RE: Restore Exchange 2000 IS?
SP3 -Original Message- From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions You're using eseutil from what service pack version of exchange? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Posted At: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:00 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? Subject: RE: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? While running ESEUTIL /P I am seeing this in the log... (see below) Hopefully the repair will work and the darn thing will mount. Dbtime is larger than database dbtime -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Depends on what you need :) The priv.edb and priv.stm should give you all mail that has been committed to the databases, but will not give you mail that has been received since that time. Also, having the same server name is not quite as important, but having the same org name and same Admin Group and Storage Group is what is important. Having the same server name should be absolutely fine though. Since you are not doing a typical restore though, you will probably have to stop the Exchange services, then replace the files. I also wouldn't be surprised if you may find that you have to run eseutil and/or isinteg to get the database mounted. Before running those though, try and re-start the services and then take note of any errors you receive. Also, before running eseutil or isinteg, make sure that you still have your backup copy of the databases in case something happens to them while running either of those utilities. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:40 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? Subject: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? OK, I have a priv.edb and priv.stm from an old backup (just these two files). I have built an offline exchange server with the same names and service packs as outlined by Microsoft. My question is, can I recover with just the files or do I need a full Exchange backup from a program such as Veritas or Windows Backup? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Exchange 2000 IS?
Depends on what you need :) The priv.edb and priv.stm should give you all mail that has been committed to the databases, but will not give you mail that has been received since that time. Also, having the same server name is not quite as important, but having the same org name and same Admin Group and Storage Group is what is important. Having the same server name should be absolutely fine though. Since you are not doing a typical restore though, you will probably have to stop the Exchange services, then replace the files. I also wouldn't be surprised if you may find that you have to run eseutil and/or isinteg to get the database mounted. Before running those though, try and re-start the services and then take note of any errors you receive. Also, before running eseutil or isinteg, make sure that you still have your backup copy of the databases in case something happens to them while running either of those utilities. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:40 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? Subject: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? OK, I have a priv.edb and priv.stm from an old backup (just these two files). I have built an offline exchange server with the same names and service packs as outlined by Microsoft. My question is, can I recover with just the files or do I need a full Exchange backup from a program such as Veritas or Windows Backup? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Exchange 2000 IS?
While running ESEUTIL /P I am seeing this in the log... (see below) Hopefully the repair will work and the darn thing will mount. Dbtime is larger than database dbtime -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Depends on what you need :) The priv.edb and priv.stm should give you all mail that has been committed to the databases, but will not give you mail that has been received since that time. Also, having the same server name is not quite as important, but having the same org name and same Admin Group and Storage Group is what is important. Having the same server name should be absolutely fine though. Since you are not doing a typical restore though, you will probably have to stop the Exchange services, then replace the files. I also wouldn't be surprised if you may find that you have to run eseutil and/or isinteg to get the database mounted. Before running those though, try and re-start the services and then take note of any errors you receive. Also, before running eseutil or isinteg, make sure that you still have your backup copy of the databases in case something happens to them while running either of those utilities. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:40 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? Subject: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? OK, I have a priv.edb and priv.stm from an old backup (just these two files). I have built an offline exchange server with the same names and service packs as outlined by Microsoft. My question is, can I recover with just the files or do I need a full Exchange backup from a program such as Veritas or Windows Backup? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Exchange 2000 IS?
You're using eseutil from what service pack version of exchange? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Posted At: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:00 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? Subject: RE: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? While running ESEUTIL /P I am seeing this in the log... (see below) Hopefully the repair will work and the darn thing will mount. Dbtime is larger than database dbtime -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Depends on what you need :) The priv.edb and priv.stm should give you all mail that has been committed to the databases, but will not give you mail that has been received since that time. Also, having the same server name is not quite as important, but having the same org name and same Admin Group and Storage Group is what is important. Having the same server name should be absolutely fine though. Since you are not doing a typical restore though, you will probably have to stop the Exchange services, then replace the files. I also wouldn't be surprised if you may find that you have to run eseutil and/or isinteg to get the database mounted. Before running those though, try and re-start the services and then take note of any errors you receive. Also, before running eseutil or isinteg, make sure that you still have your backup copy of the databases in case something happens to them while running either of those utilities. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:40 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? Subject: Restore Exchange 2000 IS? OK, I have a priv.edb and priv.stm from an old backup (just these two files). I have built an offline exchange server with the same names and service packs as outlined by Microsoft. My question is, can I recover with just the files or do I need a full Exchange backup from a program such as Veritas or Windows Backup? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup
it will be in the deleted item folder If he has emptied the deleted item Try recovering from the tools-recover deleted item Regards Santhosh.H Systems Administrator Timken Engineering and Research India Pvt. Ltd. Bangalore, India. Phone: +91-80-5536113 / Ext 1049; Fax: +91-80-5529544 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Sanjeev Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup Importance: High One of our users mistakenly deleted his past Friday's calendar information through his PDA. We do have a backup of our Exchange server data for this past weekend. My question is there any utility in exchange which will let me restore only his calendar information from the backup. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup
One of our users mistakenly deleted his past Friday's calendar information through his PDA. We do have a backup of our Exchange server data for this past weekend. My question is there any utility in exchange which will let me restore only his calendar information from the backup. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup
If you have deleted item retention on, you may be able to get it back. What Exchange version are we talking about anyhow? -Original Message- From: Sanjeev Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup Importance: High One of our users mistakenly deleted his past Friday's calendar information through his PDA. We do have a backup of our Exchange server data for this past weekend. My question is there any utility in exchange which will let me restore only his calendar information from the backup. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup
You could have a look at www.ontrack.com. I have just downloaded an evaluation of the PowerTools product, which is supposed to be able to do what you are wanting to do. Perhaps others on the list could comment on whether it actually works or not :-). -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 2:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup If you have deleted item retention on, you may be able to get it back. What Exchange version are we talking about anyhow? -Original Message- From: Sanjeev Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup Importance: High One of our users mistakenly deleted his past Friday's calendar information through his PDA. We do have a backup of our Exchange server data for this past weekend. My question is there any utility in exchange which will let me restore only his calendar information from the backup. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup
We are running Exchange 5.5. I am not sure if deleted item retention is enabled. BTW, how do I find out whether it is on or off? Thanks! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup If you have deleted item retention on, you may be able to get it back. What Exchange version are we talking about anyhow? -Original Message- From: Sanjeev Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup Importance: High One of our users mistakenly deleted his past Friday's calendar information through his PDA. We do have a backup of our Exchange server data for this past weekend. My question is there any utility in exchange which will let me restore only his calendar information from the backup. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup
XADM: Set Deleted Mail Message Retention Time in Exchange Server 5.5 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;246283 XADM: Understanding Deleted Item Retention and Message Deletion Process http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q249680 William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sanjeev Sharma Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Importance: High We are running Exchange 5.5. I am not sure if deleted item retention is enabled. BTW, how do I find out whether it is on or off? Thanks! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup If you have deleted item retention on, you may be able to get it back. What Exchange version are we talking about anyhow? -Original Message- From: Sanjeev Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore explicit folder data from the Exchange backup Importance: High One of our users mistakenly deleted his past Friday's calendar information through his PDA. We do have a backup of our Exchange server data for this past weekend. My question is there any utility in exchange which will let me restore only his calendar information from the backup. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Exchange Information store
Here is how you do it. Follow step by step. Send Ed beer when done. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 7:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Exchange Information store We are upgrading to Windows 2000 and retaining Exchange 5.5. We are building another server to replace the old server Fsjlss03 with a different name Fsjlss02, and if we restore the information store to the new Exchange Server name will the users still be able get to thier mailbox with without changing the server name in Outlook ? thank you _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore problem
Was this the only server in the site? -Original Message- From: Roger Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore problem Tried both Constantly get permissions problems (access denied) -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore problem There's your problem.Did you back up the information store also? If so restore from that instead of the individual mailboxes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore problem They were -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore problem We're you doing a BLB? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore problem Hi All I hope that you wonderful people can help me. Exchange 2000 SP2 Windows 2000 server SP1 Server went down in a big heap but the good thing is we have tape backup of the information store. The problem is as follows Build a new box, same setup as the original, restoring from tape will not allow access to the restore. (access denied to directory and error writing security data stream). I have read all the stuff on Veritas site (BE8.5) and done all that they have asked. We have recovered most of the data but the public folder is the problem. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated Thanks in advance Roger Smith MCSE, MCP+I, CCNA Technical Support Manager OfficePCs 10 Cape Street Dickson Phone : 62579111 Fax: 62579004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore problem
We're you doing a BLB? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore problem Hi All I hope that you wonderful people can help me. Exchange 2000 SP2 Windows 2000 server SP1 Server went down in a big heap but the good thing is we have tape backup of the information store. The problem is as follows Build a new box, same setup as the original, restoring from tape will not allow access to the restore. (access denied to directory and error writing security data stream). I have read all the stuff on Veritas site (BE8.5) and done all that they have asked. We have recovered most of the data but the public folder is the problem. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated Thanks in advance Roger Smith MCSE, MCP+I, CCNA Technical Support Manager OfficePCs 10 Cape Street Dickson Phone : 62579111 Fax: 62579004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore problem
They were -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore problem We're you doing a BLB? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore problem Hi All I hope that you wonderful people can help me. Exchange 2000 SP2 Windows 2000 server SP1 Server went down in a big heap but the good thing is we have tape backup of the information store. The problem is as follows Build a new box, same setup as the original, restoring from tape will not allow access to the restore. (access denied to directory and error writing security data stream). I have read all the stuff on Veritas site (BE8.5) and done all that they have asked. We have recovered most of the data but the public folder is the problem. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated Thanks in advance Roger Smith MCSE, MCP+I, CCNA Technical Support Manager OfficePCs 10 Cape Street Dickson Phone : 62579111 Fax: 62579004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore problem
There's your problem.Did you back up the information store also? If so restore from that instead of the individual mailboxes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore problem They were -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore problem We're you doing a BLB? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore problem Hi All I hope that you wonderful people can help me. Exchange 2000 SP2 Windows 2000 server SP1 Server went down in a big heap but the good thing is we have tape backup of the information store. The problem is as follows Build a new box, same setup as the original, restoring from tape will not allow access to the restore. (access denied to directory and error writing security data stream). I have read all the stuff on Veritas site (BE8.5) and done all that they have asked. We have recovered most of the data but the public folder is the problem. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated Thanks in advance Roger Smith MCSE, MCP+I, CCNA Technical Support Manager OfficePCs 10 Cape Street Dickson Phone : 62579111 Fax: 62579004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore problem
Tried both Constantly get permissions problems (access denied) -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore problem There's your problem.Did you back up the information store also? If so restore from that instead of the individual mailboxes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore problem They were -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore problem We're you doing a BLB? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore problem Hi All I hope that you wonderful people can help me. Exchange 2000 SP2 Windows 2000 server SP1 Server went down in a big heap but the good thing is we have tape backup of the information store. The problem is as follows Build a new box, same setup as the original, restoring from tape will not allow access to the restore. (access denied to directory and error writing security data stream). I have read all the stuff on Veritas site (BE8.5) and done all that they have asked. We have recovered most of the data but the public folder is the problem. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated Thanks in advance Roger Smith MCSE, MCP+I, CCNA Technical Support Manager OfficePCs 10 Cape Street Dickson Phone : 62579111 Fax: 62579004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Public Folders to an alternate server
If all you want to do is make sure the public folders live SOMEWHERE, then you can import the recovered folders to PST and then import them into your production AD. If you want them to go to their original homes, well, you may have to wrestle with the Exchange 2000 version of Pfadmin. If that's the case, good luck. I'll pay you dearly for whatever info gets it to work. ;) -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Public Folders to an alternate server Importance: High Hi all. I have restored an Exchange 2000 PF store to an alternate server. No problems with the restoration process itself - the store mounted fine. However the alternate server is in a different active directory. That active directory does not have these public folders in the Microsoft Exchange System Objects container. Is there a way to populate the AD based on the contents of the PF store? (like DS/IS Consistency Adjuster used to do back in Exchange 5.5) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Public Folders to an alternate server
This was my original plan (similar to single mailbox restore): 1. Restore PF store from tape to alternate server 2. Mount the restored store 3. Connect with Outlook to the alternate server and export the PFs to PST 4. Import PST into the production server However the alternate Exchange server has its own active directory that does not have the same Microsoft Exchange System Objects container as the producion system. The PFs live in that container. So the alternative AD does not have these PFs listed and they do not show up in Outlook. -Original Message- From: Harmon, Michelle M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Public Folders to an alternate server If all you want to do is make sure the public folders live SOMEWHERE, then you can import the recovered folders to PST and then import them into your production AD. If you want them to go to their original homes, well, you may have to wrestle with the Exchange 2000 version of Pfadmin. If that's the case, good luck. I'll pay you dearly for whatever info gets it to work. ;) -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Public Folders to an alternate server Importance: High Hi all. I have restored an Exchange 2000 PF store to an alternate server. No problems with the restoration process itself - the store mounted fine. However the alternate server is in a different active directory. That active directory does not have these public folders in the Microsoft Exchange System Objects container. Is there a way to populate the AD based on the contents of the PF store? (like DS/IS Consistency Adjuster used to do back in Exchange 5.5) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Public Folders to an alternate server
Ok, I have figured it out if anyone is interested. There are two ways of making it work. After you restore PUB1.EDB and PUB1.STM to an alternate server and mount the PF store, al the public folders will show up in Exchange System Manager. But you won't see them in Outlook yet. To make the visible in Outlook, do: A. Create a new public top-level public folder on the alternate Exchange server. Then move one of the restored public folders into the new folder. Then right-click on the new folder and select All Tasks/Propagate Settings/Folder Rights. After it rips through, move the restored public folder back into the original location. OR B. Create a new public top-level public folder on the alternate Exchange server. Then COPY one of the restored public folders into the new folder. Delete the original restored public folder and move its copy from the new top level folder back to the original location. Andrey Fyodorov Senior Exchange Administrator iNNERHOST http://www.innerhost.com -Original Message- From: Harmon, Michelle M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Public Folders to an alternate server If all you want to do is make sure the public folders live SOMEWHERE, then you can import the recovered folders to PST and then import them into your production AD. If you want them to go to their original homes, well, you may have to wrestle with the Exchange 2000 version of Pfadmin. If that's the case, good luck. I'll pay you dearly for whatever info gets it to work. ;) -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Public Folders to an alternate server Importance: High Hi all. I have restored an Exchange 2000 PF store to an alternate server. No problems with the restoration process itself - the store mounted fine. However the alternate server is in a different active directory. That active directory does not have these public folders in the Microsoft Exchange System Objects container. Is there a way to populate the AD based on the contents of the PF store? (like DS/IS Consistency Adjuster used to do back in Exchange 5.5) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restore question
I believe you have it backwards. If you are restoring the priv you can name the server anything. If you are restoring pub and directory services they depend on the server name must match the original. - Original Message - From: Stevens, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:12 AM Subject: restore question I am trying a restore on our disaster recovery server. When I try to restore the priv.edb the restore process does not begin without the network cable attached. In the past (with NT4 backup), from what I recall, did not have to have the lan cable attached which is reassuring that I will not effect our production servers. However with the new W2K backup, the restore will not work without communicating to the network. Does anyone know why this is occuring? The disaster recovery server is not a BDC...All servers are W2K with Exchange 5.5/SP4. We are only restoring the store, not Directory services, which from what I understand, can only be restored to the original exchange server. thanks, Dave _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restore question
oops feels stupid I read your post wy to quickly and in my glee that I might be able to actually answer a question posted here, see that you were saying the exact sme thing! Apologies! - Original Message - From: Stevens, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:12 AM Subject: restore question I am trying a restore on our disaster recovery server. When I try to restore the priv.edb the restore process does not begin without the network cable attached. In the past (with NT4 backup), from what I recall, did not have to have the lan cable attached which is reassuring that I will not effect our production servers. However with the new W2K backup, the restore will not work without communicating to the network. Does anyone know why this is occuring? The disaster recovery server is not a BDC...All servers are W2K with Exchange 5.5/SP4. We are only restoring the store, not Directory services, which from what I understand, can only be restored to the original exchange server. thanks, Dave _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore OST on to a new workstation installation
Thanks Chris. Disclaimer duly noted. Cheers Greg -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 July 2002 16:07 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore OST on to a new workstation installation #include std_disclaim.h I've managed to create a new profile on a machine, create an empty OST and then replace it with an OST from another machine in the past. -Original Message- From: Greg Heywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore OST on to a new workstation installation Hello, I have some users on the other side of a slow link from the Exchange (5.5) server. They are about to have there workstations rebuilt and some have around 500-800mb in OST files (outlook 2000). Old OS was 98 and new one is W2K. Is there anyway that these can be backed-up, then restored onto a new machine for the same user (and exchange account) or will be I be stuck with an error about the wrong OST for the user? I am trying to avoid having ½ dozen users all sync'ing massive mailboxes across the WAN links if poss. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Please note that neither International Power plc nor the sender accepts any responsibility for any viruses that may be contained in this e-mail or its attachments. It is therefore your responsibility to ensure that your systems have adequate protection against virus infection. The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the intended recipient at the e-mail address to which it has been addressed. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination or copying of the message or associated attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender by return e-mail or call +44 207 320 8600 and ask for the sender and then delete it immediately from your system. *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Single Mailbox
Thanks for the replies. (I hadn't come across this Q in my searching - many thanks.) Trouble is that I had restarted the IS before I read this Q article! [= consistent IS up to last backup, but not the post-backup transactions]. Restore - even with the Restore in Progress key LOOKS through the post-backup Logs but doesn't play them. My boss thinks there's something which says they have been played already so don't bother playing them again. [?] I have created a new IS from the tape so I don't think they have been played at all against this IS. The data is not in the IS. I was thinking that since the post-backup logs were copied manually there is nothing to tell Exchange 'old' and 'new' database paths like the reg key does, so the logs want to play into a dbase on G: (original drive) while the actual IS I'm restoring to is on an F: drive. Could this be possible? The users concerned were less than over the moon to have lost half a day's email but they've left us now! I've got time to try this again (with a smaller database this time). It seems the most imporatant thing is NOT to start the IS until, well, one knows exactly what one is doing! Thanks again. Eugene -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Single Mailbox Based on what you have said this should do the trick. That is if you do full backups every day. We have done that for several of our customers. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: McCarthy, Eugene (AFIT) Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 04:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Restore Single Mailbox Hi All, I'd be interested to know if anyone has successfully restored a deleted mailbox to its state half-way through the day (between backups). What happened: Administrator accidentally deleted mailbox - not his fault really. What I'd like: 1. Full restore of IS to re-create mailbox as it was at time of Tuesday evening backup (straight forward !) 2. Replay Transaction Logs up to the last one before deletion (3pm Wednesday). In theory, I may be able to frig the Restore in Progress reg key, empty the .PAT file, and rename the last Log I want to use as edb.log. But will it work? Has anyone tried? Thanks for any feedback. Eugene _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore distribution lists
Thank you all for the replies. I ended up Calling tech support since I DID restore, and my IS wouldn't start (before I got these emails from y'all). I used my online Veritas backup. Stopped all services, Renamed dir.edb, ran the restore of the Exchange directory using Veritas, tried to start IS...no good. Renamed the restored dir.edb, renamed the original back to dir.edb..still no IS. Called Tech support, and for some reason the service account didn't have rights. I gave it proper rights again, and it worked. Folks were complaining after this of mail sitting in the out box...rebooted the server, and it fixed that. MS Gave me Q155414 as the procedure for restoring DL's. I should have been renaming the DSADATA folder and not the dir.edb as stated below by Raj. Thanks again, Ron -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore distribution lists Ron: If you have an offline backup: stop all services, rename DSADATA dir to DSADATA.old,restore the DSADATA directory from backup ,start system attendant and directory service export the DLs to a .csv file . Bring back the old DSADATA dir and import the DLs. This should work. Let me know if you need step by step. I did this not too long ago. Raj -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore distribution lists All of my distribution lists were deleted by a sister company who THOUGHT they could delete them without effecting me. The THOUGHT the ADC was not functioning and that they had removed any connections to my 5.5 server. *sigh* So, I need to re-create all of my DL's, or restore them from back up, but I have never done this. It is a simple Directory restore, or does the IS need to get involved? If this could cause corruption, I might as well get busy re-creating them..since I don't even want to go down the corruption road. Thanks for the insight, Ron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** **This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message. Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation.** ** ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore distribution lists
Ron, Or restore it to a off network version of the same server and export the DL's and import them into the live networked server. Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everybody agrees you should have one, but no one wants to use yours -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore distribution lists Ron: If you have an offline backup: stop all services, rename DSADATA dir to DSADATA.old,restore the DSADATA directory from backup ,start system attendant and directory service export the DLs to a .csv file . Bring back the old DSADATA dir and import the DLs. This should work. Let me know if you need step by step. I did this not too long ago. Raj -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore distribution lists All of my distribution lists were deleted by a sister company who THOUGHT they could delete them without effecting me. The THOUGHT the ADC was not functioning and that they had removed any connections to my 5.5 server. *sigh* So, I need to re-create all of my DL's, or restore them from back up, but I have never done this. It is a simple Directory restore, or does the IS need to get involved? If this could cause corruption, I might as well get busy re-creating them..since I don't even want to go down the corruption road. Thanks for the insight, Ron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] **This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message. Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (6) *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Single Mailbox
Try this on your recovery server: Q247109 -Original Message- From: McCarthy, Eugene (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Single Mailbox Hi All, I'd be interested to know if anyone has successfully restored a deleted mailbox to its state half-way through the day (between backups). What happened: Administrator accidentally deleted mailbox - not his fault really. What I'd like: 1. Full restore of IS to re-create mailbox as it was at time of Tuesday evening backup (straight forward !) 2. Replay Transaction Logs up to the last one before deletion (3pm Wednesday). In theory, I may be able to frig the Restore in Progress reg key, empty the .PAT file, and rename the last Log I want to use as edb.log. But will it work? Has anyone tried? Thanks for any feedback. Eugene _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Single Mailbox
Based on what you have said this should do the trick. That is if you do full backups every day. We have done that for several of our customers. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: McCarthy, Eugene (AFIT) Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 04:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Restore Single Mailbox Hi All, I'd be interested to know if anyone has successfully restored a deleted mailbox to its state half-way through the day (between backups). What happened: Administrator accidentally deleted mailbox - not his fault really. What I'd like: 1. Full restore of IS to re-create mailbox as it was at time of Tuesday evening backup (straight forward !) 2. Replay Transaction Logs up to the last one before deletion (3pm Wednesday). In theory, I may be able to frig the Restore in Progress reg key, empty the .PAT file, and rename the last Log I want to use as edb.log. But will it work? Has anyone tried? Thanks for any feedback. Eugene _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore distribution lists
Ron: If you have an offline backup: stop all services, rename DSADATA dir to DSADATA.old,restore the DSADATA directory from backup ,start system attendant and directory service export the DLs to a .csv file . Bring back the old DSADATA dir and import the DLs. This should work. Let me know if you need step by step. I did this not too long ago. Raj -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore distribution lists All of my distribution lists were deleted by a sister company who THOUGHT they could delete them without effecting me. The THOUGHT the ADC was not functioning and that they had removed any connections to my 5.5 server. *sigh* So, I need to re-create all of my DL's, or restore them from back up, but I have never done this. It is a simple Directory restore, or does the IS need to get involved? If this could cause corruption, I might as well get busy re-creating them..since I don't even want to go down the corruption road. Thanks for the insight, Ron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] **This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message. Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restore distribution lists
Well they are objects in the exchange database. So I would look at doing a restore sometime off hours. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:35 PM Subject: Restore distribution lists All of my distribution lists were deleted by a sister company who THOUGHT they could delete them without effecting me. The THOUGHT the ADC was not functioning and that they had removed any connections to my 5.5 server. *sigh* So, I need to re-create all of my DL's, or restore them from back up, but I have never done this. It is a simple Directory restore, or does the IS need to get involved? If this could cause corruption, I might as well get busy re-creating them..since I don't even want to go down the corruption road. Thanks for the insight, Ron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
Only if you know what you're doing. If you're unsure, its money well spent. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware I can think of a hundred better ways to spend 245 dollars. -Original Message- From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Call Microsoft PSS... They'll walk you through it. Best $245 you'll ever spend. -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:08 PM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: restore exchange to different hardware Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High I'm sorry that I did not mentioned it in subject or message body ... I'm talking about exchange 2000 on w2000 server AD controller . So there is more things to do than restoring Exchange 5.5. So can anyone help me with excchange 2000 on w2000 AD controller ? Once again thanks for any advie ... Bye, Honza Novak -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware The hardware can be different. You just need the same O/S and Exchange level (version, sp etc). The only thing that might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL. Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc. See http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/b ackuprestore.a sp Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restore exchange to different hardware
Iam not sure if the hardware really matters, what you can do is setup your server as similar as possible to the old server i.e. logs/db etcpaths should be the same. Restore the databases (online) making sure that Org/site names are the same, also makesure that in the registry that RestoreInProgress key is pointing to teh correct locations. Then start the services. You do not have to do a isinteg -patch for online restores. If its Offline , thehn its pretty straight forwards provided your backups are realiable. Kulwinder _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
You should be able too. The keys are having the same OS and SP, and the same Exch SP and hotfixes. And read this http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a sp -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
The hardware can be different. You just need the same O/S and Exchange level (version, sp etc). The only thing that might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL. Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc. See http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
I'm sorry that I did not mentioned it in subject or message body ... I'm talking about exchange 2000 on w2000 server AD controller . So there is more things to do than restoring Exchange 5.5. So can anyone help me with excchange 2000 on w2000 AD controller ? Once again thanks for any advie ... Bye, Honza Novak -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware The hardware can be different. You just need the same O/S and Exchange level (version, sp etc). The only thing that might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL. Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc. See http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jan Novk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
Call Microsoft PSS... They'll walk you through it. Best $245 you'll ever spend. -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:08 PM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: restore exchange to different hardware Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High I'm sorry that I did not mentioned it in subject or message body ... I'm talking about exchange 2000 on w2000 server AD controller . So there is more things to do than restoring Exchange 5.5. So can anyone help me with excchange 2000 on w2000 AD controller ? Once again thanks for any advie ... Bye, Honza Novak -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware The hardware can be different. You just need the same O/S and Exchange level (version, sp etc). The only thing that might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL. Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc. See http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
I can think of a hundred better ways to spend 245 dollars. -Original Message- From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Call Microsoft PSS... They'll walk you through it. Best $245 you'll ever spend. -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:08 PM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: restore exchange to different hardware Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High I'm sorry that I did not mentioned it in subject or message body ... I'm talking about exchange 2000 on w2000 server AD controller . So there is more things to do than restoring Exchange 5.5. So can anyone help me with excchange 2000 on w2000 AD controller ? Once again thanks for any advie ... Bye, Honza Novak -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware The hardware can be different. You just need the same O/S and Exchange level (version, sp etc). The only thing that might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL. Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc. See http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
That will solve his problem? http://flyingpenguinproductions.com/boards/ -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware I can think of a hundred better ways to spend 245 dollars. -Original Message- From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Call Microsoft PSS... They'll walk you through it. Best $245 you'll ever spend. -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:08 PM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: restore exchange to different hardware Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High I'm sorry that I did not mentioned it in subject or message body ... I'm talking about exchange 2000 on w2000 server AD controller . So there is more things to do than restoring Exchange 5.5. So can anyone help me with excchange 2000 on w2000 AD controller ? Once again thanks for any advie ... Bye, Honza Novak -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware The hardware can be different. You just need the same O/S and Exchange level (version, sp etc). The only thing that might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL. Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc. See http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/b ackuprestore.a sp Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
quack -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware That will solve his problem? http://flyingpenguinproductions.com/boards/ -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware I can think of a hundred better ways to spend 245 dollars. -Original Message- From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Call Microsoft PSS... They'll walk you through it. Best $245 you'll ever spend. -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:08 PM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: restore exchange to different hardware Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High I'm sorry that I did not mentioned it in subject or message body ... I'm talking about exchange 2000 on w2000 server AD controller . So there is more things to do than restoring Exchange 5.5. So can anyone help me with excchange 2000 on w2000 AD controller ? Once again thanks for any advie ... Bye, Honza Novak -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware The hardware can be different. You just need the same O/S and Exchange level (version, sp etc). The only thing that might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL. Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc. See http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/b ackuprestore.a sp Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
title or mating call? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware quack -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware That will solve his problem? http://flyingpenguinproductions.com/boards/ -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware I can think of a hundred better ways to spend 245 dollars. -Original Message- From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Call Microsoft PSS... They'll walk you through it. Best $245 you'll ever spend. -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:08 PM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: restore exchange to different hardware Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High I'm sorry that I did not mentioned it in subject or message body ... I'm talking about exchange 2000 on w2000 server AD controller . So there is more things to do than restoring Exchange 5.5. So can anyone help me with excchange 2000 on w2000 AD controller ? Once again thanks for any advie ... Bye, Honza Novak -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware The hardware can be different. You just need the same O/S and Exchange level (version, sp etc). The only thing that might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL. Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc. See http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/b ackuprestore.a sp Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
Okay, I wasn't really thinking about golf clubs, booze, football tickets, or vacation travel. So I guess it's just The best $245 of your company's money you'll ever spend when there's a server down and you don't know what the hell you're doing. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:18 PM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: restore exchange to different hardware Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware I can think of a hundred better ways to spend 245 dollars. -Original Message- From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Call Microsoft PSS... They'll walk you through it. Best $245 you'll ever spend. -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:08 PM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: restore exchange to different hardware Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High I'm sorry that I did not mentioned it in subject or message body ... I'm talking about exchange 2000 on w2000 server AD controller . So there is more things to do than restoring Exchange 5.5. So can anyone help me with excchange 2000 on w2000 AD controller ? Once again thanks for any advie ... Bye, Honza Novak -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware The hardware can be different. You just need the same O/S and Exchange level (version, sp etc). The only thing that might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL. Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc. See http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: restore exchange to different hardware
Hello, I think it has gotten more complicated than 5.5, especially for different hardware. If you're going by the DR doc, light candles, make sacrifices, etc... that you'll be able to restore the System State to your different hardware. They have updated the E2K DR doc from the original one. The new version of the E2K Disaster Recovery Doc (looks like released in March of this year) gives more warning of this than the earlier August 2000 DR doc, and some tips about using Safe mode, etc The DR Mailbox Recovery Doc http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/deployment/2000/MailboxRecovery.doc goes into more about recovering a server without restoring the System State, and what attributes you may need to modify. It does not appear to have been updated since the original August 2000 release. Good Luck, Brent -Original Message- From: Jan Novk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:08 AM Posted To: MS Exchange List Conversation: restore exchange to different hardware Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High I'm sorry that I did not mentioned it in subject or message body ... I'm talking about exchange 2000 on w2000 server AD controller . So there is more things to do than restoring Exchange 5.5. So can anyone help me with excchange 2000 on w2000 AD controller ? Once again thanks for any advie ... Bye, Honza Novak -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware The hardware can be different. You just need the same O/S and Exchange level (version, sp etc). The only thing that might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL. Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc. See http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jan Novk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: restore exchange to different hardware Importance: High Hello, Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this scenario ? Thanks a lot for any advice Bye, Honza Novak _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
You can obviously do this, but there are a lot of concerns. First off, what would cause a corruption so bad that you need to restore? It's usually something flaky with the disk subsystem. So, if you restore to the same box, you simply are asking for trouble. Of course, you can try to diagnose and fix the hardware problem first and then perform the restore but that will be a rather lenghty outage for your clients. You've got to know what your SLAs are and devise a recovery strategy that will allow you to meet that. If it requires you to purchase additional hardware, than that's what you need to do. I really prefer to have a standby server ready to go with sufficient disk space, but YMMV. Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge I know this seems like a rather stupid question. Just in most environments I have worked in, they always had extra server for this. I brought the point up because our company has supplied us with a restore server. The restore server they provided is an old box that does not have enough space or enough power for us to perform a database recovery scenario. I can do a full restore of the database however, in a scenario where the database has been corrupted and you need to run utilities against the database, it usually requires double whatever your database is. We do not have the space. My co-worker stated that instead he would just try to restore/recover on the same server that has corruption. Maybe I'm thinking of this the wrong way and just need to refresh my disaster recovery memory. (I haven't had a crash in more than 4 years). I just thought I would ask opinion here... LaCretia -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge You could restore it to the same box, another box, a PC, a Laptop, whatever. You should DL and read the MS Exchange Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
While it is possible to run it over a network share, I have seen it cause more damage on a busy network (way back when in the Exchange 4.0 days, during an offline defrag operation). Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Que? It's a legit question. If the database were corrupt due to a hardware problem, it would be less than ideal to restore to that box or waiting n hours for new hardware to arrive. I'd ideally want my recovery server to have sufficient disk space to run database repair operations locally, but it is possible (albeit slower) to run many of those operations to a network drive. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Yuo = Teh loser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
You could restore it to the same box, another box, a PC, a Laptop, whatever. You should DL and read the MS Exchange Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
Sure. He can restore everything to same box assuming that that box and the backups are usable. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
Yuo = Teh loser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
I know this seems like a rather stupid question. Just in most environments I have worked in, they always had extra server for this. I brought the point up because our company has supplied us with a restore server. The restore server they provided is an old box that does not have enough space or enough power for us to perform a database recovery scenario. I can do a full restore of the database however, in a scenario where the database has been corrupted and you need to run utilities against the database, it usually requires double whatever your database is. We do not have the space. My co-worker stated that instead he would just try to restore/recover on the same server that has corruption. Maybe I'm thinking of this the wrong way and just need to refresh my disaster recovery memory. (I haven't had a crash in more than 4 years). I just thought I would ask opinion here... LaCretia -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge You could restore it to the same box, another box, a PC, a Laptop, whatever. You should DL and read the MS Exchange Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
Flame me if you wish.. I've seen dumber questions posted! -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge Yuo = Teh loser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
Are you saying that you don't have enough $$ to spend on bigger storage? What kind box is this? The 60Gig IDE drives are only $70... Andrew, MCSE (NT W2K) + CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:48 AM Posted To: DiscussionGroup Conversation: Restore challenge Subject: RE: Restore challenge I know this seems like a rather stupid question. Just in most environments I have worked in, they always had extra server for this. I brought the point up because our company has supplied us with a restore server. The restore server they provided is an old box that does not have enough space or enough power for us to perform a database recovery scenario. I can do a full restore of the database however, in a scenario where the database has been corrupted and you need to run utilities against the database, it usually requires double whatever your database is. We do not have the space. My co-worker stated that instead he would just try to restore/recover on the same server that has corruption. Maybe I'm thinking of this the wrong way and just need to refresh my disaster recovery memory. (I haven't had a crash in more than 4 years). I just thought I would ask opinion here... LaCretia -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge You could restore it to the same box, another box, a PC, a Laptop, whatever. You should DL and read the MS Exchange Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
It wasen't a flame.I could if you wish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Flame me if you wish.. I've seen dumber questions posted! -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge Yuo = Teh loser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
Where is Hanji anyway? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Flame me if you wish.. I've seen dumber questions posted! -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge Yuo = Teh loser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
Que? It's a legit question. If the database were corrupt due to a hardware problem, it would be less than ideal to restore to that box or waiting n hours for new hardware to arrive. I'd ideally want my recovery server to have sufficient disk space to run database repair operations locally, but it is possible (albeit slower) to run many of those operations to a network drive. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Yuo = Teh loser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
Well, the question I posed to management is, How important is it that in the event of a crash that you bring it up to the time of failure? They said they are expecting to lose a days worth of data. I'm a consultant here, so I really don't think the company knows or understands what they are saying is okay. I have been trying to draw this attention to my manager to make sure that we are covered. Like I told him If the company is ok with it, I am ok with it. The other administrator here started debating with me about the fact that it doesn't matter because he would recover everything back to the production box that crashes. I didn't agree this was good practice. I was attempting to get the management to upgrade the restore server. With this debate I'm having with the other admin is causing my boss to think we are covered. That's why I was posting this. -Original Message- From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge Are you saying that you don't have enough $$ to spend on bigger storage? What kind box is this? The 60Gig IDE drives are only $70... Andrew, MCSE (NT W2K) + CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:48 AM Posted To: DiscussionGroup Conversation: Restore challenge Subject: RE: Restore challenge I know this seems like a rather stupid question. Just in most environments I have worked in, they always had extra server for this. I brought the point up because our company has supplied us with a restore server. The restore server they provided is an old box that does not have enough space or enough power for us to perform a database recovery scenario. I can do a full restore of the database however, in a scenario where the database has been corrupted and you need to run utilities against the database, it usually requires double whatever your database is. We do not have the space. My co-worker stated that instead he would just try to restore/recover on the same server that has corruption. Maybe I'm thinking of this the wrong way and just need to refresh my disaster recovery memory. (I haven't had a crash in more than 4 years). I just thought I would ask opinion here... LaCretia -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge You could restore it to the same box, another box, a PC, a Laptop, whatever. You should DL and read the MS Exchange Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
Nobody called you stupid. Having a recovery server is a great idea. Recovering to the original server is not always an option. Sure, if you blow the IS to smithereens, why not? But what about hardware failures? What if you need a mailbox from an ex employee that left 2 months ago? What about testing? In all those cases, a restore server is going to come in real handy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge I know this seems like a rather stupid question. Just in most environments I have worked in, they always had extra server for this. I brought the point up because our company has supplied us with a restore server. The restore server they provided is an old box that does not have enough space or enough power for us to perform a database recovery scenario. I can do a full restore of the database however, in a scenario where the database has been corrupted and you need to run utilities against the database, it usually requires double whatever your database is. We do not have the space. My co-worker stated that instead he would just try to restore/recover on the same server that has corruption. Maybe I'm thinking of this the wrong way and just need to refresh my disaster recovery memory. (I haven't had a crash in more than 4 years). I just thought I would ask opinion here... LaCretia -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge You could restore it to the same box, another box, a PC, a Laptop, whatever. You should DL and read the MS Exchange Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
I guess I should say one other thing. The question I guess isn't whether you can do it, but is this a good practice to use? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge Where is Hanji anyway? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Flame me if you wish.. I've seen dumber questions posted! -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge Yuo = Teh loser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
NO.. no I get enough flaming from my boss.. thank you though. :) -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge It wasen't a flame.I could if you wish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Flame me if you wish.. I've seen dumber questions posted! -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge Yuo = Teh loser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
??? -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Yuo = Teh loser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
I use a PC for mine. -Original Message- From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Are you saying that you don't have enough $$ to spend on bigger storage? What kind box is this? The 60Gig IDE drives are only $70... Andrew, MCSE (NT W2K) + CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:48 AM Posted To: DiscussionGroup Conversation: Restore challenge Subject: RE: Restore challenge I know this seems like a rather stupid question. Just in most environments I have worked in, they always had extra server for this. I brought the point up because our company has supplied us with a restore server. The restore server they provided is an old box that does not have enough space or enough power for us to perform a database recovery scenario. I can do a full restore of the database however, in a scenario where the database has been corrupted and you need to run utilities against the database, it usually requires double whatever your database is. We do not have the space. My co-worker stated that instead he would just try to restore/recover on the same server that has corruption. Maybe I'm thinking of this the wrong way and just need to refresh my disaster recovery memory. (I haven't had a crash in more than 4 years). I just thought I would ask opinion here... LaCretia -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge You could restore it to the same box, another box, a PC, a Laptop, whatever. You should DL and read the MS Exchange Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
Like Mr. Scharff stated, I think it depends on the situation and what caused the corruption in the first place. But, in of itself, if I had to do a restore of my entire production boxen, I would be putting it back on the original server. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge I guess I should say one other thing. The question I guess isn't whether you can do it, but is this a good practice to use? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge Where is Hanji anyway? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Flame me if you wish.. I've seen dumber questions posted! -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge Yuo = Teh loser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin
RE: Restore challenge
I guess if a scenario came up and the database was corrupted you would just need enough space to run the utilities against the database to fix it. So I guess your production box would work if you have double the space available to run your utilities against it. I don't know. I have never practiced this way. For restore of user mailboxes.. yes, I can use an old restore box that is a clunker. For disaster recovery of a corrupt database no or more serious problem, I always had a server that was identical to my production box so I could swap the boxes out in the case of a serious problem. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge Nobody called you stupid. Having a recovery server is a great idea. Recovering to the original server is not always an option. Sure, if you blow the IS to smithereens, why not? But what about hardware failures? What if you need a mailbox from an ex employee that left 2 months ago? What about testing? In all those cases, a restore server is going to come in real handy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge I know this seems like a rather stupid question. Just in most environments I have worked in, they always had extra server for this. I brought the point up because our company has supplied us with a restore server. The restore server they provided is an old box that does not have enough space or enough power for us to perform a database recovery scenario. I can do a full restore of the database however, in a scenario where the database has been corrupted and you need to run utilities against the database, it usually requires double whatever your database is. We do not have the space. My co-worker stated that instead he would just try to restore/recover on the same server that has corruption. Maybe I'm thinking of this the wrong way and just need to refresh my disaster recovery memory. (I haven't had a crash in more than 4 years). I just thought I would ask opinion here... LaCretia -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge You could restore it to the same box, another box, a PC, a Laptop, whatever. You should DL and read the MS Exchange Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore challenge
Yea, but you can restore your info store to a floppy. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge I use a PC for mine. -Original Message- From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore challenge Are you saying that you don't have enough $$ to spend on bigger storage? What kind box is this? The 60Gig IDE drives are only $70... Andrew, MCSE (NT W2K) + CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:48 AM Posted To: DiscussionGroup Conversation: Restore challenge Subject: RE: Restore challenge I know this seems like a rather stupid question. Just in most environments I have worked in, they always had extra server for this. I brought the point up because our company has supplied us with a restore server. The restore server they provided is an old box that does not have enough space or enough power for us to perform a database recovery scenario. I can do a full restore of the database however, in a scenario where the database has been corrupted and you need to run utilities against the database, it usually requires double whatever your database is. We do not have the space. My co-worker stated that instead he would just try to restore/recover on the same server that has corruption. Maybe I'm thinking of this the wrong way and just need to refresh my disaster recovery memory. (I haven't had a crash in more than 4 years). I just thought I would ask opinion here... LaCretia -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Restore challenge You could restore it to the same box, another box, a PC, a Laptop, whatever. You should DL and read the MS Exchange Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore challenge I have another co-worker who stated that if our Exchange 5.5 server database crashes, he would simply restore everything back to the same box. Can this be done? In my years of training, I was taught that you need to have another box identical to your production box in the case that you may have a database crash. Please help me put this to rest and let me know your thoughts. Something tells me something is wrong with that plan. LaCretia _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http
RE: Restore problem on Exchange 5.5 - dir will not start
Ed C. asks: The server you're restoring to has the same organization and site name as your production environment but was installed without joining the site, right? === Well... yes an no. When I first created the environment I did so following the DR whitepaper which says: 4. Select Create New Site (do not select Join Existing Site). 5. Use the same organization and site names. And from part 2: Question 35: If I have a good backup of the directory and information store and I am restoring a server to an existing site by reinstalling Exchange, should I select Create New Site or Join Existing Site during the Exchange installation? Answer: Be sure to select Create New Site. Do not select Join Existing Site. When you restart the server after restoring the databases, the restored server automatically synchronizes with existing servers in the site-even when you select Create New Site. If you attempt to Join Existing Site, you will receive an error because other servers in the site already have knowledge of the server you are restoring (its name matches the name of the crashed server). So I did that on all four machines using a Jan 1 backup... Directory connections work fine at that point (make a change on one and replicated out). It wasn't until I restored to December 13th that I had a problem. And all I did for that restore was a restore from an online backup (using Backup Exec). When that failed... I thought maybe it had to do with a bad exchange install so at this point I did uninstall and reinstall exchange (using above directiongs) and re-ran the restore. I finally got the one server to work by turning off the other directories. I agree that the directories would not co-exist or replicate... but where was my mistake. Am I misreading the DR. document? Obviously something went wrong... but I would like to figure out what my misstep was before it becomes a production issue. Appreciate your time Ed. Josh -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore problem on Exchange 5.5 - dir will not start The server you're restoring to has the same organization and site name as your production environment but was installed without joining the site, right? You don't want to do that kind of a restore to a production machine. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harmon, Josh Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore problem on Exchange 5.5 - dir will not start I've got a test environment where I've done multiple restores over the past four years. Currently it's setup in a pretty precise mirror image of what i have in production. 4 Exchange servers, same site, same org. I had to do a restore on one of the servers yesterday and bring it back to December 13th (yup... they deleted a file that fell outside of our 21 day recover deleted items window!). Anyway, after the restore from December 13th--the directory service wouldn't start, I finally got it to start by shutting down the other 3 exchange servers... and then the dir service started on the restored system. I could also start the exchange services on the other 3 systems. However, I still cannot shutdown the service on the restored exchange server and restart the directory service. No error event logs just the took too long to start error message on the Win2k server. The event log just shows a startup and a shutdown of the directory service. I thought it might have to do with the old date of the restore so I restored the server with the original dir and info store from Jan 1. Same result. Any ideas? All servers are Windows 2000 Server, sp2 Exchange 5.5 sp4 Did install ADC (from ex sp2 cd) on one of the AD servers in the testnetwork... although the service is stopped in all scenarios. Josh Harmon _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore problem on Exchange 5.5 - dir will not start
What you're seeing should absolutely not happen. Exchange doesn't go out and look for other servers. Something somebody did joined that server to your existing site. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harmon, Josh Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore problem on Exchange 5.5 - dir will not start Ed C. asks: The server you're restoring to has the same organization and site name as your production environment but was installed without joining the site, right? === Well... yes an no. When I first created the environment I did so following the DR whitepaper which says: 4. Select Create New Site (do not select Join Existing Site). 5. Use the same organization and site names. And from part 2: Question 35: If I have a good backup of the directory and information store and I am restoring a server to an existing site by reinstalling Exchange, should I select Create New Site or Join Existing Site during the Exchange installation? Answer: Be sure to select Create New Site. Do not select Join Existing Site. When you restart the server after restoring the databases, the restored server automatically synchronizes with existing servers in the site-even when you select Create New Site. If you attempt to Join Existing Site, you will receive an error because other servers in the site already have knowledge of the server you are restoring (its name matches the name of the crashed server). So I did that on all four machines using a Jan 1 backup... Directory connections work fine at that point (make a change on one and replicated out). It wasn't until I restored to December 13th that I had a problem. And all I did for that restore was a restore from an online backup (using Backup Exec). When that failed... I thought maybe it had to do with a bad exchange install so at this point I did uninstall and reinstall exchange (using above directiongs) and re-ran the restore. I finally got the one server to work by turning off the other directories. I agree that the directories would not co-exist or replicate... but where was my mistake. Am I misreading the DR. document? Obviously something went wrong... but I would like to figure out what my misstep was before it becomes a production issue. Appreciate your time Ed. Josh -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore problem on Exchange 5.5 - dir will not start The server you're restoring to has the same organization and site name as your production environment but was installed without joining the site, right? You don't want to do that kind of a restore to a production machine. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harmon, Josh Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore problem on Exchange 5.5 - dir will not start I've got a test environment where I've done multiple restores over the past four years. Currently it's setup in a pretty precise mirror image of what i have in production. 4 Exchange servers, same site, same org. I had to do a restore on one of the servers yesterday and bring it back to December 13th (yup... they deleted a file that fell outside of our 21 day recover deleted items window!). Anyway, after the restore from December 13th--the directory service wouldn't start, I finally got it to start by shutting down the other 3 exchange servers... and then the dir service started on the restored system. I could also start the exchange services on the other 3 systems. However, I still cannot shutdown the service on the restored exchange server and restart the directory service. No error event logs just the took too long to start error message on the Win2k server. The event log just shows a startup and a shutdown of the directory service. I thought it might have to do with the old date of the restore so I restored the server with the original dir and info store from Jan 1. Same result. Any ideas? All servers are Windows 2000 Server, sp2 Exchange 5.5 sp4 Did install ADC (from ex sp2 cd) on one of the AD servers in the testnetwork... although the service is stopped in all scenarios. Josh Harmon _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Restore problem on Exchange 5.5 - dir will not start
What you're seeing should absolutely not happen. Exchange doesn't go out and look for other servers. Something somebody did joined that server to your existing site. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harmon, Josh Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore problem on Exchange 5.5 - dir will not start Ed C. asks: The server you're restoring to has the same organization and site name as your production environment but was installed without joining the site, right? === Well... yes an no. When I first created the environment I did so following the DR whitepaper which says: 4. Select Create New Site (do not select Join Existing Site). 5. Use the same organization and site names. And from part 2: Question 35: If I have a good backup of the directory and information store and I am restoring a server to an existing site by reinstalling Exchange, should I select Create New Site or Join Existing Site during the Exchange installation? Answer: Be sure to select Create New Site. Do not select Join Existing Site. When you restart the server after restoring the databases, the restored server automatically synchronizes with existing servers in the site-even when you select Create New Site. If you attempt to Join Existing Site, you will receive an error because other servers in the site already have knowledge of the server you are restoring (its name matches the name of the crashed server). So I did that on all four machines using a Jan 1 backup... Directory connections work fine at that point (make a change on one and replicated out). It wasn't until I restored to December 13th that I had a problem. And all I did for that restore was a restore from an online backup (using Backup Exec). When that failed... I thought maybe it had to do with a bad exchange install so at this point I did uninstall and reinstall exchange (using above directiongs) and re-ran the restore. I finally got the one server to work by turning off the other directories. I agree that the directories would not co-exist or replicate... but where was my mistake. Am I misreading the DR. document? Obviously something went wrong... but I would like to figure out what my misstep was before it becomes a production issue. Appreciate your time Ed. Josh _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Help Needed!
Why do you need Active directory for the restore? Heck, just install NT and Exchange 5.5, restore the Public Store, export all the public folders to PST (Exmerge) and move 'em over... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! The time is always right to do the right thing. - Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hooks, Tim Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Help Needed! Wow did I mess up... I cut all of our users over to a new Exchange 2000 server from 5.5 last week. That went fine. I followed all the instructions for shutting down the 5.5 server once and for all and did so today. I should have tested a bit more - once I deleted the 5.5 server from the organization I realized that only some of the 5.5 public folders had replicated. Problem #1 is I need to get some of that Public Folder data back. I welcome your suggestions on how to do so. Here is the plan I am working on (and problem #2) - build a 2000 server off the network, as its own domain (to keep computer name, domain name the same, etc for the restore), install Exchange 5.5 SP4, and then restore the 5.5 files from tape to this server - does this make sense to all of you? Or do you have a better idea? Problem #2 is I can't get active directory to install as it is not connected to the internet and reports a DNS error trying to resolve the FQDN. I have installed DNS and made this server the SOA and NS and a host record, as well as the default gateway and primary DNS server. Any ideas on how to get this working? Am I just missing an SOA record that has only single period in it or something like that? Thanks for your help - I really want to be home for Christmas ;-) Timothy Hooks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Help Needed!
Tada!! We have a winner. -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 7:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Help Needed! Why do you need Active directory for the restore? Heck, just install NT and Exchange 5.5, restore the Public Store, export all the public folders to PST (Exmerge) and move 'em over... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! The time is always right to do the right thing. - Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hooks, Tim Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Help Needed! Wow did I mess up... I cut all of our users over to a new Exchange 2000 server from 5.5 last week. That went fine. I followed all the instructions for shutting down the 5.5 server once and for all and did so today. I should have tested a bit more - once I deleted the 5.5 server from the organization I realized that only some of the 5.5 public folders had replicated. Problem #1 is I need to get some of that Public Folder data back. I welcome your suggestions on how to do so. Here is the plan I am working on (and problem #2) - build a 2000 server off the network, as its own domain (to keep computer name, domain name the same, etc for the restore), install Exchange 5.5 SP4, and then restore the 5.5 files from tape to this server - does this make sense to all of you? Or do you have a better idea? Problem #2 is I can't get active directory to install as it is not connected to the internet and reports a DNS error trying to resolve the FQDN. I have installed DNS and made this server the SOA and NS and a host record, as well as the default gateway and primary DNS server. Any ideas on how to get this working? Am I just missing an SOA record that has only single period in it or something like that? Thanks for your help - I really want to be home for Christmas ;-) Timothy Hooks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore Help Needed!
I was under the impression to do the restore you should rebuild the server just as it was - this one was a DC, etc, etc. No? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Help Needed! Tada!! We have a winner. -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 7:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Help Needed! Why do you need Active directory for the restore? Heck, just install NT and Exchange 5.5, restore the Public Store, export all the public folders to PST (Exmerge) and move 'em over... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! The time is always right to do the right thing. - Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hooks, Tim Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Help Needed! Wow did I mess up... I cut all of our users over to a new Exchange 2000 server from 5.5 last week. That went fine. I followed all the instructions for shutting down the 5.5 server once and for all and did so today. I should have tested a bit more - once I deleted the 5.5 server from the organization I realized that only some of the 5.5 public folders had replicated. Problem #1 is I need to get some of that Public Folder data back. I welcome your suggestions on how to do so. Here is the plan I am working on (and problem #2) - build a 2000 server off the network, as its own domain (to keep computer name, domain name the same, etc for the restore), install Exchange 5.5 SP4, and then restore the 5.5 files from tape to this server - does this make sense to all of you? Or do you have a better idea? Problem #2 is I can't get active directory to install as it is not connected to the internet and reports a DNS error trying to resolve the FQDN. I have installed DNS and made this server the SOA and NS and a host record, as well as the default gateway and primary DNS server. Any ideas on how to get this working? Am I just missing an SOA record that has only single period in it or something like that? Thanks for your help - I really want to be home for Christmas ;-) Timothy Hooks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restore
How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restore
MS , or third party product, may give an option to backup and restore mailbox is more robust way than via MAPI, in the future. And about your second sentence I hope you don't waste your time by restoring exchange boxes every 2-3 days. It is time for people here to look a bit beyond BLB is bad. the market has many new solutions, and an admin can backup both: ntbackup and BLB, for example. - Original Message - From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restore
Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 12:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to deal at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal written confirmation. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
Try doing a BLB with several hundred or several thousand users on an Exchange server and you can see why a BLB is BAD. It will take far more time and tons more tape than necessary. You obviously have an exception here with only 5 users, but then one would almost ask why you are running Exchange in the first place with so few users. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Amir El Aziq Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 5, 2001 07:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Restore Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 12:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change
Re: Restore
Thats not what I asked. As an enterprise level architect I appreciate the drawbacks of BLB in that situation. My point is that BLB is not bad for _everyone_. There is no drawback in doing BLB to the situation I described below. Or am I wrong? -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 13:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Try doing a BLB with several hundred or several thousand users on an Exchange server and you can see why a BLB is BAD. It will take far more time and tons more tape than necessary. You obviously have an exception here with only 5 users, but then one would almost ask why you are running Exchange in the first place with so few users. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Amir El Aziq Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 5, 2001 07:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Restore Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 12:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended
RE: Restore
If you need to restore from BLBs with 5 users there really something wrong. Check out the Ed never restore method in the FAQ. Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~ This space has been rented by: Http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Amir El Aziq Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore Thats not what I asked. As an enterprise level architect I appreciate the drawbacks of BLB in that situation. My point is that BLB is not bad for _everyone_. There is no drawback in doing BLB to the situation I described below. Or am I wrong? -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 13:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Try doing a BLB with several hundred or several thousand users on an Exchange server and you can see why a BLB is BAD. It will take far more time and tons more tape than necessary. You obviously have an exception here with only 5 users, but then one would almost ask why you are running Exchange in the first place with so few users. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Amir El Aziq Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 5, 2001 07:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Restore Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 12:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch
RE: Restore
Bad habits are Bad habits. If you have them, you will continue to use them. BLB's are a Bad Habit. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Amir El Aziq Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore Thats not what I asked. As an enterprise level architect I appreciate the drawbacks of BLB in that situation. My point is that BLB is not bad for _everyone_. There is no drawback in doing BLB to the situation I described below. Or am I wrong? -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 13:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Try doing a BLB with several hundred or several thousand users on an Exchange server and you can see why a BLB is BAD. It will take far more time and tons more tape than necessary. You obviously have an exception here with only 5 users, but then one would almost ask why you are running Exchange in the first place with so few users. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Amir El Aziq Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 5, 2001 07:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Restore Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 12:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive
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And about your second sentence I hope you don't waste your time by restoring exchange boxes every 2-3 days. I know how to admin my exchange boxes. I have never, nor will I ever need to restore a single mailbox. I use proven methods, not the crutch termed BLB. Now go away you TROLL Matthew No. No. Please don't give me all the details. It's more fun if you keep me in the dark. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore MS , or third party product, may give an option to backup and restore mailbox is more robust way than via MAPI, in the future. And about your second sentence I hope you don't waste your time by restoring exchange boxes every 2-3 days. It is time for people here to look a bit beyond BLB is bad. the market has many new solutions, and an admin can backup both: ntbackup and BLB, for example. - Original Message - From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
-Original Message- From: Amir El Aziq To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 05/10/01 13:03 Subject: Re: Restore Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. You have reduced the scale of your exchange system to a size where the bad points of BLBs have not yet reared up and bit your mythical scenario admin. That still doesn't make BLBs a good idea, in the same way that one hit of heroin probably won't kill you, but it still might not be a good idea to take some. I could send all of your users a bunch of large emails (say 5 emails of 100mb to all 5 users) and your single-instance-storage-breaking BLB backup isn't quite so elegant anymore. Regards -- Robert Moir, Microsoft Backoffice MVP IT Systems Engineer, Luton Sixth Form College Imagine how much money could be saved by putting Furbies on front line Helpdesk -- This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or unauthorized employees of the intended organisations is strictly prohibited. The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the views or policies of Luton Sixth Form College, its employees or students. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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because it's not the way Exchange was designed, and you want to have your third-party solutions be designed to work with your mission critical apps, not the other way around. Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net The last time somebody listened to a Bush, folks wandered in the desert for 40 years -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 4:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
Possible corruption of the store. Increased tape drive usage, which will result in a shorter lifespan for your tape drive. The wrath of the list. :P Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net We cannot do evil to others without doing it to ourselves. -- Joseph Francois Eduard Desmahis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amir El Aziq Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 12:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing
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assuming she has the time in the day, yes. Assuming the BLB doesn't corrupt the database, like it did at my company -- the mail admin is still getting crap from the CEO for losing parts of his mail. When I was still admin-ing Exchange on a regular basis, there WAS no BLB -- and yet, somehow, I wasn't restoring from backup every two or three days. Deleted Item Retention and Dumpsteralwayson are all you really need, unless you actually have a disaster -- and then you're doing a disaster recovery anyway. Can it work? Sure. Can you guarantee it will work? Heck, no. Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore MS , or third party product, may give an option to backup and restore mailbox is more robust way than via MAPI, in the future. And about your second sentence I hope you don't waste your time by restoring exchange boxes every 2-3 days. It is time for people here to look a bit beyond BLB is bad. the market has many new solutions, and an admin can backup both: ntbackup and BLB, for example. - Original Message - From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Restore
What are these new solutions??? Unless something has changed, BLB is still the same as it always wasBAD -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore It is time for people here to look a bit beyond BLB is bad. the market has many new solutions, and an admin can backup both: ntbackup and BLB, for example. - Original Message - From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restore
Possible corruption of the store. Hmmm... Increased tape drive usage, which will result in a shorter lifespan for your tape drive. Uh huh.. The wrath of the list. :P List wrath I've got a theory that it's a similar concept to Road Rage. Because listers don't have to meet each other (much), its easier to sling mud and make dodgy vernacular gestures without ever considering the consequences. I reckon half the people on this list would actually get on pretty well with the ones they slagg off, if they ever met them. [1] [1] There will always be exceptions [2] [2] I hate you all [3] [3] Not all, just some.[4] [4] I may have loved those people in a previous life _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
No soup for you! John Allhiser MCSE CCNA Network Engineer Business Men's Assurance -Original Message- From: Amir El Aziq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore Possible corruption of the store. Hmmm... Increased tape drive usage, which will result in a shorter lifespan for your tape drive. Uh huh.. The wrath of the list. :P List wrath I've got a theory that it's a similar concept to Road Rage. Because listers don't have to meet each other (much), its easier to sling mud and make dodgy vernacular gestures without ever considering the consequences. I reckon half the people on this list would actually get on pretty well with the ones they slagg off, if they ever met them. [1] [1] There will always be exceptions [2] [2] I hate you all [3] [3] Not all, just some.[4] [4] I may have loved those people in a previous life _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
Posting twice, Go punish your self -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore What are these new solutions??? Unless something has changed, BLB is still the same as it always wasBAD -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore It is time for people here to look a bit beyond BLB is bad. the market has many new solutions, and an admin can backup both: ntbackup and BLB, for example. - Original Message - From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
Why BLB = BAD. A true tale from my last company. After 3 months of banging their heads, the idiots at a remote site got BLB restores to work in test. So they ran it on the production box. I was adamant that the Exchange online backup be run first. That took about 2-3 hours. The BLB took over 12 hours. So, the VP needed a message restored from the previous day that was shift-deleted. Can't do it yet. BLB was still in progress. He has to wait. The next day, they restore his mailbox. And the message was not there! VP is unhappy. So they go to the next day's tape (a day later). Still no message. Seems like it came and went between BLB's. VP is now beyond irate. Calls the CIO. Who calls me. I have DumpsterAlwaysOn. Go into VP's mailbox and give him his message in 2 minutes. Oh yes, most of their problems were permissions/UghServe related. So the full restore did not work. While they had practiced restores, they never opened a mailbox. Just accepted the logging information that the restore was complete. Do not waste your time on BLB. Deleted Items Retention, DumpsterAlwaysOn on an admin workstation, Circular logging OFF. Practice restores. Read the FAQ. Sleep easy. And keep the untrained away from the server. Michael Herrick Groton CIT Messaging Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Possible corruption of the store. Increased tape drive usage, which will result in a shorter lifespan for your tape drive. The wrath of the list. :P Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net We cannot do evil to others without doing it to ourselves. -- Joseph Francois Eduard Desmahis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amir El Aziq Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 12:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Restore
I totally second that opinion ! Could not have said it better myself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Herrick, Michael Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:36 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Why BLB = BAD. A true tale from my last company. After 3 months of banging their heads, the idiots at a remote site got BLB restores to work in test. So they ran it on the production box. I was adamant that the Exchange online backup be run first. That took about 2-3 hours. The BLB took over 12 hours. So, the VP needed a message restored from the previous day that was shift-deleted. Can't do it yet. BLB was still in progress. He has to wait. The next day, they restore his mailbox. And the message was not there! VP is unhappy. So they go to the next day's tape (a day later). Still no message. Seems like it came and went between BLB's. VP is now beyond irate. Calls the CIO. Who calls me. I have DumpsterAlwaysOn. Go into VP's mailbox and give him his message in 2 minutes. Oh yes, most of their problems were permissions/UghServe related. So the full restore did not work. While they had practiced restores, they never opened a mailbox. Just accepted the logging information that the restore was complete. Do not waste your time on BLB. Deleted Items Retention, DumpsterAlwaysOn on an admin workstation, Circular logging OFF. Practice restores. Read the FAQ. Sleep easy. And keep the untrained away from the server. Michael Herrick Groton CIT Messaging Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Possible corruption of the store. Increased tape drive usage, which will result in a shorter lifespan for your tape drive. The wrath of the list. :P Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net We cannot do evil to others without doing it to ourselves. -- Joseph Francois Eduard Desmahis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amir El Aziq Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 12:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Restore
takes too DAMN long... and not worth its weight -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore What are these new solutions??? Unless something has changed, BLB is still the same as it always wasBAD -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore It is time for people here to look a bit beyond BLB is bad. the market has many new solutions, and an admin can backup both: ntbackup and BLB, for example. - Original Message - From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Restore
BravoBravo..Bravo.. You BLB users, keep doing what your doing, you make us True Exchange Admins look like geniuses.. -Original Message- From: Herrick, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Why BLB = BAD. A true tale from my last company. After 3 months of banging their heads, the idiots at a remote site got BLB restores to work in test. So they ran it on the production box. I was adamant that the Exchange online backup be run first. That took about 2-3 hours. The BLB took over 12 hours. So, the VP needed a message restored from the previous day that was shift-deleted. Can't do it yet. BLB was still in progress. He has to wait. The next day, they restore his mailbox. And the message was not there! VP is unhappy. So they go to the next day's tape (a day later). Still no message. Seems like it came and went between BLB's. VP is now beyond irate. Calls the CIO. Who calls me. I have DumpsterAlwaysOn. Go into VP's mailbox and give him his message in 2 minutes. Oh yes, most of their problems were permissions/UghServe related. So the full restore did not work. While they had practiced restores, they never opened a mailbox. Just accepted the logging information that the restore was complete. Do not waste your time on BLB. Deleted Items Retention, DumpsterAlwaysOn on an admin workstation, Circular logging OFF. Practice restores. Read the FAQ. Sleep easy. And keep the untrained away from the server. Michael Herrick Groton CIT Messaging Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Possible corruption of the store. Increased tape drive usage, which will result in a shorter lifespan for your tape drive. The wrath of the list. :P Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net We cannot do evil to others without doing it to ourselves. -- Joseph Francois Eduard Desmahis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amir El Aziq Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 12:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: Restore
There's no point to it either. - Original Message - From: Amir El Aziq [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Restore Thats not what I asked. As an enterprise level architect I appreciate the drawbacks of BLB in that situation. My point is that BLB is not bad for _everyone_. There is no drawback in doing BLB to the situation I described below. Or am I wrong? -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 13:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Try doing a BLB with several hundred or several thousand users on an Exchange server and you can see why a BLB is BAD. It will take far more time and tons more tape than necessary. You obviously have an exception here with only 5 users, but then one would almost ask why you are running Exchange in the first place with so few users. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Amir El Aziq Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 5, 2001 07:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Restore Scenario: 5 users in the organisation. 1 server for file/print/email Full Online Exchange backup every night. Exchange BLB every night also. Data backup every night. All backups complete in 3 hours, on 1 tape. Please explain to me why doing a BLB is bad in this scenario. -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 12:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Because BLB SUCK Donkey Sausage!!! And if an exchange admin needs BLB's then he doesn't know how to admin his Exchange Box. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Restore How can you know it will always a bad thing? - Original Message - From: Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Restore Still is a bad thing, it will always be a bad thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system
Re: Restore
Heck, a buncha us from the list were together last night. And the night before, etc. I love MEC. Missy - Original Message - From: Amir El Aziq [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:30 AM Subject: Re: Restore Possible corruption of the store. Hmmm... Increased tape drive usage, which will result in a shorter lifespan for your tape drive. Uh huh.. The wrath of the list. :P List wrath I've got a theory that it's a similar concept to Road Rage. Because listers don't have to meet each other (much), its easier to sling mud and make dodgy vernacular gestures without ever considering the consequences. I reckon half the people on this list would actually get on pretty well with the ones they slagg off, if they ever met them. [1] [1] There will always be exceptions [2] [2] I hate you all [3] [3] Not all, just some.[4] [4] I may have loved those people in a previous life _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
Dude, buy a book or a bookstore...you asked more questions today, then most people ask in a year..Maybe we can get your payroll department to send your check to this lists elders Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Van Huissteden, Adriaan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
Sure. You can in Exchange 5.5 as well. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Van Huissteden, Adriaan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 10:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
Wasnt that a bad thing to do in 5.5 , wouldnt also be true in 2k ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 23:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore
how do you like your tea? -Original Message- From: Van Huissteden, Adriaan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore Can you backup and Restore individual Mailboxes on Exchange Server 2K? Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore of directory.
Moving the directory around would not fix the -1018 error because moving the database to a different drive will not fix corruption. The -1018 errors are usually caused by faulty hardware, but poor administrative practices can help these occur, for instance, not properly shutting down servers before turning off the power. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Semiglia, Michael Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore of directory. Hi all, Exchange 5.5 on NT 4. Veritas Backup Exec and TSM/ADSM backup solution. We had some issues recently where we had a corrupted directory on a server and I had a brain cramp in implementing the restore. Looking back, it was definitely an oversight on my part, however even after the 20/20 hindsight, I see no easy way around the problem. We were doing service pack updates on all of our servers from NT SP4 to NT SP6a and then from Exchange SP2 to SP4. Prior to packing the servers I had an online and offline back available. This was server number 18 out of 19. Work had been commencing over a 3 month period and all our servers are on Compaq proliants with the same h/w and s/w configuration. Installed both NT SP6a and Exchange SP4 on this particular server with no unusual entries in the event logs. However on the next backup of the directory using backup exec, started getting the following -1018 errors: Event Type: Error Event Source: ESE97 Event Category: Database Page Cache Event ID: 118 Date: 8/12/2001 Time: 11:50:27 AM User: N/A Computer: CAEEXP01 Description: MSExchangeDS (471) Direct read found corrupted page (25075) with error -1018. Please restore the databases from a previous backup. The indication in technet was that there is a hardware issue. At that point, using perfopt, moved the directory around to different physical/logical hard drives. Also ran the eseutil with the verify switch. Moving the directory around still caused the above error and the eseutil program returned no errors. At this point I tried using the TSM/ADSM backup solution that we were rolling out and this caused the same -1018 error. This pretty much told me that there was no issue with the backup solution and sort of exonerated the h/w. At this point I decided to do a restore of the directory from the last good backup I had, which was the night prior to the service pack work. I placed the tape in and kicked of the restore. Now for all of you reading along, this is where you go You can't do that. The braincramp is that the server is at NT SP6a and Exchange SP4 now and the backup set is at NT SP4 and Exchange SP2. The disaster recovery whitepaper specifically states that the service pack levels need to be the same as the backed up copy. I also realized that after I kicked of the restore. The restore finished successfully and all I need to do was start the directory. At this point, I said just let me see what happens. I had an online and offline backup of the corrupted directory and could return to the point I was prior to doing the restore. After starting the directory it started replaying log files and the came up with the following error: Event Type: Error Event Source: ESE97 Event Category: Logging/Recovery Event ID: 134 Date: 8/25/2001 Time: 2:22:18 PM User: N/A Computer: CAEEXP01 Description: (501) The database s:\exchsrvr\DSADATA\dir.edb created at 10/22/1997 20:51:54 was not recovered. After that, I got a bunch of table rebuilds indicating that something was aware that the restored directory was NT SP4 and the OS was now NT SP6a. After that everything came up smoothly. No errors anywhere in sight. I then performed a backup and it worked w/o and errors on both backup exec and the TSM/ADSM backups. I really don't understand the above error. Anybody have any insights on that one? I guess my question is, is the directory all right or should I run as fast as I can to the server an turned it off before it poisons my entire organization. Thank You! Michael Semiglia Exchange E-mail Engineering *207 575-1094 *[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access
Hi: I also forgot to notice that when I double clicked on the mailbox resource and received an error: The object cannot be found in the directory. This is because replication has not completed. c1010aae This is a stand alone server for restores only so I am wondering how do I get around this issue? I have searched the Swynk archives but I have not found anything. Thank you, Erik L. Vesneski Internal Network Manager Epicentric, Inc. -Original Message- From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access Hi: I did a restore (redirection) and have the services running. I have installed Outlook and have logged in as Admin and whenever I do this I cannot bring up anyone else's email accounts that require a restore. What else am I missing? I did the rehoming of PF's, did the IS/DS consistency adjuster and rean the isinteg -patch. Any other ideas? I did notice under the mailboxes that there are none however under mailbox resources when you look in the IS Priv area under Exchange Admin there is mail in the mailbox accounts. Thank you, Erik L. Vesneski Internal Network Manager Epicentric, Inc. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access
Erik, You didn't resore the directory, did you? You should restore only the IS, and the KCC will create the directory for you. -tom -Original Message- From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access Subject: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access Hi: I did a restore (redirection) and have the services running. I have installed Outlook and have logged in as Admin and whenever I do this I cannot bring up anyone else's email accounts that require a restore. What else am I missing? I did the rehoming of PF's, did the IS/DS consistency adjuster and rean the isinteg -patch. Any other ideas? I did notice under the mailboxes that there are none however under mailbox resources when you look in the IS Priv area under Exchange Admin there is mail in the mailbox accounts. Thank you, Erik L. Vesneski Internal Network Manager Epicentric, Inc. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access
Is Admin the service account? I don't see to what extent you did a restore, or I'm just missing it, but if it is, is this ADMIN the same GUID as the old one? Maybe http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q152/8/08.ASP can help, in case it's confused. One of those things where I delete Joe CEO's account, and even if I create another account named JOECEO, it's not the same GUID and therefore I'm still fired. If that ain't it, I fold. -Original Message- From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:04 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access Subject: RE: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access Hi: Yes, that was all that was restored just the stores. Thank you, Erik L. Vesneski Internal Network Manager Epicentric, Inc. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access Erik, You didn't resore the directory, did you? You should restore only the IS, and the KCC will create the directory for you. -tom -Original Message- From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:11 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access Subject: Restore of Exchange 5.5 But Not Mail Account Access Hi: I did a restore (redirection) and have the services running. I have installed Outlook and have logged in as Admin and whenever I do this I cannot bring up anyone else's email accounts that require a restore. What else am I missing? I did the rehoming of PF's, did the IS/DS consistency adjuster and rean the isinteg -patch. Any other ideas? I did notice under the mailboxes that there are none however under mailbox resources when you look in the IS Priv area under Exchange Admin there is mail in the mailbox accounts. Thank you, Erik L. Vesneski Internal Network Manager Epicentric, Inc. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]