Re: Do you use the default "Advertise Firefox compatiblity" option in your SeaMonkey?
Ant composed on 2020-04-12 20:57 (UTC-0700): > I have to disable it for YouTube.com so I can rate, get faster web site > speeds, etc. However, I lose its chat feature. > What about the rest of you? Thank you for reading and hopefully > answering. :) I don't chat except using CZ or FB Messenger. I don't spoof Firefox except on specific cluelessly built sites that don't work right otherwise. general.useragent.compatMode.firefox;false I have an extra special one just for Google: general.useragent.override.google.com;Mozilla/52.0 Most specials are like this: general.useragent.override.usps.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0 Most see what I'm actually using: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.1 -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: vers. seamonkey 2.53.1 for Mac Os x 10.15 and YouTube
jvanderlinden8@ composed on 2020-04-13 09:42 (UTC-0700): > I am a gratefull user for more than 10 years from the Netherlands. Since two > weeks now I have problems with the use of Youtube: They are warning me that my > Browser must have an update otherwise I can't use YouTube anymore in a short > time. I don't hink that I am the only one, so who can help me/help us out? Try in about:config adding this: Name: general.useragent.override.www.youtube.com String: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0 -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where to now??
Chris Ilias composed on 2020-03-05 06:51 (UTC-0500): > Daniel wrote: >> For a couple of years now, I've been looking in on the SeaMonkey irc >> channel on the Moznet irc server. >> But now that that irc server has been closed, where should I be, please?? > The successor to irc.mozilla.org is https://chat.mozilla.org What's it take to make SM not show an empty white screen opening that? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What happens next?
Rubens via support-seamonkey composed on 2020-02-25 01:41 (UTC+0100): >> Seamonkey exists not in any Ubuntu, Debian, nor Red Hat/Fedora >> repository I checked out, nor any other Linux package. > That is not correct. > Seamonkey exists for decades in SUSE Linux: > https://packagehub.suse.com/packages/seamonkey/ Also: https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/1.0/seamonkey-1.0.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_15.2/x86_64/seamonkey-2.49.5-lp152.6.3.x86_64.rpm http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/x86_64/seamonkey-2.49.5-lp151.6.2.x86_64.rpm http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/x86_64/seamonkey-2.49.5-6.5.x86_64.rpm http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/i586/seamonkey-2.49.4-1.147.i586.rpm https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.5/linux-x86_64/ https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.5/linux-i686/ http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=seamonkey https://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mageia/7/i586/media/core/release/iceape-2.49.4-2.mga7.i586.html https://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/iceape-2.49.4-2.mga7.x86_64.html https://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mageia/1/x86_64/media/core/release/iceape-2.0.14-2.mga1.x86_64.html and lots more -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Multiple failures after disk became full (Linux)
Manuel Casal Lodeiro composed on 2019-11-08 20:41 (UTC+0100): > I'm a > long time user of the Mozilla browser genealogy (started in 1993 with > Mosaic, then Netscape, then Mozilla Suite, then Seamonkey) When the space problem became apparent, had you been compacting: ever? automatically? manually? I didn't start until 1997, but have been on the same path since. I don't have nearly so many accounts, so can't offer anything via experience except to give bisection a try in roughly this tedious fashion: Close SM. Remove *.msf from all accounts. Backup what remains. Copy only the mail files from one or more of the accounts, up to half the total, back. Start SM Mail. If good, shutdown SM, copy back half the remainder and try again. If not, shutdown SM, empty those again, and try the other half. With any luck, you'll narrow the problem to a single account, or even better, one mail file. Somewhere along the way, possibly at the start, you may need to remove places.sqlite. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newer machine search (was: Ubuntuzilla install of Seamonkey 2.49.5 missing file)
MRoss-GMX composed on 2019-10-14 25:33 (UTC-0500): >> Sat, 12 Oct 2019 00:31 -0400 Jonathan N. Little wrote: >> I think your problem is the GMA 950 old Intel video. Support problems >> with newer kernels. You can try editing the boot parameter in grub and add >> i915.lvds_use_ssc=0 >> supposed to fix it. > I wondered about the graphics sys in this thing, so will try it. Been > a while since I edited GRUB. Carefully! >> But you do have really old hardware. A newer T430 are going for @ >> $100-$150 comes with a 3-4 gen i5. I have a L530 I bought a few years >> ago $200 running 18.04 no problems. > I am looking for a newer machine, just not up to date on which is > best, and overloaded with other matters. GMA was the last Intel GPU generation before Intel moved the GPU from the Northbridge to the CPU die. Those since then have proven quite reliable with Linux, and with very respectable performance, not infrequently on par with higher cost discrete GPUs from NVidia and AMD. Don't let yourself get confused with generations. The numbers for the chipsets and CPUs are different from those for the GPUs. I use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_graphics_processing_units for keeping things straight. If you're looking for good value, look for any of the off-lease "refurbs" made since around 2010. I have 3 Dell Optiplex 760 and 780 models with the last of the GMAs (Gen4) that were the first to do x264 video playback in hardware, very decent compared to early GMAs like the 950, but newer custom builts from 2013 (Haswell by MSI) and 2018 (Kaby Lake by Asus & Gigabyte) that are considerably better. Best long term value is probably in the 3-4 years old range, Broadwell/Gen8. Both Intel and AMD are well supported by free drivers, while NVidia continues to withhold specifications, which forces FOSS driver writers to reverse engineer, which in turn forces many of its Linux users to use its proprietary drivers that are often difficult to keep in sync with kernel upgrades. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new SeaMonkey web forum!
EE composed on 2019-10-14 13:41 (UTC-0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> <https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries> >> should work for a while. > How do you get into the pages? All I can find is summeries and dates, not > the > actual pages from the site. Methinks the wayback machine is currently useless. Links clicked produce no response in Firefox, Chromium or SeaMonkey. I don't remember it ever failing to work before. Try again later or tomorrow. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new SeaMonkey web forum!
David E. Ross composed on 2019-10-13 12:16 (UTC-0700): > WaltS48 wrote: >> The mozillaZine forums, which is not affiliated with Mozilla in any way, >> are shutting down. It is a replacement for the SeaMonkey category at >> mozillaZine. >> <http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=51=c37997e5365101e6cf97a4bd22c73a90> >> See <http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38=3055133> > I am much more concerned about the MozillaZine compendium of preference > variables at <http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries>. Yes, I > know it has not been updated in over two years; but much of it is still > current. <https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries> should work for a while. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't undo a local (POP3) e-mail folder move?
Ant composed on 2019-09-28 16:22 (UTC-0700): > I just accidently moved a local POP3 (not IMAP) e-mail folder in my > SeaMonkey v2.49.5. I noticed ctrl-z and undo options didn't work because > they were disabled for this move. Is anyone else seeing this too? If so, > then that's weird that it is disabled. :( Totally exit SM. Move the content of the unwanted disk directory into its parent. Delete the unwanted directory. Restart SM. I don't know why undo would be unavailable. I don't often move "folders" in email purposely, and it's been a while, probably in 2.49.4, since it happened accidentally. Maybe there was some content from it open in a browser tab or otherwise open at the filesystem level, maybe places.sqlite. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to find where a specific bookmark is in my SM's Bookmark Manager?
Rubens via support-seamonkey composed on 2019-09-23 00:00 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote on 22/09/2019 20:32: >> Show Parent Folder-2.1-sm+fx.xpi > Here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8906049=edit > Right-click on "Download the attachement" -> Save link target as... # wget "https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8906049; --2019-09-22 18:27:24-- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8906049 Resolving bugzilla.mozilla.org (bugzilla.mozilla.org)... 54.149.196.22, 34.223.154.128, 34.223.165.229 Connecting to bugzilla.mozilla.org (bugzilla.mozilla.org)|54.149.196.22|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 400 Bad Request 2019-09-22 18:27:24 ERROR 400: Bad Request. # wget --user-agent="" "https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8906049; worked. Websites for downloads can be so annoying, especially addons.mozilla.org. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to find where a specific bookmark is in my SM's Bookmark Manager?
Rubens via support-seamonkey composed on 2019-09-22 20:03 (UTC+0200): > JAS wrote: >> I have an old add on,Show Parent Folder-2.1-sm+fx.xpi that still works in my >> SM version 2.49.4, it adds a Parent Folder column to the right side of the >> bookmark manger ( Ctrl/B ) and when you do a search in the manager it show >> which folder or folders it is in. > I couldn't find the version you mentioned, then downloaded version 2.1.1 which > initially didn't work on Seamonkey 2.49.4 but after passing it through the > "Add-ons Converter" webpage (http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/) it did the > trick. How did you find what you found? Where? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MLB standings -- just me?
Paul B. Gallagher composed on 2019-09-21 00:48 (UTC-0400): > Third attempt, this time without the screenshot, which seems to get my > message blocked. > The last few days, when I try to view the standings, I get a basic > heading and nothing more. Is it just me? > <https://www.mlb.com/yankees/standings> Works in Chromium, Falkon and Firefox ESR 60, but not in Firefox ESR 52, Konqueror or Palemoon, so it's by design discriminatory. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.5 thankful for the release.
Paul Bergsagel composed on 2019-09-04 21:06 (UTC-0500): > I would like to help out and test 2.53.x--I am hesitant since I have > heard that once you have installed 2.53.x the user profile changes and > is no longer compatible with 2.49.x so I am hesitant to do any testing. > Maybe when 2.53 is ready for full time use I will consider testing and > filing bugs. Create and use a different profile. I have more than a dozen to cover various versions of Firefox, SeaMonkey and New/Pale Moon, 4 of which are typically running at once, and for days at a time. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ver. 2.53--2.53.1
Rainer Bielefeld composed on 2019-09-02 12:28 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> What does "accessibility" mean in that context? > Accessibility for disabled people > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility Apparently you didn't see and/or understand my .sig Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! and/or don't know what in context means. "a11y" is shorthand for accessibility. How is it that registration is required for accessibility to work in Windows, as opposed to anything else about SM working in Windows. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ver. 2.53--2.53.1
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2019-09-02 10:13 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> JAS composed on 2019-09-01 18:58 (UTC-0600): >>> I have never used the zip format. >> I started using them somewhere around 2002 or earlier, before Mozilla Suite >> 1.4, >> and before Firefox was concocted from Firebird from Phoenix from Mozilla >> Suite. >> I've never that I can remember used a .EXE version of any Mozilla software >> on any >> of my own PCs. TBC, I mis-wrote. s/Mozilla software/Mozilla application installation software/. If I wasn't running a .EXE, I wasn't running any Mozilla application that came from any of its .zip downloads. :-p > Using the zip on Windows will not register mapi and accessibility support. If > you don't miss it there the zip is fine. I open the application first, then the file, just like in DOS, same as almost 4 decades ago, and using terminals on mainframes a decade before that. What does "accessibility" mean in that context? How often are such registrations required? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ver. 2.53--2.53.1
JAS composed on 2019-09-01 18:58 (UTC-0600): > I have never used the zip format. I started using them somewhere around 2002 or earlier, before Mozilla Suite 1.4, and before Firefox was concocted from Firebird from Phoenix from Mozilla Suite. I've never that I can remember used a .EXE version of any Mozilla software on any of my own PCs. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: images blurred
Felix Miata composed on 2019-08-12 10:08 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata composed on 2019-08-12 10:02 (UTC-0400): >> meagain composed on 2019-08-12 09:46 (UTC-0400): >>> https://www.bostonglobe.com/ >> When I select to view any of those images, the image is only 20x15 or 20x18 >> pixels, small icon size, so the normal size images provided by the page have >> apparently been zoomed many orders of magnitude, resulting in nothing but >> blurs. > Solved by using: > general.useragent.override.www.bostonglobe.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; > Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 instead of normal > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4; BTW, I also use NoScript, and a very large hosts file blocking adservers. URL of 20x14 ‘He is always with girls’ image in SeaMonkey 2.49.5: https://www.bostonglobe.com/resizer/4Ts84XI6iC7WO7a99VKm2Ow8azU=/20x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/SLGLKVEG3YI6TML7JRWQENNF6Q.jpg URL of 599x427 ‘He is always with girls’ image in Firefox 52: https://www.bostonglobe.com/resizer/sh_ciRW-kGcrGHGpXHKHM_S9olM=/fit-in/600x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/SLGLKVEG3YI6TML7JRWQENNF6Q.jpg -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: images blurred
Felix Miata composed on 2019-08-12 10:02 (UTC-0400): > meagain composed on 2019-08-12 09:46 (UTC-0400): >> https://www.bostonglobe.com/ > When I select to view any of those images, the image is only 20x15 or 20x18 > pixels, small icon size, so the normal size images provided by the page have > apparently been zoomed many orders of magnitude, resulting in nothing but > blurs. Solved by using: general.useragent.override.www.bostonglobe.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 instead of normal Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4; -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: images blurred
meagain composed on 2019-08-12 09:46 (UTC-0400): > https://www.bostonglobe.com/ When I select to view any of those images, the image is only 20x15 or 20x18 pixels, small icon size, so the normal size images provided by the page have apparently been zoomed many orders of magnitude, resulting in nothing but blurs. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Advertising Blocker in SeaMonkey 2.49.4
Frog composed on 2019-06-27 14:45 (UTC-0400): > I am sure that there must be some way to stop adds from showing up on my > computer. I have searched the internet for a program that will put an > end to my add problem with no joy. Some of what I read was above my > technical ability to follow. Any suggestions appreciated. The vast majority of ads can be avoided using CSS. Some examples are at: <https://gist.github.com/spyesx/42fe84c0ef757d1c38a4/forks> >From there <https://gist.github.com/spyesx/42fe84c0ef757d1c38a4/archive/86d2c2463ff3fc6b8834da2efdec18bbb0533840.zip> can be extracted into your profile's chrome directory (create it if you don't already have it) and used as-is as a place to start. Compelling sites that don't work in SeaMonkey due to this type of blocking, or UA incompetence, I open instead in Firefox or Chromium. Sites you frequent you might wish to customize, e.g. via add-on: https://userstyles.org/ No method is perfect, but they help a lot. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Name of password file
Keith N. McKenna composed on 2019-05-15 10:48 (UTC-0400): > I recently inadvertently deleted my saved passwords file. can someone > point me to the name of the file so I can restore it from backup? > SeaMonkey version 2.49.4 OS version Windows 10 1809. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not A Robot
Tom Pamin composed on 2019-05-14 17:30 (UTC-0400): >> Try spoofing your UA string to FF 55.0 or something other than 64,65,66. > My UA string shows 64.0. If I go back to 55 won't this cause issues with > sites saying my browser is old? Current ESR is 60. I use 60 for several sites via about:config: general.useragent.override. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 My normal is: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URLs missing from download manager
David E. Ross composed on 2019-05-01 08:20 (UTC-0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Is there a setting in about:config I can set to put automatic downloads URLs >> in >> the manager even though I've aborted them? Some source pages don't put the >> backup >> source URL where it's discoverable. I don't download anything with a >> browser. I >> use a downloader, usually wget, which allows me instant and easy selection of >> download location, saved filename editing, and preservation of the source >> file's >> timestamp, not to mention resume after interrupt. > At the far right of the Download Manager window in the same line as Name > and just under the Clear List button, you should see a strange icon. > Select that icon. In the resulting pull-down menu, select Source to > place a checkmark there. That's already there. The problem is nothing shows up in the download manager unless a download is allowed to begin, which means if I want access to the URL I have to waste my time finding a partial download and deleting it, or nothing at all ever shows up on the window. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unsupported Browser Notice
Daniel composed on 2019-05-02 17:13 (UTC+1000): > What's sm.next, Felix?? If I knew for certain it's what I would have written. I expect it will be 2.49.5. :-D -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unsupported Browser Notice
Felix Miata composed on 2019-04-24 17:41 (UTC-0400): > Brian Mailman composed on 2019-04-24 12:50 (UTC-0700): >> Hi, I'm now receiving a notice of "Unsupported Browser" and that my >> Seamonkey is "outdated" when I try to go to davita.com . > Idiotic web page design. :-( More insanity: I filled a cart at https://www.jackssmallengines.com/ in ESR52, but got no reaction from any mouse click anywhere in the cart, and no kind of warning about unsupported browser. I redid my order in 2.49.4 and was able to complete my purchase. >> The notice recommends Firefox, among others. I forget where the setting >> is, but I do have this copy of Seamonkey set to identify itself as Firefox! >> Help? Thanks in advance. > about:config > general.useragent.override.fedex.com > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 > works at fedex.com, ought to work in similar manner at davita.com. For good measure for next time in sm.next I added: general.useragent.override.jackssmallengines.com Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
URLs missing from download manager
Is there a setting in about:config I can set to put automatic downloads URLs in the manager even though I've aborted them? Some source pages don't put the backup source URL where it's discoverable. I don't download anything with a browser. I use a downloader, usually wget, which allows me instant and easy selection of download location, saved filename editing, and preservation of the source file's timestamp, not to mention resume after interrupt. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unsupported Browser Notice
JAS composed on 2019-04-29 18:48 (UTC-0600): > FedEx site complains about my SM 2.49.4 when I use Delivery Manager > --Suggest Firefox 38 + That used to annoy me, but "this" WFM for several years now (recently updated to be 66.0 instead of 60.0): about:config: general.useragent.override.fedex.com Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: moznet retirement (was: Staying alive - how can I help?)
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2019-04-29 11:57 (UTC+0200): > It is the usual spiel. Abuse bla bla bla and we won't have this. Even with > irc > you can kick and moderate users. This is imho just another attempt to silence > opinions they don't like. Bet the newsgroups will follow. There is already irc://freenode/#seamonkey. Is there any real reason to mourn moznet's demise? Will not we all just move to freenode? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unsupported Browser Notice - SOLVED
Daniel composed on 2019-04-29 14:27 (UTC+1000): > Brian Mailman wrote: >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> Brian Mailman wrote: >>>> Hi, I'm now receiving a notice of "Unsupported Browser" and that my >>>> Seamonkey is "outdated" when I try to go to davita.com . >>>> The notice recommends Firefox, among others. I forget where the >>>> setting is, but I do have this copy of Seamonkey set to identify >>>> itself as Firefox! >>>> Help? Thanks in advance. >>> Simply disable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" and reload: >>> Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking >> That did it. >> Thanks to everyone who had the same/similar suggestion, it's greatly >> appreciated!! You folks are the best! > Hmm! NOT advertising 'Firefox' fixed a problem!! That's different!! ;-) I've been not advertising Firefox for more years than I can remember, with the exception of 5 general.useragent.override.* settings, where Firefox and Windows (instead of Linux) are advertised, and SeaMonkey is not. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unsupported Browser Notice
Brian Mailman composed on 2019-04-24 12:50 (UTC-0700): > Hi, I'm now receiving a notice of "Unsupported Browser" and that my > Seamonkey is "outdated" when I try to go to davita.com . Idiotic web page design. :-( > The notice recommends Firefox, among others. I forget where the setting > is, but I do have this copy of Seamonkey set to identify itself as Firefox! > Help? Thanks in advance. about:config general.useragent.override.fedex.com Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 works at fedex.com, ought to work in similar manner at davita.com. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: saving memory with prefs.js entry
j...@comcast.com composed on 2019-03-13 21:04 (UTC-0400): > how should the preference be added? should it be in user.js or prefs.js? > Other than protocol, does it really make any difference which file it > would be added to? You should not write to prefs.js. You can read it. For user.js it's the opposite, the app only reads it, while you create it and write it should you choose to. Content in user.js will be applied on every startup. Prefs added or changed via about:config normally remains until intentionally changed. > Since there is no user.js at this time for seamonkey on my system, which > sub-directory should the user.js file go in? Same directory containing prefs.js. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Linux system requirements translation please?
Felix Miata composed on 2019-02-09 21:03 (UTC-0500): > https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements lists these: > GTK+ 3.4 or higher > GLib 2.22 or higher > Pango 1.14 or higher > X.Org 1.0 or higher (Recommended: 1.7 or higher) > libstdc++ 4.6.1 or higher > NetworkManager 0.7 or higher > DBus 1.0 or higher > GNOME 2.16 or higher > Can someone translate the above names into the actual package names used by > the most popular distros? > Current problem on bionic: > XPCOMGLueLoad error for file ...libxpcom.so > couldn't load XPCOM > Google is not giving up useful responses, same as almost every time I install > a new distro instead > of just upgrading. :-( On Tubuntu on Kaby Lake I got it to work with some lib*dbus* package as I was falling asleep last night. On Buster on Kaby Lake it's apparently hopeless. On Stretch on 965P, gtk-3-0 was missing but it now works. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Linux system requirements translation please?
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements lists these: GTK+ 3.4 or higher GLib 2.22 or higher Pango 1.14 or higher X.Org 1.0 or higher (Recommended: 1.7 or higher) libstdc++ 4.6.1 or higher NetworkManager 0.7 or higher DBus 1.0 or higher GNOME 2.16 or higher Can someone translate the above names into the actual package names used by the most popular distros? Current problem on bionic: XPCOMGLueLoad error for file ...libxpcom.so couldn't load XPCOM Google is not giving up useful responses, same as almost every time I install a new distro instead of just upgrading. :-( -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Stopping FoxNews Videos ?
Ray_Net composed on 2019-01-24 08:50 (UTC+0100): > Mason83 wrote on 24-01-19 08:14: >> media.autoplay.enabled = false > I have tested this option .. the side effect is that: > When on certain sites I try to start a video > Impossible - the > video would not start until I put: > media-autoplay.enable = true. I'm on Linux and using NoScript. Once I've hit the play/pause button the correct number of times it plays or pauses, but it must be hit at least once before play is possible. I don't remember how many times is required. I just keep clicking until I get the desired result. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Self consistency of Linux install instructions?
Richard Owlett composed on 2018-11-23 07:33 (UTC-0600): > Reference: > [https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux] > I date back to using Netscape 4.? on Windows. > I've used SeaMonkey on 32 bit Debian since Squeeze. > [The less said about how I installed it the better ;] > Having acquired some software only available in 64 bit I'm doing a fresh > install of Debian Stable. > I wish to install the Linux/x86_64 version of SeaMonkey in such a manner > that the installation will be _indistinguishable_ from what it would be > *IF A STANDARD .DEB PACKAGE WAS AVAILABLE* . https://wiki.debian.org/Seamonkey doesn't do it for you? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: imdb.com: images displaying or not
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2018-10-19 09:40 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Opening any https://www.imdb.com/ page (e.g. >> <https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001718/>) using >> gtk3-built >> UA ID: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >> SeaMonkey/2.49.4; Build ID: >> 20180711183816 >> from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.4/linux-x86_64/en-US/ >> no images display except for a (full page) background image. >> Using any same URL from imdb using gtk2-built 2.49.4-1.22 >> UA ID: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >> SeaMonkey/2.49.4; Build ID: >> 2018021500 >> from ttp://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ >> all images of any kind display. >> This is using openSUSE 42.3 with the exact same profile (with CZ, but not >> email) for either, and >> startup commands: >> seamonkey -no-remote -P profilename (for the rpm version in >> /usr/bin/seamonkey) >> /path/to/seamonkey -no-remote -P profilename (for mozilla.org version) >> This is with no user CSS, and these extensions: >> ChatZilla0.9.93 true >> Copy As Plain Text 1.0.9.1-signed true >> DOM Inspector2.0.17.0true >> MyDirListing 0.1.201702150300true >> PDF Viewer 1.5.336 true >> Preserve Download Modification Timestamp 2011.03.21.22.1-signed.1-signed >> true >> Old Default Image Style 3.0.6.1-signed.1-signed false >> With another profile, which includes email but not CZ, with NoScript >> forbidding scripts, and >> user CSS, all images load. >> I'm not sure when this started happening, maybe as much as a month ago. I >> also tried >> mozilla.org's 2.49.3, which misbehaves same as 2.49.4 from mozilla.org. I'm >> not aware of any >> other differences between the openSUSE and mozilla.org builds. >> Replacing gtk3-branding-openSUSE with gtk3-branding-upstream, and >> substituting UA string >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >> Firefox/52.0 did not help. >> Mozilla.org's Firefox ESR 52.9 also displays all images. >> What could cause this inexplicable behavioral difference? > Fine here in CentOS 7 vm > https://imgur.com/a/RWXsU16 > You can try Bills build: > http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/ > Basically has all the backports so far done and a few private wip fixes from > me. Runs, but no help with the problem. :-( Could there be some GTK3-related thing I need but don't have installed? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
imdb.com: images displaying or not
Opening any https://www.imdb.com/ page (e.g. <https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001718/>) using gtk3-built UA ID: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4; Build ID: 20180711183816 from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.4/linux-x86_64/en-US/ no images display except for a (full page) background image. Using any same URL from imdb using gtk2-built 2.49.4-1.22 UA ID: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4; Build ID: 2018021500 from ttp://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ all images of any kind display. This is using openSUSE 42.3 with the exact same profile (with CZ, but not email) for either, and startup commands: seamonkey -no-remote -P profilename (for the rpm version in /usr/bin/seamonkey) /path/to/seamonkey -no-remote -P profilename (for mozilla.org version) This is with no user CSS, and these extensions: ChatZilla 0.9.93 true Copy As Plain Text 1.0.9.1-signed true DOM Inspector 2.0.17.0true MyDirListing0.1.201702150300true PDF Viewer 1.5.336 true Preserve Download Modification Timestamp2011.03.21.22.1-signed.1-signed true Old Default Image Style 3.0.6.1-signed.1-signed false With another profile, which includes email but not CZ, with NoScript forbidding scripts, and user CSS, all images load. I'm not sure when this started happening, maybe as much as a month ago. I also tried mozilla.org's 2.49.3, which misbehaves same as 2.49.4 from mozilla.org. I'm not aware of any other differences between the openSUSE and mozilla.org builds. Replacing gtk3-branding-openSUSE with gtk3-branding-upstream, and substituting UA string Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 did not help. Mozilla.org's Firefox ESR 52.9 also displays all images. What could cause this inexplicable behavioral difference? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4
no...@nonospam.org composed on 2018-09-02 12:07 (UTC-0500): > Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced > to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed > in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the > search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every > computer I tried it on. > Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I > haven't seen this on any other website. > Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any > ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks! If you move the box up, making it wider, does the 19 character limit remain? http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/sm2-1b3.jpg No search box problems here (also no FF UA advertising): Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4; -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks
Chris Ilias composed on 2018-09-12 11:01 (UTC-0400): > Andy K wrote: >> Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks? >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnk2sy7q3l845 ... s.png?dl=0 > Try the instructions in the following article, and see if it still > works: <http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/BookmarkLabelStyle>. Normal here (no userChrome.css): http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ciliasBMcss0-144c.png Mousetype resulting from using your example code in userChrome.css: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ciliasBMcss1-144c.png With your style line omitted, with fonts-size x-small instead of 11px: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ciliasBMcss-xsmall-144c.png With 13pt font-size instead of x-small: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ciliasBMcss-13pt-144c.png 11px is virtually illegible here, same as anywhere with significantly above average display density. Some mention of this on that URL, or a different or additional example, might prove more productive. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how do I do a screen shot
Smiles composed on 2018-09-10 07:24 (UTC-0400): > I have to do two short note for a young man with CP but when I select > the view menu I can not take a screen shot of the options > any suggestions please Use a time delay with the screen shooter? I use KSnapshot. http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/smViewMenu.png -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A good (free) File Search program ?
DoctorBill composed on 2018-06-28 14:53 (UTC-0700): > I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" ! Garbage ! Klunky and Crude. > > I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ? > > I would appreciate any suggestions. Search function built into any OFM. The one I use: FC/W http://silk.apana.org.au/fc.html -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Manual installation of 2.49.3
Ray Davison composed on 2018-06-16 19:26 (UTC-0700): > I treat the app, the profile and email as three separate things. Each > is in it's own tree, not connected to the others, but the app points to > the profile and the profile points to the mail. Each then is > individually controlled. > My mail files began life in Netscape, and have never been "lost". Impressive history, similar to mine. I currently have 25 directories in the directory hosting all my profiles. If you keep pressing it long enough, eventually a demon from Firefox devolution will slither in with insufficient warning and bite you. There was a rather recent change (post-2.46 IIRC) in some file format somewhere in each profile that would make going back to some not too old version require restoration of at least one file from backup, or worse. Better to only move up, not back, unless your backup system is well maintained, or you know exactly which file(s) are impacted and proceed accordingly. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to set default reply behavior
Jeffrey Needle composed on 2018-05-14 12:50 (UTC-0700): > Reply All, but that sends two copies to the original poster. Is there a way > to set the default behavior to Send to List? It's easy enough, though I would not characterize it as "default": http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/replytolistSM2493.png -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file
Galen Thurber composed on 2018-04-30 07:38 (UTC-0700): > ./seamonkey > XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/west/seamonkey/libmozgtk.so: > libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > Couldn't load XPCOM. > I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 LTS 64bit > gtk3 is installed > Any ideas? Is this your first attempt to use SeaMonkey? Where did you get it from, mozilla.org? Is it the 64 bit version? 14.04 didn't ship with GTK3 originally, so you may need to install a newer version from backports. That error message is a common one in web searches. Maybe <http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40=3005417> applies to you. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey
Ant via support-seamonkey composed on 2018-04-15 22:47 (UTC-0700): > Well, unsupported doesn't always mean blocked. Also, what about Firefox > ESR versions? :/ Same moronic limitation with FF ESR52, but general.useragent.override.usps.com containing: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows > NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0"); or similar showing a sufficiently newer than 52.0 version works. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey
Ed Mullen composed on 2018-04-15 11:16 (UTC-0400):
> Add this to your prefs.js file with SM closed:
> user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
> NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");
> That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which
> is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.
Actual UA:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.2
Using for general.useragent.override.usps.com:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0
or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0
and even after deleting cookies I still see:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated browsers. To
continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read more...
Until I click the read more link and see:
Good news — your browser is up to date.
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Re: prefs.js is not for user manipulation
WaltS48 composed on 2018-03-30 16:12 (UTC-0400): > I recenty edited a Thunderbird prefs.js file, not being 50% certain what > I was doing. It worked! By all means, never follow manufacturer's instructions. You wouldn't want to miss any opportunity to dig yourself into a hole you can't get out of. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: prefs.js is not for user manipulation (was: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!)
Ed Mullen composed on 2018-03-30 11:32 (UTC-0400):
> You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to
> chase.com. Add this to your prefs.js:
> user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
> NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");
Never add anything to prefs.js if you're not 200% certain you know what you are
doing and how to undo the damage from a mistake. Either include it in user.js,
or include via about:config. User.js is an optional file that SM will only read,
never write.
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Re: scrambled columns in sending e-mails
Mort Linder composed on 2018-03-18 12:54 (UTC-0400): > I have a recurring problem. type up an e-mail with neat vertical > columns, and the recipient (and my SENT box) gets scrambled results, > making it difficult or impossible to properly read the e-mail. > How can I send out e-mails that retain my columnar structure? You are composing email in plain text format, which uses monospaced fonts. Your readers are reading proportional fonts. Various ways to possibly solve the problem include: 1-Direct your readers set their email readers to read using monospace fonts. 2-Compose using rich text (HTML) format (to induce use of monospace fonts). 3-Include by itself on the first line of your message, and on the last line of your message. 4-have your readers use a different email reader. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reorganizing bookmarks - HOW?
n...@lists.mozilla.org composed on 2017-12-30 18:51 (UTC+1300): > You want to search the bookmarks for a specific bookmark and, > having found it, immediately move it elsewhere in the bookmarks > hierarchy. Ids that right? > If so, it can't be done. That behavior frustrated me for over a decade before thinking outside the box rather recently. Search for the bookmark. Cut or copy from the undisclosed location. Paste where you want it to be. If that doesn't work the way you expect, search, open the found, create new from the found, then copy or move from "Recently bookmarked" to a suitable folder. Keyboard might work better alone or in conjunction with DND. I DND very infrequently, more often by accident than by intent, requiring ESC key, or undo from menu. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonky Mail
Hattie Harris composed on 2017-12-28 19:00 (UTC-0600):
> Is there any way to control the size of the header section?
> Getting hard to see.
> Control _/+ only controls the opened messages.
Try putting
#msgHeaderView {font-size: larger !important}
in /chrome/userChrome.css. If it doesn't exist, create it with
file manager and any plain text editor. font-size can be any CSS size you
choose, e.g. 12pt, 18px, 4mm, .4in, smaller, medium, etc. The default you find
hard to see now is likely 13px.
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.
Mozilla User composed on 2017-12-18 23:00 (UTC-0500): > I've got to switch to a new browser No one is forced to use a single browser. SM remains my primary, having taken over from Mozilla Suite, which in turn took over from Netscape 4, and prior, on my primary PC, but on it I have two different constantly used SM profiles, using different SM versions, several Firefox profiles, 3 in constant use, each using a different FF version, Konqueror, and very rarely used, Chromium & Qupzilla. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46
Frog composed on 2017-12-12 01:17 (UTC-0500): > My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she had > just received on our computer. I thought to myself that somehow the > "leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the Preferences. > I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was properly set. > Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a good > house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP. > Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message? I don't think so, unless disk space is exhausted where inbox lives. > Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from Verizon > to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem? I have to think it could well be related. Many individual spams are getting awfully big. AOL's inbox space might not be big enough to hold messages for the specified length of time. If she's leaving messages on server for 30 days, try cutting back to 10 or 14. Check with AOL if inbox size can be increased. If none are being left on server yet AOL inbox is full, something must be wrong either with SM or AOL. I have two POP mail accounts, one set to leave on server 11 days, the other 25. The one set to 11 is using about 25MB. The one set to 25 is only using about 5MB, but I just reduced it from around 37MB by deleting all emails 3 digits large, which were running e.g. 159, 164, 241 & 316 KB. How often does she compact folders? I do it daily. If she never does, maybe doing it is overdue, especially if triple digit spams have been routinely reaching it. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: The case of the invisible check boxes
David H. Durgee composed on 2017-12-07 13:11 (UTC-0500): > Problem is now solved. Someone over on mint forums pointed me to the > theme settings that were working for him and I tried changing my theme > settings to match his. The problem went away. In particular changing > the setting for controls in the theme is where the problem was. So if > you are seeing this problem try changing yours. <https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=208=258926=35808b17554f61029a468f0a9b72afae> -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: The case of the invisible check boxes
David H. Durgee composed on 2017-12-06 21:13 (UTC-0500): > I just thought of one other test, so I opened the test page in Firefox > 57.0.1 here and I see the exact same behavior! That may give me another > place to check, as there are more Firefox users that SeaMonkey. > Is there a newsgroup for Firefox support? That would probably be the > easiest way to see. news:mozilla.support.firefox irc://moznet/#firefox http://kb.mozillazine.org/Knowledge_Base -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: The case of the invisible check boxes
David H. Durgee composed on 2017-12-06 14:32 (UTC-0500): > I do have a GTK3 customization file of my own to deal with the missing > scroll steppers as you do. Is there an override to add here as well > that will address the invisible checkbox/radio button problem? Ultimately that could be a place for a solution, but not the only place, nor the ideal place. Another possibility would be your profile's chrome/userChrome.css file, which you probably do not have, since by default it does not exist. Are you using either of the built-in SM themes, default classic or modern, and tried the other? > Perhaps someone who knows GTK3 customization can solve this for me. That would be the ideal magic, but finding such a person with the interest to do so is another matter. Things I would try first if I was using Mint 18.2 with Cinnamon: 1-upgrade to 18.3 2-add Mate to see if the problem exists there also 3-if it does not, go back to Cinnamon and see if something Mate added solved it 4-if still a problem in Cinnamon, try yet another DE, e.g. KDE or XFCE 5-repeat 3 6-if still a problem in Cinnamon, search and/or ask in a Cinnamon or Mint users forum, e.g. https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-mint-84/ or https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=208 Absent finding someone or some group who can help with CSS customizaton, either using ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css or profile's chrome/userChrome.css, you might try DIY with Domi (SM's Tools -> Web Development ->). The highlight in the left pane of http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/sm2491domi-samp.gif shows on the right side the CSS rules being applied to that element, and you can see btn-color is being inherited. The hard part is figuring out what overriding rule(s) is/are required to ensure visible colors get inherited. That's why the much better method is finding someone who understands GTK3 theming who can ID and suggest a solution to the root problem, bad or missing theming. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: The case of the invisible check boxes
David H. Durgee composed on 2017-12-06 10:54 (UTC-0500): > David H. Durgee wrote: >> David H. Durgee wrote: >>> Cruz, Jaime wrote: >>>> David H. Durgee wrote: >>>>> Richard Owlett wrote: >>>>>> David H. Durgee wrote: >>>>>>> I took a look around to find a public page exhibiting the problem and >>>>>>> found this one: >>>>>>> http://toolsqa.com/automation-practice-form/ >>>>>>> This form exhibits the problem at the line labelled "Profession" where >>>>>>> there are invisible check boxes that I can tick for both choices. >>>>>>> This form also demonstrates that I have a similar problem with radio >>>>>>> buttons. The line labelled "Sex" has invisible radio buttons for its >>>>>>> choices. >>>>>>> I hope this demonstrates it for you as well. >>>>>>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: There is a problem with dropmarkers and >>>>>>>> gtk3. Width is only 1 pixel. Can usually be seen in the location bar >>>>>>>> with the history drop down menu. >>>>>>>> Not aware of any problems with checkboxes but I can test it if you >>>>>>>> find a public form with this problem. >>>>>>>> David H. Durgee wrote on 2017-12-06 07:29 (UTC-0500): >>>>>>>>> I am encountering a new problem here with SM 2.49.1 on Linux Mint >>>>>>>>> 18.2 x64 that may be a bug. I am finding cases where a form is being >>>>>>>>> presented using check boxes and they are invisible! An example of >>>>>>>>> this is the Medicare plan search page. When the results are ready >>>>>>>>> for presentation you are expected to check off boxes for the >>>>>>>>> alternatives you want to see. >>>>>>>>> I have been able to work around this in the case where I know a check >>>>>>>>> box is there even if I can't see it, as I can still check it and at >>>>>>>>> that point the box becomes visible. Where this is a problem is when >>>>>>>>> the form does not make it obvious that a check box is present. >>>>>>>>> Is anyone else seeing this? Is there a new setting somewhere I can >>>>>>>>> set? >>>>>> I see no problems. OS is Debian 9.1 with MATE desktop on a Lenovo T510 >>>>>> with >>>>>> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 >>>>>> Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48 >>>>>> Build identifier: 20170706221455 >>>> And to further muddy the waters, running 2.49.1 here on Ubuntu Trusty >>>> 16.04.3 and the check boxes and radio buttons showed up just fine... >>> Interesting. That would appear to point to either a theme problem or >>> a profile problem. I am using the little monkey 2.0.27 theme here. I >>> will try the page with the default themes and see if the problem is >>> there or not. >> Curiouser and curiouser, I tried this test URL on SM 2.49.1 on another >> system with the little monkey theme and THERE I see the boxes and radio >> buttons. So it appears specific to this instance of the browser. I am >> going to try a browser restart and see if that changes anything. > Restart made no difference. I am assuming at this point it is a profile > setting that is causing it. As Frank alluded, this is GTK3-related. 2.48 was built with GTK2. 2.49.1 is built with GTK3. Mint/Cinnamon (David) users seem to have insufficient GTK3 support, while Mate (Richard), whatever DE Ubuntu users are using now (Jaime), and Gnome (home of GTK, obviously) users have the needed GTK3 support. I don't have the invisible checkbox/radio button problem here in KDE3, but I do have some GTK3 customizations (~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css due to otherwise too narrow scrollbars and absent scroll buttons), and the following GTK3 packages in openSUSE: PackageKit-gtk3-module-1.1.3-4.4.x86_64 gtk3-branding-openSUSE-42.1-6.1.noarch gtk3-data-3.20.10-9.2.noarch gtk3-metatheme-adwaita-3.20.2-3.3.noarch gtk3-tools-3.20.10-9.2.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk3-0-0.30-14.3.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk3-module-0.30-14.3.x86_64 libgtk-3-0-3.20.10-9.2.x86_64 libgtkmm-3_0-1-3.20.1-3.3.x86_64 libjavascriptcoregtk-3_0-0-2.4.11-4.26.x86_64 libwebkitgtk-3_0-0-2.4.11-4.26.x86_64 metatheme-adwaita-common-3.20.2-3.3.noarch -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where to store my profile??
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2017-12-03 13:47 (UTC+0100): > I am just doing some fixes for 2.55+ in a vm and there at least it seems to > be > a bit stubborn. If you create and select the folder your profile location > will > be overwritten. But if you create the folder and then change the profile name > it works. Was able to create a profile D:\profiled\u5kls6wt.UserD1 and it > shows in about:support . > Don't think it is different in 2.49.1. This code hasn't been changed for > years > I think. I've used --ProfileManager on initial startup and rejected the default name and location for at least a decade, always creating a directory first to contain profiles where I want them, then pointing to that location and typing in a suitable profile name when the profile manager opens. I've not used the profile manager to add an additional a profile in at least as long. Once profiles.ini exists, it's simple to edit it, to add a profile, or relocate one, or change the name of one. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Starting SM2.49.1 fails
gNeandr composed on 2017-11-23 00:41 (UTC+0100): > Updating Seamonkey from previous installation and also restart a fresh > install gives: > > $ ./SM2.49.1/seamonkey -p > > XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /opt/SM2.49.1/libmozgtk.so: > > libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > This is on Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa / Kernel: 3.19.0-32-generic x86_64 (64 bit) > How to fix this? For those getting SeaMonkey from mozilla.org, prior versions only required gtk2, while 2.49.1 requires gtk3, which you may never have needed before now. 'sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-0' may be all you need to do. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey did it again.
Richard Owlett composed on 2017-11-10 06:15 (UTC-0600): > I've been using the Linux flavor of SeaMonkey since 2014 without problems. I wish I could say that. Ever since the Toggle Word Wrap extension quit working, text editing and plain text email composition has been an abomination, and since 2.48, tabs with previously opened LAN files will not restore on restart or via back or forward buttons. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 64-bit disadvantages (was: Opening a link from ano...)
Felix Miata composed on 2017-10-24 14:09 (UTC-0400): > Richard Owlett composed on 2017-10-20 08:24 (UTC-0500): >> ...I've seen no advantage in switching to 64 bit even >> though my machines have 64 bit processors. > It stops people from being incredulous and asking you why you're a luddite. > :-) > 64bit has several disadvantages I can think of: > 1-poorly suited to limited RAM environments (1GB or less) > 2-generally more to download at updates time > 3-more storage space consumed > 4-needs additional software to enable running legacy apps unavailable for > 64bit > 5-reduces developer pool required to keep perfectly good old hardware > functional > 6-causes support for important apps to die (e.g. Firefox post-ESR requires > Rust) Dunno how I forgot about this serious irritant: 7-kernels and initrds can take up to 13+ minutes to load before init can start, though 3-5 minutes is much more common than more than 5. Most delays are 10 or fewer seconds, but certainly enough to notice compared to 32 bit. 32 bit kernels & initrds load too fast to measure any attributable delay. Reason(s) for the 64 bit delays have so far proven elusive, and been limited to apparently random kernels on several particular cross-distro installations on several particular hosts. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening a link from another application will result in empty new window
Richard Owlett composed on 2017-10-20 08:24 (UTC-0500): > ...I've seen no advantage in switching to 64 bit even > though my machines have 64 bit processors. It stops people from being incredulous and asking you why you're a luddite. :-) 64bit has several disadvantages I can think of: 1-poorly suited to limited RAM environments (1GB or less) 2-generally more to download at updates time 3-more storage space consumed 4-needs additional software to enable running legacy apps unavailable for 64bit 5-reduces developer pool required to keep perfectly good old hardware functional 6-causes support for important apps to die (e.g. Firefox post-ESR requires Rust) -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changing default setting under browser's "View->Use Style"
Richard Owlett composed on 2017-10-14 23:41 (UTC-0500):
> Felix Miata wrote:
>> Richard, you might wish to try an alternative to using style none on
>> Wikipedia.
>> I've attached my personally created user CSS for Wikipedia. You could place
>> it
>> in your profile's chrome directory (create if it does not already exist), and
>> call it through userContent.css (create if it does not already exist, append
>> to
>> it if it does) in that same directory with this line:
>> @import url("wikipedia.css");
>> Restart required to take effect. Simply delete those files to eliminate their
>> effects.
> Your attachment didn't come thru. Does this group allow attachments?
> Please email me the attachment. Thank you.
I know better, but something had me thinking this was going to the debian-user
mailing list. :-p
Here it is for any and all interested:
http://fm.no-ip.com/Share/wikipedia.css
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Re: Changing default setting under browser's "View->Use Style"
David E. Ross composed on 2017-10-14 13:26 (UTC-0700):
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> The standard is "View->Use Style->Default Style" which displays the page
>> as author intended.
>> I find that many pages are *MUCH EASIER* to use if "View->Use
>> Style->None" is selected. e.g. The content of any page in
>> https://en.wikipedia.org is more readable if the body text uses all
>> available display width.
>> Can the default be changed to "None"?
>> Can it be altered on a specific profile?
> Unfortunately, it appears that Use Style is not controlled by a
> preference variable.
What use style none does is disable all CSS that is not internal to SeaMonkey.
That means author styles as well as any contained in your profile's chrome
directory (if any). Toggling that menu selection apparently causes a rather
complicated process.
cf. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208641
> I installed the PrefBar extension for many other features. I then
> downloaded and imported into PrefBar the CSS Checkbox from
> <http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#togglecss>.
Richard, you might wish to try an alternative to using style none on Wikipedia.
I've attached my personally created user CSS for Wikipedia. You could place it
in your profile's chrome directory (create if it does not already exist), and
call it through userContent.css (create if it does not already exist, append to
it if it does) in that same directory with this line:
@import url("wikipedia.css");
Restart required to take effect. Simply delete those files to eliminate their
effects.
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Re: Can't change font of plain text message view
nk30...@vodafonemail.de composed on 2017-10-07 12:36 (UTC+0200): > I am using SeaMonkey 2.48 on Windows and I have set "View Message Body > As" to "Plain Text". Unfortunately whatever font I select for Monospace > in Preferences/Appearance/Fonts is ignored in the message display window > for e-mails. Interestingly newsgroups and e-mail composition show the > correct font. What am I doing wrong? Generally, whatever "font" you select is insufficient. The fontS need to be set for each of the locales that show up in your inbox, e.g. "Fonts for": western, unicode, central european, cyrillic, user defined, etc. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey mail - can't change fonts. Seamonkey 2.46 for Mac
ILJA SHEBALIN composed on 2017-08-27 01:20 (UTC+0300): > It seems screenshots get removed automatically You can post it to https://pastebin.mozilla.org/ or your personal web space or any other pastebin, then post the link here. Mailing list archives don't need binary attachments that become obsolete shortly after creation, and bloat mailing list subscriber's email accounts. Most newsgroups whose purpose is not sharing binaries reject binary attachments. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: confirmation: [Bug 1378249] - New message flag (green arrow) does not appear
Rainer Bielefeld composed on 2017-08-11 06:29 (UTC+0200): > anybody here who also observed the problem described in > <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1378249>? Cannot reproduce, all is as expected here with about 200 incoming messages per day in KDE3 with Mozilla.org's GTK2 UA ID: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.48; Build ID: 20170706221156 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Troubleshooting section of relnotes
I suggest expanded description of use of -safe-mode in Linux, essentially as follows: --- old 2017-07-31 02:45:13.0 -0400 +++ new 2017-07-31 23:16:29.478433887 -0400 @@ -327,9 +327,10 @@ appearance, degraded performance, etc, you may be suffering from Extension or Theme trouble. Restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode. On Windows, start using the "Safe Mode" -shortcut created in your Start menu or by running -seamonkey.exe -safe-mode. On Linux, start with -./seamonkey -safe-mode and on MacOSX, run: +shortcut created in your Start menu or by running seamonkey.exe -safe-mode. +On Linux, start with /path-to-seamonkey/seamonkey -safe-mode or first +change to the SeaMonkey installation directory and start with ./seamonkey -safe-mode, +and on MacOSX, run: cd /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/ ./seamonkey-bin -safe-mode WDYT? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 release
EE composed on 2017-07-22 10:57 (UTC-0700): > I got the SeaMonkey 2.48 release version yesterday from the Mozilla FTP > site. It is not yet on the SeaMonkey project release page. Why? Could it be because https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/ lacks Win64? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google not displaying
EE composed on 2017-07-21 11:48 (UTC-0700): > Jonathan N. Little wrote: >> Anyone else tired of the sloppy development practice of user agent >> sniffing over object detection? > Yes, but at least it is less frequent than it used to be. I think not. Instead of broken pages, empty pages are served instead. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Speed Problems
Paul B. Gallagher composed on 2017-07-11 23:18 (UTC-0400): > Hank wrote: >> I use http://speedtest.xfinity.com/ and it works. If I add www. before >> speedtest it is blocked. > I see that your user agent does not contain a reference to SeaMonkey: > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 > Firefox/64.0 > Anyone here not using or spoofing Firefox able to get through, or is > that the key? Maybe it doesn't like the 64.0 lie. Works fine with Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1; Build ID: 20170701204423 Speed Results Download Speed 12.61 Mbps Upload Speed 0.91 Mbps Latency 29 ms Protocol IPv4 Host Augusta, GA -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Speed Problems
meagain composed on 2017-07-10 11:28 (UTC-0400): > Ed Mullen wrote: >> If you have a broadband connection there is little benefit to using a >> browser cache. Disable it. > Interesting and clearly true, but I had never heard that recommendation > previously. Not clear to me. Where's the proof? Surely this must depend on: 1-broadband speed (some are many times faster than others) 2-whether one habitually restores previous session at startup 3-if restoring, number of tabs open, and depth of each 4-if restoring, number of tabs in which JS is enabled 5-if restoring, number of tabs in which content is no-cache 6-local storage speed (some is magnitudes faster than the fastest broadband) -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2017-06-29 08:25 (UTC+0200): > This seems to be caused by a core bug but I can't access it because it > is security relevant so not sure if it will be fixed by upgrading to the > upcoming 2.48. > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230817 is a duplicate of > the bug. > You can upgrade to Adrians unofficial 2.49.1 which will be the next > version after 2.48: > https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/ [there should be a blank line above this line] No 2.49* there, only 2.50 Did you mean? https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-esr-windows32/ > If you do please backup your profile in case you want to get back to > 2.46 or 2.48. When it finally arrives the official 2.491 will install > over Adrians fine without the need to do a restore before. > FRG-- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: crash at Seamonkey start / helper app missing?
Abigoven Vandrhall composed on 2017-06-28 10:08 (UTC-0700): > Hello, i am using Seamonkey 2.46 in openSUSE Linux 13.1.x64. > Since some days SM crashes with this message: > (seamonkey:2626): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property > GnomeProgram::sm-connect after class was initialised > (seamonkey:2626): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property > GnomeProgram::show-crash-dialog after class was initialised > (seamonkey:2626): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property > GnomeProgram::display after class was initialised > (seamonkey:2626): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property > GnomeProgram::default-icon after class was initialised > This happens in normal and in safe mode. > The difference is: sm continues in safe mode but in normal mode it does quit > w/o any further comment. > In safe mode i can open the prefernces dialog and can choose every option > from left side except one: Helper Applications. > Then sm quits w/o any comment. > Where does sm store the information about the helper apps? > Can i delete their something to have fresh new settings there? In your profile directory: mimetypes.rdf. You can delete it while SM is closed, and a new one will be created automatically on startup. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/How_Mozilla_determines_MIME_Types > Because of this behaviour appears since some days and before everything > worked fine, i guess there is any helper application missing(?) But how can > i find which one? .rdf files can become corrupted. Deleting any corrupted can solve various problems. > I have not the permissions to update to a higher Linux distribution like > 42.3, so i cannot update to a higher sm version than 2.46. Tipps like "Do an > update!" won't help me. 13.1 has been out of support more than 6 months. You need to get permission to upgrade. Known security risks have arisen since support ended. Something to try if deleting mimetypes.rdf does not help would be switching to another theme, from modern to default or vice versa, in Apply Theme in the View menu. Another would be logging into some other DE. If you are using Gnome, try IceWM, XFCE or Plasma. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wish to default to "View->Use Style->None"
Richard Owlett composed on 2017-06-24 10:50 (UTC-0500): > David E. Ross wrote: >> Richard Owlett wrote: >>> A large number of sites I visit chose annoying features in their CSS. >>> The usual problems is use of too many columns and boxes aimed at letting >>> a new user know about what features the site offers. >>> I find the SeaMonkey default of "View->Use Style->Default Style" counter >>> productive. >>> I searched about:config to no avail. >>> Suggestions? >> It is not controlled by a preference variable. I suggest you get the >> PrefBar extension from >> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/> and install >> it in SeaMonkey. Then import into PrefBar the CSS Checkbox from >> <http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#togglecss>. >> Note: The move by Mozilla to Webextensions will likely mean none of >> this will work in some future version of SeaMonkey. > I've avoided add-ons/add-ins/extensions since the days of Netscape. > I don't think this is the time to start > I looked at <http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#togglecss>. > It implies to me that there is a configuration file I could tweak if I > had the time to do the research. I was hoping for adding a line to user.js . Oh were it only so simple. Over time, spec writers and developers have been giving browsers increasingly effective power to overpower users. Extensions are the only practical way to deal with the majority of such power. CSS controls only appearance. Scripts control most actions, "responsive design" CSS being the primary action exception. Other than mousetype, gray text, other hard to use colors, and content that rearranges itself when you resize a window that are imposed by CSS, actions (scripts) are responsible for most annoyances. CSS is the hardest user abuse to overcome without help from any extension. The extension NoScript disables scripts by default, and permits enabling per site either per session or indefinitely. I've been using it in SeaMonkey too long to remember. Ad blocking doesn't require a script, though the AdBlock extension is popular. The more egregious ad domains can be redirected to the bit bucket through use of your /etc/hosts file. I've been using it since before the name SeaMonkey replaced Mozilla Suite, and before Firefox 1.0. Many ads can be blocked using user CSS according to the image sizes they commonly use. http://fm.no-ip.com/Css/Share/adblock.css can be used as a starting point if you can't find better, called by importing via chrome/userContent.css in your SM profile. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Diverge From T-bird
rickman composed on 2017-06-09 18:15 (UTC-0400): > Richmond wrote: . >> rickman <gnuarm.deletethis...@gmail.com> writes: . >>> For that matter, why did SeaMonkey split off from T-bird? What was the >>> fundamental issue that created a new tool so similar to the old? . >> The way I remember it, Thunderbird (and Firefox) split off from >> Seamonkey. Seamonkey came from Netscape Communicator, which then became >> Mozilla Application Suite. . > So you are saying the split was a long time ago? I didn't realize. I > believe Netscape was a more universal tool with support for newsgroups, > email and web page composition. That's what I used to write my web page a > decade and a half ago. Maybe it's time for an update...? . The name seamonkey originally came from either Netscape Communicator or Netscape before it added "Communicator" to the name. But, Netscape was followed by the Mozilla Suite, the inception of the Mozilla Project. Firebird (later Firefox) and Thunderbird were split off from the Suite. After that split came the renaming of the Mozilla Suite to SeaMonkey. Dates are from the content of 32-bit Linux downloads on archive.mozilla.org. Mozilla Milestone 3 1999-03 Mozilla Suite 0.6 2000-12 Mozilla Suite 1.0 2002-05 Firebird 0.72003-05 Thunderbird 0.1 2003-07 Firefox 0.8 2004-02 Firefox 1.0 2004-11 Thunderbird 1.0 2004-12 SeaMonkey 1.0 2006-01 Mozilla Suite 1.17.13 2006-04 (final) -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort of Bookmarks will not save (remain) SM 2.46 Win's 7
DoctorBill composed on 2017-06-08 18:47 (UTC-0700): . >>>> Bookmarks are in places.sqlite, a database file you can process with the >>>> SQLite Manager extension. Lots of luck!! ... > I am not a greatly knowledgeable user - so please explain the Jargon if > you try to explain > to me what kind of file it is.and what to edit it with. . places.sqlite is a binary database blob (file) of type sqlite. http://sqlitebrowser.org/ is home of an app available to do things with it, but whether you could do any sorting and keep it compatible with SM, or at all, I have no idea. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
interleaved plain text email replies eat newlines
Does anyone know a workaround for this? http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/bnew20170523.png It shows the first blank line as expected, but the next two disappeared. I'm using the 2.48b1 build ID 20170329182716 with mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support true mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed false I think this is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1329724 but only a GTK2 build will work for me, so NAICT, >2.48 is out. Once upon a time I could use Toggle Word Wrap to produce email that respects my linefeed wishes, but it broke several releases back. :-( -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?
Lee composed on 2017-05-26 14:10 (UTC-0400): > - start seamonkey > - delete all your bookmarks > - import your edited bookmarks.html file Doesn't keep them totally away. Using a test profile, I deleted all bookmarks that bookmark manager would permit. Then I closed SM, reenabled automatic import via user.js, restarted, then deleted the three duplicate folders importing always creates, then exported HTML. The result was 671,826 bytes vs. the 531,157 byte result of the stripping script, and the 787,654 bytes of the original export. grep ICON= bookmarks.html | wc -l on the fresh export produced 185. Doing same with the exported file I ran the stripper against produced 311. So it looks like this exercise may ultimately be good for some places.sqlite weight loss, but less than ideal. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?
Lee composed on 2017-05-26 14:10 (UTC-0400):
> Felix wrote:
>> Fresh export with all set as you have except autoExport still has them all,
>> saved html file same size as last time. :-(
> Not really surprising - I think those settings just prevent icons from
> creeping into your bookmarks.
> You're a linux user, so you have vi - correct?
> Try this - hopefully it's just a one-time thing after you have all the
> icon stuph turned off:
> - export your bookmarks
> - exit seamonkey
> - copy the bookmarks.html file somewhere safe
> vi bookmarks.html
> :1,$ s/ ICON_URI="[^"]*"//
> :1,$ s/ ICON="data:[^"]*"//
> :wq
> - start seamonkey
> - delete all your bookmarks
> - import your edited bookmarks.html file
> I found an old bookmarks file in my backups and it had two types of
> icon references:
> ICON_URI="http://whatever;
> and
> ICON="data:image/png;base64,whatever"
> I don't remember if vi pattern matching is greedy or no, so instead of
> matching on
> ".*" which could match way more than you want, match on
> "[^"]*"
> which matches everything up to a "
> I'm on windoze & used the windows version of vim - ymmv
Thanks much! :-D I'm close to worthless working with wildcards and special
characters, but you enabled me to come up with this mini-script:
sed 's/ ICON_URI="[^"]*"//g' $1 > $2
sed 's/ ICON="data:[^"]*"//g' $2 > $3
The result was a 32.6% total reduction, from 787,654 to 531,157. The
intermediary step size was 759,359, -3.6%.
Your reply arrived when I was almost done doing it partially via script,
partially via text editor, starting with:
sed 's/ ICON_URI=/\n ICON_URI=/g' $1 >> $2
That put each data item along with a relatively short appending string on a new
line, enabling me to quickly goto each such line, use END then cursor left to >,
hit enter, Ctrl-Y, then BS to rejoin the useful pieces of the DT item. I don't
know how long I spent, but I proceeded to finish before trying your method to
see what the difference might come out to. Mine was 526,235, 33.2% reduction,
but I took the liberty of deleting at least one duplicate DT in that process.
Deleting bookmarks then importing remains todo. I have multiple other profiles,
more than one of which need them imported too. I did already import into one FF
ESR 45 profile without doing any deletes first, via
user_pref("browser.places.importBookmarksHTML", true); in user.js. As both FF &
SM have done in the past, Recently Bookmarked and Recent Tags folders got
duplicated.
--
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?
Lee composed on 2017-05-26 10:24 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too tiny to >> present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing overhead. I'd like >> to >> be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form without the bloat favicons >> represent. >> >> Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe? > I can't stand them, so maybe don't allow them in the first place? > alerts.showFavicons false Already was. > browser.chrome.favicons false Already was. > browser.chrome.image_icons.max_size 0 Was 1024. > browser.chrome.load_toolbar_icons 0 Did not exist. > browser.chrome.site_icons false Was true. > and > browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML true I do it manually when desired. Fresh export with all set as you have except autoExport still has them all, saved html file same size as last time. :-( -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?
Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too tiny to present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing overhead. I'd like to be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form without the bloat favicons represent. Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: cannot override address autocomplete in plain text composition
Daniel composed on 2017-05-23 17:34 (UTC+1000): > I've been wondering why Felix is storing the address in the form > <someinsanelylongn...@toolong.net> (note the <> at the ends!). I believe > if he saved the address as somethingelseinsanelylongn...@toolong.net > (note the lack of <>), it would not have the <>. I'm not. <someinsanelylongn...@toolong.net> was a suggestion from Paul. I want no addresses like someinsanelylongn...@toolong.net from a from-address-munged Yahoo mailing list in any address book. When I want to mail to a mailing list I right click a post from said list or use reply to list from menu. Autocompletion is bizarro, putting junk from history in place of what I type as a To address when I'm trying to compose mail that has nothing to do with any mailing list. For now I have autocomplete disabled. I may try again after switching to something newer than 2.46. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: cannot override address autocomplete in plain text composition
Paul B. Gallagher composed on 2017-05-22 02:19 (UTC-0400): > Then don't accept the autocompletion by stopping typing. Keep typing the > desired name or address and ignore SM's suggestions; eventually you'll > get to the point where your typing doesn't match the undesired address > and SM will accept what you're typing. > For example, if you start typing "df" it will match > <dfsee-supp...@yahoogroups.com>, but if you continue with "dfa" it won't > match anymore and you can get on with your life. You still don't understand what is happening. I want a particular email address, period. No angle brackets, no quotes, nothing but the single string required for the SMTP, POP and/or IMAP servers to get it to the appropriate destination. Once I get the email address I want, autocomplete finds a match from addresses collected from Yahoo with all Yahoo's own anti-spam email list "From" field munging, obliterating what I type. I edit the junk away, and autocomplete puts it right back. First below (01) as sent: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/smmail246yahoo01.png All as received: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/smmail246yahoo01.png http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/smmail246yahoo02.png http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/smmail246yahoo03.png http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/smmail246yahoo04.png http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/smmail246yahoo05.png When I try to reply to the received copy of what I originally sent, I get this at the head of the compose port: Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net [eComStation] composed on 2017-05-15 21:17 (UTC-0400): which is not what was originally sent, due to Yahoo's "From" munging. > OK, once again I don't see why you're going to all this trouble to fix > something that isn't wrong. If that's the desired email address, why > bother removing the name associated with it? It *is* wrong if it isn't what I put there intending it to stay there. It *is* wrong to usurp what I type or paste there. I don't ever use auto-correct. I don't need correction. If I don't make a selection from among the auto-complete offerings, it shouldn't be forcing one. > If you really must do that, > keep the angle brackets and SM will accept that, provided you leave the > address field by clicking elsewhere and not by tabbing or hitting Enter: > > <someinsanelylongn...@toolong.net> -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: cannot override address autocomplete in plain text composition
Paul B. Gallagher composed on 2017-05-21 20:07 (UTC-0400): > OK, then I guess I didn't understand the problem. > If you reply to a mailing list post, why do you need to change the > address? Doesn't it go where you want it to? The address gets collected from the mailing list, then at some much later time shows up via autocomplete in a brand new composition totally unrelated to the mailing list, because of a substring from the collected address. > In my experience, once SM autocompletes an address, I can edit it > without difficulty and it leaves my edits alone. But why bother? What > difference will it make in this scenario? It leaves it alone if I keep this autocompletion: someinsanelylongn...@toolong.net <someinsanelylongn...@toolong.net> or substitute siln <someinsanelylongn...@toolong.net> or similar, with or without use of quotes, but it overwrites with the original autocomplete if I try to keep someinsanelylongn...@toolong.net Autocomplete, once it has happened in one particular address box, should make no additional attempt once an address has been allowed to fill the field and the popup list of possible addresses closes, unless the entire field has been emptied (to start over). Likely this behavior needs to be filed as a bug. I looked on BZ for something similar but found nothing. I'm not about to try installing and using TB to see if it applies there, but hate to think about adding more todo to our overloaded supply of SM devs with yet another SM exclusive bug report. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: cannot override address autocomplete in plain text composition
Paul B. Gallagher composed on 2017-05-21 17:41 (UTC-0400) FWIW, I've been using SM mail since Netscape 2, Netscape 4, Mozilla pre-1.0. IOW, never any other email program. And, I use it a lot, hundreds of incoming per day, mostly from mailing lists. > Of course, if SM sees them again in a future message, it'll add them > back to CA again. You can block all address collection by unchecking: > Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Addressing: > [ ] Add email addresses to my: [Collected Addresses] > I don't recommend that, but it's up to you. This is the root of the primary problem point of my post. Deleting from collected is pointless because that's a busy enough mailing list that it's only a matter of a short time until the bad ones get put back. I was hoping for some convenient way to override on an occasional basis, something short of opening prefs or about:config. > You can also tell SM to look/not look in your PAB when autocompleting in > the same dialog at > When addressing messages, look in: > [x] Local Address Books That's what I don't want to have to do. Autocomplete is useful, except when it refuses to accept an override. Sometimes I want an address and only a pure address, no kind of label, name or nick, and no quotes. > As for posting to mailing lists, don't write to individuals. Save the ML > address and write to that: DFSee <dfsee-supp...@yahoogroups.com> (give > it a nickname if you like -- "dfsee" for example, so SM will fill in the > rest). If you don't feed the CA list bad addresses, it won't learn the I don't use any address book for any mailing list. I'm either replying to a post, or creating a new one by right clicking the from or sender address while in a list folder on a post from that list. The only time I need to type a mailing list address is possibly the first time to a new list, but usually I use the mailto link in the welcome message for those. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
cannot override address autocomplete in plain text composition
Linux 2.46 I never compose email except in plain text. mail.enable_autocomplete Most of the time I like having it true. However there are times that I want what I want and it refuses to keep only what I type (without "<" and ">") remaining as-is, insisting on auto-completing to auto-collected idiotic Yahoo munged mailing list addresses I wish could be permanently forgotten, e.g.: Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net [dfsee-support] <dfsee-supp...@yahoogroups.com> and 'Jan van Wijk' ecomstat...@dfsee.com [dfsee-support] <dfsee-supp...@yahoogroups.com> As it's a collected address it will always be returned to history when an email I sent to the list comes as a normal list email, so deleting from history is pointless. I tried adding the addresses manually to address book using empty First, Last and Display, but they get discarded before I get a chance to use them a second time. Does anyone know any workaround? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey
Danny Kile composed on 2017-04-20 11:23 (UTC-0400): > So maybe you can tell me this why do they need to sniff at all? Only because their design methods are broken is there to them an apparent need, and this largely or mostly because of their determination to exercise maximum control over how you see what you see rather than how what you get works or not. > Why do they need to know who's browser is used. So they can justify chastising those who don't use the browsers they test with, or reject allowing them access to their content; an extra way to shoot themselves in their feet. > Make the website work with all browsers, is that not possible? It is possible only when not using incompetent design methods. It's a monkey see, monkey do design heritage. They get taught wrong and don't know any better, and there are none adequately motivated to cause needed educational changes, or changes in the tools they use. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: bajafresh.com feedback form (was: What if all Mozilla browsers would...)
EE composed on 2017-04-20 12:20 (UTC-0700): > I do not even see a form on the contact page, so what use would a submit > button be? I tried with 3 different browsers. Which 3, with which installed extensions? I tried http://www.bajafresh.com/corpfeedback.php with 3 profiles, one Firefox, one SM 2.46 with NoScript, one SM 2.48 without NoScript. Neither SM profile's UA string includes Firefox. FF and 2.48 both produced a complete feedback form with I am not a robot captcha and submit button. 2.46 even with temporarily allow all this page enabled displays nothing of the form below the textarea (comments pane), and with page styles disabled the page displays none of the form at all. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey
Ray_Net composed on 2017-04-18 18:12 (UTC+0200): > Danny Kile wrote: >> I override my UA with: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 >> This resolved the problem thank you to all that replied. To whom did >> you file the complaint with? URL or address would be great. > Therefore SM must use this UA as the default one - THEN WE NEVER > ENCOUNTER PROBLEMS ! OK only for those who don't care that discovery of stupid sniffing is effectively disabled by including Firefox in the UA string and thus is unlikely to be reported to anyone who might do anything to correct it. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2017-04-18 10:00 (UTC+0200): The Mozilla organization as a whole gives a rats a** about SeaMonkey. True. They are only interested in Firefox at this point in time. False. Bugzilla, Rust, Cloud, MarketPlace, Page-Shot and other resource thieves also have interest. :-( At the SeaMonkey 1.0 point in time, Firefox already was (virtually) its only interest. Thankfully a look of great individuals still work there and help out. True. :-D -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: CANNOT get to profile ! @#&^%$@ !
DoctorBill composed on 2017-04-05 01:11 (UTC-0400): Have you set to view 'Hidden Files and Folders'? How do I do that ? http://bfy.tw/B35S https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/14201/windows-show-hidden-files -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Misaligned sent mail. Help, please.
Mort Linder composed on 2017-04-01 15:55 (UTC-0400): Sometimes I carefully craft e-mails in vertical columns, but when sent, they are all jumbled up and the data are co-mingled, often rendering them incoherent. Why does this happen, and how can I correct it? In HTML composition you're normally using variable pitch fonts, which you cannot expect to maintain columnar formatting without using tables or other complexity. Plain text composition should keep your columns the way you want them. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: WYSIWYG printing?
Lee composed on 2017-03-05 22:49 (UTC-0500): save the page, edit the .html file removing any references to media="print" stylesheets, load the saved page, print That may not be sufficient. Individual sheets may be limited to screen media, in which case such limitation may need to be removed to have any CSS at all applied to the locally loaded page. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: WYSIWYG printing?
David E. Ross composed on 2017-03-04 23:08 (UTC-0800): Screen prints can accomplish what you want, but it involves a cludge of a process. The problem is that you only get what is visible within the browser window. Thus, you must print, scroll, print some more, scroll some more, print some more, and so on. In this process, you must save each screen print into an image-processing application and then print it before scrolling to the next section of the Web page. If you have a truly advanced image-processing application, you might be able to stitch together the saved images and then print them all at once as a single large image. Need to stitch together can be reduced by reconfiguring a Linux desktop to use a virtual space much taller than the physical screen (called "panning" using the xrandr utility to make a temporarily taller desktop space), and making the browser window the lesser full screen height or as tall as the page content can consume. How tall is possible depends on hardware, OS version and driver, but could be up to 32k logical px tall, but no less than 2048px tall with any non-ancient gfxchip. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sudden Change To Tiny Font (Solved)
David E. Ross composed on 2017-02-28 22:17 (UTC-0800): On 2/28/2017 5:40 PM, Larry S. wrote: Sounds interesting. How do I open the xpi file that is downloaded (i.e. install the program)? You do not open it. You download it. I download it to disk. Then I open it (File -> Open), same as if opening a locally saved .txt or .html file. Verified this method works same as it did well over a decade ago, on Win10 with SM 2.48, Chatzilla 0.9.93 and Theme Font Size Changer 50.0. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sudden Change To Tiny Font
Larry S. composed on 2017-02-28 10:17 (UTC-0500): Turned on the computer this morning. At first all seemed normal, but when the notice of new e-mails came up it had changed to a tiny type face. Found that the tool bars on the top of the screen, and all e-mail screens, had changed. However, the content of opened messages had not changed, nor had anything else in SM. What the heck happened? Any ideas about the cause or a solution? All ideas gratefully accepted. Using the SM from which you typed this message? Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 Or, is it on a Linux PC that just got some updates? If so, which Linux distro and version, and using which WM or DE? What DPI and screen resolution are reported if you load http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html in SeaMonkey? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plain-text formatting
Ray_Net composed on 2017-01-27 01:07 (UTC+0100): Sometimes I used email to show an existing web page and the expected web page it should be with my modifications - in that case HTML mail is essential ! That's hardly a "most users" use case, or even essential. When I want to do that, I email only a URI, and put the content on my "web site", which is actually the same local location in which I construct the modified page. That way the content only needs to be read if and when the recipient wishes it seen rather than accounting for its space consumed overhead every time an email app opens the folder containing that message. I commit only my own storage space. Recipient commits space only if and when he chooses. When the email destination is a mailing list, your technique takes a many magnitudes bigger total storage and bandwidth consumption toll. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plain-text formatting
Ray_Net composed on 2017-01-25 22:26 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata wrote: Ray_Net composed on 2017-01-25 22:00 (UTC+0100): Why your newspaper is not in plain-text ? What's a newspaper? Use the first link found -> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Newspaper wikipedia It was a joke. Emails aren't newspapers. Newspapers are comprised of many subjects and many pages. Rarely is an email or news post more than a paragraph or three or five. Those text size and font variations newspapers use rarely have applicability in the context of small text bodies. Individual articles in newspapers usually and for good reason use only one size and style. Most HTML email users don't use any rich text features even if and when appropriate, making the HTML markup and CSS styling pure useless bloat. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plain-text formatting
Ray_Net composed on 2017-01-25 22:00 (UTC+0100): Why your newspaper is not in plain-text ? What's a newspaper? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
