Re: [slim] Wife won't use it...
For almost a year, I couldn't get my technophobe wife to use the Squeezebox either ... which was very frustrating for me, as my primary objective when I purchased our Squeezeboxes and ripped all my CDs was to get her to stop stacking hundreds of my CDs (sans the cases!) on the mantle ... until I installed Moose (http://www.rusticrhino.com/drlovegrove/) on her laptop. Now, with a simple, easy to use, intuitive and attractive interface, no more CDs stacked on the mantle! -- Jon Jon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2848 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wife won't use it...
It took my wife about 2 years to get comfortable with using SB3, mostly from lack of trying. I think once my 9, 8 and 6 year-olds were well adept at finding and playing music, she felt a little silly at not being able to. My advice...borrow some known child and teach them in 10 minutes. -- pm314 pm314's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3749 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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4mula1;203725 Wrote: I did it to keep her collection from polluting mine and make her stop referring to the Squeezebox as your Squeezebox. Actually it just came up again (before she stormed out), and one of the things she mentioned was needing a radio upstairs so she can listen to her music. She also wants the TV, since I NEVER turn it on, but that's beside the point. When you say 'her slimserver', does that mean I need two machines? -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wife won't use it...
pm314;204172 Wrote: It took my wife about 2 years to get comfortable with using SB3, mostly from lack of trying. I think once my 9, 8 and 6 year-olds were well adept at finding and playing music, she felt a little silly at not being able to. My advice...borrow some known child and teach them in 10 minutes. LOL ... I tried that first, my 8 year old was quite adept at operating the Squeezebox, which didn't make my wife feel silly, she would just ask him to operate the Squeezebox for her :-) -- Jon Jon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2848 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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My $2,000 transporter failed a week after buying it. Now the browse button does not work and it just says Now Playing... and never is playing anything. Turning on and off didn't help... guess I have to call customer support. But lets face it... SlimDevices have a lot to learn from apple... -- EurJpy EurJpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11636 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Skunk;202766 Wrote: Unfortunately I just broke some bad news to the HiFi; The GF is moving in next week. I told her she can't add her music to my server and she responded 'i would never ask to add anything to your squeezebox'. Until my iTunes loving wife started buying from the iTMS I had setup on my Solaris box a seperate zone running SlimServer just for her. I saved on overhead by using the MySQL running in the global zone for both my SlimServer and her SlimServer. I had to buy an NFS server for Windows (this saved my butt last weekend when I crippled Solaris and needed to backup my music) to make the network share. I just told her SlimServer to use iTunes and pointed it to the shared folder and everything was cool. I showed her how to change from my SlimServer to hers and she enjoyed it. Until the m4ps arrived. You may want to think about setting up something for her like that. I did it to keep her collection from polluting mine and make her stop referring to the Squeezebox as your Squeezebox. -- 4mula1 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Skunk;202766 Wrote: she did and even managed to increase volume So far my wife has only found the volume down controls, at least when it's my music playing! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR 859, Living Voice Auditorium II plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wife won't use it...
Hmmm, I do believe that there is a plugin that addresses that 'issue' by slowly restoring the volume to its previous setting following such an intrusion! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of adamslim Sent: 22 May 2007 15:47 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: Re: [slim] Wife won't use it... Skunk;202766 Wrote: she did and even managed to increase volume So far my wife has only found the volume down controls, at least when it's my music playing! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+to p+artists) SB+, EAR 859, Living Voice Auditorium II plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wife won't use it...
I am assuming your SB actually works. I've never seen this with my own eyes, but I've heard from others that it is possible. The SB3 I ordered (and returned) was not responsive and very frustrating to use. Now if your SB3 seriously really works without failure, and you feel confident about its performance, sit her down and show her how it all works. It's not that hard. This is a question of your ability to communicate. Now, if your unit is anything like the one I had, I would keep friends and family away from it. On another note you may want to keep your CD's and CD player around and ready to use (even if your files are lossless). It just works. Let your wife have the best, not the most frustrating. Cheers, Disgruntled EX-SB3 Owner -- slimdemage slimdemage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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CatBus;202521 Wrote: Local language variation can be such a pain in the fanny ;) Or a pain in the bum ;) -- dSw dSw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=362 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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mflint;202520 Wrote: But thats probably because I'm British. Or drunk. Or both. :) I've noticed posting is a lot easier than reading the posts when drunk. Unfortunately I just broke some bad news to the HiFi; The GF is moving in next week. I told her she can't add her music to my server and she responded 'i would never ask to add anything to your squeezebox'. She does like music though, so yesterday I used the new wilco album (two thumbs down) as cheese to see if she could navigate the maze and get music playing, which she did and even managed to increase volume, through the web interface. The remote interface is a different story, where she keeps pressing 'right' until it doesn't do anything else, then puts the remote down. A 'start' buttton on the remote would be nice, or maybe I could paint the left arrow key green. That would just open a can of worms, because I'd have to figure out how to separate the collections and do the WAF skin I've been thinking about. Luckily she is the type who's willing to use a record player over discs, but suggested putting it in a large piece of resonant furniture with doors. Here we go :-) -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Bad news? The worst news by far is about the new Wilco album getting two thumbs down. That's really too bad. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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On 5/17/07, CatBus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad news? The worst news by far is about the new Wilco album getting two thumbs down. That's really too bad. It's excellent and will grow on you if you give it time (it's a classic pattern). It seems like albums that you love right away never seem to have the staying power that one might expect... Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Ben Sandee;202823 Wrote: On 5/17/07, CatBus CatBus.2qr21n1179442501 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com wrote: Bad news? The worst news by far is about the new Wilco album getting two thumbs down. That's really too bad. It's excellent and will grow on you if you give it time (it's a classic pattern). It seems like albums that you love right away never seem to have the staying power that one might expect... Ben Good points. I should have let it grow before spouting off. I heard 'Walken' live last year, so the familiarity already makes that one more likable. The Pitchforkmedia review I tagged to the FLACs probably didn't get me off on the right foot: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/42878-sky-blue-sky -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wife won't use it...
Fewer cables and untidy racks of CDs - happy woman! However - won't tolerate speaker stands (God have I tried) - so my bookshelf speakers are currently directing sound from the under mounted bass port straight into a wooden floor (although they are on short spikes). I can live with it but it's frustrating knowing how much better they could sound by raising them off the floor a tad. All that said - I doubt she would use it without me or the kids there - she did complain once that it wasn't working - I tried to point out helpfully that it was also necessary to turn the amp on - this was a mistake it appears. I should have just 'fixed' it quietly. Apparently men can be so patronising - as if? ;-) -- Andyb01 Wired squeezebox, WinXP SP2, SlimServer 6.5 v 2006-11-23, Player Firmware Version: 69 Andyb01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wife won't use it...
FWIW, my wife loves our SB3/Transporter. But I think it helps when pitching a new system to focus on things that absolutely cannot be duplicated with the existing system. Otherwise you end up focusing way too much on why method X is better than method Y for doing essentially the same dang thing, and you'll never win there. Internet radio--For whatever reason, we get terrible radio reception even though we live at the top of a hill. So no more staticky local radio. And want to listen to the BBC or other overseas radio? No problem, and sounds just like the local stations. Synchronization--Every house has a spot where the sound from your main stereo won't go. Just pop an SB3 in those locations, synchronize, and you're all set. Also works for the back yard. May not be as easy a sell if you've already got speaker runs to those locations, but in my case, we didn't. Where's that CD?--My wife is always bringing a few CDs to work or loaning them to friends (I can't relate to this--leaving them unattended gives me the willies). Then she wants to listen to them at home and can't. Now the whole collection is always available. There are some downsides. My wife and I both can't use a computer to listen to music. We're physically capable of it, but it seems like one is the antithesis of the other, so we just don't. So we use the remote interface, and browsing isn't as easy there. Not hard, just not as easy. So I can say as someone who LOVES his SB3/Transporter, the argument what's so hard about firing up a web browser? holds no weight with me. I don't want to be NEAR a computer when listening to music, let alone one that's turned on. The merits of the device are found elsewhere. Hope that helps. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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CatBus;202449 Wrote: leaving [CDs] unattended gives me the willies) That made me giggle like a girl, imagining international readers of this forum trying to make sense of it. But thats probably because I'm British. Or drunk. Or both. :) -- mflint 'Clicky-woo linky' (http://www.insignificant.org/wiki/index.php/Slim_Plugins) to web page of my plugins mflint's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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mflint;202520 Wrote: That made me giggle like a girl, imagining international readers of this forum trying to make sense of it. But thats probably because I'm British. Or drunk. Or both. :) Local language variation can be such a pain in the fanny ;) -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wife won't use it...
We're a long suffering bunch, aren't we... FWIW my fiancee was deeply suspicious of the SB3s I have lurking in the main stereo and in the bedroom, feeling sure they were nothing more than another of my toys. Two things swung her round: First was the weather screensaver which got her playing with the remote to see the 'forecast' (some would say 'guess') for the coming week. It's a great plugin, nice icons, and if you ignore weather.com's slightly dubious forecasts then it's perfect. She was won over when she realised now she could hear French radio stations, and even wake up to them. She has even mastered turning the whole thing on, even if the server isn't running, and perhaps even more surprising turning the whole thing off again, including the separate power amp, when done (rather than just turning stuff off until the noise stops then leaving the rest). -- hellesangel hellesangel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5658 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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maggior;195857 Wrote: I thought this was an interesting thread. I wonder how teenagers in the household react to the squeezebox? Do they think it is cool? Do they care how it works or how it is set up? Or would they rather use their iPod and iTunes off their computer? I am the proud, if somewhat cash-trapped, father of three kids, two of whom are teenagers. My 18-year old son uses SoftSqueeze on his PC to listen to Pandora and Rhapsody Direct. When his buddies are over, they'll happily do the same with the Squeezebox in the family room/home theatre. He's not a techie at all (his preference runs to football, lacrosse, and blondes). He'll just take the computer/SoftSqueeze setup off to college in the Fall. My 16-yr old daughter, when she's not sulking in her room with headphones on, will listen to the local country music radio station streamed via her computer. She's got no interest at all in the Squeezebox, which is good because her taste in music isn't shared with the rest of the family. The 5-year old is a gearhead-in-training. He's got using Harmony remotes down cold, and would be fine with the SB3 if he could read! He's always asking how things work, so I have a feeling he'll be the one most into the whole setup. My wife loves the SB3 and wants one in every room. I'm not installing speakers/amps every where, so she's out of luck. I did what I always do with technology I bring home; I set it up and told absolutely no one how it works. It's a really good litmus test to see what they figure out and what the don't ask me to take out. -- JimC JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wife won't use it...
My wife loves the squeezebox and uses it all of the time! My 3 year old daughter loves to listen to music, so it makes it really easy to put music on for her. She's not adventurous with it (i.e. doesn't bother with SqueezeNetwork or Internet Radio), but is perfectly comfortable using it. When I first suggested getting a Squeezebox, she asked how large it was, what it looked like, and where I would put it. She wasn't totally put off by the answers, but wasn't thrilled either. She doesn't like a wall of electronics as she puts it. During the discussion, it came up that daily use of CDs would become a thing of the past. Her and my daughter's ENTIRE music collection would be available with the remote. There would be no more clutter of CD jewel cases anywhere in the living areas. Then she was sold! I think we've used the CD player once since we got the squeezebox 4 months ago. I've since bought a 2nd squeezebox as well. The fact that she has an iPod I'm sure helped. That was an easy sell too you mean I don't have to carry around a pile of CDs in the car? Cool! The basic concept of browsing and playing music is the same. Now, if she had to deal with the dirty work of ripping CD along with encoding, organizing, and tagging tracks, she probably would not be bothered. It's not that she couldn't do it (she's certainly smart enough), she would have zero interest in it and would find it boring. As somebody else mentioned, it's important to hand off the remote, show where the power button is, assure that there is no danger of breaking anything that can't be fixed, and walk away. That's exactly how I figured out how to use it at first! Certainly packing away the CDs and forcing the issue isn't a good idea. I thought this was an interesting thread. I wonder how teenagers in the household react to the squeezebox? Do they think it is cool? Do they care how it works or how it is set up? Or would they rather use their iPod and iTunes off their computer? -- maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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shadowboxer;195588 Wrote: LOL!! My wife fell in love with SBs and runs it fine from the remote. When she gets a new cd, she doesn't even try to play it on the cd player, but asks can you put this in the squeezebox, please? So, I only have to put in each cd once for her. -daleExactly the same for me, luckily. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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My wife loves the SB3. She is not interested in what goes on behind the scene, and quite rightly so. All she wants is to enjoy the music. A couple of weekends ago the in-Laws visited. My Mother-in-Law is not interested in technology (being a technology widow), but loved the SB3. Curiously my Father-in-law didn't show any interest. I think the whole Linux thing turned him off, bit of a MS fan. Still I chip away at him, telling him to get into MythTV rather than XP media centre. So the result is. My will and so will the mother-in-law. Score two for SS! -- steve4586 steve4586's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7928 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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BigTony;195558 Wrote: When my partner wants to listen to a CD she always used to ask me to put it in and play it, so for her the SB3 is not a great leap forward in technology, her entire CD collection was always on-demand, and she only had to use an Audio remote too! BT LOL!! My wife fell in love with SBs and runs it fine from the remote. When she gets a new cd, she doesn't even try to play it on the cd player, but asks can you put this in the squeezebox, please? So, I only have to put in each cd once for her. -dale -- shadowboxer shadowboxer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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BigTony wrote: One thing we technophiles forget is that we invest many many hours in getting out new toys to do what we want, and we figure out how it all works from top to bottom. Which measn that when its all up and running everything is quite simple for us, and then with only a cursory 2 minute introduction (i.e. 'Press Amp On, Select Aux, Turn DAC on, Press SB3 on, Down Arrow, Right Arrow, Right arrow ...') how can we wonder why the rest of the universe just plonks a CD into the player! That's not my idea of high tech, but I solved that. Just press Power on the SB remote and everything is ready. You still have to navigate the menu to select a radiostation under Playlists (and press play) or select an Artist or Album to play. Not that hard, is it... My GF gets on well with the web interface though, all the stuff comes on automatically then as well. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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One thing we technophiles forget is that we invest many many hours in getting out new toys to do what we want, and we figure out how it all works from top to bottom. Which measn that when its all up and running everything is quite simple for us, and then with only a cursory 2 minute introduction (i.e. 'Press Amp On, Select Aux, Turn DAC on, Press SB3 on, Down Arrow, Right Arrow, Right arrow ...') how can we wonder why the rest of the universe just plonks a CD into the player! When my partner wants to listen to a CD she always used to ask me to put it in and play it, so for her the SB3 is not a great leap forward in technology, her entire CD collection was always on-demand, and she only had to use an Audio remote too! Anways I wanted the SB3, because I do all the cooking as well and I wanted music in the kitchen. Before you ask 'Why on earth did you put up with changing CD's for her ...' the answer is that she'd put in one CD and leave it on repeat, for days .. and days .. and there is only so much Sting you should be exposed too in one lifetime! BT -- BigTony We're Only In It For The Music! www.zappateers.com BigTony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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My wife made similar comments to those in this thread until...I changed the setting on Slimserver that enabled the SB3 to start playing as soon as it was powered on. I have it set-up on Random Play so that all she has to do is hit the power button on the remote and turn on the Amp. Now she loves it! -- Aztek Aztek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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ceejay;195229 Wrote: There are just so many layers in this thread its not true (no-one complaining about their husband's ability to use the box?!). adamslim;195231 Wrote: Not sure it's that kind of forum mate ;) I said my piece on this about six months back and don't propose to sound off again. However, this forum (like many others in the same area) has a level of background chatter which can be pretty offputting to the casual female browser and does (in my opinion) on occasions reinforce the idea that women can't do anything other than plug and play technology. See also the why my Squeezebox is not like my wife thread. I could perhaps join in and write about my boyfriend, however I wouldn't dream of posting about him (however gently and however much he would say the same thing about himself) in this kind of way on an internet message board. I can only suggest that those who feel their significant other doesn't get the Squeezebox, actually try handing over the remote and the web interface and then getting the hell out of the way for the next two hours - not hovering behind saying no, you don't do it like that or there's a quicker way to do that and with a solemn promise that no matter how broken it gets, you won't get upset. I suspect that might do a lot more for WAF (still hating that phrase, btw) than hiding the CDs... -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Here here Siduhe. Threads like this always make me a touch uncomfortable, appearing patronising... sort of her indoors and well, she tries and oh, the little wife... pat her on the head and get her back to the kitchen... a bit too blokey and 70s retrograde. MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Siduhe;195310 Wrote: However, this forum (like many others in the same area) has a level of background chatter which can be pretty offputting to the casual female browser and does (in my opinion) on occasions reinforce the idea that women can't do anything other than plug and play technology. Apologies if I have caused any offense - I made a rather crude joke thoughtlessly. Without wishing to generalise (while clearly doing so), I think it is fair to say that most audiophiles are men, and most computer geeks are men. Guys seem to be more prone to these diseases. Since the SB3 is an audiophile geek toy, I would be surprised if their customer base were not overwhelmingly male. So occasional laddishness is probably inevitable on the user forum. But this thread is valid: it's important to many of us that our other halves share our interests. If we can explain what our OHs like and dislike about the experience, it may help others to gain that acceptance. While perhaps the thread could have been titled differently, it does cover important ground. Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost and Anti-cables http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Adamslim, absolutely no offence taken here - and I agree that the underlying discussion in the thread is valid. My point is a slightly more subtle one, which is that it becomes a self-perpetuating cycle. Most audiophiles and computer geeks are men, so comments which have the effect of reinforcing that women are general unable to engage with the subject matter or are laddish are to be expected on occasions, which has the effect of putting off people who might otherwise contribute, which means that most of the contributing audiophiles and geeks remain men and so on... At one level it doesn't matter at all, because any self-confident person will just go right on ahead and contribute. However, would you think the range of comments as acceptable if the OP had said any tricks to get my [white/coloured/blonde/gay/one-legged] flatmates to use my SB? Those attributes aren't seen as a generally accepted barrier, so why should being female? I also certainly don't doubt the reality of what some people experience with their partners simply not being interested in technology. What I tend to think of as the interesting discussion is how we often end up in quite fixed roles within our relationships - he does the technology, she remembers the birthdays, and so on, which kind of excuse you from engaging too much in stuff that falls within the other's purview. And I think that women are as susceptible to this as men. I have a really good girlfriend who will come over to mine and use the SB with impunity to set up all kinds of playlists just how she wants it. Yet I've seen her at home say to her husband that she can't work out how to switch the TV onto AV input to play a DVD, when I know she's perfectly capable of working it out. That was kind of behind my comment that perhaps the best thing for the OP to do is let his signficant other run riot with the remote and the web interface, free from any concern about looking stupid if she can't immediately work something out or breaks it. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I agree with the sentiments re. cleaning down the menus to just the important stuff. Also, if you make changes (adding plugins etc.), ensure that you've thoroughly tested them before the next time your partner uses it. It can (understandably) be a complete pain if he/she goes to use something that was working fine yesterday, but now comes up with some weird error message (or does nothing). A response of Oh yeah - I was just tweaking this but it didn't quite work out how I planned can easily put someone off a gadget. -- SadGamerGeek SadGamerGeek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6145 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Siduhe wrote: ceejay;195229 Wrote: There are just so many layers in this thread its not true (no-one complaining about their husband's ability to use the box?!). adamslim;195231 Wrote: Not sure it's that kind of forum mate ;) I said my piece on this about six months back and don't propose to sound off again. However, this forum (like many others in the same area) has a level of background chatter which can be pretty offputting to the casual female browser and does (in my opinion) on occasions reinforce the idea that women can't do anything other than plug and play technology. See also the why my Squeezebox is not like my wife thread. I could perhaps join in and write about my boyfriend, however I wouldn't dream of posting about him (however gently and however much he would say the same thing about himself) in this kind of way on an internet message board. I can only suggest that those who feel their significant other doesn't get the Squeezebox, actually try handing over the remote and the web interface and then getting the hell out of the way for the next two hours - not hovering behind saying no, you don't do it like that or there's a quicker way to do that and with a solemn promise that no matter how broken it gets, you won't get upset. I suspect that might do a lot more for WAF (still hating that phrase, btw) than hiding the CDs... Well, Siduhe, stereotypes exist for a reason. They're most often true. I'm glad to hear you're the exception. I did have to smile when another poster mentioned his wife suddenly asking where that wonderful music was coming from. The men feeling frustrated because his wife doesn't share his interests is a stereotype too. Many men here seem to fall into this category. Sad, but is the wife or the man to blame? I'm quite lucky. My GF is moderately interested and likes the SB system as well as the linked MythTV, but even she forgets how to do things when she doesn't do them a lot, to my slight frustration. I think I put a wonderful system together and it's a little sad if other people can't use it. I wonder if we die, how many of our widows would keep the system running... Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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No offense to any females lurking here. It's not a bad thing that most females just don't care to fiddle with this sort stuff. Most of them worry about much more serious stuff (like are the kids eating good at school, the new boy friend the daughter is going out with etc. etc.). Anyway, my wife would never touch it even though she likes some of the music on the server. But she can handle putting on the Radio and TV when she wants to and we are both happy about that. For those struggling with a wife (or other) that can't use it easily you might check out a Sonos system. I've read extremely good reports on it (some from folks that have owned both). This is not to knock SlimDevices for money it's in a class by itself. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Peter;195397 Wrote: Siduhe wrote:[color=blue] I wonder if we die, how many of our widows would keep the system running... My wife has accepted the SS/SB wholeheartedly - but rejects the remote. Her stereo NAD/PSB is adjacent in the open office(SS) sitting area in the front of the house, the SB is connected to my stereo Bryston/energy in the TV lounge at the back of the house. She only asks of me to have the inputs on the go between pre-Amp to direct the signal to her stereo and she listens mainly while working at the PC. These rooms are on the 2nd level of the house - the kitchen/dining/sunroom on the first level all have inwall or ceiling speakers fed from one of the upstairs systems. So the audio side of things is fairly 'simple'. It is the lighting where she says if I should die first - if any of the X10 integrated alarm system/programs failed, she wouldn't even know where to begin. And the house would be unsellable. Also I can't get her to switch from IE to FireFox!! Darned thing makes a noise with every refresh! ~Allan the forgetfull mountainbiker. -- alZmtbr alZmtbr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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alZmtbr wrote: Peter;195397 Wrote: Siduhe wrote:[color=blue] I wonder if we die, how many of our widows would keep the system running... My wife has accepted the SS/SB wholeheartedly - but rejects the remote. Her stereo NAD/PSB is adjacent in the open office(SS) sitting area in the front of the house, the SB is connected to my stereo Bryston/energy in the TV lounge at the back of the house. She only asks of me to have the inputs on the go between pre-Amp to direct the signal to her stereo and she listens mainly while working at the PC. These rooms are on the 2nd level of the house - the kitchen/dining/sunroom on the first level all have inwall or ceiling speakers fed from one of the upstairs systems. So the audio side of things is fairly 'simple'. It is the lighting where she says if I should die first - if any of the X10 integrated alarm system/programs failed, she wouldn't even know where to begin. And the house would be unsellable. Also I can't get her to switch from IE to FireFox!! Darned thing makes a noise with every refresh! You can fix that in the Windows (control panel) audio settings. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I'm the last person to hold onto 1970's gender stereotypes, but perhaps if Slimdevices shipped an SB3 in a pretty pink the ladies would take to it? (Hey, it worked for the Zune!) -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Do any of you have this experience? -- i went to great lengths to set my SB3 up so that its easy to use because while i enjoy tinkering with the technology, i know my wife has zero patience for technology that is not intuitive and convenient. so here it is-- Slimserver runs off our kitchen machine that is always on, i have spent hours cleaning up and consolidating our music libraries so they are intuitive and finding steams for our favorite radio stations. and yetits inevitable that if she wants to listen to music, she goes and finds the CD, loads it in our CD changer-- or turns on the radio (inevitably changing the tuner configuration which i have to *gasp* manually change back when i want to use the squeezebox). I am contemplating ditching the cd changer-- its as obsolete as my turntable which is in the basement but i know that will not be well recieved by the wife. I am more amused than anything, but its made me curious about other's experience-- do you all find yourself fighting against ingrained habits in your house? any tricks (or amusing stories)? cheers JAC -- jacabo jacabo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10120 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Slimserver runs off our kitchen machine Hmm, how about a recipe database plug-in for the wives to consult when they're cooking? -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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amcluesent wrote: Slimserver runs off our kitchen machine Hmm, how about a recipe database plug-in for the wives to consult when they're cooking? Right, that's it. You do realize that keeping recipes is the first excuse that people invented as a use for home computers. From the start, people asked what can you do with it? and automating recipes was one of first answers. This was in 1975 or so, with the MITS/Altair machines. Things like spreadsheets, tax programs, etc. had not been dreamed of yet. I have some large number of computers in my house, 15 at one count a while ago, my wife has three she uses all the time, not counting the Slimserver for our SqueezeBoxen and Transporter. I write software for a living, my wife did for 20+ years. We do not keep recipes on a computer. 3x5 cards work great. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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No way. I nearly get called home from work if the silmserver breaks down for some reason! In your message you have not mentioned what she says when you ask her why she's not using it? My spouse uses the web interface almost exclusively. Maybe you should take a look at the cds recently played in the changer and create a playlist of them. -Chris On 4/15/07, jacabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do any of you have this experience? -- i went to great lengths to set my SB3 up so that its easy to use because while i enjoy tinkering with the technology, i know my wife has zero patience for technology that is not intuitive and convenient. so here it is-- Slimserver runs off our kitchen machine that is always on, i have spent hours cleaning up and consolidating our music libraries so they are intuitive and finding steams for our favorite radio stations. and yetits inevitable that if she wants to listen to music, she goes and finds the CD, loads it in our CD changer-- or turns on the radio (inevitably changing the tuner configuration which i have to *gasp* manually change back when i want to use the squeezebox). I am contemplating ditching the cd changer-- its as obsolete as my turntable which is in the basement but i know that will not be well recieved by the wife. I am more amused than anything, but its made me curious about other's experience-- do you all find yourself fighting against ingrained habits in your house? any tricks (or amusing stories)? cheers JAC -- jacabo jacabo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10120 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jacabo wrote: Do any of you have this experience? -- i went to great lengths to set my SB3 up so that its easy to use because while i enjoy tinkering with the technology, i know my wife has zero patience for technology that is not intuitive and convenient. so here it is-- Slimserver runs off our kitchen machine that is always on, i have spent hours cleaning up and consolidating our music libraries so they are intuitive and finding steams for our favorite radio stations. and yetits inevitable that if she wants to listen to music, she goes and finds the CD, loads it in our CD changer-- or turns on the radio (inevitably changing the tuner configuration which i have to *gasp* manually change back when i want to use the squeezebox). I am contemplating ditching the cd changer-- its as obsolete as my turntable which is in the basement but i know that will not be well recieved by the wife. I am more amused than anything, but its made me curious about other's experience-- do you all find yourself fighting against ingrained habits in your house? any tricks (or amusing stories)? For me it was easy. When I bought my first SliMP3 the CD player in the living room went out. When I got my SB3's all cd-players and tuners were put in cardboard boxes in the loft. So if the GF wants music, she must use the SB's. It wasn't so difficult because she likes the system. She has a tendency to use the web interface instead of the remote as well. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jacabo;195170 Wrote: Do any of you have this experience? [...] I am more amused than anything, but its made me curious about other's experience-- do you all find yourself fighting against ingrained habits in your house? any tricks (or amusing stories)? cheers JAC My wife is in the same camp. Absolutely terrified by any kind of technical gizmo, compulsively switches off AND UNPLUGS(!) any device in the house that dares to show a red, yellow, green or blue LED (or VFD for that matter!) if she is not personally using it at that moment... Deeply distrustful of standby modes - she thinks it's a conpsiracy for keeping everything switched on 24x7! And BTW she absolutely *despises* the remote control front panel interface to all my SBs. I have tried and tried to sell her the browser UI, but somehow she still cannot make the neural link between wanting to hear music and turning to her computer browser... Oh well! Since she lives in Tokyo and I am spending most of my time in the USA for work, incredible as it may sound she often emails me her music requests for me to cue for her on the SBs in Tokyo which I can do via remote access to my slimserver from here... -- nico nico's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=672 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jacabo;195170 Wrote: Do any of you have this experience? and yetits inevitable that if she wants to listen to music, she goes and finds the CD, loads it in our CD changer-- or turns on the radio (inevitably changing the tuner configuration which i have to *gasp* manually change back when i want to use the squeezebox). Yes. She probably is not impressed with it, yet. Or doesn't understand. I've had my SB2 in use in the common area entertainment center for almost two years. The other day I had it on Random and a particular song caught my wife's ear... and then another. So she asked me where the songs were coming from. I explained that I have put all of our CDs onto the computer. Hmmm, OK. I don't expect her to fully get it until I install something like a touchscreen-JackPC combo and use a nice juke box skin. She knows how to use juke boxes. -- fathom39 fathom39's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jacabo;195170 Wrote: I am more amused than anything, but its made me curious about other's experience-- do you all find yourself fighting against ingrained habits in your house? any tricks (or amusing stories)? No problems -- the advantage of getting rid of those piles of CDs in a small apartment made SB really easy to sell. One piece of advice, though: The customizability of the ui is a great feature. Taking everything you don't need daily off from the main menu does wonders for the usability. pfarrell Wrote: We do not keep recipes on a computer. 3x5 cards work great. I thought so too, but now I've realized I just didn't have the right tools: Nokia 770 and n800 are great for recipes. When I find a recipe I like from the web, I first take the device to the shop as a shopping list and then put it by the stove while cooking... If the device had a nice program for storing recipes, I'd use it. -- jku jku's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8144 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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My wife breaks things. -- gbruzzo gbruzzo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3633 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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There are just so many layers in this thread its not true (no-one complaining about their husband's ability to use the box?!). But, FWIW, within a week of installing my first SB it was made clear to me that it would be very welcome if another one appeared in the kitchen. The SBs are used by both of us almost exclusively from the remote (except when I'm playing with my iPaq). One other bonus - now the music is all ripped on a server, my wife appreciates being able to find anything she wants for spot copying to a CDR using her computer. Much easier than finding the original CD and copying that... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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ceejay;195229 Wrote: no-one complaining about their husband's ability to use the box?! Not sure it's that kind of forum mate ;) On topic, my wife loves using the SB, and is also dead happy we're getting another. She also likes the fact that she can use her own computer to choose the music. Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost and Anti-cables http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jacabo;195170 Wrote: do you all find yourself fighting against ingrained habits in your house? any tricks (or amusing stories)? I'm the only one in my house of four that uses the SB. It was explained to me that it's not really one thing or another and everyone else uses iTunes instead for music. What they mean is that it isn't as dead simple as a TV, but neither does it have a keyboard and big screen so that it's easy to search for music, so it ends up being a disappointment on both counts. Also, they love video as much as audio, which I do too - I'd love to have my Manga on line as easily as my music. I did try convincing them that it really isn't that hard, but compared to the rich GUI on a PC, the SB remote is a very poor second choice. Neither do they care much for the best possible sound, my daughters are too busy dancing around the room. My wife just likes to listen to music while she cooks or reads the paper. I'm the only one with any serious musical leaning. Perhaps I should make a note and start enjoying the music instead of trying to sell them on the higher audio quality of the SB... -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Does she have easy access to a PC so that she can use the web interface, or is the remote interface her only choice? If it weren't for the web interface I personally wouldn't be using a Squeezebox at all. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jacabo;195170 Wrote: I am more amused than anything, but its made me curious about other's experience-- do you all find yourself fighting against ingrained habits in your house? any tricks (or amusing stories)? No problems Agreed. My wife picked up how to use it easily and really likes it. The WAF in my home is high. My impression is that is more common than your experience. One piece of advice, though: The customizability of the ui is a great feature. Taking everything you don't need daily off from the main menu does wonders for the usability. That's a good idea. Also, walk her through it a few times. Let her do all the work with the remote. And be patient (no sighs or eye rolls). Good luck. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JJZolx;195238 Wrote: Does she have easy access to a PC so that she can use the web interface, or is the remote interface her only choice? If it weren't for the web interface I personally wouldn't be using a Squeezebox at all. I would have to second this. My girlfriend has gradually used the Squeezebox more as I've gone out of my way to add the music she likes, but constantly complains about how complicated the menu structure is. The separate menu universe of the Squeeze Network is especially confusing. I set up a special radio station for her, but it's such a pain to get to that she never uses it. I think a larger screen, say the size of the whole front of the Squeezebox with a nice Moose style interface to better explain to novices what's going on would help, the current text is just too cryptic for the uninitiated IMHO. -- sander sander's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jacabo;195170 Wrote: I am more amused than anything, but its made me curious about other's experience-- do you all find yourself fighting against ingrained habits in your house? any tricks (or amusing stories)? My wife is computer savvy but still a bit of a luddite about some things. She didn't like the SB at first because the menus on the SB+remote actually are a bit cryptic at first. If you are like many of us and played with Softsqueeze before buying the SB, that learning stage is in the past. And it was completely different because it was discovering a new toy, evaluating a purchase, etc. as opposed to just trying to listen to some f'ing music After a quick walk-thru of the menu structure she got it, and actually loves it now. In retrospect, a quick sketch of the menu early on might have been a good idea. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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In my house, the wife (me) is the techno-geek. My husband is resistant to all the gadgetry, but he usually comes around to it. He does not use the Squeezebox, though, mainly because he only listens to music when he is at his PC or working outside and since there is still no squeezebox-boombox, well. As for recipes, I do use my computer for recipes and sync to my PDA which I use in the kitchen while cooking. -- MeSue Sue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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in our locale FM radio reception sucks, but this was solved because we can now receive internet radio on the SB3. My wife was instantly overjoyed when I tuned in her favorite Bavarian radio station ... here in California. I set it up on the favorits, and she listens regularly. No problem. -- kswenson6206 kswenson6206's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34495 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
