Re: [Gimp-user] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

[Ross Martinek]

I’m a GIMP user. I haven’t written code since the days of WATFOR.

So whatfor all this kerfluffll? I don’t care if it’s a mailing list (I can deal 
with ancient technology. I’m a retired geologist. Banging two rocks together is 
old school, but we still do it.) Mailing lists are fine. So are more modern 
things … like color monitors. I really don’t give a rodent’s derriere. If I 
need help, I want help. If someone else needs help I can give, I give it. In 
neither case do I care what format it takes, as long as I can read it and they 
can read it.

The fact is that people resist change. They don’t want to get out of their 
comfortable rut. I understand and sympathize. However, change is inevitable, 
and this is not change for its own sake. If the folks writing GIMP’s code are 
fine with it, that’s all I need to know. Change and adaptation are life. 
Anything else is death.

Change happens.

Adapt. Overcome. Or die. Having nearly done the latter three times, not 
counting near misses, I choose the two former. This debate is … absurd. Let’s 
get back to creating, whether it’s code or some other art form.

Ross


> On Oct 23, 2022, at 6:21 PM, Liam R E Quin  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 21:59 +0800, Bret Busby via gimp-user-list wrote:
>> 
>> The ending of support for gnome products, especially for The GIMP and
>> for gedit, is disappointing, 
> 
> It is untrue. There is no ending of support.
> 
> The mailing list is moving to Discourse, yes. You can interact with
> Discourse using email.
> 
> IRC, Discord, Mastodon, Twitter, continue to exist.
> 
> Gitlab issues continue to exist. There's even an official Facebook
> page.
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with the layout won’t let me do anything!

[Ross Martinek]

Please tell us what version of GIMP, and what OS you are running.

Ross


> On Jan 17, 2022, at 2:12 PM, Morzar Adam via gimp-user-list 
>  wrote:
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Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

[Ross Martinek]

Thank you, Cliff.

Some folks just don’t  understand that fiddling with a program is the way to 
learn it. Oh, sure, the for profit software can afford to hand the user a “how 
to” manual of greater or lesser worth. Not so with Gimp. This is a place to ask 
questions and get answers, not a place to berate and abuse the UNPAID 
developers, as someone (who shall remain forever nameless) has recently done. 
If you want a piece of software that will lead you by the hand through 
everything you want to do, BUY one, hope they wrote a decent manual, and RTFM. 
If you would prefer to use a freeware program like Gimp, fiddle, learn, ask 
questions, and file bug reports. Don’t abuse the programmers or the program. It 
may distract them, and annoys those of us who are trying to get something done, 
but are willing to help as we can.

And if the newer versions don’t work the way you like, use an older version. 
I’m still using Gimp 2.8.18—I understand how the things I need to do work, and 
working to a large product deadline is NOT a time to learn new, or revised 
technology. The best tool for the job is the one you know how to use.

Ross


> On Oct 19, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the root cause is
> people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my own
> satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options, and I've
> been able to reproduce all the issues that I've seen reported. As far as I
> can recall the issue was that the users were trying to change things in two
> places, in the on screen editor, and in the tool options. Changes in the on
> screen editor only apply to that box. Changes to the tool options apply to
> either the current box or the next box created. Changes to the current box
> are never (so far as I can make out) applied to the tool options. There is
> no hidden default. The tool options can be changed and are saved between
> sessions and the next time you open GIMP they will be the same as they were
> when you last shut down.
> 
> Cliff
> 
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 11:20 PM Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <
> gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 19/10/2021 07:36, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>> It has been described on the mailing list about ten times, and it keeps
>>> falling on deaf ear.  Try using it and see for yourself how it keeps
>>> defaulting to size 64 fonts and you can't force it to change accept by
>>> luck and seridipity.
>> 
>> 
>> Uh? To change the default font size, you change it in the tool options,
>> and then have the tool options saved in Preferences (for which there are
>> basically two strategies, saved options each time when you exit, or save
>> options once for all). You can also use tool presets...
>> 
>> Otherwise, "described in the mailing list" isn't the same as "reported
>> in the bug tracker".
>> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Mouse Becomes unresponsive with several tools

[Ross Martinek]

Is the mouse behaving erratically with any other application? Have you cleaned 
it recently? (Yes, optical mice need to be cleaned.)

Ross


> On Jul 28, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Leon13DM  wrote:
> 
> A few days ago, I noticed in GIMP, while using the Path tool, that my Mouse
> Wheel no longer moved the slider up and down. In addition, when I hovered my
> mouse pointer over the tool icons, they were not highlighted. I am able to
> restore functionality to GIMP by shaking my mouse cursor or clicking several
> times, though this is hampering my art abilities.
> 
> In addition, when using the Pencil or Erase tool, sometimes after using it, 
> the
> pixel location marker (which normally sticks by the mouse at all times on the
> canvas) gets stuck where it was last used, but my mouse cursor still moves 
> fine.
> clicking on the canvas again uses the tool normally and the marker moves to 
> the
> new position, but this also appears to be a Glitch.
> 
> This began with version 2.10.22. I downloaded and installed the latest 2.10.24
> version, and the glitch still persists. I do have two plugins installed: 
> Remove
> Small Tangents and Text Along Path, the first one is critical as I rely 
> heavily
> on paths. So should I try uninstalling those?
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Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination

[Ross Martinek]

Yes, I found the OP highly offensive—and I have disabilities. But GIMP is an 
acronym, pronounced and written “gimp.” That word, like so many others, is only 
offensive if INTENDED as such. “Smile when you say that!" The name of the 
program cannot be so intended, ergo no offense applies, or is even implied. If 
the program was an application for the use of those with physical disabilities, 
then, perhaps the OP would have a valid complaint. He, she, it, they, whatever, 
does not. The behavior was, indeed, passive aggressive—it was innuendo and 
contained an implied threat. Such behavior is entirely uncalled for.

Besides, referring to the program as “Gimp,” is entirely appropriate: It may 
limp along, at times and in some respects, but it keeps improving and manages 
to get the job done—just like some of us who refuse to let our disabilities get 
the better of us, and are not afraid or discouraged by calling them what they, 
and we, are.

Limpingly,

Ross


> On May 28, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 6:55 PM Ruben Safir  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Federico - as chairperson of the CoC Committee, and Board member.
>> 
>> Kill the secret communist style party organ to judge social credit
>> scores.
> 
> I guess I have to post a reminder after all.
> 
> https://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html
> 
> "Code of Conduct
> 
> Mailing lists are an important communication channel between
> contributors and users of GIMP. Therefore we urge you to follow the
> following common etiquette rules. Failure to observe them, or
> instructions from the moderators, may be grounds for reprimand,
> probation, or removal.
> 
> 1. Be considerate and respectful. Every email in our most popular
> mailing lists, gimp-user@ and gimp-developer@, will be read by ca.
> 1,000 subscribers and then aggregated to be seen by an even larger
> audience. Please make sure that you add value to the discussion, avoid
> repetitive arguments, flamewars, trolling, and personal attacks."
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10.22 on iMac

[Ross Martinek]

Not running Catalina yet, but I think I read somewhere that there is a work 
around for this. Check the Apple website support section, also ask on the Apple 
user’s forum.

Ross


> On Feb 20, 2021, at 10:36 AM, James Curione via gimp-user-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> I downloaded, and ran, Gimp 2.10.22 onto my iMAC wich has Catalina 10.15.7 
> installed.
> 
>> When I try to start Gimp I get the following message "GIMP-2.10” can’t be 
>> opened because Apple cannot check it for malicious software.”
> 
> 
> This software needs to be updated. Contact the developer for more information.
> 
> 
> Are there steps I need to take update Gimp or the Mac OS?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jim C
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Re: [Gimp-user] Citation

[Ross Martinek]

Yes, you should identify the software you used. Just select “About GIMP" from 
the GIMP Menu and copy the information in the window that opens, and give the 
main web site address. 

Just out of curiosity, what journal is it?

Ross


> On Jan 11, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Dave Stevens  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 18:25:43 -0500
> Julian Correa via gimp-user-list  wrote:
> 
>> I'm hoping I'm going this right as I'm not used to this mean of server
>> communication. How did I cite my use of gimp in a formal scientific
>> journal? Thanks
>> J
> 
> gimp isn't a source and you aren't quoting. Maybe give the version
> number? I don't really think it's an issue.
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty please!

[Ross Martinek]

Mark is correct. I was a Photoshop user for years. Now I use GIMP, which has 
some similarities, especially in superficial appearance, to PS. This causes 
problems for those who switch from one to the other. For example, the 
paintbrush tool would seem, at first, very similar in both apps, but it isn’t, 
and the differences will catch you.

The programs have some of the same capabilities, but they are implemented 
differently. Each has some capabilities, or better capabilities, than the 
other. 

What I would do is look at the manuals for each, concentrating on the 
capabilities you would need most, and making the comparison that way. For me, 
Adobe just got too greedy, and GIMP has all the capabilities I need. Perhaps 
that is the question you should ask: What capabilities that I need are best 
implemented in each program? No “review” you can read in less than an hour is 
likely to give you that.

The Book of GIMP, by LeCarme and Delvare, written for an earlier version than 
the current one, may be available in a local library, and if you are already 
familiar with PS, should provide you with a better idea of how GIMP handles 
things you want to do.

Ross


> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:17 AM, gimp-users.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
> 
> Δημήτρης Γιάννος via gimp-user-list wrote:
>>   Oh, I also forgot the part about Photoshop being available for Tablets
>> and phones. Could there be similar plans for GIMP?
> 
> There's an entry on the FAQ about the lack of Android/iOS support:
> https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#will-you-release-gimp-for-android-or-ios-devices
> 
> I can't really help with a comparison.  I only use GIMP occasionally, mostly 
> for fairly basic things, and have never used Photoshop.
> 
> I'd guess part of the problem with comparisons is that someone who uses 
> Photoshop all the time (so already has a license for it) can just download 
> GIMP for free, give it a go for a few hours and write a comparison.  But 
> they'd perceive GIMP as difficult to use because it's not the same as 
> Photoshop and they haven't got used to the differences. On the other hand, 
> someone who happily uses GIMP all the time, and is really familiar with all 
> its features, isn't so likely to pay for Photoshop just to compare it to 
> GIMP.  But if they did, they'd probably encounter similar difficulties with 
> Photoshop.  There may well be some reviews out there written by people who do 
> use both regularly and can make a fair comparison, but the difficulty would 
> be finding them (and knowing that you've found them!)
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] HUION 1060Pro+ cannot draw on gimp 2.8.20

[Ross Martinek]

What OS are you using?

Ross


> On May 4, 2020, at 12:37 PM, NicRule  wrote:
> 
> Sorry to post on such an old thread, but it's the first one I found that 
> solved
> my problem (which persists on the latest version of GIMP 2.10.18)
> NightFlower's Advice Works for the HUION H610, driver version 6.1.7600.16385
> (though I thought I had 12.3.7 installed, so I'm not sure) No idea on the
> 1060Pro+ sadly.
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Re: [Gimp-user] A problem

[Ross Martinek]

I’ve seen the same thing as Michael. However, at least in the Mac OS, my 
experience is that it’s a bad idea for two reasons:

1. It’s very easy to inadvertently rename, move, misplace, or delete a file. I 
only keep a few, generally temporary files on my desktop, files I intend to 
throw away when I’m done with them. Even so, I’ve managed to do all of these 
things at one time or another.

2. It seems that in the Finder (the real name and function of the so-called 
“desktop”) is really a kind of limbo as far as the computer’s file structure is 
concerned. The Mac OS is designed as a hierarchical file system, and should be 
used as such. When a file is stored on the desktop (i.e., the Finder), it is 
more likely to get lost in a crash or a disk problem. I have also experienced 
this first hand. This is also a particular problem if there are multiple user’s 
accounts.

Admittedly, other than inadvertent renaming, misplacing, or deletion, these 
problems tend to be rare. They do happen.

When files are transferred to a new computer, files on the desktop are more 
likely to be misplaced, or their address lost by the Finder, or corrupted. The 
icon my remain on the desktop, but the actual file location isn’t “known” by 
the Finder. The Mac OS is designed as a hierarchical file system, and should be 
used as such.

I think the best and easiest solution to the original problem is to restore the 
files from a backup. That was what I did when I had a similar problem. That was 
when someone with far more knowledge of the Mac interface, a developer, told me 
it was unwise to keep important files on the desktop.

Ross


> On Apr 4, 2020, at 2:11 AM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/3/20 11:11 PM, Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote:
> 
>> Maybe they did invent the desktop. But that doesn't answer my question. I
>> find it strange that anyone would store their photos on the desktop. Is
>> that a Mac thing?
> 
> Regardless of the platform, some people use the desktops as there main
> file and folder storage location - I've seen desktops spanning multiple
> screens, with icons everywhere, no free space left.
> 
> Other people use dedicated folders, sometimes even those the platform
> suggests for these tasks.
> 
> It's mostly personal choice, like e.g. replying above or below quoted
> text in mails :)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Is GIMP a knockoff of Photoshop?

[Ross Martinek via gimp-user-list]

There is one thing of which you may be ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN: Adobe is a very 
large corporation with a team of copyright lawyers on call, if not on staff. If 
GIMP was, in any way, a copy, those working on it would get a “cease and 
desist” order faster than you can type “copyright.” They have not.

And as a former Photoshop user who now uses GIMP exclusively, I can testify 
under oath that it is not a copy, by any so-called "definition.” Such 
definitions are entirely specious—or you can use the short form: 

Horse feathers! 

Sorry for the rant, but this sort of thing pisses me off.

Ross


> On Mar 6, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> We have a few entries in the FAQ that cover this topic starting here:
> 
> https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#are-you-trying-to-develop-a-photoshop-killer-app
> 
> Given how many people complain that we "don't just copy Photoshop", I
> dare say the suggested definition of a Photoshop knock-off falls flat
> on its face :)
> 
> Alex
> 
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:01 AM TheComputerGuy via gimp-user-list
>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm being told GIMP is a knockoff of Photoshop rather than an alternative 
>> because "it fits the definition". Is this true or not?
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Re: [Gimp-user] don't reply

[Ross Martinek via gimp-user-list]

Ditto what Rick said, and I’m still using 2.8! (The midst of a large project is 
no time to learn new technology—as I’ve proven countless times. I finally 
learned.)

Ross


> On Jun 28, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Rick Kline  wrote:
> 
> I, too, like GIMP. Still learning, but started using it when I was at work 
> and still using Photoshop, because some of the schools I did outreach with 
> couldn’t afford a P’shop license.
> 
> Thanks to all who have worked so hard, and continue to do so, to make GIMP 
> enjoyable.
> 
> Rick
> 
> p.s. If the original post was censored like a TV program, with a “beep” over 
> each expletive, it would have sounded like a truck backing up. ;-)
> 
> * * ** *** *  * * 
> It’s better to wave at a stranger than to ignore a friend
> * * ** *** *  * * 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2019, at 10:57 PM, Grandview Workshop via gimp-user-list 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well without the negativity, can I just say I like GIMP? It works just fine
>> for me, personally, I’d use it over Photoshop, because it is free, but
>> easier to understand.
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 6:23 PM Guy Stalnaker via gimp-user-list <
>> gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you. I appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> “Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end of
>>> human existence.”
>>> 
>>> ― Aristotle
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 6:20 PM Pat David via gimp-user-list <
>>> gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote:
>>> 
 I’m just concerned for you.
 
 On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 6:11 PM Pafh Pafh  wrote:
 
> What did you not understand about my previous email? Why do you keep
> writing me? Are you a fag?
> 
> On Friday, June 28, 2019, 04:05:30 PM MST, Pat David <
>>> patda...@gmail.com
> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> You realize you posted on a public mailing list?
> 
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 5:26 PM Pafh Pafh  wrote:
> 
> It was my bad for posting that last night. It was after 12 beers. How
>>> do
 I
> get you Gimp fanboys to stop emailing now? I unsubscribed from the list
 but
> I'm still receiving emails. Please leave me a lone. I have enough
 problems
> without you all.
> 
> On Friday, June 28, 2019, 03:11:02 PM MST, Pat David <
>>> patda...@gmail.com
> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hm.  Looks like it did exactly what you asked it to do.  Exactly how it
> should, given the options you've set. :)
> 
> Maybe this will help:
> https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html?single_app=photoshop
> 
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 1:10 AM Pafh Pafh via gimp-user-list <
> gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote:
> 
> I don't want to hear your idiotic reply, Gimp developers. You fucked me
> over, the first time I needed your competence in a time-critical
 situation.
> May your mothers burn in hell. Now I'll subscribe to Photoshop, you
> shit-eating mother fucks. Don't give me some shit about "you needed to
>>> do
> this instead". I'm not some fucking autist; I do what a normal
> c++-programmer would do, and when your program fails, it's your goddamn
> fault, not user-error. Fuck your whore mothers. Eat my shit. Let your
> mothers taste my shit.
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1S9e4Rem_t-RtURsZWG_vZBX2qngQumrY
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Re: [Gimp-user] I admit I'm an idiot

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Dear iDiot =^D

Hold down the Command key (the one with the small Celtic knot-like symbol.) to 
select the source area. The manual was written by 
Windows users. In Windon’t, you use the control key.

Translating from Windit to Macinese:

Windows “Control” key = Mac Command key
Windows “Alt” key = Mac Option key
Windows “Shift” key, strangely enough = Mac Shift key.


Ross


> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Mac McMahon via gimp-user-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’m a total amateur and only recently downloaded Gimp to my iMac, I’m trying 
> to use the clone and healing tools. I read the tutorial, saw that I’m 
> supposed to click on the area to be sourced while holding down the control 
> key. However when I do that a dialogue box opens up with a whole series of 
> further options , I quite frankly don’t know how to delete the box, or which 
> option to select. PLEASE HELP THIS IDIOT
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Re: [Gimp-user] help!!!

[Ross Martinek via gimp-user-list]

Dear iDiot =^D

Hold down the Command key (the one with the small Celtic knot-like symbol.) to 
select the source area. The manual was written by 
Windows users. In Windon’t, you use the control key.

Translating from Windit to Macinese:

Windows “Control” key = Mac Command key
Windows “Alt” key = Mac Option key
Windows “Shift” key, strangely enough = Mac Shift key.

Ross


> On Apr 24, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Mac McMahon via gimp-user-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’m a total amature and only recently downloaded Gimp to my iMac, I’m trying 
> to use the clone and healing tools. I read the tutorial, saw that I’m 
> supposed to click on the area to be sourced while holding down the control 
> key. However when I do that a dialogue box opens up next to the crosshair 
> with a whole series of further options , I quite frankly don’t know how to 
> delete the box, or which option to select. PLEASE HELP THIS IDIOT
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Re: [Gimp-user] Installing on Mac

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When you decompress the dmg file, what do you get, the program itself, a 
package, or an installer? It  should just be the program. Drag it into your 
applications folder, then launch it from there. If the system won’t let you, 
there’s a work around. Let me know.

Ross


> On Jan 30, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Mark Martin  wrote:
> 
> Yes, then I go to my security settings and say ok and it will open but not 
> install. So I have to run the dmg everytime. 
> 
> Mark Martin
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Ross Martinek  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you getting a message that says the software is from an unrecognized 
>> developer?
>> 
>> Ross
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Mark Martin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the dmg downloaded and it will run and open but not install on my
>>> MacBook Air, High Sierra. Any suggestions?
>>> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Installing on Mac

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Are you getting a message that says the software is from an unrecognized 
developer?

Ross


> On Jan 30, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Mark Martin  wrote:
> 
> I have the dmg downloaded and it will run and open but not install on my
> MacBook Air, High Sierra. Any suggestions?
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP user friendliness suggestion

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“Semantic issues” tend to be difficult. “Save as” in most applications I’ve 
used, is essentially both for saving as a file with a different name, and 
saving as a different type of file. GIMP breaks this into two (actually three, 
with the “overwrite” command) separate commands, which makes logical sense. 
Renaming “Open” to “Open/import” may well reduce the confusion for new users. 
(Yes, I know. But who RTFM before starting to use the program? I suspect most 
start using the program, referring to the manual when something doesn’t work as 
they expected. Considering what I’ve recently read about the state of GIMP 
documentation, the name change seems a good, simple “fix” for what is mostly a 
perceptual problem.

Ross


> On Nov 16, 2018, at 4:11 PM, Liam R E Quin  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2018-11-16 at 14:41 -0500, Steve Kinney wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Ultimately, Save vs. Export is just a semantic issue:
>> 
>> The GIMP "saves" image editing projects as XCF files, with all
>> layers,
>> channels, paths, etc. intact.  XCF is the GIMP's native file format.
>> 
>> The GIMP "exports" images from editing projects into flat file
>> formats
>> intended for display or print only, typically with some loss of
>> resolution compared to their XCF 'master' files.
> 
> i think one reason it's a problem is that it's asymmetric - you can
> "open" a JPEG or PNG file, rather than "import"ing one. Maybe renaming
> Open to Open/Import" would reduce the confusion, i'm not sure.
> 
> ankh
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] New to GIMP and out of my league

[Ross Martinek]

I second what Steve said. GIIMP is not PS. In fact, previous experience with PS 
is detrimental to learning GIMP, as I know from experience.

Something that might help is The Book of GIMP, Lecarme and Delvare. Somewhat 
dated, but worth every penny for the newcomer.

Ross
> On May 5, 2018, at 11:01 AM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 05/05/2018 03:04 AM, rich404 wrote:
>>> I'm trying to get the hang of this, but trying to follow the tutorials
>>> my screen looks nothing like what I see. If I start a project I get my
>>> picture, no toolboxes. Playing around I can get these up (attachment).
>>> I have I have GIMP 2.8 on windows 7. What do I need to do, Please and
>>> thanks?
>> 
>> Looks like you have been influenced by the **make-gimp-look-like-PS** 
>> brigade.
>> 
>> Set Gimp up this way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQz0zCyVFJU 4 min
> 
> Or this way:
> 
> http://pilobilus.net/gimp_tutorial.html
> 
> And bear in mind, it will take time to "get on top of" how this tool
> works.  In this respect the GIMP is no different from any professional
> graphics editor; miracles are possible but one must first become just a
> little bit of a wizard.  Practice does not make perfect, but it will be
> very well rewarded.
> 
> :D
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Re: [Gimp-user] What is the best Graphics Tablet for Beginners?

[Ross Martinek]

I’ve had very good luck with Huion tablets and Gimp.

Ross
> On Apr 9, 2018, at 3:57 PM, Ofnuts  wrote:
> 
> On 03/30/18 08:43, shengxue wrote:
>> I want to start a youtube animation channel(like swoozie, domics,etc) and
>> wondering what is the best graphic tablet for me. I have always drawn well 
>> but
>> have never done it digitally. I just want to start getting into it and see 
>> how
>> that goes. Therefore, I dont want to spend so much, my budget is < $90 Im 
>> stuck
>> between three options:
>> 
>> XP-PEN Star05-$69.89
>> https://www.amazon.com/Star05-Wireless-Graphics-Painting-Battery-free/dp/B01MAZ5FDL
>> 
>> Deco01-$59.99
>> https://www.amazon.com/10x6-25-Graphics-Battery-free-shortcut-pressure/dp/B077P6BQP7
>> 
>> StarG640-$29.99 :
>> https://www.amazon.com/StarG640-Ultrathin-Graphics-Battery-free-pressure/dp/B078YR2MTF
>> 
>> Which do you think is the best option for me? Thank you.
>> 
> The 8K pressure levels is suspicious in a cheap tablet. If there are there, 
> are they accurate? Gimp usually works best with Wacom tablets (Intuos or 
> Bamboo).
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Re: [Gimp-user] cannot get new brushes mac

[Ross Martinek]

In Sierra, the second path: /Users/{your_id}/Library/Application 
Support/GIMP/2.8/brushes

The easiest way to get there is from the Finder, top menu “Go” select “Home,”  
then Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.8/brushes.


Ross


> On Jan 21, 2018, at 3:14 AM, rich404  wrote:
> 
>> I have been trying to follow the tutorials, but have not had any luck.
>> I downloaded a new brush with a ending of .png.  I am running MacOS
>> Sierra.  I just downloaded GIMP and want to add some brushes.  I am
>> completely perplexed after trying to find files and such for the last
>> four hours.
>> I am not a super tech expert so do not know how to dig into code.  Is
>> there an easy way to do this?  I think I was able to export and change
>> them to .gbr and I thought I finally found a brushes folder to put
>> them in (they are in there), but nothing shows up on the main program.
>> 
>> Help!
> 
> A png is an image file and not a Gimp brush.
> 
> The Gimp brush types are something.vbr, something.gbr, something.gih and also
> some photoshop something.abr
> 
> There is an 'older' article here: worth reading for details
> http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/gimp-add-ons-types-installation-management
> 
> You can use your png as a temporary brush by copying (all or some) it. It then
> appears as the 'clipboard' brush - very first in the brushes dialogue.
> 
> As you found can also export the png as a Gimp .gbr brush, export to the Gimp
> profile brushes folder and it is saved for future use.
> 
> The Gimp docs on exporting:  https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-brushes.html
> 
> Gimp profile for a Mac:  (always baffles me as a linux user) 
> 
> /Users/{your_id}/Library/GIMP/2.8/brushes
> 
> or possibly /Users/{your_id}/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.8/brushes
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Beginner's questions about Gimp & Wacom on Linux for a kid-friendly setup

[Ross Martinek]

1) Yes, though sometimes I find the mouse a useful secondary input, and for 
some things a primary input. This is mostly a matter of what works for the 
individual.

2) I do have a touch sensitive pad, and I personally hate trying to use it as 
anything but a mouse. Again, this is personal preference. Let her try it, she’s 
young enough to be more adaptive in the learning process.

3) I love tablets with buttons, especially if they are programmable. I like 
them better than the buttons on the pen, but that may be a function of old, 
arthritic hands. ;-} The other advantage is that most people have two hands, 
the buttons give the off side hand something to do!

4) I absolutely recommend keyboard shortcuts, especially with a slower system, 
regardless of OS. Once learned, keyboard shortcuts, or tablet buttons, are 
significantly faster and more precise than hunting for a tool icon. I have two 
screens, and the toolboxes reside on the secondary screen to one side where 
they are out of the way. I only use them to adjust tool options. Most tool 
switching is done by tablet button, keyboard, and pen button.

In short, she’s young and adaptable. Help her experiment to find what works 
best for her.

I hope your daughter develops a life-long love of making art. Whether it 
becomes a career or not, it is one of the healthiest pursuits known to the 
species. Kudos to you for encouraging and supporting her. (Mine didn’t, to my 
great detriment.)

And happy Whatever-holiday-you-celebrate-if-any ;o>

Ross


> On Dec 18, 2017, at 3:45 AM, Simon Budig  wrote:
> 
> Hanno Zulla (a...@hanno.de) wrote:
>> my child draws (a lot).
> 
> yay!  :)
> 
>> 1) Wacom as a mouse?
>> 
>> Is it "normal" to have the wacom tablet double as the screen pointer
>> device? The default setup seems to be that the graphics tablet also
>> controls the mouse pointer on Linux.
>> 
>> I tried to find out if I can somehow setup the pen to be used in the
>> Gimp graphics window only, but while possible, this seems difficult to
>> do. Is the default setup also the desirable setup on Linux or if not,
>> what do I need to change?
> 
> Personally I always have the tablet also control the mouse pointer. That
> way you don't have to change input devices just to confirm the odd
> system dialog or something else. Also for GIMP you can then use the
> tablet to pick tools etc. from the palette (which you can also do via
> keyboard shortcuts of course, which is a sane option as well).
> 
> If you don't want to have this you can use the "xinput" tool to detach
> the wacom from the "virtual core pointer".
> 
>> 2) Different Wacom pointers?
>> 
>> The tablet driver creates four devices - the pen, the eraser, those were
>> easy to setup and work as expected. What about the other two options
>> offered, finger touch and pad? Should I disable them or what are their
>> use for a digital artist?
> 
> Well, try it. I don't have a touch sensitive tablet here, so I don't
> have any experience with that.
> 
> In the GIMP preferences you should enable the tablet (sub-)devices as
> extended input devices (or disable them - as you prefer). You then can
> have them configured to different tools, i.e. by using the respective
> input device to pick a tool from the toolbox it gets attached to it, and
> GIMP automatically switches when you change the tool. This is pretty
> fancy for the intuos-pens with their individual tool-ids, but it should
> work fine with the different tools from your tablet.
> 
>> 3) The Wacom buttons?
>> 
>> There are four buttons on the graphics tablet - by default they are used
>> as mouse clicks. Can I use the button to choose tools? If so, how should
>> I configure them for productive use within Gimp?
> 
> (sorry, can't help you there)
> 
>> 4) Wacom & Gimp - your workflow on Linux?
>> 
>> When you use Gimp with a Wacom tablet on Linux, what is your workflow,
>> what are your shortcuts?
>> 
>> How do you use the Gimp toolbox while using the Wacom pen - do you use
>> keyboard shortcuts or do you use the pen (as a mouse pointer, see
>> question 1) to access the toolbox and select your tools?
> 
> I recommend keyboard shortcuts. The basic tools are all available via
> single-stroke shortcuts. And as mentioned above I'd stick to the tablet
> controlling the core pointer as well, that makes it easier to control
> the other stuff that happens to pop up in Gimp from time to time. The
> wacom tablets typically are good for that kind of stuff, since the pen
> gets detected a few mm above the tablet, making it possible to preview
> where you're going to click.
> 
> I hope this helps,
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Re: [Gimp-user] How to Lock layers?

[Ross Martinek]

Finally!

Ross


> On Dec 14, 2017, at 5:47 PM, Ofnuts  wrote:
> 
> On 12/14/17 17:53, Maisie wrote:
>> How do you lock layers or a particular layer on Gimp?
>> 
>> I've searched youtube for this, watched several videos on basics of layers
>> (which is really time consuming), and the videos I watched didn't cover this
>> tiny piece of info I'm looking for
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
> If "lock" means prevent it from being moved, the answer is that there is no 
> such thing in 2.8, but AFAIK this has been added in 2.9.
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Re: [Gimp-user] No luck loading Gimp on MacBook Pro

[Ross Martinek]

This works on Sierra, might work on High Sierra:

(You can restore the ‘Anywhere’ option to Gatekeeper.)

While the reasoning may be understandable, helping to prevent nefarious apps 
that could include malware from running on your Mac, the end result is a bit 
draconian, since it can prevent you from running many Mac apps that are 
available from hobbyists, small-scale developers, or open source projects.

In previous versions of the Mac OS, you could set Gatekeeper to allow apps to 
run from the:

•   •  App Store

•   •  App Store and identified developers

•   •  Anywhere

The Anywhere option is missing from macOS Sierra, but you can re-enable the 
option with this simple Terminal trick.

Launch Terminal, located in your /Applications/Utilities folder.

Enter the following command at the Terminal prompt:

sudo spctl --master-disable   (Note that there is a double dash, not an 
em-dash, in front of “master."

Press enter or return.

You’ll be asked for the administrator password. Enter the password and press 
enter or return.

To verify that the Anywhere option has been restored:

Open System Preferences and select the Security & Privacy preference pane.

Select the General tab.

You’ll see that the Anywhere option is once again available.




Ross


> On Nov 21, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Nat Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Am using High Sierra, but Mac will not verify download no matter what I do.
> 
> Tried versions #18 & #22
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] cannot click anything in select menu

[Ross Martinek]

What OS and what version of GIMP?

Ross


> On Nov 5, 2017, at 4:18 PM, seebass  wrote:
> 
> I am unable to select any of the options in the drop down select menu. I can 
> use
> the keyboard functions for these but I am unable to select anything with my
> mouse. All other drop down menus work perfectly and all tool options work
> perfectly, Its only the select drop down menu that has an issue. Any ideas as 
> to
> what's happening? Everything was working fine yesterday.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Can't get Gimp to run on Mac OS 10.12.6

[Ross Martinek]

Eric, I think I recall posting the method for this to the forum if you don’t 
already know. IIRC, about a month ago.

Ross


> On Nov 2, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 27.09.2017 um 23:12 schrieb Eric Francis:
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Tried twice to load Gimp to my Mac but was told "Gimp can't be opened
>> because it is from an unidentified developer." Anyone out there running it
>> on MacOS who can help me out?
> 
> For the time being, you have to set up your system to allow unsigned
> applications.
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP name, icon and general graphic look

[Ross Martinek]

Alex,

I said I was an old curmudgeon. ;^] It’s only my opinion, based on my 
experience, not wisdom from on high, and while strongly held, I’ve no objection 
to being shown I’m in error, or that my conclusions aren’t supported by your or 
others’ data (as you did.)

If you are talking about my comments on documentation, I really do identify and 
sympathize with those creating this delightful tool: writing documentation of 
something one understands thoroughly is very difficult, in part because of the 
very expertise needed to do so. It often feels as if one is stating the 
blatantly obvious, over and over again. I have all too much experience with 
that, and the other frustrations inherent in the process.

I did not intend to denigrate the free, online documentation that exists, only 
to say that it could be better. If developers are going to work on something 
besides development, I think that is a better use of time. By comparison with 
other, similar, open source programs, GIMP’s  is better than many, if not most. 
It gets one off to a good start.

I hesitated to mention a commercial product which actually does a good job of 
documentation. I have found The Book of GIMP, by LeCarme and Delvare to be an 
invaluable resource in learning GIMP. It’s expensive, but the software is free, 
and the book costs far less than most graphics programs (or at least it did 
when I bought it.) (Shameless plug, and no, I don’t get anything for it.)

As for marketing, if that is a concern, the way Literature and Latte markets 
their products might be worth a look. Scrivener, their writing app, is 
phenomenal. It isn’t free, like GIMP, but it is very affordable. Would I pay 
the price of Scrivener for GIMP? As my physics prof was fond of saying, “That’s 
not only obvious, it’s an obvious, obvious.”

And Maurizio, I also appreciate your enthusiasm. I just think it’s slightly 
misplaced. Don’t let my stentorian objections discourage you.

Ross


> On Oct 22, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine 
> <alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Ross Martinek wrote:
> 
>> While there may be some PS features
>> not available (yet?) in GIMP, the only advantage of PS I see is its
>> documentation.
> 
> Ross, I appreciate your loyalty to the project, but you aren't making
> any friends right now :)))
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP name, icon and general graphic look

[Ross Martinek]

Alex,

I did apologize in advance for acerbidity (not a word ;^} ) And it’s just my 
strongly stated opinion. To me, anything that performs its function as well as 
the operator’s ability allows is a thing of beauty, regardless of what it looks 
like. (No, I’m not an engineer. =^D )

I like your attitude. As long as this is the way the developers see things, I 
see no problem.

It’s just that I have too much experience re-engineering (or back-engineering) 
things that were well designed, then ruined by the accountants and ad 
departments. I can’t do this with electronics or software—hence my 
apprehension. I’ve seen too many good things ruined by making them look “sexy,” 
or whatever, or by making them less functional for profit’s sake. At least the 
latter is not likely to be a problem here.

But I don’t think you can argue that our society pays far too much attention to 
appearance at the cost of substance. So being an old curmudgeon, when I see 
someone advocating improved appearance, it’s going to get a reaction—strongly 
stated, but civil, I hope. (I try not to make global warming any worse, but 
there are occasional episodes of localized, total atmospheric ionization …)

So a suggestion: Why not ask the users, or at least members of this list, 
rather than the developers, to produce the cosmetic enhancements. The users are 
artists of one sort or another. Here’s an opportunity to use their skills and 
talents to give back for some great, free software.

Ross


> On Oct 20, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine 
> <alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Ross Martinek wrote:
>> Okay, please forgive me if I get a little acerbic, but I’ve spent most of my
>> life fighting those who think appearance is more important than it is.
>> Appearance is, at best, completely, utterly, secondary to everything.
>> 
>> Function, on the other hand, is absolutely vital—to everything. When I meet
>> someone who says they aren’t good looking, I tell them “Real beauty is on
>> the inside, it comes from within. The outside is mere window dressing.”
>> 
>> So asking developers of some of the best graphics software to spend time
>> thinking about appearance, other than the user interface, is a complete,
>> utter waste of their time.
> 
> Wow, hold on :) I respectfully disagree.
> 
> First of all, we do care about the appearance of GIMP. In fact, we can
> be extremely opinionated about its appearance. Not that it was
> entirely in our power to make great illustrations and suchlike (with
> few exceptions).
> 
> Secondly, this is a users mailing list. The idea is that people who
> lurk here are of artistic persuasion :) That makes it a good enough
> place to discuss this to _me_.
> 
>> Worried about “branding”? GIMP is free. It is “sold” because it works, and
>> works very well. Its beauty comes from within. It doesn’t need a flashy ad
>> campaign. It doesn’t need to look professional—it is professional and anyone
>> who looks past the exterior knows it.
> 
> uncapable software + bad visuals = no go
> 
> uncapable software + good visuals = might work, but not for long
> 
> capable software + bad visuals = underestimated by potential users
> 
> capable software + good visuals = world domination proceeds as planned
> 
> What's so bad about good visuals then? Yeah, in-house VFX apps can be
> ugly as sin while doing the job, but that's hardly something to brag
> about, no?
> 
> The project could do with some visual refreshing (somewhat covered in
> upcoming 2.10). The nature and the scope of the refresh is a perfectly
> sensible topic to discuss, in my opinion.
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP name, icon and general graphic look

[Ross Martinek]

Okay, please forgive me if I get a little acerbic, but I’ve spent most of my 
life fighting those who think appearance is more important than it is. 
Appearance is, at best, completely, utterly, secondary to everything.

Function, on the other hand, is absolutely vital—to everything. When I meet 
someone who says they aren’t good looking, I tell them “Real beauty is on the 
inside, it comes from within. The outside is mere window dressing.”

So asking developers of some of the best graphics software to spend time 
thinking about appearance, other than the user interface, is a complete, utter 
waste of their time.

Worried about “branding”? GIMP is free. It is “sold” because it works, and 
works very well. Its beauty comes from within. It doesn’t need a flashy ad 
campaign. It doesn’t need to look professional—it is professional and anyone 
who looks past the exterior knows it.

GIMP is a tool that can be used to create artistic beauty, which is the only 
place appearance is important.

Put simply, I don’t care if the tool is uglier than mortal sin if it does the 
job well. Form follows function—about a light year behind. 

As for Wilbur, I, too, thought he looked a bit silly at first. Now I love the 
sight of him. He isn’t merely a mascot, or a logo. He’s an Icon, as in 
“Cultural Icon.” Put another way: “If you don’t use GIMP, you’re too wealthy to 
call yourself an artist!” (You’re supposed to laugh, here. It’s a play on the 
iconic “starving artist.")

Stop fussing about what the paint brush looks like. Go thou and create 
something beautiful.

Ross


> On Oct 20, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Maurizio Paglia  wrote:
> 
> Ciao Alex and thank you for your prompt reply!
> 
> 2017-10-20 15:38 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Prokoudine <
> alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com>:
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Maurizio Paglia wrote:
>> 
>>> 2. ICON - I do not like GIMP icon. I think GIMP should have a new icon
>>> containing the letter 'G'. The 'G' icon will be more modern,
>> identifiable,
>>> and will integrate better in modern flat/minimal desktop environment.
>> 
>> You mean we should replace the unique Wilber logo with general 'G'
>> letter to make it more identifiable?
>> 
> 
> Wilber is not a logo.
> A logo is unique and do not change.
> Wilber appears in several flavours (thinking, joking, with a helmet/hat,
> etc.). Wilber acts like a mascot.
> I think GIMP needs a more modern logo that could be the word GIMP written
> in a particular way, and the 'G' can be used as GIMP icon (for the
> launcher).
> 
>> 
>>> 3. SPLASH - It could sound strange but splash is incredibly attractive
>> for
>>> a lot of users and - in any case - it is the software intro. I think GIMP
>>> needs a more professional/modern/abstract splash. Moreover please keep
>> away
>>> Wilber and put the 'G' icon instead.
>> 
>> You are judging splash screens by the ones we have for development
>> versions. But we don't use those for stable versions at all. Splash
>> screens for stable versions are exactly that: abstract. See for
>> yourself: https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/stable.html.
>> 
> 
> Oh... yes, you are right. Sorry :-(
> But I confirm the need to always put in the splash the GIMP logo/icon
> 
>> 
>>> 4. UI - I think Wilber should disappear from GIMP GUI (error/messages
>>> windows, etc.) and new modern icons to be used.
>>> 
>>> Wilber, in particular, should remain as the GIMP mascot, nothing else.
>>> Like KDE Konqi, the mascot appears on the website, etc. but its role is
>>> always clear: it is a mascot and is never used in the UI where clear and
>>> minimal icons are used instead.
>>> 
>>> What do you think about this dress change?
>> 
>> Identity loss, followed by the existential crisis? :)
>> 
> 
> Please apologize but I cannot understand this comment.
> Do you think change logo/icon will be an identity loss?
> I think a well done logo will have a big impact on people.
> Moreover I think a modern/minimal logo is more suitable for a software.
> In my opinion Wilber is too much 'vintage' and a little 'childlike'.
> Let's keep Wilber as a mascot (also to remember GIMP roots, why not) but
> GIMP needs a new logo.
> 
>> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] What have I installed?

[Ross Martinek]

Look at the name of the .dmg file you downloaded. It will tell you what 
version: e.g., gimp-2.8.20-x86_64.dmg. The last two digits after the underscore 
and before the extension are the bit version.

Ross


> On Sep 24, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Ofnuts  wrote:
> 
> On 09/20/17 11:45, Peter Wadeson wrote:
>> I have installed version 2.8.22 of GIMP on an iMac running MacOS Sierra.
>> 
>>  
>> The GIMP web site suggests that either 32 or 64 bit software will be 
>> installed depending on the MacOS of the machine.
>> 
>>  
>> Is there any way of finding out which version has actually been installed? 
>> Either 32 or 64 bit.
>> 
>>  
> 
> Some system utility can tell you the "bitness" of the Gimp executable. On 
> Linux this would be the "file" command:
> 
> >file /usr/bin/gimp-2.8
> /usr/bin/gimp-2.8: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), 
> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 
> 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=0d7d1efafc28d041a904a773cf3cb9e1b2532743, stripped
> 
> "file" is part of Unix since 1973 so it possibly exists on OSX.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Huion tablets compatibility check request

[Ross Martinek]

Does this work on a Mac? I don’t recall GIMP recognizing the Huion tablet and 
stylus in that dialog, though they seem to work well except for this default.

Ross


> On Aug 3, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Richard <strata_ran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> About the only people who can truly help you are those running GIMP (similar 
> version) on Windows (preferably 10) with a same/similar brand tablet as yours 
> ... and there probably aren't many on this list who do.  That leaves the rest 
> of us just guessing at answers...
> 
> For starters, GIMP is indeed configured to have the stylus pen assigned to 
> Airbrush and the stylus eraser assigned to Eraser by default, both of which 
> are separate from the tool associated with the core mouse pointer 
> (Paintbrush, I think).  This IS configurable, however ... under Edit > 
> Preferences > Input Devices, you can allow GIMP to save the device->tool 
> mappings upon exit or you can manually save them so it will start with your 
> preferred tools per device.
> 
> -- Stratadrake
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> 
> Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.
> From: gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org 
> <mailto:gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org>> on behalf of Ross Martinek 
> <triariu...@gmail.com <mailto:triariu...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 12:28:29 PM
> To: torba
> Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org <mailto:gimp-user-list@gnome.org>; 
> notificati...@gimpusers.com <mailto:notificati...@gimpusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Huion tablets compatibility check request
>  
> Glad I didn’t update beyond 2.8.18.
> 
> You didn’t mention what OS you use. This would be useful for diagnostics, and 
> so it could be determined whether this was a Windows, Mac, or Linux problem.
> 
> I’m on a Mac, OS 10.12.6, running Huion driver V11.1.8. Works fine with GIMP 
> 2.8.18. It would be a disaster if I upgraded and suddenly couldn’t use the 
> tablet.
> 
> In my configuration, GIMP always wants to see the pen set as airbrush at 
> startup. I usually have to select another tool three times before it takes. 
> Thereafter it’s fine.
> 
> Ross
> 
> 
> > On Jul 29, 2017, at 4:49 AM, torba <for...@gimpusers.com 
> > <mailto:for...@gimpusers.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > With recent versions of Gimp I'm experiencing problems with my Huion h610pro
> > tablet.
> > Clicking on canvas makes a single mark but dragging the stylus doesn't move 
> > the
> > cursor at all.
> > Tools that use single clicks work without problems.
> > The last version of Gimp that works fine is 2.8.18.
> > Is this something that the Gimp team could look into for future patches?
> > I really like the new additions in 2.8.22 and I'm bummed out that I have to 
> > miss
> > out on these.
> > 
> > My huion driver is a custom version of v11.
> > 
> > 
> > There's also another problem - often the tool changes when the stylus 
> > touches
> > the tablet. Sometimes it's enough to cycle through a few tools and the 
> > choice
> > sticks.
> > 
> > PS:
> > I already posted here:
> > http://www.gimpusers.com/mailmsg.php?88192%40forums.gimpusers.com 
> > <http://www.gimpusers.com/mailmsg.php?88192%40forums.gimpusers.com>
> > so feel free to remove this post if necessary.
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Huion tablets compatibility check request

[Ross Martinek]

Glad I didn’t update beyond 2.8.18.

You didn’t mention what OS you use. This would be useful for diagnostics, and 
so it could be determined whether this was a Windows, Mac, or Linux problem.

I’m on a Mac, OS 10.12.6, running Huion driver V11.1.8. Works fine with GIMP 
2.8.18. It would be a disaster if I upgraded and suddenly couldn’t use the 
tablet.

In my configuration, GIMP always wants to see the pen set as airbrush at 
startup. I usually have to select another tool three times before it takes. 
Thereafter it’s fine.

Ross


> On Jul 29, 2017, at 4:49 AM, torba  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> With recent versions of Gimp I'm experiencing problems with my Huion h610pro
> tablet.
> Clicking on canvas makes a single mark but dragging the stylus doesn't move 
> the
> cursor at all.
> Tools that use single clicks work without problems.
> The last version of Gimp that works fine is 2.8.18.
> Is this something that the Gimp team could look into for future patches?
> I really like the new additions in 2.8.22 and I'm bummed out that I have to 
> miss
> out on these.
> 
> My huion driver is a custom version of v11.
> 
> 
> There's also another problem - often the tool changes when the stylus touches
> the tablet. Sometimes it's enough to cycle through a few tools and the choice
> sticks.
> 
> PS:
> I already posted here:
> http://www.gimpusers.com/mailmsg.php?88192%40forums.gimpusers.com
> so feel free to remove this post if necessary.
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Sierra

[Ross Martinek]

Yes, they do.

Ross


> On Jun 8, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
> 
> On 06/04/2017 06:28 PM, Linda Newton wrote:
> 
>> Getting ready to download GIMP, but not seeing
>> the option for Mac Sierra...what to do?
> 
> Does there have to be a special option for macOS Sierra? IIRC the
> current packages work just fine on this version of the platform.
> 
> 
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[Gimp-user] Layers in a file not showing up in the Layers tab.

[Ross Martinek]

I have an .xcf file that is supposed to contain some 300 layers. However, today 
when I opened it, it says the file has the correct number of layers, but the 
Layers tab is grayed or blued out, and none of the layers appear.The file was 
fine when I worked on it yesterday. Opening a backup file has the same result.

Does anyone have an idea why this happened, and what can be done to fix it? Is 
this a problem with GIMP or is the file corrupt?

Thanks!

Ross


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[Gimp-user] Layers in an .xcf file not showing in the Layers tab

[Ross Martinek]

 have an .xcf file that is supposed to contain some 300 layers. However, today 
when I opened it, it says the file has the correct number of layers, but the 
Layers tab is grayed or blued out, and none of the layers appear.The file was 
fine when I worked on it yesterday. Opening a backup file has the same result.

Does anyone have an idea why this happened, and what can be done to fix it? Is 
this a problem with GIMP or is the file corrupt?

Thanks!

Ross


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP access on Mac

[Ross Martinek]

Yep, forgot about that one. ;-)

Ross


> On Feb 28, 2017, at 11:57 AM, ugajin <uga...@zoho.com> wrote:
> 
> A better way (if I remember correctly) is to right click on Gimp.app and 
> select open from the context menu. You will then get a warning dialogue 
> asking if you want to open the app (or not). Slelect Open to launch app.
> 
>  On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:45:39 + Ross Martinek <triariu...@gmail.com> 
> wrote  
> Open "System Preferences,” (Apple menu if you don’t have the icon in your 
> dock.) click on the "Security & Privacy" icon. In the “General" pane, there 
> should be a lock icon at the bottom. Click on that icon, type in your 
> administrator password if requested. This will allow you to make changes in 
> the panel. In the “Allow apps downloaded from:” section, select “Anywhere.” 
> Close the “Preferences" panel, open GIMP. The system now knows this app is 
> okay to open. Go back into "System Preferences," “General" panel, and change 
> the allowed apps section back to “Mac App Store and identified developers.”
> 
> Ross
> 
> 
> > On Feb 27, 2017, at 7:58 PM, poemystic <for...@gimpusers.com 
> > <mailto:for...@gimpusers.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > I've tried to download GIMP both ways, but have been blocked by this Apple
> > message: ""GIMP.app can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified
> > developer.Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from 
> > the App
> > Store and identified developers."
> > 
> > Contradictorily, I also got this message: “GIMP.app” is on the disk image
> > “gimp-2.8.20-x86_64.dmg”. Safari downloaded this disk image today at 8:16 PM
> > from www.gimp.org."
> > 
> > Two GIMP URL are listed on my Downloads, neither of which will open,
> > and neither is listed in my applications.
> > 
> > I have Mac Sierra.
> > 
> > Can you please help me? I’ve been using GIMP for years on PC, which I have
> > abandoned because of serious corruption issues with Windows 10.
> > 
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP access on Mac

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Open "System Preferences,” (Apple menu if you don’t have the icon in your 
dock.) click on the "Security & Privacy" icon. In the “General" pane, there 
should be a lock icon at the bottom. Click on that icon, type in your 
administrator password if requested. This will allow you to make changes in the 
panel. In the “Allow apps downloaded from:” section, select “Anywhere.” Close 
the “Preferences" panel, open GIMP. The system now knows this app is okay to 
open. Go back into "System Preferences," “General" panel, and change the 
allowed apps section back to “Mac App Store and identified developers.”

Ross


> On Feb 27, 2017, at 7:58 PM, poemystic  wrote:
> 
> I've tried to download GIMP both ways, but have been blocked by this Apple
> message: ""GIMP.app can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified
> developer.Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from the 
> App
> Store and identified developers."
> 
> Contradictorily, I also got this message: “GIMP.app” is on the disk image
> “gimp-2.8.20-x86_64.dmg”. Safari downloaded this disk image today at 8:16 PM
> from www.gimp.org."
> 
> Two GIMP URL are listed on my Downloads, neither of which will open,
> and neither is listed in my applications.
> 
> I have Mac Sierra.
> 
> Can you please help me? I’ve been using GIMP for years on PC, which I have
> abandoned because of serious corruption issues with Windows 10.
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] changing the brush sizes

[Ross Martinek]

Thanks, Steve. They probably don’t fit my work, but the insight to your setup 
is quite valuable. The brushes in GIMP are probably it’s most confusing aspect, 
especially to relative tyros, or those switching from APS.

Ross


> On Dec 14, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
> 
> On 12/13/2016 03:33 PM, mehjg wrote:
>> I want to be able to edit my brushes and save them, using the appropriate 
>> dialog
>> box, but no matter what I do, the size doesn't change. I can change the
>> hardness, angle, aspect ratio, etc., but the size just won't change, whether
>> using the bracket keys or the radius slider. I'm not using a mouse and I 
>> don't
>> want to try using the track pad's scroll function to change the size of the
>> brush because I use it to scroll. Any suggestions?
>> Thanks,
>> Matthew
> 
> I have a comprehensive (for me) solution to the Brush Size (and
> Hardness) Question.
> 
> First, note that there are two major classes of GIMP brush:  GBR brush
> files are bitmaps, fixed in size and hardness.  VBR brush files are
> vectors, with variable size and hardness that can be changed "on the
> fly" with keyboard + mouse commands while using the brushes.
> 
> Here's a set of VBR brushes I made; they cover over 90% of my own uses
> for brush tools in the GIMP; I named them to assure that they appear at
> the top of the list in the Brushes dialog:
> 
> http://pilobilus.net/xfer/Variable-Brushes.zip
> 
> Drop them into your /brushes folder, and viola.
> 
> Preview:
> 
> http://pilobilus.net/xfer/brushes.png
> 
> The oval ones are good for getting into tight spaces.
> 
> Now about that "change size and hardness on the fly" part:
> 
> Go to Edit > Preferences > Input Controllers and double click on Main
> Mouse Wheel to bring up the configuration dialog. Picture worth thousand
> words (or at least a hundred or so):
> 
> http://pilobilus.net/img/mouse-scale-brush.jpg
> 
> I also configure the GIMP to make the current brush "softer" or "harder"
> - that is, more or less fuzzy around the edge - in response to holding
> down Ctrl + Shift + Alt and scrolling the mouse wheel up and down.
> Controlling brush size and hardness with the mouse wheel is way more
> efficient than constantly switching between brushes. These settings can
> be found in the same menu as above.
> 
> These brushes and settings save enough stress and hassle in one editing
> project to way more than justify the time and effort it takes to
> configure them.  Then you have them "forever" or at least as long as
> your present GIMP installation is in place.
> 
> :o)
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Help With OSX El Capitan

[Ross Martinek]

This is normal the first time launching GIMP with OS 10.11.6. After that it 
should be much faster unless you are loading a very large file. I just launched 
GIMP—5 seconds. Loading one of my 16MB files takes 30 seconds. May take a bit 
longer on a 2008 MacBook Pro, mine is mid 2010.

Ross


> On Dec 2, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Jollymath  wrote:
> 
>> This is probably just GIMP taking a long time to load fonts, which
>> does
>> happen after up-grading the OS.
>> It hasn't actually crashed, even though the window greys-out and OSX
>> might
>> complain that GIMP is not responding, the font loading is still going
>> on
>> and you just need to be patient.
>> Another user has recently been through the same thing with OSX 10.11
>> as
>> reported here:
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756092
>> The real problem is the ridiculous number and size of fonts which are
>> being
>> included with Windoze and OSX nowadays.
>> 
>> The usual advice given on the forums now is just to start Gimp running
>> and
>> then leave it alone - don't even touch the keyboard or the mouse, just
>> get
>> up, walk away and go do something else for at least an hour. (Yes,
>> really!)
>> When you come back, Gimp will probably be up and running and you will
>> then
>> have no further problems.
>> 
>> Having said that, we don't actually know how long it does take on OSX
>> 10.11. So, if you have the patience, perhaps you could actually keep
>> an eye
>> on your computer while GIMP is loading the first time (read the
>> newspaper
>> or something) and hopefully tell us approximately how long it does
>> take
>> ..is it 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 20 minutes, longer ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:07 PM, kelly wheelhouse <
>> kelly.wheelho...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> My 2008 MacBook Pro just loaded up taking about ten minutes to load fonts!
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Reply vs. New message and Interface control

[Ross Martinek]

You didn’t highjack a thread, I made a mistake and thought you had, and sent 
you an apology. My bad.

If you have a question, just post it to the list with a subject line that is 
specific but succinct. You will probably get a reply, but there is no 
guarantee—someone who knows the answer has to see the question.The folks here 
are pretty supportive. You should get an email with their reply. At least with 
some mail clients, you should “Reply all” when answering a post.

As for your question on controlling the interface:

First, GIMP allows you to assign specific key commands to most of it’s 
functions. In your first example, pressing Command (Control) L shows  the layer 
panel if it’s not visible. This will only work for single commands. In your 
second example, you would have to press a separate key combination for each 
operation, either making the mask active or creating a new one. As far as I 
know, you can assign the function keys to any command.

I also know that there are python (I think, haven’t programmed since FORTRAN) 
scripts written to do specialized tasks, and these can be incorporated into 
GIMP.

Hope this helps. If you need more help with this, I suggest reposting the 
question since I muddled things when you first posted it.

Ross


> On Sep 26, 2016, at 12:23 AM, John Smith <j.smith.ima...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Ross,
> 
> Now I am confused.
> 
> As I understand it I sent a new message on the mailing list with a 
> “Controlling the interface through scripts” object.
> 
> Then I received a message from you telling me I should post a new message 
> instead of highjacking another thread. Then I received another message saying 
> that I did more or less the right thing and it was someone else mistake.
> 
> So what exactly should I do to have answers to my question? Post a new 
> message to the list with another object line? Did my original message get 
> highjacked somewhere among the line?
> 
> As I understand it I should write a message to the list: 
> gimp-user-list@gnome.org <mailto:gimp-user-list@gnome.org> with a “Scripting 
> in GIMP," object. Is that correct?
> 
> 
> 
> Cordialement, 
> 
> John
>  <http://johnsmithimages.net/> <http://johnsmithimages.net/>
> 
> http://johnsmithimages.net <http://johnsmithimages.net/>
> 
> 2016-09-25 22:17 GMT+02:00 Ross Martinek <triariu...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:triariu...@gmail.com>>:
> Okay, I see what happened. When John’s original message appeared in my inbox, 
> I must have misread the subject, or read the subject line for an adjacent 
> email, probably because I was wearing my trifocals instead of the wide-field 
> bifocals I usually wear for computer work.
> 
> John, I’m sorry if I added to your confusion and apologize. The 
> misunderstanding is entirely mine and my fault.
> 
> Ross
> 
> 
> > On Sep 25, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Michael Schumacher <schum...@gmx.de 
> > <mailto:schum...@gmx.de>> wrote:
> >
> > Am 25.09.2016 um 18:06 schrieb Ross Martinek:
> >
> >> That’s weird. No idea how that happened. I just hit “Reply all” as usual.
> >
> > I was referring to John's message.
> >
> >
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Re: [Gimp-user] Reply vs. New message

[Ross Martinek]

Okay, I see what happened. When John’s original message appeared in my inbox, I 
must have misread the subject, or read the subject line for an adjacent email, 
probably because I was wearing my trifocals instead of the wide-field bifocals 
I usually wear for computer work.

John, I’m sorry if I added to your confusion and apologize. The 
misunderstanding is entirely mine and my fault.

Ross


> On Sep 25, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Michael Schumacher <schum...@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> Am 25.09.2016 um 18:06 schrieb Ross Martinek:
> 
>> That’s weird. No idea how that happened. I just hit “Reply all” as usual.
> 
> I was referring to John's message.
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Reply vs. New message (was: Re: Controlling the interface through scripts)

[Ross Martinek]

That’s weird. No idea how that happened. I just hit “Reply all” as usual.

Ross


> On Sep 25, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Michael Schumacher <schum...@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> Am 25.09.2016 um 17:17 schrieb Ross Martinek:
> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Please repost this as a separate post. I suggest the subject: “Scripting in 
>> GIMP," rather than as a reply to this thread.
> 
> Hi Ross,
> 
> I don't see any sign of this being a reply in John's message - i.e. no
> References: or In-Reply-To: headers.
> 
> It doesn't appear as a reply in any thread, but starts a new one.
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Controlling the interface through scripts

[Ross Martinek]

John,

Please repost this as a separate post. I suggest the subject: “Scripting in 
GIMP," rather than as a reply to this thread. You’ll get more and better 
responses

BTW: Posting a different topic question to an existing thread is called 
“thread-jacking” and considered bad form.

Ross


> On Sep 25, 2016, at 1:47 AM, John Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> 
> I am considering moving from Photoshop to The Gimp entirely.
> 
> I found answers for most of my concerns but there is still one point that
> worries me.
> 
> 
> Am I able to write scripts doing something like below.
> 
> if (keypressed=f7)
> 
> {
> 
> if(layerpalette.isVisible){
> 
> layerpalette.hide
> 
> }else(layerpalette.show)
> 
> }
> 
> 
> I mean can I access the interface and control it through scripts? The idea
> of the “script” above is to build a toggle to hide and show the layer
> palette by pressing the f7 key.
> 
> 
> Another example:
> 
> if(keypressed=f3){if(activelayer.layermask.exists){activelayer.layermask.select}else{activelayer.layermask.add}
> }
> 
> If the f3 key is pressed, if there is a layer mask on the active layer it
> should be activated and if not an empty layer mask should be added and
> activated.
> 
> 
> Is it possible to do things like that with the Gimp 2.8x?
> 
> Cordialement,
> 
> John
>  
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Error in opening psd files

[Ross Martinek]

Thanks for jogging my memory. I think what I was thinking is that Adobe had 
color palettes based on those catalogs, intended to produce printed colors that 
matched the catalog. Like I said, it’s been a long time.

Ross


> On Sep 23, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine 
> <alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Ross Martinek wrote:
> 
>> Sorry my memory of it is no better. It was at least two decades ago
>> that I last had to deal much with different color standards. Steve Kinney
>> posted that PS uses LAB, which fits my memories, but I seem to recall
>> there were one or two others available, at least for printing.
> 
> You were probably referring to Pantone and Hexachrome. None of those
> spot color catalogs are related to Adobe. None of them are color
> models :)
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Error in opening psd files

[Ross Martinek]

No longer have a copy of Photoshop—I just remember the manual talking about it, 
and that they seemed to have several different color standards available.

Sorry my memory of it is no better. It was at least two decades ago that I last 
had to deal much with different color standards. Steve Kinney posted that PS 
uses LAB, which fits my memories, but I seem to recall there were one or two 
others available, at least for printing.

And regardless of whether you use RGB or LAB, printing will be CYMK. IIRC (and 
I may not) LAB is closer to CYMK.

Ross


> On Sep 23, 2016, at 4:03 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine 
> <alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Ross Martinek wrote:
>> PS has a number of different color standards (some Adobe’s proprietary 
>> materials)
> 
> Any examples?
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Error in opening psd files

[Ross Martinek]

PS has a number of different color standards (some Adobe’s proprietary 
materials)  that it can use in addition to the standard variations of HSI, RGB, 
and CYMK. I’m not sure how GIMP handles this, as it hasn’t come up in what I’m 
doing. When you export the files from PSD, make sure you are using a color 
space that is supported by GIMP.

Ross


> On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:48 PM, enzoorsi  wrote:
> 
>> I think the clipping mask is the problem. Can you go back into PS and
>> remove the clipping mask in the original file? That might solve the
>> problem.
>> 
>> Other than that, I’m at a loss. Hopefully one of the real gurus will
>> chime in on this.
>> 
>> Ross
> 
> Thank you very much!! It worked!!
> 
> But now in GIMP the colors seem different from Photoshop when I am exporting 
> in
> PNG/JPEG :(
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Re: [Gimp-user] Error in opening psd files

[Ross Martinek]

I think the clipping mask is the problem. Can you go back into PS and remove 
the clipping mask in the original file? That might solve the problem.

Other than that, I’m at a loss. Hopefully one of the real gurus will chime in 
on this.

Ross


> On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:29 AM, enzoorsi  wrote:
> 
>> Did you use the “Open as layers” command? GIMP will open a psd file
>> with the simple “Open” command but this may result in the error
>> message you get.
>> 
>> I had a similar problem when converting from PS to GIMP, but I seem to
>> recall using this command solved it.
>> 
>> Ross
> 
> Unfortunately even with "Open layers" I get that error :(
> The file has been produced with Photoshop, I can open with Gimp but layers are
> wrongly shown.
> I saw that the problem is with those layers on which in Photoshop has been
> created a "clipping mask"...
> Any idea? :(
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Re: [Gimp-user] Error in opening psd files

[Ross Martinek]

Did you use the “Open as layers” command? GIMP will open a psd file with the 
simple “Open” command but this may result in the error message you get.

I had a similar problem when converting from PS to GIMP, but I seem to recall 
using this command solved it.

Ross


> On Sep 18, 2016, at 4:20 PM, enzoorsi  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Sorry if the topic is obvious but i could not find any answer:
>> On opening psd files with gimp, i always get the error "the layer mask
>> is partly outside the layer boundary.The mask Will be cropped which
>> may in data loss." , which results in losing one or several layers. Is
>> there a way to fix this ?
> 
> Hi,
> I am having the same trouble...no idea how to open it properly in GIMP due to
> this error :(
> Did you solve it somehow?
> 
> Thank you!!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Not moving layers

[Ross Martinek]

No lock symbol next to the layer in the Layer dialog. I can lock the pixels of 
the layer, or the alpha channel, but not the layer itself.

Ross


> On Aug 19, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Owen Cook <owen.c...@gmx.com> wrote:
> 
> There is a Lock symbol next to the layer in the layer dialog.
> 
> Does that work for you?
> 
> When I accidentally move a layer, I do a Ctrl+Z and then make sure the select 
> tool is on "Move selected layer"
> 
> 
> 
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> On 20/08/2016, 3:58 AM Ross Martinek <triariu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there any way to lock a layer so that it cannot be inadvertently moved 
> while working on it?
> 
> Ross
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[Gimp-user] Not moving layers

[Ross Martinek]

Is there any way to lock a layer so that it cannot be inadvertently moved while 
working on it?

Ross


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Re: [Gimp-user] Slow performance of GIMP with OS X Version 10.11.6

[Ross Martinek]

We need to know more detail about your Mac and OS. What processor, how much 
RAM, size of hard drive or SSD, etc. Also what version of GIMP are you running, 
with what add ons?

Ross


> On Aug 10, 2016, at 7:48 PM, Jürgen Faulborn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> With my new Mac the performance is much worse than with my old (and defect) 
> Windows 7 PC, soo slowly!
> Can any one explain this?
> 
> Regards
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Cropping

[Ross Martinek]

Look for the tool icon that looks like a large X-acto blade knife. Click and 
drag in the picture to select the part you want. Once you release the mouse 
button, the edges and corners of the selected area are click-and-drag-able for 
fine adjustment. Hit enter when satisfied to accept changes. Then choose “File” 
menu, “Overwrite ” which will replace the original (NOT 
UNDOABLE!) or “File” menu, “Export as …” and choose your options and locations 
in the resulting dialog.

Ross


> On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Marvin Winitsky  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Experts,
> 
> I just learned how to drag a photo into the main editing screen in GIMP (for 
> Mac), but now, I need to know (step-by-step) how to crop the picture’s edges, 
> save the changes, and return the finished product to my photo folder on my 
> Mac. Can someone please explain/show me how to do this without too much 
> technical detail? I’d be most grateful.
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Changing the brush sizes

[Ross Martinek]

Tool Options dialog/Size—should be the first item after brush identification, 
second overall.

Ross


> On Jun 13, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Jim Horrocks  wrote:
> 
> How do you change the sizes of a brush? I knew but have been away from gimp
> for a little while and my memory not so good, now I can't remember what it
> is. Looking forward to hearing from the helpful users of gimp. I'm using 2.8
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Re: [Gimp-user] can't Name on new layer other than "g" or "G" or "ggggg" etc

[Ross Martinek]

First, upgrade to OS 10.11.5. Restart again after the computer restarts after 
installation. I don’t know why, but some macs need that second boot to get 
everything in order—possibly a timing issue.

Your problem may be related to a timing issue, too, or to some other software. 
Have you recently installed new RAM or a new SSD? If it isn’t Apple or OWC, 
there is a possibility of a timing problem between the two. (Just had and fixed 
this problem, myself.) This is the least likely, but  hardest to diagnose.

Are you running any non-native security software? Uninstall it and see if the 
problem goes away. These programs are the cause of many software conflicts, 
especially in OS’s after 10.6.8. They are also unnecessary if you follow 
reasonable safe computing practices.

Have you modified keyboard shortcuts for the OS, or for any other input devices 
such as a graphics tablet, or any other software (such as a word processor)? 
Reset to default and restart.

Finally, have you tried resetting the keyboard shortcuts to their default in 
GIMP? Restart both OS and GIMP after doing so.

Ross


> On May 27, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Jacob Bryan  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> I have been using gimp for about a year now and I love the software but I do 
> not like how I cannot seem to type on new layers =. My software keeps 
> thinking I’m trying to use shortcuts. All my layers end up being named “g” or 
> Capitalized G or just a bunch of g’s. I have been reading on some forums.. 
> and they say just disable the shortcuts all together. I love using Keyboard 
> shortcuts I definitely do not want to do that. I have tried minimizing all 
> the windows except for the main window thinking that would no it.. to no 
> avail. Can someone help me? IM using a Macbook pro on 10.11.3 el capitan. 
> Using the latest version of Gimp. 
> 
> 
> 
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> Florida Cell Repair,LLC
> (386) 269-4265
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Cant modify text on layer in XCF file using V2.8.16

[Ross Martinek]

If you have to learn GIMP on the fly, I recommend The Book of GIMP,  by Lecarme 
and Delvare. Has saved me lots of headaches, and no small amount of beard hair 
… (scalp is long gone …)

I sympathize. Seems the only way I learn new software is under a deadline …

“We, the unknowing
have done so much,
for so long,
with so little,
for the ungrateful,
that we are now qualified
to do the impossible
with nothing.”

At least you have GIMP, this forum, and a manual. You are in Heaven/Nirvana/ … 
whatever …

;o}

Ross


> On May 25, 2016, at 8:01 PM, DennisT  wrote:
> 
>> When you create a text layer, it remains editable as long as you don't
>> alter it in any way outside of the Text tool. While in this state, the...
> 
> Thank you!  Thank you!  Thank you!
> 
> That was exactly the nudge I needed.  I was able to replace the layers that 
> had
> text, keeping them in editable formats.
> 
> Feeling better about GIMP - and really good about the activity here!  
> 
> This is a twice a month activity for me so I'll be visiting periodically, but
> not jumping in with both feel to learn how to be a GIM Jedi.
> 
> Very nice to meet you all.  Thanks very much for all the responses and 
> feedback.
> 
> Gratefully,
> Dennis
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Re: [Gimp-user] Help With OSX El Capitan

[Ross Martinek]

Not that I can find.

As for only loading when you use the tool, that will slow you down tremendously.

A possible work around is to save the fonts you use frequently as presets in 
the Text tool.

Ross


> On May 10, 2016, at 7:24 AM, Revolt  wrote:
> 
> Isn't there any configuration option to not load all the fonts? Or load them
> when I request them, like when I try to use the text tool.
> 
>> This is probably just GIMP taking a long time to load fonts, which
>> does
>> happen after up-grading the OS.
>> It hasn't actually crashed, even though the window greys-out and OSX
>> might
>> complain that GIMP is not responding, the font loading is still going
>> on
>> and you just need to be patient.
>> Another user has recently been through the same thing with OSX 10.11
>> as
>> reported here:
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756092
>> The real problem is the ridiculous number and size of fonts which are
>> being
>> included with Windoze and OSX nowadays.
>> 
>> The usual advice given on the forums now is just to start Gimp running
>> and
>> then leave it alone - don't even touch the keyboard or the mouse, just
>> get
>> up, walk away and go do something else for at least an hour. (Yes,
>> really!)
>> When you come back, Gimp will probably be up and running and you will
>> then
>> have no further problems.
>> 
>> Having said that, we don't actually know how long it does take on OSX
>> 10.11. So, if you have the patience, perhaps you could actually keep
>> an eye
>> on your computer while GIMP is loading the first time (read the
>> newspaper
>> or something) and hopefully tell us approximately how long it does
>> take
>> ..is it 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 20 minutes, longer ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:07 PM, kelly wheelhouse <
>> kelly.wheelho...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Unrecognized scanner on Mac

[Ross Martinek]

According to The Book of GIMP by Olivier Lecarme and Karine Delvare, you need a 
plugin called “XSane” for GIMP to communicate with the scanner. I thoroughly 
recommend this book to any beginner with GIMP.

I haven’t tried using my Canon scanner directly into GIMP. Usually I just use 
the scanner software, then open the file in GIMP. But if they recommend that 
plugin, that’s what I’d use if I were going to do so.

It’s never a bad idea to repair permissions and restart after installing new 
hardware or software, especially drivers. Sometimes it takes more than once for 
the system to “find all its paws.” =^}

Also, you didn’t state what year your Macbook Pro was. If it’s an older one, 
like mine, you will benefit greatly by upgrading to an OWC (OtherWorld 
Computing) SSD and installing newer (faster) RAM. Don’t buy any other brand 
except Apple. According to my local Apple Certified Tech, he’s had nothing but 
trouble with Samsung and a few other brands. OWC is made to Apple specs and has 
a better warranty. The RAM warranty is lifetime. I had no end of problems until 
I did this, both hardware and software. Now I have none.


Ross


> On May 2, 2016, at 9:35 PM, uberclimber  wrote:
> 
> Hi, first-time user and GIMP newbie here. I'm trying to get GIMP to recognise 
> my
> scanner, a Canon MG6130 inkjet printer-scanner. I'm on a Macbook Pro using
> OSX10.10, and I'm using GIMP 2.8.14. I've been to the Canon website and
> downloaded the latest drivers (for both printer and scanner functions). When I
> click File>Create in GIMP, I don't get the Scanner/Camera option. Not sure 
> what
> else I should try. Having installed the drivers, is there something else 
> needed?
> A restart, maybe? Any advice would be appreciated.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

[Ross Martinek]

Font Book allows you to turn fonts off, effectively removing them from 
application use.

Ross

On Mar 27, 2016, at 3:25 AM, uga...@talktalk.net wrote:

> I did not suggest using Font Book.app to deactivate system files. I 
> tried to say that removing fonts from /System/Library/Fonts is 
> potentially harmful. I suggested using Font Book.app to browse, 
> organise and/or manage your fonts. 
> 
> 
>> Original Message
>> From: triariu...@gmail.com
>> Date: 27/03/2016 03:17
>> To: "Snowyn"
>> Cc: , 
>> Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>> 
>> Also as ugajin suggests, try using Font Book to deactivate system 
> files, rather than removing them.
>> 
>> Ross
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Snowyn wrote:
>> 
 The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are 
> part
 of "core services." under current OS X versions these can only be
 altered by the administrative user account with authentication from
 Apple via an Apple ID, but it (supposedly) can be done.
>>> 
 Ross
>>> 
>>> Do you have any recommendations on how to get "authentication from 
> Apple via an
>>> Apple ID" or where I should post to get help from Apple on this?
>>> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

[Ross Martinek]

Also as ugajin suggests, try using Font Book to deactivate system files, rather 
than removing them.

Ross

On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Snowyn wrote:

>> The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are part
>> of "core services." under current OS X versions these can only be
>> altered by the administrative user account with authentication from
>> Apple via an Apple ID, but it (supposedly) can be done.
> 
>> Ross
> 
> Do you have any recommendations on how to get "authentication from Apple via 
> an
> Apple ID" or where I should post to get help from Apple on this?
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

[Ross Martinek]

I just went into /System/Libary/Fonts and removed some. I had to type in my 
admin name and password. However, I'm running OS 10.6.8. I'll have to try with 
a later system and find out if that's a change Apple made on later systems. 
Will let you know.

Ross

On Mar 26, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Snowyn wrote:

>> Steve,
>> 
>> Nice workaround for the ordering. On the Mac OS, you can also add a
>> special character that sorts last to get the unwanted fonts down to
>> the bottom of the list. I use  which generates an omega
>> character.
>> 
>> Ross
> 
> Thanks for adding this to Steve's reply. If I can rename fonts, I can also use
> "99" to send fonts to the bottom of the list. And Option z looks awesome as
> well.
> 
> (Main problem continues to be that I cannot do anything to the system fonts in
> /System/Library/Fonts/. That is, I assume that since I cannot move them to the
> trash or make them inactive in the Font Book, I also cannot rename them. But I
> will try it out and see.
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Cloning tool

[Ross Martinek]

System error at user: Abort, Sleep, Caffiene?

;^)

Ross

On Mar 26, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:

> On 03/26/2016 09:44 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
>> On 03/26/2016 09:28 AM, Ross Martinek wrote:
>> 
>>> I use it a lot too, in GIMP. It works slightly differently than in PS, but 
>>> seems to be a more powerful tool in some ways. Some of the differences are 
>>> subtle, but nice.
>> 
>> Send in the clones:
>> 
>> https://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-tool-clone.html
>> 
>> And for seamlessly blending the cloned content into its destination:
> 
> https://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-tool-heal.html
> 
> Duh.  Failed to copy the 2nd address before pasting it in.  It seems
> I can't manage to clone plain text very reliably this morning.
> 
> :o)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Cloning tool

[Ross Martinek]

I use it a lot too, in GIMP. It works slightly differently than in PS, but 
seems to be a more powerful tool in some ways. Some of the differences are 
subtle, but nice.

Ross

On Mar 25, 2016, at 4:02 PM, MiniBob wrote:

> I am currently contemplating the installation of GIMP.  I do not have it
> downloaded yet.  I am wondering if GIMP contains a "cloning tool" similar to 
> the
> "stamp" tool in Photoshop.  I use this tool extensively and would like to have
> it available to me in GIMP.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Adjust Pressure Sensitivity?

[Ross Martinek]

Yes, or there could be a conflict of some sort, like a conflict with the mouse 
driver. When I was using Windows systems, this sort of thing was fairly common.

Ross

On Feb 26, 2016, at 8:38 PM, PlasticTopHat wrote:

>> You didn't mention what OS you have, but often this is more a function
>> of the OS and the tablet driver, at least on the OS I've used. If you
>> are sure you have the most recent driver for your OS, then I don't
>> know what to tell you.
>> 
>> Ross
> Do you mean the OS (Windows 7) and the tablet driver may be causing the weird
> tool flickering? Because it's apparently not the pen. The other pen is giving 
> me
> the same results.
> 
> I'll check and see if I can download an updated driver.
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Adjust Pressure Sensitivity?

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You didn't mention what OS you have, but often this is more a function of the 
OS and the tablet driver, at least on the OS I've used. If you are sure you 
have the most recent driver for your OS, then I don't know what to tell you.

Ross

On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:53 PM, PlasticTopHat wrote:

> Okay, now the pen that came with my Monoprice drawing tablet is acting weird,
> with the buttons sticking at times. I have a replacement pen, but I have to
> press very hard to get full pressure, and thus full opacity. I tried adjusting
> the pressure curve in GIMP both ways, but it didn't seem to help. Isn't that
> what that curve is for?
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Re: [Gimp-user] Hello

[Ross Martinek]

As a long time Photoshop user, I have to agree. One thing you'll discover 
fairly quickly, I think, is the way GIMP handles brushes. I've been using GIMP 
for over a year, and the brushes palette still causes occasional consternation.

But it's absolutely worth it. I liked PS, thought it a good program, but I 
wouldn't have it back if it was free.

I also recommend The Book of Gimp by Lecarme and Delvare. Saved me a lot of 
pulled hair—and I'm bald. =^D

Ross

On Feb 13, 2016, at 3:55 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:

> On 02/12/2016 09:32 PM, Robin Reed wrote:
> 
>> I joined this list because my Mac wouldn't open Gimp because it wasn't from 
>> the Apple Store. I figured it out, though, and I have Gimp working. Now I 
>> just need to learn it. It doesn't look too different than Photoshop.
>> 
>> Sent from my brain.
> 
> Beware:  The tool set and workflow in GIMP and Photoshop are
> different enough to make the transition from one to the other a
> major challenge, at least in my experience.
> 
> A few years ago somebody gave me a copy of Photoshop.  Initially I
> discovered that I could not get it to do several very basic and
> necessary things, so I resolved to try harder:  I found tutorials
> and manuals and resolved to use nothing else to edit photos for one
> month, as a real test drive.  Two weeks later, I uninstalled
> Photoshop - not because "it sucks," obviously it does not if one is
> used to it.  But I found that it just wasn't worth the effort of
> retraining to use it.
> 
> If you are at a 'beginner' skill level in Photoshop, getting used to
> the GIMP probably won't be very hard.  But if you have been using
> Photoshop long enough for its tools and workflow to have become
> ingrained habits, expect non-stop annoyance, at best, when starting
> out with the GIMP: "It should do this, but it does that instead,
> argh!"  I think it would be worth the effort, your mileage may vary.
> 
> Some basic educational resources for new GIMP users:
> 
> https://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-tutorial-quickies.html
> 
> Lots of tutorials and general inspiration, issue 1 has a very
> excellent list of online resources for GIMP students:
> 
> http://gimpmagazine.org/category/magazines/
> 
> My own tutorial, which presents some basic information and shows the
> configuration tweaks I use to set up the GIMP for daily use:
> 
> http://pilobilus.net/gimp_tutorial.html
> 
> You already found the tech support department - that's us kids on
> the GIMP User list.  Do try searching the archive before asking
> questions that have been answered over and over again...
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/
> 
> :o)
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] First Use

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Press the "Tab" key to toggle the toolbox windows.

Check your preference settings for screen size and resolution.

Ross

On Jan 23, 2016, at 8:34 AM, Ozzibert wrote:

> I''ve just downloaded GIMP and the toolboxes have disappeared from the sides 
> of
> the screen and the "Wilber" icon in the background is that large I can only 
> see
> the tips of his ears.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Downloaded 2.8.16 & no shortcut was created on desktop. Don't know how to launch?

[Ross Martinek]

You have to locate the actual GIMP application. If I recall my Windows days 
correctly, right clicking or Control-clicking on the application should bring 
up a menu which has a "make shortcut" item, or similarly named. Then just drag 
the shortcut to your desktop.

Same procedure for the GIMP doc.

Ross

On Dec 16, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Bob Owen wrote:

> Hi. Brand new GIMP user. Unfortunately, the shortcut to desktop was missed. 
> Don't know how to create the shortcut to launch GIMP. Please help with simple 
> instructions. Windows explorer has so many GIMP folders, that I can't figure 
> it out.Also, would like shortcut for the GIMP doc that I downloaded.Thanks a 
> zillion.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Idea/Request: Fast start mode for GIMP

[Ross Martinek]

Different OS: MacBook Pro, 2.66 Ghz intel Core i7, 8 GB 1067 Mhz DDR3, OS 
10.6.8, GIMP 2.8 without a lot of bells and whistles: Launch time 4.8 sec.

Gimp is like a high performance aircraft, say an F-16. Superbly agile and fast, 
but when you hang a max loadout of ordinance on it, not so much. So it helps a 
lot if you know before launch what you will need.

In that light, a feature, as an option, (by holding down 
"Option/Alt/" at launch?) you get presented with a dialog of all the 
add-ons you have, select those you need.

Also comparing GIMP with Photoshop on the same platform, similar "ordinance 
load," GIMP leaves Adobe products in the mud. Adobe launch times: PS, 20 sec. 
Illustrator 28 sec.

Bottom line, if you want it to handle like a sports car, don't load it like a 
dump truck. Everything is a trade off. A little thoughtful planning (What tools 
am I likely to need for this project?) saves a lot of time and frustration. You 
might have to walk back to the toolshed occasionally, when inspiration strikes, 
but it was probably time to take a break, anyway. ;^}

Ross

On Dec 18, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

>> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Dezember 2015 um 06:53 Uhr
> 
>> I just clocked the opening GIMP at 43 seconds flat, on an AMD 64
>> dual core system with 1.5 GB of RAM and Linux 17.  This is typical
>> of my experience on other platforms with other versions of the GIMP,
>> going back at least to GIMP 2.6 on a very adequate office
>> workstation running Windows XP.
>> 
>> Here's the reason:
>> 
>> 172 brushes
>> 112 script-fu scripts
>> 92 fonts
>> 1 python plugin
> 
> You write "reason". Got any profiling data that supports this and pinpoints 
> the exact reason for the delay? 
> 
> I'm asking because I couldn't claim this myself without that kind of 
> research, but you might have done it already - you've probably checked 
> whether startup is faster with less scripts, plug-ins and such, and slower 
> with more, ...
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Elementary question for an old mapmaker

[Ross Martinek]

Hello Peter,

Yes, GIMP will import most graphics files, and you can use layers to trace over 
them. It does have a wide typographic  library, and appears to recognize all 
the fonts installed on your system. I am working with GIMP and a map I 
originally sketched in Adobe Photoshop (a software I have abandoned completely 
in favor of GIMP.) 

However, you should, as others recommend, investigate Inkscape (as I intend to 
do in the near future). If you are on a Mac OS, take a look at 
http://www.mapdiva.com/ortelius/.

All of these programs have fairly steep learning curves if you are not familiar 
with CG, however, the time spent is ultimately worth it.

Ross

On Nov 27, 2015, at 11:42 AM, petersh...@comcast.net wrote:

> I've just finished hand drawing about fifty simple, small (8.5 X 11) maps in 
> a two-month period. I'm hoping for an easier way, without going broke or 
> making my head explode. 
> 
> I've read a summary of the GIMP drawing program, but it is not clear to me, 
> if you can import images such as scans, or Google Earth. Google maps, etc. 
> Can you import an image and trace from it, or does one only draw original 
> subjects? I assume it has wide typographic ability for font and sizes?? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Peter 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Layers

[Ross Martinek]

I have found The Book of Gimp, by Olivier Lecarme and Karine Delvare to be a 
marvelous resource, well worth the money for a new GIMPer, especially if you 
are coming over from the dark side >}:^{D> (Adobe Photoshop).

Ross

On Oct 3, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Ofnuts wrote:

> On 03/10/15 12:40, Martin Odile wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>  
>> I need to increase the sharpness in some of my photographs but I cannot find 
>> the "Value" function in the "layers" menu.
>> 
>> Could you let me know where to find it.
>> 
>> Thanks very much in advance.
> 
> I wonder what makes you think there is a "Layer>Value" menu entry in Gimp. 
> You must have been reading the wrong manual.
> 
> To increase sharpness, see "Filters>Enhance>Sharpen" or the more evolved 
> "Filter>Enhance>Unsharp mask".
> 
> See 
> http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-imaging-photos.html#gimp-using-photography-sharpness
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Re: [Gimp-user] What happened to Gimp?

[Ross Martinek]

Can't really help with Yosemite—appropriately named after than varmint, 
Yosemite Sam. The simplest solution: can you get a copy of OS 10.6.8 (Snow 
Leopard) and install that? You'll have to reformat a partition to do this, then 
you can boot to either OS version. I do all my work in 10.6.8, only using The 
Varmint partition when I need secure connections to the outside world.

I hope someone else has a better solution, but I know this one will work, even 
if it is a PITN/A/H/everywhere else to implement, as I know from experience.

Ross

On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Belleo wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Sorry if this is a rant. I've been on the brink of pulling all my hairs out 
> over
> the last couple weeks.
> 
> So I've been a heavy gimp user for years. And I have developed some amazing
> graphics with this software. Loved it, preached about it and swore by it.
> 
> However, I recently purchased the latest Macbook Pro, OS Yosemite, and I feel
> like my design world has been shattered.
> 
> The interface of the latest GIMP installed has been anything but pleasant. It
> looks and functions very clunky. Everything seems so much more complicated. 
> For
> example, adding text has become a pain. There is a static box that hovers over
> the text as you type and it is so annoying. It is painfully difficult to move
> the text box around to your desired location, right now I have to drag the 
> edges
> out to move the text box.
> 
> To top all of this off, all my exported images come out blurry and distorted. 
> Is
> there a way I can get my old gimp back??? My livelihood depends on me creating
> beautiful graphics and I am not ready to fork over thousands of dollars for
> Adobe.
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Removing a vertical strip

[Ross Martinek]

Could you post the image? What file format, layers, etc?

Ross

On Sep 21, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

> I'm a complete gimp newbie -
> I installed it on my Fedora-22/KDE laptop yesterday.
> 
> I want to remove a vertical strip from a photo,
> and join the remaining two parts together.
> I'd be very grateful if some kind soul could tell me how to do this.
> 
> I assume I should be using the guillotine tool.
> I have looked at the basic tutorials,
> but have not seen any explicit examples of doing what I need.
> 
> I did look briefly at the slice plugin,
> but could not see how to download and install it on my laptop.
> 
> -- 
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> gayleard /at/ eircom.net
> School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Changing settings

[Ross Martinek]

GIMP Menu: Units (sixth item down)

Ross

On Jul 30, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Creighton Bell wrote:

 I have been trying to change my measurements to inches. How do I do this, and 
 how do I make it my default setting?
 I'm using GIMP 2.8 with am iMac
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?

[Ross Martinek]

Then I'm stymied. I run a Mac OS. I'll try to re-create the problem.

Has GIMP always acted this way since installation? If so, try downloading and 
installing a fresh version.

Once this problem is resolved, you might want to consider getting a graphics 
tablet. Much finer control than possible with a mouse.

Ross

On Jun 20, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Dora Smith wrote:

 Ross, why would I be using a tablet.  I'm using a mouse!   On a computer! 
 I've not modified anything.
 
 GIMP is acting exactly the same way in Ubuntu and Windows 7, on different 
 computers.   It isn't something I've done.   It isn't some erratic way 
 something is acting.
 
 Dora
 
 -Original Message- From: Ross Martinek
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:45 AM
 To: Dora Smith
 Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?
 
 That's happening because the program is not getting a discrete mouse-up 
 signal. Are  you using the mouse or a stylus-tablet? Most of the 
 stylus-tablet combinations I've used have a click-lock function. The most 
 usual cause for this problem is that something is calling that function, 
 usually a setting in the tablet software or button layout. For example, if 
 you have a button near the tip of the stylus set to click-lock, and you 
 inadvertently press it slightly, that could do it. The same sort of thing can 
 happen with a mouse, or a trackpad. One of the sneakiest ways is when you 
 have a trackpad, but are using the mouse or stylus, and unconsciously touch 
 the trackpad—or even a key on the keyboard. Is caps lock set?
 
 If you've modified the keyboard commands, that could also cause a signal 
 conflict.
 
 First thing to do is quit, reboot, and relaunch GIMP. Normal system changes 
 sometimes cause temporary erratic behavior in some apps, and graphics 
 programs are particularly vulnerable, even the most robust. Make sure you 
 have the latest compatible device driver for your OS.
 
 If the problem still occurs, does it occur with all input devices, or only 
 with one? In that case, check that device's settings. If the problem doesn't 
 seem to be there, check the system settings to make sure it is recognizing 
 the device properly. Finally, if possible, check the hardware by using 
 another similar device.
 
 Ross
 
 On Jun 20, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Dora Smith wrote:
 
 Right, I do.  Problem is that it keeps drawing lines.
 
 Dora
 
 -Original Message- From: Ross Martinek
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:06 AM
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?
 
 The first place you click, you will see a circle that is momentarily filled 
 with yellow. Continue clicking or dragging, then close the selection shape 
 by moving the cursor over the starting point. When you are at the correct 
 point, that original click point, with the yellow filled circle, will 
 reappear. Click in it to close the shape.
 
 Ross
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?

[Ross Martinek]

That would do it. Very easy to do with a mouse—even with a stylus until you get 
used to it.

Ross

On Jun 21, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Dora Smith wrote:

 I may possibly have been “tapping” the end points too many times.
  
 Dora
  
  
 From: Ross Martinek
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 10:01 AM
 To: Dora Smith
 Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?
  
 Then I'm stymied. I run a Mac OS. I'll try to re-create the problem.
  
 Has GIMP always acted this way since installation? If so, try downloading and 
 installing a fresh version.
  
 Once this problem is resolved, you might want to consider getting a graphics 
 tablet. Much finer control than possible with a mouse.
  
 Ross
  
 On Jun 20, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Dora Smith wrote:
 
 Ross, why would I be using a tablet.  I'm using a mouse!   On a computer! 
 I've not modified anything.
 
 GIMP is acting exactly the same way in Ubuntu and Windows 7, on different 
 computers.   It isn't something I've done.   It isn't some erratic way 
 something is acting.
 
 Dora
 
 -Original Message- From: Ross Martinek
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:45 AM
 To: Dora Smith
 Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?
 
 That's happening because the program is not getting a discrete mouse-up 
 signal. Are  you using the mouse or a stylus-tablet? Most of the 
 stylus-tablet combinations I've used have a click-lock function. The most 
 usual cause for this problem is that something is calling that function, 
 usually a setting in the tablet software or button layout. For example, if 
 you have a button near the tip of the stylus set to click-lock, and you 
 inadvertently press it slightly, that could do it. The same sort of thing 
 can happen with a mouse, or a trackpad. One of the sneakiest ways is when 
 you have a trackpad, but are using the mouse or stylus, and unconsciously 
 touch the trackpad—or even a key on the keyboard. Is caps lock set?
 
 If you've modified the keyboard commands, that could also cause a signal 
 conflict.
 
 First thing to do is quit, reboot, and relaunch GIMP. Normal system changes 
 sometimes cause temporary erratic behavior in some apps, and graphics 
 programs are particularly vulnerable, even the most robust. Make sure you 
 have the latest compatible device driver for your OS.
 
 If the problem still occurs, does it occur with all input devices, or only 
 with one? In that case, check that device's settings. If the problem doesn't 
 seem to be there, check the system settings to make sure it is recognizing 
 the device properly. Finally, if possible, check the hardware by using 
 another similar device.
 
 Ross
 
 On Jun 20, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Dora Smith wrote:
 
 Right, I do.  Problem is that it keeps drawing lines.
 
 Dora
 
 -Original Message- From: Ross Martinek
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:06 AM
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?
 
 The first place you click, you will see a circle that is momentarily filled 
 with yellow. Continue clicking or dragging, then close the selection shape 
 by moving the cursor over the starting point. When you are at the correct 
 point, that original click point, with the yellow filled circle, will 
 reappear. Click in it to close the shape.
 
 Ross
 
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[Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?

[Ross Martinek]

The first place you click, you will see a circle that is momentarily filled 
with yellow. Continue clicking or dragging, then close the selection shape by 
moving the cursor over the starting point. When you are at the correct point, 
that original click point, with the yellow filled circle, will reappear. Click 
in it to close the shape.

Ross

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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?

[Ross Martinek]

That's happening because the program is not getting a discrete mouse-up 
signal. Are  you using the mouse or a stylus-tablet? Most of the stylus-tablet 
combinations I've used have a click-lock function. The most usual cause for 
this problem is that something is calling that function, usually a setting in 
the tablet software or button layout. For example, if you have a button near 
the tip of the stylus set to click-lock, and you inadvertently press it 
slightly, that could do it. The same sort of thing can happen with a mouse, or 
a trackpad. One of the sneakiest ways is when you have a trackpad, but are 
using the mouse or stylus, and unconsciously touch the trackpad—or even a key 
on the keyboard. Is caps lock set?

If you've modified the keyboard commands, that could also cause a signal 
conflict.

First thing to do is quit, reboot, and relaunch GIMP. Normal system changes 
sometimes cause temporary erratic behavior in some apps, and graphics programs 
are particularly vulnerable, even the most robust. Make sure you have the 
latest compatible device driver for your OS.

If the problem still occurs, does it occur with all input devices, or only with 
one? In that case, check that device's settings. If the problem doesn't seem to 
be there, check the system settings to make sure it is recognizing the device 
properly. Finally, if possible, check the hardware by using another similar 
device.

Ross

On Jun 20, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Dora Smith wrote:

 Right, I do.  Problem is that it keeps drawing lines.
 
 Dora
 
 -Original Message- From: Ross Martinek
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:06 AM
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?
 
 The first place you click, you will see a circle that is momentarily filled 
 with yellow. Continue clicking or dragging, then close the selection shape by 
 moving the cursor over the starting point. When you are at the correct point, 
 that original click point, with the yellow filled circle, will reappear. 
 Click in it to close the shape.
 
 Ross
 
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