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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: With all due respect to Rick, who in all likelihood really is a nice guy, I wouldn't trust his powers of discrimination any further than I could throw him. /me bites tongue.. OW! OK, assuming anyone can read this as the blood gushes from my mouth, I just gotta say that Unc's willingness to point fingers at everyone else has led me to severely damage myself. You'll be hearing from my lawyer, Barry. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. That was my mistake last time Steve. I believed that. I appreciate your balancing comments and genuine affection for the guy though. I've got a harder climb on that score. My sights are just focused on containment of damage this time around. As long as we've stopped pulling punches, we might as well lay the blame for Ravi having once again disrupted this forum and brought it down to his level where it belongs -- with Rick. Rick has now -- possibly in an attempt to be the nice guy he'd like to be perceived as -- allowed two people who would be better placed in mental hospitals to roam around here free, declaring their Enemies Lists, making actual threats, and most important, *getting worse themselves*. Is there any *question* that Ravi has grown more insane since returning to FFL, and being placed in a position of being able once again to troll for other people's attention? Is there any *question* that Dan Friedman has done the same thing, and is at this point dangerous to himself and others. All of this because Rick wants to be a nice guy rather than actually PAY SOME ATTENTION to what is happening on the forum he created, and what the crazy trolls are doing to it. Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. My bet is that Ravi was allowed to come back on the condition that he not start attacking Curtis and other people again, and that Dan was allowed to stay on the condition that he stop making threats of actual, physical violence against people here. Do you think either of those things happened? It's sad to see this place returned to the snake pit it was a few months ago. It's even sadder to realize that on some level the reason it has is that Rick seems to prefer it that way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjNJI54GMM http://tinyurl.com/yqxu2d
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D enriched milk, and tons of confidence to project a beamer of a smile full of orthodontist approved, well-flossed teeth. She was around eleven. Her brown hair was pulled into a loose pony tail by some fluorescent pink scrunchy fabric. The only thing out of the ordinary was that she crowded me a bit after she got her maraca. Younger kids will do this, and as the Mayor of Munchkin Land, it is up to me to get them to back off and give me some performance space. Decking one of the kids with my heavy steel resonator guitar in one of my tip inspiring flourishes, leaving them cold cocked on the boardwalk, would definitely cut into profits. But a girl this age usually keeps her distance, so it got my attention that she was standing very close to me with one side of her body. I swiveled my head and my eyes caught something that instantly put me on red alert. The arm she was crowding me with was cut off right below the elbow and she was using me to shield it from the audience. Her arm was not this way from birth. Something sinister and terrible had done this, and it left a fiery red zipper of violated flesh. Our eyes met and I gave her a nod. We were thick as thieves in an instant and she relaxed into a nervous giggle. Like a Sicilian made-man, I was bonded to her through omerta. It was a matter of trust, and I felt it in my chest. We began to play close like Sonny and a miniature Cher. People probably thought she was my niece or something, who else would play together with this familiarity? Her father was all smiles. She was a brave kid, this is not easy performing in front of strangers. A crowd formed supporting the cute little girl and the bluesman. They had no clue to the fierceness of her jagged asymmetry. She kept herself sideways, showing the world who she wanted to be, and they bought it. At the song's end she shot me a conspiratorial look. I sensed something gritty in those eyes. A steeliness forged by the fires of pediatric ward hell. I wondered about her mom and dad, who had spent the hours in the hospital making the painful decisions that lead to this. Oh bullshit, I have no idea. She ran off back to her dad. His look combined sincere thanks with you have no idea. Or maybe I just read all that in myself, it is so hard to tell sometimes. When our eyes met I forgot to breath for a moment. I saw people moving in with tips in slow motion. Someday I hope she finds a real stand up guy. A guy who will always take her left side, and wrapping his arm around her far shoulder, will press her close, feeling her arm halfway across his own back, and she will feel safe and brave, facing the world. Beautifully written . and she will ;) JohnY
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The fascinating thing from my point of view, Curtis, is that Nabby (and possibly a few others here) go ballistic and react as if you had attacked *them* because you were less than guru- whipped and treated Maharishi just like any other person. Their level of identification with and attachment to *him* is so great that they really can't tell the difference any more between someone criticizing him and someone criticizing them. Let alone the difference between criticism and attack. Then there are those who never even *met* Maharishi, or even learned TM. But some of them may pounce on you and react to you bitch-slapping Maharishi as if you had slapped them, and thus challenged them to a duel. Very strange, if you ask me. I wouldn't be surprised if someone who has a history of going somewhat crazy when confronted with people he considers anti-guru will come back from his little vacation on the Stupid People's Bench and set his sights on you as well. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing. What course was that on? I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness. I thought you guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between Marley's ghost and the thought in meditation that inspires the marketing crew to try some new scheme to get TM into the lives beyond the 687 people who still practice it exclusively now. So you think a guy like Maharishi actually dies? And how do you imagine my bashing affects him? Is it like a disturbance in sleep like when someone in the bed farts and we almost wake up and then turn over? Or does it really get to him, do my words cause him to gnash his teeth and pound his fist into his hands in a Sienfeldesque CURTIS! Does he shake his fist at the sky like Jon Stewart and curse me from beyond the grave? Does he try to extract retribution on me in this world to get me back in some way like moving a chair when I sleep so I stub my toe during a mid-sleep groggy bathroom run? Exactly how pissed do my words make this spirit of Maharishi you imagine? Should I invest in a voodoo doll of him to avoid his evil eye? Now of course if your point was that when I posted the same perspective when he was alive he had a chance to challenge what I said directly, I would agree. I think we are both glad that he took so many opportunities to give his side here while he was living, and I do miss those exchanges. And how far does this ban about speaking ill of the dead extend Nabbie. Do we include Napoleon, Sun Myng Moon, John Lennon? What is the key aspect of the unfairness you seem to resent about it all? What if we have a public figure who is so boring that he might as well be dead like King Tony? Do I have to include him in the don't speak about the dead ban. Should we just ban all histories of famous dead people if the perspective isn't only positive? Or was this whole thing just a protective instinct, misguided though I believe it to be, to protect the magical illusions he tried to sell us all about himself during his life? Oh shit I have a fleck of dust in my eye...hey wait a minute...wasn't he a pile of dust the last time we saw him... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues Who would wish that on anybody? Ravi was right ofcourse, it didn't take long before the hillbilly-singer was back where he left us last time and where he's feeling most comfortable: Maharishi-bashing. If all else fails in life it's great to have someone to bash, particularily someone who's dead, don't you think ?
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Where was I...oh yeah, following gurus makes your dick fall off (ladies will have to speak for themselves on what it does to them) and it turns the object of your guru worship into a money grubbing sari chasing butthole, who cries themselves to sleep every night in a lonely pile of hundred dollar bills, while only receiving the minimal consolation of the comfort of the three pairs of perky globes of bliss on the Playboy centerfold TRIPLETS who share their beds. Who would wish that on anybody? Speaking of money-grubbing sari-chasing buttholes -- and to prove that I am an Equal Opportunity Guru Basher :-) -- I thought you'd enjoy this little anecdote from the Rama days...or daze. About the time I realized that he was lost in a haze of Valium abuse and narcissism and exited from the whole org stage left, a good friend of mine with video talents was asked by him to produce a music video of one of the songs performed by the group of musicians he formed, called Zazen. This was a song from a supposedly enlightened dance album called Techno Zen Master. Lawdy, lawdy but I wish I could find a real copy of the video on the Net to share with you, but it appears that Dead Rama's lawyers have managed to remove every single copy. And with reason...it is even more embarrassing in some ways than the way he exited from this world. The song was called What is dancing? and Rama's concept for how to stage this video was to show him dancing around in a kind of surreal video landscape surrounded by Playboy Playmates. Really. Since the video was shot in Chicago, home to Playboy Enter- prises, this was possible. So they called Playboy headquarters and rented two former Playmates of the Month as models for the shoot. They danced around on the same stage as Rama, looking attractive but somewhat uncomfortable with it all. I later found out why, from my friend who had produced the video. T'would seem that Rama -- by then used to his students lavishing him with indiscriminate adoration, fully expected the two Playmates to do the same thing. He kept flirting with them and making inappropriate suggestions that they go get it on with him, *fully expecting this to happen*. The Playmates reacted pretty much the same way they would have if the creep making stupid passes at them had been Ravi, and blew him off. When he didn't get the hint even then, and kept coming on to them, they blew off the entire shoot and left. My friend the producer had to use what footage he'd gotten in their first few minutes in the studio to complete the video. The kicker or *point* of all of this? Rama's students at the time just *loved* this video. They thought it was the best music video they'd ever seen, and fully expected it to go big on MTV (this was long before YouTube) and bring in hordes of new converts. As you point out in this thoughtful essay, damage is done on both sides when narcissism is allowed to spiral out of control in a supposedly spiritual context. Theoretically rational people looked at this hideously embarrassing video and thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Crazy? Think back...theoretically rational people listened to Maharishi promoting the insanely dumb idea of Vedaland and thought *that* was the best thing since sliced bread, too. Some of them still think so. Meanwhile the person they put up on such a pedestal of WAY- Better-Than-We-Are-ness sucked up all the attention, believed it, and got crazier and crazier and crazier. Rama died sucking down booze and Valiums and Long Island Sound water. Maharishi died re-enacting scenes from King Lear, imploring people who had already given him a million dollars each for the privilege of being able to wear robes and crowns and call themselves Rajas to compete with each other for the privilege of giving the most money to...uh...erect phallic symbols with his name on them all over the planet. They're both safely dead, and having to deal with the karma of long-term attention vampirism in the Bardo or in their next lives somewhere. But the people who GAVE them that attention? Some of them are still as lost in their delusional worlds as they were when they were staring up at the person who they'd placed on a pedestal the size of the Vampire State Building. All so sad. And all so unnecessary. Teachers could be content to just be teachers. Not gurus. Not gods. Not the best, or even better than other human beings. Just teachers. Spiritual teaching itself wouldn't have gotten such a bad rep if more of them had done just that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Steve, This speaks (outside this particular context) of whether or not we ever are doing someone a favor by conferring on them guru status. At first the payoff seems obvious, they get rich, and if they are so inclined, they get their pick of some high end tail. But unless they really have the narcissist or psychopathic tendency strongly, somewhere there is
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: The fascinating thing from my point of view, Curtis, is that Nabby (and possibly a few others here) go ballistic and react as if you had attacked *them* because you were less than guru- whipped and treated Maharishi just like any other person. Their level of identification with and attachment to *him* is so great that they really can't tell the difference any more between someone criticizing him and someone criticizing them. Let alone the difference between criticism and attack. (snip) So, herein lies the answer; you couldn't have stated it more clearly... Before one is enlightened, there is this thing called 'Indentification'... It's the small self, the ego, identifying with something, to which it has become attached. Like you are saying, it has little to do with the focus of the attachment, but more to do with attachment itself... This is one thing that The Maharishi left out of the teaching; that is how to get out of this thing called attachment... In a way it is worse than an addiction, because in the case of addiction, at least most people know that they are addicted... Attachment is much more subtle, in that one doesn't even see how attached one is... One actually believes they are being attacked, when no one is being attacked... It's just the attachment that is being called into question. I hope this makes some sense, and can help Curtis, because I feel that you are a good soul, and putting yourself through stuff that is unnecessary. Whatever you feel about this word 'Maharishi' and all the feelings it brings up for you, if you can see the attachment to this word, within yourself, you will be a lot clearer about the whole thing.
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Hi Steve, I just looked up ontology. Already knew what first person means. I think! So how about: personal reality. Maybe not a better way to say, but maybe simpler. Robin? Some reason to use less familiar phraseology? As for men and women, I like this insight from an expert: women need to feel love to have sex; men need to have sex to feel love. Another one of Life's little jokes, yes? From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 11:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I subscribe to the idea that one should always sleep with one eye open.  But, then again, I lack trust and am a somewhat suspicious woman who's been burned at the stake more than once, so to speak.  I wear a crown of thorns around my heart for protection, mind you and I'm liable to say fuck you as easily as I say love you.  From a man's perspective, don't they both mean the same thing?  Now, I have to get back to responding to Robin...where was I?  Oh yeah, it's all about experienceobjective or subjectively interpreted, conditioned of course by my postmodern upbringing.  When in doubt, just throw in first person ontology. I still haven't figured out what it is. I suspect there's a better way of saying. But it sounds important. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Curtis: . . . . Love, Emily :) P.S.  Don't lose that wicked sense of humor, now.  Oh now don't YOU start too! \ From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, I'm glad you latched on the arrogantly hating part - it was indeed for you and Barry to claim, you two - who are the apt metaphors for the Hindu demons - the demons symbolizing ignorance, deception among other things. OMG did you just pull an I know you are but what am I on me? Damn that is an old school smackdown. I know I can never stop your deception - you will always your captive audience. See here is where you kind of roll off the rails. You broke into Nabby's typical you are a hillbilly because you say bad things about Maharishi routine, but you don't know the Maharishi, you were just piling on because you sensed it was negative toward me. So your specific complaint here, what it is you are claiming I am deceptive about is lacking. Do you mean I am a deceiver the way George Bush identifies evil doers? It has a you are a poppy pants flabbiness that doesn't convey much more than I am unhappy and I want you to be too. My message was for the others on this list and the lurkers reading this - there are lots and lots of cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick free passes (not Dallas Mavericks, mind you) - lying around, hidden from your sight of course..LOL.. - it's their choice to pick it up or not. Right, you are playing to an imaginary crowd who is fascinated by a guy who never knew Maharishi, try to defend him by insulting a stranger while using Sarah Palin's tagline. I'm afraid you missed your chance for an audience unless you appear on a future episode of divorce court. I don't think there's any doubt about the nature of my brazen, outrageous, overt grandiosity and narcissism - that's the strength of my belief in my self-honesty and integrity. No, that hasn't been working for you for a long time Ravi. And now I'll be less flip with you. The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until they do, why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet no big deal. No one here is a rock star by any measure. We are just a bunch of people chatting. All those groups of people you ruminate over are no group at all, they are just separate people logging in to chat here. There is a more authentic you who has shown up here before you went off the rails last time. Put him on sometime and you might get different results. No one is gunna whip anyone's ass or triumph over anyone here. We are just talk'n past each other right now. Love, Ravi First step toward authenticity might be to drop the creepy tag line. Our posts are not expressions
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Turquoise is right. Sometimes people land at FFL because they need a place to act out their pathologies, and they think they can do it here without suffering any real-world repercussions. But it does tend to pollute our environment here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. That was my mistake last time Steve. I believed that. I appreciate your balancing comments and genuine affection for the guy though. I've got a harder climb on that score. My sights are just focused on containment of damage this time around. As long as we've stopped pulling punches, we might as well lay the blame for Ravi having once again disrupted this forum and brought it down to his level where it belongs -- with Rick. Rick has now -- possibly in an attempt to be the nice guy he'd like to be perceived as -- allowed two people who would be better placed in mental hospitals to roam around here free, declaring their Enemies Lists, making actual threats, and most important, *getting worse themselves*. Is there any *question* that Ravi has grown more insane since returning to FFL, and being placed in a position of being able once again to troll for other people's attention? Is there any *question* that Dan Friedman has done the same thing, and is at this point dangerous to himself and others. All of this because Rick wants to be a nice guy rather than actually PAY SOME ATTENTION to what is happening on the forum he created, and what the crazy trolls are doing to it. Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. My bet is that Ravi was allowed to come back on the condition that he not start attacking Curtis and other people again, and that Dan was allowed to stay on the condition that he stop making threats of actual, physical violence against people here. Do you think either of those things happened? It's sad to see this place returned to the snake pit it was a few months ago. It's even sadder to realize that on some level the reason it has is that Rick seems to prefer it that way.
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That's a great (and funny) example. Thanks. Yea, I've looked it up and come to a similiar conclusion about what it means. It's just that it's one of those phrases that makes me chuckle. It lends itself to some funny lines. Of course they don't make any sense, but they sound kind of funny. I saw my first person ontologist yesterday and she said I should really lose a few pounds First person ontology was really difficult this semester --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Hi Steve, I just looked up ontology. Already knew what first person means. I think! So how about: personal reality. Maybe not a better way to say, but maybe simpler. Robin? Some reason to use less familiar phraseology? As for men and women, I like this insight from an expert: women need to feel love to have sex; men need to have sex to feel love. Another one of Life's little jokes, yes? From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 11:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I subscribe to the idea that one should always sleep with one eye open. àBut, then again, I lack trust and am a somewhat suspicious woman who's been burned at the stake more than once, so to speak. àI wear a crown of thorns around my heart for protection, mind you and I'm liable to say fuck you as easily as I say love you. àFrom a man's perspective, don't they both mean the same thing? àNow, I have to get back to responding to Robin...where was I? àOh yeah, it's all about experienceobjective or subjectively interpreted, conditioned of course by my postmodern upbringing. àWhen in doubt, just throw in first person ontology. I still haven't figured out what it is. I suspect there's a better way of saying. But it sounds important.  From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Curtis: . . . . Love, Emily :) P.S. ÃâàDon't lose that wicked sense of humor, now. ÃâàOh now don't YOU start too! \ From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret Ãâà--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, I'm glad you latched on the arrogantly hating part - it was indeed for you and Barry to claim, you two - who are the apt metaphors for the Hindu demons - the demons symbolizing ignorance, deception among other things. OMG did you just pull an I know you are but what am I on me? Damn that is an old school smackdown. I know I can never stop your deception - you will always your captive audience. See here is where you kind of roll off the rails. You broke into Nabby's typical you are a hillbilly because you say bad things about Maharishi routine, but you don't know the Maharishi, you were just piling on because you sensed it was negative toward me. So your specific complaint here, what it is you are claiming I am deceptive about is lacking. Do you mean I am a deceiver the way George Bush identifies evil doers? It has a you are a poppy pants flabbiness that doesn't convey much more than I am unhappy and I want you to be too. My message was for the others on this list and the lurkers reading this - there are lots and lots of cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick free passes (not Dallas Mavericks, mind you) - lying around, hidden from your sight of course..LOL.. - it's their choice to pick it up or not. Right, you are playing to an imaginary crowd who is fascinated by a guy who never knew Maharishi, try to defend him by insulting a stranger while using Sarah Palin's tagline. I'm afraid you missed your chance for an audience unless you appear on a future episode of divorce court. I don't think there's any doubt about the nature of my brazen, outrageous, overt grandiosity and narcissism - that's the strength of my belief in my self-honesty and integrity. No, that hasn't been working for you for a long time Ravi. And now I'll be less flip with you. The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until they do, why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet no big deal. No one here is a rock star by any measure. We are just a bunch of people chatting. All those
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. The Ravi situation was strictly between Rick and Ravi. I did not get a subscription request; all I got was a notice that he was now a subscriber, which means Rick sent him an invite. I had no knowledge or involvement. WRT Dan, he subscribed and posted a string of profanity filled posts, and Rick told me to nuke him. When I received an attempted post by the then unsubscribed Dan, I wrote back to him with this: After that string of profanity filled posts the other day, Rick told me to boot you off FFL. You are no longer subscribed, and anything you try to post will not go through. After that, it was between Dan and Rick.
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Nice to hear from ya John. Much appreciated! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, JohnY john_youells@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D enriched milk, and tons of confidence to project a beamer of a smile full of orthodontist approved, well-flossed teeth. She was around eleven. Her brown hair was pulled into a loose pony tail by some fluorescent pink scrunchy fabric. The only thing out of the ordinary was that she crowded me a bit after she got her maraca. Younger kids will do this, and as the Mayor of Munchkin Land, it is up to me to get them to back off and give me some performance space. Decking one of the kids with my heavy steel resonator guitar in one of my tip inspiring flourishes, leaving them cold cocked on the boardwalk, would definitely cut into profits. But a girl this age usually keeps her distance, so it got my attention that she was standing very close to me with one side of her body. I swiveled my head and my eyes caught something that instantly put me on red alert. The arm she was crowding me with was cut off right below the elbow and she was using me to shield it from the audience. Her arm was not this way from birth. Something sinister and terrible had done this, and it left a fiery red zipper of violated flesh. Our eyes met and I gave her a nod. We were thick as thieves in an instant and she relaxed into a nervous giggle. Like a Sicilian made-man, I was bonded to her through omerta. It was a matter of trust, and I felt it in my chest. We began to play close like Sonny and a miniature Cher. People probably thought she was my niece or something, who else would play together with this familiarity? Her father was all smiles. She was a brave kid, this is not easy performing in front of strangers. A crowd formed supporting the cute little girl and the bluesman. They had no clue to the fierceness of her jagged asymmetry. She kept herself sideways, showing the world who she wanted to be, and they bought it. At the song's end she shot me a conspiratorial look. I sensed something gritty in those eyes. A steeliness forged by the fires of pediatric ward hell. I wondered about her mom and dad, who had spent the hours in the hospital making the painful decisions that lead to this. Oh bullshit, I have no idea. She ran off back to her dad. His look combined sincere thanks with you have no idea. Or maybe I just read all that in myself, it is so hard to tell sometimes. When our eyes met I forgot to breath for a moment. I saw people moving in with tips in slow motion. Someday I hope she finds a real stand up guy. A guy who will always take her left side, and wrapping his arm around her far shoulder, will press her close, feeling her arm halfway across his own back, and she will feel safe and brave, facing the world. Beautifully written . and she will ;) JohnY
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. The Ravi situation was strictly between Rick and Ravi. I did not get a subscription request; all I got was a notice that he was now a subscriber, which means Rick sent him an invite. I had no knowledge or involvement. WRT Dan, he subscribed and posted a string of profanity filled posts, and Rick told me to nuke him. When I received an attempted post by the then unsubscribed Dan, I wrote back to him with this: After that string of profanity filled posts the other day, Rick told me to boot you off FFL. You are no longer subscribed, and anything you try to post will not go through. After that, it was between Dan and Rick. I have no ability to read minds but perhaps Rick thought these guys deserve a second chance, no-one is beyond redemption I think. We all hope there is such a thing as personal evolution after all I actually like the variety, the occasional card-carrying nutjob livens the place up, for a while. Best thing to do is ignore them and hope they leave to get the attention they crave elsewhere, but I'm as guilty as the next guy at giving in to the temptation to commnt even if my remarks are only of the shaking-the-head- in-astonishment type. But if nothing else it's a good thing to remember that spiritual evolution can go backwards, the trick is in realising that has happened and trying something else.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. The Ravi situation was strictly between Rick and Ravi. I did not get a subscription request; all I got was a notice that he was now a subscriber, which means Rick sent him an invite. I had no knowledge or involvement. WRT Dan, he subscribed and posted a string of profanity filled posts, and Rick told me to nuke him. When I received an attempted post by the then unsubscribed Dan, I wrote back to him with this: After that string of profanity filled posts the other day, Rick told me to boot you off FFL. You are no longer subscribed, and anything you try to post will not go through. After that, it was between Dan and Rick. I have no ability to read minds but perhaps Rick thought these guys deserve a second chance, no-one is beyond redemption I think. We all hope there is such a thing as personal evolution after all With all due respect to Rick, who in all likelihood really is a nice guy, I wouldn't trust his powers of discrimination any further than I could throw him. With regard to Ravi, when he first encountered him, who many people here on FFL instantly reacted to as being in the middle of some kind of nervous break- down, Rick considered him enlightened or awakened or self-realized enough to include in his BATGAP series of interviews. In the time since, Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. He certainly hasn't noticed that he's up to his old tricks with Curtis and others here. With regard to Dan, it is equally disturbing that in giving him a second chance after a drunken or insane profanity meltdown that even *Judy* felt indicated that he was having a nervous breakdown, Rick allowed him to come back and then left him on his own remarkably like the Dean of MUM who left Suvender Sem on his own. As a result, Dan was able to make threats against several *more* people here. I, for one, am not impressed with Rick Archer's care and feeding of the forum he created. As I've said before, I think he's asleep at the wheel.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: Snip I hope this makes some sense, and can help Curtis, because I feel that you are a good soul, and putting yourself through stuff that is unnecessary. Whatever you feel about this word 'Maharishi' and all the feelings it brings up for you, if you can see the attachment to this word, within yourself, you will be a lot clearer about the whole thing. I'm not too sure what you might be referring to. My piece was about what happens to people with too much adulation. I enjoyed writing it. As far as my feelings about the word Maharishi, I don't have any. What I was writing about was a real guy, he was my boss for my first important job. I am quite fond of the guy but he could be a real douche too and my writing usually reflects both sides of him with a definite bias toward the douchy side because that is my perspective on him now as a more mature adult. Turq's point as I understand was that people didn't need to attack me personally because I spoke about Maharishi from my own perspective. But that is FFL and I know that before I hit send. Their view of the guy is none of my business unless they would like to share it. (If they do decide to share it I would highly recommend the technique of referring at least to a treesome, or if they want to follow my lead, a foursome, because that can really spice otherwise lackluster writing up. Try it and see!) Now as far as saying I am a good soul, and I hope I am not being too needy here, could you amp up the compliment a tad? I mean only guys like Hitler get called a bad soul because the soul by its very nature is good right? I mean the whole concept is that this is the part of us that is eternal and godlike so aren't you really saying that the only part of me that is any good is the part of me I have no control over? And this particularly stings because I was really fishing for a compliment on how I have been doing my hair lately. You see I have taken the lead from that hunky guy on the mentalist (I don't know his name because I am walking a pretty fine gay line here as it is) and have grown my hair out. This lets me use old school hair products like Groom and Clean and the American Crew Pomade they use on Madmen. Anywhoo the sides of my hair are kind of feathery like his and I'm really feeling kind of good about the whole thing, but all I get are these lukewarm compliments on my soul! So I a may be enlightened about Maharishi with the attachment thing a little but I am kind of attached to my new hair style. But in my defense the style itself is an imitation of a carefree push your hair back with your hands style so popular in noir movies (or anything with Christian Slater in it if you are not an TCM channel addict like I am). So if you do sincerely want to help me is it really too much to ask for a mention of what a great hair day I'm having? (Not trying to load the deck or anything but it might interest you to know that half way through my day a curl escapes in the front of my hair and creeps down my forehead in a way reminiscent of that period of Elvis's life between his young hot stage and before he looked like he ate himself. This curl is in no way affected or deliberate and happens magically by itself in a most satisfying I am not so vain that I did this on purpose manor.) And no it doesn't look like that Michal Jackson front curl either and I'm just a little surprised you would bring that up. I only stopped wearing my black grief glove last week and it is a little too soon for Michal Jackson references. His front curl had many curls in it like Dianna Ross and is not the most masculine thing in the world if you catch my drift...Oh, you didn't (coughspoofter). Did that help? No I wasn't coughing I was giving you a ...oh neverland, I mean never mind! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: The fascinating thing from my point of view, Curtis, is that Nabby (and possibly a few others here) go ballistic and react as if you had attacked *them* because you were less than guru- whipped and treated Maharishi just like any other person. Their level of identification with and attachment to *him* is so great that they really can't tell the difference any more between someone criticizing him and someone criticizing them. Let alone the difference between criticism and attack. (snip) So, herein lies the answer; you couldn't have stated it more clearly... Before one is enlightened, there is this thing called 'Indentification'... It's the small self, the ego, identifying with something, to which it has become attached. Like you are saying, it has little to do with the focus of the attachment, but more to do with attachment itself... This is one thing that The Maharishi left out of the teaching; that is how to get out of this thing called attachment... In a way
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. The Ravi situation was strictly between Rick and Ravi. I did not get a subscription request; all I got was a notice that he was now a subscriber, which means Rick sent him an invite. I had no knowledge or involvement. WRT Dan, he subscribed and posted a string of profanity filled posts, and Rick told me to nuke him. When I received an attempted post by the then unsubscribed Dan, I wrote back to him with this: After that string of profanity filled posts the other day, Rick told me to boot you off FFL. You are no longer subscribed, and anything you try to post will not go through. After that, it was between Dan and Rick. I have no ability to read minds but perhaps Rick thought these guys deserve a second chance, no-one is beyond redemption I think. We all hope there is such a thing as personal evolution after all With all due respect to Rick, who in all likelihood really is a nice guy, I wouldn't trust his powers of discrimination any further than I could throw him. With regard to Ravi, when he first encountered him, who many people here on FFL instantly reacted to as being in the middle of some kind of nervous break- down, Rick considered him enlightened or awakened or self-realized enough to include in his BATGAP series of interviews. In the time since, Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. He certainly hasn't noticed that he's up to his old tricks with Curtis and others here. Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. With regard to Dan, it is equally disturbing that in giving him a second chance after a drunken or insane profanity meltdown that even *Judy* felt indicated that he was having a nervous breakdown, Rick allowed him to come back and then left him on his own remarkably like the Dean of MUM who left Suvender Sem on his own. As a result, Dan was able to make threats against several *more* people here. I, for one, am not impressed with Rick Archer's care and feeding of the forum he created. As I've said before, I think he's asleep at the wheel.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. You obviously feel otherwise, and that praising an unstable person when he acts out is a favor.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. The Ravi situation was strictly between Rick and Ravi. I did not get a subscription request; all I got was a notice that he was now a subscriber, which means Rick sent him an invite. I had no knowledge or involvement. WRT Dan, he subscribed and posted a string of profanity filled posts, and Rick told me to nuke him. When I received an attempted post by the then unsubscribed Dan, I wrote back to him with this: After that string of profanity filled posts the other day, Rick told me to boot you off FFL. You are no longer subscribed, and anything you try to post will not go through. After that, it was between Dan and Rick. I have no ability to read minds but perhaps Rick thought these guys deserve a second chance, no-one is beyond redemption I think. We all hope there is such a thing as personal evolution after all With all due respect to Rick, who in all likelihood really is a nice guy, I wouldn't trust his powers of discrimination any further than I could throw him. With regard to Ravi, when he first encountered him, who many people here on FFL instantly reacted to as being in the middle of some kind of nervous break- down, Rick considered him enlightened or awakened or self-realized enough to include in his BATGAP series of interviews. In the time since, Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. He certainly hasn't noticed that he's up to his old tricks with Curtis and others here. Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. I disagree. Ravi mentioned it. If you post something here, you are sharing it with everyone and inviting a response, hostile or otherwise. With regard to Dan, it is equally disturbing that in giving him a second chance after a drunken or insane profanity meltdown that even *Judy* felt indicated that he was having a nervous breakdown, Rick allowed him to come back and then left him on his own remarkably like the Dean of MUM who left Suvender Sem on his own. As a result, Dan was able to make threats against several *more* people here. I, for one, am not impressed with Rick Archer's care and feeding of the forum he created. As I've said before, I think he's asleep at the wheel.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
King Baby Barry, You emotionally stunted, demented, deranged, depraved, needy, drama queenery, clueless, shameless, paranoid, delusional, narcissistic, misogynist, homophobic LIAR..LOL Remember all this chin-envy and envy of the biggest d**k in town is cracking me up. How dare you use my name directly? :-) All you have is slander and lies. Needy, whiny, drama queen ish antics. I thought you and Curtis were the tough, macho, white, mid-western ole boys club - bullying, taunting women, gays? Being goaded, insulted and humiliated as I expose, parade your deception every day publicly must be taking it's toll. But I didn't call you needy and shameless for nothing right? Slander and lie with gusto - I don't think anything else helps against me..LOL On Sep 4, 2012, at 6:28 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. The Ravi situation was strictly between Rick and Ravi. I did not get a subscription request; all I got was a notice that he was now a subscriber, which means Rick sent him an invite. I had no knowledge or involvement. WRT Dan, he subscribed and posted a string of profanity filled posts, and Rick told me to nuke him. When I received an attempted post by the then unsubscribed Dan, I wrote back to him with this: After that string of profanity filled posts the other day, Rick told me to boot you off FFL. You are no longer subscribed, and anything you try to post will not go through. After that, it was between Dan and Rick. I have no ability to read minds but perhaps Rick thought these guys deserve a second chance, no-one is beyond redemption I think. We all hope there is such a thing as personal evolution after all With all due respect to Rick, who in all likelihood really is a nice guy, I wouldn't trust his powers of discrimination any further than I could throw him. With regard to Ravi, when he first encountered him, who many people here on FFL instantly reacted to as being in the middle of some kind of nervous break- down, Rick considered him enlightened or awakened or self-realized enough to include in his BATGAP series of interviews. In the time since, Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. He certainly hasn't noticed that he's up to his old tricks with Curtis and others here. With regard to Dan, it is equally disturbing that in giving him a second chance after a drunken or insane profanity meltdown that even *Judy* felt indicated that he was having a nervous breakdown, Rick allowed him to come back and then left him on his own remarkably like the Dean of MUM who left Suvender Sem on his own. As a result, Dan was able to make threats against several *more* people here. I, for one, am not impressed with Rick Archer's care and feeding of the forum he created. As I've said before, I think he's asleep at the wheel.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:20 AM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. The Ravi situation was strictly between Rick and Ravi. I did not get a subscription request; all I got was a notice that he was now a subscriber, which means Rick sent him an invite. I had no knowledge or involvement. WRT Dan, he subscribed and posted a string of profanity filled posts, and Rick told me to nuke him. When I received an attempted post by the then unsubscribed Dan, I wrote back to him with this: After that string of profanity filled posts the other day, Rick told me to boot you off FFL. You are no longer subscribed, and anything you try to post will not go through. After that, it was between Dan and Rick. I have no ability to read minds but perhaps Rick thought these guys deserve a second chance, no-one is beyond redemption I think. We all hope there is such a thing as personal evolution after all With all due respect to Rick, who in all likelihood really is a nice guy, I wouldn't trust his powers of discrimination any further than I could throw him. With regard to Ravi, when he first encountered him, who many people here on FFL instantly reacted to as being in the middle of some kind of nervous break- down, Rick considered him enlightened or awakened or self-realized enough to include in his BATGAP series of interviews. In the time since, Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. He certainly hasn't noticed that he's up to his old tricks with Curtis and others here. Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. I disagree. Ravi mentioned it. If you post something here, you are sharing it with everyone and inviting a response, hostile or otherwise. Feste - is everything going OK with you? Or are you catching on to the chin-envy and envy of the big d**k virus that's going on around here? I will mention my personal details, that's my choice. If I had used by personal details to attack Barry and Curtis, then it makes sense for them to use it back against me, but the personal details are part of my other stories, part of my bigger journey and so they have to naturally creep up because it's all tied together but I haven't given the entire facts here. So that doesn't give anyone a right to use it to hit someone low - especially when Barry so brazenly, outrageously lies about it. Barry and Curtis cannot objectively attack anything I say about them so they resort to slander, deception, distorting, and lying. Enthralling, enticing and entertaining morons like you. So Feste - you don't understand any of this - you show up here and are talking with with your foot, ass, god knows what in your mouth and so STFU - because what you say is not cool and doesn't make any rational, logical sense - makes you look like a big idiot. With this message - you have lost any respect I had for you for as an intelligent, objective person. Love, Ravi With regard to Dan, it is equally disturbing that in giving him a second chance after a drunken or insane profanity meltdown that even *Judy* felt indicated that he was having a nervous breakdown, Rick allowed him to come back and then left him on his own remarkably like the Dean of MUM who left Suvender Sem on his own. As a result, Dan was able to make threats against several *more* people here. I, for one, am not impressed with Rick Archer's care and feeding of the forum he created. As I've said before, I think he's asleep at the wheel.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I thought you and Curtis were the tough, macho, white, mid-western ole boys club - bullying, taunting women, gays? Sorry to see you are falling back into your old habits. I object to this slanderous mischaracterization of my relationship with both women and my gay friends. This person does not know me personally and is an internet troll whose past posts where so egregious he was banned from participating on this forum. If you have come across this in a search of my name please understand that I am dealing with a difficult situation here and there will always be trolls like this on any open internet forum who can maliciously post one more slanderous post than I can refute. Not only am I not a bully, I professionally perform anti-bullying shows to help the efforts in schools to combat this problem. I am pro gay rights in all aspects of their equal lives including their right to marry and am appalled that women continue to be limited by their history of oppression in the workplace as well as in their treatment under many state's divorce laws. King Baby Barry, You emotionally stunted, demented, deranged, depraved, needy, drama queenery, clueless, shameless, paranoid, delusional, narcissistic, misogynist, homophobic LIAR..LOL Remember all this chin-envy and envy of the biggest d**k in town is cracking me up. How dare you use my name directly? :-) All you have is slander and lies. Needy, whiny, drama queen ish antics. I thought you and Curtis were the tough, macho, white, mid-western ole boys club - bullying, taunting women, gays? Being goaded, insulted and humiliated as I expose, parade your deception every day publicly must be taking it's toll. But I didn't call you needy and shameless for nothing right? Slander and lie with gusto - I don't think anything else helps against me..LOL On Sep 4, 2012, at 6:28 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. The Ravi situation was strictly between Rick and Ravi. I did not get a subscription request; all I got was a notice that he was now a subscriber, which means Rick sent him an invite. I had no knowledge or involvement. WRT Dan, he subscribed and posted a string of profanity filled posts, and Rick told me to nuke him. When I received an attempted post by the then unsubscribed Dan, I wrote back to him with this: After that string of profanity filled posts the other day, Rick told me to boot you off FFL. You are no longer subscribed, and anything you try to post will not go through. After that, it was between Dan and Rick. I have no ability to read minds but perhaps Rick thought these guys deserve a second chance, no-one is beyond redemption I think. We all hope there is such a thing as personal evolution after all With all due respect to Rick, who in all likelihood really is a nice guy, I wouldn't trust his powers of discrimination any further than I could throw him. With regard to Ravi, when he first encountered him, who many people here on FFL instantly reacted to as being in the middle of some kind of nervous break- down, Rick considered him enlightened or awakened or self-realized enough to include in his BATGAP series of interviews. In the time since, Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. He certainly hasn't noticed that he's up to his old tricks with Curtis and others here. With regard to Dan, it is equally disturbing that in giving him a second chance after a drunken or insane profanity meltdown that even *Judy* felt indicated that he was having a nervous breakdown, Rick allowed him to come back and then left him on his own remarkably like the Dean of MUM who left Suvender Sem on his own. As a result, Dan was able to make threats against several *more* people here. I, for one, am not impressed with Rick Archer's care and feeding of the forum he created. As I've said before, I think he's asleep at the wheel.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Take this deception, distortion, lying, manipulation, twisting elsewhere Curtis. Don't parade your white man's burden, guilt wrapped around in a nice set of beliefs as a proof of anything, you cry wolf one too many times to come across as a honest, genuine person. Like I said your sickening, disgusting, pitiful tactics will impress most of the naive, gullible, liberals fooled, charmed, tricked, enticed, enthralled, entertained by your stories. You can't resort to any objective response of my earlier messages. You will try to manipulate the audience, manipulate Rick, you are a sick and twisted person. Of course demented, deranged and depraved are the other adjectives I have used as well..:-) On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:16 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I thought you and Curtis were the tough, macho, white, mid-western ole boys club - bullying, taunting women, gays? Sorry to see you are falling back into your old habits. I object to this slanderous mischaracterization of my relationship with both women and my gay friends. This person does not know me personally and is an internet troll whose past posts where so egregious he was banned from participating on this forum. If you have come across this in a search of my name please understand that I am dealing with a difficult situation here and there will always be trolls like this on any open internet forum who can maliciously post one more slanderous post than I can refute. Not only am I not a bully, I professionally perform anti-bullying shows to help the efforts in schools to combat this problem. I am pro gay rights in all aspects of their equal lives including their right to marry and am appalled that women continue to be limited by their history of oppression in the workplace as well as in their treatment under many state's divorce laws. King Baby Barry, You emotionally stunted, demented, deranged, depraved, needy, drama queenery, clueless, shameless, paranoid, delusional, narcissistic, misogynist, homophobic LIAR..LOL Remember all this chin-envy and envy of the biggest d**k in town is cracking me up. How dare you use my name directly? :-) All you have is slander and lies. Needy, whiny, drama queen ish antics. I thought you and Curtis were the tough, macho, white, mid-western ole boys club - bullying, taunting women, gays? Being goaded, insulted and humiliated as I expose, parade your deception every day publicly must be taking it's toll. But I didn't call you needy and shameless for nothing right? Slander and lie with gusto - I don't think anything else helps against me..LOL On Sep 4, 2012, at 6:28 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. The Ravi situation was strictly between Rick and Ravi. I did not get a subscription request; all I got was a notice that he was now a subscriber, which means Rick sent him an invite. I had no knowledge or involvement. WRT Dan, he subscribed and posted a string of profanity filled posts, and Rick told me to nuke him. When I received an attempted post by the then unsubscribed Dan, I wrote back to him with this: After that string of profanity filled posts the other day, Rick told me to boot you off FFL. You are no longer subscribed, and anything you try to post will not go through. After that, it was between Dan and Rick. I have no ability to read minds but perhaps Rick thought these guys deserve a second chance, no-one is beyond redemption I think. We all hope there is such a thing as personal evolution after all With all due respect to Rick, who in all likelihood really is a nice guy, I wouldn't trust his powers of discrimination any further than I could throw him. With regard to Ravi, when he first encountered him, who many people here on FFL instantly reacted to as being in the middle of some kind of nervous break- down, Rick considered him enlightened or awakened or self-realized enough to include in his BATGAP series of interviews. In the time since, Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. He certainly hasn't noticed that he's up to his old tricks with Curtis and others here. With regard to Dan, it is equally
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Being goaded, insulted and humiliated as I expose, parade your deception every day publicly must be taking it's toll Somehow I doubt it, but there is a similarity in your insults to everyone, one could hardly call them targeted. I suspect a bit of the old loathing in others what you fear in yourself? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: King Baby Barry, You emotionally stunted, demented, deranged, depraved, needy, drama queenery, clueless, shameless, paranoid, delusional, narcissistic, misogynist, homophobic LIAR..LOL Remember all this chin-envy and envy of the biggest d**k in town is cracking me up. How dare you use my name directly? :-) All you have is slander and lies. Needy, whiny, drama queen ish antics. I thought you and Curtis were the tough, macho, white, mid-western ole boys club - bullying, taunting women, gays? Being goaded, insulted and humiliated as I expose, parade your deception every day publicly must be taking it's toll. But I didn't call you needy and shameless for nothing right? Slander and lie with gusto - I don't think anything else helps against me..LOL On Sep 4, 2012, at 6:28 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. The Ravi situation was strictly between Rick and Ravi. I did not get a subscription request; all I got was a notice that he was now a subscriber, which means Rick sent him an invite. I had no knowledge or involvement. WRT Dan, he subscribed and posted a string of profanity filled posts, and Rick told me to nuke him. When I received an attempted post by the then unsubscribed Dan, I wrote back to him with this: After that string of profanity filled posts the other day, Rick told me to boot you off FFL. You are no longer subscribed, and anything you try to post will not go through. After that, it was between Dan and Rick. I have no ability to read minds but perhaps Rick thought these guys deserve a second chance, no-one is beyond redemption I think. We all hope there is such a thing as personal evolution after all With all due respect to Rick, who in all likelihood really is a nice guy, I wouldn't trust his powers of discrimination any further than I could throw him. With regard to Ravi, when he first encountered him, who many people here on FFL instantly reacted to as being in the middle of some kind of nervous break- down, Rick considered him enlightened or awakened or self-realized enough to include in his BATGAP series of interviews. In the time since, Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. He certainly hasn't noticed that he's up to his old tricks with Curtis and others here. With regard to Dan, it is equally disturbing that in giving him a second chance after a drunken or insane profanity meltdown that even *Judy* felt indicated that he was having a nervous breakdown, Rick allowed him to come back and then left him on his own remarkably like the Dean of MUM who left Suvender Sem on his own. As a result, Dan was able to make threats against several *more* people here. I, for one, am not impressed with Rick Archer's care and feeding of the forum he created. As I've said before, I think he's asleep at the wheel.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
I would have complimented you on your hair, but since I can't see you that would have been difficult... I really liked the piece you wrote about the autistic boy... I used to work with autisic people and they really touched my heart as I was reading in your piece that your heart had been touched also... That is what I meant by good soul...that you had a heart... I do remember the times I spent with the Maharishi he seemed to have a big and open heart... But, with many of the meditators I meet there seemes to be a space where a heart should be... I hope I've made your day, dear Curtis! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Snip I hope this makes some sense, and can help Curtis, because I feel that you are a good soul, and putting yourself through stuff that is unnecessary. Whatever you feel about this word 'Maharishi' and all the feelings it brings up for you, if you can see the attachment to this word, within yourself, you will be a lot clearer about the whole thing. I'm not too sure what you might be referring to. My piece was about what happens to people with too much adulation. I enjoyed writing it. As far as my feelings about the word Maharishi, I don't have any. What I was writing about was a real guy, he was my boss for my first important job. I am quite fond of the guy but he could be a real douche too and my writing usually reflects both sides of him with a definite bias toward the douchy side because that is my perspective on him now as a more mature adult. Turq's point as I understand was that people didn't need to attack me personally because I spoke about Maharishi from my own perspective. But that is FFL and I know that before I hit send. Their view of the guy is none of my business unless they would like to share it. (If they do decide to share it I would highly recommend the technique of referring at least to a treesome, or if they want to follow my lead, a foursome, because that can really spice otherwise lackluster writing up. Try it and see!) Now as far as saying I am a good soul, and I hope I am not being too needy here, could you amp up the compliment a tad? I mean only guys like Hitler get called a bad soul because the soul by its very nature is good right? I mean the whole concept is that this is the part of us that is eternal and godlike so aren't you really saying that the only part of me that is any good is the part of me I have no control over? And this particularly stings because I was really fishing for a compliment on how I have been doing my hair lately. You see I have taken the lead from that hunky guy on the mentalist (I don't know his name because I am walking a pretty fine gay line here as it is) and have grown my hair out. This lets me use old school hair products like Groom and Clean and the American Crew Pomade they use on Madmen. Anywhoo the sides of my hair are kind of feathery like his and I'm really feeling kind of good about the whole thing, but all I get are these lukewarm compliments on my soul! So I a may be enlightened about Maharishi with the attachment thing a little but I am kind of attached to my new hair style. But in my defense the style itself is an imitation of a carefree push your hair back with your hands style so popular in noir movies (or anything with Christian Slater in it if you are not an TCM channel addict like I am). So if you do sincerely want to help me is it really too much to ask for a mention of what a great hair day I'm having? (Not trying to load the deck or anything but it might interest you to know that half way through my day a curl escapes in the front of my hair and creeps down my forehead in a way reminiscent of that period of Elvis's life between his young hot stage and before he looked like he ate himself. This curl is in no way affected or deliberate and happens magically by itself in a most satisfying I am not so vain that I did this on purpose manor.) And no it doesn't look like that Michal Jackson front curl either and I'm just a little surprised you would bring that up. I only stopped wearing my black grief glove last week and it is a little too soon for Michal Jackson references. His front curl had many curls in it like Dianna Ross and is not the most masculine thing in the world if you catch my drift...Oh, you didn't (coughspoofter). Did that help? No I wasn't coughing I was giving you a ...oh neverland, I mean never mind! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: The fascinating thing from my point of view, Curtis, is that Nabby (and possibly a few others here) go ballistic and react as if you had attacked *them* because you were less than guru- whipped and treated Maharishi just like any other person.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: I would have complimented you on your hair, but since I can't see you that would have been difficult... I really liked the piece you wrote about the autistic boy... I used to work with autisic people and they really touched my heart as I was reading in your piece that your heart had been touched also... That is what I meant by good soul...that you had a heart... I do remember the times I spent with the Maharishi he seemed to have a big and open heart... But, with many of the meditators I meet there seemes to be a space where a heart should be... I hope I've made your day, dear Curtis! I can't imagine working day in and day out with people this challenged. I think you are the biggest heart in this exchange. I do some shows for special needs kids. They are always my most emotionally moving. But they also put me in contact with the kind of people who work there day in and day out and they are made of much stouter stuff than I am. Thanks for the nice response and I'll accept your intention to compliment my hair if you had seen it, but I hope you will take my work for its fabulousness...oh wait...I seem to be afflicted with some hat hair from my spitfire cap. Damn you hat hair! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Snip I hope this makes some sense, and can help Curtis, because I feel that you are a good soul, and putting yourself through stuff that is unnecessary. Whatever you feel about this word 'Maharishi' and all the feelings it brings up for you, if you can see the attachment to this word, within yourself, you will be a lot clearer about the whole thing. I'm not too sure what you might be referring to. My piece was about what happens to people with too much adulation. I enjoyed writing it. As far as my feelings about the word Maharishi, I don't have any. What I was writing about was a real guy, he was my boss for my first important job. I am quite fond of the guy but he could be a real douche too and my writing usually reflects both sides of him with a definite bias toward the douchy side because that is my perspective on him now as a more mature adult. Turq's point as I understand was that people didn't need to attack me personally because I spoke about Maharishi from my own perspective. But that is FFL and I know that before I hit send. Their view of the guy is none of my business unless they would like to share it. (If they do decide to share it I would highly recommend the technique of referring at least to a treesome, or if they want to follow my lead, a foursome, because that can really spice otherwise lackluster writing up. Try it and see!) Now as far as saying I am a good soul, and I hope I am not being too needy here, could you amp up the compliment a tad? I mean only guys like Hitler get called a bad soul because the soul by its very nature is good right? I mean the whole concept is that this is the part of us that is eternal and godlike so aren't you really saying that the only part of me that is any good is the part of me I have no control over? And this particularly stings because I was really fishing for a compliment on how I have been doing my hair lately. You see I have taken the lead from that hunky guy on the mentalist (I don't know his name because I am walking a pretty fine gay line here as it is) and have grown my hair out. This lets me use old school hair products like Groom and Clean and the American Crew Pomade they use on Madmen. Anywhoo the sides of my hair are kind of feathery like his and I'm really feeling kind of good about the whole thing, but all I get are these lukewarm compliments on my soul! So I a may be enlightened about Maharishi with the attachment thing a little but I am kind of attached to my new hair style. But in my defense the style itself is an imitation of a carefree push your hair back with your hands style so popular in noir movies (or anything with Christian Slater in it if you are not an TCM channel addict like I am). So if you do sincerely want to help me is it really too much to ask for a mention of what a great hair day I'm having? (Not trying to load the deck or anything but it might interest you to know that half way through my day a curl escapes in the front of my hair and creeps down my forehead in a way reminiscent of that period of Elvis's life between his young hot stage and before he looked like he ate himself. This curl is in no way affected or deliberate and happens magically by itself in a most satisfying I am not so vain that I did this on purpose manor.) And no it doesn't look like that Michal Jackson front curl either and I'm just a little
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:30 AM, salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.comwrote: ** Being goaded, insulted and humiliated as I expose, parade your deception every day publicly must be taking it's toll Somehow I doubt it, but there is a similarity in your insults to everyone, one could hardly call them targeted. I suspect a bit of the old loathing in others what you fear in yourself? Dear salyavin - yes brilliant analysis - no chin-envy here then right?..:-). I will go hide now - I mean gotta go to work now. Love ya - Ravi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Let's consider some facts for a change. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Actually, here's what Ravi said: My ex taunted me at the courthouse as she walked away with everything, the kids - the complete physical, legal custody with no visitation, even her lawyer privately apologized to me. And here's what Barry said: Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. IOW, Ravi did not tell us what Barry claims he told us. Barry does not know why the court decided what it did. (Oh, and notice Barry's multiplication tactic: courts rather than court. Sounds so much more definitive if more than one court had decided the same thing, doesn't it?) Let's get real here. It's not as if nobody had ever succeeded in convincing a court that a former spouse was Bad News for the kids purely out of spite. It's a very effective way of getting back at the former spouse for whatever had gone wrong in the marriage. (And while fathers occasionally manage to wangle a no-visitation decision from a divorce court, traditionally courts tend to favor the mother in such cases.) From what Ravi has told us about his interactions with his ex-wife's attorney, it appears the attorney may have had her doubts about the justice of the court's decision for her client (also see the quote below from a later post of Ravi's). Finally, all this happened years ago. Rick had no basis *whatsoever* for taking it into consideration when he decided to allow Ravi to return to FFL. And for all we know, the legal situation may have changed in the interim. Is Ravi still forbidden to see his kids? We don't know. Maybe he'll tell us. Here's what Ravi went on to say about his wife's attorney in a subsequent post: Like I said I was being playful with her lawyer - Kelly, she was a bit older than me but good looking - drove my ex mad.. LOL..she was like, don't talk to my attorney - not realizing the stupidity and hilarity of her statement. Anyway her lawyer starts explaining how she is a nice, honest person, goes to bed every night peacefully (as in I'm just doing my job) and I'm like whatever and then she looks me in the eye and says - look Ravi, you are a really nice guy, I am still being playful and she repeats with emphasis - No, Ravi listen - you are a very nice guy and then I finally acknowledged and gave her one of my patented bows. I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. You obviously feel otherwise, and that praising an unstable person when he acts out is a favor. But Barry considers himself to have the training to know when someone is unstable--and rather obviously has a powerful inclination to repeat that conclusion over and over, as if it were established fact, in an attempt to anathematize those he has declared to be unstable and turn other posters against them. When considering whether Barry is being candid when he claims not to have a grudge against Ravi, FFL readers should perhaps bear in mind that Barry has pronounced his expert diagnosis of instability--or worse--virtually exclusively on his critics. Enough said.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Isn't it a bit ironic that Barry uses FFL to criticize Rick who started FFL?! As for Barry's reply to Raunchy: clearly she was not praising Ravi, as Barry accused. She was objecting to using the family topic to criticize Ravi. For all the reasons you mention, Judy, I think that objection was spot on. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret Let's consider some facts for a change. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Actually, here's what Ravi said: My ex taunted me at the courthouse as she walked away with everything, the kids - the complete physical, legal custody with no visitation, even her lawyer privately apologized to me. And here's what Barry said: Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. IOW, Ravi did not tell us what Barry claims he told us. Barry does not know why the court decided what it did. (Oh, and notice Barry's multiplication tactic: courts rather than court. Sounds so much more definitive if more than one court had decided the same thing, doesn't it?) Let's get real here. It's not as if nobody had ever succeeded in convincing a court that a former spouse was Bad News for the kids purely out of spite. It's a very effective way of getting back at the former spouse for whatever had gone wrong in the marriage. (And while fathers occasionally manage to wangle a no-visitation decision from a divorce court, traditionally courts tend to favor the mother in such cases.) From what Ravi has told us about his interactions with his ex-wife's attorney, it appears the attorney may have had her doubts about the justice of the court's decision for her client (also see the quote below from a later post of Ravi's). Finally, all this happened years ago. Rick had no basis *whatsoever* for taking it into consideration when he decided to allow Ravi to return to FFL. And for all we know, the legal situation may have changed in the interim. Is Ravi still forbidden to see his kids? We don't know. Maybe he'll tell us. Here's what Ravi went on to say about his wife's attorney in a subsequent post: Like I said I was being playful with her lawyer - Kelly, she was a bit older than me but good looking - drove my ex mad.. LOL..she was like, don't talk to my attorney - not realizing the stupidity and hilarity of her statement. Anyway her lawyer starts explaining how she is a nice, honest person, goes to bed every night peacefully (as in I'm just doing my job) and I'm like whatever and then she looks me in the eye and says - look Ravi, you are a really nice guy, I am still being playful and she repeats with emphasis - No, Ravi listen - you are a very nice guy and then I finally acknowledged and gave her one of my patented bows. I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. You obviously feel otherwise, and that praising an unstable person when he acts out is a favor. But Barry considers himself to have the training to know when someone is unstable--and rather obviously has a powerful inclination to repeat that conclusion over and over, as if it were established fact, in an attempt to anathematize those he has declared to be unstable and turn other posters against them. When considering whether Barry is being candid when he claims not to have a grudge against Ravi, FFL readers should perhaps bear in mind that Barry has pronounced his expert diagnosis of instability--or worse--virtually exclusively on his critics. Enough said.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Let's consider some facts for a change. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Actually, here's what Ravi said: My ex taunted me at the courthouse as she walked away with everything, the kids - the complete physical, legal custody with no visitation, even her lawyer privately apologized to me. And here's what Barry said: Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. IOW, Ravi did not tell us what Barry claims he told us. Barry does not know why the court decided what it did. (Oh, and notice Barry's multiplication tactic: courts rather than court. Sounds so much more definitive if more than one court had decided the same thing, doesn't it?) Let's get real here. It's not as if nobody had ever succeeded in convincing a court that a former spouse was Bad News for the kids purely out of spite. It's a very effective way of getting back at the former spouse for whatever had gone wrong in the marriage. (And while fathers occasionally manage to wangle a no-visitation decision from a divorce court, traditionally courts tend to favor the mother in such cases.) From what Ravi has told us about his interactions with his ex-wife's attorney, it appears the attorney may have had her doubts about the justice of the court's decision for her client (also see the quote below from a later post of Ravi's). Finally, all this happened years ago. Rick had no basis *whatsoever* for taking it into consideration when he decided to allow Ravi to return to FFL. And for all we know, the legal situation may have changed in the interim. Is Ravi still forbidden to see his kids? We don't know. Maybe he'll tell us. Here's what Ravi went on to say about his wife's attorney in a subsequent post: Like I said I was being playful with her lawyer - Kelly, she was a bit older than me but good looking - drove my ex mad.. LOL..she was like, don't talk to my attorney - not realizing the stupidity and hilarity of her statement. Anyway her lawyer starts explaining how she is a nice, honest person, goes to bed every night peacefully (as in I'm just doing my job) and I'm like whatever and then she looks me in the eye and says - look Ravi, you are a really nice guy, I am still being playful and she repeats with emphasis - No, Ravi listen - you are a very nice guy and then I finally acknowledged and gave her one of my patented bows. I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. You obviously feel otherwise, and that praising an unstable person when he acts out is a favor. But Barry considers himself to have the training to know when someone is unstable--and rather obviously has a powerful inclination to repeat that conclusion over and over, as if it were established fact, in an attempt to anathematize those he has declared to be unstable and turn other posters against them. When considering whether Barry is being candid when he claims not to have a grudge against Ravi, FFL readers should perhaps bear in mind that Barry has pronounced his expert diagnosis of instability--or worse--virtually exclusively on his critics. Enough said. Dear Authfriend, The proof of Barry Wright's insincerity's and malice is HE WILL NOT DEIGN TO ANSWER THIS. But the arguments you have made are serious and persuasive. At the very least, if Barry Wright is an honourable person, he will take responsibility for what he has said, since you are making an accusation here--in refuting his characterization of Ravi Chivukula--which he intellectually and morally is obliged to answer. Unless and until I witness an act of decency and honesty on the part of Barry Wright I will continue to regard him as a brutally invulnerable and cruel human being who has decided that his conscience is of not of any use to him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Isn't it a bit ironic that Barry uses FFL to criticize Rick who started FFL?! Well, he isn't the first to do so, and he won't be the last. I've done it myself on occasion. What *is* ironic is that Barry usually fawns all over Rick, especially for having created this forum as a place where everyone can feel free to say what they think. As for Barry's reply to Raunchy: clearly she was not praising Ravi, as Barry accused. She was objecting to using the family topic to criticize Ravi. Right, she wasn't praising him in that post, but from her other posts, she's obviously friendly toward him. That's what makes Barry crazy, that other people *like* Ravi. I actually tend to agree with Barry that whatever someone has said about their private lives on FFL is fair game for comment. (Preferably appreciative or compassionate comment, but we know there are some here from whom that cannot be expected.) What I think is utterly inexcusable is to *misrepresent* what the person has said and embroider and distort it with speculations presented as if they were established fact-- which is what Barry did.  For all the reasons you mention, Judy, I think that objection was spot on. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  Let's consider some facts for a change. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Actually, here's what Ravi said: My ex taunted me at the courthouse as she walked away with everything, the kids - the complete physical, legal custody with no visitation, even her lawyer privately apologized to me. And here's what Barry said: Rick doesn't seem to have considered, when allowing him to return, that even *courts* have decided that Ravi is too unstable to allow him access to or even visitation rights with his own children. IOW, Ravi did not tell us what Barry claims he told us. Barry does not know why the court decided what it did. (Oh, and notice Barry's multiplication tactic: courts rather than court. Sounds so much more definitive if more than one court had decided the same thing, doesn't it?) Let's get real here. It's not as if nobody had ever succeeded in convincing a court that a former spouse was Bad News for the kids purely out of spite. It's a very effective way of getting back at the former spouse for whatever had gone wrong in the marriage. (And while fathers occasionally manage to wangle a no-visitation decision from a divorce court, traditionally courts tend to favor the mother in such cases.) From what Ravi has told us about his interactions with his ex-wife's attorney, it appears the attorney may have had her doubts about the justice of the court's decision for her client (also see the quote below from a later post of Ravi's). Finally, all this happened years ago. Rick had no basis *whatsoever* for taking it into consideration when he decided to allow Ravi to return to FFL. And for all we know, the legal situation may have changed in the interim. Is Ravi still forbidden to see his kids? We don't know. Maybe he'll tell us. Here's what Ravi went on to say about his wife's attorney in a subsequent post: Like I said I was being playful with her lawyer - Kelly, she was a bit older than me but good looking - drove my ex mad.. LOL..she was like, don't talk to my attorney - not realizing the stupidity and hilarity of her statement. Anyway her lawyer starts explaining how she is a nice, honest person, goes to bed every night peacefully (as in I'm just doing my job) and I'm like whatever and then she looks me in the eye and says - look Ravi, you are a really nice guy, I am still being playful and she repeats with emphasis - No, Ravi listen - you are a very nice guy and then I finally acknowledged and gave her one of my patented bows. I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. You obviously feel otherwise, and that praising an unstable
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Raunchy, you might have missed this from months ago, but it is true. Ravi himself disclosed this and more. Many of us have been very careful to stay away and out of all of this, careful not to egg anyone on. I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. I totally agree, Barry. I wrote a post similar to this months ago. My feelings were and are that it is unkind to use people who are not well in chat rooms, to encourage them in any way. My reason was that this stuff stays around, and employers, attorneys, they all can see it. It can embarrass family, mortify the person themself when they well, and ruin lives, or at least compromise them. Not good to be in any way a part of that. You obviously feel otherwise, and that praising an unstable person when he acts out is a favor. Encouraging this type of behavior is not only not a favor, it is using them and a form of ridicule. Just my opinion, I know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
I just want to add here something quick - I'm not here to share my personal stories to titillate, woo some old farts here jaded, wearied, worn down by their failed spiritual journeys, sold into Maharishi's con, deception - as Nabby stated it so beautifully - it's in the fine print - what does the fine print say? Three words - responsibility, accountability and transparency(self-honesty). I'm not going to elaborate my personal stories for some factual accuracy, or to clarify the slander, lies spread by people with chin-envies and small penis complexes. I use my personal stories to add a certain context, to add detail, personal touch, feel to my stories. Because this is not some dry, intellectual, writing - no nedo-advaitic puny, pathetic platitudes that I'm indulging in nor is it the passable, presentable, platitudes that some Gurus deceiving and deluding themselves as divine mothers, avatars My writing is a love affair, regardless of who's reading or not, the audience I'm talking to is not alien, distant to me. As I write I feel lot of love, oneness with whom I'm communicating, writing in this case. I want my audience to feel the primary motivation of my writing - which is ultimately love. I'm not trying to deceive innocent, naive, gullible audience like Barry and Curtis do and then turn around and cry wolf, slander, lie, indulging in their shameless, clueless, whiny, drama queenery. I try to create a rich tapestry, a stunning mosaic to express my love, my journey, my thoughts, on my spiritual journey - this tapestry, mosaic with the beautiful set of English adjectives. I don't claim to be an omniscient, omnipotent, all-knowing person - just a simple, vulnerable, helpless, loving, created being at the mercy of this dynamic, organic, mysterious entity known as the existence, reality or God. All I have is my brutal-self honesty and integrity. Of course I also use my writing to create a complex, intricate, maze, den, web, context to GIS (Goad, insult and slay) my adversaries and cruelly expose their biases, fears, insecurities, anxieties, their deception. One can feel the love of my writing and reciprocate my love. But if you are GIS'd - you can preserve your self-dignity like many others or be shameless, clueless, manipulative, deceivers like Barry, Curtis. Either way I strongly believe I can't ultimately touch, taint or tarnish anyone's consciousness - the purity of their first person ontologies, their unique expression, manifestation within this organic, dynamic, mysterious entity. So feel my love or slander me. It makes no difference to me. Love, Ravi On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:16 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Isn't it a bit ironic that Barry uses FFL to criticize Rick who started FFL?! Well, he isn't the first to do so, and he won't be the last. I've done it myself on occasion. What *is* ironic is that Barry usually fawns all over Rick, especially for having created this forum as a place where everyone can feel free to say what they think. As for Barry's reply to Raunchy: clearly she was not praising Ravi, as Barry accused. She was objecting to using the family topic to criticize Ravi. Right, she wasn't praising him in that post, but from her other posts, she's obviously friendly toward him. That's what makes Barry crazy, that other people *like* Ravi. I actually tend to agree with Barry that whatever someone has said about their private lives on FFL is fair game for comment. (Preferably appreciative or compassionate comment, but we know there are some here from whom that cannot be expected.) What I think is utterly inexcusable is to *misrepresent* what the person has said and embroider and distort it with speculations presented as if they were established fact-- which is what Barry did.  For all the reasons you mention, Judy, I think that objection was spot on. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  Let's consider some facts for a change. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Actually, here's what Ravi said: My ex taunted me at the courthouse as she walked away with everything, the kids
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Either way I strongly believe I can't ultimately touch, taint or tarnish anyone's consciousness - the purity of their first person ontologies, their unique expression, manifestation within this organic, dynamic, mysterious entity. So feel my love or slander me. It makes no difference to me. Hey Ravi, I'm down with all this. In fact, I think you are doing a better job of staying in your lane so to speak. Well maybe that's not the best analogy, cause FFL is more like a game of crash cars. But I think you are making more of a concerted effort to avoid some of things that got you escorted off the stage in the past, and I hope you continue you to do so. I think your presence here adds a dimension we don't really get from anyone else. Of course I am only somewhat in your peripheral vision, and not one of your primary targets. On the other hand, you have become pretty much one dimensional in type of postings you make. Maybe you might want to try to mix it up a bit. But I gotta say, that in a one on one with Curtis, I think you're coming out on the short end of the stick. Is that the same as SPS?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Raunchy, you might have missed this from months ago, but it is true. Not from months ago, Susan. Barry's referring to posts Ravi made in the past couple of days. Ravi himself disclosed this and more. Many of us have been very careful to stay away and out of all of this, careful not to egg anyone on. Your admirable self-righteousness comes across as clear as a bell, Susan. I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. I totally agree, Barry. I wrote a post similar to this months ago. My feelings were and are that it is unkind to use people who are not well in chat rooms (Just for the record, FFL is not a chat room, it's a public forum.) to encourage them in any way. My reason was that this stuff stays around, and employers, attorneys, they all can see it. It can embarrass family, mortify the person themself when they well, and ruin lives, or at least compromise them. Not good to be in any way a part of that. Says Susan, quite deliberately making herself a part of that. Like Barry, she believes she is able to determine who is and who is not well, and she wants it known that she has judged Ravi to be definitely not well. So much for her reluctance to participate in ruining (or at least compromising) lives. So much for her concern about attorneys and family and employers. She wants them all to know of her conviction that Ravi is not well. You obviously feel otherwise, and that praising an unstable person when he acts out is a favor. Encouraging this type of behavior is not only not a favor, it is using them and a form of ridicule. Just my opinion, I know. Again, like Barry, Susan assumes her opinion is held by everyone on FFL. Those of us who like Ravi, according to Susan, all agree that he is not well and are just pretending to be friendly when in fact, in Susan's mind, we are really only using and ridiculing him. What terrible people we must be compared to Saintly Susan and Blameless Barry, who are doing their level best to infuriate this person they claim is not well and unstable, hoping to encourage even more extreme forms of the behavior they profess to deplore so they can intensify their public hand-wringing. Obviously they're seething over what Ravi has said about them and are intent on striking back. It fails to occur to them how their anger at him belies their pious declarations concerning his purportedly delicate state of his mental health. Why, they're just as pissed off at him as if he were as sane as they are! I guess compassion would dictate that one pity people who are so painfully devoid of self-knowledge. But I'm afraid I can't muster up those finer feelings. Their hypocrisy just makes me want to throw up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Raunchy, you might have missed this from months ago, but it is true. Not from months ago, Susan. Barry's referring to posts Ravi made in the past couple of days. Ravi himself disclosed this and more. Many of us have been very careful to stay away and out of all of this, careful not to egg anyone on. Your admirable self-righteousness comes across as clear as a bell, Susan. Oh Judy, I spoke the truth here, not self righteousness. I happen to think Ravi is probably pretty mazing person. But as you know, it was you in particular i was thinking of as not being a good friend to Ravi. I think you must know that. Maybe that is why this bothered you so? I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. I totally agree, Barry. I wrote a post similar to this months ago. My feelings were and are that it is unkind to use people who are not well in chat rooms (Just for the record, FFL is not a chat room, it's a public forum.) Thanks for that very significant correction. I am sure it misled everyone!! to encourage them in any way. My reason was that this stuff stays around, and employers, attorneys, they all can see it. It can embarrass family, mortify the person themself when they well, and ruin lives, or at least compromise them. Not good to be in any way a part of that. Says Susan, quite deliberately making herself a part of that. Like Barry, she believes she is able to determine who is and who is not well, and she wants it known that she has judged Ravi to be definitely not well. Wrong again, Judy. Ravi himself said he had some troubles, and I believed him. Nothing wrong in that, is there? So much for her reluctance to participate in ruining (or at least compromising) lives. So much for her concern about attorneys and family and employers. She wants them all to know of her conviction that Ravi is not well. You obviously feel otherwise, and that praising an unstable person when he acts out is a favor. Encouraging this type of behavior is not only not a favor, it is using them and a form of ridicule. Just my opinion, I know. Again, like Barry, Susan assumes her opinion is held by everyone on FFL. Those of us who like Ravi, according to Susan, all agree that he is not well and are just pretending to be friendly when in fact, in Susan's mind, we are really only using and ridiculing him. What terrible people we must be compared to Saintly Susan and Blameless Barry, who are doing their level best to infuriate this person they claim is not well and unstable, hoping to encourage even more extreme forms of the behavior they profess to deplore so they can intensify their public hand-wringing. Obviously they're seething over what Ravi has said about them and are intent on striking back. It fails to occur to them how their anger at him belies their pious declarations concerning his purportedly delicate state of his mental health. Why, they're just as pissed off at him as if he were as sane as they are! I guess compassion would dictate that one pity people who are so painfully devoid of self-knowledge. But I'm afraid I can't muster up those finer feelings. Their hypocrisy just makes me want to throw up. Go ahead.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Raunchy, you might have missed this from months ago, but it is true. Not from months ago, Susan. Barry's referring to posts Ravi made in the past couple of days. Ravi himself disclosed this and more. Many of us have been very careful to stay away and out of all of this, careful not to egg anyone on. Your admirable self-righteousness comes across as clear as a bell, Susan. Oh Judy, I spoke the truth here, not self righteousness. It's self-righteous whether you actually believe what you're saying or not. I happen to think Ravi is probably pretty mazing person. But as you know, it was you in particular i was thinking of as not being a good friend to Ravi. I think you must know that. Maybe that is why this bothered you so? If I had known that, I would have found it hilarious. You could hardly be any farther off-target. Very highly selective memory you've got there. Stick to metaphysical speculation, Susan. Your skills do not lie in the area of analyzing real live human beings. I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. I totally agree, Barry. I wrote a post similar to this months ago. My feelings were and are that it is unkind to use people who are not well in chat rooms (Just for the record, FFL is not a chat room, it's a public forum.) Thanks for that very significant correction. I am sure it misled everyone!! Yes, very significant. That's why I put it in parentheses and noted that it was just for the record. Susan, are you really bent on taking over the role of Stupid Sal? to encourage them in any way. My reason was that this stuff stays around, and employers, attorneys, they all can see it. It can embarrass family, mortify the person themself when they well, and ruin lives, or at least compromise them. Not good to be in any way a part of that. Says Susan, quite deliberately making herself a part of that. Like Barry, she believes she is able to determine who is and who is not well, and she wants it known that she has judged Ravi to be definitely not well. Wrong again, Judy. Ravi himself said he had some troubles, and I believed him. Nothing wrong in that, is there? *Had* some troubles, Susan. Oddly enough, you didn't go to the trouble in the post I was responding to to make it clear you believed he had now overcome those troubles, if that was in fact what you believe, as you seem to imply here. Certainly Barry doesn't think he has, but you failed to challenge him on that point. I totally agree, you wrote in response to the paragraph from his post I quoted above, which obviously referred to Ravi in the present. Sorry, Susan, but your attempt to make yourself appear less hypocritical is very far from convincing. So much for her reluctance to participate in ruining (or at least compromising) lives. So much for her concern about attorneys and family and employers. She wants them all to know of her conviction that Ravi is not well. You obviously feel otherwise, and that praising an unstable person when he acts out is a favor. Encouraging this type of behavior is not only not a favor, it is using them and a form of ridicule. Just my opinion, I know. Again, like Barry, Susan assumes her opinion is held by everyone on FFL. Those of us who like Ravi, according to Susan, all agree that he is not well and are just pretending to be friendly when in fact, in Susan's mind, we are really only using and ridiculing him. What terrible people we must be compared to Saintly Susan and Blameless Barry, who are doing their level best to infuriate this person they claim is not well and unstable, hoping to encourage even more extreme forms of the behavior they profess to deplore so they can intensify their public
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Ravi, just take good care of yourself, ok? Maybe get some good rest. Some healthy delicious food and beverage. Some fun exercise in sunshine and fresh air. Such common sense approaches can help a lot when the old world starts shaking us up. I realize you're a young, strong man, etc. Nonetheless, very wise to take good care of the body mind vehicle. If only to be an even better lover of all that is. Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret I just want to add here something quick - I'm not here to share my personal stories to titillate, woo some old farts here jaded, wearied, worn down by their failed spiritual journeys, sold into Maharishi's con, deception - as Nabby stated it so beautifully - it's in the fine print - what does the fine print say? Three words - responsibility, accountability and transparency(self-honesty). I'm not going to elaborate my personal stories for some factual accuracy, or to clarify the slander, lies spread by people with chin-envies and small penis complexes. I use my personal stories to add a certain context, to add detail, personal touch, feel to my stories. Because this is not some dry, intellectual, writing - no nedo-advaitic puny, pathetic platitudes that I'm indulging in nor is it the passable, presentable, platitudes that some Gurus deceiving and deluding themselves as divine mothers, avatars My writing is a love affair, regardless of who's reading or not, the audience I'm talking to is not alien, distant to me. As I write I feel lot of love, oneness with whom I'm communicating, writing in this case. I want my audience to feel the primary motivation of my writing - which is ultimately love. I'm not trying to deceive innocent, naive, gullible audience like Barry and Curtis do and then turn around and cry wolf, slander, lie, indulging in their shameless, clueless, whiny, drama queenery. I try to create a rich tapestry, a stunning mosaic to express my love, my journey, my thoughts, on my spiritual journey - this tapestry, mosaic with the beautiful set of English adjectives. I don't claim to be an omniscient, omnipotent, all-knowing person - just a simple, vulnerable, helpless, loving, created being at the mercy of this dynamic, organic, mysterious entity known as the existence, reality or God. All I have is my brutal-self honesty and integrity. Of course I also use my writing to create a complex, intricate, maze, den, web, context to GIS (Goad, insult and slay) my adversaries and cruelly expose their biases, fears, insecurities, anxieties, their deception. One can feel the love of my writing and reciprocate my love. But if you are GIS'd - you can preserve your self-dignity like many others or be shameless, clueless, manipulative, deceivers like Barry, Curtis. Either way I strongly believe I can't ultimately touch, taint or tarnish anyone's consciousness - the purity of their first person ontologies, their unique expression, manifestation within this organic, dynamic, mysterious entity. So feel my love or slander me. It makes no difference to me. Love, Ravi On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:16 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Isn't it a bit ironic that Barry uses FFL to criticize Rick who started FFL?! Well, he isn't the first to do so, and he won't be the last. I've done it myself on occasion. What *is* ironic is that Barry usually fawns all over Rick, especially for having created this forum as a place where everyone can feel free to say what they think. As for Barry's reply to Raunchy: clearly she was not praising Ravi, as Barry accused. She was objecting to using the family topic to criticize Ravi. Right, she wasn't praising him in that post, but from her other posts, she's obviously friendly toward him. That's what makes Barry crazy, that other people *like* Ravi. I actually tend to agree with Barry that whatever someone has said about their private lives on FFL is fair game for comment. (Preferably appreciative or compassionate comment, but we know there are some here from whom that cannot be expected.) What I think is utterly inexcusable is to *misrepresent* what the person has said and embroider and distort it with speculations presented as if they were established fact-- which is what Barry did.  For all the reasons you mention, Judy, I think that objection was spot on. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  Let's consider some facts for a change. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Raunchy, you might have missed this from months ago, but it is true. Not from months ago, Susan. Barry's referring to posts Ravi made in the past couple of days. Ravi himself disclosed this and more. Many of us have been very careful to stay away and out of all of this, careful not to egg anyone on. Your admirable self-righteousness comes across as clear as a bell, Susan. Oh Judy, I spoke the truth here, not self righteousness. It's self-righteous whether you actually believe what you're saying or not. I meant what I wrote because it is true for me and for others, and if you found it self righteous, so be it. Since you brought up being self righteous -based on what I have seen, you do a great deal of Correcting of people you do not approve of - whether it is a choice of a word, knowledge of a long forgotten post, parsing an irrelevant point while missing the gist of what someone says, fussing over details, or just stating they are wrong because they don't agree with you and your take on things. You seem to do this mostly to those people who don't agree with you or who appear to like people that you don't. Since this is not a courtroom, a paid editing job, or a legal brief, it comes across to those you have corrected as - well, maybe self righteous. Now, behind all that it is obvious to everyone that you have great deal to offer - you are so smart, cultured, have great ideas, have a phenomenal memory. And you are a devoted friend to those you like. And they love you. It is just hard to appreciate that when a person has been Corrected and recorrected by you, because, correcting is different than an exchange of ideas or a discussion. I happen to think Ravi is probably pretty mazing person. But as you know, it was you in particular i was thinking of as not being a good friend to Ravi. I think you must know that. Maybe that is why this bothered you so? If I had known that, I would have found it hilarious. You could hardly be any farther off-target. Very highly selective memory you've got there. Stick to metaphysical speculation, Susan. Your skills do not lie in the area of analyzing real live human beings. Um, actually my skills lie very much in that area. I could have said the same to you, but I don't feel my opinions are facts. I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. I totally agree, Barry. I wrote a post similar to this months ago. My feelings were and are that it is unkind to use people who are not well in chat rooms (Just for the record, FFL is not a chat room, it's a public forum.) Thanks for that very significant correction. I am sure it misled everyone!! Yes, very significant. That's why I put it in parentheses and noted that it was just for the record. Susan, are you really bent on taking over the role of Stupid Sal? Why not leave your Just for the Record comments out since it served no purpose to anyone but your own need to correct? And what does Sal have to do with this conversation? I did not read the interactions you had with her. Why are you trying to muddy the conversation and add an insult? to encourage them in any way. My reason was that this stuff stays around, and employers, attorneys, they all can see it. It can embarrass family, mortify the person themself when they well, and ruin lives, or at least compromise them. Not good to be in any way a part of that. Says Susan, quite deliberately making herself a part of that. Like Barry, she believes she is able to determine who is and who is not well, and she wants it known that she has judged Ravi to be definitely
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Dear Aunt Share - thanks for love, support and concern. This is what I do, day in and day out - eat well, rest well, work well. I'm not a masochist like these conster, fraudster Gurus, because I don't need anything from anyone - the existence provides me and has provided me everything I need. In fact I only take care of myself, always true to myself, totally lost in my beloved Rosathea, always thinking of her, the things I need to do to impress her, why yesterday I went for labor day shopping and bought a few Abercrombies, I think of how to win her love, admiration, respect, hoping I will hear from her soon - the rest of all this is very accidental. Love, Ravi. On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Ravi, just take good care of yourself, ok? Maybe get some good rest. Some healthy delicious food and beverage. Some fun exercise in sunshine and fresh air. Such common sense approaches can help a lot when the old world starts shaking us up. I realize you're a young, strong man, etc. Nonetheless, very wise to take good care of the body mind vehicle. If only to be an even better lover of all that is. Share -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 4, 2012 2:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret I just want to add here something quick - I'm not here to share my personal stories to titillate, woo some old farts here jaded, wearied, worn down by their failed spiritual journeys, sold into Maharishi's con, deception - as Nabby stated it so beautifully - it's in the fine print - what does the fine print say? Three words - responsibility, accountability and transparency(self-honesty). I'm not going to elaborate my personal stories for some factual accuracy, or to clarify the slander, lies spread by people with chin-envies and small penis complexes. I use my personal stories to add a certain context, to add detail, personal touch, feel to my stories. Because this is not some dry, intellectual, writing - no nedo-advaitic puny, pathetic platitudes that I'm indulging in nor is it the passable, presentable, platitudes that some Gurus deceiving and deluding themselves as divine mothers, avatars My writing is a love affair, regardless of who's reading or not, the audience I'm talking to is not alien, distant to me. As I write I feel lot of love, oneness with whom I'm communicating, writing in this case. I want my audience to feel the primary motivation of my writing - which is ultimately love. I'm not trying to deceive innocent, naive, gullible audience like Barry and Curtis do and then turn around and cry wolf, slander, lie, indulging in their shameless, clueless, whiny, drama queenery. I try to create a rich tapestry, a stunning mosaic to express my love, my journey, my thoughts, on my spiritual journey - this tapestry, mosaic with the beautiful set of English adjectives. I don't claim to be an omniscient, omnipotent, all-knowing person - just a simple, vulnerable, helpless, loving, created being at the mercy of this dynamic, organic, mysterious entity known as the existence, reality or God. All I have is my brutal-self honesty and integrity. Of course I also use my writing to create a complex, intricate, maze, den, web, context to GIS (Goad, insult and slay) my adversaries and cruelly expose their biases, fears, insecurities, anxieties, their deception. One can feel the love of my writing and reciprocate my love. But if you are GIS'd - you can preserve your self-dignity like many others or be shameless, clueless, manipulative, deceivers like Barry, Curtis. Either way I strongly believe I can't ultimately touch, taint or tarnish anyone's consciousness - the purity of their first person ontologies, their unique expression, manifestation within this organic, dynamic, mysterious entity. So feel my love or slander me. It makes no difference to me. Love, Ravi On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:16 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Isn't it a bit ironic that Barry uses FFL to criticize Rick who started FFL?! Well, he isn't the first to do so, and he won't be the last. I've done it myself on occasion. What *is* ironic is that Barry usually fawns all over Rick, especially for having created this forum as a place where everyone can feel free to say what they think. As for Barry's reply to Raunchy: clearly she was not praising Ravi, as Barry accused. She was objecting to using the family topic to criticize Ravi. Right, she wasn't praising him in that post, but from her other posts, she's obviously friendly toward him. That's what makes Barry crazy, that other people *like* Ravi. I actually tend to agree with Barry that whatever someone has said about their private lives on FFL
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, how low can you go? Leave Ravi's family out of your personal grudge against him. Whether you're lying about him or not, it's none of your damn business and certainly none of ours. His private life has no bearing on his participation on this forum. Shame on you. Speaking of asleep at the wheel, Ravi himself volunteered this information, in the context of telling people how cool he was to have flirted with his ex-wife's divorce attorney. Raunchy, you might have missed this from months ago, but it is true. Not from months ago, Susan. Barry's referring to posts Ravi made in the past couple of days. Ravi himself disclosed this and more. Many of us have been very careful to stay away and out of all of this, careful not to egg anyone on. Your admirable self-righteousness comes across as clear as a bell, Susan. Oh Judy, I spoke the truth here, not self righteousness. It's self-righteous whether you actually believe what you're saying or not. I meant what I wrote because it is true for me and for others, and if you found it self righteous, so be it. Since you brought up being self righteous -based on what I have seen, you do a great deal of Correcting of people you do not approve of - whether it is a choice of a word, knowledge of a long forgotten post, parsing an irrelevant point while missing the gist of what someone says, fussing over details, or just stating they are wrong because they don't agree with you and your take on things. You seem to do this mostly to those people who don't agree with you or who appear to like people that you don't. Since this is not a courtroom, a paid editing job, or a legal brief, it comes across to those you have corrected as - well, maybe self righteous. Susan, you haven't a *clue* what is meant by self-righteous. And your litany above is way off-target as well. I'm not going to bother Correcting you because you don't seem capable of absorbing anything. You haven't even addressed what I said in my original post. snip I happen to think Ravi is probably pretty mazing person. But as you know, it was you in particular i was thinking of as not being a good friend to Ravi. I think you must know that. Maybe that is why this bothered you so? If I had known that, I would have found it hilarious. You could hardly be any farther off-target. Very highly selective memory you've got there. Stick to metaphysical speculation, Susan. Your skills do not lie in the area of analyzing real live human beings. Um, actually my skills lie very much in that area. I could have said the same to you, but I don't feel my opinions are facts. But as you know, [wrong] it was you in particular i was thinking of as not being a good friend to Ravi. [wrong] I think you must know that. [wrong] Maybe that is why this bothered you so? [wrong] Q.E.D. Have a look at this exchange (read from the bottom up): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297725 You were posting to FFL that week, BTW, so either you didn't bother to read it, or you've conveniently forgotten it. I have no grudge against Ravi. I have stated my position with regard to him many times, and have *followed through on it*. That is, I will not interact with him or any of the other people on this forum whom I suspect to be mentally ill, because I have neither the training nor the inclination to do so. I totally agree, Barry. I wrote a post similar to this months ago. My feelings were and are that it is unkind to use people who are not well in chat rooms (Just for the record, FFL is not a chat room, it's a public forum.) Thanks for that very significant correction. I am sure it misled everyone!! Yes, very significant. That's why I put it in parentheses and noted that it was just for the record. Susan, are you really bent on taking over the role of Stupid Sal? Why not leave your Just for the Record comments out since it served no purpose to anyone but your own need to correct? Looks like it really bothered you to be corrected. Do you even know what a chat room is? And what does Sal have to do with this conversation? I did not read the interactions you had with her. Why are you trying to muddy the conversation and
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I have correct the statement that no one has been able to defeat me - 3 have, 3 women, women that I fell in love with. One of them stands out in its sheer enormity, the overwhelming way in which she won and transformed me. But these adversaries remain confidential except for one (my ex) of course. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Steve, I was expecting you to wade in here but your response has left me totally amused. It's like a village bumpkin accosting a professor and telling the professor he is an adversary to him - what is the professor supposed to? He will probably just smile, change the topic and indulge in some silly talk with the man - inquire about his well-being, his family, work, activities etc. I'm too, faced with this conundrum every time you fantasize that you are challenging me. Trust me - I haven't met any adversary who has been able to match me since Nov 2009. Not because I'm the strongest or the bravest or the smartest or the most handsome or the most intelligent, no, because I haven't met anyone who can match my brutal self-honesty and integrity. Almost always every one is found immobile, stuck in some belief, some emotional investment or the other whereas I'm forever mobile, free and soaring. Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Love, Ravi On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: ** I'll confess Ravi, that while you were gone, I asked myself, do I miss his presence here? And I will also admit that the answer was no, I did not It is true that we had become quite adversarial, and yes, there was a certain enjoyment it taking on that role. But once some time had passed, after you had been booted off, I realized how unpleasant it had really been. And here you are ramping up that same type behavior. I guess you can't stay away from it. I mean it looks like you are waging battles on several fronts. In fact, it seems you've created web sites from which to wage some of these battles. At any rate, I find it distasteful, that you see fit to spew some much venom. Excuse me if I am not able to respond quickly to anything you might say. We are spending part of the weekend here in Chicago, and I don't have ready access to a computer. Sharing it with my wife and daughter. It is true that during your last stint, I had gotten deep into a battle posture with you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically, ruthlessly, mercilessly rip him apart assuming he will continue along on his clueless, charade of his past trickery here. No sir - no Mayan Messiah of Morons, no Maitreya of Morons getting a free pass from me. So remember that. That perfectly defines the troll agenda doesn't it? Baby - I'm down with anything that helps your rehabilitation, I have a special kind of love for you. Just don't, don't, you know what..:-). Anyway this is all from the Message view that I can't but help notice. Plus I was talking to Barry. So, Bzzzt..back off, you are not in my list of interesting persons. Not Interested. Take your whiny, drama queenery, elsewhere - Get it? Love, Ravi
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My ex taunted me at the courthouse as she walked away with everything, the kids - the complete physical, legal custody with no visitation, even her lawyer privately apologized to me though I was being playful and even flirting with her, my ex said I was a loser and will always be a loser - I had to agree for the first time, on that point and on that point alone - that yes I was indeed a loser and will always be a loser, loser lover - but wait - oh hello my fantasy beloved Rosathea. Now watch out Steve - know I can whup your ass, any time, at my fancy, at my will - except I don't have any satisfaction from you since you are so dumb, and clueless that you don't even realize it and you deprive me of this pleasure. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: I have correct the statement that no one has been able to defeat me - 3 have, 3 women, women that I fell in love with. One of them stands out in its sheer enormity, the overwhelming way in which she won and transformed me. But these adversaries remain confidential except for one (my ex) of course. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Steve, I was expecting you to wade in here but your response has left me totally amused. It's like a village bumpkin accosting a professor and telling the professor he is an adversary to him - what is the professor supposed to? He will probably just smile, change the topic and indulge in some silly talk with the man - inquire about his well-being, his family, work, activities etc. I'm too, faced with this conundrum every time you fantasize that you are challenging me. Trust me - I haven't met any adversary who has been able to match me since Nov 2009. Not because I'm the strongest or the bravest or the smartest or the most handsome or the most intelligent, no, because I haven't met anyone who can match my brutal self-honesty and integrity. Almost always every one is found immobile, stuck in some belief, some emotional investment or the other whereas I'm forever mobile, free and soaring. Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Love, Ravi On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: ** I'll confess Ravi, that while you were gone, I asked myself, do I miss his presence here? And I will also admit that the answer was no, I did not It is true that we had become quite adversarial, and yes, there was a certain enjoyment it taking on that role. But once some time had passed, after you had been booted off, I realized how unpleasant it had really been. And here you are ramping up that same type behavior. I guess you can't stay away from it. I mean it looks like you are waging battles on several fronts. In fact, it seems you've created web sites from which to wage some of these battles. At any rate, I find it distasteful, that you see fit to spew some much venom. Excuse me if I am not able to respond quickly to anything you might say. We are spending part of the weekend here in Chicago, and I don't have ready access to a computer. Sharing it with my wife and daughter. It is true that during your last stint, I had gotten deep into a battle posture with you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically, ruthlessly, mercilessly rip him apart assuming he will continue along on his clueless, charade of his past trickery here. No sir - no Mayan Messiah of Morons, no Maitreya of Morons getting a free pass from me. So remember that. That perfectly defines the troll agenda doesn't it? Baby - I'm down with anything that helps your rehabilitation, I have a special kind of love for you. Just don't, don't, you know what..:-). Anyway this is all from the Message view that I can't but help notice. Plus I was talking to Barry. So, Bzzzt..back off, you are not in my list of interesting persons. Not Interested. Take your whiny, drama queenery, elsewhere - Get it? Love, Ravi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: My ex taunted me at the courthouse as she walked away with everything, the kids - the complete physical, legal custody with no visitation, even her lawyer privately apologized to me though I was being playful and even flirting with her, my ex said I was a loser and will always be a loser - I had to agree for the first time, on that point and on that point alone - that yes I was indeed a loser and will always be a loser, loser lover - but wait - oh hello my fantasy beloved Rosathea. Now watch out Steve - know I can whup your ass, any time, at my fancy, at my will - except I don't have any satisfaction from you since you are so dumb, and clueless that you don't even realize it and you deprive me of this pleasure. You've got dribble on your chin again. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...wrote: I have correct the statement that no one has been able to defeat me - 3 have, 3 women, women that I fell in love with. One of them stands out in its sheer enormity, the overwhelming way in which she won and transformed me. But these adversaries remain confidential except for one (my ex) of course. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...wrote: Dear Steve, I was expecting you to wade in here but your response has left me totally amused. It's like a village bumpkin accosting a professor and telling the professor he is an adversary to him - what is the professor supposed to? He will probably just smile, change the topic and indulge in some silly talk with the man - inquire about his well-being, his family, work, activities etc. I'm too, faced with this conundrum every time you fantasize that you are challenging me. Trust me - I haven't met any adversary who has been able to match me since Nov 2009. Not because I'm the strongest or the bravest or the smartest or the most handsome or the most intelligent, no, because I haven't met anyone who can match my brutal self-honesty and integrity. Almost always every one is found immobile, stuck in some belief, some emotional investment or the other whereas I'm forever mobile, free and soaring. Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Love, Ravi On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** I'll confess Ravi, that while you were gone, I asked myself, do I miss his presence here? And I will also admit that the answer was no, I did not It is true that we had become quite adversarial, and yes, there was a certain enjoyment it taking on that role. But once some time had passed, after you had been booted off, I realized how unpleasant it had really been. And here you are ramping up that same type behavior. I guess you can't stay away from it. I mean it looks like you are waging battles on several fronts. In fact, it seems you've created web sites from which to wage some of these battles. At any rate, I find it distasteful, that you see fit to spew some much venom. Excuse me if I am not able to respond quickly to anything you might say. We are spending part of the weekend here in Chicago, and I don't have ready access to a computer. Sharing it with my wife and daughter. It is true that during your last stint, I had gotten deep into a battle posture with you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically, ruthlessly, mercilessly rip him apart assuming he will continue along on his clueless, charade of his past trickery here. No sir - no Mayan Messiah of Morons, no Maitreya of Morons getting a free pass from me. So remember that. That perfectly defines the troll agenda doesn't it? Baby - I'm down with anything that helps your rehabilitation, I have a special kind of love for you. Just don't, don't, you know what..:-). Anyway this is all from the Message view that I can't but help notice. Plus I was talking to Barry. So, Bzzzt..back off, you are not in my list of interesting persons.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Hey Rav. Thanks for your reply. Maybe one day you will be recognized for the great sage and guru that you are. I know that you made a concerted effort to be recognized as Ravi Guru, the next Western Yogi some years back, and I know that that attempt fell flat. But, you know Ronald Reagan had to try several times before he won the presidency, so I would suggest that you not give up the fight. And yes, I hope that the personal sacrifices you have had to make have been worth it, i.e. losing family etc, But many times great men have had to endure such sacrifices, and also difficult circumstances growing up, so maybe all these ingredients will come together and allow you to be recognized for your greatness. And we here, can say, that we were at the ground level of this emergence. Love ya like a brother, Steve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Steve, I was expecting you to wade in here but your response has left me totally amused. It's like a village bumpkin accosting a professor and telling the professor he is an adversary to him - what is the professor supposed to? He will probably just smile, change the topic and indulge in some silly talk with the man - inquire about his well-being, his family, work, activities etc. I'm too, faced with this conundrum every time you fantasize that you are challenging me. Trust me - I haven't met any adversary who has been able to match me since Nov 2009. Not because I'm the strongest or the bravest or the smartest or the most handsome or the most intelligent, no, because I haven't met anyone who can match my brutal self-honesty and integrity. Almost always every one is found immobile, stuck in some belief, some emotional investment or the other whereas I'm forever mobile, free and soaring. Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Love, Ravi On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** I'll confess Ravi, that while you were gone, I asked myself, do I miss his presence here? And I will also admit that the answer was no, I did not It is true that we had become quite adversarial, and yes, there was a certain enjoyment it taking on that role. But once some time had passed, after you had been booted off, I realized how unpleasant it had really been. And here you are ramping up that same type behavior. I guess you can't stay away from it. I mean it looks like you are waging battles on several fronts. In fact, it seems you've created web sites from which to wage some of these battles. At any rate, I find it distasteful, that you see fit to spew some much venom. Excuse me if I am not able to respond quickly to anything you might say. We are spending part of the weekend here in Chicago, and I don't have ready access to a computer. Sharing it with my wife and daughter. It is true that during your last stint, I had gotten deep into a battle posture with you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically, ruthlessly, mercilessly rip him apart assuming he will continue along on his clueless, charade of his past trickery here. No sir - no Mayan Messiah of Morons, no Maitreya of Morons getting a free pass from me. So remember that. That perfectly defines the troll agenda doesn't it? Baby - I'm down with anything that helps your rehabilitation, I have a special kind of love for you. Just don't, don't, you know what..:-). Anyway this is all from the Message view that I can't but help notice. Plus I was talking to Barry. So, Bzzzt..back off, you are not in my list of interesting persons. Not Interested. Take your whiny, drama queenery, elsewhere - Get it? Love, Ravi
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dear Ravi, I'm so sorry you had to go through all this with ex. Must be awful to be separated from your children. Wish I knew the exactly right words to say to soothe your heart. And Rosathea as wonderful as she might be, probably not much help in this situation. Anyway fwiw, I'm doing my best to practice compassion, what the Buddhists call lovingkindness. Not always easy to do. Figure if someone is hurtful or snide or whatever, probably because they're hurting inside. Even if it's not obvious. Ann had a good insight about this. I do love how much of the time you take yourself lightly. Makes me smile a lot. big hug from Auntie Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 1:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret My ex taunted me at the courthouse as she walked away with everything, the kids - the complete physical, legal custody with no visitation, even her lawyer privately apologized to me though I was being playful and even flirting with her, my ex said I was a loser and will always be a loser - I had to agree for the first time, on that point and on that point alone - that yes I was indeed a loser and will always be a loser, loser lover - but wait - oh hello my fantasy beloved Rosathea. Now watch out Steve - know I can whup your ass, any time, at my fancy, at my will - except I don't have any satisfaction from you since you are so dumb, and clueless that you don't even realize it and you deprive me of this pleasure. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: I have correct the statement that no one has been able to defeat me - 3 have, 3 women, women that I fell in love with. One of them stands out in its sheer enormity, the overwhelming way in which she won and transformed me. But these adversaries remain confidential except for one (my ex) of course. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Steve, I was expecting you to wade in here but your response has left me totally amused. It's like a village bumpkin accosting a professor and telling the professor he is an adversary to him - what is the professor supposed to? He will probably just smile, change the topic and indulge in some silly talk with the man - inquire about his well-being, his family, work, activities etc. I'm too, faced with this conundrum every time you fantasize that you are challenging me. Trust me - I haven't met any adversary who has been able to match me since Nov 2009. Not because I'm the strongest or the bravest or the smartest or the most handsome or the most intelligent, no, because I haven't met anyone who can match my brutal self-honesty and integrity. Almost always every one is found immobile, stuck in some belief, some emotional investment or the other whereas I'm forever mobile, free and soaring. Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Love, Ravi On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'll confess Ravi, that while you were gone, I asked myself, do I miss his presence here? And I will also admit that the answer was no, I did not It is true that we had become quite adversarial, and yes, there was a certain enjoyment it taking on that role. But once some time had passed, after you had been booted off, I realized how unpleasant it had really been. And here you are ramping up that same type behavior. I guess you can't stay away from it. I mean it looks like you are waging battles on several fronts. In fact, it seems you've created web sites from which to wage some of these battles. At any rate, I find it distasteful, that you see fit to spew some much venom. Excuse me if I am not able to respond quickly to anything you might say. We are spending part of the weekend here in Chicago, and I don't have ready access to a computer. Sharing it with my wife and daughter. It is true that during your last stint, I had gotten deep into a battle posture with you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically
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On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:25 AM, salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: My ex taunted me at the courthouse as she walked away with everything, the kids - the complete physical, legal custody with no visitation, even her lawyer privately apologized to me though I was being playful and even flirting with her, my ex said I was a loser and will always be a loser - I had to agree for the first time, on that point and on that point alone - that yes I was indeed a loser and will always be a loser, loser lover - but wait - oh hello my fantasy beloved Rosathea. Now watch out Steve - know I can whup your ass, any time, at my fancy, at my will - except I don't have any satisfaction from you since you are so dumb, and clueless that you don't even realize it and you deprive me of this pleasure. You've got dribble on your chin again. Dear drooling, salivating, chinless beauty, This is not the first time I have attracted the attention of someone feeling the pangs of chin-envy..LOL.. Are you feeling pretty un-petted these days? Look I have to blame you here, you got sucked in by Barry and I understand how hard it is to get petted by a paranoid, delusional, narcissistic person, It took me 13 years if that's any comfort, but unlike you I had other compensating factors - not to mention how beautiful this person was. Anyway I don't think I'm a really good looking fellow but for some reason I have always managed to attract beautiful women and yes your chin-envy gives it away - my chin, jaw seems to play an important factor. Now just go and run around baby.
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Oh my sweet, kind, gentle Auntie - it's all good, it's an old, old story now - I just get carried away in my stories :-). Like I said I was being playful with her lawyer - Kelly, she was a bit older than me but good looking - drove my ex mad..LOL..she was like, don't talk to my attorney - not realizing the stupidity and hilarity of her statement. Anyway her lawyer starts explaining how she is a nice, honest person, goes to bed every night peacefully (as in I'm just doing my job) and I'm like whatever and then she looks me in the eye and says - look Ravi, you are a really nice guy, I am still being playful and she repeats with emphasis - No, Ravi listen - you are a very nice guy and then I finally acknowledged and gave her one of my patented bows. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** dear Ravi, I'm so sorry you had to go through all this with ex. Must be awful to be separated from your children. Wish I knew the exactly right words to say to soothe your heart. And Rosathea as wonderful as she might be, probably not much help in this situation. Anyway fwiw, I'm doing my best to practice compassion, what the Buddhists call lovingkindness. Not always easy to do. Figure if someone is hurtful or snide or whatever, probably because they're hurting inside. Even if it's not obvious. Ann had a good insight about this. I do love how much of the time you take yourself lightly. Makes me smile a lot. big hug from Auntie Share -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, September 3, 2012 1:38 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret My ex taunted me at the courthouse as she walked away with everything, the kids - the complete physical, legal custody with no visitation, even her lawyer privately apologized to me though I was being playful and even flirting with her, my ex said I was a loser and will always be a loser - I had to agree for the first time, on that point and on that point alone - that yes I was indeed a loser and will always be a loser, loser lover - but wait - oh hello my fantasy beloved Rosathea. Now watch out Steve - know I can whup your ass, any time, at my fancy, at my will - except I don't have any satisfaction from you since you are so dumb, and clueless that you don't even realize it and you deprive me of this pleasure. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: I have correct the statement that no one has been able to defeat me - 3 have, 3 women, women that I fell in love with. One of them stands out in its sheer enormity, the overwhelming way in which she won and transformed me. But these adversaries remain confidential except for one (my ex) of course. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Steve, I was expecting you to wade in here but your response has left me totally amused. It's like a village bumpkin accosting a professor and telling the professor he is an adversary to him - what is the professor supposed to? He will probably just smile, change the topic and indulge in some silly talk with the man - inquire about his well-being, his family, work, activities etc. I'm too, faced with this conundrum every time you fantasize that you are challenging me. Trust me - I haven't met any adversary who has been able to match me since Nov 2009. Not because I'm the strongest or the bravest or the smartest or the most handsome or the most intelligent, no, because I haven't met anyone who can match my brutal self-honesty and integrity. Almost always every one is found immobile, stuck in some belief, some emotional investment or the other whereas I'm forever mobile, free and soaring. Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Love, Ravi On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: ** I'll confess Ravi, that while you were gone, I asked myself, do I miss his presence here? And I will also admit that the answer was no, I did not It is true that we had become quite adversarial, and yes, there was a certain enjoyment it taking on that role. But once some time had passed, after you had been booted off, I realized how unpleasant it had really been. And here you are ramping up that same type behavior. I guess you can't stay away from it. I mean it looks like you are waging battles on several fronts. In fact, it seems you've created web sites from which to wage some of these battles. At any rate, I find it distasteful, that you see fit to spew some much venom. Excuse me if I am not able to respond quickly to anything you might say. We are spending part of the weekend here in Chicago, and I don't
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Steve, This speaks (outside this particular context) of whether or not we ever are doing someone a favor by conferring on them guru status. At first the payoff seems obvious, they get rich, and if they are so inclined, they get their pick of some high end tail. But unless they really have the narcissist or psychopathic tendency strongly, somewhere there is a disconnect between the image projected on them and who they know they are inside. Of course every performer can catch a taste large or small of this tendency for people to project qualities on them that the person lacks in themselves. With the fear of public speaking giving a fear of death a run for its money by the numbers, whenever a person projects confidence in addressing a group, some apes will raise their paws and hoot please be our leader, you are so confident and I feel kind of squirrelly. I have read that one quality in many great actors is an unusually high level of personal charisma, they can really put it out there. Even in my world I have grown in my ability to beam at people while feeling relaxed. Practice makes perfect. It is easy for people to read more into this than what it is. But add the toxic fuel of a disturbed personality and you get...well we all know examples of this freak show from history. But what about the more ordinary guy. I am inclined to put Maharishi in this category. I believe his guru cloak was woven over time. Eventually it overwhelmed his personality. That is what makes Judith's book such a revelation in humanizing him. You can see that he didn't seem to come in with a full blown master complex. Around the time of announcing his World Government from his Liberace inspired fantasy palace in Seelisberg, it was all guru and very little Mahesh left. Soon he excommunicated those who knew him before, favoring yes men eunuchs whose ambiguous sexuality and pasty complexions would never be a challenge to his supreme reign. Checking our penises at the door like guns at an old west saloon, we minced into his presence, deferentially, adoringly, and emasculated. Certainly no one would stand up and say something like Excuse me Maharishi, but what you just said doesn't make sense and contradicts something you said before... I have spent some time on this site analyzing this all from the standpoint of how it affected us. But what was this doing to him? Most of the time it is hard to care about the billionaire guru. But his disciples project on to them all our insecurities and then drive them into a state of assholyness because humans either have to be deranged to begin with to want to be a guru, or the adulation itself twists them into an unpleasant kind of human who swings between believing their own kiss-ass press, and knowing that at any time someone might stand up and say: the emperor has no clothes. And I know that this swims upstream in the current of people who believe that some people are actually more realized than others. however you want to define it. And to some degree I am on board with that except where they drift into ontological presumptions about ultimate reality where IMO humans have the worst possible track record due to a design flaw that makes it easy for us to believe a bunch of shit that isn't true if it is presented with real whipped cream (not that plasti-crap sold in spray cans which are only good for sucking the nitrous out of if there is nothing good on TV) and a real marinated cherry you have soaked in some spirit yourself instead of those horrible faux maraschino cherries that blaspheme one of natures most delicious fruits. Where was I...oh yeah, following gurus makes your dick fall off (ladies will have to speak for themselves on what it does to them) and it turns the object of your guru worship into a money grubbing sari chasing butthole, who cries themselves to sleep every night in a lonely pile of hundred dollar bills, while only receiving the minimal consolation of the comfort of the three pairs of perky globes of bliss on the Playboy centerfold TRIPLETS who share their beds. Who would wish that on anybody? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey Rav. Thanks for your reply. Maybe one day you will be recognized for the great sage and guru that you are. I know that you made a concerted effort to be recognized as Ravi Guru, the next Western Yogi some years back, and I know that that attempt fell flat. But, you know Ronald Reagan had to try several times before he won the presidency, so I would suggest that you not give up the fight. And yes, I hope that the personal sacrifices you have had to make have been worth it, i.e. losing family etc, But many times great men have had to endure such sacrifices, and also difficult circumstances growing up, so maybe all these ingredients will come together and allow you to be recognized for your greatness. And we here,
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(Shrugs..smiles)..Enjoy your vacation Steve, regards to your family and remember for you and you alone I will be rooting for Rams in addition to 49'ers. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:04 AM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: ** Hey Rav. Thanks for your reply. Maybe one day you will be recognized for the great sage and guru that you are. I know that you made a concerted effort to be recognized as Ravi Guru, the next Western Yogi some years back, and I know that that attempt fell flat. But, you know Ronald Reagan had to try several times before he won the presidency, so I would suggest that you not give up the fight. And yes, I hope that the personal sacrifices you have had to make have been worth it, i.e. losing family etc, But many times great men have had to endure such sacrifices, and also difficult circumstances growing up, so maybe all these ingredients will come together and allow you to be recognized for your greatness. And we here, can say, that we were at the ground level of this emergence. Love ya like a brother, Steve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Steve, I was expecting you to wade in here but your response has left me totally amused. It's like a village bumpkin accosting a professor and telling the professor he is an adversary to him - what is the professor supposed to? He will probably just smile, change the topic and indulge in some silly talk with the man - inquire about his well-being, his family, work, activities etc. I'm too, faced with this conundrum every time you fantasize that you are challenging me. Trust me - I haven't met any adversary who has been able to match me since Nov 2009. Not because I'm the strongest or the bravest or the smartest or the most handsome or the most intelligent, no, because I haven't met anyone who can match my brutal self-honesty and integrity. Almost always every one is found immobile, stuck in some belief, some emotional investment or the other whereas I'm forever mobile, free and soaring. Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Love, Ravi On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** I'll confess Ravi, that while you were gone, I asked myself, do I miss his presence here? And I will also admit that the answer was no, I did not It is true that we had become quite adversarial, and yes, there was a certain enjoyment it taking on that role. But once some time had passed, after you had been booted off, I realized how unpleasant it had really been. And here you are ramping up that same type behavior. I guess you can't stay away from it. I mean it looks like you are waging battles on several fronts. In fact, it seems you've created web sites from which to wage some of these battles. At any rate, I find it distasteful, that you see fit to spew some much venom. Excuse me if I am not able to respond quickly to anything you might say. We are spending part of the weekend here in Chicago, and I don't have ready access to a computer. Sharing it with my wife and daughter. It is true that during your last stint, I had gotten deep into a battle posture with you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically, ruthlessly, mercilessly rip him apart assuming he will continue along on his clueless, charade of his past trickery here. No sir - no Mayan Messiah of Morons, no Maitreya of Morons getting a free pass from me. So remember that. That perfectly defines the troll agenda doesn't it? Baby - I'm down with anything that helps your rehabilitation, I have a special kind of love for you. Just don't, don't, you know what..:-). Anyway this is all from the Message view that I can't but help notice. Plus I was talking to Barry. So, Bzzzt..back off, you are not in my list of interesting persons. Not Interested. Take your whiny, drama queenery, elsewhere - Get it? Love,
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues Who would wish that on anybody? Ravi was right ofcourse, it didn't take long before the hillbilly-singer was back where he left us last time and where he's feeling most comfortable: Maharishi-bashing. If all else fails in life it's great to have someone to bash, particularily someone who's dead, don't you think ?
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On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues Who would wish that on anybody? Ravi was right ofcourse, it didn't take long before the hillbilly-singer was back where he left us last time and where he's feeling most comfortable: Maharishi-bashing. If all else fails in life it's great to have someone to bash, particularily someone who's dead, don't you think ? _ No worries Nabby, he doesn't have any moral, ethical, spiritual, intelligent voice until he stops being Maitreya of Morons. He though Maharishi was his ticket to celebrity and an endless supply of hot, younger chicks...LOL..no wonder the bastard's still bitter :-)
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Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing. What course was that on? I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness. I thought you guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between Marley's ghost and the thought in meditation that inspires the marketing crew to try some new scheme to get TM into the lives beyond the 687 people who still practice it exclusively now. So you think a guy like Maharishi actually dies? And how do you imagine my bashing affects him? Is it like a disturbance in sleep like when someone in the bed farts and we almost wake up and then turn over? Or does it really get to him, do my words cause him to gnash his teeth and pound his fist into his hands in a Sienfeldesque CURTIS! Does he shake his fist at the sky like Jon Stewart and curse me from beyond the grave? Does he try to extract retribution on me in this world to get me back in some way like moving a chair when I sleep so I stub my toe during a mid-sleep groggy bathroom run? Exactly how pissed do my words make this spirit of Maharishi you imagine? Should I invest in a voodoo doll of him to avoid his evil eye? Now of course if your point was that when I posted the same perspective when he was alive he had a chance to challenge what I said directly, I would agree. I think we are both glad that he took so many opportunities to give his side here while he was living, and I do miss those exchanges. And how far does this ban about speaking ill of the dead extend Nabbie. Do we include Napoleon, Sun Myng Moon, John Lennon? What is the key aspect of the unfairness you seem to resent about it all? What if we have a public figure who is so boring that he might as well be dead like King Tony? Do I have to include him in the don't speak about the dead ban. Should we just ban all histories of famous dead people if the perspective isn't only positive? Or was this whole thing just a protective instinct, misguided though I believe it to be, to protect the magical illusions he tried to sell us all about himself during his life? Oh shit I have a fleck of dust in my eye...hey wait a minute...wasn't he a pile of dust the last time we saw him... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues Who would wish that on anybody? Ravi was right ofcourse, it didn't take long before the hillbilly-singer was back where he left us last time and where he's feeling most comfortable: Maharishi-bashing. If all else fails in life it's great to have someone to bash, particularily someone who's dead, don't you think ?
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It's not the fact that he is just dead. You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. You yourself had the the temerity to brand Judy as being full of malice, of trying to slander you, man the gall, arrogance and the stupidity. I feel pity for your ass. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing. What course was that on? I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness. I thought you guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between Marley's ghost and the thought in meditation that inspires the marketing crew to try some new scheme to get TM into the lives beyond the 687 people who still practice it exclusively now. So you think a guy like Maharishi actually dies? And how do you imagine my bashing affects him? Is it like a disturbance in sleep like when someone in the bed farts and we almost wake up and then turn over? Or does it really get to him, do my words cause him to gnash his teeth and pound his fist into his hands in a Sienfeldesque CURTIS! Does he shake his fist at the sky like Jon Stewart and curse me from beyond the grave? Does he try to extract retribution on me in this world to get me back in some way like moving a chair when I sleep so I stub my toe during a mid-sleep groggy bathroom run? Exactly how pissed do my words make this spirit of Maharishi you imagine? Should I invest in a voodoo doll of him to avoid his evil eye? Now of course if your point was that when I posted the same perspective when he was alive he had a chance to challenge what I said directly, I would agree. I think we are both glad that he took so many opportunities to give his side here while he was living, and I do miss those exchanges. And how far does this ban about speaking ill of the dead extend Nabbie. Do we include Napoleon, Sun Myng Moon, John Lennon? What is the key aspect of the unfairness you seem to resent about it all? What if we have a public figure who is so boring that he might as well be dead like King Tony? Do I have to include him in the don't speak about the dead ban. Should we just ban all histories of famous dead people if the perspective isn't only positive? Or was this whole thing just a protective instinct, misguided though I believe it to be, to protect the magical illusions he tried to sell us all about himself during his life? Oh shit I have a fleck of dust in my eye...hey wait a minute...wasn't he a pile of dust the last time we saw him... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues Who would wish that on anybody? Ravi was right ofcourse, it didn't take long before the hillbilly-singer was back where he left us last time and where he's feeling most comfortable: Maharishi-bashing. If all else fails in life it's great to have someone to bash, particularily someone who's dead, don't you think ?
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Dear Curtis, And you will always be morally, spiritually , ethically bankrupt as long as you support Barry's antics. Your progressive values are always suspect. Your stories of young African American kids may warm the hearts of naive, innocent liberals but it doesn't fool me. It's just white man's guilt, white man's burden nicely wrapped as a set of beliefs for you to play wolf on others like Ravi Chivukula. Ravi, who worked in housing projects, smiled, loved even at the age of 23, not even bothered if he was addressed as a b**ch, motherf**ker, because he understood the love. I loved their heart, their music - rap, gospel music, I had experience through a whole cross section of African Americans from crude, innocent, to educated, sophisticated - Dr. Thompson and the secretary Mary - I was touched by their love, they treated me like their own child, their eyes would lit up as I would walk in - it was like being back in India. My love for African-Americans, women and gays is unmatched - not a convenient set of nicely wrapped beliefs to play wolf on others. So I pity your ass, but any time you try to wade into any kind of moral, spiritual, ethical voice here - I warn you - I will whup your ass and parade your dishonesty here for everyone to see. So please do me a favor - just stick to your writing - it's beautiful. Love, Ravi On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: It's not the fact that he is just dead. You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. You yourself had the the temerity to brand Judy as being full of malice, of trying to slander you, man the gall, arrogance and the stupidity. I feel pity for your ass. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing. What course was that on? I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness. I thought you guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between Marley's ghost and the thought in meditation that inspires the marketing crew to try some new scheme to get TM into the lives beyond the 687 people who still practice it exclusively now. So you think a guy like Maharishi actually dies? And how do you imagine my bashing affects him? Is it like a disturbance in sleep like when someone in the bed farts and we almost wake up and then turn over? Or does it really get to him, do my words cause him to gnash his teeth and pound his fist into his hands in a Sienfeldesque CURTIS! Does he shake his fist at the sky like Jon Stewart and curse me from beyond the grave? Does he try to extract retribution on me in this world to get me back in some way like moving a chair when I sleep so I stub my toe during a mid-sleep groggy bathroom run? Exactly how pissed do my words make this spirit of Maharishi you imagine? Should I invest in a voodoo doll of him to avoid his evil eye? Now of course if your point was that when I posted the same perspective when he was alive he had a chance to challenge what I said directly, I would agree. I think we are both glad that he took so many opportunities to give his side here while he was living, and I do miss those exchanges. And how far does this ban about speaking ill of the dead extend Nabbie. Do we include Napoleon, Sun Myng Moon, John Lennon? What is the key aspect of the unfairness you seem to resent about it all? What if we have a public figure who is so boring that he might as well be dead like King Tony? Do I have to include him in the don't speak about the dead ban. Should we just ban all histories of famous dead people if the perspective isn't only positive? Or was this whole thing just a protective instinct, misguided though I believe it to be, to protect the magical illusions he tried to sell us all about himself during his life? Oh shit I have a fleck of dust in my eye...hey wait a minute...wasn't he a pile of dust the last time we saw him... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues Who would wish that on anybody? Ravi was right ofcourse, it didn't take long before the hillbilly-singer was back where he left us last time and where he's feeling most
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: It's not the fact that he is just dead. Did Nabbie just change his handle here? You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. So you were hoping to argue with me about my opinions about a man you didn't know did ya? And you were thinking it might be inappropriate for me to voice opinions about him on a board devoted to those issues. Got it, I'm sure that all makes perfect sense in crazy world. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Yeah, well this is a TM and ex TM focused forum so you are gunna get some talk about the guy I would think. And I wasn't challenged on anything I said, it was just a general insult post like yours. I would welcome someone to challenge the meaning of what I wrote. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. Yeah, the judge got that one right. You yourself had the the temerity to brand Judy as being full of malice, of trying to slander you, man the gall, arrogance and the stupidity. I get it that this site is a soap opera vehicle for your own personal frustrations, but Judy has nothing to do with this exchange. If you are trying to insert yourself into long forgotten exchanges I had with her in the past you are being trollish, trying to get two other people to fight who have no current beef with each other. Now I see that with no TM background all you have to do here is shoot spitballs and hope they will get you noticed, but you aren't gunna get much traction on the train of don't talk about Maharishi here. I feel pity for your ass. No you don't. You feel resentment for your own personal life and you are trying to take that aggression out on strangers here, inserting yourself into conversations between people with actual skin in the game. I may disagree with Nabbie but he knew Maharishi and has earned his opinion about him as I have. You are just a troll looking for a fight about topics you know nothing about while hoping that by interjecting yourself into the personalities of the posters here you wont stick out so much. You are a tumbleweed of unfocused unpleasantness blowing through this group till you completely lose it and get booted off. Again. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing. What course was that on? I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness. I thought you guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between Marley's ghost and the thought in meditation that inspires the marketing crew to try some new scheme to get TM into the lives beyond the 687 people who still practice it exclusively now. So you think a guy like Maharishi actually dies? And how do you imagine my bashing affects him? Is it like a disturbance in sleep like when someone in the bed farts and we almost wake up and then turn over? Or does it really get to him, do my words cause him to gnash his teeth and pound his fist into his hands in a Sienfeldesque CURTIS! Does he shake his fist at the sky like Jon Stewart and curse me from beyond the grave? Does he try to extract retribution on me in this world to get me back in some way like moving a chair when I sleep so I stub my toe during a mid-sleep groggy bathroom run? Exactly how pissed do my words make this spirit of Maharishi you imagine? Should I invest in a voodoo doll of him to avoid his evil eye? Now of course if your point was that when I posted the same perspective when he was alive he had a chance to challenge what I said directly, I would agree. I think we are both glad that he took so many opportunities to give his side here while he was living, and I do miss those exchanges. And how far does this ban about speaking ill of the dead extend Nabbie. Do we include Napoleon, Sun Myng Moon, John Lennon? What is the key aspect of the unfairness you seem to resent about it all? What if we have a public figure who is so boring that he might as well be dead like King Tony? Do I have to include him in the don't speak about the dead ban. Should we just ban all histories of famous dead people if the perspective isn't only positive? Or was this whole thing just a protective instinct, misguided though I believe it to be, to protect the magical
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Maybe it was just all about making a little more money, gaining a little more fame, a little more power... Just typcial ego stuff...is all... Did anyone get enlightened? Sure, they did...? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing. What course was that on? I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness. I thought you guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between Marley's ghost and the thought in meditation that inspires the marketing crew to try some new scheme to get TM into the lives beyond the 687 people who still practice it exclusively now. So you think a guy like Maharishi actually dies? And how do you imagine my bashing affects him? Is it like a disturbance in sleep like when someone in the bed farts and we almost wake up and then turn over? Or does it really get to him, do my words cause him to gnash his teeth and pound his fist into his hands in a Sienfeldesque CURTIS! Does he shake his fist at the sky like Jon Stewart and curse me from beyond the grave? Does he try to extract retribution on me in this world to get me back in some way like moving a chair when I sleep so I stub my toe during a mid-sleep groggy bathroom run? Exactly how pissed do my words make this spirit of Maharishi you imagine? Should I invest in a voodoo doll of him to avoid his evil eye? Now of course if your point was that when I posted the same perspective when he was alive he had a chance to challenge what I said directly, I would agree. I think we are both glad that he took so many opportunities to give his side here while he was living, and I do miss those exchanges. And how far does this ban about speaking ill of the dead extend Nabbie. Do we include Napoleon, Sun Myng Moon, John Lennon? What is the key aspect of the unfairness you seem to resent about it all? What if we have a public figure who is so boring that he might as well be dead like King Tony? Do I have to include him in the don't speak about the dead ban. Should we just ban all histories of famous dead people if the perspective isn't only positive? Or was this whole thing just a protective instinct, misguided though I believe it to be, to protect the magical illusions he tried to sell us all about himself during his life? Oh shit I have a fleck of dust in my eye...hey wait a minute...wasn't he a pile of dust the last time we saw him... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues Who would wish that on anybody? Ravi was right ofcourse, it didn't take long before the hillbilly-singer was back where he left us last time and where he's feeling most comfortable: Maharishi-bashing. If all else fails in life it's great to have someone to bash, particularily someone who's dead, don't you think ?
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Dear Curtis, You are a sick, sly, SOB - proving you don't even have any semblance of self-dignity, a masochist..LOL..as Judy once said beautifully put..FOAD, I have bigger fish to fry. Love, Ravi On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: It's not the fact that he is just dead. Did Nabbie just change his handle here? You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. So you were hoping to argue with me about my opinions about a man you didn't know did ya? And you were thinking it might be inappropriate for me to voice opinions about him on a board devoted to those issues. Got it, I'm sure that all makes perfect sense in crazy world. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Yeah, well this is a TM and ex TM focused forum so you are gunna get some talk about the guy I would think. And I wasn't challenged on anything I said, it was just a general insult post like yours. I would welcome someone to challenge the meaning of what I wrote. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. Yeah, the judge got that one right. You yourself had the the temerity to brand Judy as being full of malice, of trying to slander you, man the gall, arrogance and the stupidity. I get it that this site is a soap opera vehicle for your own personal frustrations, but Judy has nothing to do with this exchange. If you are trying to insert yourself into long forgotten exchanges I had with her in the past you are being trollish, trying to get two other people to fight who have no current beef with each other. Now I see that with no TM background all you have to do here is shoot spitballs and hope they will get you noticed, but you aren't gunna get much traction on the train of don't talk about Maharishi here. I feel pity for your ass. No you don't. You feel resentment for your own personal life and you are trying to take that aggression out on strangers here, inserting yourself into conversations between people with actual skin in the game. I may disagree with Nabbie but he knew Maharishi and has earned his opinion about him as I have. You are just a troll looking for a fight about topics you know nothing about while hoping that by interjecting yourself into the personalities of the posters here you wont stick out so much. You are a tumbleweed of unfocused unpleasantness blowing through this group till you completely lose it and get booted off. Again. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing. What course was that on? I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness. I thought you guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between Marley's ghost and the thought in meditation that inspires the marketing crew to try some new scheme to get TM into the lives beyond the 687 people who still practice it exclusively now. So you think a guy like Maharishi actually dies? And how do you imagine my bashing affects him? Is it like a disturbance in sleep like when someone in the bed farts and we almost wake up and then turn over? Or does it really get to him, do my words cause him to gnash his teeth and pound his fist into his hands in a Sienfeldesque CURTIS! Does he shake his fist at the sky like Jon Stewart and curse me from beyond the grave? Does he try to extract retribution on me in this world to get me back in some way like moving a chair when I sleep so I stub my toe during a mid-sleep groggy bathroom run? Exactly how pissed do my words make this spirit of Maharishi you imagine? Should I invest in a voodoo doll of him to avoid his evil eye? Now of course if your point was that when I posted the same perspective when he was alive he had a chance to challenge what I said directly, I would agree. I think we are both glad that he took so many opportunities to give his side here while he was living, and I do miss those exchanges. And how far does this ban about speaking ill of the dead extend Nabbie. Do we include Napoleon, Sun Myng Moon, John Lennon? What is the key aspect of the unfairness you seem to resent about it all? What if we have a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Hard to really see the purpose in telling strangers on the internet to Fuck off and Die. That is kind of dark, even for me. But it does remind me that you are an ill-wisher and although the depth of your malice caught me off guard last time, I am much better prepared for you now. I have to disagree with your grandiose claim to some imaginary bigger fish to fry. In this discussion you were able to make a nasty insult to a stranger on a forum for people in a group you have no connection with. Making unpleasant statements like that IS your purpose for being here. It is pretty much all you have contributed here since you got back. Self-aggrandizing personal attacks on people you don't know, loaded with the personal charge of your own life's disappointments. There really should be a name for this Internet forum phenomenon, perhaps using figurative language that implies that one lives under a bridge in darkness, only to pop out with an incoherent attack when someone comes across I'll give it some thought I'm sure I can come up with something. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Curtis, You are a sick, sly, SOB - proving you don't even have any semblance of self-dignity, a masochist..LOL..as Judy once said beautifully put..FOAD, I have bigger fish to fry. Love, Ravi On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: It's not the fact that he is just dead. Did Nabbie just change his handle here? You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. So you were hoping to argue with me about my opinions about a man you didn't know did ya? And you were thinking it might be inappropriate for me to voice opinions about him on a board devoted to those issues. Got it, I'm sure that all makes perfect sense in crazy world. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Yeah, well this is a TM and ex TM focused forum so you are gunna get some talk about the guy I would think. And I wasn't challenged on anything I said, it was just a general insult post like yours. I would welcome someone to challenge the meaning of what I wrote. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. Yeah, the judge got that one right. You yourself had the the temerity to brand Judy as being full of malice, of trying to slander you, man the gall, arrogance and the stupidity. I get it that this site is a soap opera vehicle for your own personal frustrations, but Judy has nothing to do with this exchange. If you are trying to insert yourself into long forgotten exchanges I had with her in the past you are being trollish, trying to get two other people to fight who have no current beef with each other. Now I see that with no TM background all you have to do here is shoot spitballs and hope they will get you noticed, but you aren't gunna get much traction on the train of don't talk about Maharishi here. I feel pity for your ass. No you don't. You feel resentment for your own personal life and you are trying to take that aggression out on strangers here, inserting yourself into conversations between people with actual skin in the game. I may disagree with Nabbie but he knew Maharishi and has earned his opinion about him as I have. You are just a troll looking for a fight about topics you know nothing about while hoping that by interjecting yourself into the personalities of the posters here you wont stick out so much. You are a tumbleweed of unfocused unpleasantness blowing through this group till you completely lose it and get booted off. Again. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing. What course was that on? I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness. I thought you guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between Marley's ghost and the thought in meditation that inspires the marketing crew to try some new scheme to get TM into the lives beyond the 687 people who still practice it exclusively now. So you think a guy like Maharishi actually
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues Who would wish that on anybody? Ravi was right ofcourse, it didn't take long before the hillbilly-singer was back where he left us last time and where he's feeling most comfortable: Maharishi-bashing. If all else fails in life it's great to have someone to bash, particularily someone who's dead, don't you think ? _ No worries Nabby, he doesn't have any moral, ethical, spiritual, intelligent voice until he stops being Maitreya of Morons. He though Maharishi was his ticket to celebrity and an endless supply of hot, younger chicks...LOL..no wonder the bastard's still bitter :-) Bingo :-) Maharishi gave him a ticket for a ride to a place he denied himself of going, prefferring instead to play for pennies in the streets. No wonder he is bitter. Maharishi put out a tempting bait and millions thought it would be an easy match, ignoring the fine print. Choosing to not see their own foolishness they now frown on Maharishi, the TMO, everything Vedic and even India itself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: snip Bingo :-) Maharishi gave him a ticket for a ride to a place he denied himself of going, prefferring instead to play for pennies in the streets. No wonder he is bitter. I would be if I were playing for pennies on the street. Sounds like you need a better location or might need some more practice. Maharishi put out a tempting bait and millions thought it would be an easy match, ignoring the fine print. Let me guess what you imagine this fine print said: Please add the word 'not' to all claims. Choosing to not see their own foolishness they now frown on Maharishi, the TMO, everything Vedic and even India itself. Got a little carried away with yourself there for a minute didn't you Nabs? India? WTF! I see how appealing this fantasy would be for someone like yourself living in the land of the ever hopeful. I'm sorry you can't appreciate my nuanced view of the complex person of Maharishi, and prefer to see it through the lens of the black and white. It comes off as more a you're either fer us or agin us than what I would expect from someone claiming to faithfully practice a techniques that promised more creative intelligence. (even with the fine print only you can read) My conclusion in the end is that TM neither improves anyone or makes them worse in any way. It just provides a platform for people to exhibit their natures, and yours is not so appealing. You attempt to denigrate my art to get back at me for disagreeing with you about the holiness of Maharishi. Even by the standards of the street, that is a bogus move.
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All the while perpetuating this clique, this white, mid-western, ole boy network. No matter how many times Barry and Curtis get humiliated by me, they are needy, clueless, shameless -- they will always manage to deceive, con, attract some innocent naive, gullible liberals, with their deceptive writing, the Xenos, the Susans, the Steves. But they will not fool the cogent, coherent, compelling Mavericks of this list, The Judy Stein's, The Robin Carlsen's, The Bob Price's of this list. I feel contempt and disgust for these two MF'ers - Curtis and Barry. I have no need to hide behind any political correctness, any white man's guilt, burden to call it as I see it and I spare none. My forefathers were equal opportunity racists, however a true Brahmin first works on his own biases, fears, insecurities, anxieties before going after others - he doesn't even spare his own family and I haven't - other than my sisters but such is the conditioning, love of an Indian brother. What's the most that one can do - kill me? I'll mock and laugh at my own body's frailty, fragility, even as I watch it wringing, writhing, agonizing in pain. And then the world will celebrate the glory of the only Brahmin of this world - Ravi Chivukula - his brutal-self honesty and integrity, his commitment to truth, his fearlessness that even death couldn't touch him. That's the Hindu metaphor of a Brahmin - nothing you can earn by birth, it's only accidental that I have been one. The kshatriyas(warriors, kings, administrators) of the past wouldn't touch such a Brahmin - because they knew he had conquered death, they would seek their advice, because they knew he would call it without any bias. Indians talk about a story of how Alexander the Great met such a Brahmin - it could just be a myth for all we know. Such a Brahmin can only be defeated by a woman - he has to be, it has to be so, so he learns to be ever humble, to be ever watchful, change, modify, finetune his behavior, his actions, his biases, his motivations - knowing that the existence - the dynamic, organic, mysterious entity can whup his ass anytime, at its own will, at its own fancy. Yours arrogantly, humbly, hatingly, lovingly, Ravi Chivukula. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Curtis, And you will always be morally, spiritually , ethically bankrupt as long as you support Barry's antics. Your progressive values are always suspect. Your stories of young African American kids may warm the hearts of naive, innocent liberals but it doesn't fool me. It's just white man's guilt, white man's burden nicely wrapped as a set of beliefs for you to play wolf on others like Ravi Chivukula. Ravi, who worked in housing projects, smiled, loved even at the age of 23, not even bothered if he was addressed as a b**ch, motherf**ker, because he understood the love. I loved their heart, their music - rap, gospel music, I had experience through a whole cross section of African Americans from crude, innocent, to educated, sophisticated - Dr. Thompson and the secretary Mary - I was touched by their love, they treated me like their own child, their eyes would lit up as I would walk in - it was like being back in India. My love for African-Americans, women and gays is unmatched - not a convenient set of nicely wrapped beliefs to play wolf on others. So I pity your ass, but any time you try to wade into any kind of moral, spiritual, ethical voice here - I warn you - I will whup your ass and parade your dishonesty here for everyone to see. So please do me a favor - just stick to your writing - it's beautiful. Love, Ravi On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: It's not the fact that he is just dead. You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. You yourself had the the temerity to brand Judy as being full of malice, of trying to slander you, man the gall, arrogance and the stupidity. I feel pity for your ass. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing. What course was that on? I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness. I thought you guys believed that he is still with us somewhere
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Yours arrogantly, humbly, hatingly, lovingly, Ravi Chivukula. Well at least you nailed the arrogantly and hatingly part. I wonder who it was who used to crow so much about being a maverick like you are... similar distorted sense of grandiose self-importance too...just can't remember the name... All the while perpetuating this clique, this white, mid-western, ole boy network. No matter how many times Barry and Curtis get humiliated by me, they are needy, clueless, shameless -- they will always manage to deceive, con, attract some innocent naive, gullible liberals, with their deceptive writing, the Xenos, the Susans, the Steves. But they will not fool the cogent, coherent, compelling Mavericks of this list, The Judy Stein's, The Robin Carlsen's, The Bob Price's of this list. I feel contempt and disgust for these two MF'ers - Curtis and Barry. I have no need to hide behind any political correctness, any white man's guilt, burden to call it as I see it and I spare none. My forefathers were equal opportunity racists, however a true Brahmin first works on his own biases, fears, insecurities, anxieties before going after others - he doesn't even spare his own family and I haven't - other than my sisters but such is the conditioning, love of an Indian brother. What's the most that one can do - kill me? I'll mock and laugh at my own body's frailty, fragility, even as I watch it wringing, writhing, agonizing in pain. And then the world will celebrate the glory of the only Brahmin of this world - Ravi Chivukula - his brutal-self honesty and integrity, his commitment to truth, his fearlessness that even death couldn't touch him. That's the Hindu metaphor of a Brahmin - nothing you can earn by birth, it's only accidental that I have been one. The kshatriyas(warriors, kings, administrators) of the past wouldn't touch such a Brahmin - because they knew he had conquered death, they would seek their advice, because they knew he would call it without any bias. Indians talk about a story of how Alexander the Great met such a Brahmin - it could just be a myth for all we know. Such a Brahmin can only be defeated by a woman - he has to be, it has to be so, so he learns to be ever humble, to be ever watchful, change, modify, finetune his behavior, his actions, his biases, his motivations - knowing that the existence - the dynamic, organic, mysterious entity can whup his ass anytime, at its own will, at its own fancy. Yours arrogantly, humbly, hatingly, lovingly, Ravi Chivukula. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...wrote: Dear Curtis, And you will always be morally, spiritually , ethically bankrupt as long as you support Barry's antics. Your progressive values are always suspect. Your stories of young African American kids may warm the hearts of naive, innocent liberals but it doesn't fool me. It's just white man's guilt, white man's burden nicely wrapped as a set of beliefs for you to play wolf on others like Ravi Chivukula. Ravi, who worked in housing projects, smiled, loved even at the age of 23, not even bothered if he was addressed as a b**ch, motherf**ker, because he understood the love. I loved their heart, their music - rap, gospel music, I had experience through a whole cross section of African Americans from crude, innocent, to educated, sophisticated - Dr. Thompson and the secretary Mary - I was touched by their love, they treated me like their own child, their eyes would lit up as I would walk in - it was like being back in India. My love for African-Americans, women and gays is unmatched - not a convenient set of nicely wrapped beliefs to play wolf on others. So I pity your ass, but any time you try to wade into any kind of moral, spiritual, ethical voice here - I warn you - I will whup your ass and parade your dishonesty here for everyone to see. So please do me a favor - just stick to your writing - it's beautiful. Love, Ravi On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...wrote: It's not the fact that he is just dead. You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. You yourself had the the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: snip Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Hey Ravi, Driving h0me today from Chicago, it ocurred to me to ask if this comes with a Certificate of Authenticity, signed by you, of course? Also, do you know what rights and priviledges I might be entitled to by being a member of this clique? And finally, is this a probationary period, or am I straight away a full fledged member? If possible I'd like an answer to these questions. Thanks, Your Friend Steve
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On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:17 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Yours arrogantly, humbly, hatingly, lovingly, Ravi Chivukula. Well at least you nailed the arrogantly and hatingly part. I wonder who it was who used to crow so much about being a maverick like you are... similar distorted sense of grandiose self-importance too...just can't remember the name... Dear Curtis, I'm glad you latched on the arrogantly hating part - it was indeed for you and Barry to claim, you two - who are the apt metaphors for the Hindu demons - the demons symbolizing ignorance, deception among other things. I know I can never stop your deception - you will always your captive audience. My message was for the others on this list and the lurkers reading this - there are lots and lots of cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick free passes (not Dallas Mavericks, mind you) - lying around, hidden from your sight of course..LOL.. - it's their choice to pick it up or not. I don't think there's any doubt about the nature of my brazen, outrageous, overt grandiosity and narcissism - that's the strength of my belief in my self-honesty and integrity. Love, Ravi All the while perpetuating this clique, this white, mid-western, ole boy network. No matter how many times Barry and Curtis get humiliated by me, they are needy, clueless, shameless -- they will always manage to deceive, con, attract some innocent naive, gullible liberals, with their deceptive writing, the Xenos, the Susans, the Steves. But they will not fool the cogent, coherent, compelling Mavericks of this list, The Judy Stein's, The Robin Carlsen's, The Bob Price's of this list. I feel contempt and disgust for these two MF'ers - Curtis and Barry. I have no need to hide behind any political correctness, any white man's guilt, burden to call it as I see it and I spare none. My forefathers were equal opportunity racists, however a true Brahmin first works on his own biases, fears, insecurities, anxieties before going after others - he doesn't even spare his own family and I haven't - other than my sisters but such is the conditioning, love of an Indian brother. What's the most that one can do - kill me? I'll mock and laugh at my own body's frailty, fragility, even as I watch it wringing, writhing, agonizing in pain. And then the world will celebrate the glory of the only Brahmin of this world - Ravi Chivukula - his brutal-self honesty and integrity, his commitment to truth, his fearlessness that even death couldn't touch him. That's the Hindu metaphor of a Brahmin - nothing you can earn by birth, it's only accidental that I have been one. The kshatriyas(warriors, kings, administrators) of the past wouldn't touch such a Brahmin - because they knew he had conquered death, they would seek their advice, because they knew he would call it without any bias. Indians talk about a story of how Alexander the Great met such a Brahmin - it could just be a myth for all we know. Such a Brahmin can only be defeated by a woman - he has to be, it has to be so, so he learns to be ever humble, to be ever watchful, change, modify, finetune his behavior, his actions, his biases, his motivations - knowing that the existence - the dynamic, organic, mysterious entity can whup his ass anytime, at its own will, at its own fancy. Yours arrogantly, humbly, hatingly, lovingly, Ravi Chivukula. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ ...wrote: Dear Curtis, And you will always be morally, spiritually , ethically bankrupt as long as you support Barry's antics. Your progressive values are always suspect. Your stories of young African American kids may warm the hearts of naive, innocent liberals but it doesn't fool me. It's just white man's guilt, white man's burden nicely wrapped as a set of beliefs for you to play wolf on others like Ravi Chivukula. Ravi, who worked in housing projects, smiled, loved even at the age of 23, not even bothered if he was addressed as a b**ch, motherf**ker, because he understood the love. I loved their heart, their music - rap, gospel music, I had experience through a whole cross section of African Americans from crude, innocent, to educated, sophisticated - Dr. Thompson and the secretary Mary - I was touched by their love, they treated me like their own child, their eyes would lit up as I would walk in - it was like being back in India. My love for African-Americans, women and gays is unmatched - not a convenient set of nicely wrapped beliefs to play wolf on others. So I pity your ass, but any time you try to wade into any kind of moral, spiritual, ethical voice here - I warn you - I will whup your ass and parade your dishonesty here for everyone to
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On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:31 PM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: snip Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Hey Ravi, Driving h0me today from Chicago, it ocurred to me to ask if this comes with a Certificate of Authenticity, signed by you, of course? Also, do you know what rights and priviledges I might be entitled to by being a member of this clique? And finally, is this a probationary period, or am I straight away a full fledged member? If possible I'd like an answer to these questions. Thanks, Your Friend Steve Your choice dear Steve, to remain in this clique or to be a cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick - refer to my earlier message about these free passes that can be claimed by anyone. I have told you many times - I will never forget your phone call in May 2010 and regardless of anything you do, you will always have my love. Love, Ravi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Glad to get your support for the Rams, Ravi. As I'm sure you know there is a possible lock out for hockey. It doesn't appear that you are a L.A. Kings fan, yet. I mean you could have needled me with that, (The Kings beating the Blues in four straight) and I confess it would have hurt more, and likely would have even made me angry as opposed to what your are throwing at me now. Something to think about. And Ravi, I will also confess, that the lady folk who attend hockey games seem to be a step or two above in attractiveness than those attending football, and certainly baseball. So again. Something to think about. However, ticket prices can be a problem. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: (Shrugs..smiles)..Enjoy your vacation Steve, regards to your family and remember for you and you alone I will be rooting for Rams in addition to 49'ers. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:04 AM, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** Hey Rav. Thanks for your reply. Maybe one day you will be recognized for the great sage and guru that you are. I know that you made a concerted effort to be recognized as Ravi Guru, the next Western Yogi some years back, and I know that that attempt fell flat. But, you know Ronald Reagan had to try several times before he won the presidency, so I would suggest that you not give up the fight. And yes, I hope that the personal sacrifices you have had to make have been worth it, i.e. losing family etc, But many times great men have had to endure such sacrifices, and also difficult circumstances growing up, so maybe all these ingredients will come together and allow you to be recognized for your greatness. And we here, can say, that we were at the ground level of this emergence. Love ya like a brother, Steve --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Steve, I was expecting you to wade in here but your response has left me totally amused. It's like a village bumpkin accosting a professor and telling the professor he is an adversary to him - what is the professor supposed to? He will probably just smile, change the topic and indulge in some silly talk with the man - inquire about his well-being, his family, work, activities etc. I'm too, faced with this conundrum every time you fantasize that you are challenging me. Trust me - I haven't met any adversary who has been able to match me since Nov 2009. Not because I'm the strongest or the bravest or the smartest or the most handsome or the most intelligent, no, because I haven't met anyone who can match my brutal self-honesty and integrity. Almost always every one is found immobile, stuck in some belief, some emotional investment or the other whereas I'm forever mobile, free and soaring. Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Love, Ravi On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...: ** I'll confess Ravi, that while you were gone, I asked myself, do I miss his presence here? And I will also admit that the answer was no, I did not It is true that we had become quite adversarial, and yes, there was a certain enjoyment it taking on that role. But once some time had passed, after you had been booted off, I realized how unpleasant it had really been. And here you are ramping up that same type behavior. I guess you can't stay away from it. I mean it looks like you are waging battles on several fronts. In fact, it seems you've created web sites from which to wage some of these battles. At any rate, I find it distasteful, that you see fit to spew some much venom. Excuse me if I am not able to respond quickly to anything you might say. We are spending part of the weekend here in Chicago, and I don't have ready access to a computer. Sharing it with my wife and daughter. It is true that during your last stint, I had gotten deep into a battle posture with you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:31 PM, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: snip Coming to the rest of your message - your opinion places you squarely in Barry's clique. If any other reasonable, intelligent person decides to join your cause I will go ahead and address it. Hey Ravi, Driving h0me today from Chicago, it ocurred to me to ask if this comes with a Certificate of Authenticity, signed by you, of course? Also, do you know what rights and priviledges I might be entitled to by being a member of this clique? And finally, is this a probationary period, or am I straight away a full fledged member? If possible I'd like an answer to these questions. Thanks, Your Friend Steve Your choice dear Steve, to remain in this clique or to be a cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick - refer to my earlier message about these free passes that can be claimed by anyone. I have told you many times - I will never forget your phone call in May 2010 and regardless of anything you do, you will always have my love. Love, Ravi And of course Ravi, that line is always open. But I am not sure if it displays the name of my business etc, so I prefer to keep it somewhat anonymous, but I'd talk anytime. I enjoyed our conversation back then.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Curtis, I'm glad you latched on the arrogantly hating part - it was indeed for you and Barry to claim, you two - who are the apt metaphors for the Hindu demons - the demons symbolizing ignorance, deception among other things. OMG did you just pull an I know you are but what am I on me? Damn that is an old school smackdown. I know I can never stop your deception - you will always your captive audience. See here is where you kind of roll off the rails. You broke into Nabby's typical you are a hillbilly because you say bad things about Maharishi routine, but you don't know the Maharishi, you were just piling on because you sensed it was negative toward me. So your specific complaint here, what it is you are claiming I am deceptive about is lacking. Do you mean I am a deceiver the way George Bush identifies evil doers? It has a you are a poppy pants flabbiness that doesn't convey much more than I am unhappy and I want you to be too. My message was for the others on this list and the lurkers reading this - there are lots and lots of cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick free passes (not Dallas Mavericks, mind you) - lying around, hidden from your sight of course..LOL.. - it's their choice to pick it up or not. Right, you are playing to an imaginary crowd who is fascinated by a guy who never knew Maharishi, try to defend him by insulting a stranger while using Sarah Palin's tagline. I'm afraid you missed your chance for an audience unless you appear on a future episode of divorce court. I don't think there's any doubt about the nature of my brazen, outrageous, overt grandiosity and narcissism - that's the strength of my belief in my self-honesty and integrity. No, that hasn't been working for you for a long time Ravi. And now I'll be less flip with you. The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until they do, why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet no big deal. No one here is a rock star by any measure. We are just a bunch of people chatting. All those groups of people you ruminate over are no group at all, they are just separate people logging in to chat here. There is a more authentic you who has shown up here before you went off the rails last time. Put him on sometime and you might get different results. No one is gunna whip anyone's ass or triumph over anyone here. We are just talk'n past each other right now. Love, Ravi First step toward authenticity might be to drop the creepy tag line. Our posts are not expressions of love. We have a few overnight hikes to just make it to respectful. All the while perpetuating this clique, this white, mid-western, ole boy network. No matter how many times Barry and Curtis get humiliated by me, they are needy, clueless, shameless -- they will always manage to deceive, con, attract some innocent naive, gullible liberals, with their deceptive writing, the Xenos, the Susans, the Steves. But they will not fool the cogent, coherent, compelling Mavericks of this list, The Judy Stein's, The Robin Carlsen's, The Bob Price's of this list. I feel contempt and disgust for these two MF'ers - Curtis and Barry. I have no need to hide behind any political correctness, any white man's guilt, burden to call it as I see it and I spare none. My forefathers were equal opportunity racists, however a true Brahmin first works on his own biases, fears, insecurities, anxieties before going after others - he doesn't even spare his own family and I haven't - other than my sisters but such is the conditioning, love of an Indian brother. What's the most that one can do - kill me? I'll mock and laugh at my own body's frailty, fragility, even as I watch it wringing, writhing, agonizing in pain. And then the world will celebrate the glory of the only Brahmin of this world - Ravi Chivukula - his brutal-self honesty and integrity, his commitment to truth, his fearlessness that even death couldn't touch him. That's the Hindu metaphor of a Brahmin - nothing you can earn by birth, it's only accidental that I have been one. The kshatriyas(warriors, kings, administrators) of the past wouldn't touch such a Brahmin - because they knew he had conquered death, they would seek their advice, because they knew he would call it without any bias. Indians talk about a story of how Alexander the Great met such a Brahmin - it could just be a myth for all we know. Such a Brahmin can only be defeated by a woman - he has to be, it has to be so, so he learns to be ever humble, to be ever watchful, change, modify, finetune his behavior, his actions, his biases, his motivations - knowing that the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: If all else fails in life it's great to have someone to bash, particularily someone who's dead, don't you think ? Nab, I only wish your bashing had something creative about it, instead of the plain old, vile sort.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Curtis, And you will always be morally, spiritually , ethically bankrupt as long as you support Barry's antics. Your progressive values are always suspect. Psst. Ravi, you're not in India anymore, and you don't have take on the role of the British school marm, reprimanding the students, and telling them how to behave. India acheived her independence sometime back. You may feel you had street cred with some of the folks you hung with in the projects, but I think you're lacking it here, at least with me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Hard to really see the purpose in telling strangers on the internet to Fuck off and Die. That is kind of dark, even for me. But it does remind me that you are an ill-wisher and although the depth of your malice caught me off guard last time, I am much better prepared for you now. I have to disagree with your grandiose claim to some imaginary bigger fish to fry. In this discussion you were able to make a nasty insult to a stranger on a forum for people in a group you have no connection with. Making unpleasant statements like that IS your purpose for being here. It is pretty much all you have contributed here since you got back. Self-aggrandizing personal attacks on people you don't know, loaded with the personal charge of your own life's disappointments. There really should be a name for this Internet forum phenomenon, perhaps using figurative language that implies that one lives under a bridge in darkness, only to pop out with an incoherent attack when someone comes across I'll give it some thought I'm sure I can come up with something. This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, You are a sick, sly, SOB - proving you don't even have any semblance of self-dignity, a masochist..LOL..as Judy once said beautifully put..FOAD, I have bigger fish to fry. Love, Ravi On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: It's not the fact that he is just dead. Did Nabbie just change his handle here? You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. So you were hoping to argue with me about my opinions about a man you didn't know did ya? And you were thinking it might be inappropriate for me to voice opinions about him on a board devoted to those issues. Got it, I'm sure that all makes perfect sense in crazy world. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Yeah, well this is a TM and ex TM focused forum so you are gunna get some talk about the guy I would think. And I wasn't challenged on anything I said, it was just a general insult post like yours. I would welcome someone to challenge the meaning of what I wrote. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. Yeah, the judge got that one right. You yourself had the the temerity to brand Judy as being full of malice, of trying to slander you, man the gall, arrogance and the stupidity. I get it that this site is a soap opera vehicle for your own personal frustrations, but Judy has nothing to do with this exchange. If you are trying to insert yourself into long forgotten exchanges I had with her in the past you are being trollish, trying to get two other people to fight who have no current beef with each other. Now I see that with no TM background all you have to do here is shoot spitballs and hope they will get you noticed, but you aren't gunna get much traction on the train of don't talk about Maharishi here. I feel pity for your ass. No you don't. You feel resentment for your own personal life and you are trying to take that aggression out on strangers here, inserting yourself into conversations between people with actual skin in the game. I may disagree with Nabbie but he knew Maharishi and has earned his opinion about him as I have. You are just a troll looking for a fight about topics you know nothing about while hoping that by interjecting yourself into the personalities of the posters here you wont stick out so much. You are a tumbleweed of unfocused unpleasantness blowing through this group till you completely lose it and get booted off. Again. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing. What course was that on? I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness. I thought you guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between Marley's ghost and
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. That was my mistake last time Steve. I believed that. I appreciate your balancing comments and genuine affection for the guy though. I've got a harder climb on that score. My sights are just focused on containment of damage this time around. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Hard to really see the purpose in telling strangers on the internet to Fuck off and Die. That is kind of dark, even for me. But it does remind me that you are an ill-wisher and although the depth of your malice caught me off guard last time, I am much better prepared for you now. I have to disagree with your grandiose claim to some imaginary bigger fish to fry. In this discussion you were able to make a nasty insult to a stranger on a forum for people in a group you have no connection with. Making unpleasant statements like that IS your purpose for being here. It is pretty much all you have contributed here since you got back. Self-aggrandizing personal attacks on people you don't know, loaded with the personal charge of your own life's disappointments. There really should be a name for this Internet forum phenomenon, perhaps using figurative language that implies that one lives under a bridge in darkness, only to pop out with an incoherent attack when someone comes across I'll give it some thought I'm sure I can come up with something. This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, You are a sick, sly, SOB - proving you don't even have any semblance of self-dignity, a masochist..LOL..as Judy once said beautifully put..FOAD, I have bigger fish to fry. Love, Ravi On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: It's not the fact that he is just dead. Did Nabbie just change his handle here? You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. So you were hoping to argue with me about my opinions about a man you didn't know did ya? And you were thinking it might be inappropriate for me to voice opinions about him on a board devoted to those issues. Got it, I'm sure that all makes perfect sense in crazy world. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Yeah, well this is a TM and ex TM focused forum so you are gunna get some talk about the guy I would think. And I wasn't challenged on anything I said, it was just a general insult post like yours. I would welcome someone to challenge the meaning of what I wrote. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. Yeah, the judge got that one right. You yourself had the the temerity to brand Judy as being full of malice, of trying to slander you, man the gall, arrogance and the stupidity. I get it that this site is a soap opera vehicle for your own personal frustrations, but Judy has nothing to do with this exchange. If you are trying to insert yourself into long forgotten exchanges I had with her in the past you are being trollish, trying to get two other people to fight who have no current beef with each other. Now I see that with no TM background all you have to do here is shoot spitballs and hope they will get you noticed, but you aren't gunna get much traction on the train of don't talk about Maharishi here. I feel pity for your ass. No you don't. You feel resentment for your own personal life and you are trying to take that aggression out on strangers here, inserting yourself into conversations between people with actual skin in the game. I may disagree with Nabbie but he knew Maharishi and has earned his opinion about him as I have. You are just a troll looking for a fight about topics you know nothing about while hoping that by interjecting yourself into the personalities of the posters here you wont stick out so much. You are
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Dear Curtis: . . . . Love, Emily :) P.S. Don't lose that wicked sense of humor, now. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Curtis, I'm glad you latched on the arrogantly hating part - it was indeed for you and Barry to claim, you two - who are the apt metaphors for the Hindu demons - the demons symbolizing ignorance, deception among other things. OMG did you just pull an I know you are but what am I on me? Damn that is an old school smackdown. I know I can never stop your deception - you will always your captive audience. See here is where you kind of roll off the rails. You broke into Nabby's typical you are a hillbilly because you say bad things about Maharishi routine, but you don't know the Maharishi, you were just piling on because you sensed it was negative toward me. So your specific complaint here, what it is you are claiming I am deceptive about is lacking. Do you mean I am a deceiver the way George Bush identifies evil doers? It has a you are a poppy pants flabbiness that doesn't convey much more than I am unhappy and I want you to be too. My message was for the others on this list and the lurkers reading this - there are lots and lots of cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick free passes (not Dallas Mavericks, mind you) - lying around, hidden from your sight of course..LOL.. - it's their choice to pick it up or not. Right, you are playing to an imaginary crowd who is fascinated by a guy who never knew Maharishi, try to defend him by insulting a stranger while using Sarah Palin's tagline. I'm afraid you missed your chance for an audience unless you appear on a future episode of divorce court. I don't think there's any doubt about the nature of my brazen, outrageous, overt grandiosity and narcissism - that's the strength of my belief in my self-honesty and integrity. No, that hasn't been working for you for a long time Ravi. And now I'll be less flip with you. The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until they do, why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet no big deal. No one here is a rock star by any measure. We are just a bunch of people chatting. All those groups of people you ruminate over are no group at all, they are just separate people logging in to chat here. There is a more authentic you who has shown up here before you went off the rails last time. Put him on sometime and you might get different results. No one is gunna whip anyone's ass or triumph over anyone here. We are just talk'n past each other right now. Love, Ravi First step toward authenticity might be to drop the creepy tag line. Our posts are not expressions of love. We have a few overnight hikes to just make it to respectful. All the while perpetuating this clique, this white, mid-western, ole boy network. No matter how many times Barry and Curtis get humiliated by me, they are needy, clueless, shameless -- they will always manage to deceive, con, attract some innocent naive, gullible liberals, with their deceptive writing, the Xenos, the Susans, the Steves. But they will not fool the cogent, coherent, compelling Mavericks of this list, The Judy Stein's, The Robin Carlsen's, The Bob Price's of this list. I feel contempt and disgust for these two MF'ers - Curtis and Barry. I have no need to hide behind any political correctness, any white man's guilt, burden to call it as I see it and I spare none. My forefathers were equal opportunity racists, however a true Brahmin first works on his own biases, fears, insecurities, anxieties before going after others - he doesn't even spare his own family and I haven't - other than my sisters but such is the conditioning, love of an Indian brother. What's the most that one can do - kill me? I'll mock and laugh at my own body's frailty, fragility, even as I watch it wringing, writhing, agonizing in pain. And then the world will celebrate the glory of the only Brahmin of this world - Ravi Chivukula - his brutal-self honesty and integrity, his commitment to truth, his fearlessness that even death couldn't touch him. That's the Hindu metaphor of a Brahmin - nothing you can earn by birth, it's only accidental that I have been one. The kshatriyas(warriors, kings, administrators) of the past wouldn't touch such a Brahmin - because they knew he had conquered death, they would seek their advice, because they knew he would call it without any bias. Indians talk about a story of how Alexander the Great met such a Brahmin
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. That was my mistake last time Steve. I believed that. I appreciate your balancing comments and genuine affection for the guy though. I've got a harder climb on that score. My sights are just focused on containment of damage this time around. Your comment here Curtis to Ravi from a previous post, this puts things into the right perspective. The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until they do, why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet no big deal. And okay, I wasn't going to say this, but I guess I will. Driving back from Chicago, (I am glad my wife takes on most of the driving), and in between napping and eating sour lifesavers, I was thinking about the goings on on FFL. And am I crazy or what, but I was thinking, that as long as Ravi can follow the few rules we have here, maybe he can learn to converse in a more civil and balanced way. Maybe learn something about himself, and we can learn something from him. Some of us (I am a minor figure in this regard) will bear the brunt of his abuse, but maybe it might be worth the price is we can bring him closer to this end. Am I crazy or what. Do you see how easily I was swept into the idealism of MMY's World Plan. Jesus, I was all in. And yes, I do recognize that I am sounding like the British school marm. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Hard to really see the purpose in telling strangers on the internet to Fuck off and Die. That is kind of dark, even for me. But it does remind me that you are an ill-wisher and although the depth of your malice caught me off guard last time, I am much better prepared for you now. I have to disagree with your grandiose claim to some imaginary bigger fish to fry. In this discussion you were able to make a nasty insult to a stranger on a forum for people in a group you have no connection with. Making unpleasant statements like that IS your purpose for being here. It is pretty much all you have contributed here since you got back. Self-aggrandizing personal attacks on people you don't know, loaded with the personal charge of your own life's disappointments. There really should be a name for this Internet forum phenomenon, perhaps using figurative language that implies that one lives under a bridge in darkness, only to pop out with an incoherent attack when someone comes across I'll give it some thought I'm sure I can come up with something. This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, You are a sick, sly, SOB - proving you don't even have any semblance of self-dignity, a masochist..LOL..as Judy once said beautifully put..FOAD, I have bigger fish to fry. Love, Ravi On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: It's not the fact that he is just dead. Did Nabbie just change his handle here? You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. So you were hoping to argue with me about my opinions about a man you didn't know did ya? And you were thinking it might be inappropriate for me to voice opinions about him on a board devoted to those issues. Got it, I'm sure that all makes perfect sense in crazy world. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Yeah, well this is a TM and ex TM focused forum so you are gunna get some talk about the guy I would think. And I wasn't challenged on anything I said, it was just a general insult post like yours. I would welcome someone to challenge the meaning of what I wrote. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. Yeah, the judge got that one right.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
On Sep 3, 2012, at 6:46 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. That was my mistake last time Steve. I believed that. I appreciate your balancing comments and genuine affection for the guy though. I've got a harder climb on that score. My sights are just focused on containment of damage this time around. Containment of damage..LOL, a rare peek into your honesty, rather than your usual dishonesty and deception - love it 'bro. This is exactly what you did last time as well, your dishonesty, tricks, sleight of hands twisting it are very amusing. I'm enjoying my stroll on Torrey Pines and your hard breathing is irritating me, I for a moment thought it was the rumbling of the ocean or the rumbling of the Amtrak Coaster, so just chillax. P.S. Accusing me of being Bush and Palin is not cutting it 'bro - everyone here knows my contempt and hostility for all conservatives - Indian or American, as they are dismissed with my polite, playful trickery. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Hard to really see the purpose in telling strangers on the internet to Fuck off and Die. That is kind of dark, even for me. But it does remind me that you are an ill-wisher and although the depth of your malice caught me off guard last time, I am much better prepared for you now. I have to disagree with your grandiose claim to some imaginary bigger fish to fry. In this discussion you were able to make a nasty insult to a stranger on a forum for people in a group you have no connection with. Making unpleasant statements like that IS your purpose for being here. It is pretty much all you have contributed here since you got back. Self-aggrandizing personal attacks on people you don't know, loaded with the personal charge of your own life's disappointments. There really should be a name for this Internet forum phenomenon, perhaps using figurative language that implies that one lives under a bridge in darkness, only to pop out with an incoherent attack when someone comes across I'll give it some thought I'm sure I can come up with something. This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, You are a sick, sly, SOB - proving you don't even have any semblance of self-dignity, a masochist..LOL..as Judy once said beautifully put..FOAD, I have bigger fish to fry. Love, Ravi On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: It's not the fact that he is just dead. Did Nabbie just change his handle here? You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - that man is at least dead, you are alive. So you were hoping to argue with me about my opinions about a man you didn't know did ya? And you were thinking it might be inappropriate for me to voice opinions about him on a board devoted to those issues. Got it, I'm sure that all makes perfect sense in crazy world. Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your fixation on him. What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can continue your fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not being called on it every time you do that. Yeah, well this is a TM and ex TM focused forum so you are gunna get some talk about the guy I would think. And I wasn't challenged on anything I said, it was just a general insult post like yours. I would welcome someone to challenge the meaning of what I wrote. Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are rehabilitating, good we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally demented, deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day in and day out, abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year old paranoid, delusional, narcissistic fantasies. Yeah, the judge got that one right. You yourself had the the temerity to brand Judy as being full of malice, of trying to slander you, man the gall, arrogance and the stupidity. I get it that this site is a soap opera vehicle for your own personal frustrations, but Judy has nothing to do with this exchange. If you are trying to insert yourself into long forgotten exchanges I had with her in the past you are being trollish, trying to get two other
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: I was thinking about the goings on on FFL. And am I crazy or what, but I was thinking, that as long as Ravi can follow the few rules we have here, maybe he can learn to converse in a more civil and balanced way. Maybe learn something about himself, and we can learn something from him. Some of us (I am a minor figure in this regard) will bear the brunt of his abuse, but maybe it might be worth the price is we can bring him closer to this end. Am I crazy or what. No, you aren't crazy, you are expressing a normal level of compassion for your fellow man and I dig it. Unfortunately this is not a level playing field in this regard, so the hope for reciprocity may be ill founded. But I dig your default position and I shared it last time around. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. My re-frame is that this is the price for freedom and I am willing to pay it. But I don't intend for it to spin out of control again with me asleep at the wheel waiting for normalcy to reign. I don't see the added value, but others do, so as long as he can stay within some pretty liberal rules of propriety, him being here is none of my business. But the old dog has to keep himself entertained while he sleeps with one eye opened doesn't he? I appreciate that you are getting all this and again, you are a decent well-wisher. Always have been as long as I've known you here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. That was my mistake last time Steve. I believed that. I appreciate your balancing comments and genuine affection for the guy though. I've got a harder climb on that score. My sights are just focused on containment of damage this time around. Your comment here Curtis to Ravi from a previous post, this puts things into the right perspective. The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until they do, why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet no big deal. And okay, I wasn't going to say this, but I guess I will. Driving back from Chicago, (I am glad my wife takes on most of the driving), and in between napping and eating sour lifesavers, I was thinking about the goings on on FFL. And am I crazy or what, but I was thinking, that as long as Ravi can follow the few rules we have here, maybe he can learn to converse in a more civil and balanced way. Maybe learn something about himself, and we can learn something from him. Some of us (I am a minor figure in this regard) will bear the brunt of his abuse, but maybe it might be worth the price is we can bring him closer to this end. Am I crazy or what. Do you see how easily I was swept into the idealism of MMY's World Plan. Jesus, I was all in. And yes, I do recognize that I am sounding like the British school marm. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Hard to really see the purpose in telling strangers on the internet to Fuck off and Die. That is kind of dark, even for me. But it does remind me that you are an ill-wisher and although the depth of your malice caught me off guard last time, I am much better prepared for you now. I have to disagree with your grandiose claim to some imaginary bigger fish to fry. In this discussion you were able to make a nasty insult to a stranger on a forum for people in a group you have no connection with. Making unpleasant statements like that IS your purpose for being here. It is pretty much all you have contributed here since you got back. Self-aggrandizing personal attacks on people you don't know, loaded with the personal charge of your own life's disappointments. There really should be a name for this Internet forum phenomenon, perhaps using figurative language that implies that one lives under a bridge in darkness, only to pop out with an incoherent attack when someone comes across I'll give it some thought I'm sure I can come up with something. This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, You are a sick, sly, SOB - proving you don't even have any semblance of self-dignity, a masochist..LOL..as Judy once said beautifully put..FOAD, I have bigger fish to fry. Love, Ravi On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Curtis: . . . . Love, Emily :) P.S.  Don't lose that wicked sense of humor, now.  Oh now don't YOU start too! \ From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, I'm glad you latched on the arrogantly hating part - it was indeed for you and Barry to claim, you two - who are the apt metaphors for the Hindu demons - the demons symbolizing ignorance, deception among other things. OMG did you just pull an I know you are but what am I on me? Damn that is an old school smackdown. I know I can never stop your deception - you will always your captive audience. See here is where you kind of roll off the rails. You broke into Nabby's typical you are a hillbilly because you say bad things about Maharishi routine, but you don't know the Maharishi, you were just piling on because you sensed it was negative toward me. So your specific complaint here, what it is you are claiming I am deceptive about is lacking. Do you mean I am a deceiver the way George Bush identifies evil doers? It has a you are a poppy pants flabbiness that doesn't convey much more than I am unhappy and I want you to be too. My message was for the others on this list and the lurkers reading this - there are lots and lots of cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick free passes (not Dallas Mavericks, mind you) - lying around, hidden from your sight of course..LOL.. - it's their choice to pick it up or not. Right, you are playing to an imaginary crowd who is fascinated by a guy who never knew Maharishi, try to defend him by insulting a stranger while using Sarah Palin's tagline. I'm afraid you missed your chance for an audience unless you appear on a future episode of divorce court. I don't think there's any doubt about the nature of my brazen, outrageous, overt grandiosity and narcissism - that's the strength of my belief in my self-honesty and integrity. No, that hasn't been working for you for a long time Ravi. And now I'll be less flip with you. The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until they do, why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet no big deal. No one here is a rock star by any measure. We are just a bunch of people chatting. All those groups of people you ruminate over are no group at all, they are just separate people logging in to chat here. There is a more authentic you who has shown up here before you went off the rails last time. Put him on sometime and you might get different results. No one is gunna whip anyone's ass or triumph over anyone here. We are just talk'n past each other right now. Love, Ravi First step toward authenticity might be to drop the creepy tag line. Our posts are not expressions of love. We have a few overnight hikes to just make it to respectful. All the while perpetuating this clique, this white, mid-western, ole boy network. No matter how many times Barry and Curtis get humiliated by me, they are needy, clueless, shameless -- they will always manage to deceive, con, attract some innocent naive, gullible liberals, with their deceptive writing, the Xenos, the Susans, the Steves. But they will not fool the cogent, coherent, compelling Mavericks of this list, The Judy Stein's, The Robin Carlsen's, The Bob Price's of this list. I feel contempt and disgust for these two MF'ers - Curtis and Barry. I have no need to hide behind any political correctness, any white man's guilt, burden to call it as I see it and I spare none. My forefathers were equal opportunity racists, however a true Brahmin first works on his own biases, fears, insecurities, anxieties before going after others - he doesn't even spare his own family and I haven't - other than my sisters but such is the conditioning, love of an Indian brother. What's the most that one can do - kill me? I'll mock and laugh at my own body's frailty, fragility, even as I watch it wringing, writhing, agonizing in pain. And then the world will celebrate the glory of the only Brahmin of this world - Ravi Chivukula - his brutal-self honesty and integrity, his commitment to truth, his fearlessness that even death couldn't touch him. That's the Hindu metaphor of a Brahmin - nothing you can earn by birth, it's only accidental that I have been one. The kshatriyas(warriors, kings, administrators
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
I subscribe to the idea that one should always sleep with one eye open. But, then again, I lack trust and am a somewhat suspicious woman who's been burned at the stake more than once, so to speak. I wear a crown of thorns around my heart for protection, mind you and I'm liable to say fuck you as easily as I say love you. From a man's perspective, don't they both mean the same thing? Now, I have to get back to responding to Robin...where was I? Oh yeah, it's all about experienceobjective or subjectively interpreted, conditioned of course by my postmodern upbringing. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Curtis: . . . . Love, Emily :) P.S.  Don't lose that wicked sense of humor, now.  Oh now don't YOU start too! \ From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, I'm glad you latched on the arrogantly hating part - it was indeed for you and Barry to claim, you two - who are the apt metaphors for the Hindu demons - the demons symbolizing ignorance, deception among other things. OMG did you just pull an I know you are but what am I on me? Damn that is an old school smackdown. I know I can never stop your deception - you will always your captive audience. See here is where you kind of roll off the rails. You broke into Nabby's typical you are a hillbilly because you say bad things about Maharishi routine, but you don't know the Maharishi, you were just piling on because you sensed it was negative toward me. So your specific complaint here, what it is you are claiming I am deceptive about is lacking. Do you mean I am a deceiver the way George Bush identifies evil doers? It has a you are a poppy pants flabbiness that doesn't convey much more than I am unhappy and I want you to be too. My message was for the others on this list and the lurkers reading this - there are lots and lots of cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick free passes (not Dallas Mavericks, mind you) - lying around, hidden from your sight of course..LOL.. - it's their choice to pick it up or not. Right, you are playing to an imaginary crowd who is fascinated by a guy who never knew Maharishi, try to defend him by insulting a stranger while using Sarah Palin's tagline. I'm afraid you missed your chance for an audience unless you appear on a future episode of divorce court. I don't think there's any doubt about the nature of my brazen, outrageous, overt grandiosity and narcissism - that's the strength of my belief in my self-honesty and integrity. No, that hasn't been working for you for a long time Ravi. And now I'll be less flip with you. The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until they do, why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet no big deal. No one here is a rock star by any measure. We are just a bunch of people chatting. All those groups of people you ruminate over are no group at all, they are just separate people logging in to chat here. There is a more authentic you who has shown up here before you went off the rails last time. Put him on sometime and you might get different results. No one is gunna whip anyone's ass or triumph over anyone here. We are just talk'n past each other right now. Love, Ravi First step toward authenticity might be to drop the creepy tag line. Our posts are not expressions of love. We have a few overnight hikes to just make it to respectful. All the while perpetuating this clique, this white, mid-western, ole boy network. No matter how many times Barry and Curtis get humiliated by me, they are needy, clueless, shameless -- they will always manage to deceive, con, attract some innocent naive, gullible liberals, with their deceptive writing, the Xenos, the Susans, the Steves. But they will not fool the cogent, coherent, compelling Mavericks of this list, The Judy Stein's, The Robin Carlsen's, The Bob Price's of this list. I feel contempt and disgust for these two MF'ers - Curtis and Barry. I have no need to hide behind any political correctness, any white man's guilt, burden to call it as I see it and I spare none. My forefathers were equal opportunity racists, however a true Brahmin first works on his own biases
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I subscribe to the idea that one should always sleep with one eye open.  But, then again, I lack trust and am a somewhat suspicious woman who's been burned at the stake more than once, so to speak.  I wear a crown of thorns around my heart for protection, mind you and I'm liable to say fuck you as easily as I say love you.  From a man's perspective, don't they both mean the same thing?  Now, I have to get back to responding to Robin...where was I?  Oh yeah, it's all about experienceobjective or subjectively interpreted, conditioned of course by my postmodern upbringing.  When in doubt, just throw in first person ontology. I still haven't figured out what it is. I suspect there's a better way of saying. But it sounds important. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Curtis: . . . . Love, Emily :) P.S. àDon't lose that wicked sense of humor, now. àOh now don't YOU start too! \ From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, I'm glad you latched on the arrogantly hating part - it was indeed for you and Barry to claim, you two - who are the apt metaphors for the Hindu demons - the demons symbolizing ignorance, deception among other things. OMG did you just pull an I know you are but what am I on me? Damn that is an old school smackdown. I know I can never stop your deception - you will always your captive audience. See here is where you kind of roll off the rails. You broke into Nabby's typical you are a hillbilly because you say bad things about Maharishi routine, but you don't know the Maharishi, you were just piling on because you sensed it was negative toward me. So your specific complaint here, what it is you are claiming I am deceptive about is lacking. Do you mean I am a deceiver the way George Bush identifies evil doers? It has a you are a poppy pants flabbiness that doesn't convey much more than I am unhappy and I want you to be too. My message was for the others on this list and the lurkers reading this - there are lots and lots of cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick free passes (not Dallas Mavericks, mind you) - lying around, hidden from your sight of course..LOL.. - it's their choice to pick it up or not. Right, you are playing to an imaginary crowd who is fascinated by a guy who never knew Maharishi, try to defend him by insulting a stranger while using Sarah Palin's tagline. I'm afraid you missed your chance for an audience unless you appear on a future episode of divorce court. I don't think there's any doubt about the nature of my brazen, outrageous, overt grandiosity and narcissism - that's the strength of my belief in my self-honesty and integrity. No, that hasn't been working for you for a long time Ravi. And now I'll be less flip with you. The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until they do, why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet no big deal. No one here is a rock star by any measure. We are just a bunch of people chatting. All those groups of people you ruminate over are no group at all, they are just separate people logging in to chat here. There is a more authentic you who has shown up here before you went off the rails last time. Put him on sometime and you might get different results. No one is gunna whip anyone's ass or triumph over anyone here. We are just talk'n past each other right now. Love, Ravi First step toward authenticity might be to drop the creepy tag line. Our posts are not expressions of love. We have a few overnight hikes to just make it to respectful. All the while perpetuating this clique, this white, mid-western, ole boy network. No matter how many times Barry and Curtis get humiliated by me, they are needy, clueless, shameless -- they will always manage to deceive, con, attract some innocent naive, gullible liberals, with their deceptive writing, the Xenos, the Susans, the Steves. But they will not fool the cogent, coherent, compelling Mavericks of this list, The Judy Stein's, The Robin Carlsen's, The Bob Price's of this list. I feel contempt and disgust for these two MF'ers - Curtis and Barry. I have no need to hide
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
Right. Thanks. I agree with you. I look that up on a regular basis. (P.S. I'm just trying to throw the Intrepid Robin off-track). From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I subscribe to the idea that one should always sleep with one eye open.  But, then again, I lack trust and am a somewhat suspicious woman who's been burned at the stake more than once, so to speak.  I wear a crown of thorns around my heart for protection, mind you and I'm liable to say fuck you as easily as I say love you.  From a man's perspective, don't they both mean the same thing?  Now, I have to get back to responding to Robin...where was I?  Oh yeah, it's all about experienceobjective or subjectively interpreted, conditioned of course by my postmodern upbringing.  When in doubt, just throw in first person ontology. I still haven't figured out what it is. I suspect there's a better way of saying. But it sounds important. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Curtis: . . . . Love, Emily :) P.S.  Don't lose that wicked sense of humor, now.  Oh now don't YOU start too! \ From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Curtis, I'm glad you latched on the arrogantly hating part - it was indeed for you and Barry to claim, you two - who are the apt metaphors for the Hindu demons - the demons symbolizing ignorance, deception among other things. OMG did you just pull an I know you are but what am I on me? Damn that is an old school smackdown. I know I can never stop your deception - you will always your captive audience. See here is where you kind of roll off the rails. You broke into Nabby's typical you are a hillbilly because you say bad things about Maharishi routine, but you don't know the Maharishi, you were just piling on because you sensed it was negative toward me. So your specific complaint here, what it is you are claiming I am deceptive about is lacking. Do you mean I am a deceiver the way George Bush identifies evil doers? It has a you are a poppy pants flabbiness that doesn't convey much more than I am unhappy and I want you to be too. My message was for the others on this list and the lurkers reading this - there are lots and lots of cogent, coherent, compelling Maverick free passes (not Dallas Mavericks, mind you) - lying around, hidden from your sight of course..LOL.. - it's their choice to pick it up or not. Right, you are playing to an imaginary crowd who is fascinated by a guy who never knew Maharishi, try to defend him by insulting a stranger while using Sarah Palin's tagline. I'm afraid you missed your chance for an audience unless you appear on a future episode of divorce court. I don't think there's any doubt about the nature of my brazen, outrageous, overt grandiosity and narcissism - that's the strength of my belief in my self-honesty and integrity. No, that hasn't been working for you for a long time Ravi. And now I'll be less flip with you. The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until they do, why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet no big deal. No one here is a rock star by any measure. We are just a bunch of people chatting. All those groups of people you ruminate over are no group at all, they are just separate people logging in to chat here. There is a more authentic you who has shown up here before you went off the rails last time. Put him on sometime and you might get different results. No one is gunna whip anyone's ass or triumph over anyone here. We are just talk'n past each other right now. Love, Ravi First step toward authenticity might be to drop the creepy tag line. Our posts are not expressions of love. We have a few overnight hikes to just make it to respectful. All the while perpetuating this clique, this white, mid-western, ole boy network. No matter how many times Barry and Curtis get humiliated by me
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. That was my mistake last time Steve. I believed that. I appreciate your balancing comments and genuine affection for the guy though. I've got a harder climb on that score. My sights are just focused on containment of damage this time around. As long as we've stopped pulling punches, we might as well lay the blame for Ravi having once again disrupted this forum and brought it down to his level where it belongs -- with Rick. Rick has now -- possibly in an attempt to be the nice guy he'd like to be perceived as -- allowed two people who would be better placed in mental hospitals to roam around here free, declaring their Enemies Lists, making actual threats, and most important, *getting worse themselves*. Is there any *question* that Ravi has grown more insane since returning to FFL, and being placed in a position of being able once again to troll for other people's attention? Is there any *question* that Dan Friedman has done the same thing, and is at this point dangerous to himself and others. All of this because Rick wants to be a nice guy rather than actually PAY SOME ATTENTION to what is happening on the forum he created, and what the crazy trolls are doing to it. Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. My bet is that Ravi was allowed to come back on the condition that he not start attacking Curtis and other people again, and that Dan was allowed to stay on the condition that he stop making threats of actual, physical violence against people here. Do you think either of those things happened? It's sad to see this place returned to the snake pit it was a few months ago. It's even sadder to realize that on some level the reason it has is that Rick seems to prefer it that way.
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Ha ha ha Barry, you are cracking me up. I'm attacking your hypocrisy, your deception, your cliques, your abuses, your taunting, your homophobic, misogynist nonsense disguised under your deceptive writings. No, Rick and Alex will do no such thing, because nothing has been done against the rules of this list other than your and Curtis's deception being exposed. Man you clueless, shameless, needy, drama queens. Disgusting, sickening, pitiful stuff. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 10:19 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. That was my mistake last time Steve. I believed that. I appreciate your balancing comments and genuine affection for the guy though. I've got a harder climb on that score. My sights are just focused on containment of damage this time around. As long as we've stopped pulling punches, we might as well lay the blame for Ravi having once again disrupted this forum and brought it down to his level where it belongs -- with Rick. Rick has now -- possibly in an attempt to be the nice guy he'd like to be perceived as -- allowed two people who would be better placed in mental hospitals to roam around here free, declaring their Enemies Lists, making actual threats, and most important, *getting worse themselves*. Is there any *question* that Ravi has grown more insane since returning to FFL, and being placed in a position of being able once again to troll for other people's attention? Is there any *question* that Dan Friedman has done the same thing, and is at this point dangerous to himself and others. All of this because Rick wants to be a nice guy rather than actually PAY SOME ATTENTION to what is happening on the forum he created, and what the crazy trolls are doing to it. Alex, you were possibly privy to any agreement between Rick and Ravi, and Rick and Dan, trying to get them to keep their shit in their pants and not fling it around like monkeys. My bet is that Ravi was allowed to come back on the condition that he not start attacking Curtis and other people again, and that Dan was allowed to stay on the condition that he stop making threats of actual, physical violence against people here. Do you think either of those things happened? It's sad to see this place returned to the snake pit it was a few months ago. It's even sadder to realize that on some level the reason it has is that Rick seems to prefer it that way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
All of this writing just *has* to be a book, Curtis. The world really needs it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D enriched milk, and tons of confidence to project a beamer of a smile full of orthodontist approved, well-flossed teeth. She was around eleven. Her brown hair was pulled into a loose pony tail by some fluorescent pink scrunchy fabric. The only thing out of the ordinary was that she crowded me a bit after she got her maraca. Younger kids will do this, and as the Mayor of Munchkin Land, it is up to me to get them to back off and give me some performance space. Decking one of the kids with my heavy steel resonator guitar in one of my tip inspiring flourishes, leaving them cold cocked on the boardwalk, would definitely cut into profits. But a girl this age usually keeps her distance, so it got my attention that she was standing very close to me with one side of her body. I swiveled my head and my eyes caught something that instantly put me on red alert. The arm she was crowding me with was cut off right below the elbow and she was using me to shield it from the audience. Her arm was not this way from birth. Something sinister and terrible had done this, and it left a fiery red zipper of violated flesh. Our eyes met and I gave her a nod. We were thick as thieves in an instant and she relaxed into a nervous giggle. Like a Sicilian made-man, I was bonded to her through omerta. It was a matter of trust, and I felt it in my chest. We began to play close like Sonny and a miniature Cher. People probably thought she was my niece or something, who else would play together with this familiarity? Her father was all smiles. She was a brave kid, this is not easy performing in front of strangers. A crowd formed supporting the cute little girl and the bluesman. They had no clue to the fierceness of her jagged asymmetry. She kept herself sideways, showing the world who she wanted to be, and they bought it. At the song's end she shot me a conspiratorial look. I sensed something gritty in those eyes. A steeliness forged by the fires of pediatric ward hell. I wondered about her mom and dad, who had spent the hours in the hospital making the painful decisions that lead to this. Oh bullshit, I have no idea. She ran off back to her dad. His look combined sincere thanks with you have no idea. Or maybe I just read all that in myself, it is so hard to tell sometimes. When our eyes met I forgot to breath for a moment. I saw people moving in with tips in slow motion. Someday I hope she finds a real stand up guy. A guy who will always take her left side, and wrapping his arm around her far shoulder, will press her close, feeling her arm halfway across his own back, and she will feel safe and brave, facing the world.
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The Good Doctor observes: Another great piece of writing, Curtis! The world really needs it. -- one slight, but significant, correction here by Doctor Dumbass: Your world, Barry, needs it. Not mine. My world is not populated by the groups and cliques and false teachers of the blind and dumb, as yours is. My world is filled with happy, bright, insightful, intelligent, and independent souls, every one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: All of this writing just *has* to be a book, Curtis. The world really needs it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D enriched milk, and tons of confidence to project a beamer of a smile full of orthodontist approved, well-flossed teeth. She was around eleven. Her brown hair was pulled into a loose pony tail by some fluorescent pink scrunchy fabric. The only thing out of the ordinary was that she crowded me a bit after she got her maraca. Younger kids will do this, and as the Mayor of Munchkin Land, it is up to me to get them to back off and give me some performance space. Decking one of the kids with my heavy steel resonator guitar in one of my tip inspiring flourishes, leaving them cold cocked on the boardwalk, would definitely cut into profits. But a girl this age usually keeps her distance, so it got my attention that she was standing very close to me with one side of her body. I swiveled my head and my eyes caught something that instantly put me on red alert. The arm she was crowding me with was cut off right below the elbow and she was using me to shield it from the audience. Her arm was not this way from birth. Something sinister and terrible had done this, and it left a fiery red zipper of violated flesh. Our eyes met and I gave her a nod. We were thick as thieves in an instant and she relaxed into a nervous giggle. Like a Sicilian made-man, I was bonded to her through omerta. It was a matter of trust, and I felt it in my chest. We began to play close like Sonny and a miniature Cher. People probably thought she was my niece or something, who else would play together with this familiarity? Her father was all smiles. She was a brave kid, this is not easy performing in front of strangers. A crowd formed supporting the cute little girl and the bluesman. They had no clue to the fierceness of her jagged asymmetry. She kept herself sideways, showing the world who she wanted to be, and they bought it. At the song's end she shot me a conspiratorial look. I sensed something gritty in those eyes. A steeliness forged by the fires of pediatric ward hell. I wondered about her mom and dad, who had spent the hours in the hospital making the painful decisions that lead to this. Oh bullshit, I have no idea. She ran off back to her dad. His look combined sincere thanks with you have no idea. Or maybe I just read all that in myself, it is so hard to tell sometimes. When our eyes met I forgot to breath for a moment. I saw people moving in with tips in slow motion. Someday I hope she finds a real stand up guy. A guy who will always take her left side, and wrapping his arm around her far shoulder, will press her close, feeling her arm halfway across his own back, and she will feel safe and brave, facing the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: All of this writing just *has* to be a book, Curtis. The world really needs it. Thanks for the encouragement Barry. I don't think I have found my market focus for a book yet, but it is fun to send these out and I really appreciate the positive vibes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D enriched milk, and tons of confidence to project a beamer of a smile full of orthodontist approved, well-flossed teeth. She was around eleven. Her brown hair was pulled into a loose pony tail by some fluorescent pink scrunchy fabric. The only thing out of the ordinary was that she crowded me a bit after she got her maraca. Younger kids will do this, and as the Mayor of Munchkin Land, it is up to me to get them to back off and give me some performance space. Decking one of the kids with my heavy steel resonator guitar in one of my tip inspiring flourishes, leaving them cold cocked on the boardwalk, would definitely cut into profits. But a girl this age usually keeps her distance, so it got my attention that she was standing very close to me with one side of her body. I swiveled my head and my eyes caught something that instantly put me on red alert. The arm she was crowding me with was cut off right below the elbow and she was using me to shield it from the audience. Her arm was not this way from birth. Something sinister and terrible had done this, and it left a fiery red zipper of violated flesh. Our eyes met and I gave her a nod. We were thick as thieves in an instant and she relaxed into a nervous giggle. Like a Sicilian made-man, I was bonded to her through omerta. It was a matter of trust, and I felt it in my chest. We began to play close like Sonny and a miniature Cher. People probably thought she was my niece or something, who else would play together with this familiarity? Her father was all smiles. She was a brave kid, this is not easy performing in front of strangers. A crowd formed supporting the cute little girl and the bluesman. They had no clue to the fierceness of her jagged asymmetry. She kept herself sideways, showing the world who she wanted to be, and they bought it. At the song's end she shot me a conspiratorial look. I sensed something gritty in those eyes. A steeliness forged by the fires of pediatric ward hell. I wondered about her mom and dad, who had spent the hours in the hospital making the painful decisions that lead to this. Oh bullshit, I have no idea. She ran off back to her dad. His look combined sincere thanks with you have no idea. Or maybe I just read all that in myself, it is so hard to tell sometimes. When our eyes met I forgot to breath for a moment. I saw people moving in with tips in slow motion. Someday I hope she finds a real stand up guy. A guy who will always take her left side, and wrapping his arm around her far shoulder, will press her close, feeling her arm halfway across his own back, and she will feel safe and brave, facing the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: All of this writing just *has* to be a book, Curtis. The world really needs it. Thanks for the encouragement Barry. I don't think I have found my market focus for a book yet, but it is fun to send these out and I really appreciate the positive vibes. I honestly think that what would make the book marketable is that you're writing it *without a market in mind*. What would appeal to people about it -- with a photo of the author and his music setup on the cover, of course -- is its essential authenticity. There is a very *real* voice here, one that makes no concessions to a perceived audience or market, and one that feels no need to pull punches, whether it comes to either the gritty stuff or the sublime stuff. Your writing strikes me as the literary equivalent of your music. And I think you know that I mean that as a high compliment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
The dear doctor seems to be operating a little closer to the bone this morning. Next, it will be open heart or brain surgery. May I watch? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: The Good Doctor observes: Another great piece of writing, Curtis! The world really needs it. -- one slight, but significant, correction here by Doctor Dumbass: Your world, Barry, needs it. Not mine. My world is not populated by the groups and cliques and false teachers of the blind and dumb, as yours is. My world is filled with happy, bright, insightful, intelligent, and independent souls, every one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: All of this writing just *has* to be a book, Curtis. The world really needs it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D enriched milk, and tons of confidence to project a beamer of a smile full of orthodontist approved, well-flossed teeth. She was around eleven. Her brown hair was pulled into a loose pony tail by some fluorescent pink scrunchy fabric. The only thing out of the ordinary was that she crowded me a bit after she got her maraca. Younger kids will do this, and as the Mayor of Munchkin Land, it is up to me to get them to back off and give me some performance space. Decking one of the kids with my heavy steel resonator guitar in one of my tip inspiring flourishes, leaving them cold cocked on the boardwalk, would definitely cut into profits. But a girl this age usually keeps her distance, so it got my attention that she was standing very close to me with one side of her body. I swiveled my head and my eyes caught something that instantly put me on red alert. The arm she was crowding me with was cut off right below the elbow and she was using me to shield it from the audience. Her arm was not this way from birth. Something sinister and terrible had done this, and it left a fiery red zipper of violated flesh. Our eyes met and I gave her a nod. We were thick as thieves in an instant and she relaxed into a nervous giggle. Like a Sicilian made-man, I was bonded to her through omerta. It was a matter of trust, and I felt it in my chest. We began to play close like Sonny and a miniature Cher. People probably thought she was my niece or something, who else would play together with this familiarity? Her father was all smiles. She was a brave kid, this is not easy performing in front of strangers. A crowd formed supporting the cute little girl and the bluesman. They had no clue to the fierceness of her jagged asymmetry. She kept herself sideways, showing the world who she wanted to be, and they bought it. At the song's end she shot me a conspiratorial look. I sensed something gritty in those eyes. A steeliness forged by the fires of pediatric ward hell. I wondered about her mom and dad, who had spent the hours in the hospital making the painful decisions that lead to this. Oh bullshit, I have no idea. She ran off back to her dad. His look combined sincere thanks with you have no idea. Or maybe I just read all that in myself, it is so hard to tell sometimes. When our eyes met I forgot to breath for a moment. I saw people moving in with tips in slow motion. Someday I hope she finds a real stand up guy. A guy who will always take her left side, and wrapping his arm around her far shoulder, will press her close, feeling her arm halfway across his own back, and she will feel safe and brave, facing the world.
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Thanks Barry, I appreciate the advice about not trying to be too clever for a specific market. Actually that was excellent advice to just find my own voice and let her rip, some will dig it and some will hate it and most wont give a shit. Thanks for the useful advice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: All of this writing just *has* to be a book, Curtis. The world really needs it. Thanks for the encouragement Barry. I don't think I have found my market focus for a book yet, but it is fun to send these out and I really appreciate the positive vibes. I honestly think that what would make the book marketable is that you're writing it *without a market in mind*. What would appeal to people about it -- with a photo of the author and his music setup on the cover, of course -- is its essential authenticity. There is a very *real* voice here, one that makes no concessions to a perceived audience or market, and one that feels no need to pull punches, whether it comes to either the gritty stuff or the sublime stuff. Your writing strikes me as the literary equivalent of your music. And I think you know that I mean that as a high compliment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: As a boy on Nantucket I spent a lot of time picking out sperm whale's teeth to buy. This was before the ban and they were cheap enough for my thin wallet. My dad took up the arcane art of scrimshaw and I have a few beautifully etched teeth telling the story of the ill fated Essex where a particularly ambitious whale turned the tables and with whatever is the blow hole equivalent of no, no fuck YOU crashed the boat to splinters. Curtis, given the wonderful way you describe the early history of American whaling, I have to think that you'd really enjoy the new BBC America series Copper. NOT that there is any whaling in it; it's set in New York City's Five Points, possibly not the biggest American whaling port. But it's a story told -- both visually and in dialogue -- as vividly as your descriptions of what a Nantucket Sleigh Ride is, and the whale-sized balls of the men who took such rides. Copper is about Irish-Americans in the years following the riots portrayed in Scorcese's Gangs Of New York. Our heroes are the Good Guys of the NYC police force, which means that they try to murder only the people who deserve it, not the ones who don't. As I've said here before but you might have missed, being in lurk mode and all, I compare it favorably with Deadwood. That is -- coming from me -- a high compliment. *Especially* because Copper was done on probably a tenth or twentieth of that show's budget. I was never into whaling lore, but for about a year I lived out on Marblehead Neck, near Boston. It was very near Salem, MA, home of the Salem witch trials, and a museum to them. In it you could read -- on the original parchments, written in the original hands of the people who wrote them -- the court records of the men who pressed to death quite a few women for the crime of...uh...not being the kind of women they were expected to be. Nothing more. The museum also contained a few implements that these fine, upstanding men used to extract confessions from the women in question. Some of them make the whaling tools you described sound benevolent and compassionate in comparison.
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Heart of Gold, dear Curtis. And wonderful writer. I am compelled to read and finish each piece. Enjoy the process, and save them up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7dSTdHziMs So uh...let's see now...mmm...you are making the connection between...uh uh well I guess you could be...no...could the white whale be...that doesn't seem like it could...well maybe if you were looking at it from the perspective of...no that seems unlikely...a whale is not a fish so... OK, you got me. Funny you should bring up whaling because outside the context of what I wrote it makes so much sense you might be able to claim it was all a psychic vision about me. You see I vacationed on Nantucket Island off the coast of Cape Cod for many years and was well infused growing up with the history of what was arguably the most important industry in American History, our own Saudi Arabian liquid gold, whale oil. It literally lit up our nation. This week in cleaning out our ancestral house with my siblings I took home whaling harpoons that my father had carefully tied ropes onto, duplicating the complicated knots he studied at the Nantucket whaling museum. I spent hours there as a ten year old staring at real shrunken heads and thumb screws and other devices designed to bring discipline to the motley eclectic crew on a whaling ship that could spend up to three years to find and process whales, before returning home to their opium addicted wives on Nantucket. These ships were a model of multiracial and multicultural society way before their time. There is a great movie on streaming Netflix telling the story of this history that I recommend: American Experience, Into the Deep As a boy on Nantucket I spent a lot of time picking out sperm whale's teeth to buy. This was before the ban and they were cheap enough for my thin wallet. My dad took up the arcane art of scrimshaw and I have a few beautifully etched teeth telling the story of the ill fated Essex where a particularly ambitious whale turned the tables and with whatever is the blow hole equivalent of no, no fuck YOU crashed the boat to splinters. Nantucket was the whaling hub, the center of the universe long before it became a place where the hoity and the toity could stock up on highball glasses etched with sailing ships. What that promo showed very well was how audacious it was to spear one of these massive creatures and go on a Nantucket sleigh ride until it tired enough for them to get close in their tiny boat. What they got wrong was how many spears they threw into it as if that was supposed to kill the whale. What really happened was that after the whale got tired pulling the boat along and they got close, they used a long lance that was plunged over five feet into the whale to hit its heart. I have one of those now too. I am hoping to use it on a home intruder some day as a distraction while I dispatch him with my Walther. I also have a Masey Toggle Iron which was the height of whale technology. It was a spear that once inside the whale toggled outward to set the lance with a wider pivoting head to make sure it wouldn't pull out during the ride. All modern sensitives to these magnificent creatures aside, it was a ballsy thing to do taking them on in their element. So I may have missed your intent but thanks for the nostalgic writing prompt Robin. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7dSTdHziMs http://tinyurl.com/nwjste --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D
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Isn't it funny as we sink deeper into our codgerhood how fascinating history becomes! Thanks for the heads up, that sounds like exactly the kind of history I would dig, especially since one quarter of me is Irish. (Not the quarter of me that I refer to as Moby because I still maintain that quarter of me is pure African American.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: As a boy on Nantucket I spent a lot of time picking out sperm whale's teeth to buy. This was before the ban and they were cheap enough for my thin wallet. My dad took up the arcane art of scrimshaw and I have a few beautifully etched teeth telling the story of the ill fated Essex where a particularly ambitious whale turned the tables and with whatever is the blow hole equivalent of no, no fuck YOU crashed the boat to splinters. Curtis, given the wonderful way you describe the early history of American whaling, I have to think that you'd really enjoy the new BBC America series Copper. NOT that there is any whaling in it; it's set in New York City's Five Points, possibly not the biggest American whaling port. But it's a story told -- both visually and in dialogue -- as vividly as your descriptions of what a Nantucket Sleigh Ride is, and the whale-sized balls of the men who took such rides. Copper is about Irish-Americans in the years following the riots portrayed in Scorcese's Gangs Of New York. Our heroes are the Good Guys of the NYC police force, which means that they try to murder only the people who deserve it, not the ones who don't. As I've said here before but you might have missed, being in lurk mode and all, I compare it favorably with Deadwood. That is -- coming from me -- a high compliment. *Especially* because Copper was done on probably a tenth or twentieth of that show's budget. I was never into whaling lore, but for about a year I lived out on Marblehead Neck, near Boston. It was very near Salem, MA, home of the Salem witch trials, and a museum to them. In it you could read -- on the original parchments, written in the original hands of the people who wrote them -- the court records of the men who pressed to death quite a few women for the crime of...uh...not being the kind of women they were expected to be. Nothing more. The museum also contained a few implements that these fine, upstanding men used to extract confessions from the women in question. Some of them make the whaling tools you described sound benevolent and compassionate in comparison.
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Hi Susan, Thanks for the second post full of kind words for my efforts here. It means a lot and thank you. Finnish? You have me intrigued. I would love to read them. These are all still in the shitty first draft stages so any suggestions would be welcome. Or even just to see how you would shift it to suit your own interests. Anyway, thanks for saying you enjoyed what I wrote. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Heart of Gold, dear Curtis. And wonderful writer. I am compelled to read and finish each piece. Enjoy the process, and save them up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7dSTdHziMs So uh...let's see now...mmm...you are making the connection between...uh uh well I guess you could be...no...could the white whale be...that doesn't seem like it could...well maybe if you were looking at it from the perspective of...no that seems unlikely...a whale is not a fish so... OK, you got me. Funny you should bring up whaling because outside the context of what I wrote it makes so much sense you might be able to claim it was all a psychic vision about me. You see I vacationed on Nantucket Island off the coast of Cape Cod for many years and was well infused growing up with the history of what was arguably the most important industry in American History, our own Saudi Arabian liquid gold, whale oil. It literally lit up our nation. This week in cleaning out our ancestral house with my siblings I took home whaling harpoons that my father had carefully tied ropes onto, duplicating the complicated knots he studied at the Nantucket whaling museum. I spent hours there as a ten year old staring at real shrunken heads and thumb screws and other devices designed to bring discipline to the motley eclectic crew on a whaling ship that could spend up to three years to find and process whales, before returning home to their opium addicted wives on Nantucket. These ships were a model of multiracial and multicultural society way before their time. There is a great movie on streaming Netflix telling the story of this history that I recommend: American Experience, Into the Deep As a boy on Nantucket I spent a lot of time picking out sperm whale's teeth to buy. This was before the ban and they were cheap enough for my thin wallet. My dad took up the arcane art of scrimshaw and I have a few beautifully etched teeth telling the story of the ill fated Essex where a particularly ambitious whale turned the tables and with whatever is the blow hole equivalent of no, no fuck YOU crashed the boat to splinters. Nantucket was the whaling hub, the center of the universe long before it became a place where the hoity and the toity could stock up on highball glasses etched with sailing ships. What that promo showed very well was how audacious it was to spear one of these massive creatures and go on a Nantucket sleigh ride until it tired enough for them to get close in their tiny boat. What they got wrong was how many spears they threw into it as if that was supposed to kill the whale. What really happened was that after the whale got tired pulling the boat along and they got close, they used a long lance that was plunged over five feet into the whale to hit its heart. I have one of those now too. I am hoping to use it on a home intruder some day as a distraction while I dispatch him with my Walther. I also have a Masey Toggle Iron which was the height of whale technology. It was a spear that once inside the whale toggled outward to set the lance with a wider pivoting head to make sure it wouldn't pull out during the ride. All modern sensitives to these magnificent creatures aside, it was a ballsy thing to do taking them on in their element. So I may have missed your intent but thanks for the nostalgic writing prompt Robin. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7dSTdHziMs http://tinyurl.com/nwjste --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of
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Thanks Emily. The picture looks a bit as if he ate me, but I see we both go to Satan's facial hair stylist. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Curtis: Your writing reminds me a bit of Joel Stein, who writes a commentary column for Time magazine.  That's not a negative thing, btw - he is a pretty amusing fellow.   And, of course, in your parallel life, you may be the ever-satirical Ron Judd, who writes for the Seattle Times, albeit better looking of course.  Tee Hee. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 7:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Our Little Secret  Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D enriched milk, and tons of confidence to project a beamer of a smile full of orthodontist approved, well-flossed teeth. She was around eleven. Her brown hair was pulled into a loose pony tail by some fluorescent pink scrunchy fabric. The only thing out of the ordinary was that she crowded me a bit after she got her maraca. Younger kids will do this, and as the Mayor of Munchkin Land, it is up to me to get them to back off and give me some performance space. Decking one of the kids with my heavy steel resonator guitar in one of my tip inspiring flourishes, leaving them cold cocked on the boardwalk, would definitely cut into profits. But a girl this age usually keeps her distance, so it got my attention that she was standing very close to me with one side of her body. I swiveled my head and my eyes caught something that instantly put me on red alert. The arm she was crowding me with was cut off right below the elbow and she was using me to shield it from the audience. Her arm was not this way from birth. Something sinister and terrible had done this, and it left a fiery red zipper of violated flesh. Our eyes met and I gave her a nod. We were thick as thieves in an instant and she relaxed into a nervous giggle. Like a Sicilian made-man, I was bonded to her through omerta. It was a matter of trust, and I felt it in my chest. We began to play close like Sonny and a miniature Cher. People probably thought she was my niece or something, who else would play together with this familiarity? Her father was all smiles. She was a brave kid, this is not easy performing in front of strangers. A crowd formed supporting the cute little girl and the bluesman. They had no clue to the fierceness of her jagged asymmetry. She kept herself sideways, showing the world who she wanted to be, and they bought it. At the song's end she shot me a conspiratorial look. I sensed something gritty in those eyes. A steeliness forged by the fires of pediatric ward hell. I wondered about her mom and dad, who had spent the hours in the hospital making the painful decisions that lead to this. Oh bullshit, I have no idea. She ran off back to her dad. His look combined sincere thanks with you have no idea. Or maybe I just read all that in myself, it is so hard to tell sometimes. When our eyes met I forgot to breath for a moment. I saw people moving in with tips in slow motion. Someday I hope she finds a real stand up guy. A guy who will always take her left side, and wrapping his arm around her far shoulder, will press her close, feeling her arm halfway across his own back, and she will feel safe and brave, facing the world.
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Doc sez: Sure, but sometimes intention is enough (grin). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: The dear doctor seems to be operating a little closer to the bone this morning. Next, it will be open heart or brain surgery. May I watch? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: The Good Doctor observes: Another great piece of writing, Curtis! The world really needs it. -- one slight, but significant, correction here by Doctor Dumbass: Your world, Barry, needs it. Not mine. My world is not populated by the groups and cliques and false teachers of the blind and dumb, as yours is. My world is filled with happy, bright, insightful, intelligent, and independent souls, every one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: All of this writing just *has* to be a book, Curtis. The world really needs it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D enriched milk, and tons of confidence to project a beamer of a smile full of orthodontist approved, well-flossed teeth. She was around eleven. Her brown hair was pulled into a loose pony tail by some fluorescent pink scrunchy fabric. The only thing out of the ordinary was that she crowded me a bit after she got her maraca. Younger kids will do this, and as the Mayor of Munchkin Land, it is up to me to get them to back off and give me some performance space. Decking one of the kids with my heavy steel resonator guitar in one of my tip inspiring flourishes, leaving them cold cocked on the boardwalk, would definitely cut into profits. But a girl this age usually keeps her distance, so it got my attention that she was standing very close to me with one side of her body. I swiveled my head and my eyes caught something that instantly put me on red alert. The arm she was crowding me with was cut off right below the elbow and she was using me to shield it from the audience. Her arm was not this way from birth. Something sinister and terrible had done this, and it left a fiery red zipper of violated flesh. Our eyes met and I gave her a nod. We were thick as thieves in an instant and she relaxed into a nervous giggle. Like a Sicilian made-man, I was bonded to her through omerta. It was a matter of trust, and I felt it in my chest. We began to play close like Sonny and a miniature Cher. People probably thought she was my niece or something, who else would play together with this familiarity? Her father was all smiles. She was a brave kid, this is not easy performing in front of strangers. A crowd formed supporting the cute little girl and the bluesman. They had no clue to the fierceness of her jagged asymmetry. She kept herself sideways, showing the world who she wanted to be, and they bought it. At the song's end she shot me a conspiratorial look. I sensed something gritty in those eyes. A steeliness forged by the fires of pediatric ward hell. I wondered about her mom and dad, who had spent the hours in the hospital making the painful decisions that lead to this. Oh bullshit, I have no idea. She ran off back to her dad. His look combined sincere thanks with you have no idea. Or maybe I just read all that in myself, it is so hard to tell sometimes. When our eyes met I forgot to breath for a moment. I saw people moving in with tips in slow motion. Someday I hope she finds a real stand up guy. A guy who will always take her left side, and wrapping his arm around her far shoulder, will press her close, feeling her arm halfway across his own back, and she will feel safe and brave, facing the world.
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Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically, ruthlessly, mercilessly rip him apart assuming he will continue along on his clueless, charade of his past trickery here. No sir - no Mayan Messiah of Morons, no Maitreya of Morons getting a free pass from me. So remember that. Love, Ravi On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:55 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** All of this writing just *has* to be a book, Curtis. The world really needs it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D enriched milk, and tons of confidence to project a beamer of a smile full of orthodontist approved, well-flossed teeth. She was around eleven. Her brown hair was pulled into a loose pony tail by some fluorescent pink scrunchy fabric. The only thing out of the ordinary was that she crowded me a bit after she got her maraca. Younger kids will do this, and as the Mayor of Munchkin Land, it is up to me to get them to back off and give me some performance space. Decking one of the kids with my heavy steel resonator guitar in one of my tip inspiring flourishes, leaving them cold cocked on the boardwalk, would definitely cut into profits. But a girl this age usually keeps her distance, so it got my attention that she was standing very close to me with one side of her body. I swiveled my head and my eyes caught something that instantly put me on red alert. The arm she was crowding me with was cut off right below the elbow and she was using me to shield it from the audience. Her arm was not this way from birth. Something sinister and terrible had done this, and it left a fiery red zipper of violated flesh. Our eyes met and I gave her a nod. We were thick as thieves in an instant and she relaxed into a nervous giggle. Like a Sicilian made-man, I was bonded to her through omerta. It was a matter of trust, and I felt it in my chest. We began to play close like Sonny and a miniature Cher. People probably thought she was my niece or something, who else would play together with this familiarity? Her father was all smiles. She was a brave kid, this is not easy performing in front of strangers. A crowd formed supporting the cute little girl and the bluesman. They had no clue to the fierceness of her jagged asymmetry. She kept herself sideways, showing the world who she wanted to be, and they bought it. At the song's end she shot me a conspiratorial look. I sensed something gritty in those eyes. A steeliness forged by the fires of pediatric ward hell. I wondered about her mom and dad, who had spent the hours in the hospital making the painful decisions that lead to this. Oh bullshit, I have no idea. She ran off back to her dad. His look combined sincere thanks with you have no idea. Or maybe I just read all that in myself, it is so hard to tell sometimes. When our eyes met I forgot to breath for a moment. I saw people moving in with tips in slow motion. Someday I hope she finds a real stand up guy. A guy who will always take her left side, and wrapping his arm around her far shoulder, will press her close, feeling her arm halfway across his own back, and she will feel safe and brave, facing the world.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically, ruthlessly, mercilessly rip him apart assuming he will continue along on his clueless, charade of his past trickery here. No sir - no Mayan Messiah of Morons, no Maitreya of Morons getting a free pass from me. So remember that. That perfectly defines the troll agenda doesn't it? Love, Ravi On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:55 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** All of this writing just *has* to be a book, Curtis. The world really needs it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Crowds of people are like schools of fish. They swim by an outside performer with the mentality of a single entity. The trick for a busker is to break them out of the trance so they will pay attention to me. Pay is the key word here. I need them to stop their internal dialog long enough to extract something green and crisp from their wallets and purses. Bring on the children! They are perfect for this agenda. Easily distracted by novel things in the environment (me and my instruments), and lacking the intense internal dialog of having mortgage payments and making it to their car before the meter maid, they are ideal co-conspirators. I invite them up with maracas so they can join the show. Parents get it right away, artistic enrichment for the center of their universe. Now that the stage is set, I have something hidden to show you. She was one of those little girls with something extra, the sparkle of magnetic charisma. I see plenty of them coming out of the good homes in Northern Virginia. The right schools, plenty of vitamin D enriched milk, and tons of confidence to project a beamer of a smile full of orthodontist approved, well-flossed teeth. She was around eleven. Her brown hair was pulled into a loose pony tail by some fluorescent pink scrunchy fabric. The only thing out of the ordinary was that she crowded me a bit after she got her maraca. Younger kids will do this, and as the Mayor of Munchkin Land, it is up to me to get them to back off and give me some performance space. Decking one of the kids with my heavy steel resonator guitar in one of my tip inspiring flourishes, leaving them cold cocked on the boardwalk, would definitely cut into profits. But a girl this age usually keeps her distance, so it got my attention that she was standing very close to me with one side of her body. I swiveled my head and my eyes caught something that instantly put me on red alert. The arm she was crowding me with was cut off right below the elbow and she was using me to shield it from the audience. Her arm was not this way from birth. Something sinister and terrible had done this, and it left a fiery red zipper of violated flesh. Our eyes met and I gave her a nod. We were thick as thieves in an instant and she relaxed into a nervous giggle. Like a Sicilian made-man, I was bonded to her through omerta. It was a matter of trust, and I felt it in my chest. We began to play close like Sonny and a miniature Cher. People probably thought she was my niece or something, who else would play together with this familiarity? Her father was all smiles. She was a brave kid, this is not easy performing in front of strangers. A crowd formed supporting the cute little girl and the bluesman. They had no clue to the fierceness of her jagged asymmetry. She kept herself sideways, showing the world who she wanted to be, and they bought it. At the song's end she shot me a conspiratorial look. I sensed something gritty in those eyes. A steeliness forged by the fires of pediatric ward hell. I wondered about her mom and dad, who had spent the hours in the hospital making the painful decisions that lead to this. Oh bullshit, I have no idea. She ran off back to her dad. His look combined sincere thanks with you have no idea. Or maybe I just read all that in myself, it is so hard to tell sometimes. When our eyes met I forgot to breath for a moment. I saw people moving in with tips in slow motion. Someday I hope she finds a real stand up guy. A guy who will always take her left side, and wrapping his arm around her far shoulder, will press her close, feeling her arm halfway across his own back, and she will feel safe and brave, facing the world.
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On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically, ruthlessly, mercilessly rip him apart assuming he will continue along on his clueless, charade of his past trickery here. No sir - no Mayan Messiah of Morons, no Maitreya of Morons getting a free pass from me. So remember that. That perfectly defines the troll agenda doesn't it? Baby - I'm down with anything that helps your rehabilitation, I have a special kind of love for you. Just don't, don't, you know what..:-). Anyway this is all from the Message view that I can't but help notice. Plus I was talking to Barry. So, Bzzzt..back off, you are not in my list of interesting persons. Not Interested. Take your whiny, drama queenery, elsewhere - Get it? Love, Ravi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically, ruthlessly, mercilessly rip him apart assuming he will continue along on his clueless, charade of his past trickery here. No sir - no Mayan Messiah of Morons, no Maitreya of Morons getting a free pass from me. So remember that. That perfectly defines the troll agenda doesn't it? Baby - I'm down with anything that helps your rehabilitation, I have a special kind of love for you. Just don't, don't, you know what..:-). Anyway this is all from the Message view that I can't but help notice. Plus I was talking to Barry. So, Bzzzt..back off, you are not in my list of interesting persons. Not Interested. Take your whiny, drama queenery, elsewhere - Get it? Love, Ravi http://youtu.be/XpqoRhGx1rc Love, Ravinder Singh
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
I'll confess Ravi, that while you were gone, I asked myself, do I miss his presence here? And I will also admit that the answer was no, I did not It is true that we had become quite adversarial, and yes, there was a certain enjoyment it taking on that role. But once some time had passed, after you had been booted off, I realized how unpleasant it had really been. And here you are ramping up that same type behavior. I guess you can't stay away from it. I mean it looks like you are waging battles on several fronts. In fact, it seems you've created web sites from which to wage some of these battles. At any rate, I find it distasteful, that you see fit to spew some much venom. Excuse me if I am not able to respond quickly to anything you might say. We are spending part of the weekend here in Chicago, and I don't have ready access to a computer. Sharing it with my wife and daughter. It is true that during your last stint, I had gotten deep into a battle posture with you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Barry Baby, Well I hope your buddy just sticks to his writing on his way to rehabilitating himself - I don't think there is any dispute on his writing skills. I'm watching, I'm sure the old man and Judy are as well. I don't know about them but the minute your buddy tries to wade into any kind of spiritual, moral, ethical, intelligent voice here, I will methodically, ruthlessly, mercilessly rip him apart assuming he will continue along on his clueless, charade of his past trickery here. No sir - no Mayan Messiah of Morons, no Maitreya of Morons getting a free pass from me. So remember that. That perfectly defines the troll agenda doesn't it? Baby - I'm down with anything that helps your rehabilitation, I have a special kind of love for you. Just don't, don't, you know what..:-). Anyway this is all from the Message view that I can't but help notice. Plus I was talking to Barry. So, Bzzzt..back off, you are not in my list of interesting persons. Not Interested. Take your whiny, drama queenery, elsewhere - Get it? Love, Ravi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip I was never into whaling lore, but for about a year I lived out on Marblehead Neck, near Boston. It was very near Salem, MA, home of the Salem witch trials, and a museum to them. In it you could read -- on the original parchments, written in the original hands of the people who wrote them -- the court records of the men who pressed to death quite a few women for the crime of...uh...not being the kind of women they were expected to be. Nothing more. FWIW, those convicted in the Salem witch trials were hanged, not pressed to death, except for one man who refused to enter a plea at trial. This was not an execution method but a torture technique designed to extort a guilty plea. Giles Corey (the Salem man) seems to have been the only person in the U.S. who is known to have been subjected to this method. He died after refusing to plead guilty for three days.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip I was never into whaling lore, but for about a year I lived out on Marblehead Neck, near Boston. It was very near Salem, MA, home of the Salem witch trials, and a museum to them. In it you could read -- on the original parchments, written in the original hands of the people who wrote them -- the court records of the men who pressed to death quite a few women for the crime of...uh...not being the kind of women they were expected to be. Nothing more. FWIW, those convicted in the Salem witch trials were hanged, not pressed to death, except for one man who refused to enter a plea at trial. This was not an execution method but a torture technique designed to extort a guilty plea. Giles Corey (the Salem man) seems to have been the only person in the U.S. who is known to have been subjected to this method. He died after refusing to plead guilty for three days. Pretty much psychopathic behavior...must have got off on this type of thing... After a proper day of torturing and murder, went home had a few drinks, screwed their obedient wife and fell into a drunken stupor...of sleep...
