Re: [MBZ] E320 Hesitation in Cornering
Any chance that you may be left foot braking? TC doesn't like that. John On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that the rpm drops to 750 coming out a corner after a stop (like waiting to turn left) and when you accelerate out of the turn it hesitates/misses a bit and then takes off like a scalded dog. What's this story? Bob '05 E320 59K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Iced coffee in Iowa
On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Panera doesn't have iced coffee. Curt: I grew up in Mass (Lexington) and have lived in Des Moines for the past 21 years. We do too have iced coffee. The Panera in Ames has iced coffee. I've gotten it there several times. Your waitress was clueless. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What about you?
They're all Chinese? --R Wonko the Sane wrote: The Iowa State (Ames) folks are more like the MIT ... crowd. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
I want to figure out a lever to switch between inside and outside... We run a woodstove most of the winter so the added moisture should be helpful... -Curt --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:42 PM You mean you are going to vent the dryer into the house? Did that one winter in Maine -- the results were not all that good. Ended up with too much moisture in the area (fogged the windows, etc.). On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My darling wife hung much of our laundry out this year which seemed to make a difference in our electricity useage but not as major as I would have thought. In another couple weeks I'm going to stop sending dryer air outside to see if it will impact our oil usage... -Curt -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What about you?
They had it but didn't make me get it... When I was in Toronto in February I couldn't find anywhere that had non-sweet tea... -Curt --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 8:06 PM Didn't have sweet tea? Sweet ICED tea, that is. What a pity. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? I can sum up why I wasn't real excited about Iowa: Panera doesn't have iced coffee. If the mainstay of trendy doesn't have iced coffee I can't live there. I can't live anywhere without iced coffee. This was in Ames mind you which appears in other repects to be pretty trendy but the girl didn't even seem to know what iced coffee was what like coffee with ice in it?. I had to settle for iced tea. At least they didn't make me have sweet tea... -Curt Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:27:12 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don't kid yourself -- she'd love Iowa. On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don - I'd consider it, but I'd miss my darling wife too much. BillR -Original Message- From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 9/20/08 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? Do what I did -- pull up the Jax roots and move to rural Iowa. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What about you?
Actually -- yes, it seems that way when we go to the Ames mall. Hadn't thought of that before but you are correct. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're all Chinese? --R Wonko the Sane wrote: The Iowa State (Ames) folks are more like the MIT ... crowd. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O/T Moisture in air
Oh, I've got to jump on this My position: Using a wood stove does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Using a electric heat does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. If you disagree with this position, than please answer the following question: When using a wood stove or electric heat, where does the moisture go? I would like to suggest that we only use heat sources during cold weather when there is no moisture in the ambient air to start with. Pete Who has been known to cause major disturbances with this topic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air
You are absolutely correct. When it is cold outside (i.e., winter, usually) the air holds less moisture (humidity, water vapor) so when it is heated up it is still dry. I used a steamer kettle on my woodstove in the winter, helped a lot. I had a triple-dekka in Boston years ago, rented the top floor to a black woman and her 2 daughters. One cold winter day I went up there to fix something, and it was about 90F and like a sweltering swamp in there. They had the heat cranked up, and a 5 gal pot on the stove boiling like a witch's cauldron. I made some comment about the ambient conditions and she explained to me that black folks were more prone to dry skin in the winter, so they kept it like that to avoid skin rashes and such. I had never heard that before. It was actually hotter and more humid than Boston summers, go figure. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I've got to jump on this My position: Using a wood stove does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Using a electric heat does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. If you disagree with this position, than please answer the following question: When using a wood stove or electric heat, where does the moisture go? I would like to suggest that we only use heat sources during cold weather when there is no moisture in the ambient air to start with. Pete Who has been known to cause major disturbances with this topic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Front Bumper Replacement
Does the air bag function? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I just changed one the other day, well, it was the whole bumper. Took me longer to find the tools than to do the job -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air
Using a wood stove does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Using a electric heat does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Yes, but heating any air reduces its relative humidity, and the usual winter fare is too uncomfortable unless you do something about it. (Here, anyway.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air
I always suspected you were a trouble maker. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air Oh, I've got to jump on this My position: Using a wood stove does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Using a electric heat does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. If you disagree with this position, than please answer the following question: When using a wood stove or electric heat, where does the moisture go? I would like to suggest that we only use heat sources during cold weather when there is no moisture in the ambient air to start with. Pete Who has been known to cause major disturbances with this topic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air
I'm thinking your saying that in fact there is no difference in the heating media. If so, I agree. Oil Hot water heat is just as dry as electric base boards. Pete -- Original message -- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using a wood stove does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Using a electric heat does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Yes, but heating any air reduces its relative humidity, and the usual winter fare is too uncomfortable unless you do something about it. (Here, anyway.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
A caution. Check underside of roof occasionally during winter to make sure excessive moisture is not condensing there - 'does in many areas of the country. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you? I installed (I am sure duct tape was involved) one of my socks to the end of the dryer discharge hose. Caught 99% of the lint -- but had to be changed occasionally. I would think something larger like a pillowcase would be better. As far as moisture goes, it depends on where you live. Here it would be welcome all winter. My heating system has a 2kW water boiler in it that can't even begin to keep up. I suspect that anyplace where a swamp cooler is effective wouldn't have a problem venting into the house, if the lint were controlled. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Friday humor Politics Fw: illegal aliens
Yeah, but your winters will be moderating as the planet heats up... Besides, my BIL is the biggest whiner about the cold, and he has lived in Manitoba and Edmonton his entire life. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:06 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but we know you are going to complain about the weather. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Friday humor Politics Fw: illegal aliens I am practically an honorary Canadian anyway already, with my multiple visits and complete lack of rude thoughts or actions. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:10 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe Canada? We are likely in the process of giving Harper a majority this election. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Friday humor Politics Fw: illegal aliens Where will the conservatives go when Obama/Biden prevail? On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - Subject: illegal aliens just kidding ... i think ... From the MANITOBA HERALD, Canada (a very underground paper): The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration. The possibility of a McCain/Palin election is prompting the exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray, and agree with Bill O'Reilly. Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal rights activists and Unitarians crossing their fields at night. I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn, said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota . The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry. He asked me if I could spar e a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn't have any, he left. Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh? In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. Not real effective, he said. The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk. Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves. A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions, an Ontario border patrolman said. I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though. When liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the McCain administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to shoot wolves from airplanes, deny evolution, and act out drills preparing them for the Rapture. In recent days, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers on Pe rry Como and Rosemary Clooney hits to prove they were alive in the '50s. If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age, an official said. Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies. I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them, an Ottawa resident said. How many art-history and English majors does one country need? Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Earth first... log the other planets later. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official
[MBZ] Warning buzzer
Ethelred (the Unready: 1982 380 SL) has got innumerable issues to deal with, but one that's the most in-your-face irritating is the seatbelt warning light that cycles with nearly every bump. So I pulled the warning module (next to the cruise control amplifier hanging from the brake pedal support) and resoldered it. I also retightened the ground cluster over by the fuse box. That is also part of the warning circuitry. OK, this is weird. I've wondered why opening the right-hand door causes the warning buzzer to sound on this car, but not on our later SL's nor on our now-sold 450 SL, and I can see from the car's schematic that though they wired the two door switches separately to the warning module they also tied the two switches together, negating the diode that's in the warning module to isolate them! Later SL's have them separated. I wonder... I pulled the two door switches, and the wiring found there matched the schematic, as did the wiring to the courtesy lights themselves. (It's always good to check.) It looked like one of the two brown/blue wires that comes off each switch is just a tie between the two switches, one that isn't necessary and that was eliminated for the 1983 model. Gambling, I cut one loose from the driver's switch and beat the odds! It was the inter-switch tie and after that the warning module only buzzed when the driver's door was opened yet the courtesy lights functioned as they should. I taped up the loose wire and put the car back together. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trek to Starfest 2008
Y'all missed some good BBQ. Great bunch of folks from the eastern US. Paul and Shirley from FL in a SL 320 with lotsa miles on it. Werner and Nancy in a 300D 2.5 (probably has lotsa miles, but that topic didn't come up) Keith with his beautiful 300SEL 109. Love the air suspension! Carl and Carla in a newish car (he is excused because he has a bunch of old MBs too, and has owned prewar MBs) And Otto and his cousin from Köln in a G-wagon. They all loved Hickory Park. They over-ordered, a typical sin of newbies to HP. We added 3 MBs to the lot with the 300D, the 380SL and Adam's 200D 2.4 We had a good time talking about all things Mercedes. I enjoyed Keith, because he is also a fin car aficionado, and talks about his 300SEL (109) as a new car, meaning post 1969 or not pre slash 8. We all had some good laughs about Adam getting a speeding ticket several years ago in the 200D, allegedly going 83 MPH! This morning there was a new addition to the group. I commented that his car looked just like the 85 300TD I had. Turns out is WAS exactly like my 85 TD. Also turns out to be Luther's dad from Arkieland! Start saving up your dimes and dollars and vacation time now! In 2013, Werner is planning a coast to coast Lincoln highway tour, to mark the 100th anniversary of the Lincoln Highway. I want to drive on that trip! For MBCA members: Start lobbying now to make this an official MBCA event! Loren (who lives about 1 block form the original Lincoln Highway.) At 05:48 PM 9/22/2008, you wrote: Can't make it. Killer office schedule this week, plus my boss is on vacation the entire week so I get to do both my job and her job. (The upside (?) is that I am an 'acting-Director' for five days.) Besides, Hickory Park is far from vegetarian friendly. I'd have to order a large portion of coleslaw. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Don, Are you coming over for some BBQ tomorrow night? Hickory Park, 7 PM. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
Womens pantyhose make a better filter. You get two bags, and the stretch out as they fill. At 08:32 PM 9/22/2008, you wrote: I installed (I am sure duct tape was involved) one of my socks to the end of the dryer discharge hose. Caught 99% of the lint -- but had to be changed occasionally. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Not only excessive moisture in the house, but lint, too. BTW, there is an attachment for the duct that can recover most of that heat and still exhaust the moisture and lint outside. It's an X-type duct with heat exchanger in the middle - dryer air goes outside, the heat stays inside, but you don't get something for nothing - 'have to run a small fan, I think, to move house air through the heat exchanger. Wilton -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning buzzer
A simple, good Catheyesque fix! Congrats on a new one! At 09:51 AM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Ethelred (the Unready: 1982 380 SL) has got innumerable issues to deal with, but one that's the most in-your-face irritating is the seatbelt warning light that cycles with nearly every bump. So I pulled the warning module (next to the cruise control amplifier hanging from the brake pedal support) and resoldered it. I also retightened the ground cluster over by the fuse box. That is also part of the warning circuitry. OK, this is weird. I've wondered why opening the right-hand door causes the warning buzzer to sound on this car, but not on our later SL's nor on our now-sold 450 SL, and I can see from the car's schematic that though they wired the two door switches separately to the warning module they also tied the two switches together, negating the diode that's in the warning module to isolate them! Later SL's have them separated. I wonder... I pulled the two door switches, and the wiring found there matched the schematic, as did the wiring to the courtesy lights themselves. (It's always good to check.) It looked like one of the two brown/blue wires that comes off each switch is just a tie between the two switches, one that isn't necessary and that was eliminated for the 1983 model. Gambling, I cut one loose from the driver's switch and beat the odds! It was the inter-switch tie and after that the warning module only buzzed when the driver's door was opened yet the courtesy lights functioned as they should. I taped up the loose wire and put the car back together. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 126
I did that one winter also. NOT a good idea. lots of moisture on the windows, stuff got mildewed, etc. There's a HELL of a lot of water in a load of laundry. Dan On Sep 23, 2008, at 9:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to figure out a lever to switch between inside and outside... We run a woodstove most of the winter so the added moisture should be helpful... -Curt --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:42 PM You mean you are going to vent the dryer into the house? Did that one winter in Maine -- the results were not all that good. Ended up with too much moisture in the area (fogged the windows, etc.). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What about you?
Heating oil has been in a relative freefall lately, down to ~$3.70 in the last couple days from $4.79 when my oil company sent out pre-pay letters in July. I declined to lock in a price and so far that has been a gamble well paid off. We'll fill up this week at $1/gal less than we were offered 2 months ago. Last year we locked in at $3, the year before was $2.50. -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:25:18 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey at least you are in Florida. I hear that some folks in the more northern areas are likely to be pretty hard hit this winter. I think I read that Maine has a very high number of people who heat with oil. Not going to be good news when they fill their tanks. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 126
I've never done it, wife would not be able to figure it out.
My Dad did it for 20years {Winter Only}, using one of Mom's nylons. Worked
fine, added heat and moisture to a very cold basement.
Pete
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From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I did that one winter also. NOT a good idea. lots of moisture on the
windows, stuff got mildewed, etc.
There's a HELL of a lot of water in a load of laundry.
Dan
On Sep 23, 2008, at 9:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to figure out a lever to switch between inside and outside...
We run a woodstove most of the winter so the added moisture should
be helpful...
-Curt
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:42 PM
You mean you are going to vent the dryer into the house? Did that
one winter in Maine -- the results were not all that good. Ended up
with too much moisture in the area (fogged the windows, etc.).
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Re: [MBZ] What about you?
In the winter it is, in the summer time when you've been out doing something an iced coffee is just the thing while you're cruising around in your vintage automobile... -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:37:05 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I spent several days in Des Moines several years ago and it seemed to have about everything I needed. But I don't understand Curt - Coffee is hot BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
A pair of the wife's stockings around the duct will kill the lint problem... The moisture problem bothers me a little. The idea of a heat exchanger interests me although it won't get as much of the heat as just ducting it in would and as I say we could actually benefit from some of the moisture. I wonder if I couldn't duct out some of the moist warm air through a smaller pipe to push warm air off the heat exchanger... I may have to weld up a piece of stove pipe as a rudimentary heat exchanger and try this idea out... If nothing else it keeps me out of the bars. -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:16:36 -0400 From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Not only excessive moisture in the house, but lint, too. BTW, there is an attachment for the duct that can recover most of that heat and still exhaust the moisture and lint outside. It's an X-type duct with heat exchanger in the middle - dryer air goes outside, the heat stays inside, but you don't get something for nothing - 'have to run a small fan, I think, to move house air through the heat exchanger. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
My wife gave me a Craftsman drill/driver combo for Christmas 19.2v. Not a bad kit, the driver isn't as good as the drill, its slower and hard to put pressure on. Definately get a standard chuck! Dad has the same drill in 14v, his is lighter and has similar grunt but mine lasts longer. For you I'd say get the 14v and 2 batteries, the charger will recharge in 1 hour at which point you'll probably need a break anyway. -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:20:09 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don - I went to Sam's and got a 19.5 V Hitachi cordless drill with variable speed. That works well for screws and it also has an adjustable clutch so you won't over drive them. $39 and change. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers I am going to be installing new kitchen cabinets soon, and am thinking about the number of screws I'll be driving. I don't think me arthritic wrists are up to job anymore, so am thinking about one of these new fangled cordless screw driver/drill thingies. My question is, how much torque, or voltage do I need in a device to drive the appropriate screws into/through hickory? I see the range (when it's mentioned) ot 100 to 500 inch/pounds. Any recommendations? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What about you?
C'mon coffee and engineers belong together... We just got a new coffee machine here that makes a decent latte, its busy all the time. -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:55:59 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You must understand that what is seen as trendy in your corner of Massachusetts might not be universally recognized as trendy elsewhere. By the way, the trendy is in Iowa City (University of Iowa). The Iowa State (Ames) folks are more like the MIT and Virginia Tech crowd. Special emphasis on engineering and vet degrees. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can sum up why I wasn't real excited about Iowa: Panera doesn't have iced coffee. If the mainstay of trendy doesn't have iced coffee I can't live there. I can't live anywhere without iced coffee. This was in Ames mind you which appears in other repects to be pretty trendy but the girl didn't even seem to know what iced coffee was what like coffee with ice in it?. I had to settle for iced tea. At least they didn't make me have sweet tea... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
I have a Firestorm 12v thats a decent drill but can only drive a handful of 3 inch screws on a charge. My Crapsman 19.2v can drive many... -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:55:08 -0700 From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I have a BlackDecker 18v Firestorm drill I got for $90 at Home Despot. It seems to do well with the 3.5 deck screws and anything else I throw at it. It has a high and low speed as well as variable speed within either gear proportional to how far you squeeze the trigger. I even used it to fire up an RC car engine. It came with two batteries that charge up within an hour or so (at the same time). It may not be the lightest thing out there, but for something that powerful, it balances well too. It also has a removable chuck which can be removed along with the drill bit for switching back and forth between drilling and driving since the driver bit is underneath the chuck while drilling. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
Get an impact driver. I bought an inexpensive Ryobi model from Home Depot last winter and have been quite happy with it. I have been driving 3 inch deck screws attaching 2X4's as strapping on a ceiling out at the cottage and it has done fine. Might not be a journeyman quality tool in the long run but was about $90 here in Canada complete with the charger, case and 2 batteries. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers I am going to be installing new kitchen cabinets soon, and am thinking about the number of screws I'll be driving. I don't think me arthritic wrists are up to job anymore, so am thinking about one of these new fangled cordless screw driver/drill thingies. My question is, how much torque, or voltage do I need in a device to drive the appropriate screws into/through hickory? I see the range (when it's mentioned) ot 100 to 500 inch/pounds. Any recommendations? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
Loren Faeth wrote: Womens pantyhose make a better filter. You get two bags, and the stretch out as they fill. With all the lint that comes out the dryer vent, I've got to think the only purpose for the dryer's internal lint screen is to start fires that can be blamed on the homeowner for failing to clear the screen. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Iced coffee in Iowa
Is there maybe more than one Panera in Ames? This one was where LT Don told us to go eat at Red Lobster... There wasn't any iced coffee I could see, she suggested I could put ice in hot coffee... I hate doing that, ends up watery. -Curt Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:23:07 -0500 From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Iced coffee in Iowa To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Panera doesn't have iced coffee. Curt: I grew up in Mass (Lexington) and have lived in Des Moines for the past 21 years. We do too have iced coffee. The Panera in Ames has iced coffee. I've gotten it there several times. Your waitress was clueless. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air
With a woodstove it goes up the pipe, you use inside air for combustion air. Replacement air has to be drawn from the outside where ambient moisture is lower. I dunno about electric, never heard that as a complaint before. -Curt Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:07:48 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, I've got to jump on this My position: Using a wood stove does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Using a electric heat does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. If you disagree with this position, than please answer the following question: When using a wood stove or electric heat, where does the moisture go? I would like to suggest that we only use heat sources during cold weather when there is no moisture in the ambient air to start with. Pete Who has been known to cause major disturbances with this topic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Iced coffee in Iowa
Nope, one on South Duff (hwy 69), the old Hardees building. When were you in Ames, and why didn't you holler on the way through? At 11:40 AM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Is there maybe more than one Panera in Ames? This one was where LT Don told us to go eat at Red Lobster... There wasn't any iced coffee I could see, she suggested I could put ice in hot coffee... I hate doing that, ends up watery. -Curt Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:23:07 -0500 From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Iced coffee in Iowa To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII;delsp=yes;format=flowed On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Panera doesn't have iced coffee. Curt: I grew up in Mass (Lexington) and have lived in Des Moines for the past 21 years. We do too have iced coffee. The Panera in Ames has iced coffee. I've gotten it there several times. Your waitress was clueless. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air
So, you agree! The wood stove doesn't make it dryer Pete -- Original message -- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] With a woodstove it goes up the pipe, you use inside air for combustion air. Replacement air has to be drawn from the outside where ambient moisture is lower. I dunno about electric, never heard that as a complaint before. -Curt Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:07:48 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, I've got to jump on this My position: Using a wood stove does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Using a electric heat does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. If you disagree with this position, than please answer the following question: When using a wood stove or electric heat, where does the moisture go? I would like to suggest that we only use heat sources during cold weather when there is no moisture in the ambient air to start with. Pete Who has been known to cause major disturbances with this topic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air
So, you agree with me! The woodstove doesn't make it dryer Pete -- Original message -- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] With a woodstove it goes up the pipe, you use inside air for combustion air. Replacement air has to be drawn from the outside where ambient moisture is lower. I dunno about electric, never heard that as a complaint before. -Curt Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:07:48 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, I've got to jump on this My position: Using a wood stove does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Using a electric heat does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. If you disagree with this position, than please answer the following question: When using a wood stove or electric heat, where does the moisture go? I would like to suggest that we only use heat sources during cold weather when there is no moisture in the ambient air to start with. Pete Who has been known to cause major disturbances with this topic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:13:59 + Size: 806 Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080923/0a5580e7/attachment.mht ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
Do you have a model number for this one? Buy one of the Bosch drivers -- I have the one with the tilting head and the thing is amazing. Yes - a Bosch drill/driver would go well with my Leicas and Linhof. I guess those Germans know how to build other than Benz parts. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
Well, if you want a practical solution on what to do with all that lint? Get a spinning wheel and make thread or yarn, then take up weaving or knitting... And viola! Fully recyclable piece of clothing.! Just a thought! Too much time on my hands, I agree! Chuck On Sep 23, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Womens pantyhose make a better filter. You get two bags, and the stretch out as they fill. With all the lint that comes out the dryer vent, I've got to think the only purpose for the dryer's internal lint screen is to start fires that can be blamed on the homeowner for failing to clear the screen. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 127
On Sep 23, 2008, at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there maybe more than one Panera in Ames? This one was where LT Don told us to go eat at Red Lobster... The one I go to is just south of downtown a few blocks, on 65. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 127
On Sep 23, 2008, at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, one on South Duff (hwy 69), the old Hardees building. When were you in Ames, and why didn't you holler on the way through? THAT's the one I go to. Hwy 69, not 65. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 126
Dan Weeks wrote: I did that one winter also. NOT a good idea. lots of moisture on the windows, stuff got mildewed, etc. There's a HELL of a lot of water in a load of laundry. If you're going to keep that water indoors, get yourself some wooden drying racks and quit running the dryer. Then, instead of covering the walls, doors, windows with water, the clothes will release the water as the air can handle it. Also, the amount of water depends on the spin speed of the washer. With my Fisher and Paykel, I can wash my heavy winter coat and air dry it on the rack in a few hours. With a 40 year old Kenmore, the coat would drip water on the floor if I hung it up straight from the washer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
I can truthfully say that with my Hitachi and it's rapid charger and two batteries I have never run out of power. I might also mention that I can't do that stuff for more than 30 minutes on a good day. That probably makes a difference. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:55 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers I have a Firestorm 12v thats a decent drill but can only drive a handful of 3 inch screws on a charge. My Crapsman 19.2v can drive many... -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:55:08 -0700 From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I have a BlackDecker 18v Firestorm drill I got for $90 at Home Despot. It seems to do well with the 3.5 deck screws and anything else I throw at it. It has a high and low speed as well as variable speed within either gear proportional to how far you squeeze the trigger. I even used it to fire up an RC car engine. It came with two batteries that charge up within an hour or so (at the same time). It may not be the lightest thing out there, but for something that powerful, it balances well too. It also has a removable chuck which can be removed along with the drill bit for switching back and forth between drilling and driving since the driver bit is underneath the chuck while drilling. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What about you?
OK Curt, on your recommendation I might give it a try when it gets hot again. Well, actually it is up to 79 outside now and climbing, but I'm talking about the 90+ stuff - then I'll go for a drive. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:31 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? In the winter it is, in the summer time when you've been out doing something an iced coffee is just the thing while you're cruising around in your vintage automobile... -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:37:05 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I spent several days in Des Moines several years ago and it seemed to have about everything I needed. But I don't understand Curt - Coffee is hot BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
We did the pantyhose thing one winter [west central Indiana] and I dont remember any problems. I also don't remember doing it a second time, though. My memory never was what it sort of remember it used to be. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:35 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you? A pair of the wife's stockings around the duct will kill the lint problem... The moisture problem bothers me a little. The idea of a heat exchanger interests me although it won't get as much of the heat as just ducting it in would and as I say we could actually benefit from some of the moisture. I wonder if I couldn't duct out some of the moist warm air through a smaller pipe to push warm air off the heat exchanger... I may have to weld up a piece of stove pipe as a rudimentary heat exchanger and try this idea out... If nothing else it keeps me out of the bars. -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:16:36 -0400 From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Not only excessive moisture in the house, but lint, too. BTW, there is an attachment for the duct that can recover most of that heat and still exhaust the moisture and lint outside. It's an X-type duct with heat exchanger in the middle - dryer air goes outside, the heat stays inside, but you don't get something for nothing - 'have to run a small fan, I think, to move house air through the heat exchanger. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air
Sure it does, it moves air around thus bringing dryer air into the house where otherwise that air transfer wouldn't take place. If your woodstove was setup with an external source of air then no it wouldn't cause any extra drying of the house's air. -Curt --- On Tue, 9/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 1:13 PM So, you agree! The wood stove doesn't make it dryer Pete -- Original message -- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] With a woodstove it goes up the pipe, you use inside air for combustion air. Replacement air has to be drawn from the outside where ambient moisture is lower. I dunno about electric, never heard that as a complaint before. -Curt Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:07:48 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, I've got to jump on this My position: Using a wood stove does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Using a electric heat does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. If you disagree with this position, than please answer the following question: When using a wood stove or electric heat, where does the moisture go? I would like to suggest that we only use heat sources during cold weather when there is no moisture in the ambient air to start with. Pete Who has been known to cause major disturbances with this topic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
I'd agree with my Craftsman, if I've got neither battery charged I either need more screws or need more material or need a break. -Curt --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 1:30 PM I can truthfully say that with my Hitachi and it's rapid charger and two batteries I have never run out of power. I might also mention that I can't do that stuff for more than 30 minutes on a good day. That probably makes a difference. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:55 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers I have a Firestorm 12v thats a decent drill but can only drive a handful of 3 inch screws on a charge. My Crapsman 19.2v can drive many... -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:55:08 -0700 From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I have a BlackDecker 18v Firestorm drill I got for $90 at Home Despot. It seems to do well with the 3.5 deck screws and anything else I throw at it. It has a high and low speed as well as variable speed within either gear proportional to how far you squeeze the trigger. I even used it to fire up an RC car engine. It came with two batteries that charge up within an hour or so (at the same time). It may not be the lightest thing out there, but for something that powerful, it balances well too. It also has a removable chuck which can be removed along with the drill bit for switching back and forth between drilling and driving since the driver bit is underneath the chuck while drilling. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
On Amazon (I buy tools from them, good deals) they have a reconditioned one for $80, very good price. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8keywords=Bosch%20driversearch-type=besttag=coffeeresearch13289-20index=toolslink_code=qs Bosch PS10-2 Litheon 10.8-Volt Lithium-Ion I-Driver Kit http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-PS10-2-10-8-Volt-Lithium-Ion-I-Driver/dp/B000F4ILD4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1222192079sr=1-5 Factory-Reconditioned Bosch PS10-2-RT Litheon 10.8 Volt Lithium-Ion I-Driver Kit http://www.amazon.com/Factory-Reconditioned-Bosch-PS10-2-RT-Lithium-Ion-I-Driver/dp/B000PDJKZ8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1222192079sr=1-9 ---R OK Don wrote: Do you have a model number for this one? Buy one of the Bosch drivers -- I have the one with the tilting head and the thing is amazing. Yes - a Bosch drill/driver would go well with my Leicas and Linhof. I guess those Germans know how to build other than Benz parts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Washing machines; was: Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 126
The washers built 40 years ago with blackmore or blackwell (or something like that) designed guts had a spin cycle like a commercial laundry extractor (centrifuge). They would wind up and whine like a banshee, but stuff came out pretty dry. They were deemed unsafe by our consumer watchdogs. I prefer to think of things labelled unsafe as Darwinian selection devices. Part of our society's problems have been caused by coddling the people stupid enough to burn themselves with fast food coffee, etc. Or at least not self-sufficient enough to deal with the consequences of their actions. Tricycle tractors come to mind. An International H or Super C is a wonderful device, as long as you respect it. Slip up, and it will kill ya! I have logged lotsa hours on H and A tractors I love em. An H will spin on a dime and give back change. At 12:30 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Dan Weeks wrote: I did that one winter also. NOT a good idea. lots of moisture on the windows, stuff got mildewed, etc. There's a HELL of a lot of water in a load of laundry. If you're going to keep that water indoors, get yourself some wooden drying racks and quit running the dryer. Then, instead of covering the walls, doors, windows with water, the clothes will release the water as the air can handle it. Also, the amount of water depends on the spin speed of the washer. With my Fisher and Paykel, I can wash my heavy winter coat and air dry it on the rack in a few hours. With a 40 year old Kenmore, the coat would drip water on the floor if I hung it up straight from the washer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washing machines; was: Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 126
Modern front loaders usually have a fast spin cycle. My Bosch is great, takes less than half the time it used to to dry laundry, either on the outside line (preferred) or in the dryer. We used to vent the dryer in the house in the winter, but since I've tightened up the windows and gotten the doors to seal properly, it's not needed. We put an old nylon stocking on the vent pipe to trap the lint, worked great. Peter -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 23, 2008 2:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Washing machines; was: Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 126 The washers built 40 years ago with blackmore or blackwell (or something like that) designed guts had a spin cycle like a commercial laundry extractor (centrifuge). They would wind up and whine like a banshee, but stuff came out pretty dry. They were deemed unsafe by our consumer watchdogs. I prefer to think of things labelled unsafe as Darwinian selection devices. Part of our society's problems have been caused by coddling the people stupid enough to burn themselves with fast food coffee, etc. Or at least not self-sufficient enough to deal with the consequences of their actions. Tricycle tractors come to mind. An International H or Super C is a wonderful device, as long as you respect it. Slip up, and it will kill ya! I have logged lotsa hours on H and A tractors I love em. An H will spin on a dime and give back change. At 12:30 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Dan Weeks wrote: I did that one winter also. NOT a good idea. lots of moisture on the windows, stuff got mildewed, etc. There's a HELL of a lot of water in a load of laundry. If you're going to keep that water indoors, get yourself some wooden drying racks and quit running the dryer. Then, instead of covering the walls, doors, windows with water, the clothes will release the water as the air can handle it. Also, the amount of water depends on the spin speed of the washer. With my Fisher and Paykel, I can wash my heavy winter coat and air dry it on the rack in a few hours. With a 40 year old Kenmore, the coat would drip water on the floor if I hung it up straight from the washer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D diff continued
So I got my 190D back, the diff bearing is still making noise but the shrieking symphony of the stuck parking brake cable is gone. I've gotten one quote so far for $450 shipped for a diff from somewhere on the west coast. Still waiting on another quote. Meanwhile Fred has found an early '84 190E which supposedly has a 3.46:1 rear end ratio. AFAIK my car has a 3.42:1, seems like the lower ratio will make my car a little quicker off the line but lose me a little top end. Thats fine, I've never found the very top, I'm also thinking .04 difference isn't squat and probably won't even mess up the speedo appreciably... Anyway opinions? I think I may have finally realized where to take it if I want the bearings replaced. Theres a very good transmission shop nearby that should be able to do it. I'll swing by this week and get them to look at it. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
Very good - thanks! On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Amazon (I buy tools from them, good deals) they have a reconditioned one for $80, very good price. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8keywords=Bosch%20driversearch-type=besttag=coffeeresearch13289-20index=toolslink_code=qs Bosch PS10-2 Litheon 10.8-Volt Lithium-Ion I-Driver Kit http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-PS10-2-10-8-Volt-Lithium-Ion-I-Driver/dp/B000F4ILD4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1222192079sr=1-5 Factory-Reconditioned Bosch PS10-2-RT Litheon 10.8 Volt Lithium-Ion I-Driver Kit http://www.amazon.com/Factory-Reconditioned-Bosch-PS10-2-RT-Lithium-Ion-I-Driver/dp/B000PDJKZ8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1222192079sr=1-9 ---R OK Don wrote: Do you have a model number for this one? Buy one of the Bosch drivers -- I have the one with the tilting head and the thing is amazing. Yes - a Bosch drill/driver would go well with my Leicas and Linhof. I guess those Germans know how to build other than Benz parts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WTF?
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/85203.html All the wood and moldings are gone? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another one for Fred
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Re: [MBZ] What about you?
Almost forgot to mention if you do a place that makes it for you try it with milk instead of cream. I find the cream at Dunkin Donuts for instance to taste kinda waxy... -Curt Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:30:42 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 OK Curt, on your recommendation I might give it a try when it gets hot again. Well, actually it is up to 79 outside now and climbing, but I'm talking about the 90+ stuff - then I'll go for a drive. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:31 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? In the winter it is, in the summer time when you've been out doing something an iced coffee is just the thing while you're cruising around in your vintage automobile... -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:37:05 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What about you? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],??? 'Mercedes Discussion List' ??? mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=iso-8859-1 I spent several days in Des Moines several years ago and it seemed to have about everything I needed.? But I don't understand Curt - Coffee is hot BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D diff continued
As I recall, Marshall said these seldom wore out unless abused (e.g., run dry). Even if yours is bad, an average used differential should work fine. Also, as I recall, Marshall said the noise problem was often the rubber mount (which gets hard) and not the actual differential. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 14:36 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] 190D diff continued So I got my 190D back, the diff bearing is still making noise but the shrieking symphony of the stuck parking brake cable is gone. I've gotten one quote so far for $450 shipped for a diff from somewhere on the west coast. Still waiting on another quote. Meanwhile Fred has found an early '84 190E which supposedly has a 3.46:1 rear end ratio. AFAIK my car has a 3.42:1, seems like the lower ratio will make my car a little quicker off the line but lose me a little top end. Thats fine, I've never found the very top, I'm also thinking .04 difference isn't squat and probably won't even mess up the speedo appreciably... Anyway opinions? I think I may have finally realized where to take it if I want the bearings replaced. Theres a very good transmission shop nearby that should be able to do it. I'll swing by this week and get them to look at it. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Tractors
Speaking of which I got to see a Farmall Super MD on Sunday, it was running a shingle mill. The MDs all started on gas and when the engine warmed up could switch over to diesel. Its pretty amazing to see in action. That shingle mill was from the 1890s and was pretty much all the Super MD could handle. In its time that was considered a pretty big tractor too. Nothing compared to a steam tractor though. -Curt Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:02:42 -0500 From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Washing machines; was: Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 126 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed The washers built 40 years ago with blackmore or blackwell (or something like that) designed guts had a spin cycle like a commercial laundry extractor (centrifuge). They would wind up and whine like a banshee, but stuff came out pretty dry. They were deemed unsafe by our consumer watchdogs. I prefer to think of things labelled unsafe as Darwinian selection devices. Part of our society's problems have been caused by coddling the people stupid enough to burn themselves with fast food coffee, etc. Or at least not self-sufficient enough to deal with the consequences of their actions. Tricycle tractors come to mind. An International H or Super C is a wonderful device, as long as you respect it. Slip up, and it will kill ya! I have logged lotsa hours on H and A tractors I love em. An H will spin on a dime and give back change. At 12:30 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Dan Weeks wrote: I did that one winter also. NOT a good idea. lots of moisture on the windows, stuff got mildewed, etc. There's a HELL of a lot of water in a load of laundry. If you're going to keep that water indoors, get yourself some wooden drying racks and quit running the dryer. Then, instead of covering the walls, doors, windows with water, the clothes will release the water as the air can handle it. Also, the amount of water depends on the spin speed of the washer. With my Fisher and Paykel, I can wash my heavy winter coat and air dry it on the rack in a few hours. With a 40 year old Kenmore, the coat would drip water on the floor if I hung it up straight from the washer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D diff continued
Interesting, I seem to remember that also. How big a deal is the mount to do? I'm putting together my next parts order right now anyway. -Curt --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] 190D diff continued To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 4:23 PM As I recall, Marshall said these seldom wore out unless abused (e.g., run dry). Even if yours is bad, an average used differential should work fine. Also, as I recall, Marshall said the noise problem was often the rubber mount (which gets hard) and not the actual differential. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 14:36 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] 190D diff continued So I got my 190D back, the diff bearing is still making noise but the shrieking symphony of the stuck parking brake cable is gone. I've gotten one quote so far for $450 shipped for a diff from somewhere on the west coast. Still waiting on another quote. Meanwhile Fred has found an early '84 190E which supposedly has a 3.46:1 rear end ratio. AFAIK my car has a 3.42:1, seems like the lower ratio will make my car a little quicker off the line but lose me a little top end. Thats fine, I've never found the very top, I'm also thinking .04 difference isn't squat and probably won't even mess up the speedo appreciably... Anyway opinions? I think I may have finally realized where to take it if I want the bearings replaced. Theres a very good transmission shop nearby that should be able to do it. I'll swing by this week and get them to look at it. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WTF?
Who would vandalize such a pretty car? On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/85203.html All the wood and moldings are gone? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diff noise
On Sep 23, 2008, at 3:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I got my 190D back, the diff bearing is still making noise The diff on my 82 300SD has been making noise for the 55k miles I've been driving it. It's never gotten any worse, so I've stopped worrying about it. Dan 82 300SD, 310k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WTF?
Already a parts car? Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:03 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] WTF? http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/85203.html All the wood and moldings are gone? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trek to Starfest 2008
Loren, I recently read a new book-photo essay type book on the Lincoln Highway-have you seen it? That would be sweet-MB's from NYC to CA. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- In 2013, Werner is planning a coast to coast Lincoln highway tour, to mark the 100th anniversary of the Lincoln Highway. I want to drive on that trip! For MBCA members: Start lobbying now to make this an official MBCA event! Loren (who lives about 1 block form the original Lincoln Highway.) At 05:48 PM 9/22/2008, you wrote: Can't make it. Killer office schedule this week, plus my boss is on vacation the entire week so I get to do both my job and her job. (The upside (?) is that I am an 'acting-Director' for five days.) Besides, Hickory Park is far from vegetarian friendly. I'd have to order a large portion of coleslaw. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Don, Are you coming over for some BBQ tomorrow night? Hickory Park, 7 PM. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D diff continued
Curt, et al. The 201 diff. bolts to the sub-frame, no mounts. Fred Moir Lynn MA 300TD 190DT Bent 190DT Blue At 04:24 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Interesting, I seem to remember that also. How big a deal is the mount to do? I'm putting together my next parts order right now anyway. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WTF?
Alles. It's twin (with mouldings) is in Naumkeg J/Y 90 380SEL Fred Moir Lynn MA At 04:30 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Who would vandalize such a pretty car? On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/85203.html All the wood and moldings are gone? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WTF?/etc
Several years ago, I was at PNP scrounging parts for my 81 300D; 'glanced inside a 126 beside the 123 I was picking from, and low and behold, there lay on the rear floor of the 126 a complete set of wood door moldings perfectly matching those in my 91 126! 'Snapped 'em up; 'used one of 'em few years ago; 'lucky to have exactly what I needed when the need came. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
Two words. Impact Driver. They are the best screwdriver ever invented. I have the 18v Dewalt version and it's rumored to be able to drive a 6 lag bolt into wood without a pilot hole. I've not tried it myself, but maybe I will later today. When driving screws into hard wood, you must drill pilot holes or you will split the wood. Luther OK Don wrote: I am going to be installing new kitchen cabinets soon, and am thinking about the number of screws I'll be driving. I don't think me arthritic wrists are up to job anymore, so am thinking about one of these new fangled cordless screw driver/drill thingies. My question is, how much torque, or voltage do I need in a device to drive the appropriate screws into/through hickory? I see the range (when it's mentioned) ot 100 to 500 inch/pounds. Any recommendations? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Friday humor Politics Fw: illegal aliens
They keep promising global warming but so far we have not seen much improvement. I say, bring it on - especially about January. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Friday humor Politics Fw: illegal aliens Yeah, but your winters will be moderating as the planet heats up... Besides, my BIL is the biggest whiner about the cold, and he has lived in Manitoba and Edmonton his entire life. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:06 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but we know you are going to complain about the weather. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Friday humor Politics Fw: illegal aliens I am practically an honorary Canadian anyway already, with my multiple visits and complete lack of rude thoughts or actions. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:10 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe Canada? We are likely in the process of giving Harper a majority this election. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Friday humor Politics Fw: illegal aliens Where will the conservatives go when Obama/Biden prevail? On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - Subject: illegal aliens just kidding ... i think ... From the MANITOBA HERALD, Canada (a very underground paper): The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration. The possibility of a McCain/Palin election is prompting the exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray, and agree with Bill O'Reilly. Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal rights activists and Unitarians crossing their fields at night. I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn, said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota . The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry. He asked me if I could spar e a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn't have any, he left. Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh? In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. Not real effective, he said. The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk. Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves. A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions, an Ontario border patrolman said. I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though. When liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the McCain administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to shoot wolves from airplanes, deny evolution, and act out drills preparing them for the Rapture. In recent days, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers on Pe rry Como and Rosemary Clooney hits to prove they were alive in the '50s. If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age, an official said. Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies. I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them, an Ottawa resident said. How many art-history and English majors does one country need? Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Earth first... log the other planets later.
Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air
My doctor says that people need humidity levels that are bad for the house. He says water running off of the windows is about right. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Moisture in air You are absolutely correct. When it is cold outside (i.e., winter, usually) the air holds less moisture (humidity, water vapor) so when it is heated up it is still dry. I used a steamer kettle on my woodstove in the winter, helped a lot. I had a triple-dekka in Boston years ago, rented the top floor to a black woman and her 2 daughters. One cold winter day I went up there to fix something, and it was about 90F and like a sweltering swamp in there. They had the heat cranked up, and a 5 gal pot on the stove boiling like a witch's cauldron. I made some comment about the ambient conditions and she explained to me that black folks were more prone to dry skin in the winter, so they kept it like that to avoid skin rashes and such. I had never heard that before. It was actually hotter and more humid than Boston summers, go figure. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I've got to jump on this My position: Using a wood stove does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. Using a electric heat does nothing to reduce the moisture in your home. If you disagree with this position, than please answer the following question: When using a wood stove or electric heat, where does the moisture go? I would like to suggest that we only use heat sources during cold weather when there is no moisture in the ambient air to start with. Pete Who has been known to cause major disturbances with this topic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE Venting clothes drier (dryer) inside
I wonder about using some sort of housing with either an air filter out of a car or out of a shop vacuum? I sort of wonder if the dust needs to be taken down to a small level - 1 micron? Maybe use the stocking first and then the filter to keep the filter cleaner longer? Or, one might be able to use the material that they use for shop dust collectors and make some sort of bag. Wouldn't want to reduce the flow from the machine or it will take longer to dry. Have to be a bit careful with the humidity here in the colder areas too - maybe feed it into an HRV that periodically defrosts itself. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you? You can use that in your navel you know. --R Wonko the Sane wrote: I installed (I am sure duct tape was involved) one of my socks to the end of the dryer discharge hose. Caught 99% of the lint -- but had to be changed occasionally. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Not only excessive moisture in the house, but lint, too. BTW, there is an attachment for the duct that can recover most of that heat and still exhaust the moisture and lint outside. It's an X-type duct with heat exchanger in the middle - dryer air goes outside, the heat stays inside, but you don't get something for nothing - 'have to run a small fan, I think, to move house air through the heat exchanger. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
I use it on ANY screw. Small or large. It will NOT strip them if you keep enough pressure on the screw, which turns out to be way less pressure than ANY drill driver I've ever used. Luther OK Don wrote: I noticed those, but have never used one. Yes, I know about pilot holes, and have the proper bits. I wasn't sure about using a heavy duty tool with the word impact on my wife's new cabinets. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two words. Impact Driver. They are the best screwdriver ever invented. I have the 18v Dewalt version and it's rumored to be able to drive a 6 lag bolt into wood without a pilot hole. I've not tried it myself, but maybe I will later today. When driving screws into hard wood, you must drill pilot holes or you will split the wood. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (278,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (181 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion Quoting OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am going to be installing new kitchen cabinets soon, and am thinking about the number of screws I'll be driving. I don't think me arthritic wrists are up to job anymore, so am thinking about one of these new fangled cordless screw driver/drill thingies. My question is, how much torque, or voltage do I need in a device to drive the appropriate screws into/through hickory? I see the range (when it's mentioned) ot 100 to 500 inch/pounds. Any recommendations? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - moisture in air
Following is an article I wrote on the subject several years ago. It's long, but some listers may find it useful. For others, please forgive me for boring you with it. MOISTURE CONDENSATION IN ATTICS CRAWLSPACES By Wilton Strickland A combination of excessive moisture (high relative humidity in the affected area), inadequate ventilation and cool surfaces in attics and under-floor crawlspaces can cause condensation and/or fungal growth, rot, etc., on the undersides of roof floor structures and lead to serious damages to the structures. Generally, if wood has a moisture content of more than about 20%, significant damage can occur, but a moisture meter is not needed to be able to see that wood and insulation are soaking wet and dripping with condensation or badly stained and/or covered with significant staining, surface damage or fungal growth and to know that the wood is wet enough, or has been wet enough, for serious damages to occur if these conditions persist. Designers, builders and homeowners should be aware of and understand this potential problem in order to combat it adequately. Home inspectors should be able to recognize and understand the problem in order to properly report it and recommend improvements to alleviate it. Condensation occurs on building surfaces when the relative humidity is high, ventilation is poor the surfaces are cool. Relative humidity is expressed as a percentage of moisture present in air relative to the amount of moisture the same air can hold. Generally, warmer air can hold more moisture than cooler air. When air is cooled below its dew point (the temperature at which the air is saturated or has 100% relative humidity), some of the moisture condenses into visible water, such as fog, rain, snow, dew, etc. This same action causes condensation to form on surfaces of cool objects that cause the air in immediate contact with the object to cool below the dew point. For example, condensation on the outside of cold drink glasses, the insides of cold car and house windows or dew on grass. If enough air (ventilation) is moving across these surfaces, however, the condensation does not form - air in contact with the surface does not have time to be cooled below the dew point. In confined areas of buildings with inadequate or reduced ventilation, condensation forms when warm, moist air comes in contact with a surface cold enough to cool the air in immediate contact with the surface below the dew point - just like the cold drink glass or car windows. This can occur even in heated areas with poorly insulated walls and ceilings, inside closets or any area with poor ventilation, high humidity and cool surfaces. Condensation often forms on the cold underside of roof sheathing and on rafters when warm, moist air rising from the living area comes in contact with the cold roof structure. It is usually not economically feasible to try to keep moisture from getting into the attic from the living space. Moisture enters the living space from several sources: the ground under the house, the air around us, cooking, laundry, gas logs, bathing, breathing, evaporation from our bodies, from plants, etc. Moisture from some of these sources can be reasonably reduced (by reducing water entering the crawlspace from in the yard and off the roof, by improved vapor barriers and ventilation in crawlspaces and improved ventilation in bathrooms, kitchens and laundry rooms), but much of this moisture cannot be reasonably eliminated. Moisture is a natural byproduct of human life. Therefore, this moisture must be allowed to escape to the outside without doing damage to the structure. The most natural way for the moisture to escape is to rise through the ceiling into the attic. If adequate ventilation is not maintained in the attic during cold weather, this moisture can condense on the cold underside of the roof and, in time, cause serious damage to the structure. Maintaining good attic ventilation, therefore, is very important year-round - not just in summer. Condensation does not form on the underside of the roof during hot weather because the roof is usually much warmer than air in the attic at that time. Attic ventilation is important in summer to reduce the potential for damage to the shingles from overheating and to reduce the cooling load in the house, but it is important in winter to let moisture in the house escape to the outside without damaging the roof structure. Attic vents should not be blocked or sealed in winter! If there are dark, mildew-type stains or wetness on the underside of the roof or on the rafters not caused by a leak, the homeowner should try to improve ventilation in the affected area of the attic. This can be done by installing additional soffit vents by adding ridge vent(s) or wind turbines on the roof. The most efficient attic venting system takes advantage of natural convection - the natural tendency for warm air to rise. This system has intake vents down
Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air
Ironic timing -- when I saw the subject line, I slid up to the computer, about to to reply that Wilton might have some professional expertise in this area. You fired a JATO bottle before I had the opportunity. (How many folks are Googling JATO, Wilton? grin) D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Following is an article I wrote on the subject several years ago. It's long, but some listers may find it useful. For others, please forgive me for boring you with it. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
It seems than at Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:37:06 -0400, Mitch wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: In another couple weeks I'm going to stop sending dryer air outside to see if it will impact our oil usage... That kind of moisture can do real damage to a house... Or be a great assistance to keeping the humidity above 10%... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
Your mpg may vary. Lots of variables. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:37:06 -0400, Mitch wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: In another couple weeks I'm going to stop sending dryer air outside to see if it will impact our oil usage... That kind of moisture can do real damage to a house... Or be a great assistance to keeping the humidity above 10%... --Philip -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air
Yes, Wonko, I do have some experience/expertise in this area. 'Little bit in the JATO area, too. BTW, you know, of course, what is commonly known as JATO is REALLY RATO (Rocket Assisted Take Off). Did you ever see it used on a CG aircraft? 'Think I've seen some photos of such. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Ironic timing -- when I saw the subject line, I slid up to the computer, about to to reply that Wilton might have some professional expertise in this area. You fired a JATO bottle before I had the opportunity. (How many folks are Googling JATO, Wilton? grin) D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Following is an article I wrote on the subject several years ago. It's long, but some listers may find it useful. For others, please forgive me for boring you with it. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air
Before my time. When I earned my Aircrew Wings (1976) the Albatross had been banned from water landings and was being babied for more potential years on the airframe. We were based at the Otis AFB site, really long runways (only a third of which we needed on Runway 32). Was a kick on runway 32 to be airborne (gear up) leaving or come to a full stop landing (returning) with lots of F-106 skid marks still out in front of us on the runway. USCG pilots learned in Pensacola to land on a carrier if necessary. USAF pilots learned to land on a continent.:-) I was also nav qualified in the HH-3F, but JATO is discouraged in helicopters! http://military.usptgear.com/Share/Utils/view.asp?ProdID=HOOVER15240 But I flew with some experienced pilots who told great stories of four/six JATO bottles each side on a water take-off in the HU-16E. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, you know, of course, what is commonly known as JATO is REALLY RATO (Rocket Assisted Take Off). Did you ever see it used on a CG aircraft? 'Think I've seen some photos of such. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Ironic timing -- when I saw the subject line, I slid up to the computer, about to to reply that Wilton might have some professional expertise in this area. You fired a JATO bottle before I had the opportunity. (How many folks are Googling JATO, Wilton? grin) D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Following is an article I wrote on the subject several years ago. It's long, but some listers may find it useful. For others, please forgive me for boring you with it. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air
Yeah, 'thought I'd seen photos of HU-16 JATO takeoff. I agree, JATO not advisable for 'copters. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Before my time. When I earned my Aircrew Wings (1976) the Albatross had been banned from water landings and was being babied for more potential years on the airframe. We were based at the Otis AFB site, really long runways (only a third of which we needed on Runway 32). Was a kick on runway 32 to be airborne (gear up) leaving or come to a full stop landing (returning) with lots of F-106 skid marks still out in front of us on the runway. USCG pilots learned in Pensacola to land on a carrier if necessary. USAF pilots learned to land on a continent.:-) I was also nav qualified in the HH-3F, but JATO is discouraged in helicopters! http://military.usptgear.com/Share/Utils/view.asp?ProdID=HOOVER15240 But I flew with some experienced pilots who told great stories of four/six JATO bottles each side on a water take-off in the HU-16E. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, you know, of course, what is commonly known as JATO is REALLY RATO (Rocket Assisted Take Off). Did you ever see it used on a CG aircraft? 'Think I've seen some photos of such. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Ironic timing -- when I saw the subject line, I slid up to the computer, about to to reply that Wilton might have some professional expertise in this area. You fired a JATO bottle before I had the opportunity. (How many folks are Googling JATO, Wilton? grin) D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Following is an article I wrote on the subject several years ago. It's long, but some listers may find it useful. For others, please forgive me for boring you with it. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
I like this drill a lot, except for the hex bit requirement - any way to adapt a jacobs chuck to one of these beasts? On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Amazon (I buy tools from them, good deals) they have a reconditioned one for $80, very good price. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8keywords=Bosch%20driversearch-type=besttag=coffeeresearch13289-20index=toolslink_code=qs Bosch PS10-2 Litheon 10.8-Volt Lithium-Ion I-Driver Kit http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-PS10-2-10-8-Volt-Lithium-Ion-I-Driver/dp/B000F4ILD4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1222192079sr=1-5 Factory-Reconditioned Bosch PS10-2-RT Litheon 10.8 Volt Lithium-Ion I-Driver Kit http://www.amazon.com/Factory-Reconditioned-Bosch-PS10-2-RT-Lithium-Ion-I-Driver/dp/B000PDJKZ8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1222192079sr=1-9 ---R -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air
Found a photo of one of my favorite airframes. This plane was bullet-proof. It was NOT built on a Monday -- it was built like a Benz (and was a lot like a 240D). http://www.semperparatus.com/images/hu16e_grumman_albatross.jpg Hundreds of hours navigating the 7245 out on George's Bank. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any photos of the Goat in a JATO shot (other than dropping bottles afterwards). On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yeah, 'thought I'd seen photos of HU-16 JATO takeoff. I agree, JATO not advisable for 'copters. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Before my time. When I earned my Aircrew Wings (1976) the Albatross had been banned from water landings and was being babied for more potential years on the airframe. We were based at the Otis AFB site, really long runways (only a third of which we needed on Runway 32). Was a kick on runway 32 to be airborne (gear up) leaving or come to a full stop landing (returning) with lots of F-106 skid marks still out in front of us on the runway. USCG pilots learned in Pensacola to land on a carrier if necessary. USAF pilots learned to land on a continent.:-) I was also nav qualified in the HH-3F, but JATO is discouraged in helicopters! http://military.usptgear.com/Share/Utils/view.asp?ProdID=HOOVER15240 But I flew with some experienced pilots who told great stories of four/six JATO bottles each side on a water take-off in the HU-16E. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, you know, of course, what is commonly known as JATO is REALLY RATO (Rocket Assisted Take Off). Did you ever see it used on a CG aircraft? 'Think I've seen some photos of such. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Ironic timing -- when I saw the subject line, I slid up to the computer, about to to reply that Wilton might have some professional expertise in this area. You fired a JATO bottle before I had the opportunity. (How many folks are Googling JATO, Wilton? grin) D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Following is an article I wrote on the subject several years ago. It's long, but some listers may find it useful. For others, please forgive me for boring you with it. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
This one is both the swivel Bosch, AND an impact driver! Looks about right for installing cabinets, but uses hex bits. It's ALWAYS something! On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use it on ANY screw. Small or large. It will NOT strip them if you keep enough pressure on the screw, which turns out to be way less pressure than ANY drill driver I've ever used. Luther -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Front Bumper Replacement
hell if I know, never wrecked the car. Wonko the Sane wrote: Does the air bag function? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I just changed one the other day, well, it was the whole bumper. Took me longer to find the tools than to do the job No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.1/1687 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 6:32 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air
Yep, a fine, tough bird. Wilton, 5000 hrs in another toughun. - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Found a photo of one of my favorite airframes. This plane was bullet-proof. It was NOT built on a Monday -- it was built like a Benz (and was a lot like a 240D). http://www.semperparatus.com/images/hu16e_grumman_albatross.jpg Hundreds of hours navigating the 7245 out on George's Bank. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any photos of the Goat in a JATO shot (other than dropping bottles afterwards). On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yeah, 'thought I'd seen photos of HU-16 JATO takeoff. I agree, JATO not advisable for 'copters. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Before my time. When I earned my Aircrew Wings (1976) the Albatross had been banned from water landings and was being babied for more potential years on the airframe. We were based at the Otis AFB site, really long runways (only a third of which we needed on Runway 32). Was a kick on runway 32 to be airborne (gear up) leaving or come to a full stop landing (returning) with lots of F-106 skid marks still out in front of us on the runway. USCG pilots learned in Pensacola to land on a carrier if necessary. USAF pilots learned to land on a continent.:-) I was also nav qualified in the HH-3F, but JATO is discouraged in helicopters! http://military.usptgear.com/Share/Utils/view.asp?ProdID=HOOVER15240 But I flew with some experienced pilots who told great stories of four/six JATO bottles each side on a water take-off in the HU-16E. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, you know, of course, what is commonly known as JATO is REALLY RATO (Rocket Assisted Take Off). Did you ever see it used on a CG aircraft? 'Think I've seen some photos of such. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Ironic timing -- when I saw the subject line, I slid up to the computer, about to to reply that Wilton might have some professional expertise in this area. You fired a JATO bottle before I had the opportunity. (How many folks are Googling JATO, Wilton? grin) D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Following is an article I wrote on the subject several years ago. It's long, but some listers may find it useful. For others, please forgive me for boring you with it. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you
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Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air
BTW, the only thing I get to come up on the military.esptgear site is the photo of gold wings. What are they, Navy enlisted aircrew wings? Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Found a photo of one of my favorite airframes. This plane was bullet-proof. It was NOT built on a Monday -- it was built like a Benz (and was a lot like a 240D). http://www.semperparatus.com/images/hu16e_grumman_albatross.jpg Hundreds of hours navigating the 7245 out on George's Bank. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any photos of the Goat in a JATO shot (other than dropping bottles afterwards). On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yeah, 'thought I'd seen photos of HU-16 JATO takeoff. I agree, JATO not advisable for 'copters. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Before my time. When I earned my Aircrew Wings (1976) the Albatross had been banned from water landings and was being babied for more potential years on the airframe. We were based at the Otis AFB site, really long runways (only a third of which we needed on Runway 32). Was a kick on runway 32 to be airborne (gear up) leaving or come to a full stop landing (returning) with lots of F-106 skid marks still out in front of us on the runway. USCG pilots learned in Pensacola to land on a carrier if necessary. USAF pilots learned to land on a continent.:-) I was also nav qualified in the HH-3F, but JATO is discouraged in helicopters! http://military.usptgear.com/Share/Utils/view.asp?ProdID=HOOVER15240 But I flew with some experienced pilots who told great stories of four/six JATO bottles each side on a water take-off in the HU-16E. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, you know, of course, what is commonly known as JATO is REALLY RATO (Rocket Assisted Take Off). Did you ever see it used on a CG aircraft? 'Think I've seen some photos of such. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Ironic timing -- when I saw the subject line, I slid up to the computer, about to to reply that Wilton might have some professional expertise in this area. You fired a JATO bottle before I had the opportunity. (How many folks are Googling JATO, Wilton? grin) D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Following is an article I wrote on the subject several years ago. It's long, but some listers may find it useful. For others, please forgive me for boring you with it. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/
Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air
Oh, I'm sorry! I meant COAST GUARD wings! Or do they use same as Navy? Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Found a photo of one of my favorite airframes. This plane was bullet-proof. It was NOT built on a Monday -- it was built like a Benz (and was a lot like a 240D). http://www.semperparatus.com/images/hu16e_grumman_albatross.jpg Hundreds of hours navigating the 7245 out on George's Bank. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any photos of the Goat in a JATO shot (other than dropping bottles afterwards). On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yeah, 'thought I'd seen photos of HU-16 JATO takeoff. I agree, JATO not advisable for 'copters. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Before my time. When I earned my Aircrew Wings (1976) the Albatross had been banned from water landings and was being babied for more potential years on the airframe. We were based at the Otis AFB site, really long runways (only a third of which we needed on Runway 32). Was a kick on runway 32 to be airborne (gear up) leaving or come to a full stop landing (returning) with lots of F-106 skid marks still out in front of us on the runway. USCG pilots learned in Pensacola to land on a carrier if necessary. USAF pilots learned to land on a continent.:-) I was also nav qualified in the HH-3F, but JATO is discouraged in helicopters! http://military.usptgear.com/Share/Utils/view.asp?ProdID=HOOVER15240 But I flew with some experienced pilots who told great stories of four/six JATO bottles each side on a water take-off in the HU-16E. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, you know, of course, what is commonly known as JATO is REALLY RATO (Rocket Assisted Take Off). Did you ever see it used on a CG aircraft? 'Think I've seen some photos of such. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Ironic timing -- when I saw the subject line, I slid up to the computer, about to to reply that Wilton might have some professional expertise in this area. You fired a JATO bottle before I had the opportunity. (How many folks are Googling JATO, Wilton? grin) D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Following is an article I wrote on the subject several years ago. It's long, but some listers may find it useful. For others, please forgive me for boring you with it. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be
Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air
Yes (and answering your following email) -- they are Aircrew Wings. Navy and Coast Guard and (I think) Marines share the same badge. In some ways, they are more valued in the Coast Guard than pilot wings. Pilots did six years and went to the airlines -- aircrew folks often hung around for a career. They are enlisted air crew wings, very special and not easy to earn. It means that you have qualified to fly alone (without an instructor) in the airframe and can do the job for which you are qualified. You have to lose the USAF mindset, Wilton, to understand the following. In the Coast Guard, officers fly the planes. Everything (EVERYTHING) aft of the pilot and co-pilot are enlisted crew. We kept the plane in the air and the pilots pointed it through the sky. I felt a special bond between the officers and enlisted in the Coast Guard, because the pilots knew that the guys sitting aft of them had the same live to fly again investment in the airframe. I flew as navigator, which I think is an officer position in the USAF. I did it as an E2 (University graduate) and was our air station's primary nav instructor and check-ride-guy when I went off to OCS as an E6 (three years later). If I didn't think they had the right stuff, I sent them back for additional training, and no officer ever questioned my decision. ... If I said they were ready, the pilots knew this guy could navigate them to hell and back (all flights over the ocean), using Loran-A, Loran-C, or (in the event of a power failure) find the closest point of land with DR and a compass. To be honest, I was a total prick on check rides -- but I wanted my guys to always come home alive. I wasn't always popular with my students, but I knew when they went off on their first patrol alone, they could bring the bird home no matter what happened. And no one, after earning their wings, ever had a bad word to say about me (to my face), other than a thank you later. Here is what makes the Coast Guard unique, even from the Navy. In the Navy, some folks fix planes and some folks fly. Coast Guard doesn't do that. As an avionics tech, I fixed the equipment and then climbed into the airframe each day and headed offshore for a patrol. Everyone did. We had NO guys who didn't fix and fly. If you have an aviation specialty, you are air crew or you go to a boat (and get a new rating). The same guys who did the mechanics (including engine changes) flew as flight mechanic (in the USAF known as flight engineer). I was the ONLY guy at the CGAS who calibrated the RADALTs. Our mission was flying 50 feet on the RADALT making passes on fishing boats. Guess who died if I got lazy and was +/- 15 feet on the calibration? I was also the guy who calibrated the ILS boxes. How important is that? I never worried when we had to do an ILS approach, because I knew we were spot-on on the instruments. If not, _I_ as the guy who died. I was the last guy at CGAS Cape Cod to be dual-qualified in the Goat as nav/radio AND flight engineer. Took a bit of persuasion to get the wrench-turners to qualify me as a nose-picker. There was not a lot of love lost between the avionics guys and the mechanics. We needed a much higher ASVAB score to even get into school and were seen by them as somewhat elitist. Fortunately, I don't mind getting oil on my hands. I like to think I earned their trust by my professionalism. Truth is, I pestered the hell out of the E9 until he gave in and let me get qualified. USCG Aviation is a unique breed. We flew hard, we were professional, we did good, and we partied hard. If you saw the movie The Guardians -- that movie is 100% accurate of Coast Guard aviation. Ok, for everyone except Wilton, I apologize for my verbose post. Wilton will understand. D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, the only thing I get to come up on the military.esptgear site is the photo of gold wings. What are they, Navy enlisted aircrew wings? Wilton -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Front Bumper Replacement
I think the air bag has some interconnection to the front bumper -- but I might be in error. If the steering wheel doesn't have a big balloon sticking out, we should be cool. D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: hell if I know, never wrecked the car. Wonko the Sane wrote: Does the air bag function? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just changed one the other day, well, it was the whole bumper. Took me longer to find the tools than to do the job No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.1/1687 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 6:32 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Front Bumper Replacement
The temp sensor is in the front bumper. Brian Toscano Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:23:12 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Front Bumper Replacement I think the air bag has some interconnection to the front bumper -- but I might be in error. If the steering wheel doesn't have a big balloon sticking out, we should be cool. D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: hell if I know, never wrecked the car. Wonko the Sane wrote: Does the air bag function? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just changed one the other day, well, it was the whole bumper. Took me longer to find the tools than to do the job No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.1/1687 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 6:32 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] anyone want a nice 81 300SD? $1950
Came across a nice looking 81 300SD (126) at the gas station in Des Moines today while i was filling up. Guy said he moved here from GA, car has Georgia plates on it. He said 270k miles. Had new tires and looked decently maintained. Seems like a cheap price for a nice SD. I have his phone number if anyone is interested. The usual disclaimers The guy seemed a little weird, but getting steamed in GA summers may do that to ya! Then again, most of us who drive old diesels are a little weird. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 126
There's a HELL of a lot of water in a load of laundry. We dry on racks when time and conditions allow. So how's that worse than venting the dryer inside? With my Fisher and Paykel, I had picked that out as our next washer, to replace the 40yo Kenmore. (Well over 30, anyway.) So my wife bought the cheapie Maytag at Costco. I swear it makes more distressed noises than the one it replaced. It has a few plusses: a metal lid and a mechanical timer. Just like the one it replaced. Feels a lot cheaper, though. No way it'll last 40 years. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air
Oh, I understand. You have every right to be proud of those gold wings, and I meant no less - just trying to make sure I had the nomenclature right. Don't forget, I've been enlisted, too, though only 3 years and 7 months - B-47E maint. crew chief . I'm also very well aware that it takes more than a PILOT to properly fly/operate an aircraft, especialy a multi-crew-position one. It takes the ENTIRE crew working as a well-trained team - not just one guy up front all by himself (or herself these days). Too many laymen can't seem to understand that. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - moisture in air Yes (and answering your following email) -- they are Aircrew Wings. Navy and Coast Guard and (I think) Marines share the same badge. In some ways, they are more valued in the Coast Guard than pilot wings. Pilots did six years and went to the airlines -- aircrew folks often hung around for a career. They are enlisted air crew wings, very special and not easy to earn. It means that you have qualified to fly alone (without an instructor) in the airframe and can do the job for which you are qualified. You have to lose the USAF mindset, Wilton, to understand the following. In the Coast Guard, officers fly the planes. Everything (EVERYTHING) aft of the pilot and co-pilot are enlisted crew. We kept the plane in the air and the pilots pointed it through the sky. I felt a special bond between the officers and enlisted in the Coast Guard, because the pilots knew that the guys sitting aft of them had the same live to fly again investment in the airframe. I flew as navigator, which I think is an officer position in the USAF. I did it as an E2 (University graduate) and was our air station's primary nav instructor and check-ride-guy when I went off to OCS as an E6 (three years later). If I didn't think they had the right stuff, I sent them back for additional training, and no officer ever questioned my decision. ... If I said they were ready, the pilots knew this guy could navigate them to hell and back (all flights over the ocean), using Loran-A, Loran-C, or (in the event of a power failure) find the closest point of land with DR and a compass. To be honest, I was a total prick on check rides -- but I wanted my guys to always come home alive. I wasn't always popular with my students, but I knew when they went off on their first patrol alone, they could bring the bird home no matter what happened. And no one, after earning their wings, ever had a bad word to say about me (to my face), other than a thank you later. Here is what makes the Coast Guard unique, even from the Navy. In the Navy, some folks fix planes and some folks fly. Coast Guard doesn't do that. As an avionics tech, I fixed the equipment and then climbed into the airframe each day and headed offshore for a patrol. Everyone did. We had NO guys who didn't fix and fly. If you have an aviation specialty, you are air crew or you go to a boat (and get a new rating). The same guys who did the mechanics (including engine changes) flew as flight mechanic (in the USAF known as flight engineer). I was the ONLY guy at the CGAS who calibrated the RADALTs. Our mission was flying 50 feet on the RADALT making passes on fishing boats. Guess who died if I got lazy and was +/- 15 feet on the calibration? I was also the guy who calibrated the ILS boxes. How important is that? I never worried when we had to do an ILS approach, because I knew we were spot-on on the instruments. If not, _I_ as the guy who died. I was the last guy at CGAS Cape Cod to be dual-qualified in the Goat as nav/radio AND flight engineer. Took a bit of persuasion to get the wrench-turners to qualify me as a nose-picker. There was not a lot of love lost between the avionics guys and the mechanics. We needed a much higher ASVAB score to even get into school and were seen by them as somewhat elitist. Fortunately, I don't mind getting oil on my hands. I like to think I earned their trust by my professionalism. Truth is, I pestered the hell out of the E9 until he gave in and let me get qualified. USCG Aviation is a unique breed. We flew hard, we were professional, we did good, and we partied hard. If you saw the movie The Guardians -- that movie is 100% accurate of Coast Guard aviation. Ok, for everyone except Wilton, I apologize for my verbose post. Wilton will understand. D. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, the only thing I get to come up on the military.esptgear site is the photo of gold wings. What are they, Navy enlisted aircrew wings? Wilton -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tractors
cool! I always thought an MD would be fun Our original '39 H started on gas then ran on kerosene. The WWII vintage TD series crawlers are interesting too. For a while IH had a TD that was bigger than any caterpillar product. At 03:23 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Speaking of which I got to see a Farmall Super MD on Sunday, it was running a shingle mill. The MDs all started on gas and when the engine warmed up could switch over to diesel. Its pretty amazing to see in action. That shingle mill was from the 1890s and was pretty much all the Super MD could handle. In its time that was considered a pretty big tractor too. Nothing compared to a steam tractor though. -Curt Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:02:42 -0500 From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Washing machines; was: Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 126 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed The washers built 40 years ago with blackmore or blackwell (or something like that) designed guts had a spin cycle like a commercial laundry extractor (centrifuge). They would wind up and whine like a banshee, but stuff came out pretty dry. They were deemed unsafe by our consumer watchdogs. I prefer to think of things labelled unsafe as Darwinian selection devices. Part of our society's problems have been caused by coddling the people stupid enough to burn themselves with fast food coffee, etc. Or at least not self-sufficient enough to deal with the consequences of their actions. Tricycle tractors come to mind. An International H or Super C is a wonderful device, as long as you respect it. Slip up, and it will kill ya! I have logged lotsa hours on H and A tractors I love em. An H will spin on a dime and give back change. At 12:30 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Dan Weeks wrote: I did that one winter also. NOT a good idea. lots of moisture on the windows, stuff got mildewed, etc. There's a HELL of a lot of water in a load of laundry. If you're going to keep that water indoors, get yourself some wooden drying racks and quit running the dryer. Then, instead of covering the walls, doors, windows with water, the clothes will release the water as the air can handle it. Also, the amount of water depends on the spin speed of the washer. With my Fisher and Paykel, I can wash my heavy winter coat and air dry it on the rack in a few hours. With a 40 year old Kenmore, the coat would drip water on the floor if I hung it up straight from the washer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a nice 300SD
On Sep 23, 2008, at 8:47 PM, Loren wrote: Came across a nice looking 81 300SD (126) at the gas station in Des Moines today while i was filling up. Guy said he moved here from GA, car has Georgia plates on it. He said 270k miles. Had new tires and looked decently maintained. Seems like a cheap price for a nice SD. I have his phone number if anyone is interested. The usual disclaimers The guy seemed a little weird, but getting steamed in GA summers may do that to ya! Then again, most of us who drive old diesels are a little weird. I pulled up beside that guy a few months ago in MY 300SD, and we exchanged stoplight banter. He said he'd just bought it for 2,000, that it came from Georgia, and that he was going to keep it in a garage to maintain its' good condition. We exchanged mileages (I think he said 270 then, too) and the light turned green. I assumed that it was the $2k 300SD I'd seen in the classifieds over the weekend, and that he'd just bought it. So, it sounds a bit weird all around, but it was a brief conversation and maybe I misunderstood. The car DID look very nice, and that's a great price. Dan Des Moines ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
It is fairly low RPM/high torque so drilling is not a forte. You can put those speed drill bits with the hex ends in it for pilot holes and such, but it doesn't do too well. --R OK Don wrote: I like this drill a lot, except for the hex bit requirement - any way to adapt a jacobs chuck to one of these beasts? On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Amazon (I buy tools from them, good deals) they have a reconditioned one for $80, very good price. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8keywords=Bosch%20driversearch-type=besttag=coffeeresearch13289-20index=toolslink_code=qs Bosch PS10-2 Litheon 10.8-Volt Lithium-Ion I-Driver Kit http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-PS10-2-10-8-Volt-Lithium-Ion-I-Driver/dp/B000F4ILD4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1222192079sr=1-5 Factory-Reconditioned Bosch PS10-2-RT Litheon 10.8 Volt Lithium-Ion I-Driver Kit http://www.amazon.com/Factory-Reconditioned-Bosch-PS10-2-RT-Lithium-Ion-I-Driver/dp/B000PDJKZ8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1222192079sr=1-9 ---R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Windows on a Mac
Who was looking for a copy of Parallels? They have a bundle deal out right now that's got Parallels and 9-10 other titles for $49. I got my copy this way... http://www.parallels.com/en/green_bundle1/ Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - cordless screw drivers
On reconsidering, I already have a couple of corded drills - don't really need another drill, so will only consider this tool to be a screw driver. I looked on Lowes' web site, and yes, they do sell Bosch, but the site said that my local store didn't carry them. We went there anyway, to look at what they might have (and counter tops), and they they were - one on display, and another in a sealed box! Can't trust the web site - it's not tied to a real-time database. It's $150 at Lowes, and $110 (new) at Amazon. Of course, there were also $15 cordless screw drivers, and everything in between! On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is fairly low RPM/high torque so drilling is not a forte. You can put those speed drill bits with the hex ends in it for pilot holes and such, but it doesn't do too well. --R -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE Venting clothes drier (dryer) inside
I tried this once, almost thirty years ago - built a box out of three A/C filters, aluminum sheets (top and bottom) and duct tape. There was way too much moisture in the house, and fine lint did pass through the filters. Of course, it was too dry without it -- On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:37 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder about using some sort of housing with either an air filter out of a car or out of a shop vacuum? I sort of wonder if the dust needs to be taken down to a small level - 1 micron? Maybe use the stocking first and then the filter to keep the filter cleaner longer? Or, one might be able to use the material that they use for shop dust collectors and make some sort of bag. Wouldn't want to reduce the flow from the machine or it will take longer to dry. Have to be a bit careful with the humidity here in the colder areas too - maybe feed it into an HRV that periodically defrosts itself. Randy -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
The fibers are too short to make thread from. We tried making hand laid paper with it - still too short, had to mix it with other fibers. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you want a practical solution on what to do with all that lint? Get a spinning wheel and make thread or yarn, then take up weaving or knitting... And viola! Fully recyclable piece of clothing.! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT was what about you, now Washer Lint
If you really won't lint, strain the washer water. I plumbed my house for both black and gray sewage. The black goes directly to the septic plant. The gray goes to a settlement barrel, then to a 55 gallon barrel with a float operated pump. I made a six port manifold that allows gray water to be directed to various places in the yard and discharged through homemade PVC sprinkler heads. The lint caught in a strainer at the 55 gal barrel is more than I ever dreamed. I don't see how clothes last as long as they do. I installed valves that allow me to send gray water to the plant in case something goes wrong with the pumping system. - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you? The fibers are too short to make thread from. We tried making hand laid paper with it - still too short, had to mix it with other fibers. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you want a practical solution on what to do with all that lint? Get a spinning wheel and make thread or yarn, then take up weaving or knitting... And viola! Fully recyclable piece of clothing.! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Front Bumper Replacement
no connection to the bumper Wonko the Sane wrote: I think the air bag has some interconnection to the front bumper -- but I might be in error. If the steering wheel doesn't have a big balloon sticking out, we should be cool. D. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Front Bumper Replacement
Where have you been, I though you were dead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The temp sensor is in the front bumper. Brian Toscano Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ralph E Wasserbaech is out of the office.
That was random... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:36 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Ralph E Wasserbaech is out of the office. I will be out of the office starting 09/23/2008 and will not return until 12/24/2008. I have moved on to another project outside of Chrysler. If you need assistance please contact David Dorann (248-576-8340) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300D saga continues
She is attending both Jesuit schools here and at home. For some reason the jeebus stuff does not seem to compute for her. Still trying to get her head around people believing in spaghetti. Too hard to have her understand it is tongue in cheek. I think the way they teach is too literal for her to make sense of. clay On Sep 22, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I don't know about the Pastafarians, but the Jebbies do a good job of edumacating impressionable youngsters. --R Redghost wrote: Last week, taking the kids to school, there was a car with the FSM, may his noodly goodness touch us all!, on the boot lid. Since we were too close to school to go in depth, I promised to tell my temp- daughter what it was all about when we got home in the afternoon. Then I forgot what I was supposed to tell her... until just now. Thanks I explained it and she is now considering becoming a Pastafarian, as it is much more in keeping her belief system than the Jesuit program. clay On Sep 21, 2008, at 8:48 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Y'all Will have to excuse Lt Don this time. He has been eating way to much Awa corn this summah. Everyone (ELSE) knows FSM is Factory Service Manual! Don, Are you coming over for some BBQ tomorrow night? Hickory Park, 7 PM. MBCA crosscountry drive from East coast to the West coast to arrive at Starfest 2008, in SF. Tomorrow night's supper is at Hickory Park. Werner said there are 5 cars so far... If I had insurance on the E320 and Don drove over, we could double their numbers tomorrow night. As is, I think we will have the 300D, the 200D 2.4 and the 380SL there, along with the (dog de) van. At 09:37 PM 9/21/2008, you wrote: Maybe. Maybe not. http://www.venganza.org/ On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Factory Service Manual. Peter On Sep 21, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: Flying Spaghetti Monster gives Benz advice? Cool. I knew I liked that religion for some reason. On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Not according to my MB trained friend nor the FSM. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Iced coffee in Iowa
Temp-daughter looks at me strange when I tell her to eat veggies. Or fruit, or even something new in the way of food, or tell her new things that challenge her vision of reality. It is as if she were confronted by a fish and it starts talking to her. Anyway, she likes her coffee. Talks about needing to get a starbucks. So we did. The looks of talking fish were plenty as she saw people getting iced coffee. Severe WTF. clay On Sep 23, 2008, at 5:23 AM, Dan Weeks wrote: On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Panera doesn't have iced coffee. Curt: I grew up in Mass (Lexington) and have lived in Des Moines for the past 21 years. We do too have iced coffee. The Panera in Ames has iced coffee. I've gotten it there several times. Your waitress was clueless. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
