Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M On 2/5/2015 1:08 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: It's The Guardian what do you expect. Hack writing, thought admittedly better hack writing that the average US paper. On 2/4/2015 11:25 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Here is an article in The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/instagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with some of the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there. That's total nonsense! He also implies that ones there is a view, different photographers are bound to take similar photo (unlike artists, who are bound to paint different paintings). If I were to translate that to a different setting: people will not get really great pictures at GFM, because they all see the same wonderfully looking views. I wonder what other PDMLers think about this... Igor -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
The writer of the article shows his own biases in the following statement: Photography can easily degenerate into a pseudo-art, with millions of people all taking pictures of the same things and all thinking we are special. This amateur delusion of photographic art is everywhere today – from Instagramto the streets and hills, where there is always someone taking their holiday snaps too damn seriously. This strange plagiarism row exposes the illusion on which today’s mass camera cult rests. Both these amateur photographers were convinced their creativity was special. The truth is that words like creativity, individuality, talent and originality don’t readily apply when you have a planet of people all taking photos. Anytime someone purports to know what anybody is thinking (let alone millions of people are thinking) you either have a serious God Complex or they are revealing more about their own motivations. Forget the argument regarding whether photography is an art or a craft. Even a single photographer can have different motivations for creating images. I doubt that many of us aspire to be thought of as the most special photographer on the planet. This guy's idea of special is rather extreme also. Switch the topic from photography to the culinary arts. Lots of people have made a souffle in the world. But one still feels a sense of accomplishment when one does it for themselves. It really doesn't matter how many other people have done it before, or even done it better. We are satisified to create a souffle that pleases our intended audience, whether that be ourselves alone or those invited to the dinner party. If there is an element of feeling special about that (otherwise known as taking a certain pride in one's accomplishments, who is anyone else to care?) Who is anyone else to take you to task or feel it is their job to knock you down a few pegs? The author uses loaded language like cult in describing photographers as well. He paints with not just a broad brush, but a very broad ROLLER. I would suggest that the author is probably a failed or frustrated photographer himself. Or maybe he simply has a personality disorder. At the very least he is not capable of very abstract thought to distill all photographers in the world down to a single cult entity as he has. He also uses a very specific situation that does not really illustrate the way most photographs are made. The iceberg photographers did not have the luxury of selecting a radically different perspective of the subject as you would in a normal situation (unless they wanted to show that they were on a ship and put something in the foreground). So of course their images were the same. They could not choose to move closer or farther away. Getting low to the ground or higher would not change the resulting image much. But most photographs do not have these limitations. They are not taken by multiple people from exactly the same perspective at the exact same time/date in exactly the same light (etc.) So he uses a very specific case in a misguided attempt to draw larger conclusions. In any event, EVEN if everyone on that ship took the exact same photo, they probably did so to record the memory, to share with their family friends back home. To possibly make a print for the wall. Is the writer suggesting that only ONE of those people had the right to create a special image? Even if we accepted that there was a component of feeling special to the act, does that make it wrong. They probably were privileged in some way to be on vacation, to be on that cruise, to be there to see that iceberg. They ARE probably special, in that regard, in their circle of friends, family, or associates. No not special in the UNIVERSE or in the WORLD, but they don't have the same scope of friends, relatives associates as the other people on that cruise. They all were special in a way. The writer has a job to do. He has a beast he needs to feed. That requires him to pound out articles on SOMETHING. He doesn't have to make sense or coherent arguments. He just needs to get eyeballs to read his stuff so that he can justify getting paid to write more in the future. In a sense, he probably tries to be incendiary. People getting mad and discussing his stuff proves that he's gotten those eyeballs. rant off On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Here is an article in The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/instagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with some of the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there. That's total nonsense! He also implies that ones there is a view, different photographers are bound to take similar photo (unlike artists, who are bound to paint different
RE: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
Igor wrote: Here is an article in The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/i nstagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with some of the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there. That's total nonsense! He also implies that ones there is a view, different photographers are bound to take similar photo (unlike artists, who are bound to paint different paintings). If I were to translate that to a different setting: people will not get really great pictures at GFM, because they all see the same wonderfully looking views. I wonder what other PDMLers think about this... You could put three photographers in an empty garden shed, and they would come back with different images. The photograph in question, even using the same tripod and camera set up, could have had different filters and been cropped and processed a dozen different ways. As for the artist comment, I thought photographers were artists who painted with light? Cheek. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
Malcolm, While starting reading this sentence below, I first thought it would be something like: You could put two photographers in an empty garden shed, and they would come back with three different images ... each! ;-) Cheers! Igor Malcolm Smith Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:40:32 -0800 wrote: You could put three photographers in an empty garden shed, and they would come back with different images. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
Here is an article in The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/instagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with some of the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there. That's total nonsense! He also implies that ones there is a view, different photographers are bound to take similar photo (unlike artists, who are bound to paint different paintings). If I were to translate that to a different setting: people will not get really great pictures at GFM, because they all see the same wonderfully looking views. I wonder what other PDMLers think about this... Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there. Interestingly, I was on a Nat Geo 'expedition' cruise of the Inside Passage in Alaska 2 years ago - a small ship with only 62 passengers - not your usual cruise ship - there were probably 45 'photographers' on board - I phones, P+ Shooters and DSLR users. When we came to something interesting all but a few of us ran to the closest point of the ship nearest the action, while myself and 2 or 3 others went to other vantage points to capture the action. We reviewed our 'best' images in the evenings and you could tell the images of those who had a different vantage point, while alot of the images shown were from the popular vantage point. I've posted a number of my images from the trip and definitely consider the very good to great. He aso states 'Of course they looked identical - because we are not expressive artists when we take pictures' - and that just might describe the majority of camera phone and P+S users - recording scenes rather than trying to create their own take on the scene. I realize he was addressing the instagram crowd but I've seen some very well captured images from I phones and P+S camera users. In a world of pretentious and complacent amateur snapping, we are drowning those moments of truth in an ocean of the banal. Agreed! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org Subject: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ... Here is an article in The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/instagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with some of the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there. That's total nonsense! He also implies that ones there is a view, different photographers are bound to take similar photo (unlike artists, who are bound to paint different paintings). If I were to translate that to a different setting: people will not get really great pictures at GFM, because they all see the same wonderfully looking views. I wonder what other PDMLers think about this... Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
On 2015-02-04 9:25 , Igor PDML-StR wrote: While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with some of the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there. photographic greatness and/or art don't consist of just the image, but also the context; greater intelligences than ours (machines, that is) will someday be processing every photograph ever stored, and drawing conclusions, elevating some images to a higher, post-art status … perhaps the machines will even manufacture the context the fact that some scenes were snapped two or more times by different photographers will be a factor in that analysis, along with the life history of the photographers, perhaps most valuing the ways in which they are *not* unique i don't think we're seeing the death of art, but perhaps the end of artists; it will take a while so for now we can be content to sometimes be drawn enough into what we see to think about who might have created it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
Check the byline: it's just Jonathan Jones finger painting in his mashed potatoes again. Two word substitutions work here: The truth is that words like creativity, individuality, talent and originality don’t readily apply when you have a planet of people all writing articles. For a good rebuttal of JJ's photography ain't art stance, see: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/dec/11/photography-is-art-sean-ohagan-jonathan-jones On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Here is an article in The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/instagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with some of the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there. That's total nonsense! He also implies that ones there is a view, different photographers are bound to take similar photo (unlike artists, who are bound to paint different paintings). If I were to translate that to a different setting: people will not get really great pictures at GFM, because they all see the same wonderfully looking views. I wonder what other PDMLers think about this... Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
On 2/4/2015 11:25 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Here is an article in The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/instagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with some of the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there. That's total nonsense! He also implies that ones there is a view, different photographers are bound to take similar photo (unlike artists, who are bound to paint different paintings). If I were to translate that to a different setting: people will not get really great pictures at GFM, because they all see the same wonderfully looking views. I wonder what other PDMLers think about this... Igor It's not plagiarism, unintentional or otherwise, if they didn't look at each other's photos before capturing their own. The rest of it seems to be the perennial whine that photography cannot be art. Yes it can, but ... The birds of a feather all the phonies and all of the fakes While the dealers they get together And they decide who gets the breaks And who's going to be in the gallery [1] He's full of stinky brown stuff. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. [1] Dire Straits In the Gallery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-v6JeolLzw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
Ken Waller wrote: In a world of pretentious and complacent amateur snapping, we are drowning those moments of truth in an ocean of the banal. Agreed! Well duh! Sturgeon's Law (90% of everything is crap). Why should it not apply to photography? -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
He's full of stinky brown stuff. MARK ! haven't seen many of these lately Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John sesso...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ... On 2/4/2015 11:25 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Here is an article in The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/instagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with some of the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there. That's total nonsense! He also implies that ones there is a view, different photographers are bound to take similar photo (unlike artists, who are bound to paint different paintings). If I were to translate that to a different setting: people will not get really great pictures at GFM, because they all see the same wonderfully looking views. I wonder what other PDMLers think about this... Igor It's not plagiarism, unintentional or otherwise, if they didn't look at each other's photos before capturing their own. The rest of it seems to be the perennial whine that photography cannot be art. Yes it can, but ... The birds of a feather all the phonies and all of the fakes While the dealers they get together And they decide who gets the breaks And who's going to be in the gallery [1] He's full of stinky brown stuff. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. [1] Dire Straits In the Gallery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-v6JeolLzw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 01:44:02PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: Check the byline: it's just Jonathan Jones finger painting in his mashed potatoes again. Yep - Jonathan Jones is paid to stir up controversy, not to serve information. 45 years ago I used to trust the Guardian. Not today, though. (And I still miss Araucaria's crosswords, especially the Christmas doubles ...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Fantasy photography
Cool. Thanks, Igor. On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:56 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Here is a photographer who shoots in the fantasy (as in fantasy books) style: http://www.boredpanda.com/fantasy-photography-russian-photographer-margarita-kareva/ I thought it was very interesting. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Fantasy photography
On 1/31/2015 12:56 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Here is a photographer who shoots in the fantasy (as in fantasy books) style: http://www.boredpanda.com/fantasy-photography-russian-photographer-margarita-kareva/ I thought it was very interesting. Igor Beautiful women, beautiful pictures. I wish I was more familiar with the Russian fairy tales these seem to be referencing. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Fantasy photography
Here is a photographer who shoots in the fantasy (as in fantasy books) style: http://www.boredpanda.com/fantasy-photography-russian-photographer-margarita-kareva/ I thought it was very interesting. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Adventure sailing in the Baltic - Photography Masterclass
Hi gang Apologies for the spam. I promised I would post this to the list. If you know anyone who likes sailing and photography (not necessarily in that order) there are places available for a leg of a Baltic cruise along the German coast in April. Please feel free to forward this to anyone who might be interested. Personal interest: friends running the business, trying to make a genuine go of it. Details: http://www.rubicon3adventuresailing.co.uk/photography-masterclass.html Many thanks. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Photography Legend Lucien Clergue Dead at 80
He belonged to the handful of people who tore down the barriers separating fine art and photography in France. A real champion of the medium, he founded Les Rencontres d'Arles in 1970, setting a blueprint for photography festivals worldwide. In 2006, he was elected at France's Académie des Beaux-Arts, the first photographer ever to receive the accolade http://news.artnet.com/people/photography-legend-lucien-clergue-dead-at-80-171193 -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Infrared Digital Photography
I used to use the *istD with an RM90 and also with an R72. The filters worked great with it and made for some interesting images. I since switched to an IR converted K10d which is very good. I've been tempted to convert my K01 to IR and sell the K10d. Aside from a better sensor, the K01's focus peaking would eliminate the need to adjust focus to compensate for the difference between IR and visible light, since the image that is peaked would be IR. I also wonder if the K01 would be more accurate metering IR vs the K10D. Mark On 11/18/2014 11:49 AM, David J Brooks wrote: The istD was a great camera to use for IR with the hoya R72 filter. I found that cameras i subsequently bought , the higher the MP the worse they were using the screw on filter. I now have a converted Canon G3 which does an ok job. Dave On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:44 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote: Cotty wrote: I know some here like infrared... this video might be interesting. I mean, it's interesting to me and I'm not into it at all :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAuUR5aIJJE Something I've had a passing interest in for years, but never tried, and I might have missed the boat to do so easily. I understand my K7 has a very strong built in IR filter, so is not the ideal camera for the job unless you permanently modify it. I've seen some really nice photos taken with an unmodified K20D with an IR lens filter, so I presume the older models didn't have such a strong in-built filter to make this possible. However, somewhere tucked away I have a set of said IR lens filters. I have a tripod. So although I won't get away with anything like the short shutter times you can with a modified camera, it's certainly something I can have a go at. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Infrared Digital Photography
Cotty wrote: I know some here like infrared... this video might be interesting. I mean, it's interesting to me and I'm not into it at all :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAuUR5aIJJE Something I've had a passing interest in for years, but never tried, and I might have missed the boat to do so easily. I understand my K7 has a very strong built in IR filter, so is not the ideal camera for the job unless you permanently modify it. I've seen some really nice photos taken with an unmodified K20D with an IR lens filter, so I presume the older models didn't have such a strong in-built filter to make this possible. However, somewhere tucked away I have a set of said IR lens filters. I have a tripod. So although I won't get away with anything like the short shutter times you can with a modified camera, it's certainly something I can have a go at. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Infrared Digital Photography
The istD was a great camera to use for IR with the hoya R72 filter. I found that cameras i subsequently bought , the higher the MP the worse they were using the screw on filter. I now have a converted Canon G3 which does an ok job. Dave On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:44 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote: Cotty wrote: I know some here like infrared... this video might be interesting. I mean, it's interesting to me and I'm not into it at all :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAuUR5aIJJE Something I've had a passing interest in for years, but never tried, and I might have missed the boat to do so easily. I understand my K7 has a very strong built in IR filter, so is not the ideal camera for the job unless you permanently modify it. I've seen some really nice photos taken with an unmodified K20D with an IR lens filter, so I presume the older models didn't have such a strong in-built filter to make this possible. However, somewhere tucked away I have a set of said IR lens filters. I have a tripod. So although I won't get away with anything like the short shutter times you can with a modified camera, it's certainly something I can have a go at. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Infrared Digital Photography
I know some here like infrared... this video might be interesting. I mean, it's interesting to me and I'm not into it at all :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAuUR5aIJJE -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: 10 ebooks on Street Photography
Thanks, Dan. I bookmarked the article to read later. Cheers, Christine On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Saw this post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-ernest-sweet/10-free-mustread-street-p_b_6087980.html For those interested in Street Photography that don't want to hassle with the individual downloads, giving email addresses, etc. here is a zip file containing 9 of the 10 titles: The file 'StreetPhotography.zip' (252.9 MB) is available for download at http://dropbox.unl.edu/uploads/20141117/53e221694e5c16d1/StreetPhotography.zip for the next 14 days. The 10th title you can page through here: http://issuu.com/alexcoghe9/docs/street_photography/35?e=8699325/9876375 Enjoy. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: 10 ebooks on Street Photography
Saw this post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-ernest-sweet/10-free-mustread-street-p_b_6087980.html For those interested in Street Photography that don't want to hassle with the individual downloads, giving email addresses, etc. here is a zip file containing 9 of the 10 titles: The file 'StreetPhotography.zip' (252.9 MB) is available for download at http://dropbox.unl.edu/uploads/20141117/53e221694e5c16d1/StreetPhotography.zip for the next 14 days. The 10th title you can page through here: http://issuu.com/alexcoghe9/docs/street_photography/35?e=8699325/9876375 Enjoy. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Some Hairy Portrait Photography
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Re: I hate digital photography!
On 10/1/2014 3:34 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 13:23 , Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Simple solution: Get yourself a 512-meg SD card and you'll only be able to shoot about 1 roll of film before you're done. You're off by a factor of 2, my last operating 2 gig card shows a capacity of 58 exposures in a K-5II I'd assume that you'd need a 1gig card to hold between about 36, so a K-3 would probably need that 2gigs. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:18 , P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/1/2014 3:34 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 13:23 , Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Simple solution: Get yourself a 512-meg SD card and you'll only be able to shoot about 1 roll of film before you're done. You're off by a factor of 2, my last operating 2 gig card shows a capacity of 58 exposures in a K-5II I'd assume that you'd need a 1gig card to hold between about 36, so a K-3 would probably need that 2gigs. Ack - my only point of reference was K5 image sizes... and even then I was guessing fast 'n' loose. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 13:23 , Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Simple solution: Get yourself a 512-meg SD card and you'll only be able to shoot about 1 roll of film before you're done. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 15:44 , Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: I don't actually delete those I don't get to, though. They remain in my archives in case I want to wander through them and see if there's something I missed worth processing, now and then. I do this too. However, last night I realized that for my finished sets of Concert Photographs, where I'd already culled the best of many machine-gun-sequenced shots, there was no reason to keep the leftovers. I went through my last 3 years of images from various events (it's obvious when I see a single folder with 5-700 images in it) and nuked everything that hadn't been edited or included in a collection. 15 minutes of this work yielded 200gigabytes (!!) of space cleared off of my drive. No regrets (yet) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 2, 2014, at 8:34 am, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Simple solution: Get yourself a 512-meg SD card and you'll only be able to shoot about 1 roll of film before you're done. I should try that just for fun... I think I have a 32 or 64Mb one somewhere. Which reminds me, I'd better get out and buy a couple of 16Gb cards for my trip! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks a lot to all who responded on and off the list. I hope it was clear that my statement in the subject was a bit facetious. I like digital photography (and the camera I currently have, k-5 IIs), It enabled many things that were unavailable (that easily) to me during the film era. But some aspects of it bring up the issues described in the original message. I appreciate many different thoughts and suggestions. Some (many) of those I've been using for long time. But a few suggestions helped me in improving my work flow. In particular, the idea of rating the image with 1-5 stars is helpful. In most cases, I was just sorting them out with select/reject flags. THe downside of those in insufficient granularity, and the fact that those are local variable, i.e. they apply only to the particular collection and do not show in a different collection if the photo is included in more than one collection, or even in the original folder. In the past week, I've adopted the following star rating: 1 star - bad, can be deleted. (but I keep the original on the HDD) 2 stars - barely OK , will not be used for the project, but I might go back to that if I need a snapshot of something/somebody. 3 stars - OK for the project, and might be included in the final set (depending on the project), if I don't have all that I need in 4+ -starred photos. 4 stars - photos will be in the final set for the project (unless a duplicate for another 4+ star photo) 5 stars - 4 stars plus a possible value for other projects (e.g. overall great photograph that I might print or work more on in the future). Absence of a star rating is not a bad thing, but just the fact that the file hasn't been rated (or hasn't been rated yet.) I don't have philosophical issues with the stars (or quasars), and I consider the ratings system described above somewhat similar to Yelp star rating, where 1 means awful, and 2 means bad. That's a very typical system for many evaluations on the 1-5 scale (very bad, bad, neutral, good, very good). As you can see these ratings are project-oriented but with the idea of keeping these ratings uniform across projects so that I can go back and find the best photos in the older projects for a new project. E.g. when I need to do a slide show on a particular topic, I can quickly choose photos from several different past projects (e.g. events) that are alread rated at 5, or sometimes 4. Let me share back some of my organizational practices (in case they would be useful to others): I do use the colors for some specific purposes, but those are usually inconsistent, and not used too frequently. My folders on the HDD are already sorted by years and (most of the time) for separate events. I use collections for two main purposes: 1. to select photos for a specific project (or event) and to prepare web-galleries. Occasionally, for some special projects, I create a separate catalog (either from the beginning, from the moment of importing photos into LR, or later on, by exporting some collections as a catalog). One of my concerns is that as the main catalog grows, at some point it contributes to some slugishness. So, I've been considering starting a new main catalog, but I haven't decided on that. I might do that at the point of installing the new version of LR. I am also considering adopting something similar to what Larry described with respect to the catalogs. As for committments, - I am avoiding those. Bbut even when there is no formal committment, after shooting at some event (e.g. scientific conference) I've had people asking and reminding me that some photos haven't been posted every time they see me. And, occasionally, I either agree to provide photos, or feel that doing that would be benefitial professionally [in my day job], frequently for networking purposes. I am sure some of PDMLers are familiar with such situations. Attila: I don't start processing photos until the photographs are completely imported (and the previews are generated), as otherwise, the computer are too sluggish. Other people on the list have written here about the same experience previously. Often, after a coming back from a trip with many photos, I set up the import before going to bed, and let it running for several hours. THe inconvenience of that is that you cannot queue tasks in LR (at least in LR 3.x and 4.x, don't know about 5.x). LR always runs the jobs in parallel, and if those jobs are similar in nature (different imports or generation of different web-galleries), it's inefficient, and occasionally LR gets stuck. Again, thanks to all for the thoughtful discussion and helpful ideas! Igor On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select
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Thanks, Chris! Darrel’s not so keen on me driving and taking photos at the same time. One does have to be extra careful. Cheers, Christine On Sep 30, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Super set. Glad that you managed to stay on the road and not hit anything... Nice clouds too! Chris On 29 September 2014 01:06, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In the words of Sir Arthur Thomas Quiller-Couch, Murder your darlings. Use that delete key and use it often. Get rid of your substandard (below *your* standards) shots and move on. The more you do this the better your work will become, the less you'll shoot and the less you'll need to delete. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've never been able to throw out photos, even the 99% that are crap. It's not so bad with the digital stuff as the 2Tb of storage I have will probably last me forever, but I am still trying to convince myself to do something with all of my old prints. Cheers, Dave On Oct 1, 2014, at 2:11 pm, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: In the words of Sir Arthur Thomas Quiller-Couch, Murder your darlings. Use that delete key and use it often. Get rid of your substandard (below *your* standards) shots and move on. The more you do this the better your work will become, the less you'll shoot and the less you'll need to delete. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Alan: I think I miss read your email. I did snap the shutter while driving. Sorry for the confusion. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Some wonderful scenes, Christine. Everything so spic-and-span. Looks like a huge pumpkin crop. Hope you didn't snap while driving. Alan C -Original Message- From: Christine Aguila Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:06 AM To: PDML List Subject: Hail Mary Photography :-) Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I had to go to firefox - google chrome doesn't let me download anything in dropbox. I like the color better than the desaturated wish the sky had less cyan, more magenta - but going to a nice cold totally bW might be the very best, for my eye. CUte that you called it 4ann :-) I stayed in Forrest on my way from Ohio going up to Chicago and deliberately avoiding the highways... kind sweet tiny town at the junction of 24 and 47 down state a bit. ann On 9/28/2014 23:52, Christine Aguila wrote: Thanks, Ann. Try this link to the color version of 3759. I don’t like the color version that much. You may get a “sign-up box” on the lower left hand side. I can’t figure out how to get rid of it. We’ll just have to make peace with it for now :-). https://www.dropbox.com/s/77o8qecep3qg9n1/4ann.jpg?dl=0 Route 47 is just fine, though there has been a bit of housing development since 2001. Cheers, Christine On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Nice set! Fun to shoot like that isn't it? .. I especially like IMG3728 .. Looks like you desaturated IMG3759 a lot - would love to see the full color version - that particular scene is meaningful to me. Rt 47 is a pleasure - or at least it was in 2001. ann On 9/28/2014 20:06, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You need to get yourself one of those light bars that go across the top of the car so you can mount strobes for fill flash. ;-D ... and should wired be read as weird? On 9/28/2014 8:06 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice set, especially like the silhouettes of trees against the sunrise. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:06 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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very nice indeed Dave On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's a great set - I have tried that a few times but have never been successful. #3759 is my favorite - I like how you rendered it with the muted colors. Capturing the farmer in 3759 is quite an accomplishment! Mark On 9/28/2014 8:06 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Christine, Nice drive and no crashes! The clouds look very creamy and the sunset shots are great. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Some interesting pics. The first is my favorite. Paul On Sep 29, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, Nice drive and no crashes! The clouds look very creamy and the sunset shots are great. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The first one is the best! Igor On Sep 28, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend.though I.m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend.s house near Dekalb, Illinois.an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn't drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some .wired fall colors. as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather.well, it.s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28/9/14, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Thanks Christine, very much enjoyed looking at those. XX -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, John, Attila, Dave, Mark, Bob, Paul, Igor, Cotty! Comments much appreciated. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2014, at 11:44 AM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: You need to get yourself one of those light bars that go across the top of the car so you can mount strobes for fill flash. ;-D ... and should wired be read as weird? On 9/28/2014 8:06 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Super set. Glad that you managed to stay on the road and not hit anything... Nice clouds too! Chris On 29 September 2014 01:06, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Hail Mary Photography :-)
Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice set! Fun to shoot like that isn't it? .. I especially like IMG3728 .. Looks like you desaturated IMG3759 a lot - would love to see the full color version - that particular scene is meaningful to me. Rt 47 is a pleasure - or at least it was in 2001. ann On 9/28/2014 20:06, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Ann. Try this link to the color version of 3759. I don’t like the color version that much. You may get a “sign-up box” on the lower left hand side. I can’t figure out how to get rid of it. We’ll just have to make peace with it for now :-). https://www.dropbox.com/s/77o8qecep3qg9n1/4ann.jpg?dl=0 Route 47 is just fine, though there has been a bit of housing development since 2001. Cheers, Christine On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Nice set! Fun to shoot like that isn't it? .. I especially like IMG3728 .. Looks like you desaturated IMG3759 a lot - would love to see the full color version - that particular scene is meaningful to me. Rt 47 is a pleasure - or at least it was in 2001. ann On 9/28/2014 20:06, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hail Mary Photography :-)
I am glad you survived! All are nice but #6 is special. stan On Sep 28, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great Skies, especially the first image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hail Mary Photography :-)
All of them are wonderful to look at but #1 is my clear favorite. Thanks for sharing them. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hail Mary Photography :-)
Thanks, Stan! Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I am glad you survived! All are nice but #6 is special. stan On Sep 28, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hail Mary Photography :-)
Thanks, Dan! Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Great Skies, especially the first image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hail Mary Photography :-)
Thanks, Bruce! Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:13 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: All of them are wonderful to look at but #1 is my clear favorite. Thanks for sharing them. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hail Mary Photography :-)
Some wonderful scenes, Christine. Everything so spic-and-span. Looks like a huge pumpkin crop. Hope you didn't snap while driving. Alan C -Original Message- From: Christine Aguila Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:06 AM To: PDML List Subject: Hail Mary Photography :-) Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Alan. Nope, didn't snap, though that sun was tough to drive into. I wish I could have stopped to do justice to the pumpkin patch, but I had stayed up till four in the morning the night before, woke up at noon, gabbed with my girlfriend for another two hours, then really had to get on the road home. Otherwise, I would have pulled over to take better shots of the harvesting they were doing. Still, fun to see even though the picture is bit, well, let's say bland :-. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Some wonderful scenes, Christine. Everything so spic-and-span. Looks like a huge pumpkin crop. Hope you didn't snap while driving. Alan C -Original Message- From: Christine Aguila Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:06 AM To: PDML List Subject: Hail Mary Photography :-) Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hail Mary Photography :-)
My, you're up late, but I can assure you the sun is still there! Alan C -Original Message- From: Christine Aguila Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:44 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Hail Mary Photography :-) Thanks, Alan. Nope, didn't snap, though that sun was tough to drive into. I wish I could have stopped to do justice to the pumpkin patch, but I had stayed up till four in the morning the night before, woke up at noon, gabbed with my girlfriend for another two hours, then really had to get on the road home. Otherwise, I would have pulled over to take better shots of the harvesting they were doing. Still, fun to see even though the picture is bit, well, let's say bland :-. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Some wonderful scenes, Christine. Everything so spic-and-span. Looks like a huge pumpkin crop. Hope you didn't snap while driving. Alan C -Original Message- From: Christine Aguila Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:06 AM To: PDML List Subject: Hail Mary Photography :-) Hi Everyone: Just finished an insanely social weekend—though I’m not complaining about that :-). Anyway, yesterday I drove out to a friend’s house near Dekalb, Illinois—an awful drive with all the construction along I90. But once I exited I90 on to route 47, then on to route 72, the driving relaxed, but the sun was quite in-my-face. The camera was ready in the passenger seat, so round my neck went the strap, and I was pointing, then releasing the shutter, sometimes just pointing, but sometimes looking through the shutter. Traffic was a light, so it was just a matter of staying very focused, so I didn’t drive myself off the road. Then it was time to get up the next morning and return the way I had come. I caught some guys working in the pumpkin patch, and some “wired fall colors” as I returned to the city. http://www.caguila.com/hailmary/index.html Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful fall weather—well, it’s been absolutely beautiful here. Chicago is having some absolutely gorgeous weather. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Good Ars Technica article on photography copyright
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/one-mans-endless-hopeless-struggle-to-protect-his-copyrighted-images/ Dave Brooks can relate, I'm sure. probably others among us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good Ars Technica article on photography copyright
Great article - Thanks, Mark! ann On 9/25/2014 08:05, Mark Roberts wrote: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/one-mans-endless-hopeless-struggle-to-protect-his-copyrighted-images/ Dave Brooks can relate, I'm sure. probably others among us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good Ars Technica article on photography copyright
I quote from the article: I am leaving professional photography for an academic position less prone to the frustrations of a floundering copyright system. But that's not right, exactly, the copyright system isn't floundering, it works quite well for those it's designed to protect. Disney studios and their like benefit greatly, and somewhat smaller players with somewhat looser ethics, benefit as well. If they can afford a legal staff, to fight for your rights, they're in good shape. While at the same time if the big players, accidentally, or maybe not so accidentally, violate someone else' copyright, and it's a small player, it's unlikely they'll even be able to effectively challenge the violation. The copyright system works just fine. Then again maybe I'm just cynical. On 9/25/2014 8:05 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/one-mans-endless-hopeless-struggle-to-protect-his-copyrighted-images/ Dave Brooks can relate, I'm sure. probably others among us. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good Ars Technica article on photography copyright
MARK! On 9/25/2014 11:01, P.J. Alling wrote: ... Then again maybe I'm just cynical. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good Ars Technica article on photography copyright
Thanks for posting, Mark. Good read. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/one-mans-endless-hopeless-struggle-to-protect-his-copyrighted-images/ Dave Brooks can relate, I'm sure. probably others among us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate digital photography!
Candice just sent me this link to a tutorial on combining LR catalogs http://tv.adobe.com/watch/the-complete-picture-with-julieanne-kost/lr3-merging-individual-lightroom-catalogs-into-a-master-catalog-/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow! In my many years of shooting weddings I never encountered anything like that. Good thing he left instead of dealing with that disaster in the making. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: From the Clients from Hell web site: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/98049880477/when-you-contact-me-via-my-website-a-few -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The first comment is priceless: I feel bad for the photographer, but worse for the groom - he probably thought he was showing up for a simple dinner and movie date.. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: From the Clients from Hell web site: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/98049880477/when-you-contact-me-via-my-website-a-few -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Came across this one as well http://clientsfromhell.net/post/95548445446/client-my-fiance-and-i-are-unhappy-with-the Jeffery Johnson Photo Captures by Jeffery http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com http://www.Facebook.com/photocapturesbyjeffery https://twitter.com/PhotoCaptures Bringing joy and happiness to lonely and depressed walls across the nation with wonderful eclectic photography and Pet photo sessions for an array of pets and their families. On 9/23/2014 10:39 AM, Attila Boros wrote: The first comment is priceless: I feel bad for the photographer, but worse for the groom - he probably thought he was showing up for a simple dinner and movie date.. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: From the Clients from Hell web site: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/98049880477/when-you-contact-me-via-my-website-a-few -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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How much you want to bet she's not the kind of asshole who will sue him for ruining her wedding? On 9/23/2014 11:33 AM, Bruce wrote: Wow! In my many years of shooting weddings I never encountered anything like that. Good thing he left instead of dealing with that disaster in the making. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: From the Clients from Hell web site: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/98049880477/when-you-contact-me-via-my-website-a-few -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, given that (according to the postings) he's already made her family take down negative reviews on his ?facebook? page, and he's got copies of all the correspondence to do with the terms of the booking, I don't think she'll get very far if she's dumb enough to try that. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:07:42PM -0400, John wrote: How much you want to bet she's not the kind of asshole who will sue him for ruining her wedding? On 9/23/2014 11:33 AM, Bruce wrote: Wow! In my many years of shooting weddings I never encountered anything like that. Good thing he left instead of dealing with that disaster in the making. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: From the Clients from Hell web site: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/98049880477/when-you-contact-me-via-my-website-a-few -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:07:42PM -0400, John wrote: How much you want to bet she's not the kind of asshole who will sue him for ruining her wedding? Well, given that (according to the postings) he's already made her family take down negative reviews on his ?facebook? page, and he's got copies of all the correspondence to do with the terms of the booking, I don't think she'll get very far if she's dumb enough to try that. Her case is so bad even a lawyer wouldn't take it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Since under tort law there is no contract, and the reason for that is that she attempted an act of fraud, I expect that no competent attorney would allow her to try, as it would open her to possible criminal prosecution, which seems unlikely but is possible. On 9/23/2014 1:34 PM, John Francis wrote: Well, given that (according to the postings) he's already made her family take down negative reviews on his ?facebook? page, and he's got copies of all the correspondence to do with the terms of the booking, I don't think she'll get very far if she's dumb enough to try that. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:07:42PM -0400, John wrote: How much you want to bet she's not the kind of asshole who will sue him for ruining her wedding? On 9/23/2014 11:33 AM, Bruce wrote: Wow! In my many years of shooting weddings I never encountered anything like that. Good thing he left instead of dealing with that disaster in the making. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: From the Clients from Hell web site: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/98049880477/when-you-contact-me-via-my-website-a-few -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah, but the bet is whether she *is* dumb enough to sue, not whether she'd win or lose. On 9/23/2014 1:34 PM, John Francis wrote: Well, given that (according to the postings) he's already made her family take down negative reviews on his ?facebook? page, and he's got copies of all the correspondence to do with the terms of the booking, I don't think she'll get very far if she's dumb enough to try that. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:07:42PM -0400, John wrote: How much you want to bet she's not the kind of asshole who will sue him for ruining her wedding? On 9/23/2014 11:33 AM, Bruce wrote: Wow! In my many years of shooting weddings I never encountered anything like that. Good thing he left instead of dealing with that disaster in the making. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: From the Clients from Hell web site: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/98049880477/when-you-contact-me-via-my-website-a-few -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John wrote: Yeah, but the bet is whether she *is* dumb enough to sue, not whether she'd win or lose. That marriage ain't going to last long enough for a lawsuit over the photos to even get to court. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 22 Sep 2014, at 23:55, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-09-22 15:23 Larry Colen wrote (unless they are rated 1 star, no redeeming value) pardon me for a philosophical detour — are stars a measure of goodness, or is it a 1-5 scale of really bad, somewhat bad, neutral, somewhat good, really good? Me no Likert B since they are stars, like one gives to school children or to generals, i instinctively think one star means somewhat good, and that's how i use it for rating my own photos (no star means neutral and bad stuff gets the X); but internet usage seems to be against me — a one star review means awful stuff not that end-users generally have a choice about the symbol used, but for the developers there's a semantic implication for design choices; if it doesn't mean good, why use stars? I use quasars B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Back in the earlier film era (20+ years), when I was shooting BW, I had a similar situation with a backlog (but on a different scale), - since I was developing and printing myself. So, I switched to slides - I was getting the film developed at a shop. (Then, when minilabs became accessible for me, I started doing color prints, - as it was easy to take the film and get the prints.) Now, I feel myself in some way similarly to the situation I had 20-some years ago (albeit on a different level of everything), - swamped with the amount of photographs taken and not having enough time to process them. Do they have a treatment for photogolism? I wonder how other people on the list deal with the photos they take, especially those who take many photos. Regards, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No problem at all, since I don't have any deadlines, I'm not bothered by having a huge backlog. From time to time I look over it and ruthlessly delete the ones deemed not worthy of processing. We will soon have rainy weather with awful looking skies, so I will have more time to do processing anyway. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Back in the earlier film era (20+ years), when I was shooting BW, I had a similar situation with a backlog (but on a different scale), - since I was developing and printing myself. So, I switched to slides - I was getting the film developed at a shop. (Then, when minilabs became accessible for me, I started doing color prints, - as it was easy to take the film and get the prints.) Now, I feel myself in some way similarly to the situation I had 20-some years ago (albeit on a different level of everything), - swamped with the amount of photographs taken and not having enough time to process them. Do they have a treatment for photogolism? I wonder how other people on the list deal with the photos they take, especially those who take many photos. Regards, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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By the way with digital, you can still take it to the lab and have it processed for you. You might not like what you get back, but I've had that problem with minilabs back in the day. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Attila I was expecting somebody to make this type of a comment. I thought of that myself: 1. First, I found the labs and the masters within those labs that were suitable for me. 2. That was the limit of what was available to me (physically, as I didn't have access to a lab myself, or financially, - where I couldn't afford anything beyond that). 3. Now, about giving photos to be printed at a lab. Because of the demise of the photo-labs, it's harder to find those that are suitable (and affordable). But the main and the bigger reason is the sheer quantity of photos that digital enabled. And yes, what is available to me, as well as what I am capable of, - both have changed, and in most cases, I won't be satisfied with the results if I brought my files to a generic lab without any prior processing (and selection!!!) done by me. BTW, as for the time, - for me even just the process of copying, importing photos into LR, and doing the selecton process - already take considerable amount of time. I don't have hard deadline either. But when you are taking photos at an event (that being a dance event, professional conference or even an outing with friends), people want to see those photos soon, not a year later. Igor Attila Boros Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:33:02 -0700 wrote: By the way with digital, you can still take it to the lab and have it processed for you. You might not like what you get back, but I've had that problem with minilabs back in the day. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: BTW, as for the time, - for me even just the process of copying, importing photos into LR Don't wait for this to finish, start the process and do something else while it's running. and doing the selecton process - already take considerable amount of time. Set up your workspace so you can select the photos easier. If I have more photos that are similar, I view them side by side to decide which one I like better. In Lightroom I think if you go through the images in develop module it will be slower because it will render them, the Library module it's faster because it's showing a pre-rendered image. You can view rows of images, assign ratings using shortcuts, sort by ratings... try to make this faster for you. I don't have hard deadline either. But when you are taking photos at an event (that being a dance event, professional conference or even an outing with friends), people want to see those photos soon, not a year later. You don't have to show them all. Cull first, process only the strong images. If there's still a lot, cull more. For events shoot RAW+jpeg, sometimes the jpeg turns out to be good. Also on event shots there will be many photos taken under similar light. Develop one, synchronize the rest. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Shoot less. Process what's appealing immediately. Delete the rest. Oh, and don't make commitments to others to deliver photographs. I wonder how other people on the list deal with the photos they take, especially those who take many photos. See the above. I don't actually delete those I don't get to, though. They remain in my archives in case I want to wander through them and see if there's something I missed worth processing, now and then. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So what do you do when your LR catalog hits over 100k? You just keep adding? I'm at the point where I want to just delete everything and pare it all down to just portfolio worthy stuff. I have months worth of shots to sort and edit and quite frankly I'm really not looking forward to sorting through 100,000 pictures either. Some flagged, some not. It seems like whenever I start purging I delete something I wanted by accident, so I've been really reluctant to delete things but the lack of hard drive space is cramping my style right now hard. Yeah, I could just buy another drive, but for every drive I buy, I have to buy a 2nd so I at the very least have some redundancy. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Shoot less. Process what's appealing immediately. Delete the rest. Oh, and don't make commitments to others to deliver photographs. I wonder how other people on the list deal with the photos they take, especially those who take many photos. See the above. I don't actually delete those I don't get to, though. They remain in my archives in case I want to wander through them and see if there's something I missed worth processing, now and then. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Igor PDML-StR wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! There are aspects of film photography that I love, particularly the rhythm of shooting. However I love digital. With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Speaking of which, I missed you and Jane at SFLX this weekend. It's a shame that you didn't have a flight to miss on Saturday, Gordon Webster's band was completely off the hook. It was amazing. I'm facing 2700 frames from this weekend. I wasn't going to do much shooting, but did want to get some photos for people. Friday night, one of the organizers asked if I was going to be shooting all weekend. I said that I had been planning on getting a few but was planning on mostly dancing. He said that if I took photos, he'd see what he could arrange with the other photographer about refunding some of my registration, which he did last night. The money made a little bit of difference, but the sign of being appreciated really made me feel nice. For event photos, I have the facebook photos which don't have to be as excellent photographically, but which are mostly so the people at the event has photos of themselves to remember the event by, or to show off to their friends. Out of that, I'll select the flickr photos which are the ones that generally stand on their own merits for someone who wasn't at the event. The key to my process is to take several passes as quickly as possible to narrow the photos down to a manageable number. I import everything into lightroom. I'll then do basic sorting into directories. If I'm photographing a band, I try to put all the photos of each musician in a separate directory, so that later I can easily compare them with each other. Also, when I process photos into jpegs, that means that photos of each person end up on a disk where they can easily be found. At this step I may do some mass adjustment for white balance, exposure, autotoning. I also may do mass tagging, like a tag for the event, or the location. My rating system is 1: The photo is completely ruined technically, there is nothing that can be recovered. 2: meh. There is nothing technically wrong with this photo, but nothing artistically right with it. Unless you happen to be the person in the photo and it happens to be the only photo of you at the event and you'll take anything. 3: Good enough technically and artistically to consider putting on the web. 4: Good enough to pay a couple dollars to get a print of. 5: One of my absolute best photos ever. I don't think I've rated any photos a 5 yet. The goal of the first couple of passes is to narrow down as many photos as quickly as possible. I will have lightroom process everything to 1:1 previews because those load the fastest. I had the machine do that last night while I was sleeping. On my first pass, I set lightroom to only show unrated (0 stars) photos. I take a very quick pass rating photos 1 or 3. If there is any question whether a photo is a 2 or a 3 I just rate it a 3 and move to the next. I'd rather get a false positive and look at it again than spend time looking at it. At the end, everything left is rated a 2. My next pass, I go through and select the best photos from the ones previously selected. I may downgrade a few to 2 stars. At this point I've seen everything and know about much better photos that may be later in the set. Sometimes at this step I start at the end and work my way back. I'll use the P key (and sometimes the X key) at this point to make my selections. I may make a second quick pass, using the U key to drop some of the selected photos out. Once I have this selection, I highlight all the selected photos, make a collection and use the U key to unpick everything. I may repeat this cycle a couple of times, as long as I can go through and make decisions quickly. I might do some mass adjustments of photos, as in select a bunch similarlry misexposed or with bad color balance, make a group adjustment and reprocess the previews. Each time I end up with a more select subset of photos to make a collection of. Occasionally, I'll delete the keepers from the collection of the previous iteration to give me best, better, good etc. particularly if the photos are of someone that may be looking for different things than I (how well they are doing a particular move rather than how artistic the photo). When I've got the group of photos to a manageable size, I'll then go through and quickly do individual adjustments, mostly cropping and fine tweaking of exposure. I may also unpick photos at this point. Ideally I'm down to under 20% of my original photos, with many of them similar shots. At this point I can go through and find the best of several similar shots
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Zos Xavius wrote: So what do you do when your LR catalog hits over 100k? You just keep adding? I'm at the point where I want to just delete everything and pare it all down to just portfolio worthy stuff. I have months worth of shots to sort and edit and quite frankly I'm really not looking forward to sorting through 100,000 pictures either. Some flagged, some not. It seems like whenever I start purging I delete something I wanted by accident, so I've been really reluctant to delete things but the lack of hard drive space is cramping my style right now hard. Yeah, I could just buy another drive, but for every drive I buy, I have to buy a 2nd so I at the very least have some redundancy. I have two primary catalogs. One is the everything catalog which has every photo that I've taken. Yes, it's over 100k frames. Giving credit where it's due, I think I got this idea from Godfrey. The catalog that I spend most of my time in is my working catalog. It has my newer work, plus older work that I've been fine tuning, printing etc. Every so often I export all of my recently modified files from working into a xfer catalog, then import that into the everything catalog. Once or twice a year, I'll delete all of the older meh photos from working, and occasionally I'll delete anything under four stars that is over a certain age since I processed it. I don't tend to delete the raw files from the everything catalog (unless they are rated 1 star, no redeeming value) because every so often I need to find photos of someone who passed away and my not quite good enough to put on the web might be one of the best photos there is of someone. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/22/2014 2:23 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Back in the earlier film era (20+ years), when I was shooting BW, I had a similar situation with a backlog (but on a different scale), - since I was developing and printing myself. So, I switched to slides - I was getting the film developed at a shop. (Then, when minilabs became accessible for me, I started doing color prints, - as it was easy to take the film and get the prints.) Now, I feel myself in some way similarly to the situation I had 20-some years ago (albeit on a different level of everything), - swamped with the amount of photographs taken and not having enough time to process them. Do they have a treatment for photogolism? I wonder how other people on the list deal with the photos they take, especially those who take many photos. Regards, Igor A lot of them I just put away for six months before looking at them again. I'm not so emotionally invested in them that way. I'm also starting a program to use a roll of film per week kind of just to decompress maybe rekindle my interest. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm pretty sure Lightroom will allow you to have more than one catalog. If your current catalog is getting to big, stop adding to it and start a new catalog going forward. On 9/22/2014 5:04 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: So what do you do when your LR catalog hits over 100k? You just keep adding? I'm at the point where I want to just delete everything and pare it all down to just portfolio worthy stuff. I have months worth of shots to sort and edit and quite frankly I'm really not looking forward to sorting through 100,000 pictures either. Some flagged, some not. It seems like whenever I start purging I delete something I wanted by accident, so I've been really reluctant to delete things but the lack of hard drive space is cramping my style right now hard. Yeah, I could just buy another drive, but for every drive I buy, I have to buy a 2nd so I at the very least have some redundancy. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Shoot less. Process what's appealing immediately. Delete the rest. Oh, and don't make commitments to others to deliver photographs. I wonder how other people on the list deal with the photos they take, especially those who take many photos. See the above. I don't actually delete those I don't get to, though. They remain in my archives in case I want to wander through them and see if there's something I missed worth processing, now and then. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Deleting is one of the best ways to improve your photography ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I hate digital photography! So what do you do when your LR catalog hits over 100k? You just keep adding? I'm at the point where I want to just delete everything and pare it all down to just portfolio worthy stuff. I have months worth of shots to sort and edit and quite frankly I'm really not looking forward to sorting through 100,000 pictures either. Some flagged, some not. It seems like whenever I start purging I delete something I wanted by accident, so I've been really reluctant to delete things but the lack of hard drive space is cramping my style right now hard. Yeah, I could just buy another drive, but for every drive I buy, I have to buy a 2nd so I at the very least have some redundancy. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Shoot less. Process what's appealing immediately. Delete the rest. Oh, and don't make commitments to others to deliver photographs. I wonder how other people on the list deal with the photos they take, especially those who take many photos. See the above. I don't actually delete those I don't get to, though. They remain in my archives in case I want to wander through them and see if there's something I missed worth processing, now and then. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2014-09-22 15:23 Larry Colen wrote (unless they are rated 1 star, no redeeming value) pardon me for a philosophical detour — are stars a measure of goodness, or is it a 1-5 scale of really bad, somewhat bad, neutral, somewhat good, really good? since they are stars, like one gives to school children or to generals, i instinctively think one star means somewhat good, and that's how i use it for rating my own photos (no star means neutral and bad stuff gets the X); but internet usage seems to be against me — a one star review means awful stuff not that end-users generally have a choice about the symbol used, but for the developers there's a semantic implication for design choices; if it doesn't mean good, why use stars? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 6:55 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: pardon me for a philosophical detour -- are stars a measure of goodness, or is it a 1-5 scale of really bad, somewhat bad, neutral, somewhat good, really good? Originally, a measure of quality. The first star ratings were in the 1920s in Michelin Guides, aimed at drivers since Michelin is a tire company, and rated restaurants: 1: Worth visiting if you are in the area 2: Worth a detour 3: Worth a special trip As of about 5 years ago when I last saw numbers, there were 81 Michelin 3-star restaurants worldwide. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
So what do you do when your LR catalog hits over 100k? You just keep
adding? I'm at the point where I want to just delete everything and
pare it all down to just portfolio worthy stuff. I have months worth
of shots to sort and edit and quite frankly I'm really not looking
forward to sorting through 100,000 pictures either. Some flagged, some
not. It seems like whenever I start purging I delete something I
wanted by accident, so I've been really reluctant to delete things but
the lack of hard drive space is cramping my style right now hard.
Yeah, I could just buy another drive, but for every drive I buy, I
have to buy a 2nd so I at the very least have some redundancy.
Just keep adding. Well, not quite.
I've written about it before. I maintain a two-catalog system for most of my
work. First catalog contains all my work in progress which generally
stretches back until 2006 now. There are about 88000 image files in that
catalog at present, organized into a year and day hierarchy.
Second catalog is a completed work catalog. This contains all the photos I've
abandoned ... eh, completed. It's also organized by year, but the years are
organized by project, not time. There are about 50,000 images in that one.
Beyond those two, I have a compendium catalog that I suck both of the other two
catalogs into and has all the additional images that come from years before
2006. That allows me to browse through everything when I'm scanning for
something interesting or searching for locations, keywords, etc. At present,
there are 375,000 files in that one.
In addition to the above, when I'm working on a particular project, I make
small catalogs once I've established all the photos that a project will
include. I recently created another one of these working on a client order. It
enables me to focus on that work, specifically and without distraction. Once
the project is done, I merge the 'sub-catalog' back into the completed work
catalog.
My workflow works like this.
- When I get back from a session, whether it's 10 or 1000 exposures, I import
them all and set basic keyword and location information.
- I step through them all quickly using the Pick and Garbage flags - no more
than a second looking at each image.
- Then I filter for just the garbage, flip through it, and delete it.
- Then I filter for the un-picked images to see if I missed any that might be
picks the same way I did the first pass.
- Once I've finished the second pass, I filter by picks and put them all into a
collection which is named MMDD-{subject}. That way the collections stack
up in date order. For an average session, the collection usually has 5 to 20
images in it at that point.
- I unset all the pick flags and walk through all the photos slowly now, remove
what I now feel doesn't belong in the good stuff, and start processing in the
order I think they're interesting.
Usually by the time I've processed five to ten in any given collection, I've
gotten through most of the ones I really like. If I then wait three to six
months and look at the collection again, sometimes another couple of images
jump out at me and I process them.
I use the star ratings this way:
* means I've done basic adjustments on it. .. the image is interesting enough
to do that.
** means I like this, I might post it. .. I write these to the completed
archive.
*** meens Yeah, this one made it. .. a rendering was put on my iPad and on
the web.
Four and five stars I reserve for project work on virtual copies:
hot candidate for the project
* included and finished in the project
Any file that gets demoted to under *** is removed from the project.
Once the project is done and the files written out to the completed work
archive, I clear all the star ratings.
Color labels I use for a lot of different things and they're always temporary.
For instance, I might use colors to group a panorama, or a set of sequences, or
whatever. No matter how I use them, I clear them after the use is over.
There are countless ways to organize and use the tools in Lightroom. This works
for me.
Godfrey
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I have several relatives and friends who are involved in various creative artwork, mostly hobbyists. Painters, weavers, basket makers, quilters, stitchers, etc. Once you have made your first 100-150 baskets you will have given several to all friends and relatives, filled up your own house, and every time you have the itch to start a new project you have this worry about storage space. How many paintings can fit in one person's house? Same problem with pots, sculptures, etc. etc. You and I, on the other hand, have the luxury of storing our art as teeny-weeny electronic thingies on some discs and you think you have a problem?!? (;-) But as to your question: 1. Take fewer pictures. Be more selective. Use a tripod. 2. Do a quick run-through of your images as soon as possible. Give a 1 rating to keepers, skip the rest. If and when you have time, you can re-review the zeros and verify tht there are no keepers in that bunch, but meanwhile you have established a basic (smaller) set to work with. 3. Sometime later, sort out the 1's, go through those and give a 2 to any you might work with in the near future to satisfy those nagging commitments. 4. When you have time to work with your 2's, upgrade them to 3, 4, or 5 depending on how thrilled you are with them after you've done what you could to them in post processing. 5. Make a Collection of your higher rated ones from an event so you can quickly find and distribute shots to others. When you re-visit that event 6 months later, don't look at the whole set, just look at those in the collection. The only time to go back to the zeros, 1's, or 2's is a) if you are bored and need something to fiddle with for the evening, or b) you realize that a specific pereson or other subject doesn't show up in any of the higher rated shots. 6. Try to avoid commitments in the first place! stan On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Yes, I hate digital photography! With a digital camera, I am producing to many photographs to be able to deal with. Even though I take photographs only a few days a month, they come in bursts of several hundreds, and then I don't have time to select and process them. Back in the earlier film era (20+ years), when I was shooting BW, I had a similar situation with a backlog (but on a different scale), - since I was developing and printing myself. So, I switched to slides - I was getting the film developed at a shop. (Then, when minilabs became accessible for me, I started doing color prints, - as it was easy to take the film and get the prints.) Now, I feel myself in some way similarly to the situation I had 20-some years ago (albeit on a different level of everything), - swamped with the amount of photographs taken and not having enough time to process them. Do they have a treatment for photogolism? I wonder how other people on the list deal with the photos they take, especially those who take many photos. Regards, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/31/2014 2:28 PM, Attila Boros wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:20 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps because, there are video cameras built into everything, and they no longer teach writing in school. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Seconded! Plus, there is a paradigm shift in the new generation, they don't like to read. I was asked some very technical questions lately, and offered to lend some of my books. To my surprise, my offer was turned down, in favor of some video tutorials. To me, watching someone typing and executing commands in bash is painful. It's not just the new generation. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Aug 30, 2014, at 9:05 pm, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: Pet hate videos? Unboxing new equipment videos. RGH. ...and here we have the booklet of instructions flicks through... You should watch the calculator unboxings on the Numberphile channel :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30/8/14, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: What do you know about videos? I probably know more about bicycles ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 31/8/14, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't have a problem with videos when they're obviously the right tool for the job, but more and more I keep coming across video tutorials on things like Photoshop or Lightroom which I think would be far more useful with a bit of text and some screen grabs. I find it much more difficult to follow along with a video presentation than with a well written descriptive article. Interesting point. A few years ago I needed to learn how to use DVD Studio Pro properly and considered the alternatives. After much thought I opted for a series of video tutorials - the kind with active screen in vision using a teacher's voice-over. This allowed me to pause or even replay any section, and crucially I was able to make my own notes on paper much as I would if in a classroom. Personally I find this much more useful than actually having the official provided text in front of me. Others may differ. In some cases I prefer to have the reference text, depends on the subject and how well I know it. In most cases what I am particularly interested in is workflow relevant to my interest rather than all the possible workflows that can be achieved. This isn't to say that this can't be achieved by the written word - far from it! But in this case the video was my preferred option, and I'm glad I did it -well worth the money (Lynda.com) and I was able to achieve my own workflow very quickly in authoring DVDs for my clients. YMMV :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/30/2014 6:37 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv: On 29/8/14, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: Flaming hell! Why does everything these days have to be a video? Doesn't anyone actually write articles any more? That entirely depends on the quality of the video presentation. Actually the smartphone hacks video was fine, but I muted the soundtrack, which I often do. The problem with most videos like this are poorly presented with unnecessary titles sequences and laborious commentary that drags on and on and on and on. I'm more than happy not to watch them. Amongst the worst videos that sadly sometimes must be watched in order to gain an understanding of how to fix something, are those made by backroom staff for things like replacing parts on white goods etc. By the end of the video I'm, chewing off my legs. Got to replace an over thermostat shortly so imagine my surprise when I found this humble video - very well done! Amateurs take note! Better: a transcript underneath just for Brian ;-) http://www.espares.co.uk/advice/0/1428/how-to-replace-an-oven- thermostat-in-an-elect Yes, but does he have to start every second sentence with Now? (sorry, I've just got out of bed and I'm a bit grumpy until I've finished my first coffee...) I don't have a problem with videos when they're obviously the right tool for the job, but more and more I keep coming across video tutorials on things like Photoshop or Lightroom which I think would be far more useful with a bit of text and some screen grabs. I find it much more difficult to follow along with a video presentation than with a well written descriptive article. It's a lot easier to pause that well written descriptive article if you need to try to do what has just been explained so that you can understand it. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Perhaps because, there are video cameras built into everything, and they no longer teach writing in school. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. On 8/28/2014 5:51 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: http://twistedsifter.com/videos/smartphone-photography-hacks/ Flaming hell! Why does everything these days have to be a video? Doesn't anyone actually write articles any more? -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Actually, the research is waiting to be done, but a lot of people (including me) think we are producing generations with better writing skills than in the last few centuries. For many generations, the only thing anyone wrote in a typical life was book reviews in school, reports for their boss, and maybe some letters. Since some time in the nineties, a high proportion of communication, in particular young people’s communication, has been in writing. You may not think SMS messages are good or careful writing, but they are writing. How do you get good at ANYTHING? Practice practice practice. On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 11:20 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps because, there are video cameras built into everything, and they no longer teach writing in school. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. On 8/28/2014 5:51 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: http://twistedsifter.com/videos/smartphone-photography-hacks/ Flaming hell! Why does everything these days have to be a video? Doesn't anyone actually write articles any more? -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- - Tim Bray (If you’d like to send me a private message, see https://keybase.io/timbray) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:20 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps because, there are video cameras built into everything, and they no longer teach writing in school. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Seconded! Plus, there is a paradigm shift in the new generation, they don't like to read. I was asked some very technical questions lately, and offered to lend some of my books. To my surprise, my offer was turned down, in favor of some video tutorials. To me, watching someone typing and executing commands in bash is painful. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If you compare the writing, in the letters home,from the average Civil war soldier, to the writing capability of the average J school graduate, from the last 20 years, it's plain we have been raising a couple of generations of illiterates. It's only gotten worse. Hell I had to look up how to spell soldier, and my writing style on this list is especially sloppy. I used to be regularly published by a newspaper, that just 10 years before I contributed to them, would have looked st a sample of my writing, and laughed me out of their office. But, that's just me. Most of the literate and I do mean literate in the 19th century had no more than a 6th grand education, yet, they wrote and understood, at what today would be College and post graduate levels. You don't need research to know that, all you really need to do is read some historical documents. Besides which, you're wrong about how much writing people did until quite recently, it wasn't until after the third quarter of the 20th century that long distance telephone calls were inexpensive enough to be the regular method of keeping in touch with distant friends and relatives. Letter writing was the preferred method, the post office used to make a great deal of money on first class mail. On 8/31/2014 2:26 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Actually, the research is waiting to be done, but a lot of people (including me) think we are producing generations with better writing skills than in the last few centuries. For many generations, the only thing anyone wrote in a typical life was book reviews in school, reports for their boss, and maybe some letters. Since some time in the nineties, a high proportion of communication, in particular young people’s communication, has been in writing. You may not think SMS messages are good or careful writing, but they are writing. How do you get good at ANYTHING? Practice practice practice. On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 11:20 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps because, there are video cameras built into everything, and they no longer teach writing in school. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. On 8/28/2014 5:51 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: http://twistedsifter.com/videos/smartphone-photography-hacks/ Flaming hell! Why does everything these days have to be a video? Doesn't anyone actually write articles any more? -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/31/2014 2:28 PM, Attila Boros wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:20 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps because, there are video cameras built into everything, and they no longer teach writing in school. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Seconded! Plus, there is a paradigm shift in the new generation, they don't like to read. I was asked some very technical questions lately, and offered to lend some of my books. To my surprise, my offer was turned down, in favor of some video tutorials. To me, watching someone typing and executing commands in bash is painful. It's been so long since I used bash that it's painful just to think about it. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
