Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

[Kelley Saveika]

You are SO VERY welcome!
I strongly urge you to read his book - if it is not available at your local
library,  you can get it at Amazon used very cheaply.
http://tinyurl.com/lv2rl4
*
*
*If he comes anywhere near you at all to speak - please do attend.  It will
change your life.  And have your tissues ready.  He is my hero.  I have
heard him speak 3 times now.  I will drive anywhere within an 800 mile
radius just to hear him.  He is that powerful.*

*P.S.  He does not believe in killing FELV+ cats, just because they are
FELV+.
*
I have a copy of his book he signed for me - it says "Never doubt we will
succeed,"  and though I am not superhuman like he is, and I do sometimes
doubt, when I do doubt I get out my book and look at it and it helps.

Thank you so much for the compliment:):):)
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Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

[Laurieskatz]

I actually found this last night from the links at Kelley's site. Great info
there. I am so grateful there is info out there and the plan of action
already in place.
L

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

You might want to look at the No Kill Advocacy Center--in particular, the
"No Kill Equation" at link below... 

http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/nokillequation.html 

Christiane Biagi
Cell:  914-720-6888
ti...@mindspring.com 
Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 10:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

Kelley, I am on an Ad Hoc committee regarding a new Animal Control/shelter
manager and new shelter (ours was destroyed in a flood - the 5th largest
natural disaster - last summer). We are making recommendations regarding the
new manager and shelter. We are hoping to have a greater focus on the
sheltering part of the position than in the past. We are also drafting
interview questions for the candidates. We are hoping the City will hire
someone who believes in the no kill philosophy. Earlier today I read the new
Cat Fancy article "a No Kill Nation: Is It Possible?" and had my first
exposure to Nathan Winograd. Tonight I was perusing your site and there he
is again! I didn't realize or remember where you are located and, of course
you would know him or of him. He is AMAZING. The links on your site took me
to tons of valuable information for our effort. THANK-YOU for this and all
you do for kitties!
Laurie (Iowa)

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Susan Hoffman
wrote:

>
> They also receive a lot of funding and donations and have a dedicated
board
> of directors.


Yes, but how much of that is due to the fact that they have been open to the
public since the beginning?

It seems a chicken and the egg thing to me.

-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

Help us spay some kitties!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals

"Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take  them first
as long as you leave me alone".
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Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

[Laurieskatz]

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

You might want to look at the No Kill Advocacy Center--in particular, the
"No Kill Equation" at link below... 

http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/nokillequation.html 

Christiane Biagi
Cell:  914-720-6888
ti...@mindspring.com 
Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 10:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

Kelley, I am on an Ad Hoc committee regarding a new Animal Control/shelter
manager and new shelter (ours was destroyed in a flood - the 5th largest
natural disaster - last summer). We are making recommendations regarding the
new manager and shelter. We are hoping to have a greater focus on the
sheltering part of the position than in the past. We are also drafting
interview questions for the candidates. We are hoping the City will hire
someone who believes in the no kill philosophy. Earlier today I read the new
Cat Fancy article "a No Kill Nation: Is It Possible?" and had my first
exposure to Nathan Winograd. Tonight I was perusing your site and there he
is again! I didn't realize or remember where you are located and, of course
you would know him or of him. He is AMAZING. The links on your site took me
to tons of valuable information for our effort. THANK-YOU for this and all
you do for kitties!
Laurie (Iowa)

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Susan Hoffman
wrote:

>
> They also receive a lot of funding and donations and have a dedicated
board
> of directors.


Yes, but how much of that is due to the fact that they have been open to the
public since the beginning?

It seems a chicken and the egg thing to me.

-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

Help us spay some kitties!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals

"Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take  them first
as long as you leave me alone".
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Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

[Laurieskatz]

Thank-you!!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

You might want to look at the No Kill Advocacy Center--in particular, the
"No Kill Equation" at link below... 

http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/nokillequation.html 

Christiane Biagi
Cell:  914-720-6888
ti...@mindspring.com 
Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 10:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

Kelley, I am on an Ad Hoc committee regarding a new Animal Control/shelter
manager and new shelter (ours was destroyed in a flood - the 5th largest
natural disaster - last summer). We are making recommendations regarding the
new manager and shelter. We are hoping to have a greater focus on the
sheltering part of the position than in the past. We are also drafting
interview questions for the candidates. We are hoping the City will hire
someone who believes in the no kill philosophy. Earlier today I read the new
Cat Fancy article "a No Kill Nation: Is It Possible?" and had my first
exposure to Nathan Winograd. Tonight I was perusing your site and there he
is again! I didn't realize or remember where you are located and, of course
you would know him or of him. He is AMAZING. The links on your site took me
to tons of valuable information for our effort. THANK-YOU for this and all
you do for kitties!
Laurie (Iowa)

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Susan Hoffman
wrote:

>
> They also receive a lot of funding and donations and have a dedicated
board
> of directors.


Yes, but how much of that is due to the fact that they have been open to the
public since the beginning?

It seems a chicken and the egg thing to me.

-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

Help us spay some kitties!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals

"Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take  them first
as long as you leave me alone".
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Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

[Chris]

You might want to look at the No Kill Advocacy Center--in particular, the
"No Kill Equation" at link below... 

http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/nokillequation.html 

Christiane Biagi
Cell:  914-720-6888
ti...@mindspring.com 
Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 10:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

Kelley, I am on an Ad Hoc committee regarding a new Animal Control/shelter
manager and new shelter (ours was destroyed in a flood - the 5th largest
natural disaster - last summer). We are making recommendations regarding the
new manager and shelter. We are hoping to have a greater focus on the
sheltering part of the position than in the past. We are also drafting
interview questions for the candidates. We are hoping the City will hire
someone who believes in the no kill philosophy. Earlier today I read the new
Cat Fancy article "a No Kill Nation: Is It Possible?" and had my first
exposure to Nathan Winograd. Tonight I was perusing your site and there he
is again! I didn't realize or remember where you are located and, of course
you would know him or of him. He is AMAZING. The links on your site took me
to tons of valuable information for our effort. THANK-YOU for this and all
you do for kitties!
Laurie (Iowa)

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Susan Hoffman
wrote:

>
> They also receive a lot of funding and donations and have a dedicated
board
> of directors.


Yes, but how much of that is due to the fact that they have been open to the
public since the beginning?

It seems a chicken and the egg thing to me.

-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

Help us spay some kitties!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals

"Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take  them first
as long as you leave me alone".
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Re: [Felvtalk] for Kelley OT

[Laurieskatz]

Kelley, I am on an Ad Hoc committee regarding a new Animal Control/shelter
manager and new shelter (ours was destroyed in a flood - the 5th largest
natural disaster - last summer). We are making recommendations regarding the
new manager and shelter. We are hoping to have a greater focus on the
sheltering part of the position than in the past. We are also drafting
interview questions for the candidates. We are hoping the City will hire
someone who believes in the no kill philosophy. Earlier today I read the new
Cat Fancy article "a No Kill Nation: Is It Possible?" and had my first
exposure to Nathan Winograd. Tonight I was perusing your site and there he
is again! I didn't realize or remember where you are located and, of course
you would know him or of him. He is AMAZING. The links on your site took me
to tons of valuable information for our effort. THANK-YOU for this and all
you do for kitties!
Laurie (Iowa)

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Susan Hoffman
wrote:

>
> They also receive a lot of funding and donations and have a dedicated
board
> of directors.


Yes, but how much of that is due to the fact that they have been open to the
public since the beginning?

It seems a chicken and the egg thing to me.

-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

Help us spay some kitties!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals

"Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take  them first
as long as you leave me alone".
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Re: Kelley from Belinda

[MaryChristine]

some people are never bothered by facts. and some folks don't know their
anal glands from their whiskers, and a simple perusal of their emails for
months back proves it.



On Nov 19, 2007 2:11 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We all want the very best for ALL the little ones--it is the one thing we
> share.  None of us, including you, have actually seen the AC video and
> whether true or not, there is no need to become sarcastic or caustic.  If
> this is a true hoarder situation, then we all need to encourage Kelly to get
> some help.  If it is not true, then we all need to help support her
> struggle.
>
> Christiane Biagi
> 914-632-4672
> Cell:  914-720-6888
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)
> www.findkpets.org
>
> Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:02 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Kelley from Belinda
>
> So sad, for the cats.
>
> Good luck w/ your life, you obviously live it through very thick rose
> tinted
> glasses
>
> Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
> www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
> www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
> www.shadowcats.net
>  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
>   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
>   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
>   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
>     Trajan Tennent
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "MaryChristine"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:36 PM
> Subject: Kelley from Belinda
>
>
>Kelley,
>   My sincerest apologies for jumping to conclusions, I was completely
> fooled by a hoarder once and it is a very delicate subject for me.  I
> should have known with Susan telling the story it probably wasn't true,
> I did view the video and like I said in my email that was taken with a
> big grain of salt, I know they aren't going to say anything nice about
> the person they are taking animals away from.
>
> I hope you can get this all squared away and the truth come out, I just
> wish the rumor mongers would get their what they have coming but that
> probably won't happen.
>
> I do believe in the after life though and they will have to face
> themselves and what they did here there, should be a pretty
> uncomfortable time for them!!
>
> Why in God's name did your vet start all this trouble???
>
> --
>
> Belinda
> happiness is being owned by cats ...
>
> Be-Mi-Kitties
> http://bemikitties.com
>
> Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
> http://adopt.bemikitties.com
>
> FeLV Candlelight Service
> http://bemikitties.com/cls
>
> HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design]
> http://HostDesign4U.com
>
> 
>
> BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]
> http://bmk.bemikitties.com
>
>
>
>
>


-- 

Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

RE: Kelley from Belinda

[Chris]

We all want the very best for ALL the little ones--it is the one thing we 
share.  None of us, including you, have actually seen the AC video and whether 
true or not, there is no need to become sarcastic or caustic.  If this is a 
true hoarder situation, then we all need to encourage Kelly to get some help.  
If it is not true, then we all need to help support her struggle.  

Christiane Biagi
914-632-4672
Cell:  914-720-6888
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART)
www.findkpets.org
 
Join Us & Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Kelley from Belinda

So sad, for the cats.

Good luck w/ your life, you obviously live it through very thick rose tinted 
glasses

Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "MaryChristine" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: Kelley from Belinda


Kelley,
   My sincerest apologies for jumping to conclusions, I was completely
fooled by a hoarder once and it is a very delicate subject for me.  I
should have known with Susan telling the story it probably wasn't true,
I did view the video and like I said in my email that was taken with a
big grain of salt, I know they aren't going to say anything nice about
the person they are taking animals away from.

I hope you can get this all squared away and the truth come out, I just
wish the rumor mongers would get their what they have coming but that
probably won't happen.

I do believe in the after life though and they will have to face
themselves and what they did here there, should be a pretty
uncomfortable time for them!!

Why in God's name did your vet start all this trouble???

-- 

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

FeLV Candlelight Service
http://bemikitties.com/cls

HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design]
http://HostDesign4U.com



BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]
http://bmk.bemikitties.com

Re: Kelley from Belinda

[Susan Dubose]

So sad, for the cats.

Good luck w/ your life, you obviously live it through very thick rose tinted 
glasses

Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "MaryChristine" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: Kelley from Belinda


Kelley,
   My sincerest apologies for jumping to conclusions, I was completely
fooled by a hoarder once and it is a very delicate subject for me.  I
should have known with Susan telling the story it probably wasn't true,
I did view the video and like I said in my email that was taken with a
big grain of salt, I know they aren't going to say anything nice about
the person they are taking animals away from.

I hope you can get this all squared away and the truth come out, I just
wish the rumor mongers would get their what they have coming but that
probably won't happen.

I do believe in the after life though and they will have to face
themselves and what they did here there, should be a pretty
uncomfortable time for them!!

Why in God's name did your vet start all this trouble???

-- 

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

FeLV Candlelight Service
http://bemikitties.com/cls

HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design]
http://HostDesign4U.com



BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]
http://bmk.bemikitties.com

Kelley from Belinda

[Belinda Sauro]

   Kelley,
  My sincerest apologies for jumping to conclusions, I was completely 
fooled by a hoarder once and it is a very delicate subject for me.  I 
should have known with Susan telling the story it probably wasn't true, 
I did view the video and like I said in my email that was taken with a 
big grain of salt, I know they aren't going to say anything nice about 
the person they are taking animals away from.


I hope you can get this all squared away and the truth come out, I just 
wish the rumor mongers would get their what they have coming but that 
probably won't happen.


I do believe in the after life though and they will have to face 
themselves and what they did here there, should be a pretty 
uncomfortable time for them!!


Why in God's name did your vet start all this trouble???

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To Kelley Re: Need some help

[wendy]

Kelley,

I am so sorry you and your furbabies are going through this.  I will keep you 
all on my prayer list and ask that this be resolved quickly and that things get 
back to normal for you soon.  Prayers also going out for your strength.

:)
Wendy
 
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


- Original Message ----
From: Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 7:57:37 AM
Subject: Need some help

Hi guys,

My cats were seized yesterday by animal control.  I had taken some
sick animals to Emancipet for treatment and they sent the Austin
Police Department an email stating they were concerned.

I am in desperate, desperate need of monies for an attorney, since I
spend every cent I have caring for these animals.  In this case I
could not give you a tax deduction as I do when you have so kindly in
the past donated to help my animals.  I could send you a thank you
note and pay it forward to some other rescuers at some other time.

If all you can do is send your prayers that is also appreciated.

THanks,

Kelley

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Re: for kelley

[Gloria B. Lane]

That's a wonderful web site - thanks, MC.

Gloria


At 05:46 PM 11/9/2007, you wrote:
many of you will remember mari, spiritcat, who has been working with 
us to help kelley.


i just spoke with kelley, and learned that one of her rescue 
kitties, mia, a BIG girl (22#, no less) has gone on to the rainbow 
bridge since she was taken from kelley's house yesterday.


this is mari's tribute to me, and one i hope we all can share in.

MC




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Re: for kelley

[Gloria B. Lane]

That's a wonderful web site - thanks, MC.

Gloria


At 05:46 PM 11/9/2007, you wrote:
many of you will remember mari, spiritcat, who has been working with 
us to help kelley.


i just spoke with kelley, and learned that one of her rescue 
kitties, mia, a BIG girl (22#, no less) has gone on to the rainbow 
bridge since she was taken from kelley's house yesterday.


this is mari's tribute to me, and one i hope we all can share in.

MC




Look for the little flamepoint siamese laying on a blanket - even 
though he could not walk here upon this earth, he can there but 
prefers to hold court from his blankie. My little MaxMan and his 
friends welcome you to our family.


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Re: for kelley ~ for MC

[laurieskatz]

very cool. I have never been here before...just lit my first candle. Thanks MC 
for this link and for Mia. Had she been sick?
Do we have an update on Kelly?
:L
  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryChristine 
  To: FeLVTalk 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:46 PM
  Subject: for kelley


  many of you will remember mari, spiritcat, who has been working with us to 
help kelley. 

  i just spoke with kelley, and learned that one of her rescue kitties, mia, a 
BIG girl (22#, no less) has gone on to the rainbow bridge since she was taken 
from kelley's house yesterday. 

  this is mari's tribute to me, and one i hope we all can share in.

  MC






  Look for the little flamepoint siamese laying on a blanket - even though he 
could not walk here upon this earth, he can there but prefers to hold court 
from his blankie. My little MaxMan and his friends welcome you to our family.
  Click here to see the candle




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To Kelley @ BF/Sylvester

[wendy]

Kelley,

How cool is that!  What a lucky kitty!

:)
Wendy

--- catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Caroline,
>
>   It sounds like you're doing everything you can. 
> I'm sure by now someone has mentioned taking doxy in
> case it's hemobartonella.  If it's not hemobart the
> anemia is hard to beat, but there are people on the
> list who have bought 'good' time for their cats with
> various methods.  13 pounds is a good weight, and
> his behavior sounds good too.  I hope the best for
> Monkee.
>   tonya
> 
> Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> Hi everyone.  I wanted to provide an update
> on my FeLV pos. and lymphosarcoma cat Monkee.  He
> saw his Vet yesterday to determine whether the
> Epogen had helped his anemia.  The news was very
> bad.  Apparently last week, when the anemia started,
> his Red Blood cell count was 13%.  After a week (& 3
> doses of the Epogen), his RBC count was actually
> worse, 10%.  However, Monkee’s White Blood Cell
> count is normal (it was down last week) and his
> lymphocyte count is normal.  Dr. Daley also found a
> lymph node in his groin that is enlarged (but it
> can’t be felt from the outside- it runs along the
> artery in the leg).  His Vet said she thinks the
> FeLV is causing the problem, or it could be the
> lymphosarcoma, but when pressed, she said that she
> honestly doubted it was the cancer.  She presented 3
> options: (1) a bone marrow aspirate/biopsy to
> determine what is going on at the cellular level;
> however, it is invasive and Monkee would need
> sedation- which he couldn’t get anyway while
>  so anemic (so he'd need a blood transfusion 1st,
> just to be able to do the biospy);  However, the
> biopsy, in her opinion, would probably just tell us
> it’s FeLV causing the anemia; (2) a blood
> transfusion to literally buy me more time with him;
> (3) try another dose of chemo in hopes that the
> anemia is being caused by lymphosarcoma, although,
> as I said previously, she doubted it and that was a
> shot in the dark. 
>   My mother and I did not want to put this cat
> through chemo again (although he did very well with
> the first round).  But now that he is actively
> anemic, there was no way I would do it, especially
> knowing that Dr. Daley really didn’t think the chemo
> would actually help the situation.  We also didn’t
> want to put him through a bone marrow biopsy that
> would probably tell us what we already know, but
> don’t want to admit…that for four years, I had the
> healthiest, beefiest, toughest cat in the world, who
> never even suffered from a urinary tract infection;
> who was so healthy, I wanted to test him a 3rd time
> this summer for FeLV because I was sure he didn’t
> have it….To now, out of nowhere, in a span of 2
> months, we have gone from that, to a severely
> anemic, suffering, FeLV cat with lymphosarcoma.  
>   Dr. Daley gave him days.  Days.  Which my mom and
> I were not prepared to hear at all.  I mean, he is
> eating, drinking, using the litter box, he is thick
> (he was slightly overweight to begin with, so that
> is helping him now).  Yes, he’s not “Monkee” as I
> have known him, but he just doesn’t look to me like
> he’s on his last leg.  When we questioned her on the
> “days” prognosis she explained that due to the FeLV
> virus, and the anemia, his body is not making RBC
> and his brain is not getting enough oxygen and
> although he seems okay now, he is dizzy,
> lightheaded, probably having vertigo, and all of
> that will continue to get worse because his body is
> not manufacturing RBC- which carry oxygen in the
> blood, and eventually, his eating/drinking and
> making it to the litter box will all drop off.  
>   We asked what could be done and she said, if you
> “are not ready yet,” she recommended the blood
> transfusion, which will give him about two weeks,
> and then the benefits of the transferred blood will
> wear off and he will start suffering the anemia
> symptoms again because his body is not producing
> it’s own RBC.  She also said that morally, with FeLV
> cats, she will do 2 blood transfusions, and then
> that is it.  It is fighting a losing battle and that
> is as far as she will take it.
>   I was wrecked and my mother was crying too.  I
> decided to pull myself together and still take
> Monkee to the Holistic Vet, Dr. Susan Maier, after
> we left Dr. Daley’s.  It was our first visit and I
> thought, I am so desperate right now, it can’t hurt.
>  A funny story about this visit: Monkee totally
> perked up as soon as we left Dr. Daley’s (he hates
> it there!).  Dr. Maier has a few black and white
> “clinic cats” that roam around and as soon as we
&g

Re: Suzie crossed the bridge/ Lucky Lady - Kelley

[PEC2851]

In a message dated 6/28/07 3:53:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Well, he  euthanized Lucky Lady at noon
Kelley,
I am so very, very sorry. (And, sincerely too.  I  know I don't always 
say/write things people want to hear/read...)
But, please know, you are in my thoughts & prayers.  With all the  
fur-angels..
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Re: Kelley, how is Caroline doing?

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

Growling is good.

"Consciousness is Causal
 and Physicality is its
 Manifest."


On May 29, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:


I picked her up at 7:00 am.  She seems much improved to me.  She is
looking around and growling.  Still taking nothing by mouth, on fluids
and tube feeding.  They have narrowed the diagnosis to dry FIP or
toxo.  Not sure why brain cancer is not in the picture anymore or if
they just didnt' write it down.

Kelley

On 5/28/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey Kelley,

Just wondering how your baby is doing?

:)
Wendy

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Re: Kelley, how is Caroline doing?

[Kelley Saveika]

I could have a CT scan done, which would rule brain cancer in or out,
but I don't see much reason to do that since brain cancer cannot be
treated.

We could test for toxo, but he says he's never seen a cat w/toxo that
came from Texas - he's only seen one and that cat came from out of
state.  She's on the clinical dose to treat toxo.

That leaves dry FIP.

She *is* getting better, though she's not normal.

On 5/29/07, dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Oh Kelly, I did the same thing.  It was like "it can't
hurt"  now he is testing + for hemobart and is on
doxy.  We can only do what we think is best, and hope
for the best.

God bless you both,
Dede
--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> THey can treat toxo.  It is treated with clindamycin
> (sp?).  They
> haven't tested for it.  It has to be sent out to a
> lab and it takes a
> while to get the results back apparently.  I okayed
> the treatment
> since it wouldn't hurt anything and might help.
>
> If it is dry FIP or brain cancer, there aren' tany
> effective
> treatments for either.
>
> On 5/29/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm glad she's improved!  I guess the news is
> better
> > than you expected?  Can they treat the toxo?  If
> so,
> > what do they treat it with?  Are they waiting on
> lab
> > results to verify it?
> >
> > Sorry I have so many questions.  I'm curious and
> keep
> > the info. for further reference.
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > --- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I picked her up at 7:00 am.  She seems much
> improved
> > > to me.  She is
> > > looking around and growling.  Still taking
> nothing
> > > by mouth, on fluids
> > > and tube feeding.  They have narrowed the
> diagnosis
> > > to dry FIP or
> > > toxo.  Not sure why brain cancer is not in the
> > > picture anymore or if
> > > they just didnt' write it down.
> > >
> > > Kelley
> > >
> > > On 5/28/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hey Kelley,
> > > >
> > > > Just wondering how your baby is doing?
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > > > Wendy
> > > >
> > > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> > > committed citizens can change the world - indeed
> it
> > > is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~
> Margaret
> > > Meade ~~~
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Re: Kelley, how is Caroline doing?

[dede hicken]

Oh Kelly, I did the same thing.  It was like "it can't
hurt"  now he is testing + for hemobart and is on
doxy.  We can only do what we think is best, and hope
for the best.

God bless you both,
Dede
--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> THey can treat toxo.  It is treated with clindamycin
> (sp?).  They
> haven't tested for it.  It has to be sent out to a
> lab and it takes a
> while to get the results back apparently.  I okayed
> the treatment
> since it wouldn't hurt anything and might help.
> 
> If it is dry FIP or brain cancer, there aren' tany
> effective
> treatments for either.
> 
> On 5/29/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm glad she's improved!  I guess the news is
> better
> > than you expected?  Can they treat the toxo?  If
> so,
> > what do they treat it with?  Are they waiting on
> lab
> > results to verify it?
> >
> > Sorry I have so many questions.  I'm curious and
> keep
> > the info. for further reference.
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > --- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I picked her up at 7:00 am.  She seems much
> improved
> > > to me.  She is
> > > looking around and growling.  Still taking
> nothing
> > > by mouth, on fluids
> > > and tube feeding.  They have narrowed the
> diagnosis
> > > to dry FIP or
> > > toxo.  Not sure why brain cancer is not in the
> > > picture anymore or if
> > > they just didnt' write it down.
> > >
> > > Kelley
> > >
> > > On 5/28/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hey Kelley,
> > > >
> > > > Just wondering how your baby is doing?
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > > > Wendy
> > > >
> > > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> > > committed citizens can change the world - indeed
> it
> > > is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~
> Margaret
> > > Meade ~~~
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Re: Kelley, how is Caroline doing?

[Kelley Saveika]

THey can treat toxo.  It is treated with clindamycin (sp?).  They
haven't tested for it.  It has to be sent out to a lab and it takes a
while to get the results back apparently.  I okayed the treatment
since it wouldn't hurt anything and might help.

If it is dry FIP or brain cancer, there aren' tany effective
treatments for either.

On 5/29/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm glad she's improved!  I guess the news is better
than you expected?  Can they treat the toxo?  If so,
what do they treat it with?  Are they waiting on lab
results to verify it?

Sorry I have so many questions.  I'm curious and keep
the info. for further reference.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I picked her up at 7:00 am.  She seems much improved
> to me.  She is
> looking around and growling.  Still taking nothing
> by mouth, on fluids
> and tube feeding.  They have narrowed the diagnosis
> to dry FIP or
> toxo.  Not sure why brain cancer is not in the
> picture anymore or if
> they just didnt' write it down.
>
> Kelley
>
> On 5/28/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey Kelley,
> >
> > Just wondering how your baby is doing?
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can change the world - indeed it
> is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret
> Meade ~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
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>
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Re: Kelley, how is Caroline doing?

[wendy]

I'm glad she's improved!  I guess the news is better
than you expected?  Can they treat the toxo?  If so,
what do they treat it with?  Are they waiting on lab
results to verify it?

Sorry I have so many questions.  I'm curious and keep
the info. for further reference.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I picked her up at 7:00 am.  She seems much improved
> to me.  She is
> looking around and growling.  Still taking nothing
> by mouth, on fluids
> and tube feeding.  They have narrowed the diagnosis
> to dry FIP or
> toxo.  Not sure why brain cancer is not in the
> picture anymore or if
> they just didnt' write it down.
> 
> Kelley
> 
> On 5/28/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey Kelley,
> >
> > Just wondering how your baby is doing?
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can change the world - indeed it
> is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret
> Meade ~~~
> >
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Re: Kelley, how is Caroline doing?

[Kelley Saveika]

I picked her up at 7:00 am.  She seems much improved to me.  She is
looking around and growling.  Still taking nothing by mouth, on fluids
and tube feeding.  They have narrowed the diagnosis to dry FIP or
toxo.  Not sure why brain cancer is not in the picture anymore or if
they just didnt' write it down.

Kelley

On 5/28/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey Kelley,

Just wondering how your baby is doing?

:)
Wendy

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Kelley, how is Caroline doing?

[wendy]

Hey Kelley,

Just wondering how your baby is doing?  

:)
Wendy

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Re: Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

Yes, that is what I thought he meant she was not doing.

Having seen the vet do the test, though, what he meant was that she
doesn't blink when a bright light is shined in her eye.

I went to see her and she feels better enough to growl.  They are
feeding her through a tube now because they thought she didn't like
the syringe feeding.

On 5/28/07, Taylor Scobie Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If you lightly tap the nose right inner corner of the eye the eye
should blink.  An old vet trick.

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 28, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Pam Norman wrote:

> Ok, glad she can close them. But she COULD be blind. That would
> account for the non-response.
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>> I just got off the phone with them.  She is now sleeping with her
>> eyes
>> closed.  So she can close them, she just doesn't have the reflex that
>> lets her know if someone is going to poke her in the eye that she
>> should close them.
>>
>> On 5/28/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I am wondering too if she is blind.  I don't know of seizures can
>>> cause
>>> that but whatever neurological thing that caused the seizures might
>>> have. The other problem is that if she cannot blink or close her
>>> eyes
>>> then she cannot lubricate the surface of the eye & the vets MUST
>>> give
>>> her drops!  Call them & ask about that.
>>>
>>> Pam
>>>
>>> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>>> > No, her eyes are not reactive at all.
>>> >
>>> > I don't think she can close her eyes.  I did not see her close her
>>> > eyes or blink at any point past the first seizure.
>>> >
>>> > I do not know what happens when she is sleeping, though.  I
>>> will ask
>>> > when I go in to see her after work.
>>> >
>>> > I'm wondering if she is blind..can seizures cause blindness?  I'm
>>> > really lost here.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >> And her eyes are not reactive? At all?
>>> >>
>>> >> If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> P
>>> >>
>>> >> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>>> >> > Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so
>>> it is
>>> >> > hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >> >> How does she respond to you?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>>> >> >> > Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I
>>> am paying
>>> >> >> > dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.
>>> She's
>>> >> being
>>> >> >> > monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times
>>> today
>>> >> >> > starting at 6 am and been there once.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If
>>> they're closed
>>> >> >> >> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact
>>> about
>>> >> seeing
>>> >> >> >> her? Did they say what they mean about being non-
>>> responsive?
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My
>>> Paddy,
>>> >> who is
>>> >> >> >> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another,
>>> >> knock on
>>> >> >> >> >wood. Apparently this happens.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Pam
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> >> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus
>>> Database:
>>> >> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> >> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus
>>> Database:
>>> >> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>






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Re: Kelley

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

If you lightly tap the nose right inner corner of the eye the eye  
should blink.  An old vet trick.


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 28, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Pam Norman wrote:

Ok, glad she can close them. But she COULD be blind. That would  
account for the non-response.


Kelley Saveika wrote:
I just got off the phone with them.  She is now sleeping with her  
eyes

closed.  So she can close them, she just doesn't have the reflex that
lets her know if someone is going to poke her in the eye that she
should close them.

On 5/28/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am wondering too if she is blind.  I don't know of seizures can  
cause

that but whatever neurological thing that caused the seizures might
have. The other problem is that if she cannot blink or close her  
eyes
then she cannot lubricate the surface of the eye & the vets MUST  
give

her drops!  Call them & ask about that.

Pam

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> No, her eyes are not reactive at all.
>
> I don't think she can close her eyes.  I did not see her close her
> eyes or blink at any point past the first seizure.
>
> I do not know what happens when she is sleeping, though.  I  
will ask

> when I go in to see her after work.
>
> I'm wondering if she is blind..can seizures cause blindness?  I'm
> really lost here.
>
>
> On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And her eyes are not reactive? At all?
>>
>> If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?
>>
>>
>> P
>>
>> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>> > Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so  
it is

>> > hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
>> >
>> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> How does she respond to you?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>> >> > Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I  
am paying
>> >> > dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.   
She's

>> being
>> >> > monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times  
today

>> >> > starting at 6 am and been there once.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If  
they're closed
>> >> >> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact  
about

>> seeing
>> >> >> her? Did they say what they mean about being non- 
responsive?

>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My  
Paddy,

>> who is
>> >> >> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another,
>> knock on
>> >> >> >wood. Apparently this happens.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Pam
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus  
Database:

>> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus  
Database:

>> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Kelley

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

If her eyes are open and she is not blinking at all she needs  
eyedrops so her cornea does not dry out.  If she is drugged up enough  
to stop the seizures that may cause her to be so dopey that she  
doesn't blink nearly as often.  When I went to visit The 3 Orange  
Boyz at the vet's right after their neutering they were so incredibly  
doped up they just gazed at me with big round eyes, very amusing in  
their cases!  Their vet Auntie Dr. Val had placed each little kitten  
chin on the top of his soft stuffed animal (they each have one, of  
course).


Their mommy,

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 28, 2007, at 9:11 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:


No, her eyes are not reactive at all.

I don't think she can close her eyes.  I did not see her close her
eyes or blink at any point past the first seizure.

I do not know what happens when she is sleeping, though.  I will ask
when I go in to see her after work.

I'm wondering if she is blind..can seizures cause blindness?  I'm
really lost here.


On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

And her eyes are not reactive? At all?

If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?


P

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
> hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
>
> On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How does she respond to you?
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>> > Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am  
paying
>> > dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.   
She's being

>> > monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
>> > starting at 6 am and been there once.
>> >
>> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're  
closed
>> >> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact  
about seeing

>> >> her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My  
Paddy, who is
>> >> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another,  
knock on

>> >> >wood. Apparently this happens.
>> >> >
>> >> >Pam
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus  
Database:

>> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus  
Database:

>> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>






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Re: Kelley

[Pam Norman]

Ok, glad she can close them. But she COULD be blind. That would account 
for the non-response.


Kelley Saveika wrote:

I just got off the phone with them.  She is now sleeping with her eyes
closed.  So she can close them, she just doesn't have the reflex that
lets her know if someone is going to poke her in the eye that she
should close them.

On 5/28/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am wondering too if she is blind.  I don't know of seizures can cause
that but whatever neurological thing that caused the seizures might
have. The other problem is that if she cannot blink or close her eyes
then she cannot lubricate the surface of the eye & the vets MUST give
her drops!  Call them & ask about that.

Pam

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> No, her eyes are not reactive at all.
>
> I don't think she can close her eyes.  I did not see her close her
> eyes or blink at any point past the first seizure.
>
> I do not know what happens when she is sleeping, though.  I will ask
> when I go in to see her after work.
>
> I'm wondering if she is blind..can seizures cause blindness?  I'm
> really lost here.
>
>
> On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And her eyes are not reactive? At all?
>>
>> If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?
>>
>>
>> P
>>
>> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>> > Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
>> > hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
>> >
>> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> How does she respond to you?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>> >> > Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am 
paying

>> >> > dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.  She's
>> being
>> >> > monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
>> >> > starting at 6 am and been there once.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're 
closed

>> >> >> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about
>> seeing
>> >> >> her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy,
>> who is
>> >> >> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another,
>> knock on
>> >> >> >wood. Apparently this happens.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Pam
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus 
Database:

>> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus 
Database:

>> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

I just got off the phone with them.  She is now sleeping with her eyes
closed.  So she can close them, she just doesn't have the reflex that
lets her know if someone is going to poke her in the eye that she
should close them.

On 5/28/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am wondering too if she is blind.  I don't know of seizures can cause
that but whatever neurological thing that caused the seizures might
have. The other problem is that if she cannot blink or close her eyes
then she cannot lubricate the surface of the eye & the vets MUST give
her drops!  Call them & ask about that.

Pam

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> No, her eyes are not reactive at all.
>
> I don't think she can close her eyes.  I did not see her close her
> eyes or blink at any point past the first seizure.
>
> I do not know what happens when she is sleeping, though.  I will ask
> when I go in to see her after work.
>
> I'm wondering if she is blind..can seizures cause blindness?  I'm
> really lost here.
>
>
> On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And her eyes are not reactive? At all?
>>
>> If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?
>>
>>
>> P
>>
>> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>> > Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
>> > hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
>> >
>> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> How does she respond to you?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>> >> > Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
>> >> > dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.  She's
>> being
>> >> > monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
>> >> > starting at 6 am and been there once.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
>> >> >> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about
>> seeing
>> >> >> her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy,
>> who is
>> >> >> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another,
>> knock on
>> >> >> >wood. Apparently this happens.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Pam
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>






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Re: Kelley

[Pam Norman]

I am wondering too if she is blind.  I don't know of seizures can cause 
that but whatever neurological thing that caused the seizures might 
have. The other problem is that if she cannot blink or close her eyes 
then she cannot lubricate the surface of the eye & the vets MUST give 
her drops!  Call them & ask about that.


Pam

Kelley Saveika wrote:

No, her eyes are not reactive at all.

I don't think she can close her eyes.  I did not see her close her
eyes or blink at any point past the first seizure.

I do not know what happens when she is sleeping, though.  I will ask
when I go in to see her after work.

I'm wondering if she is blind..can seizures cause blindness?  I'm
really lost here.


On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

And her eyes are not reactive? At all?

If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?


P

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
> hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
>
> On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How does she respond to you?
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>> > Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
>> > dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.  She's 
being

>> > monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
>> > starting at 6 am and been there once.
>> >
>> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
>> >> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about 
seeing

>> >> her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy, 
who is
>> >> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another, 
knock on

>> >> >wood. Apparently this happens.
>> >> >
>> >> >Pam
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

She hasn't actually had a seizure in almost 48 hours.  I think the
reason she is still there is all this neurological abnormality.  Her
temp is normal, she is well hydrated due to IV fluids.  She had a
bowel movement, it was normal.  She's being syringe fed.  She's just
not neurologically responsive.

On 5/28/07, Sheryl Spagg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

One of my cats has seizures and it took me months to get them under control
and it never caused her to go blind.
Sheryl



Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, her eyes are not reactive at all.

I don't think she can close her eyes. I did not see her close her
eyes or blink at any point past the first seizure.

I do not know what happens when she is sleeping, though. I will ask
when I go in to see her after work.

I'm wondering if she is blind..can seizures cause blindness? I'm
really lost here.


On 5/27/07, Pam Norman wrote:
> And her eyes are not reactive? At all?
>
> If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?
>
>
> P
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
> > hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
> >
> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman wrote:
> >> How does she respond to you?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> >> > Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
> >> > dearly. They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet. She's being
> >> > monitored around the clock. I've called up there 5 times today
> >> > starting at 6 am and been there once.
> >> >
> >> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
> >> >> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about
seeing
> >> >> her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Have you ever had a cat before that had seizures? My Paddy, who is
> >> >> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another, knock on
> >> >> >wood. Apparently this happens.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Pam
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: Kelley

[Sheryl Spagg]

One of my cats has seizures and it took me months to get them under control and 
it never caused her to go blind.  
Sheryl



Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, her eyes are not reactive at all.

I don't think she can close her eyes.  I did not see her close her
eyes or blink at any point past the first seizure.

I do not know what happens when she is sleeping, though.  I will ask
when I go in to see her after work.

I'm wondering if she is blind..can seizures cause blindness?  I'm
really lost here.


On 5/27/07, Pam Norman 
 wrote:
> And her eyes are not reactive? At all?
>
> If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?
>
>
> P
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
> > hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
> >
> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman 
 wrote:
> >> How does she respond to you?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> >> > Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
> >> > dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.  She's being
> >> > monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
> >> > starting at 6 am and been there once.
> >> >
> >> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman 
 wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
> >> >> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing
> >> >> her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy, who is
> >> >> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another, knock on
> >> >> >wood. Apparently this happens.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Pam
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
> >> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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>


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Re: Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

No, her eyes are not reactive at all.

I don't think she can close her eyes.  I did not see her close her
eyes or blink at any point past the first seizure.

I do not know what happens when she is sleeping, though.  I will ask
when I go in to see her after work.

I'm wondering if she is blind..can seizures cause blindness?  I'm
really lost here.


On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

And her eyes are not reactive? At all?

If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?


P

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
> hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..
>
> On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How does she respond to you?
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>> > Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
>> > dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.  She's being
>> > monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
>> > starting at 6 am and been there once.
>> >
>> > On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
>> >> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing
>> >> her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy, who is
>> >> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another, knock on
>> >> >wood. Apparently this happens.
>> >> >
>> >> >Pam
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>> >> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>






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Re: Kelley

[Pam Norman]

And her eyes are not reactive? At all?

If she can't blink, does that mean she can't close her eyes?


P

Kelley Saveika wrote:

Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..

On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How does she respond to you?



Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
> dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.  She's being
> monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
> starting at 6 am and been there once.
>
> On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
>> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing
>> her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?
>>
>> >
>> >Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy, who is
>> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another, knock on
>> >wood. Apparently this happens.
>> >
>> >Pam
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

Well, she moved her head...but she can't blink her eyes...so it is
hard to say if she is moving her head because i am there..

On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How does she respond to you?



Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
> dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.  She's being
> monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
> starting at 6 am and been there once.
>
> On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
>> tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing
>> her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?
>>
>> >
>> >Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy, who is
>> >now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another, knock on
>> >wood. Apparently this happens.
>> >
>> >Pam
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>> >269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>






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Re: Kelley

[Pam Norman]

How does she respond to you?



Kelley Saveika wrote:

Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.  She's being
monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
starting at 6 am and been there once.

On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing
her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?

>
>Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy, who is
>now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another, knock on
>wood. Apparently this happens.
>
>Pam
>
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>
>
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM

Re: Kelley

[Kelly L]

At 08:59 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:



Good ,,keep 'em on their toes!!Keep us up to date please,,,
Kelly



Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.  She's being
monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
starting at 6 am and been there once.

On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing
her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?

>
>Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy, who is
>now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another, knock on
>wood. Apparently this happens.
>
>Pam
>
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>
>
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM









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269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM





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Re: Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

Yes, I can see her at any time - I better be abel to as I am paying
dearly.  They aren't closed..she's at the emergency vet.  She's being
monitored around the clock.  I've called up there 5 times today
starting at 6 am and been there once.

On 5/27/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed
tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing
her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?

>
>Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy, who is
>now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another, knock on
>wood. Apparently this happens.
>
>Pam
>
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
>
>
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database:
>269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM










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Kelley

[Pam Norman]

Is there any way you can see Caroline tomorrow? If they're closed 
tomorrow, isn't there a vet on call that you can contact about seeing 
her? Did they say what they mean about being non-responsive?




Have you ever  had a cat before that had seizures?  My Paddy, who is 
now 22, had one about 2 years ago & has never had another, knock on 
wood. Apparently this happens.


Pam



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Re: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

My girlfriend's regular doctor?  I guess I meant not the vet!

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 9, 2007, at 10:17 PM, Taylor Scobie Humphrey wrote:

My girlfriend had to have her colon removed and her regular doctor  
told her to take colostrum.


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 8, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Marylyn wrote:


For what it matters my alternative vet swears by the stuff.






 If you have men  
who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter  
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal  
likewise with their fellow man.
   
St. Francis

- Original Message -
From: Nina
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:19 AM
Subject: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of  
Zithromax?)


I have a friend that swears Transfer Factor (an immune regulator)  
saved the life of a cat of hers with panleuk.  I've used it in the  
past too.  Lance on the list thinks it helps his Ember.  Anyway,  
it couldn't hurt to try it.  Most of my guys like the flavor, I  
mix it with baby food.  Here's my original post about it:


> Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is  
taken from
cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks.  The  
idea is

to "educate" an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into
balance and help it ward off illness.  I'm not even sure if it works,
but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill  
effects,

even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended.  There
have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.)  
from some

of the folks I know who are using it.  There are several different
formulas for people and animals.

Here's a link to the manufacture info about Transfer Factor:
http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com

Here's the ordering info:

The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374.

www.4life.com <http://www.4life.com>


Susan Hoffman wrote:
From what you have said I would be a little concerned about  
panleuk.  But you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.

Re: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

My girlfriend had to have her colon removed and her regular doctor  
told her to take colostrum.


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 8, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Marylyn wrote:


For what it matters my alternative vet swears by the stuff.






 If you have men  
who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter  
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise  
with their fellow man.
   
St. Francis

- Original Message -
From: Nina
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:19 AM
Subject: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)

I have a friend that swears Transfer Factor (an immune regulator)  
saved the life of a cat of hers with panleuk.  I've used it in the  
past too.  Lance on the list thinks it helps his Ember.  Anyway, it  
couldn't hurt to try it.  Most of my guys like the flavor, I mix it  
with baby food.  Here's my original post about it:


> Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is  
taken from
cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks.  The  
idea is

to "educate" an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into
balance and help it ward off illness.  I'm not even sure if it works,
but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects,
even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended.  There
have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from  
some

of the folks I know who are using it.  There are several different
formulas for people and animals.

Here's a link to the manufacture info about Transfer Factor:
http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com

Here's the ordering info:

The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374.

www.4life.com <http://www.4life.com>


Susan Hoffman wrote:
From what you have said I would be a little concerned about  
panleuk.  But you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.

Re: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)

[Marylyn]

For what it matters my alternative vet swears by the stuff.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nina 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:19 AM
  Subject: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)


  I have a friend that swears Transfer Factor (an immune regulator) saved the 
life of a cat of hers with panleuk.  I've used it in the past too.  Lance on 
the list thinks it helps his Ember.  Anyway, it couldn't hurt to try it.  Most 
of my guys like the flavor, I mix it with baby food.  Here's my original post 
about it:

  > Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from 
  cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks.  The idea is 
  to "educate" an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into 
  balance and help it ward off illness.  I'm not even sure if it works, 
  but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects, 
  even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended.  There 
  have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some 
  of the folks I know who are using it.  There are several different 
  formulas for people and animals.  

  Here's a link to the manufacture info about Transfer Factor:
  http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com

  Here's the ordering info:

  The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374.  

  www.4life.com <http://www.4life.com>


  Susan Hoffman wrote:

From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk.  But 
you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.   

Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)

[Nina]

I have a friend that swears Transfer Factor (an immune regulator) saved 
the life of a cat of hers with panleuk.  I've used it in the past too.  
Lance on the list thinks it helps his Ember.  Anyway, it couldn't hurt 
to try it.  Most of my guys like the flavor, I mix it with baby food.  
Here's my original post about it:


> Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from
cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks.  The idea is
to "educate" an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into
balance and help it ward off illness.  I'm not even sure if it works,
but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects,
even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended.  There
have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some
of the folks I know who are using it.  There are several different
formulas for people and animals. 


Here's a link to the manufacture info about Transfer Factor:
http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com 



Here's the ordering info:

The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. 


www.4life.com 


Susan Hoffman wrote:
From what you have said I would be a little concerned about 
panleuk.  But you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.  
*//*

Re: My candle . . .For Kelley and her Furkids

[Kelley Saveika]

Thank you so much..this is so sweet of you.

On 5/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 [image: Light A 
Candle]
I have lit a candle...For Kelly and all your furbabies...those at the
Bridge and those with you. I know these losses are so hard!!! Know that
we're here for you and that all your babies are s lucky to have you!

Hugs, blessings, and GLOW!

Marissa, Mouse, Georgia, and Angel Slinky >^..^<

Click here to see the 
candle





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My candle . . .For Kelley and her Furkids

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I have lit a candle...For Kelly and all 
your furbabies...those at the Bridge 
and those with you.  I know these 
losses are so hard!!!  Know that we're 
here for you and that all your babies 
are s lucky to have you!

Hugs, blessings, and GLOW!

Marissa, Mouse, Georgia, and Angel 
Slinky >^..^<

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To Kelley: Re: OT - ARGH to Pet Health Pharmacy

[wendy]

Kelley,

This really sucks!  I would have lost faith in them as
well.  Did you ask to speak to a manager and tell them
everything that happened, start to finish?  When this
kind of thing happens, I try to speak to someone
higher up so that they are aware there's a problem and
can fix it.  If I get bad customer service, like at
Walmart (imagine that), I let the manager know and I
usually get very good response, and then they are
aware of a potential customer service issue that can
be corrected.  The service you received was
inexcusable, and I am betting given the opportunity,
they would make it right.

:)
Wendy

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world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" 

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RE: To Kelley: Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion neededon site visit for Maltese shelter

[JENI RECA]

Hi Kelley,
Maybe you should inquire with them if they have a back up plan if the city 
does try to inforce thier pet limit law, like what are they going to do with 
the animals.  The only thing I think of is that you wouldnt want to place an 
animal in a home and maybe that animal is the breaking point for a neighbor, 
plus people are very fickle (we are not allowed to park in our driveway, we 
live in a city, because a neighbor complained and called the city and our 
drive way is not up to code because it doesnt have a cut out at the front of 
the drive..go figure!)  but at the same time we are over our limit of 
animals and luckily nobody has complained (cross my fingers!)  It is a fine 
line as you want to place the animal in the best home possible and they may 
be it, but at the same time you wouldnt want anything to happen to that 
animal, and also you wouldnt want the shelter to get in trouble for knowing 
that person was over thier limit and still placed an animal in thier home.  
good luck

Jeni


From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: To Kelley: Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion 
neededon site visit for Maltese shelter

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:40:40 -0700 (PDT)

Hey Kelley,

Well, I am definitely in violation of city
codes...lol.  So I have no judgement to make.  I just
didn't know if there were certain written or
un-written rules that shelters follow when it comes to
that particular issue.  The contract does ask how many
animals live in the home, so I know it's a factor.
I'll be interested to hear what the shelter owner
decides to do.  She's in Austin too.

How's Joey doing today?

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, I think pet limit laws are archaic and silly
> and should be abolished.
>
> But that's beside the point.
>
> What if the city code were 6 dogs and 5 cats and
> tomorrow they changed
> it to 3 dogs and 2 cats?  I mean, you can't predict
> the future.  What
> if they move somewhere where the code is only 4
> dogs?
>
> How many of us have had animals
>
> 1.  in excess of city codes
> 2.  in excess of what was allowed by our landlord
> 3.  in secret from our landlord
> 4...well, I think you get the point.
>
> Fortunately we don't have animal limit laws here,
> though the shelter
> limits me to 10 (personal and foster) animals at a
> time.
>
> They only count litters as 1, though.  So all my
> litters, including
> the ones that are almost 2 years old, I count as 1.
> That's how I get
> around it.  Heh.
>
> On 4/12/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I went on my first site visit tonight with my
> friend
> > who lives here in San Antonio.  The only real
> concern
> > she and I both had were that the family already
> has 5
> > dogs and 5 cats.  They live in a regular
> subdivision
> > home in San Antonio (regular size plot-nothing too
> > large, although the backyard is nicely sized).
> The
> > municipal code says that no more than 5 dogs and 3
> > cats be in one home at a time.  So our question,
> > especially to shelter owners/volunteers, is this:
> if
> > you know adopting a dog out, even if it's to a
> good
> > family, will put that family in violation of city
> > codes, would you do it?  My friend is not the one
> > making the decision; she's just reporting the
> > information to the shelter.  We were just curious
> as
> > to what your thoughts are on this.
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it
> is the only thing that ever has!"
> >
>   ~~~ Margaret Meade
> ~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

> > TV dinner still cooling?
> > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
> > http://tv.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
> Please help Joey!
>
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
>
>


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Re: To Kelley: Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion needed on site visit for Maltese shelter

[wendy]

Wow!  I think this is really cool!  I looked at the
website and subpages, and I think the video and
fundraiser are both great ideas.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh, we are having a big fundraiser on May 4, with
> the first Austin
> screening of Rescue Me
> 
> www.rescuemedocumentary.com
> 
> I anticipate making at least enough for Joey's
> sonogram.
> 
> Kelley
> 
> On 4/13/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Wendy,
> >
> > All shelters do things differently.  The most
> progressive ones don't
> > have cut and dried rules, but have a set of open
> ended questions that
> > help find a match for the family.
> >
> > Joey probably feels better than I do today, since
> he doesn't have
> > stomach flu.  But maybe not since I am pretty sure
> he has giardia,
> > which I am treating with flagyl.
> >
> > It is kind of hard to tell how he is doing without
> bloodwork, because
> > he appears to feel pretty good for a 10 year old
> cat - I mean he
> > doesn't run around hte house, but he gets up in my
> lap, fights the vet
> > when he wants to take blood, etc.
> >
> > Now Kitty is not feeling well at all.  They are
> keeping her at the vet
> > until Monday.
> >
> > On 4/13/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hey Kelley,
> > >
> > > Well, I am definitely in violation of city
> > > codes...lol.  So I have no judgement to make.  I
> just
> > > didn't know if there were certain written or
> > > un-written rules that shelters follow when it
> comes to
> > > that particular issue.  The contract does ask
> how many
> > > animals live in the home, so I know it's a
> factor.
> > > I'll be interested to hear what the shelter
> owner
> > > decides to do.  She's in Austin too.
> > >
> > > How's Joey doing today?
> > >
> > > :)
> > > Wendy
> > >
> > > --- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, I think pet limit laws are archaic and
> silly
> > > > and should be abolished.
> > > >
> > > > But that's beside the point.
> > > >
> > > > What if the city code were 6 dogs and 5 cats
> and
> > > > tomorrow they changed
> > > > it to 3 dogs and 2 cats?  I mean, you can't
> predict
> > > > the future.  What
> > > > if they move somewhere where the code is only
> 4
> > > > dogs?
> > > >
> > > > How many of us have had animals
> > > >
> > > > 1.  in excess of city codes
> > > > 2.  in excess of what was allowed by our
> landlord
> > > > 3.  in secret from our landlord
> > > > 4...well, I think you get the point.
> > > >
> > > > Fortunately we don't have animal limit laws
> here,
> > > > though the shelter
> > > > limits me to 10 (personal and foster) animals
> at a
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > They only count litters as 1, though.  So all
> my
> > > > litters, including
> > > > the ones that are almost 2 years old, I count
> as 1.
> > > > That's how I get
> > > > around it.  Heh.
> > > >
> > > > On 4/12/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Hey guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > I went on my first site visit tonight with
> my
> > > > friend
> > > > > who lives here in San Antonio.  The only
> real
> > > > concern
> > > > > she and I both had were that the family
> already
> > > > has 5
> > > > > dogs and 5 cats.  They live in a regular
> > > > subdivision
> > > > > home in San Antonio (regular size
> plot-nothing too
> > > > > large, although the backyard is nicely
> sized).
> > > > The
> > > > > municipal code says that no more than 5 dogs
> and 3
> > > > > cats be in one home at a time.  So our
> question,
> > > > > especially to shelter owners/volunteers, is
> this:
> > > > if
> > > > > you know adopting a dog out, even if it's to
> a
> > > > good
> > > > > family, will put that family in violation of
> city
> > > > > codes, would you do it?  My friend is not
> the one
> > > > > maki

Re: To Kelley: Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion needed on site visit for Maltese shelter

[Kelley Saveika]

Oh, we are having a big fundraiser on May 4, with the first Austin
screening of Rescue Me

www.rescuemedocumentary.com

I anticipate making at least enough for Joey's sonogram.

Kelley

On 4/13/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Wendy,

All shelters do things differently.  The most progressive ones don't
have cut and dried rules, but have a set of open ended questions that
help find a match for the family.

Joey probably feels better than I do today, since he doesn't have
stomach flu.  But maybe not since I am pretty sure he has giardia,
which I am treating with flagyl.

It is kind of hard to tell how he is doing without bloodwork, because
he appears to feel pretty good for a 10 year old cat - I mean he
doesn't run around hte house, but he gets up in my lap, fights the vet
when he wants to take blood, etc.

Now Kitty is not feeling well at all.  They are keeping her at the vet
until Monday.

On 4/13/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Kelley,
>
> Well, I am definitely in violation of city
> codes...lol.  So I have no judgement to make.  I just
> didn't know if there were certain written or
> un-written rules that shelters follow when it comes to
> that particular issue.  The contract does ask how many
> animals live in the home, so I know it's a factor.
> I'll be interested to hear what the shelter owner
> decides to do.  She's in Austin too.
>
> How's Joey doing today?
>
> :)
> Wendy
>
> --- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Well, I think pet limit laws are archaic and silly
> > and should be abolished.
> >
> > But that's beside the point.
> >
> > What if the city code were 6 dogs and 5 cats and
> > tomorrow they changed
> > it to 3 dogs and 2 cats?  I mean, you can't predict
> > the future.  What
> > if they move somewhere where the code is only 4
> > dogs?
> >
> > How many of us have had animals
> >
> > 1.  in excess of city codes
> > 2.  in excess of what was allowed by our landlord
> > 3.  in secret from our landlord
> > 4...well, I think you get the point.
> >
> > Fortunately we don't have animal limit laws here,
> > though the shelter
> > limits me to 10 (personal and foster) animals at a
> > time.
> >
> > They only count litters as 1, though.  So all my
> > litters, including
> > the ones that are almost 2 years old, I count as 1.
> > That's how I get
> > around it.  Heh.
> >
> > On 4/12/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hey guys,
> > >
> > > I went on my first site visit tonight with my
> > friend
> > > who lives here in San Antonio.  The only real
> > concern
> > > she and I both had were that the family already
> > has 5
> > > dogs and 5 cats.  They live in a regular
> > subdivision
> > > home in San Antonio (regular size plot-nothing too
> > > large, although the backyard is nicely sized).
> > The
> > > municipal code says that no more than 5 dogs and 3
> > > cats be in one home at a time.  So our question,
> > > especially to shelter owners/volunteers, is this:
> > if
> > > you know adopting a dog out, even if it's to a
> > good
> > > family, will put that family in violation of city
> > > codes, would you do it?  My friend is not the one
> > > making the decision; she's just reporting the
> > > information to the shelter.  We were just curious
> > as
> > > to what your thoughts are on this.
> > >
> > > :)
> > > Wendy
> > >
> > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> > committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it
> > is the only thing that ever has!"
> > >
> >   ~~~ Margaret Meade
> > ~~~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 

> > > TV dinner still cooling?
> > > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
> > > http://tv.yahoo.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> >
> > Please help Joey!
> >
> http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
> >
> >
>
>
> "Never doubt that a small group

Re: To Kelley: Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion needed on site visit for Maltese shelter

[Kelley Saveika]

Hi Wendy,

All shelters do things differently.  The most progressive ones don't
have cut and dried rules, but have a set of open ended questions that
help find a match for the family.

Joey probably feels better than I do today, since he doesn't have
stomach flu.  But maybe not since I am pretty sure he has giardia,
which I am treating with flagyl.

It is kind of hard to tell how he is doing without bloodwork, because
he appears to feel pretty good for a 10 year old cat - I mean he
doesn't run around hte house, but he gets up in my lap, fights the vet
when he wants to take blood, etc.

Now Kitty is not feeling well at all.  They are keeping her at the vet
until Monday.

On 4/13/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey Kelley,

Well, I am definitely in violation of city
codes...lol.  So I have no judgement to make.  I just
didn't know if there were certain written or
un-written rules that shelters follow when it comes to
that particular issue.  The contract does ask how many
animals live in the home, so I know it's a factor.
I'll be interested to hear what the shelter owner
decides to do.  She's in Austin too.

How's Joey doing today?

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, I think pet limit laws are archaic and silly
> and should be abolished.
>
> But that's beside the point.
>
> What if the city code were 6 dogs and 5 cats and
> tomorrow they changed
> it to 3 dogs and 2 cats?  I mean, you can't predict
> the future.  What
> if they move somewhere where the code is only 4
> dogs?
>
> How many of us have had animals
>
> 1.  in excess of city codes
> 2.  in excess of what was allowed by our landlord
> 3.  in secret from our landlord
> 4...well, I think you get the point.
>
> Fortunately we don't have animal limit laws here,
> though the shelter
> limits me to 10 (personal and foster) animals at a
> time.
>
> They only count litters as 1, though.  So all my
> litters, including
> the ones that are almost 2 years old, I count as 1.
> That's how I get
> around it.  Heh.
>
> On 4/12/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I went on my first site visit tonight with my
> friend
> > who lives here in San Antonio.  The only real
> concern
> > she and I both had were that the family already
> has 5
> > dogs and 5 cats.  They live in a regular
> subdivision
> > home in San Antonio (regular size plot-nothing too
> > large, although the backyard is nicely sized).
> The
> > municipal code says that no more than 5 dogs and 3
> > cats be in one home at a time.  So our question,
> > especially to shelter owners/volunteers, is this:
> if
> > you know adopting a dog out, even if it's to a
> good
> > family, will put that family in violation of city
> > codes, would you do it?  My friend is not the one
> > making the decision; she's just reporting the
> > information to the shelter.  We were just curious
> as
> > to what your thoughts are on this.
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it
> is the only thing that ever has!"
> >
>   ~~~ Margaret Meade
> ~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

> > TV dinner still cooling?
> > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
> > http://tv.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
> Please help Joey!
>
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
>
>


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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia

To Kelley: Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion needed on site visit for Maltese shelter

[wendy]

Hey Kelley,

Well, I am definitely in violation of city
codes...lol.  So I have no judgement to make.  I just
didn't know if there were certain written or
un-written rules that shelters follow when it comes to
that particular issue.  The contract does ask how many
animals live in the home, so I know it's a factor. 
I'll be interested to hear what the shelter owner
decides to do.  She's in Austin too.

How's Joey doing today?

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, I think pet limit laws are archaic and silly
> and should be abolished.
> 
> But that's beside the point.
> 
> What if the city code were 6 dogs and 5 cats and
> tomorrow they changed
> it to 3 dogs and 2 cats?  I mean, you can't predict
> the future.  What
> if they move somewhere where the code is only 4
> dogs?
> 
> How many of us have had animals
> 
> 1.  in excess of city codes
> 2.  in excess of what was allowed by our landlord
> 3.  in secret from our landlord
> 4...well, I think you get the point.
> 
> Fortunately we don't have animal limit laws here,
> though the shelter
> limits me to 10 (personal and foster) animals at a
> time.
> 
> They only count litters as 1, though.  So all my
> litters, including
> the ones that are almost 2 years old, I count as 1. 
> That's how I get
> around it.  Heh.
> 
> On 4/12/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I went on my first site visit tonight with my
> friend
> > who lives here in San Antonio.  The only real
> concern
> > she and I both had were that the family already
> has 5
> > dogs and 5 cats.  They live in a regular
> subdivision
> > home in San Antonio (regular size plot-nothing too
> > large, although the backyard is nicely sized). 
> The
> > municipal code says that no more than 5 dogs and 3
> > cats be in one home at a time.  So our question,
> > especially to shelter owners/volunteers, is this:
> if
> > you know adopting a dog out, even if it's to a
> good
> > family, will put that family in violation of city
> > codes, would you do it?  My friend is not the one
> > making the decision; she's just reporting the
> > information to the shelter.  We were just curious
> as
> > to what your thoughts are on this.
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it
> is the only thing that ever has!"
> >   
>   ~~~ Margaret Meade
> ~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

> > TV dinner still cooling?
> > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
> > http://tv.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> 
> http://www.rescuties.org
> 
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> 
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> 
> Please help Joey!
>
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
> 
> 


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world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" 

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To Kelley: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good

[wendy]

Hey Kelley,

What I noticed with these different results is Joey's
reticulocyte count.  I think the higher, the better. 
According to wikipedia, "Reticulocytes are immature
red blood cells, typically composing about 1% of the
red cells in the human body" (or kitty body per me).
"Reticulocytes develop and mature in the red bone
marrow and then circulate for about a day in the blood
stream before developing into mature red blood cells.
Like mature red blood cells, reticulocytes do not have
a cell nucleus. They are called reticulocytes because
of a reticular (mesh-like) network of ribosomal RNA
that becomes visible under a microscope with certain
stains such as new methylene blue.  I noticed that
Joey's reticulocyte count is fairly high on this last
set of labs, compared to the week before when they
were lower.  I hope this means good things for him. 
Maybe the wbc's are not killing off the rbc's so
quickly now, explaining his unexplained health?

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sure.
> 
> 3/21/07 CBC
> 
> WBC 21.5
> LYM 0.62
> MONO 1.85
> NEU 18.44
> EOS 0.51
> BASO .008
> HCT 15.3
> RBC 3.23
> HGB 8.5
> RETIC 11.3
> MCV 47.4
> RDW 22.3
> MCH 26.36
> PLT 731
> MPV 9.29
> PCT 0.7%
> PDW 22.7%
> 
> 
> 3/26/2007
> 
> WBC 16.96
> LYM 0.81
> MONO 1.52
> NEU 14.38
> BOS 0.22
> BASO 0.05
> HCT 12.6
> RBC 2.59
> HGB 7.9
> RETIC 9.3
> MCV 48.9
> RDW 22.4
> MCH 30.39
> PLT 815
> MPC 10.38
> PCT 0.8%
> PDW 22.0%
> 
> 4/4/2007
> WBC 25.85
> LYM 0.84
> MONO 2.24
> NEU 22.43
> EOS .27
> BASO 0.07
> HCT 13.5
> RBC 2.71
> HGB 5.7
> RETIC 21.0
> MCV 50.0
> RDW 20.5
> MCH 20.95
> PLT 425
> MPV 17.09
> PCT 0.7
> PDW 22.6
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Could you post everything?  If you can with what
> was before and what's
> > now even thought they are within the normal range,
> that will be great!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
> > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:35 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
> >
> > Hideyo,
> >
> > I have all his blood values.  I will give the ones
> out of normal
> > range..if you want the others let me know..
> >
> > WBC 25.85- up 16.9, ws in normal range, Mono 2.24,
> Neu, 22.43, up 14,
> > hct 13.5, up 1%, rbc 2.71, hgb 5.7, mch 20.95.
> >
> >
> > On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > What's the PCV?  You usually don't give
> transfusions until PCV is down
> > > below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill -
> > >
> > > I personally say not to worry about WBC being up
> -- at least it means
> > > that the body is generating blood -
> > >
> > > How is the rest of the blood work look like, do
> you know?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of wendy
> > > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
> > >
> > > Kelley,
> > >
> > > Prayers going out for little Joey.
> > >
> > > :)
> > > Wendy
> > >
> > > --- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am concerned, to put it mildly.
> > > >
> > > > My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very
> slightly.
> > > > I think the RBC
> > > > went from 2.59 to 2.75.  His white blood cell
> count
> > > > is back up again,
> > > > though - it had gone down last bloodwork.
> > > >
> > > > He still feels very good, and that's why my
> vet says
> > > > to keep going.
> > > > If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to
> stop
> > > > now.
> > > >
> > > > I asked him about transfusion/epogen.  He says
> with
> > > > this type of
> > > > anemia, it just gives the white blood cells
> more
> > > > material to destroy.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a
> time.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.rescuties.org
> > > >
> > > > Vist the Rescuties sto

Re: Chip in for Joey - Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

Patti,

I don't know how much to thank you.  That was far too much money for you to
be giving.

Kelley


On 4/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Nina,
I just made a contribution for Joey & it worked well. Even got a
confirmation.
Don't understand why you had a problem.[]
Hugs,
 Patti & her gang



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Re: Chip in for Joey - Kelley

[PEC2851]

Nina,
I just made a contribution for Joey & it worked well. Even got a  
confirmation.
Don't understand why you had a problem.[]
Hugs,

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Re: Chip in for Joey - Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

Hi Gina,

That is so sweet of you!

One kitten looks like brown tabby, two orange and white, one orange,
and one gray.  No black kittens, thank goodness (I love them just like
any other kittens but they are horribly hard to adopt out).

I'm swimming in cats.we pulled 15 2 weeks ago, one mom, 5 babies,
3 bottle babies ~ 2 weeks old, and 5 bottle babies ~4 weeks old.
These all went to one wonderful foster's house.  I went back and
picked up 3 that are eating canned food and trying to eat solids.

So many moms with litters die in the shelter here..it is horrific.

I'm trying to recruit fosters as fast as I can.  I wish I didn't have
a full time job so I could just do this all the time...But if I didn't
have a full time job I couldn't afford to do it...so glad we are a
501(c)(3) now so that contributions are tax deductible.  It gives me a
lot more options.

Perhaps I mistyped the link.

Try this

http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia

and if it doesn't work email me again and we will figure it out.

On 4/8/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Kelley,
I know it's a mixed blessing, but a blessing none the less to have
Faith's babies born in the safety of your home.  What lucky little
angels.  What a wonderful turn of events for Faith to find herself with
you.  Gotta love the babies!  Are they all tabbies?

I just tried to "chip in" on Joey's page and got hung up on the
transfer.  When you have a minute, could you go and check that it's
working properly?
Nina






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Chip in for Joey - Kelley

[Nina]

Hi Kelley,
I know it's a mixed blessing, but a blessing none the less to have 
Faith's babies born in the safety of your home.  What lucky little 
angels.  What a wonderful turn of events for Faith to find herself with 
you.  Gotta love the babies!  Are they all tabbies?


I just tried to "chip in" on Joey's page and got hung up on the 
transfer.  When you have a minute, could you go and check that it's 
working properly?

Nina

Re: To Kelley: RE: Small meltdown

[Gina WN]

I often have to explain to my husband why I'm crying and it's generally over an 
Internet friend's cat who is sick or who has died.  He seems to get it now! :)
   
  Gina
  

wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  lololol...should I be laughing at this??? it does
sound crazy, but we all know you aren't.

thanks for the endorphins

:)
wendy

--- Kelley Saveika wrote:

> Wendy,
> 
> I have meltdowns nearly every day just reading this
> list. I can
> barely read the feline heart list at all. And yeah,
> I cry at work
> too. It isn't good...
> 
> Try explaining to your boss that you aren't crying
> over your own
> cat...you are crying over your Internet friends' cat
> that you've never
> met (the friend or the cat).
> 
> 
> 
> Kelley
> 
> On 4/3/07, wendy wrote:
> > Leah,
> >
> > In a twisted way, I am glad I'm not alone. Of
> course,
> > in my own utopia, I would never wish those kinds
> of
> > memories on anyone. You used the perfect
> > term...agonizing. Prayers going out for peace for
> all
> > of us.
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > --- "Wolf, Leah R." wrote:
> >
> > > Wendy,
> > >
> > > You are not alone. It took two weeks for my
> Bubba
> > > to die from felv and
> > > watching him slip away inch by inch was
> agonizing.
> > > When I think of him, I
> > > have to force myself not to dwell on the
> experience
> > > or else I will break
> > > down all over again.
> > >
> > >
> > > Leah
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of wendy
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:05 AM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: OT: Small meltdown
> > >
> > > Hey guys,
> > >
> > > Why is it that even a year and a half after
> > > Cricket's passing, I can burst
> > > into tears after having flashbacks of the night
> he
> > > died? To a logical
> > > person (being me), it sounds ridiculous and
> > > overdramatic.
> > > But the fact remains that when I allow myself to
> > > remember what happened with
> > > Cricket the night he died, and how horrible it
> was,
> > > it sends me straight
> > > into meltdown. I am at work for heaven's sake.
> > > Usually, when I think about
> > > Cricket, I don't think about that one day in his
> > > life. But it seems so
> > > unfair that he couldn't have a more peaceful
> death.
> > > I will never forget his
> > > suffering, even knowing that he is now at rest. 
> Why
> > > do some
> > > people's/animal's last days of their lives have
> to
> > > be filled with pain and
> > > suffering?
> > > I just don't understand it. I think maybe all
> the
> > > recent losses, and sadly
> > > there have been many, might be bringing my
> memories
> > > back, but maybe that's a
> > > good thing? Maybe we never really fully stop
> > > grieving, but every little
> > > meltdown we have allows us to heal a little
> more.
> > >
> > > Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of
> > > understanding of the meaning
> > > of life.
> > > :)
> > > Wendy
> > >
> > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> > > committed citizens can change
> > > the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever
> > > has!"
> > >
> > > ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

> > > 
> > > Get your own web address.
> > > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
> > >
> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it
> is the only thing that ever has!"
> > 
> ~~~ Margaret Meade
> ~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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> 
> http://www.rescuties.org
> 
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> 
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> 
> Please help Joey!
>
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Re: To Kelley: RE: Small meltdown

[wendy]

I need to join the CRF list for my Julie, but really
don't want to.  Not only because of the number of
emails I try to keep up with for two feline groups,
but I'm scared of what I will find there.  Ignorance
really is bliss sometimes.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 4/3/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > lololol...should I be laughing at this???  it does
> > sound crazy, but we all know you aren't.
> >
> > thanks for the endorphins
> >
> > :)
> > wendy
> >
> This is how the conversation goes
> 
> I'm sitting here crying, and the guy in the cube
> next to me says:
> "What's wrong?"
> 
> Me:  (I don't remember name of cat) died.
> 
> Guy:  Oh, a close friend?
> 
> Me:  No, a cat
> 
> Guy:  I'm sorry you lost your cat.
> 
> Me:  No, (cat) was a friend's cat.
> 
> Guy:  Which friend?
> 
> Me:  Hideyo.
> 
> I don't remember how the rest went, but somehow it
> came out that
> Hideyo was an internet friend.  So now they just
> kind of ignore me
> when I'm crying.
> 
> Todays tears are sponsored by Sue's Pepper, from the
> feline heart
> list, which I dared to sneak over and try to read,
> and I sorely regret
> it.
> 
> 


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Re: To Kelley: RE: Small meltdown

[Kelley Saveika]

On 4/3/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

lololol...should I be laughing at this???  it does
sound crazy, but we all know you aren't.

thanks for the endorphins

:)
wendy


This is how the conversation goes

I'm sitting here crying, and the guy in the cube next to me says:
"What's wrong?"

Me:  (I don't remember name of cat) died.

Guy:  Oh, a close friend?

Me:  No, a cat

Guy:  I'm sorry you lost your cat.

Me:  No, (cat) was a friend's cat.

Guy:  Which friend?

Me:  Hideyo.

I don't remember how the rest went, but somehow it came out that
Hideyo was an internet friend.  So now they just kind of ignore me
when I'm crying.

Todays tears are sponsored by Sue's Pepper, from the feline heart
list, which I dared to sneak over and try to read, and I sorely regret
it.

Re: To Kelley: RE: Small meltdown

[wendy]

lololol...should I be laughing at this???  it does
sound crazy, but we all know you aren't.

thanks for the endorphins

:)
wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wendy,
> 
> I have meltdowns nearly every day just reading this
> list.  I can
> barely read the feline heart list at all.  And yeah,
> I cry at work
> too.  It isn't good...
> 
> Try explaining to your boss that you aren't crying
> over your own
> cat...you are crying over your Internet friends' cat
> that you've never
> met (the friend or the cat).
> 
> 
> 
> Kelley
> 
> On 4/3/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Leah,
> >
> > In a twisted way, I am glad I'm not alone.  Of
> course,
> > in my own utopia, I would never wish those kinds
> of
> > memories on anyone.  You used the perfect
> > term...agonizing.  Prayers going out for peace for
> all
> > of us.
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > --- "Wolf, Leah R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Wendy,
> > >
> > > You are not alone.  It took two weeks for my
> Bubba
> > > to die from felv and
> > > watching him slip away inch by inch was
> agonizing.
> > > When I think of him, I
> > > have to force myself not to dwell on the
> experience
> > > or else I will break
> > > down all over again.
> > >
> > >
> > > Leah
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of wendy
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:05 AM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: OT: Small meltdown
> > >
> > > Hey guys,
> > >
> > > Why is it that even a year and a half after
> > > Cricket's passing, I can burst
> > > into tears after having flashbacks of the night
> he
> > > died?  To a logical
> > > person (being me), it sounds ridiculous and
> > > overdramatic.
> > > But the fact remains that when I allow myself to
> > > remember what happened with
> > > Cricket the night he died, and how horrible it
> was,
> > > it sends me straight
> > > into meltdown.  I am at work for heaven's sake.
> > > Usually, when I think about
> > > Cricket, I don't think about that one day in his
> > > life.  But it seems so
> > > unfair that he couldn't have a more peaceful
> death.
> > > I will never forget his
> > > suffering, even knowing that he is now at rest. 
> Why
> > > do some
> > > people's/animal's last days of their lives have
> to
> > > be filled with pain and
> > > suffering?
> > >  I just don't understand it.  I think maybe all
> the
> > > recent losses, and sadly
> > > there have been many, might be bringing my
> memories
> > > back, but maybe that's a
> > > good thing?  Maybe we never really fully stop
> > > grieving, but every little
> > > meltdown we have allows us to heal a little
> more.
> > >
> > > Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of
> > > understanding of the meaning
> > > of life.
> > > :)
> > > Wendy
> > >
> > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> > > committed citizens can change
> > > the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever
> > > has!"
> > >
> > > ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

> > > 
> > > Get your own web address.
> > > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
> > >
> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it
> is the only thing that ever has!"
> >   
>   ~~~ Margaret Meade
> ~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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> 
> http://www.rescuties.org
> 
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> 
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> 
> Please help Joey!
>
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> 
> 


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To Kelley: Re: Feline leukemia info from Best Friends

[wendy]

Kelley,

Thanks for this info.  I have never seen it.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I imagine most of you have seen this, but for those
> who haven't:
> 
>
http://www.bestfriends.org/archives/forums/041105fivfeleuk.html
> 
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Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

I called my vet yesterday and he says typically autoimmune anemia is
regenerative, but to be sure we have to send it off to the lab.  It could
also be caused by cancer (I hope not) in which case it would be
non-regenerative.


On 3/27/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 If he is non regenerative anemia –you might want to try epogen – have you
used it on him yet?  I can try to get one for you and ship it if you like to
try for Joey –



Hideyo


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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:14 AM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley



Aww Nina, Thanks.  He is pretty comfortable right now, despite his
shockingly low RBC.  He was eating this morning.  He gained 3 ounces in 4
days which is GREAT.  I just don't know what it means that the RBC is still
going down, but the WBC is going down too.   The WBC is within normal
range.



He's only 10, which realistically means he could quite a few years left if
he can beat this.  It isn't like he's 20, in which case I might make a
different choice.



I'm also getting really good at pilling cats.  He's declawed (:() so he
can't claw me like my guys do.  He's good at spitting out the pills and can
hold them in his mouth FOREVER without swallowing so I had to get good at
getting them in there:)



On 3/27/07, *Nina* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm pretty darn sure the tax deduction would include interest on the loan,
no matter what the type of loan, (credit card or not), you'd have to ask
your tax consultant about that to be sure.  Like you say, having deductions
is all well and good, but if you don't have the income, it doesn't make much
difference.  It only changes your taxable income amount.  The money is still
out of your pocket and not available for the next rescue.

It's a nasty quandary, but it sounds like you've thought about this, (of
course you have, you're in rescue!), and as hard as the decision is, money
is a factor.  I've said it so many times before, sometimes all the money in
the world is not enough to save them.  Joey is so much better off with you
than he might otherwise be.  You care about him, he's safe and loved, you
are researching ways to help him.  He's been blessed with a wonderful ally
to fight for his chances and stand at his side.  My prayers are with you
that you continue to figure out ways to help Joey and he makes a full
recovery.
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:

No, you can't write off interest on credit cards.  It is worth it if he
lives.

On 3/27/07, *Gussies mom* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

Can you not write off some of the interest, too?



*Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

I am a nonprofit, I just don't have my letter of determination yet.  I am
expecting it before the end of the year, certainly before next tax year.
But that doesn't really help much - you get about 30 cents back on the
dollar.  I wrote off 3,000 last year and got an 1,800 refund.  When I am
paying 24% interest on this credit card I am using it is a very large
financial hit.  But he is going to get paid for anyway.  The problem is when
I run out of credit then it will be a very big issue.  I just have to keep
fundraising and make sure that doesnt' happen:).

On 3/27/07, *Stray Cat Alliance* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

If you are not a non profit then you could possibly try to work with one
-- so if you paid whatever monies to them for the services and they paid the
bills, you could get a tax write off from the IRS. You would need a receipt
from the nonprofit.

It is so kind of you to help the kitties and I know every cent counts!
Where is the money tree when we need it!

Anita

<http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia>




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Please help Joey!
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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Please help Joey!
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RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Not necessarily - the conditions of anemia itself is a decrease of RBD
whether it's regenerative or non regenerative - you can have
regenerative type like Felix, but something in the body is killing RBC
as generated.. so get destroyed as well.

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

 

Like I said before, I don't know enough about this, but wouldn't the
declining RBC mean that his anemia is non-regenerative?  I think it's
wonderful news that he seems comfortable and is eating, and gaining
weight!  That's a very good sign.  Sometimes I wish we didn't know what
the darn test results show, if he's appearing better, then he's doing
better!!

Heck, 10 years old is just a kid, (I should know I'm just past the
middle mark myself).

6 pills a day are a lot of pills.  Have you posted all his meds to the
list yet?  Are you using a pill popper?  Some of them are better then
others, (some have better spring action and really shoot the pill down
the old gullet). They also help you place the pill far enough back in
their throat so they can't "cheek" it.   I've gotten to be pretty good
at pilling using one.  Make sure and chase the pills with something
liquid.  If he'll lap some tuna water afterward, that should do it.
Have you tried my pill pocket technique on Joey yet?  When their
appetite is good it works like a charm.  The secret is to not use the
whole pill pocket, just enough to cover the pill and then hide it in a
tiny amount of something yummy.  When they'll go for it, it takes all
the stress out of pill time.  I just act like it's time for a treat.  I
don't even hold my breath anymore while I watch them eat it :-) .  Can
you have any of his meds made into transdermals?

When my guys spit out the pills, or hold them in their mouths, I calmly
explain that that won't do either of us any good.  That Mom is not a
quitter and that it will be easier on all of us if they just swallow the
darn thing.
Nina


Kelley Saveika wrote: 

Aww Nina, Thanks.  He is pretty comfortable right now, despite his
shockingly low RBC.  He was eating this morning.  He gained 3 ounces in
4 days which is GREAT.  I just don't know what it means that the RBC is
still going down, but the WBC is going down too.   The WBC is within
normal range.  

 

He's only 10, which realistically means he could quite a few years left
if he can beat this.  It isn't like he's 20, in which case I might make
a different choice.

 

I'm also getting really good at pilling cats.  He's declawed (:() so he
can't claw me like my guys do.  He's good at spitting out the pills and
can hold them in his mouth FOREVER without swallowing so I had to get
good at getting them in there:) 

<http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia> 

Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Nina]

Like I said before, I don't know enough about this, but wouldn't the 
declining RBC mean that his anemia is non-regenerative?  I think it's 
wonderful news that he seems comfortable and is eating, and gaining 
weight!  That's a very good sign.  Sometimes I wish we didn't know what 
the darn test results show, if he's appearing better, then he's doing 
better!!


Heck, 10 years old is just a kid, (I should know I'm just past the 
middle mark myself).


6 pills a day are a lot of pills.  Have you posted all his meds to the 
list yet?  Are you using a pill popper?  Some of them are better then 
others, (some have better spring action and really shoot the pill down 
the old gullet). They also help you place the pill far enough back in 
their throat so they can't "cheek" it.   I've gotten to be pretty good 
at pilling using one.  Make sure and chase the pills with something 
liquid.  If he'll lap some tuna water afterward, that should do it.  
Have you tried my pill pocket technique on Joey yet?  When their 
appetite is good it works like a charm.  The secret is to not use the 
whole pill pocket, just enough to cover the pill and then hide it in a 
tiny amount of something yummy.  When they'll go for it, it takes all 
the stress out of pill time.  I just act like it's time for a treat.  I 
don't even hold my breath anymore while I watch them eat it :-) .  Can 
you have any of his meds made into transdermals?


When my guys spit out the pills, or hold them in their mouths, I calmly 
explain that that won't do either of us any good.  That Mom is not a 
quitter and that it will be easier on all of us if they just swallow the 
darn thing.

Nina


Kelley Saveika wrote:
Aww Nina, Thanks.  He is pretty comfortable right now, despite his 
shockingly low RBC.  He was eating this morning.  He gained 3 ounces 
in 4 days which is GREAT.  I just don't know what it means that the 
RBC is still going down, but the WBC is going down too.   The WBC is 
within normal range. 
 
He's only 10, which realistically means he could quite a few years 
left if he can beat this.  It isn't like he's 20, in which case I 
might make a different choice.
 
I'm also getting really good at pilling cats.  He's declawed (:() so 
he can't claw me like my guys do.  He's good at spitting out the pills 
and can hold them in his mouth FOREVER without swallowing so I had to 
get good at getting them in there:)
<http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia> 

RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

If he is non regenerative anemia -you might want to try epogen - have
you used it on him yet?  I can try to get one for you and ship it if you
like to try for Joey -

 

Hideyo

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

 

Aww Nina, Thanks.  He is pretty comfortable right now, despite his
shockingly low RBC.  He was eating this morning.  He gained 3 ounces in
4 days which is GREAT.  I just don't know what it means that the RBC is
still going down, but the WBC is going down too.   The WBC is within
normal range.  

 

He's only 10, which realistically means he could quite a few years left
if he can beat this.  It isn't like he's 20, in which case I might make
a different choice.

 

I'm also getting really good at pilling cats.  He's declawed (:() so he
can't claw me like my guys do.  He's good at spitting out the pills and
can hold them in his mouth FOREVER without swallowing so I had to get
good at getting them in there:) 

 

On 3/27/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I'm pretty darn sure the tax deduction would include interest on the
loan, no matter what the type of loan, (credit card or not), you'd have
to ask your tax consultant about that to be sure.  Like you say, having
deductions is all well and good, but if you don't have the income, it
doesn't make much difference.  It only changes your taxable income
amount.  The money is still out of your pocket and not available for the
next rescue.  

It's a nasty quandary, but it sounds like you've thought about this, (of
course you have, you're in rescue!), and as hard as the decision is,
money is a factor.  I've said it so many times before, sometimes all the
money in the world is not enough to save them.  Joey is so much better
off with you than he might otherwise be.  You care about him, he's safe
and loved, you are researching ways to help him.  He's been blessed with
a wonderful ally to fight for his chances and stand at his side.  My
prayers are with you that you continue to figure out ways to help Joey
and he makes a full recovery.   
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote: 

No, you can't write off interest on credit cards.  It is worth it if he
lives.

On 3/27/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 

Can you not write off some of the interest, too? 



Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I am a nonprofit, I just don't have my letter of determination yet.  I
am expecting it before the end of the year, certainly before next tax
year.  But that doesn't really help much - you get about 30 cents back
on the dollar.  I wrote off 3,000 last year and got an 1,800 refund.
When I am paying 24% interest on this credit card I am using it is a
very large financial hit.  But he is going to get paid for anyway.  The
problem is when I run out of credit then it will be a very big issue.  I
just have to keep fundraising and make sure that doesnt' happen:). 

On 3/27/07, Stray Cat Alliance <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 

If you are not a non profit then you could possibly try to work with one
-- so if you paid whatever monies to them for the services and they paid
the bills, you could get a tax write off from the IRS. You would need a
receipt from the nonprofit. 
 
It is so kind of you to help the kitties and I know every cent counts!
Where is the money tree when we need it!
 
Anita

<http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia> 




-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! 

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia 

RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I know exactly what you are saying - I have already spent a couple
thousand dollars for transfusions on Felix - at the same time, I have
others who needs FOI or other medical treatment - it's hard to know what
to do - you are doing what you can .. 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

 

Thanks Hideyo,

 

He did not run coombs test.  So the diagnosis is "suspected."  See, my
problem is that I do rescue...so I have other cats in need of medical.
I know you have lots of cats too.  But the problem is, if I spend all my
money on Joey (I am spending my personal money on a 24% credit card to
help him because people do not want to donate to a 10 year old cat.  His
dad said he would send $100 but so far he has not).  Anyway if I spend
all my credit card on Joey and then I have another cat who needs
treatment and I have spent all my money on Joey - then I can't help the
other cat.  It is driving me crazy to try to decide what to do. 

 

I have a cat coming in Wednesday that will probably have to have one eye
removed.  But I don't know that yet, my vet has to see her.  AIHA from
what I can find on the internet is regenerative anemia.

 

Kelley

 



 

On 3/27/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Dear Kelley, Nina wrote to me off list and I wanted to respond to you as
I am going through a very very situation with my FIV boy Felix - 

I do wanted to find out more from you about the diagnosis of AIHA of
Joey - did they run coombs test to determine the illness of AIHA?  Is he
regenerative anemia?  Epgoen may help only if anemia is non regenerative
- my Ayumi is non regenerative anemia and we don't know why - it could
be from severe stomatitis - anyway, she Is not CRF kitty, but epogen
seems to have helped her as she is maintaining low 20's o PCV for now.. 

 

On the other hand, my Felix is highly regenerative, but his body seems
to attack his RBC - usually it goes down below 10 - he has had his 4 th
transfusion on Saturday - fortunately he has not had any reactions from
it.

My recommendation is that.. if it goes down lower and get weaker,
especially, if he will have hard time breathing, which will happen if
his PCV goes down further, I recommend that you do transfusion - even
with hermobartnella kitties, often times, they have to get multiple
transfusion until the med start working - but at least it will buy you
some time meantime..Felix is on steroid and on doxy as well.. I am still
waiting for his Hemobartenella PCR result (takes about one week form
Idexx) - I will continue to do transfusions as long as I can afford it
and he does not develop reactions - he feels so much better after his
transfusions -  There is a page as to how to treat AIHA in case hyou
have not read it - I will forward it to you, as the suggest other drugs
if they don't respond to steroid - I am considering using for my Felix
as well. 

 

You also may wan to ask your vet if you can get oxygen tank in case he
will have a hard time breathing.. I have used for my cats at home and
have it here all the time, and it has come so handy, especially a kitty
with severe anemia. 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

Thanks Wendy,

 

It is VERY scary.  I did not ask him about Epogen.  I asked him about
transfusions.  He said that they are no longer recommended becuase those
red blood cells get attacked too, but he would do one for me if I
wanted.  

 

Right now, for a sick cat, Joey is acting pretty good.  He grooms a
little, and lies on his tummy with his head up, instead of on his side
with his head laying on the floor.  He is quite feisty with me when I
give him his meds, too.  He is able to walk on his own to the food and
water dish. 

 

If he makes it he will probably have to be on steroids for life to keep
it from coming back.  

 

On 3/21/07, wendy < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
wrote: 

Hi Kelley,

I'm so sorry about Joey's prognosis.  Anemia is so
scary.  I did a little research and humans with AIHA 
use Epogen.  Did your vet say whether Epogen would
help Joey?

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, 
> has been diagnosed with
> Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia.  I'm really concerned
> about him.  I feel bad
> because I think I should have noticed something
> sooner.  What information
> can yall give me about this disease?
>
> It is my understanding this disease is more common 
> in FELV+ cats.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> --
> R

RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - Kelley

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

If his bone marrow is suppressed, both RBC and WBC count goes down, I
think.

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - Kelley

 

He has been seen by my vet twice and not been diagnosed with any sort of
stomatitis.  He did stop eating when he first got sick and lost 3 lb.
Since he has been on the drugs - he had his first CBC on 3/21 and his
second 3/24.  So he regained 3 ounces in 3 days.  He is eating a lot
now.  I am getting a lot better at pilling him since I have to give him
6 pills a day.  His WBC was down to the normal range the 2nd blood draw.
Unfortunately his RBC was even lower than the first time. 

On 3/27/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Again, I am sorry, I asked the same questions you already answered here
- I am a bit stressed out with mjy current situations, please forgive me
- now he is over 10 years old.. the possibility fo FIP goes down
significantly.. now I am thinking  does he have severe stomatitis by any
chance?  My ayumi's  PCV is very low, and she is on epogen and it's
working on her and she has non regenerative anemia - her glob is high
due to stomatitis- is he on epogen already? 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - Kelley

 

Sorry, Kelley - I am re-reading this email so you won't have to answer
the questions already answered here - but I need to find out  more about
the blood work if  you have it - glob seems to be very high...his a/g
ration must be low -  how about his bilburin values?  If you have it,
can you email it to me?  Did they run corona titer test? - I don't mean
to scare you but did the vet suggest any possibilities of FIP with Joey?
How old is he?  Is he less than 2 years old?  I wanted to look at the
entire blood result if you have it  -- is he on FOI? 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

He did a cbc.  wbc 21.5, mono 1.85, neu 18.44, hct 15.3, rbc 3.23, hgb
8.5, rdw 22.3, mch 26.36, plt 731, amyl 1743, bun 48, glob 7.5, tp 10.1 

 

He did not do a coombs test.

 

This is s difficult for me, but his is a 10 year old rescue/foster
cat with a life-threatening disease.  My bill today was $244.  I am
going to treat him as aggressively as I can, but this could easily cost
me $2,000 without the coombs test.  He goes back next Monday for another
CBC.  I cannot spend all my money on this one cat, because if a
different one becomes sick after this and I spend all my money on Joey
and he dies:( I wont' have any money to treat the cat I could save.  

 

He is on 20 mg of prednisolone a day and doxycycline.  He fought me hard
to get the pills down so maybe he will do better than I fear.

 

His prognosis is "guarded":(

 

On 3/21/07, Hideyo Yamamoto < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: 

How did you confirm the diagnosis? Is it with coombs test?

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 


Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition.  Her vets were wonderful
but the steroids took their toll.  However, my alternative vet was very
helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good
length of time.  You might investigate this avenue.  Mai Mai left this
world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved.  

 

Good luck and blessings to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 If you have men who
will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis 

- Original Message - 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.]
a cat w/ this disease...

But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with
it..

What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him.
Just laying around, sleeping alot.

So, I took him to my vet.  Was devastated when I got results!!!
Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. 

  

Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

Aww Nina, Thanks.  He is pretty comfortable right now, despite his
shockingly low RBC.  He was eating this morning.  He gained 3 ounces in 4
days which is GREAT.  I just don't know what it means that the RBC is still
going down, but the WBC is going down too.   The WBC is within normal
range.

He's only 10, which realistically means he could quite a few years left if
he can beat this.  It isn't like he's 20, in which case I might make a
different choice.

I'm also getting really good at pilling cats.  He's declawed (:() so he
can't claw me like my guys do.  He's good at spitting out the pills and can
hold them in his mouth FOREVER without swallowing so I had to get good at
getting them in there:)


On 3/27/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm pretty darn sure the tax deduction would include interest on the loan,
no matter what the type of loan, (credit card or not), you'd have to ask
your tax consultant about that to be sure.  Like you say, having deductions
is all well and good, but if you don't have the income, it doesn't make much
difference.  It only changes your taxable income amount.  The money is still
out of your pocket and not available for the next rescue.

It's a nasty quandary, but it sounds like you've thought about this, (of
course you have, you're in rescue!), and as hard as the decision is, money
is a factor.  I've said it so many times before, sometimes all the money in
the world is not enough to save them.  Joey is so much better off with you
than he might otherwise be.  You care about him, he's safe and loved, you
are researching ways to help him.  He's been blessed with a wonderful ally
to fight for his chances and stand at his side.  My prayers are with you
that you continue to figure out ways to help Joey and he makes a full
recovery.
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:

No, you can't write off interest on credit cards.  It is worth it if he
lives.

On 3/27/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can you not write off some of the interest, too?
>
> *Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> I am a nonprofit, I just don't have my letter of determination yet.  I
> am expecting it before the end of the year, certainly before next tax year.
> But that doesn't really help much - you get about 30 cents back on the
> dollar.  I wrote off 3,000 last year and got an 1,800 refund.  When I am
> paying 24% interest on this credit card I am using it is a very large
> financial hit.  But he is going to get paid for anyway.  The problem is when
> I run out of credit then it will be a very big issue.  I just have to keep
> fundraising and make sure that doesnt' happen:).
>
> On 3/27/07, Stray Cat Alliance <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > If you are not a non profit then you could possibly try to work with
> > one -- so if you paid whatever monies to them for the services and they paid
> > the bills, you could get a tax write off from the IRS. You would need a
> > receipt from the nonprofit.
> >
> > It is so kind of you to help the kitties and I know every cent counts!
> > Where is the money tree when we need it!
> >
> > Anita
> >
> <http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia>





--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia

Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Nina]

I'm pretty darn sure the tax deduction would include interest on the 
loan, no matter what the type of loan, (credit card or not), you'd have 
to ask your tax consultant about that to be sure.  Like you say, having 
deductions is all well and good, but if you don't have the income, it 
doesn't make much difference.  It only changes your taxable income 
amount.  The money is still out of your pocket and not available for the 
next rescue. 

It's a nasty quandary, but it sounds like you've thought about this, (of 
course you have, you're in rescue!), and as hard as the decision is, 
money is a factor.  I've said it so many times before, sometimes all the 
money in the world is not enough to save them.  Joey is so much better 
off with you than he might otherwise be.  You care about him, he's safe 
and loved, you are researching ways to help him.  He's been blessed with 
a wonderful ally to fight for his chances and stand at his side.  My 
prayers are with you that you continue to figure out ways to help Joey 
and he makes a full recovery.  
Nina


Kelley Saveika wrote:
No, you can't write off interest on credit cards.  It is worth it if 
he lives.


On 3/27/07, *Gussies mom* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


Can you not write off some of the interest, too?


*/Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>/* wrote:

I am a nonprofit, I just don't have my letter of determination
yet.  I am expecting it before the end of the year, certainly
before next tax year.  But that doesn't really help much - you
get about 30 cents back on the dollar.  I wrote off 3,000 last
year and got an 1,800 refund.  When I am paying 24% interest
on this credit card I am using it is a very large financial
hit.  But he is going to get paid for anyway.  The problem is
when I run out of credit then it will be a very big issue.  I
just have to keep fundraising and make sure that doesnt'
happen:).

On 3/27/07, *Stray Cat Alliance*
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

If you are not a non profit then you could possibly try to
work with one -- so if you paid whatever monies to them
for the services and they paid the bills, you could get a
tax write off from the IRS. You would need a receipt from
the nonprofit.
 
It is so kind of you to help the kitties and I know every

cent counts! Where is the money tree when we need it!
 
Anita


<http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia> 

Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

No, you can't write off interest on credit cards.  It is worth it if he
lives.

On 3/27/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Can you not write off some of the interest, too?

*Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

I am a nonprofit, I just don't have my letter of determination yet.  I am
expecting it before the end of the year, certainly before next tax year.
But that doesn't really help much - you get about 30 cents back on the
dollar.  I wrote off 3,000 last year and got an 1,800 refund.  When I am
paying 24% interest on this credit card I am using it is a very large
financial hit.  But he is going to get paid for anyway.  The problem is when
I run out of credit then it will be a very big issue.  I just have to keep
fundraising and make sure that doesnt' happen:).

On 3/27/07, Stray Cat Alliance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you are not a non profit then you could possibly try to work with one
> -- so if you paid whatever monies to them for the services and they paid the
> bills, you could get a tax write off from the IRS. You would need a receipt
> from the nonprofit.
>
> It is so kind of you to help the kitties and I know every cent counts!
> Where is the money tree when we need it!
>
> Anita
>
>
>  --
> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:10:20 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley
>
> Thanks Hideyo,
>
> He did not run coombs test.  So the diagnosis is "suspected."  See, my
> problem is that I do rescue...so I have other cats in need of medical.  I
> know you have lots of cats too.  But the problem is, if I spend all my money
> on Joey (I am spending my personal money on a 24% credit card to help him
> because people do not want to donate to a 10 year old cat.  His dad said he
> would send $100 but so far he has not).  Anyway if I spend all my credit
> card on Joey and then I have another cat who needs treatment and I have
> spent all my money on Joey - then I can't help the other cat.  It is driving
> me crazy to try to decide what to do.
>
> I have a cat coming in Wednesday that will probably have to have one eye
> removed.  But I don't know that yet, my vet has to see her.  AIHA from what
> I can find on the internet is regenerative anemia.
>
> Kelley
>
>
>
>
> On 3/27/07, *Hideyo Yamamoto* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  Dear Kelley, Nina wrote to me off list and I wanted to respond to you
> as I am going through a very very situation with my FIV boy Felix –
> I do wanted to find out more from you about the diagnosis of AIHA of
> Joey – did they run coombs test to determine the illness of AIHA?  Is he
> regenerative anemia?  Epgoen may help only if anemia is non regenerative –
> my Ayumi is non regenerative anemia and we don't know why – it could be from
> severe stomatitis – anyway, she Is not CRF kitty, but epogen seems to have
> helped her as she is maintaining low 20's o PCV for now..
>
> On the other hand, my Felix is highly regenerative, but his body seems
> to attack his RBC – usually it goes down below 10 – he has had his 4 
thtransfusion on Saturday – fortunately he has not had any reactions from it.
> My recommendation is that.. if it goes down lower and get weaker,
> especially, if he will have hard time breathing, which will happen if his
> PCV goes down further, I recommend that you do transfusion – even with
> hermobartnella kitties, often times, they have to get multiple transfusion
> until the med start working – but at least it will buy you some time
> meantime..Felix is on steroid and on doxy as well.. I am still waiting for
> his Hemobartenella PCR result (takes about one week form Idexx) – I will
> continue to do transfusions as long as I can afford it and he does not
> develop reactions – he feels so much better after his transfusions –  There
> is a page as to how to treat AIHA in case hyou have not read it – I will
> forward it to you, as the suggest other drugs if they don't respond to
> steroid – I am considering using for my Felix as well.
>
> You also may wan to ask your vet if you can get oxygen tank in case he
> will have a hard time breathing.. I have used for my cats at home and have
> it here all the time, and it has come so handy, especially a kitty with
> severe anemia.
>
>  --
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:11 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
>
>
> Thanks Wendy,
>
>
>
> It is VERY scary.  I did not ask him about Epogen.  I asked him about
> tran

Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Gussies mom]

Can you not write off some of the interest, too?

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I am a nonprofit, I just don't have 
my letter of determination yet.  I am expecting it before the end of the year, 
certainly before next tax year.  But that doesn't really help much - you get 
about 30 cents back on the dollar.  I wrote off 3,000 last year and got an 
1,800 refund.  When I am paying 24% interest on this credit card I am using it 
is a very large financial hit.  But he is going to get paid for anyway.  The 
problem is when I run out of credit then it will be a very big issue.  I just 
have to keep fundraising and make sure that doesnt' happen:). 

  On 3/27/07, Stray Cat Alliance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you are not 
a non profit then you could possibly try to work with one -- so if you paid 
whatever monies to them for the services and they paid the bills, you could get 
a tax write off from the IRS. You would need a receipt from the nonprofit. 
 
It is so kind of you to help the kitties and I know every cent counts! Where is 
the money tree when we need it!
 
Anita



-
  Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:10:20 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley   

  Thanks Hideyo,
   
  He did not run coombs test.  So the diagnosis is "suspected."  See, my 
problem is that I do rescue...so I have other cats in need of medical.  I know 
you have lots of cats too.  But the problem is, if I spend all my money on Joey 
(I am spending my personal money on a 24% credit card to help him because 
people do not want to donate to a 10 year old cat.  His dad said he would send 
$100 but so far he has not).  Anyway if I spend all my credit card on Joey and 
then I have another cat who needs treatment and I have spent all my money on 
Joey - then I can't help the other cat.  It is driving me crazy to try to 
decide what to do. 
   
  I have a cat coming in Wednesday that will probably have to have one eye 
removed.  But I don't know that yet, my vet has to see her.  AIHA from what I 
can find on the internet is regenerative anemia.
   
  Kelley
   
  

 
  On 3/27/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Dear Kelley, 
Nina wrote to me off list and I wanted to respond to you as I am going through 
a very very situation with my FIV boy Felix – 
I do wanted to find out more from you about the diagnosis of AIHA of Joey – did 
they run coombs test to determine the illness of AIHA?  Is he regenerative 
anemia?  Epgoen may help only if anemia is non regenerative – my Ayumi is non 
regenerative anemia and we don't know why – it could be from severe stomatitis 
– anyway, she Is not CRF kitty, but epogen seems to have helped her as she is 
maintaining low 20's o PCV for now.. 
 
On the other hand, my Felix is highly regenerative, but his body seems to 
attack his RBC – usually it goes down below 10 – he has had his 4 th 
transfusion on Saturday – fortunately he has not had any reactions from it. 
My recommendation is that.. if it goes down lower and get weaker, especially, 
if he will have hard time breathing, which will happen if his PCV goes down 
further, I recommend that you do transfusion – even with hermobartnella 
kitties, often times, they have to get multiple transfusion until the med start 
working – but at least it will buy you some time meantime..Felix is on steroid 
and on doxy as well.. I am still waiting for his Hemobartenella PCR result 
(takes about one week form Idexx) – I will continue to do transfusions as long 
as I can afford it and he does not develop reactions – he feels so much better 
after his transfusions –  There is a page as to how to treat AIHA in case hyou 
have not read it – I will forward it to you, as the suggest other drugs if they 
don't respond to steroid – I am considering using for my Felix as well. 
 
You also may wan to ask your vet if you can get oxygen tank in case he will 
have a hard time breathing.. I have used for my cats at home and have it here 
all the time, and it has come so handy, especially a kitty with severe anemia. 
 
  
-
  
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia 
 
 
  Thanks Wendy,
 
  
 
  It is VERY scary.  I did not ask him about Epogen.  I asked him about 
transfusions.  He said that they are no longer recommended becuase those red 
blood cells get attacked too, but he would do one for me if I wanted.  
 
  
 
  Right now, for a sick cat, Joey is acting pretty good.  He grooms a little, 
and lies on his tummy with his head up, instead of on his side with his head 
laying on the floor.  He is quite feisty with me when I give him his meds, too. 
 He is able to walk on his own to the food 

Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

I am a nonprofit, I just don't have my letter of determination yet.  I am
expecting it before the end of the year, certainly before next tax year.
But that doesn't really help much - you get about 30 cents back on the
dollar.  I wrote off 3,000 last year and got an 1,800 refund.  When I am
paying 24% interest on this credit card I am using it is a very large
financial hit.  But he is going to get paid for anyway.  The problem is when
I run out of credit then it will be a very big issue.  I just have to keep
fundraising and make sure that doesnt' happen:).

On 3/27/07, Stray Cat Alliance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If you are not a non profit then you could possibly try to work with one
-- so if you paid whatever monies to them for the services and they paid the
bills, you could get a tax write off from the IRS. You would need a receipt
from the nonprofit.

It is so kind of you to help the kitties and I know every cent counts!
Where is the money tree when we need it!

Anita


 --
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:10:20 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

Thanks Hideyo,

He did not run coombs test.  So the diagnosis is "suspected."  See, my
problem is that I do rescue...so I have other cats in need of medical.  I
know you have lots of cats too.  But the problem is, if I spend all my money
on Joey (I am spending my personal money on a 24% credit card to help him
because people do not want to donate to a 10 year old cat.  His dad said he
would send $100 but so far he has not).  Anyway if I spend all my credit
card on Joey and then I have another cat who needs treatment and I have
spent all my money on Joey - then I can't help the other cat.  It is driving
me crazy to try to decide what to do.

I have a cat coming in Wednesday that will probably have to have one eye
removed.  But I don't know that yet, my vet has to see her.  AIHA from what
I can find on the internet is regenerative anemia.

Kelley




On 3/27/07, *Hideyo Yamamoto* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Dear Kelley, Nina wrote to me off list and I wanted to respond to you as
I am going through a very very situation with my FIV boy Felix –
I do wanted to find out more from you about the diagnosis of AIHA of Joey
– did they run coombs test to determine the illness of AIHA?  Is he
regenerative anemia?  Epgoen may help only if anemia is non regenerative –
my Ayumi is non regenerative anemia and we don't know why – it could be from
severe stomatitis – anyway, she Is not CRF kitty, but epogen seems to have
helped her as she is maintaining low 20's o PCV for now..

On the other hand, my Felix is highly regenerative, but his body seems to
attack his RBC – usually it goes down below 10 – he has had his 4 thtransfusion 
on Saturday – fortunately he has not had any reactions from it.
My recommendation is that.. if it goes down lower and get weaker,
especially, if he will have hard time breathing, which will happen if his
PCV goes down further, I recommend that you do transfusion – even with
hermobartnella kitties, often times, they have to get multiple transfusion
until the med start working – but at least it will buy you some time
meantime..Felix is on steroid and on doxy as well.. I am still waiting for
his Hemobartenella PCR result (takes about one week form Idexx) – I will
continue to do transfusions as long as I can afford it and he does not
develop reactions – he feels so much better after his transfusions –  There
is a page as to how to treat AIHA in case hyou have not read it – I will
forward it to you, as the suggest other drugs if they don't respond to
steroid – I am considering using for my Felix as well.

You also may wan to ask your vet if you can get oxygen tank in case he
will have a hard time breathing.. I have used for my cats at home and have
it here all the time, and it has come so handy, especially a kitty with
severe anemia.

 --
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika
*Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:11 AM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia


Thanks Wendy,



It is VERY scary.  I did not ask him about Epogen.  I asked him about
transfusions.  He said that they are no longer recommended becuase those red
blood cells get attacked too, but he would do one for me if I wanted.



Right now, for a sick cat, Joey is acting pretty good.  He grooms a
little, and lies on his tummy with his head up, instead of on his side with
his head laying on the floor.  He is quite feisty with me when I give him
his meds, too.  He is able to walk on his own to the food and water dish.



If he makes it he will probably have to be on steroids for life to keep it
from coming back.



On 3/21/07, *wendy* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Kelley,

I'm so sorry about Joey's pro

RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Stray Cat Alliance]

If you are not a non profit then you could possibly try to work with one -- so 
if you paid whatever monies to them for the services and they paid the bills, 
you could get a tax write off from the IRS. You would need a receipt from the 
nonprofit.
 
It is so kind of you to help the kitties and I know every cent counts! Where is 
the money tree when we need it!
 
Anita


Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:10:20 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley
Thanks Hideyo,
 
He did not run coombs test.  So the diagnosis is "suspected."  See, my problem 
is that I do rescue...so I have other cats in need of medical.  I know you have 
lots of cats too.  But the problem is, if I spend all my money on Joey (I am 
spending my personal money on a 24% credit card to help him because people do 
not want to donate to a 10 year old cat.  His dad said he would send $100 but 
so far he has not).  Anyway if I spend all my credit card on Joey and then I 
have another cat who needs treatment and I have spent all my money on Joey - 
then I can't help the other cat.  It is driving me crazy to try to decide what 
to do. 
 
I have a cat coming in Wednesday that will probably have to have one eye 
removed.  But I don't know that yet, my vet has to see her.  AIHA from what I 
can find on the internet is regenerative anemia.
 
Kelley
 
 
On 3/27/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Dear Kelley, Nina wrote to me off list and I wanted to respond to you as I am 
going through a very very situation with my FIV boy Felix – 
I do wanted to find out more from you about the diagnosis of AIHA of Joey – did 
they run coombs test to determine the illness of AIHA?  Is he regenerative 
anemia?  Epgoen may help only if anemia is non regenerative – my Ayumi is non 
regenerative anemia and we don't know why – it could be from severe stomatitis 
– anyway, she Is not CRF kitty, but epogen seems to have helped her as she is 
maintaining low 20's o PCV for now.. 
 
On the other hand, my Felix is highly regenerative, but his body seems to 
attack his RBC – usually it goes down below 10 – he has had his 4 th 
transfusion on Saturday – fortunately he has not had any reactions from it.
My recommendation is that.. if it goes down lower and get weaker, especially, 
if he will have hard time breathing, which will happen if his PCV goes down 
further, I recommend that you do transfusion – even with hermobartnella 
kitties, often times, they have to get multiple transfusion until the med start 
working – but at least it will buy you some time meantime..Felix is on steroid 
and on doxy as well.. I am still waiting for his Hemobartenella PCR result 
(takes about one week form Idexx) – I will continue to do transfusions as long 
as I can afford it and he does not develop reactions – he feels so much better 
after his transfusions –  There is a page as to how to treat AIHA in case hyou 
have not read it – I will forward it to you, as the suggest other drugs if they 
don't respond to steroid – I am considering using for my Felix as well. 
 
You also may wan to ask your vet if you can get oxygen tank in case he will 
have a hard time breathing.. I have used for my cats at home and have it here 
all the time, and it has come so handy, especially a kitty with severe anemia. 
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley 
SaveikaSent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:11 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Auto 
Immune Hemolytic Anemia
 

Thanks Wendy,

 

It is VERY scary.  I did not ask him about Epogen.  I asked him about 
transfusions.  He said that they are no longer recommended becuase those red 
blood cells get attacked too, but he would do one for me if I wanted.  

 

Right now, for a sick cat, Joey is acting pretty good.  He grooms a little, and 
lies on his tummy with his head up, instead of on his side with his head laying 
on the floor.  He is quite feisty with me when I give him his meds, too.  He is 
able to walk on his own to the food and water dish. 

 

If he makes it he will probably have to be on steroids for life to keep it from 
coming back.   

On 3/21/07, wendy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Hi Kelley,I'm so sorry about Joey's prognosis.  Anemia is soscary.  I did a 
little research and humans with AIHA use Epogen.  Did your vet say whether 
Epogen wouldhelp Joey?:)Wendy--- Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi 
all,>> Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, > has been 
diagnosed with> Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia.  I'm really concerned> about him. 
 I feel bad> because I think I should have noticed something> sooner.  What 
information> can yall give me about this disease?>> It is my understanding this 
disease is more common > in FELV+ cats.>> Thanks,>>> --> Rescuties - Saving the 
world, one cat at a ti

Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

He has been seen by my vet twice and not been diagnosed with any sort of
stomatitis.  He did stop eating when he first got sick and lost 3 lb.  Since
he has been on the drugs - he had his first CBC on 3/21 and his second
3/24.  So he regained 3 ounces in 3 days.  He is eating a lot now.  I am
getting a lot better at pilling him since I have to give him 6 pills a day.
His WBC was down to the normal range the 2nd blood draw.  Unfortunately his
RBC was even lower than the first time.

On 3/27/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Again, I am sorry, I asked the same questions you already answered here –
I am a bit stressed out with mjy current situations, please forgive me – now
he is over 10 years old.. the possibility fo FIP goes down significantly..
now I am thinking  does he have severe stomatitis by any chance?  My
ayumi's  PCV is very low, and she is on epogen and it's working on her and
she has non regenerative anemia – her glob is high due to stomatitis- is he
on epogen already?


 --

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Hideyo Yamamoto
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:05 AM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - Kelley



Sorry, Kelley – I am re-reading this email so you won't have to answer the
questions already answered here – but I need to find out  more about the
blood work if  you have it – glob seems to be very high…his a/g ration must
be low -  how about his bilburin values?  If you have it, can you email it
to me?  Did they run corona titer test? – I don't mean to scare you but did
the vet suggest any possibilities of FIP with Joey?How old is he?  Is he
less than 2 years old?  I wanted to look at the entire blood result if you
have it  -- is he on FOI?


 --

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:12 PM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia



He did a cbc.  wbc 21.5, mono 1.85, neu 18.44, hct 15.3, rbc 3.23, hgb 8.5,
rdw 22.3, mch 26.36, plt 731, amyl 1743, bun 48, glob 7.5, tp 10.1



He did not do a coombs test.



This is s difficult for me, but his is a 10 year old rescue/foster
 cat with a life-threatening disease.  My bill today was $244.  I am going
to treat him as aggressively as I can, but this could easily cost me $2,000
without the coombs test.  He goes back next Monday for another CBC.  I
cannot spend all my money on this one cat, because if a different one
becomes sick after this and I spend all my money on Joey and he dies:( I
wont' have any money to treat the cat I could save.



He is on 20 mg of prednisolone a day and doxycycline.  He fought me hard
to get the pills down so maybe he will do better than I fear.



His prognosis is "guarded":(



On 3/21/07, *Hideyo Yamamoto* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How did you confirm the diagnosis? Is it with coombs test?


 --

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Marylyn
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:48 PM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org


*Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia



My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition.  Her vets were wonderful
but the steroids took their toll.  However, my alternative vet was very
helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good length
of time.  You might investigate this avenue.  Mai Mai left this world over 5
years ago and treatments may well have improved.



Good luck and blessings to you.













 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

 - Original Message -

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]

*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

*Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM

*Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia



I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/
this disease...

But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it..

What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him.  Just laying
around, sleeping alot.

So, I took him to my vet.  Was devastated when I got results!!!  Mind you,
I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby.

It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned
doing my research)

We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days,
transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff.
prescriptions!), etc., etc.

Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had

Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

Thanks Hideyo,

He did not run coombs test.  So the diagnosis is "suspected."  See, my
problem is that I do rescue...so I have other cats in need of medical.  I
know you have lots of cats too.  But the problem is, if I spend all my money
on Joey (I am spending my personal money on a 24% credit card to help him
because people do not want to donate to a 10 year old cat.  His dad said he
would send $100 but so far he has not).  Anyway if I spend all my credit
card on Joey and then I have another cat who needs treatment and I have
spent all my money on Joey - then I can't help the other cat.  It is driving
me crazy to try to decide what to do.

I have a cat coming in Wednesday that will probably have to have one eye
removed.  But I don't know that yet, my vet has to see her.  AIHA from what
I can find on the internet is regenerative anemia.

Kelley




On 3/27/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Dear Kelley, Nina wrote to me off list and I wanted to respond to you as
I am going through a very very situation with my FIV boy Felix –

I do wanted to find out more from you about the diagnosis of AIHA of Joey
– did they run coombs test to determine the illness of AIHA?  Is he
regenerative anemia?  Epgoen may help only if anemia is non regenerative –
my Ayumi is non regenerative anemia and we don't know why – it could be from
severe stomatitis – anyway, she Is not CRF kitty, but epogen seems to have
helped her as she is maintaining low 20's o PCV for now..



On the other hand, my Felix is highly regenerative, but his body seems to
attack his RBC – usually it goes down below 10 – he has had his 4thtransfusion 
on Saturday – fortunately he has not had any reactions from it.

My recommendation is that.. if it goes down lower and get weaker,
especially, if he will have hard time breathing, which will happen if his
PCV goes down further, I recommend that you do transfusion – even with
hermobartnella kitties, often times, they have to get multiple transfusion
until the med start working – but at least it will buy you some time
meantime..Felix is on steroid and on doxy as well.. I am still waiting for
his Hemobartenella PCR result (takes about one week form Idexx) – I will
continue to do transfusions as long as I can afford it and he does not
develop reactions – he feels so much better after his transfusions –  There
is a page as to how to treat AIHA in case hyou have not read it – I will
forward it to you, as the suggest other drugs if they don't respond to
steroid – I am considering using for my Felix as well.



You also may wan to ask your vet if you can get oxygen tank in case he
will have a hard time breathing.. I have used for my cats at home and have
it here all the time, and it has come so handy, especially a kitty with
severe anemia.


 --

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika
*Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:11 AM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia



Thanks Wendy,



It is VERY scary.  I did not ask him about Epogen.  I asked him about
transfusions.  He said that they are no longer recommended becuase those red
blood cells get attacked too, but he would do one for me if I wanted.



Right now, for a sick cat, Joey is acting pretty good.  He grooms a
little, and lies on his tummy with his head up, instead of on his side with
his head laying on the floor.  He is quite feisty with me when I give him
his meds, too.  He is able to walk on his own to the food and water dish.



If he makes it he will probably have to be on steroids for life to keep it
from coming back.



On 3/21/07, *wendy* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Kelley,

I'm so sorry about Joey's prognosis.  Anemia is so
scary.  I did a little research and humans with AIHA
use Epogen.  Did your vet say whether Epogen would
help Joey?

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month,
> has been diagnosed with
> Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia.  I'm really concerned
> about him.  I feel bad
> because I think I should have noticed something
> sooner.  What information
> can yall give me about this disease?
>
> It is my understanding this disease is more common
> in FELV+ cats.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>






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with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut.
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--
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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties

RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - Kelley

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Again, I am sorry, I asked the same questions you already answered here
- I am a bit stressed out with mjy current situations, please forgive me
- now he is over 10 years old.. the possibility fo FIP goes down
significantly.. now I am thinking  does he have severe stomatitis by any
chance?  My ayumi's  PCV is very low, and she is on epogen and it's
working on her and she has non regenerative anemia - her glob is high
due to stomatitis- is he on epogen already?

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - Kelley

 

Sorry, Kelley - I am re-reading this email so you won't have to answer
the questions already answered here - but I need to find out  more about
the blood work if  you have it - glob seems to be very high...his a/g
ration must be low -  how about his bilburin values?  If you have it,
can you email it to me?  Did they run corona titer test? - I don't mean
to scare you but did the vet suggest any possibilities of FIP with Joey?
How old is he?  Is he less than 2 years old?  I wanted to look at the
entire blood result if you have it  -- is he on FOI?

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

He did a cbc.  wbc 21.5, mono 1.85, neu 18.44, hct 15.3, rbc 3.23, hgb
8.5, rdw 22.3, mch 26.36, plt 731, amyl 1743, bun 48, glob 7.5, tp 10.1

 

He did not do a coombs test.

 

This is s difficult for me, but his is a 10 year old rescue/foster
cat with a life-threatening disease.  My bill today was $244.  I am
going to treat him as aggressively as I can, but this could easily cost
me $2,000 without the coombs test.  He goes back next Monday for another
CBC.  I cannot spend all my money on this one cat, because if a
different one becomes sick after this and I spend all my money on Joey
and he dies:( I wont' have any money to treat the cat I could save.  

 

He is on 20 mg of prednisolone a day and doxycycline.  He fought me hard
to get the pills down so maybe he will do better than I fear.

 

His prognosis is "guarded":(

 

On 3/21/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

How did you confirm the diagnosis? Is it with coombs test?

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 


Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition.  Her vets were wonderful
but the steroids took their toll.  However, my alternative vet was very
helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good
length of time.  You might investigate this avenue.  Mai Mai left this
world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved.  

 

Good luck and blessings to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 If you have men who
will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis 

- Original Message - 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.]
a cat w/ this disease...

But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with
it..

What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him.
Just laying around, sleeping alot.

So, I took him to my vet.  Was devastated when I got results!!!
Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. 

It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I
learned doing my research)

We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three
days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff.
prescriptions!), etc., etc. 

Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally
had my boy PTS..

He could no longer walk, even get up.  And, the chemo drugs made
him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to
do!!!  I ended up "hand-feeding" him.  He developed ulcerations in his
mouth because of all he had to take. It got to the point where I was
hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a
big boy..) In the end, my "former" big boy weighed only around 60
lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his

RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - Kelley

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Sorry, Kelley - I am re-reading this email so you won't have to answer
the questions already answered here - but I need to find out  more about
the blood work if  you have it - glob seems to be very high...his a/g
ration must be low -  how about his bilburin values?  If you have it,
can you email it to me?  Did they run corona titer test? - I don't mean
to scare you but did the vet suggest any possibilities of FIP with Joey?
How old is he?  Is he less than 2 years old?  I wanted to look at the
entire blood result if you have it  -- is he on FOI?

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

He did a cbc.  wbc 21.5, mono 1.85, neu 18.44, hct 15.3, rbc 3.23, hgb
8.5, rdw 22.3, mch 26.36, plt 731, amyl 1743, bun 48, glob 7.5, tp 10.1

 

He did not do a coombs test.

 

This is s difficult for me, but his is a 10 year old rescue/foster
cat with a life-threatening disease.  My bill today was $244.  I am
going to treat him as aggressively as I can, but this could easily cost
me $2,000 without the coombs test.  He goes back next Monday for another
CBC.  I cannot spend all my money on this one cat, because if a
different one becomes sick after this and I spend all my money on Joey
and he dies:( I wont' have any money to treat the cat I could save.  

 

He is on 20 mg of prednisolone a day and doxycycline.  He fought me hard
to get the pills down so maybe he will do better than I fear.

 

His prognosis is "guarded":(

 

On 3/21/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

How did you confirm the diagnosis? Is it with coombs test?

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 


Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition.  Her vets were wonderful
but the steroids took their toll.  However, my alternative vet was very
helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good
length of time.  You might investigate this avenue.  Mai Mai left this
world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved.  

 

Good luck and blessings to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 If you have men who
will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis 

- Original Message - 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.]
a cat w/ this disease...

But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with
it..

What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him.
Just laying around, sleeping alot.

So, I took him to my vet.  Was devastated when I got results!!!
Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. 

It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I
learned doing my research)

We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three
days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff.
prescriptions!), etc., etc. 

Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally
had my boy PTS..

He could no longer walk, even get up.  And, the chemo drugs made
him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to
do!!!  I ended up "hand-feeding" him.  He developed ulcerations in his
mouth because of all he had to take. It got to the point where I was
hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a
big boy..) In the end, my "former" big boy weighed only around 60
lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his
weight) 

It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put
him through.  I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him.  But, after
all I put him thru, I did lose him.  We humans can be so selfish. 

After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably
worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would
never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most
important thing is knowing when to let go..

Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share
what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. 

Best wishe

RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Dear Kelley, Nina wrote to me off list and I wanted to respond to you as
I am going through a very very situation with my FIV boy Felix -

I do wanted to find out more from you about the diagnosis of AIHA of
Joey - did they run coombs test to determine the illness of AIHA?  Is he
regenerative anemia?  Epgoen may help only if anemia is non regenerative
- my Ayumi is non regenerative anemia and we don't know why - it could
be from severe stomatitis - anyway, she Is not CRF kitty, but epogen
seems to have helped her as she is maintaining low 20's o PCV for now..

 

On the other hand, my Felix is highly regenerative, but his body seems
to attack his RBC - usually it goes down below 10 - he has had his 4th
transfusion on Saturday - fortunately he has not had any reactions from
it.

My recommendation is that.. if it goes down lower and get weaker,
especially, if he will have hard time breathing, which will happen if
his PCV goes down further, I recommend that you do transfusion - even
with hermobartnella kitties, often times, they have to get multiple
transfusion until the med start working - but at least it will buy you
some time meantime..Felix is on steroid and on doxy as well.. I am still
waiting for his Hemobartenella PCR result (takes about one week form
Idexx) - I will continue to do transfusions as long as I can afford it
and he does not develop reactions - he feels so much better after his
transfusions -  There is a page as to how to treat AIHA in case hyou
have not read it - I will forward it to you, as the suggest other drugs
if they don't respond to steroid - I am considering using for my Felix
as well.

 

You also may wan to ask your vet if you can get oxygen tank in case he
will have a hard time breathing.. I have used for my cats at home and
have it here all the time, and it has come so handy, especially a kitty
with severe anemia.

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia

 

Thanks Wendy,

 

It is VERY scary.  I did not ask him about Epogen.  I asked him about
transfusions.  He said that they are no longer recommended becuase those
red blood cells get attacked too, but he would do one for me if I
wanted.  

 

Right now, for a sick cat, Joey is acting pretty good.  He grooms a
little, and lies on his tummy with his head up, instead of on his side
with his head laying on the floor.  He is quite feisty with me when I
give him his meds, too.  He is able to walk on his own to the food and
water dish. 

 

If he makes it he will probably have to be on steroids for life to keep
it from coming back.  

 

On 3/21/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Hi Kelley,

I'm so sorry about Joey's prognosis.  Anemia is so
scary.  I did a little research and humans with AIHA 
use Epogen.  Did your vet say whether Epogen would
help Joey?

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, 
> has been diagnosed with
> Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia.  I'm really concerned
> about him.  I feel bad
> because I think I should have noticed something
> sooner.  What information
> can yall give me about this disease?
>
> It is my understanding this disease is more common
> in FELV+ cats.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> --
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>
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>
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Re: To Kelley Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

[Kelley Saveika]

Thanks...yes, People's here in Austin was like $50 for flagyl compounded
into liquid..and they close at 6 pm too!

Ciara says "It still tasted nasty, even with triple fish flavor.  Ew!"


On 1/30/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


P.S.  For the same meds here in Dallas, where I live,
it costs about $40 at a local compounding pharmacy!!!





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To Kelley Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

[wendy]

Hi Kelley,

I use Pet Health Pharmacy in Arizona. 
https://www.pethealthpharmacy.com/index.html  

They are great.  And it's VERY easy to do refills with
them.  I order a month's worth of transdermal
methimazole for my hyperT kitty, and it's 12.90, plus
a flat $4.50 s&h.  So $17.40 for the month.  That used
to be the cost for two months until we had to double
her dose.  They have very reasonable pricing and are
very personable/helpful when I call.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes, Susan, that would be my preference.  It
> stresses him out to pill him,
> and that's not the effect I want to get.
> 
> I haven't been quoted a price yet.  I don't even
> know which sites to go to
> to get a price quoted:).
> 
> I am in Texas.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kelley
> 
> 
> On 1/27/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Compounded into a salve to rub inside the ear? 
> What sort of price have
> > you been quoted?  I know people in California,
> Florida and North Carolina
> > who have used Elavil compounded as a salve, with
> great results.  Where are
> > you located?
> >
> > *Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> > At 07:54 PM 1/27/2007, you wrote:
> >
> > I do as much on line as possible,,
> > Kelly
> >
> > Is it possible to do this?  Does anyone have any
> urls, or experience with
> > it?  Is it significantly cheaper?  I have a kitty
> who is going on Elavil and
> > I think it would be easier on both of us if it was
> compoiunded.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kelley
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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> >
> >
> 
> 
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> 
> http://www.rescuties.org
> 
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> 
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Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Kelley

[Susan Loesch]

I will -- we WILL find him!

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I'm glad it helps.  I so hope you 
find him.  Let us know when you do:).

  On 1/22/07, Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Thank you!We've 
located lost cats after 4-5 weeks -- it really helps to hear about one found 
after 2 months!While we haven't found Jack we also haven't found a body or 
his red collar -- so there is hope. 

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is an awesome site that 
helps people find their lost pets.
   
  http://www.lostapet.org/
   
  I hope Jack comes home safely.  I had a rescue kitty escape from my home last 
year in early January and found her in March by the garbage cans, so you never 
know.

 
  On 1/22/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Such a bittersweet story about 
the neighborhood Jack's gone missing in.
It sounds like so much good will be done in his honor.  Isn't that just 
life in a nutshell?  Since the folks in that area seem so kindly
disposed to animals, I'm wondering if someone has taken Jackie in, or is
at least keeping him fed.  I know it must be cold out, but is your
friend keeping a window or door ajar in case he wanders back home?
Around 3am seems to be the time when they feel safe to attempt travel.
Has your friend been going outside and shaking a package of dry food
around that time?  Since other's have been trapped, it sounds like traps 
are being set where he went missing.  How fortunate for the ones that
have been/will be helped.  Thank you Jack, now COME HOME!
Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
> Nina, thank you so much.  Please do send prayers Jack's way.  He 
> disappeared on Jan. 1st and there hasn't been a day, hardly that
> someone from his family or our rescue group hasn't been "on the
> streets" looking for him and talking to people.  I really do like the 
> business card idea -- we did, in addition to flyers, half-size
> "handbills" -- half of an 81/2 x 11 page which we put on doors and
> gave to people - but the business cards are easier for people to hold 
> on to.  The neighborhood is really interesting -- an old downtown
> 'hood area where people are moving in and renovating old homes.  Lots
> of boarded up homes, brushy areas mixed in with better cared for 
> places.  Last night a couple of kids brought a black cat to Dianne's
> (Jack's mom) door thinking it was Jack.  It wasn't but Dianne took it
> in because it had an injured tail and took to vet this morning. 
> She's also taken all unaltered animals she's trapped to be altered.
> Our rescue group has discovered in this search that this is the
> neighborhood where we want to begin to concentrate on tnr- we are 
> calling our effort "The Jackie Project" in Jack's honor -- we have met
> many wonderful people with essentially zero resources who are willing
> to feed strays but can't afford spay neuter.   Jack's nicknames are 
> Jackie and Ducky.  He is black but with a brownish tint in the sun.
> He has lots of sinus problems and lots of the time has the tip of his
> tongue sticking out.  I have been amazed that every single person we 
> have talked to -- including knocking on the door at all hours -- has
> been indredible -- not one single person has refused a request to let
> us check basements or walk their property -- and we have felt safe 
> even though this is a neighborhood high in drug activity and police
> activity.  Other than not finding Jack yet it has been a totally
> positive experience.






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Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Kelley

[Kelley Saveika]

I'm glad it helps.  I so hope you find him.  Let us know when you do:).

On 1/22/07, Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thank you!We've located lost cats after 4-5 weeks -- it really helps
to hear about one found after 2 months!While we haven't found Jack we
also haven't found a body or his red collar -- so there is hope.

*Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

This is an awesome site that helps people find their lost pets.

http://www.lostapet.org/

I hope Jack comes home safely.  I had a rescue kitty escape from my home
last year in early January and found her in March by the garbage cans, so
you never know.


On 1/22/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Such a bittersweet story about the neighborhood Jack's gone missing in.
> It sounds like so much good will be done in his honor.  Isn't that just
> life in a nutshell?  Since the folks in that area seem so kindly
> disposed to animals, I'm wondering if someone has taken Jackie in, or is
> at least keeping him fed.  I know it must be cold out, but is your
> friend keeping a window or door ajar in case he wanders back home?
> Around 3am seems to be the time when they feel safe to attempt travel.
> Has your friend been going outside and shaking a package of dry food
> around that time?  Since other's have been trapped, it sounds like traps
>
> are being set where he went missing.  How fortunate for the ones that
> have been/will be helped.  Thank you Jack, now COME HOME!
> Nina
>
> Susan Loesch wrote:
> > Nina, thank you so much.  Please do send prayers Jack's way.  He
> > disappeared on Jan. 1st and there hasn't been a day, hardly that
> > someone from his family or our rescue group hasn't been "on the
> > streets" looking for him and talking to people.  I really do like the
> > business card idea -- we did, in addition to flyers, half-size
> > "handbills" -- half of an 81/2 x 11 page which we put on doors and
> > gave to people - but the business cards are easier for people to hold
> > on to.  The neighborhood is really interesting -- an old downtown
> > 'hood area where people are moving in and renovating old homes.  Lots
> > of boarded up homes, brushy areas mixed in with better cared for
> > places.  Last night a couple of kids brought a black cat to Dianne's
> > (Jack's mom) door thinking it was Jack.  It wasn't but Dianne took it
> > in because it had an injured tail and took to vet this morning.
> > She's also taken all unaltered animals she's trapped to be altered.
> > Our rescue group has discovered in this search that this is the
> > neighborhood where we want to begin to concentrate on tnr- we are
> > calling our effort "The Jackie Project" in Jack's honor -- we have met
> > many wonderful people with essentially zero resources who are willing
> > to feed strays but can't afford spay neuter.   Jack's nicknames are
> > Jackie and Ducky.  He is black but with a brownish tint in the sun.
> > He has lots of sinus problems and lots of the time has the tip of his
> > tongue sticking out.  I have been amazed that every single person we
> > have talked to -- including knocking on the door at all hours -- has
> > been indredible -- not one single person has refused a request to let
> > us check basements or walk their property -- and we have felt safe
> > even though this is a neighborhood high in drug activity and police
> > activity.  Other than not finding Jack yet it has been a totally
> > positive experience.
>
>
>


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Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Kelley

[Susan Loesch]

Thank you!We've located lost cats after 4-5 weeks -- it really helps to 
hear about one found after 2 months!While we haven't found Jack we also 
haven't found a body or his red collar -- so there is hope.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:This is an awesome site that helps 
people find their lost pets.
   
  http://www.lostapet.org/
   
  I hope Jack comes home safely.  I had a rescue kitty escape from my home last 
year in early January and found her in March by the garbage cans, so you never 
know.

 
  On 1/22/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Such a bittersweet story about 
the neighborhood Jack's gone missing in.
It sounds like so much good will be done in his honor.  Isn't that just 
life in a nutshell?  Since the folks in that area seem so kindly
disposed to animals, I'm wondering if someone has taken Jackie in, or is
at least keeping him fed.  I know it must be cold out, but is your
friend keeping a window or door ajar in case he wanders back home?
Around 3am seems to be the time when they feel safe to attempt travel.
Has your friend been going outside and shaking a package of dry food
around that time?  Since other's have been trapped, it sounds like traps 
are being set where he went missing.  How fortunate for the ones that
have been/will be helped.  Thank you Jack, now COME HOME!
Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
> Nina, thank you so much.  Please do send prayers Jack's way.  He 
> disappeared on Jan. 1st and there hasn't been a day, hardly that
> someone from his family or our rescue group hasn't been "on the
> streets" looking for him and talking to people.  I really do like the 
> business card idea -- we did, in addition to flyers, half-size
> "handbills" -- half of an 81/2 x 11 page which we put on doors and
> gave to people - but the business cards are easier for people to hold 
> on to.  The neighborhood is really interesting -- an old downtown
> 'hood area where people are moving in and renovating old homes.  Lots
> of boarded up homes, brushy areas mixed in with better cared for 
> places.  Last night a couple of kids brought a black cat to Dianne's
> (Jack's mom) door thinking it was Jack.  It wasn't but Dianne took it
> in because it had an injured tail and took to vet this morning. 
> She's also taken all unaltered animals she's trapped to be altered.
> Our rescue group has discovered in this search that this is the
> neighborhood where we want to begin to concentrate on tnr- we are 
> calling our effort "The Jackie Project" in Jack's honor -- we have met
> many wonderful people with essentially zero resources who are willing
> to feed strays but can't afford spay neuter.   Jack's nicknames are 
> Jackie and Ducky.  He is black but with a brownish tint in the sun.
> He has lots of sinus problems and lots of the time has the tip of his
> tongue sticking out.  I have been amazed that every single person we 
> have talked to -- including knocking on the door at all hours -- has
> been indredible -- not one single person has refused a request to let
> us check basements or walk their property -- and we have felt safe 
> even though this is a neighborhood high in drug activity and police
> activity.  Other than not finding Jack yet it has been a totally
> positive experience.






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To Kelley: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat

[wendy]

Hey Kelley,

I hope your new 'feral' kitty is doing well today.  I
read all the threads today on her, and it sounds like
things are slowly going to work out.  Thank goodness
she is eating!-I would have been panicked about that
too.  Keep us posted on her!

:)
Wendy

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Re: To Kelley: Re: Missy

[Marylyn]

Have Missy's portrait made--either by a professional or a friend who is 
really good with a camera.  Assuming you out live her, you will take great 
pleasure in this.  At least I have with my own critters.  I truly enjoy 
looking at their pictures.  They remind me of how totally wonderful our 
friends can be.


If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:56 PM
Subject: To Kelley: Re: Missy



Dear Kelley,

You will be strong enough.  You will be strong enough
for Missy, because you love her so.  You asked how we
do it...I believe that the good Lord doesn't give us
more than we can handle.  Of course, when times get
tough for me, the only way I can get through them is
by asking for help through prayer.  If I didn't do
that, I would be much worse off.  Those tears you cry
are not bad.  They are cleansing, and help you to
grieve.  Knowing Missy is ill allows you to grieve
beforehand, and strangely enough, will help you to
accept the inevitable, Missy's passing.  Thank God you
are there for Missy to love her while she is here.  If
you can, try to make the time Missy has left a happy
time, for you and for her.  Celebrate her life with
her.  Her life is beautiful and a blessing to you.
You will have time to grieve when she passes on.
Prayers going out for little Missy and for you.

:)
Wendy

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To Kelley: Re: Missy

[wendy]

Dear Kelley,

You will be strong enough.  You will be strong enough
for Missy, because you love her so.  You asked how we
do it...I believe that the good Lord doesn't give us
more than we can handle.  Of course, when times get
tough for me, the only way I can get through them is
by asking for help through prayer.  If I didn't do
that, I would be much worse off.  Those tears you cry
are not bad.  They are cleansing, and help you to
grieve.  Knowing Missy is ill allows you to grieve
beforehand, and strangely enough, will help you to
accept the inevitable, Missy's passing.  Thank God you
are there for Missy to love her while she is here.  If
you can, try to make the time Missy has left a happy
time, for you and for her.  Celebrate her life with
her.  Her life is beautiful and a blessing to you. 
You will have time to grieve when she passes on. 
Prayers going out for little Missy and for you.  

:)
Wendy

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Re: To Kelley re. floors

[Marylyn]

The sealer can add the shine that the shellac adds.  Check under Acid blush 
and concrete stain on the internet and disregard what they say about only 
pros can put it down.  Remember that the more the shine the slippery the 
service so perhaps some sort of sand can be added







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:43 PM
Subject: To Kelley re. floors



Hey Kelley,

My husband and I tiled our house ourselves this past
spring and summer.  We did almost the whole house,
except for the master bedroom, master closet-pretty
small, and one of the other bedrooms.  Our whole house
is a little over 1500 square feet, so it was quite a
job, but we did it, and it looks great.  I would say
it cost under $4000, but we picked out porcelain tile
and what we liked.  It could have been done for about
$2000-$3000 had we gone cheaper on the tile.  Also, I
went to a friend's house last month that had the
stained concrete like Phaewryn was talking about, and
it looked absolutely fantastic.  They stained it a
brownish color, and the concrete had been etched
(scored) to look like large tiles, 2x2 or bigger, and
then covered with a really shiny shellac.  It looked
GREAT, and I bet it was not expensive.  The only thing
about concrete is that it's porous, so the shellac had
to also needs to be a sealer.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I really want tile, but it is SO EXPENSIVE.

On 11/22/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I've heard horror stories about wood laminate,
the cat/dog pee eats
> through the finish and destroys it.
>
> Phaewryn
>
> Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat
Rescue!!!
> http://ucat.us/adopt.html
> Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency
Financial Assistance
> for cat owners:
> http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html
> Special Needs Cat Resources:
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
> The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html
> Find us on PETFINDER!
http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html
>



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Re: To Kelley: Re: Sick cat, ideas?

[Kelley Saveika]

Yes, it is propelyne (sp?) glycol they can't have.  I have a huge tub of
l-lysine.  My heart kitty Missy gets it.

On 11/23/06, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Kelley,

I am in agreement with Phaewryn.  I adopted a kitten
that had it this past February, and we went through
three different medicines, including the Viroptic and
antibiotics, for her corneal ulcer and nothing worked
until I tried the L-lysine (no additives; one additive
can cause blood problems in cats).  I couldn't believe
that the lysine made the ulcer go away after all that
time and meds.

:)
Wendy





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To Kelley: Re: Sick cat, ideas?

[wendy]

Kelley,

I am in agreement with Phaewryn.  I adopted a kitten
that had it this past February, and we went through
three different medicines, including the Viroptic and
antibiotics, for her corneal ulcer and nothing worked
until I tried the L-lysine (no additives; one additive
can cause blood problems in cats).  I couldn't believe
that the lysine made the ulcer go away after all that
time and meds.

:)
Wendy


 

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To Kelley re. floors

[wendy]

Hey Kelley,

My husband and I tiled our house ourselves this past
spring and summer.  We did almost the whole house,
except for the master bedroom, master closet-pretty
small, and one of the other bedrooms.  Our whole house
is a little over 1500 square feet, so it was quite a
job, but we did it, and it looks great.  I would say
it cost under $4000, but we picked out porcelain tile
and what we liked.  It could have been done for about
$2000-$3000 had we gone cheaper on the tile.  Also, I
went to a friend's house last month that had the
stained concrete like Phaewryn was talking about, and
it looked absolutely fantastic.  They stained it a
brownish color, and the concrete had been etched
(scored) to look like large tiles, 2x2 or bigger, and
then covered with a really shiny shellac.  It looked
GREAT, and I bet it was not expensive.  The only thing
about concrete is that it's porous, so the shellac had
to also needs to be a sealer.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I really want tile, but it is SO EXPENSIVE.
> 
> On 11/22/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  I've heard horror stories about wood laminate,
> the cat/dog pee eats
> > through the finish and destroys it.
> >
> > Phaewryn
> >
> > Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat
> Rescue!!!
> > http://ucat.us/adopt.html
> > Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency
> Financial Assistance
> > for cat owners:
> > http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html
> > Special Needs Cat Resources:
> http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
> > The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html
> > Find us on PETFINDER!
> http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> 
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> 



 

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Re: To Kelley: Re: Have yall seen these - Felv/FIV guidelines for vets

[Leslie Lawther]

THAT'S SO COOL TOO!  Dr. Edwards (on the Advisory Panel) is one of our vets!  She's awesome...  if any of you live in the Largo, FL area... she is one of the best vets I've ever found!

Leslie =^..^= 
On 10/5/06, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kelley,Wow!  Thanks so much for this information!  It'sreally good info. (what I've read so far) and I'm
printing it off to keep to refer to or forward on.Thanks so much for sending us the link!:)Wendy--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was surprised when I read this.>>> " *Cats infected with FeLV or FIV may live for many> years.> *>> A decision for euthanasia should never be made> solely on the basis of
>> whether or not a cat is infected.>http://www.aafponline.org/resources/guidelines/Felv_FIV_Guidelines.pdf
>> So maybe one of the questions we should advise new> people to ask their vets> is if they agree and abide by these guidelines...>> Apologies if yall have seen these before, I just
> hadn't...>> --> Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a> kitty life!>> http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
>> http://astore.amazon.com/austinsiamese-20>__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com-- Leslie =^..^=To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.  That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success.
---Ralph Waldo Emerson 

To Kelley: Re: Have yall seen these - Felv/FIV guidelines for vets

[wendy]

Kelley,

Wow!  Thanks so much for this information!  It's
really good info. (what I've read so far) and I'm
printing it off to keep to refer to or forward on. 
Thanks so much for sending us the link!

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was surprised when I read this.
> 
> 
> ” *Cats infected with FeLV or FIV may live for many
> years.
> *
> 
> A decision for euthanasia should never be made
> solely on the basis of
> 
> whether or not a cat is infected.
>
http://www.aafponline.org/resources/guidelines/Felv_FIV_Guidelines.pdf
> 
> So maybe one of the questions we should advise new
> people to ask their vets
> is if they agree and abide by these guidelines...
> 
> Apologies if yall have seen these before, I just
> hadn't...
> 
> -- 
> Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a
> kitty life!
> 
> http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
> 
> http://astore.amazon.com/austinsiamese-20
> 


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