Re[2]: Connection Centre layout - repost
On Thursday, May 03, 2001, 5:20:50 AM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: DAC As to esthetics, I like the British spelling of Centre, but DAC think you should go British on the whole name: Connexion Centre No, the correct British (I prefer English here) It's all English to me so British was intended to focus in on usage in the UK or what one might hear on the BBC, as opposed to what one might encounter in Sidney, Cape Town, Toronto or Chicago. I realize that on just the BBC, one might encounter Scots, Welch, etc. and it also sounds lots differentin Ireland. In that context London and Liverpool sound lots different. I remember a couple of occasions when I was little where I had to translate for my grandfather - Manx- actually I had to repeat for someone who was having trouble understanding my grandfather, although I don't think he was hard to understand but some people aren't willing or perhaps able to listen to anyone who sounds very different from them. The only time that I recall trying to carry out a conversation in English with another native English speaker was with a sailor from Jamaica who I was visiting with in Barcelona years ago. We found that his broken Italian and my broken Spanish worked better than our respective takes on the English language. *is* Connection Centre. Connexion is not even in the dictionary here. Here is what I found at http://yourdictionary.com attributed to the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary. Main Entry: con.nex.ion Pronunciation: k-'nek-shn chiefly British variant of CONNECTION also try http://www.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin/wn?connexion and check it here http://www.onelook.com I particularly like http://library.utoronto.ca/www/utel/ret/cawdrey_c.html which is from ROBERT CAWDREY'S A TABLE ALPHABETICAL (1604) -includes definition (English) (30KB, indexed 14.04.2001) Thanks to Raymond Siemens and I. Lancashire http://library.utoronto.ca/www/utel/ret/cawdrey0.html but you can't find it here http://dictionary.cambridge.org/notfound.asp?word=connexion At any rate, Connexion Centre just seems more elegant to me. I note that connexion and centre are both flagged by the spell checker here, but I guess it's an American English specific speller because colour is also a misspelling and so is organisation. If the unique English English spellings are disappearing from the English English dictionaries, I think that is too bad. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.52 Beta/13 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Connection Centre layout - repost
On Thursday, May 03, 2001, 8:54:32 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: guess I should proofread better before posting The only time that I recall trying unsuccessfully to carry out a conversation in English with another native English speaker was with a sailor from Jamaica who I was visiting with in Barcelona years ago. We found that his broken Italian and my broken Spanish worked better than our respective takes on the English language. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.52 Beta/13 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Connection Centre layout - repost
On Thursday, May 03, 2001, 10:21:39 AM, Kevin wrote: Not quite right, it has to do and to add: The British spelling variant stems from the French (does anyone remember William the Conqueror and 1066?). Well, I wasn't around then so I don't remember him or the year personally g. Centre is also the more French alternative to the American spelling of Center. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.52 Beta/13 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Bug report
Just now, I used the address book and my Mail Ticker was positioned so that it obscured the ok and most of the cancel buttons. I was not able to drag the ticker, and had to cancel, then move the ticker then reopen the address book. Not, obviously, an earth shattering problem, but it seemed worth noting. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Bug Fix Request
On Sunday, May 06, 2001, 6:50:43 AM, Andrew K. Lovetski wrote: Try the following work-around (it always works for me): Thanks. That does help. The first time I tried it, it suddenly highlighted the next folder down, but at least that way I could tell I would be dragging the wrong folder and avoided doing it. Not the final answer, but certainly a frustration saver. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.52c on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Old bug persisting: Disappearing From
On Monday, May 14, 2001, 11:27:06 AM, Nick Andriash wrote: Confirmed!! For the first time. This is it then. Confirmed here too, although the From: field doesn't all go away... The first letter of the From: line remains. ditto. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.52f on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: (bug?) Macros expanded regardless of %REM ?
On Tuesday, May 22, 2001, 10:21:17 PM, Thomas wrote: Don't you comment out lines in code when programming sometimes, instead of outright deleting them right away? I think the %REM macro should still ignore the command, and whatever is between the quote marks, as intended by Maxxx. that is sure what I would expect -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/8 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
vanishing column
Sorry about the double posting, but I think this should have gone here, not TBUDL. I just had a strange thing happen - or perhaps I just discovered a strange thing which had happened a while ago. Anyhow, I discovered that the Received column was missing from the folders in one of my accounts. When I right clicked and got the column setup dialog it was already one of the columns which was supposed to be there. I tried moving it to the end, and it did not reappear. I was able to remove it, close, reopen and re-install, and it is where it belongs now, or at least for now. It did not disappear from my other accounts. I have no idea how to recreate it, but since it was strange behavior, I thought I should report it. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/8 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: (bug?) Macros expanded regardless of %REM ?
On Tuesday, May 22, 2001, 11:11:37 PM, Nick Andriash wrote: I think the %REM macro should still ignore the command, and whatever is between the quote marks Why? The Macro was designed to add comments to a Template, and that is exactly what it does... and does well. You think it should do something in addition to that, but that's not what it was designed for if I understand the Macro's description. One reason one would use rem would be to rem out a line, or lines of code so they did not execute while debugging. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/8 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: (bug?) Macros expanded regardless of %REM ?
On Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 10:49:32 AM, Nick Andriash wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 22, 2001, at 9:30:51 PM, Thomas wrote: NA Why? The Macro was designed to add comments to a Template, and that NA is exactly what it does... and does well. No it doesn't. Thomas, what do you mean it doesn't? I certainly does work as advertised. Write yourself a *paragraph* if you like, include it within the quotation marks in the %REM Macro, and you will see not a word of it is visible when the Template is used. A comment is everything that is commented out. TB ignores the comment status of the argument and executes it anyway. This is a bug. It can only be a bug if it does not do what it was intended to do. Taking the literal meaning from Stef's writing, it allows people to put in a comment about the Template without that comment showing up. That it does. What you want it to do, or think it should do, is something totally different, and perhaps something you should submit as a feature request. A bug? No. A feature with limitations? Yes. ;o) I suppose this is getting to the point where it's just pointless argument, but I submit anyone who has ever written code for a living expects comment lines to not be processed, and that this is a bug. Why should a compiler be trying to interpret or execute comment lines? It should not. You should be able to put anything in there which helps you and others understand your coding now, or years from now, or cause actions to not take place yet leave the code there for later. It's a bug. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/8 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Extending logging
On Saturday, May 26, 2001, 9:36:13 PM, Lija wrote: RIT guys, if you read this, please do NOT add anymore features to Connection Centre! ;) I couldn't disagree more with the critics of the Connection Centre. It is a good thing, which needs some further refinement. It should keep displaying errors until cleared by the user. It should be easier to have visible while collecting mail. If it would show up automatically on screen instead of on the task bar it would be a good start. While Eudora has lots of faults, the way it handles error messages would be a good model to emulate in the Connection Centre. I guess if it looked pretty it would be nice, and it does have too much dead space in it, but it is a vast improvement over all the little windows stacked up on top of each other. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/8 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Extending logging
On Saturday, May 26, 2001, 10:23:37 PM, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: If you write them well, they will work excellent. No need for any tracking, just use your brain. :) To write things well, there needs to be debugging, and good debugging requires all the information you can get. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/8 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.53 Beta/11
On Monday, May 28, 2001, 1:51:16 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Hmmm. Let's hope it all works :-) Mail Ticker and Collection Centre are missing from the Options Menu. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! - suggestions: PGP Handling
On Monday, May 28, 2001, 2:06:04 PM, Nick Andriash wrote: Aha, the Promotion of PGP Signatures approach. Well sure, I want to promote the use of both PGP and GPG, and I fear that your proposal... although I understand your intent... will lead to many New Users simply utilising the approach you suggest and turning everything off. Out of sight... out of mind. If people need pgp, they will use it. TheBat! is supposed to be an e-mail client, not a propaganda vehicle. I'd think if anything the extra clutter when not needed is more of a turnoff than an encouragement. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.53 Beta/11
On Monday, May 28, 2001, 2:10:45 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: Collection Centre Actually, I do know what it's called (connexion center g) -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.53 Beta/11
On Monday, May 28, 2001, 2:25:18 PM, Juergen Frisch wrote: Mail Ticker and Collection Centre are missing from the Options Menu. Look here: Options | Preferences | General Thanks. Actually, as often as I change the Centre setting I liked it better when it was more accessible. Eventually, when it works like it should, the new place will be a good spot for it. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Connection Center
On Friday, June 08, 2001, 6:04:25 PM, David van Zuijlekom wrote: M An idea that came into my mind upon seeing this is like that: the M CC would get "on top" with manual checking of mail, but stay "on M bottom" with periodical checks. Additionally, it would REMAIN open M (even if all its tasks were already finished/killed) if there was M an error in any of them. This would, then, be a good place to add M a behaviour so that an "errored" account would NOT disappear from M the CC, but instead remain there to be inspected. Yeah that seems logical to me. That's about the behaviour I would like to see in the next version. I like to have the CC in the background when periodical checking, and on top with manual checking. I think that would work for me. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 RC/2 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: one of the minor bugs
On Saturday, June 09, 2001, 12:55:23 PM, Screwyluie wrote: TF ACK. I brought up the about screen by way of Help / About, but it TF wouldn't close when I hit esc. I had to restart TB. hmm you're running win98, and as I don't have win98 to test on it might be the OS, but it works fine on mine, esc closes the about dialog and so does clicking on it No problem either way with my ME machine -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 RC/3 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: RC/3
On Saturday, June 09, 2001, 6:57:22 PM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: DAC bat_del.exe 36352 6/9/2001 3:53 PM 37888 DAC thebat.exe3832832 6/9/2001 3:53 PM 3960320 These are are the two sizes that differ from mine. I downloaded winRAR, and looked in the executable. The sizes there square with the sizes above. So do yours. How??? Yours are from the first install, mine from the second one which was put up later in hopes of correcting the problem. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 RC/3 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: RC/3
On Saturday, June 09, 2001, 11:56:02 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC bat_del.exe 36352 6/9/2001 3:53 PM 37888 DAC thebat.exe3832832 6/9/2001 3:53 PM 3960320 These are are the two sizes that differ from mine. In Peter's original message the numbers from my columns and those in his were directly aligned. When I replied, an extra was placed on each line. Why did that skew the columns? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 RC/3 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: RC/4
On Sunday, June 10, 2001, 3:00:32 PM, Günther Eisele wrote: [*] Ctrl+Enter hotkey in the message editor is now used accordingly to the delivery type (immediate/deferred) No. It doesn't work. It does simply nothing. In addition, the first two buttons changed their position, and the shortcuts aren't in the menus anymore. F2 still works (although not mentioned in the menu). if this message went out, ctrl-enter sends immediately, because I intend to catch it and stop it in the outbox. Nope, can add that when I hit ctrl-enter, that pulled down the -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 RC/4 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: RC/4
On Sunday, June 10, 2001, 3:00:32 PM, Günther Eisele wrote: [*] Ctrl+Enter hotkey in the message editor is now used accordingly to the delivery type (immediate/deferred) No. It doesn't work. It does simply nothing. In addition, the first two buttons changed their position, and the shortcuts aren't in the menus anymore. F2 still works (although not mentioned in the menu). -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 RC/4 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: RC/4
On Sunday, June 10, 2001, 3:41:38 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: [*] Ctrl+Enter hotkey in the message editor is now used accordingly to the delivery type (immediate/deferred) No. It doesn't work. It does simply nothing. In addition, the first two buttons changed their position, and the shortcuts aren't in the menus anymore. F2 still works (although not mentioned in the menu). if this message went out, ctrl-enter sends immediately, because I intend to catch it and stop it in the outbox. Nope, can add that when I hit ctrl-enter, that pulled down the sorry, this message (and another I still haven't gotten back) got away while I was still fiddling with them during an periodic check. I was trying to describe what did happen, which was more than the nothing reported by Günther Eisele, but worthy, I think, of description. The first time I hit ctrl-enter, I got the Message pull down menu, this present me the choice of sending or queueing the message. I hit esc to get back to the message, started describing, and hit ctrl-enter to get the pull down again, because I wasn't sure whether I got the whole menu or just the send and save options. Instead of getting the pulldown, the message went to the outbox, which it evidently should since the account is set to defer sending. I have now hit shift-f2 and was given a menu asking me if I wanted to send. I cancelled, came back to say what happened, and will now send. (the shortcuts are still in my menu) -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 RC/4 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.53 Release
On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, 2:15:54 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: The deadline has been reached tonight. We have to switch to a side project for a couple of weeks, so please accept our apology if something was not fixed/added during this beta circle - especially the beep when moving to the next/previous unread message in other folder (I personally promise to re-implement it in a way most people like). I would like to thank all people here for the great job - this cycle was one of the best I ever had. I hope Max would agree with me. :-) Thank you. My complementsw. It seems to me great progress has been made, even though not everything everyone wanted happened. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 RC/5 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: copy/paste of filter rules flaw
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, 3:41:10 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: 'Twas Brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; all mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. I thought this was an English list g -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Writing in one account,sending from another - was - Re: 1.53 Release - too fast again!!
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, 3:46:22 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: Sounds exactly like you need the Options/Active account selection. I'm not finding it. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Writing in one account,sending from another - was - Re: 1.53 Release - too fast again!!
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, 4:33:45 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: Sounds exactly like you need the Options/Active account selection. DAC I'm not finding it. when creating new mail :-) Too many places to look for different menus g. The active account selection appears to work with a new message, but a not in a reply. At least it doesn't change the signature or template like it does with a new message. I tried to change active accounts with this message, and if this is the last paragraph, it works. Well, when I change the active account, it sends ok via my current ISP, but!!! the list bounces it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a moderator or member of this list. Only a moderator or member may post to this list. is what I just got back in my swbell.net inbox. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: 1.54 Beta/3 - the show goes on :-)
On Friday, July 20, 2001, 5:35:37 PM, SyP wrote: + Menu Navigator (next to the Minimize button) what are you talking about? I'm not finding it. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/3 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: HTML msg lets TB! hang
On Wednesday, August 01, 2001, 10:51:28 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: MTthis (SPAM, I know)-msg lets the internal HTML-viewer of TB! hang. 1.) Confirmed 2.) W2K makes it with a little bit luck possible to prevent a total crash *g* 3.) 2. is no excuse for the bug *LoL* 4.) done some research what could have caused a 'JPG Err#53.' with a following 'Access violation at address 0050092C. Read of address 0011.' There're some 'img height=1 width=1' tags in the mail ... maybe TB! crashes because 'src' is missing? Anybody else something that could help? The last couple of days, I have encountered several messages which cause this behavior. (Most are from Slate.com, although not all their html mail causes this. I haven't posted because I thought it was probably the previously reported problem with access violations. If it would be helpful I would be able to go back and find the offending messages and forward some or all of them. I have been able to 'end task' and close TB! that way without having to do a cold boot most of the time. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Windows XP Professional anyone?
On Wednesday, August 01, 2001, 12:04:05 PM, Sashka wrote: Beta2 of xp pro is way to old. i'm using thebat on winxp at home (rc2) and no problems so far. It looks like you are both running the same build. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem with jpg error with pointer in my folder = thought to be htmlrelated
I have been having trouble for some time with some of the emails from Slate Magazine. I get the jpg error, and when I hit ok, a few of the messages display correctly, but most do the cascading violation message until I kill TB! in the close program dialogue. Until today, when TB! reopens, since the pointer in the all the folders remembers where it was at on the last clean exit, the folder where Slate messages go opens fine, pointing to some relatively correctly behaving message. Well, this morning, the pointer is on a message which crashes TB! as soon as one opens the folder. Is there a way to get that pointer to highlite a different message, or delete the offending message without opening the folder, or do I have to wait for the next Beta to finally be released and hope that bug if fixed? And isn't a new beta about due?? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report
On Tuesday, August 07, 2001, 10:31:37 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: Second this is an issue of shorten folder names as they're nested in 4th level, and longer name requires wider column and I want to keep it as small as possible :-) drop the vowel and just make it snt. You can often drop a vowel or so to make folder names shorter -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with jpg error with pointer in my folder = thought to be html related
On Monday, August 06, 2001, 10:16:02 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: I have been having trouble for some time with some of the emails from Slate Magazine. I get the jpg error, and when I hit ok, a few of the messages display correctly, but most do the cascading violation message until I kill TB! in the close program dialogue. [snip] And isn't a new beta about due?? Fantastic. Beta 5 seems to have resolved this problem. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/5 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: New mail server from RITLabs
On Friday, August 10, 2001, 5:50:12 AM, Thomas F wrote: TF again. Again nothing. I believe batpost is selective in TF recipient domains somehow. ;-) MDP It may be that dutaint is being selective - if RDNS doesn't quite pan MDP out, the messages may be bouncing. Just a thought. TF Syafril, do you know about bounces in realtion to batpost.com? Maybe TF reverse lookup does work or so? Wouldn't one have to be subscribed at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before one could post from that address? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
new mail server What should we be testing
If there have been any suggestions on what kind of things would be most helpful in running batpost.com, I've missed it. What kind of authentication settings should we be using? Is just getting mail all we need to do at this point, or is there more? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/5 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: ticker misbehaving when duplicates killed
On Tuesday, August 14, 2001, 2:21:01 PM, Screwyluie wrote: I was wondering if it's ISP based problem or if it's TB! not marking and deleting the messages from the server properly? I leave my mail for 3 days before I delete, so that I can collect it at home and office, and I usually don't have any problems. The Connection Centre has been acting up lately though, and occasionally hangs. I think I had reported this in connection with apparent memory problems a few betas back so I haven't posted about it lately. Yesterday, it hung a couple of times after showing 1 of 1 or two of two messages downloaded, with a downloaded size a little larger than the size it said the message was, and just sat there. When the other memory related problem arose, of not showing messages when I changed folders, I couldn't exit since CC was closed. I had intended to post about that but by the time I managed to get my computer to reboot and end task for TB! I got sidetracked with something actually work related and didn't get it done. Any way, I seem to be rambling here, but it was after one if these escapades that all 220 messages were seen as new when I booted back up. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/6 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: html - this message crashes beta 7
On Tuesday, August 21, 2001, 6:35:10 AM, Lars Geiger wrote: DAC stumbled into this old message which starts cascading error DAC message. Oh yes, it does... :-( What about MIME-forwarding as it was suggested earlier??? I thought I knew how to MIME forward, but obviously I don't. Here is how I tried to do so. MIME encoding is the default setting for attachments. I saved message.htm as crashesbat.htm, then attached the file, assuming it would be encoded as provided in the properties for my account. Oviously it did not get encoded. Please advise what the proper steps are to encode an attachment. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: List down ?
On Wednesday, August 29, 2001, 6:30:02 AM, Martin Schoch wrote: Yes, the message about SPAM came back to me two times. confirmed here. I just killed 5 dups -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: html
On Wednesday, August 29, 2001, 1:43:06 PM, -=/ Cees /=- wrote: DH Go to Options/Preferences/General and disable Show HTML DH automatically. Great! I never noticed that option... that really does a neat trick! DH Then go to Options/Preferences/Viewer and choose the DH PTV as standard viewer. This of course I already knew. I like the rich text viewer, without the HTML messages. I have it set so that the message displays in comic sans, and the quotes in arial, and find it much easier on the eyes than the PTV fixed width fonts. Right now, I have HTML showing automatically since it seems to be part of the drill for beta testing, but I often have to switch away from the HTML to read the messages, because of long lines all the way across the screen. I know for me reading the rich text viewer is easier, because of the contrast with the fixed width I'm looking at while composing messages. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Not able to close TB! though it's running just fine
On Sunday, September 16, 2001, 8:33:44 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: Has anyone been having trouble exiting TB! after it's been running for a while? I've been having to use the taskmanager to kill TB! on a couple occasions today. Right now, I cannot exit TB! though things seem otherwise OK. I find that almost always when this happens Connection Centre is running. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: Windows XP appearance issues
On Friday, September 21, 2001, 2:30:06 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: AS http://www.btinternet.com/~thebrixton/tbxp.png This link seems to be broken. Anyone else been able to load it? try again. it worked for me. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/9 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: BUG ? Beta 10e and Attachments
On Friday, November 16, 2001, 10:33:10 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: Maxim did tell about the new beta on list, what makes it public, but it wasn't announced as a public beta. actually he sent a message directed to one person concerning whether it fixed one bug, and we all rushed to download it. I haven't had any troubles with it except the editor problems I've already reported, except for one message yesterday from SLATE which displayed in a larger point size than normal. I went back thru several days worth of the same document (todays papers) and it's the only one that acts that way. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/10e on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: (no subject)
On Friday, November 16, 2001, 1:39:52 PM, -=/Cees/=- wrote: minimized firing up doesn't work anymore. Anyone else experienced this? TB remains on the taskbar, and after clicking on it, it minimizes. Weird what is nt 5.1 build 2600? I've noticed some strange behavior similar to what you describe since installing XP. Actually what I get, but don't notice is a very small amount of the active title bar sitting right above the start button. Hitting the restore up button gets me back where I want to be. I have been having similar misbehaviors with other programs, where I will do something and it behaves as if I had hit the minimize button. I was attributing it to XP not TB! added: just now, when I hit the put letter in the outbox button, TB! was reduced to a flying bat in the system tray. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/10e on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: %Calc (was: beta/10)
On Tuesday, October 09, 2001, 2:32:25 PM, MaXxX wrote: And it all works without typing in the macro name. Wow, TB has just become a calculator. The first email-calculator in the world. ;-) ... which is what has me worried, too. I can't seem to force my ideas forward (an email-filtering scripting language, for starters, or a renewed %macro() syntax which would enhance the present %macro=%in_macro='s), and here the creators come up with something even I, a maniac at putting weird stuff into even weirder uses, can't find a logical use for. It COULD be used for counting stuff into variables and storing them into some file - but we don't have ANY kind of variables, or file access, do we... While I don't intend to tread on your wish list in any way, I must say that had I had it, I would have used the calculator twice yesterday and saved quite a bit of time and hassle in the process. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/10 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/9 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - bug report: Date/Time macro
On 30 Nov 2001, 10:01:13 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: Well, maybe they are not for public access at the moment? If they make it into the beta file in /pub/ I'd think that meant they intended to distribute them. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/13a on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Folders outside accounts not retaining column settings
On 30 Nov 2001, 11:09:50 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: Folders outside accounts are not retaining column settings between restarts. I also lost my memo column. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Common folders - making them better
On 2 Dec 2001, 6:43:47 AM, Allie C Martin wrote: While using common folders for the first few days, I never deleted messages from any of them or replied to messages within any of them. I did hit the reply button on a few to see how it would be handled and the default account for mailto: URLs was the account associated with the message upon checking the status line in the editor window of the reply message. This would have been a good working solution. That pretty much has to be the way it handles which account it uses to send replies. This is important for mailing list replies, since if it used a different account for replies many would bounce because sender would not be a subscriber. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Cannot move an account folder into common folders
On 2 Dec 2001, 7:13:17 AM, Allie C Martin wrote: DAC Yes, and the file is there. But it should show up as a separate DAC tab in the message window, and it should show up in the DAC attachment column. It is doing neither. Is this related to the DAC posts about attachments disappearing on outgoing mail? I don't know, but my question was a bug tracking one. I was thinking that the only way the attachment icon would disappear is if the link to the attachment was somehow lost. Since I don't have the problem while storing attachments within messages and TB! has to maintain links with attachments stored externally, then a bug may have arisen in the linking process. Something for them to work with. Understood. I dragged the folder Mailing Lists from the account where it was lodged to the area above all my accounts, making it a Common Folder. (I did this BEFORE your message came where the attachment link vanished.) Your message above prompted me to scroll down my TBBETA folder looking for messages with attachments. At each one a passed, as soon as I focused on that message the attachment icon vanished. It would appear to be a common folder bug. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/15 - New Filter Dialogue
On 6 Dec 2001, 7:00:01 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: this is a interface of new filtering system, which is under development. It will not be implemented to 1.54 version. You can see, what will be included, but it is not functional. they are just teasing us -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On 16 Dec 2001, 8:10:40 AM, Maurice Snellen wrote: Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/16a on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 what is beta 16a? Don't find it on in ftp site? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/16 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Configuration Dialog for Common Folders
On 19 Dec 2001, 7:45:46 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: What about the 'compress all folders upon exit' option, as I remember, this option was already added to Account properties. The problem is there is no account properties dialogue for the common folders. You cannot even empty the common trash folder on exit unless your focus is on that folder when you quit. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/16a on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Thread by Subject/Sort by Date Obscures New Messages
On 19 Dec 2001, 8:15:19 AM, Allie C Martin wrote: Are there those who would wish to sort in *ascending* order of date and yet wish for the oldest message to be at the top? My general practice is to sort by created time, with the newest on top. But when I toggle to threaded view to put a message in context, it seems logical to me that the thread be headed by the message which began it. As a thread grows, there are answers to third generation messages which are later than answers to 5th generation messages. What does the sorting do when there are multiple messages with identical date and time from different branches of the thread of you try to display from bottom up. Admitted this won't happen often, but since it can happen the code would have to deal with it. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/16a on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
On 19 Dec 2001, 9:56:56 PM, Dimitry Andric wrote: Do other people with the pause problem have CPU-consuming tasks running in the background? that is at least when I notice it -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
On 19 Dec 2001, 9:49:13 PM, Thomas F wrote: ST We have to release a new version in a couple of days, so please ST do not blame us if there will be unfixed (long-standing) bugs ST in the release version Sorry, I have no understading for this policy. Should I warn the poor folks on the German lists that the new version contains known bugs but has been released nevertheless (if you do deicde to make this fatal marketing mistake)? Please fix the bugs first, and then release. I can with no good conscience recommend a buggy program. I guess I can't even imagine what is about to happen. Are we talking about releasing a version 1.54? If this is true it's crazy. 1.54 is not yet ready for prime time! Are you talking about releasing this as 2.0? If that is true, TheBat! is about to self destruct. The 1.54 Beta has great promise. I see lots of good things starting to fall into place. BUT it still has too many incomplete additions and rough edges. Common folders are going to be good, but right now they are not there yet. The same is true of lots of things happening here. People who don't like betas until they are pretty solid would do well to move to 1.54 by now. People who resist all betas will be very unhappy with 1.54, because it will be clear that it is really just a beta not a perfected thing. Don't do it. Please. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On 22 Dec 2001, 10:05:14 AM, Nick Andriash wrote: Steps to reproduce the bug: Attemp to change the Folders Pane font, but when presented with the list of fonts available, hit _Cancel_ instead. not confirmed here -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Sorting when threading by Sender is activated
On 22 Dec 2001, 5:40:40 PM, Ron Mura wrote: The way it's being done is illogical. Here is the way a 5-message thread is being sorted with V1.54 beta 19: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:19:55 EST Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:07:38 EST Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:34:08 EST Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:34:49 -0500 Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:49:29 EST what do you do with this? first message 1800 reply 1,1 1820 reply 1,2 1830 reply 1,1,1 1831 reply 1,2,1 1835 reply 1,1,1,1 1840 reply 1,2,1,1 1840 reply 1,2,1,2 1840 reply 1,3 1840 -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: GUI Problems with Beta 19
On 22 Dec 2001, 6:23:38 PM, Ron Mura wrote: - When I click the small carat to the right of the Get New Mail and Send Queued Mail buttons, nothing happens. The drop-down list of accounts does not appear. This problem was introduced in beta 19. Can anyone confirm? not confirmed -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On 22 Dec 2001, 6:12:22 PM, Alexander Leschinsky wrote: NA Alright, there have been enough Win 98 User confirmations to say NA this is indeed a bug. However, if RITLabs do not have a Win98 NA machine to test it on, I don't see how it will ever be resolved. NA :o( XP and 2000 (some installations) affected too... I don't remember anyone with any NT confirming -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On 22 Dec 2001, 10:56:16 PM, Alexander Leschinsky wrote: DAC I don't remember anyone with any NT confirming I have different sources... :-)... Report in Russian useless here :-(, but on my translated posting Can anybody made some additional tests I receive Reproduced using recipe, W98 - 2, 2000 - 1, XP - 1... I noticed whose post I had replied to soon after hitting send. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Current bugs
On 23 Dec 2001, 4:30:44 AM, Thomas F wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 02:30:58 -0600 GMT (23/12/2001, 16:30 +0800 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC common trash folder does not empty or compress, unless it is the DAC focus, on exit Not confirmed. Just ran a test, placed a few message in the Trash folder, set Properties to Keep 0 days, On exit: Purge, Compress. On reading this message, I had 16 messages in common trash folder. On closing and reopening, the trash emptied. Got one new message in trash. So closed again. It's still there, as you can see in the attachment 'after2' so I guess it empties sometimes. Then I focused on another folder in another account, closed TB, reopened, and the common trash was empty. DAC common folders do not remember column settings from session to session Not confirmed. Set the columns to weird sizes, closed TB, reopened, the column sizes were still weird. I changed width of subject column and added column for memo. See 'before' Closed and reopened. See 'after1'. width change didn't take, and memo column is gone again. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT version 5,1 After1.png Description: PNG image after2.png Description: PNG image Before.png Description: PNG image
Re: Still present...
On 23 Dec 2001, 8:24:43 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: No, can't find it anywhere. I have none of the problems with the CC locking up after send and receive. I just can't find the check box to tell it to auto disconnect. Seems to be an XP issue. See my attached PNG. Mine both look like Tony's. XP and 98se -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Sorting when threading by Sender is activated
On 24 Dec 2001, 11:19:50 AM, Boris Golberg wrote: You are talking about treading by references (or standard). We was talking about treading by from (or another nonstandard). Sorry. I never imagined such a thing as threading by from. After looking at it, I can see why it never occurred to me. Different threading have different logic and should be treated differently. I don't see the logic of threading like this at all. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On 27 Dec 2001, 9:46:41 AM, David van Zuijlekom wrote: AL AFAIR, it can be related to old (fixed) bug for long compression AL proc Win2000 shutdown don't wait and kill TB on the fly and AL damage folders I experienced this two days ago. I shutdown Win2k with TB! in the system tray. Then TB! started compressing the folders and apparently it took too long for windows so it killed TB!. Luckily no folders were damaged. If this is what is happening, seems like Windows is the problem not TB! In XPh, I get a box which says that some program is taking a while to finish, and so windows is waiting. It gives you a button you could press to kill the program if you like. I wait, bat finishes and windows goes on and closes. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Window Focus Problem Still Present in Beta 20
On 31 Dec 2001, 3:34:00 PM, Alexander Leschinsky wrote: TF (There seem to be people who have downloaded the unannounced beta. TF Some users never learn.) Well, I'm a Kamikaze! :-) and it's _my_ choice It still won't show common folders, so it's no use to me. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/Abacus on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Recognize URL failed
On 11 Jan 2002, 1:27:57 PM, Martin Schoch wrote: Send your information directly to your service dep. URL:http://www.domain.com/service/ As you can see: The http://; isn't underlined and recognized as URL - with both viewers. The problem seems to be that the address starts url: INSTEAD OF http:. http://www.domain.com/service/ gets underlined fine. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/Abacus on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.54 Beta/27 Serial Number 46DE1F1B under Windows NT 5.1 Build 2600 and would like to report a bug The bug description: I realize there is no official release of this beta, but I'm reporting anyway. Reply icon, F4 and Alt F4 all do not work. When I use any of those methods to try to reply in this beta I get only On 11 Jan 2002, 1:18:36 PM There is no john doe wrote, and there is no signature block. Steps to reproduce the bug: Use the reply button, or the key board short cut to reply or to reply with quoted text. (or reply to all or forward) Regards, Dwight A Corrin -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Recognize URL failed
On 11 Jan 2002, 1:38:22 PM, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: MS Send your information directly to your service dep. MS URL:http://www.domain.com/service/ MS As you can see: The http://; isn't underlined and recognized as MS URL - with both viewers. I already reported this sometime ago. In the mean time I read somewhere that this is RFC standard for putting URLs to e-mails... Which is the RFC standard? I find that in OE 5, it lops off the and and underlines it, and in OE 6 it underlines within the and , but Eudora 5.1 treats it the same at TB! -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/Abacus on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: printing
On 12 Jan 2002, 8:40:21 AM, Pete wrote: Replying with a selected part of a message (F4) is a breeze. Something like that should be possible for printing, too. It should work for reply to all first, then to printing. Maybe they can add both together. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/Abacus on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/27 - Message Columns do not retain new settings
On 12 Jan 2002, 1:21:35 PM, Terry L Fritts wrote: In Beta/27 I can modify the Message column headings either by adding or removing a column. The change then displays correctly. However, when I move to a folder in the account and then back to the account itself the change has been discarded and no longer displays correctly. Likewise if I move to a different account and back the change has been discarded. This is probably not a bug. Each account has its own default folder settings, assuming you have some or all of your folders marked to use default settings. Changing any folder so marked will change the column settings for all folders in that account. When you move folders from account to account or in out of the common folders you are probably picking up new defaults. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/Abacus on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Just my POV
On Sunday, January 20, 2002, 10:03:21 PM, Thomas F wrote: I'll be leaving this list in a few days for a two-months vacation. have a good one I think beta/30 is pretty good, except for three things: The new sorting office and the AV plug-in funcitonality are not ready and will probably have to wait for a later release, and the other bugs in the ConCen are not so serious. Anybody has another serious bug in mind that *must* be fixed before the next release (show stoppers), in addition to the above three? I think you have it nailed pretty good. With some luck, I'll have a new release version with these three items fixed on my HD before I pack up my home PC in 2 days or so. hint ;-) and we'll be up to 1.55 b/3 by the time you get back from vacation g -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/30 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: SmartPad get out.
On Sunday, January 20, 2002, 6:23:31 PM, Aleks wrote: CBC i think like that too, it is little slow.. and also minimize CBC commandline parameter start maximized, then minimizes.. could CBC someone fix this ? by the way, The Bat! is a great proggy.. AH For me TheBat! take too much time to start, I don't want a new AH Outlook or Eudora: Bug/heavy application. tx IMHO, if it takes long time to start, there is few ways to resolve this issue: 1. remove all junk messages you might have 2. upgrade your harddrive to faster (ie 7200rpm, 1rpm, 15000rpm) 3. try de-fragmenting harddrive I'm just reinstalling everything, so things are still pretty clean, but I have more than 30,000 messages in seven accounts and about 100 to 150 folders, and TB! opens in under 3 seconds. If that is slow to you, I'd sure like to know what word processor and spread sheet you are using which opens at a rate you like. The bat seems lightning fast to me. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/30 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: delete msg from server - BUG?
On Wednesday, February 6, 2002, 9:48:55 AM, Thomas Speer wrote (on TBUDL): I'm cross posting because I think this is a beta list topic, not TBUDL, but I don't know if participants in the tread are on both lists. Meanwhile I tested with 1.54 Beta36 and it still doesn't delete any messages from the server. I downloaded 4 new messages then deleted them - and just to be sure also deleted the contents of ALL folders. But they still remain on the server. Just that they aren't marked as new anymore. I tried with POP3 (qpopper 2.53-5) and Imap (uw-imapd 4:2001adebian-5). There must be something I am doing wrong. Please help, Andy. It is working here with gmx! I haven't tested this at all, and perhaps I should have before even chiming in, but here goes: Does it make a difference whether the messages are deleted from the account trash file or the common trash file? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/36 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Several bugs persistent
On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, 1:02:36 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote: 4. When clicking into the folder tree it still (sometimes) jumps to the left leaving one with a lot of white space and just a number (of messages). I have my folder tree wide enough to avoid this problem, but I notice that no matter how wide I stretch it, it continues to have an horizontal scroll bar (which is NOT proportional). The message list horizontal scroll bar is also not proportional, although the message window one is if I squeeze enough to create one. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/40 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Beta 40 - Don't download!!
On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, 1:04:36 PM, Sam wrote: I downloaded Beta 40 and I have no trouble with crashing on start-up (using WinXP). One problem I have is that the minimize button does not work. I can go from Normal window to Maximized window, but the miminize to task bar does not work at all. Not duplicated here on XPh. It minimizes fine. (also opens and closes very quickly) -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/40 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Several bugs persistent
On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, 1:12:53 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: 4. When clicking into the folder tree it still (sometimes) jumps to the left leaving one with a lot of white space and just a number (of messages). I have my folder tree wide enough to avoid this problem, but I notice that no matter how wide I stretch it, it continues to have an horizontal scroll bar (which is NOT proportional). I have to retract this. I minimized maximized closed and reopened seeing if I could confirm some of those other complaints, and now the scroll bar below the account tree will go away. (strange) -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/40 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
finding lost folders
I just did a sync between two installations. I had added some common folders to one since the last sync. These disappeared from the installation where they originally appeared and doing ctrl-alt-shft-L did not find them. I fiddled around, and even set listing of the mail folder next to the account tree in TB! to confirm to myself that they did exist. Still no luck with finding them. Finally, I shifted focus to the folder where the missing folders were nested and they were found. folder a folder a/1 folder a/2 folder a/3 folder b folder b/1 folder b/2 folder b/3 It seems to me that you should not have to be focused in the folder b nest before lost folder b folders get found. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/45 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Bug or my mistake?
On Tuesday, March 5, 2002, 9:26:14 AM, James Senick wrote: I use the full name for the benefit of those who scour the archives, myself included. The problem with that is that many of us have the distance from the margin where a will be treated as marking a quote set too narrow for the long names you are using. Therefore they don't get marked as quotes and it's confusing. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/45 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/46
On Thursday, March 7, 2002, 1:44:52 PM, Jernej Simoni wrote: DH So the questing: You are sure you are not need to verify the DH priority settings on you ToDo list? AFAIK, to get XP themes to work, you just need to add a component to the form in Delphi... That's 5 seconds' work... seems pretty reasonable to think this is something which needs doing before final release, so why not now? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/46 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/46
On Thursday, March 7, 2002, 10:09:42 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: ST [*] Modern look-and-feel under XP. At least under XP, I got column problems. Please see the small screenshot (6.17 kB) ... Could you please switch the skin to XP skin and test it? have to plead ignorance. what is xp skin? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/46 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Beta 49: RTV memory leak gone
On Friday, March 15, 2002, 12:43:20 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote: In the last few days I already had the idea to make a small poll about when TB! is ready for the next release. And - as mentioned above - my biggest concern was the memory leak. I fully concur. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/49 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Poll: Bug collection
On Sunday, March 17, 2002, 7:16:51 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote:
DAC why does the RTV need a cursor? It shouldn't have one since you
DAC can't do anything with it anyway.
But you can't select and copy with help of keyboard too this way.
It's sometimes annoying to grab for the mouse just to select a part of
the text if you want to reply by using F4 :-/
I realized that later, I think when I read the post I think from Nick
about being a mouser (which I thought was a characteristic limited to
house {and especially barn) cats). So I agree it should be added, but
I don't think release should have to wait for it.
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Re: Strange Things Happening with Beta 49 on Win98
On Sunday, March 17, 2002, 10:27:55 AM, Allie C Martin wrote: NA Yes, I realize that, and I do have many messages with the 'HTML' NA tab. However, this is the first time I've seen the 'Reply' Tab, NA which upon clicking it will show me the entire 'original' message NA that the current message (reply) refers to. The question now is, how did you end up with a message containing an attachment of that nature? TB! is working as it should there. what was 'reply' created with? I seem to recall some flavor of Outlook or OE which used to plague me with attachments back in my Eudora days. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/49 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Strange Things Happening with Beta 49 on Win98
On Sunday, March 17, 2002, 11:44:56 AM, Nick Andriash wrote: What is happening is that all *.html messages received by TB Beta 49 on my System show a tab labelled Reply. All the HTML messages I received this morning are from Yahoo Groups which just underwent a change so I wonder if that change resulted in a file format that TB doesn't understand, hence the generic icon representing the Reply tab? I've gotten messages from a few yahoo groups this morning, but nothing HTML so can't comment. Hardly ever get HTML from there. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/49 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Still a mailto: problem
On Wednesday, March 20, 2002, 1:50:11 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote:
Send us a mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is recognized.
I guess the question is is {mailto: a mailto or not.
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Re: Please make this happend
On Wednesday, March 20, 2002, 8:24:57 AM, Jonas Bengtsson wrote: I would like that when I press a folder I want the LAST incomming mail to be highlighted. NOT the one I last read in that folder. Is it possible to implement this before the final realese of 1.54?? I don't want the last incoming marked read as soon as I hit a folder. I want it to get marked read when I focus on it. With your change a folder could get opened three times and three messages get marked as read when all one did was answer the phone, look for something else in response, repeat the sequence and have to answer the door, look again at something else for the person who came, then start too look and not get a chance and have to check on a message for someone on the intercom. Present implementation is the correct way, IMHO -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 RC/1 on Windows XP version 5,1 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Still a mailto: problem
On Wednesday, March 20, 2002, 3:24:59 PM, Jernej Simoni wrote: DAC All? Maybe you can direct me to some. quoted below is from RFC DAC 2069 ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1738.txt. Just look, how the urls in text are formatted - all have URL: in front of them. I don't know that there is any point to this, and we should stop but here is what 1738 says: The HTTP protocol is specified elsewhere. This specification only describes the syntax of HTTP URLs. An HTTP URL takes the form: http://host:port/path?searchpart -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 RC/1 on Windows XP version 5,1 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Still a mailto: problem
On Wednesday, March 20, 2002, 3:42:39 PM, Jernej Simoni wrote: IIRC, it was mentioned in Opera newsgroups, that in mail and news message bodies the URLs should be prefixed with URL: (and a RFC number was given), but I don't have that article stored anymore (and I couldn't find the RFC). I'll have to search some more... I tried url:ftp: . . . with MSIE with success, and got the error message from netscape: url is not a valid protocol I have not got opera around any more to try there. Eudora 5.0 wouldn't recognize it. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 RC/1 on Windows XP version 5,1 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Bug with Mailticker?
On Friday, March 22, 2002, 11:31:43 AM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: Whenever a new message arrives and the mailticker is displayed, I have to double-click very hard on this ticker to open the message. hard means I have to doubleclick several times and it takes long until the message opens. confirmed -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60 RC/2 on Windows XP version 5,1 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: [Windows-key]-m doesn't minimize
On Saturday, March 23, 2002, 3:06:46 AM, Tony Boom wrote: Have you tried Windows-key + D to see if that works any better at minimising windows? also goes to tool bar instead of system tray -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60 on Windows XP version 5,1 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Bug or feature?
On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 3:28:44 AM, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Try selecting the signature delimiter below this paragraph and you will notice that there is no space, although I *have* typed dashdashspaceenter. Actually I don't think TB!'s editor is capable of putting extra spaces at the end of a line. -- You are mistaken. There is a space after the two '-' characters. It clearly shows up if you block it. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows XP version 5,1 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Back to My MUMS love of HTML
On Monday, July 29, 2002, 2:48:19 PM, Richard Evans wrote: I've tried to post these attachments a number of times but I think they are too big for the list. Let me know if you would like to help and i'll send them to you off-list I think you could upload the files to TBOT if you were to subscribe to that list. They could sit there a few days, or until they caused a problem then get deleted again. There haven't been any files uploaded there for about two years. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: changing shortcuts
On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 7:15:52 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: I changed the shortcut to ctrl-shft-m, and could get it to open but not close the memo window, or visa-versa (don't remember which). and in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] the thread is 'Re: Searching within a message,' it says This is bad behaviour. Agreed - but so many of the keyboard shortcuts require specific panes to be in focus before they work (read next message for example). I'd really like shortcuts to ALWAYS do what they say on the can, but sadly they don't. Correct, but these shortcuts are not explicitly defined in the menus. There is a difference between hidden shortcuts (or shortcuts which is only shown in a special pane popup menu) and one which is always defined through the menus but not always working as defined. I figured out that I could only close, not open the memo field then, because I was focused in the message list, not the preview pane. The memo window can be closed but not opened with the hot key when focused on the message in the message window, but if you shift the focus into the message the hot key will open the memo window. This is bad behavior. It makes as much sense to me to want to open the memo window to either view or add a memo when I am focused on the list as when focused on text. I browse with the focus on the message list as often as not. Interestingly, if you are in the account tree, the hotkey works like it should. Why it doesn't work that way when focused on the message list is pretty strange. Seems like a definite bug to me. In the browse window, the hotkey won't open OR close the memo window. Even stranger--buggier. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: changing shortcuts
On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 8:57:09 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: No. Not buggier. You assigned the shortcut for 'Mark Thread as Read' to memo view. 'Mark Thread as read' only works when message list is focused, that's why you're in this trouble. I don't know why you're unable to change it back to it's default, maybe the assigned function is executed when you want to set the shortcut, THIS would in fact be a bug. I took your advice, and deleted shortcut.cfg and I can report that the shortcut shows to be ctrl-shft-i in the shortcut editor and the view pull down. ctrl-shft-i, however does not open OR close the memo window, regardless where the focus, message list, preview pane, account tree, or menu window. I think that qualifies as buggier yet. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: changing shortcuts
On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 8:57:09 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: No. Not buggier. You assigned the shortcut for 'Mark Thread as Read' to memo view. 'Mark Thread as read' only works when message list is focused, that's why you're in this trouble. and there is another shortcut editor bug for not reporting the ctrl-shft-m conflict on making the change. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: 1.62 beta problems with XP
On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 6:33:33 PM, Jody Watts wrote: Before writing this e-mail, I closed TB! and it was gone. Looked in task manager and it was not listed under any of the tabs. can report exactly the same here. As I closed I watched the numbers in the process, and watched it disappear at the end, then reappear when I restarted. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:dcorrin;cox.net Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 1.62b5 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with losing text
On Friday, January 24, 2003, 11:15:44 AM, Timothy Casten wrote: I just spent 2 hours typing a email update to some people where I work only to have half of it disappear after I hit the send button. I can confirm this. (not 2 hours worth of typing, but half a message lost, right in the middle of a word. (not on this computer, but one running 98SE and beta 5) -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 1.63b4 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
trying to get back into the beta loop
For reasons not important here, I haven't been beta testing for some time now, but I've decided to start again. I've registered at http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ and have an active account. When I try to log on, I get 'access denied' (as opposed to 'wrong login or password' which I get if I use the wrong password) What am I missing and what other steps must I take to be able to access the site and get at the betas? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 2.01.50 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Has the Sort Columns/View Mode Bug Been Fixed?
On Friday, October 15, 2004, 3:34:08 AM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: If it is solely about the how, I like Marcus' suggestion best: TB should pop up a requester asking the user what he wants to do when he/she alters the viewmode-preset view of a folder... Something like - this folder currently uses viewmode ABC - click YES to alter the entire viewmode for all folders, click NO to remove the viewmode from the folder and use an individual configuration. what a nuisance that would become if every time one needed to momentarily change sorting, they had to stop and answer a pop. I think it's fine while WAD -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
On Sunday, October 17, 2004, 4:51:55 AM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Doug Weller everyone else 16-Okt-2004 16:54, you wrote: I'd really like an easy way to do some editing. Isn't xrayapp made exactly for that? Why should one have to have another app to do what a good email client should allow: ability to edit both subject and text of incoming emails (as well as repair threads) -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
On Monday, October 18, 2004, 12:25:13 PM, Doug Weller wrote: Dierk Because it stands to reason if a !good e-mail client should Dierk allow this kind of tinkering. Others do. What's the reason not to allow it in TB? It isn't tinkering, it's editing. I can already delete attachments, which is editing. One shouldn't have to tinker. One should be able to make notes in an e-mail message, change the header thread the message, etc. Dierk, have you ever made a note in the margin of a book or magazine? Would it be offensive to make a note on a letter one received, or put a post-it note there? Why should I have to tinker to do it on my own computer with my own e-mail client. I find it offensive to be told that it is some kind of evil act to do such an act on my computer or in my library? -- Dwight A. Corrin Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
