RE: CSRe: govt, health and building a new model
Deep gravelly voice. Yeah, moider da bums On 22 Apr 2004 at 17:46, James Holmes wrote: Re: Big Business is attempting to buy up our access to public airwaves and limit our access to 'beyond the prescribed conditioning? programs' Attempting? It seems to me to be a done deal. The UNITED STATES, a corporation, sells the air space to the highest bidders. To protect public decency---whatever that is---and to create the illusion of acting in the best interest of the people, murder fantasies are allowed, but fart noises and sex conversations are forbidden. JOH -Original Message- From: Christine Carleton [mailto:essential-liv...@telus.net] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: govt, health and building a new model William, You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. --- R. Buckminster Fuller What would happen if we got rid of diagnosis and prognosis and let the body make the repairs instead of listening to 'authorities' who seem to produce increasing mortality rates? Outrageous? Is political/pharma game a 'stacked' deck? If it is, how would one go beyond? What would 'Bucky' do? Have you ever considered the body is 'divine' and knows all? (This is aligned with any religion!) If it was, what could it do? What potential would one have with cleaning things up? Big Business is attempting to buy up our access to public airwaves and limit our access to 'beyond the prescribed conditioning? programs'. However, there may be a show that you want to watch on PBS Connections regarding BodyTalk. Could this be a new model like 'Bucky' suggests? Why? Because I know someone was downgraded from MS to Lymes and now is off all disability insurance and back to work. Why watch? Because this was scheduled to be a 30 min segment and has already been chopped to 1/4 of that... PBS Houston has film of a 12 year old boy diagnosed with autism - typical resistance behaviours and not interested in learning. After a number of BodyTalk sessions agreeable behaviour and learning to read were of interest to him. Sorry, I don't know what 'Connections' will finally show by May 7th. There will be a BodyTalk segment on PBS, the Connections show. Dates: Friday, May 7 at 9 p.m. Sunday, May 9 at 5 p.m. The segment will be 5-7 minutes long and will be one of several on the Connections show. This is not dissimilar to what Coyote was talking about with Slim... It's challenging to 'get your head around', but when one starts to see clean air that lasts or when one starts to feel better and better. Who cares about Newtonian science standards of proof? Guidelines in the quantum are different. It's a hard test. Are you the next 'sucker'? Or are you feeling better? What does it mean - no antibiotics? What are the implications of that? Healthwise? Financially? Social political? Corporate stock returns? As 'Bucky' says, build a new model ... Christine Christine Carleton, C.B.P. thebodytalkcli...@telus.net Mike this is not to negate or suggest the CS will not be valuable. All truths rise to the top. I believe it will be and on a far expanded level than we currently employ it on the physical levels. Flu, herpes, virus, bacteria are usually gone within 24-48 hours with BT. Bigger issues take longer. Food quality counts. CS, DMSO, Vit. C, etc. count --- you know --- the ones that seem harder and harder to find. In the US most of the diagnostic disease descriptive language is legally licensed for use only by a qualified allopathic doctor (MD). In pure legal terms and liability I am not licensed MD and cannot say the 'C' word unless in the privacy of a private personal conversation preferably at home. Other ailments like arthritis, asthma --- about 50+ sick goodies cannot be spoken about because under Canadian law legally they are 'incurable' - only remission is possible. An MD can loose his right to practice if he prescribes clean water, food or vitamins minerals before a pharmaceutical - (Knop vs College of Ontario Physicians and Surgeons (CPSO)- 1999). Few of us are MD's, so maybe we do not need to 'buy it and the degrading deterioration' if we want to feel better. Been there, done that, moved on. :) :) :) From: William Meyer calis...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:09:27 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: goverment and health Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 03:54:06 -0700 let me mention some specifics. i cannot legally home test my saliva here in new york for hormone levels. i tried sending my samples through a third party (a friend), but i am still bein locked out currently. this is against my health and freedom. a federal agency recently
Re: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side?
Hi James, Nah, the massive doses of DMSO (10 g/kg of bunny over 3 months made them slightly shortsighted but did NOT affect opacity. Also the bunnies had been used for a previous experiment involving laxative (from memory) which might have distorted the results. I'll find that and scan it. But you are probably right about the rest. Tony On 2 May 2004 at 21:31, James Holmes wrote: There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits. They developed cloudy areas in the lens. No one has been able to make it happen again. Most think it is a scam to discredit a cheap and effective substance. JOH -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO - other side? Garnet, Can you point me to any details about the ocular effects in rabbits? I use a little DMSO in my nebulizing and ear drop mix for my bunny, and sure don't want to hurt his eyes. Were those tests done actually putting DMSO into the eyes? My little guy is deaf, so he certainly doesn't need his vision impaired. paula Garnet wrote: (DMSO) It was banned for human use when it was found in the 60's to have ocular effects in rabbits, the standard lab model for eyes. Well it does not do this to primates or humans. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCleaning Electrodes
Hi Linda, A quick wipe with a clean dry paper towel is usually good enough to remove all the loose black or brown stuff. To prevent losing good valuable silver I avoid any abrasive cleaning material. As a generality, nylon is a tough, smooth, fairly slippery, plastic with which holds its shape quite well. Err, you could use a toothbrush or something like that if you want to follow those instructions. I'd recommend NOT to use steel wool, or 3m or Scotch abrasive pads or any of the cleaning liquids or pastes. Tony On 3 May 2004 at 22:45, Linda Jones wrote: I've read that to clean the electrodes, you should use a nylon scrub pad, and then wipe with a plain white paper towel. How do you tell what kinds of scrub pads are nylon? I got some Scotch multi-purpose pads, that are blue, and some Scotch heavy duty pads that are green. But they don't say anywhere on the package what they are made of. I looked everywhere, trying to find some sort of scrub pads that were labeled as nylon, and couldn't find anything that specified what it is made out of. Linda Jones lin...@hamilton.net -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?
Thats probably 25kV output. Drain on a 9 or 12 v battery would be in the region of 350mA but even that is over hefty IMHO. Tony On 13 May 2004 at 10:15, M. G. Devour wrote: Daddybob asks: So does anyone know how to build a homemade Spider Bite Zapper circuit with the specs of 25,000 volts and 350 milliamps? Or is there a particular stun gun that can be bought and modified, and if so how to modify? Ummm, guys? Before you go running off to build something like this would you please check those specs? It seems to me that over 1/3 of an amp at 25 kilovolts is a rather large amount of energy -- likely lethal. It's certainly enough to stop the heart if used in the wrong spot. I don't think that's what the designers had in mind. frown Did somebody mistake milliamps for microamps, or picoamps? Be careful out there... Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and fungi
Hi Paul, Are you saying that doing the nasal flooding is not recommended or that part of the procedure is not recommended?? I've tried something like that but could not escape getting the CS saline into my eyes when rolling over. So the idea of holding my nose to stop the leaks until ready to snort out should be good. I usually park a chair next to the bath and lie back over the edge of the bath. Also I add a drop or two of lugols iodine to the solution. Thanks, Tony On 15 May 2004 at 11:27, Paul Holloway wrote: Hi, This might be a good place to mention my experiences with fungal sinusitis. Four years ago I developed severe sinusitis, with incapacitating pain, and other strange symptoms - a burning tingling numbness down both arms and legs, dizziness, nausea, and a horrible feeling in my head. My memory was shot and I felt extremely ill. Conventional doctors said there was no problem with my sinuses and suggested antidepressants. I started doing nasal rinses with saline and my wife said she could smell mold coming from my sinuses. She then started to develop similar symptoms. I tried CS as a rinse with some success, but the main problem seemed to be above my eyes, in my frontal sinuses. The nasal rinsing was great at getting at my maxillaries (behind the cheekbones) and ethmoids (behind the top of the nose) but not the frontals. Then I came across a sinus flooding technique, which used a CS and saline mix. You lie on a bed with your head hanging off it backwards and filled the nose with the mix, and left it for 2-3 minutes, then turned over with your head hanging down forwards, holding the nose, and soaked for a further 2-3 minutes. Then you snorted it all out, waited 40 minutes and did it again (to remove loosened deposits). PLEASE NOTE THIS PROCEDURE IS NOT RECOMMENDED - I think it moves infection around the sinuses and into the eustachian tubes, especially the first part with the head backwards. This seemed to help a lot with the sinus pain and other symptoms. Then I had a batch of CS that was left for too long and had turned a dark yellow-brownish colour. I didn't want to drink this, but thought I would try using it in the sinus flooding procedure. To my horror, some clumps of brown fibrous material came out of my nose, about a teaspoonful of it in clumps. Luckily I had a small microscope, and took a look. It was clearly fungus of some sort, with hyphae, fruiting bodies and hundreds of spores clearly visible. After comparing it to photos on the internet, the shape of the fruiting bodies and the size and shape of the spores, I concluded it was aspergillus fumigatus, a common pathogenic fungus. I worked in a pathology lab at the time, and sent off some of this material to the fungal lab. They cultured aspergillus fumigatus. By this time my wife was also washing similar material out of her nose. Unfortunately my doctors still did not take this seriously, even though aspergillus is know to be a serious problem in some people. We continued washing this foul stuff out every day, and doing many alternative things to eliminate it, including a magnetic pulser, and after several months it seemed to have come to an end. We both have no more fungal symptoms but have been left with a susceptibility to bacterial infections in our sinuses, and impaired immune response. This is gradually resolving. Anyway, I am pretty sure that dark CS stains aspergillus a brown color, and I suspect it may somehow dislodge the stuff from the sinuses. Silver is used as a fungal satin for microscopy, so I think I stumbled accidentally on a procedure that would both dislodge the stuff, and make it visible. I would like to get someone else with aspergillus sinusitis to try this. I did join a list for aspergillus sufferers, but none of them was interested in trying any of my suggestions. I was constantly attacked by a man whose wife had aspergillus, who said that my suggestions were dangerous and wouldn't work and that CS would turn them all blue. Everyone seemed to believe him and carried on whining that their steroids and surgery were not working. Unbelievable. Anyway, I hope this is of some help to those who suspect they may have a fungal infection. It might even prove useful as a diagnostic procedure. Best wishes, Paul H -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and fungi
Bill, I usually make up half a cup for a sinus washing session. About 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon table salt in 1/4 cup hot water. Stir to dissolve and add homemade CS to about 1/2 cup level. Then take a 50ml plastic syringe, fill that and assume the position lying backwards over the edge of the bath, and gently flow the solution into one nostril first 'til the drowning sensation starts, then a bit more cs/salt in the other nostril so it doesn't feel left out. I lie back as long as I can but gagging starts fairly soon. Roll over, spit, blow and the disgusting produce. Do again, starting with the other nostril etc and repeat until the solution is finished. Tony On 16 May 2004 at 7:41, Bill Brainerd wrote: I assume you use sea salt to make the saline solution, but how much salt do you put into the CS? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Glass vs Plastic debate..
Hi, A few points which don't seem quite correct to me: They talk of silver solution but NOT of colloidal silver or ionic silver or EIS. It would seem to me that silver nitrate or silver protein solutions which is maybe what they wer using, would be different from CS . Pure conjecture on my part here; It is possible that there is something in the plastic that is poisoning the Staph!! I wonder if they did a control of distilled water in the plastic and glass tubes. Also 2.5ppm and 5ppm seem very very high for invitro. I would expect an order or two of magnitude less. I wonder why they have to use such a strong solution. I understand that a teaspoon or two of 5ppm CS in a gallon of milk will stop it curdling. That is in the order of about 0.01 ppm. Which is about 100 times less than they are speaking of. ??? Tony On 24 May 2004 at 1:08, scl...@netzero.com wrote: Anyone find these comments to be true? This is an article from ABL labs web page. The findings suggest that plastic may be better than glass for cs storage. Does ABL use plastic for there ASAP solution? Thanks Steve Silver in Glass vs. Plastic Containers Introduction A great deal of controversy has arisen in the market place on the question of whether it is better to store silver solutions in glass versus plastic containers. There is a misconception that has prevailed in the market place that glass is better. The idea that glass containers are better for storing products which contain silver has never been proven scientifically. In fact, it has been reported in other studies that glass may have a detrimental effect on silver products. Test Work I have been conducting biological studies for 3 years, in the laboratory of a major private institution, on the use of silver products to kill and inhibit the growth of bacteria. I have conducted thousands of tests on numerous strains of pathogenic bacteria. In the testing I have completed, I have used both glass (5 ml glass test tubes) and plastic (Falcon 5 ml polypropylene plastic test tubes). In some of the test work we found that there was a difference in the amount of silver that was needed to kill the bacteria when glass was used versus plastic test tubes. In order to make sure this was the case, it was decided that the MIC tests (Minimum Inhibitory Concentration) should be replicated by more than one person and a direct comparison was made. The MIC tests were performed in triplicate in both 5 ml 13X100mm glass test tubes and 5 ml Falcon polypropylene plastic test tubes. Results of the bacterial (MIC) tests showed that Staphylococcus aureus was inhibited at 2.5 ppm! when the MIC test was performed in the plastic test tubes. S. aureus was inhibited at 5 ppm when the MIC test was performed in glass test tubes. This suggested that the material with which the test tubes were made, specifically glass or plastic, may have effected the results of the MIC test. Numerous other tests were also completed using larger concentrations of bacterium and in those tests it was found that there was no significant difference at all between using the glass test tubes versus plastic test tubes. Other Studies The studies which I performed are not the only tests showing that glass, in some circumstances, may have a detrimental effect on silver products. It has been noted in another independent study which has been cited by other researchers that silver can adsorb to glass (Chambers 1960; Thurman 1989). With this in mind, it may have been possible that the silver could have adsorbed to the surface of the glass test tubes reducing the concentration of available silver interacting with the bacteria which resulted in having to use a higher amount of silver to kill the bacteria when the glass test tubes were used. Conclusion In the test work I have completed as well as in other available studies, it was found that glass may, in some cases, have a detrimental effect on silver products. While it can be said that glass did not always show the detrimental effect, it can also be stated that we found no problems at all with using the plastic instead of glass. Our tests, in conclusion with the other available independent study (1Chambers et al. and 2Thurman et al.), would suggest, by inference, that silver products should not be stored in glass containers which could reduce the available concentration of silver, but rather in a high quality plastic container. Respectively, David A. Revelli, MS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive:
RE: CSGold CS
She Googled it !! :) Tony On 11 Jun 2004 at 22:14, James Holmes wrote: Brooks' group says there is not point in using more than 10%. Yeeowwwch!. How can you possibly know? JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:02 PM To: Silver List Subject: Re: CSGold CS I would advise him to start with a low DMSO concentration, say 10% and work up so that he does not cause irritation. Yeoowwwch! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethySulfoxide-DMSO Garnet On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 12:14, brick...@aol.com wrote: I made up 2 pints of dark gold CS that tested around 35 PPM and used them for sinus flushes with my Grossan water pick. Dark black stuff came out after a flush. I tried regular 10 PPM CS and did not notice the black stuff. Paul may have found that the burnt CS does something for sinus problems. A friend has cysts on his testicles. I told him that DMSO works for internal cysts and a CS/DMSO spray could maybe reach the cysts. Any ideas? Brickey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS Home brewing problems
Hallo Dave, to lower the current: You could try placing the electrodes further apart. 50 or 60mm You could use a lower voltage. Like 9v from a battery. Or less. You could try to purchase distilled water BP or CP from a Chemist or from university physics or chemistry laboratory. I'll send you details of my current control CS generator on sale in UK. Tony Moody On 22 Jun 2004 at 14:29, Dave Lewis wrote: Marv wrote: Instant high conductivity indicates that the water is not adequately distilled (assuming you have not added salt or other contaminants). As a test, try a batch using Walgreen's Distilled Water with nothing added. Best regards, :) Marv End quote: I live in the UK. Does anyone know where to buy off the shelf distilled water for drinking? It's not that common here. That's why I tried making my own ; Dave. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStelephone CS maker
Wayne, I think it is highly irresponsible of you to be encouraging inexperienced people to work with relatively high voltage. You have vast experience and are also a major hero in many ways. Most people are not in your category. OK? Tony On 24 Jun 2004 at 22:17, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Evening Marshall, No that should not cause a problem unless you are in contact with the water or electrodes when it rings. Everyone needs to experience this shock a few times. Most people can -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoes oral CS help?
Hi Roger, I tend to take EIS only I when need it. Then I take a lot of it in one day, say, for an incipient cold. Or if I happen to eat something that shouts back at me. However for anything chronic such as sinus or a lung infection or a gut infection I would take it long term. And use nasal flooding, nebulizing, enemas etc to get it where it is needed. So, for me, in general, a short course of high dosage EIS for acute problems and long term low dosage for chronic conditions. Also when I have taken EIS long term I have taken a break periodically. Like two days on one day off. or seven on 1 off; I listened to my body. YMMV Tony On 1 Jul 2004 at 21:58, Roger D Ragain wrote: Hello Everyone, When people ask about taking cs to help with respriatory or lung problems, they are told it's best to use cs with a neulizer or a cool mist ultrasonic humidifer. I understand the cs gets there quickly this way. I was wondering why these 2 products are promoted by some list members? Are they for those who don't take cs daily and need a rapid healing at certain times of the year? I'm not opposed to the products just trying to educate myself as I had question about it the last few days. Thanks, Roger Roger Ragain Cahokia, Illinois United States of America E-mail: rrag...@juno.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in Plastic Bottles?
Heidrun, There has been discussion of this previously on this list. The hard clear plastic should be fine; polycarbonate. Avoid the softer, milky coloured plastic because this in general allows chemicals to leach into the CS. OK, Tony On 8 Jul 2004 at 16:22, Heidrun Beer wrote: Date forwarded: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:22:38 -0700 From: Heidrun Beer hb...@sgmt.at To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:22:33 +0200 Organization: The Headquarter Forwarded by: silver-list@eskimo.com Send reply to: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSCS in Plastic Bottles? Somebody just told me that CS shouldn't be kept in plastic bottles. Is that true, and if yes, then why? I am using used mineral water bottles and never observed a problem. Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: mold
On 19 Jul 2004 at 6:17, Paul Holloway wrote: I'm just suffering a relapse of mold - aspergillus - in my sinuses. I was getting sinusitis, and getting other unpleasant symptoms, so I did a sinus flooding with CS and washed out lots of fungal hyphae. Does anyone know for sure that CS will kill mold, especially aspergillus? I'm assuming that I have previously killed any growing mold, but that there are spores that are more difficult to kill. I have started using pao d'arco as well as CS and DMSO as a nasal rinse, but I am wondering if the CS really helps. Any ideas very welcome. I thought I had beaten this and am feeling a bit demoralised. Paul H Hi Paul, I have recently been using lugols iodine diluted 4 drops per glass as a nasal irrigation. Alternating with with CS I would add a Hulda Clark type zapper to your protocol. Someone on this list recommended something like to hold the electrodes in fists and place knuckles on either side of nose, pressing the cheek bones. Can be done for long periods by leaning on elbows. I hope I got this right. It was Chuck or Dean. Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEMERGENCY
Dear Gladys, If I were going to have surgery, I would start taking huge doses of vitamin C immediately. say 1000mg (1 gram) per hour throughout my normal awake hours. I would also request that vitamin C be adminised IV during the surgery. Tony On 27 Jul 2004 at 0:21, Gladys Williams wrote: Dear List-- If I have ever failed to say thank you in the past please forgive me. You guys always come through and your responses are always great. Thank you so much. V is a good friend. I am supplying her with CS. She is drinking about 3 cups of 10ppm per day. However, I just can't seem to get the DMSO concentration straight in my head. She bought 70% DMSO/ 30% Aloe Vera. We were doing 3 drops (70%) DMSO and 30 drops CS. Is that correct or should it be the other way around? I am so lost. This is so important, she is facing surgery on Thursday. Somebody please tell me. And should she be drinking the same concenttration??? Also when we get it straight can I use the same concentration on my legs. I have lower limb lymphedema that is getting worse every day? Thanks in advance. Gladys -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
Hi Revonda, I think you might find that adding more H202 will get it to clear again. Either way it should still be OK for consumption. That is assuming that the peroxide is pure. Also I have found that the cloudiness comes back on standing for a week or so. As a generality if I add H2O2 it is for the days use, not for long term storage. Tony On 17 Aug 2004 at 1:28, Revonda Henderson wrote: After completing a batch of CS I added 5 drops of peroxide (3%) to about 30oz of CS. It immediately began turningto acloudy white consistency. I had read that by adding the peroxide to the cs it would cause the tiny silver particles to break up into even more minute particles. Is the cloudy white consistency normal? Thanks, Revonda -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsource of silver NZ
Dear Elle, I am in South Africa so we are in a sort of similar situation. I get my silver rods from a manufacturing jeweller. Also I could get it from a precious metals supplier like Johnson Matthey. Which used to be Garrett, Davidson Matthey (NZ) , 85 Albert St., Auckland. If you like I could give you a quote. Airmail is not too costly and is very quick. Please let me know what sizes and quantities you would like. I normally supply Fine silver in 2.5mm diameter rods. The hassle would be your customs regulations Best regards, Tony Moody On 12 Sep 2004 at 0:15, elle roberts wrote: Can anybody provide me with a source of silver obtainable in NZ? The shipping costs are so high from USA that I end up paying more for the shipping. Cheers elle Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra Broadband Channel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic- l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSoff topic. White noise sound generator
Hi Roger, I can make you one. I'll contact you off list. Tony On 17 Sep 2004 at 17:39, Roger Barker wrote: I've been asked to source a white noise sound generator and am wondering if anyone on the list is familiar with these machines? Any help greatly appreciated. Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html Tony Moody -- A I Moody, PO Box 24, Hogsback 5721, Eastern Cape, South Africa Tel/Fax : 045 962 1131 Cellphone : 073 270 6411 email : a...@new.co.za -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[List Owner] Politics on the Silver List...
excoriates. !! Must remember that one. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?
Hi Theresa, Strep will often encapsulate itself in mucous. CS doesn't easily make its way through fats, oils or mucous. I have fixed my own sore throats using CS in the past not sure of exact protocol that I used. However gargling with salt water will liquify the mucous and then gargling with CS will clear some of the infection. I would also sip lemon juice too. Maybe on an hourly gargling cycle. Together with taking the CS. Your chiro might be able to tell you if you have a focus of infection. I suspect sinuses or a tooth. which may be what is stressing you and your system. Try to find that focus and fix that. Be well, Tony On 22 Sep 2004 at 0:01, tlwid...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hello all-- A question: My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus, discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to see if my adrenal glands were working right.] I have been regularly drinking 4 oz. of CS at 8 ppm. I have upped this to 6 oz. It's been several weeks and I am still testing positive, according to the muscle test. Any thoughts about this? Thanks Theresa --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.765 / Virus Database: 512 - Release Date: 9/16/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: ParaZapper
Hi Gwylynda, I have made and sold the Parazap in the past, maybe this is what you have? This was a basic Hulda Clark Zapper and set to 32kHz . Most of those had a built in timer which switched off after about 7 minutes. I do not feel anything or even sense whether it was switched on or off. If you have a meter to measure dc volts you should get about 4.5 to 3.5 volts with a, respectively, fresh and nearly depleted 9volt battery. The meter will indicate half the actual voltage, because the output is a square wave which is off half the time Can you describe the device? It might come from someone else. Tony On 4 Oct 2004 at 13:55, Dave and Gwlynda Irek wrote: I was wondering if anyone is using the Para Zapper. I do not feel anything when I hold the paddles and was wondering if anyone does feel a tingling or something? Thanks Gwlynda Tony Moody -- A I Moody, PO Box 24, Hogsback 5721, Eastern Cape, South Africa Tel/Fax : 045 962 1131 Cellphone : 073 270 6411 email : a...@new.co.za -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRingers solution
Ringers Solution NaCl9.0 gram/litre KCl 11.5 gram/litre CaCl2 12.2 gram/litre from Medical Microbiology -- Cruikshank hth, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSQuestion about coconuts...
I think he is suggesting that they are wing nuts . On 6 Oct 2004 at 19:37, ransley wrote: Herx- are you suggesting that coconuts are migratory? -Original Message- From: herx [mailto:her...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:29 AM To: eScribe Silver List Subject: Re: CSQuestion about coconuts... Mike, try using two African Swallows to carry the coconut to you. It s too heavy for one Swallow, and European Swallows are too small! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSproblem replying to list
Hi Sol, That happened to me for a while because I was sending from another email address; different to the one that I used to sign onto the list. I believe that Mike Devour can change to suit your needs. But from memeory it was as simple as applying for membership from your new email address. hth. Regards, Tony On 7 Oct 2004 at 21:22, sol wrote: Hi all, I cannot reply to any silverlist message. All my replies get returned. Then I have to do a whole cut and paste of everything into a new email and that way it goes through, but it is a big inconvenience. This has been going on for many days now. Any ideas? So far this isn't happening to any of my other email list memberships, just the silverlist. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS(Fwd) Avoid flu shots, boost immunity
This makes a lot of sense to me. Tony --- Forwarded message follows --- From: askbillsardi.com bsa...@aol.com To: Newsletter subscriber a...@new.co.za Subject:Avoid flu shots, boost immunity Date sent: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:08:12 -0700 Scare tactics are being used to promote flu shots, but suddenly there aren't enough flu shots to go around. What to do? Why not skip the flu shot altogether this year since they haven't been effective against circulating strains of the flu in recent years. Health reporter Bill Sardi investigates what you can do to beat the common cold and the flu this year at www.askbillsardi.com. [http://www.askbillsardi.com/sdm.asp?pg=flu_report] --- End of forwarded message --- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBells Palsy
Hi David, You could tweak your toes, usually on the opposite side to the affliction. concentrate your work on the tips and the balls of the toes, quite hard; enough to get you to say 'ouch' The work is not so much a rub as it is a press in and roll slightly. But also work the neck of each toe and and the top and side of each toe too. This should cause re-establishment of nerve pathways in your head and face. Also you can tweak the fingers in the same manner as above. The really sore spots are what need the most work :) Usually these are tiny pinprick areas. All the best, Tony On 17 Oct 2004 at 19:36, David wrote: I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSInquiry
Hallo MA, Ja, Well, No, Maybe. If I were really ill with a chronic problem then I would start off with low doses, say once a day, and monitor my progress. I stop taking CS for a day or two if the going gets tough; but keep at it. In this case of chronic problem then taking lots of strong CS at frequent intervals, might get me into trouble from massive die-off and not being able to detox quickly and easily enough. On the other hand . If I am generally healthy and get the signs of a cold, 'flu, herpes or effects of bad food etc then I would take massive doses of CS and take that often if necessary. ymwv, Tony On 19 Oct 2004 at 12:12, marmar...@aol.com wrote: A friend of mine joined the list not too long ago, and has been quietly reading your posts. As a consequence, he brought something to my attention that I must have missed when I was out of town recently -- and that was that someone on this list said that there is a finite amount of CS that will do a person any good and that one must be careful not to take too much CS too fast, or they will use up their tolerance in a year's time or so, and it will never do them any good again. What the heck is THAT about? I've always heard the opposite -- that neither your body, nor pathogens, can build up a tolerance against CS. Could whoever made this statement please elaborate?MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is - Diet for dogs and humans
Hi Nenah, I have been told that dogs that eat grass do that to get rid of parasites. Certainly have seen them do that often. They seem to regurgitate some of the grass and let some go through. I use Lugols iodine plus CS for mouth infections and I feel that they are synergistic. I sometimes use weak solution of H2O2 straight. hth, Tony On 21 Oct 2004 at 11:35, Nenah Sylver wrote: Hello Garnet. I have thought about that quite a bit, actually, Garnet, both in relation to feeding it to myself and to my dogs. I've come to terms with it for the following reasons: 1) I do vary the veggies I feed the dogs; it's often a combination of veggies and not only/always broccoli. 2) Steaming the broccoli first destroys the component that lowers thyroid function. Throwing out the water in which the broccoli was lightly cooked gets rid of that component. So sometimes, especially during colder weather, I heat the broccoli first. 3) My dogs are, simply put, healthier when they eat broccoli than when they don't, even if the brocolli is raw. Animals in the wild -- including wolves -- go for the stomach and its contents of the prey that they kill. They do this to get the greens ingested by the prey animal! I've noticed that when I don't give my dogs enough greens, the little one especially will deliberately graze on grass, like a goat or a cow, for long periods. I've never seen anything like it. 4) I put nori and other seaweeds into my dogs' food. Sometimes they will take roasted nori sheets and eat them plain. All this said, I can take the Edgar Cayce iodine I have and give them a drop or two, either in their food or in their water bowl, which contains pure colloidal silver. Does anyone know if this will negatively react with the silver? Thanks. Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments
Dear Dan, I have seen one of those running. It was about 1 mouse power, and rotated fairly slowly and steadily, like about 100rpm. there was a bit of torque but I could easily slow it with finger pressure on the shaft. It was basically 4 rotating coils and 4 stationary magnets all in a NSNS orientation. The wheel and frame were of wood and a steel shaft in bearings. Had a star shaped brass piece on the end of the shaft which was one part of the commutator. the other contact had an adjustable advance/retard mechanism for tuning for no sparking. Not very impressive power or speed -wise. What was really remarkable was that the local taxi drivers brought their dead batteries for recharging. Free. there were about a dozen 12volt batteries on the floor all connected in parallel. Tony On 21 Oct 2004 at 13:05, Dan Nave wrote: I should have said that free energy is not here and not well developed. It is not here. It is not developed. If it is, show me something that actually works. I haven't been able to find anything, in spite of searching for it. 0snip0 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloidal silver
Hi V.Jean.G., I am not a dr. Just a mr fixit engineer. A teaspoon a day is a minute dose if you are taking the home made variety which concentration is in the order of 5ppm to 20ppm. If what you are taking is 100ppm or 500ppm then you are taking a fair sized dose per day. It is great that you are getting a reaction from the CS. that means something is happening. The eyes, sleeplessness and tinnitus would seem to indicate that your body is switching on and awakening. Which would be a good thing unless it happens too quickly. The numbness and imbalance could be because the awakening is temporarily taking place more on one side or place than another, that the awakening and enlivening is meandering along like a small lazy river but will eventually be in full flow, bank to bank. I suppose it is similar to when a limb goes to sleep due to sleeping on it for instance. The pins and needles as it wakes up can be excruciatingly uncomfortable for a short while. If I could tolerate the symptoms then I would carry on with the 1 teaspoon per day, but monitor what is happening. If the symptoms are intolerable I would reduce the dose by half for a few days and if still intolerable thenreduce by half again. All the time monitoring myself and what is happening. Increasing or decreasing the daily dose to stay within the bounds of comfort and progress. Would love to hear of your experiences and progress, good or bad. Tony On 21 Oct 2004 at 17:28, V.Jean.G. wrote: Since I had no directon other than on the bottle label, I took one teaspoon colloidal silver daily and got worse. I have a serious neurological disease caused by a virus. Been seeing doctors for forty years but still haven't found help. In the past three weeks, symptoms increased involving the eyes, sleeplessness, imbalance, tinnitus, and numbness. I would appreciate information on colloidal silver for a viral disease. Thank you! V.Jean.G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
Was Subject: RE: CSOxy Life Oxygen Hallo Garnet, I think you have put the cart before the horse a bit. ( relax, I'm on your side ;-\ ) Yeasts are in the gut and are normally in the round egg shaped form which is their unstressed, happy form. Any stress upon the host will probably throw a stress on the candida etc., some of which which promply change to the long, thin, sharp, unhappy form ( for survival?) The thin, sharp cells may now penetrate the gut and go places they don't normally go to. ( to avoid the stress?) Of course having yeast growing in the wrong places is an additional stress on the host and this would most likely lead to a symphony of sensitivities and allergies. For example some sort of stress ( heat , cold, fear, anger etc) causes me to be flooded with adrenalin and corticosteroids, OK. These and their breakdown products end up in the gut which must have an effect on the gut flora. they must have a mechanism for surviving these strong chemicals. If this survival mechanism adds to my stress load then I become sensitised to any and all stresses. This above doesn't change any facts or observations but it does change the sequence in that the yeast problem is caused by stress in the host in the first place. Not the otherway round : that yeast is the prime source of stress. So if the original stress can be found and reduced, then the unhappy penetrating yeast will change form to the happy round form. ta da ... fairytale ending. Haven't got to the role of CS yet . Comments please, Tony On 21 Oct 2004 at 18:36, Garnet wrote: I forgot to mention the role Candida Overgrowth has in chemical sensitivity. Many are much improved if not cured by getting rid of the dysbiosis in their gut. I know I was. Candida makes the gut wall leaky. When partically digested food enters the peritoneal cavity the body regards it as a foreign substance and responds with antibody formation and subsequent sensitivity. Garnet On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 15:58, Sally Khanna wrote: Hmmm, this is very interesting. Sally Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net wrote: It may not be called the MDR1 or be a single gene but there is a proven genetic component (Irish, English Native American populations) to multiple chemical sensitivity which could be said, in a broad sense to cover this type of sensitivity. MCS is a condition with many factors, some of which are the porphyrin enzyme systems or lack there of a component to be more correct -- this is thought to be genetic, could be induced and also may be sex linked with women showing greater tendencies. Also MCS relates to liver function, total load, Kindling (sensitivity in brain centers to molecule quantities of VOC that access the brain directly through the Olfactory and Trigeminal cranial nerves in the nasal septum, Bell et al). Also complicated by IgE mediated Type I Allergy, and poorly functioning or sensitized immune systems. In the case of the MD! R1 gene it likely involves the ability to metabolize the agent. We know that sight hounds are very sensitive to anesthetics, however, this is due to their lack of body fat where the agents depot from the systemic circulation -- less body fat means higher blood levels. I am not sure though if they have shown a slower metabolism in sight hounds for these agents as well. Garnet On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 11:26, Sally Khanna wrote: Garnet, Is this gene exclusive to dogs, or is it found in humans also? Sally Garnet wrote: On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 00:10, David W Kenney wrote: No...one person did go blind and almost caused DMSO to be taken off the market totally. This all happened when they first learned of its properties to relieve inflammation (and pain) in arthritis which is how it was usually used! . People would rub it on sore joints. It wasn't rabbits. However since there have been few if any problems with DMSO in the last 30 years it suggests that DMSO wasn't the etiology of the blindness anyway. Rabbits are the medical model for study eye effects of pharmaceutical agents. Problem is that they are uniquely sensitive to DMSO so are not consider a valid model for humans in this instance. Dogs too have been reported to have some occular effects with prolonged use. I
CSglass bottles
Just to rock the boat a bit. I worked in a brewery and all the bottles had a very thin plastic lining melted on inside. This was specified to reduce breakages. No i do not know any more that; it was 20 years ago. Tony subject was Re: CS On 28 Oct 2004 at 10:28, Garnet wrote: Me too Sally. I only buy organic juices in glass and most of the time I prefer to make my own juices fresh, mostly veggie since the fruit juices have too much sugar for my metabolism. Garnet On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 10:29, Sally Khanna wrote: So in effect, you can cure them? Thanks for that. It's much more convenient to be able to use these bottles than glass, but I won't buy organic juices that are in PET plastic. I no longer consider them organic! Sally Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: It normally is not solvents. Normally what is outgassed from any plastic is either the monomer, or plasticizing agents. Soft plastics such as PVC will outgas the monomer such as vinyl chloride, and hard plastics that have a plasticizer added to them to make them soft will outgas the plasticizer. They are both especially nasty, usually both carcinogenic as well as immune suppressive. BTW, I have found that putting many plastics in the oven set to 150 F for 24 hours that is adding any taste to water or EIS will outgas pretty well all of it in the oven, and not do that after baking. Marshall Garnet wrote: I was unaware of this. I was under the impression that only soft plastics outgassed their solvent. The thermoset plastics supposedly do not out gas anything. If this is true I would not use PET pastic. Garnet 8 snippped -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out.
I feel much happer using SS than enamel ware. The enamel develops tiny cracks in which germs lurk i am sure and also those tiny chips of glass have to go into the food. Right? Stainless steel in general does not lose surface unless abraded, so be gentle with it. I would guess that more nickel/chrome comes off the edge of knife and ends of fork tines than is 'cooked' off into the food in a stainless pot. Why not 'silver plate' the inside of your SS ware after cleaning it. Any methods out there? Tony On 29 Oct 2004 at 15:41, sol wrote: So if I get this stuff and use it a couple months a year, do I still have to throw out my brand new set of SS pans? And here was me, thinking I was doing good by gradually getting rid of aluminum pans over the years. sol twllLL wrote: IP6 This stuff is suppose to chelate heavy metals from your body lots of other stuff.Its made from rice bran extract. You don't need to take it all year long. Take it for a couple of months twice a year. Hulda Clark says SS gets into womens breast causes breast cancer too. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwhite swollen knuckles
Hi Adrienne, That is intriguing. I have had several reports from people who use home made CS for arthritis, specifically for reducing pain and swelling. Could you tell us what brand of CS you are using, and also the concentration of silver, usually expressed in ppm. And how much were you taking? Are your knuckles painful or uncomfortable in any way? Personally I find that taking CS is generally soothing, cooling and has an alkalising effect in the body. Tony On 1 Nov 2004 at 11:40, Adrienne Elliott wrote: I stopped taking it for 6 mos. and started again and they started getting bigger again so I stopped. I have to find the man who told me about CS, he knows how to get rid of it. Even my Dr. didn't believe me. But it happened. It might have something to do with my being a strict vegetarian for 39 years. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwhite swollen knuckles
Hi Adrienne, My guess is that the dose was enough to loosen stuff and get it into circulation on its way to elimination from the body. But then, for some reason, not duly eliminated and thus circulating and maybe partially redepositing near your joints. If so then maybe adding a mild chelating agent such as cilantro would tip the process enough to get the stuff to move on out. ??? Do you check for body pH? are you acid or alkaline? Very interesting. Tony On 2 Nov 2004 at 9:46, Adrienne Elliott wrote: I was wondering if it was an overdose for me. Maybe I should have continued the less powerful one that I started on. My system is very sensitive. The main difference between me and the majority of Westerners is I have been a strict vegetarian for 39 years. No meat, fish or eggs. sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com 11/2/2004 9:35:32 AM I'm not an expert on CS by any means, but I cannot imagine how CS could cause this. It just doesn't deposit in joint tissues like that, as far as I am aware to date. You might save and send a sample of your Utopia silver to Frank Key for testing just to be sure what you have. Here is a link to a previoius test on Utopia Silver http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr11/cpr_11.html I'd still look for something else during that 6 months that could have caused the swollen knuckles, if it was me. I'm not saying I know for certain CS can't have caused it, only that I know of no possible mechanism by which CS could cause it. If someone comes up with a plausible method for CS to have this effect, that would be different. But I don't see anyone suggesting any such, and to think CS is the culprit, without very serious investigation as to what else might be going on, might lead you to overlook something important. sol Adrienne Elliott wrote: No it was Utopia silvers stronger product. Just the recommended dose. It didn't happened until I had taken it for almost 6 mos. Maybe my body was saturated with it? The color is better now but they are still puffy. sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com 11/2/2004 8:13:10 AM Oh, just thought of one thing--what exactly did you take that you are calling CS? If it was a mild silver protein product, those can actually be contaminated with bacteria. Or perhaps if it was a silver citrate or other silver compound product, who knows? sol Adrienne Elliott wrote: Hi, I took CS for 6 mos. every day and eventually I got white swollen knuckles. Does anyone know how to reverse this? Was I taking the wrong kind? Thanks. Adie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEar Accupressure Points
Silver earrings!! OK now we are on topic again!! I was told by a very experienced homeopath that : Silver is cooling, shrinking or contracting and follows the moon cycle. Gold is heating, dilating and is sun cycle. I sometimes let the receiver of treatment leave their accoutrements on; for a very good reason. The belts, rings, bangles and broaches seem to form a part of their normal body energy flow, especialliy if they are worn often. If treatment is done with them removed, putting the bits back on may 'bring back' some of the cleared stuff. I always let wedding bands stay on. Tony On 3 Nov 2004 at 10:09, Adrienne Elliott wrote: I have no idea if the earrings helped. I have yet to try it again on someone else with that problem (with and without earrings), she had a little row of silver earrings. By the time I noticed she was wearing them she was asleep and I couldn't wake her up and tell her to remove them. Isn't this how some discoveries are made? If it hadn't been her first visit she would have known to remove them first. garnetri...@earthlink.net 11/3/2004 10:56:14 AM I had a massuese tell me to remove earrings, rings and necklaces at night because they interfere with energy flow through important meridians in that area. But you think the earrings helped? Interesting, could it be that the metal gold or silver (?) increases the flow or some how helps. I suppose accupuncture needles are made of metal, do they use different metals for different purposes. I hope Mike thinks this is a worthy topic! Garnet On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 11:52, Adrienne Elliott wrote: Website is www.americanacademyofreflexology.com The Dr. who wrote the book on Auriculotherapy is Terry Oleson Phd. he also made the ear maps (he also has both the Chinese and French points because it is impossible to get these two to agree on everything). With his book I helped a lady who was hard of hearing on her first visit. When I followed his protocol her ear went pop and her hearing was restored to normal and stayed that way for 2 weeks. But she missed too many appointments and I was never able to duplicate it again. However, I FORGOT TO TELL HER TO TAKE HER EARRINGS OUT, perhaps that's the secret - leave the earrings in. aelli...@dfg.ca.gov 11/3/2004 9:42:55 AM I know I'm off topic, I hate to get yelled at. But that's about all you can learn online. There's a one day class on ears by the American Academy of Reflexology I will get the website. You really need the diagram of the masterpoints by Dr. (I forget his name), sorry. I have his book at home. I'll get it tonight. mama...@netzero.net 11/3/2004 9:33:58 AM WOW!! Tell us more, please! I know that the little I know of acupressure works, the nausea point in the arm has always worked for me, as well as the sinus points on the nose and head. Marshalee Little children often do what's necessary automatically. Rubbing the ear lobe is very relaxing, there are points there for sensual (hence the lover nibbling on his lovers ear lobe) and also for the brain. I rub the front part whenever I have to take a test. The upper triangle contains Shen Men - a very important point in Chinese medicine and acupuncture - it's for inner emotional balance. It would be the frontmost corner of the triangle. And the lower parts of the head flap (next to where Elvis had his sideburns) are good for appetite control and it is called tranquility point and INCREASES THE ENDORPHINS in the brain. This is all true. Find those points. Best wishes, Adie garnetri...@earthlink.net 11/3/2004 9:52:56 AM Cool tip Adie, I love ear rubs and find that they relieve headaches. Nice to know that ear tip point is for allergies. I learned about ear rubbing from a horse seminar. Pulling and rubbing their ears gives them some relief during colic. Interestingly enough my daughter did this for herself when she was a baby if she was colicking -- she had a lot of gas colic from a slow to develop pace maker in her ascending colon where CO2 is suppose to be absorbed, hers was not resting and allowing CO2 to absorb so she was passing all that gas with accomnpanying gas pains. Went away when she started to crawl but getting it diagnosed was very difficult. Apparently 15% of new borns have this uncoordinated autonomic nervous system until they crawl. Runs in both sides of the family I found out. Garnet On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 09:41, Adrienne Elliott wrote: You can gently pinch the apex of the ear (top) hold inside and outside both. That is allergy point in Chinese Medicine (acupuncture). In 3 minutes you will be fine. You can do it 3-4 times a day during allergy season. Best wishes to all with allergies. Adie ddar...@centurytel.net 11/2/2004
Re: CSNeed for a FAQ page or link
Maybe this Desktop Google program will help if it were installed in the Eskimo server. But it needs win 2000 or XP http://desktop.google.com Tony On 5 Nov 2004 at 8:54, Marshall Dudley wrote: I could write a search engine if I knew the files to look in for the subject, from, and body, and the formt of them. Marshall Dan Nave wrote: Mike (Devour), Can you not make a FAQ page on the Silver List home page or a link which would lead to an informational page somewhere where there could be a file on Acronyms and a CS FAQ sheet, or post highlights such as Mike Monet's recent remarks about CS and the blood brain barrier? I know it would be some work, but it may cut down effort in the long run. Also, why not take up Mike's offer to create a better search engine?... Thanks, Dan Re: CS CS and the blood-brain barrier From: John W (view other messages by this author) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 17:05:13 OK, I give up. What is EIS? This forum is getting way to many acronyms, lets type in English for us who are not first letter physics. Thanks, John -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver
Hi Boone, I do not have access to that book. Maybe you could describe the method. May I ask a few questions please? Does your method have a way to control current? Are you using distilled water? Are you adding salt or anything else while brewing What size rods are you using? How much water per brew? If you are not using current control and not using pure distilled water then the brew time should be in the order of a few minutes per 250ml (8oz) . Tony On 8 Nov 2004 at 18:50, Boone Nittayo wrote: Hi, I made some colloidal silver today and something funny happen. The negative side of silver rod had residueon the rod that looks like fungus and the positive rodwasgiving out a brown fog that goes to the bottom.Before I started I cleaned the silver rods with nylon cloth andpaper towels with distilled water.I used four nine-volt batteries and brewed it for 30 minutes. (I followed the the instructionsfrom the book Colloidal SilverTodayby Warren Jefferson. Ben -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSalternatives to IE and OE,
I have been using Pegasus for a few years and would not go back to any of the others that i tried, ei, netscape, mozilla, eudora, opera, and more. Also there is an online Pegasus Mail discussion group, members of which answer questions quickly and easily, even when the answer is in the very comprehensive information included. Free or donate to help with the development costs from http://www.pmail.com Among many other features Pegasus has excellent search facilities. Either finding a single word or phrase or more complex searches like I want to select all the messages from David that are older than 15 days, don't have any colour set on them, and aren't marked as urgent Tony On 13 Nov 2004 at 9:34, John Rigby wrote: At 02:57 AM 13/11/04, you wrote: Does Eudora Pro have good search and organizing functions for email? I haven't tried Eudora for years, and then it was the free version, not the Pro, but I really didn't like it at all back then. I'm using Netscape now, because it has very good search options for emails. OE never could find anything. I should also correct myself, earlier I posted that some small h andy programs for security recommended to me here were from grisoft, but they are in fact from Steve Gibson's site. http://grc.com/default.htm sol Hi Sol, Yes, very good. A lot of businesses run their whole customer contact scenario with it. The only one recognised as better is Pegasus but that *is* for pros. BTW: I'm trialling the latest Opera v7 and am very impressed - not with the mail - yet. Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: FerroFluids
Hi Marshall, Thanks for the very clear explanations in the past few emails under this subject. Your logic and science make abundant sense to me. I have been at this CS for quite a while and was getting awfully confused by the recent claims by M Monet which don't seem to make practical sense. All the best. Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
Hi Jim, there was a patent on CS and H2O2 and they quoted ppm of both. To get to the same ballpark I used a teaspoon , 5ml, of 6% h2o2, or 1 drop of 35% h202 per 250ml , cupful, of homemade cs , about 5ppm. That is about what I use. Tony On 18 Nov 2004 at 9:24, Jim Holmes wrote: Hi friends, I have posted this once before, and got no response. Surely there is someone who will offer some information. What ratio of H2O2 to CS do you recommend? What are the consequences of more or less H2O2? Does it matter how soon after generation of the Colloid/ionic mix that the addition is made? Can there be any interaction between the CS that has had the Peroxide added and DMSO added later. I will appreciate anyones input. JOH -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMilk Expriment
Hi Marshall, Just recently i read somewhere that raw warm milk will naturally clabber very quickly after being milked, if prevented from cooling. Useful for making cheese from raw milk. Apparently an enzyme reaction enhanced by the temperature. It might be a good idea to control the milk temperature as a control. Tony On 22 Nov 2004 at 11:10, Marshall Dudley wrote: OK, I have started the milk experiment. I have some preliminary results, but am surprised at the results. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTumor - Desperately seeking an answer
Brenda, Slooshing the CS in your mouth for a while before swallowing. This allows absorption directly into the whole healing system, bypassing the gut. An energy dispersal exercise could also be part of your protocol. Basically stroke slowly upwards using one hand from that hip to opposite shoulder, then stroke with other hand from other hip to its opposite shoulder. Start with 36 strokes at a time and increase if you want to. While stroking, visualize the knots of energy in your body being combed, unruffled and straightened out. Visualize the unwanted stuff leaving your body in whatever way seems appropriate. Visualize the unwanted stuff being processed in some safe and ecologically friendly way, and not just chucked on the ground or flicked away. Maybe see the waste being zapped with white light and then eventually returning for the good of all beings. Tony n8...@juno.com wrote: All, I wanted to see if anyone on the list has heard of anyone using Dr. Clark's protocol for large uterine Fibroid Tumors. I have the new book The Cure for Advanced Cancers (actually I have all of them and the Zapper)...but it seems Dr. Clark is mostly referring to cancerous tumors. I have a fibroid tumor larger than a grapefruit...and seems to be growing every month. The protocols mentioned...the 21 day Cancer Curing Program and the Tumor Shrinking Diet. Do they both have to be done or just the Tumor Shrinking Diet...since mine are not cancerous? Is it relatively safe to take the high dosage of B2 for such a large tumor? Does anyone know personally of anyone who has shrunk or totally gotten rid of a Fibroid Tumor this large? Any help would be appreciated... Thanks again, Brenda YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2o2
Lynn, Judith Thamm galing...@chariot.net.au Tony a...@new.co.za lfzbiz...@aol.com wrote: Dear Listers: I am looking for an answer from Judith Thamm, as I have a question about H2o2--I was reading one of her posts where she mentions it, but I need to know more, in order to consider getting some, as I have Lyme disease. One of the things I know the Lyme Spirochete hates and that definitely will kill it, is more oxygen in the blood. Can anyone direct me to Juith Thamm's e-mailaddress, or, if you can, give her mine, so I can e-mailher directly? Thanks, Lynn lfzbiz...@aol.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: CStinnitus--
You have very good eyesight. rusty233 wrote: hypnotize him - Original Message - From: Judith Thamm galing...@chariot.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:21 AM Subject: Re: CSFw: CStinnitus-- Put my foot on it... Judith. How do you hold the ant still? Chuck I try to make everyone's day a little more surreal! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDigital Multimeter
Ed, Here is a picture of how to connect a multimeter into the CS making circuit. With that sort of voltage, Be Care Full. Switch off before touching anything. Standby and be prepared to switch off in a hurry in case you get connections wrong. Tony Ed Kasper wrote: OK I bought one at Radio Shack for $15 a digital one NOW how do I use? Do I just put both the positive and negative ends in the water? - after I unplugged the unit... I am using 110VAC volts to a bridge rectifier the output I believe is 54 VDC (2) 10 inches of wet silver (total 20 inches of wet silver) 5 inches apart mechanical stirrer in center (cheapest radio shack motor) one and half gallon distilled water sorry, I read earlier posts but I'm still confused about it. Ed Chuck wrote: Unhook one of your silver rods from the power supply. Connect the multimeter to the power suppy terminal you unhooked. Connect the other multimeter lead to the silver wire you unhooked. Make SURE your multimeter is set to read milliamps. Don't be surprised if it reads 0 when you turn it on, it should increase within several minutes. Chuck Go Lemmings Go!inline: silver_current_meter.jpg
Re: CSbaking soda
pj, Dr Schallenberger's Alkalising Formula 1 Part sodium citrate 2 parts Potassium bicarbonate 7 parts Sodium bicarbonate Take in water 1 teaspoon twice per day Works for me. Tony Shirley Reed wrote: So baking soda won't work for alkalizing. Know anything that does work? pj -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe Carey Reams
Hullo Terry, Yes Please I would like information on this. It strikes me that it is not a simple thing to judge inter cell pH by urine or saliva sample. Regards, Tony Terry Chamberlin wrote: TJ Garland, I was trained in Dr. Reams urine/saliva testing methods in 1984. I found his approach to determining the causes of health problems to be very specific and accurate, and his recommendations to be very effective. If you would like more information about this, contact me off-list and I will send it to you. Terry Chamberlin Metabolic Solutions Institute RR1 314 Carleton Rd Lawrencetown, NS B0S 1M0 902-584-3810 voice 413-826-7641 fax service msi...@yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSea Silver
Hi Val, My guess is that the name Sea Silver evolved from C Silver. Tony Val Q wrote: Has anyone ever heard of Sea Silver? My sister has just had an anthrax scare in an envelope (it appeared as a puff of smoke and then disappeared). In conversation with the person who came out to see her, she mentioned I use colloidal silver, and he said he uses sea silver. I have never heard of that. Is there any connection at all? Thanks, Valerie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArthritis?....and Computers?
Hullo Lew, I have been to your site but cannot read much because of the colour.I get a white background with a light green text. Can anything be done to get a legible screen? Regards, Tony FHLew wrote: Greetings Jonathan, A fragmented tutorial posting I salvaged from the vicious computer virus attack in the recent past, may introduce you to some of the basic aspects of Resonant Field Imaging and its complementary concomitants. For you and others who are curious, please point to: http://lewfh.tripod.com/vibrationalmedicine/ For all those who have emailed me, ENJOY. With regards Lew - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:27 AM Subject: Re: CSArthritis?and Computers? Hello, I am interested in almost anything pertaining to resonance effects apropos health. I would be curious to read any info. you have about this topic, esp. RFI. Best, JBB etc -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArthritis?....and Computers?
Dear Lew, The colours on my pc are good. The monitor does not need degaussing, it is really OK for other sites and programs. I think the problem is with your site. As I said, when it arrives here the text is pale on a white background. Impossible to read. Also will not select. So I never did get to read what you had to say. Seems to me that the site is too fancy somehow. Pity about that. My guess is that your page has a dark background to which does not arrive or does not get switched on. I hope this is helpful to you. Thanks anyway, Tony FHLew wrote: Greetings Tony, Try to adjust the colours and to degauss your monitor if these facilities are in-built. Computers can play tricks when there are nearby geomagnetic interferences. Sometimes, items do not show up where they are intended to be when published in the web. Please check whether there is any problem with the Visual Display Unit. With regards Lew - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: CSArthritis?and Computers? Hullo Lew, I have been to your site but cannot read much because of the colour.I get a white background with a light green text. Can anything be done to get a legible screen? Regards, Tony -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:Preventative
Dear Judith, Marshalee is correct. I used to be a 'Planned Preventative Maintenance' person before she mended my ways. :) See Fowler's Modern English Usage prevent(at)ive. The short form is better; see LONG VARIANTS where he says 'The better the writer the shorter the words'... broadly true Those who run to long words are mainly the unskilful and tasteless; they confuse pomposity with dignity, flaccidity with ease, and bulk with force. Tony Judith Thamm wrote: Tisk Marshalee, Tisk Tisk! (By the way, for the Newbies out there, who missed my rant of several months ago, the word is preventive, not preventatative, ie.what CS is so good at doing!) OK, I`ll shut up for now!!! :o) Love, Marshalee My 3 nearest dictionaries [each is a standard doorstop weight ;) ] say : DK Illustrated Oxford Dictionary lists preventative before preventive Reader's Digest Complete Word Finder: lists preventative before preventive The Macquarie Dictionary: [standard Australian reference] preventive [ gives definitions] then says: Also preventative. [I collect dictionaries, just BTW.] Regards, Judith. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPreventive
Danny yes, yes T dannymetalmas...@aol.com wrote: Is this web site about Collodial Silver or semantics? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS brewing -- CAUTION
Reid Harvey wrote: Mike, Your cautions on the making of CS that is HVDC woke me up in the middle of the night, and I started mentally designing the finishing touches for Terry Chamberlain's approach, especially with the close proximity and curiosity of my two sons, five and nine. They do not need to be electrocuted. Reid, Prevention is preferred to resuscitation. Please assume that the warnings will not be understood just prior to the zap. Firmly and mechanically enclosing the electrodes, and any other voltage presenting parts is fairly foolproof. I envisioned an enclosure for the electrodes, made of clear plastic tube, hose, or a plastic bottle, with holes in it to allow current and/or water flow but not finger probing. Electrical interlock cutout switches could also be used, but fiddlefinger ingenuity could also bypass these.!! Does the house wiring have an earthleakage unit. If the wiring of the CS unit is set up correctly then the EL unit could save a life as a final resort. Regards, Tony -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSChronic Renal Kidney Disease CRF
Philip, The boy cat who lives with me became very thin and gaunt. he is about three years old. I dosed him per mouth with homemade CS about 5ppm (guess). He resisted at first but accepted the dosing reluctantly after a few doses; I tried to give him 5ml 4 times per day. Then by luck found that he would lap up the CS if it was pored on his food. He gets about 50ml twice per day now (that is about 1.5 oz). He doesn't like it mixed in. In a few weeks he has grown heavy again. I didnt get a diagnosis but figure that he was chronically dehydrated from eating mostly patent catfood. Dried and canned. I give them more raw meat in their diet now too. Zapping would also help but use short times for a sick cat, Say no more than 1 minute, not more than once an hour. Just place the electrodes in contact with his fur anywhere on his body. I try to put on on tummy area and one on back of neck and just hold lightly in place by hand for the time. For what it is worth, Tony Philip Wylie wrote: We have a six year old female Persian (Spanky )who is in advanced stages of Chronic renal failure. A search by Diagnosis of this condition can be found at http://www.vet.cornell.edu/consultant/consult.asp Colloidal Silver has been suggested to use as possibly efficacious in treating this condition. If in fact the claims supporting the use of Colloidal silver are true, then surely there must be someone on this list who has experience with this specific disease and could possibly help us. We cannot afford to spend much more money in saving our pets life. Our vet has not discouraged us from considering alternative approaches. Because we subscribe to Dr. Hulda Clark's protocols for disease prevention and healing we have been made aware of her references to Colloidal silver and have subscribed to this list to learn if there is anyone that can tell us more. The issue of Chronic Renal Failure among cats is what I would call close to epidemic when I find one list that speaks of some 2800 members who have this specific concern in common. Vaccinations make me terribly suspect as being a prime cause. However, we are looking for solution to our problem with great urgency as she is failing. Our cat's kidney mass was enlarged to about 4O percent of her abdominal cavity. Since having her placed on antibiotics the mass of one kidney has subsequently subsided significantly. It is difficult however to keep our cat adequately hydrated since both desire and thirst seem to be abated. The cost for further diureasis and intravenous is now prohibitive. It is regretful we must put a ceiling on medical costs for our sweet cat, as much as we love her. If Colloidal silver is a solution, then what are the recommended amounts to administer for a cat? How often? And what results could we truly expect? Is there cause for hope as we have her laying beneath an infra red heat lamp for 20 minutes a day while trying to nurse her back to health with antibiotics and a syringe of water. Thanks, Philip Wylie -- on 1/13/02 11:43, Terry Chamberlin at tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: Becoming an Alternative Health practitioner was the logical and practically unavoidable result of being born with significant health issues that the medical profession not only couldn't help, but actually aggravated. Over the years, I have found considerable relief from some of the issues I was born struggling with, but some of the other issues have refused to be resolved. This has resulted in my developing a continual search mentality, always reading, always searching. This has turned out to be a benefit to me, for it has produced a Perpetual Student attitude in me. Being very human, if I have a string of successes with my clients, it's easy to fall prey to an attitude of elitism, a I'm one of the Better Practitioners, the Effective Ones. But then I have to face my consistent failure at finding answers to my own issues, rather humbling (though healthy), to say the least. Within the limits of finances, family and personal flexibility, I have experimented with a lot of supplements and therapies that have received high praise from others. There is still, in me, a subconscious hope that I will finally stumble upon that Magic Elixir, that Super Potion, the Cure-all that will conquer my and my clients health problems. Oh, I know logically that there is no Silver Bullet (I had thought I found it in CS, but I was wrong), but something in me still hopes, Maybe, Maybe, Maybe. When I first came across Noni juice, everyone was crying, This is the stuff! (as I have seen with many, many other things). I bought 12 bottles of it and started drinking. After six bottles, I noticed nothing whatsoever. The fellow I bought it from suggested inceasing the dosage, so I doubled the recommended intake. After
Re: CStopic for archinves
Connie, try a Subject search for dog bites . I searched for wound in the body of the files I have saved and found them round about 20 Jan. T Connie wrote: I was looking for the posting that came in the last couple weeks on how someone had treated a deep cut. I was at a loss for what topic to enter in the archives search engine. Thought it was even in the last week or so...looked through the messages, could not find it, could someone help me out? TIA, Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHeads up - virus
I have just received the following and bets are it IS A VIRUS. So, DO NOT CLICK ON IT. Subject: If it is not already Date:Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:37:19 -0200 From:Heidi s...@bigpond.com For more information, please consult the DirectX Setup/Issues section (Section 4) of this Troubleshooting Guide. Note: It is always a good idea to check and write down what sound and video hardware you have in your computer before installing DirectX. system.pif Name: system.pif Type: Shortcut to MS-DOS Program (application/x-unknown-content-type-piffile) Encoding: base64 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS: dog lump
Hi Marshalee, Your Pug might have had a hydatid cyst. This is from parasitical worms and is a sort of worm egg store in the body. Try to keep it scrupulously clean and take care not to get the stuff on you, for fear of infection. Irrigating with CS should do it. Do a search on hydatid cysts and scare yourself. Tony Marshalee Hallett wrote: Dear List folks, Here`s something weird. My 11 year old Pug dog Willy had a lump on his neck for about a year. About the size of the end of my little finger. Well last week I was feeling it, and it squished. I squeezed it and it popped open. Out came some stuff that looked like fine black sand! I emptied it out over about 4 days; it never seemed to hurt him at all. I kept it clean with melaleuca oil, and he has CS in his water all the time. Seems to be healing up OK. Any idea what it could be? Thanks, Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMalaria
Ian, If you do get info on this subject I would be very interested. I know of a couple who do not want to use pharmaceuticals and who travel to malaria infested areas and who use my simple CS generator but do not have details. I will follow this and report back to you. Tony Ian Roe wrote: Hi: I've just talked with a friend who has come down with malaria 8 months after returning from overseas. His liver right now is enlarged. Does anyone here know of a website where malaria is addressed with alternative medicine? Can CS play a role in treatment? Are there any reservations with taking CS with an enlarged liver? I know that malaria is a parasite - do regular antiparasite herbs benefit people specifically with regards to the malaria? Ian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS/MSM/Lactated Ringers solution
Here it is in the archives. Tony Moody CSAbsorption Coefficient of CS Solution From: Brooks Bradley (view other messages by this author) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:41:27 James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: It is in the archives. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:27 AM To: silver- list Subject:CSCS/MSM/Lactated Ringers solution I recall an earlier test that your researchers did with dogs and the 5PPM CS/MSM/Lactated Ringers solution introduced directly into the stomach via an esophageal tube. You reported that the enhanced transport rate through the cell wall---attributed to the MSM and Ringers---resulted in approximately 4X the blood levels of CS in the same time frame compared with only CS sol. This is something I have missed in the past, could this study and protocol be posted again? Thanks so much, Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSiridology
Hi Ian , Try http://www.iridologyresearch.com/index.htm or http://www.iridologyresearch.com/pages/lessons/courselessons.htm Tony Ian Roe wrote: Hi: Does anyone here have access to URL's that provide free teaching and information about Iridology? Lots of sites out there selling books and stuff but it seems to me that a practice this old should have teaching and information sites out there. In particular, information on how to set up a camera to take pictures of the eye for baseline info and progress. Ian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs
Hi Janis, Below is a pesto recipe that has been posted by various people. I would try that and also do a mild liver flush every morning until the colour clears away. Mild liver flush first thing in the morning take: 1 to 3 cloves garlic crushed 1/2 a lemon or more. 1 to 3 tablespoons olive oil stir and chug. Follow this with a glass or two of hot water. Tony === Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:57:05 -0500 From: Nina Silver ni...@bestweb.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com snip 3) Cilantro. There's a famous pesto recipe containing cilantro that's been floating around the internet: a) 1 clove of garlic ½ cup of almonds, cashews, or other nuts b) 1 cup packed fresh cilantro leaves 2 tablespoons lemon juice c) 6 tablespoons olive oil Put the cilantro and olive oil in blender and process until the cilantro is chopped. d) Add the rest of the ingredients and process to a lumpy paste. (You may need to add a touch of hot water and scrape the sides of the blender.) You can change the consistency by altering the amount of olive oil and lemon juice, but keep the 3:1 ratio of oil to juice. (If freezes well, so you can make several batches at once.) snip -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT:Notice of Pc Problems.
Brooks, Try the advert aware program Ad-aware 5 www.lavasoftUSA.com It is very easy to get and install and use. The program removed 9 things running quietly in the bacground and gobbling up computer facilities. I now run it once per week. haven't had any more 'finds' but the pc is whizzing along very well. Regards, Tony Moody Brooks Bradley wrote: To all list members to whom I owe email-I may be off the airways for a day or two. I have some strange problem and am unable to resolve it-no detectable viruses; slow response and intermittent acknowledgement of browser by the ISP..after the ISP has connected (neither Explorer or Netscape are recognized by the server connectionvery aggravating);and have defraged for perfect cleanup; 128 RAM, 6 gigs of clear hard drive, 450 Celeron processor, etc., etc.,. I am at my wits end and am taking it to the Professional PC Doctor. I do not know how long it will take.hopefully only a day or two. He is VERY busy, because he is VERY GOOD..meantime everyone is free of me. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFor cats?
Hullo Janet, The CS could be any strength, 3pp to 20ppm. whatever you have. Pour some CS over his food. Maybe mix some of it together. Mine demand more. Also add CS to his drinking water. I have a gallon bowl and I toss in a glass (1/4 litre)of CS once a day. The bowl is cleaned and filled about twice a week. At your own risk you could try to give him a dose of CS using a syringe without needle. I aim at trying to get about 15ml (1/2oz) of CS down the hatch twice per day at least. This is enough to get him drinking on his own. OK here's what i do. Cat on carpet so his claws have a grip on something, left hand on scruff and lift slightly, without detaching feet from carpet, to get him at a slight disadvantage. Syringe filled with CS in right fist, use syringe to lever his mouth open gently and then give a slow squirt down side of mouth. Stop if he doesn't swallow. Let him close his mouth, massage his throat to get him to finish swallowing. You don't want to drown him. Good Luck, Tony Jan wrote: My cat (neutered male) just finished his second set of antibiotics. He still pees without much coming out and he licks himself (no delicate way to put it) it seems to be irritated STILL. This has been going on for over a month. Anyway I would like to try the CS on him. How much and how often do folks recommend and how strong of a solution in PPM? Thanks, Janet -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS in ear : dizziness
Yesterday I woke up with the beginings of a cold so I took CS during the day. I also poured some CS into one ear while standing with my head tilted. I very soon became disorientated, dizzy and slightly nauseous. My vision kept on floating away to one side and then snapping back like a film jumping at the movies (remember those?). I couldn't stand that for very long so tilted head upright. The effects went away immediately. A while later I tried it again in the other ear and no effect at all. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Tony -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe CS Strange phenomena
Well Done Harold for doing the work. What are you using as resistance probes? I think that these should always be the same wetted area, and distance apart for consistent results. And of course they shouldn't corrode while measuring :) The first five Ohms readings look logical. I don't understand why the pH should vary with distillation and my guess is that distilled water would go to normal, 7.0 pH. This looks like a problem. Ummm 'they' usually try to make the water slightly alkaline in order to hold more chlorine and to prevent corrosion. Have you checked calibration of the pH meter? The last two readings; are those after you have made CS? Not much sense here, to my little mind. You could try testing some samples for change with standing time. Distilled water is degassed water to a certain extent and allowing it to stand will allow absorption of CO2 at least, which will change the readings. BTW chlorine abbreviation is Cl Have fun, Tony Harold MacDonald wrote: Since my last post re Smoky CS using my own distilled water,I have run a few tests and here are some of the results.The distiller has put through approx 288 Litres[79+ US gallons]of H2O and the one that was used to make CS[smoky] was [2 litres from 75th gallon] .Tap water here is highly acidic and is laced heavily at this time of year with Chlorine;which can fluctuate from day to day.So I chose a day when Ch was higher than normal.For testing I used an Armaco multimeter/fixed probes and an Aquarium PH tester.I used a candy Thermometer for temp readings. PH Ohms R Temp Tap H2O 7.0 35k 60 F [fresh from tap] Ist distill6.6 70k 64 F Double distill 6.0 130k tap H2O 7.0 40k @ room temp 1st distill treated 7.4 12K 74 F with concentrace minerals @ 10 drops/litre Single distill[2 litres] used for CS @ 25VDC,1ma current 7.2 PH 100K resistance 60 F 4 hrs.,SMOKY colour Double distill for CS @ 25VDC, 1ma for 2 hrs.6.6 PH 80 K resistance 60 F I hope there is somebody out there who can make a sensible conclusion out of the above.As somebody said earlier,it seems as tho the distiller is letting impurities,like Ch come through in the first distilling,but,in the second,it's mostly stopped,this is the way I read it.If the first stuff is used for CS,what would the compounds be? I am not a chemist and didn't do well in that subject in school. Many thanx. Harold --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.362 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/02 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO cautions and mixtures
Hullo Reid, Pure DMSO is a liquid which freezes at about 15 degrees C . It mixes very well with water (and with oils) and warms up on dilution. People with fair, sensitive skin are cautioned to dilute at least 50% because it may cause irritation. Weaker solutions should not cause any troubles at all. 10% is very mild. I think the crux word is MAY, they are covering their butt. I used to use 100% on my skin and at most got a mild itch which lasted a few minutes, even on the very tender bits. Heh, Heh, it is the smell ya got to worry about. I lost a very nice girl friend to experimenting with DMSO, one whiff and she was out of there. Paint it on your feet and you can smell garlic and clams on your breath in a few minutes. I never tried it in my eyes and I wouldn't want to, but in DMSO Natures Healer Dr Morton Walker he talks about putting 1 drop DMSO directly on the eyeball to cure cataracts. Adding 10 grams or 10 ml DMSO to 90 ml water is OK. Is he going to drink it, paint it on his skin or nebulise with it? All would work, I'm just interested in his preferred procedure. Regards, Tony Reid Harvey wrote: CS Enthusiasts, My 86 year old father had drug resistent bronchitis last year, and I have convinced him to get his hands on some DMSO, something he has just received in the mail. Fortunately he has since embraced CS and is now making it. I'm suggesting he follow the good advice of several on the list if any similar lung ailment ever arises, 90% CS and 10% DMSO, as I 've seen written up. But he is telling me he sees the following cautions on the DMSO label: May cause skin irritation. Avoid contact with eyes, skin. clothing. Wash thoroughly after handling. In case of contact, immediately flush eyes with water. Call a physician. Can someone please tell me the story on the cautions? Also can someone tell me how to mix the CS with the DMSO? Can I assume this is fine particle, 10ppm CS? And as with other solutions would 10% DMSO suggest, for example, that one would mix 90 ml. of the CS with 10 grams of the DMSO? Any advice would be highly appreciated. Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: DMSO cautions and mixture
Hi Reid, Yes, DMSO is a liquid; but it freezes in cool weather. The bottle i have is CP grade 99.5% pure and has a density of 1.1 (1.0 litre = 1.1 kg which is the same as 1 ml = 1.1 gram) MSM is a powder and it is apparently closely related. I have no experience with MSM. Reid, I'm up to my eyeballs at the moment, and for some weeks to come, so I can't do justice to discussing DMSO. The book mentioned would be good background material and probably all you need. It (DMSO) is really worth investigating and investing in. In USA it apparently can be bought from veterinarian supply shops. In South Africa the only source I could find at the time was a chemical supply house, hence the high purity. I was diluting it to 70% and selling it on to someone who was using it for ozone bagging for all sorts of illnesses. Ummm! Can't really remember what I was using it for specifically. It was a few years ago. just testing. OK, I tried it in my ears (tinnitus) and one hurt like crazy. I suspect this ear has some infection or congestion lurking behind the eardrum. This ear still reacts to plain CS, no pain but dizziness; worth persevering with. I also used DMSO plus antifungal footpowder on foot fungus and that seems to have gone. Be cautious with the nebuliser the first few times. Take a very small in-breath from the nebuliser and a few normal breaths to check for violent coughing reaction. then increase the the depth and number of the in-breaths. You don't want to clear all the congestion and gunge in one go!! Enjoy, Tony Reid Harvey wrote: Tony, Thanks for your very helpful suggestions, which I have sent on to my Dad. I also intend getting the capacity to use this for my family. A few more questions: 1. You do say it comes as a liquid, not a powder. And you say 10 gr. or 10 ml. per 90 ml. of CS is okay. Does this mean that the specific gravity (density) is somewhere around 1.0? i.e. That DMSO would be about 1 gram per 1 ml.? And can we just measure it 1 level tablespoon DMSO per 9 tablespoons CS? 2. I've suggested to my dad that he use the mix with a nebulizer. My experience is that in drinking CS I can clear up nearly any bug, except for those in the lungs. So we sometimes get these hacking toughs and mucous, persisting for weeks, even months. I think the DMSO/ CS mix with nebulizer must clear this up. I'd love to also hear from you as to what is accomplished by drinking the mix or painting it on the skin. Thanks again. Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCough/Was Empty Stomac
Val Q, That sort of thing could be caused by internal parasites. Tony Val Q wrote: Dear Wayne and Jack, ... a chronic cough for a couple of months (mostly a lying-down-at-night thing)and I need to clear my throat a lot (that's been forever, it seems). But the last week it has gotten much worse. Sort of sounds like a bronchial thing. . I don't feel sick with this cough; sometimes I just feel exhausted and a little crummy but not enough to send me to bed...and this is not all the time either. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWeb site for the Silver List...
Hi Mike, Here are steps to take to filter mail for Netscape 4.7 users. Example: to automatically send all incoming email with CS in the subject line to a Mailbox called Silver List. 1 Create the Silver List mailbox in Local Mail. 1.1 In Netscape Messenger, Click on Local Mail in the left hand menu. 1.2 Right click and click on New Folder. 1.3 Type Silver List in the Name window. click OK 2 Instruct incoming email with CS in the subject line to a Mailbox called Silver List. 2.1 Click Edit in the upper menu and then click Message Filters. 2.2 Click New. 2.3 In the Filter Rule window, change the Filter name to SL, for instance. Its your choice. 2.3 Type CS in the blank window. 2.4 Scroll down the Move To folder to the Silver List entry. Click OK That is it. You can make several filters to make your life easier. To edit a filter go Edit/Message Filter/ select the filter to be edited and click Edit. Make the changes in the Filter Rules panel and click OK. Tony M. G. Devour wrote: Greetings all! Our regulars will probably remember me making a few noises about a web site for the Silver List late last year. Well, having had to take the time out to set up the new Off Topic List, I figured I could do a little work on that project too. I'd like some help from you, folks! Test-drive the thing, please, and let me know of any inadequacies or flaws you come by. The temporary URL is: http://www.eskimo.com/~mdevour/silver-list There are a couple of holes in the Mailing List FAQ section. Particularly, I need instructions for creating mail filtering or sorting rules for AOL and Netscape users. If any of you'd like to help me along there, I'd appreciate it. I'll be bringing up a domain for the site shortly. Next will be to add back in some Information and FAQ's about CS. Maybe in another six months... sigh Thank you, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Website for Silver List
Hi jr , What do you have to do to create a new mailbox? It would be great if you can give us the correct keystrokes. Mine is Netscape 4.72. I can't imagine that there is a huge difference. OK, There is another way of doing it! From the Help : Organising your Mail Creating a Folder To create a message folder: 1.Open the File menu and choose New, then Folder. 2.Type the name of the folder. Note: Do not use the backslash character (\) when naming your folder unless you're creating a hierarchy (that is, unless the new folder will contain subfolders). 3.Click the pop-up menu to choose a folder location and click OK. I hope that this is helpful. Thanks, Tony jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: Tony writes: Here are steps to take to filter mail for Netscape 4.7 users. Example: to automatically send all incoming email with CS in the subject line to a Mailbox called Silver List. 1 Create the Silver List mailbox in Local Mail. 1.1 In Netscape Messenger, Click on Local Mail in the left hand menu. 1.2 Right click and click on New Folder. 1.3 Type Silver List in the Name window. click OK Step 1.2---nothing happens when right-clicking here. (Netscape 4.77) jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNina Silver site
I pass this on from the Rife list Tony List Members, I've just been apprised that Nina Silver has a new URL for her web site with great info about many alt-health issues including Rife, as well as excerpts from her fine new Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing, go to Dr. Nina Silver's site at: http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com NOT http://www.heart-of-healing.com/ which was the old website. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMilligram question...
Mike, A teaspoon is about 5ml which is about 5mg of CS. CS of 10ppm means 10mg silver per 100mg CS So a teaspoon contains: (10/1 000 000)x5 = 0.05mg silver If Wayne is having 16oz CS per day then this works out to about .0005mg silver per day. (16 Oz ~ 500ml which is about 100 teaspoons) I hope this helps. Tony Mike wrote: Wayne wrote... I think I was getting about .0005 mg of silver per day. Maybe I'm way off in my calculations, but using the formula mentioned at this website... http://silverdata.20m.com/howmuchsilverdididrink.html I was making calculations that for an average batch of ~10ppm (using Herx's Calculator), I was ending up with roughly .6mg of silver per teaspoon -- which is obviously many, many times the amount Wayne mentioned. If someone wants some of my numbers to plug into this equasion to see if they come anywhere close to matching mine, the batch I made last night was 8oz, cooked for 90 minutes (5400 seconds), at an average of .41mA. I plugged my mA reading into the Herx Calculator every 5 minutes and ended up with it showing 12.09ppm. Like I said though, I might be way off. Mike -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMilligram question...
I'm glad to see you that several of you are awake. My mistake and profound apologies. Ivan, Dean and Robb are correct. Tony Ivan Anderson wrote: That is correct. 1ppm = 1mg/L = 0.001mg/mL Ivan -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2002 5:20 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMilligram question... what I told you is correct1ppm is equal to 1mg per litre.so 500 ml would be .5 mgyou can do the further math to figure out smaller ammounts..but I just posted is absolutely correct..Robb Um, a teaspoon/5 ml is 5000 mg. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.
Hullo Mary Lou, Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a site where I could get the info. I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is on 10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several homeopathic Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn't seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the morning. Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS. Thanks, Tony Mary Lou Borgert wrote: Paula, I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have prednizone (drug). I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is. I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2 yrs. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWhere are we from
Tony Moody Hogsback South Africa -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE Website Up
Hi Swill, Your site takes a long time to load itself. Normally I would have surfed on but you asked for comments. There seems to be a bad bug in the site because it crashes. I never got to see your Products page. Tried twice. Uhmm, 1936 politico/pseudo scientific doesn't interest me very much. OK, Tony silversw...@yahoo.com wrote: For those that cannot understand Scientific talk I have modifed the website to make it a bit more easier to read I hope it is easier to read this time through! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAdding CS to a automobile battery !/where's the beef!
What is in the blank messages? Tony -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLung Infection
Lynda, There was a long discussion about getting cs into lungs a while ago. If you go to the archives and type in 'airbrush' you should get a quite a few messages, most of which are instructive. Also The following email indicates where all the construction details are filed. Tony Subject: Re: CSMissing parts in the archives/airbrush oxygen nebulizer Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 13:35:09 -0700 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:41:40 -0600 From: Jason / AVRA colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com References: 1 Dear interested parties: http://silverdata.20m.com/airbrushoxygennebulizer.html Posted at this URL and in standard HTML format are the complete assembly instructions as originally presented by Brooks Bradley in a four part message some time ago. Lynda Wrote: this has nothing to do with this email , but I have a bad lung infection and I remember there is a way to get cs into the lungs could someone tell me how that is thanks Lynda -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[List owner] Fancy text formatting...
I'm using Netscape 4.72 so earlier and later versions may vary slightly M. G. Devour wrote: Anybody have similar instructions to guide users of Netscape, AOL, or Mac's?? HOW TO: To turn off fancy formatting and send plain text in Netscape: Click EditPreferencesMail NewsgroupsFormatting Select Use the plain text editor to compose messages Click OK. Changes will take place in the next new message. There is another way if you want to send fancy messages to some recipients and plain to others. Go through all the cards in the address book. Select or de-select as applicable, the button marked 'prefers to receive rich text (HTML) mail' then Click EditPreferencesMail NewsgroupsFormatting Select convert the message into plain text Click OK. Tony -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs and h2o2
Yeah, Right. I use battery acid, undiluted and heated up to boiling. Three times a day. The holes grow back in minutes. No Problem. By the way where do you get 70% H2O2. Cape Canaveral? At 08:29 PM 12/19/02 -0500, you wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:13:15 -0500, gimpy gi...@swva.net wrote: 1 drop of 70% h2o2 on your skin, repeated twice a day will create a sore, eat the top loyer of skin off. I would not use h2o2 in my eyes with out expert supervision. I have done the drop on the skin thing as a demenstration. 70%h2o2?? On your skin? A demonstration of what? Chuck I once fell through the trap door. They said it was a stage I was going through. (Max Headroom) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and colds
Dear Paula, Sometimes a cold is really about crying uncried tears, especially when you have had to be tough or supportive. In which case the cold will go very quickly if you can get in to the emotions and feelings which might have caused the snot and blubs and let them flow for a while. Get some personal space have a nice hot bath, go to bed in pleasant and safe surroundings; and howl. You will feel much better in the morning. Of course colloidal silver and vitamin C are to be taken too. Lots. Yes, stress does knock the immune system, so any way of destressing will help to become well. Tony sol wrote: Thanks, I have staved off at least one previous cold, but a good friend suffered a horrendous tragedy on Dec. 6 that really knocked me for a loop emotionally, and I got somewhat depressed, let my eating habits go to hell, had some under pressure work to do, and didn't take my CS with the diligence and frequency and in the manner I should have when I felt this one coming on. Still, this cold I've had for a week now hasn't yet turned into a secondary sinus infection, nor am I getting worse with each passing day, I'm holding my own, and slowly improving. Instructions on how to take CS for strep really kicked the sore throat part of it. I've always heard that stress, grief, and depression kick hell out of the immune system, and I know it to be true and have learned the lesson yet again. paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpost traumatic injuries/treatments
Hi Mic, Yes I have had very good reports of CS for eczema. If CS is sprayed on it is very soothing. Tony Michele Lee wrote: Do you use just straight CS? My son has eczema... do you think CS rubbed on his skin would make a difference, or will it just run off. ? (due to the watery consistency) Mic -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre Cats and CS
Norman, That might be a flea allergy. So,you could make efforts to get rid of the fleas and spray CS for short term soothing relief. On the other hand it could be due to too much protien in diet, or too much fish. Check the diet and spray CS for short term soothing relief. Tony Norman Cameron wrote: good morning On the subject of cats...a friend has a female 14 year old cat...the hair has gradually fell from it's lower back and upper back legs...there doesn't seem to be any pain but a lot of licking and scratching..it seems to be a progressive thing over a year or so...any ideas on how to reverse this ... thank you Norman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSConstant Currant CS
Hallo Johannes, I make and sell the ColSilGen here in South Africa. This is with Constant Current control. Please contact me for further details if you wish. Best regards, Tony Moody On 24 Nov 2004 at 3:58, johan...@cft.org.za wrote: Can some of you help me to build a Constant Currant Colloidal Silver maker (not with Batterie) Is it a difficult job? I have a very simple CS maker and use it with distilled Water. But the quality is not up to standard and I would like to improve. Any suggestions? Are most of you buying it? Which one? Johannes Tony Moody -- A I Moody, PO Box 24, Hogsback 5721, Eastern Cape, South Africa Tel/Fax : 045 962 1131 Cellphone : 073 270 6411 email : a...@new.co.za -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStea tree oil and ozone
Hi Sally, A few things you could do with your 'strong' ozone generator. Mount it up high, a few inches to a foot below the ceiling. Ozone is heavier than air and tends to flow naturally downwards, thus mixing with the room air. Use it when the house is un-occupied and then use a timer to switch it off automatically after, say an hour. Use an on/off timer. Plug that into the wall and plug the ozonator into the timer. Set the timer to something like 5 minutes on and 10 minutes off. If you can then let the ozone outlet pass through water either a mist spray or bubbled through water. Check to see if there is not an adjustment or a connection for reducing the output. Be Happy, Tony On 24 Nov 2004 at 10:25, Sally Khanna wrote: I can tell you, I do like sitting next to it, but I think I would need about 50 of them to do my whole house.LOL It was a very well-intentioned gift and I appreciate it. But the other purifier, I'm afraid to use. Sally Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Ionic Breeze® complies with U.S. safety requirements for low ozone emission (less than 50 parts per billion) as tested by Underwriters Laboratories under their UL867 standard for consumer products. Electrostatic air filters all produce 'some' ozone, some at very high levels. Ozonates the air is not the big selling point it's made out to be. [Spin to sell a poorly designed product] Obviously, a very big unit will produce more ozone over all. Even if it is low per square inch of plate area a large filter has more area. At 50 PPB at the outlet of the filter, a small enclosed room can easily go over that. ode Sharper Image air purifiers are electrostatic and do not output ozone at all. The collection plates do collect dust but I can wipe the same amount of dust from my bookshelf every few days. I had fo! ur of them in one large room and took them back within the 60 day refund period. I asked an Indoor Air Quality Specialist about the Sharper Image units when he was here testing my house for mold after a water leak from a heavy wind and rain strom. He had tested them and said that the unit they sell for a large size room is more appropriate to a small bathroom. They really don't do much but they look good. Garnet On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 00:12, Sally Khanna wrote: I have what I consider to be a good air purifier from Sharper Image. I don't smell any ozone. Recently, a friend gave me a larger (does the entire house) purifier. It has such a strong odor, neither my husband nor I can stand it, both of us ended up coughing from it. We stopped using it after a few uses. I strongly suspect the ozone levels aren't acceptable, but how ! gt; to find out? Sally Garnet wrote: Ozone is toxic to plants and animals, including humans. The toxic dose is higher than most ozone generating air filters. But the problem is that even at low concentrations it can be adsorbed by sheet rock and concentrate there, where it can being to out gas and affect those in the room. Some treatments involve removing plants, animals and people from the rooms, these involve higher concentration of ozone and these are at higher risk of adsorping into the sheet rock. As well even in very low concentrations ozone can combine with other chemicals and form more toxic compounds. It depends on what is in the air you are breathing with the low concentrations of ozone. The bottom line is that ozone is not a safe substance to play around with if you do not know exactly what is in the air and the concentration of ozone in that air. Th! is information is not widely acknowledged or even known. Most people selling ozone generating machines or services just go by what the manufacturers tell them. They do not have the technical training to check it out for themselves. Nor do they even know it is something that needs to be investigated. Garnet On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 13:07, Betsy Coffey wrote: I use a cleaner with tea tree oil that I get from the health food store and it doesnt bother my allergies at all. I had a question about ozone. Someone posted that it is toxic. They use ozone to clean the smells alike tobacco in motel rooms now. Is this toxic? Or, are you referring to something else? Some doctors are now also using it. __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated
Re: CStea tree oil and ozone
Hi Dave, Bubbling ozone through water seems to remove a sharpness from ozone. If the ozonator does not have sufficient turndown then bubbling through water will reduce the immediate ozone content. One of Renate Viebahn's books goes into this subject thoroughly, scientifically, practically and legally (Europe). hth, Tony On 25 Nov 2004 at 21:39, Dan Nave wrote: What is the purpose of bubbling it through water? Dan Re: CStea tree oil and ozone * From: Tony Moody wrote: * Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:36:53 Hi Sally, A few things you could do with your 'strong' ozone generator. Mount it up high, a few inches to a foot below the ceiling. Ozone is heavier than air and tends to flow naturally downwards, thus mixing with the room air. Use it when the house is un-occupied and then use a timer to switch it off automatically after, say an hour. Use an on/off timer. Plug that into the wall and plug the ozonator into the timer. Set the timer to something like 5 minutes on and 10 minutes off. If you can then let the ozone outlet pass through water either a mist spray or bubbled through water. Check to see if there is not an adjustment or a connection for reducing the output. Be Happy, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS: Re Nausea
Hallo Harold,
If I feel queasy, I have nausea or I feel nausea and therefore I am
nauseous having been nauseated, possibly by something
nauseating. :-{
I am sorry to say that your pile is nauseating.
Yes?
Anyway a dose of CS should sort it out very quickly.
Tony
On 26 Nov 2004 at 19:45, Harold MacDonald wrote:
May I make a small correction here re nauseous?
When you feel queasy, you are nauseated.
Now a pile of rotten green slimy putrid liver crawling with icky greasy
maggots;THAT is Nauseous!!
Harold
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CSboils
On 16 Dec 2004 at 20:46, Rene Thurston wrote: I thought I would share a silver success story with everyone, especially those who may be like me - overtly skeptical! After this, I'm almost 100% sold on the benefits of CS. Ever since my daughter was three or four (she'll be 12 in January), she has had a problem with developing staph infections out of nowhere. snip Hi Rene, What you describe could be boils. One after another or clusters of them. Most of us around here had them as kids. the rule (often broken) was not to touch them until they were ripe. If pressed too soon they would burst sideways into flesh cause a huge sore and consequent scarring. If left until the swelling and heat went down they either self absorbed or could be popped out in a neat capsule leaving very little scarring. I was put on short course of zinc tablets and never had another one. hth, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlymphoma
On 20 Dec 2004 at 11:49, Steve wrote: I have been diagnosed with Lymphomaand am putting out to anyone who have had success stories re: treating with CS? I'm a bit nervous about receiving too many e-mails so please please please only serious responses regarding Lymphoma only and no sales pitches. Thanks to all Steve Hi Steve, I trust that you are already on the way to full health. I can't comment practically on CS and lymphoma but have thoughts that indicate it should work well. So i have already ignored your request. :~) May i offer you the following based on experience: Choose your protocol/s and then don't stop too soon. Give your treatments a reasonable chance of success by deciding before how long your first course should be, to test for preliminary positive results. Further to this, as a general rule, is that if a cure has been effected in a certain time then carry on with the treatment for another three times longer (maybe at reduced dose). For instance, if taking CS has cured your cold in three days; it would be prudent to carry on taking the cs for another 9 days, a/ to knock the the side infections and opportinists down. b/ to allow the immune system time and space to build up stronger. May you and yours be blessed and filled with the Power of Peace and Joy. Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpurification of water
Jonathan, You could try a hiking shop for the iodine water treatment crystals. Uhh. Sodium chloride, is table salt.!! Tony On 6 Jan 2005 at 11:00, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: I read yesterday that 200,000 liters of sodium chloride have been distributed in Indonesia; this is enough to purify water for one million persons, the article said. I am totally unfamiliar with sodium chloride, but this is what is on the scene. I still want to get a supply of those resublimated iodine crystals mentioned below, but I have not yet stumbled on a source of them. JBB On Thursday, Jan 6, 2005, at 09:43 Asia/Tokyo, himagain wrote: Hi folks, I clipped this from this very list some unknown time ago - very fascinating in the light of the Tsunami tragedy. --- From(Principles of Pharmacy--Arny-Fischeles). From Remington's Pharmaceutical Sciences 17th edition: Iodine is one of the three best all-around antiseptics. It is active against bacteria, fungi, yeasts, protozoa, and viruses. Iodine may be used to purify drinking water. 5 to 10 drops of 2% iodine tincture to a quart of water left for 1 hr. is both amebacidal and bactericidal. Some communities use iodine in lieu of chlorine for water purification because organic matter has little effect to antagonize iodine, as it does chlorine, and carcinogenic compounds are not generated. Related topic: I read in a great Reader's Digest hardcover book on a back to nature theme that the best, simplest water purification kit for hikers and survivalists is a small, clear screw-top jar with five grams of resublimated iodine crystals. I have never heard the term resublimated and hope our pharmacist Mr. R. Harris can enlighten us. Bottom line: one bottle of these crystals can be used ONE THOUSAND TIMES. Fill up the jar with any old water and shake it. Three tsps. of shaken water can purify a quart in 20 minutes. Remarkable, I think.Seems to be a modest supply of these crystals would last the average family for decades.They are available only from a pharmacy I read. What a good idea to use our contacts to get this AND CS information to some of the aid agency people? Anyone? BTW: SUBLIMATED: Having passed from the solid to the gaseous state (or vice versa) without becoming liquid. RE-sublimated? Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArgyria cure
Hi Paul, There must be more to argyria than just drinking CS made with tap water. I have been making and taking CS made with tap water, roof water, river water and well water and bottled around varous parts of South Africa for the past 10 or 12 years. No argyria here personally or with any of my family or friends. And no complaints as far as I know. I make and sell the ColSilGen cc which is a colloidal silver generator with constant current set at 1mA and using a single 9v battery. Two silver rods 2.5mm diameter and 75mm long and clamped at 10mm spacing. Basically the advice is two to three minutes per 250ml of water or 40 to 60 minutes per 250ml for distilled water. 1 teaspoon per day up to 3 tablespoons, three times per day, depending on circumstances. That is max of 135ml per day (about 1/2 a cup). 1/3 to 1/2 the dose to babies or children. Is it dose related? I have taken CS as drinking water for a few days, (2 to 3 litre per day on a desert hiking trip) with no remarkable effects. Is it related to the water treatment? I would really like to know. regards, Tony On 11 Jan 2005 at 16:31, Paul Holloway wrote: Hi List, A man on another list I frequent has drinking CS made with tapwater (yes, I know) and is now developing argyria. I have explained to him what he has been drinking, but I know there is a protocol for eliminating it. I am having trouble finding it in the archives. Would someone be so kind as to enlighten me? Thanks, Paul H -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBurns
Hi Bob, Bad luck about the burn. You could add a generous helping of iron supplement to help with the replacement of 'cooked' cells. Also please stretch your fingers even though it hurts. Else your hand will turn into a claw. all the best, Tony On 12 Jan 2005 at 8:26, Medwith, Robert wrote: I forgot to add besides 2 pain meds a tetanus shot and antibiotics, the doctor prescribed Vitamin E and C to promote healing. Never had a doctor actually recommend Vitamins for healing. Bob -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Medwith, Robert Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:00 AM To: 'cs' Subject: CSBurns Well I burned my hand with a Plasma Cutter yesterday, it hurt like hell. I kept spraying my hand with CS and it stoped the pain as long as it was wet. I went for treatment, when I was done and all bandaged up pain had stoped. I wonder if the pain stoped because of the early use of the CS. Second degree burns between middle and first finger on left hand. Did the CS have any thing to do with the pain stoping. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArgyria cure
Hi Mike, If I had to use only good distilled water I wouldn't have any CS. Exorbitantly expensive and a round trip of 350km and tastes/smells like diesel. If I was selling CS and wanted shelflife then I would go the route of making a double or triple distiller. Yes, I estimated 2 to 5ppm for 2 to 5 minutes. So we are in the order of magnitude there. :-) If 2 to 5 ppm works and is not harmful in any way then why go higher?? And if I am drinking the water anyway, can adding some silver to it make it worse? From my point of view adding some silver is better than doing nothing. Using my rig and iv quality distilled water and no stirring, the current increased slowly and then accelerated (logrithmic?). With intermittent stirring, the current would drop back partway and rise again. I probably still have my notes but it was several years ago. I notice that you have no parameter for electrode spacing; nor for agitation or flowrate past the electrodes. Both are very important practical considerations in my view. As important as current density, which also does not seem to appear in your calcs either. Tony On 12 Jan 2005 at 16:57, Mike Monett wrote: Hi Tony, Silver electrolysis should only be done with pure distilled water. Why? For plain water, and assuming your constant current source goes into full limiting as soon as current is applied, a current of 1mA for 3 minutes in 250ml will liberate 1.609ppm of silver ions. (Calculations provided at the end.) OK This is an insignificant amount of silver, and most of the ions will probably combine with various contaminants in the water. What do you mean by insignificant? Works for me and others. Heh! What are contaminants to you are what make delicious mountain spring water for me. If you are relying on this to protect you against water-borne disease, I'd recommend boiling, or any of the other proven methods for purifying water. It is not possible to calculate the amount of silver liberated in your distilled water example, since the voltage across the cell is too low. The initial resistance of the dw will allow only a small current to flow. The current will build up slowly, but it is doubtful the current limiter will go into full limiting during the brew cycle. Since we do not know the average current, we cannot calculate the amount of silver liberated. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMarshall--sinus bleeding
Hi Marshall, Are you still chelating? If so, that could be stripping some of your blood clotting minerals too. Tony On 14 Jan 2005 at 14:13, Marshall Dudley wrote: Thanks, I may try that. The bleeding has tapered off, so I am getting very little now. I think it will likely stop in the next few days by itself. Marshall Shirley Reed wrote: Marshall, you have probably already thought of -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCo-Q-10
If you want more coQ10 why not eat a ripe fresh apple or two per day? Tony On 18 Jan 2005 at 12:20, Dan Nave wrote: I can't support this with references at this time, but it is my recollection that some people were selling CoQ10 in an oil base and claiming that it was about 3 times more effective than the regular (dry) CoQ10 since it was only oil soluble. So they were selling less mg for a higher price. I felt that it was possible that one could get a better bang for the buck by dissolving in oil or mixing the CoQ10 with an edible oil before ingesting. Perhaps it could also be taken together with some lecithin. Dan CSCo-Q-10 From: SJY (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:01:57 -- -- All, My wife I have been taking Co-Q-10 for so long that we have forgotten why we do it! It is getting more expensive, and we are wondering why we should continue with it, or if there are other less expensive products that do the equivalent thing. I do remember that the body naturally produces this, and the amount it produces tapers off as we get older. Are their techniques to utilize more of the supplemental Co-Q-10, similar to mixing Gatorade with EIS? Yes, this is off-topic, so just a quick answer we can drop the thread. --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArgyria cure
On 17 Jan 2005 at 15:13, Mike Monett wrote: Re: CSArgyria cure From: Tony Moody Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:12:58 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m76924.html Hi Mike, If I had to use only good distilled water I wouldn't have any CS. Exorbitantly expensive and a round trip of 350km and tastes/smells like diesel. If I was selling CS and wanted shelflife then I would go the route of making a double or triple distiller. You mentioned using dw in your first post. Strange it is so difficult to get. Are there any power plants nearby that use deionized water for their boilers? How about hospitals? Can you have it shipped to you? Yes that was many years ago while I lived in a city. Not so strange really; this is South Africa. The nearest operating powerplant is about 1200km and is nuclear, so I'll skip that. The other one is about 2000km the other way and those are coalfired. Anyway I wouldn't touch boiler condensate because it has all sorts of stuff including chloramines in it. Hospitals; I try not to go near them. Yes, I estimated 2 to 5ppm for 2 to 5 minutes. So we are in the order of magnitude there. :-) If 2 to 5 ppm works and is not harmful in any way then why go higher?? How do you know it works? Probably most of it combines with contaminants in the water and is not available to kill bugs. Well it really works very well topically on wounds, scalds and zits. and fairly well on herpes infections ( I think it needs to be applied often to work to completion.) It is an excellent underarm deodorant but doesn't last long enough for me. It stops BO immediately. It is really good and quick for settling upset stomach due to bad food. It works on colds if taken soon enough and often enough. You seem to be strong and healthy, and have not yet experienced a life-threatening infection. So you are not yet aware of your own mortality. I'm offended by your judgements and assumptions. I'm certainly not going to get into a little pissing contest comparing wounds and diseases with you. I used to be like you, but things change as we have different experiences and grow older. You begin to see what can go wrong instead of expecting everything will work fine. Umm, I'll just ignore this. And if I am drinking the water anyway, can adding some silver to it make it worse? From my point of view adding some silver is better than doing nothing. Do a google search on purifying water for hikers. There are some extremely dangerous bugs out there. The small amount of silver you are adding won't have any effect on them. You are deluding yourself. I notice that you have no parameter for electrode spacing; nor for agitation or flowrate past the electrodes. Both are very important practical considerations in my view. As important as current density, which also does not seem to appear in your calcs either. I was the one who alerted the list to the importance of current density in my ULVDC posts several years ago. I have included the full conversion factors at the end for your use. However, I did not feel it would be worth the time to convert your metric dimensions to inches. Electrode spacing is of no concern in your system since you use water with unknown conductivity. Current flow has no effect on the maximum available ppm. Mike, I think you are deluding yourself. There was a heated debate involving many able people and all parameters many years before you made an appearance on this list. I saw use less than 10.7uA/mm^2 in an email from Ole Bob well before the end of 1999. Your system is out of control. You have no idea what your initial current is, and it will change every time you dip your glass in a stream. You have no tests to confirm it is working, or if you are actually getting any useful silver ions from the brew. You should at least do a milk test to see the effect of your cs. Mike, You do not know what you are talking about. I remain offended by your assumptions. Tony On 12 Jan 2005 at 16:57, Mike Monett wrote: Hi Tony, Silver electrolysis should only be done with pure distilled water. Why? You don't know what contaminants are in the water that will combine with the silver ions and render them useless. Even distilled water needs constant monitoring to ensure your process is working. You have no controls on your process at all, and you don't know if it is working or not. For plain water, and assuming your constant current source goes into full limiting as soon as current is applied, a current of 1mA for 3 minutes in 250ml will liberate 1.609ppm of silver ions. (Calculations provided at the end.) OK This is an insignificant amount of silver
CScold feet
On 21 Jan 2005 at 17:16, Denise Rollheiser wrote: snip Isuffered from cold feet (internal core cold NOT cold to touch) in 1998 after the radioactive isotope drink to deal with my overactive thyroid; this symptom went away when my thyroid counts were better under control. I have again been living with 'core cold feet' since my Thank you. snip Denise Saskatoon, Sk Canada neec...@sasktel.net Hi Denise, Some other suggestions: Working your toes might re-establish pathways. A Reflexologist or Polarity Therapist near you could do this for you and teach you how to do it at home. If you want some details then I could write it up for you. But the touch is so very important. Also leg rubs, walking, warm foot baths, walking barefoot, lymph drainage. You could look at magnesium supplementation, probably in conjuction with calcium. Ozone by bagging the leg (or legs) I think that this could be caused (among other things) by stress chemicals which have not had a chance to be eliminated. So almost anything that helps to improve elimination! Skin brushing is very useful. And anything that helps to cope and deal with stress! Watching your CS making process is a great soothing, calming meditation. Be very well. Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS)T: Possible Response to Codex A. Effects
On 28 Jan 2005 at 16:21, Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear Brooks, Welcome back. I do hope that you and yours are well. Could you also elaborate on how to extract the vit C. Here it is early autumn and there are hips on some of the wild rosebushes. Does one make a jam? or dry and crush the hips to be used as a tea? So glad you are back, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks
Hi Nenah, May you be very happy in your new home. Have you tried connecting well water straight into the Ionizer? To test whether the filter is the culprit. I can think of two potential problems. 1/ Something has got into the ionizer causing a problem, possibly blocking a port or covering an electrode or sensor. 2/ The new filter is functionally different so that the water leaving the filter is now strongly buffered by passing through the filter. I can only imagine that slowing the water flow would cause the electrolysis process to be 'better' or 'stronger' hth, Tony On 6 Feb 2005 at 19:57, Nenah Sylver wrote: Dear People, I have a challenge with my water system and would like your input, especially from the chemistry-minded folk of this list. In November I moved my home and office 6 miles to an even more remote country location. The house's water supply is fed by a well. The water's pH tests at around 6.2, much too acidic to drink (it should be at least a neutral 7.0). As with my prior location, the water purification setup at my new locale consists of two countertop water treatment units. The first is a simple filter with coconut shell, to remove the particulate matter -- and save wear and tear on the second water unit. The second water unit is a Singer Ionizer Plus, which electrolizes the water and sends the acid and alkaline fluids to separate chambers. You drink the alkaline water and use the acidic water externally (the skin is acidic and really benefits from the acid water). At my new location, the electrolyzed water initially tested from about 7.2 to 8.6, depending on the low or high settings of the Singer electrolysis system. The alkaline water tasted sweet and felt smooth. However, then we needed to replace the cartridge in Unit #1. The company that makes the first unit redesigned the cartridge and now we're having water problems. The mouth on both ends of the cartridge is much narrower than before. Presumably, this has lowered the pressure of the water flowing into the Singer. So now, even with the Singer unit on the highest setting, the water's pH doesn't get much higher than 6.6. The manufacturer of Unit #1 (the one that changed the cartridge) doesn't want to talk to us because we're not a large account. But someone at the Singer dealership did talk to us. We were told that well water is tricky to test for pH, because often there's carbonic acid (dissolved carbon dioxide) in the water. The remedy, the company rep continued, is to let the water sit overnight so the carbon dioxide can dissipate -- and THEN test the water the next morning. So I followed their advice. I electrolyzed the water at the second setting and the highest setting, let the two containers of water sit overnight, and then retested the pH the next morning. There was no difference between the night before and the next morning. The highest pH was still about 6.6. Here are the mysteries: 1) Why would changing the water pressure (narrowing the mouth of the cartridge on Machine #1) create a difference in pH? 2) Why didn't the carbon dioxide escape from the open water? 3) If the carbon dioxide didn't escape from the open water, it's possible that the acidic readings weren't the result of carbonic acid. If not, what was creating the acid? All this leads to yet another issue: Obviously, we're going to filter our water to get rid of sediment and chemicals. But drinking acidic water is out of the question. What can we put into the water to raise the pH? I experimented with putting 50% concentrated pharmaceutical grade potassium hydroxide into the acidic water. I had to use at least four drops to get the water to an acceptably alkaline level (it only gets to about 7.2)..But now there is an unpleasant taste to the water. I really liked using the Singer when the results were working. Alkaline water is wonderfully sweet and has great energy. But any water electrolysis unit produces results that are only as good as the water that feeds it. My only other option is to make distilled water, and add minerals to it for drinking. Technically, distilled water has a pH of 7.0 because it doesn't contain minerals. However, in reality this rarely is the case, because as soon as distilled water is exposed to the air it violently reacts with carbon dioxide and becomes acidic. For instance, I once tested the pH of distilled water that was freshly made with a friend's distiller, and the pH was only 6.2. Nevertheless, I ordered a distiller and expect it next week. I don't know what pH this unit will create. Hopefully, the pH will be closer to 7.0 than not. Even if the pH is 6.8, it's exponentially *much* better than even 6.6 -- and I'll be able to add *less* potassium hydroxide to get it to the pH I want. However, I don't know the ramifications of drinking potassium hydroxide on a regular basis. I figure that if the water tastes bad, that's an
Re: CSPyro-Energyn
Hi Steve, There is the Molecular Enhancer made by Dan Dial milcr...@earthlink.net which may be similar. Good reports with that. He makes and sells them but I should have the plans somewhere if you want to make your own. Almost fling yourself on an electric fence treatment. Gives you quite a buzz. But rows of people wait to use it in the dr's rooms. The major trouble with it is that it eats the building. Some of the voltage gets out and goes across the floor under the device and causes blackening and burning of the flooring material. Tony On 18 Feb 2005 at 21:30, SJY wrote: All, I looked through the website to try to determine how the pyro-energyn device works. It appears to produce some sort of high voltage very low current output coupled to the body via bare feet on the device. Whether it is DC, AC, constant or variable frequency, pulsed, etc. I could not tell. How it can produce the seemingly miraculous claimed results is also not specified. The claim is that it works with negative static electricity. Taken literally, static means DC. Perhaps it is just a current limited negative high voltage supply of several thousand volts? In that case then perhaps the surface of the user becomes a large negative ion generator? If so, how in the world can that affect us internally, except through the inhalation of negatively charged air? But there are plenty of air ionizers used throughout the world with no significant attendant reduction in viral diseases. So, can anyone shed some details on the device? How and why does it work? Is it for real or another quack device to rob you of about $800 dollars? Seems like one could build a similar unit for considerably less cost, if one knew the electrical specifications of the output. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:14 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: Cancer Alternative treatments Laurie, You must look into getting this machine, the Pyro-energen. It was discovered by a Japanese MD and is now being manufactured in the US and Phillipines. It works through negative static electricity... absolutely no side effects but kills any and all virus in the body. It does not kill bacteria but most Leukemia is virus induced (even if ultimately caused by chemical exposure or radiation, this damages the cells/immune system that allows the virus to infect cellular DNA). One case cited cured his leukemia in ONE WEEK. http://www.pyroenergen.com/ Best of luck. Bob - Original Message - From: Laurie Bartlett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:40 AM Subject: CSRE: Cancer Alternative treatments Hi Mike, I am sorry for your loss. My dad has Leukemia that is in remission. Can you direct me to the search for alternative treatments? I would like to start now and hopefully be prepared if needed. Thanks so much. Laurie http://www.youravon.com/lbartlett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
