Re: [Audyssey] Public betas vs private testing
Hi David, yes, that sounds like very intensive beta testing and although testing for games can sometimes be difficult, it does not sound as though it reaches quite up to that level. In any case, I usually discuss with the people that test for me whether or not they should get a free copy depending on how much time they are going to spend on it etc. If they are only giving the game a few test runs and giving some spontaneous feedback then they will usually not receive a free copy, though again it depends entirely on how much time and dedication that they put in. I would, however, give a free copy to anyone who tests the software every day for 6 months. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Public betas vs private testing Hello, The business, productivity, and AT programs which I have alpha and beta tested were typically in the multi-hundred to few thousand dollar range. For these products, beta testing has always been quite intensive; usually lasting at least six months and requiring considerable time commitments. In many cases, we use the solution on our business machines to give it real-world challenges. Whenever bugs crop up, we file detailed reports on how to specifically reproduce the bugs. When bugs are intermittent, we dig for them while still using the software normally. In other words, one of the things we do is try to crash the programs and report exactly on how we caused the crashes. I have done this through a private business, while working for a university, and as a private consumer. In all cases, this is what private alpha and beta testing consists of, and the developers always get their money's worth for the software. If we charged, it would cost significantly more for the service (the company which trained me now only alpha and beta tests for large corporations and charges for their services). It was in the late 90's when I worked with them and was taught. I never became as intense as they are, but I always use the principles they taught me. David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi David and Dark, I also think that the final price of the product has an impact on this decision. What you are essentially doing is paying the beta testers for their work, and so let's say that the game will sell for 25 or 30 dollars then that's probably a reasonable amount to give in return for testing which in turn would most certainly warrent a free copy. If, however, the game or product sells for $150 then I would argue that a free copy is too much payment in most cases. If the testers spend a year running the program over and over again then it probably is not, but in most cases I'd say that it is and then a price reduction would be in order instead. In short, one has to decide what one as a developer considers to be a reasonable amount to pay for testing and if this covers the cost of the game, give it out for free and if it does not cover it, give a reduction. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Public betas vs private testing No problem David. Like everything else, it's up to the developer, I was just pointing out that it was not a necessary condition of private testing that the developer has to give away 5 or 10 coppies of the game for free. It does seem reasonable with business software and the like, --- sinse A, the markit can stand it and B, the testing process itself wouldn't necessarily be enjoyable to the tester. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 09:20:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list,
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
Hi Shirley, Cool, I'm glad that you were able to down load some of my games. May I ask, were you able to get them put in the Kitchensinc folder so that the Kitchensinc game menu lists and launches them? BFN Jim Clouds are God's sneezes. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi Jacob, Do you know if the Anna SAPI voice was changed from Vista to Windows 7? Does Windows 7 have any new SAPI voices? thanks, Phil - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 and compatibility Just tested winfrotz TTS on my windows 7 work machine, and it seems alright, along with the new MS Anna voice, so while still haven't figured out how come it won't work on my windows XP machines, no matter what I try, it does seem to work on my windows 7 machine. Stay well Jacob Kruger --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
No idea since never even tried out vista, but it's definitely better than mary, mike or sam, and that's the only voice it seems to have by itsself/by default. I still sometimes prefer using scansoft voices for certain types of content, or espeak voices for some other languages. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:53 PM Subject: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi Jacob, Do you know if the Anna SAPI voice was changed from Vista to Windows 7? Does Windows 7 have any new SAPI voices? thanks, Phil - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 and compatibility Just tested winfrotz TTS on my windows 7 work machine, and it seems alright, along with the new MS Anna voice, so while still haven't figured out how come it won't work on my windows XP machines, no matter what I try, it does seem to work on my windows 7 machine. Stay well Jacob Kruger --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4741 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4741 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi Jacob, I found out that the Anna voice is also part of Microsoft Streets Trips 2010 So anyone with XP can get the Anna voice by buying this program. However I don't know if the program is accessible. And it costs about $37 USD so is more expensive to get just for the voice than those from NextUp.com Phil - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility No idea since never even tried out vista, but it's definitely better than mary, mike or sam, and that's the only voice it seems to have by itsself/by default. I still sometimes prefer using scansoft voices for certain types of content, or espeak voices for some other languages. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:53 PM Subject: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi Jacob, Do you know if the Anna SAPI voice was changed from Vista to Windows 7? Does Windows 7 have any new SAPI voices? thanks, Phil - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 and compatibility Just tested winfrotz TTS on my windows 7 work machine, and it seems alright, along with the new MS Anna voice, so while still haven't figured out how come it won't work on my windows XP machines, no matter what I try, it does seem to work on my windows 7 machine. Stay well Jacob Kruger --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4741 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4741 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2598 - Release Date: 01/03/10 09:41:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi Philip, Windows 7 uses Sapi 5.3, the same as Windows 7, and Microsoft Anna is the default Sapi voice for both. So far Anna is the only voice that ships with Windows 7. HTH Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Jacob, Do you know if the Anna SAPI voice was changed from Vista to Windows 7? Does Windows 7 have any new SAPI voices? thanks, Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
Hi Shirley, I'm sorry, but what does unzipping them have to do with downloading them? The Draconis games are standard Windows setup files where Jim's games are self-extracting setup files. It shouldn't make a difference in downloading them. Can you explain more about your problem here? Cheers! Shirley Starblanket wrote: Hey all. I was successful in downloading some games from Jim's website. I can't, however, download any from Draconus Entertainment. Probably because they don't unzip. Happy New Year! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Sorry if this question is slightly offtopic, but I use windows 7 and played around with the different voices I have installed on my pc. One being anna that comes with win 7. Now I went and chose it for my jaws voice. It works well, the only thing is it is so much softer than all the others I ever had. I turned volume up all the way in jaws options but unless I yank my speakers up a lot as well, you can hardly hear her. Last option is not really workable as my ears will fall off from all the other sounds and stuff when I keep it this high lol So is this normal? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi Ch b. I think that when you choose the Anna voice in Jaws, you can tab to a volume control that adjusts the volume of just that voice. phil - Original Message - From: Ch.B. chr1...@gmx.de To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Sorry if this question is slightly offtopic, but I use windows 7 and played around with the different voices I have installed on my pc. One being anna that comes with win 7. Now I went and chose it for my jaws voice. It works well, the only thing is it is so much softer than all the others I ever had. I turned volume up all the way in jaws options but unless I yank my speakers up a lot as well, you can hardly hear her. Last option is not really workable as my ears will fall off from all the other sounds and stuff when I keep it this high lol So is this normal? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2599 - Release Date: 01/04/10 08:24:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi phil, I did have them all the way up in global and custom settings, did not really do any good :( thanks though. Maybe that is jst the way the synthesizer is set to work with anna, don't know. Guess it is back to tom and jennifer for me lol -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 4:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi Ch b. I think that when you choose the Anna voice in Jaws, you can tab to a volume control that adjusts the volume of just that voice. phil - Original Message - From: Ch.B. chr1...@gmx.de To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Sorry if this question is slightly offtopic, but I use windows 7 and played around with the different voices I have installed on my pc. One being anna that comes with win 7. Now I went and chose it for my jaws voice. It works well, the only thing is it is so much softer than all the others I ever had. I turned volume up all the way in jaws options but unless I yank my speakers up a lot as well, you can hardly hear her. Last option is not really workable as my ears will fall off from all the other sounds and stuff when I keep it this high lol So is this normal? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2599 - Release Date: 01/04/10 08:24:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes
HI Gang, I've just tried to playh Core Exiles for the first time. I've created my account and tried to use the combo box to select an activity. But even though I hit the space bar before arrowing down through the list, I get sent to another page. Am I forgetting something? I'm running JFW 9 on an XP Home system. Thanks, --Bill Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes
What like look at trade missions or stuff like that? Hold the left alt down then arrow down then press enter on the desired option of your choice. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of William L. Houts Sent: 04 January 2010 16:07 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes HI Gang, I've just tried to playh Core Exiles for the first time. I've created my account and tried to use the combo box to select an activity. But even though I hit the space bar before arrowing down through the list, I get sent to another page. Am I forgetting something? I'm running JFW 9 on an XP Home system. Thanks, --Bill Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2599 - Release Date: 01/04/10 08:24:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi Phil, Windows 7 only has the Anna voice. You can still get Sam and Mike I think, but...why? :d. I like the voice a lot. Although I don't use it because I find it's volume to be a bit too low, it's good to know there's a decent reading voice on the system now. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 -- From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:53 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi Jacob, Do you know if the Anna SAPI voice was changed from Vista to Windows 7? Does Windows 7 have any new SAPI voices? thanks, Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi, Yes, I have found the same issue on my system. So far, I haven't found a way to turn up the synthesizer volume like you could in Windows XP by clicking Speech in Control Panel. This is the reason I don't use the voice although it is pretty good. Of course you can turn down the system sounds so that they don't blast over Anna, but that's not worth my time I feel--just to use a different synthesizer. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 -- From: Ch.B. chr1...@gmx.de Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:41 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Sorry if this question is slightly offtopic, but I use windows 7 and played around with the different voices I have installed on my pc. One being anna that comes with win 7. Now I went and chose it for my jaws voice. It works well, the only thing is it is so much softer than all the others I ever had. I turned volume up all the way in jaws options but unless I yank my speakers up a lot as well, you can hardly hear her. Last option is not really workable as my ears will fall off from all the other sounds and stuff when I keep it this high lol So is this normal? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi Phil, It ups it a bit if you do that, but it doesn't really make a difference if it's already at 90% volume and still soft--10% more won't really help. :). Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 -- From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:19 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi Ch b. I think that when you choose the Anna voice in Jaws, you can tab to a volume control that adjusts the volume of just that voice. phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
I use tom for regular reading and it switches to Jennifer when menu items and stuff are read. This works pretty for me. Was just curious to try out anna, so I guess unless she gets over her laringitis I keep her off lol -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi, Yes, I have found the same issue on my system. So far, I haven't found a way to turn up the synthesizer volume like you could in Windows XP by clicking Speech in Control Panel. This is the reason I don't use the voice although it is pretty good. Of course you can turn down the system sounds so that they don't blast over Anna, but that's not worth my time I feel--just to use a different synthesizer. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 -- From: Ch.B. chr1...@gmx.de Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:41 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Sorry if this question is slightly offtopic, but I use windows 7 and played around with the different voices I have installed on my pc. One being anna that comes with win 7. Now I went and chose it for my jaws voice. It works well, the only thing is it is so much softer than all the others I ever had. I turned volume up all the way in jaws options but unless I yank my speakers up a lot as well, you can hardly hear her. Last option is not really workable as my ears will fall off from all the other sounds and stuff when I keep it this high lol So is this normal? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The beta team
Hi Claudio, Well, as a game developer and someone who has run my own private beta teams I have to say there is a lot more to the selection process than you may realize. When a developer such as myself puts out a request looking for beta testers it is easy to get back several applications for the position, but only 10 to 12 out of those applications will actually be selected for the team. Therefore my job as the lead developer and beta tester is to somehow select 10 to 12 people out of 40, 50, or 60 applications for the position. The only way to do that is by looking for specific skills and qualities that would make a good beta tester in my opinion. I have to do that, because not everyone who applies for a testing position is exactly qualified for the position he/she wants. Just like any employer I pick and choose based on certain criteria which i feel would best be suited for the job. Here is a few that I personally look for. The applicant's language skills. When testing it is important for the tester to be able to clearly state his/her opinions, problem with the product, and be able to communicate effectively with the other beta testers. Since communication on a test team is vitally important I'm likely to reject an application if the applicant makes consistent grammatical and spelling errors, and the message is difficult to read. Previous experience testing software. Just like any employer I tend to look for references and prier experience testing software. It is nice for me to be able to ask developer x if he/she has had such and such an applicant as a beta tester, and how well he/she did while testing. A good reference from developer x goes a long way towards getting on my beta team, and a bad reference will put the applicant at the bottom of the list. So references are just another way for me to sort out the potential applicants. The applicant's hardware/software. Not only does a potential tester have to meet certain criteria his/her computer also may have to meet specific criteria for testing. Given the number of types of computers out there, different operating systems, processors, etc it is vitally important that a developer try and gather information on as many different computers and configurations as humanly possible during the early testing period. Now, that USA Games is now going forward with a cross-platform design initiative it will be more important than ever to include a little bit of everything in the testing process. Generally, it would be a good idea to have at least one representative for each platform targeted such as Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS, and Linux. A team consisting of 12 users all running the same operating system would obviously be too narrow a target group, and so I may decide to reject someone on the grounds I already have the maximum number of testers for a specific target group. The applicant's reputation. As a developer I often look at the applicant's reputation or character for possible membership on one of my test teams. I wouldn't want a known software pirate for obvious reasons, and someone who is frequently disruptive on list wouldn't exactly be a good choice either. So a person's reputation will definitely be factored into my decision for beta testing. The applicant's technical skills. As a beta tester I expect an applicant to be able to perform basic computer operations such as adding and removing software from his/her computer, being able to install required dependencies on his/her own, be able to trouble shoot problems that arise during testing, and to do all of this with little to no documentation. The object of selecting a test team is to test the software, run it through various test situations, etc and the developer is not there to hold someone's hand and walk them through basic skills like installing software, removing software, deleting files, downloading software from the internet, whatever. Therefore some basic computer skills are absolutely essential for a beta tester. For example, currently I'm working on porting Mysteries of the Ancients to C++ and have already cross compiled a version for the Linux OS. Before it goes public I'll be forming a test team to test the Linux port of the game. I'd expect a tester using a Debian based Linux to be familiar with the Linux operating system as well as package add/remove tools such as dpkg and apt-get. Similarly a Red Hat based Linux user would be familiar with his/her Linux operating system as well as package add/remove tools like rpm and yum. The Linux user would have to be familiar with the Gnome desktop environment, and have basic skills using a screen reader like Orca. I'm not going to pick a Linux tester that doesn't have at least these technical skills for the position. As far as responding to each and every applicant sometimes that isn't feasible. When I announced beta testing positions for Mysteries of the Ancients I
Re: [Audyssey] Public betas vs private testing
Hi Dark, Yes, in deed. It is a rather unusual situation, and one I doubt another game developer will find themselves in. The problem began long before I got on the seen with Alchemy offering certain games with certain features, making and breaking promises, and something I should have left well alone. However, like many others here I had money wrapped up in Raceway and Montezuma's Revenge so felt I had the right to the source code so I could finish and sell the games myself. Plus I didn't want to see anyone get screwed over Alchemy pulling out like that and keeping the money for the preorders. So no matter how you cut it it was a bad situation from the start. I believe once I get Raceway and MOTA done things will get allot better for everyone. For one thing any games I work on will be my own, I won't be taking preorders for them, and I don't even have to announce their existence until I'm ready too. That allows me to design a game relatively in secret, and only when it is ready to be tested will I make the project known to the public at large. That allows me some breathing room to do things on my own time and in my own way. dark wrote: I see the truth of all that Tom, however as you said yourself, i don't think Mota is a particularly typical testing process at all for games. Even apart from the pretty major money issue you mention, there was the fact that the original alchemy game had features x y z, that you then produced your own game which got shot down by the evil lawyers of doom, and now we're onto a third project under the same banner but essentially a different game. When i think of all the Monti and mota versions i've played, features have gone in and out like nobody's business due to all these changes. I think if Monti had just been firmly and squarely released as it should have been, all these shinanigans would've sorted themselves out. Hopefully any games Philip, yourself, or indeed anybody else developes in future will be free of all these swings and roundabouts. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Public betas vs private testing
Hi Dark, That's my entire point though. In order for me to test the entire game I have to give away a full unlocked copy to someone that way the final game level which is different from the first gets fully tested as well as all the levels in between. That's why I made the point that a developer really could use a private team for testing the full/unlocked copy where the public team gets only a demo for general testing on a larger range of systems and platforms. dark wrote: Hi tom. I wasn't in anyway suggesting giving away public copies of the game. As has already been said, public copies should be restricted to demo content only, and for the purposes of testing the general running and mechanics of the game. If you've got a game which employs vastly different enemies and mechanics throughout, so that the last level is vastly different to the first, then indeed private testing does make sense as you will need people to play the private version. there are stil other options than giving away free coppies though such as reductions in price. # Essentially it just depends upon how complete your private beta is. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games
Hi Trouble, Thanks for the corrections. I don't actually own a Mac myself although I have used them a few times at my relatives' house. So I do appreciate the updated information. However, my main point was to point out that just because someone invests in a Mac or Linux PC it isn't the end of the world for Windows applications. There are ways of getting around that problem like running Windows via Boot Camp, using VM Ware, creating a multiboot, whatever. I've even managed to get some accessible games going under wine, but it is a massive pain in the rear to get working since you have to copy, cut, and paste a lot of dependencies into wine from Windows XP. Some games are easier to get working under emulation than others. Some games like Q9 and Kringle Crash would be easier to get running under wine just because it is written in C++ and basically requires DirectX 8 which can easily be setup under wine. Jim Kitchens games on the other hand require DirectX 8, Sapi 5, Visual Basic 6, and all the dependencies they depend on which becomes a mess of libraries and files to install to get it working. Equally bad are Che's .NET based games for roughly the same reasons. Too many dependencies requiring too many other dependencies to resolve realistically for emulation. So running games via wine is pretty hit and miss, but it can be done in some cases. Trouble wrote: Just to clear a few things up. With boot camp your second op is not running in virtual mode. It is running under full system resources. So on the new mac's it would be like a regular pc. Now if you want the best of both worlds and ops. You can run them together with the second op in the virtual world with either fusion or virtual box. That lets them run side by side sharing resources. Now we also have a third option with peroral for mac. it lets you install and run the pc software under the mac op. The only bust here is not all software will run that way but a lot will. With this new mac op you can even install it on a pc. They call them hackintoshes. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi, For some reason the volume for Microsoft Anna is typically pretty low, but you can raise the volume somewhat by adjusting it in the control panel. If you go into the control panel and go to the speech settings in that dialog there is an option for adjusting the audio output for Anna. Press enter on the audio output button and tab to the volume button, press enter, and crank the volume up to the max. Sorry, I don't have Windows 7 sitting right in front of me at the moment so I can't give you step by step details right now, but if you still need more help when I get on my laptop I'll write up more detailed step by step instructions if you need them. Ch.B. wrote: Sorry if this question is slightly offtopic, but I use windows 7 and played around with the different voices I have installed on my pc. One being anna that comes with win 7. Now I went and chose it for my jaws voice. It works well, the only thing is it is so much softer than all the others I ever had. I turned volume up all the way in jaws options but unless I yank my speakers up a lot as well, you can hardly hear her. Last option is not really workable as my ears will fall off from all the other sounds and stuff when I keep it this high lol So is this normal? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi Phil, Actually, there are two volume controles involved here. There is the volume controle your screen reader uses and the default one used by the Sapi Engine itself. If turning Jaws, Window eyes, etc up doesn't help always check the default volume settings for the Sapi voice in the controle pannel as well. HTH Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Ch b. I think that when you choose the Anna voice in Jaws, you can tab to a volume control that adjusts the volume of just that voice. phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes
I've now tried holding down the left ALT key while using the arrows, but it doesn't scroll through the options, it just sticks there. I wonder if there's some setting I might have screen reader or IE on which is preventing me from using those keystrokes. --Bill - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes What like look at trade missions or stuff like that? Hold the left alt down then arrow down then press enter on the desired option of your choice. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of William L. Houts Sent: 04 January 2010 16:07 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes HI Gang, I've just tried to playh Core Exiles for the first time. I've created my account and tried to use the combo box to select an activity. But even though I hit the space bar before arrowing down through the list, I get sent to another page. Am I forgetting something? I'm running JFW 9 on an XP Home system. Thanks, --Bill Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2599 - Release Date: 01/04/10 08:24:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi Munawar, Oh, the Sapi speech settings are still in Windows 7, but are located in a new location just like everything else in Windows 7. It is hard to find certain settings, because Microsoft started relocating everything in Vista and continued the confusion under Windows 7. So sometimes it just takes poking around and finding where they put everything in the Win 7 control panel. Cheers! Munawar Bijani wrote: Hi, Yes, I have found the same issue on my system. So far, I haven't found a way to turn up the synthesizer volume like you could in Windows XP by clicking Speech in Control Panel. This is the reason I don't use the voice although it is pretty good. Of course you can turn down the system sounds so that they don't blast over Anna, but that's not worth my time I feel--just to use a different synthesizer. Munawar A. Bijani --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
well if you go to ftp://onj1.andrelouis.com and click on programs you can get anna. goodness knows how onj got a legal installer but there you go. At 02:18 a.m. 5/01/2010, you wrote: Hi Jacob, I found out that the Anna voice is also part of Microsoft Streets Trips 2010 So anyone with XP can get the Anna voice by buying this program. However I don't know if the program is accessible. And it costs about $37 USD so is more expensive to get just for the voice than those from NextUp.com Phil - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility No idea since never even tried out vista, but it's definitely better than mary, mike or sam, and that's the only voice it seems to have by itsself/by default. I still sometimes prefer using scansoft voices for certain types of content, or espeak voices for some other languages. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:53 PM Subject: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi Jacob, Do you know if the Anna SAPI voice was changed from Vista to Windows 7? Does Windows 7 have any new SAPI voices? thanks, Phil - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 and compatibility Just tested winfrotz TTS on my windows 7 work machine, and it seems alright, along with the new MS Anna voice, so while still haven't figured out how come it won't work on my windows XP machines, no matter what I try, it does seem to work on my windows 7 machine. Stay well Jacob Kruger --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4741 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4741 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2598 - Release Date: 01/03/10 09:41:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] successful downloading
Well Thomas, if Draconus' games were like Jim's, then I could download them. When I press enter on download I get, cancel, save and run. I press run and all I get is, close this page when downloading is done I press enter and nothing happens. So, if Draconus' games were like Jim's I'd be so happy!! That's the best I can do for explaining. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
I went in there where the voice for narrator is located, inside the control panel. Anna is already cranked up to 9 which is the highest it lets me go. So she should be screaming her lungs out by now, but she is not :) -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:58 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi, For some reason the volume for Microsoft Anna is typically pretty low, but you can raise the volume somewhat by adjusting it in the control panel. If you go into the control panel and go to the speech settings in that dialog there is an option for adjusting the audio output for Anna. Press enter on the audio output button and tab to the volume button, press enter, and crank the volume up to the max. Sorry, I don't have Windows 7 sitting right in front of me at the moment so I can't give you step by step details right now, but if you still need more help when I get on my laptop I'll write up more detailed step by step instructions if you need them. Ch.B. wrote: Sorry if this question is slightly offtopic, but I use windows 7 and played around with the different voices I have installed on my pc. One being anna that comes with win 7. Now I went and chose it for my jaws voice. It works well, the only thing is it is so much softer than all the others I ever had. I turned volume up all the way in jaws options but unless I yank my speakers up a lot as well, you can hardly hear her. Last option is not really workable as my ears will fall off from all the other sounds and stuff when I keep it this high lol So is this normal? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes
use alt down arrow to get at the boxes. the first box is only good if you want to log out, read docs, enter markets. etc the second box is only good if you are on a mission or need to get access to the location program. I suggest you join a guild you get bonuses. but may have to contribute stuff alter on. I am with intelliquest pronounced interleqest by most readers but communications and emails and osme listings are put as intelli quest so whatever. I suggest you go to senfaren, I think and get the gild offices there I think, forgot havn't been there for ages. I know the office is in the feren system or is that the gbm? There are probably others that can tell you where. I also suggest you follow the message about getting the extra 20 k sign up in the forums and post to the hellow thread a greeting. after that well I haven't bothered. Right now I am stuck in a bit of a bother. I have enough cash thanks to the guild, for christmas and such. I can buy a bigger gun and get back in combat. In fact I can get most weapons. I am unfortunately level 17 not higher so I can only get a level17 weapon. Right now with my scanner basic sensor I have 300 units of power left. the lowest I found was 383 units of power. I am trying to find something I can use. On that note, how do you sell your oar you have extracted? I have some inert gas and some reactive gas. its currently been in storage for a few months. I need to know how to sell the stuff. How do I do it on the gbm? I get it, talk to the npc on sangalen but then what? there is a big list of items on the screen no where to list anything new. On that note though if something is in storage can I enter it on a player market? I know tagons tribute has storage for this extracted stuff but how do I enter that on the player market. I'd like to make cash more cash than I am right now. Oh and don't be fulled. you should be able to get the cash to continue a ways but eventually you will need to get biger things. At 05:07 a.m. 5/01/2010, you wrote: HI Gang, I've just tried to playh Core Exiles for the first time. I've created my account and tried to use the combo box to select an activity. But even though I hit the space bar before arrowing down through the list, I get sent to another page. Am I forgetting something? I'm running JFW 9 on an XP Home system. Thanks, --Bill Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
Hi Shirley, Ah, I see. What you are suppose to do with the Draconis games is save them to your computer, like your Documents directory, and then run the setup file from there. So if you get a dialog to run, save, or cancel the game press enter on save rather than run or cancel. I think this is just a simple case of doing the wrong thing when prompted by your computer. So next time instead of trying to do run try saving the games to your computer first. Remember Draconis's games are very big so it could take a long time to save them. Cheers! Shirley Starblanket wrote: Well Thomas, if Draconus' games were like Jim's, then I could download them. When I press enter on download I get, cancel, save and run. I press run and all I get is, close this page when downloading is done I press enter and nothing happens. So, if Draconus' games were like Jim's I'd be so happy!! That's the best I can do for explaining. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
i don't think those older voices will work unless someone has found a way to make them work with vista and later. On Jan 4, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Munawar Bijani wrote: Hi Phil, Windows 7 only has the Anna voice. You can still get Sam and Mike I think, but...why? :d. I like the voice a lot. Although I don't use it because I find it's volume to be a bit too low, it's good to know there's a decent reading voice on the system now. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 -- From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:53 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi Jacob, Do you know if the Anna SAPI voice was changed from Vista to Windows 7? Does Windows 7 have any new SAPI voices? thanks, Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
well, anna works great with games that use sapi 5 and she isn't low when using her with games like Jim kitchen's games for instance. On Jan 4, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Munawar Bijani wrote: Hi, Yes, I have found the same issue on my system. So far, I haven't found a way to turn up the synthesizer volume like you could in Windows XP by clicking Speech in Control Panel. This is the reason I don't use the voice although it is pretty good. Of course you can turn down the system sounds so that they don't blast over Anna, but that's not worth my time I feel--just to use a different synthesizer. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 -- From: Ch.B. chr1...@gmx.de Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:41 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Sorry if this question is slightly offtopic, but I use windows 7 and played around with the different voices I have installed on my pc. One being anna that comes with win 7. Now I went and chose it for my jaws voice. It works well, the only thing is it is so much softer than all the others I ever had. I turned volume up all the way in jaws options but unless I yank my speakers up a lot as well, you can hardly hear her. Last option is not really workable as my ears will fall off from all the other sounds and stuff when I keep it this high lol So is this normal? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
You have to choose 'save' not 'run' as an option, the game needs to be installed on your pc, therefore you have to save it first and then run the installer. Shirley Starblanket wrote: Well Thomas, if Draconus' games were like Jim's, then I could download them. When I press enter on download I get, cancel, save and run. I press run and all I get is, close this page when downloading is done I press enter and nothing happens. So, if Draconus' games were like Jim's I'd be so happy!! That's the best I can do for explaining. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes
no use alt down to get in the list. then you can navigate what you want. note though once you have what you want and hit enter tab or any other key it will execute. At 07:08 a.m. 5/01/2010, you wrote: I've now tried holding down the left ALT key while using the arrows, but it doesn't scroll through the options, it just sticks there. I wonder if there's some setting I might have screen reader or IE on which is preventing me from using those keystrokes. --Bill - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes What like look at trade missions or stuff like that? Hold the left alt down then arrow down then press enter on the desired option of your choice. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of William L. Houts Sent: 04 January 2010 16:07 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes HI Gang, I've just tried to playh Core Exiles for the first time. I've created my account and tried to use the combo box to select an activity. But even though I hit the space bar before arrowing down through the list, I get sent to another page. Am I forgetting something? I'm running JFW 9 on an XP Home system. Thanks, --Bill Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2599 - Release Date: 01/04/10 08:24:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi, I'm not talking about Windows Narrator. Windows Narrator is a cheap screen reader for Windows 7 that ships with the OS. What I'm talking about is the settings for Sapi 5 in the control panel. There is a difference. Cheers! Ch.B. wrote: I went in there where the voice for narrator is located, inside the control panel. Anna is already cranked up to 9 which is the highest it lets me go. So she should be screaming her lungs out by now, but she is not :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
hi Shirly. It's simple. either select save if you want to keep the setup file (I recommend doing this), or select run. The file will then download, which might take a while (some of draconis' games are bigger than jims). Then, once downloaded, an install wizard will start up, asking you where you want the games installed, just keep running through the next button to have them installed in the default location (which should be fine). Hth. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] successful downloading Well Thomas, if Draconus' games were like Jim's, then I could download them. When I press enter on download I get, cancel, save and run. I press run and all I get is, close this page when downloading is done I press enter and nothing happens. So, if Draconus' games were like Jim's I'd be so happy!! That's the best I can do for explaining. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
Hi, When you press Run, the program won't start instantly as the site has to download the file to a temporary spot on your computer, then it will run, and you can install the game. Actually, I don't run the program directly at all, but instead choose the Save button, then select a download location on my hard drive, and run it from there when the download process is finished. Hope this makes sense. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia For information regarding my Internet radio shows, links to my favorite sites, and more, visit my personal website at http://www.ksapergia.net/. If you need jingles, voiceovers and music for your project at an affordable price, visit KJS Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com/. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Q9 To Be Reviewed On This Week's Innovations Show
Hi, On this week's broadcast of Innovations, The Global Voice's technology show, one of the items you can hear is my review of Q9 from Blast Bay Studios. Innovations first airs every Tuesday at 17:00 UTC (12:00 PM Eastern, 9:00 AM Pacific), and will then be available to listen to or download from The Global Voice's Program Gallery page. It's also repeated at various times throughout the week. For more information about The Global Voice, or to view the schedule for repeat times, visit http://www.theglobalvoice.info/. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia For information regarding my Internet radio shows, links to my favorite sites, and more, visit my personal website at http://www.ksapergia.net/. If you need jingles, voiceovers and music for your project at an affordable price, visit KJS Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com/. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possibly dummies
Hi all, I have a procrastination gap to fill while I'm on the road this week. Fancied trying my hand at Sudoku. Can anyone recommend a good accessible game to get me started? SudoSan seemed promising, but upon visiting the audiogames.net/sudosan URL and launching the game, I get the intro played but can't seem to get any of the shortcuts listed to work. It's as if the game doesn't see that I'm pressing n for a new puzzle or d for difficulty etc, it just sits there and plays japanese music at me. Pretty cool authentic music I should add, so it's not all bad. Thanks in advance... Scott --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Yes, I know but in Windows 7 in the control panel the only place I could find any voice options was in that accessibility menu, where narrator is at. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:57 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi, I'm not talking about Windows Narrator. Windows Narrator is a cheap screen reader for Windows 7 that ships with the OS. What I'm talking about is the settings for Sapi 5 in the control panel. There is a difference. JQ7Bbt8z --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 To Be Reviewed On This Week's Innovations Show
Hi all, I can highly recommend this review, it gives a very good explanation of the game and guides you through some levels in a very instructive and informative manner. I will also host it on my website on the Q9 page, under the audio heading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:48 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Q9 To Be Reviewed On This Week's Innovations Show Hi, On this week's broadcast of Innovations, The Global Voice's technology show, one of the items you can hear is my review of Q9 from Blast Bay Studios. Innovations first airs every Tuesday at 17:00 UTC (12:00 PM Eastern, 9:00 AM Pacific), and will then be available to listen to or download from The Global Voice's Program Gallery page. It's also repeated at various times throughout the week. For more information about The Global Voice, or to view the schedule for repeat times, visit http://www.theglobalvoice.info/. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia For information regarding my Internet radio shows, links to my favorite sites, and more, visit my personal website at http://www.ksapergia.net/. If you need jingles, voiceovers and music for your project at an affordable price, visit KJS Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com/. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 09:20:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Core Exiles Woes: Combo Boxes
Hello, You need to use alt down-arrow to open those list boxes without activating the first item. David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com William L. Houts wrote: HI Gang, I've just tried to playh Core Exiles for the first time. I've created my account and tried to use the combo box to select an activity. But even though I hit the space bar before arrowing down through the list, I get sent to another page. Am I forgetting something? I'm running JFW 9 on an XP Home system. Thanks, --Bill Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The beta team
I take a lot of flack for this, but I pick people that I know well for the simple reason that i am familiar with them, and I know they'll do what I need them to. I know it's probably not fair, but it's how I like to work, and it's what works best for me. to each his own. On 1/4/10, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Claudio, Well, as a game developer and someone who has run my own private beta teams I have to say there is a lot more to the selection process than you may realize. When a developer such as myself puts out a request looking for beta testers it is easy to get back several applications for the position, but only 10 to 12 out of those applications will actually be selected for the team. Therefore my job as the lead developer and beta tester is to somehow select 10 to 12 people out of 40, 50, or 60 applications for the position. The only way to do that is by looking for specific skills and qualities that would make a good beta tester in my opinion. I have to do that, because not everyone who applies for a testing position is exactly qualified for the position he/she wants. Just like any employer I pick and choose based on certain criteria which i feel would best be suited for the job. Here is a few that I personally look for. The applicant's language skills. When testing it is important for the tester to be able to clearly state his/her opinions, problem with the product, and be able to communicate effectively with the other beta testers. Since communication on a test team is vitally important I'm likely to reject an application if the applicant makes consistent grammatical and spelling errors, and the message is difficult to read. Previous experience testing software. Just like any employer I tend to look for references and prier experience testing software. It is nice for me to be able to ask developer x if he/she has had such and such an applicant as a beta tester, and how well he/she did while testing. A good reference from developer x goes a long way towards getting on my beta team, and a bad reference will put the applicant at the bottom of the list. So references are just another way for me to sort out the potential applicants. The applicant's hardware/software. Not only does a potential tester have to meet certain criteria his/her computer also may have to meet specific criteria for testing. Given the number of types of computers out there, different operating systems, processors, etc it is vitally important that a developer try and gather information on as many different computers and configurations as humanly possible during the early testing period. Now, that USA Games is now going forward with a cross-platform design initiative it will be more important than ever to include a little bit of everything in the testing process. Generally, it would be a good idea to have at least one representative for each platform targeted such as Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS, and Linux. A team consisting of 12 users all running the same operating system would obviously be too narrow a target group, and so I may decide to reject someone on the grounds I already have the maximum number of testers for a specific target group. The applicant's reputation. As a developer I often look at the applicant's reputation or character for possible membership on one of my test teams. I wouldn't want a known software pirate for obvious reasons, and someone who is frequently disruptive on list wouldn't exactly be a good choice either. So a person's reputation will definitely be factored into my decision for beta testing. The applicant's technical skills. As a beta tester I expect an applicant to be able to perform basic computer operations such as adding and removing software from his/her computer, being able to install required dependencies on his/her own, be able to trouble shoot problems that arise during testing, and to do all of this with little to no documentation. The object of selecting a test team is to test the software, run it through various test situations, etc and the developer is not there to hold someone's hand and walk them through basic skills like installing software, removing software, deleting files, downloading software from the internet, whatever. Therefore some basic computer skills are absolutely essential for a beta tester. For example, currently I'm working on porting Mysteries of the Ancients to C++ and have already cross compiled a version for the Linux OS. Before it goes public I'll be forming a test team to test the Linux port of the game. I'd expect a tester using a Debian based Linux to be familiar with the Linux operating system as well as package add/remove tools such as dpkg and apt-get. Similarly a Red Hat based Linux user would be familiar with his/her Linux operating system as well as package add/remove tools like rpm and yum. The Linux user would have to be familiar with the Gnome
Re: [Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possible dummies
Hey Scott, On some of those shockwave games, I've found that the only way for me to make it work is to close down my screen reader, then refresh the webpage. I think part of the problem may be that while JAWS is active, the shockwave window is not in focus. Good luck, Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 3:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possible dummies Hi all, I have a procrastination gap to fill while I'm on the road this week. Fancied trying my hand at Sudoku. Can anyone recommend a good accessible game to get me started? SudoSan seemed promising, but upon visiting the audiogames.net/sudosan URL and launching the game, I get the intro played but can't seem to get any of the shortcuts listed to work. It's as if the game doesn't see that I'm pressing n for a new puzzle or d for difficulty etc, it just sits there and plays japanese music at me. Pretty cool authentic music I should add, so it's not all bad. Thanks in advance... Scott PS. Sorry if this got posted twice... gmail is giving me jip tonight. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possible dummies
Hi all, I have a procrastination gap to fill while I'm on the road this week. Fancied trying my hand at Sudoku. Can anyone recommend a good accessible game to get me started? SudoSan seemed promising, but upon visiting the audiogames.net/sudosan URL and launching the game, I get the intro played but can't seem to get any of the shortcuts listed to work. It's as if the game doesn't see that I'm pressing n for a new puzzle or d for difficulty etc, it just sits there and plays japanese music at me. Pretty cool authentic music I should add, so it's not all bad. Thanks in advance... Scott PS. Sorry if this got posted twice... gmail is giving me jip tonight. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Development Environment
Hellow Thomas, Thanks for reposting the link for the development thing a while ago for c++, I think it was. I downloaded and saved it fine and my laptop recognized the file type as a zip file and everything. However it still refuses to open it even though I am running universal extractor, which has opened every other zip file just fine. Any ideas? Thank you, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] judgement day?
well, I've gotten to the part of the game wherein the surprise that will no doubt shut down the supreme evil has been hinted at... now, if others want to reply off list as to not spoil anything else, do so. the question then is, well, how do I get rid of the supreme evil? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] judgement day?
S P O I L E R S P A C E Have you beaten the game since? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of joe quinn Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] judgement day? well, I've gotten to the part of the game wherein the surprise that will no doubt shut down the supreme evil has been hinted at... now, if others want to reply off list as to not spoil anything else, do so. the question then is, well, how do I get rid of the supreme evil? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi, Go to Control Panel in Windows 7 and in the search box type speech and press TAAB. You will find an option called Text To Speech. Hit enter on that and the familiar Text To Speech dialog will appear. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 -- From: Ch.B. chr1...@gmx.de Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 3:58 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Yes, I know but in Windows 7 in the control panel the only place I could find any voice options was in that accessibility menu, where narrator is at. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Need an American Teenager or Student who is a Blind or VI Gamer
Audyssey Folks, We just got the following request for an American teenaged or student gamer who is blind or visually impaired. Voice of America Urdu TV needs to interview a visually impaired teenager or student about what types of games he or she plays. Patrick Timony from MLK Library in D.C. suggested that you might be able to help us locate someone in the D.C. area for the interview. This is a brief television interview for our Hello America segment in which Pakistanis pose questions to Americans about daily life, culture, etc. We need to do the interview in the next week or two, but it can be done at the location of the interviewee's convenience. Please let me know if you can put me in contact with someone. I don't know if the person must be in the DC area or if the interview could be by phone. If anyone wants their 15 minutes of fame, this would be an excellent opportunity. (No, Thomas, Jim, and some of youse other guys. I know you aren't kids, at least in years, smile.) (And I know that Dark is English.) Anyway, if anyone is interested, drop a post here and I'll connect you to the TV person. John Bannick www.7128.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility
Hi munawar, did that and found it, but did not find anyplace there to raise the volume. Do I need to go somewhere else for that? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:50 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Hi, Go to Control Panel in Windows 7 and in the search box type speech and press TAAB. You will find an option called Text To Speech. Hit enter on that and the familiar Text To Speech dialog will appear. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 -- From: Ch.B. chr1...@gmx.de Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 3:58 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Anna voice, was Windows 7 and compatibility Yes, I know but in Windows 7 in the control panel the only place I could find any voice options was in that accessibility menu, where narrator is at. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] judgement day?
yes, but nothing was said to me, apart from the regular things about how he'd be back... granted, I restarted the game and beat it, if that makes any difference. - Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] judgement day? S P O I L E R S P A C E Have you beaten the game since? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of joe quinn Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] judgement day? well, I've gotten to the part of the game wherein the surprise that will no doubt shut down the supreme evil has been hinted at... now, if others want to reply off list as to not spoil anything else, do so. the question then is, well, how do I get rid of the supreme evil? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need an American Teenager or Student who is a Blind or VI Gamer
Hi all. I'm not teen-aged, but I was recently. I'm 21, and I live in North Carolina, Southeast America. I'd be more than happy to do the interview if it didn't involve a rather short-notice trip to D.C. If I can be of assistance in any fassion, please let me know. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 1/4/10, John Bannick jbann...@7128.com wrote: Audyssey Folks, We just got the following request for an American teenaged or student gamer who is blind or visually impaired. Voice of America Urdu TV needs to interview a visually impaired teenager or student about what types of games he or she plays. Patrick Timony from MLK Library in D.C. suggested that you might be able to help us locate someone in the D.C. area for the interview. This is a brief television interview for our Hello America segment in which Pakistanis pose questions to Americans about daily life, culture, etc. We need to do the interview in the next week or two, but it can be done at the location of the interviewee's convenience. Please let me know if you can put me in contact with someone. I don't know if the person must be in the DC area or if the interview could be by phone. If anyone wants their 15 minutes of fame, this would be an excellent opportunity. (No, Thomas, Jim, and some of youse other guys. I know you aren't kids, at least in years, smile.) (And I know that Dark is English.) Anyway, if anyone is interested, drop a post here and I'll connect you to the TV person. John Bannick www.7128.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Aplication Deployment Question
Hi all, This one's for Jim and anyone else who might use VB6. I recently started looking at programming in VB6, and have looked at packaging and deploying applications. I have, for a test, attemted to deploy the number guess program on Jim's site. I get it pachaged, but I can't figure out how to deploy the thing. How do you do that? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] judgement day?
Are you talking about receiving the 18 trophies and getting that message? I have gotten that as well, and still haven't been able to do that. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Liam Erven Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:25 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] judgement day? S P O I L E R S P A C E Have you beaten the game since? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of joe quinn Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] judgement day? well, I've gotten to the part of the game wherein the surprise that will no doubt shut down the supreme evil has been hinted at... now, if others want to reply off list as to not spoil anything else, do so. the question then is, well, how do I get rid of the supreme evil? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Aplication Deployment Question
I don't deploy with the built-in tools. I use something like innosetup or something similar for all my packaging and deployment needs. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:15 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] Aplication Deployment Question Hi all, This one's for Jim and anyone else who might use VB6. I recently started looking at programming in VB6, and have looked at packaging and deploying applications. I have, for a test, attemted to deploy the number guess program on Jim's site. I get it pachaged, but I can't figure out how to deploy the thing. How do you do that? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Aplication Deployment Question
Ah -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Liam Erven Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:20 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Aplication Deployment Question I don't deploy with the built-in tools. I use something like innosetup or something similar for all my packaging and deployment needs. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:15 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] Aplication Deployment Question Hi all, This one's for Jim and anyone else who might use VB6. I recently started looking at programming in VB6, and have looked at packaging and deploying applications. I have, for a test, attemted to deploy the number guess program on Jim's site. I get it pachaged, but I can't figure out how to deploy the thing. How do you do that? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Aplication Deployment Question
Hi, Inno Setup is definitely the way to go. It's very easy to use (and free), and you can use Pascal for any additional scripting your setup may need. For a guess the number game, Inno's basic features should do it. -Ryan On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Ah -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Liam Erven Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:20 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Aplication Deployment Question I don't deploy with the built-in tools. I use something like innosetup or something similar for all my packaging and deployment needs. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:15 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] Aplication Deployment Question Hi all, This one's for Jim and anyone else who might use VB6. I recently started looking at programming in VB6, and have looked at packaging and deploying applications. I have, for a test, attemted to deploy the number guess program on Jim's site. I get it pachaged, but I can't figure out how to deploy the thing. How do you do that? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 To Be Reviewed On This Week's Innovations Show
On 1/4/2010 11:48 AM, Kelly Sapergia wrote: Hi, On this week's broadcast of Innovations, The Global Voice's technology show, one of the items you can hear is my review of Q9 from Blast Bay Studios. Innovations first airs every Tuesday at 17:00 UTC (12:00 PM Eastern, 9:00 AM Pacific), and will then be available to listen to or download from The Global Voice's Program Gallery page. It's also repeated at various times throughout the week. For more information about The Global Voice, or to view the schedule for repeat times, visit http://www.theglobalvoice.info/. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia For information regarding my Internet radio shows, links to my favorite sites, and more, visit my personal website at http://www.ksapergia.net/. If you need jingles, voiceovers and music for your project at an affordable price, visit KJS Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com/. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Is there a podcast version of the Innovations show? Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
Rather than pressing enter on run, choose the save option. Be sure to notice where the file will be saved to. I would never, under any circumstances, use a run option from an Internet site. I may be mistaken, but this is a good way to get a virus. Also, if I am right, you cannot remove the installed program after doing it this way. If I'm wrong on all this, I hope that others will courteously correct and inform me? Thanks. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:26 AM Subject: [Audyssey] successful downloading Well Thomas, if Draconus' games were like Jim's, then I could download them. When I press enter on download I get, cancel, save and run. I press run and all I get is, close this page when downloading is done I press enter and nothing happens. So, if Draconus' games were like Jim's I'd be so happy!! That's the best I can do for explaining. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] hello
Hi all moderators. Unfortunately I have to leave this liste, cause I'll travel and I'll not have how to see my e-mails. I sent an e-mail to the adress indicated, but I think it's not working. Can you do this for me?. I want to go back, as is possible. This group is very nice, I liked alot. Sincerelly, Spencer Miranda __ Informação do ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versão da vacina 4740 (20100103) __ A mensagem foi verificada pelo ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] hello
Hi, Actually, this is the right address. Best Regards, Hayden (who is not a moderator, grin) -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Spencer Miranda Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:58 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] hello Hi all moderators. Unfortunately I have to leave this liste, cause I'll travel and I'll not have how to see my e-mails. I sent an e-mail to the adress indicated, but I think it's not working. Can you do this for me?. I want to go back, as is possible. This group is very nice, I liked alot. Sincerelly, Spencer Miranda __ Informação do ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versão da vacina 4740 (20100103) __ A mensagem foi verificada pelo ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The beta team
Great insight, Tom. I hope everyone who wishes to become a beta tester for any game developer keeps your opinions in mind. I, for one, am keeping this post for future reference, and, if you give your OK, would like to pass it on to others? I would also think this a worthwhile addition to an issue of Audyssey.Thanks. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The beta team Hi Claudio, Well, as a game developer and someone who has run my own private beta teams I have to say there is a lot more to the selection process than you may realize. When a developer such as myself puts out a request looking for beta testers it is easy to get back several applications for the position, but only 10 to 12 out of those applications will actually be selected for the team. Therefore my job as the lead developer and beta tester is to somehow select 10 to 12 people out of 40, 50, or 60 applications for the position. The only way to do that is by looking for specific skills and qualities that would make a good beta tester in my opinion. I have to do that, because not everyone who applies for a testing position is exactly qualified for the position he/she wants. Just like any employer I pick and choose based on certain criteria which i feel would best be suited for the job. Here is a few that I personally look for. The applicant's language skills. When testing it is important for the tester to be able to clearly state his/her opinions, problem with the product, and be able to communicate effectively with the other beta testers. Since communication on a test team is vitally important I'm likely to reject an application if the applicant makes consistent grammatical and spelling errors, and the message is difficult to read. Previous experience testing software. Just like any employer I tend to look for references and prier experience testing software. It is nice for me to be able to ask developer x if he/she has had such and such an applicant as a beta tester, and how well he/she did while testing. A good reference from developer x goes a long way towards getting on my beta team, and a bad reference will put the applicant at the bottom of the list. So references are just another way for me to sort out the potential applicants. The applicant's hardware/software. Not only does a potential tester have to meet certain criteria his/her computer also may have to meet specific criteria for testing. Given the number of types of computers out there, different operating systems, processors, etc it is vitally important that a developer try and gather information on as many different computers and configurations as humanly possible during the early testing period. Now, that USA Games is now going forward with a cross-platform design initiative it will be more important than ever to include a little bit of everything in the testing process. Generally, it would be a good idea to have at least one representative for each platform targeted such as Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS, and Linux. A team consisting of 12 users all running the same operating system would obviously be too narrow a target group, and so I may decide to reject someone on the grounds I already have the maximum number of testers for a specific target group. The applicant's reputation. As a developer I often look at the applicant's reputation or character for possible membership on one of my test teams. I wouldn't want a known software pirate for obvious reasons, and someone who is frequently disruptive on list wouldn't exactly be a good choice either. So a person's reputation will definitely be factored into my decision for beta testing. The applicant's technical skills. As a beta tester I expect an applicant to be able to perform basic computer operations such as adding and removing software from his/her computer, being able to install required dependencies on his/her own, be able to trouble shoot problems that arise during testing, and to do all of this with little to no documentation. The object of selecting a test team is to test the software, run it through various test situations, etc and the developer is not there to hold someone's hand and walk them through basic skills like installing software, removing software, deleting files, downloading software from the internet, whatever. Therefore some basic computer skills are absolutely essential for a beta tester. For example, currently I'm working on porting Mysteries of the Ancients to C++ and have already cross compiled a version for the Linux OS. Before it goes public I'll be forming a test team to test the Linux port of the game. I'd expect a tester using a Debian based Linux to be familiar with the Linux operating system as well as package add/remove tools such as dpkg and apt-get. Similarly a Red Hat based Linux user would be familiar
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
About getting a virus, I don't see how your chances of getting a virus are increaded if you choose run. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:44 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading Rather than pressing enter on run, choose the save option. Be sure to notice where the file will be saved to. I would never, under any circumstances, use a run option from an Internet site. I may be mistaken, but this is a good way to get a virus. Also, if I am right, you cannot remove the installed program after doing it this way. If I'm wrong on all this, I hope that others will courteously correct and inform me? Thanks. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:26 AM Subject: [Audyssey] successful downloading Well Thomas, if Draconus' games were like Jim's, then I could download them. When I press enter on download I get, cancel, save and run. I press run and all I get is, close this page when downloading is done I press enter and nothing happens. So, if Draconus' games were like Jim's I'd be so happy!! That's the best I can do for explaining. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possibly dummies
I like the game produced by www.draconisentertainment.com It is called soundoku. Well worth the money after the trial period ends. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possibly dummies Hi all, I have a procrastination gap to fill while I'm on the road this week. Fancied trying my hand at Sudoku. Can anyone recommend a good accessible game to get me started? SudoSan seemed promising, but upon visiting the audiogames.net/sudosan URL and launching the game, I get the intro played but can't seem to get any of the shortcuts listed to work. It's as if the game doesn't see that I'm pressing n for a new puzzle or d for difficulty etc, it just sits there and plays japanese music at me. Pretty cool authentic music I should add, so it's not all bad. Thanks in advance... Scott --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
Hello, It is almost always better to save rather than run from a web page. This can help with viruses if your antivirus package automatically scans all files which have been downloaded. Whether or not your antivirus does this, it is a good habbit to train yourself to do. The reason is because it is too easy to click on things and infect your system when you are not automatically practicing safe internet procedures. As to removing installed programs, all of the same factors apply. The only difference is that Microsoft automates the process of downloading and starting the install procedure for you. The file is automatically downloaded to the temporary internet files folder. David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Charles Rivard wrote: Rather than pressing enter on run, choose the save option. Be sure to notice where the file will be saved to. I would never, under any circumstances, use a run option from an Internet site. I may be mistaken, but this is a good way to get a virus. Also, if I am right, you cannot remove the installed program after doing it this way. If I'm wrong on all this, I hope that others will courteously correct and inform me? Thanks. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:26 AM Subject: [Audyssey] successful downloading Well Thomas, if Draconus' games were like Jim's, then I could download them. When I press enter on download I get, cancel, save and run. I press run and all I get is, close this page when downloading is done I press enter and nothing happens. So, if Draconus' games were like Jim's I'd be so happy!! That's the best I can do for explaining. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
well I always save things, because I back em up for reinstall. some stuff like large packs are put on loads of other systems here about 4 others and its easier to flash them accross. At 04:33 p.m. 5/01/2010, you wrote: Hello, It is almost always better to save rather than run from a web page. This can help with viruses if your antivirus package automatically scans all files which have been downloaded. Whether or not your antivirus does this, it is a good habbit to train yourself to do. The reason is because it is too easy to click on things and infect your system when you are not automatically practicing safe internet procedures. As to removing installed programs, all of the same factors apply. The only difference is that Microsoft automates the process of downloading and starting the install procedure for you. The file is automatically downloaded to the temporary internet files folder. David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Charles Rivard wrote: Rather than pressing enter on run, choose the save option. Be sure to notice where the file will be saved to. I would never, under any circumstances, use a run option from an Internet site. I may be mistaken, but this is a good way to get a virus. Also, if I am right, you cannot remove the installed program after doing it this way. If I'm wrong on all this, I hope that others will courteously correct and inform me? Thanks. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:26 AM Subject: [Audyssey] successful downloading Well Thomas, if Draconus' games were like Jim's, then I could download them. When I press enter on download I get, cancel, save and run. I press run and all I get is, close this page when downloading is done I press enter and nothing happens. So, if Draconus' games were like Jim's I'd be so happy!! That's the best I can do for explaining. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] successful downloading
Actually charles, you can uninstall fine because the uninstall files are usually just put in the games' folder separately from the setup files, or the games' already been written to the registry so you can just use add/remove programs. I keep most things on a backup external drive, and when I was installing games onto my laptop, I just installed them streight from the setup files on the drive because (unlike on my desktop), I don't have the drive space to hang on to all the setup files. I tend to generally save files as a matter of course so that I can always install the program again after a crash, or install it on another machine, unless their things like program update patches, in which case I just run them directly. As to viruses, I've never had anything nasty happen when directly running files, and the times Avg has interfered (as with night of parasite), it also complained when I downloaded the file. sinse running essentially does the same thing as downloading and saving, accept that instead of saving the file in a location of your choice then running it, it's saved, then run from the temp directory which gets deleated every so often, i'm afraid i don't see the security difference myself whatever internet explorer may say. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possibly dummies
Funnily enough, i was requesting spoonbill softwares' sudoku for my mum, sinse she's a fan of the pen and paper ones but finds them visually a strain and Ian humphrys' version has high visibility graphics as well as the voice. If anyone knows of any other sudoku games with graphics and voice, for instance I don't know if Draconis' soundoku has graphics, my mum would want to know I think. I know there is asabat, but that is a trifle expensive imho. I'm afraid this is a game area I haven't investigated too much myself, sinse I personally find the spacial logic needed for sudoku (or indeed most tyle puzle games), near impossible! Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possibly dummies I like the game produced by www.draconisentertainment.com It is called soundoku. Well worth the money after the trial period ends. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possibly dummies Hi all, I have a procrastination gap to fill while I'm on the road this week. Fancied trying my hand at Sudoku. Can anyone recommend a good accessible game to get me started? SudoSan seemed promising, but upon visiting the audiogames.net/sudosan URL and launching the game, I get the intro played but can't seem to get any of the shortcuts listed to work. It's as if the game doesn't see that I'm pressing n for a new puzzle or d for difficulty etc, it just sits there and plays japanese music at me. Pretty cool authentic music I should add, so it's not all bad. Thanks in advance... Scott --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possibly dummies
yeah i could do with a game and a good tutorial On 5 Jan 2010, at 06:56, dark wrote: Funnily enough, i was requesting spoonbill softwares' sudoku for my mum, sinse she's a fan of the pen and paper ones but finds them visually a strain and Ian humphrys' version has high visibility graphics as well as the voice. If anyone knows of any other sudoku games with graphics and voice, for instance I don't know if Draconis' soundoku has graphics, my mum would want to know I think. I know there is asabat, but that is a trifle expensive imho. I'm afraid this is a game area I haven't investigated too much myself, sinse I personally find the spacial logic needed for sudoku (or indeed most tyle puzle games), near impossible! Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possibly dummies I like the game produced by www.draconisentertainment.com It is called soundoku. Well worth the money after the trial period ends. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Sudoku for newbies, possibly dummies Hi all, I have a procrastination gap to fill while I'm on the road this week. Fancied trying my hand at Sudoku. Can anyone recommend a good accessible game to get me started? SudoSan seemed promising, but upon visiting the audiogames.net/ sudosan URL and launching the game, I get the intro played but can't seem to get any of the shortcuts listed to work. It's as if the game doesn't see that I'm pressing n for a new puzzle or d for difficulty etc, it just sits there and plays japanese music at me. Pretty cool authentic music I should add, so it's not all bad. Thanks in advance... Scott --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
