VTAM - CICS definitions
Dear listers I have got CP - CP sessions going between two different mainframe networks, lets say NETA.A and NETB.B using Enterprise extender, and now would like to establish connectivity between two CICS - CICSA (running on NETA.A) and CICSB(running on NETB.B). What do i need to define: A) do i have to create another PU on NETA.A for CICSB besides having a switched major node of NETB.B B) What do i need to define in CEDA - CSD for CONneection and SESSion parameters. It needs to be simple APPC LU6.2 connection. and yes both CPs are ICN nodes. your help or any pointer in the correct direction is much appreciated. best regards Munif -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Blast From The Past - UCB VSCR
Hello Listers I realise that this subject is old, old, old but we have never had a requirement to move UCBs above 16M as we have been happily running with a private region of 8M and have not seen any CSA (below) issues. We are now looking at a strategy of consolidating workloads on fewer z/OS systems and hence expect to see an increase in both CSA usage and SQA as more devices are defined to each system. I have seen the Redbook (SG24-4584 from 1995!) which gives some information, but I can't see anything from recent times. Can anyone please point me at some recent conventional wisdom, or is moving UCBs above a non-event? Thanks Andrew Metcalfe Barclays Bank Plc This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee, or have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete it from your system and do not copy, disclose or otherwise act upon any part of this e-mail or its attachments. Internet communications are not guaranteed to be secure or virus-free. The Barclays Group does not accept responsibility for any loss arising from unauthorised access to, or interference with, any Internet communications by any third party, or from the transmission of any viruses. Replies to this e-mail may be monitored by the Barclays Group for operational or business reasons. Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its attachments that does not relate to the business of the Barclays Group is personal to the sender and is not given or endorsed by the Barclays Group. Barclays Bank PLC.Registered in England and Wales (registered no. 1026167). Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, United Kingdom. Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Blast From The Past - UCB VSCR
Andrew Metcalfe wrote: Hello Listers I realise that this subject is old, old, old but we have never had a requirement to move UCBs above 16M as we have been happily running with a private region of 8M and have not seen any CSA (below) issues. We are now looking at a strategy of consolidating workloads on fewer z/OS systems and hence expect to see an increase in both CSA usage and SQA as more devices are defined to each system. I have seen the Redbook (SG24-4584 from 1995!) which gives some information, but I can't see anything from recent times. Can anyone please point me at some recent conventional wisdom, or is moving UCBs above a non-event? Thanks Andrew Metcalfe Barclays Bank Plc Unless you are running very, very old ISV software it should be a non-event from a system software standpoint. If you have any home written programs that process UCB's and made assumptions about their location, you might have some problems there however. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Aside from a cold appreciation of my own genius I felt that I was a modest man. Robert A. Heinlein Double Star(1956) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of Neil Duffee On 2009-12-02 at 12:14 concerning Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?, John Chase jch...@uss...com wrote to IBM-Main : From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott [snip] why [snip] bypass normal CICS storage services [snip] sounds very much like a case of Doctor, it hurts when I do this... The original request was for experiences / advice on using 64-bit storage directly in CICS, but CICS doesn't support that (yet). That eventually led to this thread. Yet being 2007 (or 2004). You apparently missed directly above. CICS Transaction Server for z/OS Release Guide Version 3 Release 2 ((c) Copyright IBM Corp. 2007) : Chapter 19. Storage management above the 2GB boundary CICS Transaction Server for z/OS Release Guide Version 3 Release 1 ((c) Copyright IBM Corp. 2004, 2008) : Chapter 18. 64-Bit Addressing Toleration changes Please cite the syntax for an application program to obtain storage above the bar. E C GETMAIN doesn't do it. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Anne Lynn Wheeler kgold...@gmail.com (Kim Goldenberg) writes: According to the Accenture item in Wikipedia, It was once part of Arthur Andersen. See the article for more information as to how the name became Accenture. long-winded related reply http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77 Hmmm . . . $50,000 in annual salary, and $176,000 in attendance fees . . .. What's an attendance fee? Is that anything like the appearance fees paid to certain famous folks for simply showing up? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:32:25 -0800, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I've been using WS_FTP Pro between Windows XP and conventional z/OS datasets for some time now with no problems. I just tried to access some OMVS files and they are displaying very strangely in WS_FTP. If I leave the filter blank, then all directories and files have access permissions (you know, strings like drwxr-xr-x) displayed instead of their names. If I set the filter to *, then the names are displayed but folders are listed as binary files with a colon appended to their names (e.g., a folder named source is displayed as a binary file named source: ) and the cd command no longer works. I can't find a relevant option. Has anyone else seen this? What am I doing wrong? Is the host type set to automatic or unix? If set to automatic, try unix. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) writes: Hmmm . . . $50,000 in annual salary, and $176,000 in attendance fees . . .. What's an attendance fee? Is that anything like the appearance fees paid to certain famous folks for simply showing up? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77 note that she was on the audit committee sarbanes-oxley was passed in response to enron ... but didn't actually do anything to address the underlying problem, evidence AIG (there have been jokes about SOX that it was just full-employment for auditors). -- 40+yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 07:38:12 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:32:25 -0800, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I've been using WS_FTP Pro between Windows XP and conventional z/OS datasets for some time now with no problems. I just tried to access some OMVS files and they are displaying very strangely in WS_FTP. If I leave the filter blank, then all directories and files have access permissions (you know, strings like drwxr-xr-x) displayed instead of their names. If I set the filter to *, then the names are displayed but folders are listed as binary files with a colon appended to their names (e.g., a folder named source is displayed as a binary file named source: ) and the cd command no longer works. I can't find a relevant option. Has anyone else seen this? What am I doing wrong? Is the host type set to automatic or unix? If set to automatic, try unix. BTW, have they fixed the problem for PDS stats when the member name is less than 6 characters? I am stuck with V7.04 on my employer's machine. WS_FTP_LE has the same problem. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS ACS and symbols
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:54:44 -0500, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote: All, Are system or installation defined system symbols other than SYSPLEX or SYSNAME available for use in ACS routines? Looking at the manuals, it is not clear. Dave - it appears you are correct. Up to release 1.11, in the z/OS V1R11.0 DFSMSdfp Storage Administration manual, lists the read-only variables and it appears those two are the only system symbols in the list. Watch the wrap. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2S280/16.3? SHELF=EZ2ZBK0HDT=20090605113740 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
How do you get to the hfs file system files from a windows ftp? All I see are regular mvs datasets. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:32:25 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: I've been using WS_FTP Pro between Windows XP and conventional z/OS datasets for some time now with no problems. I just tried to access some OMVS files and they are displaying very strangely in WS_FTP. If I leave the filter blank, then all directories and files have access permissions (you know, strings like drwxr-xr-x) displayed instead of their names. If I set the filter to *, then the names are displayed but folders are listed as binary files with a colon appended to their names (e.g., a folder named source is displayed as a binary file named source: ) and the cd command no longer works. I can't find a relevant option. Has anyone else seen this? What am I doing wrong? Probably nothing. I bet it's WS_FTP Pro. Likely it does something similar to: ftp quote syst 215 MVS is the operating system of this server. FTP Server is running on z/OS. On seeing that the host is MVS, it parses the output of an NLST (or perhaps LIST) command as if it were generated by LISTDS rather than by /bin/ls. Use linemode FTP fom a command tool. Or some other client. FileZilla? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VTAM - CICS definitions
All CICS cares about is the NETNAME (APPLID of the remote CICS region) and a correct MODENAME pointing to a valid lu 6.2 logmode. On the CONNECTION entry, just specify ACCESSMETHOD VTAM, protocol APPC. The network has to be able to find the remote CICS APPLIDs on each lpar so probably cdrsc definitions are needed on both sides. I do not know about the rest of the network setup, but it seems to me that once the CICS applids are known on both sides of the link, There should not be any problem connecting. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Munif Sadek Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: VTAM - CICS definitions Dear listers I have got CP - CP sessions going between two different mainframe networks, lets say NETA.A and NETB.B using Enterprise extender, and now would like to establish connectivity between two CICS - CICSA (running on NETA.A) and CICSB(running on NETB.B). What do i need to define: A) do i have to create another PU on NETA.A for CICSB besides having a switched major node of NETB.B B) What do i need to define in CEDA - CSD for CONneection and SESSion parameters. It needs to be simple APPC LU6.2 connection. and yes both CPs are ICN nodes. your help or any pointer in the correct direction is much appreciated. best regards Munif -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 08:08:45 -0600, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: How do you get to the hfs file system files from a windows ftp? All I see are regular mvs datasets. If you were using a dos command line interface, you would just cd / (or cd /some/directory). But this is also an FTP option whether to initially start in MVS or unix when someone connects, but most shops chose MVS: STARTDIRECTORYMVS ; Initial resource type access ; MVS = MVS data sets (D) ; HFS = HFS files When using a gui like WS_FTP, you have to tell it that unix is the target environment and also set the initial directory to somthing valid (I set it to /u/myuserid). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS ACS and symbols
Dave, Are system or installation defined system symbols other than SYSPLEX or SYSNAME available for use in ACS routines? Looking at the manuals, it is not clear. I think godzilla only gives you what is documented in the Storage Administration Reference. You can easily test this out by trying to use a locally defined symbolic in a IF statement in one of the ACS routines and try to translate it. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
- Original Message - From: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 07:38:12 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:32:25 -0800, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I've been using WS_FTP Pro between Windows XP and conventional z/OS datasets for some time now with no problems. I just tried to access some OMVS files and they are displaying very strangely in WS_FTP. If I leave the filter blank, then all directories and files have access permissions (you know, strings like drwxr-xr-x) displayed instead of their names. If I set the filter to *, then the names are displayed but folders are listed as binary files with a colon appended to their names (e.g., a folder named source is displayed as a binary file named source: ) and the cd command no longer works. I can't find a relevant option. Has anyone else seen this? What am I doing wrong? Is the host type set to automatic or unix? If set to automatic, try unix. BTW, have they fixed the problem for PDS stats when the member name is less than 6 characters? I am stuck with V7.04 on my employer's machine. WS_FTP_LE has the same problem. One of the many reasons I ditched WS-FTP-Amateur and went to BlueZone. It has no problemos with the z/OS HFS or zFS filesystems. Gotta love when a free product kicks a pay products butt. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: editting testing COBOL code (was:Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture)
At a regional user group recently IBM demo'd their RDz / Endevor plug-in (see attached Powerpoint). IBM indicated to get to Endevor from RDz install RDz V7.6 on the host. Config CARMA. Install the Endevor RAM (to configure Endevor's load module location install Actions). It was also noted that the RDz client must be either V7.6 or V7.5.1 have CARMA selected. This was in relation to Endevor R12SP3. Perhaps a call to either your IBM or CA rep could prove beneficial. Feel free to contact me off-line (valc...@nu.com) for a copy of IBM's presentation if you'd like to take a look. Good luck. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Timestamp Difference
Thanks a lot..I was so stupid to ask here for a such simple thing!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?
The syntax is found in the IBM book Authorized Assembler Services under the system service IARV64, which was mentioned in an earlier post in this thread. Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.4503 * Mobile: +1.508.341.1715 Email: bi...@mainstar.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of Neil Duffee On 2009-12-02 at 12:14 concerning Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?, John Chase jch...@uss...com wrote to IBM-Main : From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott [snip] why [snip] bypass normal CICS storage services [snip] sounds very much like a case of Doctor, it hurts when I do this... The original request was for experiences / advice on using 64-bit storage directly in CICS, but CICS doesn't support that (yet). That eventually led to this thread. Yet being 2007 (or 2004). You apparently missed directly above. CICS Transaction Server for z/OS Release Guide Version 3 Release 2 ((c) Copyright IBM Corp. 2007) : Chapter 19. Storage management above the 2GB boundary CICS Transaction Server for z/OS Release Guide Version 3 Release 1 ((c) Copyright IBM Corp. 2004, 2008) : Chapter 18. 64-Bit Addressing Toleration changes Please cite the syntax for an application program to obtain storage above the bar. E C GETMAIN doesn't do it. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DS8700 Feature FlashCopy SE
- Original Message - From: Tom Longfellow tlongfel...@verizon.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:30 PM Subject: Re: DS8700 Feature FlashCopy SE I have no statistics for how widely it is used. But I would be surprised to find out that SE was created on a whim. It is obviously an attempt to return a feature lost when IBM retired their RVA line (Snapshot). I'm also eager to see this feature in action. When IBM dumped STK back in 2000, they promised us virtual architecture in the SHARK and then reneged. It ain't virtual architecture, but it's close. SE FlashCopy should lower costs for DR backup significantly, since you won't have to double your DASD farm anymore just to SnapShot your entire DASD image. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Beating a dead horse but
Thanks to all who replied, and apologies for not tracking this in a timely manner (life intervenes, etcetera) to the thread on IEFBR14 DELETEs and HSM recalls. I had not heard of the enhancement to z/OS 1.11 that should do just what I want it to, but I'll check it out. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VTAM - CICS definitions
Munif Let us restate - one hopes accurately - your configuration: You have a VTAM node with NETID=NETA and SSCPNAME=A and another VTAM node with NETID=NETB and SSCPNAME=B. Having created Enterprise Extender (EE) definitions successfully in both VTAMs, you have established a connection between both VTAMs and over this connection and there are CP LU to CP LU sessions using mode name CPSVCMG. This being VTAM, the CP LUs are - with the exception of the diagnostic APING transaction - limited to just these sessions and the LUs take the name given by the NETID and SSCPNAME start options. You have also told us that you have specified NODETYPE=NN - for Network Node - since the classification of the VTAM node is ICN, namely an Interchange Node. The fact that you have specified SACONNS=YES (or perhaps have not specified anything for the SACONNS start option but still have some subarea number specified as a value of the HOSTSA start option) is immaterial. Since the two VTAM nodes have different NetIds, they span a network border. Thus at least one of the VTAMs also has BN=YES as a start option. Despite the fact that you mention two different mainframe networks, you do not mention any more VTAM systems, so I am assuming that these two VTAM systems are the only two systems which relate to this query. In fact it will change probably nothing if the VTAM systems supporting the CICS systems in which you are interested are not the VTAMs supporting the EE connection but VTAMs resident in the same SNA network of either a subarea or an APPN flavour. In order to create the connection between the two VTAM systems, you have set up an XCA major node in the VTAMLST data set of both VTAMs. You need to initiate the connection and so you must have created a Switched major node in one of the VTAMLST data sets containing a PU statement specifying the CP name of the partner node and a PATH statement specifying the IP address or name - as known to name servers in the IP network - of the partner node. In the other VTAMLST data set, you may have created another Switched major node containing minimally a PU statement specifying the CP name of the partner node - or - you may have specified DYNPU=YES in the GROUP statement in the XCA major node and have created a Model major node containing a PU statement with DYNTYPE=EE specified. Since you are using an EE connection, you must use APPN High Performance Routing (HPR) over the connection. This necessitates running a Rapid Transport Protocol (RTP) logical connection which incorporates the EE connection and, assuming your sessions are between the two VTAMs involved (or that the sessions are between other VTAMs but, for some odd reason, you have forced the RTP connection to be limited to the same VTAMs as support the EE connection), you may have added a PU statement with DYNTYPE=RTP to Model major nodes in one or both VTAMLST data sets.[1] So now we know what your configuration is and, specifically, what PU statements you need. - In order to create a session between an application, CICS or otherwise, in VTAM A and an application, CICS or otherwise, in VTAM B, you need rely only on definitions within the applications themselves. As far as VTAM is concerned, you can rely upon the dynamic creation of cross-domain resource (CDRSC) definitions in both VTAMs. In principle, you need to specify DYNLU=YES on the ADJCP statement which represents VTAM B in VTAM A and the ADJCP statement which represents VTAM A in VTAM B. ADJCP statements are defined within Adjacent Control Point major nodes (VBUILD TYPE=ADJCP). It is usual to rely upon VTAM to create ADJCP statements dynamically when contact is first made between VTAM and an adjacent APPN node (including a VTAM APPN node obviously). But whence is VTAM to obtain the operand values for the dynamically created ADJCP statement, most importantly the value of the DYNLU operand? The name of the statement is the contacted CP name. The value of the NETID operand is obtained from the qualifying NetId clearly. Other operands take default values which, in the case of a dynamically created ASDJCP statement means, for many operands, restrictions are not imposed. The all-important value of the DYNLU operand is obtained from the PU statement associated with this first contact between the APPN nodes. But what if the PU statement does not have the DYNLU operand specified - including the case of a PU statement itself being created dynamically because DYNPU=YES was specified on the appropriate definition statement, an XCA major node GROUP statement in the case of an EE connection? The DYNLU specification of last resort as it were is the DYNLU start option. But, beware, just letting definition values be specified by default stops here. The default value of the DYNLU start option is NO. If you want all the magic above to happen for you, you need to specify DYNLU=YES in the start options. I said above that
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
have they fixed the problem for PDS stats when the member name is less than 6 characters? What was the specific problem? I see, for example, Name VV.MM Created Changed Size Init Mod Id CC01.00 2009/12/02 2009/12/02 15:00 8 8 0 XX I can't swear that data is perfect but it looks plausible to me. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?
I found http://ibmmainframeforum.com/ but the last C question was in June and it hasnt been answered yet. :-( I found http://www.ibmmainframes.com/ but they group C questions into Other mainframe topics which is not very promising. Does anyone have any experience with the IBM C++ Café http://www-949.ibm.com/software/rational/cafe/community/ccpp?view=discussion s ? Its not mainframe-specific but a lot of the question seem to be mainframe-oriented. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VTAM - CICS definitions
Eileen The network has to be able to find the remote CICS APPLIDs on each lpar so probably cdrsc definitions are needed on both sides. This is LEN-talk[1]! You been spending too much time around the Microsoft SNA products maybe! APPN has those handy CP LU to CP LU sessions which are there - among other things/functions - to provide a distributed directory - whatever the configuration. Thus VTAM A can find out all it will ever need to know about the LUs defined within VTAM B and vice versa. Actually, in one sense, you are quite correct, CDRSC definitions *are* needed on both sides - but they are created dynamically by VTAM. Chris Mason [1] LEN = Low Entry Networking On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:16:16 -0500, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote: All CICS cares about is the NETNAME (APPLID of the remote CICS region) and a correct MODENAME pointing to a valid lu 6.2 logmode. On the CONNECTION entry, just specify ACCESSMETHOD VTAM, protocol APPC. The network has to be able to find the remote CICS APPLIDs on each lpar so probably cdrsc definitions are needed on both sides. I do not know about the rest of the network setup, but it seems to me that once the CICS applids are known on both sides of the link, There should not be any problem connecting. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Munif Sadek Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: VTAM - CICS definitions Dear listers I have got CP - CP sessions going between two different mainframe networks, lets say NETA.A and NETB.B using Enterprise extender, and now would like to establish connectivity between two CICS - CICSA (running on NETA.A) and CICSB(running on NETB.B). What do i need to define: A) do i have to create another PU on NETA.A for CICSB besides having a switched major node of NETB.B B) What do i need to define in CEDA - CSD for CONneection and SESSion parameters. It needs to be simple APPC LU6.2 connection. and yes both CPs are ICN nodes. your help or any pointer in the correct direction is much appreciated. best regards Munif -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?
What is your c/c++ question. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I found http://ibmmainframeforum.com/ but the last C question was in June and it hasn’t been answered yet. :-( I found http://www.ibmmainframes.com/ but they group C questions into “Other mainframe topics” which is not very promising. Does anyone have any experience with the IBM “C++ Café” http://www-949.ibm.com/software/rational/cafe/community/ccpp?view=discussion s ? It’s not mainframe-specific but a lot of the question seem to be mainframe-oriented. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module
Hello group. I just installed 1.11 and I have some hincky SMF problems, which I'm leaning toward blaming on an SMF IEFU83 exit. Here are some of the random errors we are getting: DFHST0103 CIAPZZAB An SMF error has occurred with return code X'14' IST435I UNABLE TO RECORD ON TUNSTATS FILE, CODE= 20 TMNT010E SMF WRITE FAILED - SMFWTM RETURN CODE IS 0014 CSQW133E MQT2 CSQWVSMF - TRACE DATA LOST, SMF NOT ACCESSIBLE RC=14 D PROG,EXIT,EN=SYSSTC.IEFU83,DIAG CSV464I 07.18.34 PROG,EXIT DISPLAY 011 EXIT SYSSTC.IEFU83 MODULESTATE EPADDRLOADPTLENGTHJOBNAME IEFU83 A 888367C0 * SDSSMF83A 96EDA300 * I see that the module's entry point address is 96EDA300, and IBM QA told me to go in to IPCS browse to look at that and see if the eye catchers indicate whos module it is, but IPCS browse of active says the storage is not available. I also tried taking a console dump of NET and SMF, and couldn't find the storage in there either. Does anyone recognize the module and know to whom it might belong? If not, any suggestions on how to browse the storage? Thanks! Mary Anne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?
I'm new to C++ so there are going to be a LOT of them. g The question of the moment is is there no 'safe' string copy library routine such as strcpy_s? I don't see it in the doc. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically? What is your c/c++ question. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: editting testing COBOL code (was:Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture)
I was also recently at a demo of RDz There was a question as to whether it supports z/OS mainframes running JES3 ? ... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Valerie M. Valcourt Sent: 03 December 2009 14:18 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: editting testing COBOL code (was:Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture) At a regional user group recently IBM demo'd their RDz / Endevor plug-in (see attached Powerpoint). IBM indicated to get to Endevor from RDz install RDz V7.6 on the host. Config CARMA. Install the Endevor RAM (to configure Endevor's load module location install Actions). It was also noted that the RDz client must be either V7.6 or V7.5.1 have CARMA selected. This was in relation to Endevor R12SP3. Perhaps a call to either your IBM or CA rep could prove beneficial. Feel free to contact me off-line (valc...@nu.com) for a copy of IBM's presentation if you'd like to take a look. Good luck. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 06:48:17 -0800, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: have they fixed the problem for PDS stats when the member name is less than 6 characters? What was the specific problem? I see, for example, Name VV.MM Created Changed Size Init Mod Id CC01.00 2009/12/02 2009/12/02 15:00 8 8 0 XX I can't swear that data is perfect but it looks plausible to me. That looks like an ISPF display (is that what WSFTP PRO shows in later releases?). In the version I have, for PDS member name less than 6 characters, the size shows 0K and the modified information is blank. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
VSMA RLS
We are currently at zOS1.9 and are looking at implementing VSAM RLS. Our maintenance is current. We're wondering if anyone has had any issues with RLS or cautions to share. On or Off list is OK by me. ddk This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module
Mary Anne, You did try to browse address 16EDA300 and not 96EDA300 in IPCS , right? Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: 03 December 2009 15:04 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module Hello group. I just installed 1.11 and I have some hincky SMF problems, which I'm leaning toward blaming on an SMF IEFU83 exit. Here are some of the random errors we are getting: DFHST0103 CIAPZZAB An SMF error has occurred with return code X'14' IST435I UNABLE TO RECORD ON TUNSTATS FILE, CODE= 20 TMNT010E SMF WRITE FAILED - SMFWTM RETURN CODE IS 0014 CSQW133E MQT2 CSQWVSMF - TRACE DATA LOST, SMF NOT ACCESSIBLE RC=14 D PROG,EXIT,EN=SYSSTC.IEFU83,DIAG CSV464I 07.18.34 PROG,EXIT DISPLAY 011 EXIT SYSSTC.IEFU83 MODULESTATE EPADDRLOADPTLENGTHJOBNAME IEFU83 A 888367C0 * SDSSMF83A 96EDA300 * I see that the module's entry point address is 96EDA300, and IBM QA told me to go in to IPCS browse to look at that and see if the eye catchers indicate whos module it is, but IPCS browse of active says the storage is not available. I also tried taking a console dump of NET and SMF, and couldn't find the storage in there either. Does anyone recognize the module and know to whom it might belong? If not, any suggestions on how to browse the storage? Thanks! Mary Anne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS ACS and symbols
I did find the list in the Ref Guide. Only SYSPLEX and SYSNAME are available, besides the SMS provided symbols. Thanks, Dave _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Kington Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMS ACS and symbols Dave, Are system or installation defined system symbols other than SYSPLEX or SYSNAME available for use in ACS routines? Looking at the manuals, it is not clear. I think godzilla only gives you what is documented in the Storage Administration Reference. You can easily test this out by trying to use a locally defined symbolic in a IF statement in one of the ACS routines and try to translate it. Regards, John This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:04:17 -0600, Mary Anne Matyaz maryanne4...@gmail.com wrote: Hello group. I just installed 1.11 and I have some hincky SMF problems, which I'm leaning toward blaming on an SMF IEFU83 exit. Here are some of the random errors we are getting: DFHST0103 CIAPZZAB An SMF error has occurred with return code X'14' IST435I UNABLE TO RECORD ON TUNSTATS FILE, CODE= 20 TMNT010E SMF WRITE FAILED - SMFWTM RETURN CODE IS 0014 CSQW133E MQT2 CSQWVSMF - TRACE DATA LOST, SMF NOT ACCESSIBLE RC=14 D PROG,EXIT,EN=SYSSTC.IEFU83,DIAG CSV464I 07.18.34 PROG,EXIT DISPLAY 011 EXIT SYSSTC.IEFU83 MODULESTATE EPADDRLOADPTLENGTHJOBNAME IEFU83 A 888367C0 * SDSSMF83A 96EDA300 * I see that the module's entry point address is 96EDA300, and IBM QA told me to go in to IPCS browse to look at that and see if the eye catchers indicate whos module it is, but IPCS browse of active says the storage is not available. I also tried taking a console dump of NET and SMF, and couldn't find the storage in there either. Does anyone recognize the module and know to whom it might belong? If not, any suggestions on how to browse the storage? Thanks! Mary Anne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Just a guess here, but I might think that SDSSMF83 belongs to some vendor product from SDS SOFTWARE. This exit is (probably) dynamically installed in your system when this product initializes. Also, you should be checking the code at address 16EDA300, not 96EDA300. The high-order bit actually indicates that this is a 31-bit address, not a 24-bit address. Or not . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VSMA RLS
Been running it for 4 years now, no problems. Just be aware that RLS is the stripped down version of TVS. RLS provides no transaction logging, so if you are using RLS outside of say CICS, then you have to do roll-your-own logging. TVS provides logging, amongst other features. You are parallel sysplex, right? There is a PSP bucket for RLS, so make sure you are current on maintenance. z/OS 1.10 provided Multiple Lock Structure(MLS) support for RLS, and the toleration maint for that was flakey for awhile, but is fine now. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Darth Keller Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: VSMA RLS We are currently at zOS1.9 and are looking at implementing VSAM RLS. Our maintenance is current. We're wondering if anyone has had any issues with RLS or cautions to share. On or Off list is OK by me. ddk This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module
Subject: IEFU83 SD From: Mary Anne Matyaz maryanne4...@gmail.com Subject: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module D PROG,EXIT,EN=SYSSTC.IEFU83,DIAG CSV464I 07.18.34 PROG,EXIT DISPLAY 011 EXIT SYSSTC.IEFU83 MODULESTATE EPADDRLOADPTLENGTHJOBNAME IEFU83 A 888367C0 * SDSSMF83A 96EDA300 * Mary Anne, the output shows a length of plain zeros for both IEFU83 and SDSSMF83. Are you sure the IEFU83 is active ? Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module
Duh. No, I was checking 9*. I wasn't even looking at the address, just cut and pasting it. Anyway, no eyecatchers worthwhile at 16EDA300. I'm looking in to whether we have any SDS software. Thanks all! MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to subscribe to the Assembler List
Paul D'Angelo wrote: Can some one post the instruction for subscribing to the assembler discussion list. Look at http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/asm370.html There on that page is a hyperlink 'Join or leave the list (or change settings)' HTH! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Small Server Mob Advantage
I believe that I have identified an interesting phenomenon in the ongoing mainframe vs distributed servers debate. I call this the 'small server mob advantage.' . We all know that the ratio of technical people to end users is much higher with the smaller servers. I consider the small servers to be a primary driver of IT employment. At first glance it might seem that the lower ratio for mainframe support would put the mainframe at an advantage in the eyes of management ... But, as it turns out, what happens is that, over the course of time, the number of people in small server support greatly exceeds the number of people in mainframe support and they form a group that actively lobbies to move everything off of the mainframe. This is the 'small server mob advantage.' . Once a conversion effort is finished and it becomes apparent that people costs now far exceed the mainframe hardware and software costs, the deed is done. To go back would require that management admit an error ... So I would advise that the mainframe folks console themselves with the fact that their small server brothers and sisters are able to find gainful employment. Email disclaimer: This email is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named herein. It may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, or an authorized representative, consider this notification that any review, copying, or distribution of this email or attachments is prohibited. If this email was received in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete the email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VTAM - CICS definitions
Thanks Chris for the explanation. I know that cdrscs can either be dynamically created or explicitly defined but do not know anything about APPN. We have an ISC Link between 2 cics regions on 2 different lpars which pass thru a security product running on a 3rd lpar and I am still trying to figure out how to get them to work correctly when one side goes down and comes back up. The links seem to work fine during the day when we are here but somehow manage to misbehave on weekends and holidays when no one is around to fix them. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: VTAM - CICS definitions Eileen The network has to be able to find the remote CICS APPLIDs on each lpar so probably cdrsc definitions are needed on both sides. This is LEN-talk[1]! You been spending too much time around the Microsoft SNA products maybe! APPN has those handy CP LU to CP LU sessions which are there - among other things/functions - to provide a distributed directory - whatever the configuration. Thus VTAM A can find out all it will ever need to know about the LUs defined within VTAM B and vice versa. Actually, in one sense, you are quite correct, CDRSC definitions *are* needed on both sides - but they are created dynamically by VTAM. Chris Mason [1] LEN = Low Entry Networking On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:16:16 -0500, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote: All CICS cares about is the NETNAME (APPLID of the remote CICS region) and a correct MODENAME pointing to a valid lu 6.2 logmode. On the CONNECTION entry, just specify ACCESSMETHOD VTAM, protocol APPC. The network has to be able to find the remote CICS APPLIDs on each lpar so probably cdrsc definitions are needed on both sides. I do not know about the rest of the network setup, but it seems to me that once the CICS applids are known on both sides of the link, There should not be any problem connecting. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Munif Sadek Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: VTAM - CICS definitions Dear listers I have got CP - CP sessions going between two different mainframe networks, lets say NETA.A and NETB.B using Enterprise extender, and now would like to establish connectivity between two CICS - CICSA (running on NETA.A) and CICSB(running on NETB.B). What do i need to define: A) do i have to create another PU on NETA.A for CICSB besides having a switched major node of NETB.B B) What do i need to define in CEDA - CSD for CONneection and SESSion parameters. It needs to be simple APPC LU6.2 connection. and yes both CPs are ICN nodes. your help or any pointer in the correct direction is much appreciated. best regards Munif -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VSMA RLS
Been running it for 4 years now, no problems. Just be aware that RLS is the stripped down version of TVS. RLS provides no transaction logging, so if you are using RLS outside of say CICS, then you have to do roll-your-own logging. TVS provides logging, amongst other features. You are parallel sysplex, right? There is a PSP bucket for RLS, so make sure you are current on maintenance. z/OS 1.10 provided Multiple Lock Structure(MLS) support for RLS, and the toleration maint for that was flakey for awhile, but is fine now. Dave Jousma Yes, we are running parallel sysplex. Currently we're only planning on using this with CICS and eventually HSM. ddk This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Small Server Mob Advantage
Warner Mach wrote: I believe that I have identified an interesting phenomenon in the ongoing mainframe vs distributed servers debate. I call this the 'small server mob advantage.' . We all know that the ratio of technical people to end users is much higher with the smaller servers. I consider the small servers to be a primary driver of IT employment. At first glance it might seem that the lower ratio for mainframe support would put the mainframe at an advantage in the eyes of management ... But, as it turns out, what happens is that, over the course of time, the number of people in small server support greatly exceeds the number of people in mainframe support and they form a group that actively lobbies to move everything off of the mainframe. This is the 'small server mob advantage.' . Once a conversion effort is finished and it becomes apparent that people costs now far exceed the mainframe hardware and software costs, the deed is done. To go back would require that management admit an error ... So I would advise that the mainframe folks console themselves with the fact that their small server brothers and sisters are able to find gainful employment. H. I would advise the mainframe folks to be alert and fight the battle early, then. We need to stand up and be counted (although we may have to do it subtley / indirectly for political reasons). Your points are exactly the kind of information that needs to be promulgated before it's too late. Although it may already be too late. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module
Walter, that's what the display looks like on my 1.10 systems...I have the following in a d smf,o: SUBSYS(OMVS,EXITS(IEFU83)) -- PARMLIB SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFU83)) -- PARMLIB SYS(EXITS(IEFU83)) MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?
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[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills
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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for
mainframe C/C++ specifically?
I'm new to C++ so there are going to be a LOT of them. g
The question of the moment is is there no 'safe' string copy library
routine such as strcpy_s? I don't see it in the doc.
Charles
Out of curiousity, I looked at the MSDN article for strcpy_s. Basically, it
copies the bytes from one area to another, but only if the entire source will
fit in the destination area (the size of which is passed in the strcpy_s parm
list). If there is any problem, then the destination is not modified at all.
I don't see any such in z/OS C, but you could roll your own. I'd likely use
memcpy(). Something like:
#define _X_OPEN
#include string.h
#include errno.h
int strcpy_s(char *dest, size_t elements, const char *source) {
size_t src_len;
if (dest == NULL) return EINVAL;
if (source == NULL) return EINVAL;
if (elements == 0) return ERANGE;
src_len=strlen(source)+1; /* add 1 to include \0 terminator */
if (src_len elements) return ERANGE;
memcpy(dest,source,src_len);
return 0;
}
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Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37
Have you considered using batch job executing IEBGENER with SYSUT2 assigned to an internal reader and make SYSUT1 a concatenation of 2 files - the first would contain only the JOB statement and the second the file from the vendor? I have done this with some other very large files. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Date / Time simulation?
CA has published fixes for the issue TSS 12.0 fix RO12732 TSS 9.0 test fix BHD8665 -Original Message- Porowski, Ken If I read the alert from CA properly they do not recognize a 2010 TEMPDSN properly otherwise all would be fine. The workaround is to add specific rules for the 2010 TEMPDSN dataset name format to allow access to all users. Top Secret does allow a SYS1 (no dot) as a valid generic dataset prefix -Original Message- Ken Porowski 2010 may be bad enough Temporary dataset names will begin with SYS10ddd (SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RAnnn.jobname.Rnnn) Depending on your security software (RACF, ACF2, Top Secret) and your specific rules the SYS10 could fall under rules meant for SYS1 datasets which are hopefully well protected. CA issued an alert for Top Secret users, not sure about RACF or ACF2. It's the kind of thing you would like to test in advance rather than getting a call just after midnight on 01/01/2010 when you're half blotto. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Small Server Mob Advantage
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Warner Mach I believe that I have identified an interesting phenomenon in the ongoing mainframe vs distributed servers debate. I call this the 'small server mob advantage.' . We all know that the ratio of technical people to end users is much higher with the smaller servers. I consider the small servers to be a primary driver of IT employment. At first glance it might seem that the lower ratio for mainframe support would put the mainframe at an advantage in the eyes of management ... But, as it turns out, what happens is that, over the course of time, the number of people in small server support greatly exceeds the number of people in mainframe support and they form a group that actively lobbies to move everything off of the mainframe. This is the 'small server mob advantage.' . Once a conversion effort is finished and it becomes apparent that people costs now far exceed the mainframe hardware and software costs, the deed is done. To go back would require that management admit an error ... So I would advise that the mainframe folks console themselves with the fact that their small server brothers and sisters are able to find gainful employment. A similar observation might be made regarding Java vs. COBOL. Two reasons I hear frequently for abandoning COBOL in favor of Java are (1) COBOL is arcane and (2) Java programmers are far less expensive than COBOL programmers. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DS8700 Feature FlashCopy SE
I have no statistics for how widely it is used. But I would be surprised to find out that SE was created on a whim. It is obviously an attempt to return a feature lost when IBM retired their RVA line (Snapshot). I'm also eager to see this feature in action. When IBM dumped STK back in 2000, they promised us virtual architecture in the SHARK and then reneged. It ain't virtual architecture, but it's close. SE FlashCopy should lower costs for DR backup significantly, since you won't have to double your DASD farm anymore just to SnapShot your entire DASD image. Regards, Tom Conley First off - I greatly appreciate the feed back. This feature will greatly reduce our flashcopy 'administrative' overhead in addition to reducing the amount of dasd reserved for flashcopies. A big drawback I see is once the repository is defined for the virtual volumes it can not be changed. Thanks Again, Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
There are at least two PDS member cases: with ISPF statistics and without. Is there any product that routinely gives sizes for pure (non-ISPF-saved) PDS members? So I assume you're talking about ISPF-saved member statistics. Correct me if I am wrong. WS_FTP Pro 12 displays PDS members two ways. (I'm working from memory because I don't have FTP up at the moment and my DFW z/OS is asleep so it's not a 5-second job to get on-line.) In its basic 2-panel Windows explorer screen it shows name, size, modified, etc. for each member (as I recall). Unfortunately the text is not cut-and-paste so that is not what I sent below. As I recall it has the information for ISPF-saved members but not for non-ISPF-saved members. Write me off-line if you want a screen shot showing long and short member names with and without ISPF stats. There's also a button called Directory Info. Clicking that brings up a notepad session with directory information in it, kind of like what you might get if you opened LISTDS output in an editor. That's what I cut-and-pasted from below. The 8 below is presumably an ISPF line count. I think that 8 is a plausible line count for that member. It's a small job that just runs one proc. It's certainly not 8 bytes (tough for an LRECL=80 file) and it's certainly not 8K. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 06:48:17 -0800, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: have they fixed the problem for PDS stats when the member name is less than 6 characters? What was the specific problem? I see, for example, Name VV.MM Created Changed Size Init Mod Id CC01.00 2009/12/02 2009/12/02 15:00 8 8 0 XX I can't swear that data is perfect but it looks plausible to me. That looks like an ISPF display (is that what WSFTP PRO shows in later releases?). In the version I have, for PDS member name less than 6 characters, the size shows 0K and the modified information is blank. Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?
Thanks. Right. I was thinking of several such possibilities.
There are also safe versions of many of the char[] functions including
sprintf, so several of these would have to be written. sprintf would be a
little trickier than the below.
I was just surprised that IBM did not provide safe versions given that (in
my informal survey of malware issues) the number one cause of security
problems in software is buffer overrun.
Charles
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I'm new to C++ so there are going to be a LOT of them. g
The question of the moment is is there no 'safe' string copy library
routine such as strcpy_s? I don't see it in the doc.
Charles
Out of curiousity, I looked at the MSDN article for strcpy_s. Basically, it
copies the bytes from one area to another, but only if the entire source
will fit in the destination area (the size of which is passed in the
strcpy_s parm list). If there is any problem, then the destination is not
modified at all. I don't see any such in z/OS C, but you could roll your
own. I'd likely use memcpy(). Something like:
#define _X_OPEN
#include string.h
#include errno.h
int strcpy_s(char *dest, size_t elements, const char *source) {
size_t src_len;
if (dest == NULL) return EINVAL;
if (source == NULL) return EINVAL;
if (elements == 0) return ERANGE;
src_len=strlen(source)+1; /* add 1 to include \0 terminator */
if (src_len elements) return ERANGE;
memcpy(dest,source,src_len);
return 0;
}
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Re: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module
Ok, so it WAS SDS, VSV agent. According to their website, a zap is required for z/OS 1.11. What threw me was there were two entry points, VSVSMF83 and SDSSMF83. I knew what VSV was, and had removed his exit from IEFU83, but it didn't solve my problem, so I thought SDS was the culprit, but couldn't figure out who he was. In our shop, the TCPIP guys do their own Vendor installs, so this is not one we maintain. So add that to the list of IEFU83 issues...I think there was one mentioned at Share, mainstar maybe? Thanks again everyone. MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 08:31:44 -0800, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: So I assume you're talking about ISPF-saved member statistics. Correct me if I am wrong. Yes WS_FTP Pro 12 displays PDS members two ways. (I'm working from memory because I don't have FTP up at the moment and my DFW z/OS is asleep so it's not a 5-second job to get on-line.) In its basic 2-panel Windows explorer screen it shows name, size, modified, etc. for each member (as I recall). Unfortunately the text is not cut-and-paste so that is not what I sent below. This is the display I am referring to. For member names of 5 characters or less, the size is displayed as 0K and the modified information is blank (in WS_FTP LE, size shows up as blank, not 0K). There's also a button called Directory Info. Clicking that brings up a notepad session with directory information in it, kind of like what you might get if you opened LISTDS output in an editor. That's what I cut-and-pasted from below. Yes, that works - even in WSFTP LE. It is the explorer display that I use for a transfer. I often just want to transfer the last updated PDS member(s) so I want to click on the modified column from the explorer display. If the member is 5 chars or less, there is nothing to sort on since the information is blank. This is the part I was curious about to see if it had ever been fixed. It's possible I could get a newer version by opening a help desk ticket. I have Bluezone (Seagull), but since I've used WSFTP LE since my first days of using an FTP GUI, I've always been more comfortable using WSFTP Pro. It is also integrated with my workstation that my employer provides. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?
strcpy_s is part of proposed standardization: ISO/IEC TR 24731. It is already implemented by Microsoft. IBM has not yet included it in its libraries. Sam On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I'm new to C++ so there are going to be a LOT of them. g The question of the moment is is there no 'safe' string copy library routine such as strcpy_s? I don't see it in the doc. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically? What is your c/c++ question. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Small Server Mob Advantage
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Warner Mach wrote: I believe that I have identified an interesting phenomenon in the ongoing mainframe vs distributed servers debate. I call this the 'small server mob advantage.' . We all know that the ratio of technical people to end users is much higher with the smaller servers. I consider the small servers to be a primary driver of IT employment. At first glance it might seem that the lower ratio for mainframe support would put the mainframe at an advantage in the eyes of management ... But, as it turns out, what happens is that, over the course of time, the number of people in small server support greatly exceeds the number of people in mainframe support and they form a group that actively lobbies to move everything off of the mainframe. This is the 'small server mob advantage.' . Once a conversion effort is finished and it becomes apparent that people costs now far exceed the mainframe hardware and software costs, the deed is done. To go back would require that management admit an error ... So I would advise that the mainframe folks console themselves with the fact that their small server brothers and sisters are able to find gainful employment. H. I would advise the mainframe folks to be alert and fight the battle early, then. We need to stand up and be counted (although we may have to do it subtley / indirectly for political reasons). Your points are exactly the kind of information that needs to be promulgated before it's too late. Although it may already be too late. Frequently the problem is not that the information is not promulgated timely, but rather that the information is ignored. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
I always use FileZilla which I'm not the fondest of. But it works! To browse HFS, just put '/' where the 'DATASET' path is. You may need to put single quotes around it if you're stuck in it's MVS-mode. Scott On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: There are at least two PDS member cases: with ISPF statistics and without. Is there any product that routinely gives sizes for pure (non-ISPF-saved) PDS members? So I assume you're talking about ISPF-saved member statistics. Correct me if I am wrong. WS_FTP Pro 12 displays PDS members two ways. (I'm working from memory because I don't have FTP up at the moment and my DFW z/OS is asleep so it's not a 5-second job to get on-line.) In its basic 2-panel Windows explorer screen it shows name, size, modified, etc. for each member (as I recall). Unfortunately the text is not cut-and-paste so that is not what I sent below. As I recall it has the information for ISPF-saved members but not for non-ISPF-saved members. Write me off-line if you want a screen shot showing long and short member names with and without ISPF stats. There's also a button called Directory Info. Clicking that brings up a notepad session with directory information in it, kind of like what you might get if you opened LISTDS output in an editor. That's what I cut-and-pasted from below. The 8 below is presumably an ISPF line count. I think that 8 is a plausible line count for that member. It's a small job that just runs one proc. It's certainly not 8 bytes (tough for an LRECL=80 file) and it's certainly not 8K. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 06:48:17 -0800, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: have they fixed the problem for PDS stats when the member name is less than 6 characters? What was the specific problem? I see, for example, Name VV.MM Created Changed Size Init Mod Id CC01.00 2009/12/02 2009/12/02 15:00 8 8 0 XX I can't swear that data is perfect but it looks plausible to me. That looks like an ISPF display (is that what WSFTP PRO shows in later releases?). In the version I have, for PDS member name less than 6 characters, the size shows 0K and the modified information is blank. Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Small Server Mob Advantage
Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Warner Mach wrote: I believe that I have identified an interesting phenomenon in the ongoing mainframe vs distributed servers debate. I call this the 'small server mob advantage.' . We all know that the ratio of technical people to end users is much higher with the smaller servers. I consider the small servers to be a primary driver of IT employment. At first glance it might seem that the lower ratio for mainframe support would put the mainframe at an advantage in the eyes of management ... But, as it turns out, what happens is that, over the course of time, the number of people in small server support greatly exceeds the number of people in mainframe support and they form a group that actively lobbies to move everything off of the mainframe. This is the 'small server mob advantage.' . Once a conversion effort is finished and it becomes apparent that people costs now far exceed the mainframe hardware and software costs, the deed is done. To go back would require that management admit an error ... So I would advise that the mainframe folks console themselves with the fact that their small server brothers and sisters are able to find gainful employment. H. I would advise the mainframe folks to be alert and fight the battle early, then. We need to stand up and be counted (although we may have to do it subtley / indirectly for political reasons). Your points are exactly the kind of information that needs to be promulgated before it's too late. Although it may already be too late. Frequently the problem is not that the information is not promulgated timely, but rather that the information is ignored. -jc- I hate ignorance! :-) How do you overcome that? (In a way that is not job threatening?) -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
criteria during PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (PSM)
This is a curiosity question. I noticed that I have one or two datasets daily that get migrated during PSM that have one track and the minimum age (via MgmtClas criteria). There are numerous other datasets that have much larger allocation and longer age that aren't migrated. PSM has no trouble keeping the volumes at their StorGrp Migration Level. TIA Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?
OPINION TIME! The safe versions are not safer than using some of the others which include the length of the destination buffer. Such as strncpy, strncmp, and so on. The strn... functions are multiplatform and standard. The str..._s functions, from what I have read on the Web, are a Microsoft invention. They are not ISO or ANSI standard functions, but are being considered. And, according to one person, were invented by MS strictly as a way to make it more difficult to port code using them to other systems. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically? Thanks. Right. I was thinking of several such possibilities. There are also safe versions of many of the char[] functions including sprintf, so several of these would have to be written. sprintf would be a little trickier than the below. I was just surprised that IBM did not provide safe versions given that (in my informal survey of malware issues) the number one cause of security problems in software is buffer overrun. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Small Server Mob Advantage
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Small Server Mob Advantage Chase, John wrote: SNIPPAGE Frequently the problem is not that the information is not promulgated timely, but rather that the information is ignored. -jc- I hate ignorance! :-) How do you overcome that? (In a way that is not job threatening?) SNIPPAGE Perhaps what needs to be done is point out that what they are really trying to get away from is the expense of z/OS or z/VSE, etc. But what they really need is the low cost of Linux that runs on z/ARCH with z/VM managing. The end result is RAPID recovery in a BCP (Biz Continuity Plan) test with business processes running and available much quicker. Also, less power consumption, with greater throughput because of the integrated I/O that z/Architecture provides under the covers to an operating system. Just my opinion having been though more than one, We gotta get off the mainframe projects (most of which were abysmal failures costing MEGA $$). Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not reflect those held by poster's employer -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module
So add that to the list of IEFU83 issues...I think there was one mentioned at Share, mainstar maybe? The Mainstar code was fixed before GA. Frankly, since SDS provided also provided a fix, I would consider this a user error. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
Mark, WS_FTP 12 Pro displays the stats (and sorts the modified column) just fine for PDS member names of any length. I just tested it with names less than 5 characters and it worked fine for 1, 2, 3 character member names. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Internet-enable your applications with z/Ware V2 Voice: 214-800-8900 X#5562 -- This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and confirm that it has been deleted from your system and any copies destroyed. If you are not the intended recipient you are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this e-mail or any information contained in it. We use reasonable measures to virus scan all E-mails leaving illustro but no warranty is given that this E-mail and any attachments are virus free. You should ensure you have adequate measures in place for your own virus checking. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly It is the explorer display that I use for a transfer. I often just want to transfer the last updated PDS member(s) so I want to click on the modified column from the explorer display. If the member is 5 chars or less, there is nothing to sort on since the information is blank. This is the part I was curious about to see if it had ever been fixed. It's possible I could get a newer version by opening a help desk ticket. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module
Wow, not sure what I did to draw that ire. I was simply trying to help other people avoid my mistake. Yes, I did say my. I was unaware that only vendor problems can be posted to the list. I'll crawl back under my rock now, suitably chastised. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:23:40 -0600, Chuck Arney car...@illustro.com wrote: Mark, WS_FTP 12 Pro displays the stats (and sorts the modified column) just fine for PDS member names of any length. I just tested it with names less than 5 characters and it worked fine for 1, 2, 3 character member names. Thanks Chuck. If anyone can confirm a release higher than 7 but lower than 12 that also works, I'd be interested to know since I have know idea what version I may be able to get when I contact the local help desk (I hope they have something more current available). Offline email is fine. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: criteria during PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (PSM)
Lack of ML1 space? What do the HSM migration logs say? Hint MSGARC0734I If SMS managed, what is the MGMTCLAS and the attributes assigned? snip This is a curiosity question. I noticed that I have one or two datasets daily that get migrated during PSM that have one track and the minimum age (via MgmtClas criteria). There are numerous other datasets that have much larger allocation and longer age that aren't migrated. PSM has no trouble keeping the volumes at their StorGrp Migration Level. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
Accenture was originally the IT consulting division of Arthur Anderson. That is why they took the name Anderson Consulting. They then were spun off from Arthur Anderson as a separate company and took the name Accenture. Joel Wolpert Performance and Capacity Planning consultant WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com On 2 Dec 2009 00:17:46 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) wrote: Does anyone remember who Accenture was? Arthur Andersen, IIRC. No. Former name of Accenture was Andersen Consulting (www.ac.com), not Arthur Andersen. It was separate entity lng time before Enron bankrupcy. If Accenture was Anderson Consulting and Anderson Consulting was Arthur Anderson, then Accenture was Arthur Anderson. I've worked with people who said they were one, and with people who said they were the other. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
Then Accenture must have inherited the fortune Anderson made off of Install-1. We still have the product although I personally do not have to maintain it - I think that Accenture or some Vendor has to be called in each time an upgrade is needed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Joel Wolpert Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture Accenture was originally the IT consulting division of Arthur Anderson. That is why they took the name Anderson Consulting. They then were spun off from Arthur Anderson as a separate company and took the name Accenture. Joel Wolpert Performance and Capacity Planning consultant WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com On 2 Dec 2009 00:17:46 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) wrote: Does anyone remember who Accenture was? Arthur Andersen, IIRC. No. Former name of Accenture was Andersen Consulting (www.ac.com), not Arthur Andersen. It was separate entity lng time before Enron bankrupcy. If Accenture was Anderson Consulting and Anderson Consulting was Arthur Anderson, then Accenture was Arthur Anderson. I've worked with people who said they were one, and with people who said they were the other. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Small Server Mob Advantage
In my opinion management doesn't care. Most management have a better understanding of small servers than MF so they naturally gravitate to this. As much as the MF people try to make a case the natural bias of management always comes out, which affects the decision. Also, the people cost is usually hidden in separate buckets so that the people making the decision to move from the MF to UNIX/LINUX servers still get gold stars for saving costs. Joel Wolpert Performance and Capacity Planning consultant WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com - Original Message - Chase, John wrote: SNIPPAGE Frequently the problem is not that the information is not promulgated timely, but rather that the information is ignored. -jc- I hate ignorance! :-) How do you overcome that? (In a way that is not job threatening?) SNIPPAGE Perhaps what needs to be done is point out that what they are really trying to get away from is the expense of z/OS or z/VSE, etc. But what they really need is the low cost of Linux that runs on z/ARCH with z/VM managing. The end result is RAPID recovery in a BCP (Biz Continuity Plan) test with business processes running and available much quicker. Also, less power consumption, with greater throughput because of the integrated I/O that z/Architecture provides under the covers to an operating system. Just my opinion having been though more than one, We gotta get off the mainframe projects (most of which were abysmal failures costing MEGA $$). Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not reflect those held by poster's employer -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Small Server Mob Advantage
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. ma...@resa.net (Warner Mach) writes: I believe that I have identified an interesting phenomenon in the ongoing mainframe vs distributed servers debate. I call this the 'small server mob advantage.' there are numerous situations (not just servers) were there can be smaller upfront/initial costs ... but scale less well. an earlier version of this was huge proliferation in 4341s (actually mid-range, dec/vax experienced something similar in the same market). cluster of six 4341s were cheaper than 3033, had more aggregate mips, more aggregate storage, and more aggregate channels and more aggregate i/o capacity. some of the big customers would order 4341s in multiples of a hundred at a time (something that dec/vax didn't really see). misc. old 4341 related email http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341 going into mid-80s ... there was some anticipation that 4381s would see similar success ... however, by that time, the mid-range market was starting to shift to workstations large PCs. SHARE had some statements that 4341s would have seen even larger penetration (at expense of dec/vax) ... but dec/vax had lower entry carefeeding costs (i.e. less effort and lower skill level). At the time, some internal locations were bursting at the seams in terms of raised floor and 4341s were solution to installing additional computing power ... out in department areas (at some locations, conference rooms became a very scarce resource ... because so many were being taken over for 4341s). The other big (distributed 4341) innovation was much easier/faster to roll-out new feature/function ... compared to datacenter. Moving more of the virtual machine function into the hardware ... for LPARs ... was partially response to Amdahl's hypervisor but it also provided some capability to helping testing new feature/function in (single) large consolidated mainframe resource environment (that had enormous barriers to change/adapting). A relatively funny joke from the period ... was that JES2 networking tables effectively was part of large system change control. The internal network had significantly more nodes than could be defined in JES2 ... and so most MVS systems were restricted to edge nodes. Internal users that actually tried to do things from MVS systems were constantly attempting to deal with those network nodes that were currently defined in that particular system (and just getting change to the JES2 network table frequently would take a month or two ... as part of the next MVS system load/test) ... this was aggrevated by JES2 tossing traffic if it didn't have the destination node defined (in case the traffic might have to go someplace else) ... but also would toss traffic if it didn't have the originating node defined. This was in an environment when not only were there much large number of network nodes ... than could be defined in JES2 ... but one or more new network nodes might be coming online everyday (someplace in the world) ... old reference to list of internal locations that had one or more new networking nodes in 1983 (internal network had more nodes than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until possibly late '85 or early '86) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8 misc. past posts mentioning internal network http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet -- 40+yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly I always use FileZilla which I'm not the fondest of. But it works! Last I tried, the current version of Filezilla didn't to z/OS SSL secured FTP. Has that changed? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005bde01...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 12/02/2009 at 07:49 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: What! You don't fondly remember the joys of running a Stage 1 / Stage 2 sysgen? Not in 1960. Or doing an EDT gen by throwing away jobs and steps from the Stage 2? What was wrong with doing a normal I/O gen? HCD makes that so easy a caveman can do it (sm). Then why are there so many HCD questions here? That was when men were men and grrls weren't allowed into the sanctified areas of DP. It may have been when men were men and sheep were scared, but I believe that Gracie got into the business well before I did. I'm not sure whether it is fair to cite Ada Countess Lovelace, who was also before my time. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
In lsbdh5pvk7n0d4t0s4s4js5dgktejre...@4ax.com, on 12/02/2009 at 11:22 AM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu said: But we do complain about how complex things have gotten, how we have far more people working on infrastructure instead of applications, and how vulnerabilities have increased. I complain about how many people tinker with things that they don't understand, but I don't complain about tools that make my job easier, and I don't complain about their being too many tools for one man to master all of them. This is kind of wishing we could work on our cars the same way as we worked on the 1958 Chevy. That's one kind of complaint. Another kind is to wish that they designed cars to last as long as they used to. but our cars are better now. Are they? They're not designed to the same engineering standards, and in some cases safety has been compromised in the name of convenience, e.g., replacing sturdy seat belts with dangerous air bags. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005bde01...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 12/02/2009 at 10:08 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: There is an ongoing discussion on the CICS-L list about doing a STORAGE macro or GETMAIN/FREEMAIN. Some are saying that these functions can result in a wait for the CICS QR TCB (the TCB under which most of the CICS transactions are run). They can result in a delay for the local lock. So can using CICS services that do a STORAGE or GETMAIN under the covers. If that's a performance issue then it's time to investigate splitting the CICS address space. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
In 4b15bc63.9070...@ync.net, on 12/01/2009 at 07:01 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net said: I wouldn't mind looking back at the good old days, but only for hysterical purposes. SIO/TIO/HIO are NOT areas I would care to revisit for any productive purpose. :-) That was the progressive new era; the good old days[1] involved punched cards, plug boards and vacuum tubes[2]. [1] For me; I've seen a couple of posters who go back further. [2] Valves if you're in the UK. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37
In 94c476c03bff5e42ac3518fdac9643c4e2dea1f...@hqmail.rocketsoftware.com, on 12/02/2009 at 11:31 AM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com said: It can always be worse. I once saw a vendor's SE give a 10- or 20-page printout to a colleague of mine, who then sat at a keypunch for several hours punching cards to match the VERIFY and ZAP hex data for the dozens of PTFs described in said hand-out. This vendor apparently could not understand how error-prone their preferred method of distributing maintenance was. I hate to cast aspersions on any vendor, but the product might have been Eye Dee Emm Ess before its owner was bought by CA. Then there was transcribing DIDOCS fixes from EWS microfiche and discovering that they were untested; they consistently had only EQU where a DC was needed. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEC143I 213-30
In 4b1662c2.6f0f.008...@efirstbank.com, on 12/02/2009 at 12:51 PM, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com said: So perhaps a combination of the two is in order. Write to a temporary PDS during the translate and then use DISP=OLD on the copy from the temp PDS in to the actual PDS. The Initiator does the DISP=OLD ENQ at the beginning of the job. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
It's supported FTPS for some time now. It just lacks a lot of customization. Honestly, FileZilla is a pretty terrible FTP client. But there's really not too many clients that I'd say are good, for Windows. On Mac I've got some very well-done choices. It will do what you want it to, which is why I grudgingly use it. I still click around hoping to find a way to tweak a few options, but it's just very bare bones in that regard. Scott On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly I always use FileZilla which I'm not the fondest of. But it works! Last I tried, the current version of Filezilla didn't to z/OS SSL secured FTP. Has that changed? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
Dave Gibney of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 12/03/2009 12:48:37 PM: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly I always use FileZilla which I'm not the fondest of. But it works! Last I tried, the current version of Filezilla didn't to z/OS SSL secured FTP. Has that changed? Filezilla supports FTP TLS/SSL transfers. Regards, John K -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: criteria during PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (PSM)
snip Lack of ML1 space? What do the HSM migration logs say? Hint MSGARC0734I If SMS managed, what is the MGMTCLAS and the attributes assigned? /snip These DSN go directly to ML2 (which I should have stated) so ML1 isn't an issue. Since there isn't any errors, there's no msgARC0734I SMS Mclass: PRIMARY LEVEL 1 DAYS DAYS 170 Attributes vary but the DSNs are PS and FB or VB and they have a default DataClass. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEFU83 SDSSMF83 module
snip The Mainstar code was fixed before GA. Frankly, since SDS provided also provided a fix, I would consider this a user error. /snip Paranoia seems to have raised its head. I didn't see anything accusatory in this thread and how many times have 'users issues/errors' been involved in addressing threads! Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
I must have something wrong. I just installed the latest. 3.3.0.1 and I still get: Trace: CTransferSocket::OnReceive(), m_transferMode=0 Trace: GnuTLS error -9: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Status: Server did not properly shut down TLS connection Error: Could not read from transfer socket: ECONNABORTED - Connection aborted Trace: CTransferSocket::TransferEnd(3) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly It's supported FTPS for some time now. It just lacks a lot of customization. Honestly, FileZilla is a pretty terrible FTP client. But there's really not too many clients that I'd say are good, for Windows. On Mac I've got some very well-done choices. It will do what you want it to, which is why I grudgingly use it. I still click around hoping to find a way to tweak a few options, but it's just very bare bones in that regard. Scott On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly I always use FileZilla which I'm not the fondest of. But it works! Last I tried, the current version of Filezilla didn't to z/OS SSL secured FTP. Has that changed? - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?
I would like to second that. With some of the new MS compilers, you have to define a symbol _CRT_SECURE_NO_DEPRECATE; if not, you get warning messages on every call of strcpy, sprintf and so on. While I agree that the NULL terminated strings and the C string library are a bad idea from the start (coming from PDP-x and Unix, AFAIK), we have to live with it, because it's standard and portable. And, if handled carefully, you can write safe programs, even if you use these unsafe functions. For example, all my programs use a standard function handling argc/argv positional parameters, giving the possibility for keyword parameters with defaults, maximum lengths, type checks and so on, and all buffer overruns etc. due to wrong parameters are impossible, if you use this function. Kind regards Bernd McKown, John schrieb: OPINION TIME! The safe versions are not safer than using some of the others which include the length of the destination buffer. Such as strncpy, strncmp, and so on. The strn... functions are multiplatform and standard. The str..._s functions, from what I have read on the Web, are a Microsoft invention. They are not ISO or ANSI standard functions, but are being considered. And, according to one person, were invented by MS strictly as a way to make it more difficult to port code using them to other systems. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
On 3 Dec 2009 10:55:03 -0800, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: This is kind of wishing we could work on our cars the same way as we worked on the 1958 Chevy. That's one kind of complaint. Another kind is to wish that they designed cars to last as long as they used to. Back when it was news when cars lasted a couple of hundred thousand miles. but our cars are better now. Are they? They're not designed to the same engineering standards, and in some cases safety has been compromised in the name of convenience, e.g., replacing sturdy seat belts with dangerous air bags. Huh? The 1958 Chevy didn't have seatbelts, today's cars do. And it is no longer though of as odd at all when a car goes a couple of hundred thousand miles. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
Where's the trace coming from? What are you connecting to? There's a lot of questions about your setup that I'd wonder about, before being able to begin diagnosing the issue. You're welcome to snowball me with info about how you're doing things, if you'd like some help. No guarantees, but I've been through hell and back with the Digital Certificate stuff--so I've gotten quite good at figuring out what's wrong/where. Scott On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: I must have something wrong. I just installed the latest. 3.3.0.1 and I still get: Trace: CTransferSocket::OnReceive(), m_transferMode=0 Trace: GnuTLS error -9: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Status: Server did not properly shut down TLS connection Error: Could not read from transfer socket: ECONNABORTED - Connection aborted Trace: CTransferSocket::TransferEnd(3) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly It's supported FTPS for some time now. It just lacks a lot of customization. Honestly, FileZilla is a pretty terrible FTP client. But there's really not too many clients that I'd say are good, for Windows. On Mac I've got some very well-done choices. It will do what you want it to, which is why I grudgingly use it. I still click around hoping to find a way to tweak a few options, but it's just very bare bones in that regard. Scott On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly I always use FileZilla which I'm not the fondest of. But it works! Last I tried, the current version of Filezilla didn't to z/OS SSL secured FTP. Has that changed? - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?
Not to mention that most would not consider M$ as the leading authorities on how to write safe C/C++ code :-) On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: OPINION TIME! The safe versions are not safer than using some of the others which include the length of the destination buffer. Such as strncpy, strncmp, and so on. The strn... functions are multiplatform and standard. The str..._s functions, from what I have read on the Web, are a Microsoft invention. They are not ISO or ANSI standard functions, but are being considered. And, according to one person, were invented by MS strictly as a way to make it more difficult to port code using them to other systems. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically? Thanks. Right. I was thinking of several such possibilities. There are also safe versions of many of the char[] functions including sprintf, so several of these would have to be written. sprintf would be a little trickier than the below. I was just surprised that IBM did not provide safe versions given that (in my informal survey of malware issues) the number one cause of security problems in software is buffer overrun. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: criteria during PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (PSM)
Jack, Is it possible that HSM is reaching its migration threshold for these volumes before migrating the datasets in question? Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: John Kelly [john_j_ke...@ao.uscourts.gov] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: criteria during PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (PSM) snip Lack of ML1 space? What do the HSM migration logs say? Hint MSGARC0734I If SMS managed, what is the MGMTCLAS and the attributes assigned? /snip These DSN go directly to ML2 (which I should have stated) so ML1 isn't an issue. Since there isn't any errors, there's no msgARC0734I SMS Mclass: PRIMARY LEVEL 1 DAYS DAYS 170 Attributes vary but the DSNs are PS and FB or VB and they have a default DataClass. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
In the Filezilla GUI, pulldown tab View, checkmarked Message log. Connecting to z/OS 1.9 FTPD1 Filezilla's response is here http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/3910 Full log follows. Status: Resolving address of xxx.xxx.wsu.edu Status: Connecting to 134.121.nnn.nnn:21... Status: Connection established, waiting for welcome message... Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 220-FTPD1 IBM FTP CS V1R9 at LOOPBACK, 19:19:00 on 2009-12-03. Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 220 Connection will close if idle for more than 5 minutes. Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Command:AUTH TLS Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 234 Security environment established - ready for negotiation Status: Initializing TLS... Trace: CTlsSocket::Handshake() Trace: CTlsSocket::OnSend() Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CTlsSocket::Handshake() Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CTlsSocket::Handshake() Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CTlsSocket::Handshake() Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CTlsSocket::Handshake() Trace: Handshake successful Trace: Cipher: ARCFOUR-128, MAC: MD5 Status: Verifying certificate... Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Command:USER gibney Status: TLS/SSL connection established. Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 331 Send password please. Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Command:PASS *** Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 230 GIBNEY is logged on. Working directory is GIBNEY.. Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Command:SYST Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 215 MVS is the operating system of this server. FTP Server is running on z/OS. Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Command:FEAT Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 211- Extensions supported Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response:SIZE Response:MDTM Response:REST STREAM Response:UTF8 Response:LANG en* Response:AUTH TLS Response:AUTH GSSAPI Response:PBSZ Response:PROT Response: 211 End Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Command:OPTS UTF8 ON Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 501 command OPTS aborted -- no options supported for UTF8 Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Command:PBSZ 0 Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 200 Protection buffer size accepted Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Command:PROT P Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 200 Data connection protection set to private Status: Connected Trace: CFtpControlSocket::ResetOperation(0) Trace: CControlSocket::ResetOperation(0) Trace: CFileZillaEnginePrivate::ResetOperation(0) Status: Retrieving directory listing... Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::ChangeDirSend() Command:PWD Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 257 'GIBNEY.' is working directory. Trace: CFtpControlSocket::ResetOperation(0) Trace: CControlSocket::ResetOperation(0) Trace: CFtpControlSocket::ParseSubcommandResult(0) Trace: CFtpControlSocket::ListSubcommandResult() Trace:state = 1 Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::TransferSend() Trace:state = 1 Command:TYPE I Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 200 Representation type is Image Trace: CFtpControlSocket::TransferParseResponse() Trace:code = 2 Trace:state = 1 Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::TransferSend() Trace:state = 2 Command:PASV Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 227 Entering Passive Mode (134,121,nnn,nnn,4,45) Trace: CFtpControlSocket::TransferParseResponse() Trace:code = 2 Trace:state = 2 Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::TransferSend() Trace:state = 4 Command:LIST Trace: CTransferSocket::OnConnect Trace: CTlsSocket::Handshake() Trace: CTlsSocket::OnSend() Trace: CTlsSocket::OnSend() Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CTlsSocket::Handshake() Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::OnReceive() Response: 125 List started OK Trace: CFtpControlSocket::TransferParseResponse() Trace:code = 1 Trace:state = 4 Trace: CFtpControlSocket::SendNextCommand() Trace: CFtpControlSocket::TransferSend() Trace:state = 5 Trace: CTlsSocket::OnRead() Trace: CTlsSocket::Handshake() Trace: Handshake successful Trace: Session
Re: Tool for identifying mount points?
Thought I would give that REXX a try, and it looks like I am not getting values in the Vars. I am running zOS 1.8. Any ideas why this is not working on my machine? trace i shows this... 7 *-* j=s.stfs_avail * s.stfs_blocksize LS.STFS_AVAIL LS.STFS_BLOCKSIZE 7 +++ j=s.stfs_avail * s.stfs_blocksize IRX0041I Error running U#TST, line 7: Bad arithmetic conversion -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: criteria during PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (PSM)
Does the Management class for these datasets require a Backup and does that backup exist? Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: John Kelly [john_j_ke...@ao.uscourts.gov] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: criteria during PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (PSM) snip Lack of ML1 space? What do the HSM migration logs say? Hint MSGARC0734I If SMS managed, what is the MGMTCLAS and the attributes assigned? /snip These DSN go directly to ML2 (which I should have stated) so ML1 isn't an issue. Since there isn't any errors, there's no msgARC0734I SMS Mclass: PRIMARY LEVEL 1 DAYS DAYS 170 Attributes vary but the DSNs are PS and FB or VB and they have a default DataClass. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
Gibney, Dave wrote: I must have something wrong. I just installed the latest. 3.3.0.1 and I still get: Trace: CTransferSocket::OnReceive(), m_transferMode=0 Trace: GnuTLS error -9: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Status: Server did not properly shut down TLS connection Error: Could not read from transfer socket: ECONNABORTED - Connection aborted Trace: CTransferSocket::TransferEnd(3) We had a similar problem some time ago.. With help from the IBMTCP-L list I found: http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/3626 which seemed to match the problem. Nothing I tried at the time got around this problem. My next thing to try was switching to AT-TLS which someone said fixed the problem, but I have been too busy to get it set up. However I now see: http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/3684 which sounds like there might be a fix without AT-TLS. I am going to try this this weekend. Steve Bireley of Bluezone helped in looking at some of my traces, and also suggested I try the Bluezone client which is free. http://www.bluezonesoftware.com/ Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:55:25 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:23:40 -0600, Chuck Arney wrote: Mark, WS_FTP 12 Pro displays the stats (and sorts the modified column) just fine for PDS member names of any length. I just tested it with names less than 5 characters and it worked fine for 1, 2, 3 character member names. Thanks Chuck. If anyone can confirm a release higher than 7 but lower than 12 that also works, I'd be interested to know since I have know idea what version I may be able to get when I contact the local help desk (I hope they have something more current available). Offline email is fine. Regards, Mark -- Mark, I can confirm that WS_FTP Pro version 9.1 (2004.08.18) is broken in the same way version 7 is, so you want a later version than 9.1. Regards, Dave Long -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: criteria during PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (PSM)
snip Does the Management class for these datasets require a Backup and does that backup exist? /snip Yes, backup is required and was done, and current (exists), two weeks before the DSN gets migrated. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: criteria during PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (PSM)
This is from z/OS V1R9.0 DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide (SC35- 0421-06) page 65. (Other releases may have changed the manual name/number and/or page.) This discussion is for tape mount management datasets ... the description of such is not that clear; but, it really means direct to ML2 migration(s). These behave differently. Note Trigger Threshold description here. This may (or may not) explain what you are seeing and why. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
Thanks, UK43295 (APAR PK77240) is on my 1.9 system. I'll give TLSRFCLEVEL RFC4217 a try and report back. This is my third trip to this well on this issue. May be the charm :) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Peurifoy Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly Gibney, Dave wrote: I must have something wrong. I just installed the latest. 3.3.0.1 and I still get: Trace: CTransferSocket::OnReceive(), m_transferMode=0 Trace: GnuTLS error -9: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Status: Server did not properly shut down TLS connection Error: Could not read from transfer socket: ECONNABORTED - Connection aborted Trace: CTransferSocket::TransferEnd(3) We had a similar problem some time ago.. With help from the IBMTCP-L list I found: http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/3626 which seemed to match the problem. Nothing I tried at the time got around this problem. My next thing to try was switching to AT-TLS which someone said fixed the problem, but I have been too busy to get it set up. However I now see: http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/3684 which sounds like there might be a fix without AT-TLS. I am going to try this this weekend. Steve Bireley of Bluezone helped in looking at some of my traces, and also suggested I try the Bluezone client which is free. http://www.bluezonesoftware.com/ Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tool for identifying mount points?
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:58:21 -0800, John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com wrote: Thought I would give that REXX a try, and it looks like I am not getting values in the Vars. I am running zOS 1.8. Any ideas why this is not working on my machine? trace i shows this... 7 *-* j=s.stfs_avail * s.stfs_blocksize LS.STFS_AVAIL LS.STFS_BLOCKSIZE 7 +++ j=s.stfs_avail * s.stfs_blocksize IRX0041I Error running U#TST, line 7: Bad arithmetic conversion Are you running it from a shell? (hint: that is a requirement) -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 14:07:14 -0600, David Long dwl...@riteaid.com wrote: On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:55:25 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:23:40 -0600, Chuck Arney wrote: Mark, WS_FTP 12 Pro displays the stats (and sorts the modified column) just fine for PDS member names of any length. I just tested it with names less than 5 characters and it worked fine for 1, 2, 3 character member names. Thanks Chuck. If anyone can confirm a release higher than 7 but lower than 12 that also works, I'd be interested to know since I have know idea what version I may be able to get when I contact the local help desk (I hope they have something more current available). Offline email is fine. Regards, Mark -- Mark, I can confirm that WS_FTP Pro version 9.1 (2004.08.18) is broken in the same way version 7 is, so you want a later version than 9.1. Regards, Dave Long Thanks. Anyone with V10 or V11? :-) Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: criteria during PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (PSM)
This is from z/OS V1R9.0 DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide (SC35-0421-06) page 65. /snip John thanks for the thought but I think that's talking about Interval Migration Processing and not so much about PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly
On 2009-12-02 21:35 concerning Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly, Charles Mills char...@m...org wrote to IBM-Main: [snip] using WS_FTP Pro [snip] I just tried to access some OMVS files and they are displaying very strangely in WS_FTP. [snip] If I set the filter to *, then the names are displayed but folders [snip] Charles : I see in other messages that you've resolved your problem but I also spotted the following in my Ws_ftp_LE v5.08 Help for Filter Mask : Note to those familiar with FTP command line clients: You can use any argument string you would use with a Dir command in a command line FTP client. - an' shur'nuff, when I entered a mask other than '*' ie. 'e*', all my directories disappeared since DIR is not equal LS. (Communication Server for z/OS v1.9 User Guide) ps. I use two profiles in Ws_ftp_LE - z/OS (IBM MVS) and z/Unix (Unix Standard). We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. -- signature = 6 lines follows -- Neil Duffee, Joe SysProg, U d'Ottawa, Ottawa, Ont, Canada telephone:1 613 562 5800 x4585 fax:1 613 562 5161 mailto:NDuffee of uOttawa.ca http:/ /aix1.uottawa.ca/ ~nduffee How *do* you plan for something like that? Guardian Bob, Reboot For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. Systems Programming: Guilty, until proven innocent John Norgauer 2004 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Filezilla, SSL, z/OS 1.9
The following fix and parm update solved my problem with Filezilla. Thanks to all for the help, I'll probably stick with Bluezone myself, but it's good to have another option for my users. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly Thanks, UK43295 (APAR PK77240) is on my 1.9 system. I'll give TLSRFCLEVEL RFC4217 a try and report back. This is my third trip to this well on this issue. May be the charm :) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Peurifoy Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly Gibney, Dave wrote: I must have something wrong. I just installed the latest. 3.3.0.1 and I still get: Trace:CTransferSocket::OnReceive(), m_transferMode=0 Trace:GnuTLS error -9: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Status: Server did not properly shut down TLS connection Error:Could not read from transfer socket: ECONNABORTED - Connection aborted Trace:CTransferSocket::TransferEnd(3) We had a similar problem some time ago.. With help from the IBMTCP-L list I found: http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/3626 which seemed to match the problem. Nothing I tried at the time got around this problem. My next thing to try was switching to AT-TLS which someone said fixed the problem, but I have been too busy to get it set up. However I now see: http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/3684 which sounds like there might be a fix without AT-TLS. I am going to try this this weekend. Steve Bireley of Bluezone helped in looking at some of my traces, and also suggested I try the Bluezone client which is free. http://www.bluezonesoftware.com/ Richard - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
Joel Wolpert pisze: Accenture was originally the IT consulting division of Arthur Anderson. That is why they took the name Anderson Consulting. They then were spun off from Arthur Anderson as a separate company and took the name Accenture. Well... I really don't understand why do you insist on improper spelling of 'Andersen' name. Is it funny? Is it to hard to understand it's not AndersOn? Don't you like AC and now you want to kick them? Wasn't it mentioned that it is AndersEn? Why??? BTW: Thank other folks for mentionint history of Accenture. I really knew that both AA and AC had common roots as well as I really knew that long before Enron scandal they were separate companies. And to be honest - I really didn't care. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
AUTO: Jon Nolting is out of the office. I will be checking emails occasionally. (returning 12/07/2009)
I am out of the office until 12/07/2009. I will be on vacation starting Wednesday, March 4 returning on Monday, March 9. During that time, I will have limited access to both email and VM. Note: This is an automated response to your message Re: Beating a dead horse but sent on 12/3/09 7:44:30. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Blast From The Past - UCB VSCR
Andrew Metcalfe wrote: I realise that this subject is old, old, old but we have never had a requirement to move UCBs above 16M as we have been happily running with a private region of 8M and have not seen any CSA (below) issues. We are now looking at a strategy of consolidating workloads on fewer z/OS systems and hence expect to see an increase in both CSA usage and SQA as more devices are defined to each system. I have seen the Redbook (SG24-4584 from 1995!) which gives some information, but I can't see anything from recent times. Can anyone please point me at some recent conventional wisdom, or is moving UCBs above a non-event? There is a product called MDRS that can not handle 'above the line UCBs'. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Blast From The Past - UCB VSCR
- Original Message - From: Anthony Fletcher flet...@nz1.ibm.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Blast From The Past - UCB VSCR Andrew Metcalfe wrote: I realise that this subject is old, old, old but we have never had a requirement to move UCBs above 16M as we have been happily running with a private region of 8M and have not seen any CSA (below) issues. We are now looking at a strategy of consolidating workloads on fewer z/OS systems and hence expect to see an increase in both CSA usage and SQA as more devices are defined to each system. I have seen the Redbook (SG24-4584 from 1995!) which gives some information, but I can't see anything from recent times. Can anyone please point me at some recent conventional wisdom, or is moving UCBs above a non-event? There is a product called MDRS that can not handle 'above the line UCBs'. Depends on your version of MDRS. We had some late fixes to handle 16M UCB's before it was stabilized. I know because I wrote the UIM's for the devices handled by MDRS, and the UIM supported UCB's 16M. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
