Re: C++ Workable Mainframe Debuggers (and a Public z/OS HTTP Server)
I agree with my IBM colleague. Please get those functional requirements into IBM. Unusable, how? [And which version(s)?] We'd like to know! If you're unsure how to do that, please contact me offline. We eat our own cooking here, it's worth mentioning. We have a number of middleware products for z/OS (and many z/OS elements) written in C++, so IBM developers use Debug Tool in-house. IBM itself probably does more C++ development on z/OS than anyone. We need good C++ debugging functionality at least as much as you do. Re: C++ support, I'm having difficulty finding any other debuggers that support C++ on z/OS, much less in both 31-bit and 64-bit modes, much less both graphically and traditionally, aside from the two IBM has (Debug Tool/DTUAF and dbx). Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken -- I hope I'm wrong -- but I've been unsuccessful in my searches thus far. I forgot to mention that there is an IBM Debug Tool test drive available, at least for the classic user interface. [I posted details previously on the test drive for the graphical workbench. But if you happen to have Rational Developer for System z or WebSphere Developer Debugger for System z, I believe we have the necessary Debug Tool TCP/IP port accessible on the test drive system for you to connect.] Start here to sign up: http://zserveros.dfw.ibm.com This test drive system is also available for trying many application development tools, DB2 tools, and IMS tools. We have Debug Tool Utilities Advanced Functions Version 8.1 (the latest release) installed on the test drive system along with a bunch of other products. We try to keep this system up-to-date with all the latest releases. By the way, zserveros.dfw.ibm.com is an Internet-connected z/OS system running the IBM HTTP Server for z/OS. Somebody was asking if there were any z/OS HTTP servers directly connected to the Internet. There are; this is one. You can verify its status here: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://zserveros.dfw.ibm.com It says Last reboot: unknown in the report. :-) It also says OS/390, and yes, I've already written them to see if they can fix that. Apparently their scanner cannot distinguish between OS/390 and z/OS. If you need 3270 emulation (to access the test drive system), you can take the Host On-Demand test drive (Try Your Own Host) here: http://websphere.dfw.ibm.com/whidemo/atdemo_hod_basics_live.html Please do not depend on the HOD test drive for real production use of course. Hope all that helps. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
3990-6 Cache
Hi all! How can I display a cache size for a 3990-6 Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, Rafał Hanzel Systems Programmer, RD of Computer System Department Z.E.T.O Katowice Sp. z o.o. ul. Owocowa 1 40-158 Katowice, Poland Phone: +48 32 3589 246 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side
Presumably z/Journal accepted advertising from Microsoft, and presumably z/Journal has an open advertising policy of some sort. Now, I wish all publications would be more explicit and label advertising more clearly. It sounds like at least a few people got confused and assumed this advertising represented z/Journal's editorial viewpoint because they didn't know it was advertising. In these sorts of cases some publications will add an explicit disclaimer such as: The following is a paid advertisement from Microsoft, and the views expressed are solely those of the advertiser. You are now leaving z/Journal BBC News, for example, puts the following disclaimer next to every external Web link: The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites. I don't know if z/Journal already did this, but I think I'd encourage such a label if not. However, I'm not the editor or publisher. I'm just a random subscriber with a personal opinion. z/Journal's owner has a payroll to make and bills to pay, so I think it's perfectly fine that they accept advertising from Microsoft or most anyone else, subject to some reasonable and universal advertising standards which I assume they already have. Heck, if Microsoft wants to provide some of the funding to keep z/Journal strong, and if z/Journal can then print more useful articles about *sensible* mainframe strategies, that's terrific. Just as long as there's a clean separation between editorial content and advertising, it's good. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3990-6 Cache
Rafal Hanzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all! How can I display a cache size for a 3990-6 Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, From my memory: try the following IDCAMS commands: LISTDATA STATUS UNIT(3390) VOL(VV) LISTDATA DSTATUS UNIT(3390) VOL(VV) Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP/E names (was: Consistent Data Set Names)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/14/2008 at 09:54 AM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think the doc isn't really correct there.It is a convention to make the LLQ match the DDDEF. Then how does it process BINDER/Link data in the JCLIN? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Subject line garbage snip!
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/10/2008 at 01:01 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Note that this does not allow a field to begin with a SPACE or HT, so the only permitted interpretation of the indented lines is that they are continuations of the References: field. You don't even need to read between the lines. RFC 2821 explicitly shows optional FWS and CWFS for all of the fileds that I sport checked, including References: references = References: 1*msg-id CRLF msg-id = [CFWS] id-left @ id-right [CFWS] -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving DASD Volumes from Mod3 to Mod9
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:24:06 -0400, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions? Here is a clist I use for migrating stuff from 3380 technology to 3390. It is no good if HSM won't handle the file e.g. multi-volume, enqueued, APf blah blah. TDMF or whatever is the best bet, but something like this is handy for isolated files or if you have no budget. Good luck Dave PROC 2 DSN VOL DEBUG IF DEBUG = DEBUG THEN CONTROL MSG LIST CONLIST SYMLIST FLUSH ELSE CONTROL NOMSG NOLIST FLUSH /* */ IF VOL = '' THEN SET VOL = FAP009 HMIGRATE DSN WAIT HRECALL DSN UNIT(3390) VOLUME(VOL) /* */ EXIT CODE(0) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3990-6 Cache
Thanks very much. That's what I need From my memory: try the following IDCAMS commands: LISTDATA STATUS UNIT(3390) VOL(VV) LISTDATA DSTATUS UNIT(3390) VOL(VV) Kees. -- Best regards, Rafa? Hanzel Systems Programmer, RD of Computer System Department Z.E.T.O Katowice Sp. z o.o. ul. Owocowa 1 40-158 Katowice, Poland Phone: +48 32 3589 246 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3990-6 Cache
Rafal Hanzel wrote: I have another question. after I issue this commands, it's my results: CAPACITY IN BYTES... SUBSYSTEM STORAGE NONVOLATILE STORAGE CONFIGURED 2408185856K 196608K AVAILABLE 2408185856K N/A PINNED 0 0 OFFLINE 0 N/A but if AVAILABLE 2408185856K is size of my cache it's rather imposible. We have DMX Symmetrix and for this max cache is 256GB Maybe I don't understand something Rafał, This is not 3990-6, it's only emulation of that CU. If you want to see more accurate data, you should use EMC software for that, i.e. SCF. BTW: you cache memory is not only for cache. Part of it is used for other purposes. HTH -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2008 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 złote i został w całości wpłacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3990-6 Cache
I have another question. after I issue this commands, it's my results: CAPACITY IN BYTES... SUBSYSTEM STORAGE NONVOLATILE STORAGE CONFIGURED 2408185856K 196608K AVAILABLE 2408185856K N/A PINNED 0 0 OFFLINE 0 N/A but if AVAILABLE 2408185856K is size of my cache it's rather imposible. We have DMX Symmetrix and for this max cache is 256GB Maybe I don't understand something Thanks in advance... Rafa? Hanzel napisa?(a): Thanks very much. That's what I need From my memory: try the following IDCAMS commands: LISTDATA STATUS UNIT(3390) VOL(VV) LISTDATA DSTATUS UNIT(3390) VOL(VV) Kees. -- Best regards, Rafal Hanzel Systems Programmer, RD of Computer System Department Z.E.T.O Katowice Sp. z o.o. ul. Owocowa 1 40-158 Katowice, Poland Phone: +48 32 3589 246 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another stupid sysplex question.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/14/2008 at 02:01 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Two TSO users on a single image can communicate via TSO SEND. Is there any way for a TSO user on system1 to send a message to a TSO user on system2? XMIT will work as long as there is an NJE connection; they don't need to be in the same JESplex. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Specialty Engine Prices
STOP, Ed! It's too hard to clean the morning coffee off the keyboard. :-) Cheers,,,Steve Steve Conway Lead Systems Programmer Information Systems Services Division Computer Network Operations Phone: (703) 450-3156 Fax:(703) 450-3197 Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 04/14/2008 05:43 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Specialty Engine Prices Ted MacNEIL wrote: I was quoted a list price of (IIRC) $250K for an ICF, while zIIPs were priced at $95K, and I had quite a discussion with them on the matter. At the last presentation I was at (about a year ago), I was told they were all the same, IIRC. But, I could be wrong. An ICF costs more than other specialty engines. (I double-checked with my rep last week on this.) I presume the reason is that an ICF engine has more moving parts and precision components forged from precious metals -- requiring higher manufacturing costs. These costs are passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices... :-D ;-) O:-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Specialty Engine Prices
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of William H. Blair Edward E Jaffe wrote: I presume the reason is that an ICF engine has more moving parts and precision components forged from precious metals -- requiring higher manufacturing costs. These costs are passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices... :-D ;-) O:-) Ed, I've met you. Your cheeks are of insufficient size to get your tongue in either one of them that far. You certainly already know the reason ICF engines are more expensive is that the collision insurance rates are up for the newest, faster models. And all this time I thought it was because the electrons in the ICFs require advanced, specialized training. Higher education = higher salary. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Tom Marchant wrote: I don't see how it really helps on a sandbox. What's so hard about adding your test library to the APF list? There are numerous reasons, but at my last job before retirement I worked at an ISV writing and maintaining system utilities. They had a library of all IBM documentation, and the ISV's products, but nothing else was documented. I had to find tape drive generics and addresses by word of mouth; there were some IBM and CBT add-ons, but not documented, so I had to discover them by trial and error! Of necessity we were privileged to do just about anything, but anything that smacked of a system change, unless required to run a product, was a no-no. I guess they wanted to keep the system as close to vanilla as possible? The systems group wasn't really supportive unless you had a real problem (e.g., I discovered an 0C4 trying to load a recovery data set in ISPF Edit; that was researched and fixed promptly). The work was technically challenging, but I've had better jobs. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: C++ Workable Mainframe Debuggers (and a Public z/OS HTTP Server)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples [ snip ] I forgot to mention that there is an IBM Debug Tool test drive available, at least for the classic user interface. [I posted details previously on the test drive for the graphical workbench. But if you happen to have Rational Developer for System z or WebSphere Developer Debugger for System z, I believe we have the necessary Debug Tool TCP/IP port accessible on the test drive system for you to connect.] Start here to sign up: http://zserveros.dfw.ibm.com This test drive system is also available for trying many application development tools, DB2 tools, and IMS tools. We have Debug Tool Utilities Advanced Functions Version 8.1 (the latest release) installed on the test drive system along with a bunch of other products. We try to keep this system up-to-date with all the latest releases. Looks interesting, but one essential ingredient appears to be missing (or well-hidden): How does one register to use it? The Obtaining your UserID and Password link only says how to proceed _after_ you've obtained them. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Two points: 1. It's in the config utility (ISRCONFG?) somewhere. 2. Why do you want to slow your ISPF session down by logging? #2 - Being an MVS newbie, I don't why you would or wouldn't want logging. It comes out of the box turned on, and I didn't know you could turn it off. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: C++ Workable Mainframe Debuggers (and a Public z/OS HTTP Server)
I will give it a shot here whenever I'm not in eight hours worth of meetings, and I will let you know what happens exactly. David Logan Manager of Product Development, Pitney Bowes Software, Inc. http://centrus.com 4750 Walnut St, Suite 200 Boulder, CO 80301 W: (720) 564-3056 C: (303) 818-8222 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: C++ Workable Mainframe Debuggers (and a Public z/OS HTTP Server) I agree with my IBM colleague. Please get those functional requirements into IBM. Unusable, how? [And which version(s)?] We'd like to know! If you're unsure how to do that, please contact me offline. We eat our own cooking here, it's worth mentioning. We have a number of middleware products for z/OS (and many z/OS elements) written in C++, so IBM developers use Debug Tool in-house. IBM itself probably does more C++ development on z/OS than anyone. We need good C++ debugging functionality at least as much as you do. Re: C++ support, I'm having difficulty finding any other debuggers that support C++ on z/OS, much less in both 31-bit and 64-bit modes, much less both graphically and traditionally, aside from the two IBM has (Debug Tool/DTUAF and dbx). Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken -- I hope I'm wrong -- but I've been unsuccessful in my searches thus far. I forgot to mention that there is an IBM Debug Tool test drive available, at least for the classic user interface. [I posted details previously on the test drive for the graphical workbench. But if you happen to have Rational Developer for System z or WebSphere Developer Debugger for System z, I believe we have the necessary Debug Tool TCP/IP port accessible on the test drive system for you to connect.] Start here to sign up: http://zserveros.dfw.ibm.com This test drive system is also available for trying many application development tools, DB2 tools, and IMS tools. We have Debug Tool Utilities Advanced Functions Version 8.1 (the latest release) installed on the test drive system along with a bunch of other products. We try to keep this system up-to-date with all the latest releases. By the way, zserveros.dfw.ibm.com is an Internet-connected z/OS system running the IBM HTTP Server for z/OS. Somebody was asking if there were any z/OS HTTP servers directly connected to the Internet. There are; this is one. You can verify its status here: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://zserveros.dfw.ibm.com It says Last reboot: unknown in the report. :-) It also says OS/390, and yes, I've already written them to see if they can fix that. Apparently their scanner cannot distinguish between OS/390 and z/OS. If you need 3270 emulation (to access the test drive system), you can take the Host On-Demand test drive (Try Your Own Host) here: http://websphere.dfw.ibm.com/whidemo/atdemo_hod_basics_live.html Please do not depend on the HOD test drive for real production use of course. Hope all that helps. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
Ah - Sure don't need that. I'll be figuring out how to turn that off. Thanks. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:38 AM, John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Pace of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/15/2008 07:27:10 AM: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Two points: 1. It's in the config utility (ISRCONFG?) somewhere. 2. Why do you want to slow your ISPF session down by logging? #2 - Being an MVS newbie, I don't why you would or wouldn't want logging. It comes out of the box turned on, and I didn't know you could turn it off. Logging is only necessary when you are tracing variable and function calls with Dialog Test (Option 7). Regards, John K -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: COBOL / VSAM question. Or just assume '97' is a valid open (which it is) and continue. Better choice! Most shops have enough batch window problems without re-running potentially successful jobs. The reply from programming: We never needed it before! Why do we need it just because the VSAM file is OPEN on a different system? It works fine if the job is run on the same system. This breaking of the system in twain was supposed to be transparent! And, of course, any change has to be scheduled, tested, run through QA, then place into production. This will take a minimum of a month. Our scheduler fixed the problem by rescheduling the job so that it only runs when the CICS region is down. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 6:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SPFLOG Why not contribute it to the CBTTAPE site? Sam G. is generally appreciative of all contributions. Sam K. just doesn't always have the time to work on the site, since he's still gainfully employed. As pointed out by others, this is now unnecessary. The ISPCCONF exec will do the equivalent with no exit at all. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
snipped; Our scheduler fixed the problem by rescheduling the job so that it only runs when the CICS region is down. Don't you love it when the elegant fix is the simplest one? Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
Mark Pace of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/15/2008 07:27:10 AM: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Two points: 1. It's in the config utility (ISRCONFG?) somewhere. 2. Why do you want to slow your ISPF session down by logging? #2 - Being an MVS newbie, I don't why you would or wouldn't want logging. It comes out of the box turned on, and I didn't know you could turn it off. Logging is only necessary when you are tracing variable and function calls with Dialog Test (Option 7). Regards, John K -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Or just assume '97' is a valid open (which it is) and continue. Better choice! Most shops have enough batch window problems without re-running potentially successful jobs. The reply from programming: We never needed it before! Why do we need it just because the VSAM file is OPEN on a different system? It works fine if the job is run on the same system. This breaking of the system in twain was supposed to be transparent! Some questions don't deserve answers, because they are self-answering. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers
At 4/14/2008 04:57 PM, Tom Ross wrote: By the way, I think IBM has the only debugger for IBM C and C++ on z/OS. Not for much longer. Cheers, TomR COBOL is the Language of the Future! Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cole Software WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afton, VA 22920FAX: 540-456-6658 Coming soon: c/XDC for C and C++ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DCF: Can it live again?
Would you guys stop talking about DCF (Document Composition Facility, 5748-XX9) a.k.a. Script in the past tense? It is still available for z/OS, z/VM, and z/VSE. Yes, but aren't DCF, BookMaster and BookManager MVS all functionally stabilized? I'll say in public: if IBM is willing to let me have the source for DCF and Bookie, I will port it to Linux for free. I want it for my own use, and I think there are others who feel the same. For all it's warts and antiquities, DCF and Bookie are still more usable (and a darn sight better documented) than any of the Linux alternatives. DocBook is a lame, lame piece of work by comparison. Bookie was written by people who actually had to PRODUCE large amounts of docs. If DCF could produce PDF directly, I'd be thrilled. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
#2 - Being an MVS newbie, I don't why you would or wouldn't want logging. It comes out of the box turned on, and I didn't know you could turn it off. Logging introduces overhead that you don't really need. On the command line type log. Then set the initial page size to 0. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 13 Apr 2008 to 14 Apr 2008 (#2008-105)
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:01:51 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: -- Date:Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:01:51 -0700 From:Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMF in System Logger In the absence of CF Sizer assistance ;-( I looked at the samples from IBM and thought they seemed awfully big. A structures occupies dedicated real storage, after all; I tend to be stingy with it. After consulting with our SMF data caretaker who saw no obvious advantage is splitting records at the collection point, I set up only a single CF structure like this that captures all records: STRUCTURE NAME(IFASMF_DEFAULT) /* SMF structure for unspecified types */ INITSIZE(1) SIZE(5) Despite occasional IXC585E 'structure full' messages, I haven't increased it from the INITSIZE value. This structure supports only one system. Another member is 1.7 (no can do), and the third is also 1.9 but a 'bronze-plex' member that does not share DASD. Haven't quite figured out how handle that puppy yet. An interesting quirk I just noticed: most (for today, all!) IXC585E messages are being issued by the other 1.9 member, which still uses MANx recording. No messages on the 1.7 guy or on the guy actually using System Logger. We have several non-parallel-sysplex systems that are candidates for DASD-only logging but haven't ventured down that road as yet. Book says it works. We're looking at multiple structures to accommodate the heavy hitters. In our shop, DB/2, the occasional (all right, frequent) CICS looper, and the fact that Audit wants us to log all access attempts to production datasets including successful attempts has caused us in the past to lose SMF data. We may adjust up or down based on our experiences. Already I've dropped the system specific structures I mentioned in an earlier post in favor of SYSPLEX versions. I take your point though and it may be overkill but I may have to prove it to our Capacity folks. The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:44:31 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walt Farrell wrote: That would allow an authorized program to load a module from an otherwise unauthorized STEPLIB. It won't let you actually start running something as APF authorized, though. Getting something to start running authorized requires use of a function like IKJEFTSR, or TESTAUTH. While I haven't tried this under z/OS, I can assure you that it works quite well under all earlier systems I used it on, from MVS to OS/390. Then there's something else you're doing to get the programs running that you're not telling us about, Gerhard. Simply creating an authorized STEPLIB won't do it. There are only a handful of ways of getting a program to start running authorized, even if the module comes from an APF-authorized library. And using address linkpgm in REXX won't do it. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
HSM CDS Repro?
I need to compress/reorg my HSM control datasets. The examples found in IBM docs, sys1.samplib, and IBM-MAIN that involve IDCAMS use export/import, in general. Anyone know why a REPRO would not work? I've never found any reference to using this instead and was wondering if there's some technical reason it cannot be used. thanks, Gary -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3990-6 Cache
The EMC Host Component command to enter would be command-characterSQ CNFG,cuu. Use the assigned command character for the subsystem that discovered the disk array at startup and replace the cuu with a valid UCB for the array. Tom Moulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3990-6 Cache Rafal Hanzel wrote: I have another question. after I issue this commands, it's my results: CAPACITY IN BYTES... SUBSYSTEM STORAGE NONVOLATILE STORAGE CONFIGURED 2408185856K 196608K AVAILABLE 2408185856K N/A PINNED 0 0 OFFLINE 0 N/A but if AVAILABLE 2408185856K is size of my cache it's rather imposible. We have DMX Symmetrix and for this max cache is 256GB Maybe I don't understand something Rafał, This is not 3990-6, it's only emulation of that CU. If you want to see more accurate data, you should use EMC software for that, i.e. SCF. BTW: you cache memory is not only for cache. Part of it is used for other purposes. HTH -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2008 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 złote i został w całości wpłacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM - MLC question
Apologies if this is the wrong forum to post in ...ISVCOST didn't seem appropriate. Can anyone advise if IBM give discounts on MLC List prices as they do with PA type products ? Thanks in anticpation This e-mail is confidential and, if you are not the intended recipient, please return it to us and do not retain or disclose it. We filter and monitor e-mails in order to protect our system and the integrity, confidentiality and availability of e-mails. We cannot guarantee that e-mails are risk free and are not responsible for any related damage or unauthorised alteration of e-mails by third parties after sending. For more information on Standard Life group, visit our website http://www.standardlife.com/ Standard Life plc (SC286832), Standard Life Assurance Limited* (SC286833) and Standard Life Employee Services Limited (SC271355) are all registered in Scotland at Standard Life House, 30 Lothian Road, Edinburgh EH1 2DH. *Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. 0131 225 2552. Calls may be recorded/monitored. Standard Life group includes Standard Life plc and its subsidiaries. Please consider the environment. Think - before you print. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBMLink WWW
Apparently crashed while I was typing a PMR update. Submit gave me Internal Server Error, then Page Not Found when I tried again. Fortunately, I was able to copy and save my revision text. I filled out the bad page report I was redirected to. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM websites slow today?
Not just IBMLink, but also the z/OS Internet Library websites are painfully slow responding today. Anybody else notice that, or might it be local to the Chicago area? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DCF: Can it live again?
David Boyes wrote: I'll say in public: if IBM is willing to let me have the source for DCF and Bookie, I will port it to Linux for free. I want it for my own use, and I think there are others who feel the same. Or ask them for the layout of the bookmanager books and the indexes. IBM also ships PDF versions of Bookmanager books. You can also do searches on PDF shelves. DocBook is a lame, lame piece of work by comparison. Insert ', lame, f lame' between 'lame' and 'piece'... ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP/E names (was: Consistent Data Set Names)
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/14/2008 at 09:54 AM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think the doc isn't really correct there.It is a convention to make the LLQ match the DDDEF. Then how does it process BINDER/Link data in the JCLIN? SMP/E processes JCLIN binder/link steps to create MOD and LMOD entries appropriate to the product being defined. You can find more details about how SMP/E processes JCLIN binder steps here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/GIMCOM35/9.7.5 -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM websites slow today?
Chase, John wrote: Not just IBMLink, but also the z/OS Internet Library websites are painfully slow responding today. Anybody else notice that, or might it be local to the Chicago area? Slow in LA too. I suspect the problem is with the server(s) ... not the Internet. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM websites slow today?
I see that also in CT. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM websites slow today? Not just IBMLink, but also the z/OS Internet Library websites are painfully slow responding today. Anybody else notice that, or might it be local to the Chicago area? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM websites slow today?
Maybe the farmer forgot to feed the chickens and they're lethargic. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/15/2008 10:46:48 AM: -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IBM websites slow today? --- Not just IBMLink, but also the z/OS Internet Library websites are painfully slow responding today. Anybody else notice that, or might it be local to the Chicago area? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Just to expand on Walt's statement There are only a handful of ways of getting a program to start running authorized, even if the module comes from an APF-authorized library append that don't violate system integrity. Sure, there are numerous ways to make this work, but most of them have the side-effect that they leave the system in a compromised state. In a small development system this loss of integrity may be acceptable, but for production, or even larger development or test systems, this would not be. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:44:31 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walt Farrell wrote: That would allow an authorized program to load a module from an otherwise unauthorized STEPLIB. It won't let you actually start running something as APF authorized, though. Getting something to start running authorized requires use of a function like IKJEFTSR, or TESTAUTH. While I haven't tried this under z/OS, I can assure you that it works quite well under all earlier systems I used it on, from MVS to OS/390. Then there's something else you're doing to get the programs running that you're not telling us about, Gerhard. Simply creating an authorized STEPLIB won't do it. There are only a handful of ways of getting a program to start running authorized, even if the module comes from an APF-authorized library. And using address linkpgm in REXX won't do it. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM - MLC question
George, Not as a rule. However, if you doing a huge ESSO/ELA/OIO deal, etc., then I am sure you can get your sales team to give you what appears to be a discount. It just won't be in line item detail form. But for a straight MLC discount without deals, use Variable Workload License charges. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George McLaren Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM - MLC question Apologies if this is the wrong forum to post in ...ISVCOST didn't seem appropriate. Can anyone advise if IBM give discounts on MLC List prices as they do with PA type products ? Thanks in anticpation This e-mail is confidential and, if you are not the intended recipient, please return it to us and do not retain or disclose it. We filter and monitor e-mails in order to protect our system and the integrity, confidentiality and availability of e-mails. We cannot guarantee that e-mails are risk free and are not responsible for any related damage or unauthorised alteration of e-mails by third parties after sending. For more information on Standard Life group, visit our website http://www.standardlife.com/ Standard Life plc (SC286832), Standard Life Assurance Limited* (SC286833) and Standard Life Employee Services Limited (SC271355) are all registered in Scotland at Standard Life House, 30 Lothian Road, Edinburgh EH1 2DH. *Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. 0131 225 2552. Calls may be recorded/monitored. Standard Life group includes Standard Life plc and its subsidiaries. Please consider the environment. Think - before you print. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM websites slow today?
No better even way down in Texas. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:Re: IBM websites slow today? Chase, John wrote: Not just IBMLink, but also the z/OS Internet Library websites are painfully slow responding today. Anybody else notice that, or might it be local to the Chicago area? Slow in LA too. I suspect the problem is with the server(s) ... not the Internet. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: C++ Workable Mainframe Debuggers (and a Public z/OS HTTP Server)
John Chase asks the following excellent question: Looks interesting, but one essential ingredient appears to be missing (or well-hidden): How does one register to use it? The Obtaining your UserID and Password link only says how to proceed _after_ you've obtained them. IBM assigns you a chaperone. :-) Actually, seriously, that chaperone is an IBM technical specialist (and not really a chaperone). He or she will be an AD tools specialist, a DB2 tools specialist, or an IMS tools specialist depending on which category you wish. You can get a specialist assigned (and your ID) by asking your IBM representative. That might your Client Represetative, your Software Representative... whichever person is most convenient. If you're just hopelessly lost about who your representative might be, you can surf here: http://zserveros.dfw.ibm.com/adtoolsinternet/support.html then click on the Contact Us link and ask that a Software Representative contact you. The folks in Dallas should be able to figure that out. Sorry I missed that bit. Great question. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
The reply from programming: We never needed it before! Why do we need it just because the VSAM file is OPEN on a different system? What happens if the file is not closed 'cleanly' before the job runs? The 97 will come up then, as well. Proper practices mean that you should handle any contingency you are aware of. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IDMS batch jobs getting increased dispatching priority
snip IDMS mechanism to serialize batch usage snip Just thought that I'd give a final update to this issue in case it's of any interest to other parties. IDMS batch indeed serializes on a planned ENQ conflict. 'Enqueue Promotion' notifies SRM and SRM boost the service of the holder (in this case the IDMS batch job) for ERV (default: 500 CPU SU's). In our scenario, the batch IDMS jobs were executing at a higher dispatching priority than the rest of batch, even as high as the IDMS', even though these batch jobs were in a discretionary Service Class. Since I had the default ERV, i.e. no IEAOPTxx member, and we have a small processor, these batch job ate the box. I did turn off ERV and the processing smoothed out, changing it to a much smaller number made things less worse but not better. Of course CA thinks that this is an IBM problem, IBM rightly (I think) disagrees, and CA can not (or won't) change the way IDMS serializes batch work (it's worked for years, so why change!). Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reply from programming: We never needed it before! Why do we need it just because the VSAM file is OPEN on a different system? What happens if the file is not closed 'cleanly' before the job runs? The 97 will come up then, as well. Proper practices mean that you should handle any contingency you are aware of. An abend *is* a way of handling a contingency. The original programmer might have wanted to investigate why the file wasn't closed 'cleanly' before his program runs. The fact that file status '97' has now become 'normal' isn't the fault of the original programmer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM - MLC question
George McLaren writes: Can anyone advise if IBM give discounts on MLC List prices as they do with PA type products ? I'll try to answer as honestly as I possibly can: yes and no. Yes, there are discounts (in the common meaning of the word). But they're already pre-baked into MLC terms and conditions. We've talked about them on IBM-MAIN: 1. Sub-capacity VWLC and the ability in SCRT reports to document and exclude one-time extraordinary exceptions (such as a runaway loop due to some bad code that escaped into production; IBM has the final say on whether they'll accept the exception you report). 2. Specialty engine (zIIP and zAAP) benefits. 3. Technology dividend benefits. 4. zNALC (and its predecessors z/OS.e and NALC). 5. Parallel Sysplex aggregation rules and benefits. 6. PartnerWorld/Partners in Development licenses (restricted use licenses for software product developers). 7. Various special entry workload pricing options like zELC and EWLC. 8. Volume pricing per machine or per qualifying Sysplex. (MLC is a price curve, not a line, for most products.) 9. OTC pricing options for certain MLC products under certain conditions (such as the recently announced DB2 Value Unit Edition and certain Tivoli products like Tivoli Decision Support for z/OS). 10. Various technical improvements that have software efficiency effects, such as LPAR group capacity settings, softcaps, HiperDispatch, middleware and OS efficiency gains, cryptographic acceleration hardware, hardware decimal floating point, HiperSockets, etc. 11. Certain Capacity On Demand features which incur no software charges, such as Capacity Backup (CBU) and the new z10 Capacity for Planned Events (CPE). 12. Enterprise License Agreements (ELAs) which may offer certain OTC software benefits. 13. IBM authorized product evaluations under a signed License Agreement for Evaluation of Programs. (It's entirely IBM's discretion whether to grant an evalution.) 14. The 12 month Single Version Charge (SVC) period. 15. Replacement of certain MLC products with functions in base products. (The older run-time libraries are a good example. When you move to Language Environment -- moved past tense I hope -- you could have seen a net MLC price reduction as you ended certain run-time library licenses.) IBM itself is usually pretty good at explaining all these options, and there are also some independent consultants who provide excellent advice in this area, at least one of which frequents IBM-MAIN. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
For completeness, since I started this whole, ah, thing, I'm curious what they are. Here are the techniques I've learned so far, including the one that violates system integrity: __ The standard acceptable method is to call TSO/E Service Facility, IKJEFTSR and pass it the name of an authorized module. __ Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. This is non-standard. If it is to be implemented even on a development system then added security needs to be built in to make sure it isn't misused. __ Simply put all the authorized stuff into an SVC or PC routine. That's all I've collected so far. Are there more ways? Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Driscoll Sent: 15. huhtikuuta 2008 17:49 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function Just to expand on Walt's statement There are only a handful of ways of getting a program to start running authorized, even if the module comes from an APF-authorized library append that don't violate system integrity. Sure, there are numerous ways to make this work, but most of them have the side-effect that they leave the system in a compromised state. In a small development system this loss of integrity may be acceptable, but for production, or even larger development or test systems, this would not be. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM websites slow today?
Usually happens to me on days with more than 4 vowels in the name. (In Finnish, that is.) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: 15. huhtikuuta 2008 17:47 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM websites slow today? Not just IBMLink, but also the z/OS Internet Library websites are painfully slow responding today. Anybody else notice that, or might it be local to the Chicago area? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. This is non-standard. If it is to be implemented even on a development system then added security needs to be built in to make sure it isn't misused. Do NOT go there. It will bite you in the a** - maybe not today - but someday. Your real options depend on whether you have a server address space or not : (a) You have a server address space Use PC-ss to execute auth function or to request server collect data on your behalf. (b) You do not have a server address space Use IKJEFTSR (daylight) Use SVC Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: 15 April 2008 17:19 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function For completeness, since I started this whole, ah, thing, I'm curious what they are. Here are the techniques I've learned so far, including the one that violates system integrity: __ The standard acceptable method is to call TSO/E Service Facility, IKJEFTSR and pass it the name of an authorized module. __ Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. This is non-standard. If it is to be implemented even on a development system then added security needs to be built in to make sure it isn't misused. __ Simply put all the authorized stuff into an SVC or PC routine. That's all I've collected so far. Are there more ways? Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Driscoll Sent: 15. huhtikuuta 2008 17:49 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function Just to expand on Walt's statement There are only a handful of ways of getting a program to start running authorized, even if the module comes from an APF-authorized library append that don't violate system integrity. Sure, there are numerous ways to make this work, but most of them have the side-effect that they leave the system in a compromised state. In a small development system this loss of integrity may be acceptable, but for production, or even larger development or test systems, this would not be. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM websites slow today?
snip Not just IBMLink, but also the z/OS Internet Library websites are painfully slow responding today. Anybody else notice that, or might it be local to the Chicago area? EOS Saw that blueline in Chicago was down...maybe you're trapped in the tunnel? Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Leahy Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: COBOL / VSAM question. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reply from programming: We never needed it before! Why do we need it just because the VSAM file is OPEN on a different system? What happens if the file is not closed 'cleanly' before the job runs? The 97 will come up then, as well. Proper practices mean that you should handle any contingency you are aware of. An abend *is* a way of handling a contingency. The original programmer might have wanted to investigate why the file wasn't closed 'cleanly' before his program runs. I'm the OP. If the programmer wanted it to abend under that condition, then he wouldn't have complained when it did. I don't know of any reason why a programmer would want to know that the file had not closed cleanly before this run. The very act of the OPEN resolves the problem and would not likely trigger any exception processing around here at least. The fact that file status '97' has now become 'normal' isn't the fault of the original programmer. True. It is IBM's fault. In the deep, dark past of OS/VS COBOL 2.4, the implicit verify returned a code of 00. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Xephon, are they still in business?
Tell me how you got them to respond. I had a subscription to z/OS Update. I had problems with delivering the issues on time. Finally, I had to send emails requesting the issues. I tried calling but the message box always was full. Eventually in November of 2007, my subscription expired. I tried to renew, but, no answer. I spoke to the president of z Journal at CMG SHARE about Xephon's reluctance, indifference and/or antipathy to respond. Still, no response. I only wanted to give them money and Xephon wasn't interested. Xephon wouldn't even respond to our accounting office. So, if anyone has a magic link or phone number... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM CDS Repro?
Repro works just fine. Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Management Remedy Queue: tis-hs-mstg (602) 977-5154 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Gentzel Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: HSM CDS Repro? I need to compress/reorg my HSM control datasets. The examples found in IBM docs, sys1.samplib, and IBM-MAIN that involve IDCAMS use export/import, in general. Anyone know why a REPRO would not work? I've never found any reference to using this instead and was wondering if there's some technical reason it cannot be used. thanks, Gary -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:38:34 -0500, John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two points: 1. It's in the config utility (ISRCONFG?) somewhere. 2. Why do you want to slow your ISPF session down by logging? #2 - Being an MVS newbie, I don't why you would or wouldn't want logging. It comes out of the box turned on, and I didn't know you could turn it off. Logging is only necessary when you are tracing variable and function calls with Dialog Test (Option 7). I've never seen anyone who could tell a performance imapct of keeping it on. Either system wide or individually. Ted, do you have any response time numbers or overhead numbers? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IDMS batch jobs getting increased dispatching priority
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:03:58 -0400, Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip IDMS mechanism to serialize batch usage snip Just thought that I'd give a final update to this issue in case it's of any interest to other parties. IDMS batch indeed serializes on a planned ENQ conflict. 'Enqueue Promotion' notifies SRM and SRM boost the service of the holder (in this case the IDMS batch job) for ERV (default: 500 CPU SU's). In our scenario, the batch IDMS jobs were executing at a higher dispatching priority than the rest of batch, even as high as the IDMS', even though these batch jobs were in a discretionary Service Class. Since I had the default ERV, i.e. no IEAOPTxx member, and we have a small processor, these batch job ate the box. I did turn off ERV and the processing smoothed out, changing it to a much smaller number made things less worse but not better. Of course CA thinks that this is an IBM problem, IBM rightly (I think) disagrees, and CA can not (or won't) change the way IDMS serializes batch work (it's worked for years, so why change!). We run CA-Dispatch which utilizes IDMS as its online TP. We also run the archive and extract tasks externally to the Dispatch region and after you last post I looked at the behavior you described. I didn't see it. The extract and archive tasks run at the DP I expect them to in regards to the service class I have those STCs defined in. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: C++ Workable Mainframe Debuggers (and a Public z/OS HTTP Server)
Hi David Logan wrote: I will give it a shot here whenever I'm not in eight hours worth of meetings, and I will let you know what happens exactly. David Logan Manager of Product Development, Pitney Bowes Software, Inc. http://centrus.com 4750 Walnut St, Suite 200 Boulder, CO 80301 W: (720) 564-3056 C: (303) 818-8222 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: C++ Workable Mainframe Debuggers (and a Public z/OS HTTP Server) I agree with my IBM colleague. Please get those functional requirements into IBM. Unusable, how? [And which version(s)?] We'd like to know! If you're unsure how to do that, please contact me offline. We are struggling with the debugger for several years The main problems: - very very slow - unable to handle properly multithread application - abends in various places etc etc By the way we had a common project ( a PMR) a few years ago with the Toronto Lab, we sent and received the source code, and in the source code received from them, we seen a number of printf's , debug macro's etc etc We are in z/OS 1.8 and we had WD4Z (Web Sphere) We got now a new z9, we will try again, but till now , we were unable to find any real error with the help of the debugger The hello word program, and its variants are working with the debugger, but a real complex application with DLL's , multithread not. We eat our own cooking here, it's worth mentioning. We have a number of middleware products for z/OS (and many z/OS elements) written in C++, so IBM developers use Debug Tool in-house. IBM itself probably does more C++ development on z/OS than anyone. We need good C++ debugging functionality at least as much as you do. Re: C++ support, I'm having difficulty finding any other debuggers that support C++ on z/OS, much less in both 31-bit and 64-bit modes, much less both graphically and traditionally, aside from the two IBM has (Debug Tool/DTUAF and dbx). Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken -- I hope I'm wrong -- but I've been unsuccessful in my searches thus far. I forgot to mention that there is an IBM Debug Tool test drive available, at least for the classic user interface. [I posted details previously on the test drive for the graphical workbench. But if you happen to have Rational Developer for System z or WebSphere Developer Debugger for System z, I believe we have the necessary Debug Tool TCP/IP port accessible on the test drive system for you to connect.] Start here to sign up: http://zserveros.dfw.ibm.com This test drive system is also available for trying many application development tools, DB2 tools, and IMS tools. We have Debug Tool Utilities Advanced Functions Version 8.1 (the latest release) installed on the test drive system along with a bunch of other products. We try to keep this system up-to-date with all the latest releases. By the way, zserveros.dfw.ibm.com is an Internet-connected z/OS system running the IBM HTTP Server for z/OS. Somebody was asking if there were any z/OS HTTP servers directly connected to the Internet. There are; this is one. You can verify its status here: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://zserveros.dfw.ibm.com It says Last reboot: unknown in the report. :-) It also says OS/390, and yes, I've already written them to see if they can fix that. Apparently their scanner cannot distinguish between OS/390 and z/OS. If you need 3270 emulation (to access the test drive system), you can take the Host On-Demand test drive (Try Your Own Host) here: http://websphere.dfw.ibm.com/whidemo/atdemo_hod_basics_live.html Please do not depend on the HOD test drive for real production use of course. Hope all that helps. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication,
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
The fact that file status '97' has now become 'normal' isn't the fault of the original programmer. No, it's not. But, it's somebody's fault if they don't fix it, now that they're aware of it. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
I've never seen anyone who could tell a performance imapct of keeping it on. Either system wide or individually. Ted, do you have any response time numbers or overhead numbers? Not lately, but I have seen it in a small shop with limited TSO DASD. Besides, the best I/O is no I/O. I convinced everybody, where I last worked, to turn it off. Maybe it was the placebo effect, but empirically, response improved. If I'm doing needless I/O, I have to be introducing something into the mix. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Lindy Mayfield wrote: For completeness, since I started this whole, ah, thing, I'm curious what they are. Here are the techniques I've learned so far, including the one that violates system integrity: __ The standard acceptable method is to call TSO/E Service Facility, IKJEFTSR and pass it the name of an authorized module. __ Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. This is non-standard. If it is to be implemented even on a development system then added security needs to be built in to make sure it isn't misused. I don't believe it's possible to add security to ensure this method doesn't get misused. (I'm almost sorry you posted it as an option.) The whole issue of validating the SVC caller is a hairy one. And, the requirements -- for example, to not even preserve a single register or storage address across the call -- are onerous. But, even more of a problem is the idea of setting JSCBAUTH. That flag affects all TCBs in the job step tree. It would be a fairly trivial matter for a savvy programmer to ATTACH a TCB that loops waiting for this flag to be turned on by the SVC running your code in another TCB. To protect against this, you would essentially have to make all TCBs in the address space non-dispatchable *before* JSCBAUTH was turned on. And, leave things that way until after JSCBAUTH is turned off again. This is not unlike what is done with IKJEFTSR. Your program runs under the authorized leg of the TMP. All unauthorized TCBs are made non-dispatchable while the authorized code runs. Keep in mind that similar integrity issues apply to any action that offers additional privilege to unauthorized work running asynchronously in the address space. For example, AXSET. __ Simply put all the authorized stuff into an SVC or PC routine. That's all I've collected so far. Are there more ways? Lindy -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:38:34 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote: Logging is only necessary when you are tracing variable and function calls with Dialog Test (Option 7). You forgot to say, IMO. I find it useful. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact that file status '97' has now become 'normal' isn't the fault of the original programmer. No, it's not. But, it's somebody's fault if they don't fix it, now that they're aware of it. I agree totally. I hate it when programmers incessantly whine about 'environment' changes impacting their code. Still, if the Sysplex change was described to them as 'transparent', then they should be allowed to grumble about it. For a little while anyway. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another stupid sysplex question.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:18:38 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simply assumed she was telling me the truth. Yes, we are on the same JESPLEX. And I just tested it with a coworker and it worked. I wonder what her problem really is? Trust, but verify. Except in the case of operations, application programmers and end users. Then just assume they don't know WTF they are talking about. :-) Mark p.s. I'm joking. I don't need a bunch of emails from all you operators, application programmers and end users who monitor this list. No offence taken. I am a 'senior' application programmer, and you should see some of the questions that I intercept before they get to the systems programmers. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side
I agree with what everyone has said about z/Journal. I've gotten it for years and have gotten the notice about Mainframe Executive. I just thought it was interesting and a little strange that there were articles in z/Journal about moving legacy applications from the z system to Windows. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Vaughan Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side I agree with Tom's comments on many levels. Bob has done a world of good for over 2 decades, at times providing the ONLY independent voice for mainframe users, starting from 4300 Quarterly all the way to z/Journal. He has done this often long before he had enough support to make it work, and as Tom said, he has been nothing but a strong voice and advocate for the mainframe community. He has also in fact has just started a brand new magazine called Mainframe Executive. This magazine is the very first avenue (trade show, magazine etc.) for information relevant to management levels at companies using mainframe hardware. It's a completely different approach without the technical content, to help mainframe executives cope in their world. You may want to subscribe your management team! Regards, Eric Vaughan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Moulder Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side Bob Thomas is a personal friend of mine. That may cause you to just tune out immediately. I have always seen him as a friend to the mainframe. I feel sad for anyone that would let one article in a magazine negate the effect of years of other articles. z/Journal has helped the mainframe and will continue to do so as long as there is a mainframe. Tom Moulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Vaughan Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side Here is a response to this post from Bob Thomas, the publisher of z/Journal: To some mainframe users we will be considered untrustworthy mainframe bigots in IBM's pocket. While others will think we are selling out and in Microsoft's pocket. Hard to win sometime! But, what we really want to be is an independent source of information for users of IBM mainframe systems. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Samson Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side Tom, I just got the same e-mail and thought the same thoughts. With friends like these Kelman, Tom wrote: I just got an email titled “Legacy Modernization Spotlight”. When I clicked on the links in it they took me to articles that look like they’re in the online version of z/Journal but they’re sponsored by Microsoft and talk about converting from the mainframe to Microsoft servers. Is z/Journal dropping the z and becoming Widows Journal, or am I reading the articles wrong? Here is a web link that ends up going to the same articles. Once you get to the main page click on one of the articles under the heading “In‑Depth”. http://zjournal.tcipubs.com/issues/LegacyModernization04-08.html Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: 4/14/2008 9:26 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: 4/14/2008 9:26 AM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET
Re: SPFLOG
Tom Marchant of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/15/2008 12:54:39 PM: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:38:34 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote: Logging is only necessary when you are tracing variable and function calls with Dialog Test (Option 7). You forgot to say, IMO. I find it useful. Yes, very useful. I run with the log and list allocated to a SYSOUT hold class. So far today I have around 100 or so lines in the log. Regards, John K -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Rob Weiss is not available today
I will be out of the office starting 04/14/2008 and will not return until 04/21/2008. On Vacation this week. I am checking e-mail most days and welcome phone calls. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:05 PM, John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Marchant of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/15/2008 12:54:39 PM: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:38:34 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote: Logging is only necessary when you are tracing variable and function calls with Dialog Test (Option 7). You forgot to say, IMO. I find it useful. Yes, very useful. I run with the log and list allocated to a SYSOUT hold class. So far today I have around 100 or so lines in the log. IMO, it should be turned off by default. Users who develop ISPF dialogs should be able to figure out how to turn it on for themselves. My $0.02 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Xephon, are they still in business?
Xephon did a great job in providing this service through the years. But in this day and age I don't see the need for an expensive service like this. If you look at the open source communities you will see lots of code and ideas freely exchanged between users. Apart from the several listservers the mainframe community is the only one that lacks this kind of open exchange of ideas and code. The listservers also provided a great servers during the years but it lacks a structured way in categorizing and storing valuable information. I think its time for us(old mainframers) to jump on the new age technologies like blogging, forums and wiki's to preserve our knowledge and pass it on to the next mainframe generation. -- Ian http://www.cicsworld.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DYNALLOC question
I am writing a TSO command processor. One option is to direct output to a dataset. In support of this, for new datasets, I would like to support the parms LIKE(existing.ds.name) and USING(attr-list). I can see the DALLIKE key for the LIKE parameter. I cannot see anything that relates to the USING(). I can find something in IKJDAIR for USING() but not for LIKE(). From reading about the ATTRIB command in the TSO/E book, it seems that this creates a DD statement with the given name. Does this mean that I should use the DALDCBDD key to implement USING(...)? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
Don Leahy wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:05 PM, John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Marchant of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/15/2008 12:54:39 PM: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:38:34 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote: Logging is only necessary when you are tracing variable and function calls with Dialog Test (Option 7). You forgot to say, IMO. I find it useful. Yes, very useful. I run with the log and list allocated to a SYSOUT hold class. So far today I have around 100 or so lines in the log. IMO, it should be turned off by default. Users who develop ISPF dialogs should be able to figure out how to turn it on for themselves. My $0.02 But the log can also serve as an audit trail for dataset creates, renames, and deletes. Sometims useful outside of the world of dialog development. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == call or email to receive a free sample student handout == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Xephon, are they still in business?
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:11:47 -0500, Ian wrote: Xephon did a great job in providing this service through the years. But in this day and age I don't see the need for an expensive service like this. If you look at the open source communities you will see lots of code and ideas freely exchanged between users. Apart from the several listservers the mainframe community is the only one that lacks this kind of open exchange of ideas and code. The listservers also provided a great servers during the years but it lacks a structured way in categorizing and storing valuable information. I think its time for us(old mainframers) to jump on the new age technologies like blogging, forums and wiki's to preserve our knowledge and pass it on to the next mainframe generation. EXCUSE ME?!? The mainframe community has had (1) SHARE and (2) the CBT tape (et al) for decades - many decades. (I wouldn't lump GUIDE into the same category, but it did belong in a similar category.) The mainframe community also supported city, area and regional user groups for quite a few of its subcomponents for many, many years -- up until the advent of the internet, which brought communication without travel requirements. Us (old mainframers) grew up knowing how to preserve our knowledge and pass it along. Anyone claiming the contrary is woefully uninformed. -- Tom Schmidt (Me a skeptic? You'll never be able to prove that!) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:03:11 -0500, Kelman, Tom wrote: I agree with what everyone has said about z/Journal. I've gotten it for years and have gotten the notice about Mainframe Executive. I just thought it was interesting and a little strange that there were articles in z/Journal about moving legacy applications from the z system to Windows. It is interesting, but I attribute it to the impending demise of most traditional print media. We used to get newspapers that were an inch thick on a normal week day. Today, they're 10 pages on a busy day. The Sunday paper used to barely fit in their little plastic bags. Now you can fit a whole month in one. These days you've got to take the advertising revenue where ever and when ever it comes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
Don Leahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree totally. I hate it when programmers incessantly whine about 'environment' changes impacting their code. Still, if the Sysplex change was described to them as 'transparent', then they should be allowed to grumble about it. For a little while anyway. :-) I hate it when systems programmers incessantly whine about transparent changes made to the system (with no prior notification) that completely blow an Application out-of-the-water.then grumble about it...for a while. Tom Savor Fidelity National Information Services 11720 Amber Park Drive Suite 500 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-867-8431 cell: 404-660-6898 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side
dinosaurs and chickens can coexist and each has a role to play. That was difficult to write, but any computer is a tool of some kind. I don't word process in Script and I don't do my DR backups on a PC. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
And I dislike application folks who won't test in my sandbox then complain when things blow up the first few days after a roll-up. An impasse? Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
And I dislike application folks who won't test in my sandbox then complain when things blow up the first few days after a roll-up. An impasse? That was the point. I understand that you guys are very smart folks, but you guys LOVE to point all problems at application folksits tiresome. And to your Sandbox.in our Sandboxno applications or application folks are allowed. It's systems folks play groundwhich is fine by me. Tom Savor Fidelity National Information Services 11720 Amber Park Drive Suite 500 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-867-8431 cell: 404-660-6898 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
John P Kalinich wrote: Yes, very useful. I run with the log and list allocated to a SYSOUT hold class. So far today I have around 100 or so lines in the log. It's hard to imagine that kind of low activity logging could ever be perceived as slowing things down. Look at how much goes into an MVS system trace every second! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DFHSM QUESTION - Clean Up Of ML2 Files
Good Day Gentle Readers, I am embarking on a clean up of ML2 dsns. I have encountered a problem, there is NO Management Class present for about 6,500 dsns which belong to a Y2K project. Is there a way of doing a quick clean up instead of the manual way of deleting dsn by dsn? Thanks. between -00-00 and -99-99 hr size=1Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the a href=http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/;bAll-new Yahoo! Mail /b/a -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Savor, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I dislike application folks who won't test in my sandbox then complain when things blow up the first few days after a roll-up. An impasse? That was the point. I understand that you guys are very smart folks, but you guys LOVE to point all problems at application folksits tiresome. And to your Sandbox.in our Sandboxno applications or application folks are allowed. It's systems folks play groundwhich is fine by me. Of course, without us application folks, there wouldn't be any problems at all. There would also be no point in having a computer system. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
We never learn to get along, only point fingers. I've been on both sides of the fence... I actually encourage our users to test because if they aren't successful, neither are we. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/15/2008 03:23:15 PM: -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: Don Leahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: COBOL / VSAM question. --- On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Savor, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I dislike application folks who won't test in my sandbox then complain when things blow up the first few days after a roll-up. An impasse? That was the point. I understand that you guys are very smart folks, but you guys LOVE to point all problems at application folksits tiresome. And to your Sandbox.in our Sandboxno applications or application folks are allowed. It's systems folks play groundwhich is fine by me. Of course, without us application folks, there wouldn't be any problems at all. There would also be no point in having a computer system. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Leahy wrote: IMO, it should be turned off by default. Users who develop ISPF dialogs should be able to figure out how to turn it on for themselves. My $0.02 But the log can also serve as an audit trail for dataset creates, renames, and deletes. Sometims useful outside of the world of dialog development. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock Good point, but I know of few people who use the log that way. My view may be colored by one of my 'colleagues' who recently raised an issue against an innocent ISPF dialog because his LOG data set ran into a x37 abend. When I asked him what his LOG data set settings were, he looked at me like I was speaking a foreign language. (He was using option 3, Keep data set - same). I think he needs one of your courses. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DYNALLOC question
2008/4/15 McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am writing a TSO command processor. One option is to direct output to a dataset. In support of this, for new datasets, I would like to support the parms LIKE(existing.ds.name) and USING(attr-list). Good idea! I can see the DALLIKE key for the LIKE parameter. I cannot see anything that relates to the USING(). I can find something in IKJDAIR for USING() but not for LIKE(). From reading about the ATTRIB command in the TSO/E book, it seems that this creates a DD statement with the given name. Does this mean that I should use the DALDCBDD key to implement USING(...)? I was thinking you'd use DALDCBDS to take DCB info from a DSNAME, and DALDCBDD to take it from a DDNAME. Neither of these copies space allocation info. I'm not sure what DALLIKE is for; GDGs maybe? Or maybe it copies allocation info for SMS? Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
I've been on both sides of the fence, as well. 88 GOOD-OPEN VALUE 00, 97. worked for some years. Now I'd have to throw in a few other codes if I were writing applications. And I always told people that a successful test finds a problem. If you're not finding problems, either you're not testing enough conditions or you're not thinking about the application creatively! Robert Sample IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/15/2008 03:27:55 PM: We never learn to get along, only point fingers. I've been on both sides of the fence... I actually encourage our users to test because if they aren't successful, neither are we. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TN3270 server OBEYFILE processing?
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:31:17 -0500, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pat Are you sure that there is no attempt to cancel the TN3270 server when the TCP/IP address space is stopped. ... Chris, I know we tried; I don't remember what didn't work. (I was not involved in that original attempt.) We very well may have had things defined wrong, but we don't have EZBTNINI in the SCHEDxx member on any LPAR. In any case, having our Tn3270 servers started and stopped by our automation package obviously works so we didn't worry about any further tests. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TN3270 server OBEYFILE processing?
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:28:56 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... - Supporting the latest TCP/IP release which doesn't allow any other configuration ... ... I've got to admit, that's one of the stronger arguments for going with that configuration. :-) Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL / VSAM question.
I'm almost sorry I brought this up. The particular programmer who complained about it always worked before consistantly uses that. If the program ever runs once to good EOJ, then the program is good and any subsequent failures are because something else changed. He even agreed that testing for 97 was a good idea, BUT still insisted that the program was OK as is because it never failed in the past. Oh, and the transparency of going to a basic sysplex from a monoplex was never said by Tech Services. The apps manager was the one who tooting that horn. I rarely say anything is transparent. Even installing a PTF can cause an outage due to (1) a bad PTF; (2) the closing of a hole; (3) the phase of the moon. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DCF: Can it live again?
2008/4/15 David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'll say in public: if IBM is willing to let me have the source for DCF and Bookie, I will port it to Linux for free. I want it for my own use, and I think there are others who feel the same. Is IBM DCF significantly different from the publicly available Waterloo Script? Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFHSM QUESTION - Clean Up Of ML2 Files
Check the EXPIREBV command for backups. For ML2 I suggest HSEND LIST ODS(x). Edit x to HDELETE commands and execute in batch or online snip I am embarking on a clean up of ML2 dsns. I have encountered a problem, there is NO Management Class present for about 6,500 dsns which belong to a Y2K project. Is there a way of doing a quick clean up instead of the manual way of deleting dsn by dsn? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DCF: Can it live again?
In a message dated 4/15/2008 3:07:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is IBM DCF significantly different from the publicly available Waterloo Script? Basically 'text formatting languages' DCF adds GML tags and on into XML. Both way behind La Plume(MI) and La TeX(Stanford). **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Trial execution for TR and TRT
Someone wrote: Assuming DAT on, is the performance hit related to the possibility that the following 4096 page is not in virtual memory? Lynn Wheeler wrote: way back on 360/67 ... (actually all 360s) TR used to test start start+255 (end) address of the table ... which met that if it crossed a 4k page ... it would catch both ... aka page fault both pages ... before starting instruction execution. For S/360 models with DAT. somewhere along the way ... something was raised that TR only uses that much of the table that the input data-stream might used ... for instance, if the translation input stream only had values 0-9 ... and the table was within 256 bytes of the end of an addressable region ... then the instruction might fail (with start+256 precheck) ... even tho it otherwise could succesfully execute. so the TR instruction was fixed ... if the table start is within 256 bytes of the end of an addressable boundary... it pre-executes the instruction to see if any input stream bytes would index the table across the boundary. S/360 GA22-6821-8 in the paragraph about logical operations at the beginning of the chapter and describing TR says: In cases where it is known that not all eight-bit argument values will occur, it may be possible to shorten the list. this would also theoritically have been a problem with 2k key fetch protect ... and the table was within 256 bytes of a 2k boundary (with the next 2k, fetch protected) and the input data stream never indexed anything (in the table) across the addressable boundary. It seems like it would also be a problem on non-DAT machines at 4K boundaries. It does seem to have been added fairly late in S/370, though. (At least when it got documented.) I first learned about this in Nick Tredennick's book Microprocessor Logic Design about the Micro/370. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Tredennick -- glen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:54:16 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John P Kalinich wrote: Yes, very useful. I run with the log and list allocated to a SYSOUT hold class. So far today I have around 100 or so lines in the log. It's hard to imagine that kind of low activity logging could ever be perceived as slowing things down. Look at how much goes into an MVS system trace every second! Exactly! If you want to turn it off because it you have no use, it annoys you to see the hlq.SPFLOGn.LIST has been deleted message or whatever, that is fine. But don't do it because you think it will give you some sort of performance boost. If you want to know some things that will help (like turning off RECOVERY), we should take the discussion over to ISPF-L (or consult the ISPF customization which has recommendations). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side
Dino's get the munchies every now and then Chickens seem to be good fertilizers -Original Message- Daniel McLaughlin dinosaurs and chickens can coexist and each has a role to play. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:19:08 +0200 Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :For completeness, since I started this whole, ah, thing, I'm curious :what they are. Here are the techniques I've learned so far, including :the one that violates system integrity: :__ The standard acceptable method is to call TSO/E Service Facility, :IKJEFTSR and pass it the name of an authorized module. :__ Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. This is :non-standard. If it is to be implemented even on a development system :then added security needs to be built in to make sure it isn't misused. :__ Simply put all the authorized stuff into an SVC or PC routine. :That's all I've collected so far. Are there more ways? DEBAPFIN SVC screening. -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM websites slow today? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:46:48 -0500 Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Not just IBMLink, but also the z/OS Internet Library websites are :painfully slow responding today. Anybody else notice that, or might :it be local to the Chicago area? The April CD's are now available. I downloaded about a gig yesterday. -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPFLOG
But the log can also serve as an audit trail for dataset creates, renames, and deletes. So can SMF. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Xephon, are they still in business?
If you look at the open source communities you will see lots of code and ideas freely exchanged between users. Apart from the several listservers the mainframe community is the only one that lacks this kind of open exchange of ideas and code. Excuse me? There are lots of 'open' sites with lots of code available. CBT, Mark Zeldon's site - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DCF: Can it live again?
Is IBM DCF significantly different from the publicly available Waterloo Script? I don't remember if Waterloo Script supports GML. I do recall that I didn't learn GML until I worked in a shop that used DCF. I first learned Waterloo Script, in 1976, at the University of Waterloo. The first two shops I worked at used it, as well. It wasn't until 1984, that I worked in a shop that used DCF. Then, I learned GML. So, except for that, I would say yes. PS: GML tags are just macros (in case you didn't know), and you can write/modify your own. I have done that. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:19:08 +0200, Lindy Mayfield wrote: That's all I've collected so far. Are there more ways? BPX1EXM -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
__ The standard acceptable method is to call TSO/E Service Facility, IKJEFTSR and pass it the name of an authorized module. This is the simplest way to run an authorized command and it has the virtue that all of the other tasks in the address space are frozen while you're doing your thing, so it is quite a bit safer and less complicated than rolling your own via an SVC or PC. __ Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. This is non-standard. If it is to be implemented even on a development system then added security needs to be built in to make sure it isn't misused. It is impossible to do that without opening a giant hole. No amount of security in the world can prevent that from being hacked. Abandon hope! __ Simply put all the authorized stuff into an SVC or PC routine. Bingo. If you have the wherewithal to setup the SVC or PC then this is the preferred way to go, but it still places a significant burden on you to write your code carefully so that it doesn't end up violating integrity or security controls anyway. That's all I've collected so far. Are there more ways? None that can be discussed in polite company :-) CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Binyamin said :That's all I've collected so far. Are there more ways? DEBAPFIN SVC screening. Pardon? Modifying the APF bit isn't going to do you any good in an address space that is already running since AC(1) is only relevant for job step tasks. You would have to already be running in key zero to alter it after the fact anyway, so chicken meets egg. Likewise with SVC screening; That requires building an SVC screening table in LSQA and storing the address of the SVC screen table in the TCB, so again it would require pre-conditioning by a key zero supervisor state program. AFAICT the OP wants to know how to run a Rexx exec in an authorized state so it can in turn call compiled code that requires authorization. Leaving aside the advisability of doing that, if it was going to require a serious amount of setup ahead of time, then why not just wrap the necessary functions inside of a PC or SVC and be done with it? CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Offload Process to change dasd types for spool
Hi guys, I am embarking on the task of to develop OFFLOAD, in order to make easy the process of change dasd types for spool (type 3 to type 9). Actually we are doing it by draining volumes, and replacing them as they drain, but it's becoming increasingly difficult, and time consuming. Someone can say me if already did successfully this task and tell me the followed process?. Also might be useful some instructive to execute OFFLOAD's process towards volume. I apologize for my poor english. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
