[FairfieldLife] Re: Deutsch on AI
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I found these really interesting. I recall some 45 years ago I read a book called Mechanical Man by Dean Wooldridge (physicist, worked for Bell Labs, Hughes Aircraft, and his own company which became TRW). This book attempted to explain the workings of the human brain in strictly physical terms. I have often felt that regarding human beings as simply computational machines with running programs and grasping appendages and transducers (speech and hearing) often simplifies interaction with others of my species (and other species as well), and provides an apposite explanation for the rather odd behaviour, that from the perspective of this machine, infects my fellow mammals. This mechanistic view is necessary if we regard AI and AGI as a real possibility. I think it's still the natural tendency of us AI machines to assume that because something is (or seems to be complex) then it must have a complex explanation, when everything we have learned in the last few hundred year tells us that simplicity gives rise to complexity without any help. We live in interesting times though, the final frontier will be understood because it's possible for it to be understood. I just think it's going to be fun trying to fit the explanation into my own experience of how it works. Can we personally create a metaphor that explains how the metaphor generator works so that the observer of the metaphor generator is happy with it? Consciousness, the last great mystery! I've read both of David Deutsch's books for the layman and I'm a big fan. The first one The Fabric of Reality is about his theory of the multiverse and how it explains the apparent anomalies of the quantum world so completely that he considers it the most likely explanation by far. He goes into virtual reality, realist philosophy and quantum computing too. A comfortable majority of other physicists don't believe his multiverse ideas - Deutsch thinks that they'll catch up one day - but they are fascinating and it's just a pleasure to hear quantum theory explained by someone who actually builds quantum computers. He cuts through the shit with a rare clarity. His new book The Beginning of Infinity is also excellent and probably a better place to start with his ideas. It's all about the expansion of knowledge, how science works and the potential end result of open-ended study. Again, he cuts through the shit about erroneous beliefs and sets quite a few modern thinking errors straight, even correcting his fellow Oxbridge luminaries Dawkins and Hawking on a few points. There isn't much of the cornerstones of wisdom he doesn't cover and explain how they fit into an overall picture. He's one of those writers who makes you think that you always knew what he's just taught you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : In case you miss the link in the text, this paper is most interesting: http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~pthagard/Articles/quantum.pdf http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~pthagard/Articles/quantum.pdf ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One of my favourite inspirational thinkers holds forth on the problems facing Artificial Intelligence research: To state that the human brain has capabilities that are, in some respects, far superior to those of all other known objects in the cosmos would be uncontroversial. The brain is the only kind of object capable of understanding that the cosmos is even there, or why there are infinitely many prime numbers, or that apples fall because of the curvature of space-time, or that obeying its own inborn instincts can be morally wrong, or that it itself exists. Nor are its unique abilities confined to such cerebral matters. The cold, physical fact is that it is the only kind of object that can propel itself into space and back without harm, or predict and prevent a meteor strike on itself, or cool objects to a billionth of a degree above absolute zero, or detect others of its kind across galactic distances. But no brain on Earth is yet close to knowing what brains do in order to achieve any of that functionality. The enterprise of achieving it artificially – the field of artificial general intelligence or AGI – has made no progress whatever during the entire six decades of its existence. Despite this long record of failure, AGI must be possible. That is because of a deep property of the laws of physics, namely the universality of computation. It entails that everything that the laws of physics require physical objects to do can, in principle, be emulated in arbitrarily fine detail by some program on a general-purpose computer, provided it is given enough time and memory. There's more: Philosophy will be the key that unlocks artificial intelligence | David Deutsch
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's declining brain functioning
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 9:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's declining brain functioning Nice that we all can agree on so much here. World Peace is just a matter of money, (to support the group program). Evidently it should be better if we all would support the program more. We certainly agree on this. The ONLY purpose of group program was to demand money. The longer it doesn't work, the more opportunities there are to demand more money. Endless loop, paid for by idiots like Doug Hamilton.
[FairfieldLife] Curtis's declining brain functioning
The anger and self-loathing the naysayers have is based on that. Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. Then they blame the teacher for their misery and end up using an internet forum to vent their anger. What a joke. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween Song
Very nice, shows real talent ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Glad you liked it - I am waiting for my mouth to heal and not as active as usual, so I am pleased that my idleness found the devil's workshop. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : yes, very nice. upbeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : first song I have done in months, and I am happy with it - The title just refers to when I started the assembly line. Halloween Song (2:40) copyright Temple Dog 2014 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The anger and self-loathing the naysayers have is based on that. It doesn't trouble you that Willytex is talking complete and utter bollocks as usual? Why can't you follow your own arguments? Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. So the technique isn't as effective as claimed? If everyone thinks that, why do you get annoyed when someone points it out? Then they blame the teacher for their misery and end up using an internet forum to vent their anger. What a joke. Misery? It's the people with sense of internal logical consistency I feel sorry for round here. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition. That we are already enlightened isn't Marshy's teaching, that's just Willy's make believe to excuse his own lack of evolution. You guys ought to own the knowledge and stop contradicting yourselves all the time. Steve even thinks that he isn't the same as me and MJ even though he doesn't believe it all either! When was the last time a True Believer made sense round here? Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
Progress is based on how much the individual is able to challenge his individual karma which to varying degree is resisting change. Every Teacher knows you can't just push a button and then all of a sudden you are alright. Maharishi said that inspiring stuff to inspire, not that he for a minute believed it was possible for everyone knowing how much internal resistence there can be in a student. Same With Yogananda, same with all Teachers. Progress is the responsebility of the individual, not the Teacher. Blaming the teacher just expose an immature soul. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The anger and self-loathing the naysayers have is based on that. It doesn't trouble you that Willytex is talking complete and utter bollocks as usual? Why can't you follow your own arguments? Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. So the technique isn't as effective as claimed? If everyone thinks that, why do you get annoyed when someone points it out? Then they blame the teacher for their misery and end up using an internet forum to vent their anger. What a joke. Misery? It's the people with sense of internal logical consistency I feel sorry for round here. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition. That we are already enlightened isn't Marshy's teaching, that's just Willy's make believe to excuse his own lack of evolution. You guys ought to own the knowledge and stop contradicting yourselves all the time. Steve even thinks that he isn't the same as me and MJ even though he doesn't believe it all either! When was the last time a True Believer made sense round here? Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
Fleetwood, having read 75% of Emotional Intelligence 2.0 by Bradberry and Greaves, I'd say that the phrase toxic people is NOT very emotionally intelligent! Plus, I have not seen any phrase even suggesting such a concept in the book. The authors focus on toxic behavior and how to manage it. After self awareness and self management, the other crucial elements of EI, according to them, are social awareness and relationship management. Which means understanding people and their emotions and dealing with all that in a healthy way. I'm 99% sure that labeling someone toxic would not lead to healthy thinking, feeling or behaving about the other person or the situation! At least in the EI contexts I've encountered. My guess is that the author of the article wanted a title that would grab people's attention. According to meme theory, any title that evokes fear is most likely to accomplish that. Plus she used a popular phrase that would offer people a false sense of safety in something familiar. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 9:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. Socommon, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able tocome up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling isthe effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymieprojects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on theirbetter-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biologicaland Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found thatexposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind ofexposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains tohave a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author TravisBradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actuallycause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experiencedfirsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So howcan you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurtingyour productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozentechniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump.Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endlesscomplaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessarystress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company,advises Bradberry.People often feel pressure to listen to complainersbecause they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine linebetween lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negativeemotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by settinglimits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If thecomplainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling thesecond-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how theyintend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either putthe conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to liveto fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. Inconflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind ofbattle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Chooseyour battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity canbe catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endlesscrankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemateaffects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttonsif you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you canbetter choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it thisway--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells youhe's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you findyourself with a co-worker who is engaged in similarly derailed thinking,sometimes it's best to just smile and nod. If you're going to have tostraighten them out, it's better to give yourself some time to plan the bestway to go about it, Bradberry offers as an illustration. 4. Defend your joy Making your happiness contingent on the happiness ofpeople who love to be miserable is a losing game. When your sense ofpleasure and
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
If you can, with great effort and mental exertion, get past the title, there is some great advice there, especially the first one: Set Limits. I also liked, Defend Your Joy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, having read 75% of Emotional Intelligence 2.0 by Bradberry and Greaves, I'd say that the phrase toxic people is NOT very emotionally intelligent! Plus, I have not seen any phrase even suggesting such a concept in the book. The authors focus on toxic behavior and how to manage it. After self awareness and self management, the other crucial elements of EI, according to them, are social awareness and relationship management. Which means understanding people and their emotions and dealing with all that in a healthy way. I'm 99% sure that labeling someone toxic would not lead to healthy thinking, feeling or behaving about the other person or the situation! At least in the EI contexts I've encountered. My guess is that the author of the article wanted a title that would grab people's attention. According to meme theory, any title that evokes fear is most likely to accomplish that. Plus she used a popular phrase that would offer people a false sense of safety in something familiar. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 9:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. So common, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able to come up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling is the effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymie projects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on their better-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biological and Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found that exposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind of exposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains to have a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author Travis Bradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actually cause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experienced firsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So how can you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurting your productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozen techniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump. Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endless complaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessary stress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company, advises Bradberry. People often feel pressure to listen to complainers because they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine line between lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negative emotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by setting limits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If the complainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling the second-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how they intend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either put the conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to live to fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. In conflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind of battle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Choose your battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity can be catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endless crankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemate affects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttons if you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you can better choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it this way--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells you he's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you find yourself with a co-worker who is engaged in
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
What a piece of crappy journalism. Jessica Stillman hasn't got a clue! From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. Socommon, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able tocome up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling isthe effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymieprojects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on theirbetter-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biologicaland Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found thatexposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind ofexposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains tohave a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author TravisBradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actuallycause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experiencedfirsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So howcan you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurtingyour productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozentechniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump.Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endlesscomplaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessarystress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company,advises Bradberry.People often feel pressure to listen to complainersbecause they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine linebetween lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negativeemotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by settinglimits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If thecomplainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling thesecond-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how theyintend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either putthe conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to liveto fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. Inconflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind ofbattle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Chooseyour battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity canbe catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endlesscrankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemateaffects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttonsif you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you canbetter choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it thisway--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells youhe's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you findyourself with a co-worker who is engaged in similarly derailed thinking,sometimes it's best to just smile and nod. If you're going to have tostraighten them out, it's better to give yourself some time to plan the bestway to go about it, Bradberry offers as an illustration. 4. Defend your joy Making your happiness contingent on the happiness ofpeople who love to be miserable is a losing game. When your sense ofpleasure and satisfaction are derived from the opinions of other people, youare no longer the master of your own happiness. When emotionally intelligentpeople feel good about something that they've done, they won't let anyone'sopinions or snide remarks take that away from them, Bradberry insists. So train yourself to take others' commentary with a grainof salt and let your own feelings about your accomplishments take the lead. 5. Focus on solutions You can't make your toxic colleagues any less crazy, sodon't waste your time ruminating on their many, many faults. That will justdrag you down to their level. Instead try to focus on positive and practicalmeasures you can take to deal with them. This makes you more effective byputting you in control, and it will reduce the amount of stress you experiencewhen interacting with them, explains Bradberry. 6. Watch physical stressors You already have enough on your plate managing the toxicpeople in
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Progress is based on how much the individual is able to challenge his individual karma which to varying degree is resisting change. Every Teacher knows you can't just push a button and then all of a sudden you are alright. Maharishi said that inspiring stuff to inspire, not that he for a minute believed it was possible for everyone knowing how much internal resistence there can be in a student. Same With Yogananda, same with all Teachers. Progress is the responsebility of the individual, not the Teacher. Blaming the teacher just expose an immature soul. Given that he never said any of that, how do you know that's what he thought? A good teacher would make it part of the teaching. I think you're making excuses using things you've picked up from elsewhere, just like Willytex does below. It's OK, I know why you do it, you are trying to preserve an idea you like and excuse why it doesn't work for others while simultaneously giving yourself a pat on the back for being so advanced you have no internal resistance. Besides, I don't care about any of it, I do TM because I like it not because I believe any of the hocus pocus cosmic intelligence nonsense. I've seen and heard enough to be able to give a good account of what TM is and what it can do. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The anger and self-loathing the naysayers have is based on that. It doesn't trouble you that Willytex is talking complete and utter bollocks as usual? Why can't you follow your own arguments? Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. So the technique isn't as effective as claimed? If everyone thinks that, why do you get annoyed when someone points it out? Then they blame the teacher for their misery and end up using an internet forum to vent their anger. What a joke. Misery? It's the people with sense of internal logical consistency I feel sorry for round here. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition. That we are already enlightened isn't Marshy's teaching, that's just Willy's make believe to excuse his own lack of evolution. You guys ought to own the knowledge and stop contradicting yourselves all the time. Steve even thinks that he isn't the same as me and MJ even though he doesn't believe it all either! When was the last time a True Believer made sense round here? Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
Ha Ha! Excellent. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : What a piece of crappy journalism. Jessica Stillman hasn't got a clue! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. So common, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able to come up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling is the effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymie projects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on their better-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biological and Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found that exposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind of exposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains to have a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author Travis Bradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actually cause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experienced firsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So how can you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurting your productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozen techniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump. Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endless complaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessary stress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company, advises Bradberry. People often feel pressure to listen to complainers because they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine line between lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negative emotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by setting limits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If the complainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling the second-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how they intend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either put the conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to live to fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. In conflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind of battle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Choose your battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity can be catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endless crankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemate affects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttons if you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you can better choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it this way--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells you he's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you find yourself with a co-worker who is engaged in similarly derailed thinking, sometimes it's best to just smile and nod. If you're going to have to straighten them out, it's better to give yourself some time to plan the best way to go about it, Bradberry offers as an illustration. 4. Defend your joy Making your happiness contingent on the happiness of people who love to be miserable is a losing game. When your sense of pleasure and satisfaction are derived from the opinions of other people, you are no longer the master of your own happiness. When emotionally intelligent people feel good about something that they've done, they won't let anyone's opinions or snide remarks take that away from them, Bradberry insists. So train yourself to take others' commentary with a grain of salt and let your own feelings about your accomplishments take the lead. 5. Focus on solutions You can't make your toxic colleagues any less crazy, so don't waste your time ruminating on their many, many faults. That will just drag you down to their level. Instead try to focus on positive and practical measures you can take to deal with them. This makes
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
Sorry, Fleetwood, I'm grateful you posted the article and I found it very useful. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People If you can, with great effort and mental exertion, get past the title, there is some great advice there, especially the first one: Set Limits. I also liked, Defend Your Joy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, having read 75% of Emotional Intelligence 2.0 by Bradberry and Greaves, I'd say that the phrase toxic people is NOT very emotionally intelligent! Plus, I have not seen any phrase even suggesting such a concept in the book. The authors focus on toxic behavior and how to manage it. After self awareness and self management, the other crucial elements of EI, according to them, are social awareness and relationship management. Which means understanding people and their emotions and dealing with all that in a healthy way. I'm 99% sure that labeling someone toxic would not lead to healthy thinking, feeling or behaving about the other person or the situation! At least in the EI contexts I've encountered. My guess is that the author of the article wanted a title that would grab people's attention. According to meme theory, any title that evokes fear is most likely to accomplish that. Plus she used a popular phrase that would offer people a false sense of safety in something familiar. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 9:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. Socommon, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able tocome up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling isthe effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymieprojects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on theirbetter-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biologicaland Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found thatexposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind ofexposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains tohave a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author TravisBradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actuallycause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experiencedfirsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So howcan you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurtingyour productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozentechniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump.Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endlesscomplaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessarystress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company,advises Bradberry.People often feel pressure to listen to complainersbecause they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine linebetween lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negativeemotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by settinglimits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If thecomplainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling thesecond-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how theyintend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either putthe conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to liveto fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. Inconflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind ofbattle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Chooseyour battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity canbe catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endlesscrankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemateaffects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttonsif you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you canbetter choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it thisway--if a mentally unstable person approaches
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
All I think is that it's a wild ride, and I appear to be having some cool random brain functioning or whatever else you want to call it. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The anger and self-loathing the naysayers have is based on that. It doesn't trouble you that Willytex is talking complete and utter bollocks as usual? Why can't you follow your own arguments? Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. So the technique isn't as effective as claimed? If everyone thinks that, why do you get annoyed when someone points it out? Then they blame the teacher for their misery and end up using an internet forum to vent their anger. What a joke. Misery? It's the people with sense of internal logical consistency I feel sorry for round here. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition. That we are already enlightened isn't Marshy's teaching, that's just Willy's make believe to excuse his own lack of evolution. You guys ought to own the knowledge and stop contradicting yourselves all the time. Steve even thinks that he isn't the same as me and MJ even though he doesn't believe it all either! When was the last time a True Believer made sense round here? Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
Sounds like this hit a little too close to home, huh, Michael? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : What a piece of crappy journalism. Jessica Stillman hasn't got a clue! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. So common, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able to come up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling is the effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymie projects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on their better-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biological and Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found that exposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind of exposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains to have a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author Travis Bradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actually cause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experienced firsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So how can you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurting your productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozen techniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump. Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endless complaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessary stress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company, advises Bradberry. People often feel pressure to listen to complainers because they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine line between lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negative emotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by setting limits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If the complainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling the second-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how they intend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either put the conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to live to fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. In conflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind of battle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Choose your battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity can be catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endless crankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemate affects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttons if you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you can better choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it this way--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells you he's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you find yourself with a co-worker who is engaged in similarly derailed thinking, sometimes it's best to just smile and nod. If you're going to have to straighten them out, it's better to give yourself some time to plan the best way to go about it, Bradberry offers as an illustration. 4. Defend your joy Making your happiness contingent on the happiness of people who love to be miserable is a losing game. When your sense of pleasure and satisfaction are derived from the opinions of other people, you are no longer the master of your own happiness. When emotionally intelligent people feel good about something that they've done, they won't let anyone's opinions or snide remarks take that away from them, Bradberry insists. So train yourself to take others' commentary with a grain of salt and let your own feelings about your accomplishments take the lead. 5. Focus on solutions You can't make your toxic colleagues any less crazy, so don't waste your time ruminating on their many, many faults. That will just drag you down to their level. Instead try to focus on positive and practical measures
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
I see that Bradberry used the phrase toxic people. I'm surprised and still think it's emotionally unhealthy to label people that way. Healthier imo to focus on the toxic behavior and look for solutions to that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People What a piece of crappy journalism. Jessica Stillman hasn't got a clue! From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. Socommon, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able tocome up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling isthe effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymieprojects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on theirbetter-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biologicaland Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found thatexposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind ofexposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains tohave a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author TravisBradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actuallycause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experiencedfirsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So howcan you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurtingyour productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozentechniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump.Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endlesscomplaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessarystress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company,advises Bradberry.People often feel pressure to listen to complainersbecause they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine linebetween lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negativeemotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by settinglimits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If thecomplainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling thesecond-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how theyintend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either putthe conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to liveto fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. Inconflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind ofbattle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Chooseyour battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity canbe catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endlesscrankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemateaffects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttonsif you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you canbetter choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it thisway--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells youhe's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you findyourself with a co-worker who is engaged in similarly derailed thinking,sometimes it's best to just smile and nod. If you're going to have tostraighten them out, it's better to give yourself some time to plan the bestway to go about it, Bradberry offers as an illustration. 4. Defend your joy Making your happiness contingent on the happiness ofpeople who love to be miserable is a losing game. When your sense ofpleasure and satisfaction are derived from the opinions of other people, youare no longer the master of your own happiness. When emotionally intelligentpeople feel good about something that they've done, they won't let anyone'sopinions or snide remarks take that away from them, Bradberry insists. So train yourself to take others' commentary with a grainof salt and let your own feelings about your accomplishments take the lead. 5. Focus on solutions You can't make your
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
I've kinda become regular in my afternoon mediation, but I think I'm too fatigue laden to have anything other than a hazy transcending. But every once in a while something opens up, maybe akin to PC. On the other hand, it's the eyes open, activity phase where I seem to log some progress. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Besides, I don't care about any of it, I do TM because I like it not because I believe any of the hocus pocus cosmic intelligence nonsense. I've seen and heard enough to be able to give a good account of what TM is and what it can do. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The anger and self-loathing the naysayers have is based on that. It doesn't trouble you that Willytex is talking complete and utter bollocks as usual? Why can't you follow your own arguments? Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. So the technique isn't as effective as claimed? If everyone thinks that, why do you get annoyed when someone points it out? Then they blame the teacher for their misery and end up using an internet forum to vent their anger. What a joke. Misery? It's the people with sense of internal logical consistency I feel sorry for round here. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition. That we are already enlightened isn't Marshy's teaching, that's just Willy's make believe to excuse his own lack of evolution. You guys ought to own the knowledge and stop contradicting yourselves all the time. Steve even thinks that he isn't the same as me and MJ even though he doesn't believe it all either! When was the last time a True Believer made sense round here? Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
ROFLMAO! From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People Sounds like this hit a little too close to home, huh, Michael? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : What a piece of crappy journalism. Jessica Stillman hasn't got a clue! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. Socommon, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able tocome up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling isthe effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymieprojects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on theirbetter-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biologicaland Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found thatexposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind ofexposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains tohave a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author TravisBradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actuallycause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experiencedfirsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So howcan you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurtingyour productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozentechniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump.Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endlesscomplaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessarystress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company,advises Bradberry.People often feel pressure to listen to complainersbecause they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine linebetween lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negativeemotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by settinglimits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If thecomplainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling thesecond-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how theyintend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either putthe conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to liveto fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. Inconflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind ofbattle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Chooseyour battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity canbe catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endlesscrankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemateaffects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttonsif you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you canbetter choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it thisway--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells youhe's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you findyourself with a co-worker who is engaged in similarly derailed thinking,sometimes it's best to just smile and nod. If you're going to have tostraighten them out, it's better to give yourself some time to plan the bestway to go about it, Bradberry offers as an illustration. 4. Defend your joy Making your happiness contingent on the happiness ofpeople who love to be miserable is a losing game. When your sense ofpleasure and satisfaction are derived from the opinions of other people, youare no longer the master of your own happiness. When emotionally intelligentpeople feel good about something that they've done, they won't let anyone'sopinions or snide remarks take that away from them, Bradberry insists. So train yourself to take others' commentary with a grainof salt and let your own feelings about your accomplishments take the lead. 5. Focus on solutions You can't make your toxic colleagues any less crazy, sodon't waste your time ruminating on their many, many faults. That will justdrag you down to their
[FairfieldLife] salyavin808's declining present brain function, was Curtis's declining brain functioning
Progress is based on how much the individual is able to challenge his individual karma which to varying degree is resisting change. Every Teacher knows you can't just push a button and then all of a sudden you are alright. Maharishi said that inspiring stuff to inspire, not that he for a minute believed it was possible for everyone knowing how much internal resistence there can be in a student. Same With Yogananda, same with all Teachers. Progress is the responsebility of the individual, not the Teacher. Blaming the teacher just expose an immature soul. On 11/2/2014 6:58 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Given that he never said any of that, how do you know that's what he thought? A good teacher would make it part of the teaching. I think you're making excuses using things you've picked up from elsewhere, just like Willytex does below. It's OK, I know why you do it, you are trying to preserve an idea you like and excuse why it doesn't work for others while simultaneously giving yourself a pat on the back for being so advanced you have no internal resistance. /Apparently you are not an educator - every teacher knows that it's the student that is supposed to complete the lessons and pass the test. A teacher gives you the tools - it's up to the student to do the work//. A really good teacher will inspire the student to surpass the teacher in knowledge and achievement. In any case, you're not supposed to stay in school your entire life. At a certain point most students graduate. Go figure. // A teaching is given on one level of consciousness; it is received on quite another. - MMY // //Unless your karma is such that you are fortunate enough to meet a master yogi who is gifted with shaktipat, in which case their is instant vidya. In that case, all you have to do is deal with through guru yoga. Good luck./ Besides, I don't care about any of it, I do TM because I like it not because I believe any of the hocus pocus cosmic intelligence nonsense. I've seen and heard enough to be able to give a good account of what TM is and what it can do. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : / The anger and self-loathing the naysayers have is based on that. / / / /It doesn't trouble you that Willytex is talking complete and utter bollocks as usual? Why can't you follow your own arguments?/ / / /Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. / / / So the technique isn't as effective as claimed? If everyone thinks that, why do you get annoyed when someone points it out? / / /Then they blame the teacher for their misery and end up using an internet forum to vent their anger. What a joke. / / / Misery? It's the people with sense of internal logical consistency I feel sorry for round here. //If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition.// // // That we are already enlightened isn't Marshy's teaching, that's just Willy's make believe to excuse his own lack of evolution. You guys ought to own the knowledge and stop contradicting yourselves all the time. Steve even thinks that he isn't the same as me and MJ even though he doesn't believe it all either! When was the last time a True Believer made sense round here? Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? //Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. /The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? / /You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. / If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition./// // /
[FairfieldLife] salyavins808's declining brain function, was Curtis's declining brain functioning
/Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. / / / On 11/2/2014 6:08 AM, salyavin808 wrote: That we are already enlightened isn't Marshy's teaching, that's just Willy's make believe to excuse his own lack of evolution. /According to SBS, Brahman is the Light //itself - it needs no other illumination. All you need to do is separate the darkness from the light, and let your light shine. To get out of the darkness, you just provide light. It's not complicated./ You guys ought to own the knowledge and stop contradicting yourselves all the time. Steve even thinks that he isn't the same as me and MJ even though he doesn't believe it all either! /Non sequitur./ When was the last time a True Believer made sense round here? Go figure... /According to Barry, a True Believer who has witnessed para-normal events with his own eyes, is proof enough to become a TB./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? //Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. /The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? / /You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. / If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition./// // /
[FairfieldLife] Re: Deutsch on AI
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : (Snippity snip) Xeno writes: I have often felt that regarding human beings as simply computational machines with running programs and grasping appendages and transducers (speech and hearing) often simplifies interaction with others of my species (and other species as well), and provides an apposite explanation for the rather odd behaviour, that from the perspective of this machine, infects my fellow mammals. This statement surprises no one. I can tell you work this way, it comes out in virtually everything you write. Here check out the heart and soul in this. Start at 3 minutes in if you dare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAd686quD_M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAd686quD_M
[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween Song
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Glad you liked it - I am waiting for my mouth to heal and not as active as usual, so I am pleased that my idleness found the devil's workshop. :-) This was my favorite one yet that you have posted. I was looking for an old vintage Halloween film clip with some ghouls and goblins gyrating around to go with this but came up empty. I'm going to keep looking. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : yes, very nice. upbeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : first song I have done in months, and I am happy with it - The title just refers to when I started the assembly line. Halloween Song (2:40) copyright Temple Dog 2014 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8
[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween Song
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Glad you liked it - I am waiting for my mouth to heal and not as active as usual, so I am pleased that my idleness found the devil's workshop. :-) I found a great thing. I adore these old and very weird cartoons, especially Betty Boop but here is a Disney clip that, if you played you music over the muted visuals of this should work pretty good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h03QBNVwX8Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h03QBNVwX8Q ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : yes, very nice. upbeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : first song I have done in months, and I am happy with it - The title just refers to when I started the assembly line. Halloween Song (2:40) copyright Temple Dog 2014 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8
[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween Song
Thanks - my interest in making music was foreshadowed by my little nine year old brain, figuring out that by using two tape recorders, I could crudely multi-track, by always playing in the background, the previous recording. Signal to noise ratio made it a mostly unsuccessful experiment. I called my virtual band, The Green Paint Cans. Then in 8th grade (age 13), I was in a band (in The Philippines), called, The 49th Parallel, which I chose because it sounded edgy and political, and vaguely related to the then Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese called it, The American War...). I was lead singer, and our only song was, Gloria, by Them. We had one performance. There were two twins in the band, both big guys, with the same brown bangs, plaid shirts, and black, square-framed glasses, the Gates brothers. And a bassist named John, also a big kid - went over to his house once, and his younger brother stepped out of the closet, smoking a newspaper rolled spliff, about a foot long. I am not much of a musician, but I absolutely enjoy diving into music, for a swim. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Very nice, shows real talent ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Glad you liked it - I am waiting for my mouth to heal and not as active as usual, so I am pleased that my idleness found the devil's workshop. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : yes, very nice. upbeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : first song I have done in months, and I am happy with it - The title just refers to when I started the assembly line. Halloween Song (2:40) copyright Temple Dog 2014 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8
[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween Song
Yay - growth, progress, evolution, zombies! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Glad you liked it - I am waiting for my mouth to heal and not as active as usual, so I am pleased that my idleness found the devil's workshop. :-) This was my favorite one yet that you have posted. I was looking for an old vintage Halloween film clip with some ghouls and goblins gyrating around to go with this but came up empty. I'm going to keep looking. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : yes, very nice. upbeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : first song I have done in months, and I am happy with it - The title just refers to when I started the assembly line. Halloween Song (2:40) copyright Temple Dog 2014 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8
[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween Song
Yes, I have seen this one! Great choice! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Glad you liked it - I am waiting for my mouth to heal and not as active as usual, so I am pleased that my idleness found the devil's workshop. :-) I found a great thing. I adore these old and very weird cartoons, especially Betty Boop but here is a Disney clip that, if you played you music over the muted visuals of this should work pretty good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h03QBNVwX8Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h03QBNVwX8Q ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : yes, very nice. upbeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : first song I have done in months, and I am happy with it - The title just refers to when I started the assembly line. Halloween Song (2:40) copyright Temple Dog 2014 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
Perhaps the article should have been titled: Seven techniques to handle elements of other people that you may find toxic, but such toxic elements are in no way meant to label such persons as 'toxic', and any reference to toxicity, is merely making a relative comparison, between normal social interaction, and the interaction with such individuals, and in no way is ever meant to imply that such individuals, are in whole, or in part, actually toxic. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I see that Bradberry used the phrase toxic people. I'm surprised and still think it's emotionally unhealthy to label people that way. Healthier imo to focus on the toxic behavior and look for solutions to that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People What a piece of crappy journalism. Jessica Stillman hasn't got a clue! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. So common, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able to come up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling is the effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymie projects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on their better-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biological and Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found that exposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind of exposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains to have a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author Travis Bradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actually cause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experienced firsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So how can you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurting your productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozen techniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump. Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endless complaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessary stress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company, advises Bradberry. People often feel pressure to listen to complainers because they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine line between lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negative emotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by setting limits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If the complainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling the second-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how they intend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either put the conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to live to fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. In conflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind of battle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Choose your battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity can be catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endless crankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemate affects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttons if you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you can better choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it this way--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells you he's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you find yourself with a co-worker who is engaged in similarly derailed thinking, sometimes it's best to just smile and nod. If you're going to have to straighten them out, it's better to give yourself some time to plan the best way to go about it,
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Perhaps the article should have been titled: Seven techniques to handle elements of other people that you may find toxic, but such toxic elements are in no way meant to label such persons as 'toxic', and any reference to toxicity, is merely making a relative comparison, between normal social interaction, and the interaction with such individuals, and in no way is ever meant to imply that such individuals, are in whole, or in part, actually toxic. Good one. I mean, truly toxic people, and they do exist, need to take responsibility for who they are and consequently what they do. All this semantic b.s. is exactly that, semantic b.s.. Skirting around the core of the issue - which is, some people are downright odious to be around, a real drag, a real drain and a real downer. Calling it by any other name is simply avoiding the true issue. It's kind of like those who believe kids shouldn't be graded in school because it might stunt or damage them in some way if they actually fail at something. Well, it is possible to fail at something and the sooner humans learn that the better off they will be later when there are real consequences beyond a lousy report card. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I see that Bradberry used the phrase toxic people. I'm surprised and still think it's emotionally unhealthy to label people that way. Healthier imo to focus on the toxic behavior and look for solutions to that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
On 11/2/2014 7:09 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sounds like this hit a little too close to home, huh, Michael? He doesn't like it when it gets too personal. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : What a piece of crappy journalism. Jessica Stillman hasn't got a clue! *From:* fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:40 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. So common, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able to come up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling is the effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymie projects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on their better-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biological and Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found that exposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind of exposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains to have a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author Travis Bradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actually cause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experienced firsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So how can you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurting your productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozen techniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump. Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endless complaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessary stress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company, advises Bradberry. People often feel pressure to listen to complainers because they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine line between lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negative emotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by setting limits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If the complainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling the second-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how they intend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either put the conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to live to fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. In conflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind of battle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Choose your battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity can be catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endless crankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemate affects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttons if you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you can better choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it this way--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells you he's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you find yourself with a co-worker who is engaged in similarly derailed thinking, sometimes it's best to just smile and nod. If you're going to have to straighten them out, it's better to give yourself some time to plan the best way to go about it, Bradberry offers as an illustration. 4. Defend your joy Making your happiness contingent on the happiness of people who love to be miserable is a losing game. When your sense of pleasure and satisfaction are derived from the opinions of other people, you are no longer the master of your own happiness. When emotionally intelligent people feel good about something that they've done, they won't let anyone's opinions or snide remarks take that away from them, Bradberry insists. So train yourself to take others' commentary with a grain of salt and let your own feelings about your accomplishments take the lead. 5. Focus on solutions You can't make your toxic colleagues any less crazy, so don't waste your time ruminating on their many, many faults. That will just drag you down to
[FairfieldLife] Mind, was Curtis's declining brain functioning
On 11/2/2014 6:19 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Progress is based on how much the individual is able to challenge his individual karma which to varying degree is resisting change. Every Teacher knows you can't just push a button and then all of a sudden you are alright. Maharishi said that inspiring stuff to inspire, not that he for a minute believed it was possible for everyone knowing how much internal resistence there can be in a student. Same With Yogananda, same with all Teachers. Progress is the responsebility of the individual, not the Teacher. Blaming the teacher just expose an immature soul. /Sometimes you learn things not through words but by actions. // // //In my Philosophy 101 class the teacher asked everyone if they thought things move or were static - I said something like thoughts don't move, that ideas and thoughts are just point-instants in the mind or something like that. // // //The teacher wadded up a page of notebook paper and threw it at me hitting me on the head. Go figure./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : / The anger and self-loathing the naysayers have is based on that. / / / /It doesn't trouble you that Willytex is talking complete and utter bollocks as usual? Why can't you follow your own arguments?/ / / /Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. / / / So the technique isn't as effective as claimed? If everyone thinks that, why do you get annoyed when someone points it out? / / /Then they blame the teacher for their misery and end up using an internet forum to vent their anger. What a joke. / / / Misery? It's the people with sense of internal logical consistency I feel sorry for round here. //If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition.// // // That we are already enlightened isn't Marshy's teaching, that's just Willy's make believe to excuse his own lack of evolution. You guys ought to own the knowledge and stop contradicting yourselves all the time. Steve even thinks that he isn't the same as me and MJ even though he doesn't believe it all either! When was the last time a True Believer made sense round here? Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? //Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. /The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? / /You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. / If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition./// // /
[FairfieldLife] TurquoiseB's cognitive dissonance, was Maharishi's declining brain functioning
** Nice that we all can agree on so much here. World Peace is just a matter of money, (to support the group program). Evidently it should be better if we all would support the program more. On 11/2/2014 4:42 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: We certainly agree on this. The ONLY purpose of group program was to demand money. /The group program and residence courses I attended never demanded more money. In fact one nice weekend retreat with Jerry Jarvis at the Berkeley TM Center was only a few dollars donation.//Go figure./ The longer it doesn't work, the more opportunities there are to demand more money. /This where the cognitive dissonance comes in:/ /According to what I've read, Rama demanded a minimum of $1000 pledge in cash, a month in advance, in order to learn just the location of the group program. If the meeting was out in the Mohave Desert or in Paris, France, students were required to pay for their own transportation, food and lodging. Nobody was allowed to ride with Rama in his Porsche 911./ /If students could not or would not meet Rama's cash demands, they got kicked out of the cult and shunned until they paid up and signed a written contract for future lessons. If students got behind on their dues they were put on probation and had to wash and wax Rama's car every week for a month or two. If and when your dues were current, you might get to watch Rama slowly lift up off of a sofa at a Denny's Restaurant in downtown L.A./ Endless loop, paid for by idiots like Doug Hamilton. /Non sequitur./
[FairfieldLife] Past Technology on Mars
Evidence show that it was a valve imprint of some kind that became petrified.
That means millions of years ago there was a technological civilization that
used this device on the surface of Mars.
This would lead to many speculations about how that civilization ended, and
was it able to send spaceships here on earth for colonization.
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve' found in NASA image
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http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
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Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve...
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Is there life on Mars? According to images from NASA, the latest news suggests
that there is evidence of intelligent design on the Red Planet.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween Song
I didn't suspect you would still, these days I'm happy you didn't call it your art :-) Yet it must take quite a lot of knowledge, patience and talent to pull all those different elements together and make it work the way it does. What's the American word again, oh yes; cudos ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - my interest in making music was foreshadowed by my little nine year old brain, figuring out that by using two tape recorders, I could crudely multi-track, by always playing in the background, the previous recording. Signal to noise ratio made it a mostly unsuccessful experiment. I called my virtual band, The Green Paint Cans. Then in 8th grade (age 13), I was in a band (in The Philippines), called, The 49th Parallel, which I chose because it sounded edgy and political, and vaguely related to the then Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese called it, The American War...). I was lead singer, and our only song was, Gloria, by Them. We had one performance. There were two twins in the band, both big guys, with the same brown bangs, plaid shirts, and black, square-framed glasses, the Gates brothers. And a bassist named John, also a big kid - went over to his house once, and his younger brother stepped out of the closet, smoking a newspaper rolled spliff, about a foot long. I am not much of a musician, but I absolutely enjoy diving into music, for a swim. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Very nice, shows real talent ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Glad you liked it - I am waiting for my mouth to heal and not as active as usual, so I am pleased that my idleness found the devil's workshop. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : yes, very nice. upbeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : first song I have done in months, and I am happy with it - The title just refers to when I started the assembly line. Halloween Song (2:40) copyright Temple Dog 2014 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : He built cushy palaces for himself all over the world with silk wall paper and every other comfort he wanted. On 11/1/2014 6:30 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What it is with these enlightened guys? They always seem to love the good things in life - beautiful surroundings, nice rides, cashmere and silk clothing, expensive accoutrements in their fancy homes. What the hell? /You could hardly blame the Yogi for wanting to enjoy a two-room log cabin after living in a series of hotel rooms for thirty-five years. Why shouldn't the CEO of a billion dollar world-wide organization have a silk bedspread to wear and a few brass flower pots? / Oh, I guess they have something in common with the rest of us after all. I mean, I prefer a toilet to the woods and, when I can get it, toilet paper as well. /According to what I've read, they didn't have indoor toilets and running hot and cold water up at the SBS Jyotir monestery. During one winter I read that they didn't even have any salt for over a month. It gets so cold up there in the winter that they close the place temporarily and walk down to Alllahabad to enjoy some warmer weather./ /Go figure./ It was no sacrifice for him to follow his ambitious nature, become a millionaire, bang a bunch of white chicks and jet set around the world collecting celebrities like Parez Hilton to popularize his brand. Save the world from self-destruction? I don't even need to refute that claim, it does that fine just being repeated to shine in its absurd glory!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
Richard has some weird ideas regarding what is music and what is a cry for help under a thick cloud of noise. Other than that he's OK. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The anger and self-loathing the naysayers have is based on that. It doesn't trouble you that Willytex is talking complete and utter bollocks as usual? Why can't you follow your own arguments? Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. So the technique isn't as effective as claimed? If everyone thinks that, why do you get annoyed when someone points it out? Then they blame the teacher for their misery and end up using an internet forum to vent their anger. What a joke. Misery? It's the people with sense of internal logical consistency I feel sorry for round here. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition. That we are already enlightened isn't Marshy's teaching, that's just Willy's make believe to excuse his own lack of evolution. You guys ought to own the knowledge and stop contradicting yourselves all the time. Steve even thinks that he isn't the same as me and MJ even though he doesn't believe it all either! When was the last time a True Believer made sense round here? Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Richard has some problems distinguishing between music and what is simply a cry for help under a thick cloud of noise. Other than that he's OK. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The anger and self-loathing the naysayers have is based on that. It doesn't trouble you that Willytex is talking complete and utter bollocks as usual? Why can't you follow your own arguments? Not having much progress after years of practise is based on how their brains are wired and general karma. So the technique isn't as effective as claimed? If everyone thinks that, why do you get annoyed when someone points it out? Then they blame the teacher for their misery and end up using an internet forum to vent their anger. What a joke. Misery? It's the people with sense of internal logical consistency I feel sorry for round here. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition. That we are already enlightened isn't Marshy's teaching, that's just Willy's make believe to excuse his own lack of evolution. You guys ought to own the knowledge and stop contradicting yourselves all the time. Steve even thinks that he isn't the same as me and MJ even though he doesn't believe it all either! When was the last time a True Believer made sense round here? Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/31/2014 5:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: I was angry, because I honestly thought that someone in his condition should not be allowed to appear like that in public without help or any sort of explanation, what were they thinking over in Vlodrop? Over here in the USA, your prejudice is called ageism and it is unlawful. Everyone is free tor say whatever they want, regardless of their age. The real question is not what were they thinking over in Vlodrop - the question is, what were you thinking watching Maharishi videos after twenty years of not getting the enlightenment? You still sound angry - probably because you didn't get enlightened in 5-7 years, or even 20. If you were still a devotee after all that time, striving for something you already had, I would honestly think that it was maybe you that had a serious mental condition.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
That's right and when Curtis vent his anger his Pitta gets so out of control that he looses all sense of right and wrong. Was he ever personally involved in building any of Maharishi's rooms, no. But I was, and I happen to know there was no silk tapestry anywhere, the carpets we always got for a bargain somewhere and the furniture was from IKEA. It looks great from a distance and on tape but was cheaper to decorate than any of my own flats. According to what I've read, they didn't have indoor toilets and running hot and cold water up at the SBS Jyotir monestery. During one winter I read that they didn't even have any salt for over a month. It gets so cold up there in the winter that they close the place temporarily and walk down to Alllahabad to enjoy some warmer weather. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
I always thought it would be more likely that we found evidence of aliens in
the traces they left behind when they visited.
Think about it, the solar system has been here for 4 billion years-ish and
life has only appeared on Earth in any complexity in the last 500 million or so
and none of the lifeforms in all that time, would have known they were looking
at an alien if it landed in front of them. That sort of specialised knowledge
is the preserve of humans- or other specifically intelligent entities, of which
there are none on this planet and never have been on Mars - so if a wandering
alien species had visited the solar system and landed on Earth or Mars in all
the time they have been here it's highly unlikely we humans would have
encountered them, so we are far more likely to find traces of their craft as
they landed or footprints as they strolled about taking photos.
I don't think this is that though, the round bit next to the mark is nothing
significant, but the cross shape I would say, is an imprint of a robot arm
screw or some such. It's the most likely explanation because there just happens
to be a probe from Earth built using that sort of technology right next to it!
Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope
that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Evidence show that it was a valve imprint of some kind that became petrified.
That means millions of years ago there was a technological civilization that
used this device on the surface of Mars.
This would lead to many speculations about how that civilization ended, and
was it able to send spaceships here on earth for colonization.
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve' found in NASA image
{Report]
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve...
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Is there life on Mars? According to images from NASA, the latest news suggests
that there is evidence of intelligent design on the Red Planet.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Halloween Song
Yes, sort of like assembling a crossword puzzle, of music. Art is non-linear, right brain expression, needing the calculation and logic, of the left brain, to blend it all together, using relative values of sound, or color, or stone - Quite a profound playground of discovery, using fairly simple tools and techniques. There is also an emotional component, an imbuing of the piece, with the creator's (the artist's) personality, and the risk of that exposure, balanced against the audience's level of satisfaction. Far more profound in the performing arts, no doubt. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I didn't suspect you would still, these days I'm happy you didn't call it your art :-) Yet it must take quite a lot of knowledge, patience and talent to pull all those different elements together and make it work the way it does. What's the American word again, oh yes; cudos ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks - my interest in making music was foreshadowed by my little nine year old brain, figuring out that by using two tape recorders, I could crudely multi-track, by always playing in the background, the previous recording. Signal to noise ratio made it a mostly unsuccessful experiment. I called my virtual band, The Green Paint Cans. Then in 8th grade (age 13), I was in a band (in The Philippines), called, The 49th Parallel, which I chose because it sounded edgy and political, and vaguely related to the then Vietnam War (or as the Vietnamese called it, The American War...). I was lead singer, and our only song was, Gloria, by Them. We had one performance. There were two twins in the band, both big guys, with the same brown bangs, plaid shirts, and black, square-framed glasses, the Gates brothers. And a bassist named John, also a big kid - went over to his house once, and his younger brother stepped out of the closet, smoking a newspaper rolled spliff, about a foot long. I am not much of a musician, but I absolutely enjoy diving into music, for a swim. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Very nice, shows real talent ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Glad you liked it - I am waiting for my mouth to heal and not as active as usual, so I am pleased that my idleness found the devil's workshop. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : yes, very nice. upbeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : first song I have done in months, and I am happy with it - The title just refers to when I started the assembly line. Halloween Song (2:40) copyright Temple Dog 2014 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi, was Curtis's declining brain functioning
On 11/1/2014 12:00 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes the Maharishi was a martyr myth, I know it well. /After he graduated from university, MMY apparently worked for a number of years in a factory. According to what I've read, he gave up his job to become a celibate student under SBS - that alone makes him a martyr, since he could have got married and had a career; he could have stayed at home instead of touring the world for forty years trying to help people with declining brain function. Case in point./ The idea that an ambitious guy like Maharishi who showed no reclusive tendencies before or after the two years he claimed to have been camping in Uttar Kashi is absurd. /Apparently everyone that wants to get to the Upper Kashi has to hike up there, so that itself indicates a certain desire to be reclusive. There's no Starbucks up there - m//aybe an open air food cart or two during the tourist season./ He was no more prone to sit around in a cave taking his morning dump outside than Donald Trump. He was used to living in the Hindu Vatican. And what did he do as soon as he had the means? /He built himself a cave to meditate in out in the back of beyond?/ He built cushy palaces for himself all over the world with silk wall paper and every other comfort he wanted. /For the last twenty years of his life, MMY lived in a two room apartment in a log cabin. He neither drank nor smoked nor took drugs, according to what I've read. / It was no sacrifice for him to follow his ambitious nature, become a millionaire, bang a bunch of white chicks /This sounds like a double standard - you've probably banged a few chicks yourself, maybe a few black ones too, being a singer and band member and all. So why shouldn't a yogi guy get to bang a few white chicks, since he was white himself. Sometimes you sound prejudiced, even JELLOS. Go figure./ and jet set around the world collecting celebrities like Parez Hilton to popularize his brand. /The big difference, as I see it, is that he took a jet to get around while you probably took a cab around to popularize your band, or a city bus./ Save the world from self-destruction? I don't even need to refute that claim, it does that fine just being repeated to shine in its absurd glory! /Non sequitur./ /Most blues singers have a similar message - to save the world from self-destruction - using trance and rhythm to get into a grove based on the religious music of the Afro-American community, or spirituals. There are very few blues men that were not believers in heaven and hell and the glory of the Lord./
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Could be that any physical evidence on earth, has yet to be discovered - I am
astounded by the uncovering, in the UK, for example, of ancient jewelry and
treasure - seems to happen on a monthly basis. In addition, the mammal and fish
species we are continuing to discover, globally. I tend towards highly
skeptical, regarding direct physical evidence of spaceships on earth, since
nothing has been discovered yet, though 500M years is long enough for mountains
to form or subside, and the same with lakes and coastlines, so a lot of area
still to cover.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
I always thought it would be more likely that we found evidence of aliens in
the traces they left behind when they visited.
Think about it, the solar system has been here for 4 billion years-ish and
life has only appeared on Earth in any complexity in the last 500 million or so
and none of the lifeforms in all that time, would have known they were looking
at an alien if it landed in front of them. That sort of specialised knowledge
is the preserve of humans- or other specifically intelligent entities, of which
there are none on this planet and never have been on Mars - so if a wandering
alien species had visited the solar system and landed on Earth or Mars in all
the time they have been here it's highly unlikely we humans would have
encountered them, so we are far more likely to find traces of their craft as
they landed or footprints as they strolled about taking photos.
I don't think this is that though, the round bit next to the mark is nothing
significant, but the cross shape I would say, is an imprint of a robot arm
screw or some such. It's the most likely explanation because there just happens
to be a probe from Earth built using that sort of technology right next to it!
Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope
that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Evidence show that it was a valve imprint of some kind that became petrified.
That means millions of years ago there was a technological civilization that
used this device on the surface of Mars.
This would lead to many speculations about how that civilization ended, and
was it able to send spaceships here on earth for colonization.
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve' found in NASA image
{Report]
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve...
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Is there life on Mars? According to images from NASA, the latest news suggests
that there is evidence of intelligent design on the Red Planet.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Halloween Song
Sounds good. Would make a good road movie title track. My only comment would be that the drums need some reverb as they sound dry compared to the other tracks and it would give them some depth. On 11/01/2014 08:27 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: first song I have done in months, and I am happy with it - The title just refers to when I started the assembly line. Halloween Song (2:40) copyright Temple Dog 2014 https://app.box.com/s/k8sjbyoowm0k042lraz8
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. Images The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2014 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scientific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
What specific facilities are you making this claim about? It was silk wallpaper, not tapestries at the College of Natural Law. Maharishi didn't have enough aesthetic sense for art . At CNL the rugs were the highest quality of thick genuine wool, in Seelisberg the chairs were gold leafed. Your denial of the luxury he lived in is like him claiming he had no pockets in his dhoti, a ridiculous cover up attempt. That is not to say that he was not cheap about his facilities and didn't let them run down into disrepair. But that is because his primary activity was real estate investment and rehabbing facilities using unpaid labor to flip them for a profit. Selling TM was way down the list of his money making schemes. Or taking care of his full time people with extravagances like health care. Your routine only works on people who were not living in his facilities for years. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's right and when Curtis vent his anger his Pitta gets so out of control that he looses all sense of right and wrong. Was he ever personally involved in building any of Maharishi's rooms, no. But I was, and I happen to know there was no silk tapestry anywhere, the carpets we always got for a bargain somewhere and the furniture was from IKEA. It looks great from a distance and on tape but was cheaper to decorate than any of my own flats. According to what I've read, they didn't have indoor toilets and running hot and cold water up at the SBS Jyotir monestery. During one winter I read that they didn't even have any salt for over a month. It gets so cold up there in the winter that they close the place temporarily and walk down to Alllahabad to enjoy some warmer weather. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Mahahorsie and Edg
This is what I wanted to happen when I met Maharishi. I wanted just his sheer BEING to calm me down in my utter bewilderment. This video makes me cry unreservedly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKaJOREiBw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKaJOREiBw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Yes a civilization that can make circles in crops by smooching them down in a pattern is really a wonder to behold isn't it? BTW do you any other reason to jump from we don't know how these were made to we know it was aliens from any other source than Creme claiming it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. Images The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2014 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scientific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
They have left evidence but we just think it is broken pottery. :-D
On 11/02/2014 12:21 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
I always thought it would be more likely that we found evidence of
aliens in the traces they left behind when they visited.
Think about it, the solar system has been here for 4 billion years-ish
and life has only appeared on Earth in any complexity in the last 500
million or so and none of the lifeforms in all that time, would have
known they were looking at an alien if it landed in front of them.
That sort of specialised knowledge is the preserve of humans- or other
specifically intelligent entities, of which there are none on this
planet and never have been on Mars - so if a wandering alien species
had visited the solar system and landed on Earth or Mars in all the
time they have been here it's highly unlikely we humans would have
encountered them, so we are far more likely to find traces of their
craft as they landed or footprints as they strolled about taking photos.
I don't think this is that though, the round bit next to the mark is
nothing significant, but the cross shape I would say, is an imprint of
a robot arm screw or some such. It's the most likely explanation
because there just happens to be a probe from Earth built using that
sort of technology right next to it!
Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live
in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Evidence show that it was a valve imprint of some kind that became
petrified. That means millions of years ago there was a technological
civilization that used this device on the surface of Mars.
This would lead to many speculations about how that civilization
ended, and was it able to send spaceships here on earth for colonization.
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve' found in NASA image
{Report]
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
image
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve...
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Is there life on Mars? According to images from NASA, the latest news
suggests that there is evidence of intelligent design on the Red Planet.
View on www.examiner.com
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
I went to see Charlie Lutes in Cedar Rapids. I wanted to see if he could possibly overcome all the negativity I had towards all things esoteric that had amassed since I last had attended a talk of his 27 years earlier. He gave an aged-old-man-mind's-grinding-down-pure-feeble short lecture and then opened to questions. I asked: Charlie, back in Berkeley, CA I PERSONALLY heard you say that they would be finding a spaceship inside of the pyramids -- a ship that Jesus used. When do you think they'll find it? He said, I never said any such thing. BAM -- with that he ended any and all hopes of me being a true believer again. It was the saddest 20 bucks I ever spent. Fucking liar is how he ended up. What's more instructive than that? SO THANKS, CHARLIE! As for screw-head marks on Mars -- give me a break. I discovered the first man on Mars -- yep, I was the first to see a man on Mars and reported it on the Net to several sites at the time. Here he is -- far more real than any screw. Upper right corner -- with glasses and bow tie. http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
You're a bald faced liar Edg. That's a Windsor knot, and everyone knows the Windsor knot was particular to Venus, and never got past earth. Nice try. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip As for screw-head marks on Mars -- give me a break. I discovered the first man on Mars -- yep, I was the first to see a man on Mars and reported it on the Net to several sites at the time. Here he is -- far more real than any screw. Upper right corner -- with glasses and bow tie. http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. A circle found this year wouldn't be evidence they have been here, it would be evidence they are STILL here. Seems a shame there's no way of telling the existence of their necessarily sophisticated alien presence apart from something my and a my mates could do in a few hours with a plank of wood and a garden roller. Images The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2014 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scientific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahahorsie and Edg
Nice, video, Doesn't particularly move me, but in your case, Williams Syndrome is a little different. Yes, to utter bewilderment, but it has the opposite effect of calming you down. Know what I'm sayin' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This is what I wanted to happen when I met Maharishi. I wanted just his sheer BEING to calm me down in my utter bewilderment. This video makes me cry unreservedly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKaJOREiBw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKaJOREiBw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I went to see Charlie Lutes in Cedar Rapids. I wanted to see if he could possibly overcome all the negativity I had towards all things esoteric that had amassed since I last had attended a talk of his 27 years earlier. He gave an aged-old-man-mind's-grinding-down-pure-feeble short lecture and then opened to questions. I asked: Charlie, back in Berkeley, CA I PERSONALLY heard you say that they would be finding a spaceship inside of the pyramids -- a ship that Jesus used. When do you think they'll find it? He said, I never said any such thing. BAM -- with that he ended any and all hopes of me being a true believer again. It was the saddest 20 bucks I ever spent. Fucking liar is how he ended up. What's more instructive than that? SO THANKS, CHARLIE! As for screw-head marks on Mars -- give me a break. I discovered the first man on Mars -- yep, I was the first to see a man on Mars and reported it on the Net to several sites at the time. Here he is -- far more real than any screw. Upper right corner -- with glasses and bow tie. http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547... http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG View on mars.nasa.gov http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG Preview by Yahoo Oh my God, it's legendary English lothario Frank Muir! I always wondered what happened to him...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Indeed, AND make 100.000 pounds in doing so within 1 night without leaving footprints or breaking a single straw. Trouble is, we all know you can't do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. A circle found this year wouldn't be evidence they have been here, it would be evidence they are STILL here. Seems a shame there's no way of telling the existence of their necessarily sophisticated alien presence apart from something my and a my mates could do in a few hours with a plank of wood and a garden roller. Images The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2014 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scientific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
It seems quite obvious that there's a worn footpath through the entire work.looks like the mid-line they used for getting their design oriented, and then they didn't need it for the pattern and only a few stalks bent askew here and there show their path. Between all the separate objects I think I see disturbed plants where a person would have walked between the areas. BAH!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
If you don't mind me reminding you Curtis, the post was made to Sal, not you. Now, please retire to where ever you came from and continue to torment those poor drums. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Yes a civilization that can make circles in crops by smooching them down in a pattern is really a wonder to behold isn't it? BTW do you any other reason to jump from we don't know how these were made to we know it was aliens from any other source than Creme claiming it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. Images The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2014 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scientific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
Yes dear Curtis, certainly Maharishi should have consulted you, being an expert in art and all :-) Anyway, did Maharishi live in the CNL ? I was referring to his private quaters which I was personally involved with. My words about what it did cost stands, you are just guessing and gossipping trying to bring others Down to Your Level - as usual. PS: A friend of mine gold-leafed those chairs in Seelisberg with 2 layers of 100% genuine copper applying schellack on top of it. Costed about 8 dollars pr. chair. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : What specific facilities are you making this claim about? It was silk wallpaper, not tapestries at the College of Natural Law. Maharishi didn't have enough aesthetic sense for art . At CNL the rugs were the highest quality of thick genuine wool, in Seelisberg the chairs were gold leafed. Your denial of the luxury he lived in is like him claiming he had no pockets in his dhoti, a ridiculous cover up attempt. That is not to say that he was not cheap about his facilities and didn't let them run down into disrepair. But that is because his primary activity was real estate investment and rehabbing facilities using unpaid labor to flip them for a profit. Selling TM was way down the list of his money making schemes. Or taking care of his full time people with extravagances like health care. Your routine only works on people who were not living in his facilities for years. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's right and when Curtis vent his anger his Pitta gets so out of control that he looses all sense of right and wrong. Was he ever personally involved in building any of Maharishi's rooms, no. But I was, and I happen to know there was no silk tapestry anywhere, the carpets we always got for a bargain somewhere and the furniture was from IKEA. It looks great from a distance and on tape but was cheaper to decorate than any of my own flats. According to what I've read, they didn't have indoor toilets and running hot and cold water up at the SBS Jyotir monestery. During one winter I read that they didn't even have any salt for over a month. It gets so cold up there in the winter that they close the place temporarily and walk down to Alllahabad to enjoy some warmer weather. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If you don't mind me reminding you Curtis, the post was made to Sal, not you. Now, please retire to where ever you came from and continue to torment those poor drums. Now now, I'm sure anyone can join in on any thread they like. That's how it's always been anyway... And besides, Curtis isn't always here so he may not know that the official reason the Space Brothers do crop circles is so they can let us know they're here but without scaring us to death by giving us any actually indisputable evidence. Which is the sort of perfectly reasonable explanation that he won't question I'm sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Yes a civilization that can make circles in crops by smooching them down in a pattern is really a wonder to behold isn't it? BTW do you any other reason to jump from we don't know how these were made to we know it was aliens from any other source than Creme claiming it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. Images The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2014 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scientific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Let's see what happens, but somehow I think the Britons prefer Crop Circles in some Fields in Wiltshire rather than engraved in stone around Picadilly Circus. But you'd have to admit it would be rather fun ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If you don't mind me reminding you Curtis, the post was made to Sal, not you. Now, please retire to where ever you came from and continue to torment those poor drums. Now now, I'm sure anyone can join in on any thread they like. That's how it's always been anyway... And besides, Curtis isn't always here so he may not know that the official reason the Space Brothers do crop circles is so they can let us know they're here but without scaring us to death by giving us any actually indisputable evidence. Which is the sort of perfectly reasonable explanation that he won't question I'm sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Yes a civilization that can make circles in crops by smooching them down in a pattern is really a wonder to behold isn't it? BTW do you any other reason to jump from we don't know how these were made to we know it was aliens from any other source than Creme claiming it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. Images The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2014 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scientific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Let's see what happens, but somehow I think the Britons prefer Crop Circles in some Fields in Wiltshire rather than engraved in stone around Picadilly Circus. But you'd have to admit it would be rather fun ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If you don't mind me reminding you Curtis, the post was made to Sal, not you. Now, please retire to where ever you came from and continue to torment those poor banjo's. Now now, I'm sure anyone can join in on any thread they like. That's how it's always been anyway... And besides, Curtis isn't always here so he may not know that the official reason the Space Brothers do crop circles is so they can let us know they're here but without scaring us to death by giving us any actually indisputable evidence. Which is the sort of perfectly reasonable explanation that he won't question I'm sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Yes a civilization that can make circles in crops by smooching them down in a pattern is really a wonder to behold isn't it? BTW do you any other reason to jump from we don't know how these were made to we know it was aliens from any other source than Creme claiming it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. Images The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2014 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scientific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
[FairfieldLife] R.I.P. Acker Bilk
Trad jazz English clarinettist Acker Bilk dropped the body today. His Stranger on the Shore has to be a serious contender for the most-beautiful popular music release ever. (And the first No. 1 single in the US by a British artist!) Fantastic tear-jerker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jzx664u5DA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jzx664u5DA
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
chernobyll...@yahoogroups.com From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People On 11/2/2014 7:09 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sounds like this hit a little too close to home, huh, Michael? He doesn't like it when it gets too personal. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : What a piece of crappy journalism. Jessica Stillman hasn't got a clue! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. So common, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able to come up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling is the effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymie projects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on their better-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biological and Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found that exposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind of exposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains to have a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author Travis Bradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actually cause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experienced firsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So how can you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurting your productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozen techniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump. Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endless complaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessary stress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company, advises Bradberry. People often feel pressure to listen to complainers because they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine line between lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negative emotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by setting limits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If the complainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling the second-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how they intend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either put the conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to live to fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. In conflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind of battle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Choose your battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity can be catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endless crankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemate affects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttons if you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you can better choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it this way--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells you he's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you find yourself with a co-worker who is engaged in similarly derailed thinking, sometimes it's best to just smile and nod. If you're going to have to straighten them out, it's better to give yourself some time to plan the best way to go about it, Bradberry offers as an illustration. 4. Defend your joy Making your happiness contingent on the happiness of people who love to be miserable is a losing game. When your sense of pleasure and satisfaction are derived from the opinions of other people, you are no longer the master of your own happiness. When emotionally intelligent people feel good about something that they've done, they won't let anyone's opinions or snide remarks take that away from them, Bradberry insists. So train
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yes dear Curtis, certainly Maharishi should have consulted you, being an expert in art and all :-) Anyway, did Maharishi live in the CNL ? M: It was built for his visits. So his opulent rooms were used very little. Does that make it better? N:I was referring to his private quaters which I was personally involved with. My words about what it did cost stands, you are just guessing and gossipping trying to bring others Down to Your Level - as usual. M: I worked there for a year. His accommodations were public knowledge to us residents. PS: A friend of mine gold-leafed those chairs in Seelisberg with 2 layers of 100% genuine copper applying schellack on top of it. Costed about 8 dollars pr. chair. M: If that is true then I stand corrected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : What specific facilities are you making this claim about? It was silk wallpaper, not tapestries at the College of Natural Law. Maharishi didn't have enough aesthetic sense for art . At CNL the rugs were the highest quality of thick genuine wool, in Seelisberg the chairs were gold leafed. Your denial of the luxury he lived in is like him claiming he had no pockets in his dhoti, a ridiculous cover up attempt. That is not to say that he was not cheap about his facilities and didn't let them run down into disrepair. But that is because his primary activity was real estate investment and rehabbing facilities using unpaid labor to flip them for a profit. Selling TM was way down the list of his money making schemes. Or taking care of his full time people with extravagances like health care. Your routine only works on people who were not living in his facilities for years. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's right and when Curtis vent his anger his Pitta gets so out of control that he looses all sense of right and wrong. Was he ever personally involved in building any of Maharishi's rooms, no. But I was, and I happen to know there was no silk tapestry anywhere, the carpets we always got for a bargain somewhere and the furniture was from IKEA. It looks great from a distance and on tape but was cheaper to decorate than any of my own flats. According to what I've read, they didn't have indoor toilets and running hot and cold water up at the SBS Jyotir monestery. During one winter I read that they didn't even have any salt for over a month. It gets so cold up there in the winter that they close the place temporarily and walk down to Alllahabad to enjoy some warmer weather. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If you don't mind me reminding you Curtis, the post was made to Sal, not you. Now, please retire to where ever you came from and continue to torment those poor drums. M: I do mind your insinuation that I am not welcome to comment on anything here on a public board because you don't like having your beliefs exposed as ludicrous. Use personal email to avoid that. Nice dodge to my question. Do have any reason to believe this than Creme told you so? The jump from we don't know what did this to we do know it was aliens is huge.Are you taking his word for it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Yes a civilization that can make circles in crops by smooching them down in a pattern is really a wonder to behold isn't it? BTW do you any other reason to jump from we don't know how these were made to we know it was aliens from any other source than Creme claiming it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. Images The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2014 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scientific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 03-Nov-14 00:15:07 UTC
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
I should have known that you have already been down this road Sal. That sounds like a perfectly reasonable explanation as long as you don't think about it for more than... shit! There it goes. If this is their method of communication perhaps we should trample down a request for them to either cure cancer or take the Kardashian family into space with them as a goodwill gesture ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If you don't mind me reminding you Curtis, the post was made to Sal, not you. Now, please retire to where ever you came from and continue to torment those poor drums. Now now, I'm sure anyone can join in on any thread they like. That's how it's always been anyway... And besides, Curtis isn't always here so he may not know that the official reason the Space Brothers do crop circles is so they can let us know they're here but without scaring us to death by giving us any actually indisputable evidence. Which is the sort of perfectly reasonable explanation that he won't question I'm sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Yes a civilization that can make circles in crops by smooching them down in a pattern is really a wonder to behold isn't it? BTW do you any other reason to jump from we don't know how these were made to we know it was aliens from any other source than Creme claiming it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. Images The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2014 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crop-Circles-UFOs-Ancient-Mysteries-Scientific-Speculations/246667595346687?ref=tssk=wall
[FairfieldLife] Richard's declining brain functioning, was Curtis's declining brain functioning
On 11/2/2014 1:59 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Richard has some problems distinguishing between music and what is simply a cry for help under a thick cloud of noise. /It's true - I lost my sense of what is music and what is not. My decline started when rap music became popular and I lost it - can't keep up. Up until then, and including Punk and MC Hammer, I was doing alright and I was able to distinguish real music from noise even when I was under a thick cloud. Back when people could sing and play for real. It's a clear case of cognitive dissonance./ Other than that he's OK. /Other than being the old man that lives down the road.// // //http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
that may have been true in the old days, but it certainly wasn't true of his Vlodrop home or any of his residences in the US - I know people who worked on and in them - stop trying to make out like he was a poor itinerant preacher - he was a billionaire and his lackeys are still toting up the shillings everyday thanks to TM junkies even ones like you that the Movement can't stand and won't allow on their courses or in their facilities. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning That's right and when Curtis vent his anger his Pitta gets so out of control that he looses all sense of right and wrong. Was he ever personally involved in building any of Maharishi's rooms, no. But I was, and I happen to know there was no silk tapestry anywhere, the carpets we always got for a bargain somewhere and the furniture was from IKEA. It looks great from a distance and on tape but was cheaper to decorate than any of my own flats. According to what I've read, they didn't have indoor toilets and running hot and cold water up at the SBS Jyotir monestery. During one winter I read that they didn't even have any salt for over a month. It gets so cold up there in the winter that they close the place temporarily and walk down to Alllahabad to enjoy some warmer weather. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
Thanks Curtis - just shows what dummies we can be - I am referring to myself here - one of the things I never could understand about the Movement was its seeming unending lust for real estate. Why would they keep buying properties and claiming they were going to build such and so on them, then do nothing with them till they sold them later on? I never realized they were doing it to flip the property and make a profit. I just thought it was either some bizarre penchant Marshy had or the Movement's famous inefficiency. Thanks for enlightening me on this point. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning What specific facilities are you making this claim about? It was silk wallpaper, not tapestries at the College of Natural Law. Maharishi didn't have enough aesthetic sense for art . At CNL the rugs were the highest quality of thick genuine wool, in Seelisberg the chairs were gold leafed. Your denial of the luxury he lived in is like him claiming he had no pockets in his dhoti, a ridiculous cover up attempt. That is not to say that he was not cheap about his facilities and didn't let them run down into disrepair. But that is because his primary activity was real estate investment and rehabbing facilities using unpaid labor to flip them for a profit. Selling TM was way down the list of his money making schemes. Or taking care of his full time people with extravagances like health care. Your routine only works on people who were not living in his facilities for years. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's right and when Curtis vent his anger his Pitta gets so out of control that he looses all sense of right and wrong. Was he ever personally involved in building any of Maharishi's rooms, no. But I was, and I happen to know there was no silk tapestry anywhere, the carpets we always got for a bargain somewhere and the furniture was from IKEA. It looks great from a distance and on tape but was cheaper to decorate than any of my own flats. According to what I've read, they didn't have indoor toilets and running hot and cold water up at the SBS Jyotir monestery. During one winter I read that they didn't even have any salt for over a month. It gets so cold up there in the winter that they close the place temporarily and walk down to Alllahabad to enjoy some warmer weather. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] The Phenomenology of Consciousness
/So, I guess we've pretty much established that Chit - consciousness, is the One Absolute, according to the Kashmir Tantrism, which essentially agrees with the Sri Vidya - and the sayings of MMY on the Seven States of Consciousness vis a vis the Transcendental state - Turiya as mentioned in Mandukhya Upanishad.// // //emptybill: However, this One is different from both of these // // because It is attributeless and is by nature // // self-effulgent Consciousness -- as has been said // // in the Shruti... // //According to Chandrahar Sharma, these are essentially re-statements of Vinjnanavada Buddhism - the school of Consciousness-only founded by Arya Asanga and the Vasubandhu brothers - Yogacara.// // //So, let's review what we know:// // //Excerpt from 'vijnApti matratA siddhi' by vasAabAndhu:// // //Pure consciousness is the only Reality. By its nature, // //it is Self-luminous. (XIII, 13). Thus shaking off // //duality, he directly percieves the Absolute which is // //the unity underlying phenomena (dharmadAtu). (VI, 7 // //Sharma, p. 112-113). // // //Kashmir was a Mahayana Buddhist culture since the time of Ashoka (269 BC to 232 BC), for many decades, It may be that Buddhism was taken to Tibet from Kashmir by Shinran - or, in some accounts, Buddhism was taken to Tibet by Guru Padmasambhava, who may have lived near Kashmir, in the Swat Valley.// // //Buddhism in Kashmir:// //http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_in_kashmir// // //The term 'Trika' mean three - that comes from the idea that there are three levels of consciousness: waking, dreaming, and sleeping, and a fourth called the Transcendental state. Trika also means that there are three types of aspirants, so that there are three meditation techniques, one suitable for each person's level of spiritual ability.// // //1. Sambhavopaya is the level at which the // //meditator has given up the bija mantra and resides in // //pure consciousness. This is the level of Vajrayana // //'consciousness-only', which culminates in jivan-mukti, // //'liberated while yet living'. This is the path // //analagous to 'TM'.// // //2. Saktopaya is the level where the aspirant uses a // //form of concentration, such as concentration on a // //particular thought or sound, like a bija mantra or a // //phrase. He or she must develop 'God Consciousness' by // //simply meditating on this thought.// // //3. Anavopaya is that means in which a sadhaka must // //develop higher consciousness by resorting to // //meditation on the breath, the inhalation and the // //exhalation - Pranayama and the recitation of prayers, // //supplications, bowing, and repeating mantras.// // //Kashmir Trika Foundation:// //http://www.kashmirtrika.org/default.asp// // //Read more:// // //Subject: gauDapAdIya on the phenomenology of consciousness.// //Author: willytex// //Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental// //Date: Dec 17, 2002// //http://tinyurl.com/2umdf8x// // //Work cited:// // //'A Critical Survey of Indian Philosophy' // //by Chandrahar Sharma, M.A., D. Phil., D. Litt., LL.B., // //Shastri, Dept. of Phil., // //Benares Hindu U. // //Rider 1960. // //vimshAtika-Vrtti on kArikA 1, p. 114./
Re: [FairfieldLife] R.I.P. Acker Bilk
Bilk was not internationally known musician until an experiment with a string ensemble and a composition of his own as its keynote piece made him one in 1962. Upon the birth of his daughter, he composed and dedicated a melody entitled Jenny (her name). He was approached by a British television series for permission to use that melody, but to change the title to Stranger on the Shore. He went on to record it as the title track of a new album in which his signature deep, quivering clarinet was backed by the Leon Young String Chorale. The single was not only a big hit in the United Kingdom, where it stayed on the charts for 55 weeks, gaining a second wind after Bilk was the subject of the TV show This Is Your Life, but also shot to the top of the American charts From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] R.I.P. Acker Bilk Trad jazz English clarinettist Acker Bilk dropped the body today. HisStranger on the Shore has to be a serious contender for the most-beautiful popular music release ever. (And the first No. 1 single in the US by a British artist!) Fantastic tear-jerker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jzx664u5DA
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahahorsie and Edg
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This is what I wanted to happen when I met Maharishi. I wanted just his sheer BEING to calm me down in my utter bewilderment. This video makes me cry unreservedly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKaJOREiBw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKaJOREiBw If a horse can be said to have a face that combines no fear with curiosity, acceptance and gentleness this is it. And I have seen a lot of horse faces in my life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
They have left evidence but we just think it is broken pottery. :-D
Good one. For all we know every boulder was a left over equivalent of their
version of a pizza box.
On 11/02/2014 12:21 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
I always thought it would be more likely that we found evidence of aliens in
the traces they left behind when they visited.
Think about it, the solar system has been here for 4 billion years-ish and
life has only appeared on Earth in any complexity in the last 500 million or so
and none of the lifeforms in all that time, would have known they were looking
at an alien if it landed in front of them. That sort of specialised knowledge
is the preserve of humans- or other specifically intelligent entities, of which
there are none on this planet and never have been on Mars - so if a wandering
alien species had visited the solar system and landed on Earth or Mars in all
the time they have been here it's highly unlikely we humans would have
encountered them, so we are far more likely to find traces of their craft as
they landed or footprints as they strolled about taking photos.
I don't think this is that though, the round bit next to the mark is nothing
significant, but the cross shape I would say, is an imprint of a robot arm
screw or some such. It's the most likely explanation because there just happens
to be a probe from Earth built using that sort of technology right next to it!
Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope
that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote :
Evidence show that it was a valve imprint of some kind that became petrified.
That means millions of years ago there was a technological civilization that
used this device on the surface of Mars.
This would lead to many speculations about how that civilization ended, and
was it able to send spaceships here on earth for colonization.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
fleetncheese got it ... right off the bat! It's called sarcasm. Go figure. From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People On 11/2/2014 7:09 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sounds like this hit a little too close to home, huh, Michael? He doesn't like it when it gets too personal. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : What a piece of crappy journalism. Jessica Stillman hasn't got a clue! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People After Share mentioned Emotional Intelligence, I found this: http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/7-techniques-to-handle-toxic-people.html The sad reality is that toxic people are common. So common, in fact, that my Inc.com colleague Lolly Daskal was recently able to come up with 10 types or subspecies of this noxious breed. Equally troubling is the effect those individuals--who like to push others' buttons, stymie projects, and inject pessimism into every situation--can have on their better-adjusted co-workers. Recent research from the Department of Biological and Clinical Psychology at Friedrich Schiller University in Germany found that exposure to stimuli that cause strong negative emotions--the same kind of exposure you get when dealing with toxic people--caused subjects' brains to have a massive stress response, Emotional Intelligence 2.0 author Travis Bradberry recently wrote in his LinkedIn Influencer column. That level of stress, science has shown, can actually cause negative physical changes in your brain. You've probably experienced firsthand what that feels like subjectively--in short, it's terrible! So how can you stop these toxic people from messing with your mind, as well as hurting your productivity? In his hugely useful post, Bradberry offers a dozen techniques to take the sting out of your office crazy person or resident grump. Here are seven of the best. 1. Set limits Combine your niceness with someone else's love of endless complaint and you have a recipe for a whole lot of wasted time and unnecessary stress. Don't feel bound to indulge the constant kvetcher at your company, advises Bradberry. People often feel pressure to listen to complainers because they don't want to be seen as callous or rude, but there's a fine line between lending a sympathetic ear and getting sucked into their negative emotional spiral, he writes. You can avoid this only by setting limits and distancing yourself when necessary. Think of it this way: If the complainer were smoking, would you sit there all afternoon inhaling the second-hand smoke? How do you do this in practice? Just ask them how they intend to fix whatever it is they're complaining about. That should either put the conversation on a more positive track or quiet them down. 2. Choose your battles Successful people know how important it is to live to fight another day, especially when your foe is a toxic individual. In conflict, unchecked emotion makes you dig your heels in and fight the kind of battle that can leave you severely damaged, says Bradberry. Choose your battles wisely and only stand your ground when the time is right. 3. Keep tabs on your own emotions The danger of toxic people is that their negativity can be catching--even if you're usually not the type to get sucked into endless crankiness and gloom. So keep a sharp eye out for how your annoying officemate affects your emotions. You can't stop someone from pushing your buttons if you don't recognize when it's happening, he advises. By keeping tabs on when someone is riling you up, you can better choose calm times to deal with that person. Think of it this way--if a mentally unstable person approaches you on the street and tells you he's John F. Kennedy, you're unlikely to set him straight. When you find yourself with a co-worker who is engaged in similarly derailed thinking, sometimes it's best to just smile and nod. If you're going to have to straighten them out, it's better to give yourself some time to plan the best way to go about it, Bradberry offers as an illustration. 4. Defend your joy Making your happiness contingent on the happiness of people who love to be miserable is a losing game. When your sense of pleasure and satisfaction are derived from the opinions of other people, you are no longer the master of your own happiness. When emotionally intelligent people feel good about something that they've done, they won't let anyone's opinions or snide remarks take that away
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though Look no further than Essex. A circle found this year wouldn't be evidence they have been here, it would be evidence they are STILL here. Seems a shame there's no way of telling the existence of their necessarily sophisticated alien presence apart from something my and a my mates could do in a few hours with a plank of wood and a garden roller. I think the roller should be able to do this. I mean, what's the plank good for? Obviously I never graduated from crop circle school.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I went to see Charlie Lutes in Cedar Rapids. I wanted to see if he could possibly overcome all the negativity I had towards all things esoteric that had amassed since I last had attended a talk of his 27 years earlier. He gave an aged-old-man-mind's-grinding-down-pure-feeble short lecture and then opened to questions. I asked: Charlie, back in Berkeley, CA I PERSONALLY heard you say that they would be finding a spaceship inside of the pyramids -- a ship that Jesus used. When do you think they'll find it? He said, I never said any such thing. BAM -- with that he ended any and all hopes of me being a true believer again. It was the saddest 20 bucks I ever spent. Fucking liar is how he ended up. What's more instructive than that? SO THANKS, CHARLIE! As for screw-head marks on Mars -- give me a break. I discovered the first man on Mars -- yep, I was the first to see a man on Mars and reported it on the Net to several sites at the time. Here he is -- far more real than any screw. Upper right corner -- with glasses and bow tie. http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547... http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG View on mars.nasa.gov http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG Preview by Yahoo Oh my God, it's legendary English lothario Frank Muir! I always wondered what happened to him... Hilarious!! He even has those bulgy eyes.
[FairfieldLife] R.I.P Jack Bruce
/Jack Bruce. Cream bassist. May 14, 1943 - October 25, 2014. Aged 71// http://www.express.co.uk/news/obituaries/530177/Jack-Bruce-Cream-bassist// // //http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Bruce// // //Cream Live in the Royal Albert Hall//: http://youtu.be/nIKfECOE7GI/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yes dear Curtis, certainly Maharishi should have consulted you, being an expert in art and all :-) Anyway, did Maharishi live in the CNL ? I was referring to his private quaters which I was personally involved with. My words about what it did cost stands, you are just guessing and gossipping trying to bring others Down to Your Level - as usual. PS: A friend of mine gold-leafed those chairs in Seelisberg with 2 layers of 100% genuine copper applying schellack on top of it. Costed about 8 dollars pr. chair. Vey interesting. I like hearing the insider's version of what went down. Being a complete outsider when it comes to knowing about Maharishi and his personal interior decorating preferences this is a fascinating conversation and getting better by the minute.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : You're a bald faced liar Edg. That's a Windsor knot, and everyone knows the Windsor knot was particular to Venus, and never got past earth. Nice try. No kidding and I wouldn't call those glasses they are either bulgy eyes or marbles. What a hoax. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip As for screw-head marks on Mars -- give me a break. I discovered the first man on Mars -- yep, I was the first to see a man on Mars and reported it on the Net to several sites at the time. Here he is -- far more real than any screw. Upper right corner -- with glasses and bow tie. http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG http://mars.nasa.gov/mer/gallery/all/1/p/045/1P132185547EFF05AAP2561R1M1.JPG
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
This discussion about Maharishi's lifestyle came on the heels of Nabbie's absurd claim that Maharishi had sacrificed a lot by abandoning outdoor camping for living in the most beautiful tourist destinations in the world. The beauty of Seelsiberg is breathtaking and we were right over Lake Lucerne, one of the most glorious views I have ever seen. While it is true that he was not a Rollex watch type millionaire and although he had limos he had no fleets of Rolls Royces, his lifestyle perks were to travel anywhere in the world with whoever he wanted to take along. Have you read Judith Bourke's book? It describes how he would dump chicks he grew tired of by just not taking them along on his next jaunt. Maharishi's greatest interest seemed to be creating symposiums and events that would feature how wonderful he was reflected back to him by different groups of people, especially academic types. Sometimes it backfired when they got physicists who would not play ball with his fantasies as I saw at MIU in 1975. But usually he got people on his sycophant program to let him introduce analogies and then slip and slide into making outrageous claims. Is the unified field of physics an analogy for consciousness,or was he stating that this actually IS the field of consciousness? It depended on who he presented it to. His last wish for phallic towers of invincibility to be built in his honor kind of said it all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : that may have been true in the old days, but it certainly wasn't true of his Vlodrop home or any of his residences in the US - I know people who worked on and in them - stop trying to make out like he was a poor itinerant preacher - he was a billionaire and his lackeys are still toting up the shillings everyday thanks to TM junkies even ones like you that the Movement can't stand and won't allow on their courses or in their facilities. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning That's right and when Curtis vent his anger his Pitta gets so out of control that he looses all sense of right and wrong. Was he ever personally involved in building any of Maharishi's rooms, no. But I was, and I happen to know there was no silk tapestry anywhere, the carpets we always got for a bargain somewhere and the furniture was from IKEA. It looks great from a distance and on tape but was cheaper to decorate than any of my own flats. According to what I've read, they didn't have indoor toilets and running hot and cold water up at the SBS Jyotir monestery. During one winter I read that they didn't even have any salt for over a month. It gets so cold up there in the winter that they close the place temporarily and walk down to Alllahabad to enjoy some warmer weather. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: R.I.P Jack Bruce
Yep another fave goes down. Bruce also co-wrote most of Cream's hits. This one still knocks me out . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hftgytmgQgE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hftgytmgQgE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : This discussion about Maharishi's lifestyle came on the heels of Nabbie's absurd claim that Maharishi had sacrificed a lot by abandoning outdoor camping for living in the most beautiful tourist destinations in the world. The beauty of Seelsiberg is breathtaking and we were right over Lake Lucerne, one of the most glorious views I have ever seen. While it is true that he was not a Rollex watch type millionaire and although he had limos he had no fleets of Rolls Royces, his lifestyle perks were to travel anywhere in the world with whoever he wanted to take along. Have you read Judith Bourke's book? It describes how he would dump chicks he grew tired of by just not taking them along on his next jaunt. Maharishi's greatest interest seemed to be creating symposiums and events that would feature how wonderful he was reflected back to him by different groups of people, especially academic types. Sometimes it backfired when they got physicists who would not play ball with his fantasies as I saw at MIU in 1975. But usually he got people on his sycophant program to let him introduce analogies and then slip and slide into making outrageous claims. Is the unified field of physics an analogy for consciousness,or was he stating that this actually IS the field of consciousness? It depended on who he presented it to. His last wish for phallic towers of invincibility to be built in his honor kind of said it all. I would just like to ask a small and, no doubt, insignificant question here, but what towers aren't phallic?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Salyavin,
However one interprets this evidence, the fact remains that we have a
situation where an advanced group of beings made this imprint on Martian soil
that became petrified.
If you assume that this evidence was made by ETs then, there will be many
speculations as to where they came from, how they got there, and where they are
now.
If you assume that this evidence was made by Martians then, there will be
similar speculations as to who they were, when they flourished on the planet,
what happened to them, and the possible existence presently of Martians in
humanoid forms or other forms of life, such as microorganisms.
IMO, the rovers on Mars will find more evidence that life once existed on the
planet, and that they may still be there, despite the fact that the planet's
environment is deadly for humans here on earth.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
I always thought it would be more likely that we found evidence of aliens in
the traces they left behind when they visited.
Think about it, the solar system has been here for 4 billion years-ish and
life has only appeared on Earth in any complexity in the last 500 million or so
and none of the lifeforms in all that time, would have known they were looking
at an alien if it landed in front of them. That sort of specialised knowledge
is the preserve of humans- or other specifically intelligent entities, of which
there are none on this planet and never have been on Mars - so if a wandering
alien species had visited the solar system and landed on Earth or Mars in all
the time they have been here it's highly unlikely we humans would have
encountered them, so we are far more likely to find traces of their craft as
they landed or footprints as they strolled about taking photos.
I don't think this is that though, the round bit next to the mark is nothing
significant, but the cross shape I would say, is an imprint of a robot arm
screw or some such. It's the most likely explanation because there just happens
to be a probe from Earth built using that sort of technology right next to it!
Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope
that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Evidence show that it was a valve imprint of some kind that became petrified.
That means millions of years ago there was a technological civilization that
used this device on the surface of Mars.
This would lead to many speculations about how that civilization ended, and
was it able to send spaceships here on earth for colonization.
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve' found in NASA image
{Report]
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve...
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Is there life on Mars? According to images from NASA, the latest news suggests
that there is evidence of intelligent design on the Red Planet.
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[FairfieldLife] Michael's declining brain functioning, was Curtis's declining brain functioning
On 11/1/2014 12:53 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The idea that Marshy lived in seclusion after Guru Dev kicked the bucket is from only one source - Marshy. /You are mistaken - this is a matter of record according to Paul Mason. ///After the passing of SBS, he/ went to the Upper Kashi to take some time off - after thirteen years of service to the monestery - so he could mediate./ I think it much more likely that he spent that two years lounging around on his parents couch, sucking his thumb and sulking since he wasn't able to rub elbows with the Hindu elite he schmoozed with at GD's knee. /Apparently he spent time with the Shankaracharya - you can't get much more elite than that for schmoozing. / His old man raised hell with him for lazing around not looking for a job while his mommy cooed to him and fed him his favorite gulab jamons - only after his old man tossed him out on his ear did he decide to create a fake guru persona and seek his fortune by blabbering and not working. /According to what I've read, MMY was already known all over India for serving the Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath. He was in fact an unofficial representative when he went down to Kerala to attend the Spiritual Luminaries./ Had he been more astute he could have made more money more quickly by selling nostrums and snake oil - it would be another 25 years or so till he hit upon that idea. /Most anyone could have come up with the same ideas, except maybe you because you are too dumb. Go figure./ But all he did was predicated on people's gullibility and willingness to believe he was above normal men. /It's not that complicated - all he needed to do was think up a catchy name for a common Indian meditation technique he learned from SBS, and bring it to America. He already had the yogi look for the marketing. So, he meditated in the Himalayas with yogis and then came out of the Himalayas looking like a yogi. In America, if someone comes out of the Himalayas and he looks and talks like a yogi, then he probably is a yogi of some sort. / Work cited: *Maharishi: The Biography* By Paul Mason Element Books, 1994 *From:* curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 1, 2014 1:00 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning Yes the Maharishi was a martyr myth, I know it well. The idea that an ambitious guy like Maharishi who showed no reclusive tendencies before or after the two years he claimed to have been camping in Uttar Kashi is absurd. He was an advance man for Guru Dev, that is how Jerry described it to me. He was never sitting around, he was constantly busy promoting the image of his teacher which was also a hallmark of his active life in the movement where he promoted himself. He had a flair for the dramatic and the sensational:Yogic flying come one come all! He was no more prone to sit around in a cave taking his morning dump outside than Donald Trump. He was used to living in the Hindu Vatican. And what did he do as soon as he had the means? He built cushy palaces for himself all over the world with silk wall paper and every other comfort he wanted. It was no sacrifice for him to follow his ambitious nature, become a millionaire, bang a bunch of white chicks and jet set around the world collecting celebrities like Parez Hilton to popularize his brand. Save the world from self-destruction? I don't even need to refute that claim, it does that fine just being repeated to shine in its absurd glory! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Maharishi's life was a total sacrifice, he could have stayed in the Himalayas with a few students and pursued the refinements you are mentioning. He made his choice and he kept saying that he was a normal human being. He didn't have the time to pursue further physical developments, he hardly slept, instead there was a total focus on bringing the knowledge which could, and did, save the world from self-destruction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I suspect that folks were very disappointed that like some gurus MMY didn't stay sharp in mind until he decided it was time to bail and drop the body. That's a lot of work but the whole thing about yoga is learning to control the autonomic nervous system and keep aging away. Some are good at and others not. Higher states of consciousness come as a by-product. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I changed the subjectline as it is more appropriate. Curtis is trying to distract attention from his own misery on the streets and
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Fleetwood,
The evidence we have here was found on Mars. We should focus our attention to
this evidence without including the possibilities that may have happened here
on earth.
It appears to me that this would lead the wealthy nations on earth to send
humans to Mars find out more about the planet and its past. This would also
give more credence to colonizing Mars for future humans to live there.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Could be that any physical evidence on earth, has yet to be discovered - I am
astounded by the uncovering, in the UK, for example, of ancient jewelry and
treasure - seems to happen on a monthly basis. In addition, the mammal and fish
species we are continuing to discover, globally. I tend towards highly
skeptical, regarding direct physical evidence of spaceships on earth, since
nothing has been discovered yet, though 500M years is long enough for mountains
to form or subside, and the same with lakes and coastlines, so a lot of area
still to cover.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
I always thought it would be more likely that we found evidence of aliens in
the traces they left behind when they visited.
Think about it, the solar system has been here for 4 billion years-ish and
life has only appeared on Earth in any complexity in the last 500 million or so
and none of the lifeforms in all that time, would have known they were looking
at an alien if it landed in front of them. That sort of specialised knowledge
is the preserve of humans- or other specifically intelligent entities, of which
there are none on this planet and never have been on Mars - so if a wandering
alien species had visited the solar system and landed on Earth or Mars in all
the time they have been here it's highly unlikely we humans would have
encountered them, so we are far more likely to find traces of their craft as
they landed or footprints as they strolled about taking photos.
I don't think this is that though, the round bit next to the mark is nothing
significant, but the cross shape I would say, is an imprint of a robot arm
screw or some such. It's the most likely explanation because there just happens
to be a probe from Earth built using that sort of technology right next to it!
Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope
that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Evidence show that it was a valve imprint of some kind that became petrified.
That means millions of years ago there was a technological civilization that
used this device on the surface of Mars.
This would lead to many speculations about how that civilization ended, and
was it able to send spaceships here on earth for colonization.
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve' found in NASA image
{Report]
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve...
http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report
Is there life on Mars? According to images from NASA, the latest news suggests
that there is evidence of intelligent design on the Red Planet.
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[FairfieldLife] Complete fabrications
should anyone be relatively new to this group it would be good to understand that at present it is full of complete fabrications about Maharishi. Stuff that is just completely manufactured with imaginative abandon, having no basis of any kind in reality. It would be a big waste of anyone time to bother to try counter it all. Do your own research before you believe anything you see here, it is almost entirely nonsense. and utterly dishonest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : I would just like to ask a small and, no doubt, insignificant question here, but what towers aren't phallic? Some more, some less. This one is more! MAHARISHI TOWER OF INVINCIBILITY | Global Country of World Peace http://www.globalcountry.org/wp/current-projects-2/tower-of-invincibility-for-every-nation/ http://www.globalcountry.org/wp/current-projects-2/tower-of-invincibility-for-every-nation/ MAHARISHI TOWER OF INVINCIBILITY | Global Co... http://www.globalcountry.org/wp/current-projects-2/tower-of-invincibility-for-every-nation/ Every Government Can Take the Lead in Establishing Permanent World Peace View on www.globalcountry.org http://www.globalcountry.org/wp/current-projects-2/tower-of-invincibility-for-every-nation/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : This discussion about Maharishi's lifestyle came on the heels of Nabbie's absurd claim that Maharishi had sacrificed a lot by abandoning outdoor camping for living in the most beautiful tourist destinations in the world. The beauty of Seelsiberg is breathtaking and we were right over Lake Lucerne, one of the most glorious views I have ever seen. While it is true that he was not a Rollex watch type millionaire and although he had limos he had no fleets of Rolls Royces, his lifestyle perks were to travel anywhere in the world with whoever he wanted to take along. Have you read Judith Bourke's book? It describes how he would dump chicks he grew tired of by just not taking them along on his next jaunt. Maharishi's greatest interest seemed to be creating symposiums and events that would feature how wonderful he was reflected back to him by different groups of people, especially academic types. Sometimes it backfired when they got physicists who would not play ball with his fantasies as I saw at MIU in 1975. But usually he got people on his sycophant program to let him introduce analogies and then slip and slide into making outrageous claims. Is the unified field of physics an analogy for consciousness,or was he stating that this actually IS the field of consciousness? It depended on who he presented it to. His last wish for phallic towers of invincibility to be built in his honor kind of said it all. I would just like to ask a small and, no doubt, insignificant question here, but what towers aren't phallic?
[FairfieldLife] Slander
Statements are being made here which are not merely opinions but demonstrably false claims. http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2014/10/30/libel-slander-facts/ http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2014/10/30/libel-slander-facts/ 4. No exceptions to the rule Bloggers and citizen journalists are held to the exact same defamation standards as reporters who are being paid to report regularly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Complete fabrications
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : should anyone be relatively new to this group it would be good to understand that at present it is full of complete fabrications about Maharishi. Stuff that is just completely manufactured with imaginative abandon, having no basis of any kind in reality. It would be a big waste of anyone time to bother to try counter it all. Do your own research before you believe anything you see here, it is almost entirely nonsense. and utterly dishonest. M: Excellent point. This link may help people trying to get the facts. http://robesofsilkfeetofclay.com/ http://robesofsilkfeetofclay.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Bhairitu,
The rovers may have just found a very tiny portion of evidence that life once
existed there. What if they're still living there?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
They have left evidence but we just think it is broken pottery. :-D
On 11/02/2014 12:21 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
I always thought it would be more likely that we found evidence of aliens in
the traces they left behind when they visited.
Think about it, the solar system has been here for 4 billion years-ish and
life has only appeared on Earth in any complexity in the last 500 million or so
and none of the lifeforms in all that time, would have known they were looking
at an alien if it landed in front of them. That sort of specialised knowledge
is the preserve of humans- or other specifically intelligent entities, of which
there are none on this planet and never have been on Mars - so if a wandering
alien species had visited the solar system and landed on Earth or Mars in all
the time they have been here it's highly unlikely we humans would have
encountered them, so we are far more likely to find traces of their craft as
they landed or footprints as they strolled about taking photos.
I don't think this is that though, the round bit next to the mark is nothing
significant, but the cross shape I would say, is an imprint of a robot arm
screw or some such. It's the most likely explanation because there just happens
to be a probe from Earth built using that sort of technology right next to it!
Bit tricky to avoid the accusation of contamination here, but I live in hope
that we find evidence of alien life somewhere though
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote :
Evidence show that it was a valve imprint of some kind that became petrified.
That means millions of years ago there was a technological civilization that
used this device on the surface of Mars.
This would lead to many speculations about how that civilization ended, and
was it able to send spaceships here on earth for colonization.
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve' found in NASA image {Report]
Mars evidence of intelligent design: 'Earth-valve... Is there life on Mars?
According to images from NASA, the latest news suggests that there is evidence
of intelligent design on the Red Planet.
View on www.examiner.com
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Slander
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Statements are being made here which are not merely opinions but demonstrably false claims. http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2014/10/30/libel-slander-facts/ http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2014/10/30/libel-slander-facts/ 4. No exceptions to the rule Bloggers and citizen journalists are held to the exact same defamation standards as reporters who are being paid to report regularly.
[FairfieldLife] early book on Maharishi
There exists an early book on Maharishi which it seems few people have been aware of. It contains information that contradicts recent accounts of Maharishi early life and the early movement and shows those accounts to be very superficial and biased . It involves first hand accounts from individuals in India. http://www.amazon.com/The-Maharishis-Himalayas-Elsa-Dragemark/dp/B0024Z55RW http://www.amazon.com/The-Maharishis-Himalayas-Elsa-Dragemark/dp/B0024Z55RW
[FairfieldLife] Re: Past Technology on Mars
Edg, That's an excellent find. Yes, I can see the human resemblance as well. If you can find tiny objects like these, you should look at the NASA rover data to find more evidence of past life on Mars.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slander
I get it that you are trying to shut down free speech you don't like but small problem: defamation doesn't apply to dead people. It is the exception. From your own link: To be defamation it must be. Be about an identifiable living person or company ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Statements are being made here which are not merely opinions but demonstrably false claims. http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2014/10/30/libel-slander-facts/ http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2014/10/30/libel-slander-facts/ 4. No exceptions to the rule Bloggers and citizen journalists are held to the exact same defamation standards as reporters who are being paid to report regularly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: early book on Maharishi
I have that book. What part do you want to bring to people's attention? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : There exists an early book on Maharishi which it seems few people have been aware of. It contains information that contradicts recent accounts of Maharishi early life and the early movement and shows those accounts to be very superficial and biased . It involves first hand accounts from individuals in India. http://www.amazon.com/The-Maharishis-Himalayas-Elsa-Dragemark/dp/B0024Z55RW http://www.amazon.com/The-Maharishis-Himalayas-Elsa-Dragemark/dp/B0024Z55RW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Complete fabrications
anyone new or old to this group would be extremely foolish to believe your bullshit because that's what it is. Marshy was a liar, cheat, con artist and sexual opportunist. He lived an wealthy lifestyle no question. From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Complete fabrications should anyone be relatively new to this group it would be good to understand that at present it is full of complete fabrications about Maharishi. Stuff that is just completely manufactured with imaginative abandon, having no basis of any kind in reality. It would be a big waste of anyone time to bother to try counter it all. Do your own research before you believe anything you see here, it is almost entirely nonsense. and utterly dishonest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Slander
Name the statements - don't be vague - name them. From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Slander Statements are being made here which are not merely opinions but demonstrably false claims. http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2014/10/30/libel-slander-facts/ 4. No exceptions to the rule Bloggers and citizen journalists are held to the exact same defamation standards as reporters who are being paid to report regularly.
Re: [FairfieldLife] early book on Maharishi
Read it years ago - nothing to write home about - I am more interested in his first book, Meditations of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in which he states very clearly the mantras he gave out are the names of gods, Hindu gods no less. So much for the meaningless sounds. The only meaningless sounds that ever issued forth from his lying mouth were his statements of lifelong celibacy and his predictions of world change from everyone doing TM. From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] early book on Maharishi There exists an early book on Maharishi which it seems few people have been aware of. It contains information that contradicts recent accounts of Maharishi early life and the early movement and shows those accounts to be very superficial and biased . It involves first hand accounts from individuals in India. http://www.amazon.com/The-Maharishis-Himalayas-Elsa-Dragemark/dp/B0024Z55RW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning
On 11/2/2014 7:09 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This discussion about Maharishi's lifestyle came on the heels of Nabbie's absurd claim that Maharishi had sacrificed a lot by abandoning outdoor camping for living in the most beautiful tourist destinations in the world. The beauty of Seelsiberg is breathtaking and we were right over Lake Lucerne, one of the most glorious views I have ever seen. While it is true that he was not a Rollex watch type millionaire and although he had limos he had no fleets of Rolls Royces, his lifestyle perks were to travel anywhere in the world with whoever he wanted to take along. Have you read Judith Bourke's book? It describes how he would dump chicks he grew tired of by just not taking them along on his next jaunt. /There's no way Judith would know this, since she worked for the Maharishi for only two years and in just three locations, two in India. The reason he didn't take her up in the helicopter is because there was only room for one person and the pilot. When the group went up to Kashmir she had to ride the bus like everyone else. Even John Paul George and Ringo had to ///take a train to get to Bangor and /fly on public air transportation to get to India; they took a taxi to get to the ashram. Maybe you had to hitch-hike, who knows?/ Maharishi's greatest interest seemed to be creating symposiums and events that would feature how wonderful he was reflected back to him by different groups of people, especially academic types. Sometimes it backfired when they got physicists who would not play ball with his fantasies as I saw at MIU in 1975. But usually he got people on his sycophant program to let him introduce analogies and then slip and slide into making outrageous claims. Is the unified field of physics an analogy for consciousness,or was he stating that this actually IS the field of consciousness? It depended on who he presented it to. /Well, yes a symposium is a formal meeting at which experts discuss a particular topic: Bucky Fuller, Hans Selye, Marshall McLuhan - these are pretty impressive experts. Nobody ever said that the Maharishi didn't know how to organize a yoga camp - the guy was a marketing genius!/ His last wish for phallic towers of invincibility to be built in his honor kind of said it all. /It's very common in South Asian art and edifice architecture but none are phallic - you are projecting again.//Here is the name of the book we were required to read when I took Art History 101 at the local community college:/ *Myths and Symbols in Indian Art and Civilization* by Heinrich R. Zimmer Princeton University Press ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : that may have been true in the old days, but it certainly wasn't true of his Vlodrop home or any of his residences in the US - I know people who worked on and in them - stop trying to make out like he was a poor itinerant preacher - he was a billionaire and his lackeys are still toting up the shillings everyday thanks to TM junkies even ones like you that the Movement can't stand and won't allow on their courses or in their facilities. *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 2, 2014 3:08 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis's declining brain functioning That's right and when Curtis vent his anger his Pitta gets so out of control that he looses all sense of right and wrong. Was he ever personally involved in building any of Maharishi's rooms, no. But I was, and I happen to know there was no silk tapestry anywhere, the carpets we always got for a bargain somewhere and the furniture was from IKEA. It looks great from a distance and on tape but was cheaper to decorate than any of my own flats. /According to what I've read, they didn't have indoor toilets and running hot and cold water up at the SBS Jyotir monestery. During one winter I read that they didn't even have any salt for over a month. It gets so cold up there in the winter that they close the place temporarily and walk down to Alllahabad to enjoy some warmer weather./ /Go figure./
[FairfieldLife] Re: Complete fabrications
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : should anyone be relatively new to this group it would be good to understand that at present it is full of complete fabrications about Maharishi. Stuff that is just completely manufactured with imaginative abandon, having no basis of any kind in reality. It would be a big waste of anyone time to bother to try counter it all. Do your own research before you believe anything you see here, it is almost entirely nonsense. and utterly dishonest. You are most likely correct. There seems to be a whole lot of axes that require grinding here. It is more a place to be entertained, or not, than to be enlightened with the facts or with things that are not the subjective ramblings of the participants here - me included although I am not one of the MMY haters.
