US Congress. It has done a poor job in the
new MN Leg. It now appears to be failing even at the city level. Perhaps
it is time to sweep it into the dustbin of history.
--David Shove
Roseville
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s interests at the expense of the community and
fair procedures.
Voting for either legitimizes that sell-out.
We have a protest candidate, Farheen Hameem, Green Party, to vote for.
Don't tell us we have to go with experienced old-boy sell-outs rather than
new blood.
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R
anding) hit homes, one for
each member disabled (silver) or killed (gold).
Some people see the air as half empty. I see it as half full.
--David Shove
Roseville
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Time to scare the daylights out of the arrogant DFL hacks! Vote Green!
Roll the rock back over the DFL!
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gridlock
for the middle.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Andy Driscoll wrote:
> If ever we've seen an example of racist and classist power-playing it's this
> collapse of the Simpson Housing plan along the Hiawatha LRT land. Any
> Minneapolis City Council member op
o anything
they want.
They know; they don't care.
The problem now is us - why do we put up with it/them?
--David Shove
Roseville
On Mon, 30 May 2005, Jane Strauss wrote:
> I keep wonderign how long it will take for politicos and others to figure
> out that you can't build your w
outlaws, as soon as
we write their outbylaws.
--David Shove
ps
My solution for smoking is to in-law it - then nobody would want to do it.
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Barbara Lickness wrote:
> I want the City Council and the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board to
> outlaw cottonwood trees withi
of doing this amounts to only 3 cents in every $20, so we should
proceed with this change full speed ahead, with little (or better no)
further public discussion.
--David Shove
Roseville
just my $2 billion worth
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Just a little taste of fascism in the parks.
Once the big boys move in to sell off the parks, they won't let democracy,
fairness or justice stand in their way.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Elizabeth Wielinski wrote:
> Just thought the candidates would like to know tha
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Jeff Radford wrote:
> About Lakes Harriet and Calhoun:
>
> Does anyone know why the lakes are particularly foul-smelling?
It's where the bodies are buried in the Pohlad stadium deal.
--David Shove
Roseville
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These policy changes make it easier to give away the parks to wealthy
private interests, and are probably done with malice aforethought by/for
the "Giveaway Five".
It's all part of the arrogant lawlessness sweeping the country since the
sedond Bush re-election/theft.
--David Shove
Peter McLaughlin is for the status quo. Therefore he may campaign in the
parks.
Jason Stone is campaigning against the status quo that appointed Gurban.
Therefore he may not campaign in the parks.
It's simple.
It's not the act, it's the content.
It's a government of men,
Your just need to put one and one together.
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, David Curle wrote:
>
> Let's put two and two together. There is no doubt we are in a rabbit
> population boom. I suspect there is a family of them living under my deck.
>
> And I can't prove it, but I'm pretty certain those crit
r actions. For another, no vetoes
possible. And, no more broken promises. Finally, more lifelike.
--David Shove
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others to use.
If you're one of the using class, you won't like him.
-David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Samantha Smart got some flack for suggesting all of Minneapolis read-
> Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paolo Friere. I have never met her but
Barbiedollfiti?
I like it, and suggest shoefiti be renamed "feetfiti".
David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Matty Lang wrote:
> I have a few Barbie Dolls hanging by string over a power line inbetween
> my home and a neighbor's. I always took this as a protest a
ng to be a big Tobacco shill. He
richly deserves to lose.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am concerned to read in the Star Tribune that Hennepin County
> Commissioner (and Minneapolis mayorial candidate) Peter McLaughlin is
> reconsidering h
If brevity is the soul of wit, then my posts are half-brief.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Ray Marshall wrote:
> I don't know if this irks anybody else, but some of the messages on this
> forum get rather long, especially when the poster is copying two or three
ay,
almost totally trashed and censored by the interests of rich exploiting
corporations and families.
Damn the rich, damn their "charity" that means domination, damn their
owning of everything including our souls. I flip them the Big Bird!
-David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, mike sk
The park board Gang of Five are like five bullies at recess time, beating
up on the little kids.
--David Shove
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Dan McGrath wrote:
> You aren't kidding here. While the Park Board is planning to give away land
> for rich kids to play football - for free - they ar
Whbo else voted for the money? That would be a good reason to NOT return
them to the library board.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Dorie Rae Gallagher wrote:
> Our library board had to make the decision...do we put filters on the
> computers
> and collect a little over
by selling it to the
highest bidder, and distribute that too. We paid for it; time we got our
money back.
After that we drill for gold in Pohlad's bank vault.
--David Shove
>
> > NO STADIUM TAX WITHOUT A VOTE.
> > Much more at my web site
>
> I say no stadium tax PERIOD.
just giving up
and handing everything over (and then jumping off a bridge or setting
itself on fire). It is about all of us showing ourselves to be
lily-livered chicken-hearted belly-crawling spineless slugs. The rich, and
capitalism, demand nothing less.
-David Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 28 Aug
ufferable corruption,
but I call it perfection, and call upon us to reject all so-called
"improvements". Others may call me a pig-headed idiot, but I call myself a
plenipotentiary of obfuscatory tinselectomy.
--David Shove
tottering asymtotically in Roseville
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Steve
be harmed,
hamboozled, reneged upon, humiliated, demeaned. Secretly, of course.
For those who have maxed out on masochism, there's the Green Party. Vote
Green. In many wards, and for mayor. Change the local government.
-David Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 4 Sep 2005, Gary Hoover wrote:
> I do apprec
es -- actually moderate Republicans -- wasting
> about a million bucks apiece to sling mud at each other.
There they float, side by side, in the big porcelain bowl.
High up there is a large chrome handle.
Bon voyage!
-David Shove
Upstream in Roseville
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God, and the DFL, want the rich to be much richer, and all the rest of us
much poorer. Since we would rather be dirt poor than (gasp!) protest, it
will happen. Happy poverty, all. Thank you DFL and DFL lesser-evil voters.
The rich couldn't do it without you.
--David Shove
Roseville
On W
convince DFL leaders that
IRV might help them soon - all those Green votes just waiting to vote "2"
for the DFLer.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Jeanne Massey wrote:
> Paul Rohlfing asks:
>
> How does this year's turnout percentage compare to the 1997 primary?
&
need more libraries open more hours,
and no censorship.
-David Shove
Uppity in Roseville
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> latest contribution to obfuscation.
I keep asking people the meaning of "obfuscation", but I never get a clear
answer I can understand. Each time I ask it gets worse. Put that word in
your mouth and eschew it.
-David Shove
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Roseville
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happens to the poor people and the animals,
who needs them?
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Roseville
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, David Brauer wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2005, at 8:40 AM, Fredric Markus wrote:
> >
> >
> > Should the Library Board rent out the facilities that they oversee?
> > Not just
&
e Leg, and then Congress. Until then, we'll
just have more corporate theft masquerading as "free enterprise", aided
and abetted by their all-to-willing political puppets.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Rybak or McLaughlin: both will
boxes and billboards.
The place where the stadium should go is a place where the sun doesn't
shine.
We are now in the post-stadium world.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Jane Prince wrote:
> A friend of mine is on his way to visit the Texas State Fair. That's
> where
e every rational person must be for socialism, I can only assume this
is clever irony - and very well done!
Congratulations, Michael! More, please!
-David Shove
Rosesocialismville
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a! This is NOTHING!"
Would you want to take this away from them, converting them into a race of
nanny-bar sissies?
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Jim McGuire wrote:
> I realized a while ago that a by-product of the smoking ban is that bars
> are going to be provid
e ANY influence on stopping this runaway elite-stolen juggernaut
society.
It's all we have left to try to take back our country. Ruling it
off-limits means we sit quietly while our freedoms shrink to nothing.
-David Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, David Strand wrote:
>
>
> ---
From: Carl Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Corrie Zoll
Subject: Green tomato cook-off 10.20 6pm
GreenSpace Partners
5th Annual
Green Tomato Cook-Off
Yes, it's the social event of the season. Come celebrate the end of the
community gardening season with us. Don't worry, there's no need to be
I know once again why I stopped reading posts by MA.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Tim Bonham wrote:
>
> >I'm sick of the middle-class, I think that we can all learn
> >a lesson from the USSR and eliminate the upper and middle
> >classes and all live i
newly yuppiefed areas near the relatively few LRT stations; with
many more PRT stations, even poor people will be served.
Dean is a man of vision, and should be re-elected.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Russell Raczkowski wrote:
> I did not attend the Gary Schiff/David Bick
ecause there must have been -
huge restaruant-bar chains everywhere you might look, and fabulously
wealthy owners with huge smiles on their faces.
Smoking is as American as smoking and apple pie and smoking. If you don't
love smoking, you hate America. Simple. Light up for freedom.
--Davi
ch is how it ought to
be.
--David Shove
Roseville
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On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Dorie Rae Gallagher wrote:
> This is about as political as it can get...strong Peter supporters here.
You can learn about them in any high school gym class.
--David Shove
Roseville
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Vote - the park you save may be your own!
--David Shove
Roseville
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Jason McGrath wrote:
> WizardMarks asked:
>
> How do you convince people who have anything like a logical marker in
>
> their DNA, that voting is going to impact the situation
. Citizens have to be constantly involved to MAKE the
nice rules into the real ones, because big money never sleeps.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Dorie Rae Gallagher wrote:
> Years ago, a strong non-profit woman's group in Minneapolis was very
> political. Th
GP is the second party. Some years ago running for state house Cam Gordon
got 25%, the RP 19%, and the DFL all the rest.
Greens had 2 council members, now due to DFL dirty tricks has only one.
Where are the RP council members?
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Shawn A. Dorisian
people may wish to represent the GP as third
even at the city level is that they wish to strip it of power and push a
right-wing agenda, support privatization of parks, etc. The numbers won't
support it.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Shawn A. Dorisian wrote:
> People may
ot ban PAC money, it cannot climb out of its losing rut,
or reclaim its more progressive past. If so, real progressives are invited
to leave, and join the GP.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Heidi Quezada wrote:
> Well, I will be the second to express my disgust. Take this quote from
le to invade and pervert our very minds, so
that we beg to be victims.
Or perhaps, as rape victims are advised, we should just lay back and
enjoy it.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, Gary Hoover wrote:
> We need to de-link the Twins stadium proposal from transit.
>
> Here
Amen, huzzah, and right on!
-David Shove
Roseville
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Gary Hoover wrote:
> Jeremy W. scribes, in part:
> >>>
> One question that I have for both the pro- and anti-stadium crowd is why we
> can't hang the public obligation for a new stadium on t
nists.
No Minnesota nice for promise breakers.
-David Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005, Eva Young wrote:
> I saw Greg Gray at the Minnesota Women's Political
> Caucus annual luncheon. (I was actually rather
> surprised that his opponent, Linda Higgins wasn't
> there).
This has the ring of truth to it. Another Bush-Pawlenty type trick to make
the poor pay most of the taxes, and give it to the rich. Pretty much the
way it was everywhere before the French and American Revolutions. We
didn't start with a formal aristocracy, but they're working on one now
Wendy is right. Money should not be speech; we should have person-speak,
not money-speak or money-quack. Big money undermines and then kills
democracy.
Alas, the ACLU is on the side of money=speech, perhaps their worst
position ever.
-David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Wendy Wilde wrote
e
will buy, and some officials will sell, and soon we're back with the
obscene class structure we have today.
Big money is the root of all big evil.
-David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Carol Becker wrote:
> Mark Anderson wrote:
>
> > The tax incidence report only dis
officials, WE have to buy them, all of us together,
in lots of tiny contributions, and/or public financing out of progressive
taxes. The last is the way to make the rich pay for a system they don't
like but we do, and so I'm for it.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, c lee wro
;s position, one I strongly
approve)
--David Shove
Roseville
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, TONY SCALLON wrote:
> Many on the Issues lists forget who are some of the larger PACS. The unions
> through
> their COPE committees are one of the largest contributors to campaigns
> including
>
. VERY un-Green. I don't care WHAT the supposed
"good" use is - get it from the income tax or DO WITHOUT the service until
people are in the streets and sitting in at the Leg.
--David Shove
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, ROBERT VELEZ wrote:
> Tim Penny had mentioned cutting the LGA if he we
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
> Jim. I'm beginning to think you wouldn't recognize
> a real live Republican if one hit you in the face.
That's how I (and I suspect many others) tell.
David Shove
Roseville
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"Sperm like it here," he ejaculated, exposing his hard luck-story.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, List Manager wrote:
> OK, sue me, I loved writing that subject linebut it is a real
> Minneapolis-related news story in the Minneapolis-based paper
>
> http
es me want
to bring them under citizen control so they respond equally to and for
all of us.
David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, timothy connolly wrote:
> Mark Wilde writes "the police, fire, rescue and other
> emergency responders do their job professionally and
> effecti
Fw, with his permission, from my friend John Kolstad. Please reply here
or to John, not to me personally.
--David Shove
Roseville
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:29:12 -0600
From: John Kolstad/Mill City Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Proposed Tax Strike in Mpls!
PROBLEM:
Out of control pr
See above for John Kolstad's email address.
Hello David:
John does not have any contact info on his request making it difficult for
residents to respond.
David Shove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Fw, with his permission, from my
friend John Kolstad. Please reply here or to John
DFL to come out of the water closet.
Now we know where their lever of power is.
We can handle that.
--David Shove
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lice officer. In past years, admittedly,
> there's been some trouble. But couldn't this situation be evaluated
> and the officer dispatched where he'd be needed more?
Probably looking for furiners
--David Shove
Roseville
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So I think the presence of three or more significant
> parties will make races more issue oriented with less emphasis on
> personality.
>
> What do we do to get such a movement started? Is "FairVote Minnesota"
> working on the Minneapolis angle?
FAirVote is working on the
en to be ranked as the world's most knowledge
> competitive region.
We knew that.
--David Shove
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lieve that councilperson Dean Zimmermann advances this every week or
so, the last vote I know of 8 to 5, against. With 2 votes switched, 6 to
7, for. I think the IS the business of the city council; it is all too
easy to hide a pro-war vote under the claim that it's none of our
business.
--D
make life here
much better for all of us.
--David Shove
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
> I would support a resolution in the City Council that similarly linked how
> the city did business or otherwise performed its functions with opposition
> to the war effort. However,
Baja Fridley
--David Shove
Roseville
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Saint Minny
> Minnipaul
> Blooming Ed Wood St. LouisPaul MinnePark
> Pig's All
> Hudson West
> Why'szata Metropolis?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott Vreeland , Seward, AKA -L
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, dyna wrote:
.
Most anyone on this list
> would have been proud to work with any of the Humphreys, Sabos, or Moes.
Proof that I'm not most anyone on this list. Skip or Buck Humphrey? Roger
Moe? I'd sooner vote for a box of rocks or a yellow dog.
-David Sh
as won before and can and will win again.
If the DFL wants to make life better for themselves, they'll pass IRV
(Instant Runoff Voting) because most Greens will in fact vote for the DFL
as # 2 choice. Let's get on with IRV!
--David Shove
Roseville
t power. The hierarchy then
redeploys its troops to more opportune races.
This is how it was several years ago. I left PM because of it. It stayed
the same for some time. I hear there have been recent changes, so perhaps
it is better than it was.
--David Shove
Roseville
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to narrow his/her choice to Coke or Pepsi?
--David Shove
Roseville
o
cast our second choice for another party.
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d down for them.
Get real.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, McGreevy, James A., III wrote:
> Hang on. Fusion doesn't lessen choices. If party rules were equal and a
> DFLer sought the Green Party endorsement, the Green party endorsers could
> chose the DFLer or someon
gress. Silenced
there, we have to speak out and act and legislate where we can. Cities
have more freedom than the "higher" levels of govt; we have begin here.
--David Shove
Roseville
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Oakland, spurred by fears of civil rights violati
For all who were wondering or hoping (one way or the other):
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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:19:04 -0600 (CST)
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Subject: Major Party Status Retained
I just got the word.
T
oops
signed
David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, David Shove wrote:
> For all who were wondering or hoping (one way or the other):
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:19:04 -0600 (CST)
> From: Cameron A. Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ck to the DFL (GOP Lite). This is where the DFL really doesn't get
it. It thinks it can just wait around, uninvitingly, and the prodigal
party will come back to Broken Wing MN with its tail between its legs.
Having abandoned hope in favor of fear, the DFL
workers (steelworkers, public employess,
> carpenters, printers, painters, electrical workers, autoworkers,
> teachers, etc) would support candidates that belong to a Party that has
> shown a committment to their issues.
--David Shove
Roseville
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be manipulated.
How do you know this?
--David Shove
Roseville
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lies" or "TV lies always". What
then? If it always lies, then if it says it is lying, it must be telling
the truth... but we KNOW it never does that (sponsors would never stand
for it) so
Public service ad:
This is your brain --> O
This is your brain on TV --> .
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uffeur, and put out the rumor that they might win big $$$ in a pending
class action suit. Rybek might then find time for them.
--David Shove
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g of an eye cost all of us, except of course
the well-placed developers and Ouija Board officials, all our income,
house, car, clothes, food, valuable baseball cards, etc -- but we all go
smiling to the poorhouse knowing that not one red cent of it went to a
councilperson.
--David Shove
Rosevill
ey went. Who
got it, and how. What this means for everyone else.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Fredric Markus wrote:
> Kevin Diaz' article in today's Star Tribune gives the gist of HUD's
> backpedaling on moneys already committed to this fiscal year's b
emocracy.
So, THREE CHEERS FOR ZERBY AND ZIMMERMANN!!!
--David Shove
Roseville
>
> Terry Erickson
> Whittier
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Atherton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Minneapolis Issues'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
the SUV.
--David Shove
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Victoria Heller wrote:
> It's not the vehicle that you object to - it's the TOTAL consumption of
> gasoline.
>
> A person with an SUV who drives 2,000 miles per year is more "earth
> friendly" than a person in a Jet
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Melendez, Brian wrote:
> the DFL Party (over the scheduling of the endorsing convention).
> I respectfully suggest that Dyna's style is more "Dyna style" than it is
> "DFL style."
"Dynasty"?
--David Shove
Roseville
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14.
Nine are needed to override a mayoral veto.
--David Shove
Roseville
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From: Andy Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Personal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: This week on NOW with Bill Moyers
Friends, if you
ng sweet
rejoicing in every thing in every where great or small
I have a dream
--David Shove
Roseville
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pponents in the next election.
David Shove
Roseville
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:13:49 -0600
From: Erik Schimek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [GPM] Ely anti-war resolution
A friend informed me that the Ely city council passed an Anti-War
resolution this
e since they tell it to us so often.
Mpls should be actively fostering *small business* and *co-ops* run by
non-rich citizens.
--David Shove
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would take before ALL the cops were enforcing the
most decorous polite behavior on ALL other cops?
If brutality anywhere could mean the loss of his/her job, how long until
Mpls had the best police force on earth?
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Steve Brandt wrote:
> Steve Brandt: I
out of the state to low wage states
or third world countries via big businesses, or staying right here with
small businesses and co-ops?
It's time to change the paradigm. Small is beautiful.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Victoria Heller wrote:
> "Target, after all,
Were Abe Lincoln to come to 2003 Mpls:
where would he go?
what would he do?
what would he think?
how would he write it up?
--David Shove
roseville
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hey are so pretty to look at but so
strenuous to use.
Yet others they have had frozen for the great day (perhaps after they
leave office) when their consciences can wake up and be cured.
City Council: It's late - do you know where your ethics are?
--David Shove
Roseville
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people behind them are not poor or young or
powerless. It would be joyful to pass a law to fine their parents for
their nature-effacing misdeeds.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Chris Johnson wrote:
> Conor Donnelly wrote:
> > Michael Atherton wrote:
> >>And, if you wa
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, David Brauer wrote:
> I also want to briefly respond to David Shove:
>
> Those who argue that graffiti should be tolerated because billboards are
> subscribe to the "eye for an eye" ethos (literally), that I think comes up
> short. There are many
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, David Brauer wrote:
> I also want to briefly respond to David Shove:
>
> Those who argue that graffiti should be tolerated because billboards are
> subscribe to the "eye for an eye" ethos (literally),
er SchmitzCARAG
Well, but, they have MUCH bigger backsides to protect.
(When they turn the other cheek, it's something to behold).
--David Shove
Roseville
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we waiting for?
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Roseville
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Chris Johnson wrote:
> Jim Mork wrote:
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> > Pick up North Oaks or Fridley and move them 500 miles north and what
> > WOULD be the attraction of living either place? None. The SOLE reason
> > that they attract t
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