delete one of them and am back in business. I haven't been
 able to tell what causes the duplication.

Hmm, in my case each of the address book entries (that can't be found
by autocomplete) looks fine and when I re-enter it I enter exactly the
same details. However it is true that duplicating the address book
entry (eg copying it to another address book and then moving it back
again) does _not_ resolve the problem.

Robin

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Re: [personal] Re: Failure of address book autocompletion

2003-07-08 Thread Robin Anson
Thomas

On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, 3:34:54 AM, you wrote:

 In the year or so that I have been using TB, I have noticed that
 occasionally the autocomplete function fails to find an address book
 entry. For instance, I may have an entry for Chris Smith and when I
 enter Chris S in the address line, it will find Chris Sinclair,
 Chris Stone but not Chris Smith. Using Ctrl-= to cycle through entries
 doesn't help.

 I would have thought it is crtl-+. Does that help?

Interesting - I checked the TB help pages and it says that

You can type a part of the name of a person and then press
Ctrl+Plus. This will fill in the address using the first address in
the Address Book which part matches the address you have begun typing.
Press Ctrl+Plus again to retrieve the next and subsequent matches.

However on my system Ctrl+= cycles through addresses, Ctrl+Plus,
which is Ctrl+Shift+= (at least on my keyboard) does not.

And no, unfortunately it doesn't solve my problem! :(

Robin

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Intermittent send problem

2003-07-08 Thread lars
I have an intermittent problem sending emails. About 1/3 of the time,
the connection center indicates that the message TEXT was sent, then
hangs for a long time, and finally times out giving a message that the
email was not sent. The other 2/3 of the time, it sends just fine.

I have been using these same email accounts for several years with no
problems at all, and this has started just the last few days. No
settings have been changed.

To add to the mystery, in one case I get an error message from the
recipient server stating that it could not find that address on the
server. The email address was the one I used for that email, but a few
additional characters had been added to the name, and thus it could
not find it. TB said that this message was NOT sent completely,
however. I got, in the connection center, a progress message
indicating that the TEXT was sent, but it does not complete the entire
process, and the email ends up in the outbox. In fact, it seems as
though something was sent, but it was not the right thing.

Any ideas what is happening and how to fix it? Using TB ver 1.62r.

(I tried sending this from TB, but it didn't work. )

Thanks,

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archiving

2003-07-08 Thread Q179
Hello,

A couple of weeks ago I asked about the best way to archive TB mail.  Someone was kind 
enough to reply with a third party app that seemed like the best option.

Unfortunately I misplaced the email with the link.  Would someone be kind enough to 
reply with that link?

Also...I'd like to switch my email address for this mailing list from this crappy AOL 
address...to one on my own domain.  How can I make the change?

Much appreciated.

Eddie


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Re: Top posting

2003-07-08 Thread Kevin Coates
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Hi Leif,

On Monday, July 07, 2003 at 08:18 GMT -0600, Leif Gregory [LG] wrote
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

KC In Bat groups like this, including the mid:; line helps ...

LG For the, err, fanatics of TB like us who do keep all the messages,
LG I totally agree with the mid: concept. However, I'm pretty sure
LG (just guessing here) that the majority of the list subscribers do
LG not keep all the messages, and that's where mid: fails.

Yes, one does have to keep all the messages. I don't tend to do that
in all of the lists. Whenever a new beta is released, I usually keep
everything for awhile in TBBeta and the mid:; certainly makes
referencing a snap .. assuming the poster includes one. :)

LG Now if we could just get the archive tweaked where mids could be
LG gotten from there, then life would be good! Grin

I haven't had to use the archives in awhile, but your idea sounds
quite useful.

KC When emailing someone's cell phone address I purposefully keep it
KC short and simple and eliminate extraneous things like my
KC signature line.

LG Absolutely. I have special address book templates for recipients
LG on cell phones and such so that all they get is my message (sans
LG sig) or my reply (sans quotes and sig).

Normally I just call my acquaintances or leave them voice mail.
Occasionally a quick message is best. I just hope that the spammers
don't ruin that media as well.

LG And I agree with your comment on reading mailing lists using those
LG devices. Even with my Palm Pilot m515, I don't synch any of my
LG mailing lists. For one, there's too much volume, and two, it's not
LG worth the hassle IMHO.

I don't own a palm device, but I do see their merit. I just wouldn't
have time to use one at work but friends who are in sales find them
indispensable. So does that mean you wont be downloading any binary
mp3s from the usenet newsgroups? hehehe

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Re: Failure of address book autocompletion

2003-07-08 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Tue 8-Jul-03 6:31pm -0400, Robin Anson wrote:

 Thomas

 On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, 3:34:54 AM, you wrote:

 In the year or so that I have been using TB, I have noticed that
 occasionally the autocomplete function fails to find an address book
 entry. For instance, I may have an entry for Chris Smith and when I
 enter Chris S in the address line, it will find Chris Sinclair,
 Chris Stone but not Chris Smith. Using Ctrl-= to cycle through entries
 doesn't help.

 I would have thought it is crtl-+. Does that help?

 Interesting - I checked the TB help pages and it says that

The default shortcuts (see Alt-F12) are ctrl= and ctrl- for
searching the address book forward and backward, respectively.

Does Chris Smith display that way or does it display as Smith,
Chris or Chris J Smith?

I don't get a failure here.  Cycles forward or backward just fine.

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Re: Unpredictable filter actions

2003-07-08 Thread Spike
Hello MAU,

On or about Tuesday, July 08, 2003 at 17:40:18GMT +0200 (which was
10:40 AM in the tropics where I live) MAU posted:

M Are your spam filter(s) before or after the mailing list filters?
M It looks like if for some reason you mailing list messages were
M catched as spam.

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] filters ARE before the list filters, as there are specific
text phrases such as Ancient Toaist, throbbing erections and
Saundanese Arab Method (I think you know the specific spam messages
I am talking about!) and the text strings are specific and targeted.

There is also a black-list which is the known source addresses of
these chronic [EMAIL PROTECTED]  What I don't understand is why when I
RE-FILTER the messages, they go where they were _supposed_ to go!

Is there some explanation as to why the filters would work correctly
on the SAME messages, only now from the trash folder?

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conditions.

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Re: Unpredictable filter actions

2003-07-08 Thread Allie Martin
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Paul R. Dedrick, Cet, Csm, A+, [PRD] wrote:

PRD Is there some explanation as to why the filters would work correctly
PRD on the SAME messages, only now from the trash folder?

For the spam messages, do you have 'continue processing with other
filters' enabled?

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Re: [personal] Re: Failure of address book autocompletion

2003-07-08 Thread Robin Anson
Bill

On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, 11:28:24 AM, you wrote:
 In the year or so that I have been using TB, I have noticed that
 occasionally the autocomplete function fails to find an address book
 entry. For instance, I may have an entry for Chris Smith and when I
 enter Chris S in the address line, it will find Chris Sinclair,
 Chris Stone but not Chris Smith. Using Ctrl-= to cycle through entries
 doesn't help.

 The default shortcuts (see Alt-F12) are ctrl= and ctrl- for
 searching the address book forward and backward, respectively.

Okay, those work as expected then.

 Does Chris Smith display that way or does it display as Smith,
 Chris or Chris J Smith?

Chris Smith displays as Chris Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED].
If I use the address book icon to select Chris Smith, and then delete
the address until only Chris S remains, and then search through the
address book with Ctrl= or Ctrl-, autocomplete finds Chris
Sinclair and Chris Stone, but not Chris Smith.

As I noted previously, if I delete the Chris Smith entry and the
recreate an identical entry, autocomplete then finds it as it should.
Up until recently that would be the end of it, and I would have no
further problem with that address book entry.

But over the last two or three weeks, within this particular group of
8 addressbook entries the problem occurs with address book entries
that had previously been found through autocomplete. Furthermore,
fixing an entry (by recreating it) does not mean it will stay fixed.

In case it is useful - the group (called Rosetta) is in the address
book Current Projects and is set up to hide items if not explictly
selected. No other options are selected, the distinctive handle is
also Rosetta, and there are no group templates.

Robin

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Re: Failure of address book autocompletion

2003-07-08 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Tue 8-Jul-03 10:18pm -0400, Robin Anson wrote:

 In case it is useful - the group (called Rosetta) is in the address
 book Current Projects and is set up to hide items if not explictly
 selected. No other options are selected, the distinctive handle is
 also Rosetta, and there are no group templates.

The address book Current Projects is the default address book, right?
I believe only the default is searched.

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Re: archiving

2003-07-08 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Eddie (Q179),

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Mittwoch, 09.07.2003, 02:08:56
archiving


 A couple of weeks ago [...] Would someone be kind enough to reply
 with that link?

This is what I found ...

== mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Roelof  Marck gave you two internal solutions, there is also an
 external one, such als Mailbag Assistant www.fookes.com .
==

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Re: Failure of address book autocompletion

2003-07-08 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Tuesday, July 08, 2003, Bill McCarthy wrote...

 The address book Current Projects is the default address book,
 right? I believe only the default is searched.

That is changeable in Options - Preferences - System. You can set it
to All Addressbooks.

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Re: Failure of address book autocompletion

2003-07-08 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 9-Jul-03 1:09am -0400, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 On Tuesday, July 08, 2003, Bill McCarthy wrote...

 The address book Current Projects is the default address book,
 right? I believe only the default is searched.

 That is changeable in Options - Preferences - System. You can set it
 to All Addressbooks.

That's something different.  It's for auto-completion.  I have that
turned off.  The AB search, ctrl= or ctrl-, doesn't appear to have
an All Addressbooks setting.

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