Re: [CMLHope] Hi Shaun question

2019-01-06 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Jeanie -

My heart goes out to you.  I know my Dad would want you to keep fighting
and going on.  I can tell from your posts that you have a wonderful
positive energy that keeps you going.  Please hang there.

Regards and 18s,
Shaun

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On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 11:03 AM 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you Shaun
> I miss him too so much. Sometimes I feel like giving up and going into
> hospice but his words keep whispering in my ear: fight on.
> I love the story about the shoes. No he told me he didn’t want the book
> published but I know it would help a lot of people.
> If you change your mind let me know.
> What a great family he had
> Keep in touch
> Happy New Year
> Love you so very much
> Jeanie 18
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> Christian
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015 15 mg
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
> Dr Gedia PCD
> 0 CBL. ABL
> July 2018 dx with thyroid disease tsh 13
> T4-normal t3-normal
>
> On Dec 31, 2018, at 2:21 AM, Kathy Walls 
> wrote:
>
> Please remove my wife from your group Please, she too is gone. Our
> daughter plays with her phone  she does not to see these posts!  I beg you
> please remove her
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 31, 2018, at 12:23 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Hi Jeanie -
>
> I miss him every day.  I'm glad he was able to still help you while he was
> in rehab.  He was going through a lot even then, and it just goes to show
> that he was a fighter even to the end.  My thoughts and prayers are with
> you in beating your disease.
>
> I appreciate your feedback about his book and I agree with you.  I know
> those stories well and I'm grateful to have his words and thoughts to hold
> on to.  I'm not sure that he actually wanted the book published, though.  I
> think it was something more personal that he just wanted to share with
> family and friends.  I appreciate your offer.
>
> I wish everyone here a very healthy and happy holiday and New Year.   Take
> care and be well!
>
> Regards and 18's
> Shaun
>
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> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 3:09 AM 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks so much Shaun.  I always knew he was suffering and he tick on our
>> sufferings too. I miss him so much.  He was helping me with my new thyroid
>> disease while he was in rehab.
>> Have you given some thought to having his book published?  If you decide
>> to have it published I could get my daughter to help you through amazon
>> kindle. He gave me parts of the book and it was so uplifting.  You can feel
>> his love and care come through his pages
>> I especially loved the part about the pair of walking shoes. He left his
>> love on earth and I can still feel his spirit in my daily battle against
>> leukemia and other old age problems he was helping us with.
>> Good luck and keep in touch.
>> Love ya!
>> Jeanie
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2018, at 11:50 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeanie -
>>
>> That's OK.  My father was getting Tylenol for his pain and Ativan for his
>> anxiety.  He wasn't getting stronger pain medicines because it would give
>> him hallucinations and confusion.  I read to him several times the
>> patient's prayer and the mind of matter mantra to try to help him focus on
>> feeling better.   I hope that brought him some comfort.
>>
>> To everyone in this group I wish a very happy and healthy (belated)
>> Thanksgiving. I am so grateful to see what strong support group you all
>> have with each other and glad that my Dad was able to be a part of it.  I
>> am so thankful and blessed to have had him as my father.
>>
>> Regards and 18's
>> Shaun
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:59 PM 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>&

Re: [CMLHope] Hi Shaun question

2018-12-30 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Jeanie -

I miss him every day.  I'm glad he was able to still help you while he was
in rehab.  He was going through a lot even then, and it just goes to show
that he was a fighter even to the end.  My thoughts and prayers are with
you in beating your disease.

I appreciate your feedback about his book and I agree with you.  I know
those stories well and I'm grateful to have his words and thoughts to hold
on to.  I'm not sure that he actually wanted the book published, though.  I
think it was something more personal that he just wanted to share with
family and friends.  I appreciate your offer.

I wish everyone here a very healthy and happy holiday and New Year.   Take
care and be well!

Regards and 18's
Shaun

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On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 3:09 AM 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks so much Shaun.  I always knew he was suffering and he tick on our
> sufferings too. I miss him so much.  He was helping me with my new thyroid
> disease while he was in rehab.
> Have you given some thought to having his book published?  If you decide
> to have it published I could get my daughter to help you through amazon
> kindle. He gave me parts of the book and it was so uplifting.  You can feel
> his love and care come through his pages
> I especially loved the part about the pair of walking shoes. He left his
> love on earth and I can still feel his spirit in my daily battle against
> leukemia and other old age problems he was helping us with.
> Good luck and keep in touch.
> Love ya!
> Jeanie
>
> On Nov 23, 2018, at 11:50 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Hi Jeanie -
>
> That's OK.  My father was getting Tylenol for his pain and Ativan for his
> anxiety.  He wasn't getting stronger pain medicines because it would give
> him hallucinations and confusion.  I read to him several times the
> patient's prayer and the mind of matter mantra to try to help him focus on
> feeling better.   I hope that brought him some comfort.
>
> To everyone in this group I wish a very happy and healthy (belated)
> Thanksgiving. I am so grateful to see what strong support group you all
> have with each other and glad that my Dad was able to be a part of it.  I
> am so thankful and blessed to have had him as my father.
>
> Regards and 18's
> Shaun
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:59 PM 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Shaun
>> I know you are in a lot of grief and if you don’t feel like talking about
>> I will understand.
>> I have never feared death but always feared that I would be in a lot of
>> pain while dying. My question is did they give your dad pain meds before he
>> went into hospice?
>> I miss him so much as he was my advisor as well as my friend.
>> Prayers to you and yours
>> Jeanie
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> Jeanie
>> free
>> Christian
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015 15 mg
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>> Dr Balducci retired
>> Dr Gedia PCD
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>> July 2018 dx with thyroid disease tsh 13
>> T4-normal t3-normal
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sherri,
>>
>> This is Shaun.  My family and I greatly appreciate your heartwarming
>> gift.  Thank you so very much for that.  My Mom (his wife, Rachelle) sends
>> her thanks, as well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shaun
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:27 PM sherri swanson <
>> swanson.sherri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Shaun,
>>>
>>> I am so very sorry to hear about your dad. He was such a kind and
>>> gentile man and he will be missed by many.  I wanted to let you know that I
>>> have planted a tree in his name in Israel. May this serve as a living
>>> tribute to his memory. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
>>> Marty will always be in my heart and on my mind.  My heart is broken
>>> knowing I will not receive another message from Marty and we will no longer
>>> share share photos.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *As long as we live, they too will live; for they are now are a part of
>>> us; as we remember them. *
>

Re: [CMLHope] Hi Shaun question

2018-11-23 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Jeanie -

That's OK.  My father was getting Tylenol for his pain and Ativan for his
anxiety.  He wasn't getting stronger pain medicines because it would give
him hallucinations and confusion.  I read to him several times the
patient's prayer and the mind of matter mantra to try to help him focus on
feeling better.   I hope that brought him some comfort.

To everyone in this group I wish a very happy and healthy (belated)
Thanksgiving. I am so grateful to see what strong support group you all
have with each other and glad that my Dad was able to be a part of it.  I
am so thankful and blessed to have had him as my father.

Regards and 18's
Shaun



On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:59 PM 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Shaun
> I know you are in a lot of grief and if you don’t feel like talking about
> I will understand.
> I have never feared death but always feared that I would be in a lot of
> pain while dying. My question is did they give your dad pain meds before he
> went into hospice?
> I miss him so much as he was my advisor as well as my friend.
> Prayers to you and yours
> Jeanie
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> Christian
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015 15 mg
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
> Dr Gedia PCD
> 0 CBL. ABL
> July 2018 dx with thyroid disease tsh 13
> T4-normal t3-normal
>
> On Nov 19, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Hi Sherri,
>
> This is Shaun.  My family and I greatly appreciate your heartwarming
> gift.  Thank you so very much for that.  My Mom (his wife, Rachelle) sends
> her thanks, as well.
>
> Regards,
> Shaun
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:27 PM sherri swanson <
> swanson.sherri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Shaun,
>>
>> I am so very sorry to hear about your dad. He was such a kind and gentile
>> man and he will be missed by many.  I wanted to let you know that I have
>> planted a tree in his name in Israel. May this serve as a living tribute to
>> his memory. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. Marty will
>> always be in my heart and on my mind.  My heart is broken knowing I will
>> not receive another message from Marty and we will no longer share share
>> photos.
>>
>>
>>
>> *As long as we live, they too will live; for they are now are a part of
>> us; as we remember them. *
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sherri Swanson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 6:29 PM Marty Gartenberg 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone -
>>>
>>> This is Marty's son, Shaun, again.  Thank-you all so much for all the
>>> stories, kind thoughts, wishes, and prayers for my Dad and our family.  We
>>> are all so grateful to know how loved he was and how he was able to touch
>>> so many lives in a profound way.
>>>
>>> Hi Wayne - please do not cancel this thread.  I am still checking in on
>>> it and relaying to rest of my family.  Just as he helped others, you all
>>> are helping us, and we appreciate that, so much.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Shaun
>>>
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2018-11-19 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Sherri,

This is Shaun.  My family and I greatly appreciate your heartwarming gift.
Thank you so very much for that.  My Mom (his wife, Rachelle) sends her
thanks, as well.

Regards,
Shaun

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:27 PM sherri swanson 
wrote:

> Hello Shaun,
>
> I am so very sorry to hear about your dad. He was such a kind and gentile
> man and he will be missed by many.  I wanted to let you know that I have
> planted a tree in his name in Israel. May this serve as a living tribute to
> his memory. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. Marty will
> always be in my heart and on my mind.  My heart is broken knowing I will
> not receive another message from Marty and we will no longer share share
> photos.
>
>
>
> *As long as we live, they too will live; for they are now are a part of
> us; as we remember them. *
>
> Regards,
>
> Sherri Swanson
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 6:29 PM Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone -
>>
>> This is Marty's son, Shaun, again.  Thank-you all so much for all the
>> stories, kind thoughts, wishes, and prayers for my Dad and our family.  We
>> are all so grateful to know how loved he was and how he was able to touch
>> so many lives in a profound way.
>>
>> Hi Wayne - please do not cancel this thread.  I am still checking in on
>> it and relaying to rest of my family.  Just as he helped others, you all
>> are helping us, and we appreciate that, so much.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shaun
>>
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>>
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>>>
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>>> and supported so many of us. His strength and courage held me up at times
>>> he didn't even know about. He will be missed. Blessings and much love to
>>> you and your family.
>>>
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2018-11-14 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi everyone -

This is Marty's son, Shaun, again.  Thank-you all so much for all the
stories, kind thoughts, wishes, and prayers for my Dad and our family.  We
are all so grateful to know how loved he was and how he was able to touch
so many lives in a profound way.

Hi Wayne - please do not cancel this thread.  I am still checking in on it
and relaying to rest of my family.  Just as he helped others, you all are
helping us, and we appreciate that, so much.

Regards,
Shaun

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>
> Dear Shaun and Family,
>
> I am so sorry for your loss. He was truly an amazing person who inspired
> and supported so many of us. His strength and courage held me up at times
> he didn't even know about. He will be missed. Blessings and much love to
> you and your family.
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Re: [CMLHope] Thyroid bad

2018-10-01 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Jeanie iam in rehab right now and need to have talk with you about YOU why
in haven don't you where a led lined neck brace the next time you get in
touch with me i will tell you. 18s Marty

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 3:17 AM 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
wrote:

> Hi all I got my thyroid test back. The counts err very high so went back
> to taking meds.  Check it again in 6 weeks.
> I am sure it’s all these meds.  Did you know even the X-rays from dentist
> can hurt thyroid. They say to asked for a protection mask.  I have never
> heard about this in all my years at the dentist. You?
> They order mri like it’s a trip to the candy store I had 3 last year with
> no answers.
> If those tests are killing our thyroids then we need to be told.  Right?
> Have s wonderful day.
> Love you so very much
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> 18’s to Marty
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015 15 mg
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
> Dr Gedia PCD
> 0 CBL. ABL
> Taking 0.05mg 50 mcg levothyroxine
> July 2018 dx with thyroid disease tsh 13
> T4-normal t3-normal
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Re: [CMLHope] Blood work Moffitt perfect

2018-09-25 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Thanks beth 18s

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 10:22 AM bkbarney via CMLHope <
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> Marty,, so sorry to hear about your broken leg!! Oh my gosh! May you heal
> fast and well.  Much love and 18's Beth
> And Jeannie- you have the right to see a doctor- just ask...sometimes we
> have to be very forth right about our needs. The system is very over
> crowded..those more acute often rise to the top of the lline. While this is
> sometimes appropriate, in many cases, I think we still deserve the right to
> have time with our doctors and get the support, guidance and reassurance we
> need.
>
> 18's to all,
>
> Beth
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marty Gartenberg 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Tue, Sep 25, 2018 3:43 am
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Blood work Moffitt perfect
>
> Jeanie you see you see you see what do i keep telling you change geers
> trust yourself now something else broke my leg had  surgery in rehab talk
> later Marty 18s
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 1:36 PM 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all
> My blood work at Moffitt today came back perfect!
> Praise the Lord!!
> God is so good to me.
> Love you so very much
> ❤️❤️
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> 18’s to Marty
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015 15 mg
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
> Dr Gedia PCD
> 0 CBL. ABL
> Taking 0.05mg 50 mcg levothyroxine
> July 2018 dx with thyroid disease tsh 13
> T4-normal t3-normal
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Re: [CMLHope] Blood work Moffitt perfect

2018-09-25 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Jeanie you see you see you see what do i keep telling you change geers
trust yourself now something else broke my leg had  surgery in rehab talk
later Marty 18s

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 1:36 PM 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
wrote:

>
> Hi all
> My blood work at Moffitt today came back perfect!
> Praise the Lord!!
> God is so good to me.
> Love you so very much
> ❤️❤️
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> 18’s to Marty
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015 15 mg
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
> Dr Gedia PCD
> 0 CBL. ABL
> Taking 0.05mg 50 mcg levothyroxine
> July 2018 dx with thyroid disease tsh 13
> T4-normal t3-normal
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Re: [CMLHope] Re: Breathing Difficulties [Dasatinib]

2018-09-10 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Jeanie, Are you a depression head? I think that you need to add something
to your motto. But before I say it. You need to turn your head around and
look strait and just think about this... They are your own words and tell
me what you see...
Yes my onc reduced my Ponatinib >>AS SOON AS MY NUMBERS GOT GOOD< wrote:

> Hi perk
> Yes my onc reduced my Ponatinib as soon as my numbers got good.
> It’s so hard to know what to do.  We are scared to take mds but know we
> will die if we don’t.
> Good luck with all.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> 18’s to Marty
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015 15 mg
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
> Dr Gedia PCD
> 0 CBL. ABL
> Taking 0.05mg 50 mcg levothyroxine
> July 2018 dx with thyroid disease tsh 13
> T4-normal t3-normal
>
> On Jul 30, 2018, at 2:24 PM, perk  wrote:
>
> I had the same problem with Sprycel. I went into the hospital thinking
> they were going to drain the fluid around my lungs. They took me off of
> Sprycel and on Tasigna. They also gave me Lasix to assist in removing the
> fluid. They cautioned that I may experience the same problem with Tasigna.
> I started taking it every other day instead of everyday and so far, my
> numbers have been good. I feel a little tightness in my chest sometimes but
> I seem to do better by not taking it everyday. Why did they increase your
> dosage? I think they prescribe too much sometimes and you should listen to
> your own body. This may not be good advice but it has worked for me.
>
> Good luck
>
> Perk in Texas
>
> On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 8:26:52 AM UTC-5, Ragavan wrote:
>>
>> I was taking 50mg Dasatinib per day. An year back it was increased to
>> 75mg. For the last few months breathing difficulty is keep increasing. I am
>> not able to take full breath. It is always half breath. I will discuss with
>> my doctor in the coming visit.
>>
>> Did anybody else face the same problem? How did you handle? Please help.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Ragavan
>>
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] Re: Breathing Difficulties [Dasatinib]

Jeanie, you listen to me! You are still alive and that is the way that it
will be. Why are you so afraid of the medication that helps keep you alive?
Please just don't you keep worring because what will that do? It will just
make you worry even more.

Okay Jeanie I see that you may need a pep talk every once in a while. Well
I don't give any pep talks. You are the one that has to give yourself pep
talks every once in a while, And don't you worry I will still be here
holding your hand/s through our computer. Got it? Good, then stuff it under
your belt and keep it there. By the way I just got a brand new Dell
computer and just finished loading everything up on it. So it is a fresh
computer with fresh vibes.

Now something I can help you do for yourself.

I am ending this this with two (count them)  18's18's  so when you read
this take both of your index fingers and touch one of your temples very
gently and a light message to your temple and do the same with your other
index finger on your other temple and just put your head back and relax.

This is what I used to do after a Radiation treatment when I had a real bad
headache.

Does it sound crazy? Perhaps but who knows maybe it isn't?

You know the numbers...

18's

Marty

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 8:47 AM 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi perk
> Yes my onc reduced my Ponatinib as soon as my numbers got good.
> It’s so hard to know what to do.  We are scared to take mds but know we
> will die if we don’t.
> Good luck with all.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> 18’s to Marty
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015 15 mg
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
> Dr Gedia PCD
> 0 CBL. ABL
> Taking 0.05mg 50 mcg levothyroxine
> July 2018 dx with thyroid disease tsh 13
> T4-normal t3-normal
>
> On Jul 30, 2018, at 2:24 PM, perk  wrote:
>
> I had the same problem with Sprycel. I went into the hospital thinking
> they were going to drain the fluid around my lungs. They took me off of
> Sprycel and on Tasigna. They also gave me Lasix to assist in removing the
> fluid. They cautioned that I may experience the same problem with Tasigna.
> I started taking it every other day instead of everyday and so far, my
> numbers have been good. I feel a little tightness in my chest sometimes but
> I seem to do better by not taking it everyday. Why did they increase your
> dosage? I think they prescribe too much sometimes and you should listen to
> your own body. This may not be good advice but it has worked for me.
>
> Good luck
>
> Perk in Texas
>
> On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 8:26:52 AM UTC-5, Ragavan wrote:
>>
>> I was taking 50mg Dasatinib per day. An year back it was increased to
>> 75mg. For the last few months breathing difficulty is keep increasing. I am
>> not able to take full breath. It is always half breath. I will discuss with
>> my doctor in the coming visit.
>>
>> Did anybody else face the same problem? How did you handle? Please help.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Ragavan
>>
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] Breathing Difficulties [Dasatinib]

https://www.verywellhealth.com/the-lowdown-on-unani-medicine-90032

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/10428194.2014.982639

Hi Ragavan, I'm glad that your feeling better, and as I have already
explained to you that you are not imagining this because your mind KNOWS
when you are felling better as well as when your feeling worse. And I am
sure that you already know this.

Now I have included a couple of links that give you some information and I
want you to thoroughly read and understand about the side effects. You have
to remember that your not so much dealing with arthritis or cataracts but
with CML for the most part.

When I try to help someone I may sit up until early in the morning trying
to understand more about the subjects I am looking for. In your case I want
to make sure that you know the best ways to help yourself try to help
yourself. Yes I know that I am not a doctor nor are you. There are doctors
out there that sometimes also have to learn new things, and as my father
told me about learning new things every day. So just let me repeat this
once again:

When someone learns something new every day then they become smarter. When
they refuse or or not willing then they revert back to yesterday.

Raganvan that includes you, me and all of the doctors in the world.

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Gopalsamy Ragavan 
wrote:

> Dear Marty,
>
> Thanks for the long caring reply. :)
>
> I am from Chennai, India and part of this group from 2012. Somehow I ended
> up as silent observer. I think I was wrong to be so.
>
> I was diagnosed at the age of 37.
> I started with Imatinib 400mg per day in 2012.
> In 2015, after F359V mutation, switched to Sprycel.
> Initially dosage was very high. That brought down platelet count
> drastically. So the dosage was slowly reduced to check the suitable amount.
> 50mg was working fine. But BCR-ABL wasn't very good. So it was decided to
> check with 70mg per day. Everything is fine including BCR-ABL.
> The only problem is breathing difficulty.
>
> For the last four days, I am taking Indian Herbal medication (Siddha) to
> reduce the water retention in the body. Siddha medicines are usually made
> of herbs and the side effects are almost NIL. I see some improvements in
> face, especially while getting up in the morning. The puffiness under the
> eyes are reducing. Somehow today I find breathing is better compared to
> yesterday. Hope these are all not illusions. :)
>
> I am checking for the appointment with doctor.
>
> I was wondering whether anybody faced the same problem and mailed to this
> group. The wonderful responses are really lovely. :)
>
> I will keep you all updated on the progress.
>
> thanks,
> Ragavan
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:49 PM, Marty Gartenberg 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ragavan, I see that your probably new here because I have not seen
>> your name before. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
>>
>> First my name is Marty and I would like to take this opportunity to
>> welcome you here with us. You will find that we are usually an ordinary
>> bunch of caring and helpful people that like to learn from each other. What
>> I call this "club" is the club that no one wants to join or be a member of.
>> And so be this. However, since everyone here is an equal member and partner
>> then,,, Well we are stuck with each other. And believe it or not this is
>> really a good club to learn as well as teach yourself and at the same time
>> to teach others as well. We are unique group of people because we all share
>> something with one and other, and that is CML.
>>
>> So what can I say about us and you as well? We all share the goal of
>> working together and keep on living and enjoying life. And now you know
>> that because of so many advancements in how we are treated as well as in
>> the future, then things will get better and better.
>>
>> I had CML CML well over thirty years ago and let me tell you that I
>> really suffered not knowing if I would die or would live on for a very
>> short period of time. Now it is 2018 soon to be, within five months 2019.
>> And in spite of everything that we are still living subjects of GOD.
>>
>> Thirty years ago I had no other choice but you do now. I'm sure that you
>> have heard, take it one day at a time. Truer words have never been spoken.
>>
>> Now if you don't know anything or everything about CML then please read
>> what I am sending you. All that you have to do is sit down and read it. You
>> will see about some of the side effects concerning Sprycel one which
>> will be about your lungs, and it will say this is a "normal" thing that
>> happens to a lot of people. Now how does anyone try 

Re: [CMLHope] Re: Breathing Difficulties [Dasatinib]

Hi Ragavan, what is it that you don't understand? You should give some deep
thought to this.
The reason that it is called a practice is because of exactly that. You may
not know what is going on with you BUT your body will know. If you can
honestly feel that your body is working against you then it probably is.
However, there are a couple of options that you can do. One is try and find
another doctor for his or her option, and the next is don't deal with it...
BUT in option two then you are fooling yourself and your body as well. If I
were you I would try option one.

You are your body's best line of defence.

18's,

Marty


On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 2:24 PM, perk  wrote:

> I had the same problem with Sprycel. I went into the hospital thinking
> they were going to drain the fluid around my lungs. They took me off of
> Sprycel and on Tasigna. They also gave me Lasix to assist in removing the
> fluid. They cautioned that I may experience the same problem with Tasigna.
> I started taking it every other day instead of everyday and so far, my
> numbers have been good. I feel a little tightness in my chest sometimes but
> I seem to do better by not taking it everyday. Why did they increase your
> dosage? I think they prescribe too much sometimes and you should listen to
> your own body. This may not be good advice but it has worked for me.
>
> Good luck
>
> Perk in Texas
>
> On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 8:26:52 AM UTC-5, Ragavan wrote:
>>
>> I was taking 50mg Dasatinib per day. An year back it was increased to
>> 75mg. For the last few months breathing difficulty is keep increasing. I am
>> not able to take full breath. It is always half breath. I will discuss with
>> my doctor in the coming visit.
>>
>> Did anybody else face the same problem? How did you handle? Please help.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Ragavan
>>
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] Siggy

Hey, go get him Siggy Just look at that face with the pink washcloth
sticking out of his mouth

18's,

Marty

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 1:24 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> My granddaughter is an artist. This is her rendition of Siggy as we call
> him.
> Have a great Evening everyone.
>
>
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> 18’s to Marty
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015 15 mg
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
> Dr Gedia PCD
> 0 CBL. ABL
> Taking 0.05mg 50 mcg levothyroxine
> July 2018 dx with thyroid disease tsh 13
> T4-normal t3-normal
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Re: [CMLHope] Breathing Difficulties [Dasatinib]

Hi Ragavan, I see that your probably new here because I have not seen your
name before. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

First my name is Marty and I would like to take this opportunity to welcome
you here with us. You will find that we are usually an ordinary bunch of
caring and helpful people that like to learn from each other. What I call
this "club" is the club that no one wants to join or be a member of. And so
be this. However, since everyone here is an equal member and partner
then,,, Well we are stuck with each other. And believe it or not this is
really a good club to learn as well as teach yourself and at the same time
to teach others as well. We are unique group of people because we all share
something with one and other, and that is CML.

So what can I say about us and you as well? We all share the goal of
working together and keep on living and enjoying life. And now you know
that because of so many advancements in how we are treated as well as in
the future, then things will get better and better.

I had CML CML well over thirty years ago and let me tell you that I really
suffered not knowing if I would die or would live on for a very short
period of time. Now it is 2018 soon to be, within five months 2019. And in
spite of everything that we are still living subjects of GOD.

Thirty years ago I had no other choice but you do now. I'm sure that you
have heard, take it one day at a time. Truer words have never been spoken.

Now if you don't know anything or everything about CML then please read
what I am sending you. All that you have to do is sit down and read it. You
will see about some of the side effects concerning Sprycel one which will
be about your lungs, and it will say this is a "normal" thing that happens
to a lot of people. Now how does anyone try to explain what "normal" means?
I don't know but considering that we are all different from each other so
maybe normal has different meanings for different people.

IMPORTANT FACTS ABOUT SPRYCEL Most common side effects Side effects of
SPRYCEL that are considered common in adults.

Be sure to read all about this and as I previously stated... Take one day
at a time.

I will leave you with something that my father once taught me a very long
time ago, and  a symbol of life... He said to me that if you take the time
to learn something new every day then you will become smarter, but if you
do not want or refuse to learn something new every day then you will revert
to going back to yesterday.

18's. = life

Marty

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Gopalsamy Ragavan 
wrote:

> I was taking 50mg Dasatinib per day. An year back it was increased to
> 75mg. For the last few months breathing difficulty is keep increasing. I am
> not able to take full breath. It is always half breath. I will discuss with
> my doctor in the coming visit.
>
> Did anybody else face the same problem? How did you handle? Please help.
>
> thanks,
> Ragavan
>
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Re: [CMLHope] Bosulif and high blood pressure

Joyce, I know, that's what Mommy Lottie used to do for everyone. Boy do I
miss her.

Just so you know I once made a promise to GOD while I was in the radiation
chamber about to get my first part of total body radiation. I got down on
my knees then clasped  my arms above my head and said my prayer to HIM.
Then I asked that if were to spare me I would like to help others through
what I am going through. Well I guess that HE answered me.
And then came Mommy Lottie and the world took a turn and she started
what I was doing and the world stood still. But then before Mommy Lottie
there was Zavie and Ida Miller. And the world starting rotation again.
There are some people in this world that in their own way that keep this
world rolling along. The thing is to find just who they are. But we just
manage, and they suddenly appear

18's

Marty

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:

> Marty,
> Very good article on Bosulif, high blood pressure and other side effects.
> Thank you.  You are a good searcher and we appreciate the time you take to
> find this type of information.  You are filling the void left by Mommy
> Lottie.
>   Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Jul 26, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
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> Hi Ana, I have seen you post many times before, and I know this is about
> your Mom.
>
> I just want to send you some information. But before I do I just want to
> tell you some infrmation from me. Thank GOD for these new TKI's because in
> order to have blood pressure wheather it is high or low one still has to be
> alive and THANK GOD that she is.
>
> https://www.ehealthme.com/ds/bosulif/high-blood-pressure/
>
> 18's and you already know what that is. It is having life.
>
> So again I wish her  and you and just about everyone 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Ana Burgos  wrote:
>
>> Anyone on Bosulif is getting high blood pressure?
>> Since my mum started Bosulif she has gone to emergency 3 times with very
>> high pressure!
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Re: [CMLHope] Bosulif and high blood pressure

Hi Ana, I have seen you post many times before, and I know this is about
your Mom.

I just want to send you some information. But before I do I just want to
tell you some infrmation from me. Thank GOD for these new TKI's because in
order to have blood pressure wheather it is high or low one still has to be
alive and THANK GOD that she is.

https://www.ehealthme.com/ds/bosulif/high-blood-pressure/

18's and you already know what that is. It is having life.

So again I wish her  and you and just about everyone 18's,

Marty

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Re: [CMLHope] Thyroid dosage?

It took about a month, but after a week or two it came back and lasted for
another few weeks. It was very difficult to explain, the tingling was in my
pinky and the inside side that touched my ring finger on it's side. But it
never came back again...

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 1:07 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks Marty and everyone. How long did it take for tingling to go away?
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> 18’s to Marty
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015 15 mg
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
> Dr Gedia PCD
> 0 CBL. ABL
> Taking 0.05mg 50 mcg levothyroxine
> July 2018 dx with thyroid disease tsh 13
> T4-normal t3-normal
>
> On Jul 24, 2018, at 9:50 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Hi Jeanie and Joyce,
>
> First to Jeanie: I am very sorry that you are having this problem but you
> should know that this will be corrected very soon. And the fact that your
> having all of these problems especially about your swaeting and the
> temporary loss or tingling of one of your fingers. I am "happy" that you
> brought this up because that is also what happened to me as well. In my
> case it was my pinky on my right hand, but it will go away.
>
> Now I did ask you if your dose may be incorrect because if in fact it was
> 50 mg  and not micrograms then you would have been in the hospital for sure
> and who knows what would have happened to you. You see that is what is GOOD
> about this CMLhope site. And you know why, it is because other people care
> about each other.
>
> So now let's bring in Joyce: So miss Joyce I need you to stand up and very
> gently pat yourself on the back, and if you want to curtsy a little bit
> then be my guest.
>
> Oh please don't let me forget those cherries for Jeanie as well.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 7:51 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Joyce
>> Yes I was wrong about dosage. It was 0.05mg
>> I took a whole 5o this morning but I’m sweating really bAd and shaking.
>> So I’m going back to half.
>> I woke up a few months ago and my right finger was numb.
>> Anyone have that?
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> Jeanie
>> free
>> 18’s to Marty
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>> Dr Balducci retired
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 10:34 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
>>
>> Jeanie,
>> I would take the dosage your Dr advised.  My husband is taking 150.  He
>> has been taking it so long that we can’t really remember how often he did
>> blood tests when he first started.  I think it was every 3 months.  Now he
>> gets tested every 6 months.  That, evidently, is what Medicare will pay for
>> and deems necessary.  I takes a while for your body to build up the
>>  thyroid.  I think you should take the whole dosage.  It may even be
>> adjusted higher as you go along and they find the right amount that you
>> need.  50 sounds like a very low dose.  Don’t think you should have any
>> problems with it.  Hope you feel better soon.  My husband never noticed any
>> difference in how he felt.  He was diagnosed before he had any symptoms, I
>> guess.
>>  God bless and keep you,
>> Joyce in Southern Illinois
>>
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 1:29 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> My dr gave me 50 mg but I am taking half. Should I take the full dose?
>> 18’s
>> How often to get tested?
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> Jeanie
>> free
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>> Dr Balducci retired
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Great drug! I have been taking it for many, many years. What dose is he
>> on?
>>
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
>>
>>> 

Re: [CMLHope] Thyroid dosage?

Hi Jeanie and Joyce,

First to Jeanie: I am very sorry that you are having this problem but you
should know that this will be corrected very soon. And the fact that your
having all of these problems especially about your swaeting and the
temporary loss or tingling of one of your fingers. I am "happy" that you
brought this up because that is also what happened to me as well. In my
case it was my pinky on my right hand, but it will go away.

Now I did ask you if your dose may be incorrect because if in fact it was
50 mg  and not micrograms then you would have been in the hospital for sure
and who knows what would have happened to you. You see that is what is GOOD
about this CMLhope site. And you know why, it is because other people care
about each other.

So now let's bring in Joyce: So miss Joyce I need you to stand up and very
gently pat yourself on the back, and if you want to curtsy a little bit
then be my guest.

Oh please don't let me forget those cherries for Jeanie as well.

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 7:51 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you Joyce
> Yes I was wrong about dosage. It was 0.05mg
> I took a whole 5o this morning but I’m sweating really bAd and shaking.
> So I’m going back to half.
> I woke up a few months ago and my right finger was numb.
> Anyone have that?
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> 18’s to Marty
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jul 19, 2018, at 10:34 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
>
> Jeanie,
> I would take the dosage your Dr advised.  My husband is taking 150.  He
> has been taking it so long that we can’t really remember how often he did
> blood tests when he first started.  I think it was every 3 months.  Now he
> gets tested every 6 months.  That, evidently, is what Medicare will pay for
> and deems necessary.  I takes a while for your body to build up the
>  thyroid.  I think you should take the whole dosage.  It may even be
> adjusted higher as you go along and they find the right amount that you
> need.  50 sounds like a very low dose.  Don’t think you should have any
> problems with it.  Hope you feel better soon.  My husband never noticed any
> difference in how he felt.  He was diagnosed before he had any symptoms, I
> guess.
>  God bless and keep you,
> Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2018, at 1:29 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> My dr gave me 50 mg but I am taking half. Should I take the full dose?
> 18’s
> How often to get tested?
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Great drug! I have been taking it for many, many years. What dose is he
> on?
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
>
>> Jeanie,
>> My husband has had hypothyroidism for years…..before he got CML.  It
>> never caused him any problems.  It was diagnosed at a regular office visit
>> with a blood test.  He takes levothyroxin and has regular blood tests.
>>
>> Joyce in Southern Illinois
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:57 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a thyroid problem?
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> Jeanie
>> free
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>> Dr Balducci retired
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Okay Jeanie,
>>
>> Since there is a lot to talk about I will do it between your lines.
>>
>> Hi
>> That’s cute
>> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
>> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
>> seen that before.
>>
>> OH I DID, BECAUSE MY PARENTS CAME FROM EUROPE AND IT WAS THEIR CUSTOM THE
>> WAY THAT THEY WOULD USUALLY DO

Re: [CMLHope] IMG_6459.JPG

How about a very large
garden...

18's,

Marty

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:

> They are beautiful.
> Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
> On Jul 19, 2018, at 6:46 PM, sherri swanson 
> wrote:
>
> I love the Pink Lillie's!
>
> Sherri
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Marty Gartenberg 
> wrote:
>
>> Pink Lilies Close as I can get...
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 2:56 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> My Motto:
>>> Faith and Pills
>>> With Love
>>> Jeanie
>>> free
>>> 18’s to Marty
>>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>>> Dr Balducci retired
>>>
>>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>>
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Re: [CMLHope] Thyroid dosage?

Jeanie,

I think that your getting
micrograms verses milligrams mixed up???

18's,

Marty

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 2:29 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> My dr gave me 50 mg but I am taking half. Should I take the full dose?
> 18’s
> How often to get tested?
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Great drug! I have been taking it for many, many years. What dose is he
> on?
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
>
>> Jeanie,
>> My husband has had hypothyroidism for years…..before he got CML.  It
>> never caused him any problems.  It was diagnosed at a regular office visit
>> with a blood test.  He takes levothyroxin and has regular blood tests.
>>
>> Joyce in Southern Illinois
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:57 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a thyroid problem?
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> Jeanie
>> free
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>> Dr Balducci retired
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Okay Jeanie,
>>
>> Since there is a lot to talk about I will do it between your lines.
>>
>> Hi
>> That’s cute
>> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
>> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
>> seen that before.
>>
>> OH I DID, BECAUSE MY PARENTS CAME FROM EUROPE AND IT WAS THEIR CUSTOM THE
>> WAY THAT THEY WOULD USUALLY DO IT WAS FIRST CAME MY MOM AND SHE WOULD HUG
>> AND THEN KISS ME. THEN CAME MY DAD. WHAT HE WOULD DO WAS FIRST HUG ME THEN
>> KISS ME AND THEN HE WOULD GIVE ME WHAT WAS CALLED A KNIPPLE. DO YOU KNOW
>> WHAT A KINPPLE IS? WELL IT HURT LIKE HE NEVER WANTED ME TO FORGET HIM.
>>
>> HE WOULD GRASP MY CHECK BETWEEN HIS THUMB AND INDEX FINGERS AND SORT OF
>> TWIST AND THEN LET GO. I COULDN'T WAIT TILL IT WAS OVER BUT AS I LEARNED
>> LATER ON IN LIFE HE JUST WANTED ME TO KNOW THAT HE AND MOM WOULD NEVER
>> FORGET THEM
>>
>> His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just the way we were.
>> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.
>>
>> BY THE WAY THERE IS A HEBREW WORD THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD BEFORE,
>> SHALOM. IT MEANS WHEN YOU ARE APPROACHING SOMEONE, HELLO, WHEN YOU ARE ON
>> THEIR SIDE IT MEANS PEACE AND WHEN YOU PASS THEM IT MEANS GOODBYE
>>
>> I THINK THAT HE JUST NEEDED A KNIPPLE.
>>
>> Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill.
>> How are you today?
>>
>> HEY JEANIE, KINPPLES FOR EVERY ONE. 
>>
>> I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch.
>> I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
>>
>> BOTH OF MY PARENTS WERE COOKS AND MY FATHER WAS ALSO A BAKER. WE DIDN'T
>> HAVE A LOT OF MONEY BUT WE SURE HAD A LOT OF BREAD. WE LEARNED TO MAKE DO.
>> A WHOLE STORY BEHIND THIS BUT FOR ANOTHER TIME...
>>
>> I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.
>> She fought hard.
>> I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she
>> didn’t know what she would do if she couldn’t do her sewing and etc.
>> though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More later——
>>
>> THAT'S WHY I CALLED HER MOMMY LOTTIE.
>>
>> And she knew what 18's meant.
>>
>> So 18's,
>>
>> Marty, and a Knipple to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:05 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> That’s cute
>>> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
>>> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
>>> seen that before.  His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just
>>> the way we were.
>>> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.
>>> Same way with my kids. I tell

Re: [CMLHope] Sudden problem after twenty years.

Thank you Joyce.

18's,

Marty

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:07 AM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:

> I think he is on 150 micrograms.
>Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Great drug! I have been taking it for many, many years. What dose is he
> on?
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
>
>> Jeanie,
>> My husband has had hypothyroidism for years…..before he got CML.  It
>> never caused him any problems.  It was diagnosed at a regular office visit
>> with a blood test.  He takes levothyroxin and has regular blood tests.
>>
>> Joyce in Southern Illinois
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:57 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a thyroid problem?
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> Jeanie
>> free
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>> Dr Balducci retired
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Okay Jeanie,
>>
>> Since there is a lot to talk about I will do it between your lines.
>>
>> Hi
>> That’s cute
>> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
>> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
>> seen that before.
>>
>> OH I DID, BECAUSE MY PARENTS CAME FROM EUROPE AND IT WAS THEIR CUSTOM THE
>> WAY THAT THEY WOULD USUALLY DO IT WAS FIRST CAME MY MOM AND SHE WOULD HUG
>> AND THEN KISS ME. THEN CAME MY DAD. WHAT HE WOULD DO WAS FIRST HUG ME THEN
>> KISS ME AND THEN HE WOULD GIVE ME WHAT WAS CALLED A KNIPPLE. DO YOU KNOW
>> WHAT A KINPPLE IS? WELL IT HURT LIKE HE NEVER WANTED ME TO FORGET HIM.
>>
>> HE WOULD GRASP MY CHECK BETWEEN HIS THUMB AND INDEX FINGERS AND SORT OF
>> TWIST AND THEN LET GO. I COULDN'T WAIT TILL IT WAS OVER BUT AS I LEARNED
>> LATER ON IN LIFE HE JUST WANTED ME TO KNOW THAT HE AND MOM WOULD NEVER
>> FORGET THEM
>>
>> His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just the way we were.
>> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.
>>
>> BY THE WAY THERE IS A HEBREW WORD THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD BEFORE,
>> SHALOM. IT MEANS WHEN YOU ARE APPROACHING SOMEONE, HELLO, WHEN YOU ARE ON
>> THEIR SIDE IT MEANS PEACE AND WHEN YOU PASS THEM IT MEANS GOODBYE
>>
>> I THINK THAT HE JUST NEEDED A KNIPPLE.
>>
>> Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill.
>> How are you today?
>>
>> HEY JEANIE, KINPPLES FOR EVERY ONE. 
>>
>> I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch.
>> I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
>>
>> BOTH OF MY PARENTS WERE COOKS AND MY FATHER WAS ALSO A BAKER. WE DIDN'T
>> HAVE A LOT OF MONEY BUT WE SURE HAD A LOT OF BREAD. WE LEARNED TO MAKE DO.
>> A WHOLE STORY BEHIND THIS BUT FOR ANOTHER TIME...
>>
>> I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.
>> She fought hard.
>> I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she
>> didn’t know what she would do if she couldn’t do her sewing and etc.
>> though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More later——
>>
>> THAT'S WHY I CALLED HER MOMMY LOTTIE.
>>
>> And she knew what 18's meant.
>>
>> So 18's,
>>
>> Marty, and a Knipple to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:05 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> That’s cute
>>> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
>>> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
>>> seen that before.  His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just
>>> the way we were.
>>> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.
>>> Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill.
>>> How are you today?
>>> I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch.
>>> I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
>>> I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.
>>> She fought hard.
>>> I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she
>>> didn’t know what she would do if she couldn’t do her 

Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sudden problem after twenty years.

Great drug! I have been taking it for many, many years. What dose is he on?

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:

> Jeanie,
> My husband has had hypothyroidism for years…..before he got CML.  It never
> caused him any problems.  It was diagnosed at a regular office visit with a
> blood test.  He takes levothyroxin and has regular blood tests.
>
> Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:57 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone have a thyroid problem?
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Okay Jeanie,
>
> Since there is a lot to talk about I will do it between your lines.
>
> Hi
> That’s cute
> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
> seen that before.
>
> OH I DID, BECAUSE MY PARENTS CAME FROM EUROPE AND IT WAS THEIR CUSTOM THE
> WAY THAT THEY WOULD USUALLY DO IT WAS FIRST CAME MY MOM AND SHE WOULD HUG
> AND THEN KISS ME. THEN CAME MY DAD. WHAT HE WOULD DO WAS FIRST HUG ME THEN
> KISS ME AND THEN HE WOULD GIVE ME WHAT WAS CALLED A KNIPPLE. DO YOU KNOW
> WHAT A KINPPLE IS? WELL IT HURT LIKE HE NEVER WANTED ME TO FORGET HIM.
>
> HE WOULD GRASP MY CHECK BETWEEN HIS THUMB AND INDEX FINGERS AND SORT OF
> TWIST AND THEN LET GO. I COULDN'T WAIT TILL IT WAS OVER BUT AS I LEARNED
> LATER ON IN LIFE HE JUST WANTED ME TO KNOW THAT HE AND MOM WOULD NEVER
> FORGET THEM
>
> His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just the way we were.
> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.
>
> BY THE WAY THERE IS A HEBREW WORD THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD BEFORE,
> SHALOM. IT MEANS WHEN YOU ARE APPROACHING SOMEONE, HELLO, WHEN YOU ARE ON
> THEIR SIDE IT MEANS PEACE AND WHEN YOU PASS THEM IT MEANS GOODBYE
>
> I THINK THAT HE JUST NEEDED A KNIPPLE.
>
> Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill.
> How are you today?
>
> HEY JEANIE, KINPPLES FOR EVERY ONE. 
>
> I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch.
> I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
>
> BOTH OF MY PARENTS WERE COOKS AND MY FATHER WAS ALSO A BAKER. WE DIDN'T
> HAVE A LOT OF MONEY BUT WE SURE HAD A LOT OF BREAD. WE LEARNED TO MAKE DO.
> A WHOLE STORY BEHIND THIS BUT FOR ANOTHER TIME...
>
> I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.
> She fought hard.
> I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she didn’t
> know what she would do if she couldn’t do her sewing and etc.
> though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More later——
>
> THAT'S WHY I CALLED HER MOMMY LOTTIE.
>
> And she knew what 18's meant.
>
> So 18's,
>
> Marty, and a Knipple to you.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:05 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> That’s cute
>> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
>> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
>> seen that before.  His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just
>> the way we were.
>> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.
>> Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill.
>> How are you today?
>> I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch.
>> I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
>> I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.
>> She fought hard.
>> I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she
>> didn’t know what she would do if she couldn’t do her sewing and etc.
>> though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More later——
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> Jeanie
>> free
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>> Dr Balducci retired
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Jeanie, And I love you to, but when you say " Love you so very much" Do
>> you mean like hugging me so much that your

Re: [CMLHope] Tomato pepper plants

Ahhh the
kids!  Which
ones?

18's,

Marty

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:50 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I sure wish I could but I don’t do any socializing anymore.
> I’m away a lot with my daughters and it’s enough for me
> I don’t cook either.
> It’s funny, that used to be my life, cooking and eating. I had 5 children
> so you can imagine the cooking I did.
> Now I let the kids do it.
> Love
> Jeanie
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> I'm coming over to you. I will bring the bread you cut up the vegetables
> and cook them. Let's have a party!
>
> Gee I get to do it again.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:38 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> Jeanie
>> free
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>> Dr Balducci retired
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] Rose garden

Red ant pellets Home Depot they sprinkle when you tinkle.

Here we go again...

18's

Marty, now we will live forever!

On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:34 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Awe!  I didn’t know that. So far so good but those big red ants have taken
> over my yard and I’m sure killed my Japanese plum trees.
> Also my fruit trees are in bad shape. Could be same thing.
> I’m like you just go with it. I try not to plant things that need a lot of
> watering.
> Blessings.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On May 8, 2018, at 10:28 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jeanie,
>
> Rabbits and squirrels ate my rose bushes down to the earth for the fifth
> and final straight year..so I just dug up the roots, and am going to plant
> an alternative flowering bush that they don't eat...I just came home from
> work and saw two squirrels running up my front tree with the heads of two
> of my beautiful tulips in their mouths.. around the tree are ten bulb
> heads...beheadings thanks to the squirrels handy work... sooo
> frustrating..I surrender to my animal friends...
>
> Thankfully they do not eat daffodils or hyacinth or hydrangea..
>
> I have pain every day Jeanie, do my best to ignore it, if I have to I take
> some meds for it...am working on eating more plant based and anti
> inflammation diet to see if I feel better...
> Doing O.K.   grateful for the spring time because it always lifts me to
> distract myself with my gardening...
>
> lots and lots to do!!!
>
> much love to all...nice to hear from Susan Z and others who haven't
> written in awhile...How are GReenie, and Richard and Skip, etc???
>
> 18's Beth
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Tue, May 8, 2018 2:29 pm
> Subject: [CMLHope] Rose garden
>
> Rose garden my son planted for Mother’s Day.  I don’t have much luck with
> them but wish me luck with these.
> Thanks
>
> 
>
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
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Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sudden problem after twenty years.

Okay Jeanie,

Since there is a lot to talk about I will do it between your lines.

Hi
That’s cute
When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
seen that before.

OH I DID, BECAUSE MY PARENTS CAME FROM EUROPE AND IT WAS THEIR CUSTOM THE
WAY THAT THEY WOULD USUALLY DO IT WAS FIRST CAME MY MOM AND SHE WOULD HUG
AND THEN KISS ME. THEN CAME MY DAD. WHAT HE WOULD DO WAS FIRST HUG ME THEN
KISS ME AND THEN HE WOULD GIVE ME WHAT WAS CALLED A KNIPPLE. DO YOU KNOW
WHAT A KINPPLE IS? WELL IT HURT LIKE HE NEVER WANTED ME TO FORGET HIM.

HE WOULD GRASP MY CHECK BETWEEN HIS THUMB AND INDEX FINGERS AND SORT OF
TWIST AND THEN LET GO. I COULDN'T WAIT TILL IT WAS OVER BUT AS I LEARNED
LATER ON IN LIFE HE JUST WANTED ME TO KNOW THAT HE AND MOM WOULD NEVER
FORGET THEM

His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just the way we were.
Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.

BY THE WAY THERE IS A HEBREW WORD THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD BEFORE,
SHALOM. IT MEANS WHEN YOU ARE APPROACHING SOMEONE, HELLO, WHEN YOU ARE ON
THEIR SIDE IT MEANS PEACE AND WHEN YOU PASS THEM IT MEANS GOODBYE

I THINK THAT HE JUST NEEDED A KNIPPLE.

Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill.
How are you today?

HEY JEANIE, KINPPLES FOR EVERY ONE. 

I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch.
I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?

BOTH OF MY PARENTS WERE COOKS AND MY FATHER WAS ALSO A BAKER. WE DIDN'T
HAVE A LOT OF MONEY BUT WE SURE HAD A LOT OF BREAD. WE LEARNED TO MAKE DO.
A WHOLE STORY BEHIND THIS BUT FOR ANOTHER TIME...

I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.
She fought hard.
I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she didn’t
know what she would do if she couldn’t do her sewing and etc.
though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More later——

THAT'S WHY I CALLED HER MOMMY LOTTIE.

And she knew what 18's meant.

So 18's,

Marty, and a Knipple to you.




On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:05 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi
> That’s cute
> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
> seen that before.  His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just
> the way we were.
> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.
> Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill.
> How are you today?
> I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch.
> I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
> I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.
> She fought hard.
> I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she didn’t
> know what she would do if she couldn’t do her sewing and etc.
> though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More later——
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jul 13, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Jeanie, And I love you to, but when you say " Love you so very much" Do
> you mean like hugging me so much that your going to crush me until my ribs
> crumble?
>
> Ah yet another opportunity to let me say again...
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:16 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> So true Marty
>> You aren’t even on tki’s and look what you’ve been through.
>> Thank you for this email.
>> Love you so very much
>> Jeanie
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> Jeanie
>> free
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>> Dr Balducci retired
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Oh Jeanie,
>>
>> first let me take you back to something I wrote to Richard
>>
>> I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the TKI
>> that they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it isn't that at
>> all? That is why they need to consult with their doctors because that is
>> his or her job. And if they feel that there is someone that can help as
>> well then get a second opinion. Don't forget they won't be hurt or
>> offen

Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sudden problem after twenty years.

Jeanie, And I love you to, but when you say " Love you so very much" Do you
mean like hugging me so much that your going to crush me until my ribs
crumble?

Ah yet another opportunity to let me say again...

18's,

Marty

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:16 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> So true Marty
> You aren’t even on tki’s and look what you’ve been through.
> Thank you for this email.
> Love you so very much
> Jeanie
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jul 10, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Oh Jeanie,
>
> first let me take you back to something I wrote to Richard
>
> I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the TKI
> that they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it isn't that at
> all? That is why they need to consult with their doctors because that is
> his or her job. And if they feel that there is someone that can help as
> well then get a second opinion. Don't forget they won't be hurt or
> offended because they are all getting together to help you.
>
>
> And we will now continue on. Please read this. I took the time to write it
> for a reason and I see that you took my advice. A lot more... But I
> want to hug your grand-daughter. My father once taught me a lesson and I
> think that you may want to pass this onto her, and yourself as well.
>
> When a person/s learns something new everyday then they become smarter.
> When a person/s refuses to learn something every day then they revert back
> to yesterday.
>
> Hum, let me think. Oh yea I think that your grand-daughter already
> knows this?
>
>
> "Take it Day by day and as my granddaughter says". She said “every little
> thing’s gonna be alright.”
> ❤️
> Blood transfusions: A sort of long story but learning something new every
> day made me smarter and I am still alive... Jeanie I don't blame you for
> not wanting other peoples blood in you but let me ask you a question? How
> many units of blood did you require? Did it help you? Well i needn't know
> the answer because I already know but nothing that you told me but I know
> and here is why.
>
> I had O+ blood and my sister had B+ blood. So my transplant doctor told me
> that since my white blood count was past 186,000 that I need to have the
> bone marrow transplant now. Or I may not survive because I was in Blast
> crises that I was in.
>
> But he knew about my blood type wasn't a match for my sister but
> everything was perfect but the matching type. He told me that there may be
> a way to change my blood type but it could also cause my death. I then told
> him that i was dieing anyway so let's try it.
>
> He started it before my transplant. It would require that I would have to
> get many, many blood transfusions as well a a lot of platelets  infusions,
> and Gama globulin and other human blood products.
>
> Who already knew about this? R* Z. Who showed up with 41
> "members" of his "family"
> (Yes you know what I mean about this) ready to donate blood. But there was
> a problem. At that time there was a new disease called AIDS and all of the
> blood banks started testing and this slowed down the collection of
> gathering of blood.
>
> Not to keep you on the edge of your seat. I once helped save a woman's
> life because she was dying of stage four breast cancer and I did this
> because I knew a doctor who may help her, and it took more then two years.
> He never forgot me.
>
> Some people just have their power but most don't. He was one of those that
> did to a certain extent. The way that I look about it was one life foe
> another.
>
> In order to have my blood type converted from O to B I needed 96 units of
> blood and I already knew where 41 of them came from. Just to let you know
> if a donated unit of blood did not match my blood profile it would be
> switched and someone else would get that unit of blood and a "trade" was
> made. I am now called a Chimera with B+ blood in me.
>
> Now I am going forward in my life once more: Twenty years later my kidneys
> started started to fail. I was on Dialysis for four years and through a
> miracle I was able to get a kidney transplant and while I was outside of
> the operating room I noticed a white cooler with a red cross and it said
> "Human organs, B right side short urethra.
>
> I almost jumped out of the gurney because it 

Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sudden problem after twenty years.

Hey Richard, yea, I used to say that to. The point is that we all care
about each other.

Besides it gives me another opportunity to say this again... 

18's,

Marty

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:02 AM, Richard H  wrote:

> GULP!!
>
> 18's Richard H.
>
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 1:04:15 PM UTC-5, Vivi wrote:
>>
>> I suddenly became terribly anemic and my doctor cut my intake of 400mg
>> Gleevec daily in half.  It took five months but I am no longer anemic and
>> the CML does not seem to have become visible as yet.  Has anyone else had a
>> problem like this?
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sudden problem after twenty years.

Richard, how close can we get? You and I are like blood relatives. I'll bet
you that we even have the same brand of pace-makers. And I am very happy to
be browbeating you, because I have been browbeaten by the best of them.. My
wife. Let's hear it from the rest of you gal's and guy's. It is my pleasure
because I have also branded you with 18's so your not leaving yet... Now a
favorite saying... CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW.

Also, now that you remember about Cranberry juice let me direct you to, but
choose the right one for your Diabetes:   https://www.diabetes.co.uk
/blog/2015/07/cranberry-juice-and-four-other-drinks-that-fight-diabetes/


Cranberry juice and other drinks... Stay away from Grapefruit mainly
because of your medications. Now about Apple cider vinegar stay away from
it because it taste like S*** Unless your eating a salad which also tastes
like well you already know. Do you want me to sneak in that four letter S
word? Richard do you remember when you were a kid and your mother gave you
a dose of Caster Oil? Same taste occurred in your mouth but you had to
swallow it didn't you. Don't tell me a mis-truth because I will know it...

But from what you are writing, then you seem to be getting on that ball
field again. Just take care of yourself, because do you know the best
person that can do it? YOU...
Now Richard what have you leaned today? Remember what my father once
taught. When someone learn something new everyday then they become smarter,
but if they refuse then they revert back to yesterday.

So you have learned something about me. Am I unusual? You bet I am.
Different things about Cranberry juice? Yep. Different thing about yourself
that you may not have known before? Yup again. So since both you and I and
everyone here has learned something new then we all  good for another three
days

Richard you know what's coming next?

18's,

Marty



On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Richard H  wrote:

> Thanks Marty.  Yes you are correct.  My ONC, My second Neurologist, and my
> Heart Specialist are aware of this.  I am on reduced Gleevec, Neurologist
> is totally involved and if/when the counts become higher he will make his
> recommendation, and Heart specialist has me on the latest .
> anti-colonization medicine.  She removed me from aspirin and when I was
> told I had lost part of my vision see in formed all she could do was add
> the aspirin and that would be the maximum she could/would do and also
> replace the pacemaker with an upgrade..  I won over diabetics so that is
> not a current problem. I still check blood counts every day.  I had
> forgotten about the cranberry juice but yes it does work.  My wife drank
> lots of it.
>
> Thanks for browbeating me, Drs time and our time sometimes a wee bit
> different.  At least they are all in the ballpark.  I just need to hit
> something that works to stay on the field.
>
> 18's
>
> Richard H.
>
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 11:47:01 PM UTC-5, wa2yyx wrote:
>>
>> Richard, now I know what your problem is. It is your kidney function
>> being 3 what is your doctor doing about this? That is why your HGB is so
>> low. Do you have a phrenologist near you? if so then go see him or her. Do
>> it as soon as you can. Because it is not to late. When I had to go onto
>> Dialysis my kidney function was already almost six. When I got my kidney
>> transplant it went down to .97 and there it is now.
>>
>> Now you mentioned "Probably headed for a stroke or stints in my neck".
>> Guess what? I already had a stroke. And have you discussed anything about
>> anti coagulants (blood thinners) with you doctor? Hopefully a Cardiac
>> doctor? And I now know how to take care of myself I also had a pace maker
>> implanted in my upper chest and it made a world of difference.
>>
>> Move yourself on I know what I am talking about. Are you diabetic? If so
>> do you take anything for it? Start drinking Cranberry juice if you can
>> because it will hydrate and clean your kidneys very important.
>>
>> Am I right? Do you think that your doctor is doing the right things for
>> you? I told you before get a second opinion.
>>
>> I can only give you suggestions but you are the one that carrys them out.
>> If you want to speak to me personally just let me know.
>>
>> I am now going to tell you what my father told me a long time ago... If
>> someone learns something new every day that will become smart, but if
>> someone refuses to learn something every day then they revert  back to
>> being yesterday. Please listen to me. I am just a mortal man. I am no one
>> special, but I have had so many things happen to me, but why am I still
>> alive? Do you want to know why as well? It is because WE are still here.
>>
>> 17's
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Richard H  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Marty.  Yes hemoglobin below 10. and himeric below 30 is
>>> correct..  That is for time to allow it to start doing its work and then
>>> will go toward normal.  If I take it  just over then the 

Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sudden problem after twenty years.

Richard and all, just like Jeanie wrote. do you know what a THS level is
all about? Let me post an article:
 Below I
I
I
 Richard has your oncologist mentioned that you should be on a blood
thinning medication? Even 81mg baby aspirin?  So why are you worried about
a stroke when you know that a simple medicine will probably prevent it. As
Jeanie stated and so did I... Listen to your body and do what you feel is
right.

I feel just like a Parrot Puppet with Jeanie pulling my strings because I
echo exactly what she squawks about because this makes me squawk about what
she says, and Richard we are right so let us do some squawking to you. And
do you know why? It is quite evident because she does it her way and I do
it my way...   ❤️❤  18's, Marty
Thyroxine, Triiodothyronine, and TSH Levels

The main job of the thyroid gland is to make the hormone thyroxine, also
known as T4 because it has four iodine molecules. The thyroid also makes
the hormone triiodothyronine, known as T3 because it has three iodine
molecules, but in smaller amounts, explains Cathy Doria-Medina, MD
<https://healthcarepartners.com/doctor/Endocrinology/Cathy-Lee-Doria-Medina/PRX80ZRQ68>,
an endocrinologist with HealthCare Partners Medical Group in Torrance,
California. “The thyroid gland makes mostly T4, [and] the T4 has to be
converted to T3, because T3 is the part of thyroxine that actually does the
work," she says.

The pituitary gland at the base of the brain controls hormone production in
your body. It makes thyroid-stimulating hormone, or TSH, which tells the
thyroid gland how much T4 and T3 to produce. The TSH level in your blood
reveals how much T4 your pituitary gland is asking your thyroid gland to
make. If your TSH levels are abnormally high, it could mean you have an
underactive thyroid, or hypothyroidism.

“TSH levels go in the opposite direction of your thyroid hormone,” Dr.
Doria-Medina explains. “If you’re making too little thyroid hormone, your
TSH will go up. If you’re making too much thyroid hormone, your TSH will go
down.”

What’s normal can vary depending on a number of factors, including the
laboratory where your blood test is done, she adds. A normal range for TSH
in most laboratories is 0.4 milliunits per liter (mU/L) to 4.0 mU/L.

If your TSH is higher than 4.0 mU/L on repeat tests, you probably have
hypothyroidism.

Your doctor may also order a T4 test. Most of the T4 in your blood attaches
to a protein, and when it does, it can’t get into your cells. Only T4 that
is unattached or “free” can get into your cells to go to work. A blood test
can measure how much free T4 is available.


On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 6:32 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard and all
> I take Ponatinib and one of the main side effects is stroke and blood
> clots along with many more. I knew this going in and since I was in blast I
> knew I had to do something.
> My onc advised an aspirin daily which I take. So far it is all working.
> Blood counts are good however I was just diagnosed with a Thyroid problem.
> My tsh is 13. Anyone else have this?
> I am very tired with weight loss and sweats at any time.   I am taking a
> small dose of thyroid med.
> when you are 80 you never know if it’s just old age or what.
> Listen to your body and do what you feel is right.  My mother and
> grandmother both had strokes when they were my age. Also s sister and aunt.
>
> Prayers to you and all
> ❤️❤️
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> free
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jul 11, 2018, at 12:46 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Richard, now I know what your problem is. It is your kidney function being
> 3 what is your doctor doing about this? That is why your HGB is so low. Do
> you have a nephroligist near you? if so then go see him or her. Do it as
> soon as you can. Because it is not to late. When I had to go onto Dialysis
> my kidney function was already almost six. When I got my kidney transplant
> it went down to .97 and there it is now.
>
> Now you mentioned "Probably headed for a stroke or stints in my neck".
> Guess what? I already had a stroke. And have you discussed anything about
> anti coagulants (blood thinners) with you doctor? Hopefully a Cardiac
> doctor? And I now know how to take care of myself I also had a pace maker
> implanted in my upper chest and it made a world of difference.
>
> Move yourself on I know what I am talking about. Are you diabetic? If so
> do you take anything for it? Start drinking Cranberry juice if you can
> because it will hydrate and clean your kidne

Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sudden problem after twenty years.

Richard, now I know what your problem is. It is your kidney function being
3 what is your doctor doing about this? That is why your HGB is so low. Do
you have a nephroligist near you? if so then go see him or her. Do it as
soon as you can. Because it is not to late. When I had to go onto Dialysis
my kidney function was already almost six. When I got my kidney transplant
it went down to .97 and there it is now.

Now you mentioned "Probably headed for a stroke or stints in my neck".
Guess what? I already had a stroke. And have you discussed anything about
anti coagulants (blood thinners) with you doctor? Hopefully a Cardiac
doctor? And I now know how to take care of myself I also had a pace maker
implanted in my upper chest and it made a world of difference.

Move yourself on I know what I am talking about. Are you diabetic? If so do
you take anything for it? Start drinking Cranberry juice if you can because
it will hydrate and clean your kidneys very important.

Am I right? Do you think that your doctor is doing the right things for
you? I told you before get a second opinion.

I can only give you suggestions but you are the one that carrys them out.
If you want to speak to me personally just let me know.

I am now going to tell you what my father told me a long time ago... If
someone learns something new every day that will become smart, but if
someone refuses to learn something every day then they revert  back to
being yesterday. Please listen to me. I am just a mortal man. I am no one
special, but I have had so many things happen to me, but why am I still
alive? Do you want to know why as well? It is because WE are still here.

17's

Marty

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Richard H  wrote:

> Thanks Marty.  Yes hemoglobin below 10. and himeric below 30 is correct..
> That is for time to allow it to start doing its work and then will go
> toward normal.  If I take it  just over then the counts build over the
> normal level.
> Just trying to maintain that level just below normal according to his
> specification.  I do comment to the nurse giving me the results each time.
> I do have my kidneys checked and am on a regular basis seeing him.  I am
> running close to 3 on kidney function.  I am having more heart related
> problems at this point.  Probably headed for a stroke or stints in my neck.
>
> But like is still good when I wake up each morning
>
> 18's
> Richard H.
>
> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 9:21:42 AM UTC-5, wa2yyx wrote:
>>
>> Richard, first thing is when your hemoglobin drops to 10 or below then is
>> the time that procrit generic Epoetin Alfa should start. It should increase
>> your red/hemoglobin count. However it may take a week or two to start
>> showing results. Why don't you mention this to your doctor.
>> Also, have your kidney function checked as well.
>>
>> When my kidneys started to fail I was on Dialsys and found that my
>> hemoglobin level started dropping. Kidney function has a lot to do with
>> that. The reason why is because there is a hormone called Erythropoietin
>> which  is released in response to hypoxia (low levels of oxygen at
>> tissue level) in the renal circulation. It stimulates erythropoiesis
>> (production of red blood cells) in the bone marrow.   I am writing this
>> in bold font to make sure that it can be understood, it is that important!
>>
>> When I was on Diaysis sometimes my HGB would drop to from 7% to 9% and I
>> felt like I coulden't even get out of bed. My wife would help me into her
>> car and help me into the Dialysis center. I lived a horrible life until I
>> had a kidney Transplant.
>>
>> I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the TKI
>> that they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it isn't that at
>> all? That is why they need to consult with their doctors because that is
>> his or her job. And if they feel that there is someone that can help as
>> well then get a second opinion. Don't forget they won't be hurt or offended
>> because they are all getting together to help you.
>>
>> Richard and everyone else, there was a time a very long time ago that my
>> father tought me something. He said that everyone needs to learn something
>> new everyday because it will make you smarter. If you refuse to learn
>> something new everyday then you will revert back to yesterday. And he was
>> right!
>>
>> 18's
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Richard H  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I have been struggling with this for years.  I have had
>>> Transfusions, and now check my CBC every month to see if I need to take
>>> Procreate to bring my blood level back up.  I am currently on 200 mg
>>> Gleevec daily because my CML levels will rise if I don't use it as a
>>> maintenance feature.  I am approaching 16 1/2 years since diagnosis.
>>>
>>> Richard H.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 1:04:15 PM UTC-5, Vivi wrote:

 I suddenly became terribly anemic and my doctor cut my intake of 400mg
 Gleevec daily in half.  

Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sudden problem after twenty years.

t; Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jul 9, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Richard, first thing is when your hemoglobin drops to 10 or below then is
> the time that procrit generic Epoetin Alfa should start. It should increase
> your red/hemoglobin count. However it may take a week or two to start
> showing results. Why don't you mention this to your doctor.
> Also, have your kidney function checked as well.
>
> When my kidneys started to fail I was on Dialsys and found that my
> hemoglobin level started dropping. Kidney function has a lot to do with
> that. The reason why is because there is a hormone called Erythropoietin
> which  is released in response to hypoxia (low levels of oxygen at tissue
> level) in the renal circulation. It stimulates erythropoiesis (production
> of red blood cells) in the bone marrow.   I am writing this in bold font
> to make sure that it can be understood, it is that important!
>
> When I was on Diaysis sometimes my HGB would drop to from 7% to 9% and I
> felt like I coulden't even get out of bed. My wife would help me into her
> car and help me into the Dialysis center. I lived a horrible life until I
> had a kidney Transplant.
>
> I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the TKI
> that they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it isn't that at
> all? That is why they need to consult with their doctors because that is
> his or her job. And if they feel that there is someone that can help as
> well then get a second opinion. Don't forget they won't be hurt or offended
> because they are all getting together to help you.
>
> Richard and everyone else, there was a time a very long time ago that my
> father tought me something. He said that everyone needs to learn something
> new everyday because it will make you smarter. If you refuse to learn
> something new everyday then you will revert back to yesterday. And he was
> right!
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Richard H  wrote:
>
>> Yes, I have been struggling with this for years.  I have had
>> Transfusions, and now check my CBC every month to see if I need to take
>> Procreate to bring my blood level back up.  I am currently on 200 mg
>> Gleevec daily because my CML levels will rise if I don't use it as a
>> maintenance feature.  I am approaching 16 1/2 years since diagnosis.
>>
>> Richard H.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 1:04:15 PM UTC-5, Vivi wrote:
>>>
>>> I suddenly became terribly anemic and my doctor cut my intake of 400mg
>>> Gleevec daily in half.  It took five months but I am no longer anemic and
>>> the CML does not seem to have become visible as yet.  Has anyone else had a
>>> problem like this?
>>>
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Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sudden problem after twenty years.

Richard, first thing is when your hemoglobin drops to 10 or below then is
the time that procrit generic Epoetin Alfa should start. It should increase
your red/hemoglobin count. However it may take a week or two to start
showing results. Why don't you mention this to your doctor.
Also, have your kidney function checked as well.

When my kidneys started to fail I was on Dialsys and found that my
hemoglobin level started dropping. Kidney function has a lot to do with
that. The reason why is because there is a hormone called Erythropoietin
which  is released in response to hypoxia (low levels of oxygen at tissue
level) in the renal circulation. It stimulates erythropoiesis (production
of red blood cells) in the bone marrow.   I am writing this in bold font to
make sure that it can be understood, it is that important!

When I was on Diaysis sometimes my HGB would drop to from 7% to 9% and I
felt like I coulden't even get out of bed. My wife would help me into her
car and help me into the Dialysis center. I lived a horrible life until I
had a kidney Transplant.

I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the TKI
that they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it isn't that at
all? That is why they need to consult with their doctors because that is
his or her job. And if they feel that there is someone that can help as
well then get a second opinion. Don't forget they won't be hurt or offended
because they are all getting together to help you.

Richard and everyone else, there was a time a very long time ago that my
father tought me something. He said that everyone needs to learn something
new everyday because it will make you smarter. If you refuse to learn
something new everyday then you will revert back to yesterday. And he was
right!

18's

Marty

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Richard H  wrote:

> Yes, I have been struggling with this for years.  I have had Transfusions,
> and now check my CBC every month to see if I need to take Procreate to
> bring my blood level back up.  I am currently on 200 mg Gleevec daily
> because my CML levels will rise if I don't use it as a maintenance
> feature.  I am approaching 16 1/2 years since diagnosis.
>
> Richard H.
>
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 1:04:15 PM UTC-5, Vivi wrote:
>>
>> I suddenly became terribly anemic and my doctor cut my intake of 400mg
>> Gleevec daily in half.  It took five months but I am no longer anemic and
>> the CML does not seem to have become visible as yet.  Has anyone else had a
>> problem like this?
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] Great Smokie Mountains

Beth, I'll bet that you counted those first bunch of red roses just to make
sure... Didn't you?

Again,

18's,

Marty

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:

> Beth, you know that i always wish you the very best. So you say that you
> bought some flowers for your pots. So just let me fill em up.
>
> Love you girl. First a dozen red roses to
> start 
>
> Hey are your pots full yet? Okay then let's do it again.
> 
>
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:01 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> So happy for you Jeanie that you are with family in such a beautiful
>> place!!! Soak it inthanks for sharing.
>>
>> Thinking of everyone and sending love.
>>
>> I am on a drug holiday since May 25th. Will do blood work again in a week
>> to make sure I am doing OK. Just not feeling well at all..somethingis up,
>> but don't know what..will see doc next week and get help to assesshope
>> all is well with everyone..
>>
>> did buy flowers to put into pots in my back yardit's my haven in the
>> summertime...so healing to be surrounded by flowers...
>>
>> 18's a love to all,
>>
>> Beth
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
>> To: cmlhope 
>> Sent: Thu, Jun 7, 2018 11:15 am
>> Subject: [CMLHope] Great Smokie Mountains
>>
>>
>> Having a ball.  Shopping Cherokee today. Indians all around.
>> ❤️
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 4:49 PM, Pete Pabon  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> --
>> *From:* 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 4:45:57 PM
>> *To:* cmlhope@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [CMLHope] New Canary hatchings
>>
>> Hi all
>> Actually my mother was called Jean but I never have been. Don’t know why
>> I signed it that way. My mom liked the song Jeanie with the light brown
>> hair and she named me Jeanie. As for my hair it has fallen out a lot but I
>> still have some. Pictures later.
>> Jeanie
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Oh Susan, what are you and "Jean" going to do to me? Or better still what
>> is everyone else going to do to me? Do you think that i should hide some
>> ware?
>>
>> 18's
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:12 PM, 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I noticed that, too! (Jean)
>>
>>
>>
>> Susan F. Zimmerman
>> A merry heart does good like a medicine.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Marty Gartenberg 
>> To: cmlhope 
>> Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 12:08 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] New Canary hatchings
>>
>> Hey have a great time. Well one thing that bothers me. Since did you
>> become a male subject? Now your sporting the name of Jean? Hey I hope that
>> your still growing hair in all of the right places.
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:00 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>> I’m in The great smokie mountains with my 2 daughters. She rented a
>> fantastic cabin with indoor and outdoor fireplaces. We have been having a
>> ball. Headed to Chimney Rocks to picnic today.
>> Tell more when I get home.
>> Love you so very much
>> Jean
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jun

Re: [CMLHope] Great Smokie Mountains

Beth, you know that i always wish you the very best. So you say that you
bought some flowers for your pots. So just let me fill em up.

Love you girl. First a dozen red roses to
start 

Hey are your pots full yet? Okay then let's do it again.



18's,

Marty

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:01 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> So happy for you Jeanie that you are with family in such a beautiful
> place!!! Soak it inthanks for sharing.
>
> Thinking of everyone and sending love.
>
> I am on a drug holiday since May 25th. Will do blood work again in a week
> to make sure I am doing OK. Just not feeling well at all..somethingis up,
> but don't know what..will see doc next week and get help to assesshope
> all is well with everyone..
>
> did buy flowers to put into pots in my back yardit's my haven in the
> summertime...so healing to be surrounded by flowers...
>
> 18's a love to all,
>
> Beth
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Thu, Jun 7, 2018 11:15 am
> Subject: [CMLHope] Great Smokie Mountains
>
>
> Having a ball.  Shopping Cherokee today. Indians all around.
> ❤️
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jun 6, 2018, at 4:49 PM, Pete Pabon  wrote:
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> --
> *From:* 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 4:45:57 PM
> *To:* cmlhope@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [CMLHope] New Canary hatchings
>
> Hi all
> Actually my mother was called Jean but I never have been. Don’t know why I
> signed it that way. My mom liked the song Jeanie with the light brown hair
> and she named me Jeanie. As for my hair it has fallen out a lot but I still
> have some. Pictures later.
> Jeanie
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jun 6, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Oh Susan, what are you and "Jean" going to do to me? Or better still what
> is everyone else going to do to me? Do you think that i should hide some
> ware?
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:12 PM, 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I noticed that, too! (Jean)
>
>
>
> Susan F. Zimmerman
> A merry heart does good like a medicine.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marty Gartenberg 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 12:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] New Canary hatchings
>
> Hey have a great time. Well one thing that bothers me. Since did you
> become a male subject? Now your sporting the name of Jean? Hey I hope that
> your still growing hair in all of the right places.
>
> Marty
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:00 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all
> I’m in The great smokie mountains with my 2 daughters. She rented a
> fantastic cabin with indoor and outdoor fireplaces. We have been having a
> ball. Headed to Chimney Rocks to picnic today.
> Tell more when I get home.
> Love you so very much
> Jean
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jun 3, 2018, at 4:28 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
>
> Marty,
> I love canaries.  But I have to say that your new babies are ugly.  Sorry
> about that harsh statement, but all baby birds are ugly.  I would like to
> see another picture when they have feathers.  Through my life I have had
> about 5 canaries but they always got sick and died.  I think that is a
> wonderful hobby to raise birds (with the exception of having to see them as
> babies without feathers).  I’m sure they give you many hours of
> entertainment.  How many adult canaries do you have?  Do you have other
> birds as well?
> When my Mom was in the nursing home they had a large bird cage and we
> would sit and watch them for long periods of time.
> Please know that I am

Re: [CMLHope] New Canary hatchings

Oh Susan, what are you and "Jean" going to do to me? Or better still what
is everyone else going to do to me? Do you think that i should hide some
ware?

18's

Marty

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:12 PM, 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I noticed that, too! (Jean)
>
>
>
> Susan F. Zimmerman
> A merry heart does good like a medicine.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marty Gartenberg 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 12:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] New Canary hatchings
>
> Hey have a great time. Well one thing that bothers me. Since did you
> become a male subject? Now your sporting the name of Jean? Hey I hope that
> your still growing hair in all of the right places.
>
> Marty
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:00 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all
> I’m in The great smokie mountains with my 2 daughters. She rented a
> fantastic cabin with indoor and outdoor fireplaces. We have been having a
> ball. Headed to Chimney Rocks to picnic today.
> Tell more when I get home.
> Love you so very much
> Jean
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jun 3, 2018, at 4:28 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
>
> Marty,
> I love canaries.  But I have to say that your new babies are ugly.  Sorry
> about that harsh statement, but all baby birds are ugly.  I would like to
> see another picture when they have feathers.  Through my life I have had
> about 5 canaries but they always got sick and died.  I think that is a
> wonderful hobby to raise birds (with the exception of having to see them as
> babies without feathers).  I’m sure they give you many hours of
> entertainment.  How many adult canaries do you have?  Do you have other
> birds as well?
> When my Mom was in the nursing home they had a large bird cage and we
> would sit and watch them for long periods of time.
> Please know that I am kidding about your ugly babies.  Don’t hold that
> against me.  They will be adorable in a short time.
>
> Hope everyone is doing well and staying cool.  Here in the midwest we have
> had the coolest April on record…..and the HOTTEST May on record.  We missed
> spring it seems.
>
>   Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Jun 2, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Here are two new pictures of my newest baby canary chicks.
> There are two nests and the second has four eggs but so far they haven't
> hatched as yet.
>
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Re: [CMLHope] New Canary hatchings

Hey have a great time. Well one thing that bothers me. Since did you become
a male subject? Now your sporting the name of Jean? Hey I hope that your
still growing hair in all of the right places.

Marty

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:00 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi all
> I’m in The great smokie mountains with my 2 daughters. She rented a
> fantastic cabin with indoor and outdoor fireplaces. We have been having a
> ball. Headed to Chimney Rocks to picnic today.
> Tell more when I get home.
> Love you so very much
> Jean
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jun 3, 2018, at 4:28 PM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
>
> Marty,
> I love canaries.  But I have to say that your new babies are ugly.  Sorry
> about that harsh statement, but all baby birds are ugly.  I would like to
> see another picture when they have feathers.  Through my life I have had
> about 5 canaries but they always got sick and died.  I think that is a
> wonderful hobby to raise birds (with the exception of having to see them as
> babies without feathers).  I’m sure they give you many hours of
> entertainment.  How many adult canaries do you have?  Do you have other
> birds as well?
> When my Mom was in the nursing home they had a large bird cage and we
> would sit and watch them for long periods of time.
> Please know that I am kidding about your ugly babies.  Don’t hold that
> against me.  They will be adorable in a short time.
>
> Hope everyone is doing well and staying cool.  Here in the midwest we have
> had the coolest April on record…..and the HOTTEST May on record.  We missed
> spring it seems.
>
>   Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Jun 2, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Here are two new pictures of my newest baby canary chicks.
> There are two nests and the second has four eggs but so far they haven't
> hatched as yet.
>
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Re: [CMLHope] My thought of the day

Hi Jeanie,

So let me tell you a very inspiring story about saving someones life. First
there was a time that Shelly and i went on a cruise. It was to the
Mediterranean and one of the stops we made to Israel. I always wanted to go
there because of several things but that is a whole other story for another
time.

I went to Jerusalem to find the site that showed the foundations of three
homes sites right next to eachother. One was the home that Jesus (Yeshua)
lived in. He never knew or was called Jesus but only Yeshua. The next site
was Peters foundation and following that was a profit by the name of
Hillel. These foundations were constructed of Balsamic blocks similar to
what is commonly used in today's time resembling cinder or cement blocks
but they were usually found in the the sea by the shore line and they were
usually black in color.

But that's not what is in my concentration right now, just a history lesson
i learned a long time ago. Anyway on this particular balsamic block
foundation there was a bronze plack with an inscription on it. It said...
that if i were to survive i would find it in my will to always try to help
someone that may have been going through what i will be going through right
now."That if one whether it be man or woman helps to try to save someones
life it is as he or she has saved the entire world"

That a very powerful statement if you think about it Years later when i
was through with my bone marrow transplant I decided to keep my promise
that I made to GOD just before i was to receive my first dose of total body
radiation. I got down on my knees, clasped my hands in front of me and
recited *my *prayer to GOD and made a promise to HIM. I am not a hero or
any kind or a super hero but i am like what some people would say about Pop
Eye the sailor man, that always ate spinach... I am what I am. Who knows,
but i like spinach. In the past 30 years i have kept my promise many times.
You already know most of what i went through, so why am i still here today?
Do you? And Jeanie how about you? Do you know?

What i do know is what Millie and Mommy Lottie and Zavie did for all of us.
We all seem to be a very, very close group of people.

Jeanie, here is my personal e-mail address, if you would like to e-mail
me?
 wa2...@gmail.com

18's,

Marty

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:56 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Marty and all.
> Sometimes when I read your post I cannot believe that they are written by
> someone who has been through all you have.
> I never thought I would make it through cml because Gleevec through every
> side effect it had in me and then some. I started a diary to God and wrote
> in it daily. I hadn’t found a good list at that time and it seemed the list
> I was in was always telling me I needed aspecialist and downing the onc I
> had and they could have been right but it was not uplifting to me.  I
> finally left the list.
> Then I found this one through Millie. Do you remember Millie?  She wrote
> me daily uplifting post telling me about her life in PA and since I’m from
> FL I enjoyed them so much. She was so active and if she got to feeling too
> bad she would tell me would take care of it in a few minutes. She was on
> all kinds of pain pills and had to take them daily. She used her hands
> doing handiwork and then her muscles in her arms started to wear down. She
> worked so hard with a therapist even though she was hurting so bad. Even
> then she wrote her uplifting post.
> As you all know I have been in blast 3 times having to change tki’s but
> think I’ve finally found the one that did the job however with leukemia you
> never know when it will raise its ugly head. Most of you here know what I
> am talking about
> Anyway Marty and all keep writing. You never know when that one post will
> be the one that saves someone’s life.
> Love ya
> 
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Mar 17, 2018, at 8:31 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Holly,
>
> No, your not wearied but i am. Don't you think that after i wrote all of
> the answers on that form that i am not? But that is me and this is how i
> live my life.
>
> Well then again come to think of it, maybe you are also wearied because
> you traded off your depression for CML but the end result is that your
> still here with us. Who knows maybe we are all wearied in are own ways?
>
> It's our attitudes that counts, don't you think?
>
> 18's, dear Holly.
>
> Marty
>
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:49 PM, 'Holly' via CMLHope <
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Re: [CMLHope] Digest for cmlhope@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

Good morning Jeanie,

Don't you just love those Senior Moments? I can't remember what i just ate
for breakfast???

But what i usually do remember is...

18's,

Marty 

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:19 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sorry I resent that picture. Senior moment. Love you so very much.
> Jean
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On May 7, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Victoria Reiter <vkrei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Been a long time.  Trust  you are well and holding steady.
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 5:15 AM, <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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Re: [CMLHope]stroke

Now that is a very good idea from everyone hearing from one and other. It
just keeps us closer to eachother.

Oh yes i do remember Millie as well as Lottie (Mommy Lottie) as i used to
call her. She was always willing to help everyone at any time. And what
about Zavie's Skype calls at least once a week, and sometimes more often.
These were some very special kinds of people who i will never forget.

Also Beth, how are you doing? You always have something good to say to all
of us. Remember most of you people are the backbone of this site, so let's
all get together every once in a while because it would be good to hear
from you.

As i always end

18's,

Marty

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:43 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Marty and all
> So good to hear from you but sorry
> To hear about your cancer on nose
>
> I think I told you about my sister having a small mole on her ankle that
> turned out to be cancer she had to have skin grafted on and it turned out
> to be a weekly visit to Moffitt.
> Yes sometimes we have to take something just to get some rest.
> Your courage inspires me to keep going. Remember Millie? No matter what
> she could always make me smile. How brave she was at the end.
> How are you Beth and all. Let’s hear from everyone.
> ❤️
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On May 16, 2018, at 9:25 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jeanie, I almost forgot something. When you read Pslam 1188. Take a close
> look at the numbers, what are the two numbers in the center? 18, and this
> is what i learned many years ago. That is because i always use them every
> time i end any message that i send out. I do most things for a reason.
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:23 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You know what Jeanie i also love you! and just about everyone here. How's
>> that.
>>
>> I just don't know why some people and institutions have so many rules
>> like not accepting you for having pain. I will now go out of my "polite
>> mode" and call them AZZ Wipes, because let it happen to them and they
>> wouldn't be as nice as i am.
>>
>> Okay back into my polite mode. Jeanie, i have had some very bad times
>> with pain especially when i had to live in that plastic bubble and had the 
>> *mucocytes
>> in my entire digestive tract. *
>> *From my lips to my rectum. It was by far the worst pain that i have ever
>> experienced in my life. *
>>
>> *It got so bad that i would say to myself that i just wanted to die and
>> they put me on a Morphine drip with a button in the inside of that bubble.
>> I tried it and no relief so i kept pushing the button and it did no good
>> until i fell asleep. Once i got up the pain didn't leave so eventually i
>> became addicted to that Morphine and would start hallucinating and it kept
>> on going until i was severely addicted. For the next few months i had to
>> become UN addicted and that was the terrible part but i did it.*
>>
>> *I had to live 24-7 with that pain. But there were "good times coming up"
>> One day my transplant coordinator first gowned up and put on booties,
>> serial surgical mask,  serial gown two sets of serial surgical gloves and
>> before she came in she turned on the *
>> *Laminar air flow chamber blower to high and when she got inside she made
>> sure that i was always up wind of her so no bacteria would be transferred
>> to me. That was how only certain people could enter that chamber. She sat
>> down downwind of me and motioned that she wanted me to hear what she was
>> going to tell me.*
>>  however she couldn't touch me or any part of me and she whispered three
>> words to me. "It's only Temporary"  and i knew exactly what she said. Then
>> she immediately left the chamber.
>>
>> *Jeanie do you know why i am telling you this? Well that was one of the
>> reasons that i became to know that my mind does control my body. Yes the
>> pain was still there but i put it in the back of my mind. It took about a
>> week to finally get my white cell count to approach that magic number to
>> get to 1,000 and shortly when i was put on a solid food diet, i was finally
>> able to get out of there after seven awful months. Now you know why! And
>> that was the time that i garbed that clock with that second hand that
>> always to

Re: [CMLHope]stroke

Jeanie, I almost forgot something. When you read Pslam 1188. Take a close
look at the numbers, what are the two numbers in the center? 18, and this
is what i learned many years ago. That is because i always use them every
time i end any message that i send out. I do most things for a reason.

18's

Marty

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:23 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You know what Jeanie i also love you! and just about everyone here. How's
> that.
>
> I just don't know why some people and institutions have so many rules like
> not accepting you for having pain. I will now go out of my "polite mode"
> and call them AZZ Wipes, because let it happen to them and they wouldn't be
> as nice as i am.
>
> Okay back into my polite mode. Jeanie, i have had some very bad times with
> pain especially when i had to live in that plastic bubble and had the 
> *mucocytes
> in my entire digestive tract. *
> *From my lips to my rectum. It was by far the worst pain that i have ever
> experienced in my life. *
>
> *It got so bad that i would say to myself that i just wanted to die and
> they put me on a Morphine drip with a button in the inside of that bubble.
> I tried it and no relief so i kept pushing the button and it did no good
> until i fell asleep. Once i got up the pain didn't leave so eventually i
> became addicted to that Morphine and would start hallucinating and it kept
> on going until i was severely addicted. For the next few months i had to
> become UN addicted and that was the terrible part but i did it.*
>
> *I had to live 24-7 with that pain. But there were "good times coming up"
> One day my transplant coordinator first gowned up and put on booties,
> serial surgical mask,  serial gown two sets of serial surgical gloves and
> before she came in she turned on the *
> *Laminar air flow chamber blower to high and when she got inside she made
> sure that i was always up wind of her so no bacteria would be transferred
> to me. That was how only certain people could enter that chamber. She sat
> down downwind of me and motioned that she wanted me to hear what she was
> going to tell me.*
>  however she couldn't touch me or any part of me and she whispered three
> words to me. "It's only Temporary"  and i knew exactly what she said. Then
> she immediately left the chamber.
>
> *Jeanie do you know why i am telling you this? Well that was one of the
> reasons that i became to know that my mind does control my body. Yes the
> pain was still there but i put it in the back of my mind. It took about a
> week to finally get my white cell count to approach that magic number to
> get to 1,000 and shortly when i was put on a solid food diet, i was finally
> able to get out of there after seven awful months. Now you know why! And
> that was the time that i garbed that clock with that second hand that
> always tormented me off the plastic wall and smashed it on the floor. I
> finally got even!!! *
>
> *Now on today. I had an operation yesterday using Mohs surgery on the
> bridge of my nose to get rid of a Basil Cell Carcinoma and that came out
> with little problems, so i had to go back to have the sutures put in and
> about two hours later came the pain after the Anastasia wore off, and the
> pain started, and it hurts now so i did what i did then and had my mind
> sort of control my body, but i think tonight i will take a pain reliving
> pill so that i can get some sleep tonight. I am simply getting too old for
> this.  *
>
> *Listen i can't make up these stories because they are all true.  *
>
> *Now, i really liked your story about how everyone in your family kissed
> eachother when they said hello and good by. that is very inspirational to
> me, but since i am immuno compromised all that i can do is never shake
> hands but bump fists together and that seems to do the trick.*
>
> *Now i would like to send you a very beautiful video called The Center of
> the Bible. I think that i may have sent it before but even so just sit back
> and enjoy it. The music and video are just terrific.   *
>
> *18's,*
>
> *Marty*
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:43 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marty
>> First I want to tell you that I love you because you
>> Lift my heart as do all of you on this list.
>> Yes this was my fourth tki and probably
>> My last chance as far as tki’s are
>> Concerned.   The Sprycel I had been
>> On for four years was great as long
>> As it lasted.
>> Yes my onc told me to go right
>> To the eye dr bit other than needing
>> Far vision glasses they seem to
>> Be okay.  Moffitt is great but they
>> Won’t take care of your

Re: [CMLHope]stroke

Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
12:55 PM (9 minutes ago)
to cmlhope
Hi Jeanie, or should i say Grandma?

I am quite filmier with  Iclusig or ponatinib  because i always research
anything to do with them or CML. And yes there are a lot of bad things that
could happen when taking it. However, if it does work for you or anyone
else then you should consider it a life saving therapy because your still
alive, and that is called 18's which i always end anything which i post
because that is the way i feel about all of you. I remember more then
thirty years ago that's three decades ago, it was done for me and i now do
it for everyone.

Also you should know that it is not recommended for newly diagnosed
patients first beginning therapy. One must get their eyes checked for what
could be problems later.

It is very simple to go to an ophthalmologist and have him or her check it
out... Just do it!

Remember no one is immune to death but it is yourself that helps to
preserve yourself.
With all that i have been through and most of you already know what i am
talking about, then all you can do is to go on and try to preserve yourself
as best as you can, and from what i am seeing then you are! And part of
that is to enjoy your life.

Two of my favorite sayings are what Forrest Gump said in the movie... "Life
is just like a box of Chocolates, you never know what you get" As i read
that to me it meant that you don't know just what you got but since his
mother said that then since it came out a box of Chocolates then how could
any of them be bad?

And the other saying was.. "That's enough about that"


Remember> 18's,

Marty


On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeanie, or should i say Grandma?
>
> I am quite filmier with  Iclusig or ponatinib  because i always research
> anything to do with them or CML. And yes there are a lot of bad things that
> could happen when taking it. However, if it does work for you or anyone
> else then you should consider it a life saving therapy because your still
> alive, and that is called 18's which i always end anything which i post
> because that is the way i feel about all of you. I remember more then
> thirty years ago that's three decades ago, it was done for me and i now do
> it for everyone.
>
> Also you should know that it is not recommended for newly diagnosed
> patients first beginning therapy. One must get their eyes checked for what
> could be problems later.
>
> It is very simple to go to an ophthalmologist and have him or her check
> it out... Just do it!
>
> Remember no one is immune to death but it is yourself that helps to
> preserve yourself.
> With all that i have been through and most of you already know what i am
> talking about, then all you can do is to go on and try to preserve yourself
> as best as you can, and from what i am seeing then you are! And part of
> that is to enjoy your life.
>
> Two of my favorite sayings are what Forrest Gump said in the movie...
> "Life is just like a box of Chocolates, you never know what you get" As i
> read that to me it meant that you don't know just what you got but since
> his mother said that then since it came out a box of Chocolates then how
> could any of them be bad?
>
> And the other saying was.. "That's enough about that"
>
>
> Remember> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 11:12 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marty and all
>> I am so glad you told me about what to expect from a stroke. As they run
>> in our family I will know what to expect.
>> My chemo was taken off the market at first because of heart attacks and
>> blood clots. They then decide it would do more good than bad so they put it
>> back on. I know it had me in remission in three months.
>> Look up Ponatinib and you will see what I mean.
>> Happy Mother’s Day to all the mothers on this group. I started my family
>> when I was 18 and had 5 babies in 10 years. Those were the busiest years of
>> my life and  I enjoyed every minute of them.
>> My youngest daughter and her daughter are picking me up for lunch.
>> Have a great day everyone.
>> ❤️
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On May 11, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jeanie,
>>
>> Sorry to hear about your family having these such problems. If I could
>

Re: [CMLHope]stroke

Hi Jeanie, or should i say Grandma?

I am quite filmier with  Iclusig or ponatinib  because i always research
anything to do with them or CML. And yes there are a lot of bad things that
could happen when taking it. However, if it does work for you or anyone
else then you should consider it a life saving therapy because your still
alive, and that is called 18's which i always end anything which i post
because that is the way i feel about all of you. I remember more then
thirty years ago that's three decades ago, it was done for me and i now do
it for everyone.

Also you should know that it is not recommended for newly diagnosed
patients first beginning therapy. One must get their eyes checked for what
could be problems later.

It is very simple to go to an ophthalmologist and have him or her check it
out... Just do it!

Remember no one is immune to death but it is yourself that helps to
preserve yourself.
With all that i have been through and most of you already know what i am
talking about, then all you can do is to go on and try to preserve yourself
as best as you can, and from what i am seeing then you are! And part of
that is to enjoy your life.

Two of my favorite sayings are what Forrest Gump said in the movie... "Life
is just like a box of Chocolates, you never know what you get" As i read
that to me it meant that you don't know just what you got but since his
mother said that then since it came out a box of Chocolates then how could
any of them be bad?

And the other saying was.. "That's enough about that"


Remember> 18's,

Marty


On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 11:12 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Marty and all
> I am so glad you told me about what to expect from a stroke. As they run
> in our family I will know what to expect.
> My chemo was taken off the market at first because of heart attacks and
> blood clots. They then decide it would do more good than bad so they put it
> back on. I know it had me in remission in three months.
> Look up Ponatinib and you will see what I mean.
> Happy Mother’s Day to all the mothers on this group. I started my family
> when I was 18 and had 5 babies in 10 years. Those were the busiest years of
> my life and  I enjoyed every minute of them.
> My youngest daughter and her daughter are picking me up for lunch.
> Have a great day everyone.
> ❤️
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On May 11, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jeanie,
>
> Sorry to hear about your family having these such problems. If I could
> kick that stroke man in where the sun don't shine i am sure that his butt
> will never be the same.
>
> It all comes down to the doctor/s that take care of you. You may find that
> the majority of them are good caring people with your best intentions in
> mind then there are some that don't really care about you or me and i
> happen to know thank GOD only a very few of them.
>
> While we were on our cruise and got back the buzz in the neighborhood was
> that one of my neighbors went in for some back surgery and it was
> successful for a few days and then died from a surgical sponge that was
> left inside of her.
>
> You know what? the same thing also happened to me when I had what is
> called a TURP procedure but it wasn't a sponge but one of the stents that
> was left in me and blocked the output of my prostate causing the worst pain
> that i had in a long time. I had to be rushed to my local hospital and they
> had to remove that stent. Oh yes i almost forgot that the "doctor" had left
> on vacation and no one was covering for him.
>
> Now there are some of the people of today that are very incapable of even
> understanding what the meaning of the Hippocratic oath actually means.
>
> Don't get me wrong most of these doctors actually helped to save my life,
> many times. And this is what i dedicate to them.
>
> Now there must have been a very good reason why someone would drill holes
> into someones skull? Did you ever find out why he did that? It sounds on
> the surface like Jeffrey Dahmer. I can not understand why surgical things
> are left behind because every shred of anything is always counted and
> counted again.
>
> I can tell you for a fact that there are so many good doctors in this
> world, but you have to find them and that's what makes a very big
> difference. One thing more: If it were not for the nurses that always took
> such good care of me then i wouldn't be alive today.
>
> I give credit to all of the people

Re: [CMLHope]stroke

Jeanie,

Sorry to hear about your family having these such problems. If I could kick
that stroke man in where the sun don't shine i am sure that his butt will
never be the same.

It all comes down to the doctor/s that take care of you. You may find that
the majority of them are good caring people with your best intentions in
mind then there are some that don't really care about you or me and i
happen to know thank GOD only a very few of them.

While we were on our cruise and got back the buzz in the neighborhood was
that one of my neighbors went in for some back surgery and it was
successful for a few days and then died from a surgical sponge that was
left inside of her.

You know what? the same thing also happened to me when I had what is called
a TURP procedure but it wasn't a sponge but one of the stents that was left
in me and blocked the output of my prostate causing the worst pain that i
had in a long time. I had to be rushed to my local hospital and they had to
remove that stent. Oh yes i almost forgot that the "doctor" had left on
vacation and no one was covering for him.

Now there are some of the people of today that are very incapable of even
understanding what the meaning of the Hippocratic oath actually means.

Don't get me wrong most of these doctors actually helped to save my life,
many times. And this is what i dedicate to them.

Now there must have been a very good reason why someone would drill holes
into someones skull? Did you ever find out why he did that? It sounds on
the surface like Jeffrey Dahmer. I can not understand why surgical things
are left behind because every shred of anything is always counted and
counted again.

I can tell you for a fact that there are so many good doctors in this
world, but you have to find them and that's what makes a very big
difference. One thing more: If it were not for the nurses that always took
such good care of me then i wouldn't be alive today.

I give credit to all of the people that are so dedicated to all of us,
but... Well in my case, it's about about 98.6% My temperature, and the rest
of the 1.4% they can go to where the sun don't shine (one of my favorite
sayings and for good reason

18's,

Marty

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 9:40 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Marty and all
> That is so interesting about your stroke. My mother had the same thing in
> her late 70s. She lived alone but her son lived up the street and somehow
> she managed to call him. His wife answered and told her hubby it was a
> prank call because my mother was just jabbering in the phone. He looked at
> her and said that’s mom.  They called 911 and soon she was in the hospital.
> By the time I got there I learned the only thing she could do was sign her
> name.  She had to relearn everything. I took her to speech class every week
> and she had a tablet she was learning to write again.  It took her about a
> year of therapy.  My grandmother also had a stroke the same way. So far my
> sister and I have been lucky. My older sister died from the stroke she had
> and I always thought the doctor didn’t treat her right. They drilled s hole
> in her head and I think they should have just let the brain heal.
> Yes Marty. Learning and doing something daily will help keep our brain
> going. But also if you are tired rest
> Beth so sorry about your botched surgery. That is why I have refused to go
> under the knife for my pain. I may have to eventually but right now pills
> and faith are keeping me going.
> You guys are so uplifting and I look forward to your post.
> Marty I get s little sad when I hear about you and Shelly and how you help
> each other. I lost my hubby 20 years ago due to diabetes and heart failure.
> I was his caregiver and we had been childhood sweethearts.It was hard
> to let go.
> More later——
> Love
> Jean
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On May 10, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Beth,
>
> Believe me once you put your mind to it there isn't anything that you
> can't do. All that you have to do is to try it. Yes at first you may fail
> but once you get it into your head you will thieve.
> It is a matter of will.
> A story for you: Several years ago right after my kidney transplant my
> wife and i went furniture shopping when i suddenly felt dizzy and clasped
> to the floor, i tried to get up but i just managed to crawl on the floor.
> Shelly was really trying to help me to a seat and the manager came over and
> told us that he just called 911. Within less then ten minutes i was in an

Re: [CMLHope] Beth

Hi Beth,

Believe me once you put your mind to it there isn't anything that you can't
do. All that you have to do is to try it. Yes at first you may fail but
once you get it into your head you will thieve.
It is a matter of will.
A story for you: Several years ago right after my kidney transplant my wife
and i went furniture shopping when i suddenly felt dizzy and clasped to the
floor, i tried to get up but i just managed to crawl on the floor. Shelly
was really trying to help me to a seat and the manager came over and told
us that he just called 911. Within less then ten minutes i was in an
ambulance on my way to the hospital. When one of the paramedics asked me
how i was feeling i didn't know what he was saying, it was like someone was
mumbling to me. Once they got me to the hospital they seemed to be moving
there mouths but all that i heard were these funny sounds coming out of
their mouths. When i came out of my coma i couldn't understand English. In
my mind i was trying to ask for a glass of water but didn't know how to say
it

It was very frustrating and i knew in my mind that i could talk but not
anything with English but i did remember that i was still able to speak and
understand five different foreign languages and the Morse Code because ever
since i was a young man i was a ham radio operator, but how could i try to
convey it to anyone. I was in bed and badly needed some water. So i started
yelling in different languages and tapping on the table with my fingers in
Morse Code but only my right hand would work, until one of the nurses
understood what i was asking for in Hungarian one of the languages that my
parents taught me when i was a young child. From that day on while i was
still in the hospital there was always a pitcher of cold water on my table.

It took me over a year to teach myself how to learn English again, and i
did it all by myself. An usual thing happened to me when i went to see my
ophthalmologist because he was checking for any symptom that the stroke may
have caused to my eyes, but he found nothing thank GOD. I then mentioned to
him what had happened to me when i could not speak
English This is what he told me. He has another patient that also had a
similar stroke in the same region of the brain that i had mine in. He then
tells me that this man suddenly started speaking words with a heavy French
accent but not French but English with a heavy French accent. This lasted
for about almost two years and he is back to normal. Amazing what can
happen.

So this is another example of what your mind can do. All you have to do it
to try and help yourself.

To my understanding the human brain uses about 10% of it's capacity, more
or less. If you know to the contrary please let me know.

18's,

Marty

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:59 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Just beautiful Marty!!! I love the stained glass...
>
> thanks for sharing!!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
> To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 9, 2018 8:40 am
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Beth
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Beth, Jeanie your learning from eachother and i am also learning from the
> both of you as you are learning from me. This is what it is. I always say
> that life is a learning process and well, it is. You must learn something
> new every day of your life.
>
> Now i would like to send you some pictures that i took of some of my
> projects that me and my wife did together mostly when i wasn't feeling very
> well, but i still did it. Shelly did the cutting for the most part and i
> did the grinding and fitting and the soldering, sometimes switching off but
> we did it together. And it made both of us feel that much better.
>
> Everything that you may see in these three pictures are things that we
> personally accomplished by ourselves including the crown moldings as well
> as the moldings on the ceiling. Both of us never said that maybe  we should
> stop, but sat down and rested for a while and had lunch or watched TV and
> then got back to "business". Sure it sometimes taxed me out but i still
> continued on for weeks at a time or even months.
>
> There is a point to all of this, just get your priorities together and
> there is nothing that you can't accomplish.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 6:40 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Beth and all
> I know exactly what you mean Beth.  Sometimes I just want to go back to
> bed and do nothing.
> I have found however if you make a plan of what you want to accomplish
> that day it helps a lot. Even write it down.  Start on it even if you don’t
> feel like finishing it.
> One time I 

Re: [CMLHope] Digest for cmlhope@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

Hi Victoria,

Nice to be hearing from you. First, how are you doing? I hope that you are
well.
As for me well i just go on and on just like that pink energizer bunny. But
my feet aren't as large as his (or could be hers) you never know who is who
and what is what. But what i do know is i am me and Shelly is her and you
are you... If that makes any sense.

We just cam back from a cruise and had a wonderful time but i came back
with a terrible cold and that is a no no for me because i have a difficult
time dealing with my immune system because of all the immune suppressible
medication. But so far so good. Please don't be a stranger.

Thanks for ringing my bell.

18's,

Marty

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Victoria Reiter <vkrei...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Been a long time.  Trust  you are well and holding steady.
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 5:15 AM, <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>> Just sit back and relax when your day isn't what it should be. It is
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>>
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Re: [CMLHope] Jeanie’s garden

How could i forget Beth... Just picked up your email

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 7:21 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeanie, Richard and all of you in general, Yes to enjoy yourself is the
> right thing to do. I can remember when i was very ill and then came more,
> much more so i just changed my way of trying to stop worrying to the point
> that if i kept this up then i would not recover. It is called your mind
> controls your body, but i also know that some might try to disagree with me
> but this is how i choose to live my life.
>
> Oh yes Richard, so your son chose to go on and extend cruise for 10
> months. Well since i just came back from a 10 day cruse and i hate to now
> look at the scale i can just be imaging that a ten month cruise may have a
> weight gain of at least 10 pounds per month thus bring his of for that
> matter my weight gain to 10 pounds per month bringing it to 10 pounds X 10
> months equals one hundred extra pounds... Nope not for me!  Well wait a
> minute, a bathroom scale break, be back in a minute
>  60 seconds. Well upon my return from the bathroom scale break i found that
> my calculations were exactly right on the money, i actually gained 10.4
> pounds or  4.681 Liters.
>
> Oh well on to a diet for me.. Hey i'll bet that you counted all of those
> dots (seconds) Tell me the truth.
>
> As an example, look at Jeanie's garden. It seems like a simple thing to
> perceive but not for her as well as me and Richard and probably many
> others.
>
> I also have my "little garden" and it usually puts me to rest and enjoy
> them. My beautiful Canaries, and of course my Dog Shylow. If any of you
> have or had pets then you must already know how you must feel when you get
> to listen to birds singing or when you come in to your house you are
> immediately rushed over to from your dog. That always puts me into a great
> feeling.
>
> Just try and do something to make you happy. Go out and enjoy what is
> before you take a walk and look around you and enjoy the wind in your hair
> the son in your face the smell in the air... Oh i almost forgot that i used
> to live in Staten Island not to far from the Fresh-Kills landfill. So let's
> just scratch that off for the time being.
>
> Just remember to do things that will keep you and your mind happy and
> healthy.
>
> Hey Jeanie, love your garden... More pictures please.
>
> Everyone have a good day.
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:49 PM, Richard H <rbhuffm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wonder way to enjoy yourself.  I'm glad you were able to enjoy it.  My
>> little brother took a cruise around the world that lasted 10 months. Glad
>> you are home.
>>
>> Richard H..
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 1, 2018 at 3:05:51 PM UTC-5, wa2yyx wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jeanie, I just love your garden! Oh yes i do! Just the thing to pick
>>> you up.
>>>
>>> I haven't been on for a while. Shelly and I just came back from a ten
>>> day cruise to the Panama Canal, Panama itself, Costa Rica, Lomol, Jamaica,
>>> Grand Cayman, South America and more. Since i was ill for a long time we
>>> had to stop cruising for several years. Now since i am starting to feel
>>> better we promised ourselves to just go on and try to enjoy ourselves.
>>>
>>> We had a wonderful time but are real tired out now, and have to rest,
>>> and what better way is to just sit back and look at your garden. How's
>>> that...
>>>
>>> 18's,
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 5:59 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>>> cml...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Garden is my quite place
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Motto:
>>>> Faith and Pills
>>>> With Love
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>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>>>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>>>> Moffitt Cancer  center
>>>>
>>>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>>>
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[CMLHope]

 I know that some were not able to open it due to some technical problems
but here is something else. It is called the magical marble music machine.
It has 2,000  marbles in it, and it is all hand made. Enjoy this it is very
unusual. But so am i.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q

Marty

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Re: [CMLHope] My thought of the day

Hi Holly,

No, your not wearied but i am. Don't you think that after i wrote all of
the answers on that form that i am not? But that is me and this is how i
live my life.

Well then again come to think of it, maybe you are also wearied because you
traded off your depression for CML but the end result is that your still
here with us. Who knows maybe we are all wearied in are own ways?

It's our attitudes that counts, don't you think?

18's, dear Holly.

Marty

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:49 PM, 'Holly' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Marty,
> Great post from you!  I felt like I suffered from depression in my
> 20’s(even was prescribed Prozac). I was diagnosed with CML at 36 and the
> depression was gone. Everyday is a gift and at 54 I’m quitting my meds.
> People think I’m weird because Cancer “cured” my depression but it put my
> life into perspective.
> Thanks,
> Holly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Before i start off with this. I went to my internist yesterday and while i
> was sitting in the waiting room with my wife sitting beside me for my
> regular two month check up, the receptionist calls me over to the window
> and asks me to fill out a form. She says that it will be done once a year
> as is the general practice of all the patients in his practice starting
> from now on.
>
> Okay i took the form to be filled out and started reading it. There was a
> list of eight things that needed to be checked off with either a yes or no.
> As i continued to read it I noticed that all of these questions stated that
> i feel like i was depressed in the last three months that i should check
> off the yes. Another question was have i ever felt worthless in the last
> three months, and still another asked me if i have ever felt like the world
> is closing me in, and so forth for the remaining questions.
>
> You know what? I just couldn't resist as my wife looked on... I actually
> crossed out both yes and no. At the end of this "quiz" i wrote a note on
> the bottom of this form. In bold letters it said "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?" and
> signed it on the bottom even though that form had asked me to print and
> sign that form on the top portion which i did as well. As i went to the
> counter and handed it in the receptionist closed the window behind me and
> about ten seconds later i heard uncontrollable laughter from behind the
> window.
>
> On my way out i had to check out and as i passed by them i told them that
> the only time that i *may *have been depressed is when i broke my neck
> but since i was in a coma i wouldn't know if i was depressed or not until i
> woke up more then a week later. And i further mentioned, does this count
> because this was more then three months but rather about three years ago
> ago and i asked all of them again "does this count"?
>
> Then remained absolutely motionless and didn't say a word...
>
> So anyway i thought about it and decided to write my Thought of the day.
> You must realize that when you smile the world smiles with you and for
> those that do not smile well they should fill out out the form that the
> receptionist gave me... Comes next year do you think that they will
> remember me? You bet they will.
>
> Thought of the day. I want to express my idea on perspective. Everyday
> we make decisions, in our thoughts with our actions and the way we handle
> circumstances in our everyday interaction with people we meet. Remember
> this , EVERYONE IS UNIQUE IN THEIR OWN WAY.The way we look, talk,
> dress, our beliefs, how we treat others, family, friends and even total
> strangers. Some people we meet are battling thoughts in their heads,
> sickness, stress, anger, anxiety, fear, depression, regret, remorse,
> addiction, hopelessness.
>
> The list can go on and on. Before you judge the people in your life, take
> a moment and try to put yourself into their perspective. The world is full
> of good and bad people, some think the world owes them, they are angry,
> bitter and downright mean and dis-respectful. Don't let these people bring
> you down, just smile and keep moving on.
>
> Some people are just having a bad day, a simple smile or kind gesture can
> go a long way to changing an attitude. Today be the good person, don't let
> the daily struggles in life get the best of you. Be strong, be confident
> and live life to the fullest!
>
> Show the world your good side everyday! Life can be hard or it can be
> easy. It is all in the perspective. Have an AWESOME day, i do! 
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
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Re: [CMLHope] Hello

Busy as beavers

18's,

Marty

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> I’m still here.Everyone is feeling good and busy I guess.
>
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Hi, I was thinking about all of this so i decided to tell you one of my
stories. It is about helping other people. Yes some of it may make you cry
but some will put some happiness into your lives. It has done these two
emotions to me as well. And i felt that you have the right to also know.
There are 1,286 stories in my journal that i have compiled over the last
thirty years

  Peter M Sr. and Peter M Jr.





In the early part of 1991 I heard of a Transit Police Officer in New York
City that was stricken with Leukemia. I was able to make contact with his
father Peter Jr. because of a Bone Marrow drive that he had started in
hopes of getting a tissue match for his son Peter Jr.



Unfortunately, as time went by he was not successful in his quest, but an
amazing thing happened from his search. He was actually able to find at
least a half dozen other compatible matches for others in need of a bone
marrow transplant. He was also able to collect some monetary donations to
help offset the cost of his search for his son, and after his son died he
would donate the remainder of these funds to others in the same situation.



Since Peter Sr. was a captain in the New York City Fire Department, many of
the men working in the New York City Fire Department, as well as the New
York City Police Department which Peter Jr. belonged to, volunteered to be
tested to see if a match could be found. This is how I first was able to
speak with Peter Sr. Since then we have had many conversations, and they
were both very comforting and informative to him as well as his son Peter
Jr. and we became close.



Months had passed and Peter Jr. was unable to find a suitable match and was
forced to have his mother be his bone marrow donor knowing that this was
not a very close match. In order to find a good match there has to be
several indicators in the bone marrow. Since there were no other matches
available either by sibling or in the general public bone marrow bank, in
order to stay alive, even for a short period of time he had to do
something.



Since his disease was progressing he had no other choice but to use his
mothers marrow donation. Unfortunately, and sadly Peter Jr. succumbed to
his disease slightly more then two years after receiving his mother’s
marrow donation.



Peter Sr. found out that I would make a speech at a Temple on Staten Island
about helping people. Without any knowledge on my part he did attend as the
many others that I have previously helped. I was shocked to see all of
these people, some that I had never even had the opportunity of meeting in
person but I had known quite well by their voices. They were all seated in
the first two rows in the Temple sanctuary.



I finally found out later on, two years later to be exact when Rabbi
Sussman presented me with the many letters he had received. Here is the one
written by Peter M before his son’s death:







Dated November 6, 1993



Dear Rabbi Sussman,



Although we have never met, I felt the need to write to you about a mutual
friend, Marty Gartenberg. Marty to coin a phrase is “one in a million”.  I
first spoke to him in 1991. A story about my son Peter, a NYC Transit
Police Officer and a victim of Leukemia had been published in The Staten
Island Advance.



It told of Peter’s plight and the desperate search we were making for a
compatible bone marrow donor, our only hope of saving his life. After
reading the story Marty who had himself had a bone marrow transplant about
a year before went to considerable trouble to find a way of contacting me.



When he was finally able to get my phone number, he called me explaining
his desire to help us by offering his support and the benefit of his rather
extensive knowledge gained first hand. He explained that having gone
through the rigors of a transplant he had decided to devote all of his time
to helping others in the same situation. The enormity of what he was saying
took some time to sink in. Here was a man who had gone through so much
himself, who was still fighting this disease and the after effects of his
transplant, who had every reason to say to the world “leave me alone, I
have my own problems” but who instead decided to reach out to others to
help his fellow man.



Such a man is rare, and like most rare things – valuable. Marty and I had
many conversations since that first one. Some long some short some happy
and some not so happy, but each time I came away renewed in spirit because
I knew he was there for me. And I am by no means the only one. Marty has
talked to scores maybe even hundreds of people like me, and his compassion
and understanding transcend anything as trivial religion or race national
origin. He is blind to these things. All he sees is the need, and offers
his help without reservation, to *anyone* he can reach. He has even had a
second phone line installed in his home so he can carry on this good work.



I am a captain in the NYC fire

Re: [CMLHope] Beth muscle issues

WOW let me also say this backwards... WOW!

I just had to comment on Jeanie's comment to Beth..Hi sweet Beth.
I thought that was very cute. But it goes far beyond that it shows that
everyone here cares for eachother and even beyond that. There is power and
strength in groups such as our's.

My goodness I sent out a "Hello, hello is anyone there" and it started up a
bees nest of all you fine caring people.
I have been on many sites dealing with CML and i never got such a response
with any of them except this one.

Hi sweet everyone.

18's,

Marty

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 6:52 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Hi sweet Beth
> So glad to hear from you and get our uplifts we so badly need.
> I sprained my muscle in the top part of my right leg and it really hurt.
> Then my bones a muscles started to wake me up at night. I get up and
> massage them. I was wondering if you are under a doctors care for the
> muscles and what they told you to do for pain and all.
> I take Ponatinib and have for 3 years this Jan.
> I limped for about a week but it's gradually getting better I don't think
> I could work but I am 80 years young in May.
> Looking forward to your advice.
> I still walk and do some house work and gardening.
> Love you so very much.
> Jeanie
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extramine
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Mar 10, 2018, at 8:41 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
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>
> Dear Marty, Jeanie, Greenie, Susan, SuzieQ, Richard, Kristen and everyone
> else who am forgetting because of my chemo brain. I am here, think about
> everyone often...had a bad flu season...really starting to feel better only
> nowWow17 years for both Kristen and Jeanie!! Congrats...I just hit 8
> years on February 12thTime marches on..so glad to be here with all of
> you...
>
> My latest blood work came back undetectable...so I was very happy to see
> thatstill navigating the severe muscle fatigue, deterioration issues,
> and some heart sprycel related stuff..but I am truly blessed to be
> here...and to still be able to work
>
> love to all of you out there.the glass is half full in Chicago!
>
> 18's
> Beth
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> To: wa2yyx <wa2...@gmail.com>; cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Mar 10, 2018 4:18 pm
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> For me it's been 13 years.
> 18's,
> Susan F. Zimmerman
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> On Saturday, March 10, 2018 Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jeanie,
>
> Wow 17 years! Good for you as well. My congratulates to you. Hey are you
> catching up with me? 30 years for me.
> Time fly's by when your riding on the Marquis Express. Okay now lets all
> sing along all of you people out there...`\uD83D\uDE4E\uD83D\
> uDE46\uD83D\uDC81\uD83D\uDE4B\uD83D\uDE47\uD83D\uDE4C\uD83D\
> uDEB6\uD83C\uDFC3\uD83D\uDC83\uD83D\uDC6B\uD83D\uDC6C\uD83D\
> uDC6D\uD83D\uDC8F\uD83D\uDC91\uD83D\uDC6A
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 5:00 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
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> I am celebrating 17 years also.  I'm on my 4 tki: Ponatinib. Been a rough
> ride. How bout you!
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> \uD83D\uDC2018's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extramine
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Mar 10, 2018, at 2:10 PM, Kristin Lieberman <kristinlieber...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> I’m here. Celebrating my 17th year as a CML survivor!
>
> Kristin
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Hi Jeanie,

Wow 17 years! Good for you as well. My congratulates to you. Hey are you
catching up with me? 30 years for me.
Time fly's by when your riding on the Marquis Express. Okay now lets all
sing along all of you people out there...`

18's,

Marty

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 5:00 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
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> I am celebrating 17 years also.  I'm on my 4 tki: Ponatinib. Been a rough
> ride. How bout you!
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extramine
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Mar 10, 2018, at 2:10 PM, Kristin Lieberman <kristinlieber...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> I’m here. Celebrating my 17th year as a CML survivor!
>
> Kristin
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Re: [CMLHope] Digest for cmlhope@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

Hi Kristin,

Glad to hear from you again and to know that your doing well. Please stay
in touch when ever your around just to say hello.

18's,

Marty

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Re: [CMLHope] Hello

Hi Sherry,

So your still hanging in there... GOOD but now you say that you have slowed
down? Well that is also Okay because so have i. Got an idea for both of
us.. Since we both got a bit slower then lets tie both of our legs together
let's say my right leg to your left leg or if you wish my left to your
right and then lets have a backwards sack race?

Oh I know that we will feel much better after that sack race. What do you
think? 樂

18's,

Marty

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> Hi Marty,
>
> I'm still here. A little slower than I was before, a few more aliments,
> but that's okay too.  Hope you're doing well.
>
> L'chaim
>
> Sherri
>
>
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Hello, hello... Is anyone out there?

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Re: [CMLHope] The Daffodil principal

Joyce,

I am glad that you liked it.

18's,

Marty












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> Marty,
> Beautiful pictures and a good boot in the butt that we all need to get out
> of a rut and DO something.  Love the Daffodil principle.
>  Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
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> On Feb 26, 2018, at 8:20 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [CMLHope] Re: The Daffodil principal

Glad you n enjoyed it.

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:50 PM, Richard H  wrote:

> Thanks!  After almost weeks of cloudy sky I needed an uplift from one of
> your postings.
>
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Re: [CMLHope] Hey there

 list was your basic contact.  Millie could really cook and she would give
> me recipes.  I told her it was strange I'm from Fl and she's from PA and we
> still love same of same foods.  She lived to cook and freeze for later.
> More later
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2018, at 12:11 AM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:
>
> Jeanie,
> I am doing very well since I got home from the double surgery and dealing
> with the blood clots.  I am not bedridden.  I get around pretty well but
> have trouble with my knees.
> We truly are warriors.  And Marty is our cheerleader!
> I wish you all the best.
> God bless and keep you.
> Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2018, at 8:26 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Joyce
> Wow!  You have really been through the mill. So happy you made it through.
> You and I are about the same age and that it the reason I never pushed for
> surgery. Sounds like you are well on the way to recovery.
> I would have it done if I could get up the nerve. I have been in the
> hospital but no doctor ever pushed for surgery.
> We are warriors and MArty is our faithful leader so let's just keep
> fighting a good battle.
> Do you have to go to the dr much Marty?
> I go every three months to Moffitt and a couple month to my PCd.
> I pray Joyce that all will be alright. Are you bed ridden ?
> Keep fighting.
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extramine
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You see Joyce that slideshow actually did it's thing for you, not to
> mention about why i always add my 18's. You and your husband have gone
> through a lot, but both of you keep on bouncing back. And i can honestly
> vouch for that.
>
> When your feeling lousy why don't you watch that slide show again?
>
> You know that everyone also has their own set of problems but it is in the
> way that they handle them.
>
> Glad that your both feeling better. This is for you... 
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:
>
>> Beautiful slideshow, Marty.  Thank you.
>> Have not been on this site for 3 weeks.  Went to ER with gallbladder
>> attack and they did a CAT scan and noticed that my old hiatal hernia that
>> has been bugging me for some 20 years had twisted, and evidently that is a
>> very bad thing, because they put me in an ambulance and sent me from our
>> local hospital to BarnesJewish in St Louis and said I would have emergency
>> surgery as soon as I got there.  That didn’t happen but I was in the
>> hospital for 3 days as they did test upon test.  I went home for 3 days and
>> had surgery on Monday the next week.  Had gallbladder removed and hiatal
>> hernia was repaired.  I was doing very well and planned to go home on
>> Wednesday when my oxygen levels went down.  Long story short:  I had blood
>> clots in both lungs and one in my right calf.  Was in hospital for 8 days
>> and came home using belly shots of Lovenox to bridge to warfarin.  Am doing
>> better and gaining strength.  Had to eat pureed food for 2 weeks.  Now on
>> soft diet.  It was a trying time because I am the caregiver for my husband
>> who has CML and is also legally blind.  But we  pulled through with the
>> help of our two daughters.  I’ll have to get caught up on what went on
>> while I was out of commission.
>> Joyce in Southern Illinois
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 16, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
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Re: [CMLHope] Hey there

Hi Joyce,

First, believe me i am honored that you think of me as your faithful
leader, but i am not because WE are all our own faithful leaders. With only
one there is none.

Okay to answer your question I don't only go to one doctor because it is a
singular rather a
plural meaning a multipal amount of doctors which is what i go to. Most of
which are not only my doctors but my friends as well. I even learn from
them and they also learn from me as well.

This is our relationship as well. I'll tell you a story. When i had to go
through dialysis one of my doctors that used to tend to me was always
asking me while i was taking dialysis "Marty if there is anything that i
can do for you then all you have do is ask me" Now those were his actual
words.

And you know what I said? My dear Dr. H** would you kindly give me one
of your kidneys. For some reason he never asked me again, but we still see
eachother any time that i am in the hospital because he makes it his
mission to always help me, and for this he and i always like to see
eachother.

When my fistula in my arm started to fail most of my doctors got together,
including
Dr. H* and wrote letters to the governing society of organ translation
unbeknownst to me and in less than two weeks i was notified that there was
a suitable kidney donor for me and it all history behind me.

In another instance my Pulmonary doctor found that i had a very severe case
of Phenomena and immediately drove me to the hospital herself.

Going back 30 years when i finished with my BMT while all of the bills came
in there were two that said they were writing them off because of what i
did to help them. These are the doctors that i'm speaking of. Now you know
why my doctors have many times helped save me.

Don't ever be afraid to go to a doctor because they are here to help you.

This is the kind of relationship that i have with my doctors.

18's,

Marty


On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 9:26 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Hey Joyce
> Wow!  You have really been through the mill. So happy you made it through.
> You and I are about the same age and that it the reason I never pushed for
> surgery. Sounds like you are well on the way to recovery.
> I would have it done if I could get up the nerve. I have been in the
> hospital but no doctor ever pushed for surgery.
> We are warriors and MArty is our faithful leader so let's just keep
> fighting a good battle.
> Do you have to go to the dr much Marty?
> I go every three months to Moffitt and a couple month to my PCd.
> I pray Joyce that all will be alright. Are you bed ridden ?
> Keep fighting.
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extramine
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You see Joyce that slideshow actually did it's thing for you, not to
> mention about why i always add my 18's. You and your husband have gone
> through a lot, but both of you keep on bouncing back. And i can honestly
> vouch for that.
>
> When your feeling lousy why don't you watch that slide show again?
>
> You know that everyone also has their own set of problems but it is in the
> way that they handle them.
>
> Glad that your both feeling better. This is for you... 
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:
>
>> Beautiful slideshow, Marty.  Thank you.
>> Have not been on this site for 3 weeks.  Went to ER with gallbladder
>> attack and they did a CAT scan and noticed that my old hiatal hernia that
>> has been bugging me for some 20 years had twisted, and evidently that is a
>> very bad thing, because they put me in an ambulance and sent me from our
>> local hospital to BarnesJewish in St Louis and said I would have emergency
>> surgery as soon as I got there.  That didn’t happen but I was in the
>> hospital for 3 days as they did test upon test.  I went home for 3 days and
>> had surgery on Monday the next week.  Had gallbladder removed and hiatal
>> hernia was repaired.  I was doing very well and planned to go home on
>> Wednesday when my oxygen levels went down.  Long story short:  I had blood
>> clots in both lungs and one in my right calf.  Was in hospital for 8 days
>> and came home using belly shots of Lovenox to bridge to warfarin.  Am doing
>> better and gaining strength.  Had to eat pureed food for 2 weeks.  Now on
>> soft diet.  It was a trying time because I am the caregiver for my husband
>> who has CML and is also legally blind.  But we  pulled through with the
>> help of our two 

Re: [CMLHope] Joyce

Jeanie,

Since you live in or near to Orlando (well you answered my question about
where you live. There are several very good hospitals in or near your area,
why don't you check them out.

Find one and a doctor that will fix your hernia. Why suffer anymore? Same
thing for you Joyce.

You have to know me by now, if something is wrong with me i make sure it is
taken care of asap PLEASE listen.

18's,

Marty

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:32 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> So sorry to hear about all your problems. Did you get good care?  I have
> umbelical hernia. Been afraid to get it fixed.  Anyone had this fixed?
> Mine happened due to umbelical surgery twice from gallbladder and getting
> tubes tied.  Just weakened the area. I wish I had had it fixed when I was
> younger.
> I live in the outskirts of Orlando. It's close to my daughters.
> Does anyone have any idea which type of dr I should see ?
> I don't drink. Smoke. Overeat,and live a healthy lifestyle.  Pray for all
> Love you so very much
> Jeanie
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extramine
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:09 AM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:
>
> Beautiful slideshow, Marty.  Thank you.
> Have not been on this site for 3 weeks.  Went to ER with gallbladder
> attack and they did a CAT scan and noticed that my old hiatal hernia that
> has been bugging me for some 20 years had twisted, and evidently that is a
> very bad thing, because they put me in an ambulance and sent me from our
> local hospital to BarnesJewish in St Louis and said I would have emergency
> surgery as soon as I got there.  That didn’t happen but I was in the
> hospital for 3 days as they did test upon test.  I went home for 3 days and
> had surgery on Monday the next week.  Had gallbladder removed and hiatal
> hernia was repaired.  I was doing very well and planned to go home on
> Wednesday when my oxygen levels went down.  Long story short:  I had blood
> clots in both lungs and one in my right calf.  Was in hospital for 8 days
> and came home using belly shots of Lovenox to bridge to warfarin.  Am doing
> better and gaining strength.  Had to eat pureed food for 2 weeks.  Now on
> soft diet.  It was a trying time because I am the caregiver for my husband
> who has CML and is also legally blind.  But we  pulled through with the
> help of our two daughters.  I’ll have to get caught up on what went on
> while I was out of commission.
>Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Feb 16, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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Re: [CMLHope] Re: Joyce blood clots?

Like i said go and see your doctor because she will answer your questions
if you ask her. There are so many things that it could be just start
somewhere. Most things are usually resolved very easily.

18's

Marty

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:35 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> His could you tell you had blood clots?. Lots in legs. I bruise easily my
> Ponatinib has blood clots as side effects.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extramine
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Feb 18, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Jeanie <icandoall...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> So sorry to hear about all your problems. Did you get good care?  I have
> umbelical hernia. Been afraid to get it fixed.  Anyone had this fixed?
> Mine happened due to umbelical surgery twice from gallbladder and getting
> tubes tied.  Just weakened the area. I wish I had had it fixed when I was
> younger.
> I live in the outskirts of Orlando. It's close to my daughters.
> Does anyone have any idea which type of dr I should see ?
> I don't drink. Smoke. Overeat,and live a healthy lifestyle.  Pray for all
> Love you so very much
> Jeanie
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extramine
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:09 AM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:
>
> Beautiful slideshow, Marty.  Thank you.
> Have not been on this site for 3 weeks.  Went to ER with gallbladder
> attack and they did a CAT scan and noticed that my old hiatal hernia that
> has been bugging me for some 20 years had twisted, and evidently that is a
> very bad thing, because they put me in an ambulance and sent me from our
> local hospital to BarnesJewish in St Louis and said I would have emergency
> surgery as soon as I got there.  That didn’t happen but I was in the
> hospital for 3 days as they did test upon test.  I went home for 3 days and
> had surgery on Monday the next week.  Had gallbladder removed and hiatal
> hernia was repaired.  I was doing very well and planned to go home on
> Wednesday when my oxygen levels went down.  Long story short:  I had blood
> clots in both lungs and one in my right calf.  Was in hospital for 8 days
> and came home using belly shots of Lovenox to bridge to warfarin.  Am doing
> better and gaining strength.  Had to eat pureed food for 2 weeks.  Now on
> soft diet.  It was a trying time because I am the caregiver for my husband
> who has CML and is also legally blind.  But we  pulled through with the
> help of our two daughters.  I’ll have to get caught up on what went on
> while I was out of commission.
>Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Feb 16, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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Re: [CMLHope] My annual appreciation day

Hi Jeanie,

Sorry to hear about the pain your having. Hmm it sounds to me like a case
of gout but i could be wrong, for instance the gout usually starts in the
lower feet particularly in the big toe but can also manifest it self in any
joint of your body. It did for me and i suffered all kinds of terrible pain.

That was right after my diagnoses when i was put on Allopurinal and Hydrea.
About two weeks later my gout was gone and so was my very white cell count.
So what this meant is it usually takes about two weeks to distinguishes the
gout. It's to bad however that my white blood count was going up until i
got my BMT, but at least it "cured the gout".

>From then on no more gout but every once in a while it's ugly head
"craps" up on me if i eat anything containing purines like red meat,
mushrooms etc which is my favorite especially smothered in mushrooms.  Now
there is more... Once i received my BMT and my Kidney transplant i had to
be put on Prednisone which will eliminate with in 30 minutes or so even
when you have an active attack.

I have been taking Allopurinal for over 30 years and  Prednisone for the
last 7 years. Yes i have no gout or very little gout for all of there
years, however there is both good and bad... I have already described the
good but the bad is that it increased my blood sugar level...

Jeanie, i am not a doctor but to answer your question, yes i would go see a
doctor because it is you that should have your questions answered. And
maybe i am wrong about the gout, who knows, but something to talk about
with your doctor?

Okay now Jeanie i have to answer a comment that you made. It is a really
good to hear that you began your post to me. I even copied and pasted
it  "Thanks
Sweetheart" i liked that and thought it was cute and i am passing this onto
you 

By the way as you probably know that i live in Florida, in West Palm Beach
in a town called Boynton Beach right near the Florida Turnpike. Where do
you live?

You have a great day.

18's,

Marty

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 7:51 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks Sweetheart
> Those were beautiful.  You always brighten our day.
> I have been in so much pain lately and don't know if I should go to a dr
> or not. It started in my little right finger and then creeped on up my
> arm.  Now my heel and sometimes ankles are killing me.  The pain usually
> wakes me up nightly. I get up and massage it good.  Do any of my warriors
> suggest another dr?
> Anyway I loved the video and appreciation day is a wonderful idea. My
> blood work show no leukemia.  My pain is probably old age and the answer
> more pills. Do any of you have this. It clears up during the day most of
> the time.
> My new dr seems to be kk. I haven't met with her that much yet. I guess
> the next step would be to try and get off pills. There are trials for that.
> Have a wonderful day everyone.
> Love you so very much
> Jeanie from Fl
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extramine
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Feb 16, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So that you know my annual appreciation day could be on any day and could
> happen on any other day. It was set on my actual birthday  May 21st which
> is also on the day of my bone marrow transplant.
>
> So just to let you know how much all of you mean to me i am including this
> to every one of you.
> Please turn the volume up, sit back and relax, and enjoy this. I sincerely
> hope that it will put everything in prospective to you.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
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Re: [CMLHope] My annual appreciation day

You see Joyce that slideshow actually did it's thing for you, not to
mention about why i always add my 18's. You and your husband have gone
through a lot, but both of you keep on bouncing back. And i can honestly
vouch for that.

When your feeling lousy why don't you watch that slide show again?

You know that everyone also has their own set of problems but it is in the
way that they handle them.

Glad that your both feeling better. This is for you... 

18's,

Marty

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:

> Beautiful slideshow, Marty.  Thank you.
> Have not been on this site for 3 weeks.  Went to ER with gallbladder
> attack and they did a CAT scan and noticed that my old hiatal hernia that
> has been bugging me for some 20 years had twisted, and evidently that is a
> very bad thing, because they put me in an ambulance and sent me from our
> local hospital to BarnesJewish in St Louis and said I would have emergency
> surgery as soon as I got there.  That didn’t happen but I was in the
> hospital for 3 days as they did test upon test.  I went home for 3 days and
> had surgery on Monday the next week.  Had gallbladder removed and hiatal
> hernia was repaired.  I was doing very well and planned to go home on
> Wednesday when my oxygen levels went down.  Long story short:  I had blood
> clots in both lungs and one in my right calf.  Was in hospital for 8 days
> and came home using belly shots of Lovenox to bridge to warfarin.  Am doing
> better and gaining strength.  Had to eat pureed food for 2 weeks.  Now on
> soft diet.  It was a trying time because I am the caregiver for my husband
> who has CML and is also legally blind.  But we  pulled through with the
> help of our two daughters.  I’ll have to get caught up on what went on
> while I was out of commission.
> Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> > On Feb 16, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
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Re: [CMLHope] Yahoo!! Yippie!!! I'm 0

Hi Jeanie,

I am glad that your doing so well just keep it up.

You asked a question--- Does this mean that i am cured? I have an answer
for you. It is like what Neil Armstrong once said. Once you are a cancer
survivor then you will never forget it. Well Mr Armstrong is doing well and
so am I.
Mr. Marty. Oh Yea, and it seems that we have added someone else to the
list... You Ms. Jeanie. 

18's

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 10:16 PM, 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sooo happy for your numbers, Jeanie! Maybe when they cut your meds in half
> that side pain will go away!!! I pray it does
> 18's and hugs,
>
> Susan Z.
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> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I saw my new doctor at Moffitt. Her name is Martine Extermine. She works
> also with the seniors and I liked her a lot but she had a lot put on her
> shoulders. Had to take over all Dr Balducci's patients.
> II got good news. I asked her what my last BCR ABL tests results were and
> she said 0's. Am I cured? I don't think they know but they are doing a
> study for those of us doing well on our test. It's cutting patients to half
> doses you have to be checked once a month. What does the group think about
> it?
> Hope everyone is good today.
> Blessings. V
>
>
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> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
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Re: [CMLHope] off Sprycel

Lovely Beth!

18's,

Marty

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:47 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> HI Choi,
>
> This sounds very difficult. While your friend is not in molecular
> remission his blood work is stable..it has not spiked while on less
> sprycel. Is it possible he could go on 40 mgs or 40 five days a week and 60
> two days a week? Sometimes just enough medication will keep the plural
> effusions at bay, while still keeping the cancer at bay as well. The risk
> is getting resistant, which he has already done with the Gleevec. But there
> are other options and another in trials that works in a different area than
> the other TKI's that is showing promise. So hopefully your friend can find
> the right med at the right dose to keep his disease in check. He may not
> tolerate full doses of the more recent and more potent meds..but there are
> several left to try.
> I can only tolerate 40 a day. Keeps me in check. I cannot go off med as I
> cannot take a high enough dose to get into that level of remission..but it
> works for me.
>
> Others who did not tolerate Sprycel have gone on bosutinib and it has
> worked for them...
>
> Take good care..
>
> 18's hope and love,
>
>
> Beth
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jamie Tufariello 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Thu, Jan 25, 2018 10:44 am
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] off Sprycel
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2015, Choi  wrote:
>
> Hi, this is Choi from South Korea. One of my CML friends had some problems
> and I just wonder who had a similar experience.
>
> He was diagnosed with CML chronic phase on july 2012 and started Gleevec
> 400mg for 16 months and switched to Sprycel due to E355G mutation.
> At that time his PCR was 1.89. He started Sprycel  and E355G mutaiton was
> disappered. He was on Sprycel for 12 months.
> He developed pleural effusions after 12 months of Sprycel at that time his
> dose was 100mg. His doctor stopped Sprycel for 2 weeks and restarted
> Sprycel 80mg for 3 months.
> Once again he developed pleural effusions so he was off Sprycel for 4
> weeks and restarted Sprycel 60mg until now and still had minor pleural
> effusions.
> PCR count was 0.37, 0.47, 0.45 and never drop to under 0.1% so his doctor
> was considering to switch to other drugs but hesitated to switch because of
> he had E355G mutation.
> Is there any one who had a similar experience?
>
> Choi.
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Re: [CMLHope] CML and Gleevec-Thankful for another year

Hi Jeanie,

Glad that your son will be coming down to share some food with you. When
were living in Staten Island N.Y. or even in Pennsylvania we would all get
together and go to a place called Harold's New York Deli  in Edison N.J.
and i will send you some pictures...

Check it out. We usually get the triple decker but we have to bring along
at least ten people along. This is where Zavie and others would come to. By
the way even with ten people there will be leftovers for everyone. I am not
kidding. And if you check out the price of the triple decker it is or was
about $50. But that's about $5 per person. Everything there is really,
really BIG!

https://www.google.com/search?q=harold%27s+deli+in+edison+new+jersey=isch=u=univ=X=0ahUKEwjLsJiIprzYAhVD8CYKHaJhCC8QsAQIYg=1344=755=1.25



On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 9:49 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you so much Marty. You always make me feel better. I will let you
> know.
> I'm going to call you the "leader of the pack " for we warriors. We all
> love you and your courageous view of life. It runs off on us.
> My middle son is coming to take me to lunch. He lives in Ga.  We go to
> market buffet at Hollywood casino. Have a great day.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Jan 1, 2018, at 11:15 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don't worry your  new doctor will be more understanding about your pain.
> You'll see. And out with the past year and in with the new year and your
> new doctor.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 10:41 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Marty
>> I think our body needs a vacation from these tki's now and then.  I hope
>> my new doctor will be more understanding about my pain.
>> Thanks for the group and all your prayers. One more year to show the
>> world the courage we have.
>>
>> Love you so very much.
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:18 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jeanie,
>>
>> Hey this is a special group, and we have to thank each other for trying
>> to help each other.
>> I am delighted to know that your finally going to speak to your doctor
>> and please don't forget too let him know that
>> you already have taken some "vacations" from your Gleevic because you
>> really want him to try and realize that you are still doing okay.
>>
>> I wish that each and every one of you a very HEALTHY and HAPPY New Year.
>> You really are warriors.
>>
>> 18's
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 3:12 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Happy New Year to all. Let's pray the new year brings in much less pain
>>> and a more enjoyable life. Thanks Marty for the advice about pain. I'm
>>> gonna talk it over with my new doctor.  Fireworks gonna keep me awake I'm
>>> sure. Love you so very much.
>>>
>>> My Motto:
>>> Faith and Pills
>>> With Love
>>> 18's
>>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jeanie,
>>>>
>>>> To answer your question about what i do for pain. It depends on what
>>>> kinds of pain that i am having and it's intensity and how long it lasts. If
>>>> it's light to moderate then i  just try to relax my mind and try to deal
>>>> with but severe pain must be dealt with but i try not to use any opiates
>>>> but try anything else that may help me but some times i have to use some
>>>> opiates but not for a long time.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a joke for better words to use. I went to the doctor because i
>>>> hurt my leg every time my f

Re: [CMLHope] CML and Gleevec-Thankful for another year

Don't worry your  new doctor will be more understanding about your pain.
You'll see. And out with the past year and in with the new year and your
new doctor.

18's,

Marty

On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 10:41 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you Marty
> I think our body needs a vacation from these tki's now and then.  I hope
> my new doctor will be more understanding about my pain.
> Thanks for the group and all your prayers. One more year to show the world
> the courage we have.
>
> Love you so very much.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:18 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jeanie,
>
> Hey this is a special group, and we have to thank each other for trying to
> help each other.
> I am delighted to know that your finally going to speak to your doctor and
> please don't forget too let him know that
> you already have taken some "vacations" from your Gleevic because you
> really want him to try and realize that you are still doing okay.
>
> I wish that each and every one of you a very HEALTHY and HAPPY New Year.
> You really are warriors.
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 3:12 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year to all. Let's pray the new year brings in much less pain
>> and a more enjoyable life. Thanks Marty for the advice about pain. I'm
>> gonna talk it over with my new doctor.  Fireworks gonna keep me awake I'm
>> sure. Love you so very much.
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeanie,
>>>
>>> To answer your question about what i do for pain. It depends on what
>>> kinds of pain that i am having and it's intensity and how long it lasts. If
>>> it's light to moderate then i  just try to relax my mind and try to deal
>>> with but severe pain must be dealt with but i try not to use any opiates
>>> but try anything else that may help me but some times i have to use some
>>> opiates but not for a long time.
>>>
>>> Here is a joke for better words to use. I went to the doctor because i
>>> hurt my leg every time my fingers touch my leg.
>>>
>>> No problem says the doctor and he takes out a hammer and hits my hand. I
>>> yell out why did you do that, now my hand hurt so badly, my leg doesn't
>>> hurt as bad as my hand... Exactly says the doctor.
>>>
>>> 18's
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> PS Yes I do remember Millie
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 9:33 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Elizabeth and thanks for the uplift. My dryer just decided to hit
>>>> the dust probably just old age like me. Hehe. Wonderful day with beautiful
>>>> weather.  When I would tell my doctor I was old he would say he didn't want
>>>> to hear about age. He is in his 70s and still going strong.  Well he is
>>>> retiring and I wish him all the best.  He is Dr Balducci head of the senior
>>>> department of Moffitt Cancer center. What is neat is that his wife is head
>>>> of senior department of the veterans department of the veterans hospital
>>>> that is located right up the street from Moffitt.  My right hand is still
>>>> hurting and always wonder what is next.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many here have the tradition of black eyed peas and ham hock?
>>>> Don't know why. My sister had 4 wheelers and I got talked into taking a
>>>> ride. I was scared to death.  They had 5 acres of woods and away we went.
>>>> Fun ride but scary none the less.
>>>>
>>>> Marty, what do you do for pain?  Remember Milly?  She used a lot of
>>>> heat and cold with opiates. I think that was before they cracked down on
>>>> opiates.
>>>>
>>>> Happy New Year everyone!
>>>>
&

Re: [CMLHope] CML and Gleevec-Thankful for another year

Jeanie,

Hey this is a special group, and we have to thank each other for trying to
help each other.
I am delighted to know that your finally going to speak to your doctor and
please don't forget too let him know that
you already have taken some "vacations" from your Gleevic because you
really want him to try and realize that you are still doing okay.

I wish that each and every one of you a very HEALTHY and HAPPY New Year.
You really are warriors.

18's

Marty

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 3:12 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Happy New Year to all. Let's pray the new year brings in much less pain
> and a more enjoyable life. Thanks Marty for the advice about pain. I'm
> gonna talk it over with my new doctor.  Fireworks gonna keep me awake I'm
> sure. Love you so very much.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Dec 29, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeanie,
>>
>> To answer your question about what i do for pain. It depends on what
>> kinds of pain that i am having and it's intensity and how long it lasts. If
>> it's light to moderate then i  just try to relax my mind and try to deal
>> with but severe pain must be dealt with but i try not to use any opiates
>> but try anything else that may help me but some times i have to use some
>> opiates but not for a long time.
>>
>> Here is a joke for better words to use. I went to the doctor because i
>> hurt my leg every time my fingers touch my leg.
>>
>> No problem says the doctor and he takes out a hammer and hits my hand. I
>> yell out why did you do that, now my hand hurt so badly, my leg doesn't
>> hurt as bad as my hand... Exactly says the doctor.
>>
>> 18's
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> PS Yes I do remember Millie
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 9:33 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Elizabeth and thanks for the uplift. My dryer just decided to hit the
>>> dust probably just old age like me. Hehe. Wonderful day with beautiful
>>> weather.  When I would tell my doctor I was old he would say he didn't want
>>> to hear about age. He is in his 70s and still going strong.  Well he is
>>> retiring and I wish him all the best.  He is Dr Balducci head of the senior
>>> department of Moffitt Cancer center. What is neat is that his wife is head
>>> of senior department of the veterans department of the veterans hospital
>>> that is located right up the street from Moffitt.  My right hand is still
>>> hurting and always wonder what is next.
>>>
>>>
>>> How many here have the tradition of black eyed peas and ham hock?  Don't
>>> know why. My sister had 4 wheelers and I got talked into taking a ride. I
>>> was scared to death.  They had 5 acres of woods and away we went. Fun ride
>>> but scary none the less.
>>>
>>> Marty, what do you do for pain?  Remember Milly?  She used a lot of heat
>>> and cold with opiates. I think that was before they cracked down on
>>> opiates.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year everyone!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My Motto:
>>> Faith and Pills
>>> With Love
>>> 18's
>>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>
>>> On Dec 26, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi  Elizabeth W,
>>>
>>> Ever think that Nick is here for a reason? Well he is for sure. A very
>>> blessed healthy and happy New Year to him, and you as well... I would like
>>> to teach you a word: Bashert meaning: It's meant to be.
>>>
>>> 18's, it's meaning is LIFE.
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Nick <ksnwo...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Nick's been on Gleevec since 2003.  He's on 400 of Gleevec, too.
>>>> Yes, he's noticed he's dropping things from his fingers.  We're not sure
>>>> just why, but try to not hold anything which might break or spill.
>>>>
>>>>

Re: [CMLHope] CML and Gleevec-Thankful for another year

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeanie,
>
> To answer your question about what i do for pain. It depends on what kinds
> of pain that i am having and it's intensity and how long it lasts. If it's
> light to moderate then i  just try to relax my mind and try to deal with
> but severe pain must be dealt with but i try not to use any opiates but try
> anything else that may help me but some times i have to use some opiates
> but not for a long time.
>
> Here is a joke for better words to use. I went to the doctor because i
> hurt my leg every time my fingers touch my leg.
>
> No problem says the doctor and he takes out a hammer and hits my hand. I
> yell out why did you do that, now my hand hurt so badly, my leg doesn't
> hurt as bad as my hand... Exactly says the doctor.
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
> PS Yes I do remember Millie
>
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 9:33 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Elizabeth and thanks for the uplift. My dryer just decided to hit the
>> dust probably just old age like me. Hehe. Wonderful day with beautiful
>> weather.  When I would tell my doctor I was old he would say he didn't want
>> to hear about age. He is in his 70s and still going strong.  Well he is
>> retiring and I wish him all the best.  He is Dr Balducci head of the senior
>> department of Moffitt Cancer center. What is neat is that his wife is head
>> of senior department of the veterans department of the veterans hospital
>> that is located right up the street from Moffitt.  My right hand is still
>> hurting and always wonder what is next.
>>
>>
>> How many here have the tradition of black eyed peas and ham hock?  Don't
>> know why. My sister had 4 wheelers and I got talked into taking a ride. I
>> was scared to death.  They had 5 acres of woods and away we went. Fun ride
>> but scary none the less.
>>
>> Marty, what do you do for pain?  Remember Milly?  She used a lot of heat
>> and cold with opiates. I think that was before they cracked down on
>> opiates.
>>
>> Happy New Year everyone!
>>
>>
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>
>> On Dec 26, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi  Elizabeth W,
>>
>> Ever think that Nick is here for a reason? Well he is for sure. A very
>> blessed healthy and happy New Year to him, and you as well... I would like
>> to teach you a word: Bashert meaning: It's meant to be.
>>
>> 18's, it's meaning is LIFE.
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Nick <ksnwo...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Nick's been on Gleevec since 2003.  He's on 400 of Gleevec, too.
>>> Yes, he's noticed he's dropping things from his fingers.  We're not sure
>>> just why, but try to not hold anything which might break or spill.
>>>
>>> We hope everyone had many blessings from your Christmas or Holiday
>>> Season.  We have been counting the biggest blessings  of being together
>>> another year, having good contact with our families,  having a faith
>>> community, having food, ability to see, hear, think, and thank God for
>>> another day.  We try to be good listeners and encouragers to others. Pray
>>> for each of you as we read your name on the sites. Having had a wonderful
>>> Oncologist and Staff who are so supportive of every patient who is in their
>>> care.
>>>
>>> t
>>> This site has been a huge encouragement as Nick goes through stages of
>>> CML and Gleevec..
>>> As ever, Elizabeth W.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [CMLHope] CML and Gleevec-Thankful for another year

Hi Jeanie,

To answer your question about what i do for pain. It depends on what kinds
of pain that i am having and it's intensity and how long it lasts. If it's
light to moderate then i  just try to relax my mind and try to deal with
but severe pain must be dealt with but i try not to use any opiates but try
anything else that may help me but some times i have to use some opiates
but not for a long time.

Here is a joke for better words to use. I went to the doctor because i hurt
my leg every time my fingers touch my leg.

No problem says the doctor and he takes out a hammer and hits my hand. I
yell out why did you do that, now my hand hurt so badly, my leg doesn't
hurt as bad as my hand... Exactly says the doctor.

18's

Marty

PS Yes I do remember Millie

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 9:33 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Elizabeth and thanks for the uplift. My dryer just decided to hit the
> dust probably just old age like me. Hehe. Wonderful day with beautiful
> weather.  When I would tell my doctor I was old he would say he didn't want
> to hear about age. He is in his 70s and still going strong.  Well he is
> retiring and I wish him all the best.  He is Dr Balducci head of the senior
> department of Moffitt Cancer center. What is neat is that his wife is head
> of senior department of the veterans department of the veterans hospital
> that is located right up the street from Moffitt.  My right hand is still
> hurting and always wonder what is next.
>
>
> How many here have the tradition of black eyed peas and ham hock?  Don't
> know why. My sister had 4 wheelers and I got talked into taking a ride. I
> was scared to death.  They had 5 acres of woods and away we went. Fun ride
> but scary none the less.
>
> Marty, what do you do for pain?  Remember Milly?  She used a lot of heat
> and cold with opiates. I think that was before they cracked down on
> opiates.
>
> Happy New Year everyone!
>
>
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Dec 26, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi  Elizabeth W,
>
> Ever think that Nick is here for a reason? Well he is for sure. A very
> blessed healthy and happy New Year to him, and you as well... I would like
> to teach you a word: Bashert meaning: It's meant to be.
>
> 18's, it's meaning is LIFE.
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Nick <ksnwo...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Nick's been on Gleevec since 2003.  He's on 400 of Gleevec, too.
>> Yes, he's noticed he's dropping things from his fingers.  We're not sure
>> just why, but try to not hold anything which might break or spill.
>>
>> We hope everyone had many blessings from your Christmas or Holiday
>> Season.  We have been counting the biggest blessings  of being together
>> another year, having good contact with our families,  having a faith
>> community, having food, ability to see, hear, think, and thank God for
>> another day.  We try to be good listeners and encouragers to others. Pray
>> for each of you as we read your name on the sites. Having had a wonderful
>> Oncologist and Staff who are so supportive of every patient who is in their
>> care.
>>
>> t
>> This site has been a huge encouragement as Nick goes through stages of
>> CML and Gleevec..
>> As ever, Elizabeth W.
>>
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] CML and Gleevec-Thankful for another year

Hi  Elizabeth W,

Ever think that Nick is here for a reason? Well he is for sure. A very
blessed healthy and happy New Year to him, and you as well... I would like
to teach you a word: Bashert meaning: It's meant to be.

18's, it's meaning is LIFE.

Marty

On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Nick  wrote:

> Hi, Nick's been on Gleevec since 2003.  He's on 400 of Gleevec, too.  Yes,
> he's noticed he's dropping things from his fingers.  We're not sure just
> why, but try to not hold anything which might break or spill.
>
> We hope everyone had many blessings from your Christmas or Holiday
> Season.  We have been counting the biggest blessings  of being together
> another year, having good contact with our families,  having a faith
> community, having food, ability to see, hear, think, and thank God for
> another day.  We try to be good listeners and encouragers to others. Pray
> for each of you as we read your name on the sites. Having had a wonderful
> Oncologist and Staff who are so supportive of every patient who is in their
> care.
>
> t
> This site has been a huge encouragement as Nick goes through stages of CML
> and Gleevec..
> As ever, Elizabeth W.
>
>
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Re: [CMLHope] Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and Happy New year

What is wrong with people? Let me remind your soon to be departed doctor of
his OBLIGATION to remember his Hippocratic oath including pain. This oath
deals with a lot of requirements, and one that deals specifically with
pain.

Listen pain should not be tolerated, and let me repeat this again pain
should not be tolerated! If you can avoid it then so be it but if you can
not then the people that are intolerable of compassion better change their
jobs.

I am personally angry at any one that doesn't try to help relieve someones
pain, and i can tell you lot of facts that personally happened to me but
you have already heard of one but not the fault of those that were treating
me.

And one more thing that you are going through.. It doesn't matter if your
pain is caused by your TKI or back or anything else but what does matter is
that you are experiencing pain and the people that are treating you have
the responsibility of treating your pain. I am so sorry that your going
through this.

The ten commitments are addressed to doctors of all specialties.



*The Decalogue *

*I. I am a doctor and respect the Hippocratic Oath*

*II. I have to treat pain*

*III. I must take care of the suffering that comes from pain*

*IV. I have to work for the wellness of the person*

*V. I have to consider essential the quality of care*

*VI. I have to commit myself to ensure that access to care to all people is
guaranteed, wherever they are born and live *

*VII. I have to avoid inequalities and treat all people, regardless of age,
gender, ethnicity and religion*

*VIII. I have to base treatment decisions on the respect of the will of the
person and in defence of human dignity*

*IX. I have to share and promote the knowledge on pain care*

*X. This is my commitment to improving the quality of life of people with
pain*


*18's*

*Marty*

On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 12:36 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
> This has been a pretty good year for me and most you I hope.  Marty I just
> don't know how you made it through all that pain without some good pain
> medicine. There is nothing any worse than your but hurting.
> Here's my story.
> About 6 months into treatment with Ponatinib, the pain under my right rib
> became unbearable and I asked my oncologist for some Oxycodone. I had
> researched it as I do everything I take, but I missed out on all the
> governments trying to do to doctors for giving these medicines however my
> onc agreed to give me small dose of oxy. He had been giving me this
> medicine for about 6 months when he just announced out of the blue he would
> not write me another script.  Then he started insisting I go to a pain
> clinic. He said he would release me from Moffitt if I didn't. I didn't even
> know there was a thing such as a pain clinic. He said he would write it for
> 3 more months but then all of s sudden said he wouldn't write not even one.
> I didn't know you had to titrate off these drugs and evidently he didn't
> either.
> So with no more pain pills my pain increased and the side effects from
> going cold turkey off these drugs were making me really sick.  My daughter
> has to come from Sanford to Moffitt so now she would be having to come once
> a month for the pain clinic.  I again explained to my onc the situation I
> was in but he didn't care.  He just said go to pain clinic or leave
> Moffitt.
> Now, there are 2 pain clinics at Moffitt but neither one would take me
> because my onc said the pain wasn't from cancer or chemo but it says that
> cml causes pain and the chemo causes all kinds of pain.
> So anyway my nurse at Moffitt has back problems and she recommended a pain
> clinic she uses. They are nice but they make you come once a month no
> exception s. I don't drive and am dependent on someone to drive me.
> It seems the government doesn't want your doctor who knows your problems
> to treat your pain anymore.
> Sorry so long and the point I'm trying to make is how brave I think you
> are in handling all that pain with no help.
> I know you say use your mind and I have tried everything.  It just goes
> back to the pain and how to get a few hours of relief.
> Maybe my new doctor will listen and help.
> My appointment is the 30 of January.  I think my new doctor is a woman and
> she was already working close with Dr Balducci so she is probably familiar
> with my case.
> If anyone on this list has been through the pain problems I would like to
> hear how you are coping.
> Happy New Year
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Dec 23, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
&

Re: [CMLHope] Stating

7 at 12:44 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Susan and no I never could take statins or blood pressure meds. Hurts
> my heart.
> I read where mustard is good for you and it had tumeric. I love mustard so
> I'll increase it.
> One thing I can be thankful for is Ponatinib leaves me with few side
> effects but it is so dangerous a drug to take. Blood clots and heart
> attacks.  God is taking care of me for sure.  I take 1 aspirin daily with
> my chemo. If you read the side effects of Ponatinib you would wonder why
> they are worried about what else you take.
> Have a fun New Years.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Dec 22, 2017, at 5:19 PM, 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeanie!
>
> Was wondering if you are on a statin drug for high cholesterol. Every
> statin drug causes achy joints in varying degrees for people. This is the
> biggest side effect of statin drugs. I refuse to go on them.  Was on
> lipitor for awhile until I did some research. But of course everyone can do
> their own thing.
>
> I also take turmeric (a simple spice) with pepper combined to keep my
> inflammation in general down. It is very effective. Without something in
> pepper that helps the turmeric digest, you are wasting your turmeric. It
> does not absorb into your body without it. Everyone fights inflammation for
> one reason or another. Just a tip.
>
> Also fighting essential tremors and other things, besides the cml.
> Beginning another new drug today to help tremors. In reference to Marty
> saying we can all feed ourselves, pee, etc. Funny, but I am trying to learn
> to eat with my other hand because I shake too bad with the usual hand.
> S thankful I am somewhat ambidextrous! But typing has become a problem.
> Did I mention I am so thankful I can pee, sleep, chew food, walk, talk and
> especially laugh?  My husband makes sure of that.
>
> Have wonderful holidays and enjoy every day!!!
> Thanks Marty for making us all laugh!!!
> 18's,
> Love and prayers,
> Susan Z.
>
>
>
>
> Susan F. Zimmerman
> "All who humble themselves before the Lord shall be given every blessing,
> and shall have wonderful peace." Ps.37:11
>
>
> --
> On Friday, December 22, 2017 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Have you considered Moffitt cancer center. I go there and like it. You go
> to the blood center and get your blood checked and then in about an hour
> they are faxed over to doctor and you see him. I go every three months.
> I was wonder if any of you have your bones aching?  My right little finger
> and hand ache and legs hurt sometimes at night. I've been fighting cml for
> almost 14 years and never had this. Blood counts are all good. Thanks all.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Listen Greenie,
>
> This is what i do because of a promise that i once made to GOD. Let me
> tell you about this.
> When i was about to receive my total body radiation almost 30 years ago,
>
>  just before they were about to close and lock that radiation chamber door
> i got down on my knees clasped my hands in front of me and prayed to GOD
> asking HIM if he would spare me i would help people that were in my
> situation that i would try to help them. So far i have helped 1,286 people
> in the past 30 years, and wrote my journal about each and every one of
> them. This will never be published because of confidentiality reasons, but
> on occasion i will send some of them parts of my book in order to try and
> help them.
>
> Listen i am no saint just a plain human being but someone that once made a
> promise to GOD and i am still here after many many death defying things
> that i have gone trough. And that is why i do what i promised to do. I hope
> that you understand why i do what i do...
>
> There is also why i write 18's when ever i end any posts that i make,
> because that is what i believe. 18's to me represents LIFE.
>
> If you care to send me your personal email address i would like to send
> you something. Mine is wa2yyx@gmail,com
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Myvety2k 

Re: [CMLHope] Questions,

> greenie
>
> In a message dated 12/22/2017 4:47:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Hey, we got a Jeanie, and we got a Greenie in here. Life doesn't get
> better.
>
> So Jeanie, you have this pain in you right little finger (we used to call
> it our (pinkey) Hum right little finger? Well so do i. But not my legs,
> hands and most of my bones BUT my left elbow and my neck really hurt but
> especially my left elbow but they have a right to. All of them except my
> left little finger. Do you know why? Well the little finger has my friend
> living inside of it. His name is Author Right-es   But the rest were
> severely broken when i broke my neck in three places along with my left
> elbow and had these metal plates, screws, nuts and matching bolt put inside
> of me. Can you imagine that nuts and bolts? Oh at times i have a pain in my
> butt but that doesn't really count.
>
> So maybe we should consider that we are getting older or you on TKI's or
> both of us having Arthritis?
>
> Who knows, but the fact that we are still alive are all migrating
> circumstances,
> don't you think... We can see we can pee we can hear, well for the most
> part for me anyway.
>
> We can walk we can talk can do most everything that we can do. Oh yea I
> almost forgot we can eat and drink. So let this be a lesson for us, right...
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 9
>
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:18 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Have you considered Moffitt cancer center. I go there and like it. You go
>> to the blood center and get your blood checked and then in about an hour
>> they are faxed over to doctor and you see him. I go every three months.
>> I was wonder if any of you have your bones aching?  My right little
>> finger and hand ache and legs hurt sometimes at night. I've been fighting
>> cml for almost 14 years and never had this. Blood counts are all good.
>> Thanks all.
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Listen Greenie,
>>
>> This is what i do because of a promise that i once made to GOD. Let me
>> tell you about this.
>> When i was about to receive my total body radiation almost 30 years ago,
>>
>>  just before they were about to close and lock that radiation chamber
>> door i got down on my knees clasped my hands in front of me and prayed to
>> GOD asking HIM if he would spare me i would help people that were in my
>> situation that i would try to help them. So far i have helped 1,286 people
>> in the past 30 years, and wrote my journal about each and every one of
>> them. This will never be published because of confidentiality reasons, but
>> on occasion i will send some of them parts of my book in order to try and
>> help them.
>>
>> Listen i am no saint just a plain human being but someone that once made
>> a promise to GOD and i am still here after many many death defying things
>> that i have gone trough. And that is why i do what i promised to do. I hope
>> that you understand why i do what i do...
>>
>> There is also why i write 18's when ever i end any posts that i make,
>> because that is what i believe. 18's to me represents LIFE.
>>
>> If you care to send me your personal email address i would like to send
>> you something. Mine is wa2yyx@gmail,com
>>
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Marty, I want to thank you for your fast reply, I hear you.  I do have a
>>> Nephrologist and he had me get some blood work last month and he seems to
>>> be O.K. with the results.  I do have the paper work and will scan it and
>>> send it out so you can check it out.  I want to thank you so much, you have
>>> made me feel so much better and I will listen to what you wrote me.  Again
>>> I want to thank you.
>>>
>>> Greenie
>>>
>>> In a message dated 12/21/2017 11:31:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hi Greenie,
>>>
>>> First of all, you mention that you are worried. Why may i ask are you so
>>> worried? When pe

Re: [CMLHope] Questions,

Don't be silly Greenie,

Besides, my wife may have the last say if the toilet seat stays up or down

On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sorry Marty, I guess my fingers are just to fast for my keyboard.  I can't
> see what I'm saying cuss my eye's are in the way.
>
> greenie
>
> In a message dated 12/23/2017 10:55:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Mary, you got that right.
>
> greenie
>
> Oh Greenie,
>
> Now look at what a day difference makes? All of a sudden you changed my
> "orientation" from Marty which i always thought that i had and now to Mary?
> I am kind of confused because I still pee the same. Did you leave out the T
> on purpose or are you trying to tell me something?
>
> Now a lesson for everyone to learn... Did you know that the woman is the
> stronger of our spices? For one, and I know this for a fact because their
> Bone Marrow is usually stronger then the male's is? Take for example a Cord
> Blood Transplant is taken from the woman's umbilical cord right after the
> fetus is born then cryogenic-ally frozen for future use, and can last up to
> 40 years while it is frozen. I happen to know Stephan Sprauge who had one
> and wrote a book on it including the benefits.  https://www.youtube
> .com/watch?v=TEPzUdeS7gM
>
> This is a changing world and it will be changing even more when people
> become aware of the different things that will come up in the near future.
> I happen to know Steve and he has done something extraordinary...
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
> Attachments area
> Preview YouTube video Stephen Sprague
> [image: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEPzUdeS7gM=0]
> [image: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEPzUdeS7gM=0]
> Stephen Sprague
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEPzUdeS7gM=0>
>
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mary, you got that right.
>>
>> greenie
>>
>> Oh Greenie,
>>
>> Now look at what a day difference makes? All of a sudden you changed my
>> "orientation" from Marty which i always thought that i had and now to Mary?
>> I am kind of confused because I still pee the same. Did you leave out the T
>> on purpose or are you trying to tell me something?
>>
>> Now a lesson for everyone to learn... Did you know that the woman is the
>> stronger of our spices? For one, and I know this for a fact because their
>> Bone Marrow is usually stronger then the male's is? Take for example a Cord
>> Blood Transplant is taken from the woman's umbilical cord right after the
>> fetus is born then cryogenic-ally frozen for future use, and can last up to
>> 40 years while it is frozen. I happen to know Stephan Sprauge who had one
>> and wrote a book on it including the benefits.  https://www.youtube
>> .com/watch?v=TEPzUdeS7gM
>>
>> This is a changing world and it will be changing even more when people
>> become aware of the different things that will come up in the near future.
>> I happen to know Steve and he has done something extraordinary...
>>
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mary, you got that right.
>>>
>>> greenie
>>>
>>> In a message dated 12/22/2017 4:47:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hey, we got a Jeanie, and we got a Greenie in here. Life doesn't get
>>> better.
>>>
>>> So Jeanie, you have this pain in you right little finger (we used to
>>> call it our (pinkey) Hum right little finger? Well so do i. But not my
>>> legs, hands and most of my bones BUT my left elbow and my neck really hurt
>>> but especially my left elbow but they have a right to. All of them except
>>> my left little finger. Do you know why? Well the little finger has my
>>> friend living inside of it. His name is Author Right-es   But the rest were
>>> severely broken when i broke my neck in three places along with my left
>>> elbow and had these metal plates, screws, nuts and matching bolt put inside
>>> of me. Can you imagine that nuts and bolts? Oh at times i have a pain in my
>>> butt but that doesn't really count.
>>>
>>> So maybe we should consider that we are getting older or you on TKI's or
>>> both of us having Arthritis?
>>>
>>> Who knows, but the fact that we are still alive are all migrating
>>> circumstances,
>>> don't yo

Re: [CMLHope] Questions,

Mary, you got that right.

greenie

Oh Greenie,

Now look at what a day difference makes? All of a sudden you changed my
"orientation" from Marty which i always thought that i had and now to Mary?
I am kind of confused because I still pee the same. Did you leave out the T
on purpose or are you trying to tell me something?

Now a lesson for everyone to learn... Did you know that the woman is the
stronger of our spices? For one, and I know this for a fact because their
Bone Marrow is usually stronger then the male's is? Take for example a Cord
Blood Transplant is taken from the woman's umbilical cord right after the
fetus is born then cryogenic-ally frozen for future use, and can last up to
40 years while it is frozen. I happen to know Stephan Sprauge who had one
and wrote a book on it including the benefits.  https://www.youtube
.com/watch?v=TEPzUdeS7gM

This is a changing world and it will be changing even more when people
become aware of the different things that will come up in the near future.
I happen to know Steve and he has done something extraordinary...

18's,

Marty
Attachments area
Preview YouTube video Stephen Sprague
Stephen Sprague
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEPzUdeS7gM=0>

On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> Mary, you got that right.
>
> greenie
>
> Oh Greenie,
>
> Now look at what a day difference makes? All of a sudden you changed my
> "orientation" from Marty which i always thought that i had and now to Mary?
> I am kind of confused because I still pee the same. Did you leave out the T
> on purpose or are you trying to tell me something?
>
> Now a lesson for everyone to learn... Did you know that the woman is the
> stronger of our spices? For one, and I know this for a fact because their
> Bone Marrow is usually stronger then the male's is? Take for example a Cord
> Blood Transplant is taken from the woman's umbilical cord right after the
> fetus is born then cryogenic-ally frozen for future use, and can last up to
> 40 years while it is frozen. I happen to know Stephan Sprauge who had one
> and wrote a book on it including the benefits.  https://www.youtube
> .com/watch?v=TEPzUdeS7gM
>
> This is a changing world and it will be changing even more when people
> become aware of the different things that will come up in the near future.
> I happen to know Steve and he has done something extraordinary...
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Mary, you got that right.
>>
>> greenie
>>
>> In a message dated 12/22/2017 4:47:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Hey, we got a Jeanie, and we got a Greenie in here. Life doesn't get
>> better.
>>
>> So Jeanie, you have this pain in you right little finger (we used to call
>> it our (pinkey) Hum right little finger? Well so do i. But not my legs,
>> hands and most of my bones BUT my left elbow and my neck really hurt but
>> especially my left elbow but they have a right to. All of them except my
>> left little finger. Do you know why? Well the little finger has my friend
>> living inside of it. His name is Author Right-es   But the rest were
>> severely broken when i broke my neck in three places along with my left
>> elbow and had these metal plates, screws, nuts and matching bolt put inside
>> of me. Can you imagine that nuts and bolts? Oh at times i have a pain in my
>> butt but that doesn't really count.
>>
>> So maybe we should consider that we are getting older or you on TKI's or
>> both of us having Arthritis?
>>
>> Who knows, but the fact that we are still alive are all migrating
>> circumstances,
>> don't you think... We can see we can pee we can hear, well for the most
>> part for me anyway.
>>
>> We can walk we can talk can do most everything that we can do. Oh yea I
>> almost forgot we can eat and drink. So let this be a lesson for us, right...
>>
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 9
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:18 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Have you considered Moffitt cancer center. I go there and like it. You
>>> go to the blood center and get your blood checked and then in about an hour
>>> they are faxed over to doctor and you see him. I go every three months.
>>> I was wonder if any of you have your bones aching?  My right little
>>> finger and hand ache and legs hurt sometimes at nigh

Re: [CMLHope] Questions,

Mary, you got that right.

greenie

Oh Greenie,

Now look at what a day difference makes? All of a sudden you changed my
"orientation" from Marty which i always thought that i had and now to Mary?
I am kind of confused because I still pee the same. Did you leave out the T
on purpose or are you trying to tell me something?

Now a lesson for everyone to learn... Did you know that the woman is the
stronger of our spices? For one, and I know this for a fact because their
Bone Marrow is usually stronger then the male's is? Take for example a Cord
Blood Transplant is taken from the woman's umbilical cord right after the
fetus is born then cryogenic-ally frozen for future use, and can last up to
40 years while it is frozen. I happen to know Stephan Sprauge who had one
and wrote a book on it including the benefits.  https://www.
youtube.com/watch?v=TEPzUdeS7gM

This is a changing world and it will be changing even more when people
become aware of the different things that will come up in the near future.
I happen to know Steve and he has done something extraordinary...

18's,

Marty

On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Mary, you got that right.
>
> greenie
>
> In a message dated 12/22/2017 4:47:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Hey, we got a Jeanie, and we got a Greenie in here. Life doesn't get
> better.
>
> So Jeanie, you have this pain in you right little finger (we used to call
> it our (pinkey) Hum right little finger? Well so do i. But not my legs,
> hands and most of my bones BUT my left elbow and my neck really hurt but
> especially my left elbow but they have a right to. All of them except my
> left little finger. Do you know why? Well the little finger has my friend
> living inside of it. His name is Author Right-es   But the rest were
> severely broken when i broke my neck in three places along with my left
> elbow and had these metal plates, screws, nuts and matching bolt put inside
> of me. Can you imagine that nuts and bolts? Oh at times i have a pain in my
> butt but that doesn't really count.
>
> So maybe we should consider that we are getting older or you on TKI's or
> both of us having Arthritis?
>
> Who knows, but the fact that we are still alive are all migrating
> circumstances,
> don't you think... We can see we can pee we can hear, well for the most
> part for me anyway.
>
> We can walk we can talk can do most everything that we can do. Oh yea I
> almost forgot we can eat and drink. So let this be a lesson for us, right...
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 9
>
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:18 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Have you considered Moffitt cancer center. I go there and like it. You go
>> to the blood center and get your blood checked and then in about an hour
>> they are faxed over to doctor and you see him. I go every three months.
>> I was wonder if any of you have your bones aching?  My right little
>> finger and hand ache and legs hurt sometimes at night. I've been fighting
>> cml for almost 14 years and never had this. Blood counts are all good.
>> Thanks all.
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Listen Greenie,
>>
>> This is what i do because of a promise that i once made to GOD. Let me
>> tell you about this.
>> When i was about to receive my total body radiation almost 30 years ago,
>>
>>  just before they were about to close and lock that radiation chamber
>> door i got down on my knees clasped my hands in front of me and prayed to
>> GOD asking HIM if he would spare me i would help people that were in my
>> situation that i would try to help them. So far i have helped 1,286 people
>> in the past 30 years, and wrote my journal about each and every one of
>> them. This will never be published because of confidentiality reasons, but
>> on occasion i will send some of them parts of my book in order to try and
>> help them.
>>
>> Listen i am no saint just a plain human being but someone that once made
>> a promise to GOD and i am still here after many many death defying things
>> that i have gone trough. And that is why i do what i promised to do. I hope
>> that you understand why i do what i do...
>>
>> There is al

Re: [CMLHope] Questions,

Hey, we got a Jeanie, and we got a Greenie in here. Life doesn't get
better.

So Jeanie, you have this pain in you right little finger (we used to call
it our (pinkey) Hum right little finger? Well so do i. But not my legs,
hands and most of my bones BUT my left elbow and my neck really hurt but
especially my left elbow but they have a right to. All of them except my
left little finger. Do you know why? Well the little finger has my friend
living inside of it. His name is Author Right-es   But the rest were
severely broken when i broke my neck in three places along with my left
elbow and had these metal plates, screws, nuts and matching bolt put inside
of me. Can you imagine that nuts and bolts? Oh at times i have a pain in my
butt but that doesn't really count.

So maybe we should consider that we are getting older or you on TKI's or
both of us having Arthritis?

Who knows, but the fact that we are still alive are all migrating
circumstances,
don't you think... We can see we can pee we can hear, well for the most
part for me anyway.

We can walk we can talk can do most everything that we can do. Oh yea I
almost forgot we can eat and drink. So let this be a lesson for us, right...

18's,

Marty












9

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:18 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Have you considered Moffitt cancer center. I go there and like it. You go
> to the blood center and get your blood checked and then in about an hour
> they are faxed over to doctor and you see him. I go every three months.
> I was wonder if any of you have your bones aching?  My right little finger
> and hand ache and legs hurt sometimes at night. I've been fighting cml for
> almost 14 years and never had this. Blood counts are all good. Thanks all.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Listen Greenie,
>
> This is what i do because of a promise that i once made to GOD. Let me
> tell you about this.
> When i was about to receive my total body radiation almost 30 years ago,
>
>  just before they were about to close and lock that radiation chamber door
> i got down on my knees clasped my hands in front of me and prayed to GOD
> asking HIM if he would spare me i would help people that were in my
> situation that i would try to help them. So far i have helped 1,286 people
> in the past 30 years, and wrote my journal about each and every one of
> them. This will never be published because of confidentiality reasons, but
> on occasion i will send some of them parts of my book in order to try and
> help them.
>
> Listen i am no saint just a plain human being but someone that once made a
> promise to GOD and i am still here after many many death defying things
> that i have gone trough. And that is why i do what i promised to do. I hope
> that you understand why i do what i do...
>
> There is also why i write 18's when ever i end any posts that i make,
> because that is what i believe. 18's to me represents LIFE.
>
> If you care to send me your personal email address i would like to send
> you something. Mine is wa2yyx@gmail,com
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Marty, I want to thank you for your fast reply, I hear you.  I do have a
>> Nephrologist and he had me get some blood work last month and he seems to
>> be O.K. with the results.  I do have the paper work and will scan it and
>> send it out so you can check it out.  I want to thank you so much, you have
>> made me feel so much better and I will listen to what you wrote me.  Again
>> I want to thank you.
>>
>> Greenie
>>
>> In a message dated 12/21/2017 11:31:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Hi Greenie,
>>
>> First of all, you mention that you are worried. Why may i ask are you so
>> worried? When people worry about things that they have little or no control
>> over then it not only effects your mind but also your body. I know all
>> about this because that is exactly what i used to do and i learned to
>> direct my mind in more productive ways. Now just try to relax and get
>> yourself going in the right direction.
>>
>> Now you mention about CRI so read this..
>>
>> *CRI* (color rendering index) is a measure of how accurately a light
>> source illuminates objects' true colors. Our LED lights have *CRI* values
>> of up to 98, indicating that our LE

Re: [CMLHope] anemia

Hi Ana,

It's not so much the question of changing one of her TKI's, from Bosutinib
to Bosutinib after being on Gleevec for fourteen years. Since there a lot
of things that you and your mother need to consider like her age, her
general health like the low Hemoglobin and Red Cell Blood counts which you
didn't include in your email, and one important thing how are her kidneys?
What her Creatinine level are right now? And has she had a CBC (Complete
Blood Count lately? Also if she did what were the results? You already know
but what were they actually? Can you specify what these counts were or
are??

One other thing, is his or her doctor, i assume that he or she is a
qualified Oncologist? And are any of their specialties for-instance is CML?
Also how many mg of Gleevec is she taking and for how long? I know that you
mentioned that it was for the past 14 years, but has she ever taken a
"vacation" from it, and if so did she have any effects of it reappearing ?
Has she been tested for ABL/PCR lately and what were her results?

Finally, has your mother seen a Nephroloigst lately? All of these questions
are very important and before any doctor/s makes any decisions about
changing any of her TKI's you have to know exactly what these answers are
before anyone can give you any advise.

I will leave you with this advice:
Please don't let any of this intimidate you or your mother because you
have the right to ask questions and those that you have requested
them from have the oblation to answer them.

If you get the chance would you kindly let me know about my answers
from me to you.

I don't recall if i ever have spoken to you before. So just so you know i
always
end any of my posts with 18's which means LIFE.

18's,

Marty

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ana,
>
> It's not so much the question of changing one of her TKI's, from Bosutinib
> to Bosutinib after being on Gleevec for fourteen years. Since there a lot
> of things that you and your mother need to consider like her age, her
> general health like the low Hemoglobin and Red Cell Blood counts which you
> didn't include in your email, and one important thing how are her kidneys?
> What her Creatinine level are right now? And has she had a CBC (Complete
> Blood Count lately? Also if she did what were the results? You already know
> but what were they actually? Can you specify what these counts were or
> are??
>
> One other thing, is his or her doctor, i assume that he or she is a
> qualified Oncologist? And are any of their specialties for-instance is CML?
> Also how many mg of Gleevec is she taking and for how long? Has she been
> tested you for ABL/PCR lately and what were her results were her results?
>
> Finally, has your mother seen a Nephroloigst lately? All of these
> questions are very important and before any doctor/s makes any
> decisions about changing any of her TKI's you have to know exactly what
> these answers are before anyone can give you any advise.
>
> I will leave you with this advice:
> Please don't let any of this intimidate you or your mother because you
> have the right to ask questions and those that you have requested
> them from have the oblation to answer them.
>
> If you get the chance would you kindly let me know about my answers
> from me to you.
>
> I don't recall if i ever have spoken to you before. So just so you know i
> always
> end any of my posts with 18's which means LIFE.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Ana Burgos <anab...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> my mum is suffering from very low hemoglobine and very low iron.
>>
>> any of you happen the same?
>>
>> another question is what do you think about bosutinib, after 14 years in
>> gleevec the doc. is thinking of changing to bosutinib
>>
>> what about side effects comparing it to gleevec?
>>
>>
>> thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [CMLHope] anemia

Hi Ana,

It's not so much the question of changing one of her TKI's, from Bosutinib
to Bosutinib after being on Gleevec for fourteen years. Since there a lot
of things that you and your mother need to consider like her age, her
general health like the low Hemoglobin and Red Cell Blood counts which you
didn't include in your email, and one important thing how are her kidneys?
What her Creatinine level are right now? And has she had a CBC (Complete
Blood Count lately? Also if she did what were the results? You already know
but what were they actually? Can you specify what these counts were or
are??

One other thing, is his or her doctor, i assume that he or she is a
qualified Oncologist? And are any of their specialties for-instance is CML?
Also how many mg of Gleevec is she taking and for how long? Has she been
tested you for ABL/PCR lately and what were her results were her results?

Finally, has your mother seen a Nephroloigst lately? All of these questions
are very important and before any doctor/s makes any decisions about
changing any of her TKI's you have to know exactly what these answers are
before anyone can give you any advise.

I will leave you with this advice:
Please don't let any of this intimidate you or your mother because you
have the right to ask questions and those that you have requested
them from have the oblation to answer them.

If you get the chance would you kindly let me know about my answers
from me to you.

I don't recall if i ever have spoken to you before. So just so you know i
always
end any of my posts with 18's which means LIFE.

18's,

Marty






On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Ana Burgos  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> my mum is suffering from very low hemoglobine and very low iron.
>
> any of you happen the same?
>
> another question is what do you think about bosutinib, after 14 years in
> gleevec the doc. is thinking of changing to bosutinib
>
> what about side effects comparing it to gleevec?
>
>
> thanks in advance
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [CMLHope] CCI12222017.pdf

Well, there you have it. MMR  MAJOR MOLECULAR RESPONSE those three magical
words. 

18's

Marty

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
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Re: [CMLHope] Questions,

Listen Greenie,

This is what i do because of a promise that i once made to GOD. Let me tell
you about this.
When i was about to receive my total body radiation almost 30 years ago,

 just before they were about to close and lock that radiation chamber door
i got down on my knees clasped my hands in front of me and prayed to GOD
asking HIM if he would spare me i would help people that were in my
situation that i would try to help them. So far i have helped 1,286 people
in the past 30 years, and wrote my journal about each and every one of
them. This will never be published because of confidentiality reasons, but
on occasion i will send some of them parts of my book in order to try and
help them.

Listen i am no saint just a plain human being but someone that once made a
promise to GOD and i am still here after many many death defying things
that i have gone trough. And that is why i do what i promised to do. I hope
that you understand why i do what i do...

There is also why i write 18's when ever i end any posts that i make,
because that is what i believe. 18's to me represents LIFE.

If you care to send me your personal email address i would like to send you
something. Mine is wa2yyx@gmail,com

18's,

Marty

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Marty, I want to thank you for your fast reply, I hear you.  I do have a
> Nephrologist and he had me get some blood work last month and he seems to
> be O.K. with the results.  I do have the paper work and will scan it and
> send it out so you can check it out.  I want to thank you so much, you have
> made me feel so much better and I will listen to what you wrote me.  Again
> I want to thank you.
>
> Greenie
>
> In a message dated 12/21/2017 11:31:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Hi Greenie,
>
> First of all, you mention that you are worried. Why may i ask are you so
> worried? When people worry about things that they have little or no control
> over then it not only effects your mind but also your body. I know all
> about this because that is exactly what i used to do and i learned to
> direct my mind in more productive ways. Now just try to relax and get
> yourself going in the right direction.
>
> Now you mention about CRI so read this..
>
> *CRI* (color rendering index) is a measure of how accurately a light
> source illuminates objects' true colors. Our LED lights have *CRI* values
> of up to 98, indicating that our LED lights are able to produce white light
> that approximates halogen or incandescent lighting and natural daylight.
>
> It however has some effect on your kidneys because if they are having
> problems than it is a very simple thing to just go to a Nephrologist and
> see what is happening and why.
>
> As you mentioned the normal Hemoglobin count for women should be from
> around 13 to 17 however not necessarily for men because men don't have
> their time of the month as woman do, so men require a bit less of
> Hemoglobin.
>
> Now a count of 10.7 shows that you are enemic and that can from a verity
> of different things. One being the effects from your TKI being Gleevic
> which i think may be the cause, now mind you I am not a doctor but someone
> that does a lot of research into things that i have already been through.
>
> Another thing would be kidney problems which i kind of doubt because your
> doctors haven't mentioned it. Do you know what your
>
> *Levels* of *creatinine* in the blood reflect both the amount of muscle a
> person has and their amount of kidney function. Most men with normal kidney
> function have approximately 0.6 to 1.2 milligrams/deciliters (mg/dL) of
> *creatinine*. Most women with normal kidney function have between 0.5 to
> 1.1 mg/dL of *creatinine*..
>
> My Creatinine level was 8.2 before i started on my dialysis and i had to
> go onto dialysis which lasted for four years. Then i was able to get a
> kidney transplant from a 20 year old deceased  man who was anonymous, and
> about two weeks later it dropped down to 4.1 and kept dropping to where it
> is now at .8 and it now stays there. Remember, i have only one kidney
> while  most other people have two kidneys so i know that having only one
> kidney is doing very well for me, and no more dialysis for me anymore.
>
> What you did mention is that your counts are now at   "My white count is find
> at 5.8).  Iron was 88 (50-212), Iron binding capacity was 281 (250 - 450)". 
> Which
> are quite acceptable and very good for you.
>
> And speaking about your kidneys let me give you some information. When my
> kidneys started to fail i noticed that my Hemoglobin also was dropping
> especially after i began to receive dialysis. They were at 14 then would
> gradually drop to being 9.9 and that was the magic bullet that triggered
> that i would be able to start receiving Procrit or Epogin injections which
> brought my Hemoglobin to usually 11 and it would take about a week. Then a
> few weeks 

Re: [CMLHope] Questions,

Hi Greenie,

First of all, you mention that you are worried. Why may i ask are you so
worried? When people worry about things that they have little or no control
over then it not only effects your mind but also your body. I know all
about this because that is exactly what i used to do and i learned to
direct my mind in more productive ways. Now just try to relax and get
yourself going in the right direction.

Now you mention about CRI so read this..

*CRI* (color rendering index) is a measure of how accurately a light source
illuminates objects' true colors. Our LED lights have *CRI* values of up to
98, indicating that our LED lights are able to produce white light that
approximates halogen or incandescent lighting and natural daylight.

It however has some effect on your kidneys because if they are having
problems than it is a very simple thing to just go to a Nephrologist and
see what is happening and why.

As you mentioned the normal Hemoglobin count for women should be from
around 13 to 17 however not necessarily for men because men don't have
their time of the month as woman do, so men require a bit less of
Hemoglobin.

Now a count of 10.7 shows that you are enemic and that can from a verity of
different things. One being the effects from your TKI being Gleevic which i
think may be the cause, now mind you I am not a doctor but someone that
does a lot of research into things that i have already been through.

Another thing would be kidney problems which i kind of doubt because your
doctors haven't mentioned it. Do you know what your

*Levels* of *creatinine* in the blood reflect both the amount of muscle a
person has and their amount of kidney function. Most men with normal kidney
function have approximately 0.6 to 1.2 milligrams/deciliters (mg/dL) of
*creatinine*. Most women with normal kidney function have between 0.5 to
1.1 mg/dL of *creatinine*..

My Creatinine level was 8.2 before i started on my dialysis and i had to go
onto dialysis which lasted for four years. Then i was able to get a kidney
transplant from a 20 year old deceased  man who was anonymous, and about
two weeks later it dropped down to 4.1 and kept dropping to where it is now
at .8 and it now stays there. Remember, i have only one kidney while  most
other people have two kidneys so i know that having only one kidney is
doing very well for me, and no more dialysis for me anymore.

What you did mention is that your counts are now at   "My white count is find
at 5.8).  Iron was 88 (50-212), Iron binding capacity was 281 (250 -
450)". Which
are quite acceptable and very good for you.

And speaking about your kidneys let me give you some information. When my
kidneys started to fail i noticed that my Hemoglobin also was dropping
especially after i began to receive dialysis. They were at 14 then would
gradually drop to being 9.9 and that was the magic bullet that triggered
that i would be able to start receiving Procrit or Epogin injections which
brought my Hemoglobin to usually 11 and it would take about a week. Then a
few weeks later another shot and so on. The reason why is that your kidneys
produce a *hormone that is sent to your bone marrow that stimulates Red
Blood cells into your bone marrow.
**Erythropoietin* (*EPO*) is a hormone produced by the kidney that promotes
the formation of red blood cells by the bone marrow. The kidney cells that
make *erythropoietin* are sensitive to low oxygen levels in the blood that
travels through the kidney.

This is what happened to me so i know what i am talking about. Ever since i
received my kidney transplant about two and a half years ago my Hemoglobin
has gotten to be around 14

Now i am not saying that you have any problems with your kidneys but i am
puzzled why did your doctor mention about CRI?  As I mentioned why not go
to see a Nephrologist . Couldn't hurt.

Another suggestion that you have already mentioned, and because you have a
smart doctor looking after you why spend over $600 to fly to Chicago when
you have loads of very fine doctors in Florida especially in your area?

Now I have given you a lot of useful information and hopefully it will help
you and do you know why? It's because i was there and had to go through all
of this and i learned what i had to do, and besides your worth it! Yes you
are. Just as was my friend Lottie. She did a lot of research as well in her
time which i never forgot... In fact so did Zavie,

Now finally, since AOL is going out then you already did the right thing by
switching over to another (FREE, I love that four letter F letter word)
internet provider. You also may want to get another F word like gmail just
in case as a backup.

Please, please Greenie try to stop worrying, just take it one day at a
time. You know it will all work out.

18's,

Marty

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> To all of my CML friends and care givers.
>
> I took a flight to Chicago Dec. 6th to see my cancer Doctor get 

[CMLHope] FABULOUS VIDEO OF THE YEAR !

I am sending this to all of my friends, relatives, neighbors and all that
helped me and those that i helped wishing each one of you a wonderful,
healthy, happy and safe holiday season.

Marty Gartenberg and family.

FABULOUS VIDEO OF THE YEAR ! IT'S JUST WONDERFUL ! SHORT AND TO THE POINT!

Scenes and Wonderful Words OF WISDOM.

 Click below:
 INTERVIEW WITH GOD
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Re: [CMLHope] My Mushroom and Barley Soup

Hi Joyce,

I haven't hears anything back from you concerning the soup. Were you able
to make it?

If you did then how did it come out?

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Joyce,
>
> I actually called Schnucks grocery store cooperate office and asked if
> they sell leasa vegetable mix, and the person actually went on the internet
> and saw a picture of it. He told me that he doesn't remember it but that he
> will find out and give me a return call. So i will wait until i hear back
> from him.
>
> Joyce, don't worry about it one way or another you will be able to get it
> or a substitute as well. If i could mail it to you i would but it is kept
> in the refrigerated area of the supermarkets, so that won't work.  And yes
> Joyce, it is that important to me. It's like someone eating a crunchy sour
> or dill pickle behind you, your mouth starts to water.螺
>
> Until then keep those bones frozen.
>
> See i do have a sense of humor, but in structured ways.
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much, Marty.  I now have a clear idea of what I need for
>> this delicious soup.  We don’t have Publix but I think I can find all of
>> these items at our Schnucks grocery store.  Bet you never heard of that
>> one.  We do have a Walmart nearby.  I bought the soup marrow bones today
>> and put them in the freezer until I get all the other ingredients.
>>
>>   Joyce in Southern Illinois
>>
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joyce,
>>
>> Soup greens and soup beans are two different things. First check out the
>> vegetable with mushroom
>>
>> Manischewitz soup mix. It comes in a cellophane round wrapper whit the
>> bag of spices included in the bag. Walmart sells it for less then $2.00 if
>> you buy it in the store.
>>
>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Manischewitz-Vegetable-With-Mushr
>> ooms-Soup-Mix-6-oz/30867716?wmlspartner=wlpa=22
>> 70==g=c=42423897272=pla-
>> 51320962143=9012041pla=8175035
>> =online=30867716==sem
>>
>> When you see the picture please notice that little plastic bag inside of
>> it and look closely at the package.
>>
>> The other ingredients are Leasa soup mix. Picture shown below Try your
>> local supermarket or any other outlet, and it doesn't have to be the Leasa
>> brand. I don't know if there are any Publix supermarkets around you? But
>> they sell it.
>>
>> Also Leasa vegetable mix 
>>
>>
>> ENJOY!
>>
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:11 AM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you so much, Marty.  I am going to make this as soon as I can get
>>> all the ingredients together.  I have never seen a package of soup greens.
>>> Is that something that you find readily in your stores?  Are there any
>>> actual greens in it?  Or just onion, turnip (did you mean turnip greens or
>>> just a few turnips)?  Sounds like it might be harder to find all the
>>> ingredients than to make the soup.  I’ll also have to research the soup
>>> marrow bones.  Don’t know where to find them either.  we have what they
>>> call backbones.  Is that the same?
>>> Thank you so much for your help.  This sounds like a really healthy dish
>>> as well.
>>>   Joyce in Southern Illinois
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Joyce,
>>>
>>> Yes I am glad to be back at home. Now I will pass on the recipe for my
>>> mushroom and barley soup.
>>>
>>> Everything listed here is for about 5 quarts. First get a quart of
>>> Swanson beef broth 32 ounces but I usually make my own but it is very time
>>> consuming so just plain beef broth will do. Add it to a pot, usually a 5 or
>>> 6 quart pot will do.
>>>
>>> During it's cooking you will need to add more water because it will
>>> start thickening. Add more water once it is needed because you don't want
>>> it to thicken to quickly. Before you start make sure you have all of the
>>> ingredients handy.
>>>
>>> A carrot, several stalks of celery, but wait there is still more...Make
>>> sure that before you start everything that you have a fresh package of soup
>>> greens that contain an onion, turnip,

Re: [CMLHope] Email change

Greenie,

We are all outstanding, we just have to open up our eyes to see it.
Remember we all have our different problems but it is the ways that we must
deal with them. Life is a learning process.

18's

Marty

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Marty, you are outstanding.
>
> greenie
>
> In a message dated 11/28/2017 11:46:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Susan, no it doesn't mean that you should be expecting a message from AOL
> is means that you should expecting a message from GOD wishing you well. 
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:35 AM, 'Susan' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Does this mean I should be expecting a message from AOL soon?
>>
>> Hugs,
>> Susan Rosenthal
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 4:17 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes I'm afraid they will lose s lot of customers with so many free.
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2017, at 5:45 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, I'll give it a try.  I don't understand something to do with
>> AIM.
>>
>> greenie
>>
>> In a message dated 11/25/2017 4:15:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
>>
>> DG:
>>
>> I'm telling you this doesn't make any sense.  Call them up and complain.
>> We've had AOL since it first began service.
>>
>> Hugs,
>> Susan Rosenthal
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> It may be free but not my email as of the 15th of Dec.
>>
>> dg
>>
>> In a message dated 11/25/2017 2:40:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
>>
>> Greenie and others:
>>
>> AOL is freewhat are you guys talking about?  We just pay $4.99 a
>> month to receive live support.
>>
>> Hugs,
>> Susan Rosenthal
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2017, at 2:31 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I saw that Greenie. Makes me mad. I paid years ago and could never find
>> any company I liked better. They are still letting me use this email and
>> you can use email free.
>> I'll note that.  Thanks.
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2017, at 7:38 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> As of December 5th I will no longer be using AOL.  They have gone up to
>> $30.00 per month and Comcast is free for me so my new email address will be
>>
>> (myvet...@comcast.net)
>>
>> Thanks to everyone,
>>
>> David (greenie) Greenberg
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] My Mushroom and Barley Soup

Joyce,

I actually called Schnucks grocery store cooperate office and asked if they
sell leasa vegetable mix, and the person actually went on the internet and
saw a picture of it. He told me that he doesn't remember it but that he
will find out and give me a return call. So i will wait until i hear back
from him.

Joyce, don't worry about it one way or another you will be able to get it
or a substitute as well. If i could mail it to you i would but it is kept
in the refrigerated area of the supermarkets, so that won't work.  And yes
Joyce, it is that important to me. It's like someone eating a crunchy sour
or dill pickle behind you, your mouth starts to water.螺

Until then keep those bones frozen.

See i do have a sense of humor, but in structured ways.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:

> Thank you very much, Marty.  I now have a clear idea of what I need for
> this delicious soup.  We don’t have Publix but I think I can find all of
> these items at our Schnucks grocery store.  Bet you never heard of that
> one.  We do have a Walmart nearby.  I bought the soup marrow bones today
> and put them in the freezer until I get all the other ingredients.
>
>   Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Joyce,
>
> Soup greens and soup beans are two different things. First check out the
> vegetable with mushroom
>
> Manischewitz soup mix. It comes in a cellophane round wrapper whit the bag
> of spices included in the bag. Walmart sells it for less then $2.00 if you
> buy it in the store.
>
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Manischewitz-Vegetable-With-Mushr
> ooms-Soup-Mix-6-oz/30867716?wmlspartner=wlpa=
> 2270==g=c=42423897272=
> pla-51320962143=9012041pla=
> 8175035=online=30867716==sem
>
> When you see the picture please notice that little plastic bag inside of
> it and look closely at the package.
>
> The other ingredients are Leasa soup mix. Picture shown below Try your
> local supermarket or any other outlet, and it doesn't have to be the Leasa
> brand. I don't know if there are any Publix supermarkets around you? But
> they sell it.
>
> Also Leasa vegetable mix 
>
>
> ENJOY!
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:11 AM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:
>
>> Thank you so much, Marty.  I am going to make this as soon as I can get
>> all the ingredients together.  I have never seen a package of soup greens.
>> Is that something that you find readily in your stores?  Are there any
>> actual greens in it?  Or just onion, turnip (did you mean turnip greens or
>> just a few turnips)?  Sounds like it might be harder to find all the
>> ingredients than to make the soup.  I’ll also have to research the soup
>> marrow bones.  Don’t know where to find them either.  we have what they
>> call backbones.  Is that the same?
>> Thank you so much for your help.  This sounds like a really healthy dish
>> as well.
>>   Joyce in Southern Illinois
>>
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joyce,
>>
>> Yes I am glad to be back at home. Now I will pass on the recipe for my
>> mushroom and barley soup.
>>
>> Everything listed here is for about 5 quarts. First get a quart of
>> Swanson beef broth 32 ounces but I usually make my own but it is very time
>> consuming so just plain beef broth will do. Add it to a pot, usually a 5 or
>> 6 quart pot will do.
>>
>> During it's cooking you will need to add more water because it will start
>> thickening. Add more water once it is needed because you don't want it to
>> thicken to quickly. Before you start make sure you have all of the
>> ingredients handy.
>>
>> A carrot, several stalks of celery, but wait there is still more...Make
>> sure that before you start everything that you have a fresh package of soup
>> greens that contain an onion, turnip, white radish and a few more things
>> including some dill and parsley. All of which must be chopped into small
>> squares. This step is important because all of these really enhance the
>> soup flavor.
>>
>> Plenty more to go... A packet of soup beans that contain inside of it a
>> small cellophane package of a powder that is the key all of this delicious
>> flavor. Now add all of this to the pot and add about two cups of water and
>> let it simmer on low heat a lid covering it almost to the point of boiling
>> but don't let it because everything about this soup is it's flavor and
>> aroma.
>&g

Re: [CMLHope] Hospital for Thanksgiving.

Beth, a great hug to you for trying to help Richard out. You can plainly
see what advocates we are to each other and how much we care for each
other. Thank you. 

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:38 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Dear Richard,
>
> So sorry to hear about your troubles with your kidneys...These powerful
> drugs have affected many of us in many ways, including kidney function. I
> am hopeful that you will make a complete recovery and with proper and
> thoughtful care, you will be better very soon. You have been through a
> great deal already..you will get through this. I will keep you in my
> prayers..Take extra good care of yourself and remember to advocate for
> yourself, ask questions, and be sure they do not give you something to
> fight an infection that can cause ore problems for other organs. it's a
> delicate balance and we must all be our own advocates...Your body is strong
> and so are you...you can do this believe in you!
>
> Keep us posted...this is another bump on a long journey...
>
> take good care..
>
> much love and 18's Beth
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
> To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 28, 2017 9:08 am
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Hospital for Thanksgiving.
>
> Richard,
>
> First and most important is what kind of doctor you went to??? Was he or
> she a Nephrologist?
> As you know they are the ones that specialize with kidneys. If that doctor
> is not then i urge
> you to follow up with one.
>
> From what i know having a sever infection will most probably effect your
> kidneys, but it is usually
> reversible. A lot of antibiotics will also do the same.
>
> In fact I know all about it because i had to have a kidney transplant but
> not for the same reason.
> Almost 29 years ago i had CML and subsequently a BMT which caused my to
> undergo total body
> radiation and huge amounts of chemotherapy. Then about twenty years later
> my kidneys failed
> and then for four years, dialysis then a kidney transplant.
>
> Now mind you Richard this should not happen to you but for my own
> circumstances it did happen
> to me. Now guess what? I was just released from the hospital because of a
> severe sepsis infection.
>
> Because of my knowledge when some of the IV antibiotics were offered to me
> one of which was
> Vancomycin because of my condition. Don't get me wrong  Vancomycin is a
> very good antibiotic
> and i have used it many times, i even had to use it by myself during home
> care and i would sit there
> with an IV pole for a couple of hours under that home care nurse, but for
> the most part i did it by myself.
>
> Trust my i know what i am talking about and there are always some good
> things and also some bad things
> but the bottom line is that i am still alive and functional.
>
> Hey, I have been through the "ringer" but then so have most of you as
> well, and that bottom line also exists
> for everyone that may be reading this.
>
> You just have to know how to ask questions, try getting to the best
> doctors that you can, and be an advocate
> for yourself. You would really be surprised for yourself how it works.
>
> I have spent many, many hours on this because i have an obligation that i
> once made and i try living up to it.
>
> Now have you wondered why i end my communications with 18's? Well now you
> do, it is my obligation.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Richard H <rbhuffm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well riding the tide just didn't work out.  I was having problems Sunday
> the ninteenth with kisneys & such.  Monday Morning all fluids stopped.  My
> Son was in and watched over me and when I did not recover on Tuesday he
> took me to Doctor for testing and results sent me to hospital.  We still
> have not found the current problem with Kidneys, but did have a severe
> infection.  I am slowly recovering and back at home.  I have Cronic Kidney
> desiease beaacuse of TOO Many Powerful drugs.  This is the first flair up
> and everything the Drs. want to hear just aren't there for them to work
> with.  Seems like I am always a speciman for them to stand and scratch
> their chin and always say "I've never seen anything like that!"
>
> 18's
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[CMLHope] Re: My Mushroom and Barley Soup

Just another thing to talk about.

Ever notice that when your not feeling well most of the time when you eat

something that is hot and soothing you start feeling better? Well this is
what it is all about. And for me it was

always fresh hot soup.

Going back to when i had my BMT and living in a sterile bubble for many
months with out having any access

to any solid food of any kind but only being fed by an intervenes

line  using a type of nourishment called TPN. However i never felt hungry
because my bowels shut down.

and throughout the following months i was always lightheaded and always
feeling disoriented.

Then when i was finally able to leave i had some home prepared

hot food and like magic i was feeling that this was the first time that i
had eaten.

It is amazing at what a good hot meal can do for you. Always try to eat the
best that you can...

18's

Marty

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Joyce,
>
> Yes I am glad to be back at home. Now I will pass on the recipe for my
> mushroom and barley soup.
>
> Everything listed here is for about 5 quarts. First get a quart of
> Swanson beef broth 32 ounces but I usually make my own but it is very time
> consuming so just plain beef broth will do. Add it to a pot, usually a 5 or
> 6 quart pot will do.
>
> During it's cooking you will need to add more water because it will start
> thickening. Add more water once it is needed because you don't want it to
> thicken to quickly. Before you start make sure you have all of the
> ingredients handy.
>
> A carrot, several stalks of celery, but wait there is still more...Make
> sure that before you start everything that you have a fresh package of soup
> greens that contain an onion, turnip, white radish and a few more things
> including some dill and parsley. All of which must be chopped into small
> squares. This step is important because all of these really enhance the
> soup flavor.
>
> Plenty more to go... A packet of soup beans that contain inside of it a
> small cellophane package of a powder that is the key all of this delicious
> flavor. Now add all of this to the pot and add about two cups of water and
> let it simmer on low heat a lid covering it almost to the point of boiling
> but don't let it because everything about this soup is it's flavor and
> aroma.
>
> Now add in a medium package of baby lima beans and a lot of fresh sliced
> white mushrooms about 8 ounces or more depending on how much soup your
> making. now let gently boil being careful to not over cook it, and
> always suture it as you see fit.
>
> Finally the few ingredients. Take the cubed meat and cut it into little
> pieces about half of the package and place it into the pot. Please remember
> that the pot will usually be almost filled so just to be sure to have
> another soup pot available because there is something that are soup marrow
> bones and may take up more room.
>
> Toss them in and bring it to a gentle boil again. Then when the marrow in
> the bones become soft usually about an hour or more, scoop It out and put
> it back into the pot, and throw out the bones. from the soup pot
> .
> Almost done... Remember the Barley? Try to get pearl barley but any other
> will do. Add about half a bag into the pot and remember you then must stir
> the pot often on moderate heat to make sure the Barley does not burn but
> make sure it is done because it will clump up and mess up your soup.
>
> Last things are salt, pepper, onion powder and garlic powder but never add
> pieces of garlic because it may over power the soup add some paprika and if
> you want a small amount of thyme but no basil leaves.
>
> Just remember to keep the cover on the pot until it boils down and you
> will need to add some water, but always try to stir as you see fit
>
> Don't rush the soup, you will know when it is done. I guaranty you will
> really enjoy this soup because it can be eaten as a soup or as a meal.
>
> The more that you practice the better that you will get making this soup.
> Your taste buds and mouth will smile with joy what you have made.
>
> All of this was given to my be my parents that were cooks. When our
> children came over to visit with their grandparents they would always get
> that mushroom and barley soup.
>
> I sincerely hope that you will try it and enjoy it. Any questions ?
>
> If you decide to try it then would you let me know?
>
> Try to remember this, when you are happy then so is your body. When you
> then try something new that you have never tried before you open up your
> mind...
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [CMLHope] Email change

Susan, no it doesn't mean that you should be expecting a message from AOL
is means that you should expecting a message from GOD wishing you well. 

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:35 AM, 'Susan' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Does this mean I should be expecting a message from AOL soon?
>
> Hugs,
> Susan Rosenthal
>
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 4:17 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Yes I'm afraid they will lose s lot of customers with so many free.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Nov 26, 2017, at 5:45 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you, I'll give it a try.  I don't understand something to do with
> AIM.
>
> greenie
>
> In a message dated 11/25/2017 4:15:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
>
> DG:
>
> I'm telling you this doesn't make any sense.  Call them up and complain.
> We've had AOL since it first began service.
>
> Hugs,
> Susan Rosenthal
>
> On Nov 25, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> It may be free but not my email as of the 15th of Dec.
>
> dg
>
> In a message dated 11/25/2017 2:40:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
>
> Greenie and others:
>
> AOL is freewhat are you guys talking about?  We just pay $4.99 a month
> to receive live support.
>
> Hugs,
> Susan Rosenthal
>
> On Nov 25, 2017, at 2:31 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I saw that Greenie. Makes me mad. I paid years ago and could never find
> any company I liked better. They are still letting me use this email and
> you can use email free.
> I'll note that.  Thanks.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Nov 25, 2017, at 7:38 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> As of December 5th I will no longer be using AOL.  They have gone up to
> $30.00 per month and Comcast is free for me so my new email address will be
>
> (myvet...@comcast.net)
>
> Thanks to everyone,
>
> David (greenie) Greenberg
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[CMLHope] My Mushroom and Barley Soup

Hi Joyce,

Yes I am glad to be back at home. Now I will pass on the recipe for my
mushroom and barley soup.

Everything listed here is for about 5 quarts. First get a quart of
Swanson beef broth 32 ounces but I usually make my own but it is very time
consuming so just plain beef broth will do. Add it to a pot, usually a 5 or
6 quart pot will do.

During it's cooking you will need to add more water because it will start
thickening. Add more water once it is needed because you don't want it to
thicken to quickly. Before you start make sure you have all of the
ingredients handy.

A carrot, several stalks of celery, but wait there is still more...Make
sure that before you start everything that you have a fresh package of soup
greens that contain an onion, turnip, white radish and a few more things
including some dill and parsley. All of which must be chopped into small
squares. This step is important because all of these really enhance the
soup flavor.

Plenty more to go... A packet of soup beans that contain inside of it a
small cellophane package of a powder that is the key all of this delicious
flavor. Now add all of this to the pot and add about two cups of water and
let it simmer on low heat a lid covering it almost to the point of boiling
but don't let it because everything about this soup is it's flavor and
aroma.

Now add in a medium package of baby lima beans and a lot of fresh sliced
white mushrooms about 8 ounces or more depending on how much soup your
making. now let gently boil being careful to not over cook it, and
always suture it as you see fit.

Finally the few ingredients. Take the cubed meat and cut it into little
pieces about half of the package and place it into the pot. Please remember
that the pot will usually be almost filled so just to be sure to have
another soup pot available because there is something that are soup marrow
bones and may take up more room.

Toss them in and bring it to a gentle boil again. Then when the marrow in
the bones become soft usually about an hour or more, scoop It out and put
it back into the pot, and throw out the bones. from the soup pot
.
Almost done... Remember the Barley? Try to get pearl barley but any other
will do. Add about half a bag into the pot and remember you then must stir
the pot often on moderate heat to make sure the Barley does not burn but
make sure it is done because it will clump up and mess up your soup.

Last things are salt, pepper, onion powder and garlic powder but never add
pieces of garlic because it may over power the soup add some paprika and if
you want a small amount of thyme but no basil leaves.

Just remember to keep the cover on the pot until it boils down and you will
need to add some water, but always try to stir as you see fit

Don't rush the soup, you will know when it is done. I guaranty you will
really enjoy this soup because it can be eaten as a soup or as a meal.

The more that you practice the better that you will get making this soup.
Your taste buds and mouth will smile with joy what you have made.

All of this was given to my be my parents that were cooks. When our
children came over to visit with their grandparents they would always get
that mushroom and barley soup.

I sincerely hope that you will try it and enjoy it. Any questions ?

If you decide to try it then would you let me know?

Try to remember this, when you are happy then so is your body. When you
then try something new that you have never tried before you open up your
mind...

18's,

Marty

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Re: [CMLHope] Well wishes

Hi everyone,

Just to let everyone know that I am back from the hospital as of yesterday
afternoon. The infection is gone but i have to stay on oral antibiotics for
the next two weeks, a small price to pay i guess. In the past several weeks
i have heard so many others having to be hospitalized including some of my
neighbors and friends. Can't figure out what is going on lately but
hopefully this will not become any worse but better in the near future.

So as it stands the only after after-effects i am suffering with are some
vertigo and some small headaches but they are probably from the
antibiotics.

But when there is also something that comes down then there is always comes
something that comes good as well. Unfortunately i missed our traditional
Thanksgiving dinner but there is also a bright side. Just before i had to
go into the hospital i was lucky enough to make my delicious mushroom and
barley soup with meat cut up into small cubes and of course bone marrow
soup bones. It was only just before i started feeling ill. I usually make
about 10 or 12 quarts and freeze them for later use. This recipe was past
down to me by my parents who were both  master cooks in Europe.

Now when i was in the hospital my wife brought me some of this soup and at
least i was able to get away from this "hospital food" at least for the
time being.

If anyone wants the recipe then just let me know.

So you can see that there is more then just sitting back and feeling
miserable when you occupy yourself with things that make you more
productive in your live. I do this all of the time and it seems to always
help me.

Hot soup anyone?

18's,

Marty

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 2:05 AM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:

> Marty, so sorry to hear that you have been plunked down in the hospital.
> But you will beat those bad germs and be back out quickly.  I am praying
> for you.
> God bless and keep you.
>   Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2017, at 1:38 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> So sorry Marty. Prayers are being sent with lots of love.  You are the
> bravest and you will be home soon.
> How did you get the infection?
> Hope you get lots of good care.
> Sending you lots of love and holiday cheer
> 
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Nov 23, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Martin Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Unfortunately I am back in the hospital again I have a server infection in
> my left leg and I am on some Antibiotics now. I wish I could be home for
> the thanksgiving holiday but I just do whatever I have to do.
> Anyway I wish all of you a happy thanksgiving
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
>
>
> On November 23, 2017, at 2:49 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Warmest regards to you Susan and  have a lovely Thanksgiving holiday with
> your family..Laying low and cozy by the fire is lovely...I wish you better
> health and lots of joyful moments in the New Year ahead...
> Thanks for being here.
>
> Love to all on this Thankful holiday
> 18s Beth
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Wed, Nov 22, 2017 4:43 pm
> Subject: RE: [CMLHope] Well wishes
>
> Happy Thanksgiving to all! I pray you all are well enough to enjoy the
> holidays. Ours will be quiet and cozy by the fire. Turkey on the menu. So
> glad I am part of this awesome and loving group.
> Just got my numbers back from bcr/abl. It showed .45. Last time was .26.
> Not doing badly but was shocked when doc asked me if I wanted to go off
> med. (History of strokes caused by med.) First time she's asked me that!
> She does not recommend it, so I'll stay on awhile longer and then let my
> body rest. Toxins build up and cause stress on my blood spots in brain.
> 18's and Happy Thanksgiving
> Much love,
> Susan Z.
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> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> be changed to myvet...@comcast.net.
>
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Re: [CMLHope] Holiday Season!

Hi Richard,

That is good to hear. It seems that I have traveled along the same road
that you did. And in my travels I had to take both Mr. Procrit and at times
Mrs. Neupogen because of having a low amount of Uncle Hemoglobin which led
me to know the rest of my cousins Sleepy, Tired, Exhausted, Grumpy, and Mr.
General Out Of Breath.

Anyway that is how I felt when my kidneys, the twins failed, and in doing
so causes them to not being able to produce a specific Hormone that travels
to your bone marrow and populates it with Uncle Hemoglobin and you become
anemic just like some of my cousins if you don't take these shots. By the
way your protein levels also take a hit so you have to eat a lot more of
protein enhancers like red meat, fish, chicken, turkey and among other
thing eggs just to name a few.

Unfortunately it is just a vicious cycle that you have to deal with.
However you are "lucky" if that is the proper word to use because of your
reduction of Gleevec and still being PCRU. Now your system is actually
getting back to itself. So yes, maybe that "Lucky" word IS the proper word
to use.

Now you also indicate in one of your sentences that, "I am currently just
traveling along this  slowly(HA!) older path".

Now as you have written the word (HA!) it shows me that you have a seance
of humor in your life, and that is why I have introduced you to some of my
"family members" I have learned in my life several things: Your mind
controls your body and some may not agree with me on this but it sure does
for me. And secondly, when your smiling your not crying. In fact my kidney
surgeon told me one time "Always smile" and he was right excepting when
someone that is close to you passes on, then it is that exception.

In any event Richard I am very happy that your doing so well 

You have a great day.

18's,

Marty


On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Richard H  wrote:

> I wish everyone a Happy Holiday season.
>
> I am currently just traveling along this slowly(HA!) getting older path.
> My CML is staying undetectable and by dropping Gleevec to 200mg per day has
> helped me reduce my Procrit shots to check on it every 2 weeks.
>
> 18's
>
> Richard H.
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Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help

Hi Beth,

Yes I have already tried it, and even added a sweeter to it but it just was
so tart and very bitter tasting that i couldn't use it any more I'm sure it
must be me because ever since i had my BMT with all of the radiation and
chemotherapy my taste buds  are never the same.

Come to think of it, one of the only things that taste the same is cherry
Snapple. Even Bryers cherry vanilla ice cream. However since my wife won't
buy that because of the sugar content i settle for Bryers cherry yougert
with little chocolate chips in it... Yummy! [image: Inline image 1]

So maybe you might think that i am weird, well i guess that i am, at least
for the time being.

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:19 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Marty,
>
> I am talking about straight cranberry juice, knudsons organic 100%
> cranberry. no sugars, nothing but cranberries not from concentrate. you
> have to dilute it, it's tart, no sugar added...since you use one ounce with
> 8 to 10 ounces of water , it's only 1gram of sugar per drink..so it won't
> hurt the diabetes at all!!! Some people add stevia...I like it tart
>
> 18's and goodnight!!  Beth
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
> To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 31, 2017 7:24 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help
>
> Wow, wow Beth, just look at you, and I have only one thing to say...
>
> Well, maybe one more thing to say... Now i remember I had a kidney
> transplant and they don't want to screw around with that.
>
> And your right about drinking Cranberry juice and that is usually the only
> juice i drink, but ever so often i drink V-8 juice.
>
> I am diabetic so i try to use light cranberry juice.. Less sugar but not
> always depending on which brand i use. Read the labels on the side of the
> container but sometimes they are also full of
> cr=p (=a)  
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 7:15 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jeannie,
>
> I have had the contrast dye with an MRI on three occasions.I have had many
> MRI"s without contrast. The gadolinium dye is most commonly used. It is
> different than contrast dye used in CT scans. I had no ill side effects
> from the dye personally. Just a taste of metallc when it was put in
> through the IV. I was told to drink lots of water and water diluted with
> straight cranberry juice, ( 8 oz water to 1 ox cranberry juice) to flush
> the dye through my kidneys and out of my system. So I drank a lot the next
> 24 hours. Especially right after the test. If you have significant kidney
> function issues be sure to raise this with your doc before the test. People
> are far less likely to have allergic reaction to this compound, as opposed
> to contrast dye used in Ct scans. Still, if you have lots of allergies, and
> are worried, they can prep you with benadryl and or prednizone to ensure no
> problems. Whatever your questions and concerns, voice them!!!
>
> MRI's are ordered with and without contrast all the time. It just depends
> on where and what they are looking for or trying to see, whether they can
> truly get a  full view without the contrast. Depending upon the answers to
> the above questions, some times docs will feel like they can get a good
> enough look without the dye. Others will feel strongly that the MRI would
> be a waste if there was no contrast used. It depends on many factors.
> Please express your concerns to your doctors ahead of time. If you have a
> scheduled MRI with contrast and you go in and refuse contrast, they usually
> will not perform the MRI as that was not the test that was specifically
> ordered by the doc. So express your concerns and fears to your doc and get
> your questions answered before proceeding.
>
> Good luck my friend.
>
> Take good care
> 18's Beth
>
> Still looking Marty...I remember who you are talking about. I feel so
> frustrated because I have "chemo brain" pretty significantly and I just
> cannot pull names up ...but I am still trying!!
> B
>
> .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 31, 2017 5:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help
>
> Hi Marty
> I am having a mrcp next week.
> What a wonderful caring man you are. I will pray that you think of his
> name. Sometimes things just pop into our minds. Keep our prayer circle
> going amazing group.
> I was wondering if any of you have had the mrcp(mri) with the contrast
> dye.  I don't want the dye but don't know if they will do 

Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help

Wow, wow Beth, just look at you, and I have only one thing to say...

Well, maybe one more thing to say... Now i remember I had a kidney
transplant and they don't want to screw around with that.

And your right about drinking Cranberry juice and that is usually the only
juice i drink, but ever so often i drink V-8 juice.

I am diabetic so i try to use light cranberry juice.. Less sugar but not
always depending on which brand i use. Read the labels on the side of the
container but sometimes they are also full of
cr=p (=a)  

18's

Marty

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 7:15 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Dear Jeannie,
>
> I have had the contrast dye with an MRI on three occasions.I have had many
> MRI"s without contrast. The gadolinium dye is most commonly used. It is
> different than contrast dye used in CT scans. I had no ill side effects
> from the dye personally. Just a taste of metallc when it was put in
> through the IV. I was told to drink lots of water and water diluted with
> straight cranberry juice, ( 8 oz water to 1 ox cranberry juice) to flush
> the dye through my kidneys and out of my system. So I drank a lot the next
> 24 hours. Especially right after the test. If you have significant kidney
> function issues be sure to raise this with your doc before the test. People
> are far less likely to have allergic reaction to this compound, as opposed
> to contrast dye used in Ct scans. Still, if you have lots of allergies, and
> are worried, they can prep you with benadryl and or prednizone to ensure no
> problems. Whatever your questions and concerns, voice them!!!
>
> MRI's are ordered with and without contrast all the time. It just depends
> on where and what they are looking for or trying to see, whether they can
> truly get a  full view without the contrast. Depending upon the answers to
> the above questions, some times docs will feel like they can get a good
> enough look without the dye. Others will feel strongly that the MRI would
> be a waste if there was no contrast used. It depends on many factors.
> Please express your concerns to your doctors ahead of time. If you have a
> scheduled MRI with contrast and you go in and refuse contrast, they usually
> will not perform the MRI as that was not the test that was specifically
> ordered by the doc. So express your concerns and fears to your doc and get
> your questions answered before proceeding.
>
> Good luck my friend.
>
> Take good care
> 18's Beth
>
> Still looking Marty...I remember who you are talking about. I feel so
> frustrated because I have "chemo brain" pretty significantly and I just
> cannot pull names up ...but I am still trying!!
> B
>
> .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 31, 2017 5:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help
>
> Hi Marty
> I am having a mrcp next week.
> What a wonderful caring man you are. I will pray that you think of his
> name. Sometimes things just pop into our minds. Keep our prayer circle
> going amazing group.
> I was wondering if any of you have had the mrcp(mri) with the contrast
> dye.  I don't want the dye but don't know if they will do it without it.
> Any ideas anyone?  Thanks
> Jeanie
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeanie,
>
> Well this was about 20 years ago and at least 6 computers ago. Maybe
> someone else might be able to help.
>
> It is for a young man living in Israel who recently had a BMT not a stem
> cell transplant that is failing and i remembered about that procedure but
> can't find out anything new. As I said maybe someone can help save his life.
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:35 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> So sorry Marty don't remember it at all. Would it be on any of our old
> messages. You can search them on line.
> Happy Holidays all.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You all know me, and i have to ask all of you a favor especially some of
> the "old timers" of this group, like B

Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help

Hi Jeanie,

I have had several MRI's in the past. Once with the dye and it does show up
better then without the dye.

However i am no longer allowed to get any MRI's but only CAT scans because
of my pace maker and a lot of other things like when they removed my spleen
they used metal staples rather then sutures. Also i had broken my neck and
elbow and was on life support in a coma and had to have all sorts of
plates, nuts and bolts as well as pins and 2 inch screws into both my neck
and elbow.

If you ask your doctor if he can avoid the dye then so be it.
Now why are you having to get an MRI in the first place?

And that is why i can not take any MRI's Lucky me Huh?

Jeanie,
would you kindle pass along your personal email address and or your phone
number?

Mine is: wa2...@gmail.com

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 6:19 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Marty
> I am having a mrcp next week.
> What a wonderful caring man you are. I will pray that you think of his
> name. Sometimes things just pop into our minds. Keep our prayer circle
> going amazing group.
> I was wondering if any of you have had the mrcp(mri) with the contrast
> dye.  I don't want the dye but don't know if they will do it without it.
> Any ideas anyone?  Thanks
> Jeanie
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeanie,
>
> Well this was about 20 years ago and at least 6 computers ago. Maybe
> someone else might be able to help.
>
> It is for a young man living in Israel who recently had a BMT not a stem
> cell transplant that is failing and i remembered about that procedure but
> can't find out anything new. As I said maybe someone can help save his life.
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:35 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> So sorry Marty don't remember it at all. Would it be on any of our old
>> messages. You can search them on line.
>> Happy Holidays all.
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You all know me, and i have to ask all of you a favor especially some of
>> the "old timers" of this group, like Bobby Dole, Zavie's Zero Club member
>> 840 or Susan Zimmerman and anyone that knew Zavie Miller going back about
>> twenty years ago. I wish that Zavie were still alive but i know that he
>> would have remembered.
>>
>> I know of a man that had a BMT recently and he was doing well because his
>> HLA match was perfect and his BMT was an Allogeneic transplant. Yes, from
>> what I understand this man may either be relapsing or rejecting his BMT.
>>
>> At the time of my "travels" i heard of a man who did have an Allogeneic
>> transplant (BMT) and relapsed, however he was given from his original donor
>> some of their Lymphocytes and he compleatly recovered.
>>
>> My dilemma is I just can't remember who he was. So please if anyone can
>> remember then i kindly ask that if anyone does remember then please get in
>> touch with me. Also please spread my request to anyone from any other
>> groups.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> 18's
>>
>> Marty, Zavie's Zero club member 1
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help

Hi Susan,

You already know me and I am always trying to help other people. I recently
met a 36 year old man who had a bone marrow transplant in Israel and it is
starting to fail to so i am pulling out everything that i can think about,
hopefully it may help him..

18's

Marty

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 3:04 PM, 'Susan Zimmerman' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sorry, don't think I ever heard this man's name.  God bless you Marty, and
> all are in my prayers.
> Don't anybody wear themselves out on Thanksgiving.  Keep away from today's
> goblins, they may spook you!
>
> "Look among the nations and watch; be utterly astounded!  For I will work
> a work in your days which you would not believe, though it were told you."
>  Hab. 1:5  We are very near a cure!  Going to Northwestern tomorrow for my
> 3 month testing.  So happy for you, Beth!
>
> Give thanks,
> Susan Z
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bkbarney via CMLHope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 30, 2017 9:50 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help
>
> I don't remember Marty, but I will look back in our past group
> conversations. If it's anything saved, I will forward it to you. Hope all
> is well with everyone. My
> BCR results came back stable!  A blessing!!! Dr. Druker is referring me to
> a colleague of his that specializes in some of my side effect issues so I
> am very grateful! The new doc is hard to get into, so it will be a few
> months, but hopefully he can help me.
>
> Much love to everyone.
> Thanks. Beth
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 30, 2017 5:35 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help
>
> So sorry Marty don't remember it at all. Would it be on any of our old
> messages. You can search them on line.
> Happy Holidays all.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You all know me, and i have to ask all of you a favor especially some of
> the "old timers" of this group, like Bobby Dole, Zavie's Zero Club member
> 840 or Susan Zimmerman and anyone that knew Zavie Miller going back about
> twenty years ago. I wish that Zavie were still alive but i know that he
> would have remembered.
>
> I know of a man that had a BMT recently and he was doing well because his
> HLA match was perfect and his BMT was an Allogeneic transplant. Yes, from
> what I understand this man may either be relapsing or rejecting his BMT.
>
> At the time of my "travels" i heard of a man who did have an Allogeneic
> transplant (BMT) and relapsed, however he was given from his original donor
> some of their Lymphocytes and he compleatly recovered.
>
> My dilemma is I just can't remember who he was. So please if anyone can
> remember then i kindly ask that if anyone does remember then please get in
> touch with me. Also please spread my request to anyone from any other
> groups.
>
> Thank you.
>
> 18's
>
> Marty, Zavie's Zero club member 1
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Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help

Hey Beth great BCR results came back stable. Good news!

Yes Beth i will be waiting

18's

Marty

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:50 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I don't remember Marty, but I will look back in our past group
> conversations. If it's anything saved, I will forward it to you. Hope all
> is well with everyone. My
> BCR results came back stable!  A blessing!!! Dr. Druker is referring me to
> a colleague of his that specializes in some of my side effect issues so I
> am very grateful! The new doc is hard to get into, so it will be a few
> months, but hopefully he can help me.
>
> Much love to everyone.
> Thanks. Beth
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 30, 2017 5:35 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Please I need your help
>
> So sorry Marty don't remember it at all. Would it be on any of our old
> messages. You can search them on line.
> Happy Holidays all.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You all know me, and i have to ask all of you a favor especially some of
> the "old timers" of this group, like Bobby Dole, Zavie's Zero Club member
> 840 or Susan Zimmerman and anyone that knew Zavie Miller going back about
> twenty years ago. I wish that Zavie were still alive but i know that he
> would have remembered.
>
> I know of a man that had a BMT recently and he was doing well because his
> HLA match was perfect and his BMT was an Allogeneic transplant. Yes, from
> what I understand this man may either be relapsing or rejecting his BMT.
>
> At the time of my "travels" i heard of a man who did have an Allogeneic
> transplant (BMT) and relapsed, however he was given from his original donor
> some of their Lymphocytes and he compleatly recovered.
>
> My dilemma is I just can't remember who he was. So please if anyone can
> remember then i kindly ask that if anyone does remember then please get in
> touch with me. Also please spread my request to anyone from any other
> groups.
>
> Thank you.
>
> 18's
>
> Marty, Zavie's Zero club member 1
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Hi Jeanie,

Well this was about 20 years ago and at least 6 computers ago. Maybe
someone else might be able to help.

It is for a young man living in Israel who recently had a BMT not a stem
cell transplant that is failing and i remembered about that procedure but
can't find out anything new. As I said maybe someone can help save his life.

18's

Marty

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:35 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> So sorry Marty don't remember it at all. Would it be on any of our old
> messages. You can search them on line.
> Happy Holidays all.
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> 18's
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You all know me, and i have to ask all of you a favor especially some of
> the "old timers" of this group, like Bobby Dole, Zavie's Zero Club member
> 840 or Susan Zimmerman and anyone that knew Zavie Miller going back about
> twenty years ago. I wish that Zavie were still alive but i know that he
> would have remembered.
>
> I know of a man that had a BMT recently and he was doing well because his
> HLA match was perfect and his BMT was an Allogeneic transplant. Yes, from
> what I understand this man may either be relapsing or rejecting his BMT.
>
> At the time of my "travels" i heard of a man who did have an Allogeneic
> transplant (BMT) and relapsed, however he was given from his original donor
> some of their Lymphocytes and he compleatly recovered.
>
> My dilemma is I just can't remember who he was. So please if anyone can
> remember then i kindly ask that if anyone does remember then please get in
> touch with me. Also please spread my request to anyone from any other
> groups.
>
> Thank you.
>
> 18's
>
> Marty, Zavie's Zero club member 1
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[CMLHope] Please I need your help

You all know me, and i have to ask all of you a favor especially some of
the "old timers" of this group, like Bobby Dole, Zavie's Zero Club member
840 or Susan Zimmerman and anyone that knew Zavie Miller going back about
twenty years ago. I wish that Zavie were still alive but i know that he
would have remembered.

I know of a man that had a BMT recently and he was doing well because his
HLA match was perfect and his BMT was an Allogeneic transplant. Yes, from
what I understand this man may either be relapsing or rejecting his BMT.

At the time of my "travels" i heard of a man who did have an Allogeneic
transplant (BMT) and relapsed, however he was given from his original donor
some of their Lymphocytes and he compleatly recovered.

My dilemma is I just can't remember who he was. So please if anyone can
remember then i kindly ask that if anyone does remember then please get in
touch with me. Also please spread my request to anyone from any other
groups.

Thank you.

18's

Marty, Zavie's Zero club member 1

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