Re: CSMSM
CS hasn't failed to clear the flu overnight. We don't have a nebuliser but it works also with larger droplets mixed, like a cool mist room vaporiser, the spinning/rotor type. all good, Duncan
CSsilver and selenium
Selenium is depleted by silver and any other metals that must be removed. Selenium is crucial to antioxidant status and glutathione formation, and when glutathione is low one always sees disease. The USDA says North American adults would benefit by 150 mcg daily, and when we're sick or in the presence of heavy metals including arsenic or silver we usually need more because of the depletion they cause. SO, if some members of the silver group are not taking selenium, they should be. all good, Duncan Crow One of Curezone.com's Best Health Sites :) http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 10:19:28 PM Subject: RE: CSintroduction and request for help Oops, I'd better stick my hand up here and add to that in case taking Selenium is considered critical and/or a prerequisite with silver intake...I don't, and never have, taken Selenium in conjunction with silver, and my fingernails haven't fallen off yet, neither have I, my fingernail moons, or my eyeballs turned any colour of the rainbow. Not having a go or anything you understand, just thought I should add that little correction cos not 'all' of us here take Selenium. I'll spare everyone though and refrain from airing my opinion on Selenium being co-joined with silver intake g. N.
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit: In March 2009 his suit against the government for disclosure of its role in the development of AIDS was accepted. The Justice Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the case. Soon after, his health began to deteriorate. The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in having a certain AIDS cure tested clinically. This was Tetracyl, a silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the HIV virus. The efficiency of this treatment has not been researched. Some patients have reported eradication of the virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded. After March Graves continued to lose ground. He tried another injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive. He had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20. Valiently putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus medications. Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent caretaker-boys took him to the hospital. Next morning he was intubated, comatose, and incommunicado. Thursday morning his sister called and said he had an intractable lung infection. He was to be put on comfort care at 2:30, meaning life support would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied. He died that afternoon.
Re: CSOT question?
Cholesterol and dyslipidemia are improved by maintaining HGH growth hormone level at a more youthful release for a few months. This also reverses metabolic syndrome or syndrome X and brings up a dozen or more youth markers as it anti-ages a person. There's quite a bit of data here, including the reversing of several age-related illnesses: http://tinyurl.com/SomaLife-gHP My wife and I also take pregnenolone, which supplies hormonal building blocks for us to incorporate along with the youthful HGH release. An anti-aging program rebuilds tissues and adequate nutrition is even more important during this anabolic phase. It's working; my wife's age is usually guessed at 31, but she's 48. Duncan Crow http://tinyurl.com/duncancrow __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBuild a powerful colloidal silver maker with free parts
This CS maker is capable of continuous operation at about 120 quarts per hour @ ~15 PPM. The high-volume plague-ready electro colloidal silver maker can easily be built in less than an hour using a free microwave oven, some wire and a few bits of plastic. All you buy is the perishable part -- a Canadian $5 fine silver coin. Get it rolled out at a jewelers/goldsmiths. I've built a couple dozen of these for local people in the last eight years or so. I don't send them via freight, but many others around the world including third-world countries have built copies and have been completely satisfied with the speed and quality of output and ease of operation. Some are producing quite a lot of CS every month for a large market. Let's hear from some of you if you are on this list. Per moderator Mike Devour's request, I have removed all sales information from the page, and here's the DISCLAIMER: Don't ask for a diagram. Get an electrician or electronics hobbyist to first bleed the capacitor charge, which can be a LETHAL amount of current. The dangerous part is in the construction, not the use of the beast, and be stupid at your own risk. http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/colloidal_silver.html FYI: Removing the electrode from the jar of CS does NOT pose a risk, as the circuit is still completed by the solution after the unit shuts off, grounding the capacitor. all good, Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/ __ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CS Need a CS generator
Sandy; this CS generator costs only whatever your silver electrode costs, about $25 CAD. It is capable of contunous operation and it makes about 2 quarts per minute: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/colloidal_silver.html all good, Duncan Hello Everyone... I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you need several things I'm not sure about. Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one? I'd greatly appreciate it. Best regards... Sandy from Texas __ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: adhesion sites (MSM?)
Bacterial adhesion sites have less to do with sulphur than specific sugar molecules, many of which are mentioned in my article on Adhesion Sites: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/undenatured-whey-reduces-adhesion.html I'd like to see the MSM research on the subject though, if it exists, anyone? all good, Duncan MSM competes for binding receptor sites at the mucus membrane surface and therefore discourages infections __ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDrink Water On An Empty Stomach
Even one glass of water hinders many of my elderly clients' ability to eat a full meal so I advise them to rehydrate between meals instead annd just sip with the meal ;) Duncan --- ccdirectt ccdire...@yahoo.com wrote: In the Water Cure book he says to drink 2 cups of water 30 min before eating.That takes a lot of stress off the liver. --- Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDrink Water On An Empty Stomach Bunkum! Since I had to quit drinking coffee, I drink 2 cups of water in the mornings instead - 18 ounce cups. It has not slowed my arthritis or excess fatness. The rest of the diseases mentioned, I don't have, so can't speak for them. I agree it is a healthy practice, but to cure all. Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California aera...@gmail.com Hi Gayla, I 100% agree. There are so many protocols out there that claim to cure this and that, but if true, we would no longer have those illnesses still around. My thoughts on the water is that it is a good thing for constipation especially to drink first thing in the morning. Kind of like flushing out everything before putting anything else in the colon, and it really works. When combined with salt, I have found the minerals in the salt along with the water does go a long way with pain issues. Probably because some pain is more from dehydration so drinking a lot of water would help. Now will this cure arthritis? Probably not, but if one is dehydrated along with having arthritis, then it should help. Gail Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Gatorade?
Hi Dan; I know some people are sensitive to foods and additives; that said, like millions of others, my fianceé, my parents, myself and my sister use sucralose without incident. Not that I recommend it, but that's the way it is. My fiancee prefers Powerade though because it has nearly a 1:1 sodium:potassium ratio, and Gatorade has 3:1. Duncan --- Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: that is listed as one of the side effects of splenda. On Mar 13, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Dan Nave wrote: One of my elderly relatives had intractable diarrhea which turned out to be from Splenda, a low calorie sweetening product... She was fine when she stopped eating things with Splenda in it. Dan From: JD Kalloco [mailto:kall...@gmail.com] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
CSabout strengthening the lungs
The lungs are the third biggest users of glutathione, the master antioxidant and detoxifier. Precursors for it are rich in undenatured whey. Take it with selenium, especially if you have low or no selenium and traces of arsenic in the groundwater like most of North America does. I've got rid of asthma, colds and even COPD using techniques like that in addition to using silver. Duncan Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSomalifeGHP
Dee, What I do have is a couple of dozen interviews with the doctor who was on the research team that did the in-vivo clinical studies on SomaLife gHP and a hundred other HGH-soundalikes. That's where he discusses the 30 ng/ml of HGH increase that is necessary for the surge of regeneration that most products fail to accomplish. You know the date-rape drug GHB? It triggers HGH release to the tune of about 13 times resting levels with each dose. Valued also as a a social lubricant, it's cheap, about $200 a quart. This black-market product is about $1 per dose, while SomaLife gHP which is legal is about $3 a dose. I'm keeping abreast of news of other alternatives, with the criteria that they must trigger HGH release by a factor of 5 or more to hit 30 ng/ml with each dose rather than elevating resting levels by 1.6 over a period of weeks like some do. Also, I don't want products that play with testosterone levels; I prefer those to fall into line on their own, so, significantly, that my female clients don't get too hairy or net behavioural issues that testosterone increase brings. Duncan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSSomalifeGHP
From direct experience on myself, with my family, on several friends, and about 90 clients, I know SomaLife gHP works. It's grown back hair in the right color, thickened thinning skin, body mass and fitness, well-being and libido, and even rejuvenated some of the older girls so they started menstruating again. The basic clinical research is still on my site; Gooogling somalife clinical references turns up my page as #1, and scrolling down the page to the Isidori study turns up the actual indisputable clinical data on amino acids increasing HGH and IGF-1. What's wrong with the picture that the opponents paint is that using impure amino acids and/or incorrect dosing or ratio doesn't work very well. These 3 factors when present result in 95% success, and that's what we're seeing. Amino acids are preferentially absorbed, they compete with each other, so you can see the need for purity; the dosage and ratio are absolutely needed to promote HGH release at the low dose SomaLife provides. Otherwise you need a very high dose. Try dissolving SomaLife gHP in water; nothing happens! Then try any other amino acid cocktail and the water turns brown. These are partially digested meat proteins that ruin the experiment. Many merchants try to cover this up by adding other junk or vitamins that color the water anyway. Remember, the pure stuff does not dissolve, and that acidity is required to dissolve it. Duncan Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
CSRe: SomaLife gHP (from experience)
Dee (and all) -- From direct experience on myself, with my family, on several friends, and about 90 clients, I know SomaLife gHP works. It's grown back hair in the right color, thickened thinning skin, corrected body mass, well-being, energy recovery and libido, and even rejuvenated some of the older girls enough so they started menstruating again. The basic clinical research is still on my site; Gooogling somalife clinical references turns up my page as #1, and scrolling down the page to the Isidori study turns up the actual indisputable clinical data on amino acids increasing HGH and IGF-1. What's wrong with the picture that the opponents paint is that using impure amino acids and/or incorrect dosing or ratio doesn't work very well. These 3 factors when present result in 95% success, and that's what we're seeing. Amino acids are preferentially absorbed, they compete with each other, so you can see the need for purity; the dosage and ratio are absolutely needed to promote HGH release at the low dose SomaLife provides. Otherwise you need a very high dose. Try dissolving SomaLife gHP in water; nothing happens! Then try any other amino acid cocktail and the water turns brown. These are partially digested meat proteins that ruin the experiment. Many merchants try to cover this up by adding other junk or vitamins that color the water anyway. Remember, the pure stuff does not dissolve, and that acidity is required to dissolve it. Duncan Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re[2]: CSAlzheimer's disease
One might think by the study that there is no alzheimers in regions that don't have Borrelia Burgdorferi then, right? Anyway, look into oxidative stress; I have had the research on my site for several years. What it boils down to is that glutathione breaks down oxidative stress from all sources as well as reduces infection of all types. Duncan On 24 Nov 2007 at 7:47, Hanneke wrote: Kurt, I would be interested in seeing a reference to this recent study. Alzheimer's 'runs' in our family - on my mum's side, the FAD (Familial Alzheimer's Disease) and appears to have a clear genetic component to it. I have lost my grandma, my mum, 2 uncles and, only this week, my own brother - 59, to this disease. Deterioration of brain functions involving memory can have many different causes, but not all dementia is Alzheimer's. Although there appears to be still a lot of uncertainties and un- knows with regard to this disease, the slow developing form more often than not begins at an earlier age. For all of my relatives it started to manifest in their early forties. Hanneke At 02:09 AM 24/11/2007, you wrote: Well apparently in a recent study 100 out of 100 alzhiemers patients tested positve for Borrelia Burgdorferi, post mortum. Some of the scientists studying this also believe that the plaques that develope on the patients brains are from Bb. Throw in flouride, aluminum, mercury, and whatever else the bugs seem to like and try and figure it all out. To me it seems fairly obvious, in light of the recent study. Kurt Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt is lyme the only thing that causes dementia/alzhiemers? thanks much debbie Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Well seems when treated for lyme the demetia/alzhiemers does get better.Hm. Kurt Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Zoe, What would you advise for the aging that are showing signs of dementia? thanks in advance debbie...send it to me privately if you wish. zoe w ilovegra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Alzheimers is just one form of dementia but they are all being misnamed under that blanket recently. Alzheimers cannot be diagnosed except by autopsy- we can guess because of the symptoms. There are as you suspected many possible causes for dementia Multi-Infarct ( series of strokes) is just one of them, drug and.or alcohol abuse being another. Head injuries in which unconsciousness occurs is another one. It doesn't really matter, what causes the dementia, be it Alzheimers or any other, the result is exactly the same. Treatments may differ according to the cause, but the effect is always the same. Dementia causes an erasing of the memory beginning with the present and working its way backwards. Multi-task sequencing becomes difficult and eventually impossible, communication skills are impaired, the ability to take care of ones daily needs , no matter how simple becomes a very difficult if not impossible task. Brain tumors can also cause dementia, some are operable, some are not, but this should be ruled out before proceeding with any type of dementia treatment. zoe thank you Kathryn. Clayton Family wrote: One thought I had was that there was an essay for the NY Times written by a dr, the head of the autopsy dept at Johns Hopkins. His mom had altzheimer's diagnosis before she passed away, but it turned out that she did not have it- she had a series of small strokes that mimiced the other. It is entirely possible that there are numerous conditions that manifest as the series of symptoms that are known as Alzheimers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1147 - Release Date: 23/11/2007 9:19 AM
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease
Dee, Undenatured whey is indeed a valuable part of the protocol I use for Alzheimer's and other oxidative stress diseases. It is backed by the references I've had on my site for years :) on my glutathione references page. See my neurodegenerative illnesses protocol for the rest, first link on my website. Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/ On 20 Nov 2007 at 12:53, Dee wrote: I was just wondering if maybe the undenatured whey might help with this, but it would take someone like Duncan to know this. Dee ---Original Message--- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSKnee problems
What I did was get people on a Cetylmyristoleate blend called Everlasting (Collastin) and Everlasting Support; even a three month program is guaranteed. The short of it is that 18 out of 22 responded, four removed knee braces, one removed two knee braces and also gave her wheelchair back to the Red Cross. I understand that CMO and Collastin are not identical but some people do respond to the synthetic version. Duncan On 19 Nov 2007 at 14:58, Tad Winiecki wrote: My knee was injured Jan 07 and re-injured several times with swelling above the knee and pain on the inner side of the knee as well. I found swishing a tablespoon or 2 of MSM helpful, and my knee is finally getting stronger since I started taking the Nature's Way version of Dr. Christopher's Bone Flesh Cartilage formula and eating the Budwig Protocol diet starting in October- vegetarian with Flaxseed oil blended with cottage cheese or yogurt a couple of times a day, Flaxseeds in juice, freshly juiced vegetables and fruits, coconut oil, lots of salads and lightly cooked vegetables, buckwheat, millet, rice, and quinoa grains. I can't really tell which did the strenghtening. I also feel more energetic. Nancy On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:39 AM, William Missett wrote: I've just recovered from severe knee damage -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSKnee problems
Ted, I have issues with the flax oil and cottage cheese in the Budwig diet; see the revision here, the references and the reasoning for changing both the flax oil and the cottage cheese. http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/Budwig-diet-revision.html Duncan Crow On 19 Nov 2007 at 14:58, Tad Winiecki wrote: My knee was injured Jan 07 and re-injured several times with swelling above the knee and pain on the inner side of the knee as well. I found swishing a tablespoon or 2 of MSM helpful, and my knee is finally getting stronger since I started taking the Nature's Way version of Dr. Christopher's Bone Flesh Cartilage formula and eating the Budwig Protocol diet starting in October- vegetarian with Flaxseed oil blended with cottage cheese or yogurt a couple of times a day, Flaxseeds in juice, freshly juiced vegetables and fruits, coconut oil, lots of salads and lightly cooked vegetables, buckwheat, millet, rice, and quinoa grains. I can't really tell which did the strenghtening. I also feel more energetic. Nancy On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:39 AM, William Missett wrote: I've just recovered from severe knee damage -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDuncan please
Hi Dee, Blockbuster All Clear capsules are vegetable gelatin; BlockBuster All Clear itself is a vegetarian-OK blend of enzymes. Duncan On 28 Oct 2007 at 9:20, Dee wrote: Can you tell me what the BlockBuster All Clear enzyme capsules are made of please Duncan, as I can't seem to find it. Many thanks, Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnimal dead yeast
Gail, the no-yeast candida myth has been busted ;) I did the search and found that science established long ago that proteins in yeast cell walls have such similar components that candida doesn't eat it, just as it doesn't eat its own kind. Live yeast uses this natural candida immunity to good effect; it outcompetes candida and is used in anti-candida probiotic for that reason. SOME broken cell wall debris thrown off by high temp cooking can probably be used by candida and other organisms in a dysbiosis condition but it won't amount to much. You're controlling the dysbiosis and the candida anyway in a program so you can ignore yeast unless you propose to use very high-volume processed yeast smoothies, which would supply a bit more food by sheer weight. By using inulin at the same time you control the dysbiosis anyway. Actual practice by many on the candidasis list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/candidiasis backs the science. Duncan On 25 Oct 2007 at 16:26, Gail Naranjo wrote: Patriot, How does dead yeast build the immune system. I'm assuming this is NOT something for somebody with candida??? thanks, gail __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmetal detox and cs
I did some digging on the it as few years ago and saw the heavy metals and silver I think were all found to deplete the master detoxifier glutathione and selenium, the metal in this enzyme, if that's what you're looking for. Duncan On 10 Sep 2007 at 21:44, Dianne France wrote: Hello all, We are new to the group and cs but have a question I was hoping someone could answer. My husband and I have just recently been introduced to cs and have ordered a generator (silverpuppy) to make our own. We also have started with a natural doctor and have started a heavy metal detox. Will this detox effect or contradict benefits of taking cs during this period of detoxing? The doctor said it could take months to a year to completely detox if that is even possible. Dianne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPOTASSIUM, Main Stream Information is BOGUS
Jodi, I agree; I and others who use No Salt take more than 1,000 mg per sitting without ill effect. Many are on the candidiasis list. Duncan On 9 Sep 2007 at 15:33, Jodi wrote: Jodi wrote: Then I started giving him 1000 mg. of potassium whenever it would occur, and that stopped the cramping in its tracks. Wayne wrote: This sounds like a very foolish thing to do PERIOD ! I have taken near an 18 wheeler load of vitamins, minerals, dozens of protein supplements and other things. And... I would not take 1000 mg per dose. Jodi writes now: I can't tell anyone to take as much as I have. I've been told I tend to test limits and take things to the extreme. All I can tell you is that the only downside I had to swallowing 1000 mg. in one dose, on an empty stomach is that it sent me to the bathroom. Taking 500 to 600 mg. at a time does not. Seems very interesting to me that there are no maximum dosage warnings on a container of NoSalt (Salt Alternative), which is sold over the counter in grocery stores. That is potassium chloride at 650 mg. per 1/4 teaspoon. Do you realize how quickly and easily one can sprinkle this stuff to make a quarter teaspoon or more? There is only one warning on the bottle, but that is directed at those with heart or kidney disease, advising them to consult a doctor before consuming, probably because those with heart disease are already prescribed pharmaceutical potassium, and kidney disease causes an excess amount of potassium circulating in the blood. But, for the rest of us, it is apparently safe to sprinkle 'freely'. So, if someone sits down and eats a meal of 2 or 3 potatoes sprinkled with NoSalt (potassium chloride), almonds, black strap molasses, a couple of bananas and some OJ, they would be consuming WAY more than even 1500 mg. of potassium within, maybe 20 minutes?! I never took that much that quickly, but I bet some have and do without even realizing it, and with no negative effect. Jodi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Minimizing Herx reactions- recipe
Since Herx is mainly a response to toxin load, and the chief breaker of toxins is glutathione the master antioxidant, (and the other antioxidants too) I'd suggest undenatured whey and selenium, the glutathione precursors as a minimum. On the candidiasis list many ladies are reducing their Herx by using precautions like this plus Homozon for oxygen delivery etc. The list had discussed glyconutrient pudding, which does that and more. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPOTASSIUM, Main Stream Information is BOGUS
Similar drivel runs continuously from the candidasupport moderator, but members of the candidiasis group who replaced their excess sodium salt with potassium and increased potassium- rich vegetable intake are recovering faster due to their increased alkalinity. I send lots of people to Dick Loyd's archive of these Dr. Haltiwanger's documents on the electrical nature of cells: http://RoyalRife.com/haltiwanger.html It takes a lot of potassium to effect a change because there's something like 30-50 times the potassium in cells as sodium, and an awful lot of cells to optimize. Duncan On 9 Sep 2007 at 6:38, CWFugitt wrote: This sound like a BOGUS MAINSTREAM WORTHLESS WARNING ! or worse WARNING: Potassium is NOT a mineral to fool around with or experiment with as a dietary supplement! It is one of the main electrolytes in the body and you can get a HEART ATTACK from an overdose. Potassium is one of the drugs that heart surgeons use to stop the heart during heart surgery. The BALANCE of daily intake between potassium and sodium is VITAL. Most people get too much sodium in their diet, REDUCE sodium to the required amounts and INCREASE intake of potassium rich FOODS. Potassium supplements can be a benefit, but it should not substitute a healthy diet. As my teachers said many years ago, .. When you mother says, All the boys like Spinach, tell her to NAME 3. I know many main stream nurses, doctors, and pharmacists that do not have the brains of a 10 year old idiot relative to potassium. No pharmacists yet has been able to tell me how much potassium is in a 10 MEG tablet. Then I started giving him 1000 mg. of potassium whenever it would occur, and that stopped the cramping in its tracks. This sounds like a very foolish thing to do PERIOD ! I have taken near an 18 wheeler load of vitamins, minerals, dozens of protein supplements and other things. And... I would not take 1000 mg per dose. It would take a real genius to take several smaller doses ... BEFORE the Cramps. Darn, it has been a long time since the days of the cave man. First, I say, If anyone has cramps because of no potassium, .. Let them hurt ! One will have a hard time eating enough celery, bell peppers, raw squash, cantaloupe, watermelon, raw corn, tomatoes, ect to get too much potassium. Try eating enough raw almonds to get a potassium overdose, or black strap molasses. These two foods are higher than a banana. People get an overdose or water, wine, beer, whiskey, coffee, ice cream, pie, junk food every day. I would guess that an overdoes of alcohol kills about 5 million times more people than an overdose of potassium has killed since the beginning of time. Yes, that is a bogus Mainstream warning for Mainstream Nurses, Doctors, and Pharmacists, .. not for people with Half a Brain, and a tenth grade education. Read it and believe it or read it a weep. If you think the warning is worth the paper is printed on, . I hope you get an overdose before dark. Just two or three overdoses, and they will remove this from the market. Likely they are thinking of ways to do it already. And I know, . you can buy prescription potassium by the pound. It cost very little. I have a friend that is a millionaire. He bitches about the cost of prescription potassium. Mr Humble mentioned the woman that mixed a few drops of MMS with a half cup of vinegar. Yes, she drank that. and wished she had an overdoes of something else. He said he told her clearly, several times how to mix the stuff. I have talked to pharmacists about potassium. They know virtually nothing, and what little they know is brainwashing by then mainstream. I about FED UP with stupid doctors, nurses, pharmacists, and Common People. They can bury their head in the sand, or read and believe the mainstream. If the flu epidemic hits, any MMS I have will be about 50 dollars a drop or I will watch them lay there and DIE ! And many will. My first message of the day. They may get worse as the day progresses. Don't bother disagreeing. My mind is made up, after about 300,000 hours of study. How long have you studied to justify any disagreement ? So what if I am a wee bit wrong. I am never 1/1000 th as wrong as the mainstream. Wayne = --- Many people would sooner die than think. In fact they do. http://www.miraclemineral.org/ Silver file Area... http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ MDI Subscribe Email mdi_news-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are
Re: CSPotasisum
I agree with potassium supplementation and I don't agree with bananas as a food at all, too high carb. If you eat a banana it contains enough carbs to reduce your immune response by half for up to five hours. Adrenal fatigue is usually brought on by toxin load, the same load that will often reduce thyroid at the same time. ANY stressor jacks adrenal output, including mineral deficiency. When we make an effort to reduce toxin load and other stressors and become more aerobic, these stress hormones usually normalize. Potassium increase and salt reduction is part of the treatment on the candidaisis list regardless of whether they have symptoms of chronic stress or not, and they get better anyway, so we must be doing something the writer hadn't thought of. Duncan On 9 Sep 2007 at 12:42, Gail Naranjo wrote: I know many main stream nurses, doctors, and pharmacists that do not have the brains of a 10 year old idiot relative to potassium. Something else to think about regarding lack is, dehydration. Many have it and don't even know, for which the first thing you get (if hospitalized) is an IV with potassium. Just to add to the pot. Can't even remember the name of the guy who wrote the book about adrenal fatigue says adding potassium for one that has adrenal fatigue makes it worse. An easy enough test if you think you might suffer from this, eat a banana and see if it weakens you. After the adrenals are repaired, potassium is then allowed back in the diet. Wish I had the book with me but lent it to my daughter or I would look up what all he said about it. Just some interesting tidbit but also important if suffering from AF, which according to the author, most are! Gail Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: dissolving tumours
Also, the first document on the glutathione references page is a peer-reviewed compilation of case studies that reduced cancer with undenatured whey alone. http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html I'd also use GEIPE if I could get the cancer into the path of the current. And ozonated olive oil if that's appropriate. Duncan On 30 Aug 2007 at 14:52, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: On 8/30/2007 2:39:41 PM, leslie (leslie1...@windstream.net) wrote: How do you dissolve; cancer or not. I have been thinking DMSO but not sure that will do it. What can I do naturally? Leslie Join the group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blacksalveandpetswithcancer/ You'll find out how. Chuck If you think there is good in everybody then you obviously haven't met everybody. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS4 things our body needs that does not produce itself
Minerals such as Selenium and 70 something others? Vitamin C in addition to antioxidant duties is required for crosslinking collagen strands prior to laying down bone. Duncan On 12 Jul 2007 at 17:43, Marshall Dudley wrote: Leslie wrote: I read this somewhere and was wondering if off the list?? The four things that our bodies need but does not produce. One is water, one is sea salt, one is Iodine and I forgot the other one. Duh. One of the symptoms of mercury poisoning is short term memory! Leslie I can think of at least two more. Food and oxygen. I am not sure iodine was broken out, all the necessary minerals, including iodine, are required but not produced by the body. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre Liquid Zeolite FAQ and links/Duncan Crow and All
Thanks, BB, but the copy on these sites does not answer questions that relate to zeolite data. I had hoped that supportive data would be prominently displayed; maybe I just couldn't find it. Duncan On 27 Jun 2007 at 22:53, bbanever wrote: Folks, Here are some links to answer your questions on liquid zeolite. I hope this helps. I'm still trying to locate the study using NCD (zeolite) to detox from DU. I will post when I get it. http://www.liquidzeolite.org/ http://www.zeoliteinfo.com/ http://www.zeoliteautismstudy.com/home/ http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james48.htm - Original Message - From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca To: Smitty papad...@gmail.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: homozon/mercury poisoning I also found enough caution to deter me from getting in on the ground floor of zeolite marketing. In my view it could be beneficial to some people but I note that many healthy people have never been exposed to zeolite. Moreover, we can cure disease without it quite readily with supps and approaches we know more about. Duncan On 27 Jun 2007 at 7:35, Smitty wrote: I googled Zeolite and found this = http://www.cqs.com/zeolite.htm any thoughts on this negative slant ? Smitty On 6/27/07, bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: Leslie, The absolute best way to detox from mercury or other heavy metals is with liquid Zeolite IMO. It worked like a miracle for me I was poisoned after having an amalgam filling removed. I thought I was losing my mind I used PCA Rx which did help but after several weeks and three bottles I still had residual effects and didn't know what to do. Jim Howenstein MD told be to use zeolite and it worked like a charm I took 10 drops three times a day for two weeks after five days I felt completely normal although I completed the two weeks. Unfortunately, it is sold via MLM but please don't let that deter you this stuff is worth it's weight in gold. Here is a link if you want more info or to purchase... or just Google it. http://my.waiora.com/home.php?950148 Best of luck to you. Bob - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: homozon I am somewhat confused as to the best way to detox mercury from my body. Am I thinking right about getting ozone in my body will do this completely, or rather the best way to go about this? Poisoned with mercury! Thanks, Leslie - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:53 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: homozon Oxygen IS the free radical. Oxygen wants very much to be a molecule of 2 Oxygen atoms [O2] When it's in a unstable compound in an unbalance state like in Hydrogen Peroxide [H2O2 ] and Ozone [O3] there is that extra oxygen that will join another one making O2 as a part of that molecule burning it, or sucking an Oxygen atom off virtually anything it contacts, especially organic molecules. O3 [Ozone] will rot the tires right off your car. H2O2 burns germs AND everything else. That's why 100% H2O2 is as dangerous as any strong acid. In the body, it's probably other radical configurations that do damage but the mechanism is probably the same, based on the same principle. If one radical meets another but different radical, there will be a battle over which molecule winds up with that extra Oxygen atom. Could also be neither and an O2 molecule released. Both will be changed one way or another. Changed into *what*, is the question. Is that *what* what you want, or something you don't? What sort of other seek and destroy mission happens when there are too many of either? I can see where just the right amount of O3 or H2O2 introduced into the body could be a benefit, both by scavenging free radicals there and by killing off weaker cells to stimulate growth of new ones to replace them...but.. over doing it could also be big trouble. A cancer cell and a cell undergoing DNA changes due to a virus invasion is generally weaker than an accurately made one and I can imagine that healthy cells are pretty resilient...like a tire. So, imagine cleaning bug juice off your tires with a sand blaster. The tire won't be shiny when you get done, rough raw rubber with some of the good rubber gone...but it will be very clean and ready for an application of 'tire shine' . 'Oxygen' != (does
Re: CSZeolite questions/anybody
Gail, I found out in the research that Zeolite is primarily aluminum silicate, much like Bentonite clay, and like clay there exists several variations with differing properties. Some of the properties will be good, some bad, and some unknown in the body, and there have been attempts to apply these properties to sewage and to animal feed. Duncan On 28 Jun 2007 at 10:19, Gail Naranjo wrote: Dear List, This is the first time I've even considered zeolite and have a few questions. Does anybody know if there are any precautions with using the product? I did notice on one of the websites I was looking at it said not to use if one was taking platinum or lithium. Does anybody know about that? Also, I am wondering is this in the same line as activated charcoal? If so, does activated charcoal cleanse the bottle of mercury? Lastly, Jason, is it the plastic the zeolite is contained it that concerns you or the actually product? If it's only the plastic, would restoring it in a glass bottle be sufficient to ward off any negative effects? TIA, Gail Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: protocols for congestive heart failure (CHF)
HGH builds and improves the heart muscle, improving cardiac output in congestive heart failure or after some heart muscle has died off after a heart attack, just as it improves the whole body, glands, organs and all. SomaLife gHP increases HGH secretion to maximum youthful values with each dose, resulting in increased healing over a period of 3- 6 months or so. Benefits can continue to accumulate using a SomaLife gHP program, for about 2-2.5 years. HGH shots work too; they are the choice of the well-heeled and some anti-aging doctors, but correct dosing/frequency requires careful attention. While nutrition is of course important, HGH is the right tool for this job because it is an absolute requirement for lean tissue rehabilitation, muscle tone and growth, and people with age- related disorders such as CHF, weak immune response, kidney failure, etc, have those disorders primarily because their HGH secretion is falling naturally with age. I have been into anti-aging subjects since about 1991; some of the studies on cardiac output, metabolic and age-related complaints, osteoporosis, renal failure, arthritis, fibromyalgia etc, and how these age-related and HGH deficiency illnesses and other aging symptoms can be treated, can be found at the following link. A lot of people fail on circulation, and many elderly people have benefited by a program of metabolic enzymes that improve microcirculation by reducing blood coagulation, clotting, plaque, organ fibrosis etc. It almost goes without saying that at a cellular level, good microcirculation is a requirement for waste removal and nutrient and oxygen delivery (thus recovery). The combination of BlockBuster All Clear enzymes to reduce the circulatory impairment and doing a 10-minute sit bounce on a mini trampoline every day is doable by everybody. The mini-tramp can move lymph 14 times better than jogging, and an acidic and stagnant lymph is a huge obstacle to a healing program. Chronically high blood pressure, a cause of CHF, can be high for several reasons, most of them dietary; we can discuss these elsewhere. But in the end it's the low antioxidant pool in combination with the reduced ability to repair that accumulates cardiac damage. In the order to avoid damage, the heart requires quite a lot of antioxidants, especially CoQ10 and glutathione, both of which are used in the energy creation process so the heart muscle can twitch at all :) as well as being the main antioxidant protection against cell death and tissue weakness. Low glutathione is the main cause of oxidative stress, which is a condition of systemically low antioxidant levels accompanied by with local depletions (as seen also in cardiac, joint and bowel disorders). I have a reference section on glutathione here: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/SomaLife-gHP On 23 Jun 2007 at 12:50, Charles Marcus wrote: My father and my partner both suffer from CHF (Dad was diagnosed 2 weeks ago, Guy a number of years ago). Guy also suffers from IILD. See my prior post on Dr Schulze and Haqwthorne - this is exactly what he had, if memory serves. I would immediatley get on his program for heart health and his lung formula. In fact, I would do his entire program if I had any serious health problem. These herbal formulas are the most potent you can find commercially, and are all made from organically grown and/or wild-harvested herbs harvested at the appropriate time in their growth cycle. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSalt/C Protocol / Blood Pressure
Dee, the group to watch for digestion issues is candidasis, a vibrant group, 4300 strong. Here's our protocol for bowel disorders, including digestion, Crohn's and colitis in addition to bowel candida. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidiasis/message/53369 Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow On 18 Jun 2007 at 20:05, ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, Dee, Thanks for your reply, I suppose this does go with general health problems rather than strictly with Cs. But I do use CS and have a Silvergen generator, so I guess I just wasn't thinking . Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Dee d...@deetroy.org Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSalt/C Protocol / Blood Pressure Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:13:57 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) You're right Ruth, and this is why this list is so helpful, although strictly speaking it is OT again. I don't really know why this happens, because lettuce is really 'scouring' for most people and even rabbits which lay people always think is the food for them, (although I know it isn't) as I said, my husband can only eat a ten pence size bit of lettuce or the results are disastrous! Bananas shouldn't be constipating because they are high fibre' but everything like this is for me. Normally, my system works fine; I have never, ever had diarrhoea and as long as I stick to junk food everything works fine; the minute I come over all 'healthy' it all grinds to a halt, so to speak. I was just wondering if anyone knew why, but it is interesting that lettuce etc., affects you in a similar way, especially as you have so many problems, and I, ostensibly at least, do not. Regards, Dee     --  The calender of the Theocracy of Muntab counts down, not up. No-one knows why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: Ruth strackbein Date: 18/06/2007 18:05:31 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSalt/C Protocol / Blood Pressure Hi, Dee, I have been wondering if what you are saying here, Dee, may be Contributing to my digestive problems. Speaking of fruit, I am told that Bananas are constipating. I eat quite a few of those in spite of my Constipation since one ought to eat fruit and it is one of the few that work For my upper digestive tract. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm
Re: CSThe Five Rites of Rejuvenation
IMO rejuvenation should include propping up a couple of things that conspire to mandate your planned obsolescence imposed by nature: Falling HGH levels (increasable with SomaLife gHP or HGH injections) \ Falling plasmin levels (increasable with for example BlockBuster All Clear enzymes, which contains nattokinase, serrapeptase, Seaprose S, and a couple of other enzymes) \ Falling glutathione levels (increasable with any undenatured whey and selenium) All three are hugely important, especially so over 50 years of age and in illness. I've gone into depth with references for all three on my website. I'm into longevity herbs too, but they fail to manipulate these three crucial aging and disease factors. Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow On 18 May 2007 at 15:18, William Missett wrote: I can attest to the effectiveness of these exe3rcises, and synchronistically was just preparing to resume doing them, to relieve pain from a long-standing injury which I have neglected due to the lack of a chiropractor here in Mexico. I was intoridced to them 3-4 years ago by my wife, who gave me Kelder's book, and within two weeks these exercises relieved intense back/pelvis/knee pain caused by injury resulting from a hammock rope breaking while I was sleeping. I believe they can also be found on the internet. Try googling five tibetans for results. I hate exercising, but the pain is crippling, and I'm sure doing these exercises will bring quick relief. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 1:43 PM Subject: CSThe Five Rites of Rejuvenation If anyone is interested, these are excellent exercises for health and possibly even rejuvenation. From The Eye of Revelation by Peter Kelder (about 1935) or The Ancient Secret of the Fountain of Youth or The Five Tibetans (Well, I got several requests, so I will write out the instructions for the 5 rites as I understand them. ) The Five Rites 1. Stand with the arms outstretched. Twirl around to the right (in the direction that your head turns to look at your right shoulder). 2. Lie on the floor on your back, arms at your side and legs outstretched. While keeping the small of the back on the floor so as not to strain the lower back, raise the legs up to a vertical position (keep them straight). At the same time that the legs are being raised, lift the head up so that the chin comes to the chest. Also, breathe in. Breathe out as the head and legs return to the original position. 3. Kneel on the floor. The body above the knees should be straight and vertical. Place the hands on the lower buttocks, just above the thighs. Breathe in as the head tips backwards and the back arches backwards. Keep the shoulders back, the hands on the butt, and the mouth closed. The bend is mostly in the upper trunk area. Breathe out as the head moves forward until the chin rests on the chest and the rest of the body is again upright. 4. Sit on the ground with the feet together and stretched out in front. The arms are at the sides with the palms on the floor and fingers pointing forward, in the direction of the feet. Breathe in, tip the head backwards, at the same time lift the hips off the floor and roll onto the soles of the feet. The head is tipped back, the body from neck to knees will be straight and horizontal (parallel to the floor), the arms and lower legs will be vertical, the palms and soles are touching the floor, and the toes and fingers point in the same direction. This is like the crab walk that we used to do in gym class. (Tense all the muscles of the body and release.) Breathe out and return to the starting position, but bring the head forward so that the chin touches the chest. 5. Get into the position as if you were going to do a pushup (facing the floor, with body straight, upper body supported off the ground by straight arms with the palms on the floor, fingers pointing forward, and the lower body supported by the toes and the balls of the feet.) Breathe out and bend the head backwards and let the hips drop towards the floor. The legs will be mostly parallel and close to the floor and the trunk will bend backwards and up, mostly vertical to the floor. (Tense all the muscles of the body and release.) Breathe in as the head comes forward so that the chin touches the chest and as the hips are raised up off the floor, and back. The body will form a sort of inverted V, the legs are straight, the body is bent at the hips with the hips being the highest point, the trunk and arms are straight and form a straight line. (Tense all the muscles of the body and release.) The exercises should each be done 21 times, start out with, say, 5 of each and then add one or two more repetitions a day as your body strengthens. If you have trouble with your back, be
Re: CSLate stage last-ditch cancer therapy
Johnathan, there are many remarkable recoveries connected to undenatured whey posted on my website, but I doubt these were last gasp studies. EPA and DHA in wild fish oil, and cesium chloride (High pH therapy) and to GEIPE, an electronic remedy, are the first that come to my mind; I hope buddy can still keep food remedies down. Vince Gamill on the cancercured list has direct expertise with last gasp patients. I hope you can raise him for some very interesting information. Duncan On 16 May 2007 at 11:07, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: I am inquiring on behalf of a person near to death. Has anyone on this list seen any remarkable recoveries or spontaneous remissions with use of large quantities of EIS? I am familiar with R.0. Becker's amazing research, but that did not include cancer treatment or internal consumption of EIS. Thanks in advance. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEmphysema, Bronchitis: Colloidal Silver Oxygen Nebulizer | Pnuemonia Type Infection
Al, et al ;) look it up again in the context of glutathione depletion. I've helped many people by suggesting antioxidants, vitamin b-complex, selenium and undenatured whey; in a few days even COPD and asthma symptoms are reduced or eliminated. COPD is usually also associated with a chronic lung infection. Point is, when glutathione is depleted infection is stimulated and irritation and oxidative stress are increased. I'm not monitoring the lists closely this week so if there is a reply or questions please copy them to my email. Duncan On 15 May 2007 at 20:11, Al Rawlinson wrote: http://testimonials.silvermedicine.org:80/content/lung-infection-silver-2.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMange
Pat, I think ozonated olive oil will work on mange. Dr. Pressman makes ooo and sells it online: s...@plasmafire.com -- it's not listed on his site www.plasmafire.com so you have to email him. Duncan On 10 May 2007 at 20:16, Pat Lawrie wrote: I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to kill them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS would work. Pat - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS qx
Charles and all; here's the instruction for the microwave oven circuit CS maker; there is no diagram: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/colloidal_silver.html Duncan On 13 Apr 2007 at 8:40, Charles Marcus wrote: I sell colloidal silver and I have a page up on how I rewired a microwave oven to use the circuit and make large amounts quickly, Hi Duncan, I'd be very interested in reading this. I recall seeing a reference to rewiring a microwave to make CS a long time ago, but forget where. I saved the document, but who knows where it is now... ;) Thanks, Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS qx
Cindy, I just read yesterday several studies on using xylitol drops for otitis media, sinus infection, which is often the same bacteria, and dental caries. I sell colloidal silver and I have a page up on how I rewired a microwave oven to use the circuit and make large amounts quickly, but sometimes delivery to the location is difficult; still, using CS, alternating with or mixing in the xylitol seems like a good idea. Both are remarkably cheap. Start today with the xylitol drops; prep it by mixing about 1/2 tsp xylitol, about 1/3 tsp non-iodized salt, a pinch of baking soda if your water is acidic, and optionally also a jot of potassium chloride. I think a tsp of xylitol in it would be better but 1/2 tsp is adequate for sinus. You can dose your ears with drops as well as spray the sinuses; this will probably increase effectiveness. Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/ On 12 Apr 2007 at 12:52, Cindy B wrote: I'm a first time poster but have been on the group for awhile. I find the discussions on CS very interesting and would like to try it for myself. I was wondering if anyone on the list sells this? I'm not comfortable making my own at this point but would like to purchase to try. Also, any input on using CS as ear drops; I have a terrible ear infection that has my entire one ear swollen shut. I only have 25% of my hearing left and this infection is in my good ear which I wear a hearing aid. Been to the ENT who has given me ear drops at this point. This is a nerve deafness that has been passed on from my dad. Very hard to accept and I'm only 48. Any input on my questions would be great! Cindy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: pH
Advising to eat grains or any other carbohydrate doesn't make sense for many reasons besides pH. Some examples would be tthe glucose roller coaster, insulin desensitisation, immune system suppression by half for up to 5 hours, advanced glycation end products, induced metabolic syndrome including reduced repair and regeneration via HGH growth hormone suppression, lack of nutrient density etc... ...the bowel disorders alone, which are at epidemic levels, are a good enough reason for probably a third of the population to avoid carbs. I believe in the no-grain diet but a good low carb diet goes beyond that to exclude sweet fruits, potatoes, yams, sweet potatoes, sugar beets, and sugar and starches including those allowed by the Specific Carbohydrate diet. The proof is that such a diet tends to reverse Crohn's, colitis, irritable bowel syndrome, gut candida and dysbiosis, given time, and you can't do it while using any carbs. Adding a couple of specific supplements is all it takes to reduce that time by a factor of about eight: inulin, undenatured whey and selenium. Duncan On 12 Apr 2007 at 19:49, Dee wrote: It is really interesting Cinderella, although rather a lot to absorb. One thing, it recommends avoiding things like meat, cheese eggs and fish, while saying it is ok to eat grains as they are only mildly acidic. Now I could be wrong, but most people like Mercola etc.. Strongly recommend *not* eating grains at all! I wonder if Terry will be able to enlighten me? Also, I noticed the pH papers were the .5 ones which Terry said *not* to get. Just a thought. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMore on pH
Undenatured whey, a component of the dairy category, is a core part of the cure for most diseases because it is uniquely alkalizing and it uniquely produces glutathione, the body's most powerful healing agent, antioxidant and detoxifier. Importantly, cellular glutathione level is considered to be the main indicator of immune system health and disease prognosis. A whole lot of references including using undenatured whey in cancer treatrment all by itself is on my glutathione references page: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html By the way, reducing the actual toxin load reduces a lot of the acidity produced by the toxins. Inulin, a prebiotic, reduces toxin production in the bowel, the biggest toxin source, and glutathione reduces toxins, and it and the alkaline minerals and oxygen of course neutralize some of the acidity. I look at probable potassium and magnesium deficiency in addition to calcium forms when considering pH. What Terry just touched on is detailed fairly well in Dr. Steven Haltiwanger's fascinating monograph, The Electrical Properties of Cancer Cells; download two of his documents here: http://Royalrife.com/haltiwanger.html It also explains how high pH therapy works using cesium chloride to alkalize the lymph and especially, cancer cells. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMore on pH
Dee, it's rare that someone is too alkaline, and if you were, the yogurt would be a good bet. You'd still keep your glutathione levels up because high levels are important for immune health and disease prognosis, as well as being a key component of energy production in the cells. Duncan On 11 Apr 2007 at 19:55, Dee wrote: But this wouldn't be appropriate would it Duncan if you were too alkaline? I mean the whey. I am taking the inulin a couple of times a week though. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox
Here's another one; salvia divinorum, a bitter herb that at very low doses reduces drug-taking behaviour and actual consumption of several specific addictive substances, but is itself non- addictive. Three low doses in the first week cuts desire for the substances by about half; studies indicate reduced or eliminated withdrawal from alcohol and opiates, probably the rest too. Addictive substances that have been tested are in the class of mu-opioid agonists: opiates, amphetamines, nicotine, alcohol, cocaine and cannabis. Further, eating disorders, restricted breathing and depression are also candidiates for treatment with this plant. References on my salvia page can be located by gooogling salvia divinorum references. Duncan On 29 Mar 2007 at 11:13, Jodi W Menard wrote: Teri, that's amazing!!I've got to try it. I wonder why it has to be only at night though...?It would be alot easier for me to put it in my morning O.J. instead. I hope it doesn't matter when you take it, as long as you do. Have you noticed any side effects from doing this?Thank you so much! Jodi Teri Johnston wrote on 3/29/2007, 9:44 AM: This was discussed on another list i am on and they recommended 1 teaspoon cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice every night, for some reason it works, in the morning you eliminate nicotine when you go to the bathroom, you continue smoking, but as you release nicotine the craving goes down until you are no longer wanting a cigarette. I am in my third week of it and am down to maybe having 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that won't be for much longer = it does seem to work. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver- l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic- l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSAsthma: alternative approach
Asthma is associated in the research with oxidative stress caused by low glutathione, and when you elevate glutathione with selenium and undenatured whey and take other antioxidants, asthma goes away. This I think is the correct orthomolecular approach in addition to reducing casual toxin exposure, and curb toxin creation in the gut by dysbiosis, which causes leaky gut, a huge asthma aggravator. The approach, with a b-vitamin, has also worked on COPD. Duncan On 19 Mar 2007 at 9:08, Faith Saint Francis wrote: Richard wrote: am looking for info on cs and any benefits for asthma sufferers For asthma there is a Reflexological approach, which is not really difficult to do. Anyone interested, please write to luzy...@une.net.co Faith and Luz, alternative Health practitioners, licensed, committed Refexology therapists. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBrewer's baker's and anti-candida live yeast
Brewer's, baker's and anti-candida yeast are practically identical, and all are sold in live form for their respective purpose. Brewers yeast is bought fresh for brewing because it's not contaminated like it eventully would become if brewers maintained their own culture, like sourdough. Keeping ones own culture would be undesireable in beer due to the contamination. Perhaps nutritional yeast is killed sometimes, I don't know, but this would be a relatively new development; traditionally, yeast smoothies have been made with live brewer's yeast. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhey/Nutritional Yeast
Nutritional and bakers yeast is used in the anti-candida mixes because it takes up starch and sugar faster than candida can. It's easily controlled in the bowel by pH and it rarely presents a systemic hazard. Here's a 2005 review that found just 92 documented cases in peer- review, while candidasis is known to affect millions: http://tinyurl.com/2z364n Duncan On 7 Mar 2007 at 13:29, sol wrote: Hmm, does bakers yeast not get established and grow in the intestines? I seem to remember reading it is as bad a parasite there as candida, if not worse? However, I also remember my mother telling me an old time cure for boils was to eat a cake of fresh raw bakers yeast (remember yeast cakes anybody?). So in my memory two differing opinions.can you give us more information on why live bakers yeast is ok to ingest? I've been baking bread nearly all my life, and have always been so careful to wash my hands and to try to wash/sterilize every surface the raw dough has touched. Was it all a lot of extra work for no good reason? sol Duncan Crow wrote: Deborah, bakers/brewers yeast does not kill but outcompetes candida; for that reason it is used in anti-candida probiotics. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWhey/Nutritional Yeast
Deborah, bakers/brewers yeast does not kill but outcompetes candida; for that reason it is used in anti-candida probiotics. Duncan On 6 Mar 2007 at 18:39, Deborah Gerard wrote: Hi Duncan so are you saying that brewers/bakers yeast kills candida? thanks in advance ...debbie Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca wrote: Dee: The no-yeast rule in candidiasis diets is one of the candida myths we've busted on the candidiasis yahoogroup that's easy to check -- not only is the cell wall composition of yeast practically the same as candida, which can't eat itself, nutritional brewers/baker's yeast is commonly used as one of the probiotics that outcompete candida. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWhey
Carol Ann, Free cysteine is toxic (Meister, 1984; Baruchel et at., 1996) and is poorly absorbed and transported. Another form N- acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC) is an amine protected version of cysteine. It is rapidly hydrolyzed in the body to cysteine and it has a vey short half-life. Not before some gets into the liver and this small percentage is indeed used by the liver. But because the rest of the free cysteine is a toxin at the decent doses required regularly, outside of an emergency life- saving situation such as acetaminophen overdose it's not a good drug, and it's not a health supplement. Overall it's not particularly beneficial because of the toxin load trade-off. That's why I recommend undenatured whey for glutathione increase. The ALA is useful with the Whey. Duncan On 5 Mar 2007 at 18:52, Carol Ann wrote: Duncan, I came across some NAC by Jarrow on sale and bought it ~ supposedly a glutathione precursor as well and a beneficial antioxident. My question is whether it would be advantageous to take it with the Whey, as I do Alpha Lipioc acid, DMAE and psychogenol. Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca wrote: Dan, I use selenomethionine extracted from yeast culture - some yeast seleniums still have yeast but I don't think that's an issue. Dosage would be about 200 mcg for healthy people with extremely low arsenic exposure gained mainly via their drinking water; in illness and allowing for the arsenic, about double that, and at 1100 mcg daily viral load reduction and tumour shrinkage was observed. It wasn't until adult subjects got 3200 mcg daily for a year they started coming up with temporary fingernail deformities, a toxic symptom. No other symptom was observed. Again, this is a complement to undenatured whey, a pronounced glutathione precursor. Duncan On 5 Mar 2007 at 9:46, Dan Nave wrote: What sort of selenium do you recommend? Dan -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:29 PM To: Cinder Ella; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWhey Doris, if the whey is undenatuerd, meaning uncooked, it's a very good precursor for glutathione, the body's master antioxidant and detoxifier. With selenium, it's a very useful core therapy for most illnesses including age-related degeneration, autoimmune diseases and immune support; practically all of our reactions involve glutathione including energy generation. Duncan On 4 Mar 2007 at 15:01, Cinder Ella wrote: Pat, what was the purpose of just buying whey? Is it for a protein substitute? If so there are many protein shakes on the market that are built around whey. If you have a blender and like fruits you could put it in a blender with fruits and make a shake? I have never eaten whey by itself. Doris Pat wrote: I've ordered whey for my son and myself. How is it used? Neither of us like the taste of milk (unless I have chocolate chip cookies). Do you do it in a blender or can you just shake it? Mix with water? Can you mix chocolate syrup into it? It has to be tasty to someone used to a typical American diet or it will just be wasted. Pat __ __ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers. Regards, Carol Ann ~ Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008. - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
RE: CSWhey/Nutritional Yeast
Maz, nutritional yeast doesn't contain enough niacin (b-3) to produce a niacin rush at normal doses. Unless you were taking like 1/2 cup of dry yeast I think the rush you got was something else or the blend you had previously had was fortified with b-3. Regardless, body reacting less to b-3 dosing is very common in a program. Duncan On 6 Mar 2007 at 10:37, Max Sanders wrote: You mention below a yeast derived selenium. I have intended to ask the list folk what the available info/collective knowledge is on nutritional yeast. I have over the years eaten the stuff and found it to be a healthy addition. It contains many amino acids, B vits (some added), minerals. If I take some rather than a cup of coffee - I get the energy without the static of caffiene. I have also observed that of late, the nutritional yeast does not impart the niacin rush as readily or at the same amount of nutritional yeast ingested, compared to earlier times. There could be serveral explanations, including lesser quality yeast, less added niacin, and/or my older body needing more and reacting less. Maz Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca wrote: Carol Ann, Free cysteine is toxic (Meister, 1984; Baruchel et at., 1996) and is poorly absorbed and transported. Another form N- acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC) is an amine protected version of cysteine. It is rapidly hydrolyzed in the body to cysteine and it has a vey short half-life. Not before some gets into the liver and this small percentage is indeed used by the liver. But because the rest of the free cysteine is a toxin at the decent doses required regularly, outside of an emergency life- saving situation such as acetaminophen overdose it's not a good drug, and it's not a health supplement. Overall it's not particularly beneficial because of the toxin load trade-off. That's why I recommend undenatured whey for glutathione increase. The ALA is useful with the Whey. Duncan On 5 Mar 2007 at 18:52, Carol Ann wrote: Duncan, I came across some NAC by Jarrow on sale and bought it ~ supposedly a glutathione precursor as well and a beneficial antioxident. My question is whether it would be advantageous to take it with the Whey, as I do Alpha Lipioc acid, DMAE and psychogenol. Duncan Crow wrote: Dan, I use selenomethionine extracted from yeast culture - some yeast seleniums still have yeast but I don't think that's an issue. Dosage would be about 200 mcg for healthy people with extremely low arsenic exposure gained mainly via their drinking water; in illness and allowing for the arsenic, about double that, and at 1100 mcg daily viral load reduction and tumour shrinkage was observed. It wasn't until adult subjects got 3200 mcg daily for a year they started coming up with temporary fingernail deformities, a toxic symptom. No other symptom was observed. Again, this is a complement to undenatured whey, a pronounced glutathione precursor. Duncan On 5 Mar 2007 at 9:46, Dan Nave wrote: What sort of selenium do you recommend? Dan -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:29 PM To: Cinder Ella; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWhey Doris, if the whey is undenatuerd, meaning uncooked, it's a very good precursor for glutathione, the body's master antioxidant and detoxifier. With selenium, it's a very useful core therapy for most illnesses including age-related degeneration, autoimmune diseases and immune support; practically all of our reactions involve glutathione including energy generation. Duncan On 4 Mar 2007 at 15:01, Cinder Ella wrote: Pat, what was the purpose of just buying whey? Is it for a protein substitute? If so there are many protein shakes on the market that are built around whey. If you have a blender and like fruits you could put it in a blender with fruits and make a shake? I have never eaten whey by itself. Doris Pat wrote: I've ordered whey for my son and myself. How is it used? Neither of us like the taste of milk (unless I have chocolate chip cookies). Do you do it in a blender or can you just shake it? Mix with water? Can you mix chocolate syrup into it? It has to be tasty to someone used to a typical American diet or it will just be wasted. Pat __ __ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
RE: CSWhey/Nutritional Yeast
Dee: The no-yeast rule in candidiasis diets is one of the candida myths we've busted on the candidiasis yahoogroup that's easy to check -- not only is the cell wall composition of yeast practically the same as candida, which can't eat itself, nutritional brewers/baker's yeast is commonly used as one of the probiotics that outcompete candida. Duncan On 6 Mar 2007 at 19:20, Dee wrote: I had always understood that if you had a candida type infection, then you shouldn't eat anything with yeast in it. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Max Sanders Date: 06/03/2007 18:38:10 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSWhey/Nutritional Yeast You mention below a yeast derived selenium. I have intended to ask the list folk what the available info/collective knowledge is on nutritional yeast. I have over the years eaten the stuff and found it to be a healthy addition. It contains many amino acids, B vits (some added), minerals. If I take some rather than a cup of coffee - I get the energy without the static of caffiene. I have also observed that of late, the nutritional yeast does not impart the niacin rush as readily or at the same amount of nutritional yeast ingested, compared to earlier times. There could be serveral explanations, including lesser quality yeast, less added niacin, and/or my older body needing more and reacting less. Maz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWhey
Dan, I use selenomethionine extracted from yeast culture - some yeast seleniums still have yeast but I don't think that's an issue. Dosage would be about 200 mcg for healthy people with extremely low arsenic exposure gained mainly via their drinking water; in illness and allowing for the arsenic, about double that, and at 1100 mcg daily viral load reduction and tumour shrinkage was observed. It wasn't until adult subjects got 3200 mcg daily for a year they started coming up with temporary fingernail deformities, a toxic symptom. No other symptom was observed. Again, this is a complement to undenatured whey, a pronounced glutathione precursor. Duncan On 5 Mar 2007 at 9:46, Dan Nave wrote: What sort of selenium do you recommend? Dan -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:29 PM To: Cinder Ella; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWhey Doris, if the whey is undenatuerd, meaning uncooked, it's a very good precursor for glutathione, the body's master antioxidant and detoxifier. With selenium, it's a very useful core therapy for most illnesses including age-related degeneration, autoimmune diseases and immune support; practically all of our reactions involve glutathione including energy generation. Duncan On 4 Mar 2007 at 15:01, Cinder Ella wrote: Pat, what was the purpose of just buying whey? Is it for a protein substitute? If so there are many protein shakes on the market that are built around whey. If you have a blender and like fruits you could put it in a blender with fruits and make a shake? I have never eaten whey by itself. Doris Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: I've ordered whey for my son and myself. How is it used? Neither of us like the taste of milk (unless I have chocolate chip cookies). Do you do it in a blender or can you just shake it? Mix with water? Can you mix chocolate syrup into it? It has to be tasty to someone used to a typical American diet or it will just be wasted. Pat __ __ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.
Re: CSWhey
Doris, if the whey is undenatuerd, meaning uncooked, it's a very good precursor for glutathione, the body's master antioxidant and detoxifier. With selenium, it's a very useful core therapy for most illnesses including age-related degeneration, autoimmune diseases and immune support; practically all of our reactions involve glutathione including energy generation. Duncan On 4 Mar 2007 at 15:01, Cinder Ella wrote: Pat, what was the purpose of just buying whey? Is it for a protein substitute? If so there are many protein shakes on the market that are built around whey. If you have a blender and like fruits you could put it in a blender with fruits and make a shake? I have never eaten whey by itself. Doris Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: I've ordered whey for my son and myself. How is it used? Neither of us like the taste of milk (unless I have chocolate chip cookies). Do you do it in a blender or can you just shake it? Mix with water? Can you mix chocolate syrup into it? It has to be tasty to someone used to a typical American diet or it will just be wasted. Pat It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.
Re: CStopic of being hot was/now thyroid-adrenals
Jodi, we've found that simply reducing toxin load and improving intestinal nutrient malabsorption and dietary deficiency improves thyroid function without treating the thyroid or the adrenals. Deficiency and toxin load drives thyroid low and holds adrenals high; as it turns out, the adrenals are fine, just chronically overstimulated by these physical stressors, and the adrenal fatigue is usually phoney. Duncan On 26 Feb 2007 at 11:31, Jodi W Menard wrote: I've been treating my thyroid (self treating) for almost 2-1/2 years now. The group Sol mentions below was a life-saver for me and I still recommend it, but there is one thing I would say differently from them. You should be very, very careful about treating your adrenals. The standard medical treatment for it is hydrocortisone, also recommended by the owner of that group, but once you start taking it, it's very hard to stop and has dangerous side effects as well (search for 'hydrocortisone, side effects' to see). I took it for only one day and woke up the next feeling so badly and so swollen I looked like a pumpkin, so I quit right then. I'll never forget the laments of certain folks on that list who wished they had never started taking it. Just because your adrenals are overworked and tired doesn't mean you should start taking hydrocortisone. What most people don't realize is that 'treating your thyroid alone', ultimately repairs your adrenals. If you feel you need additional support, there are alternative adrenal treatments that are not addicting and will help without doing any damage. Raw adrenal extracts or even a short term of pharmaceutical grade pregnenolone for instance. Both of which are over the counter or on the internet. I used pregnenolone and it seemed to do the trick for me. Jodi Sol wrote [snipped]: My symptoms also fit the profile of adrenal problems, and by what I've read you need to treat both if you have both. I have embarked on a trial of both adrenal and thyroid,self-treating. The group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones/ has what seems to me to be some good information in its Files section. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSthyroid and adrenal re dysbiosis
Hypothyroid in most people without thyropid damage is caused by toxin load. Toxin load also elevates cortisol and adrenaline, the stress hormones, leading to adrenal fatigue. As it turns out the adrenals still work fine, just can't keep pumping out at 100% on a continuous basis. The biggest source of toxin load is toxin creation in the bowel by pathogenic bacteria and candida. Once this is cleared up temperature improves, cortisol and adrenaline drops. All it takes to clear up a dysbiosis scenario in the bowel is to restore inulin intake to optimum values; this main feed (prebiotic) for bowel probiotics is in short supply -- deficient by about 4/5 -- in the modern diet, becasue we choos inulin-poor vegetables and don't eat enough inulin-rich vegetables. While I respect reflexology as a tewaking tool, it won't touch dysbiosis, and dysbiosis is incredibly common due to that 4/5 deficiency of inulin in the diet. Restoring natural probiotic values reinstates a healthy bowel ecology as the probiotics naturally control pathogens and their toxin production. To quench existing toxin load it helps to ensure glutathione levels are up. Undenatured whey and selenium, and also other antioxidants work together on that; glutathione precursors are also found in low amounts in raw food. So, the doctors are actually correct, as low temperature, low thyroid and elevated stress hormones are all symptoms -- of dysbiosis. Also, dysbiosis causes malabsorption of nutrients, another physical stressor that elevates stress hormones even on its own, and which will not respond to reflexology. Clearly this is worth a look; see you on the candidiasis list, the largest and most scientific bowel health group on the Internet that includes many people with irritable bowel and inflammatory bowel diseases. They are uniformly getting results in 10 days to 2 months using the above plus a low-carb diet. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/candidiasis Duncan On 25 Feb 2007 at 11:33, Faith Saint Francis wrote: Respected Sol I read your By my temps, I am definitely hypothyroid, but many doctors don't believe low body temp is an indicator of thyroid problems. Still, my symptoms sure fit. My symptoms also fit the profile of adrenal problems There are a few very easy pressure points to re-align these organs. If you are interested, I can send you the information, maybe even on Power Point. Take care, Faith Licensed, Reflexology practitioner _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpotassium-deficient?? (Duncan)
The banana story is probably propagated by the banana cartel ;) -- most of the groups I'm on are avoiding high-carb foods, and bananas are one of the highest carb foods you could eat. keywords to search: advanced glycation end-products, candida, diabetes, oxidative stress, body acidification to start with. There are plenty of much lower-carb sources of potassium. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Vitamin C and Salt Protocol warning - liver function
Deborah, die off is expected to a degree with some therapies, but because it's actually a symptom of rising toxin load, you can ameliorate it by quenching the toxins properly by supporting liver and cellular function to handle that toxin load. In other words die-off is a symptom of free radical harm and increased toxin load, and you may not get the (Jarisch- Herxheimer) reaction if you take biologically supportive precautions to handle it. I have a liver function article scanned in from a book by a Great Smokies Labs founder; email me (anyone) for it and start to balance and support your liver's detoxification function and your immune system properly. I think the only thing the article got wrong was mentioning oral glutathione as a supplement, which doesn't work, and mentioning n- acetylcysteine as the alternative for glutathione increase although it is rapidly hydrolysed into free cysteine, a toxin, so is only marginally useful in an emergency. Undenatured whey, selenium and lipoic acid are useful glutathione promoters but I don't recall them being mentioned together. Duncan On 22 Feb 2007 at 19:10, Deborah Gerard wrote: So with all the different posts on this subject is there a web page or an article that would give us the instructions on doing this? Is there any die off to expect from this ? thanks debbie ransley rans...@atmc.net wrote: Duncan is absolutely right and I have firsthand experience with this. Potassium Orotate worked best for me. Daddybob -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:10 PM To: Paula Perry; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Vitamin C and Salt Protocol warning I would like to caution people on the salt-C protocol to avoid potassium imbalance -- supplementing potassium will avoid the tissue wasting of rhabdomyolysis caused by excess salt or potassium depletion, which is the same wasting disorder as that caused by statin drugs. The most at-risk tissues are the highest ATP users, the heart muscle and the brain, then the other muscles. Not good. Have you heard that most of us are potassium-deficient already? Duncan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/697 - Release Date: 2/22/2007 11:55 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
Re: CSRe: Vitamin C and Salt Protocol warning
I would like to caution people on the salt-C protocol to avoid potassium imbalance -- supplementing potassium will avoid the tissue wasting of rhabdomyolysis caused by excess salt or potassium depletion, which is the same wasting disorder as that caused by statin drugs. The most at-risk tissues are the highest ATP users, the heart muscle and the brain, then the other muscles. Not good. Have you heard that most of us are potassium-deficient already? Duncan On 21 Feb 2007 at 12:58, Paula Perry wrote: Thanks for sending that information. I'm going to order some. Paula - Original Message - From: Charles Marcus tansta...@libertytrek.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:29 PM Subject: CSRe: Vitamin C and Salt Protocol How much salt are you talking about? You start out at 4 grams each of salt and vitamin c, taken in four separate doses. You gradually move up to a maximum of a gram of salt and a gram of c per 12 pounds body weight per day. The time you between those two can be weeks or months depending on your individual reaction. For more info google lyme strategies. I cannot stress enough that I would avoid any corn source vitamin C, and I do not prefer any pure ascorbic acid myself, I prefer mineral ascorbates. Could you tell us what brand of vitamin C you take? The ascorbic acid seems to be in most of them. I prefer the same brand that Linus Pauling (the 'Father' of vitamin c) used in all of his studies and took himself: L-ascorbic acid -- the 'L' is the important part... Available from: www.vitamincfoundation.org / 800-894-9025 They offer a very good discount if you auto-ship one bottle per month (the price goes from $34/bottle to $21/bottle)... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/696 - Release Date: 2/21/07 3:19 PM
Re: CSRE: SOmedical question
Pat, you just haven't seen the photos; they are pretty self- explanatory about the encrusted plasticlike mucoid plaque. Duncan On 16 Feb 2007 at 5:21, Pat wrote: I don't believe all that about the buildup of gunk in the intestines. It seems to me that the mucous membranes are pretty much self-cleaning. Think about if you eat peanut butter...even that doesn't stick in the throat for long. In the small intestines, the food is even more liquid. Pat - Original Message From: Heather King (LCA) heather.k...@microsoft.com To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:02:27 PM Subject: CSRE: SOmedical question I have had perhaps 30 colonoscopies over the course of my adult life, about half of which were video camera documented. I had familial polyposis (lots of benign polyps) and have actually watched numerous biopsies collected from my intestinal walls cauteries of smaller, early-stage polyps. In no case was there ever any evidence of anything but shiny, pink, glass-like surfaces inside. They actually expand the sections with air as they move along so they can get clear camera shots even with that, it remained perfectly smooth, clean pink. Not saying everyone is like me, but I eat as much or more red meat than the next guy tend to overdo it on the diet (currently about 60 pounds overweight). Who knows...in my life, the evidence says that not eating after 8 pm the night before the procedure and taking a bottle of magnesium citrate is enough to create the shiny colon effect... Your mileage may vary? Heather -Original Message- From: laquerenci...@sbcglobal.net [mailto:] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:31 PM To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Subject: SOmedical question Someone (Linda maybe?) remarked several months ago that, during a procedure where she was awake and able to observe, none of the gunk on the intestinal walls could be seen - the stuff that is often assumed to build up and adhere in the lower bowel. I've been wondering lately whether I missed a discussion about this interesting observation. Wondering what people think about it, given all the products and cleansing regimes based on the idea that everyone has this sort of gunk and needs to get rid of it. DByron -- The silver-off-topic-list is a moderated forum for silver-list members to discuss topics not appropriate on the main list. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Off Topic List Web archive is currently down. List Owner: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: CSAlpha-1 Lung Disease
Lung disease points to a glutathione deficiency; the way to increase glutathione is undenatured whey and selenium. Most of us are selenium-deficient and also exposed to arsenic, a selenium depletor. Duncan On 15 Feb 2007 at 21:33, claire shaw wrote: Does anyone here have experience using CS for Alpha-1 Lung Disease? Thanks, Claire -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSprobiotic and CS
We treat dysbiosis and candida on the candidiasis list with prebiotic inulin rather than or as well as with probiotics. Practice and research shows probiotics are actually nearly ineffective. Rather than proposing a probiotic culture to the bowel, which needs feeding anyway, what is needed is to feed your own probiotic culture so it can be kept active. This is accomplished by improving amount of their feed, inulin, which is low in modern farmed foods but was fairly high in traditional staple vegetables. Gooogling inulin references will turn up very comprehensive information on the subject as well as a table of quite a few high- inulin traditional foods. Duncan On 30 Dec 2006 at 23:44, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: What is a good probiotic to take when taking CS longterm? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox
The herb salvia divinorum has been used as an anti-addictive on six of the top addictions, nicotine included, by removing the need and, uniquely, not repacing it with something else. References are on my website and I've seen it working in our little local trial too. It works in this respect at lower than hallucinogenic doses. Duncan Crow On 26 Dec 2006 at 23:34, rusty0 wrote: This was discussed on another list i am on and they recommended 1 teaspoon cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice every night, for some reason it works, in the morning you eliminate nicotine when you go to the bathroom, you continue smoking, but as you release nicotine the craving goes down until you are no longer wanting a cigarette. I am in my third week of it and am down to maybe having 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that won't be for much longer = it does seem to work. - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:11 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox Okay, since I accidentally replied to the list rather then Debb, and posted her original question as a result, maybe we can get some input on it? She asks: Hi I would really appreciate some Ideas on what you all think about detoxing the body and lungs from nicotene.long time smoker . Debb I'll be sauna would be on the list, Debb. Be well, Mike (researching sauna options) D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAlfalfa and Kelp, amount and ingestion
What's a teaspoon of alfalfa powder, two grams approx? I wouldn't go higher. Alfalfa is too hot for horses except as a supplement due to the high nitrogen (kidney burden, kidney damage), and it may be too hot for humans too. Duncan On 21 Dec 2006 at 20:27, Peter M. Stellas wrote: Maz, I occasionally add a teaspoonful of alfalfa to my breakfast, along with two teaspoonfuls of yeast flakes and an equal quantity of semi-ground flax-seeds. A rather good mixture, along with other items. I used to add alfalfa to my dog's dinner too. Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Re: CSIonic Silver vs. Silver Particles
My homemade no-name CS has saved lives. It's mostly ionic with hardly any Tyndall effect; I think the distinction should be made with regard to method rather than whether it's made at home or at the office. I still use the 3600 volt pulsed DC microwave oven circuit, and I've made quite a few of the same for other people to use to make homemade CS. Duncan On 19 Dec 2006 at 10:18, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: I was told by jason of silver medicne and nancy who cured herself of MS that natural immunogenics silver is much more available requiring much less silver with less chance of agyria taken long term than homemade CS. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
Jan, the yahoogroup candidiasis deals with probiotics, prebiotics, candida, bowel dysbiosis, and bowel disorders such as irritable bowel syndrome and inflammatory bowel disease. It is the largest (4100 members) and most scientific bowel health group on the Internet. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/candidiasis Duncan Crow On 16 Dec 2006 at 1:13, havaban...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/15/2006 10:41:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Look into this stuff. Its a probiotic.Somebody on one of the CUREZONE forums was bragging about it getting his digestive system in line.On the website they also talk about it helping sinus problems.I'm going to try it after i get thru the holidays. I'm trying to catch on to the talk about silver but think I need to find a real basic website or book about it so that I can understand what's being said here. While I don't understand silver, I do know about probiotics. All of a sudden I couldn't eat several foods without terrible itching and my doctor at the time was one who was up on alternative medicine. She found a lab that would test to see if I had leaky gut and the results came back that I did. She said she didn't know very much about it and to get on the web and do my homework, so that's what I did. I joined different groups and most of the people on them were peddling their own products, but in between that I learned a lot over the course of 4 years. Here's a free and simple test you can do that will check your gut. First thing in the morning before you do anything or put anything in your mouth, spit into a clear glass of water. Let it sit and watch to see what it does. If you get legs coming down from it, you could greatly benefit from a probiotic. I took up to 10 billion a day which was 5 pills. You also have to stop feeding the problem with sugars and food that turn into sugar in your body. There are several good probiotics on the market but the only name I can remember at the moment is NOW. It's rated in the top 5 and it's something like 6.00 in a health food store. Even my grocery chain carries it and it's in the refrigerator section. You can find a lot of fancy websites with probiotics for sale and they all claim to be the best and are amazingly expensive. Those were the ones that the people on the lists I joined had no success with so I never tried them. Leaky gut is basically an overgrowth of yeast in the gut so don't add any yeast to your diet and no sugars. Remember that antibiotics kill both good and bad bacteria and if you take them you'll probably need to take the probiotics again. I'm to the point where I'm just staying on them since they can't hurt you. I stopped taking the NOW probiotic because it has a milk form in it and I'm too lazy to get up and go look at the other brand that I'm taking. It's a bit more expensive at 10.00 a bottle, but that's for 100 pills. They don't work as well as the other did but you do what you can. Oh..and I have sinus problems and probiotics didn't help that. They may help others, but didn't work for me, but that wasn't my reason for taking them and I hadn't heard claims that they could help your sinuses until I read your email. Can someone lead me to a basic beginner's crash course on silver so I can catch up to you guys? Jan Smith _Bandit, Lightning, and Ellie_ (http://jashavanese.com/) www.jashavanese.com Contributing Editor/Hotline Staff Havanese Rescue Quilt Member Red River Havanese Club Member Blue Ridge Havanese Club Member Art For HEART _http://www171.pair.com/poodle/artforheart.html_ (http://www171.pair.com/poodle/artforheart.html) Peace starts with a smile -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBudwig diet revision- inulin
The main inulin fermenter bifidobacteria produces short chain fatty acids that feed the colonocytes of the bowel wall. Nearly all of the neutrals and problematic organisms appear to be non- inulin fermenters, and although lactobacilli do produce some carbon dioxide, the gas reduces over about 10-30 days as the dysbiosis is corrected, depending on individual circumstances. The higher the percentage of FOS and sugar the more gas is produced too ;) Duncan On 1 Dec 2006 at 11:14, ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, bs Clayton, Thanks for the information about inulin. I am not sure I can tolerate the foods you have listed, but may try out onion and garlic. I already have alot of gas. Actually, kefir, or maybe it's just the goat's milk seems to make the gas pass easier. Am in process also of trying to better adjust the levels of magnesium and calcium that I ingest. It seems I have been taking quite a bit too much calcium in proportion to magnesium, not remembering that there is calcium in my multivitamin, as well as in other things I am taking. Don't have the actual relationships at hand. have todo e-mail at the library. Will Print this out and keep for further reference. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: bs clayton kl_clay...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBudwig diet revision- inulin Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:48:56 -0800 (PST) from Wikipedia: Inulin is indigestible by the human enzymes ptyalin and amylase, which are designed to digest starch. As a result, inulin passes through much of the digestive system intact. It is only in the colon that bacteria metabolise inulin, with the release of significant quantities of carbon dioxide and/or methane. Inulin-containing foods can be rather gassy, particularly for those unaccustomed to inulin, and these foods should be consumed in moderation at first. However, given some time, most people can adapt to consuming fairly high levels of inulin without side effects. Inulin is not broken down into simple sugars (monosaccharides) by normal digestion, so it does not elevate blood sugar levels, hence, helping diabetics regulate blood sugar levels. Inulin is also a highly effective prebiotic, stimulating the growth of beneficial probiotic bacteria in the gut. As mentioned, inulin passes through the stomach and duodenum undigested and is highly available to the gut bacterial flora. This contrasts with proprietary probiotic formulations based on yogurt or milk in which the bacteria have to survive very challenging conditions through the gastrointestinal tract before they are able to colonize the gut. Some traditional diets contain up to 20g per day of inulin or oligofructose. Many foods naturally high in inulin or oligofructose, such as chicory, garlic, and leek, have been seen as stimulants of good health for centuries (Full study of PubMed 10395609). Inulin can be found in commerically available products such as Fibersure from the Makers of Metamucil. Fibersure is a fiber supplement powder that can be added to foods or beverages without changing the taste or texture. It performs well in cooking and baking applications and can be an easy way to add additional fiber to the diet through foods and drinks. Inulin is also used in medical tests to measure the total amount of extracellular volume and determine the function of the kidneys ([Reference: MedlinePlus Drug Information http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202300.html]) Natural sources of inulin Plants that contain high concentrations of inulin include: Dandelion (Taraxacum officinale) Wild Yam (Dioscorea spp.) Jerusalem artichokes (Helianthus tuberosus) Chicory (Cichorium intybus) Jicama (Pachyrhizus erosus) Burdock (Arctium lappa) Onion (Allium cepa) Garlic (Allium sativum) Agave (Agave spp Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmk
Re: CSBudwig diet revision
Hi Deborah, Although lactobacilli produce gas and I think work faster on inulin it's the minor probiotic; the major one bifidobacteria don't. I don't know what causes the gas as it's a complex situation in the gut. Gas will resolve as the bowel ecology improves with more bifidobacteria; it takes about 10-30 days. Duncan On 29 Nov 2006 at 18:20, Deborah Gerard wrote: Hi Duncan could you comment for me as to why inulin capsules and even probitotic capsules would give me violent gaswhat is up with that? is something bieng killed off? thanks so much in advance debbie Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca wrote: Lactose intolerance has been relieved by adding inulin to the diet, which brings up the numbers of probiotic organisms that eat lactose before it causes indigestion :) Duncan On 27 Nov 2006 at 15:37, Marshall Dudley wrote: My solution to lactose intolerance was to switch to almond milk. Really tastes good as well, although rather expensive. Don't get the Pacific brand, it is not very good. Marshall ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, Duncan Crow, I have recently become interested in kefir. I am lactose intolerant. My daughter tells me that homemade kefir even made with storebought milk works for her in spite of her problems with milk products. She sent me some grains. Unfortunately, I let them sit over Thanksgiving Day without feeding and they had already been in the mail since Monday. Also I made several serious errors in working with them. I am currently trying to find somewhere where I can purchase unpasteurized goat's milk which is supposed to keep the grains happier, but not to be absolutely necessary. What is your opinion of such kefir? I am also interested in water kefir . Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Duncan Crow Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Acmeair , silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBudwig diet revision Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:25:52 -0800 Hi Jim, yes, the Budwig Diet revision is mine. My opinion on yogurt? It is of some use as a probiotic but the primary bacteria in yogurt, lactobacilli, is not the best probiotic. What reveals the probiotic is not a particularly powerful one is that the gut of elderly patients contain high acidophilus AND pathogen levels; on the other hand, small fluctuations of bifidobacteria numbers produce large numeric changes in the bowel ecology including lactobacilli. What's missing from the yogurt or probiotic approach is feeding the probiotic culture that is already in the gut. Historically this was done with high-inulin containing foods, many of which are not popular commercial crops today so most of us are deficient by about 3/4 of the optimal amount of this prebiotic. This explains the bowel disorders epidemic. Yogurt is also of some use as a food even though it's made primarily of the hard-to-digest type of bovine casein noted in the Budwig Diet revision. Casein has been removed from undenatured whey. Duncan On 25 Nov 2006 at 16:34, Acmeair wrote: very nice explanation of this on your website. do you have an opinion on using yoghurt cheese with the cod-liver oil? i make 2 cheese balls out of each batch of yoghurt. and,,, is this revision yours, after your study and research? thanks, jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
Re: CSBudwig diet revision
Lactose intolerance has been relieved by adding inulin to the diet, which brings up the numbers of probiotic organisms that eat lactose before it causes indigestion :) Duncan On 27 Nov 2006 at 15:37, Marshall Dudley wrote: My solution to lactose intolerance was to switch to almond milk. Really tastes good as well, although rather expensive. Don't get the Pacific brand, it is not very good. Marshall ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, Duncan Crow, I have recently become interested in kefir. I am lactose intolerant. My daughter tells me that homemade kefir even made with storebought milk works for her in spite of her problems with milk products. She sent me some grains. Unfortunately, I let them sit over Thanksgiving Day without feeding and they had already been in the mail since Monday. Also I made several serious errors in working with them. I am currently trying to find somewhere where I can purchase unpasteurized goat's milk which is supposed to keep the grains happier, but not to be absolutely necessary. What is your opinion of such kefir? I am also interested in water kefir . Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net, silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBudwig diet revision Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:25:52 -0800 Hi Jim, yes, the Budwig Diet revision is mine. My opinion on yogurt? It is of some use as a probiotic but the primary bacteria in yogurt, lactobacilli, is not the best probiotic. What reveals the probiotic is not a particularly powerful one is that the gut of elderly patients contain high acidophilus AND pathogen levels; on the other hand, small fluctuations of bifidobacteria numbers produce large numeric changes in the bowel ecology including lactobacilli. What's missing from the yogurt or probiotic approach is feeding the probiotic culture that is already in the gut. Historically this was done with high-inulin containing foods, many of which are not popular commercial crops today so most of us are deficient by about 3/4 of the optimal amount of this prebiotic. This explains the bowel disorders epidemic. Yogurt is also of some use as a food even though it's made primarily of the hard-to-digest type of bovine casein noted in the Budwig Diet revision. Casein has been removed from undenatured whey. Duncan On 25 Nov 2006 at 16:34, Acmeair wrote: very nice explanation of this on your website. do you have an opinion on using yoghurt cheese with the cod-liver oil? i make 2 cheese balls out of each batch of yoghurt. and,,, is this revision yours, after your study and research? thanks, jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/
CSDuncan on kefir -Ruth
Ruth, my opinion on kefir is that it's a low potency and relatively uncontrolled probiotic starter culture proposition to your bowel. Feeding your existing probiotic culture with a prebiotic is more useful bowel ecology-wise, and historically, fermented foods and high-prebiotic foods have been used together. A very specific probiotic culture could be made by fermenting inulin or high inulin foods instead of grains, which are fermented by a much wider variety of organisms. Start an inulin slurry by adding a probiotic capsule and ferment at body temperature. Duncan On 27 Nov 2006 at 13:04, ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, Duncan Crow, I have recently become interested in kefir. I am lactose intolerant. My daughter tells me that homemade kefir even made with storebought milk works for her in spite of her problems with milk products. She sent me some grains. Unfortunately, I let them sit over Thanksgiving Day without feeding and they had already been in the mail since Monday. Also I made several serious errors in working with them. I am currently trying to find somewhere where I can purchase unpasteurized goat's milk which is supposed to keep the grains happier, but not to be absolutely necessary. What is your opinion of such kefir? I am also interested in water kefir . Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net, silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBudwig diet revision Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:25:52 -0800 Hi Jim, yes, the Budwig Diet revision is mine. My opinion on yogurt? It is of some use as a probiotic but the primary bacteria in yogurt, lactobacilli, is not the best probiotic. What reveals the probiotic is not a particularly powerful one is that the gut of elderly patients contain high acidophilus AND pathogen levels; on the other hand, small fluctuations of bifidobacteria numbers produce large numeric changes in the bowel ecology including lactobacilli. What's missing from the yogurt or probiotic approach is feeding the probiotic culture that is already in the gut. Historically this was done with high-inulin containing foods, many of which are not popular commercial crops today so most of us are deficient by about 3/4 of the optimal amount of this prebiotic. This explains the bowel disorders epidemic. Yogurt is also of some use as a food even though it's made primarily of the hard-to-digest type of bovine casein noted in the Budwig Diet revision. Casein has been removed from undenatured whey. Duncan On 25 Nov 2006 at 16:34, Acmeair wrote: very nice explanation of this on your website. do you have an opinion on using yoghurt cheese with the cod-liver oil? i make 2 cheese balls out of each batch of yoghurt. and,,, is this revision yours, after your study and research? thanks, jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/
Re: CSBudwig diet revision
Hi Jim, yes, the Budwig Diet revision is mine. My opinion on yogurt? It is of some use as a probiotic but the primary bacteria in yogurt, lactobacilli, is not the best probiotic. What reveals the probiotic is not a particularly powerful one is that the gut of elderly patients contain high acidophilus AND pathogen levels; on the other hand, small fluctuations of bifidobacteria numbers produce large numeric changes in the bowel ecology including lactobacilli. What's missing from the yogurt or probiotic approach is feeding the probiotic culture that is already in the gut. Historically this was done with high-inulin containing foods, many of which are not popular commercial crops today so most of us are deficient by about 3/4 of the optimal amount of this prebiotic. This explains the bowel disorders epidemic. Yogurt is also of some use as a food even though it's made primarily of the hard-to-digest type of bovine casein noted in the Budwig Diet revision. Casein has been removed from undenatured whey. Duncan On 25 Nov 2006 at 16:34, Acmeair wrote: very nice explanation of this on your website. do you have an opinion on using yoghurt cheese with the cod-liver oil? i make 2 cheese balls out of each batch of yoghurt. and,,, is this revision yours, after your study and research? thanks, jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBudwig diet revision
The flax oil and cottage cheese have been replaced in my Budwig Diet revision with cod-liver oil and undenatured whey. http://tinyurl.com/yjh9su Duncan On 24 Nov 2006 at 13:20, sol wrote: Peter, Appreciate the information. I do wonder though, what one could use instead of cottage cheese? For my own info, in case I ever need it. Is there a substitution that people who cannot eat cottage cheese could make? Someone posted about substitution for flaxseed oil.but I can't remember any details. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCigarette addiction
The herb salvia divinorum is being used occasionally, once or twice a week, to reduce the need for nicotine and other addicting substances. It's scientifically proven and Big Pharma is actively developing analogues for the active ingredient. Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/salvia_kappa_opioid.html On 22 Sep 2006 at 0:14, Ian Roe wrote: I missed the orginal post but I want to point out here that tobacco addictiction is 4 1/2 times harder to get out of than heroin addiction. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSChronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease or COPD
After reading COPD is aggravated by depleted glutathione in the lungs, the approach I selected and found to work is b-vitamins, cold-processed whey, selenium and vitamin C. Two for two don't need oxygen any more. Duncan Crow On 18 Sep 2006 at 13:40, Deborah Gerard wrote: Now this is interesting.why does this combo work?debbie Staya Udanvti Bob Butler cheroke...@cox.net wrote: Subject: For people who want to stop smoking REALLY works This REALLY works. I have had friends that have done this and they haven't smoked in 2 some 3 years now. Stop Smoking 1/2 teaspoon cream of tartar 8 oz. orange juice Mix cream of tartar and orange juice Every night drink at bedtime Next morning nicotine comes out in your urine Next day you will smoke fewer cigarettes By the end of the month you will be down to nothing Some people it only takes 10-15 days Others it takes 30 days, it is according to how many cigarettes you smoke the more you smoke the longer it will take. Cheap and is very easy and it works. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Original Message - From: Scott To: Silver List Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: CSChronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease or COPD Hey, Folks My wife was diagnosed with early-stage COPD about 3 years ago and continued to smoke cigarettes. She is now in a non-reversible, advanced stage of COPD and continues to smoke. She can hardly breathe, the doctors will not put her on oxygen, she takes colloidal silver daily (2oz. of 5-10PPM) and almost daily - H2O2 (digestable, food grade - 35% hydrogen peroxide, 5 drops in a 16 oz bottle of water). She is only 46 y.o. and my lifemate. I do not want to lose her. Are there any suggestions you folks have to cure or slow down the COPD? She does have a plan in place to quit smoking and she begins that this next week. Thanks again for your input. Scott Young - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCigarette addiction
A few of our trial subjects are smoking a lot less after taking a herb, salvia divinorum, once or twice a week. It's also working on alcohol, heroin, cocaine and crystal meth addiction. This is a non-addictive approach that happens to fill the exact receptor sites that cause addiction. It's also an analgesic and it can be used for eating disorders and a few other purposes. I have the scientific detail posted on my site; Gooogle: salvia kappa opioid references Duncan Crow On 18 Sep 2006 at 5:39, Scott wrote: Thanks again, Terry. I hope my wife is willing to do just about anything to quit. Scott Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: Scott, EFT is very, very effective against cigarette addiction. For your wife, you should look into it. www.emofree.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: SOConsumer Health Articles THE LINKING PATHOGEN IN NEURO-SYSTEMIC DISEASES CHRONI
Merck spokesman said about 97% of us habor mycoplasma. Obviously, this means that hosting it is not such a big problem in most people. Perhaps people should be increasing their immune system rather than chasing germs. The biggest chronic immune suppressor is probably dietary carbohydrates. People hate to hear that a carb dose can cut immune response by half for about 5 hours. An awful lot of people do that several times a day, every day. Duncan On 4 Sep 2006 at 6:14, Paula Perry wrote: Very interesting read. It links a lot of the current disabling diseases like chronic fatigue, MS, AIDS, and many others to a lab produced, weaponized, mycoplasma.Explains how to be tested for it. I wondered how you might destroy it naturally, if possible? The article seems farfetched until you think how they have biolabs every where now a days. I remember when Katrina hit they mentioned on the news that there was a lab at LSU that worked on biowarfare material. Any thoughts? Paula http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=2830164126 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: flaxseed oil (NOT!)
Hi Tony, Thanks for that and no, I'm not conversant with GMO flax. I realize that business interests propose their seed oils, GMO and natural, can be used as foods, but to me they are bio-diesel ;) that go in this body on an unavoidable basis only. I think it's never been established that seed oils generally are particularly beneficial or necessary to the human diet; flax oil seems to be at best neutral if taken in small amounts. My point in the other post was that a healthy person who ruthlessly limits their omega-6 intake can barely squeak by on what tiny conversion to EPA and DHA the LNA in flax oil undergoes, and that more EPA and DHA than this tiny amount is required to pull one out of a chronic omega-6 imbalance. In an imbalance condition, LA is incorporated into cell membranes and compromizes cell function; this is in addition to the well known inflammation it causes. Quite a lot of the oil must be displaced again by the correct oils, EPA and DHA, to allow the cell to perform its function unimpaired. Impaired cell function is a prerequisite for degenerative illness and cancer. These are described as mitochondrial disorders in the the references; some details and lots of links appear in the mitochondrial disorders protocol on my website. Duncan Crow Are you aware that most varieties of the yellow or golden flax seed are GM'd to have very low lna content ( 2% LNA omega 3 ) in order to improve shelf keeping qualities. I'll not argue about the merits of fish oil but it usually gives me the heaves; so i'll stick to munching the brown flaxseed. :-) regards, Tony Moody -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOmega-3
Essential omega-3 fatty acids should not include linolenic acid, the one in flax oil etc. It's been established that you don't convert it well, other than that it's useless, and that you survive without it if DHA and EPA, the truly essential ones, are present in the diet. Some of that research is on my website on the Budwig Diet revision page. Even if you use flax or another source of LNA you probably need EPA and DHA-rich cod-liver oil or wild fish oil; so much for the natural vegetarian approach. Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/Budwig-diet-revision.html On 22 Aug 2006 at 16:37, oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote: Hi, Google makes it so easy. Here are two sites to check out for omega-3. Just click and you are there. Jean *** http://www.foodnavigator.com/news/ng.asp?n=55325-fruit-derived-omega http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=ISO-8859-1q=Omega-3+sources -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: flaxseed oil (NOT!)
Flax seed oil contains LNA so it is widely thought of as a good omega-3 source; however, LNA has been shown to convert at only tiny amounts to the effective omega-3 oils DHA and EPA, and the LNA itself has no other use in the body. When we have no LNA at all in the diet but DHA and EPA are present, even babies survive and grow; how essential is it really? (reference is in my Budwig Diet revision) Obviously, the marketing distraction from seed oil manufacturers to get another one of their useless paint oils named as an essential food, has worked ;) Besides being 53% LNA, flax oil is almost 13% omega-6 LA, an oil which is already abundant in our diet. It bears watching for excess, because in more than essential amounts it initiates the inflammation cycle, leading to excessive arachidonic acid production. Attempts to reduce inflammation caused by the excess LA by covering it with more EPA and DHA oil to bring the unfavourable omega 3:6 ratio back into line are not very effective without reducing the excess LA. This is covered in Chilton'ss book Inflammation Nation and others. Damage is much higher when your antioxidant pool is depleted, so if you use this oil for food, do take supplemental antioxidants just to offset the damage potential. Antioxidants should include undenatured whey and selenium for the crucial glutathione that recycles your other antioxidants. Same thing if you eat other high oxidizing food oils, which include corn, canola, soy, safflower, walnut, sesame, walnut, sunflower, rice, hemp and a bunch of others. Fresh, extra virgin oil reduces damage potential. There's an oils analysis chart on my coconut oil page that calculates the lipid peroxidation of any oil that you know the fatty acid components of. Coconut oil is only 10% as oxidizing as -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Crohn's Disease?
Scott, Crohn's is caused by diet and infection. The boy shouldn't need any surgery to remove essential parts of his bowel if he does a health program and then continues eating right. 96% of Crohn's cases have a dysbiosis component, which once relieved, reduces much inflammation that was produced by the wrong fluorish of bacteria. Feeding the probiotic bowel organisms with inulin (in situ) controls the toxin-producers and pathogens. The science is well-covered in the inulin refernces section on my website. A high percentage of adults eat vastly too much omega-6 oil, and Crohn's often comes up as a result. The link between inflammation due to fatty acids imbalance and bowel irritation such as Crohn's is detailed in Chilton's book Inflammation Nation. Reducing inflammatory omega-6 oils and increasing EPA and DHA (not flax oil) reduces this kind of inflammation. Much published information regarding Crohn's and infection, and Crohn's and inflammation, appears in my coconut oil references on my website (on the coconut oil page). Free radical damage aggravates any inflammatory condition, and using cold-extracted whey powder produces antioxidants that quenches inflammation as well as tones the immune response down in Crohn's cases. Glutathione works in conjunction with the other antioxidants. Prewritten queries into the science are on my website on my glutathione references page; note that Cohn' and colitis have their own heading. The argument for a Budwig Diet revision, which uses cold- processed whey and cod liver oil instead of cottage cheese and flax oil, is posted on my website on its own page. Clearing out some bad intestinal bacteria with CS would help if the amount given was high enough for a few hours; using a probiotic blend with three bifidobacteria strains after that plus -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMatthias Rath Book
Two old Italian sayings come to mind: If everyone drank more whey the doctors would be bankrupt; If you want to live a long time, eat vegetables and drink more whey. Without using raw whey as your main source of liquid and drinking several gallons daily you can't get quite enough glutathione precursors naturally. It's much easier to just take a daily whey shake using the powder. But aside fom the crucial glutathione precursors it's possible to get enough of the other antioxidants and most other nutrients from your diet by carefully selecting the food from a worldwide larder as opposed to a regional one. Nature doesn't easily yield optimal nutrition in a single region; 'barely adquate for survival' is the amounts it gives so it takes diligence to do it naturally, and some people don't care for some of the foods, brewer's yeast kelp and aloe smoothies for example. My selenium supplement is concentrated by yeast; I think it's selenomethionine in this form. You can make you own by adding a sprinkle of selenium to the yeast water when you grow your yeast. A new broccoli coming out of Califonia concentrates selenium from the ground water; I don't know if it's on the market yet. Brazil nuts from Brazil (and not fom Central America) contain selenium, and I understand walnuts do too, if they're grown in selenium- rich soil; you have to know which region the nuts are from. Did that help a little? Duncan Whey is a natural food product, albeit concentrated, so I don't know if it still falls into this same philosophical problem or not. I tend toward preferring dietary changes as opposed to taking refined supplements (Let your food be your medicine...etc). Any comments about the whole issue? I assume then that one would need to take only 1 or 2 grams of vitamin C per day with the whey product. What is used for the selenium? I'll have to try to do some reading on your site. Thanks, Dan Dan, you're going to like this -- one 36-gram scoop of undenatured whey provides 3.46 grams of l-lysine. (in the product I use) The proline you need is derived from glutamine, which is also in the whey to the tune of 5.3 grams per serving (as glutamic acid). I get my clients on the whey anyway for the glutathione increase; it's remarkable for reducing inflammation and overactive immunity, and it's also real good for a leaner body mass index. Glutathione recycles vitamin C and other antioxidants too so clients don't need to take a whole whack of C like they might if they followed Rath and Pauling, who in my opinion missed something very important by not evaluating the role glutathione plays ;) and incorporating cold-processed whey and selenium into their regime. Undenatured whey alone has reduced cancer; the research is on my site on the glutathione page. (address below) Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[FW]Water Purifiers/Filters:COMMENT
Mary, Brooks -- One thing to look for in a cartridge water filter is its ability to remove 100% of the arsenic. One patented cartridge filter can do that. http://codebluewater.com I've got a whole page on this topic on my site, with links. Arsenic is a recognized cause of cancer and diabetes. Disease starts at very low chronic exposure levels of about .5 PPB, and most bottled water and nearly all tap water contains more than that. The EPA safe limit for chronic expoure has been newly reduced from 25 PPB to 10 PPB and at that level the risk is thousands of times higher than .5 PPB. Many regions are much higher; find out about your water from surveys that have been done so far; the information is on the site. If your levels average 5 PPB or lower, a little selenium supplementation will help to reduce it futher; above that level you really need the filter. Municipal filter systems are also available. Duncan DEAR BROOKS, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION ON DOULTON, IT HAS BEEN SO VERY FRUSTRATING WHICH TO USE. THANKS AGAIN MARY -- Original message -- From: brooks76009 brooks76...@lycos.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMatthias Rath Book
Dan, you're going to like this -- one 36-gram scoop of undenatured whey provides 3.46 grams of l-lysine. (in the product I use) The proline you need is derived from glutamine, which is also in the whey to the tune of 5.3 grams per serving (as glutamic acid). I get my clients on the whey anyway for the glutathione increase; it's remarkable for reducing inflammation and overactive immunity, and it's also real good for a leaner body mass index. Glutathione recycles vitamin C and other antioxidants too so clients don't need to take a whole whack of C like they might if they followed Rath and Pauling, who in my opinion missed something very important by not evaluating the role glutathione plays ;) and incorporating cold-processed whey and selenium into their regime. Undenatured whey alone has reduced cancer; the research is on my site on the glutathione page. (address below) Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html On 1 Aug 2006 at 9:18, Dan Nave wrote: Thanks for the additional info. The http://www.stopping-cancer-naturally.org/pdf/cancer_book.pdf gives more information on the actual mechanics of stopping the inflammatory process which is also applicable to other inflammatory diseases, which is why I especially liked that one. For more than *just* cancer...;-)) (Heavy on the reasoning for using the C/Lysine/Proline combo. The other books gave some more info about heart disease in particular and the use of additional vitamins as well, but I just skimmed them.) Dan -Original Message- From: Rowena [mailto:new...@aapt.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 3:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMatthias Rath Book http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/pdf-files/why-book/whybook_04_sep2003 .pdf - He also has this one on heart disease which can be downloaded. http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/About_Dr_Matthias_Rath /why_book.html R I would recommend that everyone read the following book by Matthias Rath, M.D. http://www.stopping-cancer-naturally.org/pdf/cancer_book.pdf Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMineral supplement
I highly recommend a liquid mineral supplement called Concentrace. You would need to call the HF stores around you to see if they carry it. I can ship it to folks who cannot find it in their area. We have Concentrace in our stores here, but I chose Organika naturally chelated minerals made from montmorillonite, mainly decayed phytoplankton; it contains all the minerals in ocean balance, in bioavialable form and the product is cheap. I used to buy Body Balance by the box and I'm still using up my last few bottles even though it contains benzene-based preservatives. You've probably heard products thus preserved release benzene in the presence of acidity. I stopped selling the product. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Transfer Factor
Hi Rowena, Tansfer Factors are the immune components of colostrum, not milk, and also egg yolks contain it. Transfer factor donors could be anything that gives milk or lays eggs. Once purified out, there is no trace at all of egg or milk in it and it is non-allergenic on its own. The brand Transfer Factor from 4Life Research is a blend that also contains several immune-enhancing herbs and mushrooms for a synergistic effect. Duncan On 18 Jul 2006 at 14:09, Rowena wrote: Duncan, in a recent post you said about Transfer Factor: 2) it confers immunity to hundreds of pathogens the donor had gained immunity to (so far the donors are chickens and cows but not limited to those); I had always assumed TF was made from milk. Is the chicken component egg or blood? I imagine egg, but I wasn't expecting chickens to be part of the recipe anyway! Not limited to those - do you mean the pathogens, or the donors? eg could the donors also be sheep, horses, turkeys, ducks etc.? Thanks for your many interesting and helpful posts, Duncan. Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria
I'm glad we have so much knowledge about nanobacteria Mike. Maybe there are more than one kind? I mentioned what Becker thought of the origins of life prior to 1985. His current of injury and current of repair investigations yielded lots of information that he presents in his book. I thought the the book's title was kind of appropriate. I couldn't guess about what would happen to an infected infant, or how exposed the infant would be to the infection. I was using the very loose calculation presented to show that increasing the exposure would reduce the time to symptoms if nanobacteria produce symptoms at all. I understand they are everywhere, even in supposedly sterile environments, but only some hosts show symptoms. I've been using Pegasus mail since about 1999, maybe longer. I don't know how to change a reply-to line. Duncan 1. Nanobacteria are clad in apatite, not protein. 2. Body Electric is a misnomer. Electrons do not flow in electrolytes. The current flow in electrolytes, including our bodies, is via anions and cations. As shown in the Theory section on my web site, the movement of charge carriers is dominated by diffusion and convection. In fact, the direction of charge flow may be at right angles, or even opposite to, the direction of an applied electric field. 3. There is no evidence that nanobacteria self-repair. 4. Dunan, earlier, you stated: ~~ ~~ Mike, I consider that if a few bacterial contaminants might replicate enough to cause symptoms in 35-40 years, decreasing the time to symptoms can be accomplished also by increasing these contaminants through a program of repeated exposure. Double the contaminants, half the time to symptoms, and 40 times the contaminants in a short program could produce symptoms in as little as a bit more than a year. [...] Duncan ~~ ~~ Would the symptoms still appear in a year if an infant were infected at birth by a severely infected mother? Please stop trying to redirect my replies so they disappear from the silverlist by changing the Reply-To tag to point to yourself. Regards, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSList Server Software settings
I get the silver list in digest form. If I reply to a post it's me hitting the reply button because I'm reading it at home, so it uses the default reply-to address. The Send To: box is automatically filled in, not to the silver list but to the individual with whom I am corresponding. I have to fill in the silver-list@eskimo.com by hand. So sometimes I delete my correspondent and just send to the group. Duncan Morning Duncan, I've been using Pegasus mail since about 1999, maybe longer. I don't know how to change a reply-to line. When I hit reply on this message, it came up with your email address instead of the list. I had to paste in the silver list address. My main point The Reply TO address is a setting in the list server software. In my list server software, One of the best, if not the very best, has the option to Reply to: The list or Reply to:The Sender This must be the case in the silver list server software. One can use the Reply All option in the mailer and there will be two address on the message, ... they will be the sender and the silver list. You could take the original sender off, and send to only the silver list, or just send both. That is my two bits and that is how my mailer and list server software works. Here is a list of the companies that use the Mailman software. The list is impressive. Many of the worlds largest companies use this software. http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/inthenews.html Since the silver list has no archives, I would highly recommend that Mike consider the change. Setup and configuration is easy and straight forward. It is for Linux and Unix. They say do not try to run it on a WindoZZe machine. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNanobacteria
Interesting that Dr. Robert O. Becker proposed a crystalline origin of life which somewhat later was clad in protein, in his book Body Electric, which was published I think in 1985. He said it was the most probable because it provides the necessary structure, the mechanism to self repair, and a variable current carrying ability are built in properties, or words to that effect. Duncan Later studies by another group reached different results, suggesting peculiar yet inanimate etiology of the disease. A paper published in 2000 by a team led by John Cisar of the US National Institutes of Health proposed that the self-replication was, in fact, an unusual form of crystaline growth, and that contamination may have been the source of the DNA. However, the Cisar group did not as part of their study examine nanobacteria samples from the Kajander group, therefore critics observed that without such a control sample the assertion that these were self-replicating crystals or contamination had not been substantiated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobacteria Nanobacteria have no relation to the pathogens you discussed. Regards, Mike Monett Antiviral Antibacterial Silver Solution: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/index.htm SPICE Analysis of Crystal Oscillators: http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/xtal/clapp.htm Noise-Rejecting Wideband Sampler: http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/sampler/intro.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Immune System ( 20 % )Thymic protein A
Harold, Although thymic protein A sounds good as a supplement on the face of it, near as I can tell it probably won't meet users' and marketers' expectations of being at all useful in oral form. Thymic protein A is an enormous 500 amino acid chain. Compare it with crucially important HGH, at only 191 proteins, and glutathione, a crucially important enzyme only 3 proteins in size; neither absorb orally, sublingually, OR into the bloodstream via the intestine. Proteins are meant to be digested, not directly absorbed, and I think that's what happens. Research does not indicate that thymic protein A absorbs. Marketers mention Beardsley's research test tube work with cell lines, which does not apply. In the animal studies referenced the thymic protein was administered not orally but by injection. If researchers were injecting an *uncooked* foreign homone, of course that's OK in the animal studies but it will be a difficult sell to humans because it's easily contaminated by pleomorphic nanobacteria. I'd wait for the injectable GMO e. coli version, similar to insulin and HGH. Meanwhile we still have transfer factors, which are suitably purified, which are also natural, but unlike thymic protein A they are designed at the outset to be absorbed orally. I think Transfer Factor is the most powerful natural stimulant of the immune response because it works all three facets of immune response: 1) In one formula it increases natural killer NK T-cells by 437%; this unlearned response precipitates an immune cascade of learned responses. 2) it confers immunity to hundreds of pathogens the donor had gained immunity to (so far the donors are chickens and cows but not limited to those); 3) it contains an immunomdulator that will restore or maintain balance to an overactive immune system. And the work has been proven; in fact subsequent to extensive Russian studies the Health Department there made it an official medicine; the first natural product to receive that honour in the country. The often-overlooked glutathione, the body's main immune support and support for every cell, reduces infection of all types as levels rise. Yes, even the dreaded HIV. High glutathione levels are key to a correct reponse. John Britten brought up the point that the thymus shrinks with age and this brings about immune system decline. Thymus size and function are reduced as growth hormone HGH levels drop with age; conversely, thymus size and function are increased with a program that brings HGH back up to youthful levels for awhile. The research has been on my site for years. SomaLife gHP is a specific amino acid blend that is proven to max out HGH release to youthful values with each dose; one could also use HGH injections. Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/SomaLife-gHP -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin C and glutahione
Pat, vitamin C is good, but respiratory issues are nearly always associated with low glutathione, the body's master antioxidant and detoxifier that also functions to recycle spent vitamin C and other antioxidants. What this means to you is that you can continue to use the relatively low vitamin C doses you are now with increased benefit, as all of the vitamin C you do take can be used many times. The research has been there for many years. The lungs are the third biggest users of low glutathione, and even people with COPD respond remarkably well. Been there, done that, several times. I mention this because even when all the other antioxidants are adequate, glutathione depletion results in illness, increased infection, cancer, and degeneration or even death, and is depletion is incredibly common. Glutathione is made from dietary precursors that are very plentiful in cold-processed whey and in trace amounts in most raw food. Sometimes inadequate nitric acid production is an issue but it's nearly always low glutathione. Cold-procesed whey supplies nitric acid prcursors as wel as glutathione precursors. My reference section provides some very interesting studies and a long list of links into the references on PubMed. Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html When I'm having a bad respiratory allergy attack, one (ascorbate) dose usually helps tremendously. My daughter had recommended it, she found it helpful for allergies also. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Immune System ( 20 % )Thymic protein A
Mike, I consider that if a few bacterial contaminants might replicate enough to cause symptoms in 35-40 years, decreasing the time to symptoms can be accomplished also by increasing these contaminants through a program of repeated exposure. Double the contaminants, half the time to symptoms, and 40 times the contaminants in a short program could produce symptoms in as little as a bit more than a year. I don't think your model accounts for natural cell death of the infectious cells, or whether the immune system is working at all on it. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Immune System ( 20 % )Thymic protein A
Thanks for the info Duncan. Harold wrote: This Thymic Protein A from VRP ;I don't think it is totally sublingual absorbing as the directions say to place under the tongue and let dissolve with saliva for 1 to 3 minutes before swallowing.Would this not be digested? I think it would be digested, for the reason of preventing the body from absorbing unwanted hormonal interference from all the creatures we eat for dinner. Hormones are very potent so need very tight control. Again, Beardsley's data shows he injected the thymic protein into the mice to bypass their digestion. What the body DOES absorb is hormonal building blocks, and some direct growth factors such as IGF-1 or cow BGF-1 in cow's milk, which are meant at the outset to be pased along to the young. Duncan Crow Duncan Their bulletin is very detailed re TP-A Harold - Original Message - From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca To: Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: CSThe Immune System ( 20 % )Thymic protein A Harold, Although thymic protein A sounds good as a supplement on the face of it, near as I can tell it probably won't meet users' and marketers' expectations of being at all useful in oral form. Thymic protein A is an enormous 500 amino acid chain. Compare it with crucially important HGH, at only 191 proteins, and glutathione, a crucially important enzyme only 3 proteins in size; neither absorb orally, sublingually, OR into the bloodstream via the intestine. Proteins are meant to be digested, not directly absorbed, and I think that's what happens. Research does not indicate that thymic protein A absorbs. Marketers mention Beardsley's research test tube work with cell lines, which does not apply. In the animal studies referenced the thymic protein was administered not orally but by injection. If researchers were injecting an *uncooked* foreign homone, of course that's OK in the animal studies but it will be a difficult sell to humans because it's easily contaminated by pleomorphic nanobacteria. I'd wait for the injectable GMO e. coli version, similar to insulin and HGH. Meanwhile we still have transfer factors, which are suitably purified, which are also natural, but unlike thymic protein A they are designed at the outset to be absorbed orally. I think Transfer Factor is the most powerful natural stimulant of the immune response because it works all three facets of immune response: 1) In one formula it increases natural killer NK T-cells by 437%; this unlearned response precipitates an immune cascade of learned responses. 2) it confers immunity to hundreds of pathogens the donor had gained immunity to (so far the donors are chickens and cows but not limited to those); 3) it contains an immunomdulator that will restore or maintain balance to an overactive immune system. And the work has been proven; in fact subsequent to extensive Russian studies the Health Department there made it an official medicine; the first natural product to receive that honour in the country. The often-overlooked glutathione, the body's main immune support and support for every cell, reduces infection of all types as levels rise. Yes, even the dreaded HIV. High glutathione levels are key to a correct reponse. John Britten brought up the point that the thymus shrinks with age and this brings about immune system decline. Thymus size and function are reduced as growth hormone HGH levels drop with age; conversely, thymus size and function are increased with a program that brings HGH back up to youthful levels for awhile. The research has been on my site for years. SomaLife gHP is a specific amino acid blend that is proven to max out HGH release to youthful values with each dose; one could also use HGH injections. Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/SomaLife-gHP -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAcid/base balance
The way I understand it is that the key is detox, nutrition and lifestyle, and pH balance will naturally follow. So, pH balance is just an effect, not the key. Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow On 13 Jul 2006 at 7:40, Pat wrote: From what I've been reading, it seems balancing the acid and base in the body is the key to everything. A lot of other great things won't help much if your body can't absorb them and retain them. I wish all of you who have a website would include the address in your signature. I have a hard time finding even the ones I've visited before (too many bookmarks I guess). Thanks to all of you Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpH
Pat, the chief alkalinizing minerals are calcium, magnesium, and potassium, and to a lesser extent many of the trace elements. One of the trace elements, cesium, can be taken in chloride form for pretty fast changes, along with the chief alkalinizing minerals. http://cesium-chloride.com When you buy cesium chloride, if they ask what it's for to cover their ass legally, you say DNA sequencing. Because some mineral compounds such as the aspartates and orotates are much more easily assimilated, you might be interested in calcium and magnesium orotate, the correct type for cellular absorption, from Donna http://excellentthings.com Anyway, it would be a good idea to limit the sugar and increase vitamin D intake too, even if you get some sun. Look at the alkalinizing food chart for food clues, do more juicing and some liver flushes, and use cold-processed whey to reduce toxin load, a lot of which is acid or forms acidic metabolites. The liver is the biggest user of this detoxifier, cancer is reduced and prevented by it, and undenatured whey is mildly alkalinizing anyway. Many people don't realise this but the body's biggest toxin burden can be created by a chronic fluorish of bad bowel bacteria, a condition called dysbiosis. There's about a week of reading on the subject on my site, with references and a method to control and improve that; it's just dietary. Also, some excercise and some lymph brushing will help to recycle all that acidic lymph and slowly replace it with more alkaline lymph. This will allow better oxygen delivery and toxin removal. And, bear in mind that if you lick the pH paper to get a reading you will get an acidic reading. Don't rinse your mouth in the AM and do take the reading as soon as you get out of bed. Make a pool of clean saliva under the tongue and carefully dip the pH paper for an accurate reading. Duncan Crow -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSInteresting article
A couple of years ago I ran into some articles that pointed out that viruses and bacteria commonly swap bits of DNA/RNA back and forth with the host and with each other. Indeed, DNA from GMO bacteria is part of some of the cells of our instestinal lining. This knowledge gives me pause when it comes to accepting a new GMO therapy or food. Duncan http://www.impactlab.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=8680 GM Spray May Eliminate Dental Visits A single dental treatment that involves spraying genetically-modified bacteria into a patient's mouth could cut the risk of cavities by up to 90 per cent, according to new research. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScold pressed whey to duncan
The short answer is yes, whey should be OK to dairy intolerant individuals but it depends on what bovine-specific components are left in the whey when it's processed. Immunocal, a vey pure isolate, is listed in the PDR with well- tolerated even by extremely milk-sensitive individuals. It containins almost exclusively just the proteins that are an exact match across the whole mammalian order. In practice, many milk sensitive individuals tolerate cheaper brands of undenatured whey concentrates just fine, but some have to use a more pure whey isolate instead. Duncan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGlomerulonephritis
My mum has glomerulonephritis, a kidney condition that resulted in her case from child-bearing. Her kidney fuction improved with nutrients, antioxidants and SomaLife gHP, a growth hormone trigger. Growth hormone HGH increases kidney size and function. Clinical data appears on my website. This increase is more apparent in the elderly; in this age group kidney failure is a leading cause of death. Antioxidants especially glutathione precursors are useful for reducing inflammation and toxin load; the kidneys are the second biggest users of this crucial detoxifying antioxidant. This data also appears on my website. This PubMed link will interest you: http://tinyurl.com/rlje8 Here are some related PubMed links: http://tinyurl.com/nrpxe Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow List, I have been asked to find information to help a man tentatively diagnosed with glomerulonephritis, a bladder disease. Cancer has not been ruled out. There is a large mass in one bladder. I hope to find out, quickly: 1)The best method of determining cancerous status. Non-biopsy options would be good to know. If none, the best method of biopsy -- catheter insertion? -- would be helpful. 2)Any and all non-surgical methods of alleviating the condition, if not cancerous. Thanks very much in advance. I have done some basic research, but I am hoping to find some solid ideas pertaining to nutrition, EIS, and other methods. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSChronic Lymphocytic Leukemia
Dan, GEIPE works on cancer for sure and its cheap and simple. It won't cure the cancer on its own but it will shrink it and buy the time needed to mount a campaign. The campaign might include high pH and cesium therapy, ozone, Transfer Factor (4Life Research brand), cold-processed whey for glutathione, topical aloe vera gel with DMSO, that kind of thing. Duncan On 10 Jul 2006 at 9:18, Dan Nave wrote: I have a fellow where I work who has Stage 4 Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia. He has chronically swollen lymph glands in his neck and looks like he has mumps... 65 years old. Does anyone know if CS or Zapping will specifically help this problem? Or any alternative that is specific for this condition? Thanks, Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScancer repost
GEIPE works on cancer for sure and its cheap and simple. It won't cure the cancer on its own but it will shrink it and buy the time needed to mount a campaign. The campaign might include high pH and cesium therapy, ozone, Transfer Factor (4Life Research brand), cold-processed whey for glutathione and wasting, topical aloe vera gel with DMSO, that kind of thing. Glutathione/cold-processed whey was featured in a review of several clinical studies in a Cancer journal; the full review appears in my glutathione references near the top of the page. In a nutshell the undenatured whey shrunk tumours on its own. High-dose with selenium (600-1000 mcg) to enhance this effect due to increased glutathione. I saw studies in which tumours shrunk with selenium alone at around 1100 mcg daily; up to 3200 mics have been used for a year with no long-term issues, just fingernail deformities. I don't think one would need that much if the glutathione precursors are present. I still maintain a page on my site that explains Transfer Factor even though I'm not moving the product. In a nutshell, the Transfer Factor Plus Advanced Formula increases NK cells that eat cancer by 437%; I've recently had two testimonials that it shrunk their tumours in just a month or two. I know someone who got rid of their cancer, and cesium choride was what he used in a program. It's hard to eat; causes upset stomach. Refer to the cesiumtherapy yahoogroup for more. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/cesiumtherapy/ Juicing has been a huge benefit to cancer patients and everyone else. Essiac or one of the other herbal blends like Hoxey or one of the black salves that has an oral form should help too. Essiac was almost made an official cancer cure in Canada for good reason. Many practitioners are swearing by zeolite but I'm still on the fence; it helps to normalize cell function, which is what we want, as opposed to killing all that mass. Toxin reduction is part of the core therapy for cancer; liver flushes etc... download a good liver flush here: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/liverFlush.txt Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSstaph infection
People who do long-term antibiotics risk illness and bowel dysbiosis and candida is assured, and it can be very hard to get rid of. Once the doctors get started that's very hard to change too, but you migh find one who would consider that ozone would be faster, effective, and free of side effects and disease inducement risk. Topical ozonated olive oil sticks well and nothing escapes it, and deep infection responds to ozone bagging. She can also bathe the baby in CS or ozonated water or peroxide water too. Duncan Forgive me if this has already been discussed before, but I was wondering if anyone has any experience in curing a staph infection with CS. I have a friend whose newborn has a staph infection and is spreading. The doctors are beginning IV antibiotics. Any thoughts? Kandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: SOAcquiring information via OBE
You can also download free nospy peer-to-peer software such as Limewire.com and search for binaural beat AKA hemi-sync mp3s through Limewire. Good stuff; I use some of it here at the office when a client wants to zone out. Two birds with one stone -- easy listening plus brainwave entrainment all in one. Duncan Crow On 6 Jul 2006 at 20:20, Carol Ann wrote: Mike, Craig, etc. Try this neat little brain wave generator program. It can be downloaded it at no cost, you can experiment with the presets and it has the Schuman frequency built in as well. Use headphones. Have fun. :) http://www.bwgen.com/ Carol Ann M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Oh, yes. I like the idea mentioned in one of the threads of downloading brainwave programs to an MP3 player. Sounds like it would be fun to experiment with. Have you done anything with those programs, Marshall? Anyone? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-off-topic-list is a moderated forum for silver-list members to discuss topics not appropriate on the main list. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Off Topic List Web archive is currently down. List Owner: Mike Devour Carol Ann ~Those who dared to dance were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music ~ Visit: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action.shtml - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsalt-c and potasium deficiency concern
What concerns me about salt/C is the high amount of sodium, an excellent potassium depletor. Chonic potassium depletion materially increases hypertension, edema, stroke and diabetes risk. This has nothing to do with whether the salt is natural or processed; both contain high sodium. I recommend a balance to my clients and several are reducing their edema and fatigue with potassium salts brand No-Salt instead of table salt. If someone wants to use salt/C for Lyme, jut be aware that it should be balanced with potassium. Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs and boron (to zeb)
Marshalee, I've been stopping athritis and other autoimmune disorders including fatal ones for more than five years, using aspects of my degenerative illnesses protocol posted on my web page. There's too much to go over on this list but what it boils down to is that there has to be a thing or two you're missing in your diet or detox or perhaps how you process certain nutrients that might have to be strongly supplemented. Duncan On 30 Jun 2006 at 15:06, Marshalee Hallett wrote: I read somewhere that arthritis is the end stage of allergic reactions. Anyone else hear of this?? I have been taking CS for over 10 years now, and had no arthritis until recently. I do have a lot of allergies. Marshalee Zeb- I am utterly, fully, thoroughly and absolutely convinced that microbes are at the root of arthritis. More than one kind of microbe. Sorry, can't prove a word of it. Daddybob -- From: zeb caffe [mailto:jamaki...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScs and boron interesting post. I to have heard that boron is a very essential supplement for osteoporosis. When I hear that CS helps pain, it always makes me suspect that the pain is due to some type of bacteria which is one theory about arthritis. Because the cs is killing the bacteria could this be why the pain is less? Then, it would make sense that the the supplements like boron and CMO would help with the damage that the arthritis has already created. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNiacin
Teri, the T-cell lymphoma may respond rather well to blood electrification, glutathione increasers and 4Life Transfer Factor. I have mostly anecdotes and some Russian clinical studies on the Transfer Factor Enhanced, which has since been improved; mostly clinical work on the cold-processed whey as a glutathione increaser used on cancer; mostly anecdotal on the Beck therapy -- lots of anecdotes though, just like for silver. Duncan I want to thank everyone for their responses. Yesterday Gary took the Targretin with breakfast and waited to take the niacin after lunch and he did fine and no flush with either the lunch or dinner dose of niacin. So I feel that it was the drug compo at the same time that he had the reaction too. T-Cell Lymphoma is a blood borne cancer that effects the skin primarily. It causes plaques and intense itching. Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCholesterol for Teri
World-reknowned cholesterol expert Uffe Ravnskov has a good website and book called the Cholesterol Myths. One of the myths he exposes is that cholesterol has never been proven to cause anything; rather, it's a response. Check his credentials; he's not kidding. Duncan On 25 Jun 2006 at 10:19, Greg Ball wrote: Hi Teri - two things that have brought down my husband and my cholesterol naturally and radically: Protein power diet - We both eat this way and it makes a huge difference to our levels. Liver flushing - I was doing a Hulda Clark style liver flush for other reasons and a side effect was that my cholesterol was lowered significantly after doing a couple of them. You can find directions and info on www.curezone.comhttp://www.curezone.com/ There is some risk involved with it, so you should read the site carefully to make your decision about doing it. It's my understanding that a clogged up liver can be a cause of high cholesterol. - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.commailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.commailto:silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2006 #442 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
