Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....
Philip Taylor wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 11/20/13 7:16 AM +0900, Ray_Net wrote: My idea is that it's better to collect votes to see if a new feature needs to be implemented rather than voting for bugs. Therefore there is no need to vote for solving bugs - Bugs must be solved. In fact, my opinion, order of priority is: 1. Security fixes. 2. Bugs correction. 3. Implementing new features. And not the order 1., 3. then 2. Yes, I completely agree with this. I would like to see SM bugs fixed before implementing new features. I also. Philip Taylor The problem is that for SM 3. Implementing new features. and to a large extent any 2. Bugs corrections, (unless they are of bugs introduced by SM), is driven by forces external to SM, i.e, changes to Mozilla, TB, and FF code. This is due to the SM policy decision to track TB and FF in all its' features, following Moz along from release to release. So even if the resource problems went away SM would still have all the same problems. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mouse Wheel Problem 2.22
Larry S. wrote: Just installed SM 2.22, and immediately found that when attempting to scroll down a page the mouse wheel changes the zoom level of the page, rather than scrolling down (or up) the page. Note, in Preferences the choices for Mouse Wheel scrolling to zoom the page ARE NOT checked (and no modifier keys). Also noted: Font size smaller here and there, e.g. the HelpAbout SeaMonkey page. Any suggestions? Larry S. (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22) Wait for release of 2.22.1 or perhaps the latest reversions may take until 2.23 to get repaired. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Thunderbird version equivalences?
Daniel wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I know we advertise Firefox compatibility to fool the idiot webmasters, and I can easily see my Firefox version, so to speak. But for purposes of discussion with colleagues who use Thunderbird, which versions of SeaMonkey correspond (roughly, I know) to which versions of Thunderbird? Is there a table posted somewhere? Thanks. Paul, it always seems to me that SM and FF are out of sink by one, i.e. you might expect SM 2.15 to be equivalent of FF (2 + 15) 17, but in fact SM 2.15 is equivalent to FF (2 + 15 + *1* ) 18. SM 2.19 is equivalent to FF (2 + 19 + *1* ) 22. Don't know why, just is!! Prior to TB going extended release or whatever it's called, FF nn related to TB nn. So how about embedding somewhere in each SM release the version of FF/TB that it supposedly mimics, (is equivalent to). This could even be placed in the release notes, along with some other descriptions of the code base levels on which this given SM release is based. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I import/merge into a profile?
Daniel wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Windows 7 ultimate, SM 2.15.2 I have one profile 111.default and a tree of folders 222.default which is a renamed profile structure from elsewhere. I would like to import/merge 222.default into 111.default. What is the proper, easiest, way of doing this? Rostylaw, don't know about the proper way, but. *If you just move/copy the files from .default to .default, you will overwrite you active account* , so what I would do is, in Win7 Explorer, rename the .default inbox to _inbox and then move/copy it into your .default profile at the same level as its inbox. Then, when you open SM, you should see both your inbox and the _inbox listed under your normal profile and can move mail from one folder to the other, if needed. Do likewise for the sent folder, drafts folder, etc from the c,default profile into the .default profile. Don't worry about renaming any of the *.msf folders, they will be recreated as needed. Thank you Daniel. What you recommend will, of course, work. But that seems to me to me to be the brute force method and I was hoping that there was some more elegant way or facility for doing this task. Mr. Gordon. If what you suggest is different from Daniels' method, then please explain again, as I do not understand what you are suggesting. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How do I import/merge into a profile?
Windows 7 ultimate, SM 2.15.2 I have one profile 111.default and a tree of folders 222.default which is a renamed profile structure from elsewhere. I would like to import/merge 222.default into 111.default. What is the proper, easiest, way of doing this? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Need help rebuilding my mail accounts.
Windows 7 ultimate Seamonkey 2.15.1 I have suddenly lost all the settings for my mail accounts. My main mail server is the ATTT (formerly Bellsouth.net) POP server So please will someone who uses that server write me how to fill in the mail account set up wizard. In (Account Settings) (outgoing SMTP server): server name: ?? port: ??? Authentication method: Connection security: In (Server settings): server name: ? port: ??? Connection security: Authentication method: ??? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Reading messages and read/unread status
Windows 7 ultimate now with SM 2.15.1 I am re posting my query. Since no on chose to reply to my original posting from 1/13/2013. So does anybody able to help? Windows 7 ultimate For quite a while now I have had the problem that when I read a message the busy indicator, (little auroboros , circle chasing its tail), comes on and doesn't go out. Up until a couple of days ago, this did not seem to cause any lasting problems. i.e. I could go to another message, or another task as if the busy didn't matter. However now the read/unread status of the 'read' message, (green asterisk in status column) does not change i.e. remains on. If I am displaying the verbal/expanded text status column the status does not change. But if I manually click on a status asterisk for a message it does change properly and the verbal status in the text column changes as well. What do I need to do to correct the situation? - make the busy indicator behave properly - have the read/unread status indicators behave correctly? Can it be done, short of completely re-installing SeaMonkey? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
My profile has stopped working
Windows 7 , SM 2.15.1 A couple of weeks ago my profile has gone belly-up. Seemingly all the files are still there, But: - My email account has stopped working: I am connected to DSL on ATT, my email account mailbox is POP. I can and do receive and can read email. But I can no longer post any email. I would appreciate someone mailing me the proper parameters for a valid account. - I used to have an Imap account connected to the Microsoft live network. But all of a sudden it has stopped working - I was subscribed to a couple of news feeds. These have stopped working Help! -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Reading messages and read/unread status
Windows 7 ultimate For quite a while now I have had the problem that when I read a message the busy indicator, (little auroboros , circle chasing its tail), comes on and doesn't go out. Up until a couple of days ago, this did not seem to cause any lasting problems. i.e. I could go to another message, or another task as if the busy didn't matter. However now the read/unread status of the 'read' message, (green asterisk in status column) does not change i.e. remains on. If I am displaying the verbal/expanded text status column the status does not change. But if I manually click on a status asterisk for a message it does change properly and the verbal status in the text column changes as well. What do I need to do to correct the situation? - make the busy indicator behave properly - have the read/unread status indicators behave correctly? Can it be done, short of completely re-installing SeaMonkey? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Nasty font tag bug in newish versions (maybe since 2.13)
Rob wrote: David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote: On 12/20/12 6:40 AM, Rob wrote: Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Amen. The last job I had was in 1996 and ALL email was HTML. Where are you text-only people coming from? A world that recognises that it takes only 10 bytes to say Thank you., not 2500. The world today is no longer about bytes or kilobytes. Today we calculate in megabytes, gigabytes or terabytes. People no longer treat mail as a novelty that can transfer messages like a telex did in the past. They use it like a fax or letter. That means mail includes mark-up, letterhead, vcard-like signatures, etc. I have no problem if you want to aleniate yourself from that world, but it is the world that businesses and software operates in. You describe a world where fluff is more important than information. But that is the real world. You can deny that, but it only describes your (lack of) relation with the real world, not the actual situation in the real world. I fully agree with you that in today's world fluff is more important than information. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: adobe flash not working on cnn.com
rjkrjk wrote: http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/bestoftv/2012/12/05/tsr-pkg-moos-youtube-bank-robber.cnn win xp sp3 unable to view video's on cnn.com (see link above) seems to have current adobe flash 11.502.510.110 cleared Cache... no help any other options here ? Win7 64bit ultra . Up to date as far as I know. SM 2.14.1 (32 bit) Flash 11.5.502.110 , reported by video during playback. Works for me both advertisements and story clips: only watched:bank robber and dogs driving. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: v2.14.1 is out.
Ant wrote: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ but no internal updates yet. Ok. The first round of corrections for problems found by users of the 2.14 release is out. So it's almost time to upgrade from 2.13.2 -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.14 address book
Jens Hatlak wrote: question wrote: Address book works Fine if you use it for the First Entry Once I enter an E-mail in the first line. Then click the 2nd line and Choose Address Book, THE ADDRESS BOOK IS A BLANK PAGE . All address are gone This is a known issue, see http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/. Unfortunately the regression was not caught before the release. In case there'll be a 2.14.1, the fix would probably be included, otherwise in 2.15. HTH Jens I'm holding off on 2.14 hoping that there is a 2.14.1 to fix all the things that user testing of the 2.14 release has now revealed. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Ant wrote: On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed: I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5 GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P Just a suggestion: It would be nice if one could put up on the screen a threaded, tree/bush diagram, displaying all the windows and tabs that are open in the current SM session. Then by pointing to a particular node have it provide a menu to allow one: to open the node displaying it, close it, or expunge it from the SM session. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Philip TAYLOR wrote: If we are voting, I would prefer all outstanding bugs to be fixed before any further non-essential features are added. Well mine was just a wish list, suggestion. Of course I won't object if some developer takes a fancy to it and implements/develops it. If given choice, I also would urge\vote that priority of effort be given to cleaning out the collection of existing bugs/errors in the current SM product. But realizing that SM is a volunteer effort, does that mean that I should keep silent with suggestions, that might distract some developer from working on ,possibly, a bug fix? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SeaMonkey support Windows 8?
Jim Dell wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Desiree wrote: Under System Requirements for SeaMonkey Windows 8 is not mentioned. Why? Does SM not work on Windows 8 (desktop not Metro)? I need it to work because a Windows 8 computer is on its way. and ALL 8 of my EMail addresses are POP only. I'm planning on using SeaMonkey Mail but now I am worried about it working on Windows 8. As reported in other threads, yes, SM works in W8, no compatability mode, no tweaks, nada. It works. As does Firefox. Haven't tested Thunderbird but I couldn't care less. I think it would be good to specify the type of hardware used. I think there is going to be some confusion over the different types of Windows 8. Make sure people know it's not the tablet version. Jim Yes it would be good to have a section, or link/pointer to such, that states clearly and unambiguously that sm 2.xxx works on W8 under the following configurations. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.13.1?..
Edmund Wong wrote: Rufus wrote: ...according to this - http://www.itworld.com/software/302609/mozilla-releases-firefox-1601-address-four-vulnerabilities Firefox and Thunderbird have already released updates, but I don't find a SM 2.13.1 on the front page. Standing by... Working on it right now.. thank you for your patience. So is there any reason to do a 2.12.1 -- 2.13 upgrade? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Odd behavior SM2.12.x
W3BNR wrote: Since 2.12 came out I notice an odd behavior. When clicking on a link in an e-mail window, the browser window comes up and loads and then there is an immediate return to the e-mail window. Running Windows 7 Home Edition and the following add-ons (all had been working fine with previous versions of SM so I don't think it's an addon problem): Very similar here. Windows 7 ultimate 64bit, User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 No add-ons. I find this new behavior very annoying. But I think that it must be intentional, i.e. broken as designed. I find the whole window and tab threading structure in SM to be confusing. Sometimes following a link will open a new window, while at other times it opens a new tab attached to the current window. Which contents will be displayed on the screen (focus?) must be according to some rules but not intuitively clear. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Way to delete string of 50 Bookmarks
Jens Hatlak wrote: Rufus wrote: Export all of your Bookmarks as an .html file, edit the file. The delete all of your Bookmarks within SM, and then Import Bookmarks from the edited file. Note that using that method you will probably lose some information, namely favicons, tags and visited counts/date. The format that keeps most information is JSON (Tools/Backup), maybe even everything (actually I'm not sure about visited counts/date there). Do you know ahead of time approximately which grouping of Bookmarks you will be dealing with, e.g. 'they are all from Bookmarks that I will gather during today's browsing session'. If so then at the beginning of the session create a Bookmarks folder and save your Bookmarks there. Then at the end they will all be in one place and you can sort them and it will be easier to select the groups to delete . It isn't a clean solution, but should make things easier. Definitely easier than Dump Edit Reload. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Is there planned or likely to be a 2.10.2?
Is there planned or likely to be a 2.10.2 bug fix release before the 2.11 which is now at the beta level? Is it at all likely that 2.11 will be more thoroughly tested, than 2.10 was, at least the version for 32 bit Windows 7 ? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
gjikkl wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used. Win 7 64-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 18 tabs open. 519,296 Kb of RAM used. gjikkl. Just for funnsies, How about opening just 12 tabs and reporting on a more comparable case. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
gjikkl wrote: INstead why don't you ask yourself: am I making stupid assumptions based on information I recollected myself as true? How can you assume a PC would have 4MB of RAM? not even a Cell phone has that little, if you don't know anything about computers I'd suggest to shut up and inform yourself before writing anything else. Jahwohl master gjikkl! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: gjikkl wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used. Win 7 64-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 18 tabs open. 519,296 Kb of RAM used. Pray tell, what pages are opened in those 18 tabs? Minor detail ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
Libertarian Lilly wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyjurj...@bellsouth.net wrote : GerardJan wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Come to think of it, if SM is using about 41 megs of RAM per open tab, isn't that WAY excessive? good enough for me, i have 4Mbyte physical memory sincerely, Huh? 41megs 4Mbyte No, 41 megabytes per open tab. 12 tabs uses 440 megs, right? My calculator reports that 41 times 12 equals 492. But if GerardJan has (only) 4Mbytes of physical memory, how does he fit that 41 meg tab into it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
Ed Mullen wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyjurj...@bellsouth.net wrote : GerardJan wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Come to think of it, if SM is using about 41 megs of RAM per open tab, isn't that WAY excessive? good enough for me, i have 4Mbyte physical memory sincerely, Huh? 41megs 4Mbyte No, 41 megabytes per open tab. 12 tabs uses 440 megs, right? My calculator reports that 41 times 12 equals 492. But if GerardJan has (only) 4Mbytes of physical memory, how does he fit that 41 meg tab into it? Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used. Now you're trying to confuse me :) GerardJan wrote 4Mbytes. You write 4Gb Ram! 12 x 41 = 492 megs. But you write that 12 tabs use 155,740 Kb of RAM! Are you discussing the same case Ed? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
GerardJan wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Come to think of it, if SM is using about 41 megs of RAM per open tab, isn't that WAY excessive? good enough for me, i have 4Mbyte physical memory sincerely, Huh? 41megs 4Mbyte ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released
Philip Chee wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 11:40:56 +1000, Daniel wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: djrei...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:31:20 UTC+1, Jens Hatlak wrote: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 released I'm on SM 2.9 (with Win XP/SP3), and about: tells me, You are currently on the beta update channel. When I click on Help Check for updates..., nothing is found. Shouldn't it find 2.9.1? Or do I need to get off the beta channel? Thanks! We've had a glitch or two in our 2.10 beta builds so far, the changes in 2.9.1 are not security related I thought you hard working guys were only going to produce these minor updates if it were a security thing (chemspils??) If SM 2.9.1 is not security related, why produce it?? Security *and* stability fixes. If severe data loss (disappearing emails) isn't a stability issue, I don't know what is. And if we are going to respin to pick up such fixes we might let a few low risk not as important fixes ride along. Phil The more fixes the merrier. i.e. I wish more bugs (issues) get fixed, as soon it can be accomplished. Of course I also wish there weren't as many new bugs getting through to the released product versions, in the first place. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders
Mike C wrote: I just started getting the following every time I open mail: Do you wish to compact all local and offline folders to save disk space? How do I stop it? Compact the folders. file compact folders If that doesn't clear it up then compact the folders individually: For each folder - right click on the folder and compact this folder. Starting with your INBOX. If you have nested folders then compact the main folder and each of the nested folders. If that isn't enough, then: For each folder - right click on the folder choose properties and then repair folder. Then compress the folder. After that - I'm all out of ideas. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Only check for new mail after opening Mail Newsgroups
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Which is this setting? Edit | Mail Newsgroups Account Settings | Server Settings [ ] Check for new messages at startup [ ] Check for new messages every nn minutes [ ] Automatically download new messages CORRECTION: Unless all three are UNchecked for all your accounts, SM will check, and for those accounts where the third option is checked, it will download messages. It's not enough to clear the boxes for one account. And why is this NOT on a per account basis? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Your browser is blocking Flash error message
Rob Lindauer wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.8 on an x64 Win7 ultimate OS Starting several days ago when I log in to Att/Yahoo webmail I get the following error message box: Do you perhaps have Noscript installed? I get that message from sites expecting flash but for which I haven't enabled scripting. No, I do not have Noscript. In preferencesadvancedscriptsplugins: I have Javascript enabled for the Browser and at the bottom, for when additional plug ins are required I have checked the box that says Display a notification at the top of the content area -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Your browser is blocking Flash error message
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-04-01 12:24 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.8 on an x64 Win7 ultimate OS Starting several days ago when I log in to Att/Yahoo webmail I get the following error message box: --- Flash required for this application X Your browser is blocking Flash. You must have Flash 9.0 or higher installed and unblocked to run an openmail application. You can download and install the latest Flash Player _here_ OK -- The issue seems to be specific to Yahoo mail. They have been contacted about it. In the meantime, you can switch to classic mode in Yahoo. I am glad that someone has been able to find a path to contact them because I have been unable to find an e-mail address to which one can send technical questions at Yahoo and ATT. I'd be most glad if someone could e-mail me such an address and, or, post such an address here. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Your browser is blocking Flash error message
SM 2.8 on an x64 Win7 ultimate OS Starting several days ago when I log in to Att/Yahoo webmail I get the following error message box: --- Flash required for this application X Your browser is blocking Flash. You must have Flash 9.0 or higher installed and unblocked to run an openmail application. You can download and install the latest Flash Player _here_ OK -- where that _here_ is a link to the Adobe Flash Player 11.2.202.228 download page which reports: Your system: Windows 64-bit , English, Firefox Do you have a different operating system or browser? Note:The 64-bit Flash Player installer includes both a 32-bit and 64-bit version of Flash Player To be on the safe side, just in case my Flash had become disconnected from SM I downloaded and reinstalled it. However the error message keeps coming back whenever I log in to webmail, But if I click on the X (to close the error box) or on OK, the error box goes away and my webmail session appears to work without crashing or obvious errors. So what can be the problem between the webmail site and SM and/or SM and my installed Flash? How is SM blocking Flash? How can I check the connection between my SM and my Flash? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Your browser is blocking Flash error message
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.8 on an x64 Win7 ultimate OS Starting several days ago when I log in to Att/Yahoo webmail I get the following error message box: --- Flash required for this application X Your browser is blocking Flash. You must have Flash 9.0 or higher installed and unblocked to run an openmail application. You can download and install the latest Flash Player _here_ OK -- where that _here_ is a link to the Adobe Flash Player 11.2.202.228 download page which reports: Your system: Windows 64-bit , English, Firefox Do you have a different operating system or browser? Note:The 64-bit Flash Player installer includes both a 32-bit and 64-bit version of Flash Player To be on the safe side, just in case my Flash had become disconnected from SM I downloaded and reinstalled it. However the error message keeps coming back whenever I log in to webmail, But if I click on the X (to close the error box) or on OK, the error box goes away and my webmail session appears to work without crashing or obvious errors. So what can be the problem between the webmail site and SM and/or SM and my installed Flash? How is SM blocking Flash? How can I check the connection between my SM and my Flash? If you go here, Adobe will tell you what you have installed. If they say you have it, you have it and the Yahoos are mistaken. http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html Well I went to that site and it reported that I have 11.2.202.228 installed. Then I went down to section 3 on the page where it says that the latest version available for Win7 both 32 and 64 bit is 11.1.102.62 So it seems that the version I downloaded and installed is more recent than Adobe says is available ??? :) But it's definitely higher than 9.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Ok. So when can we expect 2.8.1
The subject: header says it all. :) Perhaps a bug fix-up release. Hopefully not a chem spill release. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ok. So when can we expect 2.8.1
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-03-14 6:29 PM, _Rostyslaw Lewyckyj_ spoke thusly: The subject: header says it all. :) Perhaps a bug fix-up release. Hopefully not a chem spill release. As far as I know, there are no plans for a 2.8.1 release. Why are you expecting one? But definitely! As the ship of 2.8 signals the beginning of the gamma test phase for the new release. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ok. So when can we expect 2.8.1
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 14/03/2012 19:29, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj told the world: The subject: header says it all. :) Perhaps a bug fix-up release. Hopefully not a chem spill release. Under the release train system, the only reason for a 2.8.1 release would be an oilspill/chemspill -- that is, a fairly serious bug that CANNOT wait for the next release. If the problem is deemed not worthy of an oilspill, it will be held to the next train. That's how it works. Fine. Well how do you classify bug #735946 just reported by Rufus? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: threads ignored in one newsgroup
Dushan Mitrovich wrote: Also re-posted... In most of the newsgroups I read the threads work as expected, with those posts that have the same Subject line grouped under the same thread. So Expand and Collapse also work as expected. But in one n.g., for Mathematica, quite often posts with the same Subject line are given different threads, largely defeating the Collapse action. This may be because all the posts go first to a moderator who passes them on, so modifying the headers. Is there a way to group n.g. posts into threads based solely on the content of the Subject line? Thanks. - Dushan Well, you can't really thread the articles. But you can sort the newsgroup on Subject. That will at least bring all identical article subjects together and similar subjects into close proximity. Usually the articles will also be sorted by date, which sort of approximates the order in a thread. HTH -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: libpng graphics library vulnerabilities in old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 web browser?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: Jens Hatlak wrote: ... Yes, as always, all currently known vulnerabilities are fixed in the current stable release, Hmmm. That is quite a broad and strong statement ! :) Well, at least all the ones listed in the list I pointed to. :) and, it's quite possible, the vulnerabilities not listed in that list have not been fixed!! If you know any specific one, please let us know. All vulnerability fixes we know of are in 2.7.2, but as always, nobody can know everything. Robert Kaiser And it's always possible that something that's claimed as fixed, really isn't. Or is only partially fixed. Like a leaky pipe patched except for that annoying pin hole. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: libpng graphics library vulnerabilities in old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 web browser?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 22/02/2012 12:34, Philip TAYLOR told the world: MCBastos wrote: In http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26922231- security forum thread, Error: Either this forum does not exist, or it is members only! Could you please offer a link to a publicly-available reference to what exactly is this vulnerability? Publicly available here; perhaps you are trying to connect from an IP address associated with something undesirable ? No, Ant got it -- it's the hyphen at the end, that Seamonkey interprets as NOT being part of the URL (and I never would guess it's supposed to be). All right, fine. Clicking on the link as posted, when in SM 2.7.2 , is not interpreted correctly by SM! It is interpreted correctly in ATT/YAHOO webmail (being accessed via SM 2.7.2) and possibly when the news article is being read in another reader e.g. I.E. So is this a bug in the SM browser? Has it been entered into BUGZILLA? or is it an already known old bug? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: libpng graphics library vulnerabilities in old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 web browser?
Jens Hatlak wrote: ... Yes, as always, all currently known vulnerabilities are fixed in the current stable release, HTH Jens Hmmm. That is quite a broad and strong statement ! :) -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: libpng graphics library vulnerabilities in old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 web browser?
WLS wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 22/02/2012 12:34, Philip TAYLOR told the world: MCBastos wrote: In http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26922231- security forum thread, Error: Either this forum does not exist, or it is members only! Could you please offer a link to a publicly-available reference to what exactly is this vulnerability? Publicly available here; perhaps you are trying to connect from an IP address associated with something undesirable ? No, Ant got it -- it's the hyphen at the end, that Seamonkey interprets as NOT being part of the URL (and I never would guess it's supposed to be). All right, fine. Clicking on the link as posted, when in SM 2.7.2 , is not interpreted correctly by SM! It is interpreted correctly in ATT/YAHOO webmail (being accessed via SM 2.7.2) and possibly when the news article is being read in another reader e.g. I.E. So is this a bug in the SM browser? Has it been entered into BUGZILLA? or is it an already known old bug? The link is incomplete in that post, as far as I can see. It should be, and I think I addressed how to get to it in another post. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26906111-Mozilla-Security-release-to-fix-libpng-graphics-library-vuln No. The link in the message is complete. But SM does not pick up the trailing - when you click on the url. All you have to do is to add the missing - at the end of the url (after it fails) and do a carriage return so that SM retries with the corrected url. Or highlight the url including the -, copy it to the clipboard (ctrl-c), and use ctrl-v to enter the full url from the clipboard to the url entry blank. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Header shows wrong tags when displaying articles in a tab
Currently on SM 2.7, But I don't think it's version dependent! I have a mail folder with some messages which I think are duplicates, and I'm trying to check this. - I tag one article as 'to do' and the other article as 'later' - I point to the first and ask for it to be opened in a new tab. - I point to the second and ask for it to be opened in a new tab. I expect that when I go to the first tab the header of the displayed article will have it labeled as 'to do' and when I go to the second tab the header will show its tag as 'later' However in both tabs the displayed article is tagged as 'later' ! If I close the tabs and simply open the articles, they display with the proper tags. If I point to the first, the 'to do' article and ask for it to be opened in a new tab, and then go to that tab, the article is displayed with the wrong i.e. 'later' tag. Is this an already known bug? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Who's monkeying with the mozilla.support.seamonkey: record in my news.mozilla.com.rc file?
Every several months something corrupts the contents of the mozilla.support.seamonkey: record in the news.mozilla.com.rc file of my SM profile. All of a sudden, all of the unread articles in the newsgroup are marked as read. This happens in between news reading sessions. i.e. when I connect to the server the next time, the number of unread articles reported has dropped from whatever it was when I ended the previous reading session, down to only the number of new articles that have just arrived. If I open the .rc file with an editor, the record for the newsgroup has been modified to show most of the articles for the newsgroup, as having been already read. Since this is happening in between news reading sessions, I think that, it must be happening when the .rc file is being rewritten, saved back from memory to disk. Have any of you also encountered this bug. Is it a known bug, since?..., I have had it byte me several times in the last year or so, until it's finally annoyed me enough to write. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?
Jay Garcia wrote: On 22.01.2012 03:14, Jochen Roderburg wrote: --- Original Message --- Anybody knows why this seamonkey newsgroup is no longer available via Google groups? They say: The group named mozilla.support.seamonkey has been removed because it violated Google's Terms Of Service. No more explanations. :-( That's a pity because I found it always very convenient to browse through the discussions there. I used the direct NNTP access only when I wanted to post something myself (like this message ;-) Regards, Jochen Roderburg I filed a bug on this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720223 Now, if, somebody manages to 'resurrect' the *Google* group mozilla.support.seamonkey what kind of mess will be the result? There will be the 'official' newsgroup mozilla.support.seamonkey hosted on the Mozilla news server. There will be the 'Google' group mozilla.support.seamonkey hosted at Google and There may be the/an Internet newsgroup mozilla.support.seamonkey (if one has gotten created within that structure) Items posted on 'official' newsgroup will be picked up by the other two. Discussions posted to Google will probably remain locked up within Google and things posted to the Internet newsgroup mozilla.support.seamonkey will get passed on to those hosts which receive that newsgroup. They may get picked up by Google. But will probably not make it to the Mozilla news server. (This last situation was the case with the Netscape newsgroups, where there were any number of postings floating around but not getting archived to the 'official' collection.) So of what benefit is it create/resurrect the Google group named mozilla.support.seamonkey? Certainly let, encourage, Google to archive and mirror the content on the Mozilla news server, but not to set up a private group with private contents. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top-posting
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Some of us routinely clip!-) And such replies I routinely read :-) Philip Taylor And if you'd like to see what has been written previously, so that you don't wind up simply repeating what has already been written by someone else, more than one screen back? :-D ? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top-posting
Chris Ilias wrote: As I said, requests about format take focus away from helping people use SeaMonkey. In other words, top-posting vs bottom-posting debates are off-topic and don't belong here. They always end up turning into long pissing matches, and no-one ever changes their opinion. So please take this debate somewhere else, thanks. Well, yes. But 'nature calls' and we all need to relieve ourselves. And for some of us nature strikes with an urgency. :-D Although the resulting stream may be quite weak or just a dribble. -- ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.6.1 ?
Mr. Callek you did write that 2.6.1 was a Chemspill release caused by something related to the Macintosh system. So is the current version 2.6.1 as it now exists 'unannounced' frozen in content? I.e. If someone gets it now it will be bitwise identical to what one will get after you announce it officially a few weeks from now? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Which of these security flaws are present in SM 2.6.1
In their 12/22/2011 security bulletin, @RISK: The Consensus Security Vulnerability Alert Week 52 2011 SANS reports the following vulnerabilities in Mozilla FF TB releases. Since SM code is so closely related to the Moz. FF TB codes, which, if any, of these vulnerabilities are present in SM 2.6.1 and when are they due to be removed? * (3) HIGH: Mozilla Firefox Multiple Security Vulnerabilities Affected: Firefox 8.x Description: Mozilla has released patches for multiple security vulnerabilities affecting its Firefox web browser. The vulnerabilities include unspecified memory corruptions, an unspecified crash caused by faulty regular expression handling in the YARR library, and a memory corruption vulnerability within Mozilla's SVG implementation that can be triggered within the DOMAttrModified event handle. It is likely that some of these vulnerabilities could be exploited in order to execute code on a target's machine. To do so, an attacker would have to entice a target to view a malicious web page. Status: vendor confirmed, updates available References: Vendor Site http://www.mozilla.org Mozilla Firefox Security Bulletins http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2011/mfsa2011-53.html http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2011/mfsa2011-54.html http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2011/mfsa2011-55.html http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2011/mfsa2011-56.html http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2011/mfsa2011-57.html http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2011/mfsa2011-58.html SecurityFocus BugTraq ID http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/51138 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/51133 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/51134 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/51135 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/51136 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/51137 * - -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.6 browser no longer compatible with Yahoo web mail
User wrote: The newly released SM 2.60 web browser appears to be no longer compatible with Yahoo web mail's integrated Yahoo web messenger and SMS windows. Whenever these functions are initiated, or a Yahoo web messenger message or SMS message is received, the message window does not pop up or appear even though the loading bar appears to indicate that the windows are loading and load successfully. Anyone else have the same problem? I just upgraded from SM 2.5 from a clean uninstall and then a full install of SM 2.6. Unfortunately, will have to go back to SM 2.5 for now. Would be interested to hearing from anyone who uses Yahoo web mail to test out the IM and SMS functions windows. System is 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate on a genuine Intel based Lenovo box. 32 bit SM 2.5 is updates (not reinstalls) since ~2.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 My ISP is Bellsouth/ATT and mail is from http://us.mg203.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.partner=sbc.gx=1.rand=0r377bnsncfsj i.e. YAHOO I have been on SM 2.5 already for a several weeks. All of a sudden a couple of days ago, when I logged in to YAHOO webmail, I received a message that my mail client/browser was not supported ... and did I want to go back to mail classic or to continue to the new, webmail? I chose to continue with the new webmail! When I went to YAHOO webmail again subsequently, I was immediately connected to the new webmail. As I do not use their other products, either web messenger or SMS windows I can offer no specific feedback on your problem. However there was some YAHOO change which affected already SM 2.5. So it doesn't seem to be due to a change in 2.6. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 news server password not being saved?
Zanqeutil wrote: David H. Durgee schreef: I am seeing some strange behavior with 2.5 and news groups. Despite having previously saved the user and password for a server that requires it I keep getting prompted for the password and sometimes the username as well. When I open the password manager I see the username and password recorded for the web site (news.individual.net), but most often I do not see entries for the news server. Sometimes shutting down SeaMonkey 2.5 will clear this up, sometimes not. How can this be fixed? Dave I have had the same problems with Seamonkey 2.5 and some newsservers. I keep getting prompted for the password and the username. A News (NNTP) error occured: Authentication failed - Incorrect username/password When I try again, multiple times Sometime it sticks and entries can be found in the password manager, sometimes it does not work. Never had this with older Seamonkey versions. I have seen it before in the old Mozilla Suite. Seamonkey 2.5 is based on Thunderbird 8 (as far as I know), Seems to ba a bug. There is a threat about the same problem in the Thunderbird newsgroup: Newsgroup username/password problems 16-11-2011 http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/ba37101d15a5e9f0/6505926bc5f49203?show_docid=6505926bc5f49203 Zanqeutil I am just idly wondering if this is a timing problem. I.e. SM replies too quickly to username/password from the server, and the server doesn't get the message. Perhaps the connection and authentication protocol/conversation between SM and the server should be paced at a human interaction speed with few milliseconds of delays between the back and forth messages. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
WLS wrote: On 12/02/2011 09:27 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.5 on a Win7 Ultimate system. I tried the instructions given in Help for finding a bookmark in my saved bookmarks however I don't have a 'search bookmarks' option on the 'tools' drop down menu under manage bookmarks ??? I arrived at my SM 2.5 configuration via pushed (auto) updates from SeaMonkey org starting at about 2.1. Bookmarks Manage Bookmarks, the Search Bookmarks bar is at the far right And Philip TAYLOR wrote: What appears top-right in your Manage Bookmarks window, Rostyk ? I have an unlabeled (except for the little magnifying glass icon/glyph) input box. But that is not what is described in the 'Help' manual when I search for 'searching bookmarks' which is: == To search the bookmarks list: 1. Open the Bookmarks menu and choose Manage Bookmarks. 2. In your Bookmarks window, open the Tools menu and choose Search Bookmarks. You see the Find Bookmarks dialog box. 3. In the drop-down lists, choose options to define your search, and then click Find. Bookmarks that match your search criteria are displayed. Choose from the following Search options: Choose contains, starts with, or ends with if you know only part of the word or phrase for which you're searching. Choose is if you know exactly what you're searching for. Choose is not or doesn't contain to exclude pages. Click the fill-in field and type all or part of name or URL (web address) for the bookmarks or history listings that you want to find or exclude. Select Save query in bookmarks to save this search for later use. 4. Double-click a bookmark in the list to go to that page. = 2. doesn't have a 'Search Bookmarks' menu choice, and of course there isn't a Find Bookmarks dialog box. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/2/11 6:27 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.5 on a Win7 Ultimate system. I tried the instructions given in Help for finding a bookmark in my saved bookmarks however I don't have a 'search bookmarks' option on the 'tools' drop down menu under manage bookmarks ??? I arrived at my SM 2.5 configuration via pushed (auto) updates from SeaMonkey org starting at about 2.1. Bug reports: Adjust help for changes with places bookmarks landing -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557504 Bookmarks Manager Menubar Contains Non-Applicable Items -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707214 Bookmarks Manager Menubar Lacks Find Option -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707216 Thank you for filing bugs 707214 707216. I read all three entries. But as I'm not versed in Bugzilla, I didn't really make much sense out of 557504. I am now confused whether SM Help is more correct, and the code is just full of errors, or the code is more correct the ability to search for a bookmark has been (re)moved to the 'search?' box is the upper right hand corner? Where is the bookmarks facility and its features et.c. described? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is return receipts broken in old SeaMonkey v2.0.14's e-mail client?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ant wrote: I just noticed my sent e-mails, with return receipts request, don't ask/send an e-mail (assuming not ignored) for it even to myself. What's up? Please describe your settings in: Mail Newsgroups - Return Receipts My email clients will never respond to your receipt request. The default is Never send. I and others I've spoken with feel they are an invasion of privacy. And where you are sending to yourself, perhaps the program is smart enough to know that you don't need a receipt. No, it's not broken. Behaving as designed? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Download Manager help request
Hartmut Figge wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj: SM 2.4.1 on Windows 7. I accidentally clicked clear list instead of exit. How do I recover the list? What is the name of the file that I need to undelete, or recover from backup? Just a guess. I have a file with the name downloads.sqlite in my profile, which *might* be the one you are looking for. Don't forget to close SM before experimenting. Thank you very much Hartmut. I recovered downloads.sqlite from backup and it seems to have worked. Of course I lost the newest several entries since my last backup. Too bad that the sqlite file is not human readable, so I don't know how to repair the one I damaged. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Download Manager help request
SM 2.4.1 on Windows 7. I accidentally clicked clear list instead of exit. How do I recover the list? What is the name of the file that I need to undelete, or recover from backup? Advance thanks -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Wrong info in new messages pop up in lower right corner.
SM 2.4.1 on Windows 7 Often when I select one of my email accounts (usually the first, which is my principal account) and choose to download all new messages, either via the icon on the toolbar, or via ^D and SM connects and downloads the messages for that account a little pop up box appears in the lower right corner of the screen stating that there are nnn new messages in y. The oddity is that the nnn matches the number of messages downloaded BUT y names a different mail account. E.g. I select my Bellsouth account. I download 15 messages The little message box pops up stating that You have 15 new messages in HEELMAIL Checking the accounts, I find 15 new (tagged) messages in the Bellsouth Inbox, But no new messages in the HEELMAIL Inbox. Does anyone else's system do the same? Is this a known bug? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.4.1 - Cancel/Del not working
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WLS (CompTIA A+ Certified - Retired) wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: OK, I just canceled the message to which you replied. Is it really gone, or just hidden from me? Yes That has to be one of the all-time most useless answers in the history of mankind. Thank you very much, Mr. Wise Guy. For anyone else who's following, let's rephrase my question this way: can you still see the canceled message even though I can't? If I unsubscribe from the newsgroup, delete the msf file from my disk, and resubscribe, downloading all 66,000-odd headers, will the canceled message be among them (is it still on the server) or not? If not, then it's really gone. Why don't you try it with the newsgroup mozilla.test on the news.mozilla.org server. Actualy it might be a good idea to have SM put up a box with an explanation/lesson about the results of executing the command. It could actually link to a humorous animation about not being able to kill or put the message back in the box, because it has escaped into Internet. :-) :-D :-P :-D Of course I realize that the effort would be better spent by correcting some of the real bugs infesting the SM code. -- Rostyk P.s. posting this also tests if there is any progress on curing my spurious bounces whenever I post to mozilla.support.seamonkey :-) :-D :-P ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.4.1 - Cancel/Del not working
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: ... Are you really having fun yanking my chain? Well after the first several replies to the OP, the thread has become a humerous source of amusement. The Del key used to work, but not anymore. SM doesn't even squawk about an invalid keypress, it just sits there in silence ignoring me. In earlier versions, I would get prompted either (in case of someone else's message) that I wasn't entitled to delete the message or (in case of my own message) that I needed to confirm the deletion. There's nothing at all in the context menu anymore. An unpublicized attempt at an improvement. For spam, marking as read is as much effort as I'm willing to invest, since, I normally navigate from message to message by choosing next/previous unread message. Once in a while, I see that someone has already deleted it when I get the error message about there being no such message (thanks to whoever's doing this!). Attn. Illias! See it's probably you getting some praise. For my own mistakes, I really wish I could take them off the server so no more people see them. But people in a position to know seem to be saying this is not possible. You can't get it killed/expunged off the Internet. :-) But perhaps for groups to which Chris Illias has the proper authority (keys on his ring), you could beg him to delete your message so that it's off that server. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
And another test to see if *they* have repaired the spurious bounce problem
Just another post to check if the bounce problem has been repaired, or still exists -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: And another test to see if *they* have repaired the spurious bounce problem
WLS (CompTIA A+ Certified - Retired) wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Just another post to check if the bounce problem has been repaired, or still exists Nothing to repair, move along. So, now you think that this is a normal occurrence? If not, then advise me how to get these bounce messages stopped, (since you're a A+ Certified something) . I'll even send you the contents of the next bounce message. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Another test for spurious bounce messages
This tests whether I will get one or two email bounce messages from mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu if I crosspost to mozilla.support.seamonkey and mozilla.test. Or hopefully they will repair the problem, so that these bounce messages stop. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.
Frog wrote: Frog wrote: I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen? Thanks in advance for any help sent my way. Frog I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned about the Attachment of the signature being a problem. I then decided if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image file. I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with few steps involved. Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox): 1. Clicked Compose 2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text. 3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located under the subject space and above the message space. I then selected Script MT Bold from the drop down list. 4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow. 5. Lastly, I sent the message. Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to the original settings once the message was sent. I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know. Also, I believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know. Thanks again for your help. Frog Unfortunately step 3 makes no sense to me. I don't have any windows between the subject space and the message space. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I make a signature .GIF file that can be attached to a message?--Message to all that responded to my call for help.
Frog wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Frog wrote: Frog wrote: I am trying to make a .GIF signature file that can be attached to a message---like I can attach a piece of clip art to a message. Can this be done? If so, what are the steps to make this happen? Thanks in advance for any help sent my way. Frog I was about to give up on this signature attempt when I learned about the Attachment of the signature being a problem. I then decided if there was another way of accomplishing the same thing in a non image file. I found the answer right in front of me and it seems to work with few steps involved. Here is what I did (starting from the SeaMonkey Inbox): 1. Clicked Compose 2. Added an Address, Subject, and a Message Text. 3. I then clicked the selection V at the end of the small window containing Variable Width typed in it. (This small window is located under the subject space and above the message space. I then selected Script MT Bold from the drop down list. 4. I next selected the font size for the signature by either clicking the A Up Arrow or the A Down Arrow. 5. Lastly, I sent the message. Note: All of the settings I made during this process reverted back to the original settings once the message was sent. I hope this all makes sense...if not, let me know. Also, I believe this procedure will work without involving the attachment problem identified in some of the responses...if not, let me know. Thanks again for your help. Frog Unfortunately step 3 makes no sense to me. I don't have any windows between the subject space and the message space. Question - Are you looking at the newsgroup compose window or the Inbox compose message? The windows I am referring to in step 3 are only present in the Inbox window--the place where I want to use this capability. Please let me know if this helps...if not, I will try again. Frog Inbox compose. But I'm composing in text mode ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Changes in folder deletion?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Useta be, when I deleted a mail folder, it would be moved to Trash, and I could recover it if I made a mistake -- at least until I emptied the trash. Now it seems that I'm working without a net -- if I delete a folder, it's gone instantly, no chance of recovery. Is there an option I can set to return to the old way, or do I just have to be perfect? Are you aware that shift+delete will delete your message of folder without moving/copying it to trash! Delete will flag the message/folder as deleted in the source folder/folder list. (i.e. they will not be visible), and copy the contents to trash. Shift+Delete will flag the message/folder but will NOT copy the contents to trash. So until you have compressed, or deleted the trash and compressed the folders, you can edit the raw data files to recover the messages, and folders. You can do it either by resetting the flags in X-Mozilla-Status: (Copy from a live message) Perhaps you are inadvertently doing a shift+delete Hope that Helps -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. Your crossposting noted... :-) The .test group is for testing your newsreader. Most of the posting in mozilla.test, and at least the batch in the last few hours, is from the GeraldJan person. This person has stated s/he is taking medication for ... well, you might have seen one of those posts. Message filters should work. Regarding bouncing, there is none from the news server; however, you might want to watch your From: area and make sure you aren't also emailing a copy to a list-subscriber. 1) What do you mean by 'watch your From: area' ??? Did you mean to write 'To: area'. I am sure that I am NOT addressing a separate copy of my postings to anywhere but the newsgroups, unless I am specifically and intentionally CCing to some individual. However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. Just to be sure that something did not flip a bit in the mailing list subscription roster, I went to the SeaMonkey web pages and did an unsubscribe from the mailing list. That put up a message on the browser screen that 'a message has been sent'. But I did not get any confirmation or error message in my mailbox regarding this unsubscribe action. Nevertheless I did receive another e-mail bounce message for the preceding later posting : --- Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:49:16 -0500 From: MDaemon at fts.vcl.sld.cu mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Reply-To: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Subject: Your message can not be delivered To: urj...@bellsouth.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: urj...@bellsouth.net Message-ID: mdaemon007120020049.aa4916...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Actual-From: mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu X-Return-Path: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=1102-0049-16-PART-BREAK The following data may contain sections which represent BASE64 encoded file attachments. These sections will be unreadable without MIME aware tools. Seek your system administrator if you need help extracting any files which may be embedded within this message. --1102-0049-16-PART-BREAK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivery of the attached message: From : urj...@bellsouth.net To : dainie...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Date : Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:40:22 -0400 Subject: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-) would violate local account restrictions. This message was not delivered. .--. Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ - So it seems that the unsubscribe did not repair anything. 2) Yes GeraldJan figures prominently in the list of postings to mozilla.test from the last several hours, and days. But he is not the only poster frequently there from the last several days! -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WLS wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. So has it been repaired? I'm kinda tired of all the spam in my email from the list, since I subscribed yesterday, and I am ready to unsubscribe. LOL! Easy solution: set a filter where From = u...@mozilla-xp.com and the action is to mark the message as read. (If you subscribe to the mailing list, the action should be to mark as junk, and of course junk messages will instantly jump to the trash folder) When reading the group, use N to jump to the next unread message, and you'll always skip over the spam. If you display only threads with unread, you won't even see most of it in the list of messages. I haven't seen any of his crap since I set the filter a week ago. That doesn't repair the problem. It just sweeps it under the rug, so to speak. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem
Larry wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Snip . . . . However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. Snipped . . . None of my occasional newsgroup posts have bounced. Shouldn't they, if they are also automatically forwarded to the mailing list? When the, whatever, mechanism that forwards/mirrors a newsgroup posting to the mailing list creates the list email message , it includes an Errors-To: line in the header of the message. This is supposed to be the address to which any bounce messages by a receiving mail system get sent to. Messages for: an overflowing mailbox, automatic 'on vacation' messages (?), mailbox doesn't exist (account shut down, but no unsubscribe sent to the list), and any other sundry reasons. The Errors-To: address is generally to the list administrator and the message does NOT go back to the newsgroup poster! So, NO, as a newsGROUP poster you should never see a newsLIST bounce message. And that exactly seems to be the problem here. Why am I getting these bounce messages, and how do I get the problem resolved/corrected. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: . Your crossposting noted... :-) Is it necessary to retain the crossposting? No, and I have removed it, assuming that you read mozilla.support.seamonkey Regarding bouncing, there is none from the news server; however, you might want to watch your From: area and make sure you aren't also emailing a copy to a list-subscriber. 1) What do you mean by 'watch your From: area' ??? Did you mean to write 'To: area'. Yeah, you're right. Your To: area. Is there only the newsgroup(s) listed? Not any email addresses? I am sure that I am NOT addressing a separate copy of my postings to anywhere but the newsgroups, unless I am specifically and intentionally CCing to some individual. However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. That is true. Let's examine this bounce. YEs. --- Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:49:16 -0500 From: MDaemon at fts.vcl.sld.cu mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu So how is your newsgroup post getting to a mailer daemon in Cuba? See above lines in *this* post! However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. That is true. :-) Someone in Cuba, dainierlt (??), is subscribed to the SeaMonkey mailing list ??? Reply-To: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu [snip] From : urj...@bellsouth.net You. To : dainie...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Date : Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:40:22 -0400 To: that dainierlt address in Cuba. I'm rather certain that the mozilla support group did not add that address to your post! See same lines above in this post. This message was not delivered. Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ - So it seems that the unsubscribe did not repair anything. No, it is in your configuration somewhere. Check your account settings for your bellsouth account, to look for a copy-to that includes the Cuban address. If you read Spanish, have a look at the sld.cu web site. Are you associated in any way? Info-Med ? NOT Associated in any way with Info-Med! -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: No, it is in your configuration somewhere. Check your account settings for your bellsouth account, to look for a copy-to that includes the Cuban address. Oh, and add your own email address as a CC: then look in that received mail headers for the Cuban address as another TO or CC. If it is a BCC you wouldn't see it. Ok. I'll add myself as a CC: to a posted article. Why not? :-) As a matter of fact I'm adding me as a CC: to this post :-) -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Someone in Cuba, dainierlt (??), is subscribed to the SeaMonkey mailing list ??? Seems to me if that were true, and be the cause of the bounce, wouldn't all of us receive the bounces then? I dunno. It's a puzzlement. (Thanks for snipping the crosspost.) That's what I asked Kai Ro (in email) But I didn't get an answer. Oh, and should I send you what I received on CCing myself on that newsgroup posting? I didn't see anything. But maybe you will :-) -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Spurious e-mail bounce messages when posting to the newsgroup.
Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-10-31 10:45 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: In another thread, Chris Ilias wrote: I also want to make it clear to everyone here that Jay is not a moderator in any of the support newsgroups. The support-seamonkey list owners are listed at https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey, and I'm a newsgroup moderator per http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/cancellation.html. If you see anyone otherwise trying to act like a moderator, they're not. Well Chris, You are a list mom and not an owner or administrator for mozilla.support.seamonkey, and have previously written about how powerful you are with your fingers on the kill switch, so make yourself useful by drawing the attention of someone who can fix it, to the following problem. Since Oct. 14, *each* time that I post to mozilla.support.seamonkey, I have been getting a mail bounce message like: === snip Subject: Your message can not be delivered snip Now Kai Ro wrote me that it isn't a newsgroup problem, but I can't believe him. So do make yourself useful and get this problem to the attention of the proper expert(s) within the Mozilla or SeaMonkey technical staff. I'm not a list mom. I'm a moderator on the newsgroup end of support.seamonkey, not the mailing list. I can remove messages from the news server, but not set up filters for mailing list members or unsubscribe people from the support-seamonkey mailing list. For most support mailing lists, I am list-owner, but not the SeaMonkey one. The Your message can not be delivered issue can be fixed by the list-owner disabling mail delivery to the member who is sending out the bounce messages. I don't want to hear what you're not. You paint yourself as one of the empowered ones inside the organization. I asked you to bring the problem to the attention of the appropriate technician inside the organization. Since posting to the newsgroup is bouncing for me it should logically be bouncing to all the other posters as well, if it were a matter of a bad receiving mailbox. So make yourself useful and bring the problem to the attention of the appropriate technician. Advance thanks -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Spurious e-mail bounce messages when posting to the newsgroup.
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Since posting to the newsgroup is bouncing for me it should logically be bouncing to all the other posters as well, if it were a matter of a bad receiving mailbox. So make yourself useful and bring the problem to the attention of the appropriate technician. I'm having no trouble posting, and I see others are not either, so as one of the all other posters, I can say we don't share your problem, and logically that means it's not a server problem. On the contrary. Supposedly the newsgroup and the mailing list are the same , i.e. every post to the newsgroup is given to the mailing list which distributes it to those subscribed. So every post to the newsgroup should be handled the same way. So if I get an email bounce message for my post to the newsgroup , you should be getting a bounce message for your posts, from the same list subscriber. After all your post is distributed to that address as well. You should be getting that bounce message unless the bounce message gets delivered to the Errors-To: address of the mail list generated header for the mirrored message of your newsgroup post. But something is not happening properly at the server. The bounce for your posting and my posting get handled differently. I'd like someone to repair that. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Odd behaviour of some messages on the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup
In the past several weeks I have been seeing some SPAM messages advertising a financial website. All of the original posts have been about 3 lines long. (Some of the follow up discussion posts have been longer) But in the past couple of days I have seen several 3 line messages that are completely blank, No content and not even a header, if I try ^u to list the message source. Are these messages that have been removed by the moderator, who for some reason did not completely clean up after removing the article? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Spurious e-mail bounce messages when posting to the newsgroup.
In another thread, Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-10-26 11:18 PM, NoOp wrote: On 11-10-26 1:55 PM, NoOp wrote: Well... I usually snip/trim according to: http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html But in the past I've gotten into some pretty nasty discussions with the powers to be here (read that as the list mom) over me requesting others trim etc. (Archives). Starts here: Message-ID:picdnarftsflxybtnz2dnuvz_jsdn...@mozilla.org [Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen] where I politely asked: Pleease trim your posts. You guys went from 29 lines to 41, 69, 81, 99, 107, 122 and 131. and ended up on mozilla.general Thanks. The person in that thread is Jay Garcia. I've sent him a message about the rules. I also want to make it clear to everyone here that Jay is not a moderator in any of the support newsgroups. The support-seamonkey list owners are listed at https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey, and I'm a newsgroup moderator per http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/cancellation.html. If you see anyone otherwise trying to act like a moderator, they're not. Well Chris, You are a list mom and not an owner or administrator for mozilla.support.seamonkey, and have previously written about how powerful you are with your fingers on the kill switch, so make yourself useful by drawing the attention of someone who can fix it, to the following problem. Since Oct. 14, *each* time that I post to mozilla.support.seamonkey, I have been getting a mail bounce message like: === .. Received: from fts.vcl.sld.cu by fts.vcl.sld.cu (via RAW) (MDaemon PRO v10.0.0) for urj...@bellsouth.net; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:34:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:34:46 -0400 From: MDaemon at fts.vcl.sld.cu mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Reply-To: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Subject: Your message can not be delivered To: urj...@bellsouth.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: urj...@bellsouth.net Message-ID: mdaemon0019201110141734.aa3446...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Actual-From: mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu X-Return-Path: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=1014-1734-46-PART-BREAK The following data may contain sections which represent BASE64 encoded file attachments. These sections will be unreadable without MIME aware tools. Seek your system administrator if you need help extracting any files which may be embedded within this message. --1014-1734-46-PART-BREAK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivery of the attached message: From : urj...@bellsouth.net To : dainie...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Date : Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:25:42 -0400 Subject: Re: What explains this? would violate local account restrictions. This message was not delivered. -- . Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ --- The latest bounce coming this evening ... Delivery of the attached message: From : urj...@bellsouth.net To : dainie...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Date : Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:19:39 -0400 Subject: Odd behaviour of some messages on the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup would violate local account restrictions. This message was not delivered. = Now Kai Ro wrote me that it isn't a newsgroup problem, but I can't believe him. So do make yourself useful and get this problem to the attention of the proper expert(s) within the Mozilla or SeaMonkey technical staff. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Issue: Need method to create one Email distribution list for a project instead of selecting single users one by one in the cc drop down box
shass...@wabtec.com wrote: Running version 3.4.8, We have a large group of users that need to be cc'ed on project defects. In the current version, one must individually pick out each person from the cc list in the defect. This is very time consuming and frustrating our defect submitters. One solution might be to have an outlook email list created and add that as a user to the system. Then, instead of picking out users one by one, the submitter would enter in the email distribution name. The downside of this is we have a lot of projects and to create a distribution requires a submittal to the IT depart. Would prefer a way to handle this in bugzilla. Does anyone know of a way to solve this issue? This email and any attachments are only for use by the intended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise private information. Any unauthorized use, reproduction, dissemination, distribution or other disclosure of the contents of this e-mail or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Have you tried the Mozilla add on called Mail Merge ? It is for SeaMonkey and Thunderbird , but might work for Bugzilla. You could ask the creator of this package. It allows building of mailing lists in CSV form and then I think that it sends individual emails to each person on the list. Hope that helps -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sm on disk ot can i make a disk???
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: km wrote: ... is this possible? can i order a disc with presets? how much??? No, you can't. Now hold on there Mr. Shagnasty! I smell an opportunity to make some $$$ Why don't we get beelzibub2 to describe what she wants for us. :-) -- Rostyk Ps. Does anyone know the latest status on the prophet, Harold Camping? :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: show this to your father (if i were allowed to come i could download it free/ no waiting)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: km wrote: Basic Shipping Info: ... Methinks you meant to send this elsewhere. No, no Mr. Shagnasty! Not beelzibub2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?
Rickles wrote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1. Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd never seen it before, until today. Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but today the house was empty all day I was the first home. Turned PC on and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour. Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway. Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder, empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any content--thread message panes were both blank. Assumed some background process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system idle time, and there was no network traffic. No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network. I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that. Suggestions? You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break. As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Tab or Page? which will it be?
SM 2.4.1 no customizations, on a WIN 7 system. If I left button click on a link, Where will the new content be displayed? - New page? - old page? - new tab? - old tab? How does one predict/guess ? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
What explains this?
I posted this: to the newsgroup. - From - Fri Oct 14 12:31:02 2011 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:31:01 -0400 From: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj urj...@bellsouth.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: Tab or Page? which will it be? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SM 2.4.1 no customizations, on a WIN 7 system. If I left button click on a link, Where will the new content be displayed? - New page? - old page? - new tab? - old tab? How does one predict/guess ? -- Rostyk = Then this mail bounce arrived unexpectedly in my mailbox: - From - Fri Oct 14 14:53:42 2011 X-Account-Key: account2 X-UIDL: AHlck0UAABXcTphlNwoMw16MNJM X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 1000 X-Mozilla-Keys: X-Apparently-To: urj...@bellsouth.net via 69.147.92.121; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:37:11 -0700 Received-SPF: pass (domain of fts.vcl.sld.cu designates 201.220.222.139 as permitted sender) X-YMailISG: UQtyimcWLDsz8QIu49Cc1OdDWfDT8ui2Hkep86xlzvdd8UYm qUU9b7ICMgM6TI09wqe7LHOyHTmlFk.c6PENY2PQwSLMoy5ZGLOl.MzdpSbM y6y_Fku2ivseEQi3ZMb1LZTsoCVV4G42awnOpzJrNo_Klb5xW56c_FoV37RF vUxDB4euufQ6X90E5HlrDi2LFUg1vbDf3ZG97M2AYWYUMvNnBpzsZ7WF2Joi ... snipped ... nY2JoLbTUD4o6YGO8yRKmwA6S7McdigiTiDqbcPaa_dYM0_EkrI9xWHewvog AUHeOH_JeTfSFPIykJBbd9D3PtcQryYxD2yvaQ5MfMkXwCD1djGnXjGw12wl g_OzB3KN6Vkgdt1yMskU.nUISMWB9g4VoPFYjEPo.FGd6rT7MQpnxnOJzg-- X-Originating-IP: [201.220.222.139] Authentication-Results: mta1071.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com from=fts.vcl.sld.cu; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=fts.vcl.sld.cu; dkim=neutral (no sig) Received: from 207.115.11.36 (EHLO fgateway06.isp.att.net) (207.115.11.36) by mta1071.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:37:05 -0700 Received: from cabrera.sld.cu ([201.220.222.139]) by isp.att.net (frfwmxc06) with ESMTP id 20111014163702M06006k3i2e; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:37:04 + X-Originating-IP: [201.220.222.139] Received: from [201.220.198.167] (helo=mx.vcl.sld.cu) by cabrera.sld.cu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu) id 1REkkl-0002Xv-H8 for urj...@bellsouth.net; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:36:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.vcl.sld.cu (iRedMail) with ESMTP id DBBE736EF9 for urj...@bellsouth.net; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:42:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx.vcl.sld.cu Received: from mx.vcl.sld.cu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.vcl.sld.cu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9n9l8hGH6slI for urj...@bellsouth.net; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fts.vcl.sld.cu (unknown [10.10.9.30]) by mx.vcl.sld.cu (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id DFF5736EE5 for urj...@bellsouth.net; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fts.vcl.sld.cu by fts.vcl.sld.cu (via RAW) (MDaemon PRO v10.0.0) for urj...@bellsouth.net; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:38:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:38:42 -0400 From: MDaemon at fts.vcl.sld.cu mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Reply-To: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Subject: Your message can not be delivered To: urj...@bellsouth.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: urj...@bellsouth.net Message-ID: mdaemon0042201110141238.aa3842...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Actual-From: mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu X-Return-Path: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=1014-1238-42-PART-BREAK The following data may contain sections which represent BASE64 encoded file attachments. These sections will be unreadable without MIME aware tools. Seek your system administrator if you need help extracting any files which may be embedded within this message. --1014-1238-42-PART-BREAK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivery of the attached message: From : urj...@bellsouth.net To : dainie...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Date : Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:31:01 -0400 Subject: Tab or Page? which will it be? would violate local account restrictions. This message was not delivered. -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ --1014-1238-42-PART-BREAK Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=md7500341.eml Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 UmV0dXJuLXBhdGg6IDxzdXBwb3J0LXNlYW1vbmtleS1ib3VuY2VzK2RhaW5p
Re: What explains this?
NoOp wrote: On 10/14/2011 12:28 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I posted this: to the newsgroup. - From - Fri Oct 14 12:31:02 2011 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:31:01 -0400 From: Rostyslaw Lewyckyjurj...@bellsouth.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: Tab or Page? which will it be? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SM 2.4.1 no customizations, on a WIN 7 system. If I left button click on a link, Where will the new content be displayed? - New page? - old page? - new tab? - old tab? How does one predict/guess ? Your question was posted below your sig... so I have to paste back to reply. == Is there some kind of a mailing list associated with the newsgroup? Even so shouldn't the mail bounce message have been sent to the list administrator, rather than to me? https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey Complain to: support-seamonkey-ow...@lists.mozilla.org To: NoOp Thank you for your Complain to: pointer. I have just received a second mail bounce message from the same source, so I think there's a problem somewhere. As to, Your question was posted below your sig... that is/was an artifact of me quoting the whole message that I had posted to the newsgroup , without removing the signature which was a part of the original posting. My humble and abject apologies. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What explains this?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I posted this: to the newsgroup. - [snip] SM 2.4.1 no customizations, on a WIN 7 system. If I left button click on a link, Where will the new content be displayed? - New page? - old page? - new tab? - old tab? How does one predict/guess ? I answered your question four hours ago, in the thread and under the Subject line of Tab or Page? which will it be?. Did you receive it? To: Mr. Shagnasty Yes, I saw your posting followup to Tab or Page. and Unless: ... d) other quirks So, one can only somewhat guess... :-) - The last line says it all! But the posting you are following up to concerned another matter. One relating to a mail bounce that I received referring to to my Tab or Page posting. I hope that you realized that. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What explains this?
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/14/11 12:28 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I posted this: to the newsgroup. - From - Fri Oct 14 12:31:02 2011 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:31:01 -0400 From: Rostyslaw Lewyckyjurj...@bellsouth.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: Tab or Page? which will it be? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SM 2.4.1 no customizations, on a WIN 7 system. If I left button click on a link, Where will the new content be displayed? - New page? - old page? - new tab? - old tab? How does one predict/guess ? You need to exercise patience. Three hours is not a long time to wait for an answer. See your prior message, where I gave you a step-by-step solution along with examples. Mr. Ross Please see NoOps' followups on this subject/topic. My What explains this posting concerned an unexpected *mail bounce* that I received referencing my newsgroup posting ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: AllState Web Site
Ant wrote: Is anyone else getting a XML error with SM2.0.14's web browser's real user agent on http://www.allstate.com/ ? It says: snip I had to fake with Firefox v3.6.8 to get rid of the error. I don't know if v2.1+ has this problem too since I have not upgraded yet. :P Windows 7 Ultimate and SM 2.3.3 and Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3 as copied from Help about SM Appears to load page Ok. i.e. No error except that the page renders with lots of text overlaying itself and such like. Must be something in the way I have selected fonts preferences. I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch is. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IN SHORT: SeaMonkey 2.4.1 released
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Hey, I just wanted to mention, semi-official-like that SeaMonkey 2.4.1 is now out. This fixes *only* the issue with addons disappearing that was also the cause of Firefox 7.0.1. I'll get a more official looking announcement up tomorrow, (today was my birthday, so prior plans occupied most of my day, and a bit of actual release work to make sure I could get this out). And we are quietly back to third level (x.y.z) bug fix releases of SM. :-) Keep them coming! Stretch out the intervals between (x.y) and (x.y+1), so that (x.y) might get better stabilized. After all an (x.y) product release is just the start of the (unofficial) gamma test phase :-) [Except, I know ... SM scheduling is tightly tied to the mozilla FF/TB product policies ] -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.4 Composer No Symbols
Jens Hatlak wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Hrm can you or someone file a bug, and mark Tracking SeaMonkey 2.5:? it is unfortunately too late to fix for SeaMonkey 2.4 :( Mark was faster than me, and there I cannot set the flag: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690267 Greetings, Jens Well since there are now several precedents for third level x.y.z bug fix releases. 2.4.1 being the latest. Then perhaps correct the chrome://editor/content/EdInsertChars.js file and release an SM 2.4.2, or issue a hot-fix patch and remember to do a permanent fix for 2.5, or some 2.4.y 2.4.1 . -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Controlling font size when composing email ?
Michael Gordon wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: When I'm reading email, or a news article,or a web page, I can increase of decrease the size of the displayed text with CTRL+ and CTRL-. Why is the same facility not available when I'm composing email? :-( For some encodings, I can set the font size using the fonts preference panel Editpreferencesappearancefonts, But this does not work for example for unicode-8. which is, understandably, not choosable via fonts-preferences. In that case one needs a straight magnification/contraction capability. In my case for unicode-8 the font chosen/used by the system is miniscule, and my sight is not all that good anymore. :-( Anyway it would be most convenient in other cases as well. Because when you are composing mail, or a web page you have already set the font size. You have already set the minium fort size to read a message, or web page. Try resetting Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts to what ever you want to read. Michael G Mr. Gordon Please try your own advice with messages that have unicode(UTF-8) as their encoding. :-) First to read and then to compose such. :-) Пане ґордон Будь ласка, спробуйте свою власну пораду на чимсь, що є в кодуванні Юнікод (UTF-8). Перше в читанні, а потім в складанні таких повідомлень, або листів. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Controlling font size when composing email ?
Jens Hatlak wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: For some encodings, I can set the font size using the fonts preference panel Editpreferencesappearancefonts, But this does not work for example for unicode(UTF-8). which is, understandably, not choosable via fonts-preferences. AFAIK, UTF-8 relates to either Other Languages or User Defined in the Fonts for drop-down. Relates? How? HTH It doesn't :-( I tried. Jens Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Controlling font size when composing email ?
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:42:00 -0400, /Rostyslaw Lewyckyj/: When I'm reading email, or a news article,or a web page, I can increase of decrease the size of the displayed text with CTRL+ and CTRL-. Why is the same facility not available when I'm composing email? :-( I've set to zoom in/out using Ctrl+mouse wheel (Preferences / Advanced / Mouse Wheel). Using it I can zoom in/out while composing just as with looking at pages. Дуже вам дякую. Виглядає що ваша порада вирішила проблему Thank you very much. It appears that your advice solves my problem. This workaround is a well hidden trick. i.e. connecting screen zoom to the mouse wheel. Now if it'd just get documented. So it wasn't just a trick someone discovered and remembered. Thanks once more. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Controlling font size when composing email ?
When I'm reading email, or a news article,or a web page, I can increase of decrease the size of the displayed text with CTRL+ and CTRL-. Why is the same facility not available when I'm composing email? :-( For some encodings, I can set the font size using the fonts preference panel Editpreferencesappearancefonts, But this does not work for example for unicode-8. which is, understandably, not choosable via fonts-preferences. In that case one needs a straight magnification/contraction capability. In my case for unicode-8 the font chosen/used by the system is miniscule, and my sight is not all that good anymore. :-( Anyway it would be most convenient in other cases as well. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [SM 2.3.3, Win7] Hung alert when Sending messages?
Ray_Net wrote: Daniel wrote: GerardJan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. Sometimes, like earlier this evening, when I send a message, SM will first put up an alert that it is sending the message, and then a second alert about copying the message, which I presume relates to copying the message to the sent folder, and this second alert gets hung and won't complete. The message shows up on the list of messages available from the newsgroup server, so I know it was sent. The message appears in the sent folder, and I can load it from there to check that it is complete. Yet the second alert gets hung, with the progress indicator going madly, over and over, from left to right in the progress bar . I have let it stay hung for a couple of hours until I finally pressed cancel. Where is the error? Who is failing to post completion, or who is failing to check the completion flag? Forget about this subject - it will never be corrected - It's the way SM works - Other mails clients did not exhibit such a problem. something wrong with your /smtp/ settings? Doubtful, otherwise it would happen every time! Correct, the problem is inside SM ... other mails clients responded appropriately with all scenarios of the smtp server. This bug will never be corrected, because, it's not reproductible. The only way of helping de SM developers is to furnish them the debug dialog of the discussions between SM and the smtp server. I doubt that this could be done by everyone. Well the bug doesn't bite *that* often. Seems that one would have to keep a continuous log of the SM--smtp server dialogue in anticipation of an error. It would slow SM down a fair bit. But couldn't they set up a test environment between two machines one running SM and the other acting as the server and let it run a test script? Oh well... I'm sure they have more pressing bugs to squash. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [SM2.3.3, Win7] View dropdown menu UI improvement ?
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:12:18 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:27:19 -0400, /Rostyslaw Lewyckyj/: On the third menu bar on the email screen there is a dropdown menu box called View: . You have three menu bars, really? Wow. Reading one of your other posts, I now realize you name all of the menu bar and the toolbars as menu bars. So you're really talking about the Mail Views widget on the default Search Bar toolbar (in my setup I don't have such one). Stanimir: Call them whatever you want. Perhaps I am not using the right terminology. On my screen: - The first line, menu bar, has : File, Edit, View, Options,... - The second line, menu bar, has: get msgs, compose,| Reply, Reply all, - The third line, I call it a menu bar, has: -- View: + drop down selection box, and -- 'Search Subject or Address' box, and -- and 'Advanced' button It is the View: + drop down selection box entry on the third line that I am referring to. Since you don't have this bar and widget, can you make any relevant comments anyhow? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[SM 2.3.3, Win7] Odd UI behaviour opening e-mail folders, and newsgroups, as tabs.
I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. My email/news display is set up to have a folder pane on the left and a messages pane on the right. The message reading area has been minimized. In viewlayout I have classic view + Thread pane + Folder pane selected. When I select a folder it opens and the messages available are listed in the right pane. When I select a message and CR or double click the message opens in full screen window and CTRL-W brings me back to the message pane. So far, so good. NOW if I choose a second folder and right click, and choose OPEN IN A NEW TAB. SM opens a new tab but the message pane layout has been split horizontally into a message list and a message reading area!! Moreover when I chose to open the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup folder the reading area displayed a header with a wavy blue line and a text of Welcome to Seamonkey ... and underneath a blurb about SeaMonkey features. It was not any of the newsgroup messages, and when I selected one of the other messages, I could not afterwards get back to this mysterious Welcome message. Now, of course, I can adjust/minimize the message pane But why does SM choose to open the tab in this fashion? Is this some recent improvement? or a coding error? -- Rostyk P.s. I hope my description is sufficiently clear for others to reproduce the behaviour. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[SM 2.3.3, Win7] Go Back and Go Forward arrows on the SM menu.
I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. On the second menu bar across the top of the email screen. The one starting with 'get msgs', in the third section, there appear two icons: a left pointing arrow labeled go back and a right pointing arrow labeled go forward. pointing to these brings up arrow head explanations of 'go back one message' and 'go forward one message' respectively. The drop down menus list what are supposed to be the most recent messages in each chain. However clicking on either the arrows or in their drop down lists behaves erratically. Sometimes the display brings up the indicated message, and sometimes does nothing, or brings up a different message. If clicked while in the message list (not message display) the message selection highlight also behaves erratically. I think there must be several bugs, errors, in the code of this 'feature'. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
What is the current status of SM upgrade/patch to 2.3.3 ?
This is probably for Mr. Callek. ?! You promised us an automatic (push type) upgrade patch to get to SM 2.3.3 (from ???). - I am on a WIN 7 system and was on SM 2.3.1. - I started getting an alert that the system wanted to run updater.exe from Mozilla when I started SM. - Well I allowed the update and then checked with Help About SeaMonkey But that is reporting that I am STILL at SM 2.3.1 - Doing a check for updates, returns that there are no updates. - But the site www.seamonkey-project.org shows a come-on to download - SM 2.3.2 (No mention of 2.3.3) So advise me how to get back on track and on the latest version? First - How do I determine the status of my SM version? What the heck is it? Then what should I do? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newsgroup posting ...
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:06:39 -0400, /km/: ... this may be stoopid but i'll never know unless i ask. are there any special privileges that pertain to newsgroup posting. i know html is allowed but are there NY OTHER 'THINGS' THAT MIGHT SPRUCE UP MY POATA OOPS HTML is allowed but not recommended. Writing in all-caps is considered shouting therefore not recommended, too. Using slang and abbreviations which are likely not understood by non-native English readers is not recommended, if you want your post/question reach wider audience. Graphics and audio may not be blocked, but are strongly discouraged. If needed to illustrate a problem, it is recommended that the graphics/ audio be posted to one of the special web sites and a link to the material be posted here. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.3.1. Problem displaying email headers in tabs
SM 2.3.1 on Win 7. I am trying compare possibly duplicate email messages by displaying them in side by side tabs. Here in detail is what I am doing: 1) I open the folder containing the suspect messages X , Y 2) I set header display to normal 3) I flag and tag X, so that it will stand out when I display/read it 4) I highlight and open X to verify that the last header line shown is Tags: and shows that the message is tagged. Then I close X 5) I do the same with Y, to verify that it is NOT tagged. 6) .0) Now I open X in a new tab, .1) Go back to the message listing tab .2) highlight message Y .3) Open Y in a new tab. But where has the Tags: line which marked message X to distinguish it from message Y gone??? I tried setting the header display to all, but that doesn't halp at all. The full header doesn't show a Tags: line. Of course my real problem is to compare the messages. So perhaps someone can suggest an easy, easier, way to do that. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 is now available as free downloads for Windows, Mac, and Linux from http://www.seamonkey-project.org. As always, we recommend that users keep up to date with the latest stability and support versions of SeaMonkey, and encourage all our users to upgrade to the very latest version. We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest releases. If you already have SeaMonkey, you will receive an automated update notification within 24 to 48 hours. SeaMonkey 2.3.2 revokes the root certificate for DigiNotar due to fraudulent SSL certificate issuance. For additional details, see http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/08/29/fraudulent-google-com-certificate. Note: All SeaMonkey users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to the latest SeaMonkey by downloading it from our website or by selecting “Check for Updates…” from the Help menu and clicking on “Update SeaMonkey”. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-31 Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic] After reading the other postings dealing with 2.3.2, I get the distinct impression that the botched 2.3.2 release was a *panic* Get it out the door quick, reaction to the recent security breach event. Will y'all fix 2.3.2 , and dot the ts and cross the is before re releasing? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
chicagofan wrote: Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search page. I have never been able to use this feature. Is this a problem with the SM Google access... or something else? The link for this option never shows up as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, I've never found a way to do it manually. Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature? I hope not... I'd really like to use it and would appreciate any advice. TIA bj Well, I suggest, that the first thing you should do, is to get on some computer that already has FF or Chrome (or IE) installed, such as for example in a library, and try to see if this feature actually exists. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
