Re: burncd and cdrecord

2004-03-08 Thread anubis
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I backed some files up using burncd and cdrecord. The files burned
 fine. But the problem that I am having. Is that I am unabel to see
 the files. The command I used for burn cd was: burncd -f
 /dev/asc1c -s max -e data *.* fixate. And the command I used for
 cdrecord i baleve was: cdrecord dev=1,1,0 *.*. I am not sure the
 exact command I did for cdrecord. Because I only have 1,1,0 written
 down. I am using FreeBSD 4.9  and have a Hewlett Packard Cd-Writer
 Plus 9100 series.

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Dude, you need to create an iso first.  Look at man 8 mkisofs
Also take some time and look here at the handbook Section 12.5
http://www.au.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html

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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

2004-03-08 Thread Larry Hammer
On Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:42:56 PM Barry Hawkins 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mar 4, 2004, at 1:33 PM, Gerard Seibert wrote:

 I am running FreeBSD 5.2.1 - RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 23 20:45:55 GMT 2004

 It seems that I can no longer log into my system. Upon boot-up, the
 usually login appears. I enter my normal login and then my password. I 
 am
 then greeted with this error message:

 BudMan login: pam_acct_mgmt(1): user account has expired
 Login Incorrect.

 Shortly afterwards I receive these error messages:

 BudMan cron[538] _secure_path: /usr/home/ges/.login_conf is not owned 
 by
 root

 The last error message will repeat with the number getting 
 progressively
 higher.

 This is a fresh install of FreeBSD. The only thing I added was KDE 3.2
 today. Can anyone tell me what has happened and how do I get back into 
 my
 system?

 Thanks in advance!

 Gerard Seibert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Gerard,
I am having a similar issue logging in on 5.2.1-RC2, and it seems to 
have happened around the time I added a user and some groups using the 
KUser utility in KDE.  All accounts, including root, are expired.  My 
error message is:

login: pam_acct_mgmt(): user accound has expired
Login Incorrect.

Then, a bit later, I receive messages like the following:

kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0008 != )
kernel: psmintr: discard a byte(1)

On a side note, the message really does display accound instead of 
account; it's not a typo of mine.  Searches on the following phrases 
within the questions and newbies mailing lists produced no leads for me 
to research:
'pam_acct_mgmt(): user accound has expired'
'pam_acct_mgmt():'
'psmintr'

Regards,
-- 
Barry C. Hawkins
All Things Computed
site: www.allthingscomputed.com
weblog: www.yepthatsme.com

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Sunday, March 07, 2004 1:44:11 PM

That is exactly what I was doing when this problem occurred. I am going
to the KDE site and report this problem. It might be a bug of some sort.
You might want to do the same if you have not all ready.

As a side bar, in the master.passwd file, near the top, is an entry
that includes: Charlie . Is it possible, or should I say, advisable
to change that entry manually or just leave it as is?

Thanks!

Gerard Seibert
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I had a similar problem  when I upgraded from FBSD 4.9/KDE 3.14  to 4-stable/ 
KDE 3.2 ie:
I could not su from a console window it would give me the account expired msg 
and if tried to change consoles by ctrl,alt, Fx I could not log in as 
root
I could login as root from kdm 
I used Kuser and reset the passwords for root and my other 2 users and it 
started working again, I can su and login to other consoles as expected
dont know if this helps as I am a newbee and most of the stuff that people are 
asking about is either way over my head or the answer I know comes directly 
from the hand book.

Larry Hammer
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Re: why can't I get FreeBSD-RELEASE-p14 with this cvsup file ?

2004-03-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 07:16:36AM +, Supote Leelasupphakorn wrote:
 Hi all
 
I've cvsup with below supfile. After finished,
 The file:/usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh say 
 
 #   @(#)newvers.sh  8.1 (Berkeley) 4/20/94
 # $FreeBSD: src/sys/conf/newvers.sh,v 1.44.2.29.2.15 2003/11/27
 16:34:21 nectar Exp $
 
 TYPE=FreeBSD
 REVISION=4.8
 BRANCH=RELEASE-p14
 RELEASE=${REVISION}-${BRANCH}
 VERSION=${TYPE} ${RELEASE}
 
Even I specificed date in supfile (the date is from Security
 Advisory: FreeBSD-SA-04:02.shmat), it's RELEASE-p14 not
 RELEASE-p15. Why and how do I get previous branch of source
 tree.
 
 ##
 # My supfile.
 ##
 *default host=cvsup2.jp.freebsd.org
 *default base=/usr/local/etc
 *default prefix=/usr
 *default release=cvs date=2004.02.04.18.01.18 tag=RELENG_4_8
 *default delete use-rel-suffix
 *default compress
 src-all

What are you trying to do?  You have specified a date to cvsup to, so
you'll get the contents of the source tree at that point in time.  If
you want a later date, specify it, or just don't specify a date at all
if you want the latest revision on that branch.

Kris


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Re: Postfix install questions..

2004-03-08 Thread Micheal Patterson





- Original Message - 
From: Remko Lodder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Micheal Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:37 AM
Subject: RE: Postfix install questions..


 Try changing the file master.cf

 The first unhashed line with smtp, change the smtpd command {at the end of
 the line}
 into smtpd -v,
 Then reload postfix, now you have more verbose logging and it could tell
you
 what typo you probably made,

 When that does not work, perhaps displaying your main.cf could help

 Oh, dont forget to turn off the verbose logging again by removing the -v
 from
 the changed line ;)

 cheers

 --

 Kind regards,

 Remko Lodder
 Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
 www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
 hackerscene


I got it. I needed to run postmap on main.cf after configuring it.

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Re: why can't I get FreeBSD-RELEASE-p14 with this cvsup file ?

2004-03-08 Thread Supote Leelasupphakorn
Hi, Kris

   My objective is I want to get FreeBSD security branch
( 4.8-RELEASE-p15 ) and as the Security Advisory in
www.freebsd.org
(ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-04:02.shmat.asc)
stated that source tree after 2004-02-04 18:01:18 is corrected
so I specified above date in supfile but still get only
4.8-RELEASE-p14. Why isn't it 4.8-RELEASE-p15 ?

TIA,
Pote


 --- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On Mon, Mar
08, 2004 at 07:16:36AM +, Supote
 Leelasupphakorn wrote:
  Hi all
  
 I've cvsup with below supfile. After finished,
  The file:/usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh say 
  
  #   @(#)newvers.sh  8.1 (Berkeley) 4/20/94
  # $FreeBSD: src/sys/conf/newvers.sh,v 1.44.2.29.2.15
 2003/11/27
  16:34:21 nectar Exp $
  
  TYPE=FreeBSD
  REVISION=4.8
  BRANCH=RELEASE-p14
  RELEASE=${REVISION}-${BRANCH}
  VERSION=${TYPE} ${RELEASE}
  
 Even I specificed date in supfile (the date is from
 Security
  Advisory: FreeBSD-SA-04:02.shmat), it's RELEASE-p14 not
  RELEASE-p15. Why and how do I get previous branch of source
  tree.
  
  ##
  # My supfile.
  ##
  *default host=cvsup2.jp.freebsd.org
  *default base=/usr/local/etc
  *default prefix=/usr
  *default release=cvs date=2004.02.04.18.01.18 tag=RELENG_4_8
  *default delete use-rel-suffix
  *default compress
  src-all
 
 What are you trying to do?  You have specified a date to cvsup
 to, so
 you'll get the contents of the source tree at that point in
 time.  If
 you want a later date, specify it, or just don't specify a
 date at all
 if you want the latest revision on that branch.
 
 Kris
 

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Re: why can't I get FreeBSD-RELEASE-p14 with this cvsup file ?

2004-03-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 09:39:04AM +, Supote Leelasupphakorn wrote:
 Hi, Kris
 
My objective is I want to get FreeBSD security branch
 ( 4.8-RELEASE-p15 ) and as the Security Advisory in
 www.freebsd.org
 (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-04:02.shmat.asc)
 stated that source tree after 2004-02-04 18:01:18 is corrected
 so I specified above date in supfile but still get only
 4.8-RELEASE-p14. Why isn't it 4.8-RELEASE-p15 ?

You're probably off by a few seconds or minutes.  Just update to the
head of the branch and you'll be fine.

Kris


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Antivir doesn't work on local 5.x file system, but works fine

2004-03-08 Thread George Swentek
Martin, I think this is an error for sure, because I tested what you told me 

and it appears that even with -s option antivir doesn't perform recursive scanning 

on the directories, which is its normal behaviour. Also I think that H+B are using some

old function in their code that has been modified in 5.X and that is the reason for

this problems.( We get precompiled binary and they are doing it on 4.X .. )

I installed  5.X installation  over 4.X file system and the error was still present!

 

Personally  moved the directories I need to be scanned on different partition and this 

solved  my problem , but  they should fix that thing.





Regards,

George Swentek
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Re: Java installation: pdmu not found

2004-03-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 08:31:23AM +0100, Sven Hohage wrote:
 I'm a newbie using FreeBSD  - almost using 5.2 for some days as a server 
 in my homelan(Pentium 3 700).
 So I'm not sure if my question is more likely to be thrown in the 
 Newbies list.
 
 I tried to install the linux-sun-jdk14.
 Before that I updated the port because I couldn't find 1.4.2_02 on the 
 sun website which was neeced by the distfinfo checksum.
 I made a portupgrade -a and the started as root with make install but 
 the compilation process stopped very quickly with:
 cd /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14/work/j2sdk1.4.2_03  /usr/bin/find . 
 -print  |  -pdmu -R root:wheel /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2
 -pdmu: not found
 *** Error code 127
 
 Any hint is very welcomed.

You've updated just the java/linux-sun-jdk14 port, but not the common
code in /usr/ports/Mk that it relies upon.  The problem you're seeing
is a missing definition of the $(CPIO) variable that was added to the
bsd.port.mk file.

Attempting to update the ports tree piecemeal as you are doing is
unlikely to be very productive: as well as problems with the core
build system you'll also run into troubles where dependencies have
been updated -- particularly shared libraries.

The most effective way of keeping up to date is to cvsup the *whole*
ports tree -- doing this regularly: say once a week, will not overtax
even a low bandwidth connection such as a POTS dialup, although
pulling down the distfiles for updated ports can be another matter.

The easiest way to get going with cvsup is:

# pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui

Then edit /etc/make.conf to set the following variables:

SUP_UPDATE= yes
#
SUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup
SUPFLAGS=   -g -L 2
SUPHOST=cvsup.XX.FreeBSD.org
#SUPFILE=/usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
PORTSSUPFILE=   /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
#DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile

where the SUPHOST setting should be set to your local cvsup mirror.
I've shown entries for cvsup'ing src and docs commented out, but you
can use those as well, if you want.

Then whenever you want to update your ports tree, just do:

# cd /usr/ports
# make update
# make index

and then portupgrade(1) to your heart's content.

One (entirely optional) tip that can save you some bandwidth is to
tell cvsup not to update the files INDEX (used on 4.x) and INDEX-5
(which 'make index' will replace anyhow).  Do that by adding the
lines:

ports/INDEX
ports/INDEX-5

to the /usr/sup/refuse file -- just create one if it doesn't exist already.

Cheers,

Matthew

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mounting

2004-03-08 Thread RYAN vAN GINNEKEN
I know there is there a way to mount a cd-rom drive automagiclly on 
reboot.  However i need to know how to do it so that if the cd is 
scratched or the drive is busted my machine will not hang up.  Also i 
have the same problems with my nfs mounts if a machine goes down 
somewhere now of my other machines will reboot.



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Wierd time changes

2004-03-08 Thread Mark Ovens
I'm completely baffled by this one. When FreeBSD shuts down/reboots it
changes the system clock. It *always* sets the hours to 20 and changes
the minutes and seconds (but I haven't worked out a pattern for that), 
but the date stays the same (see /var/log/messages below) although I 
once saw it keep the time and date correct, but set the year back *four* 
years(!) but that was when the correct time was 22:mm:ss.

If you look at the extract from /var/log/messages below, the time 
changes on the third line but it _doesn't_ change the system clock at 
that point; if I go into the BIOS, or boot WinXP (the box dual boots), 
when it reboots then the time is still correct. However, the next time I 
boot FreeBSD (whenever that may be) all the boot messages in 
/var/log/messages have the same timestamp (the same (incorrect) one as 
when it last shutdown) until the end of the boot sequence when the 
timestamp jumps forward ~20 seconds (which reflects the time it takes to 
boot). It is during the boot that it sets the system clock.

Since I can't find anyone else reporting this (in the mailing lists or 
searching on Google) I guess it is some strange interaction with my 
BIOS. I have seen WinXP do this *once* when it crashed with a BSoD (I've 
had several BSoDs though).

The m/b is an Asus A7M266-D running dual Athlon MP2800+ CPUs with BIOS 
version 1011 beta 3. The fact that it is a beta BIOS (needed for the 
MP2800 CPUs) maybe related. Even so, FreeBSD is storing the corrupted 
time somewhere and using it to set the system clock at the next boot.

FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE #10: Tue Jan 13 19:36:15 GMT 2004

I have since u/g to 5.2.1 and still have the same problem which occurs 
with both the GENERIC kernel and my customized kernel.

Can anyone shed any light on this at all please? Needless to say it 
causes problems, especially when it changes the clock by several years!!!

Thanks.

Regards,

Mark

--- begin /var/log/messages ---
Feb 11 16:17:28 redshift reboot: rebooted by root
Feb 11 16:17:28 redshift syslogd: exiting on signal 15
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: boot() called on cpu#1
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system
process `vnlru' to stop...stopped
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system
process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system
process `syncer' to stop...stopped
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel:
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining... 3 3
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: done
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD
Project.
[There was ~1 hour before the reboot into FreeBSD - first booted WinXP]

Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986,
1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: The Regents of the University of
California. All rights reserved.
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE #10: Tue Jan 13
19:36:15 GMT 2004
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/REDSHIFT


Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: cd2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: cd2: PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-305 1.05
Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: cd2: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz,
offset 16)
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: cd2: Attempt to query device size
failed: NOT READY, Medium not present
Feb 11 20:19:10 redshift kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da1s1a
Feb 11 20:19:28 redshift login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0
-- end /var/log/messages -
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Re: Postfix install questions..

2004-03-08 Thread Mike Maltese
 I got it. I needed to run postmap on main.cf after configuring it.

No, you need to run postfix reload after changing master.cf or main.cf.
Read the postmap man page for details on it's use.

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ISO files

2004-03-08 Thread Ioannis Vranos
Hi all,

What does the second disc 2 ISO file contain? I am talking about release
4.9.






Thank you,

Ioannis Vranos


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Re: why can't I get FreeBSD-RELEASE-p14 with this cvsup file ?

2004-03-08 Thread Supote Leelasupphakorn

 You're specifying a date string right down to the precise
second that
 the patches were applied to the tree, which I think is
confusing
 cvsup, and getting you the state of things just before the
update.
 All you need to do is specify a date *after* the patches went
 into the
 tree, but before the next set of patches.  Try:

 date=3D2004.02.05.12.00.00

 The next commits to RELENG_4_8 were as a result of
 FreeBSD-SA-04:04.tcp.asc, which went into the tree at
2004-03- 02
 17:27:47 UTC so you're no danger of overshooting and getting
 4.8-RELEASE-p16.

   Cheers,

   Matthew



To... Matthew

   Recently, I used below supfile (date after corrected date
stated in Security Advisory but I can't get the branch I
would like to get (4.8-RELEASE-p15). Anyway I can get most
updated
branch version (4.8-RELEASE-p16). Is it the my system date/time
issue ?


*default host=203.170.198.61
*default base=/usr/local/etc
*default prefix=/usr1
*default release=cvs date=2004.02.05.12.00.00 tag=RELENG_4_8
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all


TIA,
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Re: mounting

2004-03-08 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 03:11:14AM -0700, RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote:
[snip]
 Also i have the same problems with my nfs mounts if a machine goes
 down somewhere now of my other machines will reboot.

Have you tried mounting with the -s option?  Check the man page for
soft.

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Re: why can't I get FreeBSD-RELEASE-p14 with this cvsup file ?

2004-03-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 10:22:51AM +, Supote Leelasupphakorn wrote:
 
  You're specifying a date string right down to the precise
 second that
  the patches were applied to the tree, which I think is
 confusing
  cvsup, and getting you the state of things just before the
 update.
  All you need to do is specify a date *after* the patches went
  into the
  tree, but before the next set of patches.  Try:
 
  date=3D2004.02.05.12.00.00
 
  The next commits to RELENG_4_8 were as a result of
  FreeBSD-SA-04:04.tcp.asc, which went into the tree at
 2004-03- 02
  17:27:47 UTC so you're no danger of overshooting and getting
  4.8-RELEASE-p16.

Recently, I used below supfile (date after corrected date
 stated in Security Advisory but I can't get the branch I
 would like to get (4.8-RELEASE-p15). Anyway I can get most
 updated
 branch version (4.8-RELEASE-p16). Is it the my system date/time
 issue ?
 
 
 *default host=203.170.198.61
 *default base=/usr/local/etc
 *default prefix=/usr1
 *default release=cvs date=2004.02.05.12.00.00 tag=RELENG_4_8
 *default delete use-rel-suffix
 *default compress
 src-all

Shouldn't be. The date is passed to the cvsup server, and it's the
cvsup server's clock which would be used (if needed: the cvsup server
will be comparing timestamps written into the CVS ,v files in the
repository) -- as you seem to be using your own private cvsup server
rather than one of the FreeBSD ones, check with the admins of that
machine to be sure that the clock is set correctly.

Note that if your system clock on your own machine is not set
correctly, then while you can cvsup(1), you'll probably have all sorts
of trouble actually compiling.

About the only thing I can think of that may be affecting you is that
cvsup may not believe it 'owns' all of the files under /usr/src -- see
http://www.cvsup.org/faq.html#caniadopt and the following questions 11
and 12.  The instructions date back a few years, but it should be
fairly obvious how to adapt them for RELENG_4_8.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: ISO files

2004-03-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 12:22:34PM +0200, Ioannis Vranos wrote:

 What does the second disc 2 ISO file contain? I am talking about release
 4.9.

That's the 'Live Filesystem' CD -- it's a bootable CD with a fully
working of the OS which you can use to fix systems /in extremis/.

You don't need it during the normal course of installing the system:
only when things go horribly wrong.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:28:03PM -0500, JJB wrote:
 Right at the beginning of sysinstall should be warning  about what
 to set PC bios options to, like plugNplay off, power management off,
 boot time virus check disabled, PCI irq assignments set to auto, OS
 type set to non-windows, ect. Give then option to cancel sysinstall
 to set bios.

Or, alternatively, we could just put a URL to the documentation...

-lewiz.

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Re: FreeBsd and SCO

2004-03-08 Thread Raymond Wiegand
HI Jez

Thanks for the quick Responce answer and the helpful and informitive link.

Thanks again
Ray

From: Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Raymond Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBsd and SCO
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 06:47:38 +
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 11:06:32PM +, Raymond Wiegand wrote:
  I have a question for you ? I purchased FreeBSD from COMP USA and was
 wondering that seeing that SCO is going after Linux Users will they be
 going after BSD user next or is BSD not at all based on their kernal or
 what every they claim is theirs property.
See here:

http://www.lemis.com/grog/sco.html

especially:

http://www.lemis.com/grog/sco.html#BSD

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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Jud
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:06:38 -0600, Vulpes Velox [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 23:28:03 -0500
JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
This kind of pointed detailed information embedded into each
question installer is asked to respond to, provides the installer
with  the info necessary to make an informed chose right there in
front of them where it belongs and not off in some un-accessible
handbook.
...which is why I always tell friends who ask about installing FreeBSD to  
print the relevant Handbook sections (and read them, and ask questions  
about what they've read) in advance so the information will be sitting  
there in front of them.

Jud
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RE: ISO files

2004-03-08 Thread Ioannis Vranos
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Seaman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:38 PM
 To: Ioannis Vranos
 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List
 Subject: Re: ISO files
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 12:22:34PM +0200, Ioannis Vranos wrote:
 
  What does the second disc 2 ISO file contain? I am talking 
 about release
  4.9.
 
 That's the 'Live Filesystem' CD -- it's a bootable CD with a fully
 working of the OS which you can use to fix systems /in extremis/.
 
 You don't need it during the normal course of installing the system:
 only when things go horribly wrong.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew



Ok, thanks a lot.






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Re: ISO files

2004-03-08 Thread Frank Mueller
Hi,

it just contains additional binary packages.

Frank

 Hi all,

 What does the second disc 2 ISO file contain? I am talking about release
 4.9.






 Thank you,

 Ioannis Vranos


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Re: burncd and cdrecord

2004-03-08 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I backed some files up using burncd and cdrecord. The files burned fine.
 But the problem that I am having. Is that I am unabel to see the files. The
 command I used for burn cd was: burncd -f /dev/asc1c -s max -e data *.*
 fixate. And the command I used for cdrecord i baleve was: cdrecord
 dev=1,1,0 *.*. I am not sure the exact command I did for cdrecord. Because
 I only have 1,1,0 written down. I am using FreeBSD 4.9  and have a Hewlett
 Packard Cd-Writer Plus 9100 series.

The *.* in the above should be a prepared image of an ISO-9660 filesystem --
not just a set of ordinary files as they come.

You need to make the image using mkisofs. Have a look at the man page.

You might find the example script /usr/share/examples/worm/makecdfs.sh
a useful starting point although not exactly what you want as it  actually 
creates a bootable CD.

If you have an ATAPI CD drive then burncd is straightforward and works well
without the complication of atapicam.

Malcolm
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[Fwd: Re: Installation - More user friendly]

2004-03-08 Thread gaf
Hello everybody.
Ive been reading all comments onthis subject and just wanted to add my 
opinion. A couple of months ago i was only using windows. Only for 
downloading stuff and listen to music. My windows skills extended only 
to install windows and applications, I never messed with regedit or 
whatever its called. So I have a very limited os experience/skills. 
However I got sick of microsoft and wanted to try something else and I 
stumbled on FreeBSD. Without much reading of the handbook I found it 
quite simple to install. Even configuring X was no problem. My biggest 
problem was that I didnt know my hardware, monitor specs and so on. I 
did the installation a couple of times to practice and I havent had any 
big problems at all with sysinstall. After that I tried to install 
Debian Linux and found it more difficult.
It was after installing FreeBSD my problems started, to configure 
things. Now I need to spend a lot of time, that I dont have (according 
to my girlfriend), reading  the handbook (which I sometimes find 
confusing) and searching other sites for information. Also choosing apps 
is complicated, which to choose?!.
So my conclusion is that installation is no problem, the handbook told 
me everything I needed to know. If somebody wants an OS and at the 
sametime learn it thoroghly FreeBSD is perfect but it will take some 
reading. I want to learn. If I wanted to be up and going quickly and 
only klicking my way through, I  would stick to XP. I have also tried 
Mandrake, it is easy to install but one must still read and learn if you 
only know windows. So I go for FreeBSD to learn thoroughly (not popular 
with my girlfriend).
I hope I havent insulted anyone or anything (except micro.).
Kind regards
Nicolas
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Re: MAKEDEV question

2004-03-08 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 02:09, Stephen Liu wrote:
 - snip -

   # grep ppc0 /var/run/dmesg.boot
   ppc0 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0
   ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
   ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/7 bytes threshold
   ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
  
   I suppose lpt0 is supported.
 
  If your kernel detects it it will be listed in the dmesg:
 
  lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
  lpt0: Interrupt-driven port

 Hi Kris,

 Turned on printer to make following tests

 # dmesg
 .
 ppbus0: HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 690C MLC,PCL,PML
 plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
 lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
 ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
 ..

 ls -l /dev/lpt0
 crw---  1 root  wheel   16,   0 Mar  8 22:48 /dev/lpt0

 It is there.


 I skipped following steps

 1)
 # ./MAKEDEV port

 and
 2)
 # lptcontrol -i -d /dev/lpt0
 (to set interrupt-driven mode for lpt0)

 and
 3)
 # lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0
 (to set polled-mode for lptN)


 Jumped to;
 # lptest  /dev/lpt0
 only strange symbols printed and printing continued without stop until I
 removed the paper tray.  Communication between printer and port seemed
 working


It could be that your printer does not understand plain ascii text. What is
the make and model.

The other possibility is that there is something wrong in the communications
path -- a dud or incorrectly wired cable.

Malcolm Kay
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cross-compiling

2004-03-08 Thread Soeren Mindorf
Hi all,

I have a litte problem.

I try to compile the world and the kernel for my sparc64 on a Athlon
700MHz.

The buildmachine is FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE ant the Sparc sould be
5.2.1-RELEASE.

I cvsup the source into /usr/5.2.

I change to 5.2/src and start the build:

make -DNO_KERBEROS TARGET_ARCH=sparc64 buildworld

But I read that I should use ARCH=sparc64. But all my buildings
doesnt work. So I use the next:

make -DNO_KERBEROS TARGET_ARCH=sparc64 CPUTYPE=sparc64
buildwold

All the same.

I mounted /usr/5.2 to /usr/5.2 on the Sparc64 and do a

make -DNO_KERBEROS installworld

I also try:

make -DNO_KERBEROS TARGET_ARCH=sparc64 installworld

On every install I become the following error:

- cut -

bash-2.05b# make -DNO_KERBEROS installworld
mkdir -p /tmp/install.i17oPcSk
for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown  date echo egrep
find grep  ln make mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh sysctl  test
true uname wc zic; do  cp `which $prog` /tmp/install.i17oPcSk;  done
cd /usr/5.2/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj  MACHINE_ARCH=sparc64
MACHINE=sparc64  CPUTYPE=
GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/5.2/src/sparc64/legacy/usr/bin
GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/5.2/src/sparc64/legacy/usr/share/groff_font
GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/5.2/src/sparc64/legacy/usr/share/tmac
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/5.2/src/sparc64/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/5.2/src/sparc64/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/5.2/src/sparc64/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/5.2/src/sparc64/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/5.2/src/sparc64/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/5.2/src/sparc64/usr/games:/tmp/install.i17oPcSk
make -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall
--
 Making hierarchy
--
cd /usr/5.2/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 hierarchy
cd /usr/5.2/src/etc;make distrib-dirs
mtree -deU  -f /usr/5.2/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /
mtree -deU  -f /usr/5.2/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var
mtree -deU  -f /usr/5.2/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p /usr
mtree -deU  -f /usr/5.2/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist  -p
/usr/include
mtree -deU  -f /usr/5.2/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p /
cd /; rm -f /sys; ln -s usr/src/sys sys
cd /usr/share/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* .
cd /usr/share/man;  set - `grep ^[a-zA-Z]
/usr/5.2/src/etc/man.alias`;  while [ $# -gt 0 ] ;  do  rm -rf $1;
ln -s $2 $1;  shift; shift;  done
cd /usr/share/openssl/man;  set - `grep ^[a-zA-Z]
/usr/5.2/src/etc/man.alias`;  while [ $# -gt 0 ] ;  do  rm -rf $1;
ln -s $2 $1;  shift; shift;  done
cd /usr/share/openssl/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* .
cd /usr/share/nls;  set - `grep ^[a-zA-Z]
/usr/5.2/src/etc/nls.alias`;  while [ $# -gt 0 ] ;  do  rm -rf $1;
ln -s $2 $1;  shift; shift;  done

--
 Installing everything..
--
cd /usr/5.2/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install
=== share/info
=== include
creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh
touch: not found
*** Error code 127

Stop in /usr/5.2/src/include.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/5.2/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/5.2/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/5.2/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/5.2/src.
bash-2.05b#

- cut -

What is the problem or what I doesnt understand?

Regards, 
Soeren
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Simplifying FreeBSD Installation

2004-03-08 Thread Gerard Seibert
I have read a few posting regarding the FreeBSD installation procedure. I
thought that I might as well weigh in with my own comments since I am
fairly new to FreBSD, although I have been using computers since 1984
(good old DOS).

1) The installation procedure is not as polished as say that of
WinXP, but that is to be expected. It has been pointed out by others that
while the routine does offer many useful configuration options, it fail to
fully explain them to the user. The often-stated remark Read the
Directions or words to that effect are not truly germane to this issue.
The average user simply wants to plunk a disc into his computer and
install an OS with minimum input.

2) While network support is robust, it is not easily configured
within the OS. There are few if any wizards to guide the user. I have a
simple home networking system. Three computers - 2 = WinXP  1 = FreeBSD
5.2.1 - up and running. They are connected via a hub and then to a router
connected to a cable modem. It is not the most modern setup I agree, but
it is functional. Just to get FreeBSD to do a correct DHCP took a custom
script for the dhclient.conf file that someone was kind enough to give me.
Then getting the three computers to actually network together is another
story. Say what you want about networking, but since MS is the most used
OS available today, it would behoove FreeBSD to have in place a system to
routinely network with MS and not have to install additional software and
then be forced to reconfigure all of the computers to work with it. I can
attest to the fact that most individuals do not have the time or
inclination to go about that chore.

3) From what I have been able to deduce, the packages available from
FreeBSD are not as current as the ports collection. Downloading something
like Open Office or the complete KDE 3.2 suite and then installing it from
ports is not something most users would envy. It is a time consuming and
possible tedious venture. The packages should be kept as current as the
ports.

4) The installation procedure should offer the user a method of
starting KDE, Gnome or whatever automatically upon boot-up. Having to do
it all manually, whether adding the commands to the proper files or simply
using the command line is not good enough. The average user has little
time or patience to read through the XFree86 literature in addition to the
KDE or Gnome paraphernalia then go through the configuration process which
requires him/her to know specific monitor, and video card settings, etc to
get the system up and running. This does not even include the additional
effort of getting a 'wheel mouse' or 'optical mouse' properly configured.
As we are all too well aware of, such problems rarely occur in the
Microsoft OS. In any case, at least the latest versions.

5) Most non-Microsoft operating systems are three to five years, if
not more, behind in PNP technology. It is something that all non Microsoft
OS vendors should place greater effort on improving.

6) Greater effort should be put into getting the operating systems
more fully aware of various ACPI procedures used by various vendors. I
have seen when FreeBSD fails to use ACPI on several models of Compaq
computers even though MS has no such deficiency. The often-stated remark
that MS is simply working around a bug in the code is a cop-out by the
developers. If MS can work around a bug, so can other vendors.

7) The bottom line is that if FreeBSD or any other OS vendor wants to
become truly mainline, they have to get their products to work on the same
platform and perform as easily as Microsoft's operating system does. Once
they have reached that plateau, they can then proceed to improving on
their overall product features and usability.

Well that is enough of my ramblings. I just though that I might add my 2
cents to the mix.

Gerard Seibert
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portupgrade and binary packages

2004-03-08 Thread Michael Sig Birkmose
Hi everyone,

I recently tried to switch from compiling everything myself from ports, to
use portupgrade -PP package_name.

However, after having run CVSUP on my ports tree, I run into the problem,
that the binary packages from ftp.something.freebsd.org are far behind the
version in the portstree.

After a little bit of digging, I found out that
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/ has much
newer binary packages.

However it stills is a bit behind?
What is the solution to this problem, or is there none? I would really
like to avoid compiling things...

Cheers,

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Re: Recommend MTA

2004-03-08 Thread DeadZen

   Postfix is just as good, faster and free... without the quotes.
   search daemonnews for some good postfix articles.
   David Benfell wrote:

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:13:31 -0800, Chuck McManis wrote:
  

Actually I'm a bit surprised that things didn't go with Qmail. Not only is 
it everything Postfix aspires to be, it has a zillion hours of runtime 
under its belt. Its been at the 1.03 release forever because there hasn't 
been anything to fix. If I had one complaint it would be to do an 
integration pass over the various pop3/imap/ssl/etc modifications to create 
an integrated pop3/mta that could allow for roaming delivery out of the box.



First, Qmail is available via the port system.  The installation does
everything right.  It is nice.  It is painless.  I run it.  I wouldn't
run anything else.  It is what works for me.

Some people, however, can't get along with Qmail's configuration.  I
don't know why.  But I can't criticize, since I can't grok Postfix's
configuration, let alone Sendmail's.

But the main reason distributions don't offer Qmail as part of their
standard installation, or even as an option on the installation, is
because Dan Bernstein forbids the distribution of binaries or even
patched sources.  (The port fetches the source and then fetches any
patches, separately.)  He has his own license, which is not a free
software license.  (Irritating side question: Should this be an FAQ?)

Finally, there are now some recommended patches.  If you look at Life
With Qmail, you'll find that the recommended installation procedure
uses netqmail rather than vanilla qmail.

  
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Re: A question on installing printer

2004-03-08 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 FreeBSD 5.2
 
 I am now configuring printer and aware that 'MAKEDEV' has been replaced with 
 'devfs'
 
 According to handbook I should run
 
 # ./MAKEDEV lpt0 (para port)
 
 whether to be replaced with
 
 # ./devfs -m lpt0

No, devfs should recognize the device on its own, without your having
to do anything.  Is there a /dev/lpt0 already?

Also, see man devfs.

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Re: Recommend MTA

2004-03-08 Thread Cordula's Web
  * Are you concerned about security?
sendmail is a big monolithic SUID-root programs,
while postfix is a set of isolated processes/programs,
so postfix _may_ be a better alternative.
 
 please don't post false/outdated information.
 
 Sendmail 8.12.* is SGID to a non-privilleged user only.
 this was released in September 2001.
 8.12.2 was included in CURRENT in February 2002.
 8.12.2 was included in STABLE in March 2002.

Oops, you were right:

% ls -l /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail 
-r-xr-sr-x  1 root  smmsp  587896 Mar  7 11:35 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail

Sorry.

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Running Linux binaries

2004-03-08 Thread Dmitry
Hi all.
I'm trying to run a Linux binary in FreeBSD 5.2.
I have Linux compat installed and kld module linux.ko loaded
I'm getting this error message:

$ ./breve
./breve: error while loading sharing libraries: libglut.so.3:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
It looks like it need libglut.so.3. I have it. I copy it from
/usr/X11R6/lib to /compat/linux/lib and try to run the binary again:
$ ./breve
./breve: error while loading sharing libraries: libglut.so.3:
ELF file OS ABI invalid
I tried branding it as written in Handbook but it changes nothing.

Is there any way to use FreeBSD libraries to run Linux binaries or
I have to get the Linux versions of them?
And how to cross-compile libraries if i have sources?
And the last question. If a binary uses a Linux proc filesystem
will it be anought to mount linprocfs to /compat/linux/proc
Thanks.
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cvsup mirror updates failing

2004-03-08 Thread stan
ONe of my cvsup mirros is suddenly getting errors like this:

SetAttrs ports/sysutils/lire/Makefile,v
TreeList failed: Error in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client/cvs-all/checkouts.cvs
: 124218: Invalid file type.  Delete it and try again.
CVSup update ends at 2004-03-08 07:41:16

What is this trying to tell me? And how do I fix this?

-- 
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neither liberty nor safety.
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RE: Simplifying FreeBSD Installation

2004-03-08 Thread Marc Silver
Hi there,

I understand what you're getting at, but I think that you may be overlooking
one important fact:  FreeBSD is developed by people with a passion for the
operating system, who want nothing more than to make it the best they can.
They volunteer their time to the project, foregoing financial renumeration
and accolades, simply because they see potential in a project grown from the
ground up by people who love it.

You compare FreeBSD to Microsoft, but they're fundamentally different
operating systems.  I agree with you that perhaps the installation procedure
should be more user friendly, but there are other areas where FreeBSD is
MUCH stronger than Windows.  I have yet to see a Windows machine outperform
any of my FreeBSD servers under load...

That said, if you believe that FreeBSD needs work, why not get involved and
help to make it better?  I have no doubt that there are other people
interested in improving the same areas as you, so why not lend a hand and
improve FreeBSD, so that everyone can benefit?  :)

That's _my_ 2c,
Marc 

 -Original Message-
 From: Gerard Seibert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 3:05 PM
 To: freebsd-questions
 Subject: Simplifying FreeBSD Installation
 
 I have read a few posting regarding the FreeBSD installation 
 procedure. I thought that I might as well weigh in with my 
 own comments since I am fairly new to FreBSD, although I have 
 been using computers since 1984 (good old DOS).
 
 1) The installation procedure is not as polished as say that 
 of WinXP, but that is to be expected. It has been pointed out 
 by others that while the routine does offer many useful 
 configuration options, it fail to fully explain them to the 
 user. The often-stated remark Read the Directions or words 
 to that effect are not truly germane to this issue.
 The average user simply wants to plunk a disc into his 
 computer and install an OS with minimum input.
 
 2) While network support is robust, it is not easily 
 configured within the OS. There are few if any wizards to 
 guide the user. I have a simple home networking system. Three 
 computers - 2 = WinXP  1 = FreeBSD
 5.2.1 - up and running. They are connected via a hub and then 
 to a router connected to a cable modem. It is not the most 
 modern setup I agree, but it is functional. Just to get 
 FreeBSD to do a correct DHCP took a custom script for the 
 dhclient.conf file that someone was kind enough to give me.
 Then getting the three computers to actually network together 
 is another story. Say what you want about networking, but 
 since MS is the most used OS available today, it would 
 behoove FreeBSD to have in place a system to routinely 
 network with MS and not have to install additional software 
 and then be forced to reconfigure all of the computers to 
 work with it. I can attest to the fact that most individuals 
 do not have the time or inclination to go about that chore.
 
 3) From what I have been able to deduce, the packages 
 available from FreeBSD are not as current as the ports 
 collection. Downloading something like Open Office or the 
 complete KDE 3.2 suite and then installing it from ports is 
 not something most users would envy. It is a time consuming 
 and possible tedious venture. The packages should be kept as 
 current as the ports.
 
 4) The installation procedure should offer the user a method 
 of starting KDE, Gnome or whatever automatically upon 
 boot-up. Having to do it all manually, whether adding the 
 commands to the proper files or simply using the command line 
 is not good enough. The average user has little time or 
 patience to read through the XFree86 literature in addition 
 to the KDE or Gnome paraphernalia then go through the 
 configuration process which requires him/her to know specific 
 monitor, and video card settings, etc to get the system up 
 and running. This does not even include the additional effort 
 of getting a 'wheel mouse' or 'optical mouse' properly configured.
 As we are all too well aware of, such problems rarely occur 
 in the Microsoft OS. In any case, at least the latest versions.
 
 5) Most non-Microsoft operating systems are three to five 
 years, if not more, behind in PNP technology. It is something 
 that all non Microsoft OS vendors should place greater effort 
 on improving.
 
 6) Greater effort should be put into getting the operating 
 systems more fully aware of various ACPI procedures used by 
 various vendors. I have seen when FreeBSD fails to use ACPI 
 on several models of Compaq computers even though MS has no 
 such deficiency. The often-stated remark that MS is simply 
 working around a bug in the code is a cop-out by the 
 developers. If MS can work around a bug, so can other vendors.
 
 7) The bottom line is that if FreeBSD or any other OS vendor 
 wants to become truly mainline, they have to get their 
 products to work on the same platform and perform as easily 
 as Microsoft's operating system does. 

Re: Simplifying FreeBSD Installation

2004-03-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 

Some comments on your comments.
Skipping lots.

 1) The installation procedure is not as polished as say that of
 WinXP, but that is to be expected. It has been pointed out by others that
 while the routine does offer many useful configuration options, it fail to
 fully explain them to the user. The often-stated remark Read the
 Directions or words to that effect are not truly germane to this issue.

I agree that the initial install time descriptions are weak in many 
places.   When you come upon a choice and the built in help only
says make a choice between whatever the listed items are and doesn't
give any information about why one might want to choose one or another 
of the choices, it isn't much help.Now, I have noticed this same
failing in MS installation help, but then it doesn't matter so much
because you don't really have a choice there anyway.   You're stuck
with whatever you are preordained for.   MS believes in predestination
and they are god you know.

 2) While network support is robust, it is not easily configured
 within the OS. There are few if any wizards to guide the user. I have a
 simple home networking system. Three computers - 2 = WinXP  1 = FreeBSD
 5.2.1 - up and running. They are connected via a hub and then to a router
 connected to a cable modem. It is not the most modern setup I agree, but
 it is functional. Just to get FreeBSD to do a correct DHCP took a custom
 script for the dhclient.conf file that someone was kind enough to give me.
 Then getting the three computers to actually network together is another
 story. Say what you want about networking, but since MS is the most used
 OS available today, it would behoove FreeBSD to have in place a system to
 routinely network with MS and not have to install additional software and
 then be forced to reconfigure all of the computers to work with it. I can
 attest to the fact that most individuals do not have the time or
 inclination to go about that chore.

It might help to have some wizards for network setup, but in the FreeBSD
world, the network topologies are many and varied.   So, just doing a 
MS predestination trick and creating a wizard that limits you to someone's
narrow idea of a network would cause more trouble than just learning how
to do it right.   A couple of wizards to do a couple of very basic, no
extras setups for say a dialup and a NIC hookup to an existing and
well functioning lan might be useful, but FreeBSD goes so much beyond that
that it leaves the world of wizards far behind.

 3) From what I have been able to deduce, the packages available from
 FreeBSD are not as current as the ports collection. Downloading something
 like Open Office or the complete KDE 3.2 suite and then installing it from
 ports is not something most users would envy. It is a time consuming and
 possible tedious venture. The packages should be kept as current as the
 ports.

I have downloaded a number of freeware things in the MS world from places
like Tucows.com and Download.com and have also downloaded the precompiled
package of openoffice from http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/  and found
the amount of effort to be about the same.   I did need to know a little
more about my directory paths doing the openoffice install, but otherwise
it was no more than doing the ftp and running pkg-add on the downloaded
file and then running the setup program.   Those are exactly the same
steps I would have to take to install some piece of MS world freeware.

Plus, somewhere in the installation, maybe it was in the XFree86 setup, I
don't remember, it offered me the choice of preferred windows manager
and it installed and did real basic setups for both afterstep and KDE for 
me with no problem.   It also offered Gnome, but that was just too much
overkill for me the last time I tried it so I didn't bother with that.
Later, I wanted to tinker with my afterstep, so I had to learn where to
find some stuff, but gee whiz,  not everyone is a dumb as you seem to 
think they are.

 4) The installation procedure should offer the user a method of
 starting KDE, Gnome or whatever automatically upon boot-up. 

The installation procedure gives the oportunity to install and prepare
some generic windows manager plus Afterstep whose simplicity I prefer for
most things (though I do wish it had anchors for each window I open), as
well as the desktop managers KDE and Gnome.It seems to happily install 
them and all the related dependancies with only the effort of clicking the 
selection boxes.

As for starting them upon boot-up, that isn't a very good idea.  As you
must be aware by now, when you first boot up FreeBSD, no one is logged in.
A user must log in to begin any work on the machine.   You can modify
a login session to start up one of these things if you want although 
having the user type startx is not much of a strain either.   Whether you
leave it as startx or put something in .login or whatever bash place it
would have to go, the ability for each 

Re: cvsup mirror updates failing

2004-03-08 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 08 March 2004 06:31 am, stan wrote:
 ONe of my cvsup mirros is suddenly getting errors like this:

 SetAttrs ports/sysutils/lire/Makefile,v
 TreeList failed: Error in
 /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client/cvs-all/checkouts.cvs : 124218:
 Invalid file type.  Delete it and try again.
 CVSup update ends at 2004-03-08 07:41:16

 What is this trying to tell me? And how do I fix this?

It looks like cvsup doesn't like a line in your cvs-mirror's 
checkouts.cvs;. file. It is a text file. You can edit it and remove the 
line and try to update your mirror.

There have been times when people have deleted their checkouts file. The 
next mirror update goes pretty slow but works. I was trying to update 
my mirror with a -s option on cvsup but it didn't save anytime, so I 
removed the option.

Kent

-- 
Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
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Re: MAKEDEV question

2004-03-08 Thread Stephen Liu
- snip -

  I skipped following steps
 
  1)
  # ./MAKEDEV port
 
  and
  2)
  # lptcontrol -i -d /dev/lpt0
  (to set interrupt-driven mode for lpt0)
 
  and
  3)
  # lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0
  (to set polled-mode for lptN)
 
 
  Jumped to;
  # lptest  /dev/lpt0
  only strange symbols printed and printing continued without stop until I
  removed the paper tray.  Communication between printer and port seemed
  working

 It could be that your printer does not understand plain ascii text. What is
 the make and model.

 The other possibility is that there is something wrong in the
 communications path -- a dud or incorrectly wired cable.

Hi Malcolm,

FreeBSD 5.2
Printer HP Desktop 690c
===

Thanks for your response.

I missed steps 2) and 3) mentioned above.  I performed further test as 
follows;

step-2
# lptcontrol -i -d /dev/lpt0
 
step-3
# lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0
 
both without printout
 
rebooted PC because having got printer turned on. The later could not be 
detected with 'dmesg'
 
** how can I detect the printer to avoid 'reboot' ??
 
After reboot
# dmesg
Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
ppbus0: HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 690C MLC,PCL,PML
plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
 
# ls -l /dev/lpt0
crw--- 1 root wheel 16, 0 Mar 9 01:17 /dev/lpt0
 
Repeated step-2 and step-3 above
(also no printout)
 
# lptest  /dev/lpt0
 
One line printed on 1st paper as follow;
!#$%'()*
+,-./0123456789:;=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
It seemed OK but feed-in paper continued with 'no_paper' light on (I put only 
1 paper in the tray)
 
B.R.
satimis

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GUI for user authentication

2004-03-08 Thread Cookski - RR

My company is moving to our web services Verio which uses FreeBSD on their
servers. They do not provide a GUI for securing directories from
unauthorized access (htaccess). Is there a GUI application that you
recommend or that is preferred by the FreeBSD community?

Any help or advice would be appreciated. Out previous web hosting company
provided one and I'm lost without it.

Best regards,

Chris


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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:28:03PM -0500, JJB wrote:
  Right at the beginning of sysinstall should be warning  about what
  to set PC bios options to, like plugNplay off, power management off,
  boot time virus check disabled, PCI irq assignments set to auto, OS
  type set to non-windows, ect. Give then option to cancel sysinstall
  to set bios.
 
 Or, alternatively, we could just put a URL to the documentation...

That works if it can read locally, can sysinstall handle html?
If it must go out to the net, can it do that?Probably not at
that stage.   Many of us can not afford to have an extra machine around 
to read online documentation while doing an install.  The install is
on the only machine we have.   Of course, I know some of you are flush
with extra HW just setting around just waiting to do some browsing, but
I for one, find food and even housing to be important expenses that
need to be covered.

jerry

 
 -lewiz.
 
 --=20
 I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.  --Bob Dylan, 1964.
 
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Re: A question on installing printer

2004-03-08 Thread Stephen Liu
- snip -
  According to handbook I should run
 
  # ./MAKEDEV lpt0 (para port)
 
  whether to be replaced with
 
  # ./devfs -m lpt0

 No, devfs should recognize the device on its own, without your having
 to do anything.  Is there a /dev/lpt0 already?

 Also, see man devfs.

Hi Lowell,

Tks for your response.

FreeBSD 5.2
HP Deskjet 690C
=

I performed following test;

# dmesg
...
Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
ppbus0: HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 690C MLC,PCL,PML
plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
...
 
# ls -l /dev/lpt0
crw--- 1 root wheel 16, 0 Mar 9 01:17 /dev/lpt0
 
# lptcontrol -i -d /dev/lpt0
# lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0
both without printout
 
# lptest  /dev/lpt0
 
One line printed on 1st page as follow;

!#$%'()*
+,-./0123456789:;=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
It seemed OK but paper feed-in continued with 'no_paper' light on (I put only 
1 paper in the tray)
 
B.R.
Stephen

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Re: GUI for user authentication

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Cookski - RR wrote:

My company is moving to our web services Verio which uses FreeBSD on their
servers. They do not provide a GUI for securing directories from
unauthorized access (htaccess). Is there a GUI application that you
recommend or that is preferred by the FreeBSD community?
Any help or advice would be appreciated. Out previous web hosting company
provided one and I'm lost without it.
Best regards,

Chris

 

If I understand correctly, you want a
remote front-end to console-level
operations (e.g., chmod(1)) on a webserver?
Hmm, I always wonder about the security of this,
but I think that Webmin (/usr/ports/sysutils/webmin;
www.webmin.com) might be something you
could use.
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: GUI for user authentication

2004-03-08 Thread Robert Barten
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 09:51:40AM -0500, Cookski - RR wrote:
 
 My company is moving to our web services Verio which uses FreeBSD on their
 servers. They do not provide a GUI for securing directories from
 unauthorized access (htaccess). Is there a GUI application that you
 recommend or that is preferred by the FreeBSD community?
 
 Any help or advice would be appreciated. Out previous web hosting company
 provided one and I'm lost without it.

PHPAccess:
http://www.krizleebear.de/phpaccess/dynamisch/index.php?pageID=5

http://www.google.com/search?q=htaccess%20gui ... Not to mention the
relation of htaccess and FreeBSD.
-- 
Robert Barten
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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Well I do have  specific comments about some aspects that needs to
 be improved?
 
 Right at the beginning of sysinstall should be warning  about what
 to set PC bios options to, like plugNplay off, power management off,
 boot time virus check disabled, PCI irq assignments set to auto, OS
 type set to non-windows, ect. Give then option to cancel sysinstall
 to set bios.

This is a good idea.   Go ahead and submit an update for it.

 That should be followed with option  for standard basic install
 using whole hard drive from cdrom, and no questions from that point
 on. Behinds the scenes, fdisk deletes all hard drive partitions,
 disklable uses auto config, skip config is taken, distro of kernel
 source, no x-server, and no to all other questions, except set root
 password and timezone.


Ehhh.Maybe as only one last option.

 Then for the original way, for each option question, give info about
 what this option enables and why one would enable it.

I think all documentation should include more 'why' and 'why not' 
discussion.So, sure.   Go ahead and write it all up and submit
the update.Try to be systematic in your writing style though 
and make sure it does not reflect personal prejudices about particular
software and styles of system use, etc.  The below paragraph is a
start, but is a little ragged and would need some work before including
it in an update submission, for example.

jerry

 Example
 
 enable NFS server (yes / NO)   NFS stands for (Network File server)
 An advanced function where by this system you are installing will
 have an (Local Area Network) behind it and you want this system to
 share It's disk space with the other FBSD PC's on the lan. Answering
 yes will start the NFS server on this system and all the FBSD pc on
 the Lan must have the NFS client running to access and share the NFS
 servers disk space. Will not work with MS/windows PC on the Lan. Can
 be enabled later by rc.conf statements. Only answer yes if you know
 for certain you are going to use this function in the immediate
 future.
 
 This kind of pointed detailed information embedded into each
 question installer is asked to respond to, provides the installer
 with  the info necessary to make an informed chose right there in
 front of them where it belongs and not off in some un-accessible
 handbook.
 
 That is what I see is missing from the sysinstall process and why it
 is so user unfriendly to all but experienced FBSD users.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Johnson
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Donald Turnbull
 Subject: Re: Installation - More user friendly
 
 On Sunday 07 March 2004 02:49 pm, Donald Turnbull Donald Turnbull
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does the folks of FreeBSD has any plans to make installation more
  user friendly for the newbie or the non-tech minded user for
 example
  like Red Hat or Mandrake Linux installation? The point for
 technology
  is to make people lives easier right?
 
 
 It seems pretty friendly to me.  It really helps to read the
 directions
 first, though.
 
 By user friendly do you mean pretty, or do you have a specific
 complaint about some aspect that needs to be improved?  Which
 SPECIFIC
 part of the install should be changed, and how should it be changed?
 
 - Bob
 
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RE: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread JJB
WD
My web spider robot found this web site which is not on any of the
search engines yet.
www.a1poweruser.com
Looks like it offers what you want in the way of user-friendly
step-by-step instructions to installing FBSD.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of W. D.
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Installation - More user friendly

At 22:28 3/7/2004, JJB, wrote:
Well I do have  specific comments about some aspects that needs to
be improved?

Right at the beginning of sysinstall should be warning  about what
to set PC bios options to, like plugNplay off, power management
off,
boot time virus check disabled, PCI irq assignments set to auto, OS
type set to non-windows, ect. Give then option to cancel sysinstall
to set bios.

That should be followed with option  for standard basic install
using whole hard drive from cdrom, and no questions from that point
on. Behinds the scenes, fdisk deletes all hard drive partitions,
disklable uses auto config, skip config is taken, distro of kernel
source, no x-server, and no to all other questions, except set root
password and timezone.

Then for the original way, for each option question, give info
about
what this option enables and why one would enable it.
Example

enable NFS server (yes / NO)   NFS stands for (Network File server)
An advanced function where by this system you are installing will
have an (Local Area Network) behind it and you want this system to
share It's disk space with the other FBSD PC's on the lan.
Answering
yes will start the NFS server on this system and all the FBSD pc on
the Lan must have the NFS client running to access and share the
NFS
servers disk space. Will not work with MS/windows PC on the Lan.
Can
be enabled later by rc.conf statements. Only answer yes if you know
for certain you are going to use this function in the immediate
future.

This kind of pointed detailed information embedded into each
question installer is asked to respond to, provides the installer
with  the info necessary to make an informed chose right there in
front of them where it belongs and not off in some un-accessible
handbook.

That is what I see is missing from the sysinstall process and why
it
is so user unfriendly to all but experienced FBSD users.

Man!  This would be great!  I am trying to convert from the evil
Windows world, and online comments like this would be great.

If we really want to make FreeBSD more popular, we should make it
easy for people to change from Windows and/or Linux, right?

Start Here to Find It Fast!(tm) -
http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/

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S/KEY ftp logins

2004-03-08 Thread Cliff Addy
Is there some way to tell if ftp logins are successfully using S/KEY or
falling back to cleartext?  Is there some way to require S/KEY only?

Cliff


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BSD Question

2004-03-08 Thread Tosin A. Atolagbe
Hi,
 
My name is Tosin and I just have three questions regarding the FreeBSD operating 
system?
 
I intend on starting a business in the summer and I plan on using a secure operating 
system (definitely not MS Windows). 
 
1.  Is FreeBSD useful for a desktop environment for people to use in a workplace, 
(e.g. secretary, accountant, and manager) ?
 
2.  Is FreeBSD completely free to download and use for commercial use? If so, are 
there licensing issues to worry about?
 
3.  Is FreeBSD a 64bit operating system, because I may also think of having a lot of 
the projects on a server for accessing from other computers or even at home?
 
Thank you.
 
- Tosin A. Atolagbe, MPH


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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Mark Frank
* On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 10:17:00AM -0500 JJB wrote:
 WD
 My web spider robot found this web site which is not on any of the
 search engines yet.
 www.a1poweruser.com
 Looks like it offers what you want in the way of user-friendly
 step-by-step instructions to installing FBSD.

Hey JJB, fbsd_user, Barbish or whoever you are this week,

You had to use a web spider to find your OWN (pay for use  written
using MS FrontPage) web site?

$ whois a1poweruser.com 

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Cdrecord -scanbus problem...

2004-03-08 Thread Schroeder, AJ
Hello all,

I just recently upgraded my system to 5.2-RELEASE, as evidenced by uname -a:

FreeBSD mephisto.qg.com 5.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 27
16:05:26 CST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MEPHISTO
i386

I was able to burn CDs in my previous installation, but now I am getting
nothing but trouble with cdrecord whenever I try to execute it, so I decided
to try scanning the bus, and here is my output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 2.00.3 (i386-unknown-freebsd5.2) Copyright (C) 1995-2002
J\x{}rg Schilling
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are
root.
cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#

I looked in /dev and I saw all the devices defined that I needed, like: 

crw-r-   1 root  operator4,  18 Jan 27 16:58 acd0
crw-r-   1 root  operator4,  19 Jan 27 16:58 acd1

Cdrecord is installed along with xcdroast and other gui front-end apps, all
of them fail. Both of the drives are good because I can mount CDs in them. I
am also attaching a copy of my /var/run/dmesg.boot and a copy of my kernel
config in case I did something wrong there.

Any help on this matter would be appreciated greatly, also, please cc me, I
am not a part of this list.

Thanks,

AJ Schroeder





dmesg.boot
Description: Binary data


MEPHISTO
Description: Binary data
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Re: Cdrecord -scanbus problem...

2004-03-08 Thread Eric Pogroski
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:49:04 -0600
Schroeder, AJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I just recently upgraded my system to 5.2-RELEASE, as evidenced by uname -a:
 
 FreeBSD mephisto.qg.com 5.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 27
 16:05:26 CST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MEPHISTO
 i386
 
 I was able to burn CDs in my previous installation, but now I am getting
 nothing but trouble with cdrecord whenever I try to execute it, so I decided
 to try scanning the bus, and here is my output:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cdrecord -scanbus
 Cdrecord 2.00.3 (i386-unknown-freebsd5.2) Copyright (C) 1995-2002
 J\x{}rg Schilling
 cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
 cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are
 root.
 cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
 
 I looked in /dev and I saw all the devices defined that I needed, like: 
 
 crw-r-   1 root  operator4,  18 Jan 27 16:58 acd0
 crw-r-   1 root  operator4,  19 Jan 27 16:58 acd1
 
 Cdrecord is installed along with xcdroast and other gui front-end apps, all
 of them fail. Both of the drives are good because I can mount CDs in them. I
 am also attaching a copy of my /var/run/dmesg.boot and a copy of my kernel
 config in case I did something wrong there.
 
 Any help on this matter would be appreciated greatly, also, please cc me, I
 am not a part of this list.
 
 Thanks,
 
 AJ Schroeder
 
su to root then use cdrecord scanbus
or
add yourself to the wheel group, then do 'sudo cdrecord scanbus' 
or
(most unsecure option) su to root, chmod +s /usr/local/bin/cdrecord,
exit root, cdrecord is now usable by 'regular' user's.

Eric
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RE: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread JJB
Need more info about what you mean by write it up and submit it.

Who or where do I submit it?

By  write it up you mean, write the short text  for each sysinstall
option.

How about reorganizing the sysinstall process. Like moving all the
non critical install options from the main process stream to the
post install category?

I looked in the /stand directory and it contains binaries. Where is
the source for the sysinstall process,  maybe I can just change it
at it's source?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry
McAllister
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Donald Turnbull; Bob Johnson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installation - More user friendly


 Well I do have  specific comments about some aspects that needs to
 be improved?

 Right at the beginning of sysinstall should be warning  about what
 to set PC bios options to, like plugNplay off, power management
off,
 boot time virus check disabled, PCI irq assignments set to auto,
OS
 type set to non-windows, ect. Give then option to cancel
sysinstall
 to set bios.

This is a good idea.   Go ahead and submit an update for it.

 That should be followed with option  for standard basic install
 using whole hard drive from cdrom, and no questions from that
point
 on. Behinds the scenes, fdisk deletes all hard drive partitions,
 disklable uses auto config, skip config is taken, distro of kernel
 source, no x-server, and no to all other questions, except set
root
 password and timezone.


Ehhh.Maybe as only one last option.

 Then for the original way, for each option question, give info
about
 what this option enables and why one would enable it.

I think all documentation should include more 'why' and 'why not'
discussion.So, sure.   Go ahead and write it all up and submit
the update.Try to be systematic in your writing style though
and make sure it does not reflect personal prejudices about
particular
software and styles of system use, etc.  The below paragraph is a
start, but is a little ragged and would need some work before
including
it in an update submission, for example.

jerry

 Example

 enable NFS server (yes / NO)   NFS stands for (Network File
server)
 An advanced function where by this system you are installing will
 have an (Local Area Network) behind it and you want this system to
 share It's disk space with the other FBSD PC's on the lan.
Answering
 yes will start the NFS server on this system and all the FBSD pc
on
 the Lan must have the NFS client running to access and share the
NFS
 servers disk space. Will not work with MS/windows PC on the Lan.
Can
 be enabled later by rc.conf statements. Only answer yes if you
know
 for certain you are going to use this function in the immediate
 future.

 This kind of pointed detailed information embedded into each
 question installer is asked to respond to, provides the installer
 with  the info necessary to make an informed chose right there in
 front of them where it belongs and not off in some un-accessible
 handbook.

 That is what I see is missing from the sysinstall process and why
it
 is so user unfriendly to all but experienced FBSD users.







 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob
Johnson
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Donald Turnbull
 Subject: Re: Installation - More user friendly

 On Sunday 07 March 2004 02:49 pm, Donald Turnbull Donald Turnbull
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does the folks of FreeBSD has any plans to make installation
more
  user friendly for the newbie or the non-tech minded user for
 example
  like Red Hat or Mandrake Linux installation? The point for
 technology
  is to make people lives easier right?
 

 It seems pretty friendly to me.  It really helps to read the
 directions
 first, though.

 By user friendly do you mean pretty, or do you have a specific
 complaint about some aspect that needs to be improved?  Which
 SPECIFIC
 part of the install should be changed, and how should it be
changed?

 - Bob

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Re: MAKEDEV question

2004-03-08 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:59, Stephen Liu wrote:
 - snip -

   I skipped following steps
  
   1)
   # ./MAKEDEV port
  
   and
   2)
   # lptcontrol -i -d /dev/lpt0
   (to set interrupt-driven mode for lpt0)
  
   and
   3)
   # lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0
   (to set polled-mode for lptN)
  
  
   Jumped to;
   # lptest  /dev/lpt0
   only strange symbols printed and printing continued without stop until
   I removed the paper tray.  Communication between printer and port
   seemed working
 
  It could be that your printer does not understand plain ascii text. What
  is the make and model.
 
  The other possibility is that there is something wrong in the
  communications path -- a dud or incorrectly wired cable.

 Hi Malcolm,

 FreeBSD 5.2
 Printer HP Desktop 690c
 ===

 Thanks for your response.

 I missed steps 2) and 3) mentioned above.  I performed further test as
 follows;

 step-2
 # lptcontrol -i -d /dev/lpt0

 step-3
 # lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0

 both without printout

 rebooted PC because having got printer turned on. The later could not be
 detected with 'dmesg'

 ** how can I detect the printer to avoid 'reboot' ??

 After reboot
 # dmesg
 Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
 ppbus0: HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 690C MLC,PCL,PML
 plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
 lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
 ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0

 # ls -l /dev/lpt0
 crw--- 1 root wheel 16, 0 Mar 9 01:17 /dev/lpt0

 Repeated step-2 and step-3 above
 (also no printout)

 # lptest  /dev/lpt0

 One line printed on 1st paper as follow;
 !#$%'()*
 +,-./0123456789:;=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It seemed OK but feed-in paper continued with 'no_paper' light on (I put
 only 1 paper in the tray)

If you just run the utility lptest without redirecting the output you will see on the
screen what you should expect to print.

Do you get one printed line or a full page?
One line implies that 2nd and subsequent lines have disappeared of to the right
as BSD does not supply a CR, only LF, at end of line. You may find a you can set
up your printer to interpret LF as CR-LF.

As for running out of paper -- lptest produces 200 lines -- and even if these have
disappeared off the right then they need about 3 pages of A4.

I gather you have not yet got as far as setting up /etc/printcap or starting the print
daemon lpd.
Once you do this you can insert setup codes via an input filter ahead of the data 
to be printed and most printers including many HP models have a code which 
switches the interpretation of the LF character.

Malcolm
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binding ips to accounts

2004-03-08 Thread HypoMaster
hi ya,

recently ive had a problems with people binding to ips that are not issued then, has 
any one written a script where i can the server reads for example /etc/ip.conf before 
binding any user files, and in /etc/ip.conf ude have eg ricky:66.66.66.21 and ricky 
can only bind to that or vhost:66.66.66.1 every one cause use as a vhost only but wont 
allow any think to bind to it,

Cheers

Ricky
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E-Mail Gateway

2004-03-08 Thread Wright, Greg
I would like to use FreeBSD (4.9) as the platform on which to run an
secure e-mail gateway.  At least that is what I think I would like to
do.  The reason for FreeBSD is that I much more familiar with it than
other free Unix like operating systems.  I have worked with DEC
Ultrix, Digital Unix and AIX in the past so have some knowledge of Unix.


But the real goal is to put some sort of secure mail server/forwarder
between my internal MS Exchange system and the Internet.  I don't want
to connect Exchange directly to the Internet if at all possible.

What I'm looking for are recommendations for free SMTP servers that I
can use for this purpose.  I would like to include basic anti-virus and
SPAM control as well.  Unfortunately, I have no money (other than my
time) to do this project so am looking at minimal cost products.

Any suggestions for e-mail gateways.  I've looked at postfix and qmail
but am not sure that they are appropriate.  I could use the built in
sendmail, but worry about security.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Greg Wright
BC Rail

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Re: Boot time, init? getty repeated too many times

2004-03-08 Thread Peter Leftwich
Ryan Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter Leftwich wrote:
 [snip] getty repeated too many times and that it will halt for 30
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 H, Review your #/etc/ttys and comment out any questionable lines.
 -Ryan Merrick / [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was able to get at my raw data (via mount -t ufs /dev/ad0s2a
fbsd) by booting up into a CD-R I burned of FreeSBIE
(www.FreeSBIE.org) and will arrange data on the drive nicely, then
reinstall an OS.  Fixing the current FreeBSD install would require
too much knowledge!  FYI.

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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
JJB wrote:

WD
My web spider robot found this web site which is not on any of the
search engines yet.
www.a1poweruser.com
Looks like it offers what you want in the way of user-friendly
step-by-step instructions to installing FBSD.
1) Surreptitiously plugging your own site, is crass, at best.
2) Not telling him you charge for everything there, is devious.
Perhaps you should also tell him that when you respond to posts for 
help, on this list, that you frequently ignore the person's questions 
and instead rant on about the evils of whatever it is they are trying to 
do/use. Perhaps you should tell him that, at least in the area of 
networking, you haven't got a clue about what you are talking about (I 
specifically refer you to the completely inaccurate information you gave 
me regarding, for instance, the generation of fragments.)

Based on the many posts of yours that I've seen, on this list and 
another, I've concluded that you  do know some things and have some 
usefull information to impart, but that your ranting and mis-information 
obscure them to such a degree that you're comments are not worth paying 
much attention too.

	-ste

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RE: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread JJB
Thanks Mark Frank for pointing that out.

Yes I have just put my web site online to sell my
FreeBSD Stable 4.9 Release Install guide.

An Up to date, Step by Step, How-To, Instructional Guide
to Installing FreeBSD from scratch, Specifically written with
background information covering the why and how the different
components are used together to create an home or small enterprise
network for the new-be and inexperienced FreeBSD computer hobbyist.
Not an General reference type of document, but an true learning aid
containing details unique to the stable version
of FreeBSD your installing.

After 30 months of answering the same questions over and over again
on this questions list, It became apparent that some thing must be
wrong
with the current documentation that so many people are having
problems with it.

No matter how many times I read posts from stanch supports of the
sysinstall process and the current documentation, their posts can
not
dispute the statistical facts so apparent in this questions list.
Every thing is reference material for the experienced user and not
written to the knowledge level appropriate to the first time
installer.

So I addressed that problem. It may not be appropriate for you, but
there are many who it is appropriate for.

Those who are interested can check it out at

www.a1poweruser.com





-Original Message-
From: Mark Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:45 AM
To: JJB; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installation - More user friendly

* On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 10:17:00AM -0500 JJB wrote:
 WD
 My web spider robot found this web site which is not on any of the
 search engines yet.
 www.a1poweruser.com
 Looks like it offers what you want in the way of user-friendly
 step-by-step instructions to installing FBSD.

Hey JJB, fbsd_user, Barbish or whoever you are this week,

You had to use a web spider to find your OWN (pay for use  written
using MS FrontPage) web site?

$ whois a1poweruser.com

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Re: Simplifying FreeBSD Installation

2004-03-08 Thread James Gallagher
On 8 Mar 2004, at 22:44, Jerry McAllister wrote:

It might help to have some wizards for network setup, but in the 
FreeBSD
world, the network topologies are many and varied.   So, just doing a
MS predestination trick and creating a wizard that limits you to 
someone's
narrow idea of a network would cause more trouble than just learning 
how
to do it right.   A couple of wizards to do a couple of very basic, no
extras setups for say a dialup and a NIC hookup to an existing and
well functioning lan might be useful, but FreeBSD goes so much beyond 
that
that it leaves the world of wizards far behind.

I like the point you make there. Wizards can't cover all the network 
configurations that some people may want. There is a simple wizard 
which will get you started, did the job for my 
workstation-cum-fileserver. But you're given the tools to do what we 
want. That's the value proposition for FreeBSD, it's meant to be 
configurable. Perhaps at the expense of 'friendliness', but it's never 
friendly at the expense of being open to configuration.

No one is going to move to FreeBSD if all they want is someone to do
everything for them.   That type of person will not be swayed by 
evidence
of a more powerful, better supported, more secure system.   They are
only interested in not doing anything.   Most of them would prefer not
to even have to stick in a CD or DVD if possible.   So, FreeBSD or any
of the other real OSen will not attract them.
I thought that was a bit harsh. Different things for different people 
and I'm sure if  all people could, they would love to prevent their 
computers from doing harm.

You (Gerard) also should consider that there is a vast difference 
between the *BSD culture and the Linux culture, IMHO. There isn't the 
same desire to convert everyone, there's no jumping up and down 
screaming about the GPL etc. etc. The *BSD community wants the best OS 
not the most widely used OS. Being the best takes effort on everyone's 
part. Using a computer should be easy, but a *BSD is intended for a 
massive array of purposes. Many of which are hard, no other way of 
looking at it.

My loose change :)

James

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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Need more info about what you mean by write it up and submit it.
 
 Who or where do I submit it?
 
 By  write it up you mean, write the short text  for each sysinstall
 option.

Since FreeBSD is completely a volunteer project, everyone can contribute.
Make the changes necessary and submit them as updates.
There is information on the FreeBSD web page about contributing 
to the project.  Check out:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing/index.html

Don't feel limited by the what is needed list.

But, be prepared to find people who disagre, often with good cause,
with suggested changes.

 How about reorganizing the sysinstall process. Like moving all the
 non critical install options from the main process stream to the
 post install category?
 
 I looked in the /stand directory and it contains binaries. Where is
 the source for the sysinstall process,  maybe I can just change it
 at it's source?

I haven't looked specifically for /stand/sysinstall , but pretty much 
everything is somewhere under /usr/src - of course, you will have had 
to opt to install source for it to be there.  NOTE, It is not quite as 
simple as one program.  The installation program uses major chunks of 
the OS.  But, the messages it uses mostly come from just a few places.

jerry


 McAllister
 Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:11 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Donald Turnbull; Bob Johnson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Installation - More user friendly
 
 
  Well I do have  specific comments about some aspects that needs to
  be improved?
 
  Right at the beginning of sysinstall should be warning  about what
  to set PC bios options to, like plugNplay off, power management
 off,
  boot time virus check disabled, PCI irq assignments set to auto,
 OS
  type set to non-windows, ect. Give then option to cancel
 sysinstall
  to set bios.
 
 This is a good idea.   Go ahead and submit an update for it.
 
  That should be followed with option  for standard basic install
  using whole hard drive from cdrom, and no questions from that
 point
  on. Behinds the scenes, fdisk deletes all hard drive partitions,
  disklable uses auto config, skip config is taken, distro of kernel
  source, no x-server, and no to all other questions, except set
 root
  password and timezone.
 
 
 Ehhh.Maybe as only one last option.
 
  Then for the original way, for each option question, give info
 about
  what this option enables and why one would enable it.
 
 I think all documentation should include more 'why' and 'why not'
 discussion.So, sure.   Go ahead and write it all up and submit
 the update.Try to be systematic in your writing style though
 and make sure it does not reflect personal prejudices about
 particular
 software and styles of system use, etc.  The below paragraph is a
 start, but is a little ragged and would need some work before
 including
 it in an update submission, for example.
 
 jerry
 
  Example
 
  enable NFS server (yes / NO)   NFS stands for (Network File
 server)
  An advanced function where by this system you are installing will
  have an (Local Area Network) behind it and you want this system to
  share It's disk space with the other FBSD PC's on the lan.
 Answering
  yes will start the NFS server on this system and all the FBSD pc
 on
  the Lan must have the NFS client running to access and share the
 NFS
  servers disk space. Will not work with MS/windows PC on the Lan.
 Can
  be enabled later by rc.conf statements. Only answer yes if you
 know
  for certain you are going to use this function in the immediate
  future.
 
  This kind of pointed detailed information embedded into each
  question installer is asked to respond to, provides the installer
  with  the info necessary to make an informed chose right there in
  front of them where it belongs and not off in some un-accessible
  handbook.
 
  That is what I see is missing from the sysinstall process and why
 it
  is so user unfriendly to all but experienced FBSD users.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob
 Johnson
  Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:22 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Donald Turnbull
  Subject: Re: Installation - More user friendly
 
  On Sunday 07 March 2004 02:49 pm, Donald Turnbull Donald Turnbull
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Does the folks of FreeBSD has any plans to make installation
 more
   user friendly for the newbie or the non-tech minded user for
  example
   like Red Hat or Mandrake Linux installation? The point for
  technology
   is to make people lives easier right?
  
 
  It seems pretty friendly to me.  It really helps to read the
  directions
  first, though.
 
  By user friendly do you mean pretty, or do you have a specific
  complaint about some aspect that needs to be improved?  Which
  SPECIFIC
  part of the install should be changed, and how should it be
 changed?
 
  - Bob
 
  

RE: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread JJB
There's no need to be so down right rude.
I could say the same thing about you.

So keep your un-professional comments to your self.
There is no place on an open list for such behavior.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shaun T.
Erickson
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: W. D.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installation - More user friendly

JJB wrote:

 WD
 My web spider robot found this web site which is not on any of the
 search engines yet.
 www.a1poweruser.com
 Looks like it offers what you want in the way of user-friendly
 step-by-step instructions to installing FBSD.

1) Surreptitiously plugging your own site, is crass, at best.
2) Not telling him you charge for everything there, is devious.

Perhaps you should also tell him that when you respond to posts for
help, on this list, that you frequently ignore the person's
questions
and instead rant on about the evils of whatever it is they are
trying to
do/use. Perhaps you should tell him that, at least in the area of
networking, you haven't got a clue about what you are talking about
(I
specifically refer you to the completely inaccurate information you
gave
me regarding, for instance, the generation of fragments.)

Based on the many posts of yours that I've seen, on this list and
another, I've concluded that you  do know some things and have some
usefull information to impart, but that your ranting and
mis-information
obscure them to such a degree that you're comments are not worth
paying
much attention too.

-ste

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Re: BSD Question

2004-03-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 07:38:39AM -0800, Tosin A. Atolagbe wrote:
 Hi,
  
 My name is Tosin and I just have three questions regarding the FreeBSD operating 
 system?
  
 I intend on starting a business in the summer and I plan on using a secure operating 
 system (definitely not MS Windows). 
  
 1.  Is FreeBSD useful for a desktop environment for people to use in a workplace, 
 (e.g. secretary, accountant, and manager) ?

Basically, yes, but it depends on the abilities of your staff and
their willingness to adapt to what may be a foreign environment for
them.  OpenOffice provides a very good stab at the same sort of
functionality as Microsoft Office: it's usable, but there may be a few
odd corners and rough spots.  Other applications -- like web browsers
-- far outclass the standard Microsoft equivalents.  You'll find that
FreeBSD based systems need someone knowledgeable to build them into a
network-wide structure (ie. setting up LDAP, mail systems, file shares
etc.) -- there aren't any point'n'drool interfaces for setting that
sort of thing up. (One unexpected bonus of that is that you will be
able to build something that precisely matches your needs, instead of
bodging your organization around the closest pre-canned setup you can
afford to buy).
  
 2.  Is FreeBSD completely free to download and use for commercial use? If so, are 
 there licensing issues to worry about?

It's absolutely free in monetary terms, for whatever use you want to
make of it.  No licensing costs for anything under the BSD license.
That license says in essence: Here is the software. Do with it what
you will, just don't claim you wrote it, and don't blame us if you
break it.  Bits of the system, and many 3rd party add-on packages use
the Gnu Public License, which is very similar and usually equally free
of cost, but has extra restrictions that probably won't affect you
limiting the manner in which you may redistribute software. (ie. you
have to provide it under the same license and you must provide source
code).
 
 3.  Is FreeBSD a 64bit operating system, because I may also think of having a lot of 
 the projects on a server for accessing from other computers or even at home?

FreeBSD runs on a number of 64-bit platforms, yes.  Tier 1 platforms
at the moment include: Alpha, AMD64, IA64 and Sparc64 (See
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2.1R/hardware.html) with work on PPC
and MIPS in the pipeline.  However, the best supported, most reliable
system for running FreeBSD on is still the IA32 platform.  The UFS2
filesystems in FreeBSD 5.x are fully 64bit in their internals on all
platforms, and capable of providing terabyte scale filesystems.
FreeBSD also supports the PAE extensions on IA32 machines, meaning
that the OS can make use of more than 4Gb RAM on a 32bit platform.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: E-Mail Gateway

2004-03-08 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Mar 8, 2004, at 11:25 AM, Wright, Greg wrote:

I would like to use FreeBSD (4.9) as the platform on which to run an
secure e-mail gateway.  At least that is what I think I would like to
do.  The reason for FreeBSD is that I much more familiar with it than
other free Unix like operating systems.  I have worked with DEC
Ultrix, Digital Unix and AIX in the past so have some knowledge of 
Unix.

But the real goal is to put some sort of secure mail server/forwarder
between my internal MS Exchange system and the Internet.  I don't want
to connect Exchange directly to the Internet if at all possible.
What I'm looking for are recommendations for free SMTP servers that I
can use for this purpose.  I would like to include basic anti-virus and
SPAM control as well.  Unfortunately, I have no money (other than my
time) to do this project so am looking at minimal cost products.
Any suggestions for e-mail gateways.  I've looked at postfix and qmail
but am not sure that they are appropriate.  I could use the built in
sendmail, but worry about security.
I'm in the middle of this kind of project right now.

Using
postfix-SMTP server
clamav-free antivirus
amavisd-new-plugin daemon that redirects mail to spamassassin and the 
clamd antivirus for checking

Mail comes in, gets checked for viruses, and then checked and scored as 
spam.  Quarantines things that don't pass, forwards everything else to 
our internal Exchange server.  Postfix is a good choice for me; it's a 
drop in replacement for sendmail and tends to be simpler to configure.  
All absolutely free...we only paid for the server hardware to do this.

-Bart

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Update utility

2004-03-08 Thread Ioannis Vranos
Is there any utility in FreeBSD 4.9 to check for possible updates/bug fixes
via internet?






Regards,

Ioannis Vranos


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Re: Update utility

2004-03-08 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Mar 8, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Ioannis Vranos wrote:

Is there any utility in FreeBSD 4.9 to check for possible updates/bug 
fixes
via internet?

I *think* have have kind of a handle on this on the server I just 
installed...

I usually do a cvsup to update the list of the ports tree, then use a 
procedure I picked out of http://www.freebsddiary.org/portupgrade.php 
to update applications with portupgrade.

If anyone else has a method other than this, I'd love to know the 
procedure :-)

This only updates ports.  Updating FreeBSD, I don't know of anything 
other than if you find a security advisory, you have to have the src 
tree and patch that portion and recompile whatever had the 
vulnerability, following the advisory instructions.  I'm thinking that 
since most daemons/applications are from ports, keeping your ports tree 
updated should limit most remote exploits...I would be interested in 
knowing of a way to check whether the installation of the OS is up to 
date, though.

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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Peter Risdon
Shaun T. Erickson wrote:

JJB wrote:

WD
My web spider robot found this web site which is not on any of the
search engines yet.
www.a1poweruser.com
Looks like it offers what you want in the way of user-friendly
step-by-step instructions to installing FBSD.


1) Surreptitiously plugging your own site, is crass, at best.
2) Not telling him you charge for everything there, is devious.
Yet another 2c' worth...

If anyone writes any documentation for FreeBSD, an operating system they 
got for free and learned about for free, partly through reading free 
documentation submitted by others, I'd personally admire their efforts 
more if it was submitted to the handbook. Luckily for us all, some 
people have taken this view already.

The reason FreeBSD does not have graphical tools and wizards for the 
installation (or anything else, really) is that nobody who could has 
felt inclined to write the code for them. That's for some pretty obvious 
reasons. For example, no functional advantage would be gained from 
hundreds of hours of work. A bigger user base comprising more unskilled 
users would not work, even with smart graphical tools, without some kind 
of support infrastructure. Where's that going to come from? A lot of 
people are sick of wrestling with systems that have gui tools that 
either don't work properly or don't work at all (though this has 
improved in recent years), and don't let you beneath them so you can fix 
the problem directly.

But there's nothing stopping anyone using the existing code and writing 
some snazzy tools, then selling it as a commercial distribution. It's 
almost worth typing that again for emphasis. A commercial distro would 
be the channel through which support infrastructures could be developed.

The various Linux distros illustrate this. Red Hat, Mandrake and others 
charge money and provide graphical installs. Debian, probably the Linux 
distro closest to FreeBSD in orientation, does neither.

Hardware compatibility aside, it's arguable that the answer to this is 
that if you want a graphical, simple to use version of FreeBSD, then buy 
Apple OS X.

PWR.

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RE: E-Mail Gateway

2004-03-08 Thread Wright, Greg
Bart, thanks for the reply !!

I had been looking at qmail with clam and spamassassin, but somebody
told me that qmail might not be appropriate as a secure mail gateway.
It was not designed to route mail, but instead to act as just a mail
server for local mailboxes.

I'll take another look at postfix.

Thanks again.

Greg Wright
BC Rail
Vancouver, Canada

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On Mar 8, 2004, at 11:25 AM, Wright, Greg wrote:

 I would like to use FreeBSD (4.9) as the platform on which to run an
 secure e-mail gateway.  At least that is what I think I would like to
 do.  The reason for FreeBSD is that I much more familiar with it than
 other free Unix like operating systems.  I have worked with DEC
 Ultrix, Digital Unix and AIX in the past so have some knowledge of
 Unix.


 But the real goal is to put some sort of secure mail server/forwarder
 between my internal MS Exchange system and the Internet.  I don't want

 to connect Exchange directly to the Internet if at all possible.

 What I'm looking for are recommendations for free SMTP servers that
 I can use for this purpose.  I would like to include basic anti-virus
 and SPAM control as well.  Unfortunately, I have no money (other than
 my
 time) to do this project so am looking at minimal cost products.

 Any suggestions for e-mail gateways.  I've looked at postfix and qmail

 but am not sure that they are appropriate.  I could use the built in
 sendmail, but worry about security.

I'm in the middle of this kind of project right now.

Using
postfix-SMTP server
clamav-free antivirus
amavisd-new-plugin daemon that redirects mail to spamassassin and the
clamd antivirus for checking

Mail comes in, gets checked for viruses, and then checked and scored as
spam.  Quarantines things that don't pass, forwards everything else to
our internal Exchange server.  Postfix is a good choice for me; it's a
drop in replacement for sendmail and tends to be simpler to configure.
All absolutely free...we only paid for the server hardware to do this.

-Bart


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Fetchmail + Postfix + Amavisd-new

2004-03-08 Thread Robert Golovniov
Hello,

  After doing  some research, I still  cannot  figure  out how to have
  fetchmail feed messages to postfix (running anti-virus and anti-spam
  filters  through  amavisd-new),  which,  in  turn,  would feed it to
  procmail for the local delivery. Could anybody help me with that?

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Handling mail on a dialup connection

2004-03-08 Thread Robert Golovniov
Hello,

  I  would  like to create an hourly cron to have the machine bring up
  the dialup connection, check for the new mail (with fetchmail), send
  any  outgoing  messages (with postfix) and then bring the connection
  down.

  To  make  things  more  complicated, I would like to use this dialup
  session  to  automatically  update  my  virus  databases for clamav,
  f-prot, and Panda AV.

  I  think  I  could  figure out how to set each of these processes in
  cron,  but  I am not sure how to tell the script that it should wait
  for  one  process  to  finish before it starts performing the second
  task. What is the best place to look for more information on that?

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Re: Fetchmail + Postfix + Amavisd-new

2004-03-08 Thread Peter Risdon
Robert Golovniov wrote:

Hello,

 After doing  some research, I still  cannot  figure  out how to have
 fetchmail feed messages to postfix (running anti-virus and anti-spam
 filters  through  amavisd-new),  which,  in  turn,  would feed it to
 procmail for the local delivery. Could anybody help me with that?
 

If you already have a .fetchmailrc file, please copy it here and perhaps 
say slightly more specifically what the problem is. If not, you need 
one. But to help write it I'd need to know a little bit about what 
you're trying to do. Is fetchmail to collect from one or more specific 
mailboxes and deliver to corresponding users, or from a single mailbox 
and deliver to multiple users, or...?

PWR

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Re: Running Linux binaries

2004-03-08 Thread Sergey 'DoubleF' Zaharchenko
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:26:53 +0300
Dmitry [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably wrote:

 It looks like it need libglut.so.3. I have it. I copy it from
 /usr/X11R6/lib to /compat/linux/lib and try to run the binary again:

Almost definitely a wrong way to go...

 Is there any way to use FreeBSD libraries to run Linux binaries or
 I have to get the Linux versions of them?

$ pkg_which /usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so
Mesa-3.4.2_2

A small search in /usr/ports gets /usr/ports/graphics/linux_mesa3,
which might be what you want. HTH,

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Re: Handling mail on a dialup connection

2004-03-08 Thread Peter Risdon
Robert Golovniov wrote:

Hello,

 I  would  like to create an hourly cron to have the machine bring up
 the dialup connection, check for the new mail (with fetchmail), send
 any  outgoing  messages (with postfix) and then bring the connection
 down.
 To  make  things  more  complicated, I would like to use this dialup
 session  to  automatically  update  my  virus  databases for clamav,
 f-prot, and Panda AV.
 I  think  I  could  figure out how to set each of these processes in
 cron,  but  I am not sure how to tell the script that it should wait
 for  one  process  to  finish before it starts performing the second
 task. What is the best place to look for more information on that?
 

I'd write a shell script that did everything, then invoke that script 
with cron.

PWR.

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Alias in different subnet on card

2004-03-08 Thread Wayne Pascoe
Hi all,

I'm running a firewall at the moment using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and IPFW. I
have 3 interfaces in the machine. 

I need to be able to firewall a 4th range of IP's. I have tried to do
this by adding an alias to xl1, but this hasn't worked. If I add the
alias with a mask of 255.255.255.255, no other machine can ping the
alias. I also see the following in /var/log/messages
Mar  8 18:02:13 styx-tmp kernel: arplookup 19x.xxx.xxx.196 failed: host
is not on local network

The primary IP on xl 1 is currently 19x.xxx.xxx.1 and the mask on there is
255.255.255.128 (/25)

If I add the alias with a mask of 255.255.255.240 (/28) which is the
correct mask for this subnet, and the mask that all other machines use,
then I am able to ping this address. However, at this point, no
forwarding appears to take place for machines using this IP address as
their default route.

Is there any way to use an alias to do firewalling like this or do I
have to get another network card? The problem with another network card
is that will mean a whole new machine as I'm out of slots in this one.

Thanks in advance ?

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tcpflow and lo0

2004-03-08 Thread Ksenia Marasanova
Hi list,

Just want to make sure this is not a FreeBSD issue:
Is anyone using tcpflow to sniff packets on loopback interface? When I 
try

# tcpflow -c -v -i lo0
(-v to get all possible debug messages)
and then ping localhost for example, I always get:

tcpflow[31634]: warning: received non-AF_INET null frame (type 33554432)

I am using FreeBSD -stable.

Thanx
Ksenia.
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Re: binding ips to accounts

2004-03-08 Thread Andrew Boothman
HypoMaster wrote:
hi ya,

recently ive had a problems with people binding to ips that are not issued then, has any one written a script where i can the server reads for example /etc/ip.conf before binding any user files, and in /etc/ip.conf ude have eg ricky:66.66.66.21 and ricky can only bind to that or vhost:66.66.66.1 every one cause use as a vhost only but wont allow any think to bind to it,
It sounds like you might want to create a jail for each of your users.

Have a look at http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/papers/jail/jail.html and 
jail(8).

Cheers.

Andrew
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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 8, 2004, at 10:17 AM, JJB wrote:
My web spider robot found this web site which is not on any of the
search engines yet.
www.a1poweruser.com
Looks like it offers what you want in the way of user-friendly
step-by-step instructions to installing FBSD.
Please do not astroturf the FreeBSD mailing lists.

By endorsing your own commercial site as if you had no connection with 
it, you are violating 15 U.S.C. 52, see 
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/guides/endorse:

§255.5 Disclosure of material connections.

When there exists a connection between the endorser and the seller of 
the advertised product which might materially affect the weight or 
credibility of the endorsement (i.e.,  the connection is not reasonably 
expected by the audience) such connection must be fully disclosed. [ 
... ]

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Re: Update utility

2004-03-08 Thread Simon Barner
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
 On Mar 8, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Ioannis Vranos wrote:
 Is there any utility in FreeBSD 4.9 to check for possible updates/bug 
 fixes
 via internet?
 
 
 I *think* have have kind of a handle on this on the server I just 
 installed...
 
 I usually do a cvsup to update the list of the ports tree, then use a 
 procedure I picked out of http://www.freebsddiary.org/portupgrade.php 
 to update applications with portupgrade.
 
 If anyone else has a method other than this, I'd love to know the 
 procedure :-)

For third party applications, portupgrade should be the tool of
choice...

 This only updates ports.  Updating FreeBSD, I don't know of anything 
 other than if you find a security advisory, you have to have the src 
 tree and patch that portion and recompile whatever had the 
 vulnerability, following the advisory instructions.  I'm thinking that 
 since most daemons/applications are from ports, keeping your ports tree 
 updated should limit most remote exploits...I would be interested in 
 knowing of a way to check whether the installation of the OS is up to 
 date, though.

This is what the so-called security branches are good for: Just CVSup
your source tree, do a full buildworld cycle, and you should be fine.

Valid security branches (for use in your supfile) are for example RELENG_4_9
or RELENG_5_2.

If you prefer binary updates, there is a special port
(security/freebsd-update), but it will only work on an unaltered
installation (i.e. you did not do any buildworlds), and of course, you
can run the freebsd-update port incrementally.

However, once you use a source based update method, the port will not work
any longer, since your installation will consist of custom binaries that do
not match the recorded checksums.

Simon


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Re: E-Mail Gateway

2004-03-08 Thread Andrew Boothman
Wright, Greg wrote:
But the real goal is to put some sort of secure mail server/forwarder
between my internal MS Exchange system and the Internet.  I don't want
to connect Exchange directly to the Internet if at all possible.
What I'm looking for are recommendations for free SMTP servers that I
can use for this purpose.  I would like to include basic anti-virus and
SPAM control as well.  Unfortunately, I have no money (other than my
time) to do this project so am looking at minimal cost products.
Any suggestions for e-mail gateways.  I've looked at postfix and qmail
but am not sure that they are appropriate.  I could use the built in
sendmail, but worry about security.
I'm sure either qmail or postfix are perfectly capable of doing what you 
want - indeed there are many posts about this very subject to the 
postfix mailing list. I'd suggest looking back through the postfix-users 
archive to read what has been said in the past.

In particular you'll want to consider how to let postifx know what 
addresses @yourdomain are valid, so that it only accepts emails that are 
being sent to valid users. An example of how to do this can be found on 
http://www.plusone.com/gaptuning/postfix/

I looked at both postfix and qmail for dealing with email for my own 
small email server, and much prefered postfix.

Oh and, insert standard comment about how you should just replace 
Exchange with Postfix anyway

;)

Andrew
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RE: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread JJB
Now just where does what you quote say anybody is endorsing
anything.
It's just an pointer to something that may meet the needs of the
poster.
Just like what happens hundreds of times every day in this list.

Please drop your un-professional attack and take it offline, it does
not belong here.

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Subject: Re: Installation - More user friendly

On Mar 8, 2004, at 10:17 AM, JJB wrote:
 My web spider robot found this web site which is not on any of the
 search engines yet.
 www.a1poweruser.com
 Looks like it offers what you want in the way of user-friendly
 step-by-step instructions to installing FBSD.

Please do not astroturf the FreeBSD mailing lists.

By endorsing your own commercial site as if you had no connection
with
it, you are violating 15 U.S.C. 52, see
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/guides/endorse:

§255.5 Disclosure of material connections.

When there exists a connection between the endorser and the seller
of
the advertised product which might materially affect the weight or
credibility of the endorsement (i.e.,  the connection is not
reasonably
expected by the audience) such connection must be fully disclosed. [
... ]

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DHCP issue with comcast.

2004-03-08 Thread Richard Uhlman
Hello,

I am new to using FreeBSD, and I am trying to use a FreeBSD box as a
firewall/router.  I am trying to get the router working correctly first.
My issue is that my box will not receive an IP address from Comcast when
the dhclient starts.  I commented out all of the firewall commands in my
rc.conf file, but left the ifconfig_ep0=DHCP.  The machine is running
2 NIC's and I have verified that the correct one has the cable plugged
into it.  I am running release 5.2.1.

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Re: Java installation: pdmu not found

2004-03-08 Thread Sven Hohage
Thanks!!
I'll try it as soon as possible.
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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Chris
On Monday 08 March 2004 12:26 pm, JJB wrote:
 Now just where does what you quote say anybody is endorsing
 anything.
 It's just an pointer to something that may meet the needs of the
 poster.
 Just like what happens hundreds of times every day in this list.

 Please drop your un-professional attack and take it offline, it does
 not belong here.


What I find amusing about this, is there is a Copywrite on this?!?! 
I have been under the impression (as I checked into this a number of years 
back) You can't Copywrite public domain material.

I also don't see any credits listed pertaining to the name FreeBSD, it's 
handbook or anything relating to BSD, it's images, and most importantly - 
posting the written permission to use Beastie (and I might add, I think it 
must be done in a not-for-profit mannor) from Kirk McKusick 
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Just my .02 

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hacked

2004-03-08 Thread re re
hello
despite having ipfilter blocking all ports except 80 21 and 22, tripwire, and scoring 
99 in nmap, my website got defaced.
the box is currently unplugged.  i wanted to know what is the best way to find out who 
did it and how they got in, and what to do from here.  tripwire shows a lot of files 
changed, most of which could be attributed to cvsup'ing recently.  any other security 
precautions to take disaster recovery guides?  i've already changed p/w's on my other 
boxes.
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RE: hacked

2004-03-08 Thread Remko Lodder
you should make a copy of your current harddrive, and lock the otherone in a
safe or something , so that you can always make additional copy's.
This requires a same sized harddisk in a other working system..

But that is propably not what you have,

You should check your webserver logs/ftp logs, for bogus entries
Note that firewalling does not prevent webdefacements, why? Well port
80/20/21
is allowed traffic, so people can get in.

IT might be possible that your ftp server got breached, what version did you
run?
What webserver did you run? with php? Is there even the slightest
possibility that
you had rwx settings on the tree where your webfiles are in, so that one
could have written code to it, or even worse, changing your index file.

I had it myself with a bogus Slashdot topic script, that allowed remote
users
to write into my files, one of my includes was overwritten and i got a
website
your.com, instead of my three tabled layout ... oops, was the script and rwx
permissions in the tree..

Goodluck !!


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hello
despite having ipfilter blocking all ports except 80 21 and 22, tripwire,
and scoring 99 in nmap, my website got defaced.
the box is currently unplugged.  i wanted to know what is the best way to
find out who did it and how they got in, and what to do from here.  tripwire
shows a lot of files changed, most of which could be attributed to cvsup'ing
recently.  any other security precautions to take disaster recovery guides?
i've already changed p/w's on my other boxes.
thanks
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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 8, 2004, at 1:26 PM, JJB wrote:
Now just where does what you quote say anybody is endorsing
anything.  It's just an pointer to something that may meet the needs 
of the
poster.  Just like what happens hundreds of times every day in this 
list.
You've been advised of the law; if don't think the FTC has jurisdiction 
over such comments, go ask your laywer or the people from a company 
named Central Command, based in Ohio, who tried astroturfing 
comp.mail.sendmail about a product of theirs called Vexira MailArmor.

Please drop your un-professional attack and take it offline, it does
not belong here.
What are you talking about?  Please do not astroturf the FreeBSD 
mailing lists constitutes a polite request in response to deceptive 
behavior on your part.  It is not an attack, professional or otherwise.

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Re: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 09:53:15AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
  
  On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:28:03PM -0500, JJB wrote:
   Right at the beginning of sysinstall should be warning  about what
   to set PC bios options to, like plugNplay off, power management
   off, boot time virus check disabled, PCI irq assignments set to
   auto, OS type set to non-windows, ect. Give then option to cancel
   sysinstall to set bios.
  
  Or, alternatively, we could just put a URL to the documentation...
 
 That works if it can read locally, can sysinstall handle html?  If it
 must go out to the net, can it do that?Probably not at that stage.
 Many of us can not afford to have an extra machine around to read
 online documentation while doing an install.  The install is on the
 only machine we have.

I was making the point that few people read the documentation /before/
they pop the CD in the drive.

  If a lot of people (I'm not saying this is you, at all) bothered to do
this it really would save them a lot of hassle.  As for PnP, IRQ
assignments, etc. -- these would /all/ be sorted /before/ the disc was
booted from.

  Your idea is quite nice though -- the Handbook could easily be
converted to plaintext and fired up on a virtual terminal.

-lewiz.

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2004-03-08 Thread Richard Uhlman
Hello,

I am new to using FreeBSD, and I am trying to use a FreeBSD box as a
firewall/router.  I am trying to get the router working correctly first.
My issue is that my box will not receive an IP address from Comcast when
the dhclient starts.  I commented out all of the firewall commands in my
rc.conf file, but left the ifconfig_ep0=DHCP.  The machine is running
2 NIC's and I have verified that the correct one has the cable plugged
into it.  I am running release 5.2.1.

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DHCP issue with comcast (FreeBSD router).

2004-03-08 Thread Richard Uhlman
Hello,
 
I am new to using FreeBSD, and I am trying to use a FreeBSD box as a
firewall/router.  I am trying to get the router working correctly first.
My issue is that my box will not receive an IP address from Comcast when
the dhclient starts.  I commented out all of the firewall commands in my
rc.conf file, but left the ifconfig_ep0=DHCP.  The machine is running
2 NIC's and I have verified that the correct one has the cable plugged
into it.  I am running release 5.2.1.
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Re: hacked

2004-03-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:02:02 +0100

Remko Lodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Please set your date right.

tnx



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Re: hacked

2004-03-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:22:24 +0200
Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:02:02 +0100
 
 Remko Lodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Please set your date right.
 
 tnx

And of course that should have been sent on private. Sorry.



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RE: Installation - More user friendly

2004-03-08 Thread Thompson, Jimi
SNIP
Does the folks of FreeBSD has any plans to make installation more user
friendly for the newbie or the non-tech minded user for example like Red Hat
or Mandrake Linux installation? The point for technology is to make people
lives easier right?
/SNIP

Before the flames start, let me state that I am a HUGE FreeBSD fan.  I use
it at home.  I use it at work.  We are migrating away from RedHat (since
it's no longer open source) to FreeBSD. I also own a Mac with OS X.  

I think that the point here is to coax the average Windows user, who has
an innate fear of the command line, to use FreeBSD.  The problem is that we
can discuss this as a technical issue until Satan hands out snow shoes, but
it won't change the fact that this is a HUMAN issue.  While I agree that an
OS without a GUI is by far TECHNICALLY superior, it is NOT the superior in
the minds of most end users.  It's a terror inducing, awe-striking behemoth.


Most non-technical people like GUI's because they neither want to know nor
should they need to know the gazillion command line entries and options.
That's the kind of thing that makes us the pros at what we do.  PC's
didn't become popular for home use until the advent of the GUI.  Apple,
despite many technical decisions that I can't agree with, are still with us
because of the wonderful user interface.  Windows, all bashing aside, is not
the most desirable operating system for a variety of TECHNICAL reasons, but
it still maintains it market share.  Why?  Because it offers two things 1)
the comfort factor that comes with familiarity and 2) the wizards to
accomplish fairly complex tasks by making selections in a GUI.  This alone
should point out that the user interface is NOT a technical issue.

I think that the ultimate flaw in much of the logic I see here is in
assuming that we, being the programmers, system administrators, hackers,
etc., that we all are on list, know what end users want.  We soo are NOT
the average end user.  I think I can safely say that we left being end users
ourselves behind so long ago that we've forgotten what it's like. Think
about what your Mother (or at least mine :)) would want to use.  Actually
having to go to the command line, when you've been trained by decades of M$
products that this a very bad thing to do, and type stuff in terrifies her.
She's always certain that she's going to make a mistake and blow things up.


2 cents,

Jimi
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Re: Alias in different subnet on card

2004-03-08 Thread Micheal Patterson




- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:02 PM
Subject: Alias in different subnet on card


 Hi all,

 I'm running a firewall at the moment using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and IPFW. I
 have 3 interfaces in the machine.

 I need to be able to firewall a 4th range of IP's. I have tried to do
 this by adding an alias to xl1, but this hasn't worked. If I add the
 alias with a mask of 255.255.255.255, no other machine can ping the
 alias. I also see the following in /var/log/messages
 Mar  8 18:02:13 styx-tmp kernel: arplookup 19x.xxx.xxx.196 failed: host
 is not on local network

 The primary IP on xl 1 is currently 19x.xxx.xxx.1 and the mask on there is
 255.255.255.128 (/25)

 If I add the alias with a mask of 255.255.255.240 (/28) which is the
 correct mask for this subnet, and the mask that all other machines use,
 then I am able to ping this address. However, at this point, no
 forwarding appears to take place for machines using this IP address as
 their default route.

 Is there any way to use an alias to do firewalling like this or do I
 have to get another network card? The problem with another network card
 is that will mean a whole new machine as I'm out of slots in this one.

 Thanks in advance ?

 -- 
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 license used by Linux is like the event
 horizon calling the kettle black - adamba on k5


You have 3 networks in a firewall, and since we don't know the full
topology, I'll use these network ranges for my example: 192.168.1.0,
192.168.2.0, and 192.168.3.0. You now want to add a 4th range, let's say,
192.168.4.0.


ipconfig_xl1=inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.128
ipconfig_xl1_alias0=inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.128
ipconfig_xl1_alias1=inet 192.168.3.1 netmask 255.255.255.128
ipconfig_xl1_alias2=inet 192.168.4.1 netmask 255.255.255.128

The only time you would use a netmask of 255.255.255.255 is if the aliased
IP is a member of a subnet that is already assigned on the interface.

ipconfig_xl1_alias3=inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255

Then you will need to add the appropriate firewall rules to allow those
networks to either talk / no talk to the remaining network segments.

It would help to have all of the ip information that you're using and your
current alias maps to see just what's going on. Although, I'd guess that the
first problem may be a subnetting issue.

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Cisco 350 card with 128-bit WEP?

2004-03-08 Thread Ralph M. Los
Hi all,
Trying to install FreeBSD 5.2.1 onto my laptop. I have a LinkSys
WRT54G wireless gateway, and the Cisco 250 card which should support
802.11b mode into the Linksys (running in mixed mode).  I'm researching
options to get the NIC working...but from the manual page(s) of ifconfig
I've only found this tidbit, which makes me wonder...

A WEP key will be either 5 or 13 characters (40 or 104 bits) depending
of the local net- work and the capabilities of the adaptor.

My LinkSys has the options for 128 bit or 64bit WEP, naturally I went
with 128.  This works great for all my Windows boxes...but how do I get
FreeBSD to light up the card?

Thanks in advance.

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free DB designer

2004-03-08 Thread Kyryll A Mirnenko
  Does anyone know a freeware database designer (e.g. capable to create nice 
ir-models) for at least MySQL? Visual SQL Designer can be a good commercial 
example.

  Bets regards, Kyryll Mirnenko
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parted-like partitions editor for UFS

2004-03-08 Thread Kyryll A Mirnenko
  Is there a Partition Magic (or parted)-like FreeBSD port capable to handle 
UFS (1,2) partitions  FFS slices within it (e.g. moving, resizing  
merging)?

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ppp + routeing question

2004-03-08 Thread stan
I'm trying to build a vpn from home to work using ppp tuneled over ssh.
I'm able to get the ppp link up, and ssh to the IP address of the ppp
session at home, but I must have something wrong in the routeing, as I
can't even telent to it by it's address on the home LAN (the box running
ppp that is).

Here's what I've got.

ppp.conf on home mahcine:

wvpn:
 set timeout 6000
 enable proxy
 set ifaddr 192.168.0.1 192.168.1.1
 add 192.168.1.1/24 HISADDR
 add! XXX.85.0.0 255.255.0.0 192.168.1.1

ppp.conf on work machine (originates link)


wvpn:
 set timeout 6000
 set ifaddr 127.1.1.1/0 127.1.1.2/0
 add 0 0 127.1.1.2
 set dial
 set device !runsocks ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]


And here are the routes at home with this up:


Script started on Mon Mar  8 15:31:20 2004
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED];/home/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/stan
$ netstat -rn
Routing tables

Internet:
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
default205.159.77.234 UGSc   66 5295ed0
127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1  UH  228543lo0
XXX.85 192.168.1.1UGSc03ed0
XXX.85.109/24  192.168.0.1UGSc0   11ed0
192.168.1  192.168.1.1UGSc10ed0
192.168.1.1192.168.0.1UH  1  163   tun1
205.159.77 link#1 UC 100ed0
205.159.77.58  link#1 UHLW13ed0
205.159.77.60  00:50:ba:52:af:24  UHLW1   584094ed0927
205.159.77.224 00:50:ba:52:69:f1  UHLW7 481149818lo0
205.159.77.225 00:20:af:a7:49:5e  UHLW1  2770016ed0137
205.159.77.228 00:50:ba:52:6a:22  UHLW1  7243508ed0   1063
205.159.77.231 00:50:ba:52:ac:0c  UHLW0  8128510ed0   1197
205.159.77.232 00:10:60:c2:c3:b7  UHLW2   102804ed0578
205.159.77.234 00:90:27:a5:7d:ba  UHLW   64  1954368ed0811
205.159.77.237 00:50:ba:52:ac:0d  UHLW1  7457855ed0   1181
205.159.77.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff  UHLWb   110722ed0
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED];/home/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/stan
$ 

Script done on Mon Mar  8 15:31:28 2004

And on the machine at work:


Script started on Mon Mar  8 15:31:41 2004
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED];/home/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/stan
$ netstat -rn
Routing tables

Internet:
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
default170.85.109.1   UGSc6   19ed1
127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1  UH  1  262lo0
XXX.85.109/25  link#3 UC  40ed1
XXX.85.109.1   00:e0:16:75:06:84  UHLW61ed1   1125
XXX.85.109.104 00:e0:98:04:28:0c  UHLW22lo0
XXX.85.109.109 00:60:97:15:e8:da  UHLW0  335ed1811
XXX.85.109.127 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff  UHLWb   2  191ed1
192.168.0.1192.168.1.1UH  1  237   tun0
205.159.77 192.168.1.1UGSc0   20ed1
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED];/home/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/stan
$ 

Script done on Mon Mar  8 15:31:48 2004

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Update Utility

2004-03-08 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Monday, March 08, 2004 1:56:24 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 12:22:09 -0500
|From: Bart Silverstrim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: Update utility
|To: Ioannis Vranos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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|
|
|On Mar 8, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Ioannis Vranos wrote:
|
| Is there any utility in FreeBSD 4.9 to check for possible updates/bug 
| fixes
| via internet?
|
|
|I *think* have have kind of a handle on this on the server I just 
|installed...
|
|I usually do a cvsup to update the list of the ports tree, then use a 
|procedure I picked out of http://www.freebsddiary.org/portupgrade.php 
|to update applications with portupgrade.
|
|If anyone else has a method other than this, I'd love to know the 
|procedure :-)
|
|This only updates ports.  Updating FreeBSD, I don't know of anything 
|other than if you find a security advisory, you have to have the src 
|tree and patch that portion and recompile whatever had the 
|vulnerability, following the advisory instructions.  I'm thinking that 
|since most daemons/applications are from ports, keeping your ports tree 
|updated should limit most remote exploits...I would be interested in 
|knowing of a way to check whether the installation of the OS is up to 
|date, though.


** Reply Separator **
Monday, March 08, 2004 3:24:31 PM

I use what many might consider a rather contorted mix of programs to
update my system.

First, I log in as root. I could use 'sudo' but I have found that at
times portupgrade does not work correctly with it. Even when I add the
'-s' switch. In any case, I run them in the following order as
specified.

1)  cvsup
2)  pkgdb -aFfuv
3)  portsdb -Uu
4)  portupgrade -aDDPrRvy
5)  periodic weekly

I am not sure if this is the absolute correct way to do things; however,
so far I have not experienced any problems doing it this way. You could
skip step five if your system is on 24/7 or at least when the cron job
is scheduled to run.

You might want to throw a 'portsclean -CDDLPP' into the mix also prior
to step five.

I am sure that others will have far better suggestions.

Gerard Seibert
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Re: portsdb issues

2004-03-08 Thread Frank Knobbe
On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 17:00, Shaun T. Erickson wrote:
 I waited a bit, then ran cvsup on the ports, once more, and this time 
 there was more to download, including a new INDEX-5 file. I ran portsdb 
 -Uu once more, and it worked perfectly. I guess my ports tree was out of 
 sync somehow.


Whoa... if that was out of sync, then cvsup2 is _still_ out of sync. I'm
running make describe to find the broken ports. So far I found:

/usr/ports/devel/sparc-rtems-gdb
/usr/ports/databases/namazu2
/usr/ports/net/samba-devel
/usr/ports/www/mozilla-bonobo
/usr/ports/converters/ktextdecode
/usr/ports/devel/kdesdk3
/usr/ports/devel/kdevelop
/usr/ports/devel/linux-glib2
/usr/ports/devel/linux-libglade
/usr/ports/devel/qt-designer
/usr/ports/devel/ruby-gconf2
/usr/ports/devel/ruby-glib2
/usr/ports/devel/ruby-gnomevfs
/usr/ports/devel/ruby-libglade
/usr/ports/devel/ruby-libglade2
/usr/ports/lang/klogoturtle
/usr/ports/ftp/kbear
/usr/ports/mail/kshowmail
/usr/ports/misc/bookcase
/usr/ports/misc/katalog
/usr/ports/misc/kde3-i18n-af

make describe complains on each of them. I have already dumped the ports
tree and cvsup'ed it completely fresh. (First cvsup yesterday afternoon,
last cvsup today around noon.)

Is there something wrong with cvsup2 perhaps?

BTW: All on 4.8-RELEASE-p15 if that matters.

I never had that many issues with the ports in the past. It all started
recently when sparc-rtems-gdb and namazu2 went belly up.

Regards,
Frank




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Re: hacked

2004-03-08 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2004-03-08T18:56:15Z, re re [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 hello despite having ipfilter blocking all ports except 80 21 and 22,
 tripwire, and scoring 99 in nmap, my website got defaced.

Despite locking my door to my house, pulling the curtains, and sitting in a
dark living room with a loaded gun and a Dobermann Pinscher, someone broke
into my office.

Your server is probably relatively secure - congratulations on proactively
defending your system.  However, even the most secure system in the world
can run cruddy applications.  If your website was running PHPNuke or
something from Matt's Script Archive, then don't be surprised if your
website (and possibly other files readable or writeable by the user Apache
runs under) have been altered.  This can be annoying, but doesn't mean that
the rest of your system is 0wn3d.

You mention that you have Tripwire.  Excellent!  The very first step is to
audit that changelog like the life of your server depends on it (hint: it
does).  Personally, if there are more than a handful of changes to /usr/src
or /usr/ports, then I'd nuke those subdirectories and repopulate them from a
trusted backup or another server.  Basically, don't waste hours trying to
decide whether cvsup or a cracker altered /usr/ports/shells/bash2/Makefile
when it's very simple to restore a known-good copy.  Also, get in the habit
of checking and updating your Tripwire database immediately before major
file-updating processes like make update, make installworld, etc.  That
way, you can reduce a vast number of false-positives from the change list so
that this is an easier task next time.

Next, Keep Your Public Services Updated (tm).  Don't run an old version of
Apache or PHPBB if you value your security.  Any skript-kiddie has an
arsenal of web service attacks for popular systems.  Repeat: keep up with
those security patches!

Good luck.  It sounds like you're doing the right things.  Just keep
current, keep your firewall tight, don't run stuff you don't need, and keep
using Tripwire.
-- 
Kirk Strauser

94 outdated ports on the box,
 94 outdated ports.
 Portupgrade one, an hour 'til done,
 82 outdated ports on the box.


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network type console and /etc/ttys

2004-03-08 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
/etc/ttys has a field called type and says that network is an
option, but I can't find that expanded upon in its manpage or in the
Handbook or FAQ.  I've tried googling, but my searches either return a
small list with no relevant info or a huge list that seems to be all
off topic.

The file has network for Pseudo terminals (ttyp#), but that isn't
enough of a clue for me, either.

The basic question is whether and how one can set up a remote (LAN)
terminal, probably using that network type in /etc/ttys (without
using X11).  How does one specify which network port, for example?
It seems like it should be handled very much like setting up a
RS-232-type serial terminal.

The original problem was whether and how one can do that for the
console terminal, to support even single-user mode.

Seems like basic stuff, but I've never seen mention of it before.

Thanks.  (And a guy on a local mailing list who's about to buy a
multiport serial card might thank you too.)
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Why can't I write this file?

2004-03-08 Thread Alex de Kruijff
Hi,

I just changed the permission and ownership of some files and was denied
writting to this file even though I'm in the group and the group has
write permissions. Did I forgot something or is this strange? I thougth
I should be able to write as user akruijff

ls -loa

drwxrwxr-x   2 www   www   -  512 Mar  8 21:57 ./
drwxr-xr-x  16 akruijff  akruijff  - 1024 Mar  6 18:48 ../
-rwxrwxr-x   1 www   www   - 4743 Mar  8 21:52 file.php*
-rwxrwxr-x   1 www   www   - 2431 Mar  8 21:53 functions.php*
-rwxrwxr-x   1 www   www   -  299 Mar  7 00:20 preview.php*


cat /etc/group

www:*:80:akruijff


cat /etc/passwd

akruijff:*:1001:0:Alex de Kruijff:/home/akruijff:/bin/csh



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Articles based on solutions that I use:
http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/
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RE: /root file system full

2004-03-08 Thread Ron Joordens
Yes, Bob you are right.

The real problem was running KDE while logged in as root, not installing
ports. I deleted all the files that KDE placed in / and now everything is
fine.

Once again, thanks

Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 3:24 PM
 To:   Ron Joordens
 Subject:  Re: /root file system full
 
 On Wednesday 03 March 2004 11:55 pm, you wrote:
  Bob,
 
  Thanks for taking the time to answer my query.
 
  My filesystem setup is the default one as suggested during the
  installation. IE. 128mb for /root, 512mb for /swap, 256mb for /var,
  256mb for /tmp and the rest of the 6gb partition (slice) for /usr.
 
 
 A detail: / and /root are not the same thing.  The root partition 
 is /, while /root is a directory named root in that partition.
 
  I currently think as a result of some of the answers I have received,
  that the problem is that I have been logging in as root to install
  ports etc, when I should have been logging in as a user and doing an
  su to root to install. 
 
 I don't believe this is your problem.  It is a good security precaution, 
 but AFAIK, it won't affect where files end up when you install ports. 
 Some of the security issues are: doing routine operations as root 
 creates the risk that a minor typing error will do major damage that an 
 unprivileged user wouldn't be able to do; if an attacker manages to 
 steal your password, hijack a remote login session, or whatever, they 
 still won't have root access (make them work for it); on 
 multi-administrator systems it provides some degree of accountability; 
 it lets you prohibit remote logins by root (the FreeBSD default, by the 
 way); and more that don't come to mind at the moment.
 
  Also running KDE etc while logged in as root 
  may have written KDE files to me / directory. I know, silly boy, but
  to a beginner when the handbook says that ports can only be installed
  while logged in as root then I log in as root. The subtle difference
  between the two is nowhere explained. At least I haven't seen it.
 
 This part is accurate.  Logging in to KDE as root will add some cruft to 
 your / partition.  And KDE always writes stuff into /var/tmp (or /tmp 
 in older versions), regardless of which user invokes it.
 
 
  I shall certainly take note of your advice and have a look at
  deleting any temp and uneccessary files, creating symlinks  and
  making the filesystems larger when I reinstall, as I inevitably will.
  Probably sooner rather than later.
 
  The whole point to this installation was to evaluate and learn Linux
  and BSD OSes. I have started with FreeBSD (in at the deep end -:) and
  will soon try out some of the Linuxes such as Redhat, Slackware,
  Mandrake and Gentoo. I will then choose a couple I like and reinstall
  in a more permanent manner. Thus I will have more space to play with
  later.
 
  So far I really like FreeBSD and plan to stick with it. I'll upgrade
  to 5.2 next install though.
 
  Thanks again,
 
  Ron
 
 Good luck.
 
 - Bob
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Re: Equalizer

2004-03-08 Thread Joshua Lokken
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-10 06:57]:
 
 hi,
 
 i'm running what you might call a minimalist freebsd system for audio 
 playback and i'm currently not running an x server.  do you know of any audio 
 equalizers which i could install without a lot of bulk?  one that can be 
 adjusted from a command line?  i'm running a pcm-enabled kernel and oss on 
 freebsd 4.7.

/usr/ports/audio/umix
I love it!

-- 
Joshua

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