[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter 
 larry.potter@ wrote:
 
  This is humeristic column, bob, but it seems that you missed 
that 
  point, why I'm not surprised ?
  
  cut and and paste and put things out of context seems to be the
  tactic for you.
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   Listen to how Joshua and Caleb describe the inhabitants of 
 Canaan—
  the 
   people who rightfully possess the land the Israelites want to 
   seize: Have no fear then of the people of the country, for 
they 
  are 
   our prey (my italics). Prey—that's a breathtaking and 
 sinister 
   word! Again we're reminded that the Torah is not aspiring to 
be 
 a 
  book 
   for everyone. It is not preaching universal truth for all men. 
 It 
  is 
   the work of a single tribe at war with everyone around it. 
Their 
   enemies were not human: They were prey.
   
   http://www.slate.com/id/2146473/entry/2146669/?nav=tap3
 
 Hi Larry,
 
 After reading Bob's insights about Israel, the Bible,and the Jews, 
I 
 thought I'd share an article written by Dennis Prager. He 
addresses 
 how many Jews would react to Bob's apparent beliefs. Great timing 
 Bob, I'm sure the Seattle Jewish Community will be thrilled to 
read 
 your in-depth analysis of the value of the old testament to 
society. 
 Bob, do us a favor and stick to something you know about- Bevan:
 
 On Jan. 21 in Paris, a gang of Muslims intent on kidnapping Jews 
 kidnapped 23-year-old Ilan Halimi. Reciting verses from the Koran 
in 
 phone conversations demanding money from the family, they 
ultimately 
 rejected the money and tortured Halimi to death. They kept him 
naked 
 for weeks while they cut him up and finally poured flammable 
liquid 
 over his skin and burned him alive. 
 When Jews read this story, they see themselves as Halimi and think 
 that such a thing could happen to them somewhere in the world 
today 
 and somewhere in the world at any time in the past. 
 
 If you want to understand how Jews think and behave, you must 
first 
 understand how large antisemitism and the Holocaust loom in the 
 psyche, emotions and minds of the vast majority of Jews. 
 
 It could not be otherwise. 
 
 While ethnic, racial, religious and national hatreds are as old as 
 mankind, none has been as universal and as deep as hatred of Jews. 
 
 Jew-hatred was given the name anti-Semitism only in 1879 by a 
 German anti-Semite named Wilhelm Marr. The term is entirely 
 misleading since it has nothing to do with Semites. Jews may be 
 Semites, but so are Arabs, and antisemitism never meant hatred of 
 Arabs, only of Jews. 
 
 Jew-hatred or antisemitism has been so deep that tens of millions 
of 
 people have equated the Jews with the devil and many more have 
 desired that the Jews be erased from the Earth. Such an attempt 
was 
 made only one generation ago in what is called the Holocaust (or 
 Shoah, the Hebrew term). This was the German Nazi attempt to 
murder 
 every Jewish man, woman and child, which resulted in the murder of 
 two out of every three Jews in Europe. 
 
 To give an idea of how many Jews have been murdered for being 
Jews, 
 all one needs to do is look at population statistics. Scholars 
 estimate the population of the Roman Empire at about 60 million at 
 the time of Jesus. According to the dean of Jewish historians, 
 Professor Salo Baron, at that time Jews comprised about 10 percent 
 of the population. That means that 2,000 years ago there were 
about 
 6 million Jews. It is also estimated that at that time, the 
world's 
 population was about 200 million. 
 
 Today the world's population is over 6 billion. While the world's 
 population is about 30 times larger than 2,000 years ago, the 
Jewish 
 population has barely doubled. Had Jews been left alone to 
procreate 
 at the same rate as others, there would be about 180 million Jews 
in 
 the world today. Moreover, even the 6 million number for the Roman 
 empire represented a huge loss of population due to extensive 
 killing of Jews in the 12 centuries from their inception. 
 
 It is true that Jewish population losses have been also due to 
 assimilation, but this assimilation was itself overwhelmingly a 
 result of persecution




Not true...at least not true for America: today, 50% of Jews marry 
non-Jews and this is NOT a result of persecution.  Jews in America 
enjoy a freedom of living unprecedented in history when considering 
Jews living as a minority in a country.

Alan Dershowitz wrote a whole book on this.








 -- forced conversions, desire to lead a far 
 safer life as part of the majority culture, etc. In fact, because 
of 
 the Holocaust, there are fewer Jews today than there were 100 
years 
 ago. 
 
 One can now understand why the Passover Haggadah -- the special 
 prayer book for the Passover Seder meal, first written about 2,000 
 years ago -- 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ 

[snip]

 
 
 
 Not true...at least not true for America: today, 50% of Jews marry 
 non-Jews and this is NOT a result of persecution.  Jews in America 
 enjoy a freedom of living unprecedented in history when 
considering 
 Jews living as a minority in a country.
 
 Alan Dershowitz wrote a whole book on this.

[snip]

Here's something on that book from Amazon.com:

Most recently in the spotlight as one of the many defense lawyers 
attending O. J. Simpson in his first criminal trial, attorney Alan 
M. Dershowitz is also a powerful advocate for the liberal Jewish 
tradition in this country. In an earlier book, Chutzpah, Dershowitz 
celebrated an end to Jewish isolation and institutional anti-
Semitism in America; in his latest book, The Vanishing American Jew, 
he decries the perhaps inevitable result of this desegregation: 
assimilation. 

Dershowitz writes powerfully about his fear that, with nothing to 
struggle against and no powerful motivation to maintain traditions, 
American secular Jews will, within a few generations, lose their 
Jewishness. The author writes from a privileged position: raised an 
Orthodox Jew, he embraced secular Judaism in his young adulthood and 
thus comes equipped with an intimate understanding of what he has 
chosen to reject and accept. Though Dershowitz has no definitive 
answers for the problem of The Vanishing American Jew, the questions 
he raises may be the first step in discovering a solution. --This 
text refers to the Hardcover edition.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?

2006-07-30 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Listen to how Joshua and Caleb describe the inhabitants of Canaan—
the 
 people who rightfully possess the land the Israelites want to 
 seize: Have no fear then of the people of the country, for they are 
 our prey (my italics). Prey—that's a breathtaking and sinister 
 word! Again we're reminded that the Torah is not aspiring to be a 
book 
 for everyone. It is not preaching universal truth for all men. It is 
 the work of a single tribe at war with everyone around it. Their 
 enemies were not human: They were prey.
 
 http://www.slate.com/id/2146473/entry/2146669/?nav=tap3


One of the most absurd passages I've encountered in the Bible is this 
one from 2. Kings:

23 And he went up from thence unto Beth-el; and as he was going up by 
the way, there came forth young lads out of the city, and mocked him, 
and said unto him, Go up, thou baldhead; go up, thou baldhead. 
24 And he looked behind him and saw them, and cursed them in the name 
of Jehovah. And there came forth two she-bears out of the wood, and 
tare forty and two lads of them. 
25 And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned 
to Samaria. 

It's weird that most English translations have she-bears,
but Vulgata has duo ursi, which is a masculine expression.
Corresponding feminine  would IMO be duae ursae.

24 qui cum se respexisset vidit eos et maledixit eis in nomine Domini 
egressique sunt duo ursi de saltu et laceraverunt ex eis quadraginta 
duos pueros






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[FairfieldLife] Clinton is gay -- Ann Coulter

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
From my brother:

I dislike Letterman, but he occasionally nails a 
thing right on the head.

Apparently, professional controversialist Ann 
Coulter went on some cable interview show and 
claimed that Clinton's rampant promiscuity does 
show some level of latent homosexuality. That's 
an actual quote from her interview (which is not 
on the clip linked below). 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_YzbODb9To

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 23 And he went up from thence unto Beth-el; and as he 
 was going up by the way, there came forth young lads 
 out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, 
 Go up, thou baldhead; go up, thou baldhead. 
 24 And he looked behind him and saw them, and cursed 
 them in the name of Jehovah. And there came forth two 
 she-bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two lads 
 of them. 

And there's been trouble bruin in the Middle East
ever since.

Reminds me of a story told by singer/bard Robin
Williamson. A man in a bar was poking fun at his
bald neighbor, and finally reached up and rubbed
the man's smooth head and said, Baldy, baldy,
baldy...that feels just like...just like my wife's 
behind!

The bald man reached up and rubbed his own head
and said, So it does.

:-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Satvic wave misses Seattle?

2006-07-30 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
babajii_99@
  wrote:
   
   Who cares about snipping your stupid posts;
   That's not quite as bad as calling someone insane.
   I have my opinions and my experience.
   There is nothing to 'do' in TM;
   It is a matter of transcending and producing the effect;
   Of calm light and sanity, in the atmosphere and in the world.
   Any snip of any of your judgemental stupid remarks is not going 
 to 
   change anything.
   Your words are cheap;
   And I resent your judgements, when you don't know me and know 
 nothing 
   about me.
   So, stick that up your French Ass!
  
  American living in France, not French. 
  
  There's a difference, just ask the French. :-)
  
  I don't think you ever answered my question:
  were you serious in suggesting that the reason
  these gruesome murders happened was because of
  your absence, or not?
 
 [...] I was not saying the murders happened
 because of me or not me. I was saying that
 someone who is meditating in an area; Is having
 the effect of bring peace and coherence to that
 area. In a way, it was tongue in cheek, to feel
 that I could have that kind of power; to bring
 peace to the whole city of Seattle. [...]
 
 
 
  If you were joking, and
  I missed it, I apologize most profusely. If,
  on the other hand, you were serious, I stand
  by my earlier statement.
 

Well, now that a day or two has gone by;
And I have had time to comtemplate this heated exchange...
I must say there have been times;
In my experience, when I have felt a certain sychronicity;
In my life, and travels;
And sometimes, being a little bi-polar;
I have had deep lows and high, highs.

So, I did not mean to get so down and dirty and crude;
I was just going off; I felt angry.

But with the recent events in Seattle,
With the attack on the Jewish Center;
By this Muslim sicko,
I must admit, I am not quite powerful enough;
To balance the vibes in Seattle right now..(I'm a Libra; we need to 
balance).

I have felt since arriving back here, in Seattle,
That the atmosphere has changed and does feel different...
It has a 'void' quality to it; a very isolated feeling.
A certain feeling of 'darkness'.

Do, to these feelings, although I was thinking of settling;
Here, because it is quite beautiful;
I have second thoughts,
And just might return to 'Mad City'
Where although it is more 'small town';
It has a better feeling overall.

Reporting from Seattle, Washington-  Robert Gimbel, hangin' in 
there...








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[FairfieldLife] 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'

2006-07-30 Thread Robert Gimbel



Iran supports Hezbollah.  Iran cannot be trusted.  The leader of Iran is a replica of Adolf Hitler.  His statedgoal is to wipe out the United States and Israel.  We have the power to stop him quickly and painlessly.  We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs,   Of 10-20 megaton capacity.  We can vaporize Iran in short time.  We invested enormousamounts of money;  Developing these weapons;  Whenelse would they be used;  If not in this current situation with the madness;  OfIran.  R.Gimbel Seattle,WA. 
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[FairfieldLife] Shrii Shankara's commentary on II 45

2006-07-30 Thread cardemaister
Translation by Swami Gambhirananda

2.45 To those who are thus devoid of discriminating wisdom, who
indulge in pleasure, [Here Ast. adds 'yat phalam tad aha, what result
accrues, that the Lord states:'-Tr.] O Arjuna, vedah, the Vedas;
traigunya-visayah, have the three qualities as their object, have the 
three
gunas, [Traigunya means the collection of the three qualities, viz 
sattva
(purity), rajas (energy) and tamas (darkness); i.e. the collection of
virtuous, vicious and mixed activities, as also their results. In this
derivative sense traigunya means the worldly life.] i.e. the worldly 
life, as
the object to be revealed. But you bhava, become; nistraigunyah, free
from the three qualities, i.e. be free from desires. [There is a 
seeming
conflict between the advices to be free from the three qualities and 
to be
ever-poised in the quality of sattva. Hence, the Commentator takes the
phrase nistraigunya to mean niskama, free from desires.] (Be)
nirdvandvah, free from the pairs of duality -- by the word dvandva,
duality, are meant the conflicting pairs [Of heat and cold, etc.] 
which are
the causes of happiness and sorrow; you become free from them. [From
heat, cold, etc. That is, forbear them.] You become nitya-sattvasthah,
ever-poised in the quality of sattva; (and) so also niryoga-ksemah,
without (desire for) acquisition and protection. Yoga means 
acquisition of
what one has not, and ksema means the protection of what one has. For
one who as 'acquisition and protection' foremost in his mind, it is 
difficult to seek Liberation. Hence, you be free from acquisition and 
protection.
And also be atmavan, self-collected, vigilant. This is the advice 
given to
you while you are engaged in your own duty. [And not from the point of
view of seeking Liberation.]






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Satvic wave misses Seattle?

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Well, now that a day or two has gone by;
 And I have had time to comtemplate this heated exchange...
 I must say there have been times;
 In my experience, when I have felt a certain sychronicity;
 In my life, and travels;
 And sometimes, being a little bi-polar;
 I have had deep lows and high, highs.
 
 So, I did not mean to get so down and dirty and crude;
 I was just going off; I felt angry.

And in the same day or two I have realized that 
I had no business being judgmental about your 
beliefs, whatever they might be. I retract my 
original comment, apologize profusely, and wish 
you well with whatever you choose to believe. 

I feel the same about the people attending this
course. I may not share your belief that it will
do some good for the Middle East and for the
world, but in this case I fervently hope that
I am wrong.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shrii Shankara's commentary on II 45

2006-07-30 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Translation by Swami Gambhirananda
 
 2.45 To those who are thus devoid of discriminating wisdom, who
 indulge in pleasure, [Here Ast. adds 'yat phalam tad aha, what 
result
 accrues, that the Lord states:'-Tr.] O Arjuna, vedah, the Vedas;
 traigunya-visayah, have the three qualities as their object, have 
the 
 three
 gunas, [Traigunya means the collection of the three qualities, viz 
 sattva
 (purity), rajas (energy) and tamas (darkness); i.e. the collection 
of
 virtuous, vicious and mixed activities, as also their results. In 
this
 derivative sense traigunya means the worldly life.] i.e. the 
worldly 
 life, as
 the object to be revealed. But you bhava, become; nistraigunyah, 
free
 from the three qualities, i.e. be free from desires. [There is a 
 seeming
 conflict between the advices to be free from the three qualities 
and 
 to be
 ever-poised in the quality of sattva. Hence, the Commentator takes 
the
 phrase nistraigunya to mean niskama, free from desires.] (Be)
 nirdvandvah, free from the pairs of duality -- by the word dvandva,
 duality, are meant the conflicting pairs [Of heat and cold, etc.] 
 which are
 the causes of happiness and sorrow; you become free from them. [From
 heat, cold, etc. That is, forbear them.] You become nitya-
sattvasthah,
 ever-poised in the quality of sattva; (and) so also niryoga-ksemah,
 without (desire for) acquisition and protection. Yoga means 
 acquisition of
 what one has not, and ksema means the protection of what one has. 
For
 one who as 'acquisition and protection' foremost in his mind, it is 
 difficult to seek Liberation. Hence, you be free from acquisition 
and 
 protection.
 And also be atmavan, self-collected, vigilant. This is the advice 
 given to
 you while you are engaged in your own duty. [And not from the point 
of
 view of seeking Liberation.]


A vishiSTaadvaita view of the same (Shrii Raamaanuja):

2.45 The word Traigunya means the three Gunas --- Sattva, Rajas and
Tamas. Here the term Traigunya denotes persons in whom Sattva, Rajas
and Tamas are in abundance. The Vedas in prescribing desire-oriented
rituals (Kamya-karmas) have such persons in view. Because of their
great love, the Vedas teach what is good to those in whom Tamas,
Rajas and Sattva preponderate. If the Vedas had not explained to these
persons the means for the attainment of heaven etc., according to the
Gunas, then those persons who are not interested in liberation owing 
to
absence of Sattva and preponderance of Rajas and Tamas in them,
would get completely lost amidst what should not be resorted to,
without knowing the means for attaining the results they desire. Hence
the Vedas are concerned with the Gunas. Be you free from the three
Gunas. Try to acquire Sattva in abundance; increase that alone. The
purport is: do not nurse the preponderance of the three Gunas in their
state of inter-mixture; do not cultivate such preponderance. Be free
from the pairs of opposites; be free from all the characteristics of 
worldly
life. Abide in pure Sattva; be established in Sattva, in its state of 
purity
without the admixture of the other two Gunas. If it is questioned how
that is possible, the reply is as follows. Never care to acquire 
things nor
protect what has been acquired. While abandoning the acquisition of
what is not required for self-realisation, abandon also the 
conservation of
such things already acquired. You can thus be established in self-
control
and thereby become an aspirant after the essentail nature of the self.
'Yoga' is acquisition of what has not been acquired; 'Ksema' is
preservation of things already acquired. Abandoning these is a must 
for
an aspirant after the essential nature of the self. If you conduct 
yourself
in this way, the preponderance of Rajas and Tamas will be annihilated,
and pure Sattva will develop. Besides, all that is taught in the 
Vedas is
not fit to be utilised by all.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   Iran supports Hezbollah.
   Iran cannot be trusted.
   The leader of Iran is a replica of Adolf Hitler.
   His stated goal is to wipe out the United States and Israel.
   We have the power to stop him quickly and painlessly.
   We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs, 
   Of 10-20 megaton capacity.
   We can vaporize Iran in short time.
   We invested enormous amounts of money;
   Developing these weapons;
   When else would they be used;
   If not in this current situation with the madness;
   Of Iran.

I am assuming that you are commenting on the likelihood
of this happening, not advocating it. With that in mind,
my friends from Los Alamos tell me that the United States
is now officially building more *new* nuclear weapons
each month (small tactical nukes this time) than they 
did at the height of the Cold War. This does not bode 
well for the planet, IMO.

Can Maharishi call for a WPA in Santa Fe? It's a nice
place...lots of spas and Ayurvedic clinics...

I saw anti-nuclear activist Dr. Helen Caldicott speak
in Santa Fe once, and she told an interesting story
about one of her trips to the Soviet Union, and her
perspective on how the Cold War ended. She showed her
presentation on the medical effects of nuclear war
(I've seen it...it's horrifying, and something that 
really hasn't been seen by most people on the planet 
*including* most of the world leaders since the 1950s) 
at a symposium at which Gorbachev was present. According
to her, after the presentation he wept openly onstage
(Gorbachev has children), held her hand and promised to
do what he could to end the madness. Shortly afterwards
the first real advances in nuclear disarmament began to
take place.

Just a comment with regard to your belief that one 
person can make a difference. 

Nukes are not an option. Anyone who has seen what they 
do to the human beings who survive the initial blast 
would know that. Unless they don't consider these people 
human beings, of course...








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Master's article, May 2005

2006-07-30 Thread nablus108
Aiding the cause of peace 
by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme 

It is frequently the case that, in acting for what is seen by them 
as the good of the world, countries wreak havoc on a world scale. So 
dense are the fogs of glamour which surround their actions, so 
illusory is their thinking, that great harm may be done, and much 
pain and suffering caused, for the best of reasons. 

Thus it is today. In recent times, the USA, under the banner of `the 
war against terrorism', has invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, causing 
thousands of civilian deaths and great physical damage to their 
infrastructures. The Taliban, fanatical and rigid but, in the main, 
uninvolved in terrorism, are dispersed but are now regrouping, 
training in the skills of terror. In Iraq, Saddam Hussein is no 
more, but a terrible legacy of deprivation and suffering, 
lawlessness and chaos, has replaced his baleful regime. 

Now the attention of the US administration has turned to Syria, Iran 
and North Korea; they are warned to change or face the wrath and 
might of the upholders of `peace', and the champions of `liberty' in 
the world. 

Thus does America plunge the world into the atmosphere of stress and 
fear, and thus do these give fruit to epidemics and natural 
disasters, which, in turn, serve to increase the fear and stress. 

Dangerous 

What can be done to stabilize this dangerous situation? How can the 
nations keep America in check? By what means can ordinary people 
bring their weight to bear? These are large questions and have, 
indeed, no simple answers. They require wisdom of an exceptional 
order and a co-ordinated approach. 

Firstly, the world must realize the true nature of the problem: the 
USA today is led by men responsive to a nefarious energy which 
prompts their actions and puts peace in jeopardy. It stimulates 
their glamour for power of an international extent, and threatens 
the peace of the world. It has outposts in Israel and Eastern 
Europe, Israel being the major focus. This destructive energy 
derives, though in diminished potency, from that which plunged the 
world into chaotic war during the twentieth century and which, men 
thought, was safely put to rest. 

It can be seen, therefore, how necessary it is that there be peace 
in the Middle East; how necessary it is that the Palestinians have 
true justice and a viable homeland. This is the most important 
problem facing men today. Failure to solve it would be disastrous 
for the world. 

Overcome 

It will take the combined resources of wisdom and will of both 
Hierarchy and men to overcome, finally, this malignant force. A 
clear understanding by men of the true nature of the threat is thus 
imperative. Men must organize and act in unison. They must call for 
an end of oppression of the Palestinian people and so end the fear 
which haunts the people of Israel. The United Nations must bring all 
possible pressure to bear on both America and Israel, standing up to 
the superpower and aid the cause of peace. The peoples of the world 
are already on the march. They must raise their voices and demand 
that peace be theirs. They are the inheritors of the future and must 
fashion it in peace. 

We, the Masters, your Elder Brothers, will do Our part but We are 
hampered by your lack of understanding and will. Hence these words. 

Act without fear. Be wise and diligent in your actions and all will 
be well.

 







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[FairfieldLife] 'Nuclear Shock Awe...'

2006-07-30 Thread Robert Gimbel



Wouldn't it be nice, to really create some shock and awe;  Where it would count right now;  Not like the fake shock and awe of the last invasion;  Where we were fighting a paper tiger...But to confront the real monster;  The one with lots of reserves of it's own yellow cake uranium mine, galore.  The one with plenty of oil reserves who pussy's up to China and Venezuela.  The Evil One in Tehran; who threatens the right to exist of the Western World.Do we stand by, sticking our heads in the ground.  Do we blame Israel for trying to rid the world of evil Hezbollah- suicidal pseudo-Nazis...Or do we provide some meaningful shock and awe, for our own defense;  And for the defense of freedom in this world.  Who else isfilled to the brim with missiles ready to launch; 
 Who else runs the world's economy.Iran would like to convince the other world power players,  That the holocaust is a Jewish myth, and the United States, should be destroyed.  Just like Adolf Hitler in the 1930's spelled out his intentions.  The Iranians have spelled out there intentions,clearly.We need the shock and awe, strategy now..  That was misused before, in Iraq.  We need to stop them in their tracks;  In this window of opportunity, that will be lost.  If we fail to act.  If George Bush is a war president;  He certainly looks very weak right now;  Giving the Israelis a bad name;  For fighting the demon Hezbollah;  When the United States, hides behind a woman's skirt.  The Arabs certainly don't respect a woman diplomat.  The don't even
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Somebody Tell Mel That Jesus Was Jewish'

2006-07-30 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Gibson's Anti-Semitic Tirade -- Alleged Cover Up 
 Posted Jul 28th 2006 9:15PM by TMZ Staff
 Filed under: Celebrity Justice
   TMZ has learned that Mel Gibson went on a rampage when he was
 arrested Friday on suspicion of drunk driving, hurling religious
 epithets. 

Mel Gibson's statement regarding his arrest:

After drinking alcohol on Thursday night, I did a number of things
that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. I drove a car when I
should not have, and was stopped by the L.A. County sheriffs. The
arresting officer was just doing his job and I feel fortunate that I
was apprehended before I caused injury to any other person.

I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested,
and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are
despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said and I apologize
to anyone who I have offended.

Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the deputies involved
for my belligerent behavior. They have always been there for me in my
community and indeed probably saved me from myself. I disgraced myself
and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry.

I have battled the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and
profoundly regret my horrific relapse. I apologize for any behavior
unbecoming of me in my inebriated state and have already taken
necessary steps to ensure my return to health.

Source: http://tinyurl.com/lvwm3

Yeah, right, Mel... alcohol, which lowers inhibitions, made you say
things you don't believe to be true.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Somebody Tell Mel That Jesus Was Jewish'

2006-07-30 Thread Peter


--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Gibson's Anti-Semitic Tirade -- Alleged Cover Up 
  Posted Jul 28th 2006 9:15PM by TMZ Staff
  Filed under: Celebrity Justice
TMZ has learned that Mel Gibson went on a
 rampage when he was
  arrested Friday on suspicion of drunk driving,
 hurling religious
  epithets. 
 
 Mel Gibson's statement regarding his arrest:
 
 After drinking alcohol on Thursday night, I did a
 number of things
 that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. I
 drove a car when I
 should not have, and was stopped by the L.A. County
 sheriffs. The
 arresting officer was just doing his job and I feel
 fortunate that I
 was apprehended before I caused injury to any other
 person.
 
 I acted like a person completely out of control
 when I was arrested,
 and said things that I do not believe to be true and
 which are
 despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said
 and I apologize
 to anyone who I have offended.
 
 Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the
 deputies involved
 for my belligerent behavior. They have always been
 there for me in my
 community and indeed probably saved me from myself.
 I disgraced myself
 and my family with my behavior and for that I am
 truly sorry.
 
 I have battled the disease of alcoholism for all of
 my adult life and
 profoundly regret my horrific relapse. I apologize
 for any behavior
 unbecoming of me in my inebriated state and have
 already taken
 necessary steps to ensure my return to health.
 
 Source: http://tinyurl.com/lvwm3
 
 Yeah, right, Mel... alcohol, which lowers
 inhibitions, made you say
 things you don't believe to be true.

The damn Jews must have made him say it.



 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] todays course update: Record Gains

2006-07-30 Thread George DeForest













  Wall 
Street Soars! 


Posts Record Gains During First Week of 
Invincibility Course 
  
Group of 1200 Yogic Flyers in Washington , D.C. , and Iowa 

Creating a Coherent, Invincible Nation 
  
"We Are Transforming America Before the Eyes of the World, 


Watch What Happens Tomorrow" 
   
HEADLINES 
OF THE WEEK 
July 24 - 30, 2006 
  Good 
News Generated by the Invincible America Course 
   
CNBC: 
"Wall Street Euphoria" 

  CNBC: 
"Blissful Shock" 
  MSNBC: 
"Market Sizzles: Wall Street chalks up best weekly gain 
since 2005" 
  Briefing.com: 
"Stocks surge across the board" 
  The 
Washington Post: "Oil prices fall as US takes step to end 
Mid-east war" 
   

  
(July 
29, 2006)
   
 
The good news is now in from the first week of the Invincible 
America Course. 
  The 
stock market soared this week, posting its highest weekly 
gain in 14 months, and the price of oil dropped sharply as 
the U.S. mobilized international support for a Mideast cease 
fire.
  Credit 
for this sudden and unexpected upsurge of positive news goes 
to the 1200 peace-creating experts assembled in Washington, 
D.C., and Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, who have been practicing 
Yogic Flying together in groups for the past week to create 
coherent national consciousness -- the basis for a more positive, 
invincible America, according to world-renowned quantum physicist 
Dr. John Hagelin, who is leading the Invincible America Course. 

  Rising 
stock markets and declining oil prices are strong indicators 
of growing optimism and confidence in the country's economic 
future. Experts predicted that the upheaval in the Middle 
East would depress Wall Street and send oil prices skyrocketing. 
To the surprise of most economists, the opposite occurred. 
"This unshakeable national psychology is due to the stabilizing 
influence of the Yogic Flyers on the collective consciousness 
of the nation," Dr. Hagelin said. 

  Dr. 
Hagelin said the good news was predicted publicly in advance 
based on 30 years of published scientific research on the 
collective effects of the Transcendental Meditation program 
and its more advanced Yogic Flying technique. 
  "The 
research proves that as little as the square root of one percent 
of the population of a country practicing Yogic Flying together 
in a group is sufficient to reduce negative trends and strengthen 
positive social and economic tendencies throughout the entire 
population," said Dr. Hagelin, who serves as the Director 
of the Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy 
at Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa. 

  Dr. 
Hagelin explained that the number of Yogic Flyers required 
to produce this coherent effect for the United States is 1730. 
However, he said, the initial group of 1200 experts is more 
than enough to create a calming, stabilizing effect in national 
consciousness. 
  "As 
the number of Yogic Flyers rises to 2000 in the coming days, 
the world press will be reporting better and better economic 
and social news. We are transforming the nation before the 
eyes of the world. I urge the press to watch what happens 
tomorrow," Dr. Hagelin said. 


  
  





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Nuclear Shock Awe...'

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   If George Bush is a war president;
   He certainly looks very weak right now;
   Giving the Israelis a bad name;
   For fighting the demon Hezbollah;
   When the United States, hides behind a woman's skirt.
   The Arabs certainly don't respect a woman diplomat.
   The don't even consider her or us to be human...

Er...excuse me, but aren't you the same person 
who just posted:

 Iran supports Hezbollah.
 Iran cannot be trusted.
 The leader of Iran is a replica of Adolf Hitler.
 His stated goal is to wipe out the United States and Israel.
 We have the power to stop him quickly and painlessly.
 We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs,
 Of 10-20 megaton capacity.
 We can vaporize Iran in short time.
 We invested enormous amounts of money;
 Developing these weapons;
 When else would they be used;
 If not in this current situation with the madness;
 Of Iran.

How 'considering them human' is that?

And now the Irani people (the ones you seem to want 
to nuke) are 'demons,' 'the real monster,' 'The Evil 
One in Tehran,' 'the world of evil Hezbollah,' and 
'suicidal pseudo-Nazis.' 

My apology before was sincere and heartfelt, but I'm
starting to have my doubts about the peace-bringing
influence you're having on Seattle, and starting to
lean back towards my original comment. I'm not trying
to be mean here, just pointing out that your rhetoric
sounds to me pretty much the same as that of Hezbollah.

If you were serious before about considering yourself
an influence on your home town, I honestly think that
you should look into what it is you're really sharing.
From my point of view, your posts this morning share a 
common mindstate with the very people you want to use
nuclear weapons on. Seems to me that the mote in your 
own eye is coloring the logs you're ranting about.

You know you've created God in your own image 
when he hates the exact same people that you do.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Somebody Tell Mel That Jesus Was Jewish'

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
 wrote:
 
  Gibson's Anti-Semitic Tirade -- Alleged Cover Up 
  Posted Jul 28th 2006 9:15PM by TMZ Staff
  Filed under: Celebrity Justice
TMZ has learned that Mel Gibson went on a rampage when he was
  arrested Friday on suspicion of drunk driving, hurling religious
  epithets. 
 
 Mel Gibson's statement regarding his arrest:
snip 
 I acted like a person completely out of control

Acted like a person completely out of control??

Interesting assertion *from an actor*.

 when I was arrested,
 and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are
 despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said and I apologize
 to anyone who I have offended.

Anyone?  How about everyone?

 I apologize for any behavior
 unbecoming of me in my inebriated state

Any behavior?
 
 Yeah, right, Mel... alcohol, which lowers inhibitions, made you say
 things you don't believe to be true.

You said it.  It's striking how he has managed to
*distance* himself from his behavior throughout
that apology.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: todays course update: Record Gains

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
 Rising stock markets and declining oil prices are strong indicators 
 of growing optimism and confidence in the country's economic future. 
 Experts predicted that the upheaval in the Middle East would depress 
 Wall Street and send oil prices skyrocketing. To the surprise of most 
 economists, the opposite occurred.

Somebody ought to tell 'em they're making it
sound as though it's fine if the bloodshed in
the Middle East continues as long as it doesn't
hurt the U.S. stock market.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: todays course update: Record Gains

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
Uh...excuse me, but I have this hazy memory that 
the rhetoric leading up to this course was mainly
about the crisis in the Middle East and the need 
to do something to help bring peace there. Wasn't
there a phrase about 'If you want to see tomorrow?

Now somehow the focus of the press releases is all 
about 'Invincible America' and how its stock market 
fluctuations are probably enabling people there to
make more money. Why?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5228224.stm

Oh. Never mind.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: todays course update: Record Gains

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Rising stock markets and declining oil prices are strong indicators 
  of growing optimism and confidence in the country's economic future. 
  Experts predicted that the upheaval in the Middle East would depress 
  Wall Street and send oil prices skyrocketing. To the surprise of most 
  economists, the opposite occurred.
 
 Somebody ought to tell 'em they're making it
 sound as though it's fine if the bloodshed in
 the Middle East continues as long as it doesn't
 hurt the U.S. stock market.

And Americans' ability to send money to the TMO.
Exactly.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   Listen to how Joshua and Caleb describe the inhabitants of 
 Canaan—
  the 
   people who rightfully possess the land the Israelites want to 
   seize: Have no fear then of the people of the country, for 
they 
 are 
   our prey (my italics). Prey—that's a breathtaking and 
 sinister 
   word! Again we're reminded that the Torah is not aspiring to be 
 a 
  book 
   for everyone. It is not preaching universal truth for all men. 
 It is 
   the work of a single tribe at war with everyone around it. 
Their 
   enemies were not human: They were prey.
   
   http://www.slate.com/id/2146473/entry/2146669/?nav=tap3
  
 
 
  I'm sorry, but it's just plain silly to pull some
  negative-sounding bit out of a scripture written
  thousands of years ago, then turn around and point
  fingers at the people whose scripture it is and
  sneer, See?  See?
 
 
 The point I was making was that things have not changed over the 
 course of thousands of years -- a single tribe at war with
 everyone around it.

Obviously.  That's the point I was saying was
silly.

 As far as your claim that this is scripture belonging 
 only to Jews,

I did not make such a claim, Bob.  Don't put words in
my mouth, please.

 that's not true, as the Book of Numbers is part of 
 both Christian and Islamic tradition. If you don't like the tone of 
 Numbers 13, you probably will also not like Numbers 31, in which 
 Moses tells his soldiers to kill everybody in an enemy tribe,
 except virgin girls:

Says Bob, completely missing *my* point.

And Jesus said one should hate one's mother
and father and not even bother to give them
a decent burial when they die (in a scripture
that's considerably less ancient).

You can find things that sound offensive to
modern sensibilities in virtually any ancient
scripture.

We mock Christian fundies for taking the Bible
literally, then we turn around and do the same
thing when we want to slam Jews.

In many if not most cases, such passages in
ancient scripures are either metaphorical in
some sense, or aren't the point of the scripture
at all; or they reflect the way the society
thought *then*, in a vastly different time and
vastly different situations.

As I pointed out to Curtis not long ago, the
Jews have a long, long history of humanitarian
ethics and social-justice activism on behalf of
the poor and oppressed, all grounded in the very
same scriptures you and he hold up to scorn.






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[FairfieldLife] Invincible America?

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
 rant mode ON 

The *last* thing this planet needs is an invincible
America. 

IMO the only good thing to come out of the Iraq invasion
and the recent invasion of Lebanon is that they have 
demonstrated that both the United States and Israel,
*far* from being invincible with their stockpiles of
the latest and greatest weapons on the planet, are 
basically helpless when dealing with a people who 
believe that they are fighting for the preservation 
of their own country and their way of life. All that 
both countries have done is demonstrated their own 
*weakness*.

It's a lesson the French finally learned in Algeria
(after believing in their own invincibility for decades)
and tried to convey to the US when it invaded Iraq. But
it's a lesson that neither the United States or Israel
seem to get.

If the TM organization is going to claim that they're 
butt-bouncing for world peace, for chrissakes don't call 
the course Invincible America. What is probably fueling 
this stock market rise is surges in the Defense industry.
To quote from a post I made in 2002:

Before scrolling down, think for a moment and come up with a
figure you think represents the U.S. percentage of worldwide
arms sales.

From the U.S. Department of State website
(http://www.state.gov/t/vc/rls/rpt/wmeat/99_00/), Arms Sales
by Country, 1999 (latest available [at that time, and possibly
now]). The figure to the left is the ranking, figure to the 
right is the number of millions of dollars of sales, countries 
that sell 0 (less than a million) are left off.

Answer to the math question -- total up the arms sales by ALL
other countries on this list during 1999 and you get a combined
total of 18,680 million, or only 56.6% of the arms sold by the U.S.
during that same period. The United States sells 43.4% of the
weapons sold on the planet.

1 United States 33,000
2 United Kingdom 5,200
3 Russia 3,100
4 France 2,900
5 Germany 1,900
6 Sweden 675
7 Israel 600
8 Australia 550
9 Canada 550
10 Ukraine 550
11 Italy 380
12 China - Mainland 320
13 Belarus 310
14 Bulgaria 200
15 Korea, North 140
16 Netherlands 140
17 Indonesia 100
18 Greece 90
19 Czech Republic 80
20 Spain 70
21 Turkey 70
22 Finland 50
23 Switzerland 50
24 Romania 40
25 Austria 30
26 Belgium 30
27 Georgia 30
28 Libya 30
29 Mexico 30
30 Poland 30
31 South Africa 30
32 Brazil 20
33 China - Taiwan 20
34 Eritrea 20
35 Japan 20
36 Korea, South 20
37 Moldova 20
38 Norway 20
39 Serbia and Montenegro 20
40 Singapore 20
41 Chile 10
42 Croatia 10
43 Denmark 10
44 Hungary 10
45 India 10
46 Iran 10
47 Kazakhstan 10
48 Pakistan 10
49 Slovakia 10
50 Uzbekistan 10
51 Philippines 5

Dylan sung his song Masters Of War about AMERICA.
Nothing has changed since he sung it except that it
has become more convinced of its invincible mastery.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Invincible America? Libya now on side a good result

2006-07-30 Thread WLeed3





Libya, as a result in part of the Bush movesin Iraq 
diplomacyis now on side poised to enter the WTO, 
Having turned in its Chemical weapons Bio weapons  yellow cake as well as 
several cryons necuelar materials. All there items have the now been 
fully destroyed or rendered harmless.
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[FairfieldLife] You will not *believe* this!

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
Try this: when you click on the link below, look down
at the bottom of your screen while the page comes up,
instead of looking at the page.

When the page has loaded--still looking down at the
bottom of the screen--scroll down just a little bit
until the top few lines are off the screen.  Without
looking directly at what's on the screen, try to scroll
so the first bold paragraph is at the top of the screen.

Read that paragraph.  Below it is a link to a Real
Player audio clip, and below that is a transcript of
the conversation that's on the clip.  Listen to the
audio while following the transcript.

Who exactly is N'kisi?

I'm suggesting the scrolling maneuver because N'kisi
is identified in the first few lines at the top of the
screen, and I thought it might be fun to listen to the
clip without knowing who N'kisi is.

When you've heard the clip, scroll up to the top to
find out.

Or don't bother with the scrolling; it's still amazing
when you know beforehand who is talking.

But please don't give the game away here until other
folks have had a chance to try it!

http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Invincible America?

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From the U.S. Department of State website
 (http://www.state.gov/t/vc/rls/rpt/wmeat/99_00/), Arms Sales
 by Country, 1999 

Interestingly, this link is no longer functional, and
searching the current Department of State website
using the same title string 'Arms Sales by Country,'
I have been unable to locate either this page or any
like it. If anyone has more patience than I, give it
a try. Otherwise, I have to think that the government
of the country Maharishi wants to make invincible
no longer is willing to admit its percentage of 
worldwide arms sales.








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[FairfieldLife] 'Tehran Craves Those Nuclear Bombs' (part II)

2006-07-30 Thread Robert Gimbel



Time once again, folks;  Tocreate some reallybig,shock and awe;  Where it does-count right now;  Our eternal enemy's Persia...  Not like the fake shock of Paper Tiger, Saddam  The the Evil One himself, in a new form...  The New 'Der Fuhrer', , , But to confront the real monster;  Iran has plenty of it's own yellow cake...  The one with plenty of oil reserves whoschmoozes up to China and Venezuela.  The one in Iran, the President, who specifically want us destroyed...Do we pretend it's all just a bad dream; and we'll wake up and it will all be gone.  Or, do we think the Israelis, can take care of these suicidal maniacs, themselves;  While the rest of the world complains, having nothing to lose, themselves.  What needs to happen is we need to
 defend, and if nuclear shock and awe, be necessary, well so be it.  The missiles are there, we've had them for many years.  They would be ready to launch, at a moments notice...  As a matter of fact; I'm sure some are being serviced;  Right down the road here, in Seattle, off in Puget Sound.  They call the missile bay, where the missile silos are: "Sherwood Forest";  Cute, huh?Iran would like to convince the other world power players,  That the holocaust is a Jewish myth, and the United States, should be destroyed.  Just like Adolf Hitler in the 1930's spelled out his intentions.  The Iranians have spelled out there intentions,clearly.Sure it would beshock and awe, to millions of people around the world.  But, thathas beenmisused before, in Iraq.  Thewindow of
 opportunity, that will be lost.  If we fail to act.  George Bush is a weakwar president, now;  TheIsraelis a take the brunt of stuff, he does daily in Iraq;  For fighting thesesuicidaldemons called,Hezbollah;The United States, has a woman Secretary of State.  The Arabs certainly don't respect a woman diplomat.  The don't even consider her orus to be human...  We need to wake up to certain realities;  Of the Islamic way of thinking, which is quite destructive, and serious.R.Gimbel Seattle,WA. 
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[FairfieldLife] What does organic really mean?

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
From the NY Times:

What Does `Organic' Really Mean? 
 
By M. P. DUNLEAVEY

Published: July 29, 2006

I HAVE paid extra for a fair number of organic products, believing 
that they are healthier for me, my family and the environment.

And now it turns out that in some cases I should have saved my hard-
earned money. 

Sure, some items that are called organic are probably worth the extra 
cost because they are produced according to strict standards. But the 
labels on quite a few of them are not worth an extra cent, according 
to a study of organic food by Consumer Reports, a publication of the 
nonprofit Consumers Union.

Read more at:
http://tinyurl.com/mw56c








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Invincible America?

2006-07-30 Thread larry.potter
I'm not sure where you got the idea that Israel sees
itself as invincible ?  Being forced to defend yourself
is far from a feeling of invincibility.

invincible means being able to neutralize the enemy
before a war take place. Once you are in a war situation both 
sides have casualties, both sides lose, hence it's far from being
invincible to begin with.

I also doubt if Americans imagine that they are invincible after 
9/11 and with today's easy access to WMD.
America, and rightly so, sees  itself as a superpower but that's
different thing from being invincible.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  rant mode ON 
 
 The *last* thing this planet needs is an invincible
 America. 
 
 IMO the only good thing to come out of the Iraq invasion
 and the recent invasion of Lebanon is that they have 
 demonstrated that both the United States and Israel,
 *far* from being invincible with their stockpiles of
 the latest and greatest weapons on the planet,
 are 
 basically helpless when dealing with a people who 
 believe that they are fighting for the preservation 
 of their own country and their way of life. All that 
 both countries have done is demonstrated their own 
 *weakness*.
 
 It's a lesson the French finally learned in Algeria
 (after believing in their own invincibility for decades)
 and tried to convey to the US when it invaded Iraq. But
 it's a lesson that neither the United States or Israel
 seem to get.
 
 If the TM organization is going to claim that they're 
 butt-bouncing for world peace, for chrissakes don't call 
 the course Invincible America. What is probably fueling 
 this stock market rise is surges in the Defense industry.
 To quote from a post I made in 2002:
 
 Before scrolling down, think for a moment and come up with a
 figure you think represents the U.S. percentage of worldwide
 arms sales.
 
 From the U.S. Department of State website
 (http://www.state.gov/t/vc/rls/rpt/wmeat/99_00/), Arms Sales
 by Country, 1999 (latest available [at that time, and possibly
 now]). The figure to the left is the ranking, figure to the 
 right is the number of millions of dollars of sales, countries 
 that sell 0 (less than a million) are left off.
 
 Answer to the math question -- total up the arms sales by ALL
 other countries on this list during 1999 and you get a combined
 total of 18,680 million, or only 56.6% of the arms sold by the U.S.
 during that same period. The United States sells 43.4% of the
 weapons sold on the planet.
 
 1 United States 33,000
 2 United Kingdom 5,200
 3 Russia 3,100
 4 France 2,900
 5 Germany 1,900
 6 Sweden 675
 7 Israel 600
 8 Australia 550
 9 Canada 550
 10 Ukraine 550
 11 Italy 380
 12 China - Mainland 320
 13 Belarus 310
 14 Bulgaria 200
 15 Korea, North 140
 16 Netherlands 140
 17 Indonesia 100
 18 Greece 90
 19 Czech Republic 80
 20 Spain 70
 21 Turkey 70
 22 Finland 50
 23 Switzerland 50
 24 Romania 40
 25 Austria 30
 26 Belgium 30
 27 Georgia 30
 28 Libya 30
 29 Mexico 30
 30 Poland 30
 31 South Africa 30
 32 Brazil 20
 33 China - Taiwan 20
 34 Eritrea 20
 35 Japan 20
 36 Korea, South 20
 37 Moldova 20
 38 Norway 20
 39 Serbia and Montenegro 20
 40 Singapore 20
 41 Chile 10
 42 Croatia 10
 43 Denmark 10
 44 Hungary 10
 45 India 10
 46 Iran 10
 47 Kazakhstan 10
 48 Pakistan 10
 49 Slovakia 10
 50 Uzbekistan 10
 51 Philippines 5
 
 Dylan sung his song Masters Of War about AMERICA.
 Nothing has changed since he sung it except that it
 has become more convinced of its invincible mastery.
 
  rant mode OFF 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: You will not *believe* this!

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try this: when you click on the link below, look down
 at the bottom of your screen while the page comes up,
 instead of looking at the page.

Just a hint: 

If you want to preserve N'Kisi's anonymity as 
long as possible, tell your friends to click on
the direct link below (and that it requires 
RealPlayer) and listen to the conversation 
between Aimee, N'Kisi, and a talking toy:

http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1.ram

Then tell them to go to the web page below to 
find out who N'Kisi is and to read the transcript:

http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html

Good find.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: You will not *believe* this!

2006-07-30 Thread larry.potter
hahaha , nice :)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Try this: when you click on the link below, look down
 at the bottom of your screen while the page comes up,
 instead of looking at the page.
 
 When the page has loaded--still looking down at the
 bottom of the screen--scroll down just a little bit
 until the top few lines are off the screen.  Without
 looking directly at what's on the screen, try to scroll
 so the first bold paragraph is at the top of the screen.
 
 Read that paragraph.  Below it is a link to a Real
 Player audio clip, and below that is a transcript of
 the conversation that's on the clip.  Listen to the
 audio while following the transcript.
 
 Who exactly is N'kisi?
 
 I'm suggesting the scrolling maneuver because N'kisi
 is identified in the first few lines at the top of the
 screen, and I thought it might be fun to listen to the
 clip without knowing who N'kisi is.
 
 When you've heard the clip, scroll up to the top to
 find out.
 
 Or don't bother with the scrolling; it's still amazing
 when you know beforehand who is talking.
 
 But please don't give the game away here until other
 folks have had a chance to try it!
 
 http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html







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[FairfieldLife] Re: You will not *believe* this!

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Try this: when you click on the link below, look down
  at the bottom of your screen while the page comes up,
  instead of looking at the page.
 
 Just a hint: 
 
 If you want to preserve N'Kisi's anonymity as 
 long as possible, tell your friends to click on
 the direct link below (and that it requires 
 RealPlayer) and listen to the conversation 
 between Aimee, N'Kisi, and a talking toy:
 
 http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1.ram
 
 Then tell them to go to the web page below to 
 find out who N'Kisi is and to read the transcript:
 
 http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html

Thing is, it may be a little hard to understand
the words without the transcript; that's why I
suggested the scrolling manuever on the page
with the transcript.


 Good find.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Somebody Tell Mel That Jesus Was Jewish'

2006-07-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
  wrote:
  
   Gibson's Anti-Semitic Tirade -- Alleged Cover Up 
   Posted Jul 28th 2006 9:15PM by TMZ Staff
   Filed under: Celebrity Justice
 TMZ has learned that Mel Gibson went on a rampage when he was
   arrested Friday on suspicion of drunk driving, hurling religious
   epithets. 
  
  Mel Gibson's statement regarding his arrest:
 snip 
  I acted like a person completely out of control
 
 Acted like a person completely out of control??
 
 Interesting assertion *from an actor*.
 
  when I was arrested,
  and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are
  despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said and I apologize
  to anyone who I have offended.
 
 Anyone?  How about everyone?
 
  I apologize for any behavior
  unbecoming of me in my inebriated state
 
 Any behavior?
  
  Yeah, right, Mel... alcohol, which lowers inhibitions, made you say
  things you don't believe to be true.
 
 You said it.  It's striking how he has managed to
 *distance* himself from his behavior throughout
 that apology.


IIRC,  that's common addiction personality talk.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shrii Shankara's commentary on II 45

2006-07-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  Translation by Swami Gambhirananda
  
  2.45 To those who are thus devoid of discriminating wisdom, who
  indulge in pleasure, [Here Ast. adds 'yat phalam tad aha, what 
 result
  accrues, that the Lord states:'-Tr.] O Arjuna, vedah, the Vedas;
  traigunya-visayah, have the three qualities as their object, have 
 the 
  three
  gunas, [Traigunya means the collection of the three qualities, viz 
  sattva
  (purity), rajas (energy) and tamas (darkness); i.e. the collection 
 of
  virtuous, vicious and mixed activities, as also their results. In 
 this
  derivative sense traigunya means the worldly life.] i.e. the 
 worldly 
  life, as
  the object to be revealed. But you bhava, become; nistraigunyah, 
 free
  from the three qualities, i.e. be free from desires. [There is a 
  seeming
  conflict between the advices to be free from the three qualities 
 and 
  to be
  ever-poised in the quality of sattva. Hence, the Commentator takes 
 the
  phrase nistraigunya to mean niskama, free from desires.] (Be)
  nirdvandvah, free from the pairs of duality -- by the word dvandva,
  duality, are meant the conflicting pairs [Of heat and cold, etc.] 
  which are
  the causes of happiness and sorrow; you become free from them. [From
  heat, cold, etc. That is, forbear them.] You become nitya-
 sattvasthah,
  ever-poised in the quality of sattva; (and) so also niryoga-ksemah,
  without (desire for) acquisition and protection. Yoga means 
  acquisition of
  what one has not, and ksema means the protection of what one has. 
 For
  one who as 'acquisition and protection' foremost in his mind, it is 
  difficult to seek Liberation. Hence, you be free from acquisition 
 and 
  protection.
  And also be atmavan, self-collected, vigilant. This is the advice 
  given to
  you while you are engaged in your own duty. [And not from the point 
 of
  view of seeking Liberation.]
 
 
 A vishiSTaadvaita view of the same (Shrii Raamaanuja):
 
 2.45 The word Traigunya means the three Gunas --- Sattva, Rajas and
 Tamas. Here the term Traigunya denotes persons in whom Sattva, Rajas
 and Tamas are in abundance. The Vedas in prescribing desire-oriented
 rituals (Kamya-karmas) have such persons in view. Because of their
 great love, the Vedas teach what is good to those in whom Tamas,
 Rajas and Sattva preponderate. If the Vedas had not explained to these
 persons the means for the attainment of heaven etc., according to the
 Gunas, then those persons who are not interested in liberation owing 
 to
 absence of Sattva and preponderance of Rajas and Tamas in them,
 would get completely lost amidst what should not be resorted to,
 without knowing the means for attaining the results they desire. Hence
 the Vedas are concerned with the Gunas. Be you free from the three
 Gunas. Try to acquire Sattva in abundance; increase that alone. The
 purport is: do not nurse the preponderance of the three Gunas in their
 state of inter-mixture; do not cultivate such preponderance. Be free
 from the pairs of opposites; be free from all the characteristics of 
 worldly
 life. Abide in pure Sattva; be established in Sattva, in its state of 
 purity
 without the admixture of the other two Gunas. If it is questioned how
 that is possible, the reply is as follows. Never care to acquire 
 things nor
 protect what has been acquired. While abandoning the acquisition of
 what is not required for self-realisation, abandon also the 
 conservation of
 such things already acquired. You can thus be established in self-
 control
 and thereby become an aspirant after the essentail nature of the self.
 'Yoga' is acquisition of what has not been acquired; 'Ksema' is
 preservation of things already acquired. Abandoning these is a must 
 for
 an aspirant after the essential nature of the self. If you conduct 
 yourself
 in this way, the preponderance of Rajas and Tamas will be annihilated,
 and pure Sattva will develop. Besides, all that is taught in the 
 Vedas is
 not fit to be utilised by all.


Wow. That seems so superficial and WRONG compared to MMY's commentary.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?

2006-07-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
  wrote:
   
Listen to how Joshua and Caleb describe the inhabitants of 
  Canaan—
   the 
people who rightfully possess the land the Israelites want to 
seize: Have no fear then of the people of the country, for 
 they 
  are 
our prey (my italics). Prey—that's a breathtaking and 
  sinister 
word! Again we're reminded that the Torah is not aspiring to be 
  a 
   book 
for everyone. It is not preaching universal truth for all men. 
  It is 
the work of a single tribe at war with everyone around it. 
 Their 
enemies were not human: They were prey.

http://www.slate.com/id/2146473/entry/2146669/?nav=tap3
   
  
  
   I'm sorry, but it's just plain silly to pull some
   negative-sounding bit out of a scripture written
   thousands of years ago, then turn around and point
   fingers at the people whose scripture it is and
   sneer, See?  See?
  
  
  The point I was making was that things have not changed over the 
  course of thousands of years -- a single tribe at war with
  everyone around it.
 
 Obviously.  That's the point I was saying was
 silly.
 
  As far as your claim that this is scripture belonging 
  only to Jews,
 
 I did not make such a claim, Bob.  Don't put words in
 my mouth, please.
 
  that's not true, as the Book of Numbers is part of 
  both Christian and Islamic tradition. If you don't like the tone of 
  Numbers 13, you probably will also not like Numbers 31, in which 
  Moses tells his soldiers to kill everybody in an enemy tribe,
  except virgin girls:
 
 Says Bob, completely missing *my* point.
 
 And Jesus said one should hate one's mother
 and father and not even bother to give them
 a decent burial when they die (in a scripture
 that's considerably less ancient).
 
 You can find things that sound offensive to
 modern sensibilities in virtually any ancient
 scripture.
 
 We mock Christian fundies for taking the Bible
 literally, then we turn around and do the same
 thing when we want to slam Jews.
 
 In many if not most cases, such passages in
 ancient scripures are either metaphorical in
 some sense, or aren't the point of the scripture
 at all; or they reflect the way the society
 thought *then*, in a vastly different time and
 vastly different situations.
 
 As I pointed out to Curtis not long ago, the
 Jews have a long, long history of humanitarian
 ethics and social-justice activism on behalf of
 the poor and oppressed, all grounded in the very
 same scriptures you and he hold up to scorn.


Different part of the scriptures.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: todays course update: Record Gains

2006-07-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Rising stock markets and declining oil prices are strong indicators 
  of growing optimism and confidence in the country's economic future. 
  Experts predicted that the upheaval in the Middle East would depress 
  Wall Street and send oil prices skyrocketing. To the surprise of most 
  economists, the opposite occurred.
 
 Somebody ought to tell 'em they're making it
 sound as though it's fine if the bloodshed in
 the Middle East continues as long as it doesn't
 hurt the U.S. stock market.


Eh. Ithink the point is supposed to be see, it's working. Come join us in 
creating a better 
USA.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
Whoa.

The frightening thing about this post is that the logic and 
rationale is, sadly, right.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Iran supports Hezbollah.
   Iran cannot be trusted.
   The leader of Iran is a replica of Adolf Hitler.
   His stated goal is to wipe out the United States and Israel.
   We have the power to stop him quickly and painlessly.
   We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs, 
   Of 10-20 megaton capacity.
   We can vaporize Iran in short time.
   We invested enormous amounts of money;
   Developing these weapons;
   When else would they be used;
   If not in this current situation with the madness;
   Of Iran.


   R.Gimbel  Seattle,WA.
 
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: You will not *believe* this!

2006-07-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try this: when you click on the link below, look down
 at the bottom of your screen while the page comes up,
 instead of looking at the page.
 
 When the page has loaded--still looking down at the
 bottom of the screen--scroll down just a little bit
 until the top few lines are off the screen.  Without
 looking directly at what's on the screen, try to scroll
 so the first bold paragraph is at the top of the screen.
 
 Read that paragraph.  Below it is a link to a Real
 Player audio clip, and below that is a transcript of
 the conversation that's on the clip.  Listen to the
 audio while following the transcript.
 
 Who exactly is N'kisi?
 
 I'm suggesting the scrolling maneuver because N'kisi
 is identified in the first few lines at the top of the
 screen, and I thought it might be fun to listen to the
 clip without knowing who N'kisi is.
 
 When you've heard the clip, scroll up to the top to
 find out.
 
 Or don't bother with the scrolling; it's still amazing
 when you know beforehand who is talking.
 
 But please don't give the game away here until other
 folks have had a chance to try it!
 
 http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html


I tend NOT to believe it (could be wrong of course). It would cost less than 
$100 to have a 
web cam focused on the bird, recording the interactions but they didn't bother 
to film it 
or, to publish the movie if it was filmed.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: What does organic really mean?

2006-07-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From the NY Times:
 
 What Does `Organic' Really Mean? 
  
 By M. P. DUNLEAVEY
 
 Published: July 29, 2006
 
 I HAVE paid extra for a fair number of organic products, believing 
 that they are healthier for me, my family and the environment.
 
 And now it turns out that in some cases I should have saved my hard-
 earned money. 
 
 Sure, some items that are called organic are probably worth the extra 
 cost because they are produced according to strict standards. But the 
 labels on quite a few of them are not worth an extra cent, according 
 to a study of organic food by Consumer Reports, a publication of the 
 nonprofit Consumers Union.
 
 Read more at:
 http://tinyurl.com/mw56c


If course Maharishi Organic has a specific meaning, above and beyond what the 
US calls 
organic, but no-one should bother buying from them...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton is gay -- Ann Coulter

2006-07-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  From my brother:
  
  I dislike Letterman, but he occasionally nails a 
  thing right on the head.
 
 
 I'm sorry, I may have missed it: what's the connection between 
 Letterman and Coulter?
 

She turned him down?

 
  
  Apparently, professional controversialist Ann 
  Coulter went on some cable interview show and 
  claimed that Clinton's rampant promiscuity does 
  show some level of latent homosexuality. That's 
  an actual quote from her interview (which is not 
  on the clip linked below). 
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_YzbODb9To
  
  :-)
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
 wrote:
 
Iran supports Hezbollah.
Iran cannot be trusted.
The leader of Iran is a replica of Adolf Hitler.
His stated goal is to wipe out the United States and Israel.
We have the power to stop him quickly and painlessly.
We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs, 
Of 10-20 megaton capacity.
We can vaporize Iran in short time.
We invested enormous amounts of money;
Developing these weapons;
When else would they be used;
If not in this current situation with the madness;
Of Iran.
 
 I am assuming that you are commenting on the likelihood
 of this happening, not advocating it.



Uh, I don't think so, Barry.  

I think we have to take Robert's words as they appear here: he is 
advocating the use of America's nuclear weapons against Iran...now.

Perhaps you made the assumption you do above (that Robert was 
commenting on the likelihood of this happening, not advocating that 
it actually be done) because you had just finished writing that 
conciliatory post to Robert.

Or you can't imagine anyone on this forum (or anywhere for that 
matter!) advocating the use of nuclear weapons.

May I suggest that you NOT make the assumption you did above and now 
respond to what Robert has actually written...that he does, in fact, 
advocate the dropping of nuclear weapons on his fellow human beings.


 With that in mind,
 my friends from Los Alamos tell me that the United States
 is now officially building more *new* nuclear weapons
 each month (small tactical nukes this time) than they 
 did at the height of the Cold War. This does not bode 
 well for the planet, IMO.
 
 Can Maharishi call for a WPA in Santa Fe? It's a nice
 place...lots of spas and Ayurvedic clinics...
 
 I saw anti-nuclear activist Dr. Helen Caldicott speak
 in Santa Fe once, and she told an interesting story
 about one of her trips to the Soviet Union, and her
 perspective on how the Cold War ended. She showed her
 presentation on the medical effects of nuclear war
 (I've seen it...it's horrifying, and something that 
 really hasn't been seen by most people on the planet 
 *including* most of the world leaders since the 1950s) 
 at a symposium at which Gorbachev was present. According
 to her, after the presentation he wept openly onstage
 (Gorbachev has children), held her hand and promised to
 do what he could to end the madness. Shortly afterwards
 the first real advances in nuclear disarmament began to
 take place.
 
 Just a comment with regard to your belief that one 
 person can make a difference. 
 
 Nukes are not an option. Anyone who has seen what they 
 do to the human beings who survive the initial blast 
 would know that. Unless they don't consider these people 
 human beings, of course...







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[FairfieldLife] Wikipedia

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
The New Yorker's July 31, 2006 edition has a very good article on the 
phenomena of Wikipedia.  It's available on-line here:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060731fa_fact





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton is gay -- Ann Coulter

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  From my brother:
  
  I dislike Letterman, but he occasionally nails a 
  thing right on the head.
 
 I'm sorry, I may have missed it: what's the connection between 
 Letterman and Coulter?

Do you see that little line down below that 
starts with 'http' and is either underlined
or in a different color font on your screen?
That's what we call a 'link.' 

You 'click' on the link to see where it takes
you. Clicking is done by placing the mouse
cursor over the link and pressing the left
mouse button, or on a Mac, the button, period.

  Apparently, professional controversialist Ann 
  Coulter went on some cable interview show and 
  claimed that Clinton's rampant promiscuity does 
  show some level of latent homosexuality. That's 
  an actual quote from her interview (which is not 
  on the clip linked below). 
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_YzbODb9To
  
  :-)








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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'

2006-07-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/30/06 3:09:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Iran supports Hezbollah.
  Iran cannot be trusted.
  The leader of Iran is a replica of Adolf Hitler.
  His statedgoal is to wipe out the United States and Israel.
  We have the power to stop him quickly and painlessly.
  We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs, 
  Of 10-20 megaton capacity.
  We can vaporize Iran in short time.
  We invested enormousamounts of money;
  Developing these weapons;
  Whenelse would they be used;
  If not in this current situation with the madness;
  OfIran.
  
  
  R.Gimbel Seattle,WA.

CBNNews - Focus- 
Inside Iran: Signs of the Apocalypse This is an interesting view of 
what Ahmadinejad has in store for the world. He actually believes he can create 
enough chaos in the world to bring back the Madhi. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Nuclear Shock Awe...'

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

[snip]

 
 You know you've created God in your own image 
 when he hates the exact same people that you do.
 -- Gordon Charrick


I like the following anecdote told by Quentin Crisp about the time he 
gave a lecture in Northern Ireland (from The portable curmudgeon, 
page 130):

When I told the people of Northern Ireland that I was an atheist, a 
woman in the audience stood up and said, 'Yes, but is it the God of 
the Catholics or the God of the Protestants in whom you don't 
believe?' 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Somebody Tell Mel That Jesus Was Jewish'

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
  wrote:
  
   Gibson's Anti-Semitic Tirade -- Alleged Cover Up 
   Posted Jul 28th 2006 9:15PM by TMZ Staff
   Filed under: Celebrity Justice
 TMZ has learned that Mel Gibson went on a rampage when he was
   arrested Friday on suspicion of drunk driving, hurling 
religious
   epithets. 
  
  Mel Gibson's statement regarding his arrest:
 snip 
  I acted like a person completely out of control
 
 Acted like a person completely out of control??
 
 Interesting assertion *from an actor*.
 
  when I was arrested,
  and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are
  despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said and I 
apologize
  to anyone who I have offended.
 
 Anyone?  How about everyone?
 
  I apologize for any behavior
  unbecoming of me in my inebriated state
 
 Any behavior?
  
  Yeah, right, Mel... alcohol, which lowers inhibitions, made you 
say
  things you don't believe to be true.
 
 You said it.  It's striking how he has managed to
 *distance* himself from his behavior throughout
 that apology.


Huh?

What planet are you on?

The guy said and did some despicable things because of a disease 
he's been battling (and, no, having the disease is NOT an excuse or 
justification for saying what he did). But he's apologising...AND 
acknowledging that he said and did things that were completely 
inappropriate.

Compare that to the anti-semitic comments made by Bill and Hillary 
Clinton: 

- said, presumably, NOT under the influence of alcohol
- They have never acknowledged and admitted saying the comments 
(although it is as well-documented as this instance)
- they are/were elected officials and in much more important 
positions of influence.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'

2006-07-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/30/06 4:34:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nukes 
  are not an option. Anyone who has seen what they do to the human beings 
  who survive the initial blast would know that. Unless they don't consider 
  these people human beings, of course...

Nobody in their right mind wants to use nukes. The key words,"in their 
right mind". Do we let a government that threatens the world have them? What 
will it take to keep them from getting them? Would the Axis powers have used 
nukes during WW2 had they had them first?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
  wrote:
   
Listen to how Joshua and Caleb describe the inhabitants of 
  Canaan—
   the 
people who rightfully possess the land the Israelites want 
to 
seize: Have no fear then of the people of the country, for 
 they 
  are 
our prey (my italics). Prey—that's a breathtaking and 
  sinister 
word! Again we're reminded that the Torah is not aspiring to 
be 
  a 
   book 
for everyone. It is not preaching universal truth for all 
men. 
  It is 
the work of a single tribe at war with everyone around it. 
 Their 
enemies were not human: They were prey.

http://www.slate.com/id/2146473/entry/2146669/?nav=tap3
   
  
  
   I'm sorry, but it's just plain silly to pull some
   negative-sounding bit out of a scripture written
   thousands of years ago, then turn around and point
   fingers at the people whose scripture it is and
   sneer, See?  See?
  
  
  The point I was making was that things have not changed over the 
  course of thousands of years -- a single tribe at war with
  everyone around it.
 
 Obviously.  That's the point I was saying was
 silly.
 
  As far as your claim that this is scripture belonging 
  only to Jews,
 
 I did not make such a claim, Bob.  Don't put words in
 my mouth, please.
 
  that's not true, as the Book of Numbers is part of 
  both Christian and Islamic tradition. If you don't like the tone 
of 
  Numbers 13, you probably will also not like Numbers 31, in which 
  Moses tells his soldiers to kill everybody in an enemy tribe,
  except virgin girls:
 
 Says Bob, completely missing *my* point.
 
 And Jesus said one should hate one's mother
 and father and not even bother to give them
 a decent burial when they die (in a scripture
 that's considerably less ancient).
 
 You can find things that sound offensive to
 modern sensibilities in virtually any ancient
 scripture.
 
 We mock Christian fundies for taking the Bible
 literally, then we turn around and do the same
 thing when we want to slam Jews.
 
 In many if not most cases, such passages in
 ancient scripures are either metaphorical in
 some sense, or aren't the point of the scripture
 at all; or they reflect the way the society
 thought *then*, in a vastly different time and
 vastly different situations.
 
 As I pointed out to Curtis not long ago, the
 Jews have a long, long history of humanitarian
 ethics and social-justice activism on behalf of
 the poor and oppressed, all grounded in the very
 same scriptures you and he hold up to scorn.


Well said.

I would add: the words in scriptures are, for the most 
part, descriptions not prescriptions (was it Judy who coined that 
term?  If it was, it's the best and maybe only wise thing she's ever 
written).

These words are designed only to make sense on a certain level of 
consciousness and, indeed, by reading or hearing them, confirm to 
the listener or reader the state of consciousness they are in.

To take these words as instructions for living is, on the face of 
it, absurd and surely lead to disastrous results.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: You will not *believe* this!

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Try this: when you click on the link below, look down
 at the bottom of your screen while the page comes up,
 instead of looking at the page.
 
 When the page has loaded--still looking down at the
 bottom of the screen--scroll down just a little bit
 until the top few lines are off the screen.  Without
 looking directly at what's on the screen, try to scroll
 so the first bold paragraph is at the top of the screen.
 
 Read that paragraph.  Below it is a link to a Real
 Player audio clip, and below that is a transcript of
 the conversation that's on the clip.  Listen to the
 audio while following the transcript.
 
 Who exactly is N'kisi?
 
 I'm suggesting the scrolling maneuver because N'kisi
 is identified in the first few lines at the top of the
 screen, and I thought it might be fun to listen to the
 clip without knowing who N'kisi is.
 
 When you've heard the clip, scroll up to the top to
 find out.
 
 Or don't bother with the scrolling; it's still amazing
 when you know beforehand who is talking.
 
 But please don't give the game away here until other
 folks have had a chance to try it!
 
 http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html



If N'Kisi can talk, then maybe she can do TM.

If she can do TM, then she can learn the flying technique.

If she learns the flying technique, she'll be the first Sidha to 
really fly.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Invincible America?

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  From the U.S. Department of State website
  (http://www.state.gov/t/vc/rls/rpt/wmeat/99_00/), Arms Sales
  by Country, 1999 
 
 Interestingly, this link is no longer functional, and
 searching the current Department of State website
 using the same title string 'Arms Sales by Country,'
 I have been unable to locate either this page or any
 like it. If anyone has more patience than I, give it
 a try. Otherwise, I have to think that the government
 of the country Maharishi wants to make invincible
 no longer is willing to admit its percentage of 
 worldwide arms sales.


It's probably more a result of whomever is running their website has 
reordered where everything is on the website.  The Internet Wayback 
Machine prevents hiding or avoiding of info once posted on the web.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/30/06 4:34:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Nukes  are not an option. Anyone who has seen what they 
  do to the human beings  who survive the initial blast 
  would know that. Unless they don't consider  these people 
  human beings, of course...
 
 Nobody in their right mind wants to use nukes. The key words,
 in their right mind. Do we let a government that threatens 
 the world have them? 

Too late.  It already owns most of them.  It dropped 
the only two such weapons used so far against humans.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Somebody Tell Mel That Jesus Was Jewish'

2006-07-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/30/06 6:22:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yeah, 
  right, Mel... alcohol, which lowers inhibitions, made you saythings you 
  don't believe to be true.

"And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those that trespass against 
us."
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[FairfieldLife] The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
FFL's poet-laureate
Once a beacon
Of liberalism
And peace
And non-violence
Now advocates
The immediate and unambiguous
Nuclear-bombing of
Persia
And
The immediate incineration of
Millions of Persians






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[FairfieldLife] Re: What does organic really mean?

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 From the NY Times:
 
 What Does `Organic' Really Mean? 
  
 By M. P. DUNLEAVEY
 
 Published: July 29, 2006
 
 I HAVE paid extra for a fair number of organic products, believing 
 that they are healthier for me, my family and the environment.
 
 And now it turns out that in some cases I should have saved my 
hard-
 earned money. 
 
 Sure, some items that are called organic are probably worth the 
extra 
 cost because they are produced according to strict standards. But 
the 
 labels on quite a few of them are not worth an extra cent, 
according 
 to a study of organic food by Consumer Reports, a publication of 
the 
 nonprofit Consumers Union.
 
 Read more at:
 http://tinyurl.com/mw56c


Gosh...could this mean that John Stossel was right all along?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 FFL's poet-laureate
 Once a beacon
 Of liberalism
 And peace
 And non-violence
 Now advocates
 The immediate and unambiguous
 Nuclear-bombing of
 Persia
 And
 The immediate incineration of
 Millions of Persians

Could it be the influence of Foo Foo Rays?









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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Somebody Tell Mel That Jesus Was Jewish'

2006-07-30 Thread uvulonicus
Dear Mel,

Please have your priest explain to you the meaning of in vino 
veritas.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex 
Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
 wrote:
 
  Gibson's Anti-Semitic Tirade -- Alleged Cover Up 
  Posted Jul 28th 2006 9:15PM by TMZ Staff
  Filed under: Celebrity Justice
TMZ has learned that Mel Gibson went on a rampage when he was
  arrested Friday on suspicion of drunk driving, hurling religious
  epithets. 
 
 Mel Gibson's statement regarding his arrest:
 
 After drinking alcohol on Thursday night, I did a number of things
 that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. I drove a car when 
I
 should not have, and was stopped by the L.A. County sheriffs. The
 arresting officer was just doing his job and I feel fortunate that I
 was apprehended before I caused injury to any other person.
 
 I acted like a person completely out of control when I was 
arrested,
 and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are
 despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said and I apologize
 to anyone who I have offended.
 
 Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the deputies involved
 for my belligerent behavior. They have always been there for me in 
my
 community and indeed probably saved me from myself. I disgraced 
myself
 and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry.
 
 I have battled the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life 
and
 profoundly regret my horrific relapse. I apologize for any behavior
 unbecoming of me in my inebriated state and have already taken
 necessary steps to ensure my return to health.
 
 Source: http://tinyurl.com/lvwm3
 
 Yeah, right, Mel... alcohol, which lowers inhibitions, made you say
 things you don't believe to be true.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton is gay -- Ann Coulter

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   From my brother:
   
   I dislike Letterman, but he occasionally nails a 
   thing right on the head.
  
  I'm sorry, I may have missed it: what's the connection between 
  Letterman and Coulter?
 
 Do you see that little line down below that 
 starts with 'http' and is either underlined
 or in a different color font on your screen?
 That's what we call a 'link.' 
 
 You 'click' on the link to see where it takes
 you. Clicking is done by placing the mouse
 cursor over the link and pressing the left
 mouse button, or on a Mac, the button, period.

Thanks...I get it now.


 
   Apparently, professional controversialist Ann 
   Coulter went on some cable interview show and 
   claimed that Clinton's rampant promiscuity does 
   show some level of latent homosexuality. That's 
   an actual quote from her interview (which is not 
   on the clip linked below). 
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_YzbODb9To
   
   :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Somebody Tell Mel That Jesus Was Jewish'

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uvulonicus [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Dear Mel,
 
 Please have your priest explain to you the meaning of in vino 
 veritas.


Great.  The justice system must be very happy.

We've finally found a fool-proof truth serum.


 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex 
 Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
  wrote:
  
   Gibson's Anti-Semitic Tirade -- Alleged Cover Up 
   Posted Jul 28th 2006 9:15PM by TMZ Staff
   Filed under: Celebrity Justice
 TMZ has learned that Mel Gibson went on a rampage when he was
   arrested Friday on suspicion of drunk driving, hurling 
religious
   epithets. 
  
  Mel Gibson's statement regarding his arrest:
  
  After drinking alcohol on Thursday night, I did a number of 
things
  that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. I drove a car 
when 
 I
  should not have, and was stopped by the L.A. County sheriffs. The
  arresting officer was just doing his job and I feel fortunate 
that I
  was apprehended before I caused injury to any other person.
  
  I acted like a person completely out of control when I was 
 arrested,
  and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are
  despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said and I 
apologize
  to anyone who I have offended.
  
  Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the deputies 
involved
  for my belligerent behavior. They have always been there for me 
in 
 my
  community and indeed probably saved me from myself. I disgraced 
 myself
  and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry.
  
  I have battled the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult 
life 
 and
  profoundly regret my horrific relapse. I apologize for any 
behavior
  unbecoming of me in my inebriated state and have already taken
  necessary steps to ensure my return to health.
  
  Source: http://tinyurl.com/lvwm3
  
  Yeah, right, Mel... alcohol, which lowers inhibitions, made you 
say
  things you don't believe to be true.
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  FFL's poet-laureate
  Once a beacon
  Of liberalism
  And peace
  And non-violence
  Now advocates
  The immediate and unambiguous
  Nuclear-bombing of
  Persia
  And
  The immediate incineration of
  Millions of Persians
 
 Could it be the influence of Foo Foo Rays?

Can't resist...if Robert has second thoughts about his
Nuke 'em till they glow posts, he won't even have to
come up with an excuse. He can just revise one we heard 
here earlier today:

After having been exposed to Foo Foo Rays on Sunday morning, 
I posted a number of things that were very wrong and for which 
I am ashamed. I called for the nuclear anihilation of 68,017,860 
people when I should not have, and was called on it by the FFL 
County sheriff, Shemp McGurk. The arresting officer was just 
doing his job and I feel fortunate that I was apprehended before 
I actually called my Congressperson to lobby for nuclear war.

I have battled the disease of Foo Foo Ray sniffing for all 
of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse. I 
apologize for any behavior unbecoming of me in my blissed-out 
state and have already taken necessary steps to ensure my 
return to health.







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[FairfieldLife] Sorry to tell you libeals this but...

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
Mel and Hutton Gibson are die-hard liberals.

Remember that the reason Hutton Gibson trotted himself and his family 
off to Australia back in the '60s was primarily to avoid getting his 
sons drafted into the U.S. army and shipped off to Vietnam.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel

2006-07-30 Thread larry.potter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FFL's poet-laureate
 Once a beacon
 Of liberalism
 And peace
 And non-violence

Shem can you look in Robert's eyes and tell him
that peace, liberalism, non-violence and so on
is also Iran's and the Arabs countries goals?
that they also want liberalism, non-violence etc?

just looked at what Arab and Muslim around the world
following the publication of cartoons have caused.

Can you absolutely be sure that Iran that declared 
destruction of Israel and the West are just politics?

Shem, Are you sure that you see reality as it is better
than Robert?

 Now advocates
 The immediate and unambiguous
 Nuclear-bombing of
 Persia
 And
 The immediate incineration of
 Millions of Persians









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'

2006-07-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/30/06 9:16:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whoa.The frightening thing about this post is that the logic 
  and rationale is, sadly, right.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  Robert Gimbel babajii_99@... wrote: Iran 
  supports Hezbollah. Iran cannot be trusted. The leader of Iran 
  is a replica of Adolf Hitler. His stated goal is to wipe out the 
  United States and Israel. We have the power to stop him quickly and 
  painlessly. We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs,  Of 
  10-20 megaton capacity. We can vaporize Iran in short time. We 
  invested enormous amounts of money; Developing these weapons; 
  When else would they be used; If not in this current situation with 
  the madness; Of Iran.   R.Gimbel 
  Seattle,WA.  

I don't think the idea will be to use 10 to 20 megaton bombs on Iran and 
wipe out hundreds of thousands of civilians. If it boils down to a military 
solution the idea is to use very small tactical nukes on bunker busters that 
will penetrated deep into the nuclear labs under ground before exploding, 
minimizing casualtiesabove the surface while wiping out any infrastructure 
underground. Fortunately, these bunkers seem to be far from major populated 
areas. Of course if it doesn't have the complete desired results, Iranian 
leaders could probably buy a nuke from North Korea, if they haven't already, and 
seek revenge.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante 
no_reply@ 
   wrote:

 Listen to how Joshua and Caleb describe the inhabitants of 
   Canaan—
the 
 people who rightfully possess the land the Israelites want 
to 
 seize: Have no fear then of the people of the country, for 
  they 
   are 
 our prey (my italics). Prey—that's a breathtaking and 
   sinister 
 word! Again we're reminded that the Torah is not aspiring 
to be 
   a 
book 
 for everyone. It is not preaching universal truth for all 
men. 
   It is 
 the work of a single tribe at war with everyone around it. 
  Their 
 enemies were not human: They were prey.
 
 http://www.slate.com/id/2146473/entry/2146669/?nav=tap3

   
   
I'm sorry, but it's just plain silly to pull some
negative-sounding bit out of a scripture written
thousands of years ago, then turn around and point
fingers at the people whose scripture it is and
sneer, See?  See?
   
   
   The point I was making was that things have not changed over 
the 
   course of thousands of years -- a single tribe at war with
   everyone around it.
  
  Obviously.  That's the point I was saying was
  silly.
  
   As far as your claim that this is scripture belonging 
   only to Jews,
  
  I did not make such a claim, Bob.  Don't put words in
  my mouth, please.
  
   that's not true, as the Book of Numbers is part of 
   both Christian and Islamic tradition. If you don't like the 
tone of 
   Numbers 13, you probably will also not like Numbers 31, in 
which 
   Moses tells his soldiers to kill everybody in an enemy tribe,
   except virgin girls:
  
  Says Bob, completely missing *my* point.
  
  And Jesus said one should hate one's mother
  and father and not even bother to give them
  a decent burial when they die (in a scripture
  that's considerably less ancient).
  
  You can find things that sound offensive to
  modern sensibilities in virtually any ancient
  scripture.
  
  We mock Christian fundies for taking the Bible
  literally, then we turn around and do the same
  thing when we want to slam Jews.
  
  In many if not most cases, such passages in
  ancient scripures are either metaphorical in
  some sense, or aren't the point of the scripture
  at all; or they reflect the way the society
  thought *then*, in a vastly different time and
  vastly different situations.
  
  As I pointed out to Curtis not long ago, the
  Jews have a long, long history of humanitarian
  ethics and social-justice activism on behalf of
  the poor and oppressed, all grounded in the very
  same scriptures you and he hold up to scorn.
 
 Different part of the scriptures.

Yes and no.  But the point being, the existence of
the bad parts hasn't somehow turned the Jews into
an unethical people.

Curtis had said:  I am always amazed when the bible
is held up as a moral standard to follow and to
expose to children. It makes me think, 'have you
actually read that book?'

That's such an extraordinarily shallow perspective.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: todays course update: Record Gains

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
   Rising stock markets and declining oil prices are strong 
indicators 
   of growing optimism and confidence in the country's economic 
future. 
   Experts predicted that the upheaval in the Middle East would 
depress 
   Wall Street and send oil prices skyrocketing. To the surprise 
of most 
   economists, the opposite occurred.
  
  Somebody ought to tell 'em they're making it
  sound as though it's fine if the bloodshed in
  the Middle East continues as long as it doesn't
  hurt the U.S. stock market.
 
 
 Eh. Ithink the point is supposed to be see, it's working. Come 
join us in creating a better USA.

Sure.  But they need to make that point more clearly,
otherwise it sounds as though, as I said above, etc.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel

2006-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Shemp, Are you sure that you see reality as it is better
 than Robert?

I certainly hope so. Robert is advocating nuclear war.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: You will not *believe* this!

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Try this: when you click on the link below, look down
  at the bottom of your screen while the page comes up,
  instead of looking at the page.
  
  When the page has loaded--still looking down at the
  bottom of the screen--scroll down just a little bit
  until the top few lines are off the screen.  Without
  looking directly at what's on the screen, try to scroll
  so the first bold paragraph is at the top of the screen.
  
  Read that paragraph.  Below it is a link to a Real
  Player audio clip, and below that is a transcript of
  the conversation that's on the clip.  Listen to the
  audio while following the transcript.
  
  Who exactly is N'kisi?
  
  I'm suggesting the scrolling maneuver because N'kisi
  is identified in the first few lines at the top of the
  screen, and I thought it might be fun to listen to the
  clip without knowing who N'kisi is.
  
  When you've heard the clip, scroll up to the top to
  find out.
  
  Or don't bother with the scrolling; it's still amazing
  when you know beforehand who is talking.
  
  But please don't give the game away here until other
  folks have had a chance to try it!
  
  http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html
 
 
 I tend NOT to believe it (could be wrong of course). It would cost 
less than $100 to have a 
 web cam focused on the bird, recording the interactions but they 
didn't bother to film it 
 or, to publish the movie if it was filmed.

They could fake that too almost as easily, of course.

This clip wasn't made as proof of N'kisi's
abilities; it's just the one they happened to pick
to put on the Web site.

See here for more, including from scientists who have
seen N'kisi in action:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3430481.stm






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry to tell you libeals this but...

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Mel and Hutton Gibson are die-hard liberals.
 
 Remember that the reason Hutton Gibson trotted himself and his 
family 
 off to Australia back in the '60s was primarily to avoid getting 
his 
 sons drafted into the U.S. army and shipped off to Vietnam.

From the Wikipedia entry on Hutton Gibson:

Notable beliefs

Hutton Gibson is a Traditionalist Catholic. He goes further than 
many, however, embracing Sedevacantism. He has also stated that the 
Second Vatican Council was illegitimate due to the heresies it 
produced, and that it was the result of a secret anti-Catholic plot 
orchestrated by both Masons and Jews. It has been incorrectly claimed 
that Hutton Gibson holds to the Siri Thesis.

Because Gibson's views are consistently critical of the Jews and he 
is a proponent of unconventional theories about the Jews and their 
role in history, Hutton Gibson is widely considered to be an anti-
semite.

Gibson also holds to the claim that the September 11, 2001 terrorist 
attacks were not carried out mostly by Muslims aboard the plane, but 
rather were carried out by remote control, a view he has expressed 
on The Alex Jones Show.
 
Hutton Gibson with Holocaust denier Fredrick Töben, head of the 
Adelaide Institute, at the 2003 International Conference on Authentic 
History, Real News and the First AmendmentGibson denies commonly 
accepted aspects of the Jewish Holocaust, claiming that it is 
impossible for the Holocaust to have happened as described, since 
in his view, there would be no way to get rid of so many bodies
[citation needed]. He claims[citation needed] that There weren't 
even that many Jews in all of Europe, that the thousands who 
disappeared from Poland got up and left, and says that according to 
the census statistics there were more Jews in Europe after World War 
II, statements denied by mainstream historians. In support of his 
father, Mel Gibson claims that his father's beliefs do not amount to 
Holocaust denial. (Mel Gibson also says that he will not speak out 
publicly against his father.)

Hutton Gibson also publishes a quarterly newsletter propagating his 
views under the name The War is Now!







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[FairfieldLife] Re: The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel

2006-07-30 Thread larry.potter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter
 larry.potter@ wrote:
 
  Shemp, Are you sure that you see reality as it is better
  than Robert?
 
 I certainly hope so. Robert is advocating nuclear war.


oh, i see, we, in the West, just don't *understand* Islam or Iran 
well, we need to analyze more their mad destructive behavior.
We need to give them nuke power and just hope that they will change.

so, when Islamofascists seek the total destruction of Western 
civilization, it is just liberalism in disguise.

i think i see reality better now, Barry, ty.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  FFL's poet-laureate
  Once a beacon
  Of liberalism
  And peace
  And non-violence
 
 Shem can you look in Robert's eyes and tell him
 that peace, liberalism, non-violence and so on
 is also Iran's and the Arabs countries goals?
 that they also want liberalism, non-violence etc?
 
 just looked at what Arab and Muslim around the world
 following the publication of cartoons have caused.
 
 Can you absolutely be sure that Iran that declared 
 destruction of Israel and the West are just politics?
 
 Shem, Are you sure that you see reality as it is better
 than Robert?



Oh, Larry, don't misunderstand me.

The bottom line is: Robert is 100% right.

I just find it ironic that this former beacon of liberalism and non-
violence has done a 180 degree turn.








 
  Now advocates
  The immediate and unambiguous
  Nuclear-bombing of
  Persia
  And
  The immediate incineration of
  Millions of Persians
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry to tell you libeals this but...

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  Mel and Hutton Gibson are die-hard liberals.
  
  Remember that the reason Hutton Gibson trotted himself and his 
 family 
  off to Australia back in the '60s was primarily to avoid getting 
 his 
  sons drafted into the U.S. army and shipped off to Vietnam.
 
 From the Wikipedia entry on Hutton Gibson:
 
 Notable beliefs
 
 Hutton Gibson is a Traditionalist Catholic. He goes further than 
 many, however, embracing Sedevacantism. He has also stated that 
the 
 Second Vatican Council was illegitimate due to the heresies it 
 produced, and that it was the result of a secret anti-Catholic 
plot 
 orchestrated by both Masons and Jews. It has been incorrectly 
claimed 
 that Hutton Gibson holds to the Siri Thesis.
 
 Because Gibson's views are consistently critical of the Jews and 
he 
 is a proponent of unconventional theories about the Jews and their 
 role in history, Hutton Gibson is widely considered to be an anti-
 semite.
 
 Gibson also holds to the claim that the September 11, 2001 
terrorist 
 attacks were not carried out mostly by Muslims aboard the plane, 
but 
 rather were carried out by remote control, a view he has 
expressed 
 on The Alex Jones Show.
  
 Hutton Gibson with Holocaust denier Fredrick Töben, head of the 
 Adelaide Institute, at the 2003 International Conference on 
Authentic 
 History, Real News and the First AmendmentGibson denies commonly 
 accepted aspects of the Jewish Holocaust, claiming that it is 
 impossible for the Holocaust to have happened as described, 
since 
 in his view, there would be no way to get rid of so many bodies
 [citation needed]. He claims[citation needed] that There weren't 
 even that many Jews in all of Europe, that the thousands who 
 disappeared from Poland got up and left, and says that according 
to 
 the census statistics there were more Jews in Europe after World 
War 
 II, statements denied by mainstream historians. In support of his 
 father, Mel Gibson claims that his father's beliefs do not amount 
to 
 Holocaust denial. (Mel Gibson also says that he will not speak out 
 publicly against his father.)
 
 Hutton Gibson also publishes a quarterly newsletter propagating 
his 
 views under the name The War is Now!


Yeah, like I said: he's a liberal.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The metamorphosis of Robert Gimbel

2006-07-30 Thread larry.potter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter 
 larry.potter@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  
   FFL's poet-laureate
   Once a beacon
   Of liberalism
   And peace
   And non-violence
  
  Shem can you look in Robert's eyes and tell him
  that peace, liberalism, non-violence and so on
  is also Iran's and the Arabs countries goals?
  that they also want liberalism, non-violence etc?
  
  just looked at what Arab and Muslim around the world
  following the publication of cartoons have caused.
  
  Can you absolutely be sure that Iran that declared 
  destruction of Israel and the West are just politics?
  
  Shem, Are you sure that you see reality as it is better
  than Robert?
 
 
 
 Oh, Larry, don't misunderstand me.
 
 The bottom line is: Robert is 100% right.
 
 I just find it ironic that this former beacon of liberalism and 
non-
 violence has done a 180 degree turn.
 
 

sorry, i missed that point.
and yes, events tend to shift our view
from time to time. been there done that,
(am there :) )

 
 
 
 
  
   Now advocates
   The immediate and unambiguous
   Nuclear-bombing of
   Persia
   And
   The immediate incineration of
   Millions of Persians
  
 







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[FairfieldLife] INDIAN VAASTHU ASTROLOGY

2006-07-30 Thread Parvathy Vishnu Narayanan



  Hi friends,Can anyone just tell me abou Indian Vaasthu. I saw www.perumthachan.com . They have very nice home plans as per vaasthu. Is it a genuine thing? Please comment on this.regards Vishnu Narayanan   
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[FairfieldLife] Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread scienceofabundance
Hello ALL!! I am on the course that will make America invincible in 
about 4 days from now,  and I am having AWESOME experiences (love 
that word!!!) - just bubbling gurgles of bliss throughout the 
program, and even more gurgling blissfulness of bubbling during 
flying Sometimes the bubbles are blue, but mostly they are 
yellow or pink -but regardless of the color, they are all blissfull. 
I also love the gurgling (because I have always had asthma which my 
guides say is caused because I am so pure).I was talking to a friend 
who lives in Fairfield about the different colors, and he thought it 
was great, but he said he had to rush off and not to bother calling 
him, and that he would call me. So, I'll have to wait and  see what 
he thinks - I really respect him because he has sponsored me for 
courses as far back as 1975. 

Anyways, the reason that I am writing this message is to tell you 
all about the wonderful experiences people are having on the course 
and to let you know that they are still accepting people. Also, 
Maharishi was talking to us yesterday and he said that it was 
wonderful to receive, but it was even more wonderful to ask and try 
your best to receive (at least I am sure he said that, but when I 
asked someone else, he said he could not remember that, but I think 
he is so overcome with bliss that he doesn't remember much!!!).

He says that the course will  be extended for 2 weeks for anyone 
who  can afford to stay, and I am so full of bliss and contributing 
so much to the world, that I have decided to stay and so  I need 
sponsorship. I was having lunch beside some people yesterday (I 
hadn't met them before,  but they were AWESOME people!!!) and I 
started talking to them about sponsorship.  They had to suddenly 
leave, but one  of them suggested writing to this group,  because he 
said FFLifers were so positive and that it was a big group - so here 
I am!!! I cannot write for very long because I am using someone 
else's computer, but any sponsorship would be a very good thing for  
each of you  to do.  It probably would be easiest if you just write 
to me at my email address and then I can arrange  for you to call me 
and send me the  money. THANKS!!! Also, if anyone has large shoes 
that they are no longer using,  I could  use those (I am a size 
14!!).

Well, now I need to sign off as I asked someone to call my mom and 
dad and ask them to call me in a few minutes, and I dont' want to 
miss their call. They have been sponsoring me since 1977 and I know  
the way they look at me when I ask for sponsorship that they really 
like to sponsor me, even though they always say they don't! Isn't 
that funny? - but it's their way (their 86 and 92) and I would not 
change them for anything. My dad said to me last year You're 56 - 
isn't it time you took care of yourself? - aren't they funny! Also, 
I need them to send me some of their stuff from their basement 
(or my basement, since that is where I live!), because someone 
told me that people need things  here and I could sell stuff here!!

Well, gotta go - need to rest for 3 hours before the afternoon 
program. Thanks for sending all the sponsorship (I probably won't  
have much time to thank anyone once the money starts arriving, but I 
know you don't need thanks - it's the right thing to do, right?!)





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry to tell you libeals this but...

2006-07-30 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  

Mel and Hutton Gibson are die-hard liberals.

Remember that the reason Hutton Gibson trotted himself and his 


family 
  

off to Australia back in the '60s was primarily to avoid getting 


his 
  

sons drafted into the U.S. army and shipped off to Vietnam.



From the Wikipedia entry on Hutton Gibson:

Notable beliefs

snip

Gibson also holds to the claim that the September 11, 2001 terrorist 
attacks were not carried out mostly by Muslims aboard the plane, but 
rather were carried out by remote control, a view he has expressed 
on The Alex Jones Show.
 
  

I wouldn't hold that against him.  From what I've seen that scenario is 
more likely than the bullshit official version the government holds.   
In fact there are folks from all kinds of political persuasions that 
don't believe the  official version.  I praise Alex Jones for the work 
he has done and the support he has given to the scholars  who have done 
serious research into the matter.   Only those who are still asleep buy 
the official version which of course plays well into the agenda of the 
NeoCons and Globalists.

Yesterday C-Span broadcast a symposium on September 11th hosted by Alex 
Jones which you can find on the www.cspan.org site under the American 
Perspectives series.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
Um, I hate to tell Science this, but most of us are long since past the stage where empty flattery can get turned into $$.  What a pathetic way to encourage participation--by hitting up your friends--still.  Don't the course leaders who encourage this ever think of *new* ways to pick people's pockets?  I thought there were scholarships. Sadly, nothing ever seems to change with them.

Oh, and you're welcome. :)

Sal


On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:45 AM, scienceofabundance wrote:

They had to suddenly 
leave, but one  of them suggested writing to this group,  because he 
said FFLifers were so positive and that it was a big group - so here 
I am!!! I cannot write for very long because I am using someone 
else's computer, but any sponsorship would be a very good thing for  
each of you  to do.  It probably would be easiest if you just write 
to me at my email address and then I can arrange  for you to call me 
and send me the  money. THANKS!!!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Um, I hate to tell Science this, but most of 
us are long since past the stage where empty flattery 
can get turned into $$.  What a pathetic way to 
encourage participation--by hitting up your friends
--still.  Don't  the course leaders who encourage 
this ever think of *new* ways to pick people's pockets...

I understand that all UK sidhas have received an email
inviting them. After his 5/11 press statement, Maharishi
should be advised that the Wise Man does not run over 
a fellow man, and then reverse back to him to ask him
to lend him a tenner.
Uns.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss





on 7/30/06 12:06 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Um, I hate to tell Science this, but most of us are long since past the stage where empty flattery can get turned into $$. What a pathetic way to encourage participation--by hitting up your friends--still. Don't the course leaders who encourage this ever think of *new* ways to pick people's pockets? I thought there were scholarships. Sadly, nothing ever seems to change with them. 

Oh, and you're welcome. :) 

Sal 
 
I think Sciences thing was a parody.

Ive gotten several calls and emails from friends - one from someone I dont even know  encouraging me to apply for a dome badge. They say theyre accepting all kinds of people. Problem with me is, I wouldnt tolerate one moment of inquisition, unless my inquisitors are willing to submit to one as well.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread new . morning
Um, I think it was a satire.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Um, I hate to tell Science this, but most of us are long since past the 
 stage where empty flattery can get turned into $$.  What a pathetic way 
 to encourage participation--by hitting up your friends--still.  Don't 
 the course leaders who encourage this ever think of *new* ways to 
 pick people's pockets?  I thought there were scholarships. Sadly, 
 nothing ever seems to change with them.
 
 Oh, and you're welcome. :)
 
 Sal
 
 
 On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:45 AM, scienceofabundance wrote:
 
   They had to suddenly
  leave, but one  of them suggested writing to this group,  because he
  said FFLifers were so positive and that it was a big group - so here
  I am!!! I cannot write for very long because I am using someone
  else's computer, but any sponsorship would be a very good thing for
  each of you  to do.  It probably would be easiest if you just write
  to me at my email address and then I can arrange  for you to call me
  and send me the  money. THANKS!!!








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[FairfieldLife] Obsession: What The War on Terror Is Really About ( must see )

2006-07-30 Thread larry.potter

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614hl=en


A wake up call.

We can connect the dots and see what terror is about, what extreme 
Islam is about, or we can keep on closing our eyes and hope that it 
will disappear by itself and stay delusional.

I'm interested to hear your feedback on it. 






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 30, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

on 7/30/06 12:06 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Um, I hate to tell Science this, but most of us are long since past the stage where empty flattery can get turned into $$.  What a pathetic way to encourage participation--by hitting up your friends--still.  Don't the course leaders who encourage this ever think of *new* ways to pick people's pockets?  I thought there were scholarships. Sadly, nothing ever seems to change with them. 

 Oh, and you're welcome. :) 

Sal 

I think Science’s thing was a parody.

Whew!  Thanks, Rick!  Guess I need to get my humor meter checked or something.  I kind of wondered, as he has been a longtime participant on here and, one would think, would know better. But actually it turns out it's *me* who should know better. :)

 I’ve gotten several calls and emails from friends - one from someone I don’t even know – encouraging me to apply for a dome badge. They say they’re accepting “all kinds of people.” Problem with me is, I wouldn’t tolerate one moment of inquisition, unless my inquisitors are willing to submit to one as well. 

Well said.  Hey, I think you ought to give that last idea a try--questioning the inquisitors!  Now *that* is something that I would pay good $$ to hear about. 

All kinds of people?  Hmmm, kind of has the ring of pseudo-tolerance or something.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/30/06 11:47:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, 
  gotta go - need to rest for 3 hours before the afternoon program. Thanks 
  for sending all the sponsorship (I probably won't have much time to thank 
  anyone once the money starts arriving, but I know you don't need thanks - 
  it's the right thing to do, right?!)

What? No name or contact information? How is anybody going 
to sponsor him if they haven't go any contact info?
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[FairfieldLife] Maharish Effect: Strong Dampening / Downward Impact on US Financial Markets

2006-07-30 Thread new . morning
Yesterday I prematurely posted a preliminary finding that 10 or so TMO
milestones correlated with sharp rise in market trends. While, that
may be true for strong waves of initiations and TTCs -- more analysis
is required on that. however, now that I have correct project dates,
it is clearly not the case for the three prior largest Maharish Effect
projects. 

As you can see from the charts and analysis at the cited link, the
past Maharish Effect projects have had a strong dampening / downward
impact on US financial markets.

Summary of Stock Market Trends During and After Prior Large ME Projects

If the Maharishi Effect has any real effect on financial markets, and
is not spurious / random correlation, it has a pronounced dampening /
downward impact. The impact of  three prior largest Maharishi Effect
projects, DC (1993),  Heaven on Earth (1987) and Utopia (1983-4) are
reviewed belwo. More detailed analysis and graphics are in Charts
8-13.  Fortunately, these negative effects on the market do not last.

Several hypotheses (H1, H2) can be constructed regarding possible ME
effects on financial markets:

* market trend changes DURING the project
* market trend changes soon AFTER the project, but over time, the
influence declines and prior or new trends resume.

The market remained in a trading range during the DC project,
interupting the prior year's sharply rising market trend.  After the
DC project, the market trend regained its strong upward movement for
another 8 months or so.  Thus the DC project appears conistent with H1
-- it changed a strong two year upward trend -- stopping it in its
tracks during the project. The DC project also appears consistent with
H2, the plateau during the course changed back to the strong upward
trend. Thus, if the ME project actually effected the markets, and was
not spurious correlation, its effect was to dampen and constrain a
long term upward trend.

For at least a year prior to the HoE ME project, the SP 500
experiencing a strong upward trend Precisely during theHoE, project
the SP 500 experienced its largest decline, over 30%, in many
decades.  After this significant market crash, and almost immediately
after the course, the market resumed ints pre-course strong upward
trend. Thus the HoE is consistent with H1 -- it dramatically reversed
market cirection during the course.

The Utopia project reversed a minor recovery upward trend  with a 
strong decline, over 10% , over the next several months, thus
consistent with H1.  The utopia  hit on the market continued for some
months, but finally, 8 months later corrected itself -- thus being
consistent with H2.

See link for details and charts
http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/








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[FairfieldLife] Maharish Effect: Strong R eversal Impact on US Financial Markets

2006-07-30 Thread new . morning
Yesterday I prematurely posted a preliminary finding that 10 or so TMO
milestones correlated with sharp rise in market trends. While, that
may be true for strong waves of initiations and TTCs -- more analysis
is required on that. however, now that I have correct project dates,
it is clearly not the case for the three prior largest Maharish Effect
projects.

As you can see from the charts and analysis at the cited link, the
past Maharish Effect projects have had a strong dampening / downward
impact on US financial markets.

Summary of Stock Market Trends During and After Prior Large ME Projects

If the Maharishi Effect has any real effect on financial markets, and
is not spurious / random correlation, it has a pronounced dampening /
downward impact. The impact of three prior largest Maharishi Effect
projects, DC (1993), Heaven on Earth (1987) and Utopia (1983-4) are
reviewed belwo. More detailed analysis and graphics are in Charts
8-13. Fortunately, these negative effects on the market do not last.

Several hypotheses (H1, H2) can be constructed regarding possible ME
effects on financial markets:

* market trend changes DURING the project
* market trend changes soon AFTER the project, but over time, the
influence declines and prior or new trends resume.

The market remained in a trading range during the DC project,
interupting the prior year's sharply rising market trend. After the
DC project, the market trend regained its strong upward movement for
another 8 months or so. Thus the DC project appears conistent with H1
-- it changed a strong two year upward trend -- stopping it in its
tracks during the project. The DC project also appears consistent with
H2, the plateau during the course changed back to the strong upward
trend. Thus, if the ME project actually effected the markets, and was
not spurious correlation, its effect was to dampen and constrain a
long term upward trend.

For at least a year prior to the HoE ME project, the SP 500
experiencing a strong upward trend Precisely during theHoE, project
the SP 500 experienced its largest decline, over 30%, in many
decades. After this significant market crash, and almost immediately
after the course, the market resumed ints pre-course strong upward
trend. Thus the HoE is consistent with H1 -- it dramatically reversed
market cirection during the course.

The Utopia project reversed a minor recovery upward trend with a
strong decline, over 10% , over the next several months, thus
consistent with H1. The utopia hit on the market continued for some
months, but finally, 8 months later corrected itself -- thus being
consistent with H2.

See link for details and charts
http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss





on 7/30/06 12:55 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Well said. Hey, I think you ought to give that last idea a try--questioning the inquisitors! Now *that* is something that I would pay good $$ to hear about. 

I would, if I were doing the TM  TM Sidha program. Im not, so I dont feel I should be in the dome, although lots of people are in there who arent doing MMYs program.

All kinds of people? Hmmm, kind of has the ring of pseudo-tolerance or something. 

One of the guys who called me said he saw a diksha teacher in there. There are also lots of Amma people, people who havent been meditating, etc. 

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[FairfieldLife] 'Why Did We Create Nuclear Weapons?'

2006-07-30 Thread Robert Gimbel
 
 Some of my recent posts, have been written in anger, and frustration.
As I am Jewish, not practicing or anything, just born Jewish.
Got picked on in the old neighborhood, by some of the Germans there.
So, there is some deep button, that get's pushed,
When I feel that old pressure, closing in from all sides,
That the Jews are this, and the Jews are that...

So, I admit that I am a little too attached to Israeli politics
To be objective in this area.

None the less, I am wondering why the United States, has spent 
Billions of dollars throughout the years, since WWII,
Building these mighty nuclear weapons.
Building mighty missiles, submarines, B-52's and B-2's to carry them 
to their targets;
With multiple warheads on each missile.
One submarine, parked in Puget Sound, here in Seattle,
Has more explosive power, than all the bombs in WWII, put together.
It's really hard to even fathom, a weapon of this magnitude.

So, why did we create these weapons?
 When did we plan to use them?
 Is it so far fetched to think of the danger of this current situation,
As perhaps making this deadly alternative necessary?
The Iranian president wishes to establish a new:
 Persian Empire, in the Middle East;
One without Israel, and the United States;
And he is aligning himself with Chavez, in Venezuala ,China, and 
others;
Iran has huge Uranium resources, as well as its black gold (Oil).

The president of Iran has ambitions, which seem to me;
Quite similar to that of Adolf Hitler's, 73 years ago...
That war ended with two Atomic Blasts, as we know.
What preceded those two Atomic Blasts were suicidal bombers and 
kamazis.
What preceded those two Atomic Blasts, was the unwillingness to fight,
Hand to hand, door to door on the Island of Japan.
Dropping those bombs ended the war, and saved untold American lives.

So, now with this Hitler type dictator in Iran, lusting for nukes, to 
destroy, us; 
And destroy Israel…
Why did we build these nuclear weapons, and when do we use them, 
And against what kind of enemy, do we use them?

It's time for serious meditation on this issue;
Wouldn't you agree? 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharish Effect: Strong Dampening / Downward Impact on US Financial Markets

2006-07-30 Thread gullible fool

Here's more on the stock market decline of 1987:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Monday_(1987)
http://www.ncs.pvt.k12.va.us/ryerbury/pasc/pasc.htm

--- new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yesterday I prematurely posted a preliminary finding
 that 10 or so TMO
 milestones correlated with sharp rise in market
 trends. While, that
 may be true for strong waves of initiations and TTCs
 -- more analysis
 is required on that. however, now that I have
 correct project dates,
 it is clearly not the case for the three prior
 largest Maharish Effect
 projects. 
 
 As you can see from the charts and analysis at the
 cited link, the
 past Maharish Effect projects have had a strong
 dampening / downward
 impact on US financial markets.
 
 Summary of Stock Market Trends During and After
 Prior Large ME Projects
 
 If the Maharishi Effect has any real effect on
 financial markets, and
 is not spurious / random correlation, it has a
 pronounced dampening /
 downward impact. The impact of  three prior largest
 Maharishi Effect
 projects, DC (1993),  Heaven on Earth (1987) and
 Utopia (1983-4) are
 reviewed belwo. More detailed analysis and graphics
 are in Charts
 8-13.  Fortunately, these negative effects on the
 market do not last.
 
 Several hypotheses (H1, H2) can be constructed
 regarding possible ME
 effects on financial markets:
 
 * market trend changes DURING the project
 * market trend changes soon AFTER the project,
 but over time, the
 influence declines and prior or new trends resume.
 
 The market remained in a trading range during the DC
 project,
 interupting the prior year's sharply rising market
 trend.  After the
 DC project, the market trend regained its strong
 upward movement for
 another 8 months or so.  Thus the DC project appears
 conistent with H1
 -- it changed a strong two year upward trend --
 stopping it in its
 tracks during the project. The DC project also
 appears consistent with
 H2, the plateau during the course changed back to
 the strong upward
 trend. Thus, if the ME project actually effected the
 markets, and was
 not spurious correlation, its effect was to dampen
 and constrain a
 long term upward trend.
 
 For at least a year prior to the HoE ME project, the
 SP 500
 experiencing a strong upward trend Precisely during
 theHoE, project
 the SP 500 experienced its largest decline, over
 30%, in many
 decades.  After this significant market crash, and
 almost immediately
 after the course, the market resumed ints pre-course
 strong upward
 trend. Thus the HoE is consistent with H1 -- it
 dramatically reversed
 market cirection during the course.
 
 The Utopia project reversed a minor recovery upward
 trend  with a 
 strong decline, over 10% , over the next several
 months, thus
 consistent with H1.  The utopia  hit on the market
 continued for some
 months, but finally, 8 months later corrected itself
 -- thus being
 consistent with H2.
 
 See link for details and charts
 http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Why Did We Create Nuclear Weapons?'

2006-07-30 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Why Did We Create Nuclear Weapons?'





on 7/30/06 2:05 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Do you believe in karma? Or compassion? What would be the implications of wiping out 67 million people and perhaps causing a nuclear winter? Actually, the latter might be our first payback.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton is gay -- Ann Coulter

2006-07-30 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/30/06 2:32:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Apparently, professional controversialist Ann  Coulter went on 
  some cable interview show and  claimed that Clinton's "rampant 
  promiscuity does  show some level of latent homosexuality.show 
  some an actual quote from her interview (which is not  on the 
  clip linked below). Hehehehe, I saw that. 
  It was on Chris Mathews show "Hardball". She was  saying that, 
  based on feminist logic, so often used today, which she explained. 
   Kind of like, the men who drive powerful sports cars have issues 
  with the size  of their penis,so they have to find a way to make 
  up for it , theory. She  said it tongue in cheek, with a grin on 
  her face and a gleam in her eye, and got  such a rile out of the 
  crowd she should wouldn't back down because she was  having too 
  much fun watching and listening to the reaction of the crowed and  
  Chris Mathews. It really was funny. I pictured in my mind a seen like you 
   would find in the Life of Brian in which somebody makes a 
  statement and everyone  jumps on the persons creaming "Blasphemy, 
  take him to stoning!"Yeah, Ms."I'll do anything for attention" 
  Coulter said the same thing on The Big Idea while speaking with the host 
  Donny Deutsch. She was entirely serious. The only thing missing was the 
  dunce cap...

Well, I can't speak for her appearance on Donny Duetsch, but on Hardball it 
was quite obvious she was poking fun at liberal thought processes by holding a 
liberal icon up to that light of inquiry. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-30 Thread johnlasher20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The ME is accelerating and intensifying the return of past restrictive
 karma for FF residents -- in order to clear the ground for rapid
 acceleration of personal and collective consciousness. Duh. :)


Then by definition the results of the course cannot be measured.
According to most enlightened masters if one took the broadest point
of view everything would be found to be perfect. So it's a done deal.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Why Did We Create Nuclear Weapons?'

2006-07-30 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
 wrote:
 
   Some of my recent posts, have been written in anger, and 
  frustration.
  As I am Jewish, not practicing or anything, just born Jewish.
  Got picked on in the old neighborhood, by some of the Germans 
there.
  So, there is some deep button, that get's pushed,
  When I feel that old pressure, closing in from all sides,
  That the Jews are this, and the Jews are that...
  
  So, I admit that I am a little too attached to Israeli politics
  To be objective in this area.
  
  None the less, I am wondering why the United States, has spent 
  Billions of dollars throughout the years, since WWII,
  Building these mighty nuclear weapons.
  Building mighty missiles, submarines, B-52's and B-2's to carry 
them 
  to their targets;
  With multiple warheads on each missile.
  One submarine, parked in Puget Sound, here in Seattle,
  Has more explosive power, than all the bombs in WWII, put 
together.
  It's really hard to even fathom, a weapon of this magnitude.
  
  So, why did we create these weapons?
   When did we plan to use them?
   Is it so far fetched to think of the danger of this current 
  situation,
  As perhaps making this deadly alternative necessary?
  The Iranian president wishes to establish a new:
   Persian Empire, in the Middle East;
  One without Israel, and the United States;
  And he is aligning himself with Chavez, in Venezuala ,China, and 
  others;
  Iran has huge Uranium resources, as well as its black gold (Oil).
  
  The president of Iran has ambitions, which seem to me;
  Quite similar to that of Adolf Hitler's, 73 years ago...
  That war ended with two Atomic Blasts, as we know.
  What preceded those two Atomic Blasts were suicidal bombers and 
  kamazis.
  What preceded those two Atomic Blasts, was the unwillingness to 
  fight,
  Hand to hand, door to door on the Island of Japan.
  Dropping those bombs ended the war, and saved untold American 
lives.
  
  So, now with this Hitler type dictator in Iran, lusting for 
nukes, 
  to destroy, us; 
  And destroy Israel…
  Why did we build these nuclear weapons, and when do we use them, 
  And against what kind of enemy, do we use them?
  
  It's time for serious meditation on this issue;
  Wouldn't you agree? 
  R.G.
 
 I retract my earlier apology, and revert back to 
 my original statement when you started talking
 like this. You should consider getting some
 psychological help.
 
 You are saying EXACTLY the same thing that the
 people you're so terrified of are saying. THEY
 say that it is perfectly permissible to kill the
 people of a whole nation, Israel. YOU are saying
 that it is perfectly permissible to kill the 
 people of a whole nation, Iran.
 
 I think that the people on both sides who think 
 and talk like this have lost their humanity. I
 pity the crazies in Hamas and Hezbollah who have
 let fear and hatred take their humanity from them, 
 and I pity you for having let it do the same 
 thing to you. 
 
 And the fact that you've found people here who
 agree with you makes it a big day for pity all
 around. 
 
 To the silent ones who haven't commented but who
 feel the same sadness I do at all of this, what 
 a commercial for what decades of meditation can 
 do for a person, eh?


But what does a nation do when their very existence is threatened?

Is there never a situation, Barry, when fighting against another 
nation is justified?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?

2006-07-30 Thread johnlasher20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Listen to how Joshua and Caleb describe the inhabitants of Canaan—
 the 
  people who rightfully possess the land the Israelites want to 
  seize: Have no fear then of the people of the country, for they are 
  our prey (my italics). Prey—that's a breathtaking and sinister 
  word! Again we're reminded that the Torah is not aspiring to be a 
 book 
  for everyone. It is not preaching universal truth for all men. It is 
  the work of a single tribe at war with everyone around it. Their 
  enemies were not human: They were prey.
  
  http://www.slate.com/id/2146473/entry/2146669/?nav=tap3
 
 I'm sorry, but it's just plain silly to pull some
 negative-sounding bit out of a scripture written
 thousands of years ago, then turn around and point
 fingers at the people whose scripture it is and
 sneer, See?  See?

Then look at the quotes again of current leaders and those in charge
of Isreal since it inception in 1949.

http://www.monabaker.com/quotes.htm

We must expel Arabs and take their places.
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford
University Press, 1985.

We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation,
and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab
population.

-- David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From
Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was
that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have
stolen their country. Why would they accept that?
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox),
pp. 121-122.

Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not
even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you
because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not
exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the
place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in
the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal
al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did
not have a former Arab population.

-- David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann,
Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are
the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs,
because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down,
and in their view we want to take away from them their country.
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle,
which appears in Simha Flapan's Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2
citing a 1938 speech.

If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by
transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to
the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not
only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the
people of Israel.
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's
Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).



David Ben Gurion
Prime Minister of Israel
1949 - 1954,
1955 - 1963

There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we
came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist.
-- Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return
them to.
-- Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.

Any one who speaks in favor of bringing the Arab refugees back must
also say how he expects to take the responsibility for it, if he is
interested in the state of Israel. It is better that things are stated
clearly and plainly: We shall not let this happen.
-- Golda Meir, 1961, in a speech to the Knesset, reported in Ner,
October 1961

This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God
Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy.
-- Golda Meir, Le Monde, 15 October 1971



Golda Meir
Prime Minister of Israel
1969 - 1974


We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his
question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?'
Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!
-- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published
in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years
conditions which would attract natural and voluntary migration of the
refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan. To achieve
this we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with
Yasser Arafat.
-- Yitzhak Rabin (a Prince of Peace by Clinton's standards),
explaining his method of ethnically cleansing the occupied land
without stirring a world outcry. (Quoted in David Shipler in the New
York 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread scienceofabundance
Sorry, Sal:) I thought I had included such a variety of BS that 
readers would see it as a parody. I guess it is a measure of what we 
have all seen that your first reaction was to take it seriously. 
Like Rick, there is a snowball's chance in hell that I would be 
accepted into the course unless I lied about myself. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 On Jul 30, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
  on 7/30/06 12:06 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Um, I hate to tell Science this, but most of us are long since 
past 
  the stage where empty flattery can get turned into $$.  What a 
  pathetic way to encourage participation--by hitting up your 
  friends--still.  Don't the course leaders who encourage this 
ever 
  think of *new* ways to pick people's pockets?  I thought there 
were 
  scholarships. Sadly, nothing ever seems to change with them.
 
   Oh, and you're welcome. :)
 
  Sal
 
  I think Science's thing was a parody.
 
 Whew!  Thanks, Rick!  Guess I need to get my humor meter checked 
or 
 something.  I kind of wondered, as he has been a longtime 
participant 
 on here and, one would think, would know better. But actually it 
turns 
 out it's *me* who should know better. :)
 
   I've gotten several calls and emails from friends - one from 
someone 
  I don't even know – encouraging me to apply for a dome badge. 
They say 
  they're accepting all kinds of people. Problem with me is, I 
  wouldn't tolerate one moment of inquisition, unless my 
inquisitors are 
  willing to submit to one as well.
 
 Well said.  Hey, I think you ought to give that last idea a 
 try--questioning the inquisitors!  Now *that* is something that I 
would 
 pay good $$ to hear about.
 
 All kinds of people?  Hmmm, kind of has the ring of pseudo-
tolerance 
 or something.








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[FairfieldLife] CDSL seems to agree with Shrii Sankara Co?

2006-07-30 Thread cardemaister

 anAdi mfn. having no beginning , existing from eternity. 
 anAdimat mfn. having no beginning. 







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss





on 7/30/06 3:17 PM, scienceofabundance at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry, Sal:) I thought I had included such a variety of BS that 
readers would see it as a parody. I guess it is a measure of what we 
have all seen that your first reaction was to take it seriously. 
Like Rick, there is a snowball's chance in hell that I would be 
accepted into the course unless I lied about myself. 

And if I had to lie to get in, as many are doing, I would feel as Groucho Marx did: 'Personally I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member'

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[FairfieldLife] Invincibility Course for Lebanon

2006-07-30 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Invincibility Course for Lebanon





 Peace For Lebanon 
We are happy to receive more supporting emails from those who are doing their daily program for the peace in Lebanon. Now the number is above 200 from all around the world, we thank you all for the Good Support that is reflected positively day by day. If you did not send your email yet, you can do now at the following link : http://maharishitm.org/ppaw/campaign.htm  Away from what is happening on the gross level, which we classify as heavy release of stress, on the deep level there are many purifications taking place, my report of yesterday was full of positive points that are true, and soon we will issue a new report for some new positive points.  Now we are planning to go with our Peace For Lebanon to a second phase, we are planning to do an Invincibly Course in Lebanon similar to the course in USA, Holland Switzerland and other European countries. the purpose of the course is to create invincibility in every country and in the whole world. This course will be done in one location where we can all do our daily program in one place. We all know the formula explained by Maharishi the N2 which mean that the effect of the group program will be effected by the number of the group the effect will be equal to the number of the group multiplied by itself. Now we are around 200 members of meditators and sidhas, who are doing their programs at home, the effect could be equal to 200 units of coherence. While on the other hand a group of 15 sidhas who are doing their program under one roof will give an equal effect. For this reason and in order to have a greater effect in Lebanon we are organizing the Invincibility Course.  This invincibility course is open for Governors, Sidhas and Meditators who are now in Lebanon, the duration of the course is structured to be between two to four weeks in Residence.  Now we want to know urgently who will be ready to join this special course for Lebanon. Please send immediately an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best wishes  Jai Guru Dev Salim Haddad
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread wayback71
This was a joke!!  owever, the fact that you took it seriously says something 
about the 
kinds of letters we have all read, received, etc. and the kind of language 
used.  My first 
response was that the author was on the course and manic.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Um, I hate to tell Science this, but most of us are long since past the 
 stage where empty flattery can get turned into $$.  What a pathetic way 
 to encourage participation--by hitting up your friends--still.  Don't 
 the course leaders who encourage this ever think of *new* ways to 
 pick people's pockets?  I thought there were scholarships. Sadly, 
 nothing ever seems to change with them.
 
 Oh, and you're welcome. :)
 
 Sal
 
 
 On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:45 AM, scienceofabundance wrote:
 
   They had to suddenly
  leave, but one  of them suggested writing to this group,  because he
  said FFLifers were so positive and that it was a big group - so here
  I am!!! I cannot write for very long because I am using someone
  else's computer, but any sponsorship would be a very good thing for
  each of you  to do.  It probably would be easiest if you just write
  to me at my email address and then I can arrange  for you to call me
  and send me the  money. THANKS!!!







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Gurgling Bubbles of Bliss

2006-07-30 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I think Science¹s thing was a parody.
 
 I¹ve gotten several calls and emails from friends - one from someone I don¹t
 even know ­ encouraging me to apply for a dome badge. They say they¹re
 accepting ³all kinds of people.² Problem with me is, I wouldn¹t tolerate one
 moment of inquisition, unless my inquisitors are willing to submit to one as
 well.

This had me laughing so hard - that you are lumped into all kinds of people.  
Why they 
are even stooping so low that they are accepting people like you, Rick!!


Actually, I wonder if having people doing different forms of meditation (Amma's 
and TM 
and Buddhist) together would create some sort of problem energetically.  I 
doubt this 
would ever be allowed by the TMO.  Would that weaken the effect in some way?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   Listen to how Joshua and Caleb describe the inhabitants of 
Canaan—
  the 
   people who rightfully possess the land the Israelites want to 
   seize: Have no fear then of the people of the country, for 
they are 
   our prey (my italics). Prey—that's a breathtaking and 
sinister 
   word! Again we're reminded that the Torah is not aspiring to be 
a 
  book 
   for everyone. It is not preaching universal truth for all men. 
It is 
   the work of a single tribe at war with everyone around it. 
Their 
   enemies were not human: They were prey.
   
   http://www.slate.com/id/2146473/entry/2146669/?nav=tap3
  
  I'm sorry, but it's just plain silly to pull some
  negative-sounding bit out of a scripture written
  thousands of years ago, then turn around and point
  fingers at the people whose scripture it is and
  sneer, See?  See?
 
 Then look at the quotes again of current leaders and those in charge
 of Isreal since it inception in 1949.

No.  We can look at the quotes all we want, but
it would still be silly to try to make a connection
between them and scripture.







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[FairfieldLife] I shall not fight!

2006-07-30 Thread cardemaister

Sanjaya said: O King, after speaking like this to Lord Krishna, the
mighty Arjuna said to Krishna: I shall not fight, and became
silent. (2.09)

O King, Lord Krishna, as if smiling, spoke these words to the
despondent Arjuna in the midst of the two armies. (2.10)

The Supreme Lord said: You grieve for those who are not worthy of
grief, and yet speak the words of wisdom. The wise grieve neither
for the living nor for the dead. (2.11)

There was never a time when I, you, or these kings did not exist;
nor shall we ever cease to exist in the future. (2.12)

Just as the Atma acquires a childhood body, a youth body, and an
old age body during this life, similarly Atma acquires another body
after death. The wise are not deluded by this. (See also 15.08)
(2.13)


evamuktvaa hR^ishhiikesha.n guDaakeshaH parantapaH .
na yotsya iti govindamuktvaa tuushhNiiM babhuuva ha .. 2\-9..
tamuvaacha hR^ishhiikeshaH prahasanniva bhaarata .
senayorubhayormadhye vishhiidantamida.n vachaH .. 2\-10..
shriibhagavaanuvaacha .
ashochyaananvashochastvaM praGYaavaadaa.nshcha bhaashhase .
gataasuunagataasuu.nshcha naanushochanti paNDitaaH .. 2\-11..
na tvevaaha.n jaatu naasa.n na tva.n neme janaadhipaaH .
na chaiva na bhavishhyaamaH sarve vayamataH param.h .. 2\-12..
dehino.asminyathaa dehe kaumaara.n yauvana.n jaraa .
tathaa dehaantarapraaptirdhiirastatra na muhyati .. 2\-13..








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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Why Did We Create Nuclear Weapons?'

2006-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 To the silent ones who haven't commented but who
 feel the same sadness I do at all of this, what 
 a commercial for what decades of meditation can 
 do for a person, eh?

And there is absolutely *no doubt in your mind* that
decades of meditation are responsible for Robert
thinking as he does, right?

Because, as we all know, any effective meditation
technique should cause all its practitioners to think
and behave the same, in ways that are acceptable to
Barry.  Otherwise the meditation can't be any good,
right, Barry?







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