Re: Change password on beta site
Hello Peter! On Wednesday, February 07, 2007, 10:37 AM, you wrote: I want to cange my ID and password on this site: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Cannot find any way to do it. Peter, for me, my BT and my beta download accounts' user name and password are the same. You can change by logging in at BT on the Main page and then clicking on the My Account button. Can someone let me know where can I do this? 1) Go here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php 2) Log in. 3) Click on My Account. 4) You will then see an Edit page. The same user name and password works on the Beta download page, AFAIK. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change password on beta site
Hello Peter! On Wednesday, February 07, 2007, 4:21 PM, you wrote: I logged in to download the new beta version - no problem - but had to use a different ID and password. I would like to have just one ID and PW to remember. I see. Then Roelof's advice is probably the best. Write directly to RitLabs and ask for help there. When I wasn't able to create an account at all, someone there--can't remember, perhaps it was Maxim or Marek--created it for me. I'm forever grateful. I feel certain you can get help that way, too. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello George! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:38 PM, you wrote: ASK I'm using the txt2html.regexps to render text styles bold etc., ASK and its still working, just like the smilies. I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean to say that txt2html.regexps wasn't working - it's still converting the external links to local ones. It's those local links that no longer work, just like the smileys. It shows the Alt text in a box. Smileys are working for me now, in v. 3.96.03 (BETA). The developers announced when they began offering beta versions 3.96.xx for testing that they were proceeding toward a release, when all the showstopping problems have been cleaned up. So I hope the upcoming release will fix your txt2html.regexps function, since it seemed to be associated with the Smiley-display malfunction. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting to Apple
Hello Richard! On Saturday, February 03, 2007, 7:26 AM, you wrote: ... (Note - not intending to set off a debate here on the merits of Windows v. Mac.) In the event I move to Apple as well down the road, I will probably continue to run TB! using the dual capability of the new Apples. Still, life would be so much easier if there were a Mac version of TB!. I guess this comment means that you already know about running Windows on an Apple hard drive. I didn't pay much attention to the details--being happy with my PC-plus-TB!--but on TBOT at least one person explained how he was doing this, when he first bought (I believe it was) a Mac laptop. You might try a Google about this, also. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.96.1 (BETA) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting to Apple
Hello Elaine! On Saturday, February 03, 2007, 8:16 AM, you wrote: I guess this comment means that you already know about running Windows on an Apple hard drive. Mary, most Macs are now intel ready, and the new OS due out in a few months will probably contain BootCamp which will make using Windows on a Mac much easiier than it's been and it certainly hasn't been all that hard. I've been using Windows on my MacBook since June when I bought and set up the laptop. It's nice to have the latest info from you, without having to Google for it. Off Topic: Hope you're surviving the winter weather nicely. TB! is my consolation against the cold and snow. g -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.96.1 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 11:58 AM, you wrote to Stuart Cuddy: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. When I was seeing text versions of the Smileys surrounded with rectangular boxes, the splash screen was the usual one. Now that I reverted to the 3.95.8 rar, the splash screen is the Christmas edition screen, and the Smiley images are called. There is obviously something in the code of msi 3.95.08 that causes so many of us to have non-functioning Smileys. Perhaps those of you who were able to install msi 3.95.08 and keep functioning Smileys can do so because of how you handled the original Smiley code offerings, back in version 2.xx. Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of us are experiencing. What do you think, Alex? BTW, have you seen my BT issue report? I uploaded Martin Schoch's PNG there, and it will show you what we are experiencing: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 From his January 24 post at TBBETA: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 (rar) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:47 PM, you wrote: And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. Yes, I know that the MSI had the same version as the previous standalone .exe - but Stuart wrote that he installed teh *MSI* version twice, and both are different, and that I find hard to believe... Well, I believe him. Because this msi install has given you the Smileys+Christmas Splash Screen and me and a bunch of others the Regular Splash Screen+No Smileys. So, if on one of his machines he did what you did with the original Smiley install back in v. 2.xx, and on the other he did what I did with that original Smiley install when I got v. 2.06 (or something like that I seem to remember--it was so I could see the :42: that Leif made for me). So, it's logical to me that it could happen that way. And besides, Stuart Cuddy is a very logical-minded person, not given to fantasy. :) When I was seeing text versions of the Smileys surrounded with rectangular boxes, the splash screen was the usual one. Now that I reverted to the 3.95.8 rar, the splash screen is the Christmas edition screen, and the Smiley images are called. Thats odd, as I *did* install the MSI (control panel/arp shows TB version 3.95.08), but I still see the xmas splash screen. Yes. Maxim definitely needs to have a look at this, I think. Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of us are experiencing. What do you think, Alex? I ain't not making no clean install ma'am if it breaks me smilies! ;-) :kiss: :bearhug: BTW, have you seen my BT issue report? I uploaded Martin Schoch's PNG there, and it will show you what we are experiencing: I saw the screenshot before, yes. Okay. So you know what I'm ticked off about. ;) But I reckon the answer is :42: :purpletimemachine: h2g2 -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 (rar) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bat and router
Hello Miguel! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 4:45 AM, you wrote: You mean the developers cannot force time into another dimension? :-) Oh yes! They can, they all do it every day. When they say that something will be ready in 2 weeks, the dimension converter will tell you that in normal persons' dimension this means 2 or 7 months ;) And when they ignore and don't promise a fix at all? Does that mean they're in a separate time and also a separate space? These boxed smilies are *really* beginning to annoy me! So, Miguel, is there a BT report on them that I can support? -- Best regards, Digressive Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bat and router
Hello Miguel! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 6:31 AM, you wrote: You mean the developers cannot force time into another dimension? :-) Oh yes! They can, they all do it every day. When they say that something will be ready in 2 weeks, the dimension converter will tell you that in normal persons' dimension this means 2 or 7 months ;) And when they ignore and don't promise a fix at all? Does that mean they're in a separate time and also a separate space? No, it means that they don't know how to fix it but will not admit it ;-) :rofl: These boxed smilies are really beginning to annoy me! Switch to PTV. :) So, of course then the boxes disappear. But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially the PCWIZE collection. I'm a child at heart, and I like the fun of them. http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php So, Miguel, is there a BT report on them that I can support? I don't think so because AFAIK it's not a bug, it's WAD for RTV. No pictures called, ever again, then? Bummer. :( Off to write an entry in The Bat! Wishes at BT, then, simply for the satisfaction of letting off a little steam. Fully working HTML presented to TB! users, but no Smiley .msl function. What a laugh!! Stay tuned for new thread. -- Best regards, Digressive Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bat and router
Hello Miguel! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:17 AM, you wrote: But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially the PCWIZE collection. I'm a child at heart, and I like the fun of them. Do you really need any of the functionality in this last version? Think about it and revert to a version with smileys :) Good suggestion. However, I'm still beta testing, even though, for personal reasons, I am no longer posting on TBBETA. So, I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons and pics in The Bat!/Images feature. And I think I am not alone in this. Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think. -- Best regards, Digressive Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat!/Images/default.msl, .pcwsmileys.msl gone for good? [was Re: bat and router]
Hello MAU! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 8:52 AM, you wrote: So, I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons and pics in The Bat!/Images feature. And I think I am not alone in this. Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think. There must be other reason. Smiley-image haters or I couldn't care less users can very easily turn Smiles off by RMBing on message view. Perhaps, after all, it is a bug inadvertently introduced into TB!'s code. But, the developers, so far, are not commenting on this strange rendition of text in a box rather than the actual icon or image formerly displayed with RTV in the View windows, when Smileys are enabled.. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!/Images/default.msl, .pcwsmileys.msl gone for good? [was Re: bat and router]
Hello MAU! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 10:52 AM, you wrote: Perhaps, after all, it is a bug inadvertently introduced into TB!'s code. A bug that draws perfect rectangles around smileys? No way :-) Smiley text! Not Smiley images! LOL -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Peter! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 12:27 PM, you wrote: MB ... I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons MB and pics in The Bat!/Images feature. MB And I think I am not alone in this. No, you're not! :) I reverted to the last beta before this MSI for that reason. It has the same version number, although it's not the same. It still shows the Christmas splash screen and Smilies work well. :)) Then I am going back. I may not beta test any more until the developers announce that they have put the .msl function back into the code. MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think. If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol: Some are very righteous about it, though. ;) And Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the developers. Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Peter! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:06 PM, you wrote: MB ... Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the MB developers. Why would they? I just started a new trial with a Linux partition, and even KMail shows smilies. I haven't looked yet, if they can be turned off at all... :)) I am going to file a bug report. Reason: Alexander S. Kunz tried to post to this thread, but it didn't come through for some reason, so he sent me a PM. Alex did a custom install of v. 3.95.08 msi, and chose to install only the .exe. Then he put his reserved Smiley files back in manually. The Smiley icons and pictures show just fine for him. My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Maxim has evidently not understood this, from the discussions that I read on TBBETA. If he doesn't get alerted, the situation could continue right on through the next release. I'm going to file a bug report now. Stay tuned. I'll be back with a new thread here, afterward. MB Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( MB I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo: Don't! :kissy: ;) :bearhug: I feel better already. Thanks, Peter. And thanks, Alex! :) MB http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php Exactly! :B :thumbup: -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys
Hello Peter and Everyone Else Interested in Proper Display of Smileys! Please support: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys
Hello Peter and Everyone Else Interested in Proper Display of Smileys! Please support: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 P.S. Peter, please forgive my misspelling of your name in the subject line of my first post in this thread. Was struggling with TB!'s desire to over-ride my addressing in the To: field and messed up big time. Sorry. My bad. :( -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Leif! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:58 PM, you wrote: Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( Just chiming in even though I haven't followed the whole thread and basing what I'm about to say off something I think I remember hearing. I could be wrong and am willing to take a hit on it. Always so courteous. :) Weren't the developers working on something along the lines of smart tags like *bold*, /italics/ type thing. I wonder if this is where it's coming from. ... Haven't heard that, but if so it could be related. Is it totally disregarding the .msl? i.e. if you use :gdr: It's displayed as gdr (with the colons) and a rectangular box around it. Does that one work and it's just the uber common smileys that got the different look? None of them work. Neither the PCWIZE collection nor the DEFAULT collection. It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken. Thanks for chiming in, Leif. -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys
Hello Peter! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 2:02 PM, you wrote: MB P.S. Peter, please forgive my misspelling of your name in the subject MB line of my first post in this thread. Was struggling with TB!'s desire MB to over-ride my addressing in the To: field and messed up big time. MB Sorry. My bad. :( I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't mentioned it... :lol: You're always so kind! Anyway, thanks for the supporting note at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 Much appreciaated! :thankyou: -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Leif! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 2:40 PM, you wrote: It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken. Thanks for chiming in, Leif. Ahhh. Well, so much for my $.02 then.. grin Leif, when you get time, could you do a complete msi install of this, over the version you're presently running: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-95-08.msi Just to test. Afterwards, perhaps you would have time to put a support note at: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 Would be much appreciated and rate a :kiss: or a :bearhug: from me and maybe from Charlene. grin It's from tbbeta mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The changes mentioned relate to Windows Vista Manager, to label placement in the SMTP authentication dialogue, and a larger window for the installation wizard. That's it. Not a word about Smileys or tags. So, I think something else inadvertently got done in writing the msi version. Thanks a mil! -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing Received Messages
Hello Dwight! On Sunday, January 21, 2007, 8:47 PM, you wrote: Is there a way to edit a message one has received--not for reply but for filing. this, and being able to edit text have been longstanding requests of some, which have been opposed, and not adopted because users who wish to do this are regarded as bad people who need to be protected from themselves. Put that way I think is sounds crazy and if you have missed the discussions you probably think I am exaggerating. It is, however, so. It is thought to be immoral to want to make changes, add notes, or condense a message in your database. We should be ashamed for wanting to do it. You are absolutely right about the judgmental tone of the comments in regard to this feature modification request, whenever it is being discussed. It is of a piece with the status of the sacred Outbox. Current position of developers and their supporters: 1) The Outbox settings must over-ride Address Book settings, when a message is re-opened from the Outbox. BTW, please support: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6182 2) The Draft folder must exist only as a function of the Outbox. 3) There must not be a separate draft folder. 4) Account headers must over-ride manual re-typing of the From field text. 5) If you reply to a message from one Account, but wish to show the address/domain of another account, The Bat! will change the From setting back when you click Send. 6) Only work-around is to copy the message to a folder in the Account that you want to show in the From field and then invoke your editor window for the reply. 7) As noted in this thread, you cannot, inside The Bat!, edit the subject field, or the time-stamp, either, of a received message for purposes of filing a message, in order to make its subject line describe the body contents more accurately. It's my view that The Bat! should allow the user to edit or modify anything he/she wishes or needs to modify. And that these manual modifications should over-ride all template and automatic TB! settings. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing Received Messages
Hello Thomas! On Monday, January 22, 2007, 8:43 AM, you wrote: [...] and not adopted because users who wish to do this are regarded as bad people who need to be protected from themselves EC I agree to this. Well, I don't. EC In fact there where numerous discussions on this topic. True, but it is not resolved. EC Personally I also think an eMail should not be altered. In a time EC where Governments are thinking of considering eMail as a legal EC document it it more than being a 'bad person' altering such a EC document (also when there is a possibility through exporting and EC re-importing. Emails are alterable, we just heard (again) about how to do that. It's a legal document only if it is PGP-signed (or equivalent), or if the email on the sender's and the recipeint's computer are the same. Why is it OK to export/alter/import the message, but not to do it within TB? Doesn't make sense to me. EC Michael, why are you not using the 'Memo' function (Shift+Crl+I)? EC THat is much faster, uncomplicated and you can make searches on EC it. It would be faster to just alter the subject line, which is what I would often like to do. Enquiry as a subject just doesn't say anything in my business environment. Thomas, I agree with and fully support all your comments in this post. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing Received Messages
Hello Dwight! On Monday, January 22, 2007, 9:18 AM, you wrote: Michael, why are you not using the 'Memo' function (Shift+Crl+I)? THat is much faster, uncomplicated and you can make searches on it. it is a WORKAROUND. and a not very satisfactory one at that. I guess I am going to hell or to prison, but I want to be able to decide how I will keep my inbox! Amen! Me too! And I also want to be able to decide how I will keep my Outbox! Without having to resort to all these cumbersome Work-Arounds. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing Received Messages
Hello Doug! On Monday, January 22, 2007, 11:10 AM, you wrote: Michael, why are you not using the 'Memo' function (Shift+Crl+I)? THat is much faster, uncomplicated and you can make searches on it. So if I want to do a fast search of subject lines anything in memo will show up? No, it won't. Memo is not a substitute. ... Exactly. A fast search of subject lines--one of TB!'s most useable features. But only helpful if there are meaningful subject lines, using words relevant to the body text's content. Memo is no substitute. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing Received Messages
Hello Urban! On Monday, January 22, 2007, 2:00 PM, you wrote: But only helpful if there are meaningful subject lines, using words relevant to the body text's content. Memo is no substitute. So forward it to yourself and change the subject line. Yes, Urban, that's another nice work-around. But, in general, as I wrote earlier in this thread, I believe that The Bat! should support a manual over-ride of all templates and all TB! automatic settings. I am enjoying this thread. But my own main complaint is not about the Inbox, but about the Outbox. The Outbox also over-rides the user's wishes. Please support: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6182 It is a Bat Wishes entry that asks for the Outbox to be configured to respect Address Book header settings, when a message is re-opened in the Outbox Draft section, for further editing. See my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encryption
Hello Alto! On Thursday, January 18, 2007, 2:42 PM, you wrote: BTW, does the current version of TheBat work with PGP Desktop v9? MB Sorry, I can't help with that. I would bet that the issue is MB *not* resolved. Oh, well. To be honest there's not much of a reason for me to switch from PGP v8 to v9 anyway. ;-) From Marek's info, in his post to this thread, apparently there is hope for the future. :) MB If I enter a wish on BugTracker, would you be able to put a MB supporting note? Yes, certainly. Thanks a mil! Here's the link: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6182 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BatWish entry: for Outbox Draft folder not to over-ride AB setting PGP Encrypt Complete
Hello Everyone! When you Save as Draft a message for which you've specified Encrypt Complete in the Privacy settings, and then you go to the Outbox and re-open that message for further editing, the Outbox folder settings over-ride the PGP Encrypt Complete setting of the original message. The Outbox folder takes its settings from the Account settings. And an Editor window opened from the Outbox folder--even only the re-opening of a Saved Draft--will over-ride the Address-Book settings. I have written a wish to have this changed and have the Editor window opened from the Outbox respect Address Book settings--as the Editor window will already do in other circumstances, that is, when not opened from the Outbox folder focus. If that is not possible, in Other Information on my BugTracker BatWish entry, I put my desire to have a warning when The Bat! has automatically unticked a PGP Encrypt Complete setting. Otherwise, an uninformed user--or an informed but unwary user--could send out in clear a message he/she had intended to send encrypted. In some circumstances, this would cause a serious security or privacy problem. Please support: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6182 Thanks a mil, in advance! :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encryption
Hello Jack! On Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 6:02 PM, you wrote: With this new-found knowledge you've provided I now assume that PGP or some other encryption utility could be used to completely encrypt (make un-readable) any email message. True? True. I use PGP to encrypt private mails to a couple of my correspondents. Has worked flawlessly for me for about four years now. There's also Gnupg--apparently a spin-off--that some people like better. And if so, would any recipient then need a key of some sort to make the message readable? Yes. Key and password, in PGP--and in other such apps, I presume. If you do decide to use PGP, it has a plug-in to The Bat! It's very nice. But, be aware, that if you save a message in The Bat! as draft, which will park it in the Outbox, then: Outbox Folder settings take over. Your privacy setting will be the Outbox Folder's default setting--which you cannot change. If you then send without resetting Encrypt from the Privacy menu in the editor window, the message will go out unencrypted--in clear. Even though you originally set it to encrypt, before saving it as draft. I complained over-and-over on TBBETA about this behavior. No one there would agree with me that it was a serious security issue. Instead, they said that I should be a more attentive user and not expect The Bat! to nanny me. shrug -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encryption
Hello Alto! On Wednesday, January 17, 2007, 10:48 AM, you wrote: BTW, does the current version of TheBat work with PGP Desktop v9? The v8 version has no issues, but didn't a file get renamed with v9 so that TheBat wouldn't recognize it any more? Did that issue get resolved since? Sorry, I can't help with that. I would bet that the issue is *not* resolved. The developers seem to have PGP issues well below their radar's vision. I'm running PGP v. 6.5.8ckt 09b2. It works well for me and I've never seen a reason to change. But, be aware, that if you save a message in The Bat! as draft, which will park it in the Outbox, then: [...] I complained over-and-over on TBBETA about this behavior. No one there would agree with me that it was a serious security issue. Spoke too soon. I would, definitly. Sorry, I must have overlooked your posts on this issue. Ah, thanks. Some words from other TBBETA members were posted to me the last time I brought it up that felt very hot to me, and those posters were cold to the idea of a Wish entry at bugtracker. Then again, that may not be of much value - if my suggestions would have any weight on TBBETA I wouldn't need to use v3.0.1.33 still in the year of 2007. ;-) Bless you, Alto. If I enter a wish on BugTracker, would you be able to put a supporting note? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recovering Toolbars from Old Computer
Hello MFPA! On Thursday, January 11, 2007, 8:27 AM, you wrote: My mail folder is at %appdata%\The Bat! and IIRC that is the default, although I have heard that in very early versions of TB! this was different (and does not change when you upgrade). This is my understanding, also. And so, my Mail folder is in the TB! directory and not in the Application Data folder. More curiously, TB!'s temp folder *is* in the App Data folder, here. I guess it all depends on what settings are conserved as one upgrades along the way from 1.xx to the present, current version. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dragging from message list to Knujon e-mail: AV
Hello Mark! On Friday, January 05, 2007, 8:34 PM, you wrote: I need to check what date I let Microsoft update Internet Explorer to v. 7.0. That may be the difference on my system--although how an un-launched IE could affect The Bat! is beyond me. Sorry I missed this earlier. There have been reports of IE7 installing a new version of wininet.dll and this causing some havoc with other applications. I don't know if that's what's at work here, but you might want to check the date and version on that file. Thanks for the suggestion. I put this file name into Windows Search, and the latest showing is 11/7/2006, 9:03 PM. File version is 7.0.5730.11, and it says the date created is 8/9/2004 at 3:00 p.m. So I guess it hasn't been modified on this system (the path to it was Windows/System32). But maybe another file was changed that is affecting The Bat! Another clue is that Opera 9 began giving me an error message that it had to close when I would be trying to link within a few websites, and this began happening on Jan. 4, 2007. I can't get from my Inbox to my Spam mail at gmail.com in Opera as a result of this erratic behavior. No problem using Mozilla FireFox. Have just now tried Opera again. It wouldn't even finish loading the gmail website before putting up the Error box. But I was on Google for half an hour earlier this morning, bringing up multiple sites and navigating within them, no Opera problem doing that. (Was reading about cedar waxwings.) I've been sending a report, every time Opera puts up the error message box, so maybe it will all eventually get fixed. I did set a Restore point in Windows/System Restore before installing IE7. I guess I could try going back, in case that would clear up both the Opera and the TB! problem. I'll do that a little later and report back here. (Actually, my TB! AVs stopped happening yesterday. I haven't tried the dragdrop from the message list pane this morning. But I want to send this post before doing that, in case the forced close of TB! would lose my draft.) Thanks a mil for the info, Mark. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SOT: Knujon Spam Reports via other means than The Bat! [WAS Re: Dragging from message list to Knujon e-mail: AV]
Hello James! On Saturday, January 06, 2007, 11:44 AM, you wrote: FTP appears to be the best solution. But even if you don't want to use an ftp client, they offer a Web based upload interface. But I believe you need to be registered to use either. More info on reporting methods is buried within Knujon's CastleCops forum: http://www.castlecops.com/f240-Knujon_General_Discussion.html Thanks a million for the detailed account of the methods and for the link. I am, in fact, registered. I was a bit leery of the FTP offer--because my own privacy and security concerns, however unwarranted. Had missed seeing the web-based upload interface option, however. Note: Since we are digressing away from TB! a bit here, I've CCd to TBOT, in case there's need for further discussion. Off to read in the link-page. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Dragging from message list to Knujon e-mail: AV
Hello fellow tbudl subscribers! In connection with the discussion going on about Spam filters: Knujon sent me a Welcome letter in which they suggested that I drag the listing from a Spam message into the Editor window, as a means of attaching reports of several messages into one e-mail report to them. This results in an Access Violation error message every time. AV window only repeats itself when clicking on either Close or OK. TB! freezes, the ESC key does nothing, and TB! must then be closed with the Task Manager. Further, TB! saves the e-mail in the Outbox. Highlighting to delete it results in the same AV behavior. To get rid of it, one must use the Empty Folder choice on the folder menu. Confirmations? BTW, I normally just delete the dozen or so Spam messages that I receive per week on my comcast.net account, on the server, using the Message Dispatcher. However, Alexander suggested to me that I could help fight spam by reporting these, and so I have been downloading the most egregious offenders and sending them to Knujon: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, very curiously to me, the first time I tried sending the listings as attachments, on January 3, it worked flawlessly, twice. On January 4, the same methodology brought the AVs. I reproduced the behavior half a dozen times. Then I gave up and forwarded the individual spams to Knujon with TB!s forwarding feature. My gmail account, of course, filters Spam very efficiently to my website account page's Spam folder. I'm getting 10 or 12 Spam messages per day there. So far, there's been only one false positive--my e-mail from Epson, which I wish to receive. Marking it not spam cured that. It's tedious to send spam to Knujon from gmail, so I'm just letting that run for awhile, with gmail tending to the spam on my trillenator account. Knujon said on their website that they are working with Google to get an easy way to report spam from there. Note, in my sig, that I am running The Bat 3.95.6. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.95.6 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dragging from message list to Knujon e-mail: AV
Hello Miguel! On Friday, January 05, 2007, 7:34 AM, you wrote: Happy New Year my dear! ;) Happy New Year to you, too, and a late Happy New Year to all. In connection with the discussion going on about Spam filters: Knujon sent me a Welcome letter in which they suggested that I drag the listing from a Spam message into the Editor window, as a means of attaching reports of several messages into one e-mail report to them. This results in an Access Violation error message every time. AV window only repeats itself when clicking on either Close or OK. TB! freezes, the ESC key does nothing, and TB! must then be closed with the Task Manager. If by this you mean including messages from the message list as attachment of a new message or a reply, I do this quite frequently (and tested just now) and I had no problem. The way I do it is: select a message on the list pane, drag it out of the list pane, Alt+TAB to change to Editor window and drop it there. Yes. I had the Editor window already up and dragged it directly from the list pane to the message body in the Editor window and dropped it there. It did work on January 3 and then not on January 4. I need to check what date I let Microsoft update Internet Explorer to v. 7.0. That may be the difference on my system--although how an un-launched IE could affect The Bat! is beyond me. Further, TB! saves the e-mail in the Outbox. Highlighting to delete it results in the same AV behavior. To get rid of it, one must use the Empty Folder choice on the folder menu. No problem here either. And, as you can see, I also use v3.95.6. I would love to blame my problem on Microsoft! It's not a feature I myself need to use regularly--can always simply Forward--but I thought I'd better report what's happened to me, in case it would turn out that others have the same experience. I'll report back when I find the date at which IE 7.0 got installed here, if I can find that info. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dragging from message list to Knujon e-mail: AV
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 05, 2007, 11:37 AM, you wrote: Ah, so thats how it works. I always wondered. I dragged the message from the msglist to the button of TBs editor on the windows taskbar, but unlike most other programs, it would not come to front after a second or so of waiting. Maybe I should file that as a wish? :-) I would certainly support it, if you did so. Alex, do you have any idea why the thing worked flawlessly for me on Jan. 3, and now, since Jan. 4, it gives me these consistent Access Violation error boxes and freezes TB!? I think I did finish downloading and installing from Windows Updater the IE 7.0, on the evening of Jan. 3. Could that be playing into it, at all? I'm not worried--merely puzzled--and would welcome your thoughts on this. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dragging from message list to Knujon e-mail: AV
Hello MAU! On Friday, January 05, 2007, 1:03 PM, you wrote: It did work on January 3 and then not on January 4. What about today, January 5th? It may be that it only works on odd numbered days ;) :rofl2: Actually, I hadn't tried it today, when I posted again to this thread, but I've just now made the effort. And I can't budge the selected message even to drag it out of the list pane! I am some kind of klutz I think--skilled one day, clueless the next. I wish I were still running Win95, with only about half a dozen apps on it! ;) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dragging from message list to Knujon e-mail: AV
Hello MAU! On Friday, January 05, 2007, 1:06 PM, you wrote: I think I did finish downloading and installing from Windows Updater the IE 7.0, on the evening of Jan. 3. Could that be playing into it, at all? I'm not worried--merely puzzled--and would welcome your thoughts on this. I haven't installed IE7 so I can't even test. Sorry. Don't know why I bothered with it, myself. Never use it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Access Violation when message is draggeddropped from list pane into editor window
Hello Miguel! Well, it dragged and dropped into a new message. And it was only new messages I was working with on Jan 3 and 4. Won't drag into a Reply editor window. One more piece of info, then. So far, no AV. Let's see if this will go without an AV. Of course, if it does, TBUDL will strip the attachment, which is all to the good. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dragging from message list to Knujon e-mail: AV
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 05, 2007, 2:45 PM, you wrote: Alex, do you have any idea why the thing worked flawlessly for me on Jan. 3, and now, since Jan. 4, it gives me these consistent Access Violation error boxes and freezes TB!? I have no idea. I'm not using IE and haven't bothered to update to v7. :-) Should have left it alone, myself, since I don't use it either. :) But AV's sound like a TB bug to me. That's what I thought. However, today, again, the dragdrop from the message list pane to the New Editor window works flawlessly. I'm left with, what was different--or what was I inadvertently doing differently--on Jan. 4. Well, I'll play with it some more and see whether I can reproduce yesterday's bad behavior. Thanks a mil for the reply. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder list corrupted
Hello Pat! On Friday, January 05, 2007, 2:31 PM, you wrote: Help? Don't know how much help I can be, Pat, but it's nice to see you. Belated Happy New Year. :) TBUDL strips attachments, so your screenshot isn't going to show here. In regard to the possibility of your worst-case scenario of a completely new Install, the best way is to do the installation and then in Tools/Restore of the main TB! window choose Restore. Before uninstalling, move the TB! Backup file out to another location, and write down the path, or save the path in a text-file location other than TB! Did you do a Backup before you installed v. 3.95.6? Another thing you could do, if you have any stable beta .rar versions of The Bat! on hand, is to rename just the exe in your TB! directory to oldThe Bat! And then (with TB! closed) open the rar file into the TB! directory. Send me your screenshot PM, if you would like to. Be sure to use my trillenator at gmail address. Comcast.net has been bouncing some of my friends for months, including the TB! lists. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder list corrupted
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 05, 2007, 3:30 PM, you wrote: Next thing you should try is the majic keyboard shortcut to search for lost folders - unfortunately, I forgot the shortcut! :-) Someone else has to tell you. I never heard of this majic ks before, but I did a search in Help/Help Topics/Search for the key words lost folders and after scrolling through some irrelevant info about other problems with folders, came up with this: 1. Select the account which lost folders 2. Press the Ctrl+Alt+Shift+l simultaneously Haven't tested it yet--anyway, don't think that I have any lost folders myself. @Pat: HTH -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Benefitting from beta testing
Hello Peter! On Saturday, December 16, 2006, 6:07 PM, you wrote: I am registered at the silverstones.. Website. But if I go to the proper pageto D/L I end up with the old beta. Ah, yes. For some reason, ever since the ALPHA beta series came in--at least--the RitLabs team hasn't kept that download page up to date. Also--so far as I know, haven't tried it lately--the Updater function in Help/Check for Updates isn't working for the beta series, which one can configure at Options/Preferences/Update/Check for updates when The Bat! starts, with a tick in the box marked Check for beta versions of The Bat!. I unchecked that because it was hanging in a beta a few versions back. Have put it back on, and when the next version comes down, I'll find out if it's working again. On the pull-down menu at Options/ Preferences/Update I select Only notification, do not download automatically to have a little more control over the download. TB! remains a work in progress, huh? However Ron gave me the proper link and I got it now, as shown in the sig line. I saw, and that's good. Nice opening page. Yes. I really do like it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.11 beta on Windows XP Windows Media Center Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Benefitting from beta testing
Hello Fellow TBUDL Subscribers Who Might Consider Running a Beta! The splash screen on the current beta is as colorful as the Christmas season. Worth being a beta tester just to get an advance peek at it. Beta version 3.86.11 is running well, reliably, and stably, according to everything I hear. Certainly it is for me. So, if you've been considering signing up for beta testing, now is a particularly auspicious time to do it. It's tempting to me to close and re-launch The Bat! just for the pleasure of another look at the cheerful splash screen. But the biggest benefit, of course, is the collection of features and fixes of this latest beta version. Of course, you can always wait for the release. Surely it wlll happen before Christmas is over. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.86.11 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Benefitting from beta testing
Hello Perry! On Saturday, December 16, 2006, 9:20 AM, you wrote: There's nothing special about my system and others may have a better one, but once I realized the process of switching versions was that simple, I felt comfortable signing up for and participating in the beta testing. Oh, thank you so much for posting this system, Perry. I remember about it now--I used to do that, too. Somehow, with everything I had to do when I moved into this new computer in October, I forgot about that. I am going to do my beta installations your way, from now on. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.11 beta on Windows XP Media Cente Editin Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Benefitting from beta testing
Hello Chris! On Saturday, December 16, 2006, 1:22 PM, you wrote: It's tempting to me to close and re-launch The Bat! just for the pleasure of another look at the cheerful splash screen. But the biggest benefit, of course, is the collection of features and fixes of this latest beta version. Help - About? Not the screen from Help/About. The screen that shows on one's Desktop when one first launches an application--in this case, The Bat! -- Best regards, Mary Not working for some reason. No idea what happened to my sig delimiter there. I've checked it--should be okay. Hope it was a one-time glitch. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.11 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Benefitting from beta testing
Hello Peter! On Saturday, December 16, 2006, 1:03 PM, you wrote: I tried to get this beta version, but if I go to the website: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ the latest version for download is 3.81.18 which is older than my regular version. Where did you find the 06/Xmas version? Maxim Masiutin (of the RitLabs development team) announced it on TBBETA yesterday. TBBETA mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.11 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Benefitting from beta testing
Hello Peter! On Saturday, December 16, 2006, 4:10 PM, you wrote: I tried to get this beta version, but if I go to the website: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ the latest version for download is 3.81.18 which is older than my regular version. Where did you find the 06/Xmas version? Mary Maxim Masiutin (of the RitLabs development team) announced it on Mary TBBETA yesterday. Mary TBBETA mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Where can I download it? Go here, and sign up for beta testing and subscribe to TBBETA. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html That is, if you're not already a beta tester. If you are already a TB! beta tester, then see the mid above. Maxim included a link to the download in that message announcing beta v. 3.86.11. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.11 beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hello Roelof! On Friday, December 15, 2006, 3:23 AM, you wrote: ML How did you configure the message header? It doesn't ML work here. You've got to define the User-agent header at Option - Preferences - Messages - Message Headers Attached you find my settings for this header. And then you use the %SetHeader macro to define its value. There isn't much more to explain on this subject. Roelof, I guess it slipped your mind that TBUDL doesn't allow attachments? Only TBBETA? I did mine by following my X-Rogue pattern: 1) In Options/Preferences/Messages/Message Headers I clicked on Add. 2) In the window that came up I typed in User-agent in both fields. 3) I checked Allow to edit this field in the Message Editor and Display the field on the scrollable part of the header pane. I left the other option unchecked. 4) In Account/Properties/Templates I copied-pasted for each of the message templates: %SetHeader(User-agent,RITLABS Mailer v%THEBATVERSION)%- 5) I put the same line for my Address Book templates, which over-ride the Default Account templates, of course. It's working for me, I think. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.10 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hello Maggie! On Friday, December 15, 2006, 5:18 AM, you wrote: And then you use the %SetHeader macro to define its value. There isn't much more to explain on this subject. Roelof, I guess it slipped your mind that TBUDL doesn't allow attachments? Only TBBETA? I did mine by following my X-Rogue pattern: ... MM's Cookie With a library you are free, not confined by temporary MM's Cookie political climates. That was supposed to be a 'thank you, Mary', not a stray cookie! I think it's working here now. :) I'm so glad. Feels like the old days, a bit, to me, when we were beta-testing X-Rogue on TBOT. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.10 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connecvtion Center hangs
Hello Jim! On Friday, December 15, 2006, 7:22 AM, you wrote: Starting yesterday, my copy of TB! seems to hang with the Connection Center active. That is, it never closes down after checking my two accounts for new traffic. Try enabling, by putting a tick in the box, Show all messages left on the server in Account/Properties/Mail Management/Message Dispatcher. Also, check Autmatically invoke at each mail check under Message Dispatcher. Then have a look on the Message Dispatcher to see if there is an old message which is not being deleted. If there are new messages, temporarily toggle Receive off for them. Then one by one choose delete until all undeleted old messages are deleted. This has worked for me, in the past. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.10 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hello Maggie! On Friday, December 15, 2006, 7:37 AM, you wrote: I wonder why it would be necessary to copy the macro to the address book templates? Those people would be used to receiving mail from you, so their systems wouldn't choke on TB!, yes? Was just an extra precaution--in case their IP or ISP suddenly decided to get aggressive about filtering Spam, the way Comcast.net did recently. Not hard to do if you're using a Quick Template called with the Qinclude macro. One by one, manually, I admit it's a bit time-consuming. And as you say, likely unnecessary, anyway. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.10 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connecvtion Center hangs
Hello Jim! On Friday, December 15, 2006, 7:41 AM, you wrote: A re-boot seems to have cleared up the problem, but I made the changes you suggest to both accounts just in case it might happen again. Many thanks! You're welcome. And thanks for the good news that a re-boot seems to have taken care of the problem. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.10 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Updating TB!
Hello Douglas! On Wednesday, December 06, 2006, 11:06 AM, you wrote: I am using TB! Pro v. 3.51.10 on WinXP with no service packs and when I double click on the file thebat_pro_3-85-03.msi the computer enters a loop that requires me to reboot. Something may be corrupt with the MSI installation procedure. Early MSI releases of TB had some problems if I remember correct. I remember them. Actually had encounters with them, while beta testing. You mean TB!3? Yes. I only started beta testing post-v. 3.xx. You could try to make a full backup from within TB, uninstall the program completely, and then reinstall from the new MSI (and then restore the backup) to cure the problem once and for all. Unless the problem is with my windows installation. The principle question is, do I or don't I need to upgrade from v 3.51.10? You do not need to upgrade. The additional features past v. 3.51.10 are chiefly the new (and rather daunting) customizer, for customizing toolbars and keyboard shortcuts. Plus a much easier sorting office/filters interface. That's it, in the main. I wish that I were running v. 3.51.10 myself right now, as a matter of fact. But MSI won't allow me to drop back. I'd have to do a full uninstall plus reinstall to do that. And it's too much hassle. What I'm missing, since I began running the beta series v. 3.86.03 and following, is the icon panel in the View window. Attachments are available only in the status bar at the bottom of the screen, now. IIRC, happened to me with v. 3.86.08. Dropping back to v. 3.86.02 did not fix it, however. And when I tried a v. 3.85 MSI install, Windows told me it could not do that. My current work-around is to store the attachments separately. That way I can move images out to a non-TB! folder and view them at a decent size rather than as the unsatisfactory small images TB! now embeds in the message body when I click on the status bar tab. Grr. Manually extracting the files from the MSI archive will most likely not fix it. You'll still have a corrupt entry in the MS installer database that needs fixing. Everything MS makes corrupts too easily. I can't run MSIE (or Netcaptor, for that matter) either; but who cares? I use Firefox and Opera w/ not problems. I like Opera and Firefox. Opera is my default browser. Another thing worth trying first would be the MSI cleanup utility from Microsoft. It can check the database of MSI installations and remove entries without actually uninstalling the program. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 I'll give it a try. But I was at the M$ website a while ago and in order to download a service pack I have to use their own pet browser. Is anyone using TB! with Linux? Let me know if it's any good, please. I might be interested in it. In re Linux: Tony Boom ran TB! on Linux for awhile before he got his Mac. You might inquire about that on TBOT, since AFAIK Tony's not subscribed to the TB! lists any more. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Updating TB!
Hello Alexander! On Wednesday, December 06, 2006, 10:28 AM, you wrote: the MSI cleanup utility from Microsoft. It can check the database of MSI installations and remove entries without actually uninstalling the program. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 What's your opinion of this warning at that website page: begin cp = View products that this article applies to.Article ID : 290301 Last Review : November 13, 2006 Revision: 5.1 This article was previously published under Q290301 Warning The Windows Installer CleanUp Utility is provided as is to help resolve installation problems for programs that use Microsoft Windows Installer. If you use this utility, you may have to reinstall other programs. Caution is advised. === end cp -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Updating TB!
Hello Douglas! On Wednesday, December 06, 2006, 3:28 PM, you wrote: ... substitute the old thebat.exe file with the new one. I recall that this used to work for most previous TB! uogrades, and there was also an ftp access with zip files on the ritlab site. ... I could send you PM the beta site URL. However, you have to be a registered beta tester to use that; requires ID and PWD. To sign up for beta testing, see the Silverstones page, the link to which is at the bottom of every TBUDL post. But renaming the .exe temporarily and dragging the new rar .exe in, does work, within a given MSI install. I don't know whether there would be incompatibilities between, say, an earlier 3.xx MSI install, and the .exe from v. 3.85.03. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editors - external?
Hello Robert! On Wednesday, December 06, 2006, 5:12 PM, you wrote: ... I dislike Windows-style editors. ... You might like to have a look at TB!'s made-for-The Bat! MicroEd editor. It has a lot of the features which you said you like in your customiazed external editor, and once you had the MicroEd configured, it might be less trouble than using an external editor. I love the MicroEd editor myself, and I don't like the Windows editor provided with The Bat! Have a look at Options/Preferences from the main TB! window. Scroll down the Preferences choices to Viewer/Editor and see MicroEd under that. Combined with Address Book templates, and TB!'s Quick Template function, it takes much of the work out of composing e-mail messages. On another note: Welcome to TBUDL. I've been subscribed here since October, 2002, and it is a very helpful and friendly group. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Text input box in front of message list
Hello MFPA! On Wednesday, November 01, 2006, 9:30 AM, you wrote: Any idea where the menu/toolbar customisation settings are stored? I was fiddling with these earlier and the problem arose the next time I started TB! Main TB! Window/View/Toolbars/Customise HTH -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Text input box in front of message list
Hello Alexander! On Wednesday, November 01, 2006, 9:49 AM, you wrote: Any idea where the menu/toolbar customisation settings are stored? %APPDATA%\The Bat!\tbuser.def Here, because my earlier TB! configuration is conserved, the path is C:\Program files\The Bat!\tbuser.def I thought that MFPA wanted to know where the Customize function was, in View\Toolbars\Customise. Sorry if I misunderstood. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hello Perry! On Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 7:19 AM, you wrote: Do any of you agree this might be a desirable configuration option? And if I entered it as on Ritlabs' Wish List, would you support it? Speaking for myself, Yes, yes, yes! Write the Wish List report, please. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Musings on Common Filters and Multiple Accounts
Hello Perry! On Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 8:20 AM, you wrote: Do any of you agree this might be a desirable configuration option? And if I entered it as on Ritlabs' Wish List, would you support it? MB Speaking for myself, Yes, yes, yes! MB Write the Wish List report, please. Thanks for the support, Mary. I think I'll hold off on submitting the wish until others have had a chance to weigh in though. Makes sense. You did ask for discussion, pro and con. I would find it quite useful. I happen to have three accounts, and a favorite relative occasionally writes to all three. I read him by clicking on the MailTicker, and then I have to hunt the message down, in one of two other inboxes, since that message didn't come in to the account that filters him to his folder. Not a really big deal, but multiplied by several, could get time-consuming. I didn't have time to study your work-around and implement it. I'm dealing with a number of other issues this morning, including a new computer's vagaries. But I copied your post to my Troubleshooting file, so I won't have to do a search here when I'm ready to use it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: handle
Hello Ben! On Thursday, October 19, 2006, 8:10 AM, you wrote: If I want to use someone's handle instead of their name in a template how do i do this? 1) Address Book/Edit/Properties 2) In the template instead of the % macro, manually type in the greeting. I have, for example, a relative whose e-mail address uses his first name, but he goes by his middle name. So on my new, forward, and reply templates that I customized for him, I typed in Hello Herb,; so even though the e-mail address reads Ross@ the greeting comes out Hello Herb. Try it and see whether or not this works for you. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: handle
Hello Ben! On Thursday, October 19, 2006, 8:55 AM, you wrote: If I want to use someone's handle instead of their name in a template how do i do this? deleted Mary's idea Yes this would work. But its what I am trying to avoid doing... As I have an address group who are all referred to by their handles... I can see there is a way of using this in the help file... Just I can't get it to work. I basically want to avoid doing 10 separate templates and have just one for the group as a whole. Then to Marck apply-- He is the guy To make that fly!! He knows, I'd state, A Quick Template Where %QINCLUDE=Handle can be made to work great! Thank you anyway Mary. It is my fault for not being clear about what I wanted to achieve. I think its an English trait. More a trait of English-language users in general, I think. Brought upon them by the extreme versatility of our mother tongue. :) Sorry I couldn't be of more help. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template Question
Hello David! On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 8:13 AM, you wrote: Can anyone help me with a better macro to clean out all the ads, PGP signatures, ect. from messages I'm replying too? Here's mine. Works like a charm for me. Be sure to put David in the sig where I have Mary. Begin copy-and-paste: Hello %OFRomFName! On %ODate, %OTime, you wrote: %quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(^-BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNED.*?\n%- (Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-(0,3)?\s*?--\s*\n|-(0,3)?\s*Yahoo!\s|%- -BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNATURE.*s?\n)|\z)%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=3 -- Best regards, Mary end copy-and-paste -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template Question
Hello David! On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 1:43 PM, you wrote: Can anyone help me with a better macro to clean out all the ads, PGP signatures, ect. from messages I'm replying too? Here's mine. Works like a charm for me. Thanks, but that still isn't pulling out the Group Links portion, like this: Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fictionwise/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fictionwise/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ That's what I can't seem to get rid of. Other than that, your %quotes seems to work fine for me. Woe. I got mine from Marck D. Pearlstone, one of the moderators. Maybe he will be reading this thread and give you some help. Mine does pull out all the Yahoo stuff. Meanwhile, here's a work-around: 1) Highlight the part of the message body which you want to quote. 2) While holding down the Shift key, click the Reply button on the toolbar of the View Folder window in which you're reading the message. (On mine, it's the green arrow farthest to the left.) I use this technique a lot when I want to quote only a line or two and want to escape editing the unwanted part out. But it works just as well for a full quote of the message body. At least, I hope it will get rid of the Yahoo junk for you--I don't see it, so can't be certain. Anyway, you could try it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template Question
Hello Marck! On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 2:45 PM, you wrote: MRB I got mine from Marck D. Pearlstone, one of the moderators. Maybe MRB he will be reading this thread and give you some help. Well - that woke me up with a start!!! ;-) Sorry, Marck. I have a lot of holes in my memory, lately, and maybe I didn't get that from you. And, of course, it doesn't work on the Yahoo junk. I think maybe a PGP sig was what was working for me for awhile, and then I got tired of signing to mailing lists, and so the Shift-plus-Reply-Arrow technique may be what's keeping the Yahoo junk off my replies to TBOT. At any rate, it brought you on board to help David, so I'm glad of that part of my confusion. I think mine is the one published on the template and macro library website (http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php) I should have remembered that, too. ;) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account Alerts / take The Bat offline for a moment
Hello Scott! On Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 12:23 AM, you wrote: Is there any way to make something in the account window change colors/icons when an account attempts to get mail and it fails? Yes, down in the log file is a nice note saying such, but when you look at a column of 30 accounts (of varying domains) and hear that failed sound, its annoying to scroll thru each account watching the log file to see which account is not working. If there is, I don't know of it. But it would make a nice Feature Request for the Wish List at TB!'s BugTracker. Also, is there a way to take TheBat offline (not changing the settings with in the accounts) and have it just not check for new mail?? Like when I know I am not connected to the internet and want to open TheBat to see a message OR I just need TheBat to stop trying for a moment while I am doing something else... This I can help with. 1) From the main TB! window toolbar, go to Account/Properties. 2) Look down the side pane and click on Options. 3) In the wider right-hand pane, at the very top, under Mailbox checking, uncheck both boxes 3a) The box by Check mail at start-up 3b) The box by Periodical checking each 4) Be sure to do this for all your TB! accounts, as each is governed by its own settings in Properties. That should do it. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: One window to optionally set properties of all accounts
Hello Marten! On Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 6:15 AM, you wrote: Please have a look and see if you feel like supporting this wish: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6053 Support note added. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject)
Hello MikeD! On Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 6:35 AM, you wrote: OK ... this is related to this thread: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=2349 I have been through that one, but I am still not able to connect. I suspect that the problem is that it is a 'hosted' email, that is, it is not an '@gmail.com' address, but a different 'domain' that is being serviced by gmail. Ah. Yes. I have tried variations on various combinations of 'gmail', 'googlemail' with and without the hosted domain name without any joy. Has anyone gotten this particular rig to work? I think mine is what you are wanting to do. However, I did not set it up by myself, so I don't know the particular settings that must be used. Leif Gregory, a TB! lists moderator, both sent me the Gmail invitation and set up the association for me. Perhaps he will notice this thread and give you some advice. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: txt2html.regexps
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 5:14 AM, you wrote: Despite that little problem I'm very impressed with your efforts as reg ex is way over my head and I can't understand why it's not been hard coded into The Bat! main exe file because it's been asked for enough by various users. I've known about this txt2html.regexps since May 2005 or so, but I thought it was just an experimental thing for perhaps future functionality. The file I use is much simpler: ([\s']*)\*([\w\s\+/\-\.\:\\_']*)\*(\s)=\1b\2/b\3 ([\s']*)/([\w\s\+\-\.\:\\_']*)/(\s)=\1i\2/i\3 ([\s']*)_([\w\s\+/\-\.\:\\']*)_(\s)=\1u\2/u\3 and it works just the same for italics, bold and underline. I've just now replaced Konrad's expressions with yours. What I didn't know how to do, either with Konrad's or yours, is how to make the replacement in my TB! editor-window body text, in order to test it. I was able to test Konrad's--at least so far as reading posts in the View Folder--because bold, italic, and underline were always in the posts about it. Of course, with your expressions now replacing Konrad's in my TB!/txt2html.regexps file, the posts containing the visible bold, italic, underline fonts, using Konrad's file, no longer show these. Could you please tell me what to type to make bold/italic/underline appear with your file in my TB! now that I have changed fromKonrad's to yours, MIguel? NOTE; I opened the txt2html.regexps in Notepad, deleted Konrad's expressions completely, and copied-and-pasted yours into it. Then I saved it, and Notepad asked me if I wanted to replace, and I said yes, OK. So that's what's there, and I don't know how to use or test it. Advice, please? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: txt2html.regexps
Hello Roelof! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 6:05 AM, you wrote: What is it that I'm doing wrong? (Only on this topic of course, don't give me the full list.) That's my modest moderator! ;) Roelof, I don't know what to type in my body text to test either Konrad's or Miguel's file. With Konrad's, examples were posted, so I could at least verify by reading the message. I'm intensely curious as to what I should type to make a word become bold, italic, or underlined. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: txt2html.regexps
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 6:52 AM, you wrote: Of course, with your expressions now replacing Konrad's in my TB!/txt2html.regexps file, the posts containing the visible bold, italic, underline fonts, using Konrad's file, no longer show these. Maybe you have to re-start TB or at least switch from RTV to PTV and back. The switching to PTV and back then to RTV did the trick, for viewing Konrad's and yours, both. Could you please tell me what to type to make bold/italic/underline appear with your file in my TB! now that I have changed fromKonrad's to yours, MIguel? Use *'s for bold, like *this* for example. Use /'s for italics, like /this/ for example. Use _'s for underlining, like _this_ for example. It looks like it doesn't work if the second *, / or _ is the last character in a line. *Got it!* And here's a bit of extra text to make it work. /Nicely put/ ! And, _underlining_ this. Thanks a mil, Miguel! :thankyou: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpvDImuChknG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: txt2html.regexps
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 6:55 AM, you wrote: With Konrad's, examples were posted, so I could at least verify by reading the message. I'm intensely curious as to what I should type to make a word become bold, italic, or underlined. Switch to PTV and you will see the trick :) Done. And thanks for posting the more detailed instructions also. Takes awhile for the penny to drop, for people like me. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: txt2html.regexps
Hello Richard! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 6:55 AM, you wrote: MB I'm intensely curious as to what I should type to make a word become MB bold, italic, or underlined. use an asterisk before and after to make *bold*, a forward slash before and after to make /italic/ and an underscore before and after to make _underscore_. However Roelf is right, Miguels underscore doesn't seem to work for ordinary words. I've not tried in quoted yet. It works. But, as with * and / the _ _cannot be the last_ of the characters on the line. By the way, mostly for mods, I can't see why my sig suddenly doesn't work so please be patient as I've changed nothing! Your sig delimiter worked perfectly for me in this reply. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpvsk3d5y2OS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: txt2html.regexps
Hello Richard! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 7:01 AM, you wrote: Why can't I preview the message in the outbox when I save it as draft. I could earlier and I'm still viewing with MicroEd as always? Thigs aren't quite right here since I installed the file. Little gremlins are jumping up occasionally, like the sig delimiter not working for just one message. I have never been able to see RTV in the Outbox. Ever since I began wanting to see how my message would appear in RTV, with the advent of the smiley capability, I have had--at Robin Anson's suggestion--a subfolder to the Outbox. I call it Reference Smileys. I copy the Outbox message into that folder, easy to do with the folder so close, then go back to the Outbox, having seen the RTV of my message, make any changes and then send. This was part of my long-continuing exchange with Stefan Tanurkov on TBBETA, about the need for a separate drafts folder. Not only can you not see RTV in the Outbox, the Outbox is not configurable with folder templates and does not respect AB templates, so that my PGP settings are changed to the Account default templates, if I do revisions of my message in the Outbox. And very clumsy my work-arounds to this, are *too* . grr -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: txt2html.regexps
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 7:09 AM, you wrote: M It looks like it doesn't work if the second *, / or _ is the last M character in a line. Interesting because I posted a response to Mary at the same blink that yours arrived and now, on reading it, I see my bold and _underscore_ aren't showing because they're directly followed by a , in the first instance and a . in the second. It looks like my file (which I didn't invent, BTW) doesn't work if the closing *, / or _ is not followed by a space. But don't ask me why. It's okay. Now that we know, it's an easy work-around. And I should have seen that intuitively. Because there must be spaces around the colons which enclose the plain-text smiley handles, for the smiley image to be called. :thumbup: This is part of the smiley capability, merely extended. Use smiley icons in HTML server in Options/Preferences must be chosen. or the Smiley box in the right-click context menu in RTV body text must be checked, for these font styles to work. Thanks a million for all the help figuring it out, Miguel. A virtual cold one is on the way! And I'll drink your health, here, in :batbeer: ! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: txt2html.regexps
Hello Sebastian!
On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 7:10 AM, you wrote:
The Bat! has an internal engine allows you to automatically replace
| strings wilt other strings when you are using HTML viewer. This means
| that you can, for example, highlight specific words using schema like
| The Bat - buThe Bat/u/b, or you can do any other useful
| or crazy things.
|
| In order to specify this substitutions you must to use regular
| expressions. Please refer The Bat documentation to watch out how to
| use them.
|
| In this program you can see two columns - Find what and Auto
| replace with. In the first column you are must to specify some
| regexp, and in the second column you must to specify corresponding
| substitution expression. You can use subpatterns in such form: \0 \1
| \2 and so on.
|
| For example, if you wish to highlight phone 7-digit numbers, you can
| supply (\s)(\d{3})(\d{2})(\d{2})(\s) as the 'find what' and
| \1b\2-\3-\4/b\4 as the 'replace with'. And so on
|
| http://umc.net.ru/files/other/hlam.zip, 180 Kb
|
'==[ KONIEC: Stanislav V. Mikov ]==
http://forum.allbat.info/lofiversion/index.php/t1045.html
Thanks a million, Sebastian! :thankyou:
A copy of this message from you is going into my TB! Troubleshooting
file, for future reference. :hooray:
--
Best regards,
Mary
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Re: txt2html.regexps
Hello Richard! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 7:55 AM, you wrote: MB It works. But, as with * and / the _ _cannot be the last_ of the MB characters on the line. Or if it's followed by a punctuation mark. Yes. Miguel figured it out. It must have a trailing space, and also a before space, just like the colons for the smiley handles. :42: MB Your sig delimiter worked perfectly for me in this reply. I know. Strange, it was just that one time and Alexander ticked me off too. The big bully :-( I told Alex to his face that he's a bully, on TBOT, when he said I was chicken for not wanting to put this file into my TB! directory to test it. hehehe Shaking with fear and cowering in a corner now sob ;-) comforting :bearhug: It's okay. Let's go off somewhere by ourselves and make beautiful music together! :tellmeaboutit: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 pgp0oJkKmEW1M.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SOT: music for testing files with regular expressions [was Re: txt2html.regexps]
Hello Richard! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 8:18 AM, you wrote, in re Mary Bull's comment on what Alexander Kunz remarked to her on TBOT when she said she was afraid of destroying her fragile Bat if she put the txt2html.regexps file into its directory: MB I told Alex to his face that he's a bully, on TBOT, when he said I was MB chicken for not wanting to put this file into my TB! directory to test MB it. hehehe Going /slightly/ off topic but good for you. MB It's okay. Let's go off somewhere by ourselves and make beautiful MB music together! I'm actually doing some practice now with the cor de chasse as we have a rehearsal this evening. :-) Right on! :thumbup: :band: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SOT: unofficially moderating Alex [was Re: txt2html.regexps]
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 8:51 AM, you wrote: I know. Strange, it was just that one time and Alexander ticked me off too. The big bully :-( If that was your impression, I'm really sorry. I'll try to remember next time that you prefer to be officially moderated! :-P :-P Shaking with fear and cowering in a corner now sob ;-) Wimp. ;-) Big bully! :whip: To all who didn't see the txt2html.regexps thread, in which we were testing it on TBOT: this is all in fun between Alexander and me. He actually coached me very well on its safety and its usefulness, and teased me into coming out of my shy, fearful corner. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpkH9P9woJSn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Viewing RTV in Outbox [was: Re: txt2html.regexps]
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 10:53 AM, you wrote: I have never been able to see RTV in the Outbox. Have you tried viewing Outbox in the preview pane? It works here just fine. Didn't know about that. Every day's a schoolday. :) Thanks for the info, Miguel. If you normally use folder view, this won't work for Outbox. Normally, when you double click on a message in the message list pane a folder view will open. For Outbox, if you double click on a message in the message list pane, the Editor window will open. How interesting! I came to The Bat! from Eudora Pro 4.0--which I left for its vulnerabilities--and intermediately from OE, with my mails being run in through MailWasher. It was just after the automatically open in Preview Pane/OE vulnerability was exposed, in the spring of 2002. (Got TB! in October, 2002.) So, I brought my no-preview-pane prejudice with me to TB! and by the time I realized that TB!'s preview pane is safe, I had the folder-view and mailticker-view mode firmly ensconced in my visual-motor habits. Okay, I might learn to use Preview Pane in the Outbox. Would be faster than my other workaround. So, *many thanks* , Miguel. :thankyou: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewing RTV in Outbox [was: Re: txt2html.regexps]
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, September 30, 2006, 12:17 PM, you wrote: I might learn to use Preview Pane in the Outbox. Would be faster than my other workaround. I only use preview pane. That's of course because I use TB maximised and have enough screen real estate. Ah. I use TB! taking up about 3/4 of my screen, so I can stack various of its windows behind it, with an easy switch just to click among them. But that's because I mostly read and write in the TB! mailing lists and TBOT, and I truly do not enjoy threading. So, I thread by none and sort chronologically. And if I want to compare several posts in a thread, I just stack their windows up on my screen. I'll probably stay with folder view for most things--I hate the Outbox because it destroys my AB template settings, particularly my PGP settings. Only go down there to check on a smiley image if I've used one, and it's not one I'm very familiar with. And now, this bold/italic/underlined font thing. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I set up an e-mail archive?
Hello Mary! On Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 3:43 PM, you wrote: I'm still using The Bat 1.60h, and it's got huge - there are something like 50,000 messages divided between 3 different accounts. Mary, I have 192,532 messages in 3 accounts. My copy of TB! is still running as fast as greased lightning. When some of my folders began to get large, I made a second folder--for instance, Sent Mail Archive to Feb 2006, and moved all the messages into it. Then I began fresh with current Sent messages that way. Don't keep messages in your Inbox. Move them to appropriate folders. But it is okay for those folders to be subfolders of your Inbox. I don't see any reason why TB! v. 1.60 should have any less storage capacity than the version I am running, v. 3.85.03. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I set up an e-mail archive?
Hello Dwight! On Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 4:30 PM, you wrote: I'm still using The Bat 1.60h, and it's got huge - there are something like 50,000 messages divided between 3 different accounts. I've set up a dummy account, called appropriately dummy. It is password protected, so only if I need to get into is it even available for searches, viewing, etc. It just sits there out of the way. Seems to work perfectly. Just have to remember to give it an easy to remember password, such as password. Great idea, Dwight. I may implement that for myself. Would make for a quicker back-up time, too. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Confused!!!
Hello Robin! On Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 5:30 AM, you wrote: On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 at 10:34:52 -0700, Tim wrote: The Bat is having hiccups! Keep getting this alert to download newest version whenever I launch TB. Even though I knew I had the current version already installed I downloaded and installed version 3.85.03 again and Bat is still not convinced I am running current version. Also get this message when manually checking for new updates. Anyone experiencing this same problem? Any fixes? I'm running TB! v3.85.01, and when I check for updates, I am told there are no updates available! Robin, something happened between the first occurrences described on this thread, and on similar threads in TBBETA, and the time you tested for the behavior--late last night my experience changed to be the same one you report here in your reply to Tim Hamm's 10:34 a.m. September 11 post. I think that what happened is that RitLabs noticed and stopped the .xml message that the Help/Check for update and the Notify at start settings were causing to be invoked. These are both good features. It's too bad they got the hiccups temporarily. Perhaps all the outcry from those of us who were trying to use the new features brought the problem to the RitLabs' team's attention. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Confused!!! Fix
Hello Marten! On Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 9:41 AM, you wrote: The Bat is having hiccups! Keep getting this alert to download newest version whenever I launch TB ...Any fixes? Options Updates Uncheck the box No need for that any more. The problem was, very apparently, RitLabs .xml at the site serving the function. It's more-or-less fixed--no longer is v. 3.85.03 being offered to machines which are already running it. Safe to have the box checked now; mine is, as I await the v. 3.85.04 which is shown at the Bug Tracker site. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?
Hello William and Susanne and whoever else is taking an interest in this thread! On Monday, September 11, 2006, 12:53 AM, you wrote: Slightly OT but as soon as I opened your message NOD32 displayed its always-reassuring signature update dialogue. Maybe there's a message there for you ;-) As a satisfied NOD32 user, I second the message. It's well worth the money. Small footprint, easy to set up, updates automatically and often enough to be reassuring. S Do I have to go back to NAV? As someone else said here recently, Blasphemy! Amen. It's bloated and unreliable, IMO. P.S. I don't think that discussing anti-virus programs and software firewall programs with which to back up The Bat!'s inherent security is all that far Off Topic. Not everyone is subscribed to TBOT. And TBOT is quite erratic about timely posting of messages. Erratic daily, that is. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Confused!!!
Hello Tim! On Monday, September 11, 2006, 12:34 PM, you wrote: The Bat is having hiccups! Keep getting this alert to download newest version whenever I launch TB. Even though I knew I had the current version already installed I downloaded and installed version 3.85.03 again and Bat is still not convinced I am running current version. Also get this message when manually checking for new updates. Confirmed on both behaviors. Anyone experiencing this same problem? One person at least: me Any fixes? I think a bug report should be entered at Bug Tracker. If you will do it, I'll put a confirming and supporting note. It's been reported on TBBETA, also. TBBETA mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Confused!!!
Hello Tim! On Monday, September 11, 2006, 12:59 PM, you wrote: I think a bug report should be entered at Bug Tracker. If you will do it, I'll put a confirming and supporting note. I sent a trouble ticket...18875. I hope they pay attention to it! :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! sending availabel update when 3.85.03 msi already installed
Hello Richard Newman and Everyone on TBBETA and TBUDL! Please support: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6030 Maybe we can get The Bat!'s hiccups stopped. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.85.03 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: Viewing TBUDL threadless [was Re: Collapse thread icon?]
Hello Alexander! On Sunday, September 10, 2006, 2:13 AM, you wrote: I view these mailing lists unthreaded, sorted chronologically Blasphemy!!! ;-) :rofl2: Eccentric Mary she was knowed as in them days! (From a Fibber McGee and Molly monologue, on the old U.S. radio show) sigh I've outlived my day. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Collapse thread icon?
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, September 09, 2006, 10:08 AM, you wrote: Is there any way to set up an icon on my toolbar or main menu that will collapse all threads in a folder. I don't see one but I thought maybe I could assign on to the shortcut key sequence. I had not used it in quite a while but I have taken a look at the 'powerful' (and far from intuitive) Customiser and no, there doesn't seem to be a way of doing something as simple as adding a toolbar button that will 'execute' a keyboard shortcut of your choice. Not so much to collapse threads--I view these mailing lists unthreaded, sorted chronologically--as to quickly collapse an account tree; that's what would be useful to me. I've just added a third account, to accomodate a new e-mail address. Takes me three clicks--one for the little box to collapse the first account with a long folder list, one to put the focus on the third account, and a third to check mail in that new account at the bottom. I disabled check all accounts in my periodic mail retrieval and manual function, as well as the combined send and receive. Burned with some crashes when using those settings back in the dim past. :) And it is too bad this can't be done. I injured my left arm and I will be 'one handed' for 4-5 weeks and it would be useful for me to create a few buttons for some shortcuts that are not listed as an Action in Customiser. Miguel, I've been reading your mails that mention this. Best wishes for a speedy and reasonably comfortable--and yes, complete--recovery. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Collapse thread icon?
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, September 09, 2006, 11:20 AM, you wrote: Is there at least a good story? Not injured in a tomato slinging match was it? Yes, there is a good story. I was bitten by a dragon when trying to save my beloved blue eyed and long-haired princess (Charlene?) from him. That's the true story, but some malicious people are saying that my tendon broke when I was trying to move a small granite table top that was leaning on a wall ;) Oh, Miguel! I'm sending you a virtual beer to comfort you. I do wish that you liked :batbeer: though. A bit more easily transported. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Collapse thread icon?
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, September 09, 2006, 11:25 AM, you wrote: Miguel, I've been reading your mails that mention this. Best wishes for a speedy and reasonably comfortable--and yes, complete--recovery. Thanks Mary. I guess everything will be fine, but I have to be patient because I will need to wear a cast for at least 4 more weeks and then start rehabilitation. Worse than a broken bone, actually. I have yet to break a tendon (knock on wood) but I tore up two ligaments in my right knee about 30 years ago. Was about a year to complete recovery from the repair. May your rehabilitation proceed more swiftly--probably it will, because I think a lot more is known than was known in 1972. Keep us posted on how you're getting along, please. I'll pay any trout or horse fines. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello Mark! On Friday, September 08, 2006, 2:05 AM, you wrote: MB This was confirmed fixed in beta 3.81.17, by the reporter, and the MB issue went from Resolved to Closed. Not by me... No, by Charlene, before your post to TBBETA appeared. I thought it had something to do with Objectdock Plus Copernic Desktop Search. I remember. I have spent many an hour to transfer all shortcuts from Objectdock Plus to Jetstart only to find out that, after all, the problem still occured... Bad scene. If I don't hear back from Marek in a few hours about re-opening Charlene's closed thread, I shall put a new BT report up. Will post the link here. Probably be best to do that (make a new report) anyway. Start fresh delineating the bugs in v 3.85.xx. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello Marek! On Friday, September 08, 2006, 3:47 AM, you wrote: shall I write a new issue report? write a new one, because it is different than previous report. Will do. Thanks a lot for the reply, Marek. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello Mark! On Friday, September 08, 2006, 2:05 AM, you wrote: MB This was confirmed fixed in beta 3.81.17, by the reporter, and the MB issue went from Resolved to Closed. Not by me... I thought it had something to do with Objectdock Plus Copernic Desktop Search. I have spent many an hour to transfer all shortcuts from Objectdock Plus to Jetstart only to find out that, after all, the problem still occured... I have put a BT issue report. Please add your note to it. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6020 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello Marek! On Friday, September 08, 2006, 3:47 AM, you wrote: ... shall I write a new issue report? write a new one, because it is different than previous report. Done. Thanks a mil, again, for the reply. And see: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6020 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade?
Hello MFPA! On Friday, September 08, 2006, 5:15 PM, you wrote: Anybody's guess. This is v. 3.85. Two years ago in September, we got 3.xx. If you're being watchful of the price, I'd wait another three months, anyway. However, when 3.xx came along, and some people got caught in the situation you describe, IIRC correctly, those who had bought within the last few days were given refunds for the upgrade. Within the last few weeks, an even more substantial discount than the one being given to others who were upgrading. YMMV but I bought v2 *twelve days* before v3 was released. Several emails to RITlabs elicited the following standard reply:- You are not obliged to upgrade to the 3.xx version. The Bat! version that you purchased is fully functional and has no time limit in using. Upgrading is optional. Maybe my memory is confused and only wishful thinking. Buyer Beware, I reckon, should be the watchword. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smiley
Hello Tom! On Thursday, September 07, 2006, 5:41 PM, you wrote: I must be particularly slow today but I cannot figure out how to use the insert smile function in the new version that I just downloaded. When you double-click the Insert Smile text button, a small dialogue box with an array of Smiley icon choices should appear. Place your mouse pointer over the icon you wish to insert. Double click it, and it will appear (as its text handle) at the point where your cursor is in the MicroEd Edit Mail Message body. After it is sent, it will be visible in a rich text view window. To see the one I've inserted, if you don't have RTV enabled, right click anywhere in the body text of your View Folder or Browse Ticker (if you use the MailTicker) window. Choose Rich Text View (untick Use Plain Text Viewer, if it is ticked, that is) in the context menu which appears, and be sure Smileys is ticked also in that menu. Unfortunately there has been a bug in this feature's function throughout the beta series in which it was tested. And it reappeared for me for the first time, as I brought the dialogue window from Insert Smile up. I got a series of cascading Alert boxes which said Canvas will not allow redrawing and I had to kill The Bat! with the Task Manager. There's an issue report on it at Bug Tracker, I think. I'll go add a note that I confirm the bug is still present in v. 3.85.2. I really can't recommend that you use Insert Smile until this bug is corrected. Instead, type the handle in manually, or copy and paste it into your message. If you have downloaded and installed the pcwsmileys smiley set, you could bring up the web page for them at the link below, put it in a side-by-side window, and cp the handle for the smiley image you want into your Edit Mail Message window. http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php Hope this helps. If anything I've written isn't clear, please ask me again here on TBUDL. I'LL be happy to try to answer your question. Could not find anything under help for smile. No, there's nothing there. :( :tbflaga: -- Best regards, Mary, PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello Marek! I have just now experienced a series of cascading Alert boxes, while using the Insert Smile dialogue window. Boxes said, approximately, Cannot allow canvas redrawing. They were very rapid, filling the screen, and I had to close The Bat! with the Windows Task Manager. This was one of the bug behaviors reported in a BT issue report at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5956 This was confirmed fixed in beta 3.81.17, by the reporter, and the issue went from Resolved to Closed. Do you want to re-open this issue report, so that I can put a note that the buggy behavior has appeared again in v. 3.85.2? Or shall I write a new issue report? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade?
Hello Avi! On Thursday, September 07, 2006, 7:57 PM, you wrote: My question is, Does anyone know when it is likely that ver. 4 will be released? If I upgrade now will I have to shell out more $$$ in a short while (say, within 12 months) because of a ver. 4 upgrade? Anybody's guess. This is v. 3.85. Two years ago in September, we got 3.xx. If you're being watchful of the price, I'd wait another three months, anyway. However, when 3.xx came along, and some people got caught in the situation you describe, IIRC correctly, those who had bought within the last few days were given refunds for the upgrade. Within the last few weeks, an even more substantial discount than the one being given to others who were upgrading. But this is total speculation. For myself, if v. 4.xx came out tomorrow, I'd buy it. The improvements have been that great over the last few beta series. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
