Re: [MBZ] He smoked some okie meth
It does look nice. Love the color. Dan On Jun 4, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you are trying to sell a car like this for this much at least put more than 2 photos. 1976 Mercedes http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5058359788.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Kleb - Here's the S600 You Missed!!!
BZZZT. Wrong. If you read the post, the MAFs have been replaced. The only real issue he’s got is a possible bad wheel sensor. It’s possible there is a bad wiring harness, but I’m willing to bet it’s been replaced. Sounds like someone was driving it, had issues, had them fixed but didn’t get the codes cleared. It’s in limp-home due to the bad wheel sensor. Remember, he only paid $1500 for the car. He’s got several thousand to go before he hits the value of the car. As long as he does the work himself, he’s going to end up with a pretty nice car for minimal $$. If anything drains his wallet, it will be the cost of fuel. Dan On Jun 4, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You were lucky to dodge THAT bullet. What a nightmare's list of honey-doos. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yea that's got to be it, sure was not as described to me by the seller, who said there were no warning or check engine lights on when I asked. It sounds like it's probably going to need a wiring harness and both the throttle actuator things replaced, the cost of the parts alone is well over the purchase price of the car. Still sort of wish I had not screwed around and missed it. Oh well. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w140-s-class/2373409-s600-1995-new-owner.html#post12184921 I’m pretty sure this is it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Kleb - Here's the S600 You Missed!!!
I see that now, there is the possibility they were replaced with cheap rebuilds that have already failed. In any case I blew it and should have gone down there and got it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BZZZT. Wrong. If you read the post, the MAFs have been replaced. The only real issue he’s got is a possible bad wheel sensor. It’s possible there is a bad wiring harness, but I’m willing to bet it’s been replaced. Sounds like someone was driving it, had issues, had them fixed but didn’t get the codes cleared. It’s in limp-home due to the bad wheel sensor. Remember, he only paid $1500 for the car. He’s got several thousand to go before he hits the value of the car. As long as he does the work himself, he’s going to end up with a pretty nice car for minimal $$. If anything drains his wallet, it will be the cost of fuel. Dan On Jun 4, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You were lucky to dodge THAT bullet. What a nightmare's list of honey-doos. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yea that's got to be it, sure was not as described to me by the seller, who said there were no warning or check engine lights on when I asked. It sounds like it's probably going to need a wiring harness and both the throttle actuator things replaced, the cost of the parts alone is well over the purchase price of the car. Still sort of wish I had not screwed around and missed it. Oh well. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w140-s-class/2373409-s600-1995-new-owner.html#post12184921 I’m pretty sure this is it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] License Plate Holder
I will look there also. Manfred Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:31:50 -0500 From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com I tried to buy the front bumper bracket to hold a euro license plate. Was told that MB would not send them over here. The dealer's service dept had tried to get one a couple of years ago when one of the mechanics damaged one on a customer's car, even there MB would not send a replacement. What a great company. Manfred MomBUSA has a heavy hand and wears a bow tie. Try fleabay.de or a euro MB forum. Alex may have some pointers for sourrces. You could try Hendrik or John or Davidie in OZ also. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Slag hurts
I hit the HF tool sale and got myself a low end gasless MIG welder to learn on. Wire feed and the cheapo auto darkening mask. I read the instructions to see what this thing can do. Those instructions are big on safety, but not on actually how to run the rig. I went to the hardware store to get a hardi panel so I could have a welding table. There were too many metal or wooden tables for me to use, but the manual was pretty adamant that I have concrete to set things on. So far it works fairly well. I have a few old computer cases that donated their covers for the day I am versed in welding enough to repair the floors in the 300D. Today, I learned that I need a hat to keep the slag from jumping onto the back of my head. I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. I moved up to old brake rotors and was able to get a decent enough bead, but it still looks like crap. Sun was out and after 40 minutes or getting a hang for the machine, I had to head inside. I will be looking for a better set of welding wear so I can keep from setting myself on fire. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao --Change to: License Plate Holder
That's the only reason I can think of where they might refuse to supply a part to a particular area. They're pretty harsh about that one and there is no way to get around it that know of. However, I did like the idea of sourcing the part off of eBay Germany or some other country that uses the same type of license plates. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:16 PM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Let me try and find the number again. As you say it may be in that regional security group because it's to hold the license plate. Manfred Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 20:29:23 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Dealer dookie. They have to make a special request for it, like any non-North American part, which they can do as a list or individual part. My dealer did it several times for me. As a matter of fact, they?re doing it right now. My R129 (1997 SL500) has a very expensive and poorly engineered interior rear view mirror. Along with all the fancy (and now worthless) electronics in it, such as a programmable garage door opener, it has two very strong springs that hold the ball in the socket that the mirror swivels on. These springs are so powerful that over time they stress the plastic cover to the point where the plastic tangs that anchor the ends of the springs break, relieving the spring pressure, allowing the mirror to swing wildly on the ball because there is no longer any resistance being applied to it. There is no kludge for this, the mirror is now totally worthless (as a mirror.) Here?s the kicker: MY price is almost $1,000.00. Yes, that?s MY price, which is wholesale. But - there?s a workaround: The only place they used this stupidly expensive and poorly engineered rear view mirror was - you guessed it - the good old US of A. What did they use in the rest of the world? A similar mirror that was more robust and had none of the electronics in it. My cost: $245.00. I identified the part, went to my dealer, they placed the order and I expect it to be here from Germany early next week. No questions, no problem. Give me the license plate frame part number and I?ll bet I can get one. The only possibility where they would potentially deny it would be if it?s considered a regional safety item, that is, an option that?s in the safety and security groups for a specific country or part of the world. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Nomex underwear is required for the racetrack anyway so you may as well get it now! RB On 05/06/2015 1:28 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I hit the HF tool sale and got myself a low end gasless MIG welder to learn on. Wire feed and the cheapo auto darkening mask. I read the instructions to see what this thing can do. Those instructions are big on safety, but not on actually how to run the rig. I went to the hardware store to get a hardi panel so I could have a welding table. There were too many metal or wooden tables for me to use, but the manual was pretty adamant that I have concrete to set things on. So far it works fairly well. I have a few old computer cases that donated their covers for the day I am versed in welding enough to repair the floors in the 300D. Today, I learned that I need a hat to keep the slag from jumping onto the back of my head. I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. I moved up to old brake rotors and was able to get a decent enough bead, but it still looks like crap. Sun was out and after 40 minutes or getting a hang for the machine, I had to head inside. I will be looking for a better set of welding wear so I can keep from setting myself on fire. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Didn't someone (Curt?) say tht HF wire was no good and we must buy good wire from a regular welding supply dealer? Also, he should be sure pants legs go down over shoe or boot tops. A drop of liquid steel down in the shoe is a common event that can cause wild dancing and serious burns. Don't ask me how I know. Gerry Randy Bennell wrote: Nomex underwear is required for the racetrack anyway so you may as well get it now! RB On 05/06/2015 1:28 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I hit the HF tool sale and got myself a low end gasless MIG welder to learn on. Wire feed and the cheapo auto darkening mask. I read the instructions to see what this thing can do. Those instructions are big on safety, but not on actually how to run the rig. I went to the hardware store to get a hardi panel so I could have a welding table. There were too many metal or wooden tables for me to use, but the manual was pretty adamant that I have concrete to set things on. So far it works fairly well. I have a few old computer cases that donated their covers for the day I am versed in welding enough to repair the floors in the 300D. Today, I learned that I need a hat to keep the slag from jumping onto the back of my head. I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. I moved up to old brake rotors and was able to get a decent enough bead, but it still looks like crap. Sun was out and after 40 minutes or getting a hang for the machine, I had to head inside. I will be looking for a better set of welding wear so I can keep from setting myself on fire. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] This has got to be a scam
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Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Welcome to the cult of vulcan. Put the hat on backwards, getto style to keep sparks from flying down your collar. Wear welders gloves with long cuffs, and wear at least a denium jacket to protect yourself from slag and UV flash. You can get badly sunburned while welding if your skin is exposed. Eyes can be sunburned as well.. doing perm damage if bad enough. If you are getting burn through, your heat setting is to high, and your wire feed speed is to low, and perhaps your pass speed is to slow. Look for the weld puddle, color and size, that is where the actual weld happens. Think of it as pouring liquid metal into the crack and moving the pour along the crack seam. Stay to long with to much heat, and not enouch metal, it pours through the crack. Practice, practice, practice.. use scrap and learn. For sheet metal patch repair.. a lap joint will serve you better than a butt weld. I use 1/4 inch punch holes in the repair piece edge, 1/16th inch clecos to clamp the piece in place at every other hole, then do a spot weld at the 1/4 inch punch hole, pull the clecos one or two at a time and weld the rest of the panel in place. Hammer and dolly to flatten the panel edges into the base metal. Space the spot welds as you see fit. If you feel you need more weld than the spot welds, then weld the seam with the repair panel now held in place by the spots. Makes the work much easier and quicker. Cardboard will be your friend to make patterns for the repair panels. Cut out the bad portions, use round corners, I like to use a baby food can to make corners in a repair panel.. sharp 90 degree corners will always crack out and are hard to hold in place. Hold the cardboard in place from the bottom and mark the hole with a sharpie, then add 1/2 inch at the edge for a lap joint all the way around. Harbor Freight sells a nifty tool that will make a joggle offset for a lapjoint.. it is a double duty tool because one side makes the joggle offset, the other side punches 1/4 inch holes for spot welds.. it runs on air, so you need an air compressor.. a small one will work good enough. Measure twice, cut once, then hammer form the patch to fit the hole repair. When it's just right, the lap joint lip will let you set the panel in place from the inside, and it will lay in place supported by the lap joint overlap. You will likely need to then do some more hammer and dolly work to make the lap lay flat against the original panel. When it's all fitted THEN use the joggle feature around the edge of the patch panel and trial fit again. Once you are happy with that, while it's laying in place, use your sharpie again to layout the spot welds and punch the 1/4 in holes in the patch panel. Lay it back in place and put your sharpie to work again by making a dot in the center of each of those 1/4 in holes to drill holes for the Clecos clamps. THEN.. clamp the New panel in place for welding. Spot welding with a wire feed gun is simple.. aim the wire at the center of the spot, drop hood, pull trigger, make a small circle to pour liquid metal into the hole [visual image here] and back off to let it cool. Move to next hole. What you are doing, is putting a 1/4 inch bolt in each hole, in effect. I like to work the panel repair from side to side so the weld doesn't draw the panel out of position.. tack one side.. then the other.. to work around the whole contact area. Then pull the CLecos and do the same with those holes.. don't worry, the weld will fill the 1/16 cleco hole just fine.. Keep a hammer and dolly handy to flatten the welds while they are still cooling after each weld. it will give a much nicer finish.. ie.. weld, hammer, weld, hammer.. etc etc etc.. When you have had enough fun..you should replenish your lost body fluids with the adult beverage of choice... ;)) Hope this helps, Grant... On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:28 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hit the HF tool sale and got myself a low end gasless MIG welder to learn on. Wire feed and the cheapo auto darkening mask. I read the instructions to see what this thing can do. Those instructions are big on safety, but not on actually how to run the rig. I went to the hardware store to get a hardi panel so I could have a welding table. There were too many metal or wooden tables for me to use, but the manual was pretty adamant that I have concrete to set things on. So far it works fairly well. I have a few old computer cases that donated their covers for the day I am versed in welding enough to repair the floors in the 300D. Today, I learned that I need a hat to keep the slag from jumping onto the back of my head. I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. I moved up to old brake rotors and was able to get a decent enough bead, but it still looks like crap. Sun was out and after 40 minutes or getting a hang for the machine, I had to head inside. I will be looking for a better set
Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao --Change to: License Plate Holder
Let me try and find the number again. As you say it may be in that regional security group because it's to hold the license plate. Manfred Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 20:29:23 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Dealer dookie. They have to make a special request for it, like any non-North American part, which they can do as a list or individual part. My dealer did it several times for me. As a matter of fact, they?re doing it right now. My R129 (1997 SL500) has a very expensive and poorly engineered interior rear view mirror. Along with all the fancy (and now worthless) electronics in it, such as a programmable garage door opener, it has two very strong springs that hold the ball in the socket that the mirror swivels on. These springs are so powerful that over time they stress the plastic cover to the point where the plastic tangs that anchor the ends of the springs break, relieving the spring pressure, allowing the mirror to swing wildly on the ball because there is no longer any resistance being applied to it. There is no kludge for this, the mirror is now totally worthless (as a mirror.) Here?s the kicker: MY price is almost $1,000.00. Yes, that?s MY price, which is wholesale. But - there?s a workaround: The only place they used this stupidly expensive and poorly engineered rear view mirror was - you guessed it - the good old US of A. What did they use in the rest of the world? A similar mirror that was more robust and had none of the electronics in it. My cost: $245.00. I identified the part, went to my dealer, they placed the order and I expect it to be here from Germany early next week. No questions, no problem. Give me the license plate frame part number and I?ll bet I can get one. The only possibility where they would potentially deny it would be if it?s considered a regional safety item, that is, an option that?s in the safety and security groups for a specific country or part of the world. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] S430/W220 Fleece Filter - ???
OK, so this is the first one of these fleece filters I’ve ever used. I see the little graphic with the filter about how it’s supposed to be positioned on the long plastic tube, but what in the heck are all the “O” rings for that come with it?? I’m sure t will make sense when I pull the old one out, but I want to be sure…. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I am headed to the Goodwill outlet store to see what non-fashionable items I can repurpose to welding wear. The clothing sells by the pound. I found all manner of good stuff there for hunting and should come across busted leathers or other fire resistant items. I picked up some really nice welding gloves a few months ago. Long neck and smooth fingers. Nomex interior. The auto dark mask I got does not provide coverage between the front of the skull and the face shield. Bright sunshine glowing off my forehead sort of defeats the ability to see the bead being formed. Maybe I can get a clorox bottle riveted to the top clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: My brother-in-law had the hot slag in the boot issue one time. Just putting the pantleg over the boot does not prevent the problem if the slag burns through the pantleg which is what happened with him. Either lace up the top of the boot so it cannot get into the boot or else loosen the boot so that you can easily kick it off. He was welding an exhaust under a car on a hoist and he is quite tall so he was bent a bit at the knees. The slag dropped onto his leg, burned a hole through his pants and then fell into his boot top. He of course, shook his let and the slag went deeper into his boot and burned his foot before he could get his boot off. He was off work for several days. He learned a good lesson as that must be close to 20 years ago and he has not had it happen since that I know of. RB On 05/06/2015 2:10 PM, Gerry Archer via Mercedes wrote: Didn't someone (Curt?) say tht HF wire was no good and we must buy good wire from a regular welding supply dealer? Also, he should be sure pants legs go down over shoe or boot tops. A drop of liquid steel down in the shoe is a common event that can cause wild dancing and serious burns. Don't ask me how I know. Gerry Randy Bennell wrote: Nomex underwear is required for the racetrack anyway so you may as well get it now! RB On 05/06/2015 1:28 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I hit the HF tool sale and got myself a low end gasless MIG welder to learn on. Wire feed and the cheapo auto darkening mask. I read the instructions to see what this thing can do. Those instructions are big on safety, but not on actually how to run the rig. I went to the hardware store to get a hardi panel so I could have a welding table. There were too many metal or wooden tables for me to use, but the manual was pretty adamant that I have concrete to set things on. So far it works fairly well. I have a few old computer cases that donated their covers for the day I am versed in welding enough to repair the floors in the 300D. Today, I learned that I need a hat to keep the slag from jumping onto the back of my head. I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. I moved up to old brake rotors and was able to get a decent enough bead, but it still looks like crap. Sun was out and after 40 minutes or getting a hang for the machine, I had to head inside. I will be looking for a better set of welding wear so I can keep from setting myself on fire. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
My brother-in-law had the hot slag in the boot issue one time. Just putting the pantleg over the boot does not prevent the problem if the slag burns through the pantleg which is what happened with him. Either lace up the top of the boot so it cannot get into the boot or else loosen the boot so that you can easily kick it off. He was welding an exhaust under a car on a hoist and he is quite tall so he was bent a bit at the knees. The slag dropped onto his leg, burned a hole through his pants and then fell into his boot top. He of course, shook his let and the slag went deeper into his boot and burned his foot before he could get his boot off. He was off work for several days. He learned a good lesson as that must be close to 20 years ago and he has not had it happen since that I know of. RB On 05/06/2015 2:10 PM, Gerry Archer via Mercedes wrote: Didn't someone (Curt?) say tht HF wire was no good and we must buy good wire from a regular welding supply dealer? Also, he should be sure pants legs go down over shoe or boot tops. A drop of liquid steel down in the shoe is a common event that can cause wild dancing and serious burns. Don't ask me how I know. Gerry Randy Bennell wrote: Nomex underwear is required for the racetrack anyway so you may as well get it now! RB On 05/06/2015 1:28 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I hit the HF tool sale and got myself a low end gasless MIG welder to learn on. Wire feed and the cheapo auto darkening mask. I read the instructions to see what this thing can do. Those instructions are big on safety, but not on actually how to run the rig. I went to the hardware store to get a hardi panel so I could have a welding table. There were too many metal or wooden tables for me to use, but the manual was pretty adamant that I have concrete to set things on. So far it works fairly well. I have a few old computer cases that donated their covers for the day I am versed in welding enough to repair the floors in the 300D. Today, I learned that I need a hat to keep the slag from jumping onto the back of my head. I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. I moved up to old brake rotors and was able to get a decent enough bead, but it still looks like crap. Sun was out and after 40 minutes or getting a hang for the machine, I had to head inside. I will be looking for a better set of welding wear so I can keep from setting myself on fire. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Mystery
Dan writes: see if I can find the plan for a DIY smoke tester - this is something that is a big help and could use occasionally. You are working on a Mercedes, correct? I thought the smoke detector was used exclusively on Lucas electrical parts. Although, it is usually quite obvious where the smoke is leaking on those... http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm Scroll to the bottom of this one... http://gtr1000.yuku.com/topic/4957 Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Microsoft Mysteries
Tried to sign into Microsoft. It rejected my address because it contained the symbol @ . How an address can written without using @ (at) is a mystery. It's enough to drive a person to Linux. (end of rant) Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S430/W220 Fleece Filter - ???
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: OK, so this is the first one of these fleece filters I’ve ever used. I see the little graphic with the filter about how it’s supposed to be positioned on the long plastic tube, but what in the heck are all the “O” rings for that come with it?? I’m sure t will make sense when I pull the old one out, but I want to be sure…. I'm sure it's just like the V6 version, the lid has a giant tapered plastic spike on it, like a plastic tent stake. I forget how many o-rings are on that spike, but you'll use most if not all that come with the filter. The biggest one goes on the cap to keep the oil inside the engine, one or two littlest ones seal the bottom of the spike like the o-ring on a OM617 filter rod, the mid sized ones go more or less where the filter ends are. Make note where the old filter is on the spike, lube up the new one and make sure it's shoved in as much as the old one was. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Didn't someone (Curt?) say tht HF wire was no good and we must buy good wire from a regular welding supply dealer? Also, he should be sure pants legs go down over shoe or boot tops. A drop of liquid steel down in the shoe is a common event that can cause wild dancing and serious burns. Don't ask me how I know. Gerry Good point, but my jeans and bibs are long enough to touch the LEATHER shoe/boot. You don't want plastic shoes either... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
The only time welders wear pants with a cuff is the first day on the job. Any questions? haha.. Wire feed welders should not make a lot of slag if set correctly. If it is a flux core wire welder, it will make slag, if it is a gas envelope welder, hardly any sparks.. much nicer welds also. Worth the extra money in my opinion. Key element is getting the wire speed and heat setting correct for the thickness of metal you are welding.. play with them until you can lay down a nice even weld with good penetration but no burn through. Speed of the weld pass is the human factor that has to come with practice. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My brother-in-law had the hot slag in the boot issue one time. Just putting the pantleg over the boot does not prevent the problem if the slag burns through the pantleg which is what happened with him. Either lace up the top of the boot so it cannot get into the boot or else loosen the boot so that you can easily kick it off. He was welding an exhaust under a car on a hoist and he is quite tall so he was bent a bit at the knees. The slag dropped onto his leg, burned a hole through his pants and then fell into his boot top. He of course, shook his let and the slag went deeper into his boot and burned his foot before he could get his boot off. He was off work for several days. He learned a good lesson as that must be close to 20 years ago and he has not had it happen since that I know of. RB On 05/06/2015 2:10 PM, Gerry Archer via Mercedes wrote: Didn't someone (Curt?) say tht HF wire was no good and we must buy good wire from a regular welding supply dealer? Also, he should be sure pants legs go down over shoe or boot tops. A drop of liquid steel down in the shoe is a common event that can cause wild dancing and serious burns. Don't ask me how I know. Gerry Randy Bennell wrote: Nomex underwear is required for the racetrack anyway so you may as well get it now! RB On 05/06/2015 1:28 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I hit the HF tool sale and got myself a low end gasless MIG welder to learn on. Wire feed and the cheapo auto darkening mask. I read the instructions to see what this thing can do. Those instructions are big on safety, but not on actually how to run the rig. I went to the hardware store to get a hardi panel so I could have a welding table. There were too many metal or wooden tables for me to use, but the manual was pretty adamant that I have concrete to set things on. So far it works fairly well. I have a few old computer cases that donated their covers for the day I am versed in welding enough to repair the floors in the 300D. Today, I learned that I need a hat to keep the slag from jumping onto the back of my head. I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. I moved up to old brake rotors and was able to get a decent enough bead, but it still looks like crap. Sun was out and after 40 minutes or getting a hang for the machine, I had to head inside. I will be looking for a better set of welding wear so I can keep from setting myself on fire. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I will be looking for a better set of welding wear so I can keep from setting myself on fire. clay Cotton. No synthetics. I often weld in a tshirt and jeans. Nothing special. A long sleeve Wrangler cotton denim shirt is good too, if it is cool enough. mine has no holes in it, but I don't weld much anymore. I sold my John Deere stick welder on fleaby because i figured out I'll never have enough money to collect John Deeres. got a little century FCAW welder to weld sheet metal. I never wear a cap unless I am trying to weld overhead, and I try to avoid that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I am going to play with this thing all next week. I figured the HF garbage flux core welder would be less expensive than a class with 30 other monkeys. If I get a really good handle on welding, then I would find a real welder at a pawn shop. Doing the floor pan repairs on the HF unit will probably kill it. Making the roll cage would require something by Lincoln. clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:32 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: The only time welders wear pants with a cuff is the first day on the job. Any questions? haha.. Wire feed welders should not make a lot of slag if set correctly. If it is a flux core wire welder, it will make slag, if it is a gas envelope welder, hardly any sparks.. much nicer welds also. Worth the extra money in my opinion. Key element is getting the wire speed and heat setting correct for the thickness of metal you are welding.. play with them until you can lay down a nice even weld with good penetration but no burn through. Speed of the weld pass is the human factor that has to come with practice. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My brother-in-law had the hot slag in the boot issue one time. Just putting the pantleg over the boot does not prevent the problem if the slag burns through the pantleg which is what happened with him. Either lace up the top of the boot so it cannot get into the boot or else loosen the boot so that you can easily kick it off. He was welding an exhaust under a car on a hoist and he is quite tall so he was bent a bit at the knees. The slag dropped onto his leg, burned a hole through his pants and then fell into his boot top. He of course, shook his let and the slag went deeper into his boot and burned his foot before he could get his boot off. He was off work for several days. He learned a good lesson as that must be close to 20 years ago and he has not had it happen since that I know of. RB On 05/06/2015 2:10 PM, Gerry Archer via Mercedes wrote: Didn't someone (Curt?) say tht HF wire was no good and we must buy good wire from a regular welding supply dealer? Also, he should be sure pants legs go down over shoe or boot tops. A drop of liquid steel down in the shoe is a common event that can cause wild dancing and serious burns. Don't ask me how I know. Gerry Randy Bennell wrote: Nomex underwear is required for the racetrack anyway so you may as well get it now! RB On 05/06/2015 1:28 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I hit the HF tool sale and got myself a low end gasless MIG welder to learn on. Wire feed and the cheapo auto darkening mask. I read the instructions to see what this thing can do. Those instructions are big on safety, but not on actually how to run the rig. I went to the hardware store to get a hardi panel so I could have a welding table. There were too many metal or wooden tables for me to use, but the manual was pretty adamant that I have concrete to set things on. So far it works fairly well. I have a few old computer cases that donated their covers for the day I am versed in welding enough to repair the floors in the 300D. Today, I learned that I need a hat to keep the slag from jumping onto the back of my head. I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. I moved up to old brake rotors and was able to get a decent enough bead, but it still looks like crap. Sun was out and after 40 minutes or getting a hang for the machine, I had to head inside. I will be looking for a better set of welding wear so I can keep from setting myself on fire. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] S500 Mystery
Got the car back from the trusted indie shop. They spent two hours of diagnostic time on it and found that the MAF is probably bad and there are a number of vacuum leaks in all of the lines that run across the top of the engine and probably the boot at the bottom of the MAF. This is good news, as we know the wiring harness is good and they confirmed that. I just happen to have a spare MAF that someone gave me for free for the S420, and even better, it’s the SAME part on the S500. Woo-hoo!! The car comes home tonight, after which I’ll survey the vacuum lines and elbows that have to be replaced and make a parts list for my dealer parts guy on Monday. I’ll have him VOR (overnight) the parts so we have them on Tuesday and Tuesday night we’ll reassemble everything and get the boy back in his beloved car. I knew the vacuum fittings on the top of the engine were getting hard and brittle as they’re known to do, but I didn’t think any of them were leaking yet. I’m going to dig around on the internet and see if I can find the plan for a DIY smoke tester - this is something that is a big help and could use occasionally. More as I know it…. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question
I got myself into a project that I should have walked away from but since I am into it, I am not giving it up. I did offer it up for sale or trade but no one came looking so maybe they were smarter than me. Time will tell. I bought, for little money, an antique woodworking multi-machine. It had a 12 table saw intending mostly for ripping, an 8 jointer and a 22 band saw in one machine. It is old enough to be flat belt so pretty old. I decided that the band saw was the only desirable part so I dismantled it to the point where I have only the band saw left on the frame. I then wanted to cut the frame down to a smaller size. If my memory is reasonably accurate, the frame will end up about 24 square. The frame has 2 cast end frames and pipes that join the two ends. The pipes go through holes in the end frames. They are held in place by set screws in the end frames and by lead melted in to the frame to fill any voids around the pipe. I melted the lead out of the holes on the one frame with a propane torch so that I could remove the one end frame. Then cut the pipes down by a foot or more to make a more compact frame unit. There are 4 pipes through the end frame sides and 2 angle iron pieces on the top. My issue now, is that I want to refill the voids with melted lead. I tipped the unit on end so that the parts I wanted to melt into were down. I clamped a piece of plywood on the end of the one spot and melted solder into the gap between the pipe and the frame. Not a large gap. Probably 1/8th at the widest. Unfortunately, it did not work out well. I need some means of plugging the end better. The plywood did not fit tight to the pipe end - only to the frame end. The solder went into the end of the pipe and when it had burned the plywood enough to make a hole, flowed out. I ended up with a bit of a lead plug that fell out of the end of the pipe when I removed the plywood. I can use a piece of steel in place of the plywood so that it will not burn through but I need some means of plugging the end of the pipe so that the solder will just fill the void around the pipe. Any great ideas? Muffler cement?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question
Clay will work. It's what the old plumbers used to use back in the day. You pack the joint from one end with clay, run lead with tin content to make it stick to the cast steel, then chip the clay out and run the back side with lead with tin. you then have a complete joint. Take care using to much heat, the old guys used a blow torch to do the work and temps were likely lower than modern propane torches. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got myself into a project that I should have walked away from but since I am into it, I am not giving it up. I did offer it up for sale or trade but no one came looking so maybe they were smarter than me. Time will tell. I bought, for little money, an antique woodworking multi-machine. It had a 12 table saw intending mostly for ripping, an 8 jointer and a 22 band saw in one machine. It is old enough to be flat belt so pretty old. I decided that the band saw was the only desirable part so I dismantled it to the point where I have only the band saw left on the frame. I then wanted to cut the frame down to a smaller size. If my memory is reasonably accurate, the frame will end up about 24 square. The frame has 2 cast end frames and pipes that join the two ends. The pipes go through holes in the end frames. They are held in place by set screws in the end frames and by lead melted in to the frame to fill any voids around the pipe. I melted the lead out of the holes on the one frame with a propane torch so that I could remove the one end frame. Then cut the pipes down by a foot or more to make a more compact frame unit. There are 4 pipes through the end frame sides and 2 angle iron pieces on the top. My issue now, is that I want to refill the voids with melted lead. I tipped the unit on end so that the parts I wanted to melt into were down. I clamped a piece of plywood on the end of the one spot and melted solder into the gap between the pipe and the frame. Not a large gap. Probably 1/8th at the widest. Unfortunately, it did not work out well. I need some means of plugging the end better. The plywood did not fit tight to the pipe end - only to the frame end. The solder went into the end of the pipe and when it had burned the plywood enough to make a hole, flowed out. I ended up with a bit of a lead plug that fell out of the end of the pipe when I removed the plywood. I can use a piece of steel in place of the plywood so that it will not burn through but I need some means of plugging the end of the pipe so that the solder will just fill the void around the pipe. Any great ideas? Muffler cement?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Mystery
Titanium tetrachloride makes smoke as it evaporates. We used it in the wind tunnels to visualize flow. We'd dip a swab into some and stick it in the airflow and as it evaporated it made white smoke, easily seen. It lasted a while. Not sure where you get it now, I guess the webs would be your friend. --R On 6/5/15 5:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Got the car back from the trusted indie shop. They spent two hours of diagnostic time on it and found that the MAF is probably bad and there are a number of vacuum leaks in all of the lines that run across the top of the engine and probably the boot at the bottom of the MAF. This is good news, as we know the wiring harness is good and they confirmed that. I just happen to have a spare MAF that someone gave me for free for the S420, and even better, it’s the SAME part on the S500. Woo-hoo!! The car comes home tonight, after which I’ll survey the vacuum lines and elbows that have to be replaced and make a parts list for my dealer parts guy on Monday. I’ll have him VOR (overnight) the parts so we have them on Tuesday and Tuesday night we’ll reassemble everything and get the boy back in his beloved car. I knew the vacuum fittings on the top of the engine were getting hard and brittle as they’re known to do, but I didn’t think any of them were leaking yet. I’m going to dig around on the internet and see if I can find the plan for a DIY smoke tester - this is something that is a big help and could use occasionally. More as I know it…. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!
Just find the keys! http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Mystery/vacuum leaks
My favorite indie uses a water hose to find vacuum leaks. Simple. You spray water around until the engine runs faster. sealing the leak with water makes the mixture richer, so the engine runs faster. I could not believe it. I did not want to hose water around the coil , distributor etc, but it works. He found lots of M116 leaks after I fixed the easy ones first with his method. I knew the vacuum fittings on the top of the engine were getting hard and brittle as they're known to do, but I didn't think any of them were leaking yet. I'm going to dig around on the internet and see if I can find the plan for a DIY smoke tester - this is something that is a big help and could use occasionally. More as I know it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Mysteries
Tried to sign into Microsoft. It rejected my address because it contained the symbol @ . How an address can written without using @ (at) is a mystery. It's enough to drive a person to Linux. (end of rant) Gerry I had a linux VM webserver/email server that insisted you replace @ with a dash. It was weird. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question
Jb weld? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got myself into a project that I should have walked away from but since I am into it, I am not giving it up. I did offer it up for sale or trade but no one came looking so maybe they were smarter than me. Time will tell. I bought, for little money, an antique woodworking multi-machine. It had a 12 table saw intending mostly for ripping, an 8 jointer and a 22 band saw in one machine. It is old enough to be flat belt so pretty old. I decided that the band saw was the only desirable part so I dismantled it to the point where I have only the band saw left on the frame. I then wanted to cut the frame down to a smaller size. If my memory is reasonably accurate, the frame will end up about 24 square. The frame has 2 cast end frames and pipes that join the two ends. The pipes go through holes in the end frames. They are held in place by set screws in the end frames and by lead melted in to the frame to fill any voids around the pipe. I melted the lead out of the holes on the one frame with a propane torch so that I could remove the one end frame. Then cut the pipes down by a foot or more to make a more compact frame unit. There are 4 pipes through the end frame sides and 2 angle iron pieces on the top. My issue now, is that I want to refill the voids with melted lead. I tipped the unit on end so that the parts I wanted to melt into were down. I clamped a piece of plywood on the end of the one spot and melted solder into the gap between the pipe and the frame. Not a large gap. Probably 1/8th at the widest. Unfortunately, it did not work out well. I need some means of plugging the end better. The plywood did not fit tight to the pipe end - only to the frame end. The solder went into the end of the pipe and when it had burned the plywood enough to make a hole, flowed out. I ended up with a bit of a lead plug that fell out of the end of the pipe when I removed the plywood. I can use a piece of steel in place of the plywood so that it will not burn through but I need some means of plugging the end of the pipe so that the solder will just fill the void around the pipe. Any great ideas? Muffler cement?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Mystery
I thought starter fluid was used to find leaks in gasoline car vacuum systems? Spray a little in a spot, see if idle speed picks up, spray another spot... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This has got to be a scam
What's the blue book value? Maybe money laundering?? On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 2003 Mercedes-Benz E320 http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5050457304.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S430/W220 Fleece Filter - ???
They are to replace the 2 o rings that are on the stem the filter sits on. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OK, so this is the first one of these fleece filters I’ve ever used. I see the little graphic with the filter about how it’s supposed to be positioned on the long plastic tube, but what in the heck are all the “O” rings for that come with it?? I’m sure t will make sense when I pull the old one out, but I want to be sure…. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] #17 head, need it?
I would not mind having it Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There's a '91 SDL at the local knackers, #17 head. I'm very tempted to pull it. Anyone have a need or interest? No obvious reason why the car is there. Some knuckle head removed the oil fill cap, so the camshaft is rusted. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S430/W220 Fleece Filter - ???
He’s dead, Jim. But I believe his cat is still alive. Probably driving his cars, too: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/toonces-the-cat/n9792 Dan On Jun 5, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OK, so this is the first one of these fleece filters I've ever used. I see the little graphic with the filter about how it's supposed to be positioned on the long plastic tube, but what in the heck are all the O rings for that come with it?? I'm sure t will make sense when I pull the old one out, but I want to be sure. Dan W'ere's Woger w'en we need im? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!
I would rather jump on this: http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060315514.html This is the W140 I was going to look at but didn’t. There’s got to be something fishy going on here, as if the car was as described it should have sold a long time ago. If he gets down to $2500 by the end of next week I’ll buy it. Dan On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You should jump on that, key should be easy to get Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just find the keys! http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S430/W220 Fleece Filter - ???
OK, so this is the first one of these fleece filters I've ever used. I see the little graphic with the filter about how it's supposed to be positioned on the long plastic tube, but what in the heck are all the O rings for that come with it?? I'm sure t will make sense when I pull the old one out, but I want to be sure. Dan W'ere's Woger w'en we need im? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Mysteries
Interesting. I'll try that with Microsoft. Gerry Curly McLain wrote: Tried to sign into Microsoft. It rejected my address because it contained the symbol @ . How an address can written without using @ (at) is a mystery. It's enough to drive a person to Linux. (end of rant) Gerry I had a linux VM webserver/email server that insisted you replace @ with a dash. It was weird. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I'm not a welder, but I understand that welding galvanised steel produces fumes that can make you sick? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S430/W220 Fleece Filter - ???
Thanks! Never having used one of these before, I figured I would ask in case the little card with the graphics they pack with it didn’t make sense. It definitely makes a point of identifying how far up the spike the filter should go. I did notice that when I looked at it. Dan On Jun 5, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: OK, so this is the first one of these fleece filters I’ve ever used. I see the little graphic with the filter about how it’s supposed to be positioned on the long plastic tube, but what in the heck are all the “O” rings for that come with it?? I’m sure t will make sense when I pull the old one out, but I want to be sure…. I'm sure it's just like the V6 version, the lid has a giant tapered plastic spike on it, like a plastic tent stake. I forget how many o-rings are on that spike, but you'll use most if not all that come with the filter. The biggest one goes on the cap to keep the oil inside the engine, one or two littlest ones seal the bottom of the spike like the o-ring on a OM617 filter rod, the mid sized ones go more or less where the filter ends are. Make note where the old filter is on the spike, lube up the new one and make sure it's shoved in as much as the old one was. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] #17 head, need it?
Me too, may just keep it as a spare, but maybe somebody here really needs one? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 5, 2015 7:36:05 PM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would not mind having it Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There's a '91 SDL at the local knackers, #17 head. I'm very tempted to pull it. Anyone have a need or interest? No obvious reason why the car is there. Some knuckle head removed the oil fill cap, so the camshaft is rusted. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] #17 head, need it?
There's a '91 SDL at the local knackers, #17 head. I'm very tempted to pull it. Anyone have a need or interest? No obvious reason why the car is there. Some knuckle head removed the oil fill cap, so the camshaft is rusted. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
PC boxes are most likely clad with galvanize material. Galvanizing requires the base metal be coated with Zinc compounds which can and WILL contaminate your weld, thus welds that look like bird droppings. The job of rod flux is to carry away the contaminates in the weld puddle, but the flux core wire from China doesn't have enough volume of flux to combat zinc contamination of the weld puddle.. in fact.. if you were using gas, you would have to crank up the flow rate to over come it. The fact that you are having splatter and slag issues should have keyed me to tell you the zinc boiling off is likely the cause. I overlooked that.. my apology. Try a welding a piece of the same material you have dressed with a grinding wheel to clean steel.. see if it doesn't give you a much better weld. I will lay bets it does. Go to your local steel supplier and pick up some end cut scraps for practice, in MILD STEEL only.. then run a few passes.. look at the difference.. you should see immediate good results.. even with crappy Chinese flux wire from Harbor Fright. A good part of welding is knowing the metalurgy of the metal you are joining.. and how it affects the weld. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Yes. Always grind off the galvanized area to clean metal before welding. If one really wants a clean weld, the area to be welded should be free from dirt, grease, paint and rust including the back side of the metal. Some people go as far as to wipe clean with denatured alcohol. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm not a welder, but I understand that welding galvanised steel produces fumes that can make you sick? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Not just sick.. but dead. .. welding galvanized metal in an enclosed space will kill you. The antidote, however is to drink milk... being lactose intollerent isn't going to help you there.. ha.. Remove the victim to fresh air quickly and vent the area of toxic gases. Of course. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm not a welder, but I understand that welding galvanised steel produces fumes that can make you sick? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S430/W220 Fleece Filter - ???
There are 2 black lines on the filter, you have to make sure it's inserted to where the 1st line is covered Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: OK, so this is the first one of these fleece filters I’ve ever used. I see the little graphic with the filter about how it’s supposed to be positioned on the long plastic tube, but what in the heck are all the “O” rings for that come with it?? I’m sure t will make sense when I pull the old one out, but I want to be sure…. I'm sure it's just like the V6 version, the lid has a giant tapered plastic spike on it, like a plastic tent stake. I forget how many o-rings are on that spike, but you'll use most if not all that come with the filter. The biggest one goes on the cap to keep the oil inside the engine, one or two littlest ones seal the bottom of the spike like the o-ring on a OM617 filter rod, the mid sized ones go more or less where the filter ends are. Make note where the old filter is on the spike, lube up the new one and make sure it's shoved in as much as the old one was. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!
You should jump on that, key should be easy to get Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just find the keys! http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
I would imagine the HF unit is basically a Chinese copy of my Lincoln HandyMig. Mine has provision for shielding gas but I've never set it up, the bottle would be decidedly un-handy, I'd need a cart for the thing, blah blah.I think I paid $250 or so for mine and its been worth the money. I burn through about 5# of wire a year. I've also been lucky to have some time on multi-thousand dollar Miller machines with shielding gas and while those are fantastic I'm not dissatisfied with my machine.The trick is that I tend to end up using much more wire speed than I think I need and counter-intuitively sheet metal usually requires more wire speed. When welding heavier stuff I end up using the same wire speed or a little less, I turn the heat up and just move slower which gives the penetration needed. This was hard for me to learn after I'd taught myself how to do sheet metal. Theres definitely an art to it and since I haven't welded in 3 or 4 months I know the next time I try it'll take me an hour or so to get the feel back. I find for me moving the torch in little circles is the key to preventing burn through. I generally push the puddle although I've had some success dragging it, mostly when welding upside down like on a car floor. Remember that the coating on the wire will absorb water. A new spool of wire is so nice which is why I only buy 5# at a time. My machine will handle a 20# spool but it'd be gross by the time I got to the end. I *think* you could dry it back out if you put it in a box with an incandescent bulb for a couple hours but I've yet to try it... After I burned (and scarred) the inside of my elbow last fall Angie bought me a welding shirt that has leather arms. Its not the height of fashion buts nice to have that safety. -Curt From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts Unless you use shielding gas you will be unhappy with your results. I promise! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The wire is garbage, but it came free with the welder. May as well burn through it. setting up feed speed is hit and miss for now. It does not want to feed as slowly as the graph inside says I need it. There are two amperage speeds. Lots and not that much. I could not get much speed or heat to get a good bead clay On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: I could not get a decent bead using the PC carcasses and was getting a bunch of blow through. Thin sheet metal and gasless wirefeed is pretty tough. Set the wire feed and amperage low. And get some good wire. The HF wire is junk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts
Grant, I agree that theres a coating there, I'm not sure its always galvanizing though. I suspect its similar though and reacts similarly. I've gotten in the habit of cleaning 1/4 around the sheet metal I'm using when I weld. I like leaving most of the stuff on, it doesn't burn off too bad other than right where I'm welding and it doesn't seem to rust. My next step is to buy a bigger grinder. I'm going to get a 5 with the thinner grip. I don't know what its called other than its not the paddle grip my 4 1/2 Makita has, that one makes my hands tired quick. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slag hurts PC boxes are most likely clad with galvanize material. Galvanizing requires the base metal be coated with Zinc compounds which can and WILL contaminate your weld, thus welds that look like bird droppings. The job of rod flux is to carry away the contaminates in the weld puddle, but the flux core wire from China doesn't have enough volume of flux to combat zinc contamination of the weld puddle.. in fact.. if you were using gas, you would have to crank up the flow rate to over come it. The fact that you are having splatter and slag issues should have keyed me to tell you the zinc boiling off is likely the cause. I overlooked that.. my apology. Try a welding a piece of the same material you have dressed with a grinding wheel to clean steel.. see if it doesn't give you a much better weld. I will lay bets it does. Go to your local steel supplier and pick up some end cut scraps for practice, in MILD STEEL only.. then run a few passes.. look at the difference.. you should see immediate good results.. even with crappy Chinese flux wire from Harbor Fright. A good part of welding is knowing the metalurgy of the metal you are joining.. and how it affects the weld. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] tractor
I think this tractor is one of the best things since sliced bread. Today at old okie acres I used it to load up a HUGE tree that blew down that I cut up. Later at home I used it to move 124 around. While the FEL wont lift the front of a 124 off the ground, it will lift it up enough then I can push it to where I want. I managed to screw up the already broken front bumper air dam a little more with the front bucket. So I am now thinking about buying some bucket forks which I could use to load engines that I am fixing to start moving, and when moving cars can get the forks up under front of the car and lift. I am looking at these clamp on type like this which are cheap: http://www.amazon.com/Pallet-bucket-loaders-tractors-steers/dp/B002ITHNWY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1433555093sr=8-4keywords=bucket+forks But thinking I should pony up more money and get this setup, which the bucket detaches from the FEL and you attach this, looks like it would work a lot better http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Pallet-Attachment-Deere-Loaders/dp/B00A1D103W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1433555181sr=8-13keywords=bucket+forks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question
JB Weld was my thought as well - but use it instead of the lead, not to seal the end before pouring lead. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jb weld? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
But thinking I should pony up more money and get this setup, which the bucket detaches from the FEL and you attach this, looks like it would work a lot better http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Pallet-Attachment-Deere-Loaders/dp/B00A1D103W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1433555181sr=8-13keywords=bucket+forks You got that right! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
Which Kioti do you have? I'm leaning toward the CK27. I'm taking the advice to go oversized and not get the 20. I don't think we'll do a backhoe but you never know. I like that there's a dealer near camp and one near my house. I'm kind of thinking I'd keep it at my place for the summer. Probably won't get more than 150 hours a year either way... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:34 PM Subject:Re: [MBZ] tractor If you use it frequently, you won't regret getting a real pallet fork with a quick-attach interface. My loader has the skid-steer quick attach interface but I think John Deere has their own version of something similar. The quick-attach makes changing buckets, forks, etc. very fast and easy. By the way, there is an aftermarket grease gun coupler called LocknLube, which I highly recommend (available from Amazon and others). It's overpriced ($30) but worth it. All the grease goes into the fitting. On my Kioti, the loader gets greased every 10 hours, the mower every 20, and everything else every 50 hours; so a good coupler saves a little grease and a lot of mess. -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 10:47 PM I'm thinking I'm going to get that more expensive style I sent that replaces the bucket. I noticed they have a bunch of different versions of that depending on what you want doz Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The clamp-on forks are useful but with two drawbacks: (1) you can't see what you are doing when the bucket blocks your view and (2) you will bend the bucket if you overload them (the loader is stronger than the lip of the bucket). Still they are quite useful for the money. I got a set just to unload palletized deliveries to my farm. The driver just pulls off the road, moves the pallet to the back of the truck with his pallet jack, and I slip the forks under he pallet to unload. You may want back ballast (like a mower or box blade) to lift heavier stuff with the loader. For several reasons, you don't want the back wheels to leave the ground. While visiting my brother-in-law's farm in Virginia, he introduced me to a new term: tractor envy. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] tractor I think this tractor is one of the best things since sliced bread. Today at old okie acres I used it to load up a HUGE tree that blew down that I cut up. Later at home I used it to move 124 around. While the FEL wont lift the front of a 124 off the ground, it will lift it up enough then I can push it to where I want. I managed to screw up the already broken front bumper air dam a little more with the front bucket. So I am now thinking about buying some bucket forks which I could use to load engines that I am fixing to start moving, and when moving cars can get the forks up under front of the car and lift. I am looking at these clamp on type like this which are cheap: http://www.amazon.com/Pallet-bucket-loaders-tractors- steers/dp/B002ITHNWY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1433555093sr=8- 4keywords=bucket+forks But thinking I should pony up more money and get this setup, which the bucket detaches from the FEL and you attach this, looks like it would work a lot better http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Pallet-Attachment-Deere- Loaders/dp/B00A1D103W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1433555181sr=8- 13keywords=bucket+forks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] tractor
I'm thinking I'm going to get that more expensive style I sent that replaces the bucket. I noticed they have a bunch of different versions of that depending on what you want doz Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The clamp-on forks are useful but with two drawbacks: (1) you can't see what you are doing when the bucket blocks your view and (2) you will bend the bucket if you overload them (the loader is stronger than the lip of the bucket). Still they are quite useful for the money. I got a set just to unload palletized deliveries to my farm. The driver just pulls off the road, moves the pallet to the back of the truck with his pallet jack, and I slip the forks under he pallet to unload. You may want back ballast (like a mower or box blade) to lift heavier stuff with the loader. For several reasons, you don't want the back wheels to leave the ground. While visiting my brother-in-law's farm in Virginia, he introduced me to a new term: tractor envy. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] tractor I think this tractor is one of the best things since sliced bread. Today at old okie acres I used it to load up a HUGE tree that blew down that I cut up. Later at home I used it to move 124 around. While the FEL wont lift the front of a 124 off the ground, it will lift it up enough then I can push it to where I want. I managed to screw up the already broken front bumper air dam a little more with the front bucket. So I am now thinking about buying some bucket forks which I could use to load engines that I am fixing to start moving, and when moving cars can get the forks up under front of the car and lift. I am looking at these clamp on type like this which are cheap: http://www.amazon.com/Pallet-bucket-loaders-tractors- steers/dp/B002ITHNWY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1433555093sr=8- 4keywords=bucket+forks But thinking I should pony up more money and get this setup, which the bucket detaches from the FEL and you attach this, looks like it would work a lot better http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Pallet-Attachment-Deere- Loaders/dp/B00A1D103W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1433555181sr=8- 13keywords=bucket+forks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
My hangar floor is painted concrete. I don't know what kind of paint, nor how old it is, but I do know that the Chem Tool carb cleaner will dissolve it. It is also VERY slippery when wet. I ended up buying a pair of shoes meant for working on wet slippery surfaces from New Balance - they make as much difference as studded snow tires vs. worn out old tires on ice/snow. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No known problems due to the coating, other than it's a bit slick when wet. Mitch. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
If you use it frequently, you won't regret getting a real pallet fork with a quick-attach interface. My loader has the skid-steer quick attach interface but I think John Deere has their own version of something similar. The quick-attach makes changing buckets, forks, etc. very fast and easy. By the way, there is an aftermarket grease gun coupler called LocknLube, which I highly recommend (available from Amazon and others). It's overpriced ($30) but worth it. All the grease goes into the fitting. On my Kioti, the loader gets greased every 10 hours, the mower every 20, and everything else every 50 hours; so a good coupler saves a little grease and a lot of mess. -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 10:47 PM I'm thinking I'm going to get that more expensive style I sent that replaces the bucket. I noticed they have a bunch of different versions of that depending on what you want doz Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The clamp-on forks are useful but with two drawbacks: (1) you can't see what you are doing when the bucket blocks your view and (2) you will bend the bucket if you overload them (the loader is stronger than the lip of the bucket). Still they are quite useful for the money. I got a set just to unload palletized deliveries to my farm. The driver just pulls off the road, moves the pallet to the back of the truck with his pallet jack, and I slip the forks under he pallet to unload. You may want back ballast (like a mower or box blade) to lift heavier stuff with the loader. For several reasons, you don't want the back wheels to leave the ground. While visiting my brother-in-law's farm in Virginia, he introduced me to a new term: tractor envy. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] tractor I think this tractor is one of the best things since sliced bread. Today at old okie acres I used it to load up a HUGE tree that blew down that I cut up. Later at home I used it to move 124 around. While the FEL wont lift the front of a 124 off the ground, it will lift it up enough then I can push it to where I want. I managed to screw up the already broken front bumper air dam a little more with the front bucket. So I am now thinking about buying some bucket forks which I could use to load engines that I am fixing to start moving, and when moving cars can get the forks up under front of the car and lift. I am looking at these clamp on type like this which are cheap: http://www.amazon.com/Pallet-bucket-loaders-tractors- steers/dp/B002ITHNWY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1433555093sr=8- 4keywords=bucket+forks But thinking I should pony up more money and get this setup, which the bucket detaches from the FEL and you attach this, looks like it would work a lot better http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Pallet-Attachment-Deere- Loaders/dp/B00A1D103W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1433555181sr=8- 13keywords=bucket+forks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
Loading firewood is one of the things I'm especially interested in having an FEL for. Dad is probably going to start spending a lot more time at camp now that he's retired and I'll be processing wood for him. I'll probably also get a splitter to put on the 3pt. Actually with that I might split the wood right where I drop the tree... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 9:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] tractor I think this tractor is one of the best things since sliced bread. Today at old okie acres I used it to load up a HUGE tree that blew down that I cut up. Later at home I used it to move 124 around. While the FEL wont lift the front of a 124 off the ground, it will lift it up enough then I can push it to where I want. I managed to screw up the already broken front bumper air dam a little more with the front bucket. So I am now thinking about buying some bucket forks which I could use to load engines that I am fixing to start moving, and when moving cars can get the forks up under front of the car and lift. I am looking at these clamp on type like this which are cheap: http://www.amazon.com/Pallet-bucket-loaders-tractors-steers/dp/B002ITHNWY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1433555093sr=8-4keywords=bucket+forks But thinking I should pony up more money and get this setup, which the bucket detaches from the FEL and you attach this, looks like it would work a lot better http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Pallet-Attachment-Deere-Loaders/dp/B00A1D103W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1433555181sr=8-13keywords=bucket+forks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
2 feet across. How do you split those? With the splitter. That's what I do. (I never move the ram into its horizontal position.) I just chew around the edges with the thing, it gets it done eventually. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Andrew's shed
That's how I built my last one, in 1982, and still solid (last I knew 0 sold the house 3 years ago). On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I build sheds with .60 treated lumber for foundations (ground contact) 2 x 6 joists and 3/4 plywood for the floors. Last for a long time and termites/carpenter ants won't eat the .060 wood. No concrete truck/concrete finishers/floats/power trowel/forms required. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
Speaking of splitting wood I have not done this in many years. I got I split all this wood from this tree. The big chunks I looked today are something like 2 feet across. How do you split those? Do I need to chain saw them in half first? The FEL is a must have item. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Loading firewood is one of the things I'm especially interested in having an FEL for. Dad is probably going to start spending a lot more time at camp now that he's retired and I'll be processing wood for him. I'll probably also get a splitter to put on the 3pt. Actually with that I might split the wood right where I drop the tree... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 9:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] tractor I think this tractor is one of the best things since sliced bread. Today at old okie acres I used it to load up a HUGE tree that blew down that I cut up. Later at home I used it to move 124 around. While the FEL wont lift the front of a 124 off the ground, it will lift it up enough then I can push it to where I want. I managed to screw up the already broken front bumper air dam a little more with the front bucket. So I am now thinking about buying some bucket forks which I could use to load engines that I am fixing to start moving, and when moving cars can get the forks up under front of the car and lift. I am looking at these clamp on type like this which are cheap: http://www.amazon.com/Pallet-bucket-loaders-tractors-steers/dp/B002ITHNWY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1433555093sr=8-4keywords=bucket+forks But thinking I should pony up more money and get this setup, which the bucket detaches from the FEL and you attach this, looks like it would work a lot better http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Pallet-Attachment-Deere-Loaders/dp/B00A1D103W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1433555181sr=8-13keywords=bucket+forks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
Loading firewood is one of the things I'm especially interested in having an FEL for. Dad is probably going to start spending a lot more time at camp now that he's retired and I'll be processing wood for him. I'll probably also get a splitter to put on the 3pt. Actually with that I might split the wood right where I drop the tree... -Curt When I was in HS and Jr High, i cut and split a lot of oak. I sawed em up and split them right there. loaded em on a low trailer and hauled em in. Then unloaded into stacks or ricks. THen load onto the truck and haul it to town, and unload, and in some cases, we had to stack it all into ricks too. All for $35 a load. (3-4 pickup loads) $5 a face cord. I got my first car with wood money, and my 760 Remington 6mm, and some other stuff. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
Speaking of splitting wood I have not done this in many years. I got I split all this wood from this tree. The big chunks I looked today are something like 2 feet across. How do you split those? Do I need to chain saw them in half first? The FEL is a must have item. Sent from my OkieJoePonyPhone Maul and wedges. Just keep splitting off burnable pieces until it is gone. If the wood is right and you are GOOD, you can split faster with a 4 lb double bit axe. That's what I did, but on the tough stuff, I still had to use the maul and wedges. THe axe was 2-4 times more productive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb!! - a Match for your Euro W126!
Looks nice but what's the deal with the wheels? I thought something was fishy with that 600 which is why I did not jump on it but As it turned out it may have been a good deal after all. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would rather jump on this: http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060315514.html This is the W140 I was going to look at but didn’t. There’s got to be something fishy going on here, as if the car was as described it should have sold a long time ago. If he gets down to $2500 by the end of next week I’ll buy it. Dan On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You should jump on that, key should be easy to get Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just find the keys! http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5060434994.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tractor
The clamp-on forks are useful but with two drawbacks: (1) you can't see what you are doing when the bucket blocks your view and (2) you will bend the bucket if you overload them (the loader is stronger than the lip of the bucket). Still they are quite useful for the money. I got a set just to unload palletized deliveries to my farm. The driver just pulls off the road, moves the pallet to the back of the truck with his pallet jack, and I slip the forks under he pallet to unload. You may want back ballast (like a mower or box blade) to lift heavier stuff with the loader. For several reasons, you don't want the back wheels to leave the ground. While visiting my brother-in-law's farm in Virginia, he introduced me to a new term: tractor envy. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] tractor I think this tractor is one of the best things since sliced bread. Today at old okie acres I used it to load up a HUGE tree that blew down that I cut up. Later at home I used it to move 124 around. While the FEL wont lift the front of a 124 off the ground, it will lift it up enough then I can push it to where I want. I managed to screw up the already broken front bumper air dam a little more with the front bucket. So I am now thinking about buying some bucket forks which I could use to load engines that I am fixing to start moving, and when moving cars can get the forks up under front of the car and lift. I am looking at these clamp on type like this which are cheap: http://www.amazon.com/Pallet-bucket-loaders-tractors- steers/dp/B002ITHNWY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1433555093sr=8- 4keywords=bucket+forks But thinking I should pony up more money and get this setup, which the bucket detaches from the FEL and you attach this, looks like it would work a lot better http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Pallet-Attachment-Deere- Loaders/dp/B00A1D103W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1433555181sr=8- 13keywords=bucket+forks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Thanks for all the great input. I'm going to Home Depot tomorrow for some nice green astroturf. :) On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My hangar floor is painted concrete. I don't know what kind of paint, nor how old it is, but I do know that the Chem Tool carb cleaner will dissolve it. It is also VERY slippery when wet. I ended up buying a pair of shoes meant for working on wet slippery surfaces from New Balance - they make as much difference as studded snow tires vs. worn out old tires on ice/snow. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No known problems due to the coating, other than it's a bit slick when wet. Mitch. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
